A Conspiracy Conversation, From Atlantis & The Vril, to Tesla, Time Travel & Zombies | Guy Anderson - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
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(01:08):
podcasts and content creators. Today, I want to welcome back
to the show Guy Anderson. He is an author and researcher.
It started his fascination with conspiracy theories and the hidden
occult history at a very young age. His recent books
focus on the mysteries of the Tartarian Empire, and he

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has a new book about conspiracy theories.

Speaker 1 (01:32):
Guy, welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
I'm doing really well.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thanks, how you excellent man. It's great to have you
back on. Really enjoyed our conversations. Last time we focused
on your work with Tartaria and looking into alternative history. Today,
I'm really excited to share your book, Conspiracy Theories From
My Gartha to Zombies. The title says a lot, but

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you focus on many compelling theories that have surfaced over
the years that probably come across this show many times.
My audience is most likely familiar with many of them,
but you go very deep and you give some great
insights into the possibilities surrounding these conspiracy theories. So really

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looking forward to sharing this with the audience. Before we do,
it's been a little while, remind the audience just a
little bit about yourself and let them know how they
can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:34):
So, I suppose the best way of describing me is
I'm a conspiracy theorist and I love that term, will
hate it that is exactly what I am. And I've
been researching conspiracies for over thirty years. I joined the
Freemason's become a Master Freemason. I'm an ordained church minister.

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I've done everything I can think of to get more information,
you know, by hook or by crook, you know, I'll dig.
But I've been following people like David Iike for a
long time, and obviously moving on to the work of
Graham Hancott, Freddy Silver and so on, Zacharai Sitchin. I

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suppose my primary focus is Tartaria. That's always going to
be my favorite conspiracy because I believe that's the biggest
of them all. But obviously human cloning is probably secondary
to that, and I've been researching human cloning longer. And yeah,

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so a couple of years ago I wrote a book
on Tartaria. I didn't know if anybody would buy it
or not, and they did, and now it's available in
Japanese and in Polish, in German, and yeah, and since
then I've written a book on cloning called Rise of
the Clones.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
And then my latest book is eighty seven of.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
My favorite conspiracy theories, and they're based upon my website, blog,
and the posts I put on Facebook every day, but
they're expanded upon and obviously I don't have an algorithm
in my book, so I can say exactly what I mean.
So it's dark, it's nightmare fuel. It's not for everyone,

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but you know, I certainly wouldn't want to give it
to someone who'd just had a booster.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
It makes a lot, so yeah, they get a free out.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
If you were pressured to say your favorite conspiracies of
all time, maybe top two or three, which would those.

Speaker 4 (04:45):
Be, Well, it's definitely is Tartaria. Definitely Tartaria. And followed
by that, I mean it's not a conspiracy, but I
would like to know what happens behind closed doors in

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places like the World Economic Forum, in a meeting between
bloodline families, you know, but that's not actually a conspiracy
because we already know that they're up to nefarious things,
so it's not a conspiracy as such. And also religion,
I would like to know did that all start from
the Sumerian text?

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Is God? And you know when it's plural in the artistament?
Is that inking enlil? If not, who is it? You know?
Who made us? Was it the annarchy?

Speaker 4 (05:36):
The Elohim, you know who. So I suppose our creation,
Now that is a conspiracy because we've had that hidden
from us. So I suppose our creation, you know, who
put us here? How were we created? And for what
purpose was it for? As a slave race? So I
suppose that is a conspiracy. People do, I'm sure, know

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exactly how we got here, but they're not sharing it
with us. So our creation would be the next one.
And I think after that, I would like to know
what's going on in Antarctica.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Is it an ice wall or is it a continent?

Speaker 4 (06:17):
Yeah, because there'll be people out there saying, of course
it's just a continent, you know, and of course there's
an ice wall. Or a friend of mine, I've been
told this a few times. A friend of mine went
to the art to Antarctica and.

Speaker 3 (06:28):
He was allowed on it.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Yeah, well he wasn't allowed to fly over it was
he was. He didn't see all of it, you know,
he went to a very limited, you know kind of section.
If you like that, that they're allowing reduced numbers of
people to go, and is it I imagine it quite
at quite some cost. So yeah, I think that, yeah,

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because that in itself instantly takes us into is it
a flat Earth or are we on a spinning ball?
That answers a lot of questions. Not need you get
to find out what's going on in Antarctica? You might
well get to find out exactly what the structure of
the Earth is and if there's anything else out there.
So that kind of you know, ticks a few bucks

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in one. What about you?

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Lately? I have been looking into the nature of reality
as it relates to the afterlife, how there is profound
crossover between paranormal experiences and altered states and dreams, and
basically what lies beyond our perception and what are we

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doing here? It's a big question, But the nature of
reality itself is really what I've been focusing on a lot.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
So this would this would answer are we in a simulation?
A lot of people are big on that at the moment.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
I keep hearing it more and more people now that
there's more awareness of the level of deception and corruption,
they start to question everything in the deeper they dig
it unfortunately brings up more questions. A lot of people
are at the point where they're just throwing their hands

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up and saying, it looks like everything is fake. It
looks like everything is theater. The level of theatrics that
we have to deal with in this reality is beyond
most people's ability to fathom. Really, it goes pretty deep,
and we'll get into some of that. Because this is
a conspiracy show. You've got a conspiracy book, so let's go.

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Let's start with some of the ones in your book.
We may get to some that aren't even in your book.
But going back to our ancient past, you do write
about Atlantis. What are some of your favorite aspects about
the Atlantis conspiracy.

Speaker 4 (08:54):
It's something that I think they tried to revive into Tartaria,
And when I give talks on Tartaria, I always describe
it as being an echo of Atlantis, and I think
that that's what they were trying to reproduce. And I
think that and this is as you know, as I've
stated accoltimes. Think it's just my thoughts on it because

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we can't prove.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Any of this.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Obviously, there'll be people out there that think they can,
but I think other than the Vatican vaults and the
Deep State, none of us really know for sure. But
I think that their ethos, their way of life, was
handed down through priesthood, because that appears to be how
a lot of the Tartarian masters were getting information on

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how to harness energy from the ether and how to
build using simatics. So I think that Atlantis would be
a magnificent version, you know, of Tartaria. If we look
at some of the incredible cathedrals and star thoughts we
have across the Earth, well we could amplify that several times,

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maybe tenfold. You know, if we think about what Atlantis
looked like with regard to its location, I think it's
the eye of the Sahara. Interesting, Yeah, yeah, because that
does not look like a natural formation. Yeah, and it

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seen rings, it looks and you know, if we bear
in my sort of water levels and so on at
the time, then it could well have been.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Surrounded by water.

Speaker 4 (10:41):
So yeah, And I've been chatting about this with someone
called Roger Spur. He's got a channel called Mud Fossil University.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
Now he's my go to guy on anything like that.
When it's you know, if it's a mountain, if it's
an anomaly, if it's on Google Earth and you can
find you know, and you can zoom in and find
something unusual, he will dig you know, he's even been
he's traveled, found rocks that appear to be giant feet

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and toes and actually paid to have them independently tested
and found human human DNA in them, and he's presented
work to Harvard Jow Johns Hopkins. So yeah, that's the
location for it, and for me, it kind of resonates
with Tartaria, but on a more grander scale.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Do you think Edgar Casey's visions of Atlantis were at
all accurate?

Speaker 4 (11:43):
That's the problem, isn't it. How could we know? How
could we possibly know? And that that's the same with
so many of these conspiracies that are similar to Atlanti's,
like the ice Walls or like a Gartha.

Speaker 3 (12:00):
We don't know what you know? The moon is another one.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
So I.

Speaker 4 (12:06):
Can't answer that question because I've got nothing to compare
it to. I mean, the first we have is really Plato,
and that was handed down to him. You know, that
wasn't a first hand account that was passed to him,
wasn't it. That was shared knowledge? So I don't know.
I don't Yeah, I don't know what we've got to

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compare it to.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Frankly, based on the evidence that we have, do you
believe that the level of understanding and technology wasn't necessarily
something of sci fi or what we're relating technology to today,
but more of deeper understandings of nature and energy and

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construction and harmoniously work with energy and nature.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
So the comparison would be, if we had to pick one,
are we thinking that it is very very high level technology,
very advanced tech, you know, perhaps beyond what they're using
in dumb bases, or is this actually more spiritual to

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a degree? And I think it's that, And I think
that actually there is a possibility and a lot of
people are you know, looking into this and exploring it,
that this is manifested because every single particle, you know,

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every single part of anything. We're all just matter, aren't we,
And we can form matter. So imagine the power of
one hundred people that understands cimatics, vibration and frequency together
manifesting at the same time without you know, e m

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F and without you know, a calcified paneal gland and
so on.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
What what is possible?

Speaker 4 (14:10):
So I think it may well be for it to align,
you know, with constellations and you know, resonate at the
four hundred and thirty two hertz. That's a very much
a that's inside. That's not a physical thing, is it.
That's an understanding of frequency and vibration.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
And I think that.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I think there is perhaps some credit in the manifesting this,
you know, yeah, yeah, perhaps sort of. I don't know
this information shared. I don't think it. Obviously it's not
people with a hammer and a chisel. But but are
they laser cutting for example that some of the detail.

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Maybe are they printing it? Is it three D printed?
But you know, is it actually manifested?

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, it's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
So who knows.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
But I do find that more interesting than it being tech,
because that means more, it gives us more information on
the power and the capability we have within our our
own mind.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
Moving forward in history a bit to the era where
we do have a little bit better documentation and understanding,
and maybe our relatives were alive during World War Two,
but you cover some of the events surrounding that era,
the occult aspects that the Nazis may have been involved

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with to achieve the level of technology that they were
working with at the time. The Real Society Project paper clip.
What were some of the aspects that you focused on
in the.

Speaker 4 (15:51):
Book paper clip. I mean that's perhaps the you know,
obviously I've done a chapter on Vril. A lot of
people are are talking about that today because it's constant.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
You know, we've seen the images.

Speaker 4 (16:09):
Of black eyes, and you know, we're thinking that, you know,
they've joined real society, they've had you know, ye, the
insertion behind you know, normally behind their left eye with
seeing photographic So.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
What is your understanding of that, that they're having something
inserted behind their eye when they get the black eye?

Speaker 4 (16:27):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that it's actually something being inserted. Yeah,
that's controlling, yes, But I think it's actually as much
a living organism as it.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Is actually tech.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Gotcha.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
And I think that this is what ultimately products like
neuralink are going to do.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
And I think that that's where that's.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Developed from, because if you think about it, it's doing
the same you know, it's effectively doing the same thing.
It's an electronic device, it's an alien body that's actually
having an element of control over your brain inserted into you. Well,
isn't that what the real is because that's certainly what
neuralink is. So yeah, so I find that fascinating and

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I think that there is perhaps a rabbit hole to
explore that there is real neuralink, And I know there
are other products out there as well, So I'm not
just saying, you know, targeting neuralink, because obviously Gates and
Basos have their own business doing exactly the same thing.
But obviously, you know it's being sold to us as

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something that can help people who have lost perhaps the
use of an arm or you know, they have got
some sort of damage that needs repairing. You know, networks
need reconnecting. But that isn't what it's going to be
sold for ultimately, is it. People are going to buy it,
have it install because they think they can then literally

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react and problem solve and answer questions and regard you
to information as quickly as chat GPT can without having
to do the work.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
Yeah, but if it can do that, then I'm sure
it's a tweak of a button.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
It can do whatever you want it to do, and
then you have an army, or of course you could.

Speaker 3 (18:19):
Just turn them all off. So I think the whole
thrill thing's interesting.

Speaker 2 (18:24):
Yeah, there's a lot of speculation as to how the
level of technology was achieved, even looking at what the
Nazis were using and going back to the possibilities of
what Tesla was developing. His inventions may have been stolen

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essentially and co opted, and the use of time travel
may have been integrated into our reality at some point.
Going back to the level of technology that the Germans
may have had access to, what's your understanding of what

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level of technology they were able to get their hands
on even back during that era.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Well, we you know, you mentioned it earlier on the Bell.
I mean, you know, this is a silver disc flying
saucer essentially, but of course, you know, there are depictions
of that going back hundreds and hundreds of years, thousands
of years, but it's you know, in that particular narrative,

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we're talking about them communicating with grays and potentially you know,
in Antarctica, and that this information is being shared with them,
that they're getting this technology. Of course, you could then
say is it coming through Vril? You know, we've also
you know, we've got people that were very very you know,
major players in you know, Hitler's cabinet if you like,

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that were looking into occultism as well. They spent an
incredible amount of time and resource and money looking into
occulted knowledge and traveling all over the world to get it,
So they were they I think that they understood what
was what was possible, what our potential actually is. And

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again you know this, they weren't looking for blueprints, they
weren't looking for sort of instruction manage on how to
build something. They were looking for a culted knowledge, sacred
knowledge to do with cymatics, you know, sacred geometry. So
that sort of aligns a little bit to the manifestation

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of things.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Going back to Tesla, do you think that he was
able to unlock secrets of time travel and that it
may have been stolen from him? In a sense?

Speaker 4 (20:57):
I don't know, because the problem with Tesla is that
I'm still, having been looking into this for years now,
I'm still trying to find proof that he actually existed
because I often wonder, Yeah, I mean, i'd love him too,
but there's just something very strange going on there, because
you think he's a pioneer of technology, yet there's no

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video footage of him. Now, there'll be people out there
that say, oh, well, that doesn't mean anything, or videos
weren't around then, and that, you know, but you know
where I'm going with this, that there is no footage,
no moving film of him, but there is of Einstein
and there is an edison, which is odd because you

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know that this man was talking at conferences. He was
being paid to attend dinner parties and stand and give
speeches and lectures. He was being interviewed by magazines and newspapers.
This is not a shy person. The other weird thing
is at school, I imagine, you know, if there's anything
like my education, you know, so the mainstream very much

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focuses on me. You don't even hear Tesla's name mentioned once.
Yet he's responsible for the electricity and how it flows
and is operated within the school you're sat in.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
Now that's weird.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
No living descendants, So just like Napoleon and many other
famous people, you know, h. I don't know if we
can say his name on here, but the big H
man with the Charlie Chaplin mustache from World War II.
No living descendants according to mainstream you know, narratives. So

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I find it weird when someone hasn't got any living
descendants and there is no video footage of them at
a time in which they were pioneering things like that,
and it was and he was a giant force in
technology and technological advancement, very very strange. But then that
leads to another rabbit hole where you know, where, if

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he did exist, where was he getting this information from. Now,
if he did exist and he's creating all of these
things that are over three hundred patents and they all
have to work to get a patent, he was reverse engineering.
Someone or something was giving him that information. Now, he
said the Venetians were downloading it to him, and he

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would have blackouts during that process. His mother also had
blackouts and she invented too, She was an inventor. So
he says that it's genetic, it was passed down to him.
We don't know, do we. But I don't think he
was downloading information from the Venetians. I think he was
reverse engineering. But then you know, there is a possibility

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that you know, he was played by Frank Zappa. You know,
the images we see of him are Frank Zappa, like
a lot of people think. And he was created to
put a name to someone who couldn't be traced so
they could slowly release Antiquitech into the mainstream. So at

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a time in which there is an incredible amount of
money for the people doing so, you know, to earn
from it and then slowly releasing technology to a point
now where it harms us, it monitors us, it tracks us.
This is perhaps very old tech. I think we get
the tech when they're finished playing with it and it's

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become something that they can use to make our lives
actually a lot worse through health, through just the way
we live. But so I think there's money and control
into most technology that we have around today.

Speaker 3 (24:41):
Yeah, so yeah, that's kind of where I am. Either he.

Speaker 4 (24:45):
Didn't exist and they just they put a name to
someone slowly released technology and we credit all with one
person that can't be tracked or traced so it can't
be debunked or proven. Or he was being given this stuff,
someone somewhere was sharing information with him, and he was

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reverse engineering Tartarian Atlantean technology.

Speaker 3 (25:09):
Because his obsession was the ether.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
I mean, he made the death ray, and you know
he's making force fields, wasn't he? And he did you know,
the X ray, the remote controlled boats, you know, that
was all him. You know, neon lights. But his passion
really was harnessing energy from the ether. Now that's Atlantean.
That's what the pyramids did.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
You know, there's something older that so interesting way older.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
You mentioned Antarctica earlier, and this is another one of
those that I'm not sure if we will ever be
able to find out in our lifetime what's really happening.
I had a guess that's been on a few times.
Brad Olsen. He actually took a trip down to Antarctica.
He wasn't able to get too far inland. But he's

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also been doing a lot of research into the possibility
of the Nazis building bases down there and having advanced technology.
And he claims to have found old U boat maps
that they were using to send U boats underground to

(26:19):
these secret caverns and canals that went underground through the
ice to get to some of the bases, which is
very interesting. But again I'm not sure if he's able
to validate these maps with anybody. I know he's working
on it. He's writing a book about it. But it
is very interesting some of the evidence and theories that

(26:42):
have come out about the possibilities of what is down
in Antarctica. What are your thoughts about some of those possibilities.

Speaker 4 (26:51):
Well, I didn't know he had done that, So you're
saying that he has the maps or he's seeing them. Yeah,
it's a difficult it's a difficult one. It I mean,
I didn't know that somebody out there had actually seen,
you know, documents suggesting that that that exists and that that.

(27:12):
But but yeah, I mean we know that they were
they were going there by you both. You know, we
kind of know that, don't we, and that they claimed
there was a base there, but I didn't know somebody
you'd spoken to actually has seen the maps of that.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
That's that's neat.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Also did a link to the episode so you can
get the details yourself.

Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, thank you, thank you. But yeah, but
I suppose my.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
My only.

Speaker 4 (27:40):
Reservation would would have to be that we don't know
what we're looking at, do we, Like you said, you know,
to these people, these people perhaps have absolutely no reason
to say that they've got something they haven't. What would
the point be. But you know, there are a lot
of people that do do that, that claim that they

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have things that. Yeah, so I don't know, but I'd
be interested to have a look.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Any thoughts about the theories that have come out about
the possibilities of what's been seen down there, from pyramids
to crashed craft, remnants of Nazi civilizations that possibly still
utilize bases down their entrances to Hollow Earth. There's some
very interesting things that have been speculated.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, absolutely there's something going on there, very very significant,
and I do lean towards it being not only an entrance,
but they're being bases there too. And I have no
doubt that there are structures. I mean, I've seen images
that look very much like statues and pyramids. I've also

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seen what appears to be an area of Antarctica where
some sort of sphere, a spherical object at some speed
has hit, impacted, and then dragged along to somewhat some time,
some distance. I was speaking to someone a little while

(29:14):
ago who knew somebody who had been there, member of
the armed forces, and they had actually been there and
there was a problem. Now someone had got injured and
they had to go into a restricted area to get them.
This person was on shouldn't have been where they were

(29:36):
as soon as they went in there. They're all batting
for the same team. As soon as this person went
in there. This was with a helicopter. Some people appeared
and said, you know, don't care why you're here, don't
care what you're doing. You can't be here, whether you're
saving someone or not. They shouldn't be a you can't go,
don't ever come back, because next time you'll be shot down.

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And they were saying, well, we're we're all part of
the same team, aren't we. They said, you just can't
be here, and that was that, and that that was
an area on Antarctica and that's all they said. That
the people that appeared weren't wearing the same kind of kit.
So that But the most fascinating thing that we have
today to consider with regard to Antarctica has to be

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the treaty. If there's nothing going on there, why would
enemies still abide by it? Sworn enemies are still there.
They're happy to go to war against each other, but
neither of them were back down over the Antarctic Treaty.
They're still prepared to stand united for that, but they're

(30:42):
happy to you know, shoots at each other.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Now that suggests that there is.

Speaker 4 (30:47):
Something on there that is so important that nobody can
ever find out. And we don't know what happens to
people that are working there when they get home.

Speaker 3 (30:58):
Do they ever get home?

Speaker 2 (31:00):
All right?

Speaker 3 (31:01):
You can't have them wandering around.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
While doing research for this book. Were there any conspiracies
that you came across that you had never heard of
or weren't aware of before this?

Speaker 4 (31:16):
No, No, because they are all things that you know
I've written about. So none of these were written for
the book. These were posts and blogs that I've just
expanded upon an uncensored Yes, you know, I've added a
few in there. But no, these were all things that
people will resonate me. I mean, there might be some pigs,
for example, is an interesting one?

Speaker 3 (31:37):
Is that pigs a pig? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (31:40):
Now, some people might have heard of this one. Some
people might not have, but that's not something you would
expect to find in a book on conspiracy theories. A
whole chapter on the pig.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
You know. So that's a good one.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
Now, not to give away too much, but could you
give us a little bit more about what the pigs
is about out?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, so there are a few trains of thoughts on this.
A pig can't look up. It can only look down
the way it's neck and scullar formed. It can only
look at the ground, so it spends its life looking
at the ground.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
It can't look up. It can never look up and
see the sun.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
It is on the ground, looking permanently at mud and
its own excrement.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
It has human eyes. It tastes like us.

Speaker 4 (32:30):
In fact, in some indigenous tribes we are referred to
as the long pig because we taste the same. There
are religions that refuse to eat it. And it appeared
seven thousand years ago. It appeared from nowhere. Now people
say it's a domesticated ball.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
It isn't.

Speaker 4 (32:49):
You can't use a heart from a ball in surgery
on a human and its skin and other tissue. When
I learned to tattoo, I used to be a tattooist
for years. When I learned a tattoo, you learn on
pig skin. Why because it was the closest human. Everything
about that animal suggests that that is wow, that's almost human, certainly,

(33:20):
you know, not a million miles away. So is it
possible that it's a hybrid between the boar and and
the human the Homo sapien.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
Is that possible? And I think it is.

Speaker 4 (33:33):
They burn in the sun, you know, they have eyes
and eye eyelashes just like we did. It's scarily similar.
And of course we have religions that wones eat it.
And that's not because it's too hot in their country
to store it properly because they eat chicken, you know,
and more people get salmonella from chicken than they do pork.

(33:54):
But perhaps that's consumption in the West. Anyway, there are
other people that believe that it is the tormented soul
of someone who committed sin in the previous life's to
look down, never to look up again, and that's why
they're they're they're.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
Human human like.

Speaker 4 (34:15):
Yeah, very very closely connected with the DNA and their composition,
to their sort of molecular structure, the genetics and so
on are very very similar to chimpanzee.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Wow, that's a very interesting one. I'll give you that much.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, but it goes a bit deeper than that, so
I won't spoil it.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
But that's the nuts and bulks.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
So you're also right about Barack Obama. I'm sure my
audience has heard many of the conspiracy theories surrounding this man.
But what did you focus on?

Speaker 3 (34:53):
Well, are we safe? It's not problem right, Okay? Okay?

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Well, obviously, first of all, we can talk about Big Mike.
I think most people know Michael LaVaughn Robinson as being
you know, I've had the misfortune of seeing the tackle
on the move as well. So you know, yeah, so
I think we all we all know that. And obviously
we're seeing photographs of them together at college, so there's

(35:26):
obviously that conspiracy. There's also you know, I put some
truth bombs in there. You know that he carpet bombed
more civilians than any other president of the United States.
The man was an absolute lunatic, you know, a very
nasty piece of work. But of course the other conspiracy

(35:47):
with him as well is the possibility that he is
the grandson of Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Oh really, didn't you know that?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
This is new to me?

Speaker 3 (35:58):
Actually, okay, okay, So and Dunham. So they have Hitler
has three children.

Speaker 4 (36:11):
And they come over to Argentina and then have a
fourth all girls, four girls, one and you know, again
I don't really want to spoil it too much, but
one becomes Angela Merkel, yeah, Eu, Angela Merkle, yeah. Another

(36:31):
one comes becomes Theresa May, and another one becomes An Dunham.
Now these are all sent back to Germany to be educated.
So there's no that you know, the names have changed,
everything is changed that they put into families, and obviously
Thereesa May is educated in England. That they're put into

(36:52):
families in strategic positions. Now, Adolf and Eva have another
daughter called whose name becomes An Dunham. Now Anne Durham.
Dunham marries a Kenyan. Turns out that this Kenyan bloke's
already married, but it's too late.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
She's pregnant.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
So she comes back from Kenya to to Argentina, meets
an American fella. They moved to America, and he raises
the son as his and that's that Sonny is Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
So the mother of Anne Dunham and the mother's Ann
dunhaman and the father is, yeah, Adolf Hitler.

Speaker 4 (37:36):
But but then you know, actually, you know, it's obviously
explained it in great detail that actually came from Elit
de FBI.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
Document.

Speaker 2 (37:46):
Wow, that's so interesting.

Speaker 4 (37:50):
Yeah, so he put his grandchildren and his children into
you know, one way or another, his bloodline went into power.

Speaker 3 (37:58):
He was a wroth child anyway, they all.

Speaker 2 (37:59):
Know, speaking of the Rothschilds and Rockefellers, these are of
course the names that we hear. They obviously had a
massive role to play in setting up the institutions and
essentially resetting civilization, building it in this new dystopian image.

(38:22):
But we never hear any names other than the common
ones that we've been presented to What extent do you
think they hold power? In influence? Are? Do you think
that there are families more powerful than these that we
will never hear about?

Speaker 4 (38:43):
You See, that's the million dollar question, isn't it that
because a lot of people believe, Okay, we've got these
thirteen bloodline families, like obviously the Rothschilds or scene DuPont,
Rockefeller so on, are the thirteen bloodline families that are
are hidden from us? Is it possible that we wouldn't

(39:04):
know the real people we're just given these thirteen families
to obsess over.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
And research. That's exactly the point.

Speaker 4 (39:16):
We're supposed to think that there's another thirteen hidden families.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
They operate in plain sight.

Speaker 4 (39:22):
That's all part of it, you know, that's not only
is that part of the fun, but also they've got
this karmic retribution going on. You know, if they don't
tell us what they're doing, and if they lie and
they deceive and they hide, then when they meet their maker,
then you know, they have to answer for what they've done.

(39:43):
Which is why they're so obsessed with longevity. That's why
they're taking adrenachrome. They don't want to die. They know
that they haven't followed the rules. They're scared of dying.
They want to live as long as they possibly can,
even if it's memory transfer we're talking, you know, project.
They don't want to die. So no, I don't believe

(40:03):
there are thirteen hidden families. I mean, arman Ra said
he was leaving everything to the rah Childs. You know,
that was Marduk, you know, and Anunaki, you know, God
if you know, if you like, so, No I am
I very much think it's those. I think I think
it all stems from the Rothchilds. And then you've got

(40:25):
these cousins and you know, offshoots and so on, but
that bloodline remains as pure as he cant out.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Also very easy to see why many people look towards
non human beings that may be in charge of things beyond,
because every agenda that we are forced to participate in,
there's nothing beneficial for humankind. Everything is anti human. The

(40:54):
more we enter this technological age, the more disconnected we
are from spiritual and nature, and the more strangely anti
human all the agendas and systems become that we're forced
to participate in, and that just makes me wonder, are
these families just multi generationally breeding psychopaths or is there

(41:18):
something else that is feeding that system.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
I think the psychopaths absolutely. I think they're very low vibrational.
I think that's why they like us to suffer. There's
an incredible amount of enjoyment from that. So going to war,
you know, serves two purposes. One, they can depopulate in
flatten an area, get rid of architecture, and get rid

(41:44):
of a few million people. But also there's enjoyment from
watching that happen. I don't think they know how to love.
I don't think they're creative. You couldn't get one of
them to play an instrument particularly well, you know. So
I think that these are they're not the same as us.
They are very very negative, very low low energy. They're parasiticol.

(42:09):
I think they feed off our energy, and they've also
fed off of our tax are hard work, our money.
So they are parasites in every sense of the word.
And that's the best description that I believe that they
are probably a different blood group.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
I lean towards it being rh null, but it may
be a blood group we do not know. From research I.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Did, it was suggested that they don't even have what
we would class as a human blood group, and that
their DNA isn't human. So I think we refer to
them as reptiles because their brain is more reptilian in
how it acts, and that is an unarchy I believe.

(42:52):
Now we know an unarchy isn't a race of people.
We just cool them an unarchy, so alien. Yeah, and
I think perhaps they were perhaps they looked a little
bit reptilian. You know, we don't really know what they
look like, do we. I mean, we've got some arian
tablets and so on, but we don't know what color
they were, you know, where they are sort of a

(43:12):
bluey color? Is that or a greeny color? Was the
skin a bit scaly? I mean ours is under a microscope,
but was there's more evident? So I think that that's
where the whole reptidia think comes.

Speaker 2 (43:26):
I've heard enough testimony from experiencers and people who have
witnessed things like people shape shifting into a reptilian to
think that there's not something to this. I definitely think
that there are forces beyond humans that are at play here.

(43:46):
I couldn't tell you if it was a shape shifting
reptilian or if it's just like you said, maybe an
integrated bloodline different types of human beings. But it is
extremely anti human and it will always bring up that
question whether or not we're dealing with something that is

(44:08):
indeed human or beyond. But I want to get your
thoughts in some of the things that are unfolding right now.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Sorry.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
One thing I wanted to say was actually regarding shape
shifting itself. Now that's I don't I don't know if
that actually is that they are physically changing shape in
front of us, that that actually happens.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I think that they make that they actually make.

Speaker 4 (44:34):
Our minds see something different, and that occasionally there's a glitch.
So what we see isn't actually what they look like,
it's what they want us to think they look like.
A lot of people have researched that and saying by
you know, saying by shape shifting, we don't mean that
actually it's you know, a reptile one minute, a big

(44:55):
lizard you know, for a moment, and then suddenly it
looks like it.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
You have the ability to affect our perception. It's gonna
make a lot of sense with other people's paranormal experiences
where they are having an experience with a being that's
appearing one way, but they have a hypnotic regression and
it turns out that it was a screen memory or

(45:20):
the being appeared completely different than they remember. I wanted
to get your thoughts on what's happening right now in
the UK and otherwise and Canada. It's not quite in
the United States yet, but it's a slippery slope, and
I can see with the right high impact event or

(45:41):
propaganda where it could trickle over here. And that's what's
happening with people being arrested for making social media posts,
for speaking their mind online. And it's pretty insane from
what I hear. But you're there, what are you seeing
over there?

Speaker 4 (46:00):
Over four thousand arrests so far, Yeah, for you know
what people have put on social media.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
I only know.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
I mean, I don't watch the news. I purposely don't
watch the news, but I'm sent information by lots of
people every day. But I will not participate in buying
a newspaper watching a news channel because I know that
what I'm seeing isn't real. But there was quite a
famous case here.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
In the UK.

Speaker 4 (46:31):
I mean, I live in England, you know, as far
along I said, I'm nothing to do with the United Kingdom.
That's a corporation. It doesn't exist, it's just a document.
But so there's a there's a woman from England that
actually has just come out of prison. She she got
sentenced for a tweet. So yeah, it's out of control.

(46:52):
But of course, you know, if you're prepared to fight
these things, you could argue that atally it's the straw
man that's that appears on the paperwork, so there might
be a way round it with that. It's getting harder,
you know. You know, I often wonder why I haven't

(47:13):
been demonetized.

Speaker 3 (47:15):
On YouTube or.

Speaker 4 (47:17):
I mean I have been banned from Facebook and I've
only just started being monetized.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
You know.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
It took me nine months to resolve that it's any recent.
But I I know it's going to get worse. My
wife was saying to me earlier on that they're going
you know, they've announced now meta of announced they're going
to start reading our dms, you know, our messages through
messenger the people, and I laughed.

Speaker 3 (47:42):
And said.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
They probably did that since the start, you know, that's
probably always been the case, but now they're making it
public knowledge, then of course it can be used in
the court of law. Now that that's where it changes.
So yeah, but it's getting below right now.

Speaker 2 (48:01):
It seems what we're experiencing correlates heavily to what could
have possibly happened to the Tartarian Empire. It seems like
we're in the midst of a massive reset, that they're
changing our history, altering our reality in ways that the
next generation will have no idea what happened decades before.

(48:24):
And I was telling my guests yesterday how this is
such a long game, that it's multi generational plot to
enslave the planet basically and cause multiple resets so that
we have no idea about our true history. But if
they tried to roll things out too quickly, people wouldn't

(48:45):
just blindly go along with the non human ideologies. So
they have to have a high impact of in here
a war there, take away a little bit of freedom here,
so that the ridiculous agendas they put out seem a
bit more enticing. Whenever your freedoms are being taken away.
And that's the only way to participate in reality. So

(49:09):
this is going to continue. But where do you see
it all going? And do you have hope that we
still have a chance to slide in a different direction. Maybe?

Speaker 3 (49:23):
Yeah, absolutely I do. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (49:25):
So it's going to get worse before it gets better,
and it's going to get hard because here there's this
big push for digital ID. You know, they want us
to move ultimately to social credit scoring like they have
operating in China. That's where this is heading. And there
are people out there that say it doesn't matter. If
you haven't done anything wrong, then it doesn't matter if

(49:45):
they have it or not. It's good for immigration, of course,
it's not good for immigration. If someone's here illegally, they're
not going to not sign up for digital ID just
in case. They're still going to work and operate under
the radar. For peopleeople that you know, paying cash, it
makes no difference. And the people coming here, you know,

(50:06):
the immigrants that we have arriving by dinghy often on
our shores, are actually the new army. They're going to
be unif trained, uniformed, and that that they're the people
that are going to be patrolling the streets enforcing digital ID.
I think what they're going to do is because the
immigration bits backfired and because the digital idea is having

(50:30):
some resistance. A lot of people are seeing it as
an invasion of privacy that aren't awake. A lot of
these are sleep you know, sheep or whatever you want
to call them, These sleeping souls. They they still think
it's an invasion of privacy. They don't think it's going
to lead to social credit school, and they don't realize
it's going to stop them being able to buy another

(50:51):
steak or bottle of wine this week because of their
carbon intake. They don't believe any of that. They just
see it as an invasion of privacy and a breach
of their human rights.

Speaker 3 (51:02):
So that's causing resistance. So that's fantastic.

Speaker 4 (51:06):
So you know, we've got this situation now where if
they rolled it out, I don't think that many people
would go for it. So they need to do something.
They need to push that back into a narrative about
vaccine passports. So I think there's going to be another pandemic,
another outbreak, but it will target children respiratory again, it

(51:29):
will target children. It will be five G and it
will be a combination of five G and vaccinations you know,
the heavy metals like aluminium and graphine.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
It'll be connected to that. There obviously won't be a virus,
just like there wasn't a COVID. It's you know, we
know what this is. This is all about.

Speaker 4 (51:50):
But they're going to target children, I think, because that's
more powerful. You know, if your son can't play with
my son anymore because yours has had the you know,
hasn't had the vaccine of mine has. I don't want
our kids playing together. That can get parents fighting, that
can have problems at the school gate, that can have
problems with school itself, and out of school clubs like

(52:12):
playing football or rugby or whatever it.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Is you do, or soccer. You know. I think that.

Speaker 4 (52:20):
Children that are a better target than the elderly that
they went full last time. So I reckon another vaccine, sorry,
another pandemic with a vaccine that will just be the
same crap they put in everybody last time, but ramping
up the five G to cause people to collapse. So

(52:41):
that will then make people more inclined to get digital
ID to show their up to date with the vaccines
because they don't want people mixing with their children and
so on. That will be how they get the digital
idea in and I think we'll then see a civil war.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
We live in critical times. How do you find balance
looking at all these theories, doing the work that you do,
and living where you live? How do you navigate through everything,
even with family and friends and trying to be a

(53:18):
part of this dystopian world world while not really being
too much of a part of it?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
If you know what I mean. H yeah, I know
exactly what you mean.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
I think you dip in and out of it, So
you know I'm saying I don't want to be part
of the system. But I have a bank account, I
sell my books on Amazon. I use the system, but
I don't depend on the system, so I don't have
this Stockholm syndrome going on whether the very people I
despise I use or I call upon for help.

Speaker 3 (53:51):
I use the system.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I don't need the government for anything, but I do
need to operate with a couple of the companies that
the world economic foruma friends with. But I don't follow
any government narratives. I don't don't care. You know, I
don't I don't participate, I don't vote. I'm not interested.
But it's going to get harder I think I think

(54:13):
they're going to that. We're going to see shops. A
lot of shops aren't taking cash anymore, so I won't
use them.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I'll go without. I'll go without.

Speaker 4 (54:23):
If it gets to the point where we can't travel
in this we have digital ID.

Speaker 3 (54:27):
Then I'll get a fake one from somewhere. Couldn't give
a shit, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (54:32):
A lot of people did that with the the the
COVID jab's got, you know, fake app that showed that
you were fully up to date.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
So I'll do that, but I've got to be honest.

Speaker 4 (54:44):
You know, some some of the things I write about,
some of the things I say, if a police are
pulled up outside, I would know why. So it is
something I think about. But with friends and family, I
will talk about things that I think are okay. And
if someone in front of me that's a friend, starts
telling me they've just had their winter flu JAB, I

(55:05):
just don't raise the subject. Because what I've learned is
some people can be woken up, some people can be
helped when they wake up, and some people need to
stay asleep. And you can't choose who that's going to be.
So it might mean that you lose friends and family.
It might mean that actually something goes wrong. You know,

(55:25):
they have a vaccine, and then you know they become ill,
and then you know and then ultimately unlived. So you know,
we're going to lose people in both respects along the way.
And I think that, you know, my youngest son often
says that you are You are the sum total of
the five people you spend the most of your time with,

(55:48):
So for me that that can't be people that aren't awake.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
Really, how do you think we should be navigating our
rapidly growing technology things like AI and how we rely
on it and use it. It's already being used for
very deceptive purposes. The quality of imagery and visual that's
come out is indistinguishable almost from reality at times, so

(56:16):
it becomes difficult to navigate through that. What are your
thoughts on where we're at with technology AI and how
we should be handling this in the future.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
I think that.

Speaker 4 (56:31):
Again, it's a little bit like the system. I think
we use it when we need to. So I use
it to generate images to support my posts that I
put up every day. I was a graphic designer years ago.
I do not have the time and I don't have
a bottomless pit of money to pay a graphic designer, yeah,

(56:53):
to do everything I get them to do my books.

Speaker 3 (56:57):
You know.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
It's a guy's a guy called Billy. He does all
all of my graphic design for me. But if I
was to get him to design eighty seven images to
go in that book, then that would cost an incredible
amount of money. So I use it for that, And
I will sometimes go and chat GPT to have an
argument with it, because I find that quite interesting, the

(57:20):
way it starts to try and come off as if
it's offended, and I try and sort of break it,
and then I have to remind it it can't be offended.
It's a computer program, and you know, I have a
bit of fun with it, and I will use I
will use it if I need to get dates quickly
for something. For example, when did someone, when were they?

(57:41):
When did blah blah blah dime? You know, when was
he born? When did he die? If you go on
to Google and type that, in the first hit might
actually be someone who's I don't know, brought out a
poster of this person or a painting. The next one
might be Wikipedia, which is you know, isn't isn't worth
entertaining to stuff? And the next one could be an

(58:02):
article in a newspaper about the person. You could go
through three or four articles to find the answer you're
looking for. So I'll use it to get something I've
forgotten or I'm just unsure about or I can't remember
where I wrote it down. But if you're going to
use AI to replace a human, then that's where the

(58:24):
problem starts. And I think there will be people out
there that are getting it to do their job for
them and the boss doesn't know. There'll be people who
are doing dissertations using AI, and I think that they
might come a cropper because imagine if you secured yourself
a job with this incredible knowledge that you've gotten. An

(58:45):
AI chatch ebt, for example, is doing everything for you.
So you're coming out with all of this information, but
you don't understand it yourself. You're just regurgitating it verbatim. Well,
what happens if you go on to log on one
day and it says this service is no longer available
you need the neural link to upgrade, going I lose

(59:05):
your job or get the neural link? That I think
is where it's headed is a trap, and I don't
think that we should go to the cinema to watch
an ai film. I don't think that people should be
using it.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Like they are.

Speaker 4 (59:20):
People are talking to it like it's a friend. People
are asking it for medical advice, help with their relationship,
and so on. That's the problem that people are making
it personal. It isn't it's a series of ones and zeros.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
One more thing before we let you go today, you've
got zombies in the title of the book. What aspects
of zombies did you write about?

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Well, there are several actually, I mean, first of all,
there is actually people will be able to go online
and research this. There is actually evidence out there, you know,
the classified reports on a staged zombie attack that the
US military have been Yeah, they put a lot of

(01:00:08):
time and resource into that. Yeah, they've actually planned for it.
Oddly enough, they planned for nine to eleven, didn't they.
And they were doing that actual exercise on the day
those planes hit allegedly hit. So yeah, so there's a
bit of information on that. But also the next pandemic

(01:00:28):
that's due the Marburg virus, which is supposed to be
next year, respiratory children, so on, as I said, they're
going to ramp the five G up that's going to
react with the winter flu jab or the COVID jabs
in you, and that is going to get people. That's
going to affect people to an extent where they might
just drop down or it will cause neurological damage and

(01:00:51):
they will appear to be zombie like. So the nickname
for the next outbreak is the zombie virus. It's actually
the mark Berg virus. And if you want to see
it operating in plain sights it check out a very
old film called Outbreak with Dustin Hoffman. That is the
next pandemic. That's what you're seeing there. COVID was a trial,

(01:01:15):
just a dummy run, a warm up that the big
one will be referred to as the zombie virus. So
there are two elements to it. One is that you know,
they're actually already planning for this the second and have
been for a while how to contain and control zombies.

Speaker 3 (01:01:33):
And the other one is that's going to be the nickname.

Speaker 4 (01:01:37):
But of course there are also some interesting stories in
there about people that have come back from the dead
and been used as slave labor, you know, and that's
going back generations that there are people and this this
has happened in sort of within some tribes and communities

(01:01:59):
you know, across South and Erica, that these people have
been buried and then a few days later they've been
exhumed and sent to work, and so they've been seen
working in fields and in minds and so on. But
I don't want to spoil that because that that part's
pretty yeah, yeah, pretty messed up, because I actually give

(01:02:23):
you the names, the places, names of doctors, the lot.
This isn't someone you know, just making out that you
know or passing down sorry, an old story that they
heard like Chinese whispers. This is names and places.

Speaker 2 (01:02:38):
Well, guy, this is fantastic. Before you go, remind the
audience how they can find out more about you and
pick up your books.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Well, Amazon's the easiest place to get one from, but
if you want to sign copy, get in touch with
me through my website. The books aren't on there yet,
my latest book, but they should be soon, but you
can still contact me and I can get a signed
copy out. It's just they're not being uploaded and entered
onto it as a new product. So my website is

(01:03:08):
the best place to find me. If someone wants to
get one of my other books, read my blogs, or
get in touch about getting a signed copy of my
new one. There but that will also link them to
Facebook and YouTube excellent on the home page, and they
might find some of the blogs interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:03:26):
Definitely, so I know I do.

Speaker 3 (01:03:27):
So that's so, that's so thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
That's the Tartarian Empire dot co dot uk, that's the website.
But yeah, so, but but obviously they can get my
books on Amazon. They'll get them quicker and they probably
won't have to pay for shipping. But some people like
signed ones, even though I'm obviously not famous or anything.
Some people I think just like collecting books and they

(01:03:52):
that are signed, and if it's only going to cost
your shipping the difference in price, then but actually, having
said that, I sell their heart. They're hard back for
ten pounds less than Amazon. Amazon set the retail price
on it. But obviously.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
I thought, you don't need to make that much money.
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (01:04:10):
So rather than making you know, Amazon making a bloody
fortune out of each book, I'd rather make two pounds
sixty eight there you go, which is what about three
and a half dollars, And people actually get to read
it rather than get you know, charged a lot of
money from Amazon, but the paperback's half the price, so that.

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