Seven In A Row – Hungary 2025 MotoGP Race Review - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Steve, my good man, How the devil are you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good, buddy, how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm very good, my friend, I am very good. How
was your weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah it was good, mate, it was good. We didn't
do spectacular amounts. What's the racing some jigsaws with boys?

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Nice? How many? How many pieces are we talking for
your jigsaws?

Speaker 2 (00:28):
We're on a thousand piece jigsaw at the minute.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
Jesus Christ. A thousand piece of jigsaw? How old are
you boys?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Seven? Enzo is doing it seven.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
Wow. I would get it any more than maybe one
hundred pieces, and I get a bit bored of a jigsaw.
I'm not very committed to jigsaw puzzles. But there's seven
year old ends I just smashing out a thousand piece puzzle.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, there was tears this afternoon. He started a Pokemon
one which has like a perfect red border with the
odd little spot in it. Oh my Jesus, Yeah, there
was tears, ten trums, but we got there. We've done
the border. Four hours later. We've got the border. Okay,
so it's not all rosy, so we've still got to

(01:10):
do the rest. This is the first one, first thousand
piece on Yeah, that's about it.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
That's well mate, that's an impressive workload for ends, are there.
I'm very impressed.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yeah, he's doing well, a little fellow. Good how was
your weekend?

Speaker 1 (01:26):
My weekend, Steve? Aside from the racing, I don't really
think I did a great deal, to be honest. It's
you know, it's so yeah, quite but five weeks or
something to go now, man. So yeah, it's coming to
an end. I'll only be five or six more podcasts
from my shipping container and then that's that's goodbye to
the shipping container.

Speaker 2 (01:47):
Mate. It's like at the end of an era.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Yeah, it will be. It will be the end of
my last six years of my life up here. So
it's yeah, it's going to be quite a change, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well that's gone fast.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, tell me about it.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
That's gone very fast. That's insane. Wow, that's quite scary.
But yeah, well now we've got to find you somewhere
new to podcast from exactly.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
So well, it'll be you know, it'll be easy for
a few months at least, and then it's going to
get very confusing with time differences when I make it
over to New Zealand. To say, that's going to get
interesting all over again.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
Well, we'll make it work. We're committed, dedicated exactly, and
you can hop over to the mainland and grab some
of the finest beer.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
That's it. You are on the Ossie's Finest today, Steve,
you're on the Fosters. I'm on Tenants, which, as we
keep referring to, is just Scottish Fosters.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Scottish Fosters. Yeah. Yeah, I'm setting a nation over here
drinking this stuff. Yeah, we all know you secretly like it.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
I am becoming more and more convinced the more Australians
protest about no Australians drinking Fosters. I think they're all
really in the closet about it, and I think that
Foster's probably is the national beer of Australia, but none
of them want to admit it because it's a bit embarrassing.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, yeah, we will keep your secret for yours. Don't worry.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
We'll keep your secrets exactly exactly, because you know, one
day we'd probably quite like to go to Phillip Island,
so we can't be upsetting them too much. Or maybe
they'll be like, no, you're you're the Foster's fellas. We're
not giving you a visa.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
No, not letting you in. Why you sprouted off about Foster's.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
Be like, oh, I see you've won a Foster's bribe
and just pull a can out of your pocket and
leave it on the immigration desk.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I got you covered.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Yeah, exactly. Anyway, before we cause an international incident, let's
dive into the show, shall we, Because we did have
a race this weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Let's go for a buddy good stuff.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
So I'm Tim, He's Steve and this is for the
love of Moto GP. If you are new to the show, welcome,
and if you are returning, welcome back. This is for

(04:23):
the love of Moto GP, the show where Steve and
I sit down with a couple of beers and talk
about Moto GP like we would in the pub. You
already know we're both on Scottish Finest tonight, Scottish Finest
and Australian's Finest. I got distracted because I of WhatsApp
come through at the same time there, So yes, that's

(04:44):
what I get for not putting my phone on airplane mode.
But what you do, I'm using it hot Spot, so
I can't have it on airplay motor.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Just what happens? Yeah, oddly enough, I was just googling
national beer of Australia.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And what comes up.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
It says Australia doesn't have an official national beer, but
the beer believe that. Yes, I'm holding it right now.
But the bear considered most representative and popular is Victoria Bitter.

Speaker 1 (05:13):
Oh that's quite disappointing. I don't like a bitter particularly.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
No, No, Phoebe has a long history and deep roots
in Australian culture.

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Oh, I thought you said BV. For a minute there,
I was like, does it all right? That's something I
didn't know about the Aussie It's not something worth looking
into right. Well, that confused me for a moment, confused him.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Let's go back to.

Speaker 1 (05:44):
So we did have a race this weekend, Steve. We
were at Hungry for the first time since nineteen ninety two.
Maybe say I was barely alive last time at Moto
GP took race at Hungry, which makes me think there
might have only been like one rider on the grid,
so that this time that was alive when Motor GP

(06:09):
lost raced around.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Hungry, Rossie certainly would have been no, sorry, would be yeah,
just damn, yeah, that's very true. That's scary. That is
very scary. I was eleven, so yeah, nuts, I wasn't

(06:31):
far away from starting my motor GP journey.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
So there we go. So this will be the first
time as well, you've ever watched a race around Hungry.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, yeah, for the GP anyway. Obviously did watch the
superbikes the other week, but certainly the first time I've
ever watched motor GP bikes kick it around here in Anger.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Wow. Well, well, there we go, and maybe we'll be
back next year, who knows. The circuit has been met
with very remixed reviews. What did you think, though, Steve,
do you have a strong opinion about what the race
wekend look like? Because everyone else seems to.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
It's certainly divided opinion. I did put in the Facebook
group what did everyone think? And there were some strong
short some of them answers My favorite and a quote
it's shit, I can't remember your name, fella, but that
was crack. I'm rolling around on the floor that just

(07:29):
maybe die. I was like, that's brilliant. Personally, I didn't
mind it. It's obviously quite different to the other tracks
that we go to in the sense that it is
extremely technical, so it adds some varieties to the mix.
We can't have massively fast flowing corners and like Migello's

(07:54):
Straits and all this stuff all the time. We have
got to have a bit of variety thrown in there
to keep it very read. So I'm kind of on
the on the fence. I would have liked to see
in a bit more sort of fast paced racing. But
I did like watching them. I know, it's the first
time I've been there, work it out and try and

(08:17):
get to grips with the heavy breaking, the flip flop
turns for the chicanes, I thought, I thought it was
quite interesting. Not going to be up there in my
list of like all time greatest tracks at all, but
it was it was all right.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Yeah, I kind of feel similar to that, I quite
you know, normally I'm very happy to get on my
high horse about things. I didn't hate it. I thought
it was. Actually I feel like it's got a lot
of hate and it's got a lore hate than it deserved.
I think. I think the racing wasn't great. I mean,
the sprint was ship, the Prix was okay, and Moto

(08:57):
two and Moto three were pretty good. In fact, more
the pretty good they were there, pretty built in races.
I think overall, I like the variety of it. It's
a different challenge, isn't it. Like like you say, you
can't always have Migello's, we can't always have Philip Islands
race was yeah, exactly, And this was you know where
Philip Island is one extreme. This was the Compo the

(09:20):
other extreme. So really tight, really technical, weird, a weird circuit.
But I quite liked watching the riders have to take
on this new challenge in which there was almost zero
margin fererra. We kept seeing people run off from running
wide or blowing corners because they had to be pinpoint
accurate to get through this, and that was It was

(09:43):
quite fun to watch them take on a new challenge.
You know, maybe in a couple of years, if we
do go back next year the teams have got loads
of data, maybe it'd be more boring. But yeah, I
didn't hate it. I thought it was I thought it
was okay. I wouldn't be queuing up to go and
watch a race there. I wouldn't be too upset if
we didn't go back. But I didn't hate it. I
thought I've absolutely seen worse races than this in the

(10:05):
last few years.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
It's just different, that's all. It's just different to what
we've seen before, you know, And like you said off show,
it's not like the Circuit of Wales or what was
the other one, kimmy Ring, kimmy Ring. Yeah, we actually
got here. I know this wasn't purposely made for Moto GP,

(10:29):
but we actually made it to a new.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Track which is not Yes, yeah exactly, and we've had it, yes,
no guarantees, no guarantees that we will be back there
next year. And there are rumblings that the Hungaro Ring
were which is the track in Budapest that's Formula one
go to, might be making a play for a motor

(10:54):
GIP race in twenty twenty seven. Now that circuit will
need some changes to make it safe for MOGP runoffs
and changes to where the walls and stuff are to
make it safe. But yeah, apparently they're making a bit
of a play. But I'm also not all the convinced
that the Hungaria Ring will be that good. It's often
described as Monaco without the walls in Formula one circles
because it's a tight, twisty track anyway, it's not ballot

(11:17):
on a park, tight and twisty, but it is still
a tight, twisty circuit.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
There's still got some interesting features to it.

Speaker 1 (11:26):
Yeah exactly, but yeah, so yeah, overall I thought it
was okay. I didn't hate it worst quite right, then, See, Well,
before we dive into talking about the top fives and stuff,
as is the norm, there's a couple of news items
I want to touch on, So let's just start it
out from the top here first and off. Honda still

(11:49):
down to three riders, so the second Elsie our bike
didn't have anyone aboard it this weekend as it was
supposed to. We obviously knew that some k Chantra wouldn't
be riding this weekend, but his replacement, Elisia Spargo, was
also deemed unfit to ride after a rough cycling accident
that left him with a damaged L three vertebrae. Interestingly enough,

(12:10):
side note, that's the vertebrae that I absolutely annihilated that time.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
Yeah, something looked like you hit a crunchy bar with
a hammer.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
Exactly. Yeah, Yeah, that's the vertebrae that no longer exists
within my spine, Steve. In fact, that and the surrounding
two are just one solid lump of titanium and bone.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
These dates nice, buddy. Yeah, if you're going to get
some scar stories, you might as well have.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
A good one exactly. So, yes, I can. I understand
where Elisa's coming from here, and I'm just very surprised
that he even bothered to turn up. But yeah, he
did turn up on the Thursday, but returned to Spain
for surgery and this may well leave him out for
quite a while. So I just want to wish him
all the best in his recovery and I hope to

(12:58):
see him as stride of mortorgy pea bike once more
in the future, but it could be a while.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, yeah, I think this is going to be a
slow one for him. Bless him. I saw some pictures
of him in hospital, like the injuries down his.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
Leg, just like the road rash and maybe Jesus, they
go fucking fast on those bikes with nothing, just like acra,
and they're shifting and they are properly shifting.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
This baffles me a little bit, right road cycles, professional
road cyclists, pickups and heft. You know, those guys are
going and they wear the skimpiest little things and I
think I've we had that was it? Tardy? Norfolk. Whatever
the hell it is that comes around here. Broads, twder broads,

(13:44):
that's it. And these guys shift. I've seen one go
past me. It's like what he's cooking some speed here?
Those little tiny helmets open like pisspot helmets. Your whole
face is opened. I cringe when I see him on
the road. Yeah, oh it's scary. I don't know. We

(14:04):
always going about motorcycle riders wearing more gear. I don't know.
I'd be happy I'll see these guys warning full leathers.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Well, I mean they're shifting faster than a moped is going.
And you're not going to be if you see a
kid riding around on a moped, even if you've got
a helmet on it and shorts and a T shirt,
you're like, bro, what are you doing? Sort yourself out?
But these cyclists are doing forty mile an hour sometimes
on the flat downhill. We're getting up to sixty sometimes
in nothing but like the skimpiest licra.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Yeah yeah, it just baffles me annoying when you're stuck
behind them. But then you see them drying past and
you're like, oh, it's going round in tears. Yeah, put
some gear on, mate, yes.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Quite, but yeah, so that's a hopefully he will be
back sooner rather than later. But it's going to be
interesting to see what happens is for Castle on your
next weekend. The probably won't be back Nakagami, he is
still out with his knee injury, and Bradle seems set
on not racing anymore. So inn s Honda for Stephan's
hand here we might get a relative unknown jumping on

(15:08):
that machine for this weekend.

Speaker 2 (15:10):
Well, you know, we can always volunteer our services.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Oh, I already have my I've already sent it in
our CVS.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Nice lovely. We'll just await the confirmation then with share.

Speaker 1 (15:21):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
I'll happily do the sprint if you want to do
the full GP.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm good with that. We will put around.
I'm sure we could get somewhere near was it one
hundred and seventy percent qualifying time? Probably, Yes, we could
do it.

Speaker 2 (15:39):
Dodgy transponders, he's in sected one, he's in sector three.
Whoa all time record, he did well.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Whole position has he He's just not five seconds off
Marquez's time.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
That Yeah, yeah, I'm sure we could do it. No,
I think you're right. I think we're going to see
a relatively unknown or are they going to try and
shift in someone from superbikes if they'll allow it. I
don't know who.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
Yeah maybe yeah, hey, or.

Speaker 2 (16:10):
Yeah, maybe the ConA or do we see are we
going to get say one of the Suzu Great hour
rider's given a shot, you know, someone.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
Ashi that was on with this year.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Yeah, yeah, give it to his teammate. You know, it's
like a reward here you are if you can get
within the qualifying bracket, off you go.

Speaker 1 (16:34):
Yeah quite, Yeah, that's not a bad shout.

Speaker 2 (16:35):
Actually, yeah, nice little treating reward for that. Man. I
don't think there's anything wrong with that Ash.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
I don't know. I'm just looking it up now.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I don't think.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah it was at Ashi.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Cool, Yeah, I think give it to that.

Speaker 1 (16:55):
Yeah, that's fair. A Honda rider a quick and obviously
you're not expecting him to be scoring points or doing anything,
but no, and it's a nice reward for him, and
Dimitsu would like it, you know.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Yeah, exactly. It ticks all the boxes. So there we are,
solve that issue.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Yeah, job done. Maybe that's the CV I should have
sent in to Honda instead. Of ours. But what we're
you going to do?

Speaker 2 (17:21):
Let me just pop it in emails? Who I don't
know who? The boss is over there checking ello?

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Yeah, there he is.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
I'm sure I've got to address it somewhere.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
IM, what's up, mate, We'll just drop him a text.

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Oh, I just drop a message. Look, we will obviously
guarantee our services. But failing yeah, if you actually want
someone with a bit.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
Of experience, Yeah, and Steve could just choreograph the announcement,
I'd happily.

Speaker 2 (17:50):
I'd happily choreograph this. I'm sure I could give him
a royal welcome.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Yeah. Speaking of choreographing announcement, Steve, I don't want to
just drop this one on you, so I'll let you
give you a week to ruminate on this. But I'm
thinking you should be choreographing Mark Marquez's championship, his ninth
championship celebration. I'm just going to leave that with you
for the next week, and you can let me know
once you've ruminated on it.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
I've already got it.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Oh, excellent, Okay, Well we'll save that for next week
when it's not a race weekend.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
All right, I'll perfect it. I'll put the finest touches
on it, and I've even jotted in my notepad. Now
I have to I've still got my fuzzy pen thing nice.

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Okay, Well, while you're doing that, I'm going to talk
briefly about Yamaha.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
You talk briefly about Ray and I need to find
a clean page in my book, which most children haven't.
Good feted Jesus.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
So while Steve does that, Yamaha have confirmed now that
the V four will debut just two race weekends from now,
in the hands of Algusto Fernandez at the Mezzano GP.
This will be the first time the new machine makes
its race debut and it's going to be a more
your mental moment for the Japanese mark and I'm sure

(19:02):
there will be a lot of attention paid to it
over the weekend.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
There's going to be some press outside that garage. Mate.
I've seen some shots of it online on social media's
shared especially by like Doggy and the people. The thing
sounds incredible. Yes, this is big pressure moment for Yamaha.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Yeah, absolutely, Yamahaa. Obviously Fabria Coasaurraro is really fighting for
this now to hurry up and get done it's now
two very bad race weekends for Yamaha and for Corturraro,
and he seems intent on getting this before, even if
it's slower than the current in line four is. He
just wants it. He wants it there to be developed

(19:45):
so they can develop it in race weekends so they
can have it up and running for next year. And
even that even next year, I don't think anyone's expecting
him to go and win races or be anywhere near
the top, but just a year's experience on a V
four is going to be really important the Yamaha as
they rolled into the eight fifty cc rule set for
twentyy seven.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, yes, this bike needs to arrive a sap and
just get it going.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
They need to just give a track time, iron out
the kick. There's going to be kicks, there's gonna be problems,
it's gonna be mechanicals of breakdowns, failures and all bloody dults.
They just need to get through that. And what a
perfect opportunity to do it. You've got a few rounds
left of this season. That's absolutely ideal.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, and get it into the hands of Fabia Quatraro,
Like get it into the hands of the guy that's
going to push it to one hundred and ten percent
because riders are going to do that. No, no shade
on a Goasto Fernandez here, But there's a reason he's
not a full time OTOGP rider anymore. Like you need
to be getting this in the hands of your top riders, yes, yep,

(20:54):
And to be fair, give Fabia Quatro a chance to
experience it before because the guy's never ridden one.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
No, that's gonna be my GP learning curve as well.
This is we'll talk about silly season later, but this
is what all the talk is about. The primac seat
hm hm, you know, do you need that experience? So
he's one of the few riders in that grids that
haven't experienced a V four, so he needs that time private.
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
He might be the only rider on the grids it's
never been in a V four you know.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
Uh yeah, I think he could be actually without seeing
the actual grid itself.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Were the only non V four riders right now on
Miguel Lavera, who rode a KTM and a Prillier, Jack Miller,
who wrote a Honda and Adcat and a KTM and
Alex Rinns, who wrote a Honda. So, yeah, Ferry kas
is the only rider on the grid that's never ridden
a V four And isn't that funny because he's the
most vocal about getting a V four.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
But that goes to show he obviously understands completely the
importance of it. Yeah, you know in lone racing at
prototype has had its day essentially. You know, you could
obviously the V four is king at the minute. That
will probably change at some point.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
As technology changed. The in line four will come back
at some point, or you know, there's a non zero
chance that we end up at some point in the
future back to a two stroke five hundred, like that
is possible.

Speaker 2 (22:22):
That gives me wet dreams.

Speaker 1 (22:26):
I mean, you've got to think it's gone. The motor
GP and Promo class racing has gone through these cycles.
Before we had four strokes, then it went two strokes,
then back to four strokes, then there were two strokes
and four strokes, then it was just four strokes, then
just two strokes. Like it's flipped and flopped and changed
over the years, Like there's no reason it wouldn't change again.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
No, No, I'm sure it will hopefully we'll see that
within our lifetimes. I'm pretty sure we will. Its technology
push it on, so that would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Here the screamers again, Yeah, it'd be fun.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Yeah, there's club racing that's letter in this weekend. I'm
not sure if there's any blue haze there, but desperate
to go check it out on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
It always is, mate, if you're club racing, there's always
one of the classes are going to be two strokes.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Oh, that was fantastic. That time we went was just incredible.
The smell that kind of blue purply haze that hung
over the track by the end of the day, I was.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
I love cloud racing for that. It's just so chill.
I just love just going and just sitting and just
watching and smelling the bikes go around and not knowing
a fucking clue about anything that's going on on, which
one of these guys is fast, or even a lot
of the time what the machines are. But it's just
a great event to just go and sit and watch.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yeah, it's such a good day out. There's always something
cheap it is. Yeah, I think it's sixteen quid for
a day for us.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, I remember when we went. It was like eight
pound fifty or something to get in, wasn't it was nothing? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (23:44):
We yeah it was really cheap, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Quite but I think that was at the first race
we came back after COVID.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
I think it was. Yeah, it was so desperate to
go to like, fucking let's.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Go, Yeah this is race, not let's just go watch
it desperately.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
I don't even think about it. You was on there
was it? We just like, looks racing, let's go.

Speaker 1 (24:04):
Did we not watch Motor GP while we were there?
I think it was a race we can. I think
we watched qualifying while we were sat watching the club racing.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Yeah, we're up on the bank and had it up
on the phone. We're just watching both.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Yeah, this is wild.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Yeah we just took a table and chairs and just
made a weekend of it.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, quite quite. We'll do it at some point, Steve,
get back to her for I'm still one day I
want to go snett until go watch the TCV twenty
four hour race.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, yeah, that's been a gone there for this year.
We'll have to schedule it for one year. Get you
back from the hobbit land and.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Yeah, quite so. Moving on, the news then Steve Cilly
season is continuing to roll on, and oh my god,
the last few days it's just been an announcement after announcement,
Like there's been a lot happening, very little official in
the Motor GP paddock, but a lot going on across

(25:02):
the most racing absolutely mad.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, so yeah's dive into it and try and pick
this apart, because there's a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Quite so, at the start of the weekend, Jack Miller
was spouting off about how unhappy Year is with being
made to wait for Yamaha's decision on his future. As
he correctly pointed out, other options are starting to close
and Pramak was supposed to make a decision over the
summer break, but they've delayed that again and again.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, that's a bit of a dick move.

Speaker 1 (25:32):
Quite so, Jack seemed quite upset. And now, while this
is unofficial, it looks like Diogo Morrera is heading to
elsr A. Reportedly Honda have offered him a three year deal,
which is the same as the Yamaha deal that was
on the table, and apparently this comes with some guarantees
of a factory ride depending on performance. Fair so that

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seems to be what swaedim. Apparently Yamaha weren't offering him
that Honda do seem to be offered him that, so
that seems to have been the final thing that swayed
it in the direction of Honda. And to be fair,
right now, when you look at the performance of Yamahara
over the last few weekends, Honda looked like the.

Speaker 2 (26:13):
Bet they certainly do after this weekend. Jesus, Yeah, they
really showed their finery.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yes, quite so. The Parma seat then is still up
for grabs Miller versus oliver Era not so fast. Reportedly,
Manuel Gonzales had been in the picture to his current
Motive two contracts stated that he needed to have a
Moto GP offer by Austria if he was going to

(26:41):
get out of his current deal. But apparently Yamaha asked
the Dinervault squad if it was possible to delay this
clause and they were told yes, but only by one week.
So the clause ran until Hungry and now it looks
like that hasn't been activated. Gonzales seems to be remained
in Moto two next year with the diner Old squad

(27:03):
no matter what happens, and the Pramaxi is still open.
It looks like it's going to Miller. OLIVERRA has kind
of been doing a few interviews and things, saying that
if I fall off the grid this year, it's I'm
going to feel like I've left with unfinished business. He
seems quite resigned and although and it seems now that

(27:23):
he's in talks with a Prillier for doing a test
drive role for them moving forward.

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Yeah, yeah, it does seem that way. Miller seems the
likely bet for the V four experience. Yes, and OLIVERA.
I like oliver I know he's been injured, but he's
not really performed. That's all bless him. So it does

(27:53):
kind of feel like his seat is the one that's
going to be open. Miller will be kept just for
that V four experience, which completely makes sense for like
a team's perspective.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
I mean, OLIVERA has the V four experience, to be fair,
but he doesn't seem to have the same performance in
him this year as Miller's got.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
No, there's something not right at the minute, and it's
probably just down to injury.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
But yeah's been a brutal few years, isn't it for Olivera?

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Like he's not good time. I think he just needs
to go get himself in the back to the tank
and just hear love.

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Yeah, quite so. Yeah, it does look like it's going
to be Miller, and I suspect this is going to
be announced pretty soon, maybe a Mizzano be a home
race for Pramac or in Australia, which is going to
be Miller's home race. But I suspect will know before then,
just by the murmurs of what's going on. If Miller
is still shooting his mouth off in Catalonia, the deal

(28:47):
hasn't yet been signed.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
If he's quiet about it, it probably has.

Speaker 2 (28:52):
Yeah. Yeah, he's not a quiet personal jack. We will
soon know who will exactly who will voice his opinion
quite openly, shall we stay?

Speaker 1 (29:01):
Yeah, and oliverro like we say, it looks like he's
in talks with a Prillier for a test rider role
alongside Lorenzo Savadori for next year. That'd be pretty useful
for a Prilliarth. They've had to use Savadori a lot
this year, and to the point that he was deputizing
for Martine and then Agora got injured and then Trackhouse

(29:21):
couldn't run that bike because they were missing a test rider.
So yeah, yeah, that's going to be onl a various job.
It's fascinating actually, on a couple of levels here. It's
fascinating that we're living in a world of MOGP now
where a manufacturer needs more than one test and reserve
rider because there's a chance that people again hurt and
it's they're out for a while, and you don't want

(29:42):
empty bikes. So kind of like all the factory has
got two or three now, haven't they.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Yeah they have. Yeah, there's always like a pairing, just
a backup, which is quite quite wild really compared to
a few years ago. But it does make sense. These
injuries these guys again are becoming more frequent and pretty
damn heavy, So you need.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
A amount of races, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah. Yeah, And these guys get hurt, worn down, and
they're trying to come back too quick half the time,
and they're not fully fit. Look at Martin perfect example,
back down back injured, and you need a backup for
the backup. It's yeah, quite, it's tough, and it also
makes sense while the backup is racing and testing, you
have another backup that's testing and testing, so development never stops,

(30:27):
although it carries on when they're they're out on track,
you've still got double whammy by your official test rider
testing parts at the test track. It makes completely exactly.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
But then that on track testing can only really happen
if the concession status allows it, and if they are
riding a satellite team, if that satellite team has got
exactly the same machinery as the factory team. But yeah,
we kind of a prettyer haven't got exactly the same machinery.
Even Honda right now don't have exactly the same machinery
as Arco is not on the same machinery In luctory

(31:00):
Guys like say there's only sandwich testing you can do
in that scenario.

Speaker 2 (31:05):
Yeah, yeah, it's it's there's a lot to There's a
lot happening at the minute, isn't it behind the scenes
to develop current bikes for the guys that are so
far behind, plus develop the new buy for twenty twenty seven.
So yeah, there's there's a lot of boxes to tick,
and unfortunately one set of boxes is to get the
bar the bike on par at the minute. But then
that's going to that project is going to be completely scrapped. Yeah,

(31:28):
quite so it's almost like a dead end project, but
you still need results at this point in time. So yeah,
it's not it's it's it's a weird situation to be in.
You want your riders to have the best current machine,
but you also need to develop your new machine.

Speaker 1 (31:45):
Yeah, and there's just a lot of work that needs
to be done right.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Now, so engineers must be like just have a forty
forty a day habit and just sleeping in the design office.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Oliver.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
It does look like has got some World super Bike
offers on the table, but he seems to be turning
these down pretty quickly in order to remain in Motor GP.
And it's fascinating to me as well that riders would
rather remain in the Motor GP paddockt and test rider
roles than move over to a full time race role
in World super bikes.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah. I don't know. I wonder if a lot of
this is down to them just wanted to be evolved
in this paddock which they've been in for so long.
You know, if you leave this, maybe there's never a
way back in.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, or it's super hard to come back anyway, Like Yeah, Yeah,
that's a good point. Even Bautista who went over and
crushed World super Bikes for a few years, what he
got one motorgp right, you know he didn't even get that,
did he did he get one?

Speaker 2 (32:47):
I think he at some point one standing ride a
couple of years back. But it does seem like once
you're out the door, it's almost like by buying gold,
yeah someone else, it's then very hard to come back.
And yeah, these factories are going to play very well
for test riders, for development riders, and I think it's
just a way of keeping your hand in. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
And I guess if you offered like six wild cards
across the year as well as replacement rides, like there's
I mean, we we saw it. Stephen Bradle did almost
full seasons when he was relacing Mark Marquez. The Renz
Savadori did almost full seasons replacing injured riders, like, so
it can happen that you end up with almost a
full time rac anyway, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
I can do. I think it's just loyalty as well
to the sport. These guys want to be in and
around this padic and look at pole, there's always a
way to evolve that onto like pundit and always he's
always on Telly's always there's just mixed it up. I
think it's it's dazz dozen Dans.

Speaker 1 (33:46):
The Spanish broadcaster.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Yeah, so it's nice to see these guys evolve through
their careers for testing to them beyond the Telly and
they know what they're talking about. So I kind of
get it. I do kind of. If you're a young person,
I think maybe right, Okay, if you have you thought
you had a chance of going over there and winning
a world title, you'd do it. But I think if

(34:10):
you're a little bit older, maybe a bit beaten up,
you know, a test rider's role sounds with a nice paycheck.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Yeah, that's fair. Although speaking of Paulus Bargo there, it
does look like he has been flirting with a move
over to World super Bikes from his current KTM test
riders role. He said this weekend that he's kind of
rediscovered this love for racing, and rumor has it that
he had made himself available to the factory Ducati team
in World super Bikes to partner Bolegger next year, and

(34:39):
that would have been really cool. It would have been
super cool to see poll on competitive machinery in another class.
But since writing that previous paragraph yesterday, Iqalaquona has actually
signed all the factory Ducati team to partner bouleg for
next year. Apparently Poll and Ducatti couldn't come to a
financial agreement. And I've also heard that Catty have very

(35:00):
little cash left in oddsuper bikes to pay for their
second rider because Boulega is taking so much of the budget.
So that's going to be part of the reason Poll
didn't end up going over there. But it also means
that Eco as signed for a very modest by international
sporting standards amount, And isn't it for the competitive machinery

(35:21):
rather than a good payday.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
I can understand that, you know, I was young, what
hungry for it still? And if you're all about the
winning and you just want that fancy trophy, paycheck is
kind of sid so that you win bonuses, sponsored bonuses
will all make up for that.

Speaker 1 (35:44):
And then and sign a two year deal for very
little money, and if you do well and you make
yourself indispensable, then the good money rolled in after.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
That exactly one speculative year of living on pot noodles
and suddenly you're back on the cavea.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, exactly. I mean, we've seen this payoff in Motor
GP in the last few years. Smart Markets was apparently
paid nothing by Grissini after his switch from three year.
I mean, the guy who made shitload of money from
his own personal sponsors, but Gristeing themselves are paying nothing.

Speaker 2 (36:16):
That's insane, But I quite believe it. You know, if
he truly wanted it out of Honda that much, was like, look,
if you pay the get out clause, I will ride
for you for free. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
I don't think there was even the get out clause.
I don't think he had to pay Honder anything. I
think he just didn't have to take his twenty five
million for that year.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah. Probably, it's just like now you keep it, lad,
put it in the aero development budget.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Yeah quite. You like, just have yourself a banging Christmas
party with it on me.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
Yeah, like yourself a yacht go around them all, dude.

Speaker 1 (36:49):
Yeah, and think about what you've done.

Speaker 2 (36:52):
Yeah, think about the ship show that you've created and
what he could have done.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
And in the corner slowly rocking. I don't say words
like that.

Speaker 1 (37:06):
I love you, Mark, come back.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Come back, Mark. You're breaking up the boyband.

Speaker 1 (37:14):
For his part over World super Bikes. Maultista has now
signed for Barney Ducatti, replacing the outgoing dinner of Petrucci, who,
as we already know, has signed with BMW to replace
top Rack for next year. And the really big news
from the World super Bike Paddock Steve is that we
kind of thought for a little while Johnny Ray was
gonna try and sign with Barney Ducatty, but instead he

(37:37):
has thrown in the towel. Johnny Ray, the greatest world
super bike rider to have ever lived, is retiring from the.

Speaker 2 (37:45):
Sport, all right. Yeah, I'm not sad about this. Yeah,
he's runness course, he says. I think it's gonna be
a long time before we see someone completely challenge that record.
And you know, she's still fitting healthy. He's retiring nicely, gracefully,

(38:07):
and I'm happy for it.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Yeah, quite Yeah, a couple of bad years with Yamaha
after getting off that Kawazaki and that's all going to
be forgotten about pretty quickly. But yeah, it's a good
time for Johnny to guy and you're it's one of
those things in it like I kind of think you
look at Johnny Ray's numbers over the old super bike
and you're like, will anyone ever do that? But then,
to be honest, we looked to Valentino Rossi's numbers just

(38:32):
a few years ago and went, will anyone ever do that?
And Mark Marquaz is absolutely about to.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Do that, exactly exactly. This is why I was a
bit upset about top Brack going because I thought he might.
But obviously he's had a sniff of the big pie
and wants a slice. Yeah he comes, But yeah, we
just await now the next World super Bowl pheenol.

Speaker 1 (38:56):
Yeah, and I wonder who will be. I wonder if
they're already in the paddock or whether it's going to
be a little bit longer.

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Yeah, I don't know, but just sit Laurels and wait
to see. But there'll be someone out there you can
get to grips with it. It could be could be
absolute anyone at this point time. It could be a
youngster just starting out on their maiden voyage and we've
got to wait five years for them to.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
Well, I mean, if not longer, Like when was Carl
Foggerty When did he retire?

Speaker 2 (39:21):
Ooh what two thousand?

Speaker 1 (39:25):
Yeah, I said two thousand and one, So it would
have been around the early noughties.

Speaker 2 (39:29):
It was a crash at Philip Island, Okay, I'm sure
it was two thousand and one, and did brilliant, brilliant
podcasting here in September two thousand due to injury sustained
at a crash at Phillip Island.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
Okay. So yeah, and what he was four time champion,
he had, he'd racked up all of the numbers by then,
and it was said that no one was going to
touch that. And what fifteen years later Johnny Ray rocks
up and started. I mean Johnny Ray had been there
for longer than that. Yeah, but Johnny Ray didn't start
winning championships into what the early teams.

Speaker 2 (40:07):
Something like that. Yeah, I can't remember exactly which he died.
He's been around a while now, but yeah, Foggy's.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Back team was Johnny Ray's first title.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Maybe like that. I forget when Carle Foggy is back
with his new.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
Team, is he?

Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I can't remember when it is World
super Bike team. I believe.

Speaker 1 (40:33):
Johnny Ray's first World super Bow title twenty fifteen, twenty fifteen,
far away and then did six on the bounce. Yeah, yes,
that's Johnny Ray. Johnny Ray retiring, so yeah, good luck
to whatever comes next for him. Yeah. Nice.

Speaker 2 (40:53):
Yeah, Yeah, Foggy is going to have a British super
bike team next year.

Speaker 1 (40:58):
Are they going to be the Catties oddly yes.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Yeah yeah, team principal of the new Catti team in
the britis Shuperike Championship called Superbike Advocates Racing, which will
begin competing.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
Super Bike Advocates Racing s A R. And I don't
like it.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Well, there's just just one like foggerty Racing, don't you.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Yeah, let's just hope it goes better than the last
out in on that thing. Yeah that's fair, that's fair.
But yeah, we'll see.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
But you know, he's pretty good at winningly. Did he
win super bikes? I think he won on a celebrity
get me out of here, didn't he?

Speaker 2 (41:36):
Yeah he won that, he won some stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:42):
Yeah, he probably done strictly at some point.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
Probably, I think they've all done. He's back next year.

Speaker 1 (41:50):
Nice, So Johnny, raise out car Foggy returns. There we
go two of the greatest.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Raise ambition for the future. Who will be back with
the Kawasaki.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, I don't think Kwazaki are racing anywhere anymore? Are
they racing in bersb still?

Speaker 2 (42:13):
Yeah? Yeah. Max Cook races KAK watching him at Cadwell
at the weekend. I wasn't watching on TV chucking it
over the mount scary track, mate, it's scarce the produc
is so thin For anyone listening who doesn't know this.
Cadwell is a track in Lincoln's.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
Year Well, I don't know exactly where. It's the Midland somewhere.

Speaker 2 (42:36):
Yeah, somedays at the middle of the country in British superbikes,
which what it's in a mixture of farmland or was
in farmland a national park and it's a you could
barely fit two cars side both sides in some parts
of this track, and it's got some massive undulations and

(42:57):
drops and.

Speaker 1 (42:58):
It's some forested bits, aren't they circuit?

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yeah yeah, it's an insane place. And you've got the
mountain as well.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Oh yeah, where they literally get air.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
Yeah. Justs Brooks is probably one of the most famous
people to get air off of this. Both wheels off
the ground full kick and you're literally on the pegs,
leaning over the screen to get your weight to get
the front down. It's insane to watch everyone piles to
the mountain. If you ever got cat Well, everyone's on
the bank. Yeah, exactly, they want to be it's on
that bank. And yeah it's fun. Yeah, I'm sure Mark

(43:36):
would be there, Marshall Mark, Michael.

Speaker 1 (43:39):
Oh that's a good point, I'm true. Well, that show
will be released next week. By the way, everyone listening,
We chied to Marshall Park a few weeks ago, and
that show will be coming out next week.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
Nice, that will do. Yeah, capital's funny your place anyway.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
Yeah, So the last thing I want to touch on
Steve before we move on to our top fives.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
Itches, mate, don't touch it right, Okay, yeah, yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Promised I wasn't going to show you that on webcam,
but now now you've brought it up, mate, I'm just
gonna hun zip and if you don't mind just taking
a look for me, that'd be great, not a problem.

Speaker 2 (44:14):
Help, Just let me take a picture of socials.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
No, what I want to talk about is the new
updated symbols Steve on the Moto GP timing tower because
a few weeks ago, I.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Don't know if I want to talk about this. It's
upset me a little bit.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
This well, a few weeks ago, I say a few
weeks ago, it might have been longer than that. There
was a race I think it was Lemon where it
was all a bit carnage. There was a lot of
pit starts and people jumping on wet bikes or dry
bikes or whatever. It was all a bit chaotic, and
the timing tower was so confusing because some people had
single long lap penalties, some people had double long lap penalties.

(44:56):
You didn't know who had taken what. You couldn't work
out where the fuck anyone was in the order. And
we said, like, it'd be really cool if they could
just change the time in tower slightly and instead of
just putting that penalty symbol up like a way of
differentiating it between a double long lap and a single
long lap, and that would change once take one of
their long laps. It would be easier for us. Well,

(45:16):
it now seems, Steve, after the summer break, that that
has been introduced. They have changed it now. Rather than
have that penalty symbol that was once like a little
stop watch that was orange, it's now a yellow disc
for a single long lap and two yellow discs for
a double long lap, and they actually say L LP
in the discs apparently, so that's now been updated, which

(45:39):
leads me to think, because I didn't hear many other
people spouting off about how what a good idea this
would be to help the fans and to help us
all understand what was going on. I think someone's been
listening to the show, Steve. I think someone's been listening
to us talk and they have decided that that was
a really bloody good idea and they've just taken that idea.
And I'm very happy for that because I think that's
improved this spectacle somewhat. I think that's helped. But a

(46:02):
bit of credit would be nice, wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm not happy about this because not one
little bit, because I'm not Look where is it. Here's
a wallet's stuff full of money here, Donnar i med
consultation fees Steep.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Yeah, and there was literally a moth flew out of
his wallet there when he opened it up as well,
so there was.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
I'll show you how desperate times are. There's even a
pirate coin.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
Yeah, I'm not joking. Actually a pirate coin in there.
That's excellent. There is well nice, I like that you
carry that around in your wallet with you all the time.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
I do. Yeah, So yes, Donner, it's one hundred and
twenty five pounds an hour.

Speaker 1 (46:51):
Yeah, and I don't know it took us at least
eight hours to come up with that as well. So
six a grand and we'll be happy six months.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
Twelve hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
But yes, so I do think whether or not someone
was listening to us, they probably weren't. If they were,
please do get in touch and let us know. We'd
love to have you on the show to chat about
things motor GP and our ideas. Yes, but I think
this was just a super cool edition anyway, it will
help the next time we get one of these chaotic
races with loads of ridiculous penalties, like, it's going to

(47:27):
be much easiest try and work out what's going on.
Because during that race, man like even the contacts couldn't
work out what's going on. No one had a clue,
no one.

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Had a Scooby what the hell was happening, and it
did need simplifying. And yeah, they've done it, whether they've
you know, listened to us, or somebody else has come
up the same idea. I really I want to take
credit for it, so I really hope it was us.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'm just going to take credit man, until someone tells
me we didn't. Until someone tells me it wasn't our idea.
I'm just gonna say it with our idea.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Oh right, I'm going to add that to the bio creators.

Speaker 4 (47:57):
Of inspiration for maybe yeah, yeah, yeah, inspiration for current
timing tower symbols.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
And symbols, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:10):
I just wait for that letter to come through the
what would it be for a lawsuit something.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
With not a subpoena or is it would it be
someone would have to hand you the paperwork. I don't
know if that happens in the UK, whether it's just
an American thing. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
We just get served papers. We don't really get served
papers over here, do we get No.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I don't really know how to just drop and you
see the hm r C you think like, oh, yeah,
well that normally happens, like if you're fantastic, But like,
I've never got myself into serious enough trouble that hasn't
been arrested in the moment to find out what it's
like to receive one of these.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
Never been summoned to court for anything, So I have
no idea if a letter pops through the post at
some point from your fucked and your fucked dot com,
we know we're screwed. Yeah, but for whatever reason, whether
they listen to us, whether somebody else you know, got
in touch with DAWNA was like, look, this is an
absolute shambles your time and tower. It's fixed or it

(49:13):
certainly improved, and it was a lot better. So thank you, Donna,
and we will graciously take the pros.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
Quite right, Steve, on that note, let's take a quick
break and then when we come back, we will dive
into talking about the top fives in the Moto two,
Moto three and both Moto GP races.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (49:36):
Excellent, So guys, bear with us for just one moment
and we will be right back with you. And we

(50:01):
are back. Thank you for bearing with us. Ladders are empty,
it is our full, and we are ready to crack
on with Moto three at ballot On Park. A minute
to remember what the circuit was called.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
Then, yeah, Friday, I kept calling it Baton Park. It's
not that everyone was like, what the well in there?

Speaker 1 (50:28):
So this racetve did play out sort of how I
expected and how you and I were chatting via text
before the race happened. There's no long straight and hungry,
so the pack broke up quite a lot, with the
fastest guys opening up a gap at the front, and
the top five were by far and away the five
fastest guys out there by the end of the race,
finishing four seconds clear of everyone else.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, yeah, this is there's no slipstream here or not.
There is, but there's not enough track to really utilize it.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
So yeah, it's not like Migello, for example, where you
can have a twenty rider lead pack because that straight
just keeps them all together.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah yeah, this one again technical, so these guys have
to think about it as as much as the GP guys.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, quite, And I think it made for a much
more interesting race than the usual kind of chaotic ten
rider packs that we see. It was much more of
a kind of a controlled duwel like we've been seeing
in Moto two this year, actually, and I enjoyed this
a lot. I think the cream truly rose to the crop,
and I do think we've got a really talented bunch

(51:34):
of guys in Moto three right now. This doesn't feel
like one of those years where we're not really sure
of the level of the guys winning. I think the
level in Moto three, especially among the front five, six
seven riders, is super high right now.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, yeah, these young people are exceptional this year. They
like you say, we thought it was gonna break up
the pack, be a technical race, and it was. We
don't often see that, excuse me, in Moto three. We
get them like the mass clump of riders at the

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front and it's all about slipstream. This one. These guys
had to stop and think and do some homework and research,
and it was really nice to see these guys competing
at different kind of circuit where you couldn't fully utilize
the big advantage you can get in Moto three.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Yeah, yeah, quite yeah. I think overall, just this year
and this circuit specifically, but this year as a whole.
This isn't one of those years where someone like Jammy
Massia or Albert Rain asking winn a title like that's
just absolutely not happening. The level is just so high,
and I think it'd make you saying it was absolutely
on display this weekend.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
Yeah, yeah, it really was. It was a really good race.
I enjoyed this a lot.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Yeah, me too. So the top five then in this one,
Steve looked like this. Fifth place was Jose Antonio Ruaida.
Much like the last couple of races, it didn't quite
look like Rowaida had the pace to run right at
the front, but by the end of the race he
managed once again to find a really solid result. And

(53:12):
I do wonder whether he's probably properly in championship mode
right now, not wanting to take the big risks to
get onto the podium or fight through the win, and
just wanting to bring those top five points home. Because
if that's the case, he's doing it admirably and it
will keep doing so until the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (53:29):
I think that's exactly the case. You know, it didn't
quite have the pace of this foe in front of him,
but he didn't risk it. There were times when he
would close up and he didn't make any foolish moves.
I think this is a very intelligent ride from him
and really showing his class. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Absolutely, yeah, I think it was a really good one.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Fourth place then was Annhelper care Ass, and he led
a bunch of this race, battled right at the sharp
end and only missed out on the podium. By less
than a tenth of a second. Did manage to close
in a couple of points to a waider, but probably
more importantly lost a bit of ground to the two
riders chasing him in the standings right now.

Speaker 2 (54:13):
Yeah again intelligent ride, like you say, gained a few points,
only a couple.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
On the pre asses. He can't really be affording these
intelligent rides right now. He needs to be winning.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Yes, that is the trouble. But he still beat his
rival could have done when to say the twenty five
points as opposed to what sixteen?

Speaker 1 (54:38):
Not even sixteen? Maybe thirteen?

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Yeah, something like that, But there we go. He got
points on him, so yeah, but it needs to be
a bit more, but I don't know. We'll see what
happens next round out.

Speaker 1 (54:54):
Yes, quite third place then stink. It was a David
Munyo and the Golden Run continues as per usual. He
was ultra aggressive at times in this race, but not
quite as Kamakazi as we've seen him in the past
on the line, but didn't get any punishments so obviously
within the rules. So yeah, another solid result and minnots

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just purple patch continues. He is on an absolute tear
right now, and if he hadn't just been such a
mess at the start of the year, he'd be right
in the title fight.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
This guy needs to look back on his actions at
the start of the year and really have a word
with himself in the mirror, because the streak he's on
at the minute, it's just phenomenal. Like you say, he
always flirts with the line of what he can get
away with. But I like that gives him that little
bad boy edge, which I love. I think that's fantastic,

(55:48):
but keeps it within the rules set. Perfect, absolute perfect.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
But even that's quite a new thing, isn't it. Like
it was only the last six seven races he's managed
to keep it in the rules. Like in the start
of the year, he was sucking.

Speaker 2 (56:02):
All over the start of the year, we were like, Jesus,
get him off the track. Now he is an absolute
pleasure to watch.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And he's one of those riders now
that if he's behind I imagine if he's behind you
on the track, But if he's behind someone you're supporting
as a spectator, you're like, oh fuck, this is not
what the position I wanted to see this guy in.
Right now?

Speaker 2 (56:24):
Yeah, if you're in second place or first or wherever,
and you see your pit board, you see mono.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
Plus I'm losing.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
A bit of firing on getting some rubber on the leathers. Yeah,
but he's doing it tastefully now.

Speaker 5 (56:40):
Which is ye ish, tastefully but.

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Well within the rules.

Speaker 2 (56:46):
Exactly, there's no exactly, yeah, exactly all good.

Speaker 1 (56:53):
The second place in this one, then, Steve was a
Valentine Peroni. The rookie took his best result of the
year and looked incredible at doing so. He's already still
in the podium once this year and has been right
at the sharp ended periods, but often he drops back
throughout the race. But not this time. He was right
at the front, fighting well and led a huge chunk

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of this race, and I thought he was set for
the win.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
I'm with you on that one. I really did. I
thought this was his race, his wonder to break the duck.
This kid, this rookie is one to watch. You know.
It's big coming, big building, Like you say, still on
the podium once already this year. The win's coming. He's
creeping closer, and normally he drops back. Not this race,
whether it's the nature of the track, well, maybe, but.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
Whatever, his second place and a level playing field because
no one's been here before.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Yeah, so that goes to show the manner in which
he could race. And yeah, hats off to this kid.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Quite and speaking of rookies, to watch Steve winning this race, Maximo,
he lets the wonder Kid strikes again, extending his podium
percentage in Mito three to sixty percent. He did make
some of his classic mistakes during the race, running wide

(58:14):
and occasionally missing his breaking markers. But this is something
that I think early on this season when we saw him,
it was happening a lot. It's happening less and less
every weekend now and he's still managing to fucking win
the race even when he does so.

Speaker 2 (58:29):
Yeah, the kid is something else. He's learning all the time.
The mistakes are becoming less and less frequent. His riding
craft looks better at every race. This kid seems to
tick into the box and just dial it in a
notch more. I don't know one to watch for the future.

(58:50):
I'm sure of it.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Yeah, quite, And he's now got third in the championship,
closing in on Pecus for second at quite the rate
of knots oh Man. If he continues this run for
the next few races, like Ruaider needs to be looking
at Kilez rather than precare us for a challenge here.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
Yeah, he really should. There's time for him to do it,
and if results like this keep happening, he will be
right in the mix.

Speaker 1 (59:17):
Well, how many that's a good question. How many points
behind is he right now? Let me just load up
the standings he is on. He's on one hundred and
sixty four to Ruaders to fifty, so he's what eighty
six points behind? Yeah, eighty six points with one, two, three, four, five, six,

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eight rounds to go. He outscored Raaider this weekend by
twelve points eight by twelve Steve very quickly twenty four
ninety six. That would be enough. If they both finished
in this position for the rest of the season, it
would be enough for Kilez to take the title. Think
that's going to happen, But we've seen stranger things happen

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than an eighty six point gap. Close.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
I think he'll be close. I think he'll be very
very close by the end of the season. I'm not
close to the Ruaider would like split it that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:13):
Way quite And speaking of close, mate, the win. Here.
It was such a battle over the line between Pironi
and Kilez that commentated in very heavy rubbing on the
way to their line. There was proper elbows to the
kidneys going on as these two nearly collided and one
by just under two hundredths of a second.

Speaker 2 (01:00:33):
Fantastic to watch. I loved every part of this race, mate,
It was so good.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
Yeah, it was really good.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
It was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
It was a really cracking Moto three race. I enjoyed
it a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Yes, yeah, this really was.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
And speaking of cracking races, Steve, Moto two, well, Moto
two was an absolute belter. I do like the last
couple of years we've seen some absolutely belting Moto two
race and this was just up there as again, just
a cracking race.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Moto two seems to be really coming on the level
of talent in that field. The last couple of years
has just drawn them all together. Yeah, you know, and
they're all having good rounds, bad rounds, doing different things.
Look at Joke Dixon, up and down, up and down,
up and down. When you watch a race, you're always

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a little bit uncertain of what's going to happen, and
that instantly puts you on the edge of your seat.
Could this happen? Could could this happen? Could that happen?
And you start running through the scenarios and before we
know at the races started, you missed two laps and shit,
I was just coming up the scenarios and you're shucked
in You're captivated. Moto two is doing that perfectly at

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the minute.

Speaker 1 (01:01:50):
Yeah, yeah, quite and even around this circuit Man motos
who really showed how difficult overtaking can be around Belton Park.
But it was almost the perfect level of difficulty to
make this race super exciting because the true talents in
the field were able to get moves done, but they
had to work pretty hard to do so. Defensive riding

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worked really, really well, even if the lead rider was
quite a bit slower than the guy behind. It made
for a fascinating display from all the riders in close battles.
So this is probably my favorite race of the weekend.
But people kind of highlighted by when Jake Dixon took
the lead how long it took everyone to get past
him because he just didn't miss his breaking markers and

(01:02:33):
the guys behind were clearly faster but really struggled to
get by, and when they did get by, they managed
to pull a decent gap. Yeah, so they were clearly
quite a bit faster.

Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
It's a very technical circuit, isn't it. And like I
think the way you described it, there sums that are
person perfectly. This size of bike with his capability for
this track was almost perfect. These guys, like you say,
had to work for the overtakes. It was still doable,
but they couldn't slide past with the ease that we

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get other tracks. This to me was the perfect combination.
Moto two and Balloton Park was a pleasure to watch. Yeah,
if you were this was really fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
Yeah, yeah, it was a really good race. I enjoyed
this one a lot. It's funny, isn't it with Moti too,
Like it's I feel like when Motive two first arrived
on the scene, it was some of the best racing
in the series, and then as we got towards the
end of that kind of six hundred era, it just
sort of got a bit dull at times.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
It wasn't quite a sa I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:39):
Yeah, but since the tire change onto these new tires,
onto the what they running, and they running pre least.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
They are they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:48):
Moved from Dune Lops to Pere least since that change,
it's just a fascinating class again.

Speaker 2 (01:03:54):
It has I think the change in capacity, the time
they've had to develop these machines, the difference in chassis,
new riders, teams. It's all now hit kind of a
nice high and I hope it stays here. I don't
want to it off again. It's kind of dropped down
and become very processional or slow and boring if you will.

(01:04:20):
It's not slow at all. What kind of follow the leader?

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
Yes, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
At the minute, we've got a lovely mix of action,
of drama of racing going on. We've got some real
characters on the fields. It's a good mix.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, quite yeah, it's it's a really good to mostly too.
Especially this season has been a really good championship. Probably
the best championship actually this year, I think so. So
the top five then Steve In this race looked like this.
A fifth place was Colin Via by far and away.
Colin's best ride this season, just really fast and was

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able to hang in well with the rest of the
guys in front of him. It's really interesting in general
that a new track a lot of the class rookies
had great performances. Squaretas or Toler or Gardo obviously Alonso
all had spells of looking fantastic through the weekend. And
I really think that coming to a new track just
showed off the skill of this crop of class rookies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:21):
It's just a level playing field, I'm sure of it.
You know, everyone's on the clean sh she on the
same slates. No one has the slightest advantage, and it
just kind of bunches them up where some of the
riders they have that experience from last year, they have
the data from last year, They've just got that little
bit of an edge, and that's enough just to push

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them on those two tenths one tenth and that gives
them that gap, and you know, the following year the
rookies will be fine, But then maybe the competitors from
this year are gone, moved on in your team, and
it switches it up again, so you never get the
same kind of scenario from one year to the next.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
No, exactly. Yeah, it's a lot of fun, and I
just think that the rookies this year, and the rookies
from last year as well, were all just a really
solid bunch I think, just as we've said with MOTI three,
right now, there's just a really strong field of guys
at the top of all the classes right now, except

(01:06:19):
maybe a Motor GP, where there's one really strong guy
and everyone else's made it look a little bit amateur.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
Yeah, there is a bit of a difference there. There
is kind of the big group of not aliens because
they change all the time, but there is always.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
Not aliens anymore. There's one alien at the moment, there's
just one guy, and then everyone else.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Just fluttered down in spaceship, but in like Motor two
and Moto three, there's a kind of that bunch, that
group that always shifts and change, and every now and
again someone will have a bad race, and then there's
the not that oddity. That's the wrong way of putting it.
The unexpected person kind of just jump in and go
hello here, don't forget about me. I've been racing in
twelve four season, but suddenly I fancy being third.

Speaker 1 (01:06:59):
Yes, yeah, it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
Just has a fantastic race. We get everyone's flicking through
the notes, going the is this guy?

Speaker 1 (01:07:05):
Yeah, just when you look at you, I imagine you
look up at the pit board and you're like, what
the fucking number is that I'm being fired by? Who?
Who's that? What?

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Yeah? And each lab it's ticking down?

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
Oh ship, why why are they so fast? I've never
even seen that number before. Yuki Cooney? Who Yuki Cooney?

Speaker 2 (01:07:28):
Some poor bucket around the world. I was gonna listen
to this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Let's be that is the fellow's name? Isn't it mo too?
There is a Yuki Kuny. He crashed out on turn one.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
Yeah, it's something Coony. I think it's Yukikooney. Let me check, Yeah,
Yuki Kuney. There we go. He's in thirtieth in the championship.
He's not scored a point all season. But yeah, but
he was wiped out and turned one of this race.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
Took an early shower jump on everyone else. Beat the traffic,
the airports, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Fourth place in this one, then Steve was a Jake Dixon,
and Jake did lead for a while after an opportunistic
move at turn one. And while, like I said, obviously
he was slower than the three guys that finished ahead
of him, he was fast enough to be a thorn
in their side as they tried lap after lap to
find a way past him, and when each of them
eventually did, they did manage to pull a gap pretty quick.

(01:08:26):
But it was a great display of defensive rider from
Jake to just hold them up and he did actually,
at the end of the race pick up the pace
and was almost as fast, if not faster on worn
tires than a lot of the guys in front of him.
I think that's more of a speed up thing or
a mosque security thing sorry, than a Jake Dixon thing.
But yeah, he again looked like the Jake we saw
at the start of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:48):
But it's never quite enough as it always comes and goes.

Speaker 1 (01:08:51):
British riders, mate, Yeah, just British like British riders in
the gold pre paddock, British winders the world Superbikes Okay, story.

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
Love it of its love Jake obviously hometown hero mate.
Just please someone forward Superbikes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
That deal's done, mate, he signed with Honder, it's just
not been announced yet.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, just tell us, man, just tell us, put us
out of a misery. Jake will slip you the bonus
in your little box of bits that Tim has in
his wares.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
Well you say that, mate, but he's literally he goes
into that warehouse to pick up his sponsor gear, like
they know him in there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:30):
That's what I mean. Will make sure he gets it.
Just go over there and do great things, Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
I'll send a what's up, I'll send a text to
someone and hopefully next time he turns up there he
can let them know that it's definitely a done deal.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Yeah. And if you feel like dropping little glove or
to a boot of a set of leathers, it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:47):
Won't be the bad, worst thing in the world, exactly, Jake.
Next time you're going to pick up those pit of vipers, mate,
maybe just leave us a set of gloves. Yeah, we'll
put them on the wall with Christophonson's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Which never turned up.

Speaker 1 (01:10:00):
It's never turned up, disgusting, terrible. So then it's the
third place in this one, Manuel Gonzales, and this actually
must well, it was a pretty disappointing result for Gonzales.
He looks set to win for most of the race,

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and they must have thought that second place was definite
and with that he would open up a few more
points over Marera in the championship, as well as plenty
of points over Canett, but he came out worst on
the final battle between the top three. Still the cracking
result after an non score last time out, and this
does extend his championship lead over Aaron Cannett. But I

(01:10:43):
think this is one of those scenarios where the guy
in third place was pretty disappointed with how it played out.

Speaker 2 (01:10:51):
Yeah, if I was, I would be quite disappointed for this,
because the guy had an epic battle and second and
you know, first, second, or third or battling into that
last quarter and he's just got mucked. So but that's racing,
so you can't really be angry.

Speaker 5 (01:11:09):
The guy sitting there just piped you, So I tell
you what, though, he did look fumin coming across the
line because great More, who finished second, very nearly ran
him out into the pit wall there.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
He knew full well what he was doing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:23):
But it was racing. Yeah, the guy on the outside,
you know, it's it's the risk of big on the outside.
But and it wasn't as close as I think Gonzales
probably felt it was. But then you know, when you're
the one blasting towards the pit wall and there's a
guy just running you out towards it, like it's gonna
feel You're gonna feel pretty aggrieved, and you saw him

(01:11:45):
like before he even crossed the line, like put his
hand up, like what the fuck are you doing? But yeah,
there's a there's a championship battle going on between the
two of them. Morera is currently third in the championship
right now. He is the guy that I'm probably looking
at canet to challenged Gonzales for the rest of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah, I think you're right that one. It was a
tough move, but it's.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
Rosen Yeah, yeah, exactly, and that is second place. Then,
Morera led a lot of the race, but had Gonzales
properly breathing down his neck rightime. Yeah, quite and more
didn't actually have the pace of Gonzales, who on pure
speed should have beaten him this weekend, but he was

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clearly the third fastest rider during the race, and thanks
to that kind of last couple of corners and managing
to almost run Gonzales into the wall, Marrera did finish
ahead and the result gains him four points on his
Spanish rival and brings him to just six points of
Aaron Cannett for second. This title battle is going down

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to the wire, mate, and it is really quite exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:12:50):
One is going to be fantastic. I just want to
slow creep from Marrera past Cannet up to Gonzalez and
we just get to Valencia and then we watched the fireworks. Go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
I want them close enough come because I think basically
this championship is going to go one of two ways.
I think either Marera is going to make a mistake
and give Gonzales, you know, a win, and Marrera and
g it's a non score and that's going to give
Gazales enough to coast through. Or they're going to chip
away at each other and they're going to get to Valencia,

(01:13:23):
and this is what I hope, and it's going to
be whoever wins on the day, whichever one of those
finishes ahead of the other, is going to win the title.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
Yeah. That's really what we need and what we what
we'd like if it comes down to that, perfect Thank you, gentlemen.
We will take that all day long, don't.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
Do they championship that will go to Valencia, so one.

Speaker 2 (01:13:45):
Yeah, we need one at Valencia. Motor GP certainly isn't
unless something absolutely insane happens.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
Mate mart Marquez is going to have to catch COVID
or something for months and be properly wiped out for
this championship to go to Valencia.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
Yeah, it's not going to happen. Or he could just
do it for us and make it interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
But you could just go to the Bahamas, man, Just
go chilling French Polynesia or something for the next six weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:14:10):
Take some time off for your mental health, the pressures.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
With Casey Stoner. You'll be fine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Yeah, I'm naked. I'll go to the beach mate with
the Fosters. Yeah, this one's going to the wire. I
really hope it does.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Yeah, me too, Me too. But winning this race, Steve
was one David Alonzo. We said it already. The truly
exceptional riders could make moves this weekend, and towards the
end of the race, Alonso was on another level, overtaking
at will where everyone else was getting stuck. His pace

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on worn tires is unbelievable this year, and as soon
as he wraps his head around how to maximize performance
on new tires, he is going to be un stoppable.
The future is looking bright for Alonzo.

Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
Yes, yeah it really is. We watched it where he
came from fourth or fifth or something that gradually carved
his way up there. Through the road back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
Yeah, he had to overtake all of the four guys
in front of him, so he had to overtake fire Dixon,
Gonzaras Marera. I think he came back from further than
that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
Yeah, it was a pleasure to watch. And like you say,
once this guy can get wrap his head around warn
us new tires, it's going to be a potent weapon.
But this was going to.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Quite and winning like this in your first Motor two season, Wow,
it's a great sign for future progress, like the future
of MOTORGP is looking bright with the Colombian surely coming
up in twenty twenty seven. But if we look at
like the Motor GP standings, now, look at the guys
who won in their first season in Moto two. Ma

(01:15:54):
Marquez did it. Yeah, I think peckerbag Nia managed Itzek
He certainly didn't. Preasure Costa did, Frankie didn't. Morbidelli that
is did, He didn't, Saco didn't, Cossarro didn't, Actually, Vignales did,
mir didn't, but Rins did. Like a bunch of these guys,

(01:16:16):
the guns that you are big names and you think
have gone on to win races and do really great
things in mogp all came through and won in their
first year in MOTI.

Speaker 2 (01:16:27):
Yeah, yeah, exactly that the future's bright mate really broke.
With this talent pool that's coming through, we quite have
absolutely nothing to worry about whatsoever. The rating is going
to continue to be fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:16:44):
That is, my friend, that it is, right, Steve, Let's
take one more quick break and then when we come back,
we will dive into the Moto GP top fives, and
then we will recap our predictions and we we'll save
the fancy league for next week when there's no racing,
and we will have a chat about that. Excellent. So guys,

(01:17:07):
bear with us for just one moment and we will
be right back with you. And thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
Oh I thought it's scaring there. It is. Thank you for.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Bearing with us. We are back, bladders are empty, and
as you can tell, Steve's beer is full and we
are ready to talk Moto GP. I'm sorry, Steve, I
didn't realize you had another beer. They're ready to go.
I was, just, as per usual, so self obsessed. I
was like, I've still got half a can here. I'm
not going to open another one. Steve's ready to go.

(01:17:57):
There's another four lined up for this last section, Steve's
Steve's on a mad one.

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
I am yeah. I got bought a case of Australian
Finest earlier, so I was like, what warm? Though, I
had to get out of the box now at the fridge.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
It's not so good, mate, it's not so good. It
makes me think of a music festival a warm beer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
Yeah, yeah, with the bars in the sun all day.

Speaker 1 (01:18:17):
Not even that. It's the beer that you've got in
and it's been in your tent all day and then
you crack that. Yeah, that's like body temperature warmth. That's
piss warm.

Speaker 2 (01:18:26):
You've just reminded me of something that I need to
add to my memory list. I need to get a
new cool box.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Ah, there we go. Okay, important things. I was like,
what is this a piss warmth? How has that reminded
s anything? But okay, that makes more sense.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
Yeah, yeah, I just covered mine. There's a hole in
it thanks to a young child.

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Ah. That's not ideal, mate. The insulation properties of that
are probably non existent. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:53):
Yeah, they don't like getting thrown down steps outside the house.

Speaker 1 (01:18:56):
No funnier how that happens, mate?

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
Yeah, well you go to Phil Why is it leaking?
Oh that's why. Cheers boys?

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Right, then, Steve, let's talk Moto GP. I feel like
we've already kind of chatted about this, what we thought
about the racing general. I think it's been people have
been a bit more harsh on it than it deserved.
But the sprint was shit. So let's dive into the sprint,
shall we.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:19:26):
Fifth place in the sprint then Steve was fermin Aldegare,
another solid performance from the rookie, making up three places
from his eighth place starting spot, although most of these
did come after the Munnoth esque chaos caused by Fabio
Cortao going into turn one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Firm is on a tear at the minute. Mate, Yes
he was handed a few places in this one, but
all the same, this guy at the minute is on fire.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Yeah. I mean his Grand Prix was a bit shit,
to be fair, but yeah, is a really good generally.
Furman is looking really good this year.

Speaker 2 (01:20:02):
Yes, yeah, overall he is looking well yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
Yeah quite fourth place in this one. Then Steve and
I watched this happen. I then double took on the
day after it had happened, and then I came to
write the show notes, and I had to check three
different sources to make sure this was correct. Fourth place
in this one was Luca Marini. What the mark? This

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was a stellar weekend aboard the HRC machine for Luca.

Speaker 2 (01:20:37):
Mate. This this weekend for Luca and the Hondas in general,
the factory Honders in general, was incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:20:46):
Yeah yeah, I mean me have finished sixth in the
sprint as well, So just an all round great result
for HRC.

Speaker 2 (01:20:52):
Yeah. Yes, they benefited a little bit from the chaos
at the start of the race, but even so they
held their own through this sprint. That just goes to
show that the bounds the leaps that Honda have made
so far.

Speaker 1 (01:21:08):
A new chassis this weekend, Wasn't there a new chassis
for both Marini and mir Zarko did not get the
new chassis. No, I imagine he will be getting it
quite soon. But yeah, so the new chassis, at least
around this circuit was clearly working, and yeah, marinly just
got the most of it. I mean, we'll get to
him in the Grand Prix, but he was overtaken to

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Catti's legitimately overtaken to Catties.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Luca of old fantastic, Make this rider for the sprint
rider of the race of.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
Me, maybe for the weekend. To be honest, I think
Lucy Marine might have been the rider for the weekend.
He's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:48):
Yeah, this goes. It's just fantastic. This is just galvanized
for me, the commitment that Honda has shown to development.
You know, we know they're no slouch, they never have been,
but it's just unfortunately we have to see that massive
dip and that slow progressive curve to come out, but
that seems like it's getting steeper. We just need now
to get to the next race and to see if

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they run this new chassis again, which I'm sure they will,
and to see if they can improve on their last
couple of rounds and to see what happens. But this
to be this weekend. It's virtually run the race for
me this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Yeah, just absolutely cracking. Next race is Catalonia, which we
know is a super low grip circuit. I don't know
how the Honda's going to perform around there, but we
will find out.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Certainly will.

Speaker 1 (01:22:38):
Third place then Steve Frankie morbid Deli and you know,
if Alex Marquez won't get on the podium. It's only
right that another GP twenty four does. But Frankie looked
solid throughout this race, but he didn't have enough to
keep his teammate behind. Still, there was another podium out
of the collection, and this was kind of the the
Frankie again. I feel like I've said this a few

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times this year. This is the I expected to see
last year and certainly this year riding the GP twenty four.
It's a kind of a shame for me. He is
a big Frankie fan that he does feel like he's
the weakest of the ducats right now. He does feel
like he's the one that's not performing as well as
he should be consistently. But occasionally he's still showing these

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flashes that he has still got it. It's annoying that
he hasn't got it all the time. But yeah, a
solid sprint from Frankie and I was quite impressed with
him in this one.

Speaker 2 (01:23:30):
Yeah, Yeah, this does feel like a much needed good
result for Frankie because I think you're right. I think
when you look at the lineup of Takatties, he is
possibly the weakest of that lineup, which is a real shame. Yeah,
but then he goes and has massive flashes of brilliance
like this weekend. Yes, he couldn't keep Fabio behind him,

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but he's still in the podium and this is needed,
much needed, quite.

Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
And second place mentioned was Fabio digit Antonio. Much like
my previous comment, if Peco can't get it on the box,
then it's only right that another GP twenty five does. Overall,
a great performance in the our forty six squad. It
feels like it's sort of come out of nowhere after
a disappointing few rounds for Rossie's team. But seeing Fabio
and Frankie back up there, it was quite nice.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
This was really nice. It was the TNT sport feed.
They had Lucio team boss in for an interview and
you know, this is before the sprint, and he was
saying some really nice things about these guys and about
the weekends, and it was really nice to see that
rewarded with this double podium. So it would be nice

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if this happened more often, but it's just with the
current talent crop, it kind of just feels like it's
not going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah, and that's a bit of a shame. Because we
kind of felt going into this year, didn't we They've
got a GP twenty five, they've got a GP twenty four.
I think we kind of this to be happening all
the time. We kind of expected these two guys to
be ahead easily of Alex Marquez and herman Aldegaer in
the Grassini squad. But that's not born the reality this year.
But every now and again we see these flashies from

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them and we're like, oh, yeah, that's why, that's why
they're there, because they are clearly excellent riders, even if
they can't seem to access that all the time this year.

Speaker 2 (01:25:24):
Yeah, see, it would be nice if they can unlock
it all the time, But then we can't have four
or five riders on the third step.

Speaker 1 (01:25:33):
So exactly exactly, and we can't have four or five
riders on the first step over Steve because they're just
etched on that. And winning this sprint yet again was
Mark Marquees. Narrowly avoided the carnage at the start, but
after that pulled out solid two second lead by the

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end of the race and looked absolutely imperious at doing so.
As this has become the no this year, no one
had anything for Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
No, I've already scrolled to the GP notes.

Speaker 1 (01:26:07):
Easy. Okay, Well, that's that done with because we're only
going to talk about him again in a minute.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
Exactly, we might as well just do it in one
big hit.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Quite, So let's get it on to the Grand Prix then, Steve.
Now before we do talk about the Grand Prix, we
do have to talk about the penalties here, because there
was a lot of penalties going on into the Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
There was, yeah, after the sprint.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Well, Jack Miller and Alex Marquez both received three place
grid penalties for the Grand Prix after impeding other riders
during Friday's practice session. They both got caught up in
the same instant, which also involved Fabio diggian Antonio, although
he didn't get pinged for doing anything wrong. Essentially, Alex
Marquez sort of thought Fabio was in his way and

(01:26:56):
then sort of stopped on the racing line. We wanted
to stop, but slowly the racing line, waving his arms
around at Fabio, and then that meant he got into
Jack Miller's way. So Jack Miller, we're seeing this happen,
did the same thing, waved his arms are out, swearing
Alex Marquez and Fabio forgetting in their way, and then

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Bagnia came around the corner and essentially found three bikes
on the racing line, all gesticulating each other, all in
his way, so they dig He didn't get a penalty
because he was actually off the circuit at the time,
like he was off the circuit, off the racetrack, out
of the way, whereas the other two were in the
way and having.

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
A still active live circuit.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
So exactly, so pecos and their time was screwed because
of them. And yeah, both Miller and Marquees were punished
with three place grip place for the Grand Prix. Then
in the sprint, Fabio Cosserraro's over exuberant move a turn
one earned him along lap penalty, while Annea Bassi crashed

(01:28:00):
with Zarko a few corners later earned him a double
long lap penalty because this was his second offense of
this nature this year, so it was Fabio's first defense
one long lap penalty, Bassinini's second two long lap penalties. Now,
Bassianini claims his crash wasn't his fault. He claims that
when Katari hit him, his ride height device was damaged.

(01:28:23):
And it got stuck down, so the bike didn't stop
or respond as it should have done going into turn
nine where he crashed into Zarko Tech three apparently took
this data to the stewards to prove this was the case,
but this seems to be have been ignored by Crayfar
and the steward's panel, who put the fault for the
crash squarely on the shoulders of Bassiannini. Now this is

(01:28:43):
quite interesting. I can only imagine at some point during
his chat with the stewards, Bassigini said something like, oh, yeah,
I knew the ride height device was damaged and that's
what caused the crash. And I imagine, now I don't
know any of this, but I imagine that kind of
conversation would have then gone, well, if you knew it

(01:29:03):
was damaged, why did you go for the move?

Speaker 2 (01:29:05):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
They kind of went there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:08):
Yeah, if that's this is all hypothetical, of course this
is conferred over t him on this one. It does
seem that way. If the ride height device had been
damaged and you carried on racing and you knew it
was going to be a problem, you should have retired
because you cannot.

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
Or at least not made a stupid dive.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
Yes, yeah, or somehow kept kept it gentlemanly because yeah,
we've seen people have to retire before for damaged ride
height devices. So if you knowingly carried on racing with
a damaged bike, then yes, it's full of.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Your fault, exactly. But at the same time, we've seen
Zarko do you know, five six, seven laps with damaged
ride height device because he knew it was damaged, but
just on it's going to date, but he stayed well
out of everyone's way while he.

Speaker 2 (01:29:54):
Was doing exactly that. Yeah, if you're if you're trying
to make overtakes with the damaged right device, you no,
it's not going to work, So then yes, it is
fully your fault. So but obviously this is hypothetical. We
are spitballing ideas here, but it does seem like probably
the most feasible answer.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah, exactly. And it's a shame really because it really
screwed Basting in his weekend because what he qualifies warf
like he was.

Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
Even got his T shirt on.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
You have bastard, but yeah, he he his weekend was
absolutely screwed by Fabricatraro Initially in the sprint, and then
by his own actions in the sprint that screwed his
Grand Prix as well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:40):
Yeah, early bath, early shower, early flight home.

Speaker 1 (01:30:44):
Yeah, because then he did actually crash out of the
Grand Prix. Did he manage to get back on surface penalties?
Or are they coming over to Catalunya?

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
I think they're coming over to Catalunia. I can't remember,
which is a bit of a shame.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
Yeah, quite there racing, He's racing, mate, exactly, which then
Steve brings us to the Grand Prix top five. Yes,
so in fifth place again? What the fuck? Luca Prini
doing it again? I honestly, I assumed the sprint was

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a one off, but now Luca's got this shit. What
a weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:31:24):
This guy had it all weekend mate. He looked so good.
Me what happened to me the Grand PRIXO? I can't
remember now. He didn't crash, but he was further down
the order for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:31:34):
Where did mea finish in the Grand Prix? Let me
have a quick look. He know he retired. He retired
from the Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
I can't remember why. But anyway, Luca this weekend had
a fabulous weekend. So we all thought, you know, maybe
after the sprint it was a one off or something,
but come the full distance, this guy rode a fantastic race.
So we just need one more round just to solidify
that first kind of like Hondura back in the top five,

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they're not a title threat, but they are challenging for
the higher points.

Speaker 1 (01:32:09):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I'm just trying to work out what
happened to mer He crashed out by himself. I don't
think he was taken out. I know he crashed at
the same time as Ralfernandez, but they just both had
the same crash. They weren't involved in each other's crash.

Speaker 2 (01:32:30):
Oh that's it, Yeah, I do remember now, Yes, that
is the one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Fourth place then was Jorge Martin.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
Oh mate, what a weekend for comebacks.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Mate, wasn't it. It was just such a great weekend
for just these great storylines. Martin had such a good
race coming from seventeenth on the grid. Martin tore through
the field in the early lap, then just continued to
chip away at riders. He was one of the very
few that could make overtakes, and to be fair, after
that one, I think he made three or four overtakes,

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so it's not like he carved his way through the field.
But as we said earlier, it took the truly special
riders this weekend to make the overtakes, and my team
was one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
Yeah, yeah, the guy did special things this weekend. He
has picked himself right back up and is in my eyes,
just building himself back up to where he left off.

Speaker 1 (01:33:32):
Yeah whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
One of my favorite shots on this weekend is a
picture of my scene in the in the in his
box after the race with his i think girlfriend's wife
or something, and the guy looked so emotional, you know,
his back, he's realized that he's raced to good race
and she's just there consolidating. And whoever shared it had

(01:33:53):
done it in black and white, and it was a
truly lovely photo of these two and it just kind
of signifies the pain that he's through, the fight that
he said to come back, and it brings in that
loved one element who's been there with him all the
way through. And it was a really nice shot to see.
Not often we spread all about showing partners and family
behind the scenes, but this one, and it's good grace

(01:34:15):
was really nice to see.

Speaker 1 (01:34:17):
Yeah, no, that's fair. I think, just a great weekend
for our team. He looked properly chuffed after the race,
like this just yeah, just a fantastic result. How far
back did he actually finish for his teammate, It was
a good few seconds away.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
It was three seconds, wasn't it was?

Speaker 1 (01:34:34):
It was I it.

Speaker 2 (01:34:35):
Yeah, I don't think it was that much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:37):
Okayt me, look, I'll have it in front of me
in one second. It's here. He finished Yeah, four three
and a half four seconds back, so yeah, not bad
at all. His teammate then, Marcobzeki did finish this one
in third, rounding out a great race for a Prittier.

(01:35:00):
Let's once again looked properly on form and he was
leading at the start and managed to pull a bit
of a gap on the field until the inevitable happened
and Mark Marquez Guy's clause into him quite literally, not
for the first time that race.

Speaker 2 (01:35:14):
No, No, these two had a nice little tussle. Berzeki
showed form. He was carving through it, taking a race
just this weekend for a Prillier. It was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
Yeah. Now they're brilliantly coming on really strong. Now they're
two good lead riders, like that that Factory team is
looking really really good.

Speaker 2 (01:35:37):
Yes. Yeah, once Marti is back and fully dialed into
this bike alongside Berzeki, they're going to be a proper threat.

Speaker 1 (01:35:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:35:44):
Year is going to be interesting. Yes, it's going to
be very very interesting. I don't want to say I
can't wait for next year already because there's a lot
of this year to go. But for the Factory of
Brillier boys, next year has to already look really tempting
and inviting.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Yeah quite. I mean they've just got to use the
rest of this year to keep pushing, keep pushing hard.
And then are they going to challenge mar Marquez next year?

Speaker 2 (01:36:09):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:36:09):
Probably not, But I finished second to Mark Marquez. Next
year maybe, very very possibly.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
I would say at the minute, one of these two guys,
if if they can keep this upward trajectory going, they
look the most likely to take the fight to markets
dramatic doesn't happen this season.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Yeah quite. And the thing is I can't see them
doing that over a season, but there certainly you could
see a reality next year in where mart Marquez doesn't
win fucking stupid amount of races and that he's got
a bit more he'll still seal the deal with three
or four races to go. But you know, we'll have
one of those seasons where the aprillers will win a
few races. There'll be a KTM that wins a race

(01:36:54):
or two. Like, there's going to be more winners next year,
I think and Jue Martin are going to be, yeah,
exactly second place in this one. Then Steve was Pedro
a Costa, but Paster, being so close to Mark all weekend,

(01:37:15):
Pedro just fucked it in qualifying, nearly killed a camera
operator in the process. This was scary, man, Like that
fucking bike flew out of the gravel. It's like he
crashed into the gravel and you're like, that's a pretty
fast crash. And then his bike was like hold my beer,
and you just went tumbling like an up and into

(01:37:37):
that camera tower to the point that you were like,
oh shit, and thankfully everyone was fine. I think it's
gone pretty viral. He's probably literally the most famous GP
cameraman right now. Wild I quite liked Pedro thing at
the end of the race, stopping by that just like yeah,
give him away. Yeah, I quite liked that. That was nice.

(01:38:00):
Types that was Pedro being the showman that we all
know he can be, but yeah, have a scary man.
But that fuck his weekend. He really screwed qualifying for him,
and then he had a lot of work to do.
He managed to get back onto his second bike and
qualifying seventh, but he should have been second if not,
like he was the only guy that he should have

(01:38:21):
wasted Marquers.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Yeah, absolutely, he's the only one that looked like he
had the pace to go with him this weekend. Yeah,
but around his seventh is too far back, so quite Yeah,
this really did screw him up.

Speaker 1 (01:38:38):
With the start of the sprint though he looked like
he might be on a good line, do you know,
being the top three or four coming out of the
first corner, But he got caught out in the Coatraro
crash and then crashed himself for trying to make up
ground and fighting with Martin. But in the Grand Prix
it did come together. He managed to make good overtakes,
eventually finished the solid P two and you know he's

(01:39:01):
got another silver trophy to take home. That's all good
and well, but I think it was a disappointing weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:39:07):
I think for him. If I was in his shoes
and I had that pace, I would probably be quite
disappointed with it because Marquez is running away with this
and you want the accolade. There's one out there that
we haven't had since we've had Mark two point zero
back is a person who, when he's on this kind

(01:39:30):
of form, can take the fight to him. And it
looked this weekend like pre qualified and practice like he
could be that one. Yeah, and if you could suddenly
be that guy who is tussling it out were marquees,
you're going to be remembered.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
That's fair, I tell you what. Though, the only other
time I could think off the top of my head
in Motor Tip, where Pedro Acosta looked like he had
the pace to genuinely win a race, he managed to
crash in both the sprint and the Grand Prix. So
this is all didn't improvement from Meteggi last year.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
Yeah, that is true. That's very fair.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
You know, maybe one day Pedro get it all together
and all click and he'll manage to win a race.
But I don't know, man Like, he just seems to
do weird things at the moment, Like whenever he looks
like he might have a chance, he seems to be
choking And don't want to say Pedro's a choker because
I don't believe that. The evidence so far in my
GP says that he might choke occasionally.

Speaker 2 (01:40:27):
I yeah, we've all had girlfriends like that. I mean, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:31):
God, Steve, I no boyfriends like that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:40):
To be fair, Yeah that's true. I mean that's a
different story.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
But no, So that was Pedro a good result in
the end. I had him in my fantasy league, so
I was pretty tough for the second place. But yeah,
I don't know. I just feel like I'm a little
bit disappointed, which is what all of my girlfriends have
said about me. So that's.

Speaker 2 (01:41:06):
I think there's elements of this weekend he could be
disappointed with, but as many positives to take away that
could condone those disappointments.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Yeah, winning this one then, Steve. Obviously, let's talk about
marquess seven on the bounce, his longest win streak since
twenty fourteen continues. He know was one hundred and seventy
five point gap over his brother, which is almost a
full five race weekends worth of points, and he looked

(01:41:39):
so at ease this weekend. The mic was just doing
its thing and he didn't even look like he was trying.

Speaker 2 (01:41:48):
I I don't know what to make of this guy
at the minute. It's just different level. Someone's plugged in
the access key and unlocked a new load of new
code es and he can just do whatever he wants
and it doesn't seem to matter where we are or
what happens around him.

Speaker 1 (01:42:10):
I do know what's going on with him. He's just
the best rider we've ever seen. Yeah, it's as simple
as that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
That is simply it. Because there's other people out there
on the same machine as him, And there's other riders
out there who could on the same machine as him
probably bridge this gap, but not.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Many of them. Man, Like he's clearly showing this year
that there's not many, Like there's not that many questions
to be asked, Like it would be great to see
Jim Martin on the same bike as him, It'd be
great to see Fabia Quadra on the same bike as him.
But last year I said it was going to be
really good to see pekabag Nyah on the same bike
as him, and that challenge has just fallen apart. Like,

(01:42:56):
I just don't know, I just don't think there is
anyone on the grid right now that's got anything for him.

Speaker 2 (01:43:03):
No, if you let this guy get to the front,
he's gone, Yeah, he's going to sail the way with it.
And it's going to take a very Dovvy esque rider
eventually to take this challenge to him, and it's going to.

Speaker 1 (01:43:20):
Be problem is for that scenario, is you need Yeah,
it's gonna be a hard slog, absolutely, But for that scenario,
you need the dovs character to be on a bike
that is significantly better than the bike Mark Marquez is on.
There's not a bike that's significantly better than the G five. Yeah,
the GP twenty four we assume is a little bit better,
but not enough better that the Ducatis versus the Honda

(01:43:45):
in you know that twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen, when Mark
was dueling with Dovey, Like, there's no way Dovey was
beating Mark if they were on equal machinery.

Speaker 2 (01:43:54):
I think the only time we're going to see a
level or any kind of level playing field is twenty
twenty seven. Now, when the new bike comes out, new
cropper riders like Pedro's got another year's experience and has
moved on to whatever machine he's on. We've had all
the silly seasons, people have switched to Prillier have done
their thing. Then we're at that kind of level Peggin

(01:44:18):
scenario that's going to be it's so hard, so hard. Yeah,
even next year, I think it's going to be a
bit of a runaway for him.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Oh, I don't doubt that. I doubt next year. You know,
next year. If Pecker Bag and I can finish second
Marquez next year, then I think Pecker has had a
good year. But Marc has just got his name on
the next two trophies. As long as everything goes.

Speaker 2 (01:44:43):
To plan, Yeah, he's going to win as many, if
not more racers next year. I'm sure of it.

Speaker 1 (01:44:50):
I don't think he would win as much. I could
see next year being a bit more, a bit tighter
with the race wins. But I think Marquez is going
to do kind of his twenty six the championship, where
you know, he only wins six races across the year,
but he's nearly always on the podium, and the other
guys on the podium are swapping and changing all the time,
so he's still going to open out a huge points

(01:45:11):
gap without actually winning quite so much. I think that's
what's going to happen next year.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
I know, because everyone's so fickle. Everyone else is so
fickle at the minute, we're relying on them making such
bridges next year.

Speaker 1 (01:45:23):
That yeah, well, I could see them making bridges at
certain circuits, Like I could see you both of your
Prillier guys winning three races each next year. I could
see you know, Alex Makez winning a race next year,
see peggerback Nyer winning a couple of races next year.
Marquez has only got to win six races and then
be on the podium at every other round and job done.
He's easily sealed the title up before we get back

(01:45:44):
to Europe after the flyways.

Speaker 2 (01:45:45):
Yeah maybe I think. I just think next year he's
going to be on the post unless he crashes. He's
going to be on the podium every race, Sprint and GP.

Speaker 1 (01:45:57):
But that's true of the rest of the season as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:00):
Yeah, it's just gonna be this season, I'm sure of it, really, Yeah,
which gonna make for boring viewing and we're gonna be
relying on everyone else behind him. But it also means
we're gonna be closing down like the all time win
record bloody bla, all the accolades that come with it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:18):
Let's not forget next year he'll be going not not
only to match Valantino Rossi's championship records, but I'll take
them exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
So there's another big notch. And we saw how frosty
they were last weekend at the last round, so.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
Yeah, yeah, I didn't even talk to each other, did
not even acknowledge each other's existence.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Though there's some deep rooted emotions there, so we say, yeah,
I think it was probably more of the part of Valentino.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
Valantier did this to himself. Unfortunately, he made my Marquez.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Yeah he did. He played a part in molding this boy.

Speaker 1 (01:46:54):
Absolutely absolutely. I saw a great YouTube short with Casey
Stone the other day. It was just Casey Casey, who
is in fine shape at the moment, he's looking jacked,
but it was Casey started doing some podcasts with someone
and he just Vanier Rossi's biggest mistakes. He made an
enemy of me, and then he made a bigger mistake

(01:47:16):
by making an enemy of Mark Marquez, and it just
just this moment. He's like, Valentiner Rossi would have won
the twenty fifteen championship if you hadn't made an enemy
of mart Marquez, and I was like, wow, even Casey
Stone is saying this the same thing that Valentino has
been saying for years. Even Stoner agrees with him. But
the difference is that Rossi blames Marquez and Stoner blames Rossi.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
Yeah. I think he's right. Really, Rossie's ego better better
of him. I'm sure what happened to Marcus at some point.

Speaker 1 (01:47:45):
But and this is the mad thing, isn't it. There's
going to be a future in which we're going to
see that the crumbling of Mark Marquez when he meets
what happened his Mark Marquez. Like volunteer Rossi crumbled when
he met this Mark Marquez.

Speaker 2 (01:47:57):
It will happen.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Yeah, it will and even that's quite exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:48:03):
Yeah, exactly. It will be hard to watch to start with,
but it will happen. It's inevitable.

Speaker 1 (01:48:10):
Yeah, unless he does what we always hope a great
champion will do, wins the title and goes Plus me,
I'm happy walking away.

Speaker 2 (01:48:18):
Yeah maybe maybe, I don't know, though, we'll have Christ
We're talking a long way off yet. We'll have to
just sit back on our laurels, drink some fosters.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
Exactly, so Steve, that then brings us to the end
of the races. So before we go, let's quickly recap
our predictions for the weekend. We shall let's have a
look at so for anyone that is neutra the show
and is managed to get this far, congratulations. But Steve
and I have a prediction league going on between ourselves

(01:48:53):
where we predict the podiums for both the Sprint and
the Grand Prix and give ourselves points if we gets
in the correct positions. It's three points of a rider
in the correct position, one point of a rider is
on the podium but in the incorrect position. Steve is
beating me up until this race weekend by six points

(01:49:14):
in a championship. So let's get to it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:17):
Steve, let's recap, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
The actual result in the sprint race Steve was a
Mark Marquez win, a Fabo di jan Antonio second, and
a Frankie Morbdelli third. I predicted a mart Marquez win
and Alex Marquez second and Marco Bozeki third, scoring me
just three points for having Mark Marquez in the correct position.
You predicted a Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez second

(01:49:41):
and a Pedro Acosta third, giving you three points for
Mark Marquez in the correct position. And then the Grand Prix.
The actual result was a Mark Marquez win, Pedro Acosta
second and Marco Bozeki third. I predicted and Mark Marquez
win Bazeki second and a peckaback Nia third. That's scores

(01:50:03):
me four points. That's three points for Mark in first,
one point for bez on the podium in the incorrect position.
There you predicted a Mark Marquez win, Alex Marquez second,
and a Peco back ninth third, giving you just three
points for Mark Marquez. So I scored seven point Steve,
you scored six. My tally has gone up for one
hundred and eight to one hundred and fifteen. Yours has

(01:50:26):
gone up from one hundred and fourteen to one hundred
and twenty. I've clawed back another point. This gap is closing, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:50:33):
It's yeah, yeah, that healthy lead I had is slowly
been chipped.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Away down to five points.

Speaker 2 (01:50:40):
Now, my friend, that's touchally distance.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
Would you rather be the hunter or the hunted.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
At this point, I think I'd rather be the hunter.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Interesting because I'd rather be the hunted. So maybe we'll
just what all right?

Speaker 2 (01:50:52):
Fair enough?

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
That then Steve does bring us to the end of
this show. We are pushing very close to two hours here.
So next week we will touch on the Fantasy League
and we will chat about anything else we've missed. Unless
there's anything burning, any burning desire you want to talk.

Speaker 2 (01:51:13):
About, I don't think so. The only thing I would
mention is did you see the trophies, the GP trophies?

Speaker 1 (01:51:21):
No? I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:22):
Oh mate, you need to look that up. Perfect white
porcelain trophies. They were fantastic. So are the best of seen?

Speaker 1 (01:51:30):
Oh really?

Speaker 2 (01:51:31):
Yeah? Yeah, A lot of people have mentioned this, just
how nice these were. They're fantastic. Kind of tiled looked
a little bit like a vase in the GP and
the Moto GP Championship kind of tiled style.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Oh yeah, I see them now. They are looking pretty nice,
aren't they.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
They're nice. Yeah, that will look good in my God,
with the set of rotors in it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
It's funny because they do look like a boogie plant pot.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
Is very boogie. That's a good word to describe it.
But I like it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:06):
A lot of people. But you could you could. I
absolutely if I'd want one of those that would be
growing a plant, and.

Speaker 2 (01:52:12):
I'd have it in the living room. I'd either keep
the champagne bottle and I'd have it in it with
a rose in there, one single little we rose, or
I just have to plant the whole bush in it.
But I'd like in the champagne bottle with the one rose.

Speaker 1 (01:52:29):
Yeah. That's that's beautiful. Quite of the work of it.
I like the fact it looks a bit like armor.

Speaker 2 (01:52:33):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's a very nice piece they did. Well.

Speaker 1 (01:52:37):
Yeah, nice good work. That's not the kind of trophy though,
you'd want to be throwing up and catching, is it. No,
it looks celebration.

Speaker 2 (01:52:44):
Yeah. I've often wondered if you get a trophy like that,
did they give you a fake kind of like podium
one and then give you the real one at the back.

Speaker 1 (01:52:52):
I do wonder that sometimes, but we've seen it in
various times before. It has in Formula one more. But
where a trophy breaks or something weird happens because the
one they always go with really wanky trophies. Everyone wants
to be having this really wanky, unique trophy, and quite
often they're like, you know, it's a really massive trophy,
but it's only on the stand by two tiny stems.

(01:53:12):
And someone like Lando Norris, who is just a bit
of fucking clots, will just end up breaking it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Well it's trophies broken the Motor GP. But this one
looks like it would probably break your foot if you
dropped on it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
Yeah, and there's a lot of super clue to put
I like together.

Speaker 2 (01:53:26):
Yeah, I'm not sitting there doing that. I'd be like,
just man, well get me another one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:30):
Yeah, exactly, something on that line.

Speaker 2 (01:53:34):
But yes, yeah, that was it. That's all I want
to mention.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Nice. Okay, now we go beautiful trophies.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
Trophies. Well, they're hungry for lovely trophies.

Speaker 1 (01:53:44):
So guys, that brings us to the end of the show.
Thank you very much for listening. If you have any questions,
any comments, anything you want to say to us, you
can find us on.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
We Are for Love of Motor GP and you can
find us on Instagram and Twitter or come and join
the Facebook community that's been kicking off a little bit
this week. That's been good. Have enjoyed that. If anything
else correct your corner. Let's face it, we've not had
shit all for that for this year and we haven't
got this much right, People's face it, drop us a lot.
Let us know. We are for the Love of Motor

(01:54:15):
GP at gmail dot.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
Com, and we are also over on Patreon, so if
you want to come and help us out over there,
it would be much appreciated. You get access to us
a monthly show at any paid level. I kind of
wonder whether I should do this Patreon shout out earlier
in the show as well, because I think most people
are turned off by now.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
I think we shoul probably inject this into the start.
We might have to do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
That, yeah, exactly, and next week, Steve, if that's okay
with you, we will record next month's Patreon show weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:54:46):
We could certainly do that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:48):
Excellent. I've already the notes should be a ned box already,
But then we go that's adaman. That does not to
be need to be on the outro of a podcast.
So I'm just going to stop that there, and I'm
going to thank everyone once again for listening. As per usual,
It's much appreciated. So stay safe and look after each other,
and we will speak to you next week with our
preview of Catalunia. So yes, stay safe and look at

(01:55:10):
each other. Goodbye to you, guys. Music is by Andrew Greenwood.
Thanks for listening. Goodbye,

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