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December 2, 2025 94 mins
This week on For The Love Of MotoGP:

Tim and Steve are in the same room once more to talk MotoGP. 

This one got a little off the rails, so if you're looking for 100% MotoGP content, this might not be the show for you! 

Talking points for this episode include:

- Would you eat human meat?
- The Valencia test
- Maverick Vinales' new rider coach

And much, much more! 

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Reference material for this episode came from: https://www.motogp.com/ | https://www.the-race.com/ | https://www.wikipedia.org/ | https://oxleybom.com | MCN Sylvain Guintoli's Marathon

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Steve, my good man. How the devil are you?

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Oh good, buddy, how are you.

Speaker 1 (00:07):
I'm very good, my friend, I am very good. We
are back. We're in the same room. It was an
unexpected treat.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
Yeah, it was a surprise earlier when I got the
text saying I'll be around at normal time. Yeah, you're here,
come on in.

Speaker 1 (00:21):
Yeah exactly. And then I got here early and just
let myself in and set up and everything and yeah,
so here I was roaming through all your things, having
a root around. You've got a nice new keyboard there,
I say. New. It's a keyboard that's got a floppy
disk slot.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I know. Yeah, Enzo's learning piano at school. At school,
ruined me up. We've got a keyboard bring home? You
know you think a little one, Yeah, I not a
full size looking yeahmaha, thing from the nineties. I'm guessing
with a floppy disk drive.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
It wasn't an absolute ton It's the kind.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Of thing you could imagine Spando Ballet would have had
on stage with them. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
It is absolutely huge. It's nearly as wide as my desk.
It's a full his keyboard. Yeah, and I'm just like,
what the hell am I supposed to do with this.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
It was when we got to the school or I
got to the school and I like, have you got
a car? Was like, yeah, you're list somewhere. They were like, no,
you're not going to carry this thing very far.

Speaker 1 (01:13):
I was like, okay, this is not what I signed
up for. It was like cheers and so yeah, meat,
but at least you didn't have to buy him a
keyboard to practice on.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
No, just got to give it back, thank god. At
some point.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
There's not much room to keep it here.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
It takes up a lot of spaces.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yeah, it does. You've had to give up your entire desk.
So can you play Xbox over that?

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Or are you having to No, no, sat on the
table here earlier. Okay we had at the back plugged
in behind you fair enough. Yeah it's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Yeah, it takes up some space.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yeah, yeah you're back man. It's good to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yes, and back. Drove back last night, finished work and
went back, had some dinner because I didn't want to
leave work and then drive through rush hours. I went home,
had some dinner and then yeah, drove back. So three
hours or something, so it wasn't too bad a run.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
It's just not bad.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
It was the long way distance wise, but it's waste
unto your carriageways. So you add like eighty k on
but cut forty five minutes off.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Yeah, it's really weird. You sort of go up and
then down and then across.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Yeah, exactly, it's the weird route from here that you
I drive down to almost Essex, a lot of motorways
and a roads, and then up through Suffolk to get back.
It's a weird route to take, but it was quite
a fucking weird thing. Though. We're on the is it
thick thorn roundabout?

Speaker 2 (02:23):
In your riage?

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Come around there, everything's fine, got into the U. This
is a very niche reference for anyone that lives outside
of Norfolk in the UK, which ighlged is most of you.
But I was coming onto the roundabout. Everything's all good.
You have to be on the inside lanes, fifth exit
or whatever towards Great Yarmouth. Yeah, cutting the round as
you do, swapping lanes to get into the outside, does

(02:44):
exits disappear? And then all of a sudden the lanes closed.
Every the road I want to go on is closed,
and I just embraced with nothing in front of me
except bollards and flashing orange lights. Thankfully, it was quite
late and there was nothing else around, so I could
just like glance across on weird round and carry on.
But then I had to do two laps the roundabout. Well,
because Ways hadn't told me it was closed. There was

(03:05):
no signage anyway overnight road works yea, there was nothing.
And then I had to be there was no signs
or anything, and I was like right, So I did
two laps around the roundabout, trying to work out we're
structured to go and looking at the signs because waves
were still tripping hours. I just turned the fucking thing
off with near Norwich. It's fine what we're doing from here.
And then in the end I had to cut through
near the hospital and oh yeah, I saw a sign

(03:27):
to the show ground and I was like, well, that's
going to take me somewhere. I'll see another sign and
so then I had a bit of a fun drive
just using signs again, which I haven't done in years,
so that was quite exciting.

Speaker 2 (03:35):
Yeah, we often do it city level. We only go
to two places in the city of the shop center
of the hospital.

Speaker 1 (03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
Yeah, we don't bother with the ways or anything. It
was just but yeah, they're working on that for like
two years. I was like, the road improvements. So there's
three big.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Mate up in one of the signs because it was
there's all of the roadworks. As you come towards the
roundabout it's one forty or something like that. There's all
the signs and it's like, we are working, you just
can't see us. You're in the coffee hut mate, Yeah exactly.
And then another one was like this roadworks would be
finished by the end of twenty twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah. Fuck.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
And then you come around and then more closures. So
that was exciting. But yes, we made it back. We're
here just for the weekend. My bike loaded up because
my sister came down in the Luton van loaded the
bike into the back of that taking it up to
the Midlands to try and sell it up there, because
trying to sell it here has not gone well. No
wrong time yet to be selling.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
The bike wrong. Yeah, winter is not a time to
advertise a bike. But like I say, up there, you've
got five major cities.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Around exactly within an hour, far more joys. Hopefully I
can get to get it sold up there before I
head away.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
That'd be nice.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
So yeah, that's done. Then heading back up road tomorrow
for dinner tomorrow. So I thought I'd spend the one
real evening privilege hanging out, have a couple of beers
with Steve and chat motorbikes.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh such a privilege.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah it's nice, and I've got some nipples. Yeah, it's
I've been so much today. I found a peak pie
in the fridge that one of Shari's. We call it neighbors.
They used to live across the road at Shari's mum's
old house.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Right.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
We still refer to the sury S neighbors for some reason.
But Shari, before we left to go up to Nottingham,
came back one day from their house with pie. I
was like, oh that's great, and I ate one and
put the other in the freezer. So I've just been
gorging myself on that today. Why don't blame it forgot
it was there. So it's been a shriek. Sounds good, yea,
But how how has your time been, Steve since we've

(05:28):
last been in a room together.

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It's been good man, not really done that much. It's existing.
Boys go to school, boys come home from school.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
Yeah, classic Yeah, your days sticked by the fucking nights
are getting long, the days a getting short.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Yeah, Winter in the UK is bullshit, mate, Winter.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
In the UK is crap. Yeah, you're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 (05:48):
Well, this is the latest I've been in the UK,
the deepest.

Speaker 2 (05:52):
You're only gone by now.

Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, different it's been. It's when I leave worker,
like half light is dark. Yeah, what the fuck is
this about?

Speaker 2 (06:03):
Those used to be the nights to get me, Like,
especially at the boatyard, we get there at six AM's
pitch black. Yeah, you're just appear in the workshop artificial light. Yeah,
you come out half five and pitch black. Yeah, quite,
I'm a vampire.

Speaker 1 (06:14):
Yeah, that's the kind of how I feels like.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
It's weird in the UK, you know what, it's weird.
I'm sure it's the same over the world, but like, yeah,
you go work in the dirt, you come home with
the donk.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Yeah, And to me this is very reminiscent when you
spoke nights in the winter you wouldn't see daylight, and
now it's the same thing. I'm driving to work with
the lights on and you know, sun is just rising.
Unless I'm doing any outdoor work. I'm in the warehouse
all day and I leave and it's dark. I've not
seen daylight. Yeah, I'm like, I'm here taking vitamin deep
hills at the minute exactly a boost. Yeah quite. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah, it's not good for it, No, not good.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
But there we go. It's money in the bank exactly.
It fills the bank exactly. And that is necessary because,
as I'm learning quite quickly, in New Zealand is a
much more expensive destination than I spent my last few years.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Yes, yeah, you've picked a pricey one.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Yeah, yeah, I have, but one when they speak English,
so hopefully, and I'm allowed to work, so that's the
important thing.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, that will help. And you haven't got to
spend money on language.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
No, no, quite, not that I've done that for a while.
I spent a lot of money learning Spanish. I've not
bothered to learn Thai or Cambodian or anything over the
last few years.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
No, that one would have been costly.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
No, Cambodian would have been fine. I think I probably
could have got some Cambodian down. But Tie is a
tonal language and that would not be happy to language.
If I was living there, i'd learn it.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Yeah, as far as you eat. I find it far
easier to learn a language if you're immersed in it.
Over here, you have like one lesson a week and
then everyone speaks English. To find someone to speak Spanish,
yeah exactly, French or something is really hard.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
My Spanish has probably disappeared now, struggle.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
It's hard to pick it back up. Yeah, quite Yeah,
and we're just crab over here for language.

Speaker 1 (07:53):
But then it's the thing, mate, English is the lingual
francor of the world. There's the British Empire was good
for something, spreading English language.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Yeah, but there's something for like about ound to someone
else's country and having respect to learn at least a greeting.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Yeah, I know, we'll learn a greeting wherever you go,
wherever I go. Yeah, what is the key green? How
are you going? I think we'd be. Yeah, there we go.
We will find worry about that I get there. Yes,
another month and a bit until I have to worry
about that. He's here for a while, Yes exactly. But anyway, Steve,
we do have some motive GPS to talk about this week.

(08:30):
We do. We missed the show last week, so we're
recording this one on a Saturday. We didn't record last
week for various reasons. We were doing something Tuesday night.
I was then busy for the rest of the week,
everything with my grandma and all that drama.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
So I think times just class.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Yeah. So but then it's one of those things we
kind of during the winter, we go to this once
every two weeks thing. Yeah, and there's not a huge
amount of news it anyway. So I imagine this show
recorded on a Saturday, will still be up to date
come Tuesday.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yes, yeah, we'll be on part Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
Now I've said that something really going to happen.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Tomorrow. It'll be like, oh god, yeah, quite one of
the chair.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
There, mate, there is a chair.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
There is myself right on the funny bone.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
Good effort. So yes, this week, Steve, we will be.
In fact, let's dive into the show, shall we.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Let's talk about good stuff. So I'm Tim, He's Steve.
And this is for the love of Moto GP. If
you are new to the show, welcome, If you are returning,

(09:42):
welcome back. This is for the love of Moto GP.
And quite often the intros do stretch to ten minutes
of us just catching up before we sit down to actually.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Talk most Yeah, we're worse if we're in the same room.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Yeah, exactly, if we're in the same room and.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
You get the full experience. So what it's like when
we used to sit down in the pub exactly just
have a little chat. This is the full board thing.

Speaker 1 (10:06):
Quite and that's the point of this show, where Steve
and I sit down with a couple of beers and
talk about Moto GP like we would in the pub.
Steve today is on Australia's Finest.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Am on the finalist export of the Dining down Under.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm on Camden Easy now, which is a nice hazy IPA.
Actually there's more in the fridge. You should have one
of these, Like I think I.

Speaker 2 (10:27):
Might try one of those little bit.

Speaker 1 (10:30):
So that's us. We're on the beers and we do
have some Moto GP to talk about. We've already had
a couple of beers just for full disclosure here because
we just recorded a Patreon podcast, so we did. If
you want to hear that, that was our top five
riders that didn't appear in the top five in the
official MOSTORJP Championship in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Five, plus some revelations, plus I.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Get right to the end for that one. Yeah, no spoilers, Yeah,
no spoilers there, But if you do want to hear that,
then we go up to the Patreon sign up at
any paid level and you will have access to a
monthly bonus show. In those we talk about historic events
have happened in mosti GP. We talk about things like this,
We kind of talk about some current events. We reveal

(11:12):
some things that are on car wind screens. Occasionally, I
don't know, just yeah, you'll after pay and see what
that's all about. It. So, yes, we're a couple of
beers in already, and this week for the show Steve,
we're going to touch on the Valencia test and one
news item and other than that, it's been pretty dry
on the Emoti GP newsfront.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
I think they've all just signed off from the season
and are enduring a bit of downtime. It was a
long season.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
These guys have the longest season ever exactly.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
These guys have worked hard for our entertainment, so I
think they're all just enjoying them will unrest.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
For plenty of riders that are needing to heal up
and get ready.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
The hospitals are full of riders that surgeries happening left
right at the center. I'm sure there's probably a few
on very nice yachts somewhere warm. Yes, there's all sorts
going on. Yeah, quite, there's a lot going on. Yeah,
I don't think it's been that much news. Did you
see the silving in totally news?

Speaker 1 (12:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
So he is going to run the London Marathon, I
believe next year for charity in a full race suit. Wow, kid, Yeah,
this is in honor of Luca. I can't remember the
exact charity offhand. I should have committed it to memory.
But yeah, he is going to be running the full
London Marathon blessing in a race and let's just hope

(12:37):
it's not as hot as what it was this year.
And Sarah Rennick because that was insane. Yeah, hats off
to the guy.

Speaker 1 (12:44):
You can do it in race boots as well.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
I think so. Yea. There's a little snippet of him
on social media and he's in full leathers. No helmet
obviously because that would be a bit much. But yeah,
full leathers.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
Yeah, here we go. I got an MC article here.
I'm going to to run London Marathon and racing leathers
in memory of his son lu Cars. He's got running shoes.

Speaker 2 (13:04):
On feet would be trashed for.

Speaker 1 (13:08):
Race leathers, gonna be hot pounds run one piece of
raising money for Basic Cancer Support charity. Yeah that's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah quite well a guy, Yeah, blessing.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
He looks pretty good in his training run pictures here
on the MCN website. But he does yeah for BMW letthers.
I didn't realize he was a being a test rider,
but I assume that's what he is. But i'pen a
link to this article in the show notes. If anyone
wants any more information about that, he just click the
link down.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
I don't forget to find it in yourselves. If you
had a little extra into the bank. We know it's
coming up to Christmas. But if anyone finds.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
It, yeah, well you've got a little wild to London
Mouth and yet Yeah he got till April.

Speaker 2 (13:55):
Yeah April April?

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Is it really that long ago?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Wow, I run my half marathon at the weekend, Steve. Wow.
I know that doesn't compare to either what Sarah did
or what Sylvan Tony is doing.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Still more than I could do.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Yeah, I've been hobbling around a lot is trashed. The
day after my quads were pretty ruined. But yeah, my
knee is ruined. Well, this is the most comfortable I've
been for the last week.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Remember you saying you're going to do it. I didn't
realize when it.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Was Yeah, it was just over half in the end,
Actually it was we did there's a lapped events. It
was like a five point six kilometer lap and it
was six hour events. He just ran as many laps
as you wanted to do in the six hours, so
we ran just over half marathon, me and two of
my siblings, which was Yeah, it was a lot of fun.
Actually I really enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Good well done.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
But yeah, I feeling it now. But Silvan will be
absolutely feeling running letters mate.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (14:51):
Tell you what though, there is he's going to have
some really good fitness out of patients running in. He's
going to get really hot. His body will be fucking
like it. I mean, the guy super fit anyway, Obviously
he's going to be really fit by the end of this.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Yeah, yeah, he's going to feel that. Just watching some
of the people up. When Sarah finished walking around London
stairs find the stairs to a tube station.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
Oh my god, mate, I can only imagine.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
There's people like literally getting carried, yeah, like muscles and
locked up. Sarah was bad if we had to walk
about half a mile to a train station and we
gave the choices, Actually we can go down at the
tube here, She's like keep going straight yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Stairs.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Yeah, yeah, that metal now takes pride of place on
the shelf.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, bless him, but yeah, heads off ties link at
the show notes.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, I quite checked that. So that's just an empty
article or link to the and yeah, worth a read there.
And obviously this is going to be much more physical
challenges and like this is an emotional journey there.

Speaker 2 (15:52):
That's going to be yeah, touching at the heartstrings.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah, absolutely, I imagine. I hope there will be some
good social media content around this as well. So I
really your journey pretty closely.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, everyone we were as well, will pump the hell
out of this. Yeah yeah, put that link in everywhere
so you can get as much charity money roads as possible.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Yeah quite yeah, good for him, what a guy.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
Yeah yeah, so charity for a thing that's close to
me as well, so we yeah checking them some money.

Speaker 1 (16:25):
Yeah exactly when we have I imagine we'll find a
link to donate to that at some point, and we'll
put that in the show as well when we can. Yes, so, Steve,
let's talk the Valencia test. Hi, we didn't really talk
about this much in the last show. No, So there
are some talking points to cover from the last day

(16:46):
of mostjup Track action in twenty twenty five. Technically not
the real last day because Yamaha then did a private
test a day later at Valencia, but we don't really
know much about that because that was very behind closed doors.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, that was, and this is the one for everyone.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
So exactly, this is the one we've got info from.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Yeah. Yeah, there's quite a bit of coverage of this
actually on the TA Sports site. I love it. I
really like the testing. I really enjoyed. When was the
last time it was televised. I remember Zarko being there.

Speaker 1 (17:17):
I think it was a year he joined, twenty seventeen year.
That's the first year we started recording the podcast. We
are coming next year into our ninth year of podcasting.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Look how far we come.

Speaker 1 (17:32):
We've moved from the living room to the conservatory and
occasionally we well a lot of time we do it
over the internet now.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes, yeah, on site long distance podcaster. There's not many
podcasters that are that committed. Quite Yeah, nine years then
worth it. I've really enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Yeah me too, man, me too, which means then, actually,
for the reg change twenty twenty seven, that'll be our
tenth anniversary of all of podcasting. I don't know what
is the tenth anniversary item. It is the the tin
or aluminium anniversary or in the modern world the diamond

(18:16):
jewelry anniversary was diabod in my head. Yeah, well, the
diamond anniversary is likely sixtieth, isn't it seventieth?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
I think it's the same in the like if you
go traditional, it's a very long time. Yeah so, but
I think like it's all been switched up for modern kind.

Speaker 1 (18:31):
Of everyone's going to fucking sell diamonds exactly.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yeah, and I will.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Put it out there now, diamonds are bullshit, just shaying
diamonds are artificially inflated in price. There's loads of them.
There's absolutely no reason they should cost this much except
for the one company. I think it's Duprey.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Let me just check that we do promise at some
point this is a show about motorcycles.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I think it's Duprey. But let me just check if no,
I don't know if it's a diamond company anyway, who
just have all of the diamonds and just trickle them out?
There are loads of diamonds in the world. Don't pay
stupid money for diamonds. Same with it as most things, though,
isn't it h Yes, diamonds particularly rile.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
Yeah. If anything that's going to make you money, how
do you make more money out of it? You hold them? Yeah,
accentuate the prize and you basically can't everyone.

Speaker 1 (19:24):
Capitalism at its finest.

Speaker 2 (19:25):
Yes, that's how we make the money.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
But traditionally tin or aluminium, the symbolism behind it is
tin is flexible yet durable. It represents a marriage or
relationships that has learned to grow and bend over ten years, Steve,
So we will be there, assuming that we don't snap
next year.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Day before.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Maybe we were too brittle to make it to ten years,
but yes, it will be our Well, we'll call it tin.
Tin is more fun than aluminium, and I'm probably the
way I'm saying aliminium is probably upsetting half of alice
in the base in the US.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, Oh, I'll call it aluminum and will cover all basis.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
Yeah exactly. And to be fair actually to all of
our American listeners. It's not often that I offend you guys,
but I will do this case. They do have a
different spelling, the spelling of almin yeah, aluminum, So it's not.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
That they to be fair, then they are pronouncing it
to their spelling.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
Yeah exactly. So they've taken letters away in the spelling,
is just in the speech?

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Yeah, speak of America. How is your Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (20:26):
Let us know a good point? That was a couple
of days ago, now, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 (20:30):
So?

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Happy things?

Speaker 2 (20:31):
Yeah? Everyone, Yeah, twenty fourth.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I don't think it was that long ago, was it.
I think it might have been Thursday.

Speaker 2 (20:37):
I think it was Thursday. Yeah, twenty fourth is Monday,
wasn't it? So? Yeah, twenty six.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Thanks just to Google, I said, a lot of googling.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Already, there's a lot of this is not much more
cycle contact Thursday. Yeah, Well, happy Thanksgiving? Let us know
how yours was?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yes exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:52):
I'm sure I did see on social media a lot
of posts of a lot of food, and most of
it looked absolutely banging.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
To be fair, I feel a bit jealous that we
don't have things because it's essentially Christmas part one. You
just get kind of a Christmas meal.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
It's kind of builder. It's the warm up, the appetizer
to the big Christmas meal.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Yeah quite, it's you know, the rest will put on
fucking half a stone over Christmas. Imagine Thanksgiving would be
putting on like if that's the start of it, I'd
continue that through till Christmas. I'd be three stone heavier
by the time the year roll around.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I'm terrible with food. I'm a big foodie. I love it.
Wherever we go, I'll just get the menu and I'm
just local guy. Right, what do you have? What do
you like? Yeah? I just want to try everything. I mean,
you know, I have huge respect for vegans, vegetarians, everyone
like that. I just want to try it all.

Speaker 1 (21:41):
Yeah, everything, you know me, I am. I think flexitarian
is how be described. No, I'm fine with baking and
stuff like that doesn't bother me anymore. Faxerian sounds like wanky.
I call myself a vegetarian, but I will eat meat
when we're abroad if it's a local delicacy. And local

(22:02):
delicacy is a bit of a stretch. I mean, last
time I was seeing Cambodia. I ate a rat from
the side of the road because there was a stall
selling cooked rat and I was like, well, well, it
was busy. There were loads of people there, so I
was like.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Well, why not can I.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
Get one of these? And everyone was looking at me
and I was pointed and I was like how much
and they were like two dollars or whatever. I was like,
two dollars. There's a lot of meat on that, bad boy. Yeah,
let's get that down. So I'm just sitting there at
the rat store eating rat and to the locals delight,
as you can imagine. So she was like, I need
a photo of you eating that. So she took a
photo of me in that, and then there's just I

(22:37):
don't know, five or ten people being like can we
take a photo?

Speaker 2 (22:41):
I was like yeah, some dreadlocked white dude here.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
And then there's people other people like can we get
in the photo?

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Was like, yeah, suddenly you're a tourist attraction.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah, but two dollars, yeah, you can pay for my
rat delicious?

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Actually yeah, I don't know. I had something in Tunisia
years ago. I don't want to was and from this
like street, it's similar street vendor. Think guys given out
and I don't know how much CASTS gave him. I
know I've got some change to give you. A thing
on a stick and I ate it and I got
around the claws. I don't know what it was to
this day.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
That's so good.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, and I wanted off, and oddly enough no one
else say you there.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah. So if I saw random meat on skewers and
there wasn't any locals eating.

Speaker 2 (23:23):
Yet it was outside one of the hubbly bubbly shops,
they were all this guy rolled up, there was a
few other people have you know, it's safe when the
locals really.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Exactly, but that's stuff you want to try, yes, exactly.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
I don't want to go into the tourist ship. You
always know the tour shops that are at the signs
that you want to eat locals, the locals drink. I
just want to try it all.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
A guinea pig in Ecuador.

Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah, that was banging, to be fair, what I've heard
about the different foods that we look at. You know,
you go in the pet shop, you look at that,
what you taste like.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
The thing is because I think this a lot. This
person that goes I can't what how what does that
taste like? Yeah? Going to be good. I don't know
if most people think like that. I think most people
think I'm a weird eye. If I'm glad to know
that you also have this opinion, because I kind of
needs me. Whatever it's from.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I do the same with all sorts of ship. I
see something growing on the tree.

Speaker 1 (24:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, it's a.

Speaker 2 (24:20):
Very just at the top of the road in the
school run with the kids.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
Yeah, I'm always a bit sketched out. Yeah, yeah, okay, that's.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Look at these things and anything bright. These are fairly bright.
I'm sure Bush Tucker Man said, don't fucking eat it
if it's right?

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Yeah, yeah, mate, would you this is a conversation.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Probably we should probably edit this well into a like
just a bonus show.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Maybe we need to start food podcast.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
I think we just need to start the Timm and
Steve podcast, because I'm sure ninety percent the people have
turned off at this point. Going up some point, these
decads are going to talk about motorbikes. Yeah, and there's
other people that this in their rooted.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
New listeners are like that. This is why we don't
get any new listeners. Numbers are very sticky people starting
absolutely not, and then the people that are hanging about
clearly like this, Yeah, that's okay.

Speaker 2 (25:12):
We are probably the embodiment of clickbaity motor GP. What
would you eat?

Speaker 1 (25:19):
And then we're twenty five minutes in and we've barely
talked about motorbikes.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
At this point, we should probably put a disclaimer out
there that we do talk about motorbikes. We are passionate
about motor GP, and I'm probably gonna have to talk
to him into putting a big bit in the notes
that we do talk bang on a long time of that.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
Yeah, we do. But this is talk about GP with
a couple of beers, like we were in the pub.
We're around the pub. Chet, We're going to have to
go to the bar and get another beer.

Speaker 2 (25:45):
I've literally sucked this one down, mate, and I've got
one more left.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, well it does what.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
It doesn't help us. We've recorded the Patreon show. Yeah,
we are pretty loose lipped at them. And you got
me on my favorite subject, which.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Is food, which does bring me to my question. Asked
a few people this over the last few days, and
everyone's answers have surprised me. If you had the opportunity. Now,
this isn't actually illegal either, I have learned. I did
look this up and it's very rarely country and the
countries in the world that this is illegal, but there's
very few of them, and it's not illegal here. But

(26:18):
if you could do so with full consent and knowing
that no one was actually harmed more than they needed
to be, but they were consentually harmed in the process,
would you eat human meat?

Speaker 2 (26:28):
No Ah?

Speaker 1 (26:30):
See, I really thought you weren't going to surprise me there,
but you everyone has said no. I think I might
be the only idiot that has gone like absolutely not
even curious.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
No.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
Wow, I.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Have this weird thing in my head. The first thing
that pops into my brain is, yeah, the universal sign
across the table of do you want to be I'll
finish up the other Aussie finest and might as well
polish him off. I have this this thing in my head.

(27:06):
The first thing that pops in there is if I
can understand what it's saying, I can't eat it because
when I'm coming at you with a carving knife.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
No, but I'm consenting to this. This has all been
taken away from Like if I've said to you. You
can have a bit of mark, whatever part of my
body you want to, you can have a bit of it.
It's fine. We're going to move it under general anesthetic.
I'm not going to be upset about it.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Say that something just popped in there and okay, I'll
say that.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Okay, that's probably for the best. This is being recorded,
this will go out to the internet. You control yourself, Steve. Oh,
I just absolutely I'd be going for it, mate, absolutely
be going for trying.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
No, no, there's something of a going to live with
me forever.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I can't say, okay, well, while Steve brings himself back,
let's move it to mo GP, because I think this
might have gone too far. Yeah, so Steve really has
lost it over there. Now this is good.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I had two things in my head then. I don't
know if I could say.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
You're just gonna tea. Maybe you write those down and
you can decide at a later date whether you think
that's Internet appropriate.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
I don't know. I've had sushi while it's been alive.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
See that's another interesting quandary, eating things that are alive,
because that doesn't feel okay.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
I have had I did well in my old job
of fucking me. How long is this tangent going on?
We're gonna have to release this as a separate show.

Speaker 1 (28:45):
Maybe brought it back to motor GP then for a second,
but it's gone off again.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Because we're half cut and.

Speaker 1 (28:51):
We didn't even get into the circuit this time.

Speaker 2 (28:53):
We're there.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
We pulled up, we were along the motorway, we were
almost there, and then I went, now, let's pop into
McDonald's weekly before we go.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Yeah, pens it down. But obviously other things happen. In
my last job, at a conference, as a team bonding exercise,
we did a bush tucker trial. Oh okay, yeah, I
was part of that bush.

Speaker 1 (29:14):
And not the food. I assume. Yeah, you were the food.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
I was not the food. Okay, okay, So yeah, I
don't know what it was, but I had to chase it. Oh,
I got it. So I lifted up the plate and
it may have been line. I'm pretty sure it's like
a cricket or something.

Speaker 1 (29:28):
Oh God, eating a live cricket. There's a reason they
don't do this. I'm a celebrity anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Yeah, yeah, so, yeah, I've eaten a lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:35):
Well, yeah, I mean, I'm sure I have in my life.
But it's not something I would actively look for doing.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
No, I'd have to cook it. Now.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
This was Oh, I don't even care if it's cooked,
as long as it's dead.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Well, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
Everything's better cooked, isn't it generally? I What did I
eat in France? What's the raw beef dish?

Speaker 2 (29:58):
Oh? Shit, I should so it used to be a chef.
Fuck me.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Google raw beef. Oh my god, dish A steak tatar.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
That's a steak tatar.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Yeah, so I ate steak tatar. And actually it's all right.
I didn't dislike it until I hit the raw egg
on top.

Speaker 2 (30:22):
Affer Yeah. Yeah, steaked tatar with fix sauce. I like
a fix sauce sauce, yeah, mate, that is That is
something else that really is good. Raw egg has its
purpose and a little bit of butter with it.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
I don't think egg has a purpose.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Whip it up a little bit of raw egg and
line juice. Oh, so take it down.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
That almost starts to cook the egg anything.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Yeah, and you've got to get it down there quick.
It's like a one shot. It's like a protein shot.
And Jester was not good.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
I'm more thinking that you can't describe something as okay,
if you've got to get it down quick. Nothing of
allies appeared. Oh yeah, it's delicious. Don't linger on it though,
You've just got to get it down. Oh no, that's right. Okay,
So most of cycle Steve, and let's bring it back.
We're half an hour in. Let's talk Valencia test.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
Let's go for it.

Speaker 1 (31:18):
There wasn't actually all that much to see at the test.
There never is, no exactly, there wasn't that much obvious
being tested. Yamaha. They've already run their V four, so
we kind of it wasn't quite as exciting as it
would have been that, you know, had their VFA just
had its debut outing. There's also the engine freeze, and
twenty twenty six is the final year of the current regulations.

(31:41):
So the new developments on sharing Valencia were iterative at best.
There were minimum Yeah, and that is often the case
at Valencia to be fair, like you say, in recent years,
the storylines have been focused more on riders rather than
on machines. The manufacturers tend not to bring their most
obvious developments to the test for a couple of reasons. Firstly,
they haven't had a winter to work on their next

(32:03):
GM protypes. And secondly, even if they have got something
in the works, they don't want to show their hand
and that would allow all of the other manufacturers an
entire winter to go Fuck that new arrow is a
good idea. We should work on that for the next test.

Speaker 2 (32:17):
Yeah. This is the very subtle test, Yeah, exactly, a
little bit this testing light. Yeah, yeah, this is the introduction,
the warm up, the build up. I like this one though,
because it gives the focus on like the rookies that
are coming in. You get to see their excitement. Yeah,
there were some really nice shots the rookies coming in.

(32:37):
There's one shot I really liked, and that was actually
Johey mar Team putting his eighty nine back on his bike.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
That was cool. You spoke about that in the last year. Actually, yeah,
that's really like that kind of just a nice bit
of pr.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
Yeah, it was just love it just him and his
girlfriend in the bike. Yeah, and he's just putting his
on there. But when we get the full coverage of it,
you get to see a little bit of behind the
scenes that we don't get to see. You know, we
sit at home and we always talk about it. I'm
banging on it quite about it quite a bit. We
get to see what race directions show us. But I

(33:09):
remember sitting back in it must have been twenty seventeen
and all the riders were just hanging out in the
back of the panic with their friends, family mechanics of people,
and you've got to see that kind of family circus.
And we do talk to people who are quite often
in the paddock and they talk about all their friends
and we talk. It's a bigger thing than we get
to see.

Speaker 1 (33:27):
Yeah, absolutely, And what I like about it is as well,
when there's a lot of dead air, which there is
a lot always, is that the commentary teams, if it
is a commentary team one which we have seen in
the past, doesn't happen now. No, they're chatting, and you know,
they've got great stories that they will share and great
hair notes that they're sharing, and they'll get like team
bosses and other people in to come and chat for

(33:49):
half an hour or whatever. But it's a bit like
watching a really delayed wet race, like that's race got
canceled down where they were on air and fucking making
it up as you go. But you great anecdotes and
great stories and some really nice insight to what's happening
in the motive exactly.

Speaker 2 (34:05):
These are the voids that get filled and the answers
you get. It's just to me, it's just a nice
thing to see. It's a bit more personal. You know,
we see the machine operate on a weekend, you know,
we see everyone in race mode, and every now and
again you get a little snippet in the garage and
you don't know who this person is, but suddenly you
get to see more when it's like this, And often

(34:28):
I find the downtime more fascinating in the towns. When
the guys are on tracks, they're not pushing the hardest,
they're not racing, they're testing, and often, like on a Friday,
there's a big delay on Saturday. On this one, you
don't see that much, but it gives you an insight
behind the scenes. It's kind of opens it up and

(34:49):
makes it feel a bit more human. I'm all on
board for that.

Speaker 1 (34:53):
Yeah, absolutely, And it's just kind of like it's not
even the more human, it's just kind of hearing the
stories and hearing things that people don't get time to
talk about over a normal race weekend. It's kind of
just there's more of a background, have more depth to
the sport, more context. Yeah, I often think about and
I think about this quite a lot, actually weird amount.

(35:13):
Probably when we spoke to Fabbie or Alberti from else
he was the Happiness Man and actually I saw him
in Thailand at the start of this season launch. He's
still there, still working for ye. He was a really nice,
really lovely guy. But when he telds that story where
he got robbed in his van and he had a

(35:33):
mulchipea bike in the back with millions and they just
took his laptop because you know what was in there, Like,
that's an amazing ancdo that I've never heard anywhere except
when he told it to us. And everyone that works
in the sport has got these really human stories that
are something that there's never time to tell and there's

(35:54):
never that it never comes across, but it just adds
so much depth when you do hear them.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
Yeah, exactly exactly. We spoke to what they have Gavin
emmittt the commentary on TNT Sport again, fantastic chapter and
he's telling us all this stuff that's going on on
the sea. You know, it's really nice to talk to
and it's just these things we don't get to hear.
There's so much more to it than what the one

(36:19):
two percent that we see. Yeah, these guys spend so
much time together, they travel together, they've actually lived together
for ten months of the year. Yeah, and there's so
much more going on, And so that is why I
like to you know, I sit and watch nearly all
of it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, And it's that kind of thing. It's lovely to
just have it on the background as well, because it
kind of like it feels like listen to a podcast.
You can do so many other things while it's happening.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
Yeah, and suddenly you hear something whacking you do with
the iron in and suddenly you whacking your hear back,
what's happening?

Speaker 1 (36:47):
What's happening? But then you're like, oh, nothing's happening on track.
It's literally just what they're talking about.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Yeah, I find it absolutely fascinating. If they would sell tickets,
I would literally go and sit there all the time,
really would, and I honestly think there'll be many more
people that would and would fill the grounds then.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah. But then then that's the joy of isn't it.
That's why we went to see what was what's his
face total when he spoke and did some music for
the night. Yeah, and we've been to see John McGuinness
and when you kind of you just hear them talking
about the sport, you just get that insight to it
that is just fantastic And that's kind of the same

(37:22):
thing you'd get without testing dead air time. Yes, but
there were some things at this test that were being
done so trillier kind of the They had the most
obvious things that they were testing, and it was mainly
obvious thanks ironically to this amazing camo livery that they used,

(37:44):
which was designed to hide the fairing and arrow updates
because thanks to that camera design it did what it's
supposed to do. You take photos of that, but you
can't work out. But we do know they were testing
a very noticeably different front air and the side fairings
have really been slimmed down to reduce the drag on
the straits. You remember when like a few years ago,

(38:07):
a brilliant came out with that really big boxy side arrow.
It was the ground effect arrow, but into the corners
that then everyone went wow, fuck, look at what they're
doing in the corners, and everyone copied it. For a while, yeah,
and used it. Well, they did use it for a while,
but then they started slimming down, and everyone else has
started slimming down. It was this area that existed for
a short while, but now has been slimmed down again

(38:29):
because yeah, it gave great performance in the corners, but
it was so draggy on the straits and they were
losing a lot of time there. So it's kind of
fine in the middle ground, which is the joy of
motorcycle ar Row. It's much more complicated than aerow and
a car, which is why I like Forming one era.
Everyone's like it's just the cutting edge of aerodynamics, which
kind but it's a really easy. It's always a flat plane.

(38:50):
It's not moving very much. It might you know obviously
this movie when they go around the corners, but they're
moving a.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Few mill a couple of degrees. These guys are going
sixty four degrees and each.

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Story exactly that.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
Yeah, if a Formula one car is moving a few
centimeters when they go around the corner, then that's going
to blow the minds of every aerodynalysis. Like that's not
supposed to be happening, and something has gone wrong with
that car if that's happening. But like Mochipiero is complicated
as fuck may which is maybe why we're only just
getting to this point in Moji Piero that we are
now like as a CFD computational flow analys and all

(39:23):
the computing power is worse now. It's getting like this
is a thing they throw around in Formula One all
the time, so it's a very easy thing there.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Did two people get disqualified.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
Yes, but not because of the very dynamics they much.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Do you want to talk about it?

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Obviously I really want to talk about it, but I point, yeah, exactly.
It does make it a very interesting title battle going
into the next I've started in two rounds. You have
started me now, I'm sure. Yeah, but there's a twenty
four points between the top three drivers. Yeah, it's going
to be tight. It's a sprint weekend. The sprint race
has just happened. I don't know what's happened. I'm going
to watch as soon as I got back tonight on tonight.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
Just a fine round.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
No, So this is the penomal round sprint race and
they've gone pre tonight, prey week tomorrow. Sprint race has
just happened.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
Where are they now?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
They are today in Qatar and Vegas. Last time out
in Vegas, last time out and they finished in Abby Dabbi.

Speaker 2 (40:17):
Okay, okay, but.

Speaker 1 (40:19):
That will be finished next weekend to fine around. But
yeah next week, Yeah, it's tight. Maximus happen might do
it mate, which is going to be absolutely because it's
a real title. Back, three guys could go into this
final round fighting for a title.

Speaker 2 (40:32):
What did the two get to squalify for? I'm sorry people, Well,
if you make it through this show right in, we'll
send you all a sticker, thank you.

Speaker 1 (40:43):
They've got plank were so underneath the Formula one car
is the deflector bit. So there's a plank underneath the
Formula one car that is made of wood. Would would
It's got metal bits on it, which is why when
you see them sparking down the streets vicially in a
night race. Is the metal that's sparking, But most of
the plank is would. Surely it's deliberately would for this

(41:06):
reason though, so that they can measure the wear on it.

Speaker 2 (41:09):
It made a bowl.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
It's not bols. No, I don't know what the wood is.
But so the point is that a Formula one car
can only run so low.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Yeah, I was going say, they've got to have certain heights.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Yeah, exactly, So there's and it's regulate. They would run
lower if they could, but the regulations so they can
only run so low if they wear too much of
the plank by hitting the floor, which it will do
because they're running so low that their cars are bottoming
out all of the time. But they can't botm out
too much because they're running too low if they do that.
So the plank wore down too much on both of

(41:42):
the McLaren cars because they were bottling out too much. Interestingly,
it looks like they set up their aerodynamics too conservatively
not to run too low. But this caused a phenomenon
in current MOTI current Formula one rigs called porpoising, where
the car bounces on the streets and it's up and
down times.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
The second cavitation.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
But yeah, it's pretty wild. When these new REGs appeared,
it was like dangerous the amount of pauperising was happening.
But they kind of managed to dial this out through
set up. So the McLaren's thought they might run too low.
They changed their aerodynamics a little bit, so they wouldn't
run so low. But this caused this porpoising effect, which
meant they were botting out too much, which meant that
even though probably over the lap, they were actually running

(42:24):
most of the time within the tolerances. When they were
going really fast, they were hitting the ground a lot.
It wore the plank down. I think they were out
by fractions of a millimeter. I think one of them
was by point two of a mill They wore too
much of this wooden plank down, so they got to squalified.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
No fair enough.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
And it's kind of that thing like did it have
any performance advantage? Probably not. It's a bit like we
saw Mammal Gonzales get disqualified for running legal software that
probably actually made no difference whatsoever. Right, So that's what
they got squalified for. And yeah, that means that now
there's three guys that are within twenty four points at least.

Speaker 2 (43:03):
It makes it interesting.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
It makes it really interesting, and it does mean the
max for staff and might be the first guy ever
to come back from one hundred point deficit to win
the title.

Speaker 2 (43:10):
Is that far behind? Okay, yeah he was really.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
Far behind for all, But yeah, it's going to be exciting.
I don't know what's happened in the sim race, and
by the time this goes out, the Grand Prix will
have happened as well, So this fuck knows what's going
to happen. Mate. Landon Norris has still got a twenty
four point lead. The other two Oscaryastre Maxi Stappened are
twenty four points behind him. But even the fact that
Max for Staffen is there, Mate is wild. He's putting

(43:32):
Mark Marquez this year. He's dragged his red Bull into
places it does not deserve.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
To be fair enough. I might have to give that
a look. Yeah, so I looked up your skid block.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Oh yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
It was originally made from jabb rock. Absolutely, it's a
type of wood lens over would, but apparently more modern
practice is kind of a lamelate. Oh lamelot. It was
originally back in the day made from jabrock wood up
to ten mil thick and is now made from a

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glass to a filled resin or a composite material.

Speaker 1 (44:10):
Oh interesting, I thought it was still would.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
No, apparently it's changed. As like you said, the purpose
is to enforce a minimum a ride hip by four
by being forced to have a plank that touches the track,
which is insane to me. The fact that they touched
the track. Cars cannot run so low that the gain
an unfair aerodynamic advantage or become dangerously unstable. So the

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material material was historically made of jabrock, a layered beechwood material.
To ensure consistent wear rate, one f one car is
used a more durable composite through the concept of a plank.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
Remains okay, okay, because it still looks like wood. When
you see one car, it still looks like wood. Okay,
I didn't it changed, but.

Speaker 2 (44:55):
Okay, Yeah, so it sounds like it was made out
of jabb rock, but it was then layered, yeah, okay,
to make like a I guess like a plywood. Yeah,
it sounds like they say using composite, which makes sense.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
Which I'm actually lighter. It won't because it's more durable
because it would have to wear at the same time. Yea.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
It says it could be up to ten mils thick.
So the function when the cars ever donate forced to
push it down the plate. The plank contacts with the track,
preventing the floor from getting closer to the ground, which.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Is also a funny thing. They're talking about over instability,
but that's kind of a bit of a misnomer here
because the lower the a Formula one car is this
generation of Formula one cars being ground effect cars, so
they have these ventury tunnels under the car, which is
what they're pretty weren't relying on for their exactly. So
it's the same process here, but the closer to the

(45:44):
ground that is, the more effective it is, the more
it sticks to the ground, and the more grip you
get from that. So they really in an ideal world,
they'd be running fractures of a millimeter away from the
surface if the surface was smooth, Yeah, but no racetrack
exactly that. Yeah, Yeah, and have affections too low, you
get this problem where you hit a bump, the car

(46:07):
rises up fractionally and that causes this moment of stalling.
Is what's got aerodynamic stalling, which means you've lost all
of your aerodynamics from the grind. Yeah, and then you've
got nothing. So you're blasting around a corner at a hundred,
one hundred and twenty hundred and thirty miles an hour,
you're stuck to the floor. Everything feels great, you can
keep going. The moment you lose that ground effect. You've

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got nothing. Yeah, and people argue this is what killed
out and Celler.

Speaker 2 (46:33):
Then reading there, so where's it? So here safety The
skid block was introduced after the nineteen ninety four San
Marino Grand Prix. Yeah, to improve car safety regulation. The
plank has a specific thickness requirement, typically starting at ten
millimeter and a maximum way limit. Teams can face disqualification

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if the plank is worn down beyond the specific amount
after a race. And then, like you said about the sparks,
it's just coming off for what Wiki says the sparks
scene under the F one cars are often from titanium
plates that are teams to createdly placing the planks produced
where on the plank surface itself was still creating sparks.
So they're also a visual part.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Yes, it looks cool under.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I was going to say, yeah, I've seen pictures of this,
and like there's that one famous shot where that car
picked up the manhole cover at Vegas and just obliterated everything.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
That course, I think it's one point six million in damage.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
But then you see it all the time, you see
it down the streets where they skip over it, and
I always thought it was just the ground effect in
the bottom of the car. Did you see, like when
the car unfortunately crashes and flips, you do see that
solid sheet beneath. I figured that was just one solid
aerodynamic plate.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
For performance. Get rid of that.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Interesting. I figured it was just the bottom of the
car because it was flat. It was just hugging down.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Yeah, and we're also talking if you're stalking about being flat,
that would be an older car rather than these current
red ones. You've got like enough to Yeah, it took
a long time before we saw any of these because
obviously teams were keeping their ventory tunnels very hidden. But
there was one race I think it was in Monaco,
where one of the cars crashed and they immediately like
Monaco is really good, like considering it's a street circuit

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when people crash, the cranes everywhere, so they can just
pick the cars up and move them. Yeah, but it
was the one I think it was such a Peris's car.
They picked it up and then all of the photographers
were like, fuck, I had this moment of your snapping
the underside of a car which no one had ever
seen outside of these teams. So obviously those photos were
worth a ship.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
You're a photographer, you're on a winner there quite that's interesting, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
But that's the kind of that's the mad Era ANX.
So you can get away with when you're on a flat.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
Platform, if you've got to flat services.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
But when you get it onto the bike.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah, you look at the force, isn't the genomics exactly?

Speaker 1 (49:03):
Yeah, pretty different, And this is why we've seen the
experimentation with kind of that a Prillier. Yeah, the side
the fairing, they're having these cool effects, but really really
big and boxy, and then he's now being slimmed down
because the advantage you gained from that in the corners
isn't worth a trailer for on the straits. Interesting, but
back to a Prillier eventually. Yeah, Joe Martin was able

(49:29):
to run the new chassis that the other A Prillia
riders have been using for this latter part of the
season anyway, too great effect, as we've seen from Bozeki
and from Ralphernandez. Yeah, and interestingly he was also working
on ergonomic changes. He's written so little in twenty twenty five.
He's still working on things that should have been sorted
out in the first few races.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
Of the years, I say, doesn't it We see these
shots like the new guys going across to new teams,
new manufacturers, whatever, different classes. Yeah, guys you know, hopping
on the world superbikes who just left the paddock and
they're getting their bike. Darling. He needs to he needs
to clip ones dropped a little bit. You need the
seat going back a little bit.

Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, a centimeter, Yeah exactly. But that's still stuff though,
having to work.

Speaker 2 (50:14):
I saw a shot the other the other day of
whose bike was It was a Yamaha somewhere and they
literally had a seat pad and he was on the bike.
Isn't there back a bit more? And they literally piled
it off, put it back a bit more. Then he's happy.
But that's shit they're still doing at the end of
the season.

Speaker 1 (50:29):
Which is wild, But that doesn't it how little juhe
Martin has been.

Speaker 2 (50:33):
On that machine. That's just nuts, just nuts.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
And Ralph Fernandez capped off his impressive end to the
twenty twenty five season by topping the test as well.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
Good lad, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
Quite, although don't read too much into a test, no,
but it's a nice sign off considering how he season
ended anyway, So nice sign it wasn't me, Well, yeah,
quite was Math out the test? He was at the
final race of the year, wasn't he.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Yeah he is the test? Did he not? Let me
have a.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Quick look and we will come back to MAV because
there is news about MAV. There is really the only
news we have.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
Yeah, the one little snippet lesson Valencia Test.

Speaker 1 (51:17):
Let's have a quick look. Math math math mad. Yes,
he was a finished sixth in the test. Fair enough, blessing,
which is probably better than his overall average for the season.
So Math doing math things.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
He's doing math things. He's going to be at the
point end somewhere.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
Yeah, quite blessing, right, Steve. This has very been a
very tangent field show so far. So let's take a
quick break and when we come back, we will talk
about the other manufacturers involved in the test. Let's do it, buddy,
good stuff. So guys, bear with us for just one
moment and we will be right back with you and

(52:06):
we are back. Thank you for being with us. Blads
are empty, beers are full. We've just spent an hour
and a half put in the world to rights recording.
It's become a much later night than expected. This show
is already longer than expected thanks to our talk of
various human meat consumption.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
We didn't think you needed that. Oh, don't even describe it.
Chat deep, deep, deep and meaningful.

Speaker 1 (52:34):
Quite but that's what happens when there's a lot of
beers flowing. So but we are back now we will
carry on talking Moto GP. We covered a prillier. Let's
do Yamaha. Oh yes, now let's face with Yamaha. This
story here is all about top rack and how he's
going to adapt to this Moto GP bike. And from

(52:56):
the small sample size we've seen so far, things are
looking good.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
Yes they are.

Speaker 1 (53:01):
This wasn't actually his first time riding the Yamaha M one,
and not even his first time riding the V four
and one, as he'd done some laps in private testing
prior to the Venezia finale. So he's actually done more
laps on this bike than any of the current full
time MOGP riders.

Speaker 2 (53:17):
That's nuts. That's what happens when you're going to jump across.
They've got to tease him somehow.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Quite so, they've got to get him on there. And
it's worth noting that you know he yes, so I
don't know his top times here. He did finish as
the second Yamaha. Yes, he was only seven tenths back
from Fabio Couaateraro, and that's a really impressive debut. That's
good regardless of whether he'd done a few extra laps

(53:43):
of testing on this machine. This is still a brand
new paddock, a brand new machine, brand new tires. There's
still a lot for him to be learning.

Speaker 2 (53:51):
And we're comparing in there to a seasoned motor GP rider.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
That's all world champion. Yeah so, and to a guy
that we look at and go, maybe he's the second best.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
Rider on the grid right now, Yeah, exactly. So to
be only seven tents off way from that is really impressive.

Speaker 1 (54:05):
Yeah quite. It's also worth noting he did do consecutive
soft tire runs where some of the other Yamaha riders
didn't do any. But still, this is a really good
start to life in motor GP. For top Rack. We
haven't actually heard from him yet because he is still
contracted to BMW and is unable to talk to media
until that contract expires in twenty twenty six. I assume
it will be the first of January, like most of time, I.

Speaker 2 (54:27):
Think it is. Yeah, so as soon as that happens,
it's going to explode. Yeah, it makes sense. He's still
in the contract. And we've seen this before where people
have jumped manufacturers and they have to keep stump.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (54:38):
We always know whill woll thing. Yeah, we all know
who they are become. They come out in the completely
jet black letters. Yeah, from the factory.

Speaker 1 (54:46):
Yeah. He had some pretty cool, jazzy like Turkish flags.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
Yeah. He had a really nice red livery. Yeah, that
was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
It was quite a painful clash though with the just
blue Yamaha bike.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
But yeah, but it stood out, it was not Yes,
but yeah, so far look goodly pulled a few stoppies,
all things are looking good.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
Yeah, absolutely, as far as the B four goes. Honestly,
the times comparing it to any other biker irrelevant right now.
It's very early iteration. It can be more interesting come
of the later tests.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yeah. I did hear some people talking, well, that's so
far off. You're like, well, yeah, of course it's going
to be as a brand new boy.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
You can't compare, you know, you can't hop into something
spanking too inspect it to just suddenly be as good
as the last thing.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
Quite and you know, if it's still this far off
come the first few rounds of next year, that's not
going to be a surprise. It's just going to be
how that develops throughout the exactly.

Speaker 2 (55:41):
It's gonna be the story of development of progression next year. Yeah,
before the big rule change. Quite So it's going to
be an interesting one.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
Yes for d Catti. Dakati has a new era on
display and a very happy Peco bag Nile, which is
something we've not seen a lot of this year.

Speaker 2 (55:57):
No, a very jovial Pecko. Yeah, he seemed really up.
But I don't know whether it was just the fact
that that season was over.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
I think that's.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
He's literally just gone and think, fuck yeah, quite clocked
out on Friday afternoon and suddenly he's been down the pub. Yes,
a fantastic time at the awards and just chilled.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
Yeah, exactly. He said that he did have a good
feeling on the bike and that it had much better
corner entry than he's been experiencing experiencing all year. But
let's face it, Pecko has been saying the same thing
for much of the year and still falling apart on
race day. So yeah, okay, I think, well until we
see what Peco can do next year and actually in

(56:40):
race situations, and we're gonna have to be halfway through
next year before we can really make a true assessment here.
I think everything Peco says you have to take the
pinch soul right now.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
I think at this point, Yeah, he'said such a torrid
season that nearly anything that's better is going to be
good in comparison to what he's had. So that's going
to lift your mood.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Yeah, quite.

Speaker 2 (57:01):
Plus the fact, like say he's had a night off,
they've been to the award, they've probably let their hair
down a bit, the season's over, the pressures off, there's
a lot of positives.

Speaker 1 (57:10):
Yeah, exactly. He's getting the Christmas decorations out of the
lofty he's saving at your one now.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
Oh yeah, yeah. There's been a lot of posts on
social media guys, put the Christmas trees on. It's bloody November.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
I'm down mate. You were literally talking about putting yours up.
I was about to say tomorrow, but looking at the
clock right now today.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Today, yeah, I can't say too much. But then I
have two young gentlemen twisted my ear. Yeah, that's fair,
literally to put the decorations up and coming home with
more remorseious every day.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
Yeah, it's got some dogs he needs to impress with
these Christmas decorations. Oh mate, I doesn't talk about this.
I cannot wait to see the social media posts for
what mature riders are getting their pets for Christmas. It's
going to be something pretty good.

Speaker 2 (57:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:54):
Their pets present value is going to be higher than
any of the presents we're buying anyone this year.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Oh god, yeah, what were Peco by Turbo? I don't know.

Speaker 1 (58:04):
He's going to have a really nice Christmas dinner that
we're going to look at and be like, oh my god.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
Yeah, they're Yeah, they're going to be very sport dogs.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
I like the Paddlect dogs. I like the fact that
when you see the Paddlect dogs, they all have their
own passes.

Speaker 1 (58:19):
I've never noticed that before.

Speaker 2 (58:22):
I didn't notice it untill I think it was the
last round and I mentioned to someone and I'm like, yeah,
they always have passes.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
That's fantastic, that's really good.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
Yeah, there's a picture. I forget whose dog it was.
I think it was Turbo, Peco's dog and a little
sausage dog. Yeah, yeah, okay, he's got sausage I think
Alex Markeo has got two sausage dogs.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
What are sausage dogs? The dogs have choice from riders.
I don't know, because you kind of think, you're like, oh,
they're really strong, manly men.

Speaker 2 (58:47):
They're going to be racing greyhounds or something for the.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Speed greyhounds or like you wouldn't be surprised Japanese akitas
like yeah, yeah, it's something with a bit of but
maybe that's the point. Maybe they'll go the other way
for that reason. Everyone needs a little lap dog.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
Yeah, it's a little bit of fuzzy douge.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Yeah. I wouldn't mind a little sausage dog.

Speaker 2 (59:05):
I wouldn't mind it a little. Just be fair. Next door,
I got a sausage dog and he's cool. Yeah, Murphy
is pretty cool. He comes around every now and again.
Just nice, throw over the fence. Actually have a.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Dog, all right, Okay, brilliant comes in and.

Speaker 2 (59:19):
Makes himself at home.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Yeah, sleeps on sofa and it just appears like hotel.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
That's excellent. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
Literally, it was just really angry because he's so small
he can't see over the fence. Yeah, he barks until
we pick him up. Committed morve. He comes around. He
just got to sleep on sofa and this is great.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Oh that's quite cute.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Yeah, boys love him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
I like a big dog, but I also really like
a little dog.

Speaker 2 (59:44):
I don't mind when it comes to dogs. I just
like dogs. That's so cool.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Yeah, I kind of I just like pets mate or
a dog. I'm happy either way. I'm a bit for
me personally. I had a lot of cats growing up,
and every time one of them died, usually hit by
a car. And that is my luck with my cats.
I got so upset that I kind of have this
thing now where I'm like, I can't deal with that
trauma in my life. I don't know, I don't need
a pet anymore. And I said this really the other day,

(01:00:08):
She's like, you know, we will be getting a cat
at some point. I was like, that's fine, but it's
not my cat.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
And kats and Cherie's family are bald and expensive and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Sister's cats are Mom's cats are, on the other hand,
are just classic cats. I mean, the best cat at
the moment, Harry Baby, which is she weird story with
this cat off on a tangent again. Here we go.
So she's one of my favorite cats ever. She's lovely.
She's so lovely, she's bragged all, so very pliable. You
just pick her up and she's like okay, and then

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she's just very happy to be picked up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
A man.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
She loves people. She was just if there's anyone sitting down,
she'll sit on them, and she'll find the flattest bit
of you. She can so says, if you're laying down,
she'll sit on you. If everyone's sitting, she'll find the
person with the flattest legs. She just loves flat things.
But she turned up one day in one of this
is going to be convoluted in one of Shari's sisters,
boyfriend's friends mum's houses. She just appeared to This cat

(01:01:07):
just appeared in the garden and she was really friendly
and lovely in the garden. But this woman already had
six cats. I can't have another cat. What's this cat doing?
And this cat lived in a garden for two weeks.
It was the middle of winter, so she's living out
there in the stone stuff. And this one was like,
I can't have another cat, but I can't let this
cat live here. So then there was this bit of
a call out and then the entry's mum was like,
I'll take the cat. So she came and moved in

(01:01:27):
and we got a check from market chips, no marcrochips
or anything. But she was so lovely. She had to
have a little bit of working on her teeth and stuff,
and she's just become the loveliest cat, just so so lovely,
and we're kind of like, how was this a feral cat?
This doesn't make any sense. Where did she come from?
And we've never found out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:43):
Somewhere in the world. There's very upset old lady.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Yes, well I wonder if it was a little old
lady that died or something. Probably yeah, And she's just
this beautiful, long haired tortoshell cat. She's so lovely and
she's now she's just no one knows how old she is.
The vets like when we when she turned up, like
she could be seven, she could be fourteen. Who knows.
It was like ten years ago, so she probably wasn't fourteen.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
Then, fucking angent.

Speaker 1 (01:02:06):
Yeah quite, but she's getting pretty old now. But she's
just lovely. But when she dies, that'll be the that'll
be a heartbroke. That will be the final nail in
the coffin of me having pets. Mate, I can't deal
with it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:18):
I grew up on a farm, so I got used
to the whole process fairly early.

Speaker 1 (01:02:22):
That's fair. And I'm you know what I'm not against.
We've had many discussions that I'm not against eating meat
and having animals that you are dying and stuff. That's fine.
I just bond with things too easily.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
Yeah, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I had for a real hard time letting go.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
I'm the same. We've got a bloody house males hamster
thing and.

Speaker 1 (01:02:41):
She's cool and she's still kicking about. We didn't think
she was going to be kicking about still, no.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
No way, went and got the only hamster with a
deformed chin to a teeth grow like fucking stupid angles. Yeah,
we have to say the door. We thought we'd have
to take to the dentist every other week to get
a teeth trimmed, and as it turns out, it's not
been the case. Yeah, is she still here? The vet sold?
Its like fucking you know you're gonna have to do
her a favor and put her down because she had
like war whole tusks. At one point I was like, Jesus, yeah,

(01:03:11):
I did think about that. She's got a fat butt,
she doesn't look like it.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
I never stayed down wind.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Oh yeah, never go down window. But no, she's here,
she's kicking about. We just might I have noticed one
toothday is getting pretty long. Okay, we might have to
get it drimmed before she gets Christmas Dinnern't that. She's
the most fucking spoiled house mouse I've ever known. Lives
on fresh fruit and vege and just yeah, she's learned
very early. If she sits next to the ends of a
breakfast time, she might get.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Some apple happy days.

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
And then I don't know, she just gets spoiled with treats.
There's some over there, a whole separate house of treats.

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
There's almost an entire section of your conservatory that's just
house mouse bits.

Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Yeah, yeah, there's all sorts over there, spoiled.

Speaker 1 (01:03:55):
Yeah, she's more looked after than iron mate.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
Literally that's more love than me.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
But back to do Cattie. I don't know how we
got Bulega was there obviously in replacing mar Marquez, and
he performed very well, finishing eighth overall, he was two
tense ahead of Pecos, two tents ahead of Peko. I've
written that down. I'm going to do check that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
No, I do believe Pecker was ahead of him.

Speaker 1 (01:04:19):
No, he was too tense ahead of Pecko.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
Damn it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
I've got the final thing here. And he said he
was feeling much more comfortable on a motor GP machine,
which is not only good for his upcoming role as
a majorv test rider. Yeah, so it must be doing
his chances of getting back into the MOTB paddock like
in twenty twenty seven a world of good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Yeah. The guys areligning himself very very nicely at the minute.

Speaker 1 (01:04:40):
Yeah. I'll tell you what, man, if he dominates well
Superbike next year, which all signs point to him doing. Yeah,
look to Catty, you're going to be hard pressed not
to move him across the my GP if he wants
to come.

Speaker 2 (01:04:49):
Yeah. Yeah, if there's a seat there. If Pecko has
another Torrist season, then it's completely open.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
He's an XBR forty six guy, isn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
So I think he moves away from the academy quite early. Okay, yeah,
because I think we're seeing this in the past. I
think Keelstino Vietti is another one where he's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
Still part of the academy. I think he's the last guy.
I think they've got a guy that's in like junior GP.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
But they've got a very young rider in there. But
I don't think there was definitely a chap who started
out in the VR forty six Academy but moved them
way from it quite early on. Maybe that was it
might have been bootlegger, Actually it wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
What's his finat obviously was booted out of the academy.

Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Yeah he got kicked when Yeah, that stupid incident.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
I think he got kicked for a fight in the garage,
not for any of his stupid leaning over and hitting
someone's brakes. Yeah, he got kicked out before he had
his stupid on track and.

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Soide maybe yes, yeah, yeah, she's skilled. No load of
uproar in one of the teams. Yeah, that's right. There's
somebody else, Sorry, I don't know. I have a feeling
there's someone else out there who started off in the
academy but then left quite early on, and it was
pretty well so I have to look it up.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
I think it's quite a few of them. He was
offered a rolling the Academy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
Man.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
He was in the Academy, Yeah, a while, but he's
been going into super bikes.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Next year, I think so. Yeah. Oddly enough, they just
had the one hundred kilometers whatever it is that Ross does. Yeah,
I can't remember what I know. Guy Martin was there,
but that was interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
Fuck me, guy, mine is always interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:06:20):
Just a lot of raised brows still remember that. Yeah,
living in for me. The look on Hodgson's face.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Mate, that's one of the best interviews on interviews.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
He's just off his nuts. But that's just standard guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:38):
Guy is solid, mate, he's Yeah, I'm looking forward to
seeing him on this leapt on here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Yes, yeah he has. I don't think they let him in.
He probably leveled the forest.

Speaker 1 (01:06:47):
It would be good though.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
Yeah, he'd make something just like carve it up and
just we've made this.

Speaker 1 (01:06:52):
What's his latest one? He was rebuilding a spitfire, wasn't He.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
Did the spit for a tank.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
He's on the travel showy.

Speaker 2 (01:07:01):
X and he did he recreated the Great Escape Jump. Yeah,
it's the loads and why is the big one of
the minute?

Speaker 1 (01:07:11):
Is it the spit fire?

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
At the moment, it might be the spitfire of the minute.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
Yeah, but what's that flight called where it's the split
fire of the hurricane and something else? The Queen something
Queen's flight.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
There there is a name for I can't think of
the life. There's just tangent number forty seven. Christ good
luck people. There's a price for anyone who makes it
to the end of this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:33):
Yeah, there is that.

Speaker 2 (01:07:35):
It's called a thank you the memorial flight, I think so, Yeah,
something like that where they fly him all together and
he's what is that spitfire hurricane?

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
There's something else as well. I think it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
It's not the Vulcan, is it the vulcan?

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
The vulcan was the vulcan of World War two plane?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Oh no, was the Lancaster.

Speaker 1 (01:08:01):
It was the Lancaster. Yes, fire the hurricane at the Lancaster.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
What's that called?

Speaker 1 (01:08:08):
This is a ridiculous both googling it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
This is the worst podcast ever. I'm so sorry people.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
First, Yeah, the Battle of Britain Memorial flight. So I've
seen that one time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:21):
That was good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Yeah, I saw at the same time I saw a
P fifty form fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:27):
Yeah, fucking sound incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
And I tell you what, anyone that told you. The
spit fires the most beautiful playe ever flown. The P
fifty four Mustang is just on another level. And the
noise mate, But there's big. They're all flying rolls Royce engines,
aren't they like?

Speaker 2 (01:08:44):
It's I just love engines. I think they are all engines.
It's just the sound. This is what it always going
about the sound of stuff. I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Speaking of the sound, I had to use a petrol
strimmer the other day, but I had to mix the
two stroke oil into it.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
What ratio did you do?

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Forty to one?

Speaker 2 (01:09:03):
What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
It's only there's two hundred and fifty sec engine?

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
No? What kind of strimmer using?

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Yet? Well? Quite it was a strimmer that was not
designed for the streammer Cable was in it, which just
tore itself apart and seconds. I was like, can I
have played for this? It was like, no, you can't
use the blade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:21):
The point in this two hundred and fifty are you
twenty five cc?

Speaker 1 (01:09:25):
Twenty five? Makes more sense when two hundred and fifty big?
It must have been twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Five because mine is twenty five cc. That's tiny? Yeah?
Must was it like a shoe box?

Speaker 1 (01:09:35):
Yeah? Yeah, it must have been.

Speaker 2 (01:09:38):
So I wrote mine one hundred to one.

Speaker 1 (01:09:40):
Oh wow, I did it on the ratio that the
instruction manual said. I wasn't just making it up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
I do one one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:09:46):
It's dunk like a race. It was so good.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yeah, you get some castrol and then you're like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:51):
I was like, oh this is nice and started up
and fuck me, I don't know, man, those engines they're
so finnicky. Everything's going the chokes gotta be in the
right place to move it accordingly, and like there's a
lot of it.

Speaker 2 (01:10:03):
There's an art to it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
Yeah, yeah, there is an art of fifty.

Speaker 2 (01:10:07):
It must have been fifty strimmer, mate, you're a different realm.
Got falls strimmer?

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
Yeah, no, it was it was ship. The cable was rubbish.
I gave up in the end and just send up
using an electric head shimmer instead.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
That's not the way for it, oh dear.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
But anyway, back to the forty six Academy guys vs.
He also got a chance to ride a motor type
machine during the test thanks to Frankie mooreb with Delly's
hand injury incurred when he crashed into the back of
the spider on the starting grid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:37):
I don't even know where to go with that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:39):
And that are quite We won't bother with that right now.
No one got any meaningful data from V forty six debut,
I'm sure, but it was a nice treat for the
rider anyway. And he just did half a day, Yeah,
a few laps. I think it was just gone. We've
got yeah have a crack, Yeah exactly, And Alex Marquez

(01:11:01):
finished p three as the top do Cattie. And as
I've already said, I really wonder what we've got to
see from Alex next year, Like I cannot believe that
he's going to be able to do this again next year.
If he does, then once again I've underestimated Alex Markeaz.

Speaker 2 (01:11:18):
I don't want to think about it because I don't
want to think of this as just a flash in
the pan. I'd like to think of this as it's.

Speaker 1 (01:11:25):
Been an entire year. Mate. This ain't a flash in
the pan. This is a pan fire.

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
He's burnt the kitchener, Yeah exactly. I don't want to
trust it at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
That's how I feel about it, Yeah, yeah, because I
kind of, like I've said many times this year, I've
always been quite big on Alex Markez. I think he's
been a very underrated rider.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Oh he always has it.

Speaker 1 (01:11:42):
I think this performance was above what I expected and
to be able to do.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
It was too sudden and too continuous.

Speaker 1 (01:11:49):
But then that continue, that consistency of it. You're like,
is this what he's capable of? I mean, the guy
obviously has won championships in all of the lower classes,
the guy is now a multiple motor GP race when
he fished second in the championship, But like he's a
vice champion, as they kind of quoting, it's a weird thing,
vice champion. We never talked about vice champions in the UK,
but he seems in other countries they talk about vice

(01:12:09):
champions with quite a lot of like.

Speaker 2 (01:12:11):
We just got the second place.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yeah, first loser, but losing. Yeah, but no vice champion
is kind of a big thing in other countries. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:12:20):
Yeah, it's just something we've never really adopted over here.

Speaker 1 (01:12:23):
Yeah. I think it's because we've never had anyone in
the UK finishing second. If they finished second regularly, like
our vice champion, good job.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yes, yeah, we'll give it some meaningful Yeah, we're used
to like being oh fucking.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Charles Davis is our closest to a vice champion, and
he was losing to Johnny ray so we didn't care.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
No, We're just like, well, that's one better than.

Speaker 1 (01:12:40):
You exactly and still a Brit.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
So in a way, I don't know where Johnny Ray's
political opinions feel about being called a Britt, but we'll
leave that one there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:51):
I don't think he listens. I don't think if you
suddenly writing in this is Johnny Raye like oh fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
Yeah, we love you. He's flu the union. Jackie must
be mon irish.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he is. He's in retirement.
We'll get him on.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Yeah, he'll be doing he'll be wild carding next year.

Speaker 2 (01:13:09):
Oh yeah, he'll be fluttering around. He's one of those
that is still capable. So he's going to dabble. Yeah,
he's going to dabble. And then yeah, Christ's past twelve.

Speaker 1 (01:13:21):
Yeah it's late mate. Unfortunately Katie M and then Katim
they were new. Arrow was named the game over at KATM,
and Pedro Costa used it to put himself up in
fifth overall as top KTM, around a tenth and a
half clear of his teammate Brad binder. But the times
are all so close in this test that that tenth
and a half was worth four positions. So it's pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
And it's testing. You can never really trust it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:46):
Yeah, quite, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Not running at full chat. They've all got agendas they're
trying to fill and boxes to tick.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Yeah, exactly, So it is more.

Speaker 2 (01:13:53):
Of a I don't know, bragging rights, Yeah, kind of
just the knife in a little bit trying to give
show your hand to a little bit like poker at
this point.

Speaker 1 (01:14:04):
Yes, exactly, that's exactly what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
Try to bluffy over this bit with a shitty hand.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Quite interesting that Katim though, are still bringing They were
bringing new Arrow, so they are still bringing things to
the test, which a weird kind of feared they wouldn't
be bringing anything new at all with the engine freeze.
We know, Katim maybe have the best engine at top
end grunt anyway, so a refinement in the Arrow will
do them a world a good.

Speaker 2 (01:14:26):
Yeah, they haven't got to worry about their engine. They
just need to find two little bits around it. Yeah, exactly,
solidify that kind of mold.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
Yeah, and then Honda, then Honda. A raft of Arrow
updates have reportedly gone down very very well with the
three Honda veterans. They all finished within a tenth of
each other. Mir was twelfth, Zarko was thirteenth, Marini was fourteenth,
about seven tenths down from the top spot. But you know, again, testing,

(01:14:54):
man is testing.

Speaker 2 (01:14:55):
We can't read too much into it. And they're all together. Yeah,
I think if they were all space down and bunched
across the other plate all over the place, I'd be
a little looking and I think, shit, what's going wrong here?

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Yeah, that's actually a really good point. So the fact
they are all so close together and so close in
times probably suggests this may be Honda's pace right now,
at least for six.

Speaker 2 (01:15:15):
Yeah, that's what I'm taking over there. Yeah, they're all
grouped to have been like, why is it so erratic?
What's going on here? You know, if Zarko's half a
second or ahead of the rest, you think, well, shit,
it's just normal business. The fact that they're so close
together shows something's happening. There's a change your foot. So
I take this as a positive.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
Yes, Yeah, And I think that's a really good point. Actually,
there's some consistency among them all.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
Yes, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:15:40):
The only member of the Honda lineup that is inconsistency
among right now is Dioga Morrera. But you know, understandably
he was using the test just to begin to understand
GP machinery have a go, Yeah exactly. So he finished
one point eight seconds off the top, not a bad
start at all, kind of this is where you expect
rookies to be between one and two seconds off the top,

(01:16:01):
and it's been a pretty good first test for the rookies.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Yeah. I think he's just glad to be out there
doing it. It's just kind of that wake up, let's
get down do as much business as we can once
the grin has wall off, Yes, exactly, and you stop
shitting yourself at the speed.

Speaker 1 (01:16:14):
Yeah, quite, which is a good point top rack. They're
finishing one point three off the top, so yeah, he's
kind of falling into that same realm, but yeah, exactly,
but still half a second faster than Marrera top rack.
The more you read into top rac like that, overall
the headline time isn't great, but the more you read

(01:16:34):
into it, the more impressive it becomes.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Yeah, when you start looking at it and you compare
other things that Morrera is used to, that kind of
GP style machine, although bit two machine top racks. Jumping
across from something, yes, it's going to be faster, but
it's a completely different entity to what we have in
the GP package. And when you look at the results
that he's got, he's already quicker than a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Yes. Quite, that's a good point. I wonder, you know,
whether the difference for coming from a World superbike is
bigger than the difference from coming from a Moto two machine.

Speaker 2 (01:17:08):
Ultimately, that's a good point. Actually, I've never considered that before.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
In years gone by, that you know, coming over from
a World superbike is probably less of a difference to
coming over from Motor two machine. But with the Motor two,
with the Triumph engine direction it's doing, it's it's probably yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I that's interesting, Actually, I haven't never considered that before. Well,
the only way we're going to find out is to
speak them.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Yeah, but the problem is you need to speak to
someone who's potentially come from both and then it doesn't
matter because it's irrelevant. You kind of need someone that's
maybe this cross from Moto to to Moto GP, or
Fromoto two to World super Bikes then to Moto GP.
Can see which jump is bigger.

Speaker 2 (01:17:48):
Oh we just email top rack and doogo and just
say that you willant to hop on.

Speaker 1 (01:17:52):
Yeah, but then they've they've got experience at this point,
Boleg is the guy to ask.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
But yeah, actually Booleger would be ideal.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
Goes from MOTE but then he went moto to or
supersport into someone that's gone super bike Jake Dixon.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Yeah, he would actually be the one to us because
he's written GP boats.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Yeah, he went motor to GP, back to Motor two,
across to well super bikes, but he came from British
super bikes to get to Motor two, So he'd be
the kind of guy interesting project. Yeah, try to convinced
one of these guys to talk to us.

Speaker 2 (01:18:25):
Joke.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
You were like, yeah, okay, I know it's one am,
and i know we're a few bebies in, but I've
got really fucking good idea. Do you want to jump
on a call?

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
He got a Spotify minute. Yeah, we're a bit shedded,
but we promise will make sense. Yeah, I won't be
before our shows. We go from the tangent asking what
your cat like? Sweet?

Speaker 1 (01:18:41):
Yeah, what's the cat like to eat? Would you eat
human meat? And what's your favorite addition to a Christmas dinner?

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Yeah, would you lick a snail?

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
Would it trip me out? It would be my first question.
Oh what's your favorite bit of a roast dinner? Oh,
Christmas dinner, specifically.

Speaker 2 (01:19:01):
Favorite bit of Christmas dinner called meat on boxing?

Speaker 1 (01:19:05):
Do good choice? I always like to turkey wristole on boxing. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
So on Boxing Day I always do a cold lunch
and that is still there mate, Yeah, whatever is leftover
salid Oh nice? Yeah, roast veg meat, cook up a
massive Yorkshires all in nice bit of gravy.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Nice. That's the second roast dinner.

Speaker 2 (01:19:37):
Essentially, you got the amalgamation of like everything is now
a little bit old, everything's settled down. That's fair, and
you can do it smaller. Yeah, Boxing day roast nice?

Speaker 1 (01:19:51):
Yours a really good roast potato. The problem is I
grew up in a family of chefs, and like a
with very committed chefs who I have never had a
roast potato like I hate growing up. It doesn't matter
where I go, and it doesn't matter how good I
can make my own roast plates because I've put quite
a specific effort into making a really good roast potato,

(01:20:13):
and I still can't nail them, and I just no
one has ever nailed them like I eate them grown up.
So if I could have a roast potato like I
would eat when I was ten years old, then that
would be it. But I just feel like a roast potato,
when done well, can be the ultimate part of roast dinner.
But no one can do them well. No, and not
no one. Very few people can do them well.

Speaker 2 (01:20:35):
There is an art, there is a real art roast bud.
I'd like to think I could do really good ones,
but then I've eatn at places because I've worked in kitchens. Yeah,
I've been around chefs. I've eaten stuff that they've cooked.
Animal was like a well fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
It's when they're done in like you know, they're they're
a part boiled first and then they're kind of beginning
the roast but in the dish with the turkey, and
then they get based see be goose fat and then
roasted on their own. At that point, you're like, that
is a great roast potato. But I'm also not going
to spend four hours making a really good roast potato,
because mate, that's worth nearly like fifty quid.

Speaker 2 (01:21:13):
So I always cook coming up separately, cook a bailing first. Yeah,
get that little bit of fluffy rum. Yeah, rough them
up they have If it's going to be a special occasion,
they have to go in like goose fat, that's really
blazing hot. Yeah. A couple of closer gar like in there,
boiling away.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah. Maybe if speaks of time in there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
Yeah, I put that in. La oh okay, I put
that in later. These things gotta be well sorted, but
you won't sizzling and like spit in it. Soerviously hit
that fact. It's got seal, got sears straight away half
an hour top, keep turning them, but then a bit
more stage and time. There's a lot of eff Yeah,
there's a lot of it. There's it's an artful.

Speaker 1 (01:21:52):
When I was growing up, we used to, Yeah, we
used to go around my grandparents every Sunday for a
Sunday roast. But we'd go to church beforehand. So we
used to we'd meet my grandparents at church and then
we'd go to their house for dinner for roast. Lune Sundays.
When you walked in the front door, because the roast

(01:22:14):
would have been going for left well boom, so they'd
have gone out at nine o'clock in the morning to
church and everything would have been roasting until we get there,
like one, so they I imagine this is on low temperature.
They're doing it right, and you walk in and it's
just the house like it is. Yeah, exactly. That was
always the way. Yeah, so ever since then, I'm like,
if anything's roasted for less than four hours, what's the
fucking point.

Speaker 2 (01:22:34):
Yeah, Yeah, it's got to be a slower roast. If
we're going to do a roast, it's always got to
be top side of beef rolled and then that goes in.
It's just it's it's an artful yeah, and somebody being
enjoy as well. A good oven is key as well.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:49):
You need a big, consistent heat oven. If you've got
like a really small household one that's going to dip
in temperature, that's going to affect it. Yeah, you need
like almost like semi industrials kind of grade thing. I
don't know. I did roast on the barbecue outside last
year at Christmas. Some roasties going out there, going out there,
and I was out there with my pj's like roast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
I haven't considered that. I'm here for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:13):
Maybe I'll do a barbecue for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (01:23:15):
Yeah, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
If you're here, i'll cook you some stuff coming around.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Yeah, I won't be I'll be over New Year. I
won't be here for Christmas.

Speaker 2 (01:23:21):
If you're back, we'll get out there.

Speaker 1 (01:23:22):
I'll just turn off for leftovers after the year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:25):
I was out the Christmas day. I was about six
in the morning, stuff and like getting the coals.

Speaker 1 (01:23:29):
Going Christmas Christmas, man, I can I can get behind
a Christmas barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:23:35):
I was out there like meeting the other and there's
going on everywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:23:40):
Nice.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
I was pissed by.

Speaker 1 (01:23:42):
A Yeah, I assumed I am. There's there's Bailey's and
the coffee first thing in the morning. I was just
strap bottle whiskeyout of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:23:53):
But on Christmas Day. Maybe I'm getting a bit wasted.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
Christmas Day and tonight.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Yes, and fluid t his quarterble.

Speaker 1 (01:24:02):
Yeah it's quarter one, but I've still got Formula one
to watch. When I get back, I'm probably going to
sit and watch it. But that brings us to the
end of the test. Steve, who knew that the test
was going to take us close to an hour and
a half to talk about Chris. There's one newsm I
want to touch on, and then that is the end
of this show, thank god. So the one news item
I want to hit here is this Jorge Lorenzo, Maverick

(01:24:25):
Vignalez join up here. I quite liked that. The initial
announcement was like ninety nine x What number is matthewsing now?

Speaker 2 (01:24:33):
Twenty five? Twenty five?

Speaker 1 (01:24:35):
That's what I was going to go for, but I
felt wrong. What is his original number? In mos gupre?

Speaker 2 (01:24:40):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:24:40):
I wasn't twenty three?

Speaker 2 (01:24:43):
Ma jew eleven?

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
No, not eleven. That was Ben's peas he doing with
a number?

Speaker 2 (01:24:50):
Yeah, then that has to change it, didn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
Yeah? What did it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:54):
What did he start with? God? All right, hang on,
I can't remember now.

Speaker 1 (01:24:58):
I think Vin Motor GP numbers. Maverick's race number is twelve.
He changed to twelve from the twenty five's Yeah, okay,
there we go. It's funny because I saw the twenty
five on the front of this isoo.

Speaker 2 (01:25:13):
Yeah, yeah, you see it now?

Speaker 1 (01:25:16):
Okay? So yes, it was the ninety ninety nine x twelve,
which I quite liked. It was like those ridiculous pair
ups you see where like a shoe company has like
partnered with a backpack company or some celebrity for some reason.
You're like, what's happened? Yeah, exactly, it felt like that,
but yes, they have joined forces. Now. It was announced

(01:25:36):
last week that Maca Vineyards assigned Jhi Lorenzo as a
rider coach for the twenty twenty six season. It was
not really clear what this relationship will involve, but the
pair have announced that some rather convoluded and open plans
that involve. It's kind of a three step thing.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Yeah, it's like a self help program.

Speaker 1 (01:25:55):
Exactly how it feels when you read it, You're like, oh,
how much I paid?

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
Steps?

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Yeah, exactly, recovery. So step number one is a strong
focus on routines, training and recovery tailored to the current
demands of Moto GP. Yeah. Step two a strategic coaching
role aimed at pressure and risk management, race consistency, and
decision making during critical moments, which, to be fair, does
feel like something Maverick.

Speaker 2 (01:26:21):
Needs that bit. Yeah, I'm on board with.

Speaker 1 (01:26:24):
Essentially, you could write their lap one. Yeah, we're going
to fix lap one. That's all we really need to do.
If life can qualify and we can fix lap one,
map might be world champion.

Speaker 2 (01:26:36):
Yes, yeah, exactly that, don't give up, don't lose your timber.

Speaker 1 (01:26:39):
Yeah, and step three work focused on building strong analysis
and planning for the race weekend, don't lose your shit. Yeah.
It does feel quite simple, doesn't it. I wonder how
much he is getting paid for this?

Speaker 2 (01:26:52):
Oh fucking absolutely loads, incredible amounts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
Yeah, quite And the announcement did come with the rather
fanciful aim of getting Math to the top spot EMTORGP
and winning a championship. Anything less will be a disappointment.

Speaker 2 (01:27:07):
But that's a bold statement.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
That's a really bold claim.

Speaker 2 (01:27:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Yeah, I don't think that. I think the time where
we could see Maverick as a MUORIP champion is done.

Speaker 2 (01:27:17):
And Dusty, yeah, I think that they may have passed.
But it's a positive. It shows they're thinking in the
right direction. Yeah, I can only for some reason, I
don't know why I could see a clash of mind
happening here. Yeah, I really can.

Speaker 1 (01:27:33):
This is either going to work really really well or
it's going to fall apart very very long.

Speaker 2 (01:27:37):
Yeah, I got strong.

Speaker 1 (01:27:40):
Thing's gonna be the letter, Yeah, I think it'll be
the form oft But.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
Yeah, I really like to see this do well. But
for some reason in my head, I'm like, this is
going to go so badly wrong, and it's going to
go badly wrong in such a spectacular fashion that we're
all going to love it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
It's got that feeling you're just going to ship tone
of popcorn. Yeah, and it's going to be explosive. It's
so many siblings get in a fight and you just
want to sit back and watch and kind of fuel
that fire a bit. You just poke the beast and
then just claim pure innocence.

Speaker 1 (01:28:12):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:14):
It's got that feeling to it.

Speaker 1 (01:28:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:28:16):
But I like to think it's the former and it's
just going to be a match made in heaven and
it's gonna be a perfect romance. But I don't know.
I'm skeptical.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Do you think because I think next year, if MAV
managers win a race like it's been a.

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
Really good year, I think that's been a good year.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
Do you think if MAV pulls off a race when
Katie and he goes, maybe I should go to DUKASTI
Now probably I've done it. I've done it with four manufacturers.
I want to try and do it with five.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Yeah, I think he probably will because their accoloe is
there to be had and no one else is going
to do it for a very long time.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
I mean, if he pulls it off with four, he's
done better than anyone has ever done. If he can
then move to Honda or over to Dukati and do
it with five, then.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Wowously go for the full house.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
You go, right, which one of you looks like the
best place to win a race in twenty seven, because
I'll sign with you on a one year deal and
then I'm moving over to the other to try and
finish off my career with winning with every manufacturer there's
been a Mojorji pieces I've been there.

Speaker 2 (01:29:12):
If that's how my head would work, if it became
clear that I couldn't win a championship.

Speaker 1 (01:29:18):
Which I think is quite clear at this point for.

Speaker 2 (01:29:20):
You, I think that ship has sailed. I'm going to
look for something else that is going to cement my
name in the history books. Yeah, four manufacturers will do it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Yeah, if you could.

Speaker 2 (01:29:30):
Then go one better and get the full house of
current manufacturers live.

Speaker 1 (01:29:35):
In infamy, Yeah, and maybe no one would ever do that.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
I don't think they ever will. I really don't think that.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
I mean, if he does with four, no one might
ever do that again.

Speaker 2 (01:29:43):
No, I really don't think they will. If if he
could do it, my first focus would be, let's do
it five. If it became evident that I only had
a race win or two in me per season, I
would honestly be looking for that and pursue that one.
That would be your legacy.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
Yeah, absolutely, yeah, wow, moving forward, well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:11):
I don't know. It's one of my highlights for next year.
I can't wait for it.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
There could be some drama.

Speaker 2 (01:30:17):
Yeah. The first thing I thought was I saw it cool.
That's gonna be tasty.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:30:22):
There's two stubborn people that are really clash was the
first thing that came to mind. I was like, that's beautiful. Yeah,
and every journal in the world just went, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:31):
Thank you, something to talk about the winter.

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
I'm just going to park up outside the Lorenzo Paddock
and just poke the beast. I stir up some hornets
and walk away with some headlines.

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
That then Steve does bring us to the end of
this show that's gone on much longer than either.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
You can all breathe a sigh of relief.

Speaker 1 (01:30:53):
So yeah, guys, thank you all. For listening. It's appreciated.
We will be doing our best to bring more shows
throughout the winter. I'm not sure how often they'll be,
but we'll do our best. We will try, and we
will also do our best to make sure we sign
off the year having released at least one Patreon episode
for every single month.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
So we're on track.

Speaker 1 (01:31:13):
So far, we are on track. But assuming Steve within
the next twenty three hours and ten minutes I can
get the one we've just recorded up, then we are
on track.

Speaker 2 (01:31:21):
I will give you a call in the morning.

Speaker 1 (01:31:23):
Make sure it's not too early, mate. Oh six hundred,
absolutely not. My phone is going to be on silent.

Speaker 2 (01:31:29):
I know we live.

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Yeah, it's a good point if you throwing stones at
our window tennis ball.

Speaker 2 (01:31:34):
If not, as we hit the nose, I can wake
he'll shout less it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:39):
You Yeah, I've probably shout more at him.

Speaker 2 (01:31:42):
Actually he won't care.

Speaker 1 (01:31:44):
No, that's true, he wouldn't care. So that then does
bring us to the end of the show. Folks, thank
you very much for listening. If you have any questions,
any comments, you want to let us know whether you
would eat human meat or what your favorite part of
a roast dinner is specifically a Christmas at roast dinner,

(01:32:05):
or you just want to give us your Motor GP
hot takes, then you can find us on We.

Speaker 2 (01:32:11):
Are for the Love of Motor GP and you can
find us on Instagram and Twitter, or come and join
the Facebook community. I don't I think it's slowed down
over the now because we've sort of slowed down as shows.

Speaker 1 (01:32:20):
Facebook Chat's also dead now.

Speaker 2 (01:32:22):
That is a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:32:23):
Yeah, we'll go around to working that out for the
next show. We'll put an announcement out to where that
new community will be.

Speaker 2 (01:32:28):
Yes, yeah, we will get to that. There's something in play.

Speaker 1 (01:32:31):
Yeah, we're working on it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:33):
Yes, it's in the background, it's in the popeline. But
if you've got anything else for us, email us at
for the lovermotorgp at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:32:42):
Yeah, and that's the place that gets checked the most.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
To be fair, that is we are sort of hotting
through that one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Yeah, Steve's hol on that. He just tells me when
people have written in that I needs to know about.
We are also over on Patreon, as I've mentioned a
couple of times this show. So if you want to
join us over there, then come and join at any paid
level for monthly shows. There's also now quite a good
backlog of shows there. You can join for a couple
of months and just burn you away through them all
and then and then quit again. That's fine, your.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
Money, Yeah, use us, we used to it.

Speaker 1 (01:33:12):
Yeah, there's a tear rolling down steps cheek, but he
said that as well. So guys, until next time, Thank
you very much for listening. Steady, safe and look after
each other, and we will speak to you very soon.

Speaker 2 (01:33:24):
Goodbye, take care of guys.

Speaker 1 (01:33:27):
Music is by Andrew Greenwood. Thanks for listening. Goodbye,
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