Unexpected Domination – Mugello 2025 MotoGP Race Review - For The Love Of MotoGP

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Steve, my good man, How the devil are you? Oh?

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Very good, buddy, how are you?

Speaker 1 (00:06):
I'm very good, my friend, I am very good. I
feel a little bit better than I did three minutes
ago when we were just raging before we got on
this call properly before we started recording, just about the
state of world politics. But now I'm ready to talk
about a GP. I'm feeling much better.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Yes, buddy, Yeah, this is a much better subject than
people loving big missiles at each other.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Well, yes, quite, isn't it? Just isn't it? Just? How
was your weekend, Steve?

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, my weekend was all right, very chilled, extremely chilled.
This one was just home with Sarah. She's not been well,
but keep myself entertained with the racing, which is good.
So it's just been a very very relaxed weekend. How
is yours?

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Nice? Much the same as every other weekend at the minute, mate,
I'm well into the groundhog day feel of a summer
season now. So yeah, just lots of sucking, lots of
racing that kept me going. And a race weekend next
weekend as well.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
A double hit. I forgot about that and they were
mentioning it all weekend I was like, I didn't click.
It just did not click, didn't go in my wee
tiny mind. And it was only when this yesterday morning
I looked on Instagram and there was that weekly Monday
morning post it's race week. Well shit, it is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
But it was literally just race week. How is it
race week?

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Again? It's so good? But yeah, what a weekend mate
for racing. This was good.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Yeah, it was good. It was a really good one.
I enjoyed it all a lot, across all classes.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Actually, yes, all three work very good this weekend from
the off. It was bloody, brilliant, really good weekend. Magello
always is. I've always hopped on about Magello and how
good it is and how it should always be. Like
if you want to introduce someone to motorgp make them
watch a Magello race or take them and experienced that

(02:02):
what symphony should we call it?

Speaker 1 (02:06):
Italian fans quite and I mean there was a lot
of them, mate. This was much like you know we
were talking about in Lemon, like when Zarco was winning
and it sounded like a football match at times, like
Migello sounded like that as well, like through the TV,
like every time Peco was doing something cool like, there
was just this eruption from the crowd. It sounded properly good,

(02:29):
It really did.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah. Every time he was in the lead of the
race and he went around another caller and the fans
they got to see it was just a raucous of noise.
Oh this is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Yeah, yes, I enjoying a lot. So it was a
lot of fun, absolutely, mud lots.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And lots of fun. But should we dive into it
and get chatting about it?

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Yes, mate, let's do just that. We've kept this intro
quite tangent free, and we'd started talking about much to
po before even done the intro. So yes, Steve, let's
dive into it.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
Must be excited.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Exactly. I'm Tim, He's Steve. And this is for the
love of Moto GP. If you are new to the show, welcome.

(03:26):
If you are returning, welcome back. This is for the
love of Moto GP, the show where Steve and I
sit down with a couple of beers and to talk
about Moto GP like we would in the pub. Steve
is currently going to war with something just to his left.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
I'm gonna lie it is a le'll just bring about
the yucker it's predator.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ah, your little predator figurine. Figurine is what we call
adult toys. So your predator toy there that lives in
the bush next to you.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Yeah, he lives in a yucker tree just next to me,
and it freaks in a work quite a bit. I
really shouldn't enjoy, but I do.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
He often made it's a good life lesson though, predator.
If you ever meet a predator, you fuck you need
to get out of there pretty quick. So to be
scared of them at his age is a sensible thing.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
Yeah. Yeah, So he lives in the yucker tree just
on my left, and but he just passed out, so yeah,
I'm just popped him back in the tree.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
Okay. He heard a rumor that Arnie was returning to
the big screen. He was like, no, not again. I
don't want to be dealing with this again.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Not taking that guy on again, even at seventy odd
years old.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
Enough like that, Yeah, exactly, exactly this week, Steve, I
have got a can of Impossive Brew with me, which
is a delicious that's made it sound like their responsor
they're absolutely not, but a delicious alcohol free beer pack.
It's a fascinating beer. This one actually packed with nootropics

(04:53):
that actually make you feel something. So this isn't like
my normal alcohol free beers because this one actually gets
gives you a I want. It's not gonna say a buzz,
but a really fun feeling in the brain. I don't
know what it is, but it's great. And a couple
of cans of that really are are pretty good. And
actually whatever it is blends beautifully with normal alcohol, so

(05:16):
I've got a normal beer for later, and it does
make the effects of a normal beer stronger, so it's
a great drink all round.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
So happy days. Yes, Tim has been experimenting with the
alcohol and alcohol alcohol exactly. Well, there we are. We
learned something new every every day we do.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
So if anyone is looking for a good alcohol free beer,
this one, specifically the Triple hoped Ipa, which is kind
of a limited edition one deal is banging. I just
want to put that out there. It's the best alcohol
free beer I've tried, without a doubt. So yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Sure you're not responsored?

Speaker 1 (05:51):
Well, this is the thing, isn't it. I feel so
affused about it. I just want to tell people about it.
But it is well worth a go. Maybe I should
put I probably could get affiliate code. I should put
in the in the show notes. I'm not going to
do that because this is genuine. It's just a great
beer worth a try. If anyone's looking to reduce how
Colin take a little Nah, it's okay. I've also got

(06:11):
a have I got here. It's got grass on it. Strangely,
sixteen sixty four Is that Cronenberg? Yeah, yes, I've got
a Cronenberg for later as well.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
I'm still on the Jews.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, the Orange Squash for you, Steve, so once again
the designated driver.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Then for the Sea of An unfortunately thanks to Bully.
But there go.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
One of those things, like one of those things you've
got that creative punk ipa or whatever. It was just
winking at you.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
You're still looking at me, teasing me. Well, you're longingly
over towards it, dirty dirty thing.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Anyway, Steve, we've done our tangent now after the intro,
so it's all got very confusing. But before we dive
into the show properly, my friend, I've got a correction corner.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Oh where did you find this?

Speaker 1 (07:12):
Well, before I tell you that, Steve, you know what
we need to do.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
We do we need to cue that jingle correction corner.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
So this week's correction corner is all on me. I
said the wrong thing. I realized I said it, and
I emailed myself as a reminder to put it into
the show notes. I was going to email the podcast,
and then I thought that was a bit too wanky,
so I just sent myself an email to remind me.
But this is last week. I said that Peko would

(07:47):
be able to use his preferred front breakdisc at Magello
due to the heavy breaking zone in turn one. This
is the fifty five or the five fifty five fifty
five five fifty five, the meter caliber that he likes,
not caliper a disc that he likes. H you're saying,
oh okay, really good front field. However, that was not

(08:09):
the case here. The big break disc isn't actually suitable
for Magello because there is only one huge braking zone
as opposed to Aragon, which has quite a lot of
heavy braking zones. So the larger disc doesn't maintain temperature
properly throughout the lap, which if it was used, means
it would offer inconsistent breaking performance, sometimes offering nothing and
other times offering huge stopping power and probably inconsistent breaks

(08:32):
are worse than having bad breaks because you just don't
know what you're going to get when you grab a
big handful of front brake.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
No, that is very true. It's very true. I didn't
pick up on that at all either, not a thing,
but there we go. Yeah, correction corner.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Self correction corner. Yeah, exactly, So you know, I'm happy
to correct myself as well as beatgrit corrected. And I
just love using the jingle to be honest with your safe.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
Yeah, we don't use it that much, so come on, people,
tell us some more.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, yeah, blimme me.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
It's hot roosting down here in the UK.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
In your part of the UK, mate, it ain't roasting
up here. I'm sitting here in a hoodie and a
hat and a buff I'm wrapped up for winter, although
it keeps getting that a way that I keep taking
my hat off to cool down a little bit, and
then I'm too cold enough to put it back on.
So it's a bit of a confusing temperature today. But
what are you going to do?

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Yeah? For the UK over here, it's still in our
part of the UK. Twenty one degrees apparently.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
Wow, I haven't seen well, it was pretty nice over
the weekend actually, but yeah, twenty one degrees is still
not a temperature I've seen very much of yet this year.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Well that sucks.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
Yeah, but what are you to dodah, It's one of
those things that's Scotland for you, That is Scotland.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
We Scotland.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
So let's come on to the News then, Steve, before
we run down through the top fives, and we will
cover a couple of more GP talking points, recap our
predictions and then make app predictions for next week's race
as well. Do it, buddy, Okay, So the News then
up top Piers Thieve. Just a couple of items to
touch on. Firstly, I think this broke yesterday and this

(10:14):
was Liberty Media's Moto GP acquisition deal, and this is
the deal that we'll see. Liberty Media, the current owners
of Formula one, take a controlling stake of Moto GP.
So what they're actually doing is taking a controlling stake
of Dorner. They're going to be taking eighty four percent
stake of Dorner. The other sixteen percent is owned by
I think it's called Motorjip Management. But I can't.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
It's another conglomerate I think of people. But yeah, they
will have the steak okay.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
So yeah, Liberty Media taking eighty four percent control of
Dorna and that has now been approved by the European
Commission And this was essentially the final hurdle to get
through to get this deal going. And the deal is
now expected to be completed in the next couple of weeks.
And I think was it three point five billion euros
or something.

Speaker 2 (11:00):
The lives and insane amount of money. Yeah, but they'll
get it back. They'll get it back pretty quickly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Well, this is the kind of thing, isn't it when
you make these huge investments, Like yes, they're going to
be making you know, tens of hundreds of millions a year,
but you're also buying it as an investment, so you're
going to profit off it quite large now, and then
you're going to be to sell it in the future
if you build it up, and it's going to be
worth even more.

Speaker 2 (11:24):
Yeah, exactly, good business.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
Quite for now. Carmelo Spiletta is expected to retain control
of Moto GP as the Downer CEO, so Downer will
continue to run the championship it's just the Dorner is
now owned by Liberty Media. Yes, but there will be
some new Liberty Media appointees to Moto GP's governing board.

(11:47):
Now there's a couple of interesting ones here. Chase Kerry,
who is the former F one CEO and director of
Liberty Media itself. He will be stepping into the board
of directors and he did a very similar thing. Then
Liberty took over Formula one from this guy's name, Bernie Berne,

(12:08):
not Bernie Eckleston. All I had in my head was
Bernie Sanders, so I was I was absolutely not Bernie Sanders,
Bernie eccleston. There we go. Yeah, but for once, Bernie
Sanders is the younger Bernie in this conversation.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
But yes, Chase Kerry, he took over the Formula one
CEO role when Liberty took over, and he stayed in
that role for a year or two, I think, and
then steps down when they found a suitable replacement, and
that was Stefanodminicalali, who was the previous Formula one boss,
Formula one Ferrari Formula one team boss, and he is

(12:45):
now the current Formula one boss. I expect the same
thing to happen here. I expect ch the board for
a year or two, and then he will probably oversee
replacing Carmelos, but letter completely and he will then step
back when someone he deems a suitable is in that role.
And Massimo Rovola is still the guy they're talking about
here that he seems to be the favorite.

Speaker 2 (13:06):
He seems to be the favorite talking point, and I
can see why. It's a good good jab got a
good head on his shoulders, knows this stuff. I think
he would be suitable, really do.

Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, me too. And it's a very similar thing actually,
if it does end up being Mathma Revola as to
what happened in Formula one. Yeah, an ex team boss
coming in taking control because they have a knowledge of
the sport that someone from the outside certainly does not
have exactly, and are well connected. So yeah, I imagine

(13:36):
if it's going to be someone, I suspect it will
be someone like Masimo. If it's not actually going to
be him, Gig got togg. I don't think it will
be gg mate. I don't think Gig gives the flying
fuck about anything except making one bike faster.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yeah, that is true. I just think where there's knowledge
and foresight. He'd be good at it. But I can't
see you get him and him off the shop floor.

Speaker 1 (13:59):
No, that's the thing, isn't it. I imagine if they were
to get him into Dorner somehow, he would go in
as this kind of ross Braun type character where he
would be making a ross brawl, a formula one I'm
referring to here of like he would be part of
testing the rules before the rules are given to teams,
to try and find loopholes, to try and find the

(14:21):
things he would do if he was going to look
at this rule set and be like, we've not said
I can't make error on that bit of the bike.
So that's where I'm putting it. That's the kind of
role I imagine he'd get. But I can't just I
just cannot see him ever doing anything apart from designing motorcycles.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
No, I can't. I can't at all. Massimorevola, I think
is the only way to go, Gigi. I think it
would be like the nostalgic view, because he's just synonymous
for doing fantastic things whatever you put in front of him. Yeah,
but I just can't see it would be like the
guy you work everyone wants in charge. But it's just

(14:57):
like that way now.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
I could see it in a few years being a
Simon Crafart type character, like someone who has worked within
now multiple fact overall exactly and as a really good
working knowledge and again a very good relationship with everyone.
So I could see someone like him stepping up into
that role. But we'll have to wait and see, we shall.

(15:20):
The other notable appointee is Sean Bratches, who is the
ex Managing director of Commercial Operations for Formula one. So
this is yeah, you know, this is the guy that
oversaw the drive to survive seeing the huge boom of
fandom in Formula one, so it makes perfect sense that
he'd be jumping on the board very quickly to try

(15:41):
and get things moving.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Yeah. Those are definitely two names I think will be
seeing a lot of or hearing a lot of seeing
like he's on the sofa having a cup of tea.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Well, we might not see or hear much of them directly,
but I suspect we'll start to see the result signs
of yeah exactly and of the like Liberty Media is
excellent marketing and stuff. I think we'll see that sooner
rather than later, and those two will be having a
big hand in that.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Yes, yeah, so yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Overall. You know, I've been pretty excited about this deal
from the start, and I'm super stoked on it now
that it's happening. I think Liberty Media have done great
things for Formula One. I don't think this is going
to be too much of a monopoly problem. I still
think the monopoly really is the fact that they are
in on super Bike Examino GP. That feels like a
monopoly to me as opposed to GP.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
Yeah, I think most people are on board with it,
but hell, I don't know. Let us know what you
think at Hope, email us in drop us a line.
Let us know what you think from around the world.
What are your views on it as well. Curious to
see actually just what everyone's feelings are, whether it's going
to be different depending on your geographical location or just

(16:51):
generally just let us know what you think. I'm curious.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Yeah, I actually think as well. I've been thinking about
this a lot. I really do think in the next
few years we are going to see a Formula one
Motor GP race weekend where both happen on the same
track you've mentioned before.

Speaker 2 (17:06):
Incredible, Yeah, I don't think it'll happen very often. I
think it could be like a one off special maybe
to end, yeah, I suspect yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Or it'll be you know, some weird celebration like it's
this tracks eightieth Formula one race, so we're going to
celebrate by throwing in a motor GP race as well.
Somewhere that amazing, mate. They would have to be somewhere
like cattle in somewhere where you can fit you know,
two hundred and fifty thousand people.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
Yeah, exactly, it would be huge. It would be said,
it is a fantastic idea. I don't think you could
have the lower classes. There would literally just be f
one motor GP. But that is I would saying, idea.
That's definitely one to drop in the suggestions box to
put it that way.

Speaker 1 (17:49):
Yeah, yeah, And I imagine they've spoken about it might
be if idiots like us are discussing it, then that
the intelligent marketers over liberty will be discussing this as well.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Yep, sorry, just removing a jacket from the back of
the chair. That pissing me off.

Speaker 1 (18:08):
Yeah, excellent, I'm glad you're comfy now, Steve. I thought
you were just really bored of what I was saying
as you were just fidgeting around her.

Speaker 2 (18:13):
No, I left a biking jacket on the back of
the sofa which has got all the armor in it,
and it was just digging in. It's too much.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
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Speaker 2 (18:39):
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Speaker 1 (18:44):
Yeah, used code, Yeah exactly. So the next news I
am here Steve, and kind of just the last one
before we start talking about the racing itself. This is
da Vitioso to remain a Yamaha test rider, posed to
officially become a proper contracted Yamaha test riders. So it's
the weird standing role he's been doing recently.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Yeah, yeah, he's dropping into that role full time if you.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Will, exactly, But it's not just that role. So this
new three year deal he signed with Yamahara is to
be a test rider and a rider performance advisor. And
in this new role, Dobby will act there's a bit
of a go between for the riders and the engineers
to ensure all parties understand the development process and what
everyone needs from each other to help bring this Yamaha

(19:30):
back to the front.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
Yeah. So in other words, in Layman's terms, he's going
to like translate that thing you see the riders doing
where they're in the pit box and they've got the
handlebars like mocked up in their hands, and he's going
to go to the engineers and go what that means
is turn it down.

Speaker 1 (19:46):
A notch exactly. Yeah, that will be exactly the case, I imagine,
And it will also be just a lot of liaising.
And I suspect he will be saying because he'll be
looking at the data and talking to the engineers. I
suspect he will be you watching trackside, seeing what the
riders are doing and being like, oh, you're you know,
you're half a meter two wide. You need to bring

(20:06):
it in, you need to crack the power a bit earlier,
and just being able to translate what the computer is
telling the engineers to the riders themselves and in a
way that they will understand. Not that I'm saying the
riders the idiots. They don't understand what the engineers are saying.
But engineers don't speak rider talk, and riders don't speak engineers.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
No, exactly, there's a language barrier that needs to be
exactly and that is going to be his role. And yeah,
the only thing I see being a problem with that
is when you've got someone like Quateros out there, I
just don't understand what's going on. It's like you break
it to you, like fucking championships? Are you one diged.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Exactly? Don't saying about racists? You shut your mouth.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, yeah, I did things you couldn't like what?

Speaker 1 (20:51):
But Yeah, Dorvy is a really interesting character. I mean,
everyone refers to him as the professor because he is
one of the rare few that can understand and speak
to engineers in a way that makes sense to everyone.
And as Quaterra himself said, Dobby knows exactly what happens
on the bike and knows the details to say to
the engineers, and that's really important for the development of
this machine going forwards. So it turns out Quadra had

(21:12):
a big hand in actually getting Yamaha to sign Dobby.
This was quite an important part of Quadra committing to
Yamaha was They've got Dobby.

Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, yeah, which makes sense. He is a hell of
a rider, very experienced. They didn't call him the professor
for nothing. He will be an asset, a big asset
for Yamaha and the riders. So yeah, I think they've
landed on their feet with that signing.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Yeah, absolutely, absolutely, And you know, I'm expecting them all mate.
This is the problem though, isn't it. Coming to the
new rule set, I'm expecting every team to be at
the front. That can't happen.

Speaker 2 (21:47):
No, No, that is the trouble. We need a last
place to finisher and unfortunately they get criticized more than
everyone else.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Guy, it would just be nice if the last place
finisher was like, you know, a few seconds off the
win chunk of time, not.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Like a week and a half like you and I.

Speaker 1 (22:04):
Well, quite racist.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Still going on Thursday?

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Who's going around? A couple of videos?

Speaker 1 (22:12):
Tim Stephen Christophe.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
O Evil.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
That was me. Oh, it's okay. I'm sure he likes
being spoken about, even if it is in a bit
of a jokey bay because I've said before I know
he's much better than I'll ever be, but anything, so
that's fine.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
One day we're gonna get an email. Well I've always
joked about this, which is just the challenge throwdown. Come on,
let's ship.

Speaker 1 (22:43):
It would be so much fun. Like what a great
podcast episode that would be, that would.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Be on on location watch this, Tim Steve to two
and a half million pounds. Would you be bikes?

Speaker 1 (22:55):
They'd be like, we're not trusting you with anything except this,
like Yamahascua.

Speaker 2 (22:59):
Yeah, we've got the paddock scooter.

Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, and I'd still find a way to throw it
down the road mate.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
Oh mate, I'll put it on this roof.

Speaker 1 (23:07):
Yeah. It would be me like Fabio Coro with a
shoulder in the gravel.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Yeah, pop it in the marshals.

Speaker 1 (23:17):
Yeah, except I wouldn't be that hardcore. I'd be like,
take you to the hospital, yeah, give me the drugs. Yeah,
not just be moaning about it for weeks.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
M tell them my grandkids about it.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah, yeah. Quite At that time that I crashed racing
Christoph Ponson.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
Wow, amazing, what a story Christoph.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Right in anyway, let's bring it back, Steve we have
got the top fives to talk about. We have.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
Let's dive into it, buddy, So.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
We will go in our normal order here. Steve will
start with Moto three, have a chat about that, go
through ABOUTY two. Then do Moto GP, Sprint and Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yes, just do it.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Excellent, So the Moto III race then, Steve. This race
was frenetic as ever. Magello is amazing for Moto three
racing because of that really long straight. It really keeps
the pack together that epic slip streaming they are doing.
At some points in this race, they were like ten
bikes wide going into turn one, just because they all

(24:23):
fanned out after the slipstream kicked in, and the top
ten even by the end of the race were covered
by like one point two seconds, and for much of
the race the entire field were only spread by a
few seconds. Like it was pretty wild how close everyone was.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
It was really insane. At one point you could see
everyone going through the same corner and that was around
the race. Oh my god, someone's going to end up
getting hurt here, but it just glued you to the screen.
The smaller classes around Magello I just in insane. It's
so much fun.

Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, quite. There was that terrifying crash though. Was it
a heeny.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
Who slid down the track.

Speaker 1 (25:02):
Sliding down and like through the racing line. Just he
slides through the racing line and there's just bikes dodging
him all over the place like that was scary to watch.
I really thought someone was getting hurt there. But thankfully
everyone's reactions were amazing and to get around him, and
very few people actually lost any time in doing so,
which was quite very impressive.

Speaker 2 (25:22):
That was nuts. I was like, well, everyone's still in
the same place pretty much about Pap from Dio show
wearing grass tracking, yes, but still manage to avoid it.
Is so lucky mate. Well yeah, thankfully the most important
thing is they went home, okay, so.

Speaker 1 (25:41):
Yeah, quaite. And just to show how close this race was,
the podium was covered by just six hundredths of a
second and the gap between first and second was six
thousandth of a second.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
Nuts, that is insane. I've watched the show. It was
like a half wheels. Oh my god, that's mad. So good.

Speaker 1 (26:05):
Yeah, it was so close. It was so close. It
was one of those races, wasn't it where you're like,
Moto three is banging. But at the same time, Moto
three is terrifying.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
It really is. And you know, these are young, young
people and they've got the biggest amount of courage I've
ever seen.

Speaker 1 (26:23):
Yeah quite.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
You know, they're so young, so brave, and I think
that's part of what makes it fantastic because they haven't
got that fear factor. No rator has, but these guys
even more so. But yeah, hats off to them all.
They really did keep us enter tame this weekend.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Yeah quite, And then Steve, the top five looked like
this big place was David Munyoff. Backing up his win
last time out, David once again showed his class without
being too idiotic in the process. He was still super aggressive.
He still had a tangle or two, but not any

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of his class, just wiping people out and getting palies
for it. So he while I still don't think he's
a reformed character, he is getting better.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Yeah, he is raining it in, which is good. It
needs to be rained in. So hopefully this is the
start of a more sensible David.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
But we'll see, right which if he can maintain it
and actually remain sensible, you can see being a title
challenger next year.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, you really can. He just needs to tone it down,
you know, get rid of that chaotic kind of attitude,
and he will be fine. Yes, a bit of amazing.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Yeah, he does have a bit of maturing to do. Absolutely,
But that's what this class is for, mate, And I
mean you can argue, actually, that's not what this class
is for. That's what Reppele rookie's in the Junior GP for.
It's like you're still learning all the way.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, But he'll be fine. Tone it down,
he'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
Okay, there have you frozen? Have you gone quiet?

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I tell you what though, I'm now looking at his
champion So he's in eighth in the championship. Can you
hear me?

Speaker 2 (28:14):
You're there, You're back. We just had a little deal, Steve.

Speaker 1 (28:17):
Can't hear me, I can hear you? Okay, okay, cool,
I was. I'm just looking at David Minion of position
in the championships. He's eighth in the championship right now
on sixty two points. He's only one point off seventh.
But the wild thing is is we're now, what nine
rounds into the year, and he has had five DNFs.

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Oh I didn't realize it was that many. I thought
it was three five.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
It's five DNFs. He's on his finishes. His worst finish
has been a sixth place, and it's best has been
a win. Ye with a third place and a fifth
throwing in as well, two fastest laps, three fastest laps
of the pole position as well, So you know when
he keeps it rotherside.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
That yeah, when the red mist doesn't.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Over the season, but he does needs to wait, we'll.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
See green all the time. But he's a young kid.
He'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah, fourth place, then Steve was Jose Antonio Ruada. Two
races on the spin without a podium now, and the
fact that that's interesting shows how good Ruades's season is going.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yes, yeah, he's had a fantastic season, and realistically he
can afford to be off the podium a couple of times.
You don't want to at this stage in season, but
you can, which speaks volumes.

Speaker 1 (29:41):
Yeah exactly. I mean he's got a comfortable fifty six
point lead on the care US right now and I
can't see that being overturned anytime soon.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
No, no, not with the way this guy's riding. He's
still look good. Fourth place, yes, but he's still looked
fantastic the entire race. And when these guys are battling
out like this, you go from first to tenth in
the first corner.

Speaker 1 (30:03):
It was tough, and just down the straight, mate, you
could be leading out of the last corner and you
could be tenth by the time you hit the braking
zone turn on. That's the straight ist silly here. For
that reason, he keeps the back together. But fuck me,
it's a hard race to win.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
It is. It needs an intelligent rider to win this one.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Yeah, great third place then, Steve. Speaking of intelligent riders,
Dennis Foggy ran from the past. It was just incredible
to see. I was really really rooting forger collapse. It
would have been incredible to see him get the top spot,
which did look possible, but even so, super cool to

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be back on the box and he had a great race,
somewhat aided by the battling in front. That meant he
was able to latch onto the leaders. But he just
showed his experience and his class in this one. And
I hope you see more of them from throughout the season.
And I'm not convinced we will, but I hope we do,
because it was just great. It was just a nice
feel good story to see the Italian after his Torries'
time motor coming back to Moti three and just getting

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it on the podium.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
Yep, this was needed for himself. This was really needed.
And the tears and the emotion when he crossed that line.
He didn't hold back. You know, lid was open, advisor
was up, everyone saw it. Fantastic. What's all about?

Speaker 1 (31:22):
Yeah? Absolutely, second place. Then Steve Alvaro Carpe another crackerformance
in the rookie He's just been so so good this year.

Speaker 2 (31:35):
He has is so good to see carrying this trend on.
He was close to the win. Six I mean, I'm
not taking anything away from the winner at all, but
the race that these two provided in those last few

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laps was just insane. But unfortunately it's racing. One of
them's got to come second, and it was Carpe, but
still man first or second. I'm so happy for the
guy because it was a pure piece of racing. And
he'll be his year is gonna be absolutely fine.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah quite. I mean that's his third podium in his
rookie season now, so yeah, he's he's going to do
a good big sixth.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
I want to say, oh third, Yes, fantastic. Not a
bad rookie season at all so far.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
No. Quite. He's actually only a single point behind Pureras
right now, so he's only fifty nine points off the
top spot.

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Tasty, that's good, very very good.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
Yeah quite. But the winner in this one, Steve out
shining Carpe, was another rookie in Maximo Kiles mate, and man,
it's it's hard to overstate how good k seems to be.
If he'd been riding from the start of the year, well,

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even not missed those two extra rounds due to injury,
he'd be right in the title fight at this point.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
Yeah, it's a shame he wasn't here at the start.
I'd love to see what this guy could have done
by now. If he was at the start here at
the start of the season, he's going to be forming.
He keeps riding like this, and he's going to educate
some very experienced riders.

Speaker 1 (33:26):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. It's the championship is still far from over,
to be fair, but he has got a lot of
ground to try and cover. He's twenty points back from
Carpe in the Rookie of the Year battle, and seventy
seven points back from Ruaida at the top of the standings.
But if he does keep this momentum going, it is
possible he could do something really special. He's currently what

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you know, he's raised five times yep in Moto III,
stood on a podium in three of those. That's two
second places and a first, and they were the last
three rounds. Other than that, he had a seventh with
the pole position and a fifth in his first ever race.
So the guy is adjust on the kind of Pedroacosta

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levels of form in his rookie year so far.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
He is, and I'm really hoping we're watching what is
the start at one of the bright stars of the
future coming through. I really do think we could be
what a few laps, what an entire race. I'm so
happy for him, got his first win after such an

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epic race.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah quite, and I had completely forgotten, but we did
speak about this at the time that it was a
year ago in Magello that Kila has earned himself a
two race ban in the Red Ball rookies, causing a
huge crash on the straight after reoling around, after weaving around,
And this is something he seemed very circumspect about this weekend,
saying that Actually he learned a big lesson from that,

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and it was quite in that ban was quite an
important part of his progression as a rider because he
was riding like an idiot and that really taught him like,
you can't do that. That's not fair. You cannot be
riding like that. And man, did he show that he
learned his lesson because just this performance, mate was incredible.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah, I mean the commentators were saying that a lot.
You know, he left Magello last year in disgrace and
he's made up for it this year. If ever, there
was a picture of learn from your mistakes, this is
one to look at.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
Yes, absolutely, this guy.

Speaker 2 (35:31):
Yeah, really really fantastic race this weekend.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
Quite and a very well deserved win. And yes, beautiful.
It's gonna be really really fun to just watch him
through the rest of this year.

Speaker 2 (35:42):
Yep, yep, I'm really looking forward to following this young
man's career.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah. Great, that was Moto three, then, Steve, So let's
move it on to Moto two, shall we.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
Let's buddy.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Excellent, So this race quite a lot more sedate than
we saw in Moto three. Moto gave us an amazing
battle for the last step on the podium and for
the fight for the win was just one of those
kind of high pressure do not make a mistake because
the behind is close enough to pounce, but not close

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enough to get you done in a breaking zone. So
it was a high pressure race, but it didn't have
the same equitment as some other races we've seen in
the past.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
No, it was still bloody, entertaining, and there was a
lot of stuff going on to keep you on the
edge of his seat, but it wasn't as high octane
as what we used to do. But still it kept
me glued. I couldn't stop looking.

Speaker 1 (36:50):
Yeah, exactly, Okay, eyes on the screen, that was the
important thing. So the top five looked like this. Fifth
place was Cellostino Vietti and he almost smaged to drag
himself on podium in the final few laps in front
of him over a second lap. He was closing on
the in the first few laps. In the last few laps,
but it didn't quite have enough time to get it

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done by the end.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
No, one more lab half a lap is all he needed.

Speaker 1 (37:17):
Great, especially with those two fighting like they were.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Exactly and but this.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Is again, once again another boscoscuro managing to fight in
the top five, but it never being the same guy.

Speaker 2 (37:32):
No, it's always different. We spoke about this last week
and it's always different. Now with this chassis, it's strange.
It is coming down to individual preference. Now I do
believe where that rider is strongest at that time. It
goes to show how different the season is this year

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for anyone on a bos Costcuro. It's just insane. For
all those guys that took the jump, Jake, it's not
really pay enough at the minute.

Speaker 1 (38:07):
No, but they're still scoring good results like that, but
not as good as two wins. But yes, no, absolutely
not what they were doing last year at all.

Speaker 2 (38:16):
No, No, it's really nice.

Speaker 1 (38:19):
Fourth race, yes, exactly, fourth place. Then Steve was Diogo Morrera. Yes,
he started on pole and in the first half a
couple of laps I thought he had the pace to
fight for the win, but he was soon dropped by
the top two and ended up in the intense battle
for the last step on the podium.

Speaker 2 (38:38):
Yeah, just didn't quite have the post did for the
top two. But still the battle between him and can
it was all very very good.

Speaker 1 (38:46):
Yeah, yeah, it was just a battle of the race.
Make it was just so good to watch those two
just fight it out.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Yeah, this was proper racing.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
But Aaron Cannet did come out on top for that
one finishing third. He keeps his title, hopes live with
another great race and really showed how much every point
means to him when battling with the Brera it was easier.
As I said, it was easily the battle of the
race and kept me glued to the screen.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
Fantastic battle between those two.

Speaker 1 (39:17):
The second place then, Steve was albert A rain Ass
only his second ever Moto two podium, but a commanding one.
He really kept the winner honest, pushing all the way
to the line, didn't quite have enough to overhaul the
one point five second gap pretty much the entire race.

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Yeah, it was frustrating, but yeah good but honest. Yeah,
a good honest showing he wasn't quite there, but he
was just enough to be a flying ointment. But good,
so good to see.

Speaker 1 (39:50):
Yeah, quite, it's nice when you see someone like Rings
obviously a Mojo three champion who just has gelled well
enough in Moto two that he's always kept his ride
and no one's been kind of criticizing him in the
way we criticize something like he's Anger Vara, because to
be fair, his Moti III title wasn't like He's Anger
VARA's title. It wasn't that dominant win. It was just
a win that made sense at the time and everything

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came together for him. So no one really expected massive
things from him in Moto T No, but every now
and again you do see his name up at the top,
and we've spoken about him in the top five plenty of times.
But it's just nice to see him getting on a podium,
even if it is only a second one in what
eighty something starts he's had now, but still it's he's
probably not Moto GP material, but he's going to be

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in Moto two for a while.

Speaker 2 (40:35):
I imagine, Yeah, he's I could see this guy becoming
an old stalwart of MOTOTOO. He's just going to be
an old hand eventually with a bag full of podiums,
a couple of wins, and he's just going to end
up being that guy, the benchmark guy that you've got
to level yourself against.

Speaker 1 (40:52):
Yeah, exactly. You never know. He might end up if
he's there for long enough, pulling off some Aaron Cannett
type career where it takes time to get there, but
when he does get there, he starts pushing and then maybe,
much like he's being rumored about Aaron Cannett right now,
end up with a big money World Superbike ride offer.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Yes, that is true, that is very true. Well, but
I have to keep watching his career and see what happens.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Yes, and then winning this one, Steve taking his fourth
win of the season. Manuel Gonzales back to the top
after a couple of rough rounds.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
Yeah, he has had a couple of rough rounds, but
he's back to winning ways. Yeah. I don't know. I
feel like there's more to come from this guy, but
I want to see him just do a few different things,
fight his way through the pack, good scraps and battles.
I just keep proving. At the minute, it feels like

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he's got it in the back almost. I's want to
see a bit more on the CV yet, before I
get too hyped up.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
I think this is the first race is one that
wasn't from pole position, though he did have a bit
of a fight back this so I think he started
eighth maybe, but then actually had an amazing launch and
was like in third by turn.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
One turn one, he was pretty much up there, so
he didn't have to do that much fighting, just had
to keep a rain. That's on. It's all all race.
But I know, I like the guy I was in
a win. But there's a big part of my rooting
for Kennet, so I'm.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Just like, I kind of feel the same way. Actually,
I'm sort of really rooting for Canet just because you're like,
come on, finally, it's got to be his year exactly,
So I am kind of rooting for him. And but
Gonzanas has now opened up a small gap on his
compatriots and championship rival. I can't what it is now.
Let me have a quick look. It's nine points between

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the championship. It's not equal going into this race.

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, it's still close. It's still close to be bloody entertaining.
So I don't know, it's still anyone's to win. I
think we just keep a close siy on this one,
most so to as in I'm sure it's going to
be entertaining as hell. Yeah, role on this weekend. It's
not Tuesday. By the time you listen to this at
we Wednesday whenever. I's can't wait. I want to.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Excited for.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
That's got what I always love. Assen. There's been some
fantastic races, and it's just around the corner. He's literally
just there.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, quiet is one of those tracks, isn't it. It's
Assen and there's Philip Island and there's Magello and you
kind of get really buzzed for all three.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah, you do. If they could all be one after
the other, a triple ahead of weekends, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
I n I'd rather they were just spread out, one
to start the year, one to end of the year,
and and on for the middle. But I'm not convinced
any of them would be good at the start of
the season or the end of the year.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Might be okay, Actually, Philipilo maybe I don't know. They's
spread them out. Keep the jaw.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Spread, yeah exactly. Speaking of spreading joy, Steve, Let's take
a quick break and then when we come back, we
will dive into the Moto GP races. Let's do it, buddy,
good stuff. So guys, better with us for just one
moment and we will be right back with you. Thank

(44:34):
you for bearing with us. We are back well, lad
as RMT beers are full and we are ready to
crack on. We're talking about the Moto GP races.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
We certainly are. It's good. I like it. Oddly enough,
your beer opening there did not come through my headphones.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
No, it was quite a pathetic opening. Actually it was
kind of like a oh, so that's what you get
for drinking Cronenberg sixteen sixty four. They don't open with
the satisfying sound.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
Sadly, No, I have to have a word with Cantona.
It's all that outs on. Really, it's all right. It's
not a no.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
I'm not no meanly, but but it was left behind
in the hostel with the free label, so I was like,
free label essentially means tim.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Yeah, translates into mine exactly.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
That's kind of the rule here of his booze. Un't
trust guests with booze, so if they if booze is
left for free, it makes its way into my cupboard.
For the safety of everyone, that's it.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
In the interest of public safety, we will drink the
booze for you and ensure your safety and responsibility and
enjoyment of the Scottish Highlands.

Speaker 1 (45:52):
Exactly exactly. The other day, Steve, this is a funny story.
I watched him. I walked into the hostel at more time.
Must have been five o'clock in the morning or something,
so first thing, and I'm always the first person up
and about, and I wandered in and the front door
was propped open using a statue of a mushroom that

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is made of concrete and weighs a lot that is
usually over in the corner of the foyer area. And
this the door had damaged this statue. So I was like,
what the fuck's happening here? Fine, whatever, wandered through to
the kitchen and realized the back door of the lady's
bathroom was also propped open, just the fire escape, and
that had been propped open with a rock. What's happening here?

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Why are these doors all open? So I went on
the cameras and checked. A lovely guest slaughtered at that
two point thirty in the morning, had just been stumbling
around for the hostel, and he propped the front door
open using this statue and broken it, and then he'd
let himself into the lady's bathrooms and then gone to
the back door of the lady's bathrooms and picked up
a handful of stones and just started throwing them at

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the windows of the hostel and then stumbled off the
bed quite soon after, propping all the doors open and
throwing stones around and trashing the place. And in the
morning according through to the office to be like what
are you talking about? And he didn't speak. He spoke
very little English, was quite hard. And then there was like,
I'll just show him the video fish and I just
showed him the CCTV and he went no, and does

(47:19):
it not know? I was like, yes, that's you Like,
yes me. I was like, well, what are you doing?
I was drunk, so I can see that, yes, very drunk.
I was like, wow, okay, so fair enough whatever, crack on,
I'm charging you to the statue. And that was that.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
So that was fun.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (47:41):
Where was it from a career?

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Oh right, fair enough?

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Yeah, Republic of obviously, yes.

Speaker 2 (47:49):
Yeah, no, fair enough. At least he had a good time.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Yeah, quite quite so. Yeah, that was That was an
interesting one. When I was trying to translate through like
the phone app that I am. You're gonna to pay
for that statue that you broke.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
And no, my mornings don't start as interesting as that.
My evenings do, apparently, as I just found out. But
there we go.

Speaker 1 (48:12):
That's a the joy of working with people, Steve, These
things happen.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Don't Yeah, I'll come back to working with people. That
was a big mistake. But there we go, different story.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Yeah, let's get back to Motoorgip then, Steve, because that's
actually the sprint race wasn't all that exciting. It could
have been, but it wasn't. And the main Grand Prix
was really exciting for the first half and then sort
of petered out a little bit unfortunately.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah. Yeah, and these were still good, very very good,
lots of talking points, but yeah, they weren't as good
as the other two. But still I really enjoyed them.

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Yeah, me too. But it does make you sort of
miss the days of Davisioso, who would control the race
and then unleash everything in the last two or three laps.
So the race was building and building and building and
getting amazing at the end, whereas now, and I understand
it's a lot to do with the launch devices, the
front tires, et cetera, et cetera, but the races are
really exciting for the first two or three laps and
then they peter out. I much prefer them to be

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a bit boring and then get exciting at the end.

Speaker 2 (49:12):
Yes, yeah, I'm weird you on that one, I really am.
But this is what we got, so we'll talk about
it exactly.

Speaker 1 (49:20):
So let's talk about the sprint first, then Steve, and
we'll cover the top five and see where the conversation
takes us. Yes, so fifth place in this one was Fabio,
Digian Andtonio. And this was the start of a great
weekend from Fabio. He had great pace, but I felt
like he was pretty quiet in the sprint, just riding

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well and sneaking into the top five.

Speaker 2 (49:43):
Yeah, I feel the same. Just went about his sprint
race in a very calm and controlled boy and just
kind of snuck up there. And that's about it really.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, There's not much more to say. We
see a lot of him on the TV, but you know,
top five, decent chunk of points.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
That'll be a job, Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Fourth place in the sprint, Steve was Maverick Vinyaral is
my man. So on board the hype train. Now I'm
considering getting a Vinyarda's tatto.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
I like it.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
Yeah, great, last great weekend, mate, And last week we
did say that we expected Math to do well and
he was right. He had an amazing pace of weekend.
He was easily the fastest KTM and is properly showed
what he's capable of. This year. It feels like this
just KTM Maverick Vinyaral is just combination is working beautifully.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
It isn't the minute, it really is. He is starting
to come on for We're starting to come on. He
is on form. So yeah, I'm jumping on the hype
train asen. I think it's going to be I want
to say as good, but I don't think it's be
quite as good. This high speed track really suited that KTM,

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So I don't know he's going to be up there.
I'm sure of it. I'm quite sure he's going to
be in the top five.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
No, it's interesting. We'll have to wait and see because
I don't know. I'm kind of expecting him to kind
of as the season rolls on, to be more of
this like Alex Marquez and just previous forms out of the
window and we'll just see what happens. But the more
I see him performing on this KTM man, the more
I wish he'd moved over to Dukati when he was
doing his big yamask and we know Jakati was super
keen on getting him for a while, but he wasn't interested.

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And I kind of think, man, even though the Ducati
at the time wasn't the bike is now, but it
was still much more like the KTM, it might have
been the bike like in that what twenty eighteen twenty
nineteen period, you know, it could have been the bike
to take him to a championship. And I feel like
I think we as fans really missed out on seeing

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Maverick on a Ducati.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Yeah, I completely agree. I think that would have been
a good move. Like you say, not the machine it
is now, but still a hell of a machine. I
think you're right. It could have been a missed opportunity.
But which is where we find ourselves.

Speaker 1 (52:10):
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Maybe Steve will do another speculative Patreon
show and we'll talk about what would have happened if
Maverick had signed for Ducati.

Speaker 2 (52:21):
That would be an interesting one. Yeah, that could be
a good one.

Speaker 1 (52:26):
I think that would be fun anyway. A third place
in this one, speaking of Ducati's was a Peco bag Nia. Yes,
the hometown hero, the man who has owned Migello the
last five races, three rounds of five races, because two
of those rounds had sprints as well, Peco has won

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except for this weekend. But all signs were good for Peco.
In the sprint, as per usual this year, he didn't
quite have the pace of the Marquez brothers, but it
looked pretty comfortable in the third, much like he did
at the start of the year. Kind of rud guitar
just a little bit off. Even when he got close,
he couldn't quite make the moves. This seems to be
Peco's problem this year. He can't quite make the moves
when he's in the dirty air. And even though Maverick

(53:10):
did only finish half a second back, Pecko still looked
pretty solid in third. And I was pretty optimistic for
the GP after he performed like this in the sproom.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Yeah I was as well. It looked good, yeah, good qualifying,
He had good pace. It just can't quite get that
last little bit to really take the fight to the
Marquez brothers, which is frustrating as hell when you watch
him going about his race like we talking about it
a bit more in the main race, it just it

(53:43):
must be so frustrating under that lid, so frustrating, but
he still looked better. He looked better than what he
did in the last couple of rounds and then sprints,
so that's a positive to take away. He's definitely found
a little bit of something. He just needs a bit more, Yeah, something,

(54:03):
I can't see what it is exactly, but he needs
to just whether it's confidence or just a bit of feeling.
Everyone's saying, it's still the front end feel. It's that
bike looks snappy for the sprint, it looks snappy for
the race. Whatever that little problem is needs addressing, and
he will be fine. He'll be absolutely fine. This need
to find that one little cure.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
Yeah, I'm not convinced there is a cure, and I
think he is coming round to that train of thought
as well. I think the cure is next year's bike.

Speaker 3 (54:30):
Now.

Speaker 1 (54:30):
I don't think there is a cure for what he
wants from this bike and what it's giving him. I'm
not convinced there's going to be a way to Dixie.
I think he's going to have some good weekends across
the year. Over the rest of the year. I think
he may win another race or two, but it's not
going to be much better than that, and he's going
to have to wait until twenty twenty six to get

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potentially back on two G twenty four at that point,
or to you know, have some development done on the
chassis that maybe could help him out.

Speaker 2 (55:00):
He needs something, whatever that is. He needs something, but
still not bad. A third place in the sprint not
bad for him.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
Yeah, second place then Steve exactly. Second place was Alex
Marquez literally, no words, move on, just yeah, quite and
Mark Marquez wins the sprint. The two Marquez brothers have
finished one two in every sprint race this year. Mark

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has won eight of those, Alex has won one, but
it has been a Marquez one two in every single one,
which is wild. I cannot think of a year where
the same two rides, and I know we've only got
two years of sprint, so it's probably not fair, but
it did. Peco and Martin last year or the year

(55:53):
before just finished one two for eight, nine races in
a row.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
No, they've bounced all over for the place. From what
I can remember. The consistency these two in sprint races
this year is just unprecedented, It really is. It is
a masterclass in hooking a bike up right all the
way through, and I don't think it's going to stop.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
It feels like it's not going to doesn't It Like
in every race weekend this happens. You're like, this could
just be the season. Now, it's going to take crashes
or something weird to stop this happening.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Now it really is. You're not wrong, which is a shame.
It really is a shame.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
It's a shame in a way. But at the same time,
we still talk about twenty fifteen and Marquez doing ten
race wins on a bounce in this like, woww can
you remember that? Wasn't that incredible? We'll be talking about
this in the same way. It's not that exciting at
the time, but we're living through this amazing period of
like this this historical thing playing out in front of
our eyes. I think we need to try and enjoy

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it for that reason, and to be fair much twenty fourteen,
we all kind of were starting to talk about Marquez
winning every race that year. He'd done ten on the bounce.
It looked like he was unstoppable, and then Bruno happened
and he wasn't even on the podium in that race.
So this kind of one too thing could end very easily.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
It could, Yeah, it really could, but I don't want
it to. I want to see if they could do
this the whole season. And I think a lot of
people are on the train as well, a lot of
people are hating it, but personally, I want to see
if they can go the whole season and just do
a whole season of sprints one, two, all the way through.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
Yeah, and every race that goes on, I want that
more and more as well. It it becomes the more likely
it becomes, I mean it's still not likely, No, with
every race that goes on, it gets more likely. And
every time that happens, I get more and more excited
about the idea of it.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, I do as well. I'm really on board for it.
But we'll have to just watch every race and see
what happens.

Speaker 1 (57:55):
Exactly that exactly. But but you know, Mark did make
a bit of an effort out of this one. He
tried to lose it. He did try a show, to
be fair, We all saw it happen, but he cocked
up at his start. He did not activate his launch
control properly. No, you saw, just as the lights went red,

(58:19):
he revved and apparently when he revved, he heard the
revs went too high, and he went, fuck, I haven't
set my launch control properly. I've got potentially three seconds
until those lights change. I need to change and turn
my launch control on. Fuck I've already got my clutch
pulled in. I can't do it on my left hand.
So he had to take his hand off the throttle,
lean over to his left hand of our whack on

(58:44):
the launch control, bring his hand back, and then go.
And by this point the lights had gone. He hadn't
even looked at the lights. He just heard all of
the other bikes go and just went and just instinctively
just went and managed to. He dropped back to eighth base,
off the line, and by turn two he was back
into third. Amazing. It's madness how much he has in

(59:06):
hand over the rest of the field, and that he
has the processing power in his mind to be able
to rev the bike go well, fuck I'm in trouble
and make a decision there. Like he didn't just go.
I think a lot of riders would have gone, fuck,
I'm doing this out launch control. This is not going
to be great, but we're going to have to do it.
But he knew it was a long run down to
the line. He knew he was going to lose a

(59:27):
shitload of time, and instantly he went, I need to
turn on that lunch control, leaned over, turned it on
and then again, even with all this going on, heard
everyone else launch, and that's why he just let go
of the clutch, pulled the throttle and went. He didn't
look at the lights, he didn't see them change, but
he just was so aware of everything happening around him
that he was able to get that done and yes,

(59:49):
eighth place, and then breaking into turn one, he managed
to dive up the inside of a shipload of people
and it was back into third by turn two. Like
the guy has so much in hand over the rest
of the field right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
Yeah, it is quite scary when you watch that happen.
He looks so calm, just so smooth about it. He's
just lean over, tap that too, this boom off. I
went like just an easy Sunday ride. And that is
the most scary thing to be because this guy, like
you say, has got so much in hand and so
much over everyone else and just his racecraft, racing knowledge

(01:00:23):
and presence of mind. Yeah, that's scary as fuck. And
it just goes. He is the new goats, and he's
solidifying that with everything that he's doing, and everyone else
should take note and be very very afraid.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Yes quite, it's just those Valentino Rossy, Lewis Hamilton levels
of understanding everything that's going on around you and being
able to make decisions so so fast.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
Yeah, and trust those decisions to be the right one. Sorry,
is just creaking under me, that bad boy. I need something.
It doesn't do it all the time. Every now and
again that the spring of life, like you've only sat
for too long. When you go get I was like,
all right, I can never predict when it's going to happen.
I'll just shift a little bit and things protesting under me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
It's like nope, my legs are a bit of that sometimes.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Yeah, this is my back. Lower back is just like
not today.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
Lad, Yeah, get back in bed.

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
Yeah yeah, day off today. Fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
But yeah, marks mate, there's a man that hasn't got troubles.
Just incredible. Yeah, he's only a couple of years younger
than me. Frustrating me.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I know, sickening, isn't it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:47):
Yeah? Yeah it is, am, I I think it's happened
hasn't it? Am I now older than it? No, Howard Zarco,
I think you may be older.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
No exact, I.

Speaker 1 (01:02:01):
Really Zarco is the oldest rider on the grid now,
isn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
Yeah, so you're thirty four?

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
Yeah, because you just knew that off for Batmante, that
was very good. Zarco is also thirty four.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Birthdays.

Speaker 1 (01:02:19):
Well, he's born in nineteen ninety I was born in
ninety one, so oh yeah he is still he's like
nine months older than me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:28):
Oh fair enough, fair enough. Yeah, it went into your forties, mate.

Speaker 1 (01:02:36):
Especially when Valandier Rossi retires and that's it came over.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Job done, job done, sickman.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
Yeah, but yeah, Zarco is the last one I think
that's older than me. That's sad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:50):
The wheels of time.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
I had the moment when Dobby retired and Delicious Bargo
retired and I was like, well shit, every rider that
was on the grid when I first started watching o
GP has now retired. That was a moment, and when
Zarko retires it will be another one of those moments.

Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
I don't know how many grids I've seen come and go.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Yeah, he's probably seen quite a few riders in your
tired my friend, I've.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
Seen a lot. I really don't want to add them
up because I will be quite depressed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Maybe we should go. Do you remember what the first
race you ever watched was?

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
Nineteen ninety nine? H Rossie was still on the two
stroke nest zero Honda, And I want to say.

Speaker 1 (01:03:37):
Would I be in ninety nine or two thousand?

Speaker 2 (01:03:40):
I think it was nineteen nine nine. I'm sure it's
nineteen nine nine.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
Let's Rossie win the two thousand. I thought two thousand
was Rossy's rookie year.

Speaker 2 (01:03:48):
Uh No, I don't think so. I'm definitely may have
been two thousands. That might be get my time for
I'm sure in ninety nine nine moved to GP.

Speaker 1 (01:04:01):
We're both doing the same thing now, both backing.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
Look Wiki here we are a little Wikipedia fill your time.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
Yeah, there was no Rossi in the nineteen ninety nine lineup.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
I must have been in the two fifties and I
started watching. It was definitely in the two fifties, definitely
on track and that was the I remember watching superbikes
and the old man was like, now you've got a
couple of watch this kid. So it must have been
two fifties.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
Okay, So Rossie had a very dominant year in two fifties. Nine.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
Yeah, sixteen rounds. WHOA.

Speaker 1 (01:04:39):
It's amazing, isn't it. That's the ideal length for a season.
I still think should be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:43):
Yeah. I went to Donington Assen looking at Rizzler Dutch
tt it and you've got the Marlborough Malaysian Grand Prix,
the Marlborough Japanese Gon Prix, Grand Primo Marlboro, the Espania, France,
Italy Grand Primo Marlboro, de Catalonia, Rizzler, Dutch DT, British, Quae, Germany,

(01:05:11):
Czech Republic. I don't know what that says. Imola, Move Start, Valencia, Quantus,
South Africa, Caelefonica, Rio, Groud Primo Marlboro, and de Argentina.
There's a lot of tobacco advertising going on and sponsorship.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Quite amazing, isn't it that motorsports survived the banning of
tobacco advertising.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Surprising name was Lung survived.

Speaker 1 (01:05:39):
Well? Lots of people didn't make it.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
No, I don't know where it was. I don't remember
exactly which one it was, but it must have been
to fifties. Then I thought it was nineteen nine. That
was definitely ninety nine nine. I think I may have
only watched a couple of races and still be like,
nah dat, you're talking shit, I'm going back Calf and

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the superbikes. But yeah, a long time mate.

Speaker 1 (01:06:09):
Yeah, it's all of a bit of a shame. We
could have gone back and rewatched the first races we
ever watched, because I think I could probably find the
one I watched. I'd have to check dates, but it
would be in twoy eleven and it would have been July. Yeah,
so that would have got us races. Could it have

(01:06:31):
been fine? Yeah, in fact there is. It certainly wasn't Lagoona,
which means it was either Magello or Saxon Ring. Well,
I have to go back and I'd have to check
actual dates, but I would probably guess it was Saxon Ring. No,

(01:06:58):
So that would it would be quite fun to just
go back watch that race at some point, I just
do a review on the like the first races we
ever watched for Patroon Show. I think that would be fun.

Speaker 2 (01:07:06):
But yeah, that sounds really good. Actually we'll do that.
I'll try and work out. I'll have to watch the
season again. I can remember in my mind clips of
the race, so I'm sure I saw it. I could
jerk my memory. Yeah, I have to go back and
have a look see. But yeah, that would be a
good Patreon on the show. So for anyone who's listening,

(01:07:27):
isn't over there shameless plug.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
Yeah, yeah, exactly, that's a future show coming your way. Yeah.
I can't really remember much of the first race I
watched because I was pretty out of it on morphine
at the time, but I remember.

Speaker 2 (01:07:38):
Must be floating around with some kind of spaceship mate, mate.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
I was an a great time actually in my life,
having a terrible time, but the great.

Speaker 2 (01:07:46):
Time in that hospital. You're having a terrible time in
your drug fueled new thoria, you were probably on a
fantastic time.

Speaker 1 (01:07:53):
Yeah, exactly exactly. Anyway, let's bring it back to Migello.
That GP related exactly exactly, and you know, just an
interesting look into our lives and when we got into
the sport.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
Yeah, exactly, a long time ago, very depressed.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
Yeah, I mean, twenty eleven feels like a long time ago,
to be fair, But you're going to twelve years ahead
of me on that one.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
I know, and I've probably started watching most sports somewhere
in the region of when did I get into it?
My dad probably some of the reason of nineteen ninety.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
Literally before I was born.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
Yeah, somewhere there was the reason of like ninety years old.

Speaker 1 (01:08:37):
Well, yeah, I think I remember being into like Formula
one in the nineties, like the late nineties. I have
memories of watching Formula One, but yeah, most psych racing
camel for me.

Speaker 2 (01:08:49):
Yeah, Formula One never really broke into my household, thank god.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
My dad was a huge fan, so it was just on,
so we watched a lot of it. And it's weird
how that's hed like interesting that passed down with a
bunch of my siblings. Like we now have one of
our family group chats. We have a themed family group
chats because it's too many family members. So if we
start talking on one, a lot of people get it
bored and mute it. And muting a family group chat

(01:09:14):
is all good and well, but then when you actually
need someone, it's a bit of a pain in the ass.
So we have themed one. So the Formula one one
is like a lot of my siblings and it's quite
interesting how that's just from dad has just passed down
to a bunch of us, Like another one.

Speaker 2 (01:09:29):
Yeah, that just imprinting a love of a thing. It's good.
I like it. I'm doing it with the boys at
the minute. Yeah, they have white noise, which is Wike's
wearing exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
And my brother who lives near you, he will be
watching Formula One with his kids who are roughly the
same age as your kids. So the top five in
this one, Steve looked like this. Yes, fifth place was
Marco Bazeki, another great result from If he can get
on top of his qualifying issues this year, he will
be right at the front most weekends. He had great

(01:10:06):
pace in this one, but it took him a while
to recover from his tenth place starting spot, and in
the end he was about ten seconds off the win.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yeah, this guy only needs to sort his qualifying and
he will be absolutely fine. His pace is fine, he's strong,
everything is still there. It's just qualifying and then getting
up to speed from a lower sort of fighting position
in the pack.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, solve that issue one on that post and he
will be absolutely fine.

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
Yeah, and it does feel like he's kind of just
the last few rounds kind of since that Salesten win.
Really just there's this nice progression in his season now
that Yeah, he kind of looks like he's getting to
grips with that Yamaha and get into grips to be fair,
with being the number one riyer in that team, Like
it was probably quite a shock to be expected to
come into that team be subservient to Juhi Martin and

(01:10:56):
not to be expected to perform, and then to be
without Quwahi Martin. He would have been expected to perform,
and it's probably taken a little while to adjustice mindset
for that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah, I'll save your correction corner. Brilliant.

Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Oh what did I say?

Speaker 2 (01:11:09):
Ya?

Speaker 1 (01:11:11):
Did I really?

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Full of shit? Okay, good stuff? Thank you? Yeah, brilliant.
Oh good, well, I'm glad you were there to saving Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
That's then the tropics of the whatever it was alcohol
you've for drinking fueled by the Cronenberg.

Speaker 1 (01:11:30):
Yeah, that would be exactly it I told you about.
It makes the alcohol hit you harder, apparently it does.
Fourth place in this one, then, Steve peco Agnia, Oh, yes,
a third place in this gave me hope, a fourth

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place in the Grand Prix and now says to me
that the any hope we had of a championship battle
between the championship teammates between the Ducati teammates as slim
as it felt, it's now completely out of the window.

Speaker 2 (01:12:09):
Yeah, this at a track where Peco should have rightfully
reigned supreme. He was schooled quite convincingly this weekend. He
did give us a few tantalizing laps at the start
of the race, which were sublime, absolutely sublime, but that

(01:12:31):
soon phased out. Bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:12:34):
Yeah, the start of the race was amazing seeing Peco
properly battle with Mark. There were late breaking maneuvers. The
two of them were cutting each other super close, and
then Alex Marquez was just in the frail of a
sudden as well, and they were just ducking and weaving,
the three of them between each other. They were properly fighting.
It was amazing and it's such a shame that he

(01:12:55):
didn't have the pace to continue to go with them
for the rest of their race.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
Yeah, that soon It lasted what three and a half laps,
maybe four a push and then it was done.

Speaker 1 (01:13:08):
Yeah, it felt like a bit longer. I think it
was a bit more like seven or eight laps. I
think he was at least close to them, But maybe
the most intense battle was the first thing.

Speaker 2 (01:13:17):
Yeah, I think the intense stuff was the first few laps.
But yeah, he was right there for a long time.
He was keeping them, not honest, he just slipped back
a little bit. I think it was about second second
and a half. I think around most of the races
when he did settle into a rhythm as around eight tens,
seven to eight tenths. Yeah, but those first few laps,
that was Peco of old, a confident battle in Peco,

(01:13:39):
and that's what we need because he can't. He can
still do it. It's still there. The fight, the want,
the determination is all still there. It's just that little
bit he can't hold a torch to these two at
the minute. It's so gusting to see.

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Yeah, quite and it was interesting actually after the race
he was complaining about the front end feeling again, Yeah,
and he was saying that even though he was able
to push and brunt at the front, he couldn't get
the feeling he wanted. The bike wasn't talking to him
in the way he wanted, which is kind of why
he had to eventually slow down to avoid a crash. Yeah,
because he while he knows he can go that fast,

(01:14:18):
he can't actually feel where the limit is until it's
too late, and we saw it in this race. Actually
he had a couple of moments the front, he starts
to lose the front, he managed to catch it, pick
it back up. Okay, job done. But because he can't
feel where that limit is, he can't ride it ninety
nine point nine percent because he doesn't know where that is.
So he knows he can go and he knows he
can probably do it, it didn't actually know when the point

(01:14:43):
he's about to lose it is.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
Yeah, you need to feel that tipping point. You've got
to have that feedback or like you say, you're just
going to override it and end up in the gravel.
And if he can't feel like you can't ride it,
so he's going to slow down. That's natural, doing the
right thing, essentially saving himself from a massive crash. But
also you're going to miss out on championship. So yeah,
it's a hard one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
But then you you can't ride a bike with without
the right fearing fast enough all the time to beat
the tu Marcus brothers right now, Like that's just impossible
because yes, okay, you can go fast enough, but you're
just a crash and that's not good enough. Then then
you lose anyway, and you've lost more.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Points exactly, so salvage what you can. He's done exactly
the right thing. He's took the sixteen points. That's sixteen points,
fifteen twelve. How many points is at twelve?

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Hang on, I've got it in front of me. Thirteen
for a Grand Prix.

Speaker 2 (01:15:38):
That's it. Yeah, Yeah, he's done exactly the right thing.
It's just a shame you can't push on a bit more,
it really is. It's all still in there.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
He's still pack of agniah. He's still a two time
world champion. He's a guy that's won to ship load
of races like. He's still there. It's just that he's
not on the bike he wants right now. And actually
the front end field isn't the only problem. He's all
he can't get the bike to slide around like he
could with the GP twenty four. Yeah, and actually when
you watch this, it's really obvious by the way the
bike is reacting to him underbreaking. He's always been this

(01:16:10):
kind of rider that has been able to kick out
the rear underbreaking and which helps keep the bike stable
and then bring it back in line pretty gently, just
as he needs to tip into the corner, and he's
always been able to do that, and Brad Binder is
very good at this as well, but Echo is a
bit more subtle with the way he does it. Bender's
very obvious. Pecho's a bit more subtle, so it doesn't

(01:16:31):
look quite as dramatic. But the GP twenty five just
isn't letting him do that. It's much more snappy, it's
not smooth like when you watch it. He'll have it
sideways and then it will just snap back into line,
whereas before he back in gently.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
You can say. And he talks about that with Fabio Digiti.
Antonio as well, his bike was doing it, but nowhere
near as much pechos every time you tip that in it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
I'm sure Marquez his bike is doing it too.

Speaker 2 (01:16:57):
I'm sure they all are. It's the ability to limit it,
isn't it. Every rider needs a certain level of things
and Peco just needs that bit more, which isn't The
bike isn't able to give him this year, so it's difficult.
It's really difficult for a factory. Which one do you, please?
Do you find a fifty to fifty medium or between

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Mark and Peko's problems or do you favor one?

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
In my mind, Well, this is the thing though, isn't it.
If you're going to favor one, you kind of have
to Peco because if you go fifty to fifty, Markets
is just gonna win anyway, isn't he. Because right now
I don't know Mark quite likes a snappy bike. I
think we've seen that in the past, but I don't
actually know what Mark likes. He's just capable of riding anything.

Speaker 2 (01:17:45):
So the worst bit we've spoken to people in the past,
he said you can't have him as a test rider
because he will just make every part work. It's that
ability to ride around problems, the Casey Stoner problem, Yeah, exactly,
which Markets can do. Obviously, it was far greater ability
than Peko can at this point. So yeah, it is

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a real shame, But I think Peko will be okay.
But we need to fast forward maybe to twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (01:18:13):
Yeah, quite, because right now he is one hundred and
ten points behind mart Marquez in the championship and seventy
points behind Alex Marquez. He is thirty two points clear
of Morbid early and fourth and forty points clear of
Digit and fifth, and I can't really see either of
them over hauling him as the season goes on. No,
I think third is where he's going to end up.
But this will be his lowest finish. Third place, if

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he finishes there, will be his lowest finish since twenty
twenty when he was riding a parmactic Casty.

Speaker 2 (01:18:39):
That's nuts, big time, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
It also just goes to show actually how good his
last kind of four or five years have been. The
fact that he's been either first or second over the
last four seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
Yeah, he's had a very good run of fall. Yeah.
Not a good weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:18:59):
No, not a good weekend from Peco, even a fourth place.
Like for a lot of riders you'd be like, oh, great,
well done, fourth place. But for Peco, he was supposed
to come in and crush this weekend and exact didn't
play out that way.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
No, not at all. Bless him.

Speaker 1 (01:19:11):
There we go, dethroned, dethrowned, third place. Then in this one,
Steve was once again, well not once again, but once
again we're speaking about him. Fabio digit Antonio. It was
a fantastic weekend for digit amazing pace in the last
part of this race, managing not only to hunt down
but easily overtake Peco in the last couple of laps

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and gap in by about three seconds in the last
two laps, which was wild.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
He just flew. Don't get me wrong. Pecko was slowing
down at this point as well, but Fabio was flying.
The boy was off. It was like a little pocket
rocket at the end of this race. Another massive blow
for Pecho, but a huge grin factor and plus for Fabio.
So there's a lot of those in here.

Speaker 1 (01:19:58):
Yeah, yeah, welcome to Italian naming conventions.

Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
Yes, yeah, here we are. Watch we name your child Fabio?

Speaker 1 (01:20:09):
Yeah, Fabio, son of Antonio g No, son of gian Antonio.
Yeah that's what. Yeah, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 (01:20:20):
Anyway, yeah, Pezzio, Elliot, Yeah Fabio. This weekend brilliant. Can't
take anything.

Speaker 1 (01:20:31):
Away from this boy, No quite, just a really bad,
banging weekend. And actually I'm starting to come around to
the idea that the GP twenty five might now be
getting to the point where it's on equal terms with,
if not starting to outshine, the GP twenty four's, because
if we look here in this top five, we've got

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three GP twenty five's, one GP twenty four and one
a Prillier, and I think that looks like this it
will train. Obviously, Filminaldegat had a really bad weekend here
for some reason. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not really
sure what happened to be. He just did not get
on with the track and the bike. He just couldn't
find the good sayings. But it did feel like the

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GP twenty five is now maybe on on par with
the GP twenty four, and I expect as the season
progresses here, we're going to see more of DIGGI as
he gets to grips with this improved machine up in
the top five spots.

Speaker 2 (01:21:26):
Yeah, I completely agree, it does feel that way. I
think the GP twenty five, we said it would take
about half a season, is and it has nearly not
quite half way yet, but you know, they've they've worked it,
they've ironed out the problems, and now the twenty five
is coming good. Yeah, which, yeah, that's a really good
analogy that showcasters it so well.

Speaker 1 (01:21:45):
Yeah, and all I imagine, do you, Cassie right now,
are just very thankful they've got mart Marquez, because if
it didn't have Matt Marquez right now, Alex Marquez would
be absolutely running away with this championship.

Speaker 2 (01:21:57):
Yeah, he'd be flying, he'd be happy as hell. Yeah,
but they have so Unfortunately for him, he's second.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Yeah, yeah, quite and second in this race as well,
Steve Alex Marquez another second place finisher for the younger
Marquez brother. We've said it over and over again, how
good this season for Alex has been, and it feels
a bit repetitive.

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
Now, yes, yeah, it does feel a bit repetitive, but
they're going having great results, so we can't take anything
away from it.

Speaker 1 (01:22:32):
Yeah. Quite Interestingly, there's been some mounting controversy this weekend
about Alex Marquez, with many fans and pundits moaning the
fact that he doesn't seem like he really wants to
fight with Mark, like he's going a bit easy on
him when Mark is in the lead, and honestly, night

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so that I say, no shit, Yeah, obviously he's going
to be more careful about his brother around other riders.
He's not going to make those marginal moves he's made
in the past to other riders. He's got way more
skin in the game here.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
Yeah. I I don't know. I don't see why people
are really getting too hit up about this. When it
comes to a sibling, you're always going to go a
little bit easy. These two have a very close relationship
that live together. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:23:25):
I don't think they do anymore actually, but for a
very long time.

Speaker 2 (01:23:28):
Yeah, they did for a long time. I don't know,
maybe that Alex has now finally got a girlfriend and
has realized there's other things to life, and it's like
one's a bit of a Alex time.

Speaker 1 (01:23:36):
But I mean, Alex's girlfriend has been at many of
the races, so I think you are bang on there.
I imagine Alex got a girlfriend and then maybe built
a house next door to Mark.

Speaker 2 (01:23:44):
Probably just put a granny and next on the side
they to get It doesn't work anymore, he.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
Doesn't work anymore, but I still need to be close
because Mark really does need someone to open the window
for him.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
Yeah. Yeah, the fridge to the front door, you know,
require heavy manual handling lifting. Bless them. I don't know.
There have been times when it has looked like some
of the overtakes have been slightly more loving and comfortable
than what we would possibly see with other people. And

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I think even though these are thoroughbred races, you cannot
get away from what is ingrained into your mentality, and
that is siblings.

Speaker 1 (01:24:28):
Yeah quite. And to be fair, Mark overtakes Alex in
a different way than he overtakes everyone else. Ye, Like,
he does give him more space, he doesn't take the
Marshall gaps. And even Peco after this race, when he
was asked about this, said, yeah, well obviously, he's like,
I treat the other VR forty six Academy riders differently
than I treat everyone else on track. He's like, I
won't make a move if I think it's going to
be really tight and sketchy, whereas maybe I would make

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that move on someone else. So Pecko understands this, the
riders understand this. It just seems to be us as
fans and the pundits that don't seem to be understanding
this in quite the right way.

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
I think it's so. I think this has been started
by some pundits who wanted to how do I put
it with that leads himself into hot war grab a headline.

Speaker 1 (01:25:10):
Yeah, it's a bit cliqu baity, and I want just
some yeah quite people reading their articles.

Speaker 2 (01:25:16):
Yeah yeah, that's when like your least favorite, well, you'll
you want to pick holes, but you can't. So you're
going to exaggerate the most minuscule thing.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly, because let's face it, Alex isn't
just rolling over and letting Mark win. Everything he does
look like he's trying. Yeah, it's just that he's not
quite as good as his brother. No, And honestly, it's
no shame to be second best in the world. And
the guy that's inverse is potentially the greatest of all time,

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certainly in the conversation for greatest of all time, Like,
there's no shame in that, if nothing else, of a
generational talent and the best right now, there's no shame
in being second into that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:00):
No, not at all. And look at the scalps that
Marquez has from other riders and some arguably more talented
than Alex, and Alex has taken the fight to him
quite consistently, so.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
The only person that's capable of doing it right now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:17):
Yeah exactly, So he's got nothing to be ashamed of
from what he's doing. This is just people picking holes
for the sake of picking holes, and quite frankly, I
think they needed to shut the fuck up and just
concentrate on what the rosing is and that's fantastic at
the minute. So that's my opinion.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
No, I'm with you, Steve, I agree completely. I don't know.
I wouldn't want to be Alex Marquez right now because
I don't know what everyone wants from him. Like there's
times when he was slated throughout his career. He's not
good enough, he shouldn't be here, he's only here because
of his brother. Now he's second best in the world.
Everyone's like, he should be trying harder. He should be,

(01:26:55):
he should be, he should be doing X y Z Like.
It's very strange the way that public opinion of him shifted,
but still he seems to come out on the bad
end of people's opinions. So I really feel for him
because he's an amazing rider, he's amazing winner, like he's
he's amazing. He's just not quite Mark And that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:27:16):
Yeah, that's absolutely fine. It's going to finish the second of
the championship to him this year. I'm convinced it's going
to be a Marquez factory at some point. There's no
shame in what he's doing. People just need to ease
the fuck up on him.

Speaker 1 (01:27:30):
Yeah, quite well, that brings is then on Steve to
the winner in this race, and that is one Mark
Marquez over it now, considering this was supposed to be
a bogie track for Mark and he wasn't supposed to
win here, and he said himself he thought he was
coming in to try and not lose too many points

(01:27:51):
to Alex and Peco. Well it turns out he was
dominant once again. And as I've said, the slim hopes
you had of there being a child challenge this ye
are just up in smoke. Now. Mark is the only
person that can beat Mark this year. And as the
season goes on, I suspect he's going to become more
and more careful, which will likely mean he only wins
by a second rather than a few seconds. But he's

(01:28:15):
maybe not going to be pushing to take as many risks,
and I think it means Attracks like Sapang will expect
Alex to be very good. Mark may well sell for second.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Yeah, yep, this guy at the minute is just unbelievable.
Yeah yeah. This weekend, like you said, was supposed to
be a bogie weekend for him. The guy's just rewriting
the books. He's come back from the biggest injury We've
seen him for a long time, rebuilt his career, essentially

(01:28:46):
taken a new direction, new path, and has just proved
that it doesn't matter what you throw at this guy,
big windows, motorbikes, gravel traps, He's just going to bounce back.

Speaker 1 (01:28:59):
Yeah, right, and this is your huge comeback. Actually, I
hadn't really considered it, but this is the biggest comeback
since Nick doing Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Yeah, how many legs stich together? Which is nuts. Yeah,
the guy's phenomenal and everything he's doing at the minute,
I can't get enough of. I'm fully on the hype train,
love it bits and I would have been stood next
to Davideta Dots shouting at the crowd telling them to
stop booing him all weekend because people just need to

(01:29:29):
get over it.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
I loved that from tod when that happened, because, yeah,
the crowd, obviously, this is a very part of that crowd.
We come to Italy and the fans here are Valentino
Rossi fans even today, like this is one of the
few rounds where there are still more VA forty six
hats in this round than anywhere else other than any

(01:29:53):
other numbers or any other fans like it's it's huge
still Valentino Rossie fans are still en mass here and
Marques is enemy number one to question. It was really
nice though, to see as he was being booed that
yeah Dabele see out there in front of the crowd,

(01:30:14):
being like, ay, he's a fucking Bucari rider, now except him,
come on. And I really liked Marques's response after he
won the race to go down to not only when
he pulled up after winning the race and he was
handed two flags and Mark Marquez ninety three flag and
a Dukati flag, grabbed the Ducati flag and then he

(01:30:34):
went to the Ducati stands and he chucked that down
in the gravel in that Lorenzo land esque kind of
this is me but a Ducati flag in front of
the Dacati stands to be like this, obviously it's all gamesmanship.
We know it's showmanship, but this I am one of
you right now. I am riding for you, guys, like

(01:30:54):
and I think he won over a lot of people
actually this weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:30:57):
Yeah, I think he did. There's still there's always is
going to be haters out there because simply because of
his nationality, especially.

Speaker 1 (01:31:05):
Because he's because he had the balls to challenge Valentine
and Rossi. It's nothing to do to be Spanish, it's
just because he was at his time. When he met
Valentine and Rossie on track, Mark Marquees was better than
Valentine and Rossi. I'm not saying over the length of
their careers, but when the two met each other finally
in my gip, Mark Marquez was the better rider.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
I thought I hinted towards this particular weekend because you know,
Rossie's long gone. Yes, the fan base is still there,
but all these guys now want is an Italian winner. Yeah,
that's what they're looking for. Unfortunately they found themselves not
with an Italian winner, and we're just going to do

(01:31:46):
anything possible to sour that, which is just sad, fucking
it really is. We're here for the sport, not you know, right,
We'll always have our favorites bikes riders, but we're bigger
than that, and Tar Dotsy proved that this weekend.

Speaker 1 (01:32:07):
Yes quite yeah, I enjoyed that lot. I thought that
was very nice, a nice touch. Did you see the
I watched some of the rider parade for the race,
and okay, so during the parade. It turned out that
Peco and Mark got off the bus early and went
into the Ducati stands like as part of the Ducati thing,

(01:32:28):
like Tar Dottsy was there, Gig was there, I think
the Minakarli was there, and there were like just a
bunch of the big Ductti higher ups there and as
they were walking up the stairs, the crowd was just
pair go, pare go, pair go, and Mark just takes
it all of his stride. He's just there smiling and

(01:32:48):
he's waving up people, he's signing things, he's having a
great time. The crowd at this point clearly were not
mar Marquez fans, but oh my god, he just took
an a stride. He just smiled, the waved, he was
having a nice time. He's chatting to g. Gg's cracking up. Honestly,
it looked like mar Marquez was a comedian. The amount
of just adulation he was getting from Gg alone, like

(01:33:09):
there was just love hearts in Gg's eyes while he
was looking at and it was pretty weird actually at times,
but he just took it so well in his stride.
And Pecko through it all looked very uncomfortable, looks just
like he wasn't really enjoying being there. It was very
interesting to watch the two of them react.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I have to watch that, go back and watch that.
I didn't see that at all. I'll try and remember.

Speaker 1 (01:33:29):
Yeah it was. Yeah, it's worth it if you have
a quick rewind to have a look, it's worth it. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:33:33):
Well I won't have a look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
One anyway, Steve. There's a couple more MERGIP talking points
I want to get to before we just recap our
predictions and make predictions for Asen. But we're running pretty long,
so let's take one more quick break and then when
we come back we will finish up.

Speaker 2 (01:33:50):
Yeah, let's do it, buddy.

Speaker 1 (01:33:52):
Excellent. So guys, bear with us for just one moment
and we will be right back with you, and we
are back. Thank you for being with us. Blatterers are empty.

(01:34:15):
Neither one of us has refilled a beer because it's
getting late bedtime. We are ready to just finish up
talking Moto GP. And it's kind of just two things
I want to touch on here, Steve. I'm going to
take these in the opposite order to how I've got
them in the show notes. So firstly, Morbidelli versus Vignalez

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one of the biggest talking points that is outside the
top five for this race. I was rating when this happened, Steve.
You know me, I've been big on mav this year,
and I think he probably would have finished on the
podium and potentially third, maybe second had he not been
wiped out, and that would have given me a bunch

(01:34:56):
of points in the fantasy team. So it's kind of
upset about it. But yeah, Morbid Deli mate just absolutely
cleaned him out. There was like it was like it
looked like just missed his breaking marker. But he claims
that's not what happened. He just said that he touched
him slightly while overtaking, whereas to everyone else, he speared

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into the side of him.

Speaker 2 (01:35:24):
I was going to make a joke, but I can't
every I don't know. It was not a touch, It
was not a touch. It was not a glance, it
was not a graze. It was a full more t
bone that boy was traveling. I don't think he missed

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his breaking market. I think he was just one of
Morbidelli's aggressive overtakes and he got it wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:35:54):
And he's just making a habit of it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Too much of a habit of it. I feel a
little bit despiration in here, Like some of these lunges.
He's he's clearly sometimes on part with a lot of
people in front of him, and you feel I think
he feels like if he's in front, he will have
the pace to bridge that gap or extend that gap.
He just needs to be in front. But overtaking is

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the problem. So he's going to take the risks to
get in front. And he's an aggressive rider anyway, He's
a racy racer, loves his elbows knees out. So when
you add that to combinations, someone's willing to push the
boundary and take these overtakes the extreme, you've got a
potentially dangerous situation.

Speaker 1 (01:36:34):
Yeah, except in this situation, he wasn't in front. He'd
just been overtaken like Maverick was clearly faster. He just
Frankie just could not give up the position.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
No, so he's thought right hard back and even when
there's no hope, he's going to try and find a hope.
So he's going to do it anyway, which and then
someone ends up in the gravel trap like this weekend
happened have been math. So he got the penalty which
was in my eyes, and then fucked it, I have
to do it again.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
Yeah, yeah, quite so. Yeah the one that he got
a single long lap penalty and then yeah, went in
too fast, ran off the outside, so it actually made
his penalty longer than it needed to be, but then
got pink lights because he didn't take the penalty, probably
has to take another long lap to do so there's
been quite a lot of consternation about the penalty, people

(01:37:25):
saying like this wasn't a one long lap penalty. This
deserved at least a double long lap, if not more.
How do you feel about it? Because the stewards said
at the start of the year they were going to
wipe the slate clean. Simon crawfis here. Now they're going
to start again with their Essentially all previous moves were

(01:37:45):
non existent. Any penalties have just been wiped out. We're
starting again from scratch, and this arguably is Frankie's first
time doing a severe move like this in a race.
So I kind of think, going by what the steward said,
it's fair enough that this is just treated as the
first time offense as opposed to a pattern of behavior.

(01:38:07):
But a lot of people feel differently, So I'm just
wondering if you feel like maybe he should have got
a harder one, or whether a single long lap is
fine even if he did end up taking a double
or a double plus.

Speaker 3 (01:38:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:38:17):
I think this is fine because he'd been running in
that position for some time fighting with MAV, and a
single long lap penalty would have been enough to Puniship
if you will. I don't think it was needs for anymore.
The rest of his infractions have all come out of racing.

Speaker 1 (01:38:35):
Yeah, they've kind of all been qualifying in the way
of people or.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Dick for a Sunday bimble. I think it's absolutely fine.
This is his first technical racing incident, if you will.
Although it's hard, this is his first one that's someone
else's race. Yes, he did knock him off, MAV was okay.
I think a one laper is fine for this one.
He sucked himself. We did it wrong, so I think

(01:39:03):
it's absolutely fine. Next race, if we can't last and
he's done it again, then yeah double that would be
a second. So I think this is fine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, exactly, And that's what I was going
to bring up as well. It's like if this happens
again and it's the same kind of really egregious move.
Then I expected to see a harder penalty. But as
it is, as we're going with this kind of the
slaves white clean, we've got Simon profile now kind of
new head of the Stewart panel. Then, as it is,
I'm sort of okay with it being ruling this way,

(01:39:34):
just to keep it fair for the entire field.

Speaker 2 (01:39:36):
Yeah, exactly, I have no problem with it. I think
it's fine.

Speaker 1 (01:39:40):
Yeah. And you know, even for the people that think
he deserves the double, he got a double.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
What it is, everyone's good, right.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
The last thing I want to touch on here, Steve,
is just the special liveries for the weekend, because I
think we saw some beautiful liveries and we saw some
weird liveries, and it was just nice to see a
bunch of special liveries all want to go again.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Yeah, I really enjoyed this. I thought all of them
were nice, somebody another's. But there was one particular one
which I very nearly treated on Zara with.

Speaker 1 (01:40:13):
And I think we have the same opinions. The because
was that the Doucati factory.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
All right, that renaissance livery was just inside that really
was good.

Speaker 1 (01:40:24):
And it was beautiful on every level. They did something
very well here that we don't often see with special
liveries is that up close and stationary, the bike looked
super cool and the closer you looked, the cooler it got. Yes,
but it also looked amazing on the racetrack. From a distance,
it looked almost black. It was a really intimidating looking machine.

(01:40:47):
And yeah, it took me a little while to adjust
and try and work out who was Peco and who
was Mark and what was going on. But you know,
after a few laps marked front, I was in the third,
so that was easy to work out. I think they've
just done. It was just an amazing job with this
livery and the fact that all the team wearing kind
of this Renaissance gear as well, that was that same
kind of livery. It was a really it was just

(01:41:09):
a really well done special livery And it sort of
makes me a little bit upset at how bad their
seventy fifth anniversary livery at Silverstone was last year, because
that was bad and now they're capable of doing this.
What it's only been a year, How have you managed
to pull this out of the back.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
I just did some sketches. I broke out the nict
and crayons. This was a good one. This really was good.
Let you say, described it perfectly all levels wherever you
looked at it, This is good, very very good. And
we always say sometimes we look at special liveries and
we think, Jucati, you've got to release that on a

(01:41:46):
V four pana galley for the road. This one one
needs to be done. Make it a thousand bikes limited
edition line and you will sell everyone overnight there We'll.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
Go, yes, yeah, exactly. Oh you know, just sell it
as an aftermarket kit, just you can replace the fair
and everything. And they were making a thousand sets of.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
It off you go, yeah, happy days.

Speaker 1 (01:42:11):
Yeah. No, I really liked this one, the other Ducati
special livery if your forty six had this. Now, I
very mixed opinions on this livery because I thought when
I first saw it, it looked amazing, super cool. It
was a proper acid and crayon's job it was. It
was beautiful, but it was only beautiful, little stationary and

(01:42:33):
then when you saw it on the track and in
a group and moving around it I just looked a
bit like another SHITTYVR forty six livery like. He just
wasn't good at all.

Speaker 2 (01:42:42):
No, no, sorry, I was attack my knee at the desk.
That's not what you are to do. Everything jump around
up here. I like this, I really did like this.
I'm all for like. This was very rusty esk obviously
his old liveries. But I'm with you on this one.
It looked very good. Its parked, not very good in track,

(01:43:03):
but we'll make a very good Midi Champs collector's bike.

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Yeah that's fair.

Speaker 2 (01:43:08):
You look good on yourself exactly. So this one, at
least I will be purchasing.

Speaker 1 (01:43:17):
Will you be purchasing the Digi version or the more
of a Deli version.

Speaker 2 (01:43:23):
I don't know. Actually, I'll have to see how they
translate them onto the smaller bike. Sometimes shrinkages can make
a big difference sometimes.

Speaker 1 (01:43:33):
So that's what I tell all the ladies.

Speaker 2 (01:43:35):
Yea, I was going to what she told me.

Speaker 1 (01:43:41):
It's been a bit cold today, hasn't It's.

Speaker 2 (01:43:43):
Been a bit chill today. We get the hot water bottle.

Speaker 1 (01:43:51):
Other special liveries then are Prillier. They had this really
nice subtle Italian colors on the bike, like the Italian
flag on the name and on them from Wing. I
thought it didn't stand out much, but it gave me
kind of vibes of the really colorful of brilliance that
we had in years gone by, and I quite liked it.
I just liked the subtlety of it. I thought it
was quite nice.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Yeah, this one had really nice little touches, just enough
to be though, not enough to really distract you like
a song, but just enough.

Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
What and the honestly, mate, if I see someone just
a thought, I'm very distracted. There's no subtlety about it.
And finally, Pramac, I think this was cool too. It
was subtle, it was a good look. But I did

(01:44:44):
feel like, well I was writing the show notes, I
had to go back and look at it again because,
unlike the others, we just did not see any of
it on the TV at all because both Pardak Riders
had a pretty torrent weekend.

Speaker 2 (01:44:55):
Yeah, it was nice, but again, like you said, just
to show we were never really you can just see it.
Sometimes I do think one of the teams that maybe
not going to get so much camera time bother but
it is nice.

Speaker 1 (01:45:07):
Well, they were celebrating a ten year anniversary, weren't they
as a sponsor and they got a lot of camera time.
But pre that there was a big inner, lots of
celebs there. Yeah and so yeah, a lot of people
read was kicking about again, which is nice. I like
sinking who are racist? Because he just seems like such
a lovely man.

Speaker 2 (01:45:24):
Yeah. Yeah, I keep trying to get him on, but
he's not, haven't it. There's a few other celebs are
as well. Eric Banner was there. They all love the jello.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
Who was he?

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
Yeah, Eric Banner was there. He waved the check and flag.

Speaker 1 (01:45:38):
Oh that shows how much fucking attention I was buying.
I didn't see him at all.

Speaker 2 (01:45:41):
Yeah, he was up there. He got a bit of
Telly time.

Speaker 1 (01:45:43):
Okay, okay with Eric Banner is in the whole Eric Banner?
Yeah yeah, okay. Isn't he a racing driver? Now? Doesn't
he race cars? Well?

Speaker 2 (01:45:54):
Absolutely no idea. I haven't spoken to him in I'll drop.

Speaker 1 (01:46:00):
I think he races in like endurance or something. Yeah,
am I making that art? Eric Banner strong passion for racing,
have no Yeah, he's competed in races in Australia. He
did a film called Love the Beast where he was
racing like a documentary film about his racing.

Speaker 2 (01:46:23):
Fair enough, Okay, well there we go. Learn something new
everyday people.

Speaker 1 (01:46:28):
Yeah, yeah, there we go. Who's the other fellow that
does car racing? He's is the Irish guy he was
in three hundred Jered Butler. No, he was someone else
in three hundred. Let me find him quickly. He is

(01:46:48):
Michael Fastbender.

Speaker 2 (01:46:50):
Oh fast Bender.

Speaker 1 (01:46:51):
Yeah, yeah, he does some insurance racing and stuff as well.

Speaker 2 (01:46:54):
I think. Interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:46:58):
But yes, there's there we go celebrity. Right, So let's
bring it to our prediction, Steve. We'll start wrapping this
one up now because we are pushing two.

Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
Hour hours at this big show, big show, big.

Speaker 1 (01:47:11):
Show, indeed, So let's recap our predictions for the race.
For anyone new who has not listened before and has
managed to get this far, congratulations. But this is the
part of the show where Steve and I recap our predictions.
So every week, every race week, Steve and I predict
the podiums for both the Motor GP Sprint and Grand Prix,

(01:47:31):
and then we score ourselves and points. So we get
three points for a rider in the correct position, one
point for a rider on the podium in the incorrect position.
And we're it tallying these points up over the season,
and yeah, we've got our own mini championship going here.
So Steve Tim, let's cover the actual result for the
sprint quickly.

Speaker 2 (01:47:50):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
The actual result was a Mark Marquez win and Alex
Marquez second and a pecobag Nya third ye I predicted
and Mark Marquez win that's three points. Peca Bagnia second
that's one point, and Alex Marquez third that's another point.
That gives me five points for the sprint you predicted,
and Mark Marquez win three points, a Peca Bagnia second

(01:48:14):
one point, and a Mark Oberzeki third, giving you four
points on the sprint. Be by a point on that one,
but don't worry about it, Steve, if you're about to
earn that point back. The Grand Prix, the actual result
was a Mark Marquez win and Alex Marquez second and
fab digan Antonio third. I predicted a Mark Marquez win

(01:48:34):
three points, a Peckabagnia second no points, and the wrong
vir forty six rider in a Frankie Morbidelli third no points,
So that gives me three points you predicted and Mark
markus win three points. A Pecka Bagnia second no points
and Alex Marquez third one point. I gives you four points, Steve.

(01:48:54):
We both scored eight points on the weekend. That brings
our totals up. I go up from sixty three to
seventy one. You go up from sixty nine to seventy seven.
So you are still six points ahead of me, Steve.
Nothing has changed.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
It's all square still, so on to the next.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
One, onto the next one. So it is then time
for our predictions for Asen, Steve. We're not going to
do our usual what we're looking for next week, because
this show will go on until next week if we
do that, So we're just going to predict for Asen
and then we'll talk about everything that happens at Asen
next week.

Speaker 2 (01:49:29):
We shall.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
So for Asen, Steve, I'm predicting a Mark Marquez win
obviously for the sprint. Sorry, this is the Mark Marquez
win and Alex Marquez second and a pecobag Nia third. Yep, solid,
Give me your sprint prediction, Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
I've also gone for a map, but there.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Again, okay, easy, so exactly the same m HM and
your Grand Prix prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:50:01):
I'm going boring this week, I'm going okay, Mark from
Peco from Alex.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
So Mark Peco, Alex Okay. I for the Grand Prix,
am going Mark, Alex Maverick Vinyards Happy days fair enough.
That's yes, that's my prediction on that one. So we
will wait and see. We won't run through the Fantasy League, Steve,
but I will touch on it very briefly because I

(01:50:31):
think you are just two points ahead of me now league.

Speaker 2 (01:50:35):
The little gap where I'm one place ahead of you,
two points ahead, so it's all close over there.

Speaker 1 (01:50:43):
I just know if it hadn't been for Frankie Morgan, dirty.

Speaker 2 (01:50:45):
Mate, absolutely miles ahead. I'm sure. I know I can
load it up and.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
Look, I've got it here in front of me. But yeah,
we've both still got a boost left each, and the
top ten are there, there are. There is only one
boost left in the top ten now, but it is
worth noting that those in eleventh and twelfth have two
boosts left each, as do those in fourteenth and fifteenth,
so there's still a lot of jugglings going on the top.

(01:51:12):
I'm not going to read through the top ten now
because we are running late. So if you're listening, then
you want to know where you are and if you're
in the top ten, just go and have a look
at log in and next week we will it's not
a triple header, is it, So we probably won't even
talk about it next week, but following week we really
dive into the top ten.

Speaker 2 (01:51:28):
Yes we will. We'll give you a few weeks to
giggle about.

Speaker 1 (01:51:31):
Up there, exactly exactly so then Steve, that does bring
us to the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:51:39):
It's a long ee but worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:42):
The longie. It was always going to be mate. The
race review shows always are.

Speaker 2 (01:51:46):
These ones are long, but they're worth it. It's good.
I enjoy it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:50):
Yeah, quite so, guys. If you have any questions, any comments,
anything you want to say to us, you can find
us on We.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
Are for the Love of Motor GP and you can
find on Instagram and Twitter, or come and join the
Facebook community. We've had a few people join over there
this week. That's been good. Thank you a welcome on board.
Get in there, get your opinions to go in. If
you've got anything else for us, Creachy Corner, anything you
wants chats about, tell us where you are in the
Fantasy League, anything at all, drop us an email we

(01:52:18):
are for the LOVEMOTOGP at gmail dot com.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Excellent, and we are also over on Patreon. So if
you like what we do and you want to help
us out come and chuck us a couple of quid
a month, it would be much appreciated. For that, you
will get a monthly exclusive Patreon show the I don't
actually know if the second part of the what Happened
to Every Moto three Champion is out yet, but it

(01:52:42):
will be very soon. And I am just finalizing the
show notes Steve for our next couple of shows, which
will be the Moto two Champions version of this, and
I'm also considering Steve. The ideas are flowing for this one.
But maybe a look back on superbike riders that have
come across to Moto GP in honor of top rack

(01:53:04):
ratskalieol Clue and his arrival into MOGP next season.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
That would be a good show.

Speaker 1 (01:53:08):
I like that, so yeah, I think that would be fun.
So we will do one of those as well. And yes,
along with our rewatching the first Moto GP races we
ever watched.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Nice. Yeah, the list is long. Your shows people, we
said we keep up with this year and.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
We have We're doing very well this year, Duve. We're
now halfway through the year and we have managed to
get out at least one show a month. We're actually
averaging more than one show a month, so we're.

Speaker 2 (01:53:31):
Doing okay, excellent. That's what we like.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
So guys, that's the end of this one. Thank you
for staying with us through this show. Thank you for
listening to this and as many others as you have.
We hope you stick with us to listen to more
in the future. But until then, stay safe and look
after each other, and we will speak to you after asen. Goodbye,
Take care, guys. Music is by Andrew Greenwood.

Speaker 3 (01:53:57):
Thanks for listening. Goodbye, Understan, underst unders Underscoposcope, stops

Speaker 1 (01:54:25):
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