The Streak is Over & Brotherly Love Shines Through – MotoGP 2025 Catalunya Review - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Steve, my good man, How the devil are you?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh? Good, buddy, how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:08):
I'm very good, my friend, I'm very good. How was
your weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Yeah it was good man, nice family weekend. As always,
the race it was on whether it was all right,
can't complain really, it was a good one.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Nice that will do the job.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah, how was yours?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
I feel like I say the same thing every week
at the moment, Steve. But we're rapidly on the countdown
to the end of the summer season here in Scotland.
So I've got three weeks left, so every day is
feeling a bit groundhog Day. But then when I look
back and go, well, shit, I've been here for five
months now and it's really flown by.

Speaker 2 (00:42):
Yeah, it does feel like your season this year has
really just chugged by. Man, it's gone so quick. So, yeah,
the end is nigh.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
The end is nine indeed. But now at that point
where I didn't really realize how close it was, and
now the next three weeks are really going to drag.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
As soon as you start to realize stuff like that,
all of a sudden, it's just like whoa, hang on, Yeah,
that end is properly close.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Exactly, And I'm also looking at the caravan with dread
because obviously this is that last time I hear. So
I've got to now pack up the last six years
worth of my stuff, try and get it all in
the car and get it down the road to someone's house.
I haven't really established where it's going to go yet.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
But just the point where you're going to borrow you loft.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
No, it's okay. Shouldn't come to that. If I get desperate,
I will ask you, but it shouldn't come to that.
I'm I've got stuff dotted around four or five different
houses at the moment, between different family members, so I
can probably find room in one of those places. But
this is the problem with having this weird life that
I have, where I don't really have a house or
anywhere to live, and I just sort of float around,

(01:50):
not doing anything most of the time, like a bit
of a vagrant.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Last of the true nomads, mate.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Yeah, a nomad that's truly relying on everyone else to
look after their stuff. Because I'm not quite nomadic enough
to commit to owning just a backpack's worth full of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, yeah, I still have possessions.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
So yeah, exactly. A true capitalist nomad. That's what we
can call me.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yes, yes, definitely. Oh well End is near.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
My man, Yeah, End is near, so we will in October, Steve,
we'll have a few podcasts in person, which will be nice.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
That will be good.

Speaker 1 (02:25):
November December, I'm going to be in Nottingham, so we'll
have to record online again. But that's all good. That's
easy enough. We're very used to that again now. But
it'll be nice to be in the room for at
least a few weeks together in October.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yeah, that will be good. I'll have to clean the
table off, but where there's room in here, we can
get you in come and have a few beers in person.
We can throw tennis balls at your brother's house.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
It's great, Yeah, exactly. And it's all right. I can
see the table behind you there, Steve. It doesn't need
that much clear enough. You know. That's soundproofing. We could
call that there is soundproofing.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So it's the washing behind me. It's a bit like
a lawndrene here at the minute. Yeah, we've had a
few ways, so yeah, washing. You know what it's like
when you've been traveling as.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
You do, especially with kids. I imagine it's worse.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
God, Yeah, kids, three four outfits a day? Suddenly it's like,
where's their clothes? It's in the wash, damn it.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Three or four outfits a day? Is that an exaggeration or.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Is that a real thing?

Speaker 2 (03:20):
That can be a real thing depending on what they're doing.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Wow, I can wear one outfit for four days, save
our pants for a week?

Speaker 2 (03:27):
Only a week.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Another week before Maybe I'll take a baby wipe to
them or spray on with the odent.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Oh mate for breeze down. The old crack is fun.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Right. Well, on that note, Steve, we have more to
talk about, So shall we crack on with the show.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Let's do it, buddy, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
So I'm Tim, He's Steve. And this is for the
love of Moto GP. If you are new to the show, welcome.
If you are returning, welcome back. This is for the

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love of Moto GP, the show where Steve and I
sit down with a couple of beers and talk about
Moto GP like we would in the pub. Steve is
once again or not once again? Steve is on, as
I like to call it, Italian fosters, Italian.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Foot Yeah, I like the can I saw it in
the shop. I was like, oh, you know what, this
is really nice, so they'll prole Nestro Azoru.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh nice, and that you can throw that back to
at least his Motor GP themed exactly.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
So it has relevance and it's still got a blue
ring pool on it. So hop into the Foster's ken,
I'll do their job.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Happy days and I am once again on Scottish Fosters.
So that never sponsored a Motor GP team as far
as I'm aware, but have probably sponsored something at some point,
probably Scottis football. I'd imagine Highland games, Island games. It'd
be interesting. Actually, I bet they I bet they don't

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sponsor the Highland games. I bet that's always like local
whiskey distilleries.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah, that's going to be I don't know Talliska, someone up.

Speaker 1 (05:17):
There, Wow, Steve Taliska, off the top of your head,
that's incredible. That's three miles down the road from me.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Is it really? Look at that and you haven't brought
like you've never just stopped in a water bottle mate?

Speaker 1 (05:32):
You know how fucking it's stupid to buy it from
co Op and it is to buy it from the distillery.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
I bet from the distillery. It is expensive yeah, man.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
It's like their basic good sized bottle. It's like eighty
quid core.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Nasty, and they've got.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
They've got some really pricey ones in there as well.
I went in for a tasting once, but I don't
really like whiskey, so I didn't really understand a lot
of what was going on.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
No, I'm not I've massive found a whiskey bourbon. Yeah,
I love bourbon, but whiskey. It depends. It really does
depend on the whiskey.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
So I think technically bourbon is a whiskey, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's from the same kind of family, But there's I
think it's aged in different barrels or something.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, I think Asian oak. I don't fucking know, mate,
I haven't got a clue. Like a lot of whiskey
is just well over my head.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, I believe that is the the thing whiskey. Let
me have a quick look. Difference between between whiskey and bourbon.

Speaker 1 (06:33):
There use a different grain. Maybe I think it.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Could be something along that line. Yeah, I think one
small Whiskey is a broad category of spirits distilled with
fermented grain mash and aged in wooden barrels, while bourbon
is a specific type of America whiskey that must be
made in the US with a mash bill of at
least fifty one percent corn, aged in New chilred oak barrels,

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and cannot contain artificial colors or flavors.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Okay, wow, that's true of all whiskies. I didn't know
it was a corn mash as well. That's interesting. Would
you believe I a while ago did some work for
a whiskey company, just doing a lot of copy on
their website. Yep, And I obviously another fucking clue what
I was talking about.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
I saw.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
I didn't make it up. I just researched it as
I went, and it all went up on the website,
and they used all of the copy I gave them.
So either they didn't know what the fuck they were
talking about, or my research was pretty good.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
All right, take the letter. Yeah, I think that's always
the way. When we wing something and it goes right,
you have to take the credit that your research and
skills were on point.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Exactly these days, I could just written that with chat,
GPT and job done.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
That is true. That is true.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
There we are anyway, So the podcast, Steven, Let's get
to it. So, Yes, if you are new, this is
pretty normal. Steve and I will talk about for breezing
our pants, go off on tangents about booze and I
like to complain about how all of my writing jobs
were taken by AI. So that's good. So let's talk
motor g.

Speaker 2 (08:03):
Because we had a race we did, Yes, we did
the cat.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
The Cattle a Grand Prix exactly. It was an interesting
weekend because I feel like a lot of stuff happened.
We've got quite a lot to talk about. Yeah, but
the racing, specifically the premier class, left a bit to
be desired, even though there's still a lot to talk
about from the race as well as outside of it.

(08:29):
It's just it wasn't great.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
No it It wasn't bad by any stretch of the imagination.
But it wasn't the age old Catalan showdown that we've
had in the past. I think when it comes to Catalonia,
we associate it with like two thousand and nine, the
Great Rossy Lorenzo Battles, and it has thrown up some

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fantastic racing in the past, and it's one of those
tracks to me where every time the weekend rolls round
like cattle in near Barcelona, Spain. Alwa's going to be
fantastic and you set the bar so high naturally, I
think it's probably just an englishman of things. We do
it all the time.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
I don't know, man. I feel like I pretty and
have been pretty antique castle in here in the last
few years. Last year's race was really good, But for me,
I don't feel like we see a lot of real
great racing. When we do it's really good, but I
feel like the majority of the time is not really good.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
No, I think it still throws up fantastic racing, But
for me personally, I always think back to the great
races and expect a lot. So I'm very guilty of
hyping it up in my own mind and then being
very let down by their own feelings when it's a

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good race but not a fantastic race.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yes, yeah, that's fair. Yeah, yes, but this one regardless,
Steve did give us a lot to talk about. We'll
dive into a couple of news items. We'll talk about
the top fives in Moto three and Moto two, and
then we'll jump into the top fives in Moot GP
and cover a few more talking points as well.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Let's go for about it.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Excellent, So let's start off with the news. Then this
is the pre race shit that went down, and first
up here, the Pranak lineup is now confirmed. Jack Miller
has been officially confirmed to ride the Pranak Kamaha next year,
which now means officially Miguel Olivera is out.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Yeah, blessing. He's battered and bruised, and I think it's
probably time for a nice rest. When you look at him,
you're like Jesus, mate, you've been through a lot in
the last few years injury wise.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
He seems to not want to stop though.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, he's very keen to continue, and I think that's
just the natural born racer's mentalittality within him, which is
fantastic to see.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Excuse me, oh, that's still going wrong.

Speaker 2 (11:03):
It is all going wrong. That will come out. Yeah,
it's fantastic to see that he wants to continue that,
you know, and he has got links to World Superbikes
apparent there's offers over there. He's been linked to the
Aprilia test rider deal, so that is options apparently, would

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be fantastic to see him remain on the grid. But
there's all by one seat still confirmed, so it looks
like he's.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
On seat is essentially confirmed to be fair.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Yes, which is waiting for the confirmation. So yeah, the
girl's out Jackson, and it's gonna be quite an interesting
lineup next year Jack alongside top.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Rack, they're going to get through so many front brake pads.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
The stoppy challenge is going to be incredible.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
I did see a thing with Jack Miller where he
said something like, it's going to be the first time
in my career that I'm sharing a carriage with someone
who does a better stoppy than I do.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Yeah, exactly. There's going to be antics, goon racing.

Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, there'll be just initially some real dick measuring in
their stoppies as well, which is going to be quite
a lot of fun to watch them fucking about. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
I'd love to be a fly on the wall in
that garage all the time because it's going to be
some testoster get thrown around somewhere. I don't know, it's
going to be interesting. I'm looking forward to seeing the
two of them in the same team. Looking forward to now.
I wasn't overly keen on the thought of top Rack
leaving World Superbikes, but now it's confirmed always one the way.

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I'm kind of looking forward to it, see what.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
We could do.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
So, man, I don't know how I feel about it still.
I think it's going to be nice to finally get
it out of the way so we can stop discussing it.
But I don't know how The problem is is he's
not going to be anywhere near the front. And if
I think if I felt like he was going to
jump on a bike and be right racing at the

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sharp end, I'd be really excited about it. But I think,
especially the first year, it's going to be a bit
of a letdown. And it just means that I am
already like, oh, it's such a shame he's not fucking
about at the front again. He's just stuck down in twelfth.
Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the V four is going to
be amazing and they're going to be right at the
sharp end, but I'm struggling to get excited about it.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
Yeah, I'm jumping on the wagon because I'm looking forward
to seeing what he could do now now it's actually happening.
Before I was like, just stay where you are, stay
with BMW, you know, keep doing these great things that
he's doing over a world superbikes. But now it's confirmed,
I'm on board for it, and that's what Sue we
could do, if more for the antics than anything that's fair.

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That bit is gonna be fun. I think he's gonna
bring a lot of life and laughter to the paddock.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yes, yeah, I agree. I think it will be fun
having him there. But yeah, as far as the racing goes,
I think I mean, aside from Fabia Coasturro right now,
the Yama Hospitals will not be there, so and I
don't think so I'll practice going to come in and
be as good as Quadero is at the moment. But no,
But like I say, maybe the V four is going
to be amazing. Maybe it's really going to suit him.
Maybe it doesn't really matter what next year does, because

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it's all a learning year for a real effort in
twenty twenty seven with a new REGs and then new.

Speaker 2 (14:22):
Tires exactly, we'll get a little snippet of this V
four at the weekend. We know it's going to be
on track at Mazzano, so we get a little a
little teaser.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
Yes quite.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
And actually, to be fair, I did have to further
down the notes about the V four, But we're pretty
much on it now. It's they have already been writing
it like Couderraro, Miller, Dovey and Rins. I think all
roade it this weekend or this week sorry, at a
private test at Barcelona after the race weekend. So the

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Yamaha V four is now on track. There's there's no
official times for so far because this was just a
private test, but David Emmett over at Moto Matters said
that his sources are told in fabious times on the
bike were this is on the vple but about one
point five seconds off his Q two time from the
race weekend, which when you consider the test was played

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with intermittent rain, the damp and greasy, that time one
point five seconds if that's accurate. Considering this is a
bike Fabia has never ridden, not ideal track conditions, a
bike that is nowhere near properly ready. We don't think
to contest a full season. Like one point five seconds
feels pretty close, actually it does.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Yeah, that that to me is very encouraging, even just
the thought of like testing it on less than ideal track,
you know, a drying track or a mixed conditions track.
If he's only one point five off. I think that
says great things. So overall, I think that's really encouraging.
So I'll see what Fernandez could do it with it.

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This will coming weekend and have a look. Hopefully it
pistons inside itself, but we'll see.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Oh it won't.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
There's no chance, but that engine is going to blow
up at least once at the weekend. That's not a
criticism of Yamaha. I think we said this over the
last few weeks, Like Suzuki did that when they arrived
at that one off rider at Valencia, KTM did it too. Guys,
these factories bring a new, brand new machine to a
race and it blows up, So it's nothing on Yamahart.

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If it doesn't blow up, I will be very very surprised.
But if it does, they're still going to learn a
lot exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
They'll learn how to put a race engine together pretty
damn quick. Yeah that I'm having this Piston and Conrad.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Yeah, you know what, having Jack Miller on the bike like,
they need to learn how to rebuild a bike quickly.
So that's it's all useful training for everyone involved exactly.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, get some new marshals in a wait on marshals,
get some new technicians in here you go.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah, and maybe some marshalls. You know, they've got to
be able to pick the riders up and get the
trash bike on the back of the lorry quickly.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
Exactly speed test boys in the gravel.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, exactly, here we go.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
Right. So yes, the Yamaha V four. We will see
it at Mazzano. I'm excited to see it. I don't
think it's going to do very well, but it's going
to be cool to see it anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
I just want to see it. I just I'm very
soaked to see it.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
I'm looking forward to seeing actually how different the bike
is going to look to the in line four. Everyone
is saying that it needs to be the reason they're going.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
To V for.

Speaker 1 (17:37):
One of the reasons is because the inline four is
a much wider engine. V four is a much slimmer engine,
and with next years or twenty twenty seven rules coming in,
the bikes have to be slimmer. That's part of the
rule set with the arrow, so yamaharare having to shrink
the bike down. They couldn't do that with an inline force.
It was going to have to be be for anyway,
But I'm wondering whether we'll notice how much thinner it
is or whether it's going to be one of those

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you have to know what the fuck you're looking at.

Speaker 2 (18:02):
Not sure just yet. I think it's going to be
a case, and we will notice the difference with the
aero package onic, so that's going to be shaped differently,
so there'll be different kind of variations of the fairing.
So I think if we were to take a side
by side profile picture and at and a mug shot,
then we probably would.

Speaker 1 (18:23):
Yeah, it will be interesting to see. I'm looking forward
to it.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
Yeah, Yeah, I'm very very stoked for this.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Next up, then, Steve, the Tech three sale is now confirmed.

Speaker 2 (18:37):
It is yes, finally, thank god, rumors have been put to.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
Bed exactly so as we all suspected after news broke
a few weeks ago the good To Steiner was taking
over Tech three. Heave Ponchoerral sort of did a weird
denial but not really denying it at the time, But
now it is official. Good To Steiner of Drive to
Survive and Formula one fame is leading a consortium of

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investors to take over Tech three. The plan is GUNTA
will be the figurehead. He's the CEO or he will
be the CEO. And there is Richard Coleman, who is
a former touring car team boss. He will be taking
over like a team principal role. And there's a team
of investors from Icon Capital, Econ Capital, I don't know

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how you say it, but essentially a cautital investment group.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, happy days. I think this is a good thing.
I really do. Yeah, I really do. And it was
nice to see good To at the race of this
weekend and his enthusiasm looked incredible. Yeah, So I think
the going forward, I think it's a very good thing
for all involved.

Speaker 3 (19:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (19:53):
Absolutely. I mean Herve is going to get a big payday,
Gunter Steiner and the investors are going to get a
really solid team. GP is going to get good To Steiner,
and I also think that this is a statement of
confidence in where the sport is going under Liberty Media,
because people are willing now to spend money to invest
in it. Although both Steiner and Coleman claim the Liberty

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Media deal actually has nothing to do with their decision
and they were probably going to do it anyway, and
that's just the icing on the cake, which I think
is probably bullshit. I think Liberty Media have had a
lot to do with their decision to buy a team.

Speaker 2 (20:29):
I would imagine, So yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if
this deal hasn't been in talks for a very very
long time, and maybe even before Liberty Media acquired the
state that shares in Donna and Motor GP that maybe
they were waiting, hinging their bets to see what happened.

Speaker 1 (20:50):
That was exactly the case. I imagine there'd been conversations
going on and it was very much that let's wait
and see what happens with Liberty Media and then we
will get involved.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Yeah, yes, exactly that. I think it's a good thing.
I think the combination of like Liberty Media with the
fresh blood coming in from with like gun Throw and
everyone else, it's a good thing. And you know, on
a very side note, was heavily involved in the Drive
to Survived series. If we are to get another Netflix series,
well he's got the experience, so I think there's.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
A win win, yes exactly, And I think Liberty Media
are really going to leverage that and leverage gun to
Stein as following to attract new fans over There are
also rumors of Max Forstappen starting to look into how
to get involved with me GP and a team ownership sense. Now,
these rumors seem to have blown up very quickly and

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then been put out very quickly and then rumbled away
a little bit so. But even side of the fact
that it's being spoken about, and you know Lewis Hamilton
was looking at buying Grassini in the past. So there's
this big influx of interest in from the F one
world in MTORGP right now, which I think is just
a good thing for the sport, Like just more money
coming in and just a chance to really blow it up.

Speaker 2 (22:04):
Yeah, I think the refreshed interest in the sport at
the minute. But Liberty Media's acquisitions so you get a
bigger audience across the US going to Steiner In like
the Formula one. Guy's all taking an interest. It's all good.
The more viewers, the more people, the more bums on
seat we can get, the more merchandise sold, the more

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subscription sold. It's all money. It's all new viewers, fresh
blood coming into the sport, the backers racing as well,
bringing It's got the hardly favored into it as well.
It's opening doors left right and center. And even if
it's just a few hundred thousand people, extra viewers, extra fans,
that's still more people than we had before. And it's

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a very niche market. I think the way the direction
that Motor GP has been steered in at the minute
is fantastic in all senses. You've got the very full
talent pool of riders coming up, investment going left, right
and center. From every aspect. The future Remoto GP to

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me at the minute just looks fantastic.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
It looks fantastic as long as you don't have some
weird worldwide recession that's going to crumble the value of everything,
and then all these investors are like fark.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yes, yeah, that will be That would be disastrous. Yeah.
As so as there's no major changes in the world,
I think would be okay.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Yeah, So let's hope for no political instability, no genocide,
no walls in Europe, you know, none of those things.
Let's hope none of those things happen. Then now hopefully
everything will remain okay. Yes, peace and love, people, exactly,
Peace and love. Speaking of peace and love, Steve, So,
I didn't put this in the show notes where I

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sent them to you. Because I found out afterwards. But
I found out the reported value that Tech three has
been sold to the team of investors for. Have you
seen this number? I have not know In that case,
good because I would like you to guess as to
how much the Tech three Moto GP team is worth,
and what I assume by this evaluation, every privateer or

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independent team is worth. Right now, I'm.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Going to go, hey, thirty three million.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
I tell you what, Steve, you would have been closer
than me. I was surprised that I would have gone higher,
but I think I've spent too much time watching Formula
One and having being told what those teams are worth.
So the team sold for twenty million euros, which was
to me a surprisingly small amount. I assumed it was
going to be much more than. I'm sure if you're Herve,

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having twenty million quid coming into your bank account right now,
is you're going to be pretty sure it's a good thing, exactly.
But yeah, I assumed it was going to be more
than that. Obviously, you have much better estimation of what
these teams are worth than me. I was probably in
order of mantitude out I'd have been like, oh, two
hundred million.

Speaker 2 (25:05):
Yeah, I think we'll like being a privateer team. Although
they have got good links, they've got good people in there.
When you start looking at each piece broken down, it's
not that much. You know, the bikes, I know, what's
a Formula one car worth?

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Ohion on his own probably more than that. Like I
don't know, I don't know, but I can probably google it.
How much is it? How is an F one car?

Speaker 2 (25:37):
Ycause we know what a Moto GP bike at the
minute is worth. What about two million euros?

Speaker 1 (25:41):
So yeah, okay, so a modern Formula one car is
worth roughly twelve to twenty million.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
Jesus.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
However, this is the price for the car's construction. It
does not relate to the R and D that just
sticks all the engine Jesus Christ. An engine alone can
cost over ten million. So essentially, if you want a
rolling chassis for a Formula one car, you're twelve to
twenty million.

Speaker 2 (26:12):
That's insane when you start looking at numbers in modern
day racing. And that's just to say, just have context.
Quickly google how much of nineteen eighties Formula one car
would have been just to see the forty year kind
of progression, the leap. So I bet you somewhere around

(26:34):
five million. I say, like a mid eighties Formula one car.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
An eighties f one car could cost anywhere from fifty
to one hundred grand in the era that.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
It was built, right, so far less little? Yeah, So
take into forty year progression.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
That's madness, isn't it? For twenty x? No, two hundred times, yes,
two hundred times. The value that's just gone up. That's
outpaced inflation, that's outpaced house prices, that's outpaced the price
of bread. Like, that's just madness.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, that's nuts. How much that has gone off? Jesus.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Wait, so here you go.

Speaker 1 (27:21):
Here's one for you, steve the steering wheel on a
Formula one car. Go on, how much.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
They're probably somewhere in the reason are two million?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Okay, now fifty grand?

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Oh, fifty grand. Oh that's not too bad. I'll have three.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
I'm going to sell the house and I'm going to
buy three Ferrari steering wheels.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
That's still an insane amount of money. When you look
at the figures involved in modern day motorsport, it's just scary.
I mean, we've spoken to young riders up and covering
riders in the past and We've spoken to them and
said they've had like sixteen year olds have had to
personally raise fifty grand to go racing at club level.

(28:03):
It's just the numbers, the figures involved in this modern
day world are scary.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah, it's it's it's stupid money money.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
If you're in that world and you're used to it,
and I'm sure it's just like oh okay, yeah, you
can imagine like the purchase ledger officer in a Formula
one TV and you want to borrow I don't have
one hundred grand. What's this for a caterer truck?

Speaker 1 (28:25):
Oh yeah, sure, yeah, exactly, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
No where is you know, Doris is just signing checks
left right at the center.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
The Christmas party? Only three hundred grand this year? Are
you sure?

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Are you sure we're not hiring out the whole of
the Ritz or the Patrona's towers? Yeah? Quite, Yeah, it's
just nuts. The money evolved in modern day racing is scary.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
I visit did the Patrona's tower steeve if they had
a Formula one car mounted on the wall.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Nice, just the average everyday decoration.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Yeah, well, they sponsored the Mercedes team, so that's that
was the relation there. I have just looked it up
as well, and you can buy oe show formul the
one car, so you know, with none of the real components.
It just looks like it for about three hundred grand.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Just the show one.

Speaker 3 (29:19):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Oh well, if we have enough listeners and we all
pitch in it.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
There were times we don't have that many listeners, Steve
assure you.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
No. Yeah, yeah, money involved in racing modern day racing,
it's just nuts when you consider like the cost of fuel, logistics, wages,
everything on a monthly basis, it's just nuts and scary.
I'm glad that in some ways, you know, we love
the sport and in many ways it would be loved

(29:50):
to be It would be amazing to be involved in
some way, the like journalist following it, podcast following it,
and then you see sort of like the numbers involved.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
Well, to be fair, I don't think the journalists and
stuff are spending that kind of money. They're all on
pretty normal wages.

Speaker 2 (30:09):
Yeah, but well yeah for their travel bills kind of thing.
I mean, I'm sort of looking at it and thinking, God,
they must spend a fortune.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Following Yeah, absolutely, yeah, wages. I do mean, after all
of their expenses.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Yeah, it's just nuts, it's crazy. But getting back to
what we're talking about, massive tangent there, Yeah, I was
a good one. That was a good one all in all.
The renewed interest, that realod interest, the renewed investment coming
into Moto GP at the minute, it's it's all for
a good thing. Yeah, more followers, new avenues open to

(30:45):
bring more people across from Formula one, and a bit
of multi disciplined interest if you will. It's all good.
The futures look at rosy.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
Yeah, and I think that's the thing to be honest,
I think to grow this for you don't want to
compete against Formula one, No, you want to work with it.
And I think that's something that at the end of
the day, whether we think the racing is better in
Formula one or MAJIP is irrelevant. When Formula one are
you know, selling out three hundred thousand people at a
race weekend and there's many magib races that get ten
percent of that, Like, it's you can't compete with that.

(31:20):
You need to bring those fans over and let them
have both as opposed to trying to make them choose
one or the other.

Speaker 2 (31:26):
Yeah, yeah exactly. We know people who We've got friends
who are very dedicated to the Formula one and they
go over to Silverston every year, hire a camper van,
drive down, weekend tickets to take the kids, and they're
spending on average, I think they said about three grand
for this weekend.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
Mate. You go all inclusive for a week for that.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah exactly. You could get a decent holiday, a load
of flights somewhere around the world. But if you imagine,
like you sell out Silverstone and everyone sell. I don't
know if the capacity of Silverstone is a Formula one weekend.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
I think it's about quarter of a million, right.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
So three thousand tribes, two hundred and fifty thousand, what
was that A lot? A lot, we'll just call it
a lot, A lot of.

Speaker 1 (32:12):
All that money is not going Silverzen to be fair,
that's also paying for everything else for the weekend. But
even to get in, it's silly money, like for Formly
one weekend, like call it one hundred PoID a day
to get in, So you're looking at one hundred goid
a day with two hundred and fifty thousand people, call
it two hundred thousand people. Round it down. Yeah, what's
that twenty.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Million roughly around. Let's just do a bit of quick
mass on the old phone as times two five equals
oh seven hundred and fifty million nicker.

Speaker 1 (32:45):
Oh sure, it can't be that much.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
So three thousand quid times to five.

Speaker 1 (32:51):
Oh yeah, yeah, Okay, that's not what the mass I
was doing. I was just doing like ticket prices. Yes,
they will be getting a significant portion of that money,
but it's expensive to put on races man, And you
see THISGP is expensive to put on races. Promoters have
to spend a lot of money for Motor GP to
come to them.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Which I do.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
I find this a really strange business model to me.
I don't know why Motor GP and Formula one and
all of these things don't just manage their own races,
hire the track themselves, do all of the promotion themselves,
charge the ticket money themselves rather than selling it to
a promoter to do everything.

Speaker 2 (33:31):
I think then maybe you've got to have those staff
on board. If you just hire an event space, you've
then got to organize everything. There's more involved in there.
You've got to hire everything that would come as a
package deal with that track. So you've then got to
employ all your safety staff, everything else that everyone that

(33:53):
comes with that track, Whereas if you can hire it,
it's a package deal and it takes that kind of
that pressure off your shoulders. You know, we're coming to
you weekend.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
You know.

Speaker 2 (34:07):
It's like going on holiday, isn't it. You book a holiday,
you just whack a button. Whereas if you want to
go like traveling like you do, you've got all the
logistics of booking your flights, booking your hotels, your excursions.
Whereas if you just go on to e whack, pay
you three grand and you have to explain for a
week all inclusive in the sun.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
It's true it costs you more, but it's less work,
isn't it. You're either paying in time are you're paying
your money? I suppose it's the thing there, and I guess, yeah,
you're right. It's easier for dinner and for the owners
of these series, or at least for the commercial rights
of these series, to have someone give them a shipload
of money and then that person works out all of

(34:48):
the logistics and works out how the fuck are they're
going to make that money back?

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Yeah, exactly exactly. So there's pros and cons to both
sides of it.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
Firstly, I go, like his million quid, I'm just hired
on your track, but we're going to get all your stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
To come and yeah, exactly, I'll pay them by the
new du.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
Yes, yes, handsomely.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
Yeah right. Anyway, that's been a series of tangents there, Steve.
I didn't expect us to go off like that, but
there we go. We did. So let's take a quick
break so we can have a reset, and then when
we come back we'll dive into the top fives.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Let's go for a buddy good stuff.

Speaker 1 (35:26):
So guys, bear with us for just one moment and
we will be right back with you. Thank you for

(35:49):
bearing with us. We are back glad as our empty
bit is are full and we are ready to Steve
Spear is as full as it was when we went
on break. Mine is new complete. You fall though, juicy,
Thank you, thank you. Oh and you let you go.
You got glass of squash and go with your beer
because you are a sensible drinker. See if you need

(36:10):
to hydrate as much as you are drinking alcohol.

Speaker 2 (36:14):
Juice in the Medea glass.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Madeir or Madri.

Speaker 2 (36:21):
I always call it my deer like a quite de.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Wow, it's definitely Madrie. I don't know where Madri's from.
Is it an Italian beer?

Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah, it's going to be, I guess so Madrid.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
Do it Spanish?

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well anyway, so I'm going Spanish Spanish fosters.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
We are Spanish fosters. There it is. But anyway, we
are back. We are here to not discuss different nations fosters. Instead,
we are going to dive into the top fives and
let's start off with Moto three.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Steve, Yes, Yes, this was probably the best race at
the weekend.

Speaker 1 (37:07):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it was the best race of
the weekend. The layout of cattle and means the bikes
always remain pretty close a couple of long straights that
keeps this slipstream going. It means that no one can
really break away properly in Moto three. So while it's
not one of those really good races that it's like
a bit of a duel between maybe two three four guys,
Like it's a it's a pack fight here and that's fun. Occasionally, Look,

(37:28):
I feel like when you get too many of them
in a row, it gets a bit much. I like
variations in Moto three. I like the ones where it's
a real pack race. I like the ones a bit
like out On Park where yeah the leaders break up
and go away like a Saxon Ring is a race
like that as well, So yeah, I like the variation.
But yeah, this was the best race of the weekend.
I mean, halfway through the race the top ten was

(37:49):
still covered by less than two seconds.

Speaker 3 (37:51):
Like it was really good.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Yeah, this was a fantastic race for most of them,
like pretty much all the race, Like you could see
the two groups on the same part of track, so
it kept it close. But there was different aspects going
on in the two little groupie packs and it was
fun to watch. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Yeah, me too. I thought it was a really good one.
So the top five in it then looked like this
fifth place was Adrian Fernandez. Another solid result for the
younger Fernandez brother here.

Speaker 2 (38:24):
Yeah. Yeah, the guy's having a good run at the minute.
I really pleased for him. It looks razy he does
all the time though. He's coming out and he's improving
all the time, and he always looks like he's willing
to get stuck in.

Speaker 3 (38:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:38):
Absolutely, it's interesting. Actually this road, so I'm now looking
at it and The top two were Katie Dams, but
after that the rest of the top five were all Hondas,
and that's quite a rare thing this year in Moto three,
and the Honda was clearly a weaker machine, as we
will come to while we talk about these five. But
this seems to be quite a good weekend or a
good circuit honder at least.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
I think it's the far sort of flowing nature of
the track suits the Honda a little bit more allows
them to stretch the legs and keep that speed up.

Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah, it's not the same grunt as the KTM, so
you're probably right. The fact there's not a lot of
real heavy stops and goes like it's either flowing or
it's fast, means that as long as they can keep
a rhythm, they're not as affected because they haven't got
the acceleration that the KTM is.

Speaker 2 (39:22):
Yeah, exactly, so exactly that. I think it's just a
track that suits the Honda. Better give to them more
of an edge or a helping hand if you will.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
Yes, yeah, yeah, I think the Honda stops pretty well
as well, which is handy after the really fast straights.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, yeah, it does seem to be very stable underbreaking.

Speaker 1 (39:44):
So fourth place in this one then was a David almncer,
Adrian Fernandez's teammate. He started from pole, in fact, and
he looked like he was going to win for a
lot of the race. He was so fast through the corners,
especially in the final sector. But as we're saying, the
top end of the KTM meant that he was a
little bit of a sitting duck, although he did manage
to hold them off on the straight for quite a

(40:05):
few laps because he was so good out of the
final corner and so good into the first corner that
he managed to keep the ktms at bay. But when
they did start getting past, like they kind of gapped
him and disappeared.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Yeah, he had a fantastic race, I think, all things considered.
You know, he led for a long time, set the pole,
and but like I say, just as the race wore on,
he just couldn't quite match the ktms, which is such
a shame. But still fourth place all things considered, a
damn good result.

Speaker 1 (40:36):
Yeah, absolutely third in this one. Then, another Honda Tario
for A Sarto struggled with the same top end issue
as his Honda buddies, but just managed to get it
over the line and onto the podium. And it felt
like he was pretty quiet for most of the race,
right up until the end when he was right in
the fight for the podium and he just managed to

(40:58):
pull it out exactly when he needed to.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
Yeah, he seemed like he had one of those races
where he kind of just what its remained anonymous at
the back a little bit just keep you know, keep
your nose clean and just do your race and do
finish as high as possible. It was just right at
the end, he just had that little bit extra to
keep on the podium, what you say. But yeah, it

(41:22):
was kind of a he was in that front pack,
but it was kind of a quiet race for him,
even though he was in the leading group.

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Yeah. Where did he start in the race?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Or was he six?

Speaker 3 (41:40):
God?

Speaker 1 (41:40):
If you're right about laste were very impressed. I'm loading
up the qualifying results as we speak.

Speaker 2 (41:48):
TikTok, TikTok.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
No, he was not. Yamanaka was fifth first, started twelve twelfth.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
All things considered, then, the way hes fought from the
pack not bad and had a fantastic first few laps
because the way that pack broke up quite quickly into
two groups. He was at the front group pretty down.

Speaker 1 (42:13):
Quickly second place in this one. Then Steve Jose Antonio Rueda.
It doesn't matter what the fuck happens this year, Ruado
always manages to find himself near the front. He had
a long lap penalty in this race that dropped him
down to fifteenth, and yet he still managed to almost

(42:34):
win the race. And I tell you what, the long
lapper around Castle and your mate was really, really bloody long.

Speaker 2 (42:43):
I honestly thought the same thing watching the Motor GP
race for the guys took their long lap penalties. You
saw them, got the camera angle, saw the guys enter
the long lap penalty, and then the next shot is
then coming out and for like an age that camera
switch straight away. Are You're like, well, surely you just
got to go around that bend and out.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
No.

Speaker 1 (43:05):
Yeah, but it's not like it's a weird one, isn't it.
Because a lot of long laps they just stick it
on the outside of a corner, so you just take
the corner slightly deeper. You've got to be really accurate
obviously to keep it in the lines to get around,
so you're having to slow more. Anyway, and then you
can get a reasonable launch out and you're gonna lose
two seconds or whatever. Yeah, the long lap here, the
fact it's like sort of around the chicane, and it's

(43:25):
sort of the long lap itself is a bit of
a chicane, so it's a tough one to they were losing,
but they must have been losing three and a half
seconds or something through there.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Easy was it three seconds you're supposed to lose.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
But okay, I felt like more than usual here.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
Yeah, this did feel like a lot. It's like you say,
it's got its own kind of minise chicane in it,
so you have got to be very slow to get
through it. But this yeah, this one really did feel
like they lost more time, but it didn't really matter
to read. He just kind of brought himself back up

(44:02):
and to finish on the podium after dropping out the fifteenth. Fantastic.
This guy is just on it at the minute.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (44:11):
Yeah, it's just unbelievable right now, Like it's just it
doesn't matter what happens. And I don't know what the
gap was in the end to first, but it was close.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
Uh point three second something like that wasn't much.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Point zero zero no point zero eight one. It was
so it was eight hundredths of a second. The gap close,
really close, and that gap was to the race winner
and held percare As and this was another classic Percareras win.

(44:44):
He spent much of the race in the front group,
but didn't actually lead that many laps until the ones
that really mattered right at the end.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Yeah, this guy seems to always have a game plan
that works. He will pick his moments very very well.
He'll always be in that front group, but he always
seems to know the perfect time to pounce and make
his move to get to the front. And it's fantastic
to watch because you're always watching him like when're you
gonna go? When's he going to do it? And it

(45:16):
always he kind of teases you a few times and
then he does it and you know as soon as
he goes, that's pretty much it. He's in front and
he's gonna hold that. The guy always rides a very
very intelligent race.

Speaker 3 (45:33):
Yeah quite.

Speaker 1 (45:34):
I mean, he did have that rough patch mid season
where he just couldn't make overtakes and he just seemed
to get stuck, but he now has returned to that
kind of picareus last year, and we saw at the
very start of this year coming back to full form
and is now finally starting to close down his compatriot
in the championship, although he is still sixty four points
back so need some help if he wants to try

(45:56):
and win this title. But it is good to see
percare Us back to kind of form he had, and
I certainly I think I picked him for my Monty
three champion this year, so the form I expected him
to have all year and the form he did seem
to have over the opening few rounds.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
Yeah, it's definitely coming back. Like you said, there was
a little dip mid season. Up until this point, we'll,
like you say, he didn't really seem like he had
whatever that one percent or whatever is to just make
those overtakes. But it does certainly feel like that is
back now. And if that is the case, then yeah,

(46:30):
everyone else needs to watch out.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
Yes quite Yeah.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I mean between Ruada Pekeras and Maxi Michielez right now,
who obviously had a bit of a grim race because
he was punted out and ended up finishing.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
We've when did he finish.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
It was in that second group, was from twelfth, Yeah,
he ended up finishing twelfth. Yeah, he was right in
the front for a lot of the race. We got
punted out at one point and then just couldn't really recover.
But between Pikaras, Rader and Kielez right now, I mean
it's it's it's a tough time to try and win
a Most three race.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
It is.

Speaker 2 (47:03):
There is a lot of talented competition, if you will,
and so many guys that are capable of winning a
race every race, and it's kind of hard to pick
one at the minute, and with the close quarters racing
Amoto three, you just you can never guarantee what's going

(47:23):
to happen. Look at for much of the race, he
looked like at the start of the race, looked like
he was going to be right the front winning it
got punted, that's it, he's gone. Yeah, you can't write.

Speaker 1 (47:34):
The script for Moto three ever, No, quite. That's the
great thing about it is it's just an exciting championship exactly.

Speaker 2 (47:41):
That's exactly why we love it.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
Let's move it on then steve to Moto two. Yes, Now,
before we get into Moto two, it's worth noting here
there were a lot of coming into this race. The
students were handing out some straw wrong punishments for dawdling
on the racing line.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
That good. I think it's a good thing c File
has taken over and he's yeah, he's not afraid to
get the red card out at all.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
No, exactly. And to be fair, this is something that
he always hated when he was a pundit. He always said,
did need dueling the racing line dangerous, should not be
doing it, and we kind of expected severe punishments to
be handed out when he took over that role. And
I mean, I think Crayfile is doing an amazing job
this year.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
I think fantastic.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
We're just not hearing the criticism of the stewards that
we've heard in years gone by. Like these days, it's
very rare. You'll hear the punishment. You might hear a
rider have a bit of a whine about the punishment,
but then that's pretty much it. It's not like it
used to be under Freddie Spencer where we're hearing it
all the time. I think Crayfile is doing an amazing job.
And I think that the fact he's stuck by his

(48:53):
guns for these kind of punishments only goes to reinforce.
To me, and probably most import reinforced all of the riders,
not probably most importantly definitely that he ain't fucking about
and he is his to do a good job and
everyone seems to respect him still for it at the moment,
which is really cool.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yeah. Yeah, he's doing exactly what he said he would
and everyone's got a respect for that. He's not gone, Yep,
I'm going to go in there to this role and
I'm going to make loads of changes and I'm going.

Speaker 3 (49:22):
To do it.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And then he gets there and goes, oh, no, one
who's scared to do it. He's come out all guns blazing,
done exactly what he said he would set a president
from the first race when he was dishing out penalties,
and everyone's taken note, and that's perfect exactly, you know,
like like you said, he did say most of the
time he hated the door in our racing lines. And

(49:43):
everyone who has has got their just dessert. So yeah,
I think he's doing a fantastic job. We don't see
the kind of incidents before where you know, we used
to be very critical of the stewards with like head injuries,
delay where it should have been red flagged.

Speaker 1 (50:01):
All the that's not the steward's job though. That's the
race direction, That's that's true.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, res direction, but anything critical to the stewards that
all the criticisms we were hearing before have all gone.
We just haven't heard them this year. So it says
a lot.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's a pretty fantastic thing. He was
clearly a very good guy for that role. So well done.
Whoever decided to promote him to that or give to
offer him that job. Yes, So anyway, the punishments that
were handed out in this race, Albert Raina Stabbing Alonso,
Darren Binder, Tony Arbolino and Barry Baltas all got nine
place grid penalties for the race. A nine place grid drop?

(50:42):
What a penalty?

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Like, Oh, that's fantastically I like, I love that. I
think that's fantastic. You know, you get a three place
grid penalty, you're like, oh god, but you're already really
a row back.

Speaker 1 (50:55):
Yeah, you're what something like twelve meters further back and
you would have been. And I know that's a huge
The difference probably between six and ninth going into that
first corner is massive, But the difference between sixth and
fucking fifteenth going into the first corner is something else.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, especially in motto two, because yeah, a lot of
people could blast past you. So yeah, I'm happy about this.
I just sort of looked at it when I saw her.
Oh that's a proper punishment. I bet everyone was sat
there like, oh, three place, give preunishment and you get
the email come through.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Someone got out of the wrong side of this morning.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
Jesus fucking cray Fis either had too much or not
enough coffee. I'm not sure which it was.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah. Yeah, here he's quit smoking. He's in a rage.

Speaker 1 (51:47):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:51):
That exactly that.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
So of those guys that got punishments, Alonzo did finish
best in the righth In the race he finished eighth
was tenth, Raina sixteenth I believe, No twentieth, and Binder
twenty first. So it clearly affected their races. Yeah, and
rightfully so, yeah, quite rightfully. So the top five though

(52:15):
in this race, Steve, none of them had grid place penalties, thankfully,
so they did look like this. Fifth place was Izangovara,
a really solid fifth place. Usan here I find him
quite annoying that he's quite capable of putting on displays
like this some weeks and his other weeks is nowhere
to be seen, especially after his domination in the twenty

(52:38):
twenty two TOO World Championship.

Speaker 2 (52:45):
Yeah, I would have say twenty two, right, I think,
so we'll go with twenty.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Twelvey won it on the year after Pedro so Acosta
would have won it in twenty one, then went up
to moted to two seasons, is now in his second
season of mojipes. So the twenty twenty two World Championship
is what he's in. Gavara won in MOTI three and
he looked so good that year, but that has just
never come to fruition Moto two and he's had a
couple of he's had the old podium, he had a

(53:10):
bunch of top fives, but just so inconsistent. He's such
a frustrating rider, he really is.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
Yeah, we know he's more than capable, he's just not
capable of doing it all the time. And yeah, he's
the kind of guy you want to bet on, but
you're too scared to be. You just don't know what
the hell he's going to do from one rounds of
the next.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
And it's Maverick Vinaldes Vibes.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Yeah, yeah, You're right, it really is, It really is.
He's a very talented, frustrating rider.

Speaker 1 (53:41):
Yes, absolutely, but a fifth place in this race was
a good result and he was pretty racy. He wasn't
backing down easy through this one, which was fine, not
at all.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yes, yeah, he's a very talented rider.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yeah, fourth place then Steve at Catalunia was Manoel Gonzalez
and considering he wasn't on the podium, this was such
a good race weekend for Manny's title aspirations. He opened
up a gap to both his title rivals. Cannet crashed
out of the race, Morera finished fourteenth. Gonzales now has
a thirty eight point lead over Cannet and is forty

(54:16):
two points ahead of Marrera. Like he's he's got a
finger on the trophy if nothing else right now.

Speaker 2 (54:22):
Yeah, Yeah, it feels like he's locking his sights on it. It. Yeah,
it feels like a very intelligent ride. He could have
pressed on from fourth to try and get on the podium.
Doesn't need to.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
Actually, I'm not convinced he could have done. I don't
think he had the base of the three guys in
front of him anyway. But no, I don't think he's
opened up a gap.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
So that's the d thing.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
I don't think he did. But sometimes these guys, when
they get a sniff or a look that right, there's
third up there, let's go for it, and sometimes that
Russia blood. Next thing, you know, you you're in the gravel.

Speaker 1 (54:52):
You know.

Speaker 2 (54:52):
Yeah, it didn't risk it, just took the was it
sixteen points?

Speaker 3 (54:59):
No? No? Ten points?

Speaker 2 (55:00):
Yeah, thirteen points for fourth, Very very intelligent. He would
have known Canet was out, known his other rival was
down in fourteenth. It's a bit bored, doesn't need to
risk anything. He's opening up again.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Perfect yeah, quite, And to be fair, it didn't matter
as long as Marera and Cant were behind him. Even
if it's one position, then happy days. That's that's all
the masters.

Speaker 3 (55:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:23):
The fact that he was like down in fourteenth, ten
places behind him, perfect yeah quite. Yeah, can't really ask
for what, well, maybe sixteenth and just scored no points.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
But yeah, exactly, well, I mean, and that's what Canet
managed to do.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
So yeah, do you see the Canet crash?

Speaker 1 (55:38):
My god, mate, when can It crashes? Can it fucking crashes?
And can it's the kind of guy who he does
seem to get hurt quite a lot, but not in
the same kind of Danny Pedroza incapable of riding because
he's got glass bones kind of hurt. I feel like,
can it just rides injured all the time. He's always injured.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Yeah, he feels like he's always carrying some kind of injury.
And like you say, when he does crash, my bloody god,
does he crash? That was quite a proper one. And
I saw it happening. I was like, oh my god, Yeah,
there goes the rest of your season, buddy. I don't
know what the outcome.

Speaker 1 (56:18):
So this weekend that crashed and had the visor ripped
off by the wheel of a bike, was that Moto two?
Oh god, it was a really scary crash. I can't
I think it was in Moto I can't remember who
it was.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
No, I can't picture seeing it, but I just cannot
remember who it was.

Speaker 1 (56:38):
It's Salach.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Is that how Salach crashed out? No, it's joke, Jake Dixon.
It was Salach. Yeah, he came together with.

Speaker 1 (56:51):
Navarro.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Yeah yeah, in that crash, and yeah, kind of got
bucked off and head by the.

Speaker 1 (56:59):
Then wheel of Navarro's bike, wasn't it? And it just
ripped his visor off, and as one of those you're like,
oh shit. It's like whenever you see like a helmet
hit a spinning wheel, you're like.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Oh no, oh god.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
But obviously the race continued, so he went to the
medical center and was oh, that's it. It popped up on
the screen. Didn't it go into medical center rider conscious
or something. So that's probably best case scenario considering the
crash itself and what could have been.

Speaker 2 (57:25):
Yeah, exactly. He was just down there with the Perelli
technician just peeling the rubber off his face. Yeah, that
looks scary. But every now and again, like Canet crashes
massively and we see these kind of crashes that scare
the hell out of you.

Speaker 1 (57:43):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (57:44):
Yeah, and there's b bitple around them. In nineteen fifties
bike not gonna happen, thank you. Fuck. There's a reason
why we ride old slow bikes.

Speaker 3 (57:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Well the reason for that is Steve that they can't stop.
That's why they have to be slow.

Speaker 2 (57:56):
Well, this is true.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
There's only only stopping power in your feet down.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Yeah as well, I've got bull shoes.

Speaker 1 (58:07):
Let's bring it back then. Third place in this one Steve.
Oh my god, Danny Munyof, where the fuck did this
come from?

Speaker 2 (58:18):
Like, wow, in.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
There's a replacement for Dennis on Chu who broke his leg.
I think at the weekend he broke his leg and
Munyof was able to come in. And this is just
his sixth substitution ride of the season. So he's been
in a few times this year as kind of this
super sub but at the sixth time of asking, he
goes and puts it on the fucking podium.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Yeah, god knows, let's just pull something out of the
bag that it's just clicked. And I was watching, I
was like, surely, no, he's going to start dropping back soon.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
His trash is tire. He's going to do six laps
and then he's just going to disappear and be the
outskirts of the points. Was my assumption.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah, that's what I thought. I thought. You know. I
saw him and get to the like the near the front.
I was like, yeah, this doesn't feel like it's going
to last, or doesn't have that looked like it's gonna last.
I'm like, hang on, there's only a few laps to go.
He's still there. I was like, well, he might just
do this. He's done it. Yeah, God knows, mate, absolutely,

(59:21):
God knows. Like you say, super sub is just amazing.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
Yeah, quite so.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
Reportedly he's already got a full time ride for next year,
I think with Grassini, And it's hard to say that
isn't thoroughly deserved. As we said, like it looked like
he was gonna cook his tires. He was going a
second a second a lap faster than everyone, and he
did cook his tires a little bit and in the
end had to settle for a third after a bit

(59:49):
of a battle with Dixon. But what a fucking result, mate,
Like it's it's for his career and just the spectacle
of watching it. It's just hard to overstate, like how
good of a race this was from Danny Munyof. The
only annoying thing here is we've now got another Danny
and another Munof and that's getting very confusing.

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
Now, it is starting to get very very confusing. We're
gonna need nicknames.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
Yeah, what we're going to call this one. We can
have maniacal Munyoth for David manyof and hmmm, I don't know, Danny,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
We'll sought for it. We'll have a look, we'll have
a comflap. But yeah, it's starting to get very very
very confusing. I like the but you put in the
show notes. It was very strange seeing plain helmet, plain leathers.
It felt very much like you just dragged a club
racer in, you know, someone turned up at the weekend,

(01:00:54):
just like you arrive what rs tea leathers straight out
the shop and a brand new shot of the helmet
is like you go, you know up here?

Speaker 1 (01:01:05):
So well, the thing with the leathers, it wasn't quite
so obvious because he did have like the KTM branded
leathers on, but he didn't have all of the extras
on them, so there was loads of empty space and
a completely black helmet. Like wow, like, especially considering his result,
there are a few companies out there that missed out

(01:01:26):
on some really cheap real estate this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:01:28):
Yeah, I wonder how many people they approached. And it
was like, look, do you want to know he's not
going to do anything if you want to give him
a sponsorship, money or a bit of help, and we'll
pass on that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
He's in European Moto teams full time and obviously his
European Motor two sponsors didn't want to come and sponsor
for the world stage, but fuck it, well mate, unless
that's a local mum and pop bakery in Spain, like
they've they've missed out a trick here.

Speaker 2 (01:01:53):
Yeah. Yeah, Collins the Cabs is just really the only
one who took him up on his sponsorship offer and
gave him a tenor it's just weird clubs in.

Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:04):
It's one of my favorite things about National Racing Series
is weird little sponsors, and especially stuff like NASCAR, and
I think IndyCar is guilty of this too, where they
completely change liveries at weekend to weekend depending on what
the sponsors are. And sometimes it will be like the
local DIY store is just sponsoring a car, like it's

(01:02:25):
just and they're like maybe they've got three stores in
the city or something, so it's a tiny chain and
you know, they can't afford to be sponsoring a fucking team,
but they just do it anyway for the love of
it and just get all of this national and international
publicity for literally no reason.

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Yeah suddenly sponsored by Hank's Hardware.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
Yeah, exactly, that kind of weird stuff, and so I
love that about National Racing Series. And I feel like
Danny Munnoff's Colin's cabs or what would be Spanish for
Colin an equivalent name, now Colin equivalent in Spanish?

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Does it translate to Spanish Colin Colleen?

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
H yeah, we'll be Yeah, it's it's Colleen. That's boring.
Oh and it literally translates to breadstick or cracker.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
We're just calling cracker.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Yeah, then we we call him Cracker. Oh, oh excellent.
So yeah, an amazing weekend for Cracker. There. I can't
just he pulled that one off. Just an absolute blinder,
and it's going to be fun next year because this
is a silly result for him. What of the rest
of his results this year, Like he's scored points in races,

(01:03:41):
but he's not one this he said low.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
Point scoring results have They all been at the sort
of bottom of the chart. But this is just something else.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah, or this result was jumped him right up in
the championships the point I can't actually find him. Oh
there he is. Oh, look at that. He's got red
link on Wikipedia. So he's not even got his own
Wikipedia page he has had up until this race, he'd
scored three points.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
Bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Yeah, and now he's got and scored an extra No,
I don't think that maths is right. How much you
have a third? Sixteen points?

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
Yeah, so you should have nineteen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:22):
So Wikipedia has got him listed as sixteen points right now,
so that's wrong. But yeah, now he's had two twenty
one or twenty first place finishes on the Forward bike
to be fair, and then he'd had a fifteenth on
a Red Bull KTM bike, a fourteenth on a red
Bull KTM bike, a twentieth and now a thirty, a

(01:04:42):
third and the fastest lap, Like it's just amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
We're talking about turning the tap on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Quite, I don't know whatever happens, what a fantastic ride
for him. Yeah, I don't know. I'd be male to
that trophy with some such pride.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Yeah, quite, I tell you what. Speaking of trophies, actually,
they were some beautiful trophies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Incredible. Yeah. Every shot of the trophies I saw this weekend,
I was like, oh my god, they look fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:05:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:18):
I don't know what they were or why they were
the way they were, but they were just really cool
looking trophies. And I like these ones a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
Yeah, yes, yeah, they were very very nice.

Speaker 1 (01:05:31):
Speaking of trophies, then Steve second place for the moto
to here Jake Dixon form. Dixon looked for much of
the race like he was going to be third, but
after Munnot's tires started to drop off, Dixon was able
to get back through for a safe second place. And
really nice to see him back on the podium and
back on the sharp end of things.

Speaker 2 (01:05:52):
Yeah, it feels like it is where he should be,
somewhere in the top five. What is he now fifth
in the championship after his ups and downs and very
rocky mid season.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
Yeah, exactly, and he's only a point or fourth, like
finish the top four this year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah, yeah, really good. But after that's such good start
of the season.

Speaker 1 (01:06:21):
Yeah, leading the championship after three rounds or whatever, and
it was like it was like could he No, he's
the answer, he can't. But he's really turned into a
really good motive rider. Jay Dickson. I'm gonna be quite
sad when he funks off the super bikes next year.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
Yeah. Is it confirmed yet? I can't remember.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
No, it's not confirmed, but it's one of those most
like Morera to Elsie R, like everyone sort of knows
it's gonna happen, and we don't really know why it's
not been announced. I imagine Dixon will be announced in
Japan in like two rounds time. Yeah, maybe it's the
same with Morera.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Yeah, Hondra isn't it links to Honda? Yeah? Wonderworld. I
don't get me wrong. I think he'll do great things
if he does go over there.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
But what hell, mate, He's not going to do great
things on the hondering world tuper bikes like this. He's
not doing great things over there, but he's gonna make
shitload of money and that's the important thing right now
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:15):
I think, Yeah, I just had to know. He's a
British lad and I like for a lot of faith
in him and hyping him up as we Brits do.

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Yeah, I wonder how much how much do Moto to
riders make?

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
I do know, I never really thought more than me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Very significantly. A realistic salary for a good rider is
not often between seventy five and one hundred and fifty
k annually. Okay, top riders can get up towards half
a million with bonuses. How much does a factory superbike rider.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I would imagine this varies widely.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
Yeah, a factory World super Bike ride between half a
million and a million per season, but BMW are paying
way more than that. I think top Rack is on
just over two million. Okay, but that's base salaries, so
there'll be bonuses and stuff talking super bikes this year.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
Fair enough, fair enough. Well, whatever happens. If he goes, wow,
he is going, so yeah, it'll be sad to go.
But we can still see him. It'll still be racing,
that's the main thing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:36):
Yeah, exactly, exactly, So we can still watch him if
we want. We just have to watchwards bikes and more,
which I every year plan to do and every year
just watch the highlights. And I do watch the highlights,
but that's about it. I never really commit. I think
it's hard, man. Three races a weekend for superbikes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
It is hard. There's a lot going on, Like this
weekend's gone. We had Catalonia, we had supervis well the bikes,
the BSB was on and when you sit down and
tray and watch it all, that's a lot of time
to commit. Yeah, so I have to sit down and
watch the GP and then through the rest of the

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week it's catch up with Well, superbots is BSB, you
just can't watch it all. There's not enough ours on
a Sunday, so it's a shame. It is a shame
that all racing isn't spread out for different weekends. But
then we'd run out of time, so there's always gonna
be clashes.

Speaker 1 (01:09:31):
Yeah, exactly winning this one. Then Steve Moto to at Catalina.
The winner was Danny Olgado. Wow, just amazing. Olgado is there,
just like, wait, my teammate one last time out, shit
my beer and then just goes and absolutely crushes the field.

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He was so good this weekend and it never looked
in doubt that he was going to win. The two
point five second gap over the line at the end
of the race doesn't do justice to how much better
Olgado was than everyone else this weekend. Just a great
job and fuck me, it's all coming up ASPA right now.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
It is at the minute. This was one of those
wins which will stay with him forever. One of those
people will will remember him for you don't often see
a two and a half second gap in Moto three
and everything two but yeah, moo, sorry, yes, what did

(01:10:34):
I say?

Speaker 1 (01:10:34):
Moto three, especially not this year either, like it's been
pretty close racing this year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:39):
Yeah, yes, I know it is all just coming up
as far at the minute, and everything that he does
he did during this race just looked absolutely perfect. It
never looks in doubt. There was never any times were
always run deep, he's cooked his tires. It all looked
precision perfect.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Mm hmm yeah, really really good mate.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Honestly, next year aspar are just across mostly through Moto two,
are gonna be unstoppable with kids next year in Moto three,
and both old Gado and Alonso next year in Moto two.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Aspa win both series
like and we genuinely when's the last time we saw

(01:11:26):
an inter team title battle in Moto two?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
It was Randy Gardner around and I've just answered my
own question.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
You beat me to it. Yeah, but it really does
feel like next year Asparak dominate most two. It really does.
The future is Rosie for most of it's mostly three
and Moto two. Their lineups are great, the teams are great,
the bikes seem great. We can only hope that these fortunes.

(01:11:57):
You know, sometimes we see a shift in favor. We
get when you say these things, right, next year, it's
be fantastic. Next year rolls round and it's just nothing
that we think it's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:12:07):
That's the joy of sport, though, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Yeah, exactly. So all we could hope is that this
fortune favors over to next year and they really do
crush at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
Yeah, but just amazing. Like we've spoken before, like if
you managed to win a race in Moto two in
your rookie year, or you know, snap a few podiums,
like you are set and you're looking really good for
the rest of your career. Both of the rookies in
ASPA have done that. Now this year they've both had podiums.
They've both won races, Like it's ah man, those two

(01:12:38):
guys a Lonzo and Lgado, Like I just I cannot
get over right now, the future talent coming through the
lower series is so so deep, Like everyone they the
top guys are really fucking sacked right now. It doesn't
feel like and I think I've said this before, it
doesn't feel like this like it has done in the
years gone by, where you're like, what's going on and

(01:13:00):
Stallaport has managed to win after six years in the
series or whatever, like he's managed to finally pull a
win out. Okay, great, Like that's not how motos refiels
right now, a Moto two where you're like, who's who?
Would that be an example of someone that's just done
it after Alex Markerez, I suppose, but then well he's
fucking doing emojib right now. Who manages to pull it

(01:13:21):
off after years? Like it feels like the classes are
stacked right now and there's a lot of time. There's
no doubt the guys that are winning races absolutely are
some of the best in the world right now.

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
Yeah, yeah, I completely agree with you. The ones at
the top really out at the top for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:13:39):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh right, then, Steve. That brings us
to the end of Moto two. So let us take
a quick break and then we will dive back in
to talk Moto GP.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Let's go for it, buddy, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
So guys, bear with us for just one moment and
we will be right back with you.

Speaker 2 (01:14:15):
It looks fucking happening. The bringpool's down there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
Is Oh, there we go, and as Steve Bull tells
all the ladies, that's never happened before.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
It's not literally not but there's the first of everything.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
There we go. Look, this is my third beer of
the night, Steve, I want a mad one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
He's going to be tripping by the end of it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
It's not that kind of beer. I'm not gonna be
seeing pink elephants flying around or anything. But you know,
maybe that would be more exciting.

Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
That might be. This is one of those canter when
the ringpool was like welded to the top of the
cair I was like movie bastard.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
Whereas I've just got mine out of the fridge, Steve,
I'm on American fosters.

Speaker 2 (01:14:59):
Now that's the cause I'm still the old This is
little enjoying this.

Speaker 1 (01:15:06):
And look at that, Steve. You know it's good because
the mountain's gone blue.

Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Oh yeah, I've got condensation on the outside of the world.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
It's lovely nice. There we go, fresh beers then, Steve,
and I think I missed it, and the usual.

Speaker 2 (01:15:21):
But ladders are empty.

Speaker 1 (01:15:22):
Beers are full, and we are ready to dive into
the top fives in Moto GP.

Speaker 2 (01:15:28):
You did. I think that was my fault because you
were sitting there in bated anticipation of my ring pool going.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Off Absolutely as per usual, Steve I'm just sitting here
waiting for you to go off. That's just what happens.
We're all friends here. It's okay. It was a game
of soggy biscuit between friends.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Jesus, that's extreme.

Speaker 1 (01:15:55):
Welcome to being fourteen in the UK.

Speaker 2 (01:16:00):
God flashbacks.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
Yeah, we don't need to talk about that, mate. Do
we think that's I think anywhere else?

Speaker 2 (01:16:10):
Is that just a UK thing? I'm not sure. If
I want to find out.

Speaker 1 (01:16:15):
I'm not going to google it, but I suggest if
you don't know what it is, google it maybe safe
search on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
I was gonna say, maybe go through duc dout.

Speaker 1 (01:16:28):
Oh my god, ridyo, excellent. I don't know how we
got there, Steve, Let's let's talk Moto GP, shall we?

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
Thank God? Yes? Please?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
So, as I said at the top, these weren't great
races for Castle. Yeah, they left a lot to be desired.
Although fun stuff did happen.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
Yes, yes, it really did. There was a lot of
factors to be considered this race. It could affect like
especially like with Marcus potentially being able to wrap up
there the championship next round, so there was a lot
of things to keep your eye on. The on track
action wasn't that great, but there was a lot of

(01:17:12):
things to keep you enthralled for the.

Speaker 1 (01:17:15):
Future, exactly exactly, So let's go for the top fives
in the sprint to their name.

Speaker 2 (01:17:23):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
Good stuff. So fifth place in this one, then Steve
was one Inaya, Bastian Nini well well well, and Maya
appears to be getting to grips with this KTM now.
And to me, this all seems to have happened after Bruno,
where he said that being a track he had never

(01:17:46):
ridden toda catti around gave him an opportunity to truly
learn the KTM and kind of strip away his bad
dukatti habits, which weren't bad habits because he was on
the best bike on the grid and they were allowing
to win races, but they were habits that don't translate
to the KTM. And since then I cannot believe how
stark the difference has been since he said those words,

(01:18:09):
which were to the effect of that riding around the
track I've never in a decattie around means I've now
learned the KTM. Like it's been so cool to see
the difference.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Yeah, yeah, I think sometimes And they had good results
on the Jacatian and clearly liked it. But I think
sometimes looking at some of these riders, it's very easy
for them to move manufacturer and try and ride that
bike in the same way you did your old one,
especially when it was the best bike on the grid

(01:18:40):
and you had good results on it. You've come on
to a different machine. And he had a horror time
at the start of the year, and that blank canvas
allowed him to really go out and just experience the
KTM for everything that it is, and that really does
seem to have opened the door for him and the
guy since then has been a different He's still together.

Speaker 1 (01:19:02):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, and it's just been incredible. And to
illustrate your point there, jumping from manufacturers, like, let's not
forget Mark Marquez didn't jump on the GP twenty three
and all of a sudden was winning race. It's like
it took him a while to get to grips with
the GP twenty three and let's face it, and they
have Ascniini isn't fucking Mark Marquez Like, so there's no

(01:19:24):
there's no planet in which an Abasuni jumps off the
best bike on the grid onto maybe the third best bike,
sometimes the second best, but probably the third best across
the season so far, and Can and Can all of
a sudden do amazing on it. Like it there's some adaptation,
but to me, it seems like Bruneau changed everything and

(01:19:46):
since then US has been unbelievable.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
Yeah he really is. This is that we are kind
of used to see.

Speaker 1 (01:19:53):
It feels like yeah back, yeah, yeah, it really does.
Fourth place then this one was Pedro a cost star.
So the ktms were all working well this weekend and
as expected, Pedro proved to be the class of the field,
at least.

Speaker 3 (01:20:09):
In the sprint.

Speaker 2 (01:20:10):
Yes it was.

Speaker 1 (01:20:12):
There was a really cool moment where we got to
see three ktms really close to each other. Man they
were they must have been within a couple of tenths
of each other and just battling between the three of them,
like it was the kind of the Moto three vibes
and years gone by where the Tech three bikes were
really battling with the Achio bikes. It kind of had
that feeling about it, and it was just super cool.

(01:20:34):
They bowed it out for a lot of the sprint,
riding really close, swapping positions, fighting really well, and you know,
that it was good because they were all on the
same machine. Arguably Basslane on the worst of the machines
because he's not on the factory bike and he hasn't
had all of the updates. But they're essentially on the
same machine, so it's not like anyone even had a
machine a real machine advantage. It was just all where

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they were fast around the track and it was just
super super cool.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
Yeah, it really was. There was a nice moment on
the GNT Sport commentary with the guys was saying, Hey,
they're all on, like you say, similar machines, but three
completely different riding styles, and you've got to see it perfectly,
especially like you say, there are only a few tenths
apart coming into some of the corners, and it really
highlighted the different riding styles. It was really good to see.

(01:21:24):
It's not often in BOTHO GP you get to see
two factory bikes battling it out with the satellite bike,
if you will. It was really pretty good. I enjoyed
that a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
I think also what made it even cooler was because
you do we have in years gone by occasionally seeing
a satellite machine battling with the factory bikes, and there'll
be three of them in total. I mean, I guess
the fact my team won a title on a satellitey
CASTI shows that that can happen and does happen. But
the fact these are all almost identical in liveries, which

(01:21:56):
I still hate. I'm just going to point out there.
I still hate how hard they are to distinguished.

Speaker 2 (01:22:00):
They are very hard to dell apart.

Speaker 1 (01:22:02):
But it did look pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (01:22:04):
It did look very very cool. The KTM is still
one of the better looking bikes on the grid to
be and it was just nice to finally really see
them getting loads of camera time all together and yeah,
what a weekend for KTM, you know, and text re
announcing the takeover. It's all coming up KTM at the minute.

Speaker 3 (01:22:26):
Yeah quite.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Third place then in this one, Steve was one Fabio
Digi and Antonio another podium for the GP twenty five
ride at and although he wasn't really bothering the top
two or the top three until Alex spind it, he
still did well to outperform everyone else on the grid
and on a race where Peckerbagny are on the other

(01:22:48):
GP twenty five, I don't even know where the fuck
he finished actually off.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
Up quickly in the sprint. Was he twelve?

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
I was just hoping Pedia would tell me, but Pedia
only tells me if he scored points. We're just going
to show you how bad it was.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah, Fabio had a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
Yeah, Fabio had a great weekend. Back nine, finished fourteenth
and was close.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Yeah, definitely turning the order. So all things considered, G
James only had a great weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
You know, the cracking mate, Yeah, at least the cracking sprint.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Yes, that's very true. Nice to see him up there again.
Nice for VR forty six to have a go on
the podium again. Yeah, so long may it continue. Hopefully
we'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
We will see second place in this one then, Steve
Fabio Quatao, just the French Fabio doing his thing, dragon
his yamahata places. It does not deserve to be and
he was only one point two seconds off the win
after qualifying second. Realistically this probably should have been a
third place, but even so, a great result, and he

(01:24:05):
dished out some really great racing in the opening laps
against mart Marquez, against Pedro Costa, like he really fought
these guys to get this second place. And yeah it's
realistically it should have been a third place, but Alex
Marquez didn't finish, so that's fucking irrelevant. And this was
just a really really solid result. Fabio once again just

(01:24:26):
doing amazing things.

Speaker 2 (01:24:27):
Yeah, this guy does things for that Yamaha he really
shouldn't be doing and just goes to show his talent
and class. This was one of those Rise three that
just highlights how good he is and how much he
needs a better machine under him, and Yamaha should be
bless he thankful they've got him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:47):
They really should, mate, They've got to show him something
with this VFA. Because I've said it before, I would
love to see Guateraro on the same biker as mart
Marquez to see what could possibly happen between the two
of them if they were on equal machinery, because it
would just Fabo to me is by far and away

(01:25:10):
the second best rider on the grid right now, like,
and it's he's way way further away from the third
best rider than he is from the first best. Like.
I don't think there's much between him and Mark right now,
I really don't. I think Fabio is just incredible.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
Yeah, I think that's completely fair. Although a ways off
in positions. What he does with the machinery he's got
is just incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
To me.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
He looks like he's riding his first car, you know,
that crappy first car you've had, where suddenly you take
it over one hundred and things falling apart, and you're
doing things with it that you shouldn't be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:49):
Only ever on private land and on roads.

Speaker 2 (01:25:53):
Yes, where you're not completely allowed to not illegally, of course,
not forty seven or anything.

Speaker 1 (01:25:59):
No, never above on their forty seven. Never about fifteen
nine miles an hour.

Speaker 2 (01:26:03):
No exactly. We're doing very things, very within the law here.
But he just shouldn't be there on that machine, not rightfully.
So it just goes to highlight his talent.

Speaker 3 (01:26:16):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
And I tell you what, mate, when he retires and
we come to the end of his career, even if
he goes on and wins another couple of championships, which
I think he is well capable of doing, I think
we're going to look back at his career that he
wasted a lot of time on a ship bike and
didn't get the titles he deserves. I think probably he
a man like if he was on the best machine

(01:26:39):
peckerbag and I wouldn't have any titles, and Fabricotta would
have wrapped all of those up. He'd have done three
on the bounce. He may have beaten Martine to a
fourth like he would be we'd be talking about a
WHOLEE Lorenzo level talent here.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Yeah, one hundred percent. If that machine was better, he'd
be a continuous threat, a fly the ointment all the time.
And yeah, immediately he's perfectly capable of mixing it with
the guys at the top. Just needs you have a
hard to get this V four dialed in quickly, very quickly.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
Yeah, quite, And there I called him Joey Lorenzo talent,
and then I started to back down on myself, and
then no, I'm backing that again because I don't think
I Fabricato is a Mark Marquez or a Valantineo ROSSI like,
it's very hard to.

Speaker 3 (01:27:29):
Be that guy.

Speaker 2 (01:27:31):
But yeah, yeah, I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:27:32):
It's also very hard to be while Lorenzo. To be fair,
like Hoyle, Lorenzo was an absolute beast as well, So
maybe it's not as insulting as I was telling myself
in my mind that it was there that was just
a weird beer induced anxiety thing kicking off winning this race.

(01:27:53):
Then Steve at the top there one Mark Marquez and
for once Mark was the guy Inherit wins because your
favorites crashed out. Yes, Alex Marquez crashed out near the
end of the sprint. That bumped Mark up to the
top spot and adds another sprint win to his tally
this year. He's only failed to win a single sprint

(01:28:15):
race this year's You know, even if Alex Marquez had
managed to win this one, which he should have done,
it still means a Marquees It's not a Dot Marquez,
but a Marquez brother has won every single sprint regardless. Like,
it's just madness. What's happening right now?

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
Yeah, when you look at that stet and you think that,
and you look at the domination of these two riders
this year, it's just insane, absolute insane. Yeah, that family
at the minute, when especially when it comes to sprints,
is just dominating everything this year.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
Mate.

Speaker 1 (01:28:54):
We thought multiple times actually throughout their careers, twenty fourteen
we probably assumed that was the best year this family
were going to have, with one of them winning the
MOJIP World Championship, one winning Moto three twenty nineteen were
one one dominated and crushed Moto GP and the other
one Themotor two Championship. This is now quickly becoming the

(01:29:15):
Marquez family's best year. Like, it's just unbelievable what these
two guys are. It's still such a shame for Alex
Marquez that his brother is Mark Marqutz regardless, Like, just
amazing what these two are doing and acts. This weekend
was clearly the fastest ridea It was only a slight
loss of concentration on a single lap that fucked him

(01:29:39):
from doing the double this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:29:41):
Yeah, yes, just that one little mistake just robbed him
at the double. So yeah, hard luck. But that's racing.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
That's racing, mate, that's racing. And you know it can't
be easy just to spend an entire race with like
plus one Mark markets plus one ninety three behind you, Like, oh.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Fuck, even if he is your brother, you just sa
for God's sake, After a while, you gotta started the sweat.

Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Yeah quite at least though I guess in that instance
Alex isn't glancing across at Mark's pitboard and seeing plus
one Alex, like, at least this time he's the one ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Yeah, Yes, there's things to be even if he has
crashed out, there's things to be taken away from this
sprit race for Alex that he could be very very
proud of.

Speaker 3 (01:30:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:30:25):
Quite, Let's move it on to the Grand Prix then,
Steve so the Grand Prix was arguably less exciting than
the Sprint. The Sprint had some excitement. The Grand Prix
had some excitement, but it wasn't It wasn't great. I
managed to stay awake through it, so, you know, it
could have could have been worse.

Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
It became very processional, didn't it. It's settled very quickly,
and we kind of knew from the off what we
were going to get.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
Yeah, there were some fun battles, but generally, yes, the
top five were pretty much settled within you know, the
first ten.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Labs, I was going to say, Yeah, the first four
laps pretty damn good. After that, the next half a
dozen years good, and then it became very obvious what
we're going to have.

Speaker 1 (01:31:18):
Yes, yeah, but it was still good to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
The entire time I was watching, it was like, oh God,
is it going to have been it again? What we're
going to have here?

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Even on the last lap, I was thinking that might like,
just it didn't. It gave me the you know, Ma
Marquez vibes of earlier this year, but also in years
gone by, where you were like, oh god, it could
still go wrong at any moment.

Speaker 2 (01:31:37):
Yeah, exactly exactly. It just had that era of anticipation
about it. Something's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
Yeah, quite so, then, Steve, the top five in this
one looked like this. Fifth place was one Fabio Quattraro.
Backing up his qualifying and sprint podium. Fabio had some
really good pace across the whole weekend, and a fifth
place in the GP is well well deserved. He was

(01:32:07):
by far and away the best yamahart all weekend to
be fair as to be expected, but Miguel Olivera, after
finally learning that he will not be riding for that
team next year, had maybe his best weekend compared to
the other yamhas t. In the Grand Prix, he was
only two point five seconds off Fabio and that was
worth four positions unfortunately, but he was eight seconds ahead

(01:32:29):
of his teammate Jack Miller, who finished down in fifteenth.

Speaker 2 (01:32:32):
Yeah. I don't know what what it is. It was fourteenth, Yeah, yes,
it was fourteenth, wasn't it. I don't know what is
with somebody's riders. Sometimes when they get like contract confirmations,
even if it means you're out of a ride, they
just start performing. Look at Digian Antonio when he was
fighting for his ride and his future was uncertain, suddenly

(01:32:56):
went on a tear See.

Speaker 1 (01:32:59):
I think these are two very different scenarios. Fabio was
literally fighting for his ride and thrived off that pressure,
or appeared to thrive off that pressure. Whereas Miguel has
lost the ride. Now it's done, it's game over. The
pressure has completely disappeared, and now he seems to be
getting his best results. I'm curure to see what happens
in the next few rounds like this might maybe he's

(01:33:21):
just he's one Catalonia before, so maybe it's just a
circuit that he works very well at. But maybe not.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
We'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:33:28):
Yeah, either way, Yeah, Miguel had a great weekend. Fabio
had a good, great weekend. Yeah, my house have something
to be thankful for. This weekend wasn't all doomergloom?

Speaker 3 (01:33:40):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:33:44):
Fourth place then was Pedro Acosta and he looked racy
again in the Grand Prix, but he did a weird
thing and opted for the soft tire for some reason.
Everyone else was on the medium.

Speaker 2 (01:33:57):
Yeah, it feels like one of those gambles where you'd
like he probably sat there at some point there was
just like starting, I'm going to go for it. I'm
going to give it a whirl.

Speaker 1 (01:34:07):
I think that's exactly the.

Speaker 2 (01:34:08):
Right kind of decisions that no one else can make
sense of.

Speaker 1 (01:34:14):
No, And it's one of these things, isn't it. Like
I imagine he looked at the guys ahead and went, well,
I can't beat them unless I take a big gamble
here and the gamble pays off, and then maybe I
can beat the du Catties, but otherwise there's no chance.
And there's some logic to that, And I mean, it's
a weird thing, these these kind of off tire choices,
because we've seen it happen a few times. Well, actually

(01:34:36):
we see it happen a lot, but we never remember
when it goes wrong, and this is an example of
it going wrong. But we always remember when it goes right.
We remember when Caw Crutchlow rode the hard tire in
Philip Island to take a race win in twenty sixteen,
twenty sixteen. Did he win Philip Island in twenty sixteen

(01:34:56):
or I.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
Made all of that up.

Speaker 1 (01:34:57):
I think that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:34:58):
I think that's the right. Yeah, it's going with it,
let us.

Speaker 3 (01:35:01):
Know, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:35:03):
But he was the only guy and if it wasn't
that race, then it was another one. But he was
the only guy to put the hard tires on and
they absolutely crushed. Like it was just the perfect choice.
It worked so so well for him. So when it
happens and it pays off, you always remember it. But
most weekends someone is doing something weird with the tires.

(01:35:26):
It just doesn't pay off, and you kind of just
forget about them, and then we talk about it incredulously.
But it's always happening.

Speaker 2 (01:35:33):
Yeah, it is. There's always we get the tire allocation,
and there's always an anomaly, if you will, on the
grid where someone's had a rush of blood and gone,
you know what, chuck a qualifying tyre on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:45):
Yeah, like I reckon, I can make the soft last
to the end of the Grand Prix. But Pedro, you struggled,
You didn't make it last the end of the sprint. Yeah,
but I reckon, I reckon, I can do it. In
the Grand Prix, the Grand Prix twice the length, right, Yeah, yeah,
I just I'm getting a vibe. I think I can
do it.

Speaker 2 (01:36:02):
So the universe spoke to me in my yeah exactly,
and said, go for the softs.

Speaker 3 (01:36:08):
On, going for the soft Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:36:10):
One of those weird moments where everyone's like, all right, Jesus,
he's lost it. He's finally cracked.

Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
He's done. We had half a season out of him
that was good, and now he's done. He didn't get
the VR forty six ride. He's lost his fucking mind.

Speaker 2 (01:36:25):
Yeah, yep, his eggs have rolled out of the basket. Jesus.
It happens, and nine times out of ten it goes
dramatically wrong. Yeah. But these guys are free to make
their own choices, and this was one of them.

Speaker 1 (01:36:39):
Quite and early on it did look like a pretty
good gamble, like he was right fighting with the front
four guys when he was fourth, so he was fighting
with the front three guys. But in the second half
of the race it did start to drop quite dramatically
and he was dropping over a second of lap to
the leaders by the end. Overall, though that tire choice aside,

(01:37:00):
this was another good weekend from a Costa, a podium,
a fourth, happy days.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Exactly, all things considered weird tired choice aside good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:37:10):
Yeah, I also just lied. It wasn't a podium and
a fourth.

Speaker 3 (01:37:12):
It was two.

Speaker 2 (01:37:12):
Fourths, yes, two fourths.

Speaker 1 (01:37:17):
Third place. And then in this one, which would be
rubbing some salt in the worn tire wound of Acosta,
was an A Bastia Nini taking his first Grand Prix
podium for katn and and A has been looking so
good in the last year rounds. So I've said it
all already, so it doesn't really matter. But it's starting
to feel like the old bass Uni is still in
there and it's coming to the four once again.

Speaker 2 (01:37:38):
Yeah, it's feeling at the time to update my T shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:37:42):
Yeah, you don't need to, mate, it's not got any
Dacatti branding on. It's it's still just an NA T shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:37:48):
You're good.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Yeah, that is true. The official fan club T shirt
as well.

Speaker 1 (01:37:53):
Yeah, exactly. So that's better than my Frankie Morbidelli T shirt,
which is now three teams ago.

Speaker 2 (01:38:00):
Yeah, there's three teams to go.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:38:02):
Yeah, I do get a lot of looks when I
wear mine now it's I pushed like a bastard. What what? Why?

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
Oh, that's a really good point actually, because no one
you have to be quite a die hard motor TP
fan and have to have been quite a die hard
moorgip fan for the last four years or something to
understand that T shirt.

Speaker 2 (01:38:18):
Like.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
It's not like even new die hard fans will get that.

Speaker 2 (01:38:22):
No, exactly. Yeah, that is a good one. I liked it.
When we were walking around Valencia and I had it on.
There was no no, I didn't see another one anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:38:30):
Yeah, that was good, but you still get the nords
of appreciation. People are still like a nice T shirt,
and it helps that it's just black and pink. I
love the black and pink color combo.

Speaker 2 (01:38:38):
Yeah, and it's subtle as well. That's a good T shirt.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Yeah, Yeah, it's a good one. Although I'm not sure anything.
It's a bastard in bright pink fonted subtle to.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Be honest, quite a bit. You said it was a massive
tent man mess. Yeah, give you this one. Let's put
some clothes way they do in the island, because I'm
good boy. You know another place to you do ironing.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
I'm going to extend this tangent.

Speaker 2 (01:39:06):
You iron iron?

Speaker 1 (01:39:08):
What do you iron?

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
Clothes? What clothes? Well, just T shirts, T shirts, jeans, shirts, jumpers, pillowcases, curtains,
do vacer fuck off?

Speaker 1 (01:39:20):
No, all right, shirts granted, most shirts do need to
be ironed.

Speaker 3 (01:39:26):
I'll give you that.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
Every other item you've just described feels like a waste
of time.

Speaker 2 (01:39:32):
Brought up with the military. Grandad just got used to it.

Speaker 1 (01:39:37):
Mate, there's some amount of I'm incredulous right now. I'm
incredulous when anyone tells me the iron anything. I just
do not understand why you would do any ironing. It's
just what a waste of time?

Speaker 2 (01:39:48):
Mate. I find it very therapeutic. I will get it.
Pull that pile back, there will be ironed.

Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
No, that's like kids clothes and stuff on there though.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Yeah you're got to iron them.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
Yeah wow, all right, fair enough, we'll got to kicks
in different ways.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Yeah, I find it very therapeutic. So I'll pilot all
in the living room. I'll pop a movie on my
pups and put my headphones in and some music on
the way.

Speaker 1 (01:40:17):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough to be fair, I will
I'll grant you if it's a therapeutic thing to do.
Then that's a very good thing. I really enjoy sitting
and sewing and repairing clothes, and I will do that.
I'll wait until I've got a pile of clothes that
needs to be sewn, and then I'll just sit down
and put a film on and I'll just sew for
a few hours and just repair all the holes in

(01:40:38):
my pockets or patch my clothes, or you know, replace
zips and things. So okay, I can understand it from
that point of view, but still, mate, ironing unbelievable these days.

Speaker 2 (01:40:49):
I quite enjoy it. I quite like it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:51):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:40:52):
Getting back to my.

Speaker 1 (01:40:53):
Little tangent that you extended, Yeah, sorry, I took us
off on an extra tangent there.

Speaker 2 (01:40:57):
Yes, we're talking about offensive clothing. So a while back,
when my dad was still alive and and Paulie with cancer,
I found a charity aline called Let's Have Cancer, and
it has a merchandise I was hoping on there. Yeah,
I was like, right, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna buy
a T shirt America company and I can't remember the
woman that started this is probably ten years ago now,

(01:41:21):
but their T shirt they released literally just had on
the front fuck cancer.

Speaker 3 (01:41:26):
Oh that's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Black T shirt, white writing. So I was like, right,
I'm having one, Sarah's having one, and I was doing
the Iroland earlier and Sarah's been having as what I
have a clothes I picked up this black T shirt
and I turned it the right way around and it
just had on the front cancer and it was hers.
I was just like, it won't fit har anymore. Wonder
if it'll fit me? And it doesn't. It doesn't. I

(01:41:50):
was like, it's a mission now, it's a fine mine.
I'm going to find it. And I looked out and
I'm going to wear it because it's very offensive and blatant.

Speaker 1 (01:41:59):
I like that, and no one can be upset with you.
What are you going to say the police? Like you
said off? So really, Yeah, you're gonna tell me I
remember wearing shirt. You're going to tell me stake off.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
Yeah. I've worn my mine in the past around savingeries
in town. I remember giving you some looks. I was like,
go on say something.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
Yeah, quite pretty bold.

Speaker 2 (01:42:22):
Yeah, And that charity is still going. So if anyone
wants to support you could go on the Let's Cancer
Big shower out here and they don't do the full
boar cancer Reny Moore, so that you will the see
is like the band, the cancer band in white or
pink or whatever color you decide to have it nice. Yeah,

(01:42:43):
that's that's very cool.

Speaker 1 (01:42:45):
No, that's cool. That's a nice tangent. And there's a
nice uh clearly unsponsored.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
Do F cancer the cherry.

Speaker 1 (01:42:55):
Yes, I'll give him the links they guy. We will
hopefully remember to do that and they will be in
the show notes if we do. In fact, let me
just make a note of that now, Steve and I
will find find the links. There we go. So let's
bring it back then to the racing. Steve, where were

(01:43:16):
we second place? That's right, Mark Marquez, his wind streak
has come to an end.

Speaker 2 (01:43:27):
It feels like the end of a very good TV
series where we've.

Speaker 1 (01:43:36):
Ensured that, you know, there's going to be another great
spin off series from it that's just going to continue anyway.
This is Mozana Onwards. Is better call Saul to breaking
bad like this, There's been a blip and we're just
going to come back and we're going to smash it again.

Speaker 2 (01:43:50):
Yes, yes, it's I don't know, it's hard to believe
it's over because I want to see how far he
could take it, but all good things have to come
to an end.

Speaker 1 (01:43:59):
So honestly, mate, you could just see him starting again though.
You can just see him going on another run till
the end of the season and then banging out the
first three of the following year, and all of a sudden,
we're talking about matching his ten in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Yes, yeah, he's just going to pick up for where
he left off. They have Bizardo race.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
Wind well, yes, I'm sure that will be the case.
But uh, yeah, the wind streak has come to an
end because a different marquees in Alex always when and
one this one he finally got it done and legitimately
beat his brother to the win. Alex looked amazing all

(01:44:45):
weekend and I hadn't been for his crash in the sprint,
he definitely would have done the double. But this is
just this isn't a reth This isn't Mark fucking it
and Alex is being able to take a win. This
is Alex dominating Mark for probably the first time in
Motor GP.

Speaker 2 (01:45:02):
Yes, yeah, he had the measure of it all weekend.
This is the first time that we've seen what you
could say is a proper chink in the Mark markets
our I think the best way to put it then,
because there's bloody two of them. It's too hard.

Speaker 1 (01:45:22):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:45:23):
You have to think suddenly, think it's not just talking
about market as you're talking about the other one as well.
He's becoming annoying little bugger. Yeah, this is the first
time he legitimately looks like he was gonna or did
take it to his brother.

Speaker 3 (01:45:41):
Yeah. Quite.

Speaker 1 (01:45:42):
And there's been quite a lot of speculation as to
where the Mark let Alex win this one, but honestly
that's just haters haten like a Mark was properly on
the limit trying to keep up with him, let alone
catch him. Like for a lot of the race, to
be fair, I was unsure as to whether Mark was
just riding behind Alex and getting Ready's pounce later in

(01:46:03):
the race. But then Alex went and unleashed his full
pace towards the end and no one had an answer
for him. Mark worked really hard to try and stay
with him, but after a couple of big moments, like
an idea, it looked like he was going down. On
a couple of loads of occasions, he seemed to settle
for second, which given the championship implications was the right

(01:46:25):
thing to do, and people have said, well, you know,
if it was earlier in the season, he probably would
have tried, he would have overtaken him. If this had
been earlier in the season, Mark would have crashed trying
to overtake Alex. Like there's juous. He just didn't have
the pace for him this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:46:38):
No, not at all, Alex. I don't know what's happened
with Alex this year. The pace that this guy has
suddenly got is incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
He's gotten the best bike on the grid. Mate, That's
what's happened this year. Alex Marquez is not a mercurial talent, Like,
there's no two ways about it. He's not a Mark Marquez,
he's not a Valantine Rossi, he's not a fabric Quatraro.
But he's a really, really good rider who has just
gotten through the best bike on the grid and has
just it made the absolute most of it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:09):
That is very true, to be fair, that is very true. Yeah,
I deserved win for this weekend. The guy looked fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:47:19):
Yeah yeah, absolutely just and again what a fucking result.
I I just love seeing these two together. I am
just a huge fan of just seeing really positive, friendly
relationships in the world full stop. But like, this is
the reason I will still sit and watch Top Git
or watch the Grand Tour or whatever the new Grand

(01:47:41):
Tour series that seems to be advertised is going to
be one. Yeah, they not so Grand Tour or something.
I don't know what the fuck they're doing. I could
get too bad, yes, probably, but these are these Jeremy
Clarks is a farmer, don't you know? Steve Farmers have
got no money?

Speaker 2 (01:47:59):
Well, I don't know. I grew up with I can
imagine being broke or Hammond.

Speaker 1 (01:48:11):
Yeah I could. Yeah, but they don't love one anyway.
But my point here is that I actually don't like
any of those guys. I don't like the three of them.
I think they're all awful human beings. However, I love
watching their shows because they just have this amazing relationship
between the three of them that's just really cool to watch.
I really like Alexander mar Marquez, and they have just
this amazing relationship that is so cool to just see

(01:48:35):
played out. And what I really love about it is
they clearly have this deep adoration and just this family
love for each other that there is no shame in
them showing and to the point that they're fucking hugging
on the crash barrier in its most homo erotic way
after or on the tire offense, the air fences and

(01:48:55):
stuff after Alex has won this race, having this big embrace,
this big hug, and it was just amazing to see
and in this really, let's face it, most of GP
is quite full of quite matcho personalities and really macho
fans that don't people getting upset because Frankie Morbidelli's helmet
has got some fucking flowers on. There are some ridiculous

(01:49:18):
people that watch this sport and competing in this sport.
But it's so nice to just see these two guys
just with allways love and adoration for each other and
have just no shame in showing it and just are
celebrating together and it's just such a lovely, wholesome way
that I'm just so here for just seeing the two
of them dominate for years to come because I just
think it's lovely.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
Yeah, they do have a fantastic relationship and that bleeds
through the teams as well, the Grassini team to the
Factory to Catchy team. You seem getting on very well.
It does seem like there their close relationship is very
infectious with the people around them, and you've got some
great people over at Grossini. There's a great show of

(01:50:02):
Suji Perry talking to Nadia Parlivani, like absolutely drenched in champagne,
holding the trophy, just having a chat and she's like
a shampool Champagnia and all this. It's just really nice.
And you see that they were always together, and there
were shots I saw on social media of like Markers
taking water bombs into the Christina garage and the parloring

(01:50:24):
each other and with them there, they've got a kind
of infectious love and it does bleed through everywhere. So
it is nice to see. And you are right, there
are some people out there that you know, don't like
all that kind of thing. We live in a world
where if you turn the news on it, it's bloody
shit and brought horrible. When you see things like this,

(01:50:46):
it's quite refreshing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
Yeah, and let's just celebrate that, joy man, Let's just
celebrate it. Those guys have the relationship. Yeah, I think
I have with most of my family, but I'm not
convinced i'd have in front of cameras with most of
my family, and I just think it's super lovely. I
super love There was a shot as well, if during
the race it was coming to the final lapse that
it was inside the Grassini box. It was Alex Marquez's

(01:51:11):
girlfriend or fiance. I don't know what raceship they're shagging,
essentially they're shagging, but it was it was the shot
just holding Nadia Pavanni's hand and they just both looked
really nervous, but just the two of them, they're just
sitting holding hands, just watching this, and it just summed
it all up for me, Like it's just the emotion

(01:51:31):
and the relationships in this sport is just so good.
It's just so amazing. And I do think I feel
like I'm gushing over this now, but I just think
the marquess.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
Yeah I do.

Speaker 1 (01:51:43):
I'm getting a tear in my eye, man, but I
just think, yeah, well, this is what happened to save
Two men rolling around wearing a leather on air fences.

Speaker 3 (01:51:54):
Hello.

Speaker 1 (01:51:56):
But I just think they sum up everything that's right
in the world. It's just two bros just with an
amazing relationship and it's just playing out that they're doing
the thing they love, and it turns out they might
be literally at this moment, the two best guys in
the world at that. So that's a lucky coincidence. However,
everything else is fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
Yeah, yeah, for the Marcus family, it was a fantastic weekend.

Speaker 3 (01:52:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:52:18):
Absolutely, Let's move it on. Then. I've just got a
couple more talking points I want to hit Steve. We
are running very long on this one, So the last
two talking points here are Prillier. Oh what a bad,
bad weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
I yeah, I don't really know where to go with
a Prillier. It just all imploded on itself.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
Everything's not even their fault, which is the maddest thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:47):
I know. They grew. They just had this kind of
magnet for bad luck this weekend. If it could have happened,
it would have happened to them, And it didn't really
feel like they could do anything to get away from that.
It was just one of these weekends where there's no
explaining it. It's just pure bad luck.

Speaker 1 (01:53:10):
But I think that they managed to attract all of
the other Italian bikes a bit too much. Maybe they
were riding around with an Italian Foster's.

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Maybe a Peroni strapped to the back.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I have that and everything else. Italian was like absolutely
and was just going towards it. So Morbidelli wiped out
I've just lost my notes here. Morbidelli wiped out Martin
about halfway through the sprint, and then a lap or
so later Aldergare, not Italian granted, however, on an Italian bike,
wiped out Bazeki. Yeah, both of these are really fucking

(01:53:45):
poor showing from the Decati guys. Both did receive long
lap penalties to their specific incidents, but it was purely
down to Morbidelian Aldergare that Noah Prettier scored neither of
the factory are Prettier sorry finished this race.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
No, no outside intervention caused the problems.

Speaker 3 (01:54:03):
Yeah, quite.

Speaker 1 (01:54:04):
And then in the Grand Prix, Berzeki went down after
contact with Morbidelli. Although to be fair, I didn't actually
think this one was Frankie's fault. Frankie had the line,
Buzeki kind of came in a bit too tight and
hoped there would be space and there wasn't. So actually,
if anything, anyone's to blame this one was bez But
still unfortunate that he was wiped out by his tea,

(01:54:26):
his forty six academy mate and friend Morbidelli.

Speaker 2 (01:54:30):
Yeah, it was just always something else around them.

Speaker 1 (01:54:34):
Quite dig He also did go down at the same
time as Zeki trying to avoid the crash, and Frankie
later crashed out by himself anyway, so he had to
have a weekend too. But most of Frankie's bad weekend
was his own fucking fault aside from the Buzeki incident,
and he didn't even crash from that. So yeah, it
was just an unfortunate showing for a Prillier and a

(01:54:55):
bad weekend for Frankie.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Yeah, all in all. One two forget.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Absolutely my last talking point here. Steve very quickly Elisia Spargaro,
he was back. It did not take long for the
Castlan rider to recover from his surgery and get back
to racing. Sure he may have finished last forty three
seconds off the win and six seconds back from some
catchantra but the fact he's come back so quickly is

(01:55:24):
quite something.

Speaker 2 (01:55:26):
This astounded me when it's when we saw the announcement
he was going to race this weekend, I was like,
what the hell the guy have?

Speaker 3 (01:55:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
You text me. I was like, surely Steve's read that
wrong somewhere, and I googled. I was like, well, fuck,
as if that's just happened.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
I know.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
The first thing I thought was like, can I get
hold of some of the meds that he's been on?

Speaker 4 (01:55:45):
Yeah, I have no words broken or fractured vertebrae in
your back, the same ones that you bugg it up.

Speaker 2 (01:55:56):
And here he is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
I was like, quite, there's many fucking mind of fifteen
sixteen years on and still talking about it. He's done
all right?

Speaker 2 (01:56:09):
It used to got the limp and three days later
he was racing a motor GP bikes. I think there's
some there's a difference in what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
It took me more than two years to get back
on a bike, Steve more than two years, and that
was hond of c B two fifty and that wentn't
some three hundred horse by motor GP machine.

Speaker 2 (01:56:26):
No, no, I certainly didn't see a relation. In Sheffield
for however.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Long exactly, Alisha's got too much money to be going
to an NHS hospital. Mate, he's in some private hospital somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:56:38):
Yeah, yeah, maybe he just had an Alan Manjim's Spye
and just infused into him. He's like that.

Speaker 1 (01:56:45):
It turns out he is actually Logan, so he just
hearing sortid.

Speaker 2 (01:56:52):
That's a little spiral doubt.

Speaker 1 (01:56:55):
Job done easy, Happy days. Then Steve does bring us
pretty much to the end of the show there. But
let's very quickly we need to recap our predictions from
this roy race weekend, and we need to make our
predictions for Mazzano, which is next week or this week. Sorry,
we're not gonna shout out what we're looking for in

(01:57:17):
Mazano because everyone's just going to be looking for the
amahave for Sorry, that's going to be about it. Yes,
but yes, let's recap our predictions quickly here. So for so,
let's say the sprint, the actual result was a mart
Marquez win of Fabier Quattro second and a Fabi and
Antonio third. I predicted and Mark Marquez win, a Marco

(01:57:39):
Bozeki second and a Frankie Morbdelli third. So I score
three points for having Mark in the correct position. Didn't
get the rest of the podium there, No, you predicted
and Mark Marquez win a Bazeki second and a Pedro
Acsta third. You've also scort three points for marking the
correct position, but nothing else for the rest of the podium.

Speaker 2 (01:57:59):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:58:01):
In the Grand Prix, I predicted a Mark win, an
Alex second, and a I took a punt, and I
predicted a Kuah Martin third, so none of those came
off exact. However, I got both Mark and Alex on
the podium for two points. You predicted and Mark Marquez win,
a fab dejan Antonio second and a Marco Berzeki third,

(01:58:21):
so you none of them in the correct positions. Again,
you scored a single point to having Mark on the
podium on the lonely point position. So I scored five
points over the weekend, you scored four. That brings my
total up from one hundred and fifteen to one hundred
and twenty and your total up from one hundred and
twenty to one hundred and twenty four.

Speaker 2 (01:58:39):
I am closing you shrinking fast by a point of
race weekend. It's going to the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:45):
Last few rounds. It has been a point around, so
feeling pretty good right now.

Speaker 2 (01:58:49):
The last three it's all been a.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
Wow, that's okay. See if there's lots of racing left
and you're still in the hot seat, mate.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Yeah, yeah, there's plenty to come. Seven rounds left, it's
still time.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Exactly, So predictions from Bizano then Steve, I am going
for in the sprint and Mark Marquez win and Alex
Marquez second and a Pedro Acosta third.

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
Nice, I'm not too dissimilar. Obviously, Mark Alex one two.

Speaker 1 (01:59:21):
Had already wroten those down, so that's a good start.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
Yeah, you might as well just copy and post that
to the next bit as well. I've also got a
Katie up there, but I'm going Anya.

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Okay, nice and your Grand Prix prediction, then Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
Obviously Mark and Alex one too, and then I don't know,
mister Bazeki, I think over the longevity of the rows.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Okay, So obviously I'm going Mark and Alex for the
Grand Prix first and second, and I'm going Faber dig
Antonio third. N Yeah, I'm feeling it's going to be Italian.
Whether it's an Italian bike or Italian rider, it's going
to be an Italian podium. So it's interesting though the
last few rounds we're just like, right, it all comes

(02:00:09):
down to the third place.

Speaker 2 (02:00:12):
It's just that bronze bronze position that is doing it all.

Speaker 1 (02:00:17):
At the minute, yeah, exactly. That then does bring us
to the end of this one, Steve. We've just bounced
over two hours. So I apologize for those listeners that
get in touch and tell us that two hours is
too long, But honestly, I didn't think it was going
to be that this week, Steve. But we've been on
the tangents, we've we've brought it back a few times,
and there it is. We've we've broken two hours. So

(02:00:40):
that is the end. So guys, stay safe and look
after each other, and we will speak to you very soon.
Good Bye. Music is by Andrew Greenwood. Thanks for listening.
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