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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a clip from the After Dark Show with
Don Rogers.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You can access the entire episode now on our website
and all podcast platforms. When you're talking about addiction from
the womb, I was actually born with fetal alcohol syndrome
and was addicted to speed because my mother was in
a very abusive relationship. So no addiction actually can start
in the womb. You are one hundred percent correct. I
am whipping evidence of that. And another thing you touched
(00:29):
on is all the times you tried to quit. You
don't quit until you really want to, and that goes
for anything in this life. You'll never actually do it
until you want to do it. You can try to
do it for your family, you can try to do
it for your friends, but until you want to do it,
until you feel like I need to stop this. This
is the wrong part of my life. This isn't where
my soul is meant to be going. You won't right.
(00:53):
People can try to push you, people can try to
convince you. You can try to convince yourself for other
people's reasonings, but you won't do it until you do
it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, yeah, when when it aligns with what where you
want to go? I people people are important, though, I
would like to put that message out there as far
as like. And that's why if anybody just comes to me,
I usually just play if they don't have it, because
by that time, a lot of us, you know, we're
(01:25):
pretty alone and or a lot of people have kind
of like said all right, like I can't be and
they absolutely should, like you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Really it's a hard line.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I could never sit here unless we had specific examples.
And I'm definitely not a professional, but it is like
some families.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Will be like, oh, well, what are we doing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, there's a fine line between enabling and actually just
saying like then, yeah, if you're going to continue to
do this, then then we need to protect ourselves too.
And addiction is absolutely a family disease. Not it's not,
because I see that a lot too. It's like, if
you go get help, everything else is gonna be good.
(02:08):
But unfortunately everybody needs to kind of heal and and
then that way otherwise, I've witnessed it myself. You come
back to people that haven't really healed from, you know,
the trauma that you create. It's just it's like trauma
on trauma on trauma. But then they kind of keep
(02:28):
treating you the same way as WHOA are you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Gonna pick up?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Because you're having a bad day, and then you start
get on edge and then it's a it's not very good.
It's not a very comfortable situation. But support absolutely. I
normally just add say hey, go to AA if you
don't have anybody, because it is a built team. I
have a love hate relationship with AA. I think they're
(02:54):
they're a little bit they need to kind of catch
up to the times because you're not really supposed to
talk about a drug addiction in those rooms, which makes
sense back in the nineteen thirties when everybody was an
alcohol and there wasn't freaking fetanyl to deal with in
that it'd be hard pressed. I worked in a You
three rehab and I could probably count in my hand
(03:15):
five fingers. Does not is more than what actual alcoholics
walked into that place. It was more alcohol was with
other things, but they are more addicted to like you know,
coke and all the other kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I know. You just had an anniversary for your sobriety.
What when did you decide to quit? Quitting is another
huge step because I know a lot of people have
that false start. You know. I went to rehab with
thirteen other guys and I stayed in contact with them briefly,
and it it was terrible because I slowly watched them
(03:56):
fall away back into their addictions. I actually managed to
do it one and done. December second will be my
five years. And again that is, you were the one
that talked me into rehab, and I was one of
the ones that went into quit quitting. When was that
stage for you? When did you hit that? And what
was the anniversary you just had?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And that's so June one, two thousand and eight, say
it's getting Hey, I'm glad it's been so long that
it's starting to be like two thousand and eight or
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But and that's an important thing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So that's why when you said, you know, you're only
gonna sober up.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you want to do it, I agree with that too.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's just it's a it's a gray area, right, like, yes,
you're tired of negative things. Consequence is whatever you want
to say. But it took me six years to get
my first year, and so what I mean by that
and I went I went to school for addictions and everything, and.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I was like, hardcore.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Is way abstinence, that's the and there was harm reduction
was being taught and I was like, yeah, I'm not
getting this at all. And the teacher simply asked me, Daryl,
how long did it take you to get your first year?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Six years? Yeah, harm reduction problem, that's harm reduction.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So so what what that means is just like yeah,
So at thirty I just kind of ran out like
it was becoming I was, yeah, I was sticking needles
in my arms, people were dropping off, and I was
just I can't even remember how I was. Like. I
remember my roommate went to rehabit. I don't even remember
(05:46):
him really going. I was just in the house by myself,
and I just ran out of Basically, in the world
of addiction, your value is if you're holding pretty much,
have you got stuff, You got friends, If you don't
have stuff, you're a leech or you better come up
with a good sales pitch that I'll I'll pay you back. No, honestly,
I'll pay you back. And so it's you know, you
(06:10):
just gotta run out of that stuff, you run out
of the resources to keep using. Then when you're on
oxy's and stuff and alcohol is like one of the
most dangerous Just to stop then then you're just to
you start withdrawing and you're just trying to figure out.
That's usually the best time to get people and say,
(06:30):
you know what, go to rehab. They'll be like, yeah,
I got nothing else, Well can you lend me? No,
you're not getting any money, nothing else, rehab or nothing,
and so usually people will kind of go there.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I would.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's when I went and lived with my parents Manitoulin
Island for about six months. We thought if I stayed
away from it for long enough, but that was also.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Kind of humiliating. I by then, I.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Was like, moved out to BC to go become a
rock star, and now I'm back at home living with
my parents with a deep addiction. Saved up Ui, I
thought we had to talk. Hey, I think I can
go back. Took the bus back from Sudbury to Hamilton.
(07:14):
The girl I was with at the time came to
pick me up and she was all, this is the
Darrel I always wanted. Right from the bus to the car. Yes,
I had two thousand bucks in my bank account, Yes
this is the Darrell you want. But just to the
liquor store one more time. Let's just get a twelve
pack first light, walk out with it, two flour. Two
(07:35):
weeks later, I'm sitting in a hotel with a needle
in my arm, no money left, go to live with
my sister. I screwed that up. She said, as long
as you going to AA. So that was actually my
first AA meeting. Walked by that about twenty times because
there was a bunch of people that looked pretty successful,
(07:56):
laughing and happy. I was looking for the down and
out guy with the paper bag, you know what, And
they actually say, are you looking for ay? And I
was like, yeah, you're in the right place. I didn't
really understand it. Those twelve steps didn't make a whole
lot of sense to me. And then, uh yeah, that
(08:17):
kind of My sister left to go to visit. My
parents left me the house sit and right away, as
soon as they're gone, I was. I went into the
liquor cabinet, found their liquor cabinet. She even put up
a sign she knew me better than I knew me. Darryl,
stop think about what you're about to do. So thought
(08:38):
about it for about three seconds and emptied their liquor
cabinet and then here I am in my thirties, going shit,
my sister's gonna be home.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I gotta get the hell out of here. I'm gonna
get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, totally went and lived with my girlfriend at the
time with her parents, her parents' house, and then it
just kind of kept getting worse from there again, same
old story, to the point where needles are in my
arms and just doing a thing. And then somebody they
(09:12):
were just like I was wasted, and they're just like,
you ever think about rehab? And I was like I
don't know, sure, yeah, whatever. And then the next day
they already had it all set up. They're like, yeah,
we're gonna take you to detox and then the rehab. Yeah,
you solely agreed to it, man, And I'm like, okay.
I went to Arilia. That was a place in Aralia
that was a three month Is that where you went? Yeah,
(09:36):
seventh South Street, Yeah, yeah, so I went there.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was strict to tell though, like you can go napping,
know this, do this. If you're free time, you gotta
go to an AA meeting during during our free time,
we gotta go to AA.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
It's like
This is a clip from the After Dark Show with
Don Rogers.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
You can access the entire episode now on our website
and all podcast platforms. When you're talking about addiction from
the womb, I was actually born with fetal alcohol syndrome
and was addicted to speed because my mother was in
a very abusive relationship. So no addiction actually can start
in the womb. You are one hundred percent correct. I
am whipping evidence of that. And another thing you touched
(00:29):
on is all the times you tried to quit. You
don't quit until you really want to, and that goes
for anything in this life. You'll never actually do it
until you want to do it. You can try to
do it for your family, you can try to do
it for your friends, but until you want to do it,
until you feel like I need to stop this. This
is the wrong part of my life. This isn't where
my soul is meant to be going. You won't right.
(00:53):
People can try to push you, people can try to
convince you. You can try to convince yourself for other
people's reasonings, but you won't do it until you do
it for yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Yes, yeah, when when it aligns with what where you
want to go? I people people are important, though, I
would like to put that message out there as far
as like. And that's why if anybody just comes to me,
I usually just play if they don't have it, because
by that time, a lot of us, you know, we're
(01:25):
pretty alone and or a lot of people have kind
of like said all right, like I can't be and
they absolutely should, like you're not.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Really it's a hard line.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I could never sit here unless we had specific examples.
And I'm definitely not a professional, but it is like
some families.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Will be like, oh, well, what are we doing.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Well, there's a fine line between enabling and actually just
saying like then, yeah, if you're going to continue to
do this, then then we need to protect ourselves too.
And addiction is absolutely a family disease. Not it's not,
because I see that a lot too. It's like, if
you go get help, everything else is gonna be good.
(02:08):
But unfortunately everybody needs to kind of heal and and
then that way otherwise, I've witnessed it myself. You come
back to people that haven't really healed from, you know,
the trauma that you create. It's just it's like trauma
on trauma on trauma. But then they kind of keep
(02:28):
treating you the same way as WHOA are you.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Gonna pick up?
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Because you're having a bad day, and then you start
get on edge and then it's a it's not very good.
It's not a very comfortable situation. But support absolutely. I
normally just add say hey, go to AA if you
don't have anybody, because it is a built team. I
have a love hate relationship with AA. I think they're
(02:54):
they're a little bit they need to kind of catch
up to the times because you're not really supposed to
talk about a drug addiction in those rooms, which makes
sense back in the nineteen thirties when everybody was an
alcohol and there wasn't freaking fetanyl to deal with in
that it'd be hard pressed. I worked in a You
three rehab and I could probably count in my hand
(03:15):
five fingers. Does not is more than what actual alcoholics
walked into that place. It was more alcohol was with
other things, but they are more addicted to like you know,
coke and all the other kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, I know. You just had an anniversary for your sobriety.
What when did you decide to quit? Quitting is another
huge step because I know a lot of people have
that false start. You know. I went to rehab with
thirteen other guys and I stayed in contact with them briefly,
and it it was terrible because I slowly watched them
(03:56):
fall away back into their addictions. I actually managed to
do it one and done. December second will be my
five years. And again that is, you were the one
that talked me into rehab, and I was one of
the ones that went into quit quitting. When was that
stage for you? When did you hit that? And what
was the anniversary you just had?
Speaker 3 (04:16):
And that's so June one, two thousand and eight, say
it's getting Hey, I'm glad it's been so long that
it's starting to be like two thousand and eight or
two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
But and that's an important thing.
Speaker 3 (04:34):
So that's why when you said, you know, you're only
gonna sober up.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
If you want to do it, I agree with that too.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
It's just it's a it's a gray area, right, like, yes,
you're tired of negative things. Consequence is whatever you want
to say. But it took me six years to get
my first year, and so what I mean by that
and I went I went to school for addictions and everything, and.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
I was like, hardcore.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
Is way abstinence, that's the and there was harm reduction
was being taught and I was like, yeah, I'm not
getting this at all. And the teacher simply asked me, Daryl,
how long did it take you to get your first year?
Speaker 1 (05:20):
Six years? Yeah, harm reduction problem, that's harm reduction.
Speaker 3 (05:24):
So so what what that means is just like yeah,
So at thirty I just kind of ran out like
it was becoming I was, yeah, I was sticking needles
in my arms, people were dropping off, and I was
just I can't even remember how I was. Like. I
remember my roommate went to rehabit. I don't even remember
(05:46):
him really going. I was just in the house by myself,
and I just ran out of Basically, in the world
of addiction, your value is if you're holding pretty much,
have you got stuff, You got friends, If you don't
have stuff, you're a leech or you better come up
with a good sales pitch that I'll I'll pay you back. No, honestly,
I'll pay you back. And so it's you know, you
(06:10):
just gotta run out of that stuff, you run out
of the resources to keep using. Then when you're on
oxy's and stuff and alcohol is like one of the
most dangerous Just to stop then then you're just to
you start withdrawing and you're just trying to figure out.
That's usually the best time to get people and say,
(06:30):
you know what, go to rehab. They'll be like, yeah,
I got nothing else, Well can you lend me? No,
you're not getting any money, nothing else, rehab or nothing,
and so usually people will kind of go there.
Speaker 1 (06:42):
I would.
Speaker 3 (06:42):
That's when I went and lived with my parents Manitoulin
Island for about six months. We thought if I stayed
away from it for long enough, but that was also.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Kind of humiliating. I by then, I.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
Was like, moved out to BC to go become a
rock star, and now I'm back at home living with
my parents with a deep addiction. Saved up Ui, I
thought we had to talk. Hey, I think I can
go back. Took the bus back from Sudbury to Hamilton.
(07:14):
The girl I was with at the time came to
pick me up and she was all, this is the
Darrel I always wanted. Right from the bus to the car. Yes,
I had two thousand bucks in my bank account, Yes
this is the Darrell you want. But just to the
liquor store one more time. Let's just get a twelve
pack first light, walk out with it, two flour. Two
(07:35):
weeks later, I'm sitting in a hotel with a needle
in my arm, no money left, go to live with
my sister. I screwed that up. She said, as long
as you going to AA. So that was actually my
first AA meeting. Walked by that about twenty times because
there was a bunch of people that looked pretty successful,
(07:56):
laughing and happy. I was looking for the down and
out guy with the paper bag, you know what, And
they actually say, are you looking for ay? And I
was like, yeah, you're in the right place. I didn't
really understand it. Those twelve steps didn't make a whole
lot of sense to me. And then, uh yeah, that
(08:17):
kind of My sister left to go to visit. My
parents left me the house sit and right away, as
soon as they're gone, I was. I went into the
liquor cabinet, found their liquor cabinet. She even put up
a sign she knew me better than I knew me. Darryl,
stop think about what you're about to do. So thought
(08:38):
about it for about three seconds and emptied their liquor
cabinet and then here I am in my thirties, going shit,
my sister's gonna be home.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
I gotta get the hell out of here. I'm gonna
get in trouble.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, totally went and lived with my girlfriend at the
time with her parents, her parents' house, and then it
just kind of kept getting worse from there again, same
old story, to the point where needles are in my
arms and just doing a thing. And then somebody they
(09:12):
were just like I was wasted, and they're just like,
you ever think about rehab? And I was like I
don't know, sure, yeah, whatever. And then the next day
they already had it all set up. They're like, yeah,
we're gonna take you to detox and then the rehab. Yeah,
you solely agreed to it, man, And I'm like, okay.
I went to Arilia. That was a place in Aralia
that was a three month Is that where you went? Yeah,
(09:36):
seventh South Street, Yeah, yeah, so I went there.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
It was good.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
It was strict to tell though, like you can go napping,
know this, do this. If you're free time, you gotta
go to an AA meeting during during our free time,
we gotta go to AA.
Speaker 1 (09:54):
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