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I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.
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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials. The systems which are in place
to keep the world same are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News News.
Speaker 3 (02:00):
I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Today my guest is Campbell aka Autodedactic. Be sure to
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be a guest, email me Forbidden Knowledgenews at gmail dot com. Today,
I want to welcome Campbell. He is a content creator, speaker,
and researcher. He runs the Autodedactic YouTube channel covering topics
including frequency free energy, health, history, theosophy, and asking better questions. Campbell, welcome,
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How you doing good?
Speaker 4 (02:50):
Good? Hey going? Thanks for having me on.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Thanks so much for coming on. It's great to have you.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
You've done some great work presenting compelling evidence of an
alternative history that opens up many fascinating possibilities. Intentionally destroyed
advanced civilizations, parasitic dark occultists that manipulate reality. And this
work is bringing possible answers to questions that seem to
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be unanswerable so far. So I really enjoy sharing these
possibilities with the audience. There's a lot to get to
with this work before we do.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
This is your first time on the show.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
Tell us just a little bit about yourself and let
the audience know how they can find out more.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Sure.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Yeah, I've run a couple of YouTube channels, so autodidactic
I likes behind me, which means to be self educated.
So that's kind of the thing behind the channel is
just to put out, you know, to get people to
ask better questions, really is what it is. I don't
really want to tell anyone anything. I think we all
just make better questions. So I've been going down the
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alternative history route for like decades, since the nineties, you know.
I sort of started with Graham Hancock and all that
kind of stuff and got through about twenty fourteen or
so I've found tartaria and mud floods and star forts,
and yeah, that kind of altered my research, and I've
been going down that path ever since, really and everything
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that's tied to it, obviously, you know, the whole ruling system.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
What's going on? How do we get out of here?
Speaker 1 (04:32):
This is a topic that I'm sure much of my
audience is familiar with, but for those that aren't, And
if you're new to the subject of tartaria, where would
you start in trying to give people a basic synopsis
of what this topic is. How far back would we
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go in our history?
Speaker 5 (04:56):
Well, that's an interesting one. You know, research resets cyclical resets.
So it looks like that the earth, you know, gets
reset basically every so often, and it looks like there
was a reset, at least a repopulation in the mid
eighteen hundreds, of reset probably in the late seventeen hundreds.
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And we see the evidence all around us of these
amazing buildings, architecture of the cathedrals and all these old
World big stone buildings that are supposed to have been built,
you know, in the Dark Ages, you know, back around
a thousand years ago or more by horse and cart
hammer and chisel, you know, no heavy machinery obviously, no
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electrics or steam or anything like that. When you look
into these buildings, it's always the same story. They just
don't know who really built it, don't you know that
there's just no information on them. You can't find blueprints
of the buildings, the architectural plans or anything.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
And then when you get to.
Speaker 5 (05:57):
Places like Australia, because we're obviously the story is only
two hundred years old, right, Captain Cook turned up in
seventeen eighty eight, so we've got a much shorter timeline
than most people. And so all of ours were built
by convicts and just you know, designed by people who
weren't architects, and then they went onto design. You know,
they won a competition. They always been an architectural competition.
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Then they go into design, you know, like twenty buildings
in ten years, and they're the best buildings you know,
in the country. So it's you find these very very
funny stories. When you start actually looking into history and
trying to make it make sense, it just does not
make sense at all. It's just full of full of holes.
That's why I call it his story, because that's all
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it's just a story. It's not our story.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Though maybe we could get an idea of what a
pre researt civilization may have looked like. You said that
there was multiple possible resets seventeen hundreds, eighteen hundreds. What
would our pre reset civilization look like as far as technology,
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how advanced we were, things of that nature.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Yeah, well, I think it was definitely more creative. There's
a lot of you know, art paintings from the seventeen
hundreds which show the you know, their clothes and their
carriages and all these things, and they're all so ornate
and so creative, and then you look at the building.
So I think they were living in a society where
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they understood about eat the ether and energy and that
basically there is free energy. All you need to do
is know how to tap into it. So they weren't
they weren't industrialized, they weren't not running on an economy
that was around money. They seem to have been building
a society that was based around making the optimen you know,
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space for humans, right, for men and women. So these
big cathedrals we see everywhere, basically their healing machines, they're
big energy healing machines, and so they basically they pull
in ether and then they harmonize it to certain frequencies
through the bells, the choirs, all this kind of stuff.
And there were places for people to go and heal,
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and I guess you know that energy that heals you.
You know, I guess people felt close to God.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Right.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Maybe that's why they switched them to religions, right, because
it would have been full of all this energy in there.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And we see these symbols and.
Speaker 5 (08:33):
These shapes, you know, the domes, all these stuff, just
all across the world. And like I said, I'm in Australia,
and you know, our buildings are exactly the same as
ones we find in the US, in Europe, in South America,
and that doesn't make sense. You know, every time you
read it, it's just, you know, a revival. You know,
they were doing it in a revival style and all this.
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You know, so we've got all these Gothic architecture and
Greco Romano and all this kind of stuff. But when
I look at it, I just see different machines. I
think they're different components, different machines that do different jobs.
And you know, I doubt that we were actually ever
supposed to live or inhabit these places. I think, you know,
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you would go there to get healed or whatever. I
think some were just you know, not even meant for habitation, right,
they were just energy generators or different types of machinery.
And now we've just turned them all into housing and
shops and you know, warehouses, and basically that they've all
been turned off. So yeah, it looks like, you know,
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there was some kind of invading force, some kind, which
I think is becoming clear to everyone, right that there's
some force that's in control at the moment that's not human.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Well, before we get to that, you would say that
this was a somewhat harmonious global civilization, like you said,
add advance knowledge of energy and energy healing. Would you
say that this is also what some believe to be
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the millennial reign of Christ.
Speaker 5 (10:16):
I mean, yeah, I would use different wording, but I
think it's the same idea at least as far as
I mean. I guess when you're talking about the Millennial Rain,
they talk a lot more about saints and it's got
more of a religious Christian sort of connotation to it.
Where but I mean the concept of you know, a
free society where it was everyone was living you know,
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harmoniously in harmony you know, again one of those frequency
words that are all throughout our language by the way,
you know, like harmony, right, we.
Speaker 4 (10:46):
Like to live in harmony.
Speaker 5 (10:47):
Yeah, so I think that I think, you know, the
free energy, good food, you know, and that they weren't
dealing with stuff like their food being poison their water
being poisoned, their air being poisoned, right, completely opposite to
what we've got. It was all built to enhance the experience,
right for everyone. And so yeah, I think we were
looking at a harmonious worldwide, not necessarily one, you know,
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I think we had different cultures, but they were interacting,
sharing information, technology and living harmoniously for sure. And I'm
sure that they are much higher vibing, I guess you
could say, to what we are, so in that sense,
they would have you know, been more saintly, you know,
that kind of thing. But so yeah, I think it's
you know, I'm not a Christian myself, but I understand
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the concept. And obviously after that then we get Satan's
little season and you know, which very narrow look around.
So that kind of makes sense, right.
Speaker 1 (11:41):
Right, Well, let's talk about the parasitic invaders. You alluded
that there's a lot of anti human ideologies that have
come out of this research, and I'd have to agree
one thousand percent. The question is where does that come from?
Is it from a human ruling class of bloodlines that
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are psychotic because they have been multi generationally inbred to
be psychopaths, or is there some other outside force that
is influencing these global rulers in some way?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
What are your thoughts on that.
Speaker 5 (12:23):
I'm definitely on the it's an outside force side of
the fence. I guess the way I see it as
far as resets and things is to me, it's like
a sine wave, which I guess it's like the procession
of the equinox. How they have the Golden age, the
Bronze age, you know, and then it sort of goes
back up. So I think we go from low energy
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to high energy to lower it, you know, like a
sine wave, We go up and down, and that's the resets.
So we just happen to be in one of the
low r realms right where some dark force has taken over.
So where it came from, obviously I can't. I don't know,
but I would say it's an it's some kind of
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intelligence consciousness that's come in probably into dimensional or it's
got in somehow, right, and then it's like you said,
it's a parasite. So it has then got its first host,
you know, it's first human host, and influence that person,
and then over the years and hundreds of years, it's
just basically possessed, possessed, right, So it's the same again
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idea as demons and devils and all this kind of stuff, possessions.
And of course this is the society that they've created
around us, right, the consumer society where they want us
to be constantly going out and buying possessions. You know,
it's kind of all in the in the wording, right,
it's all spelling. So yeah, I think they've infected a bloodline.
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And that's why we hear so much about bloodline families.
They want to keep that pure, or at least the
ruling consciousness does, because it wants to have total control, right,
Like it's instilling it. It's grip on this these families,
and they're basically the henchmen, the front men. They're the
people we see, the people who are really in control
all the whoever they are beings, you know, we were
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never going to see them. They're all hidden away somewhere,
so all we see is the front men, you know,
and the stars and all this kind of stuff. People
who want our worship, you know, much like many gods
want their you know, your worship. So it's it's it's
very you know, it definitely runs you know, parallel lines
with you know, concepts like the Devil, you know, the
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Great Deceiver, and you know a lot of stuff from
the Bible described. You know, they will be arrogant things
like this, and this is what we see with these
people who wish to rule us or you know, these entities.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Many people look at this information and wonder how it's
possible to reset an entire planet or an entire civilization.
How would they go about doing this? And you've presented
evidence of a global mud flood possibility. There's very compelling
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evidence within a lot of places around the planet if
you look at the buildings that have been submerged, as
well as other geological factors. But talk a little bit
about how an entire civilization can be reset.
Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, we've all had an MK ultra I'm guessing basically
mind controlled through fear and you know, things like this.
So basically that's what war is, right, we both we
all know about the World War One and World War Two,
and that's basically a massive mk ultra event, right. It
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just fractures people's psychees and consciousness through trauma. And so
I think this is what happened, especially when you've got
a civilization that's peaceful, right, they don't really I don't
believe they had armies and all this. I weren't fighting
with each other like we do. And so basically, yeah,
you're go in and attack them and create catastrophes to
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create mk ultra, so your fracture. So basically the people
that are left are much more controllable. And you know,
it really only takes one generation to change the script, right,
because as long as you separate the children from the
parents when they're very young, then you can reprogram them
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whichever way you want. And what we see is around
the eighteen fifties we have this phenomena of orphans. There's
orphans everywhere. All this talk of orphans, it's all the books,
like you know, Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, you know, Oliver Twist,
Little Orphan Annie there's all these books from the eighteen
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hundred it's all about orphans. And then with a bit
of digging, you'll find the Orphan train where it's documented
they were sending kids all over the place, you know,
internationally throughout countries, just all these kids, right, and somehow,
you know, no one knows who the parents were, or
the parents you know, didn't seem to care these trainers.
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The kids were being shipped off to people. So it
looks a lot like a repopulation. And then we have
these things called World's Fares, which basically were these massive constructions,
and we're told that they were built. You know, we're
talking like constructions over you know, like tens and tens
of acres, with some buildings being over an acre under
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the roof, right, And the story is they were all
just built temporarily to hold a fair, and then they
knocked them all up. Right, So you have these massive
when you see the cities that they're not they tell
us they build of like you know, stucco and dry wall,
all this kind of stuff. But then there's fountains everywhere,
there's canals everywhere, there's clearly has to be plumbing. They
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never talk about this stuff. So they look like the
old world cities and what they're doing is raising them,
raising the memory of them. But in these world's fares,
we have again this curious thing props up of infant
incubators where they were that there's even signs, photos of
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signs that say they were growing an infant are twelve
months old, infant in like six weeks, I think it was.
So they were talking about advance growing. You could take
one home, like literally you could walk into these and
take a baby home. Right, So it's very very weird, right,
there's always creating babies. And and then you know, jump
forward to today and we've seen this again, right that
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they've they've literally got these crib things that they can
grow a baby into full term. That they're even talking
about robots believe it or not, that have like a
sea through stomach and you can watch your baby gest
state inside a robots. So and of course he tied
these to all the other stuff, you know, like mister
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Gates and his parents and what they're involved with. I'll
be careful with my language, but you know the whole
that Bill Gates parents started planned parenthood, which and you
know with h he likes well, he's on tape saying
that he would like less people on the earth. Let's
just say it that way, right, there's his big mind.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Well, we're talking about some of the evidence. You mentioned
the world's fairs, orphan streams. There's also these massive fires
that were being sent across the entire planet that conveniently
would destroy a lot of this evidence for advanced civilizations.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
Yeah, just just type great fire into Google and you'll
see this massive list. Basically from the eighteen sixties to
you know, nineteen hundred, early nineteen hundreds, most major cities
across Europe, Australia, and the US were burnt, right, just
burned to the ground. And it was always some silly
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story like you know, some cow kicked over a candle,
you know, in the whole city burn. And then you
look at these cities and they're not wooden. You know,
they kind of give us this impression, you know when
they teach us history that it was all wood and
all this kind of but you look at it. We're
talking brick building, stone buildings, stuff that doesn't burn at
least not easily, so they're burning, you know, I mean,
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if you burn a brick house, the house is going
to stay there with everything inside is probably going to burn, right,
So it was another way. I think they were getting
rid of technologies right that they had back then that
they didn't want us to know. And of course they
would have kept all the tech. And this is what
they're doing. Like we have you know, Elon Musk with
Tesla electric cars, but we had electric cars back in
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nineteen hundred and they were running off lead acid back
and going further than a Tesla goes today. They were
doing hundreds of miles. So what they do is they
keep all this technology, they put it in the inventory, right,
and then when they want to bring it out, when
they've worked out how they can control it and sell
it to us. Then you need an inventor who goes
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to the inventor re grabs some tech and brings it
out and goes here you go, I invented this. So sorry,
a bit of a sidetrack there. But the great fires
we had them all throughout Australia as well, and we
had the Worldfares and in Sydney in nineteen hundred the
big World's Fair building burnt down. You know, it was
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glass and Brieck, but it burnt down somehow, and in
that building was all the records of Australia up to
that date. So thought they all got back. So it's modern.
It's book burning, right, we hear book burning going way back.
It's just the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Well, this is something else that's difficult for people. Possibility
that an entire history was rewritten, that science was reimagined,
that everything that we understand as far as academia has presented,
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has been manufactured in some way. And that's difficult for
people to wrap their heads around. But from what I understand,
there were people sanctioned to do this very thing.
Speaker 5 (22:28):
Yeah, like the Rockefellers. Yeah, basically they you know, with
medicine as well. I can I'll be carey with what
I say, but basically they took over the medical industry.
They outlawed you know, like herbalists and natural sort of healers,
and pushed their plans, you know, basically petroleum based medicine, right,
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which was basically the waste of because the Rockfeller's own
standard oil.
Speaker 4 (22:58):
Right.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
So they had all this They're like, how can we
use it? I know, let's give it to people and
tell them it'll cure them. And through that they then
took over the universities, so they controlled who could be
a doctor, like literally, So then that's how they completely
wiped out the other side. And then through that they
took over the education system and they they basically run it.
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They run the curriculums. They tell you, they say, what's
going to be taught. And as we know, you know, school,
we just we don't get taught what we need to
get taught, we get taught. You know, the mass they
teachers is basically just enough that you can pay your tax, right,
you know, all the information is really just to get
you ready to sit in a cubicle and work for
forty years. And this is what they say. If you
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read their doctor they tell they tell you they say
straight out Rockefeller. I think it was John D. Said
I want a nation of workers, not a nation of thinkers.
And he's the guy who's running the education system. So
and this is, like I said, it's all documented, it's
all out there to read that. They they tell us
all this stuff, but they obviously don't promote it. You know,
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you've got to go and look for this stuff. But yeah,
and you know, just another interesting fact is that all
the textbooks are in the US at least and Europe
were printed by Gallaine. Maxwell's father owned it since eighteen
ninety nine, sorry, nineteen eighty nine, he's owned the company
that prints all the textbooks. So you got to ask yourself,
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you know, what are you teaching our kids? And who
are these people that we're trusting this information with. I mean,
you know it's not really you know, they wouldn't let
your kids hang out with these people, so why let
them educate them?
Speaker 4 (24:36):
Right? You know?
Speaker 1 (24:38):
I recently had Guy Anderson on I'm pretty sure you're familiar.
Speaker 4 (24:44):
Yeah, I'm talking to him tonight.
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Actually, wonderful, wonderful.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
He's of the belief that associated with the orphan train phenomena,
there may have been human cloning and the ability to
clone humans may have been.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
Around for a very very long time. Do you share
that belief?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, it's a definite possibility. I've
definitely looked into it. The whole Cabbage Patch phenomena. Obviously,
most people will probably know about Cabbage Patch kids from
the eighties, but there was this all these very strange
postcards that were found from the eighteen hundreds, and they
had all these kids in cabbage patches. They're very strange.
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And then there was a couple of movies made about it.
So it's basically we're not saying that we think babies
grew out of cabbages, but it's basically a way of
getting their truth across, right. And also I think, you know,
it's kind of tongue in cheap. They can talk to
each other, this is what they do, right, but the
public are not why I saw what's going on. So yeah,
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like I said, they're rebuilding the technology now, you know,
And I mean just look around at a lot of
the videos. So many people are questioning the whole cloning
thing at the moment, like all these celebrities and stars
who seem to sort of change the way they look suddenly,
you know, like or unlived and people. You know, it's
been very strange circumstances and it's like, well, are they
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really gone or do they just change the role. But
I think, yeah, you know, even though it might sound
like a crazy concept, but I think if you just
look around at the world today and what's going on,
it's not so crazy because the thing is that they've
got that they're far, far, far advancing technology than we are.
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They only released to us what they want us to have. So,
you know, as far as you know, even history being rewritten,
you know, you've even got to ask how old is AI.
I'm sure they've just introduced it to us, but that
doesn't mean they haven't had it. And when you read
a lot of the history, you know, especially especially the
Wikipedia history, which is you know, a bit dodgy, it
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sounds like it's written by AI. It's always the same story,
it repeats itself, and it's just doesn't flow. It's just
there's too many coincidences, too many of the same story
for it to be real, you know, in my opinion.
But so yeah, as far as the cloning, I think,
you know, like I said, they had baby what they
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called the World's Fair where they were growing babies fast.
I was saying, yeah, you know, so, yeah, it's a
good It's an interesting one, and a lot of you know, celebrities,
especially rappers for some reason, have come out and said
that they are clones.
Speaker 4 (27:32):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:33):
I wanted to ask you about the Civil War. It
seems like that would be a very important event to
have some of this reset activity take place during.
Speaker 5 (27:51):
Yes, yes, well America, you know, kind of like Australia
a bit older, you know, I discovered in the late
fourteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (27:59):
Apparently.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
My take on it is there were people there in
the Americas, in North America probably, I think there was
a resets, So I don't think they were fully at
the height that you know, they would have been at
the heart of the civilization, but that there was still
a civilization. They probably had a little bit of a
tech left at least we're using the buildings, and I
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think the Civil War was just a way to wipe
them out or at least weaken them right so they
could be controlled. Because my view, and you know it's
through research, is that the whole story that's given to
the black people is backwards.
Speaker 4 (28:44):
That's wrong.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
If you're looking at the slave trade and how many
slaves they thought that they could bring over any ship,
and how many ships would have had to be done,
you know, brought over, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
And so in my.
Speaker 5 (28:56):
View, the black population were there, that's what that's who
was in America. And so the Civil War was not
a war against North and South. It was a war
against you know, the British and the Moors. I guess
they were descendants of the Moors, the Blacks in America. So,
and this is what we see in all wars, right,
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you know, like World War Two. You know, obviously they
blew the crap out of Germany, right, and we've got
this big story around it. But when you look at
the cities they attacked, like these were really really intact
old world cities and they just flattened them. And you know,
so war is not also what we think it is, right,
obviously all wars of bankers wars, as Missus Rothschild told us,
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But they're also to wipe out information, right and to
change the story into their narrative. And you know from
that they give us this story that it's us where
the aggressive little ones where the war, Like, you know,
people who just can't be trusted. And but I've never
met anyone who wants to start a war or in
a war. I've never even met anyone who wants to
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go next door to their neighbor and control them, right,
But these people who run the wars do and then
the biggest gas line is, right, they do stuff and
then they say, look what you did, just so they
can bring in more rules to control us.
Speaker 3 (30:15):
Well, what a hell? Of a way to gaslight.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
Not only did they rewrite history and provide the historical
documentation and text books, but they also provided artwork and
cultural behaviors surrounding the history that they wrote about. It
was pretty thorough the way that they went about resetting everything,
(30:42):
if indeed they went that route. And this is again,
is where people look at things like that and think
it's impossible for them to have been able to do
things like that. But if you look at the way
they've presented our history compared to some of the new
information that researchers like yourself are presenting now, it's the
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only way a lot of this stuff makes sense if
there's been alterations made.
Speaker 5 (31:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, And you know, we know that there
was a lot of alterations, you know, under the guise
of translating all these books that they get translated and
translated and then obviously they get edited as well. But yeah, yeah,
I think I think they had tech to help them
(31:32):
do it. You know, I think when you when you
sort of picture all these scribes sitting down and read
writing a whole history, then yeah, it's a bit of
a stretch. Like I said, if you go and just
do some research on you know, get some of the
biggest buildings you can find in your city or your state,
and just just see who built them, and read the
story that they give you about these architects, and you
(31:53):
read a couple of them, and you'll start going, hang on,
this is the same story over.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
It really is.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
And there's never any background, there's never any proof. They
can't tell you whether materials came from or how many
work we're on it. They can't produce the plans for
any of this stuff. But I think, yeah, with AI,
they've just rewritten it with AI. And then we have
another concept of which I guess ties into the millennium,
the thousand Missing years. You know, what we're told is
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the Dark Ages, and they say there was a thousand
years and nothing happened. It was a dark ase, nothing happened.
But then we have all these you know, like gravestones
and pictures and things that have been dated all across
the world, and they have jays or i's in front
of the numbers, so you'll get like I nine O
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eight And what's happened is that, you know, those who
wish to control us have come along and turned that
into one. So it goes from nine o eight to
nineteen o eight, so there's been a thousand years added.
But as far as we can tell, which gives them
that that that stretch, right, that that gap that they
can kind of fill in and they can meld it
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into their story of you know, how we've struggled, you know,
through evolution and we've come up from the mud and
we finally hit the peak of you know, civilization. And
but this is the thing. I mean, just look around.
I mean, do we really think we're at the peak
of civilization? I mean, I think that they tell us
(33:28):
one story, but we're clearly going the opposite way, right,
I mean, now, like, look, look what's happening now with
the internet. I mean, for one, people don't read books anymore.
So everything on the internet is as we've seen through censorship,
it's very easy to just wipe it and it never existed.
(33:48):
So you know, we're at a point now where they
could quite easily wipe all the information, you know, do
all these things that they're wanting to do with natural
events and you know, wars and all this, and you know,
give it a couple of generations and they could reset
the world back to Stone Age days, right, Like literally,
you know, it's that that that that's what they're building towards.
(34:09):
And then we have all these digital ideas coming in
that they're trying to push, which is going to get
us more online, then they can track us more and
but but ultimately it gives them more control over the
society and which way they can lead it.
Speaker 4 (34:23):
Yeah, you know, I've.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Already starting to see a lot of that slowly unfold,
changing things online, changing history books, and it can only
get worse from here. I want to talk a little
bit more about that soon, but I do want to
go back to some of the historical evidence for resets
(34:47):
and an advanced civilization. You talk about these star fords,
how are they connected to what we're discussing here.
Speaker 4 (35:00):
Yes, well star forts.
Speaker 5 (35:01):
If you haven't seen Star Forwards, just google Star Forwards,
go images and you'll blow your mind. That's really my
first video on my channels about a star fort because
like they just mind blowing, right. You see these massive constructions,
and they're everywhere that there's many in the US, in
the Northern States, they're all through the Caribbean, they're everywhere.
(35:26):
They're through South America, Africa, Australia's got remnants of them,
and we get this story that basically they were built
between early fifteen hundreds late seventeen hundreds by French and
Italian build it. Basically they say they were like these
groups and they just wandered the countryside and build a
star fort. But when you look at the size of
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these things, you know, the story again is just pretty ridiculous.
So I think the star forts are probably from a
reset before what we call tartarian buildings, which is essentially
the red big buildings and the cathedrals. But I think
the star forts were from the previous reset, And as
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far as we can tell that they're based on energy.
Their cimatic shapes a simic shape is just like a
geometric shape you get when you play a frequency through
certain mediums, so they mirror that. And they've got obviously
lots of quartz and crystals and all this kind of
stuff on them, and they're very connected to water. And
(36:31):
what we see when you look at the old maps
is I call them star cities. Now like all the
cities were walled, they had a complete wall around them,
and the same thing as the stars. They're called star
forts because they've got all these points on them, and
they've got stars, and you find these walled cities around them,
and they've always got a star connected to them. So
(36:51):
I think that they were part of the infrastructure as far.
I think they had a lot to do with cleaning water,
structuring water, probably harmonizing energy and frequency. And yeah, they
were just another part of you know, that was utilized
at least by the old world. But yeah, the story
(37:12):
is again like the Italians and French were building them.
But then that story doesn't that only works for Europe
ride and really not not all of only.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
The small part.
Speaker 5 (37:22):
So then we find them in Africa, we find them
in the US, you know, in Australia, and these are
clearly the exact same constructions. They're always made the same.
And in the US, no, they're all forts that were
built for the Civil War, you know, and you've just
got to go hang on. And so my first video
was on Fort Jefferson, which is out in the Caribbean,
(37:46):
a couple hundred k's off the coast of Florida, Tattooga's
National Park, i think it's called. And that's the biggest
red brick building in North America, sixteen million bricks and
it's literally it's built an autohole out in the middle
of the water for the Civil War. So there's a
couple of problems with that, Like for the Civil war,
(38:07):
that's like an internal war, right, there's no one coming
over sea. And the second part is affording the sea
is completely completely useless because boats can just sail around
outside the range of bu cannons, right, And sixteen million bricks,
how did they get them out to the middle of
the ocean. The story is that there was ballast from
(38:29):
ships that were coming over and just dumping their ballast
of bricks there, and they just built it in the
middle of the ocean. And then on top of it,
it's got a moat and it's literally the in the ocean.
But it's got a motor around it. So it's to
me that's it's not a full start like a full starboard.
It's being disintegrated a bit, but it's the cause there.
(38:52):
And yeah, so it's just really silly stories, you know
that we get. But there's some good stuff. It's in
the US. I've been to a couple, went to one
in Florida. I can't remember the name at the moment, but.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
There's a lot. I mean America's like Australia. It's full.
Speaker 5 (39:12):
It's full of these old world buildings that really have
no explanation. You know, a lot of them were built
by I mean they're not even built that they love
to say they were found founded, right, it was founded
by this person. I mean foundered is just found. They
just found it. And you know our friends, those you
know free masons, they just turned up and took the
(39:37):
free masonry right, all the buildings. They're like, oh, it's
all free, free masonry, all right. So yeah, this is
some of the language that we hear, you know. And
I mean even renovate, you know, renovate. We all think, oh,
renovated house. It's actually made. The word is actually renovate,
which is basically to write a new contract, to make
(39:59):
a new deal. So they went in and they renovated
all the buildings, which basically they just went in said
there's no one here. They wrote a little thing, I
own it now, and that they renovated it. So it's
all this tricky stuff. But I see it as an
invasion and they've just slowly crept across. They've destroyed everything
on their way, you know, destroying the information and Kay
(40:21):
altering all the people, destroying the evidence of the Old World,
and then claiming that they built it all right. That's
why every single government building is in an Old World
Tatarian building like the White House in America looks the
same as you know buildings all over the world that
there's heaps of them, and there's a lot in the US.
(40:44):
Like there's a big one in Texas with a massive dime.
There's one in I was going through West Virginia just
in their little town there's this massive, like one of
the biggest domes I've ever seen on this massive just
up in the hills built there.
Speaker 4 (41:00):
You know, it's some silly story.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
But you've got to ask yourself, why why would they
do this? Why would they build with domes? I mean,
what's what's this kind of architecture got to do with
the US.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
What we're seeing with the Native American mounds could be
something from an earlier civilization. I talked with doctor Gregory
Little before, who believes that the Native Americans may have
repurposed these older constructions that may have belonged to a
much older, maybe even pre Atlantean civilization.
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Yeah, yeah, I would agree.
Speaker 5 (41:39):
I think that we have lay lines, energy lines all
across the world, and you know, it's just like an
energy system, like the human meridian system. And these lay
lines intersect, they essentially make a grid. Right, So where
they intersect is creates like an energy vortex, right, and
(41:59):
they are the places where they build things like star fords,
like cathedrals and temples, And no doubt, you know after
a reset, you know, if the buildings are wiped out
and you have a you know, Stone age or primitive
culture because they've been reseat, then they still find the
same power power spots and they build theirs on top.
(42:21):
That's why you find all over the place, and I've
been to a lot of them. You'll find churches or cathedrals,
and you read into them that they're always always built
on the foundations of another temple or cathedral because it's
it's the spot, it's the energy vortex that they're looking for.
So yeah, i'd agree with that, not necessarily agree with
(42:45):
the whole Indian story because there's some information, interesting information there.
But I think essentially we've all just been thrown around
to different countries and we don't really know where any
of us are from, right, And they're doing it again
right now. Look what they're doing with population right now.
Look at Europe. They're moving all these populations in and
these there's so many countries in Europe now where you know,
(43:09):
the native population are now the minority. So they're doing
this this again. Right, we're living through another reset, right. Interesting.
We got onto this about twenty twenty, the whole reset concept,
and started looking into it. And then Klaus, you know,
our friend Klaus came out and what did he say?
We're in a reset. This is the great reset, like
(43:30):
he literally told us. Let all this weirdness started happening, right.
Speaker 1 (43:34):
I wanted to ask you your thoughts about what has
been unfolding. There has been a series of, it seems,
stepping stone events that have led to where we're at
as a society right now. I'd say you can look
back as far as World War two, maybe events before that.
(43:55):
You have jfk assassination, Vietnam nine to eleven, COVID, these
high impact events, and every event that is a hint
of theatrics or something manufactured between all stepping stones to
(44:16):
where we're at as a society right now. You mentioned Ai.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I agree.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
I think that's been around a lot longer. Than the
powers that be would let on, and they have probably
been utilizing it for operations for a very long time.
And that's where I think there's a fine line between planning,
occult symbolism and natural synchronisticism, which we can talk a
(44:43):
little bit about as well. But i'd love to get
your thoughts on everything that has been unfolding. You said
that they're preparing for another reset.
Speaker 4 (44:53):
Is that right? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (44:55):
Yeah, yeah. So the way I say it is wherein
you the negative the negative side of the cycle, right,
and we're coming up to whatever you want to call it,
the Golden age, better times, high frequency. You know, there's
all these different words for it, right, and I believe that,
you know, I call them the elites, I call them
(45:15):
the alites. They want to stay in control, obviously, and
so this is what the way I look at at is,
it's engineered prophecy, is what we're seeing at the moment.
Speaker 3 (45:28):
What did you call them elites?
Speaker 4 (45:31):
Elites? Yeah? Yeah, the people of l right.
Speaker 5 (45:35):
And I might have different thoughts on you to what
that means, but they're the people, right, they you know,
they call themselves the elites, but elites, so at their manufacturing prophecy,
so that's why you know, we're seeing all these events, right,
and like weather events right everywhere, But we know it's
geo engineering. It's not natural, right, they're creating this stuff
(45:58):
and they're putting it for as this story of end
time prophecies. Right, we're at the end times. Look at
all this stuff, look at all the evidence, but we
know that they're creating this. This is not natural, right,
So I believe they're bringing this in because they're trying.
They know that we're going to a higher frequency, right.
And basically the way I look at it is it's
(46:20):
all to do with charge.
Speaker 4 (46:21):
Right.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
We're coming out of a negative charge and going into
a positive charge. Now, when you're in a negative charge,
the people in charge are the negative people, right, because
that's their charge, right, And they're like literally the people
in charge making the decisions in government. And so as
we go in all positive charge, that they're losing their charge,
(46:42):
they're losing their power, so they're no longer going to
be in charge because it's going to be positive. So
they know this, but they're trying to keep a group
of people that they can keep us their slaves basically, right.
So I think all of this is to create fear,
to keep people down lowing frequency, and they believe I
don't think that they can do it, but they believe
(47:03):
that they can. You know, when this happens, they can
keep their own little slave population basically because that's that's.
Speaker 4 (47:10):
What they want.
Speaker 5 (47:13):
But the way I see it, we're going some better.
Things are changing for the better. You just need to
look around. But they own the media, they own the music,
they own the Hollywood, all this stuff. So all the
propaganda we're getting, all the stuff everywhere, even on social media,
is all. You don't have to spend long on it.
It's all end time prophecy, it's all.
Speaker 4 (47:33):
It's bad. Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (47:34):
Now aliens are invading, right, there's a mother ship coming
to blow us up. And you know, all this stuff
and all this this, you know, the protests everywhere, right,
and the civil unrest and the weather events, all this stuff.
It's it's sad to put everyone in confusion and fear, right,
and mainly to get their attention, because when they've got
(47:55):
your attention, your attention is not on what it should
be right, which is living your life and being your
best person and giving value to the world.
Speaker 4 (48:03):
Right.
Speaker 5 (48:05):
And so it really is you know, a fight for
your attention. And one thing you know to do with
AI and everything is, you know, a lot of people
have woken up, you know, recently over the last five years,
and there's a lot of information coming out you know
that is conspiracy theory based, shall we say, it's everywhere, right,
(48:27):
But that's that's also the trap, right, that's the trap
because you've got to understand that we know YouTube, we
know who owns it, the same as TikTok Facebook, It's
all the same crew, right, and so when things get
out and go viral, that's by design, right, that's by design.
Like you've probably noticed, you know a lot of people
(48:48):
who talk about you know, these kind of topics, we
don't get pushed out, right, we don't. But then you'll
find some weird thing and is promoted, promoted, promoted, you know,
and you know, no matter what your opinion is, you know,
you have to kind of admit the whole Charlie Kirk thing, right,
that just went.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
Well, it's just like every movement that has an inkling
of benefit for humanity will be infiltrated and taken over
by the parasites, and then all sides are controlled and
they have the narrative on lockdown for no matter what
the issue is that's being presented, right.
Speaker 4 (49:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5 (49:33):
So a lot of stuff happens that you know, randomly
and they just take it over or they create it,
and they take over the narrative and then you know,
you see it.
Speaker 4 (49:41):
You know. The whole Charlie Kirk thing is a perfect example.
Is well.
Speaker 5 (49:45):
Number one, Like it was literally within minutes of it
happening that all these theories started coming out. So number one,
they're losing power, that they're finding it very hard to
keep control of the narrative. But also what happened people
just started microanalyzing every detail, right, every detail and go
(50:05):
and and you know that's good. We need to know
the truth, But what's the end result in that? Like,
like what are we where are we getting? Like all
we really need to know is everything's scripted, everything's fake.
You know, even if it's real, they're going to change
the script. They're going to try and you know, push
us one way or the other. And I think that's
(50:26):
the lesson And I think we need to really see
that and understand that. Living our lives in the two
D world as I call it, you know, this screen
that we're in right now, it's not the best thing
for us. You know, people talk about time and speeding up,
you know, we're in the quickening. Well, I would say
that people aren't making memories anymore, and that's why time
(50:47):
is speeding up, because we're not. We don't have these bits,
you know, these memories in our brains right to give
us time, to give us that that view of time span, right,
Like even conversations are done online, right, people aren't having
this physical experience, And I think that's the quickening, right,
(51:09):
because nothing's We're fast getting into a people where there's
not much is real anymore. And then you put on
top of it AI like we really you know, we
don't know. Like over the last five years, how many
videos have come out about politicians and it's like their
faces changed or they're wearing a mask, or oh my god,
this is happening, you know, is it really them? We
(51:30):
don't really know.
Speaker 1 (51:32):
You're absolutely right, there's so much theatrics at play it
is difficult to tell what's real and what isn't. That
seems to be by design, even when you look at
things like the Charlie Kirk assassination. We have theories now
that that is faked, that is all staged. What we
(51:57):
saw coming through on social media, on the TV may
have even been artificial intelligence as well. The theories go
from extreme on all sides, and not one person out
here can tell you exactly what the truth is. Again,
it seems to be by design. It seems to be
(52:19):
where we're at. Does that mean that they are in
complete control and are just gaslighting us at this point
or are they really struggling to hold on to control
and power and that's why they have to do things
like this.
Speaker 5 (52:37):
Yeah, I definitely think they're struggling and they're trying to
hold on because a lot of their stuff they put
out is clearly not grabbing, you know, the way they
want it to, and so they're in damage control. But
these whatever they are, these beings, they're not creative, They
don't have creativity. They're not you know, creators or creation, right,
(52:59):
so they can run scripts and that's why it never
changes that all they do is double down and push
their script harder, right, because they're clearly following a script.
And again with Charlie Kirk, you know, I don't know
if you've heard, there was that movie Snake Eyes nineteen
ninety eight, which literally, you know, it's a script. It's
a script, and this is you know, how we gone
(53:20):
into resets. You can see that even the stories of
our history are scripts. They're circular, right, They're definitely not linear,
And so I think that, yeah, what they're doing is
losing control. So they're trying to just get people's attention
and then feed them so much information that people get
confused and can't make a decision on it or obviously
(53:45):
another one they do is the echo chamber, you know,
and we don't see the echo chamber because we're all
in it. But every time you go online, you're in
an echo chamber. They're going to feed you stuff that
they know you'll buy pretty much is what it is, right,
stuff that aligns with your the way you say the
world and think, so with any event they can fiji
(54:06):
stuff that will at least get you going hmm okay.
That's you know, get you thinking what they want you
to think, and that that's really their biggest and only
power because they're deceivers.
Speaker 1 (54:19):
Well, this is where I wonder if there is something
larger at place, some larger metaphysical force, because I question
if they even have the ability to orchestrate the symbolism
and the connections like you mentioned snake eyes and the
strange synchronistic connections that have come out of there. This
(54:40):
happens with large events like nine to eleven. But I
wonder if there's just some sort of cosmic force that
causes ripples throughout our reality that may reflect some of
these large events, or if it is intentionally placed there
by these occultists as a sort of calling card. Which
(55:02):
it's difficult for me to see that.
Speaker 3 (55:04):
But what are your thoughts?
Speaker 5 (55:08):
So you mean, like we all keep hearing the number
thirty three are talking to each other. Yeah, I think
definitely they are. Yeah, And I mean this is one
I think that they do talk differently to us, They
see things differently to us. They have different language to
us that they use.
Speaker 3 (55:26):
You know, it often calls it twilight language.
Speaker 5 (55:30):
Yeah, yeah, right, okay, yeah, so they're on a different
level if you want. I definitely think that we're dealing
with some large consciousness of some kind that is running
through many, many people. And you can call that possession
or whatever you want, but basically is running through people
and using them. And because the script is so big
(55:52):
and in depth, and it does cycle, but still like,
there's so much involved with it. This is why I
don't believe that it's us random psychos that got together
and decided to interbreed, because it's just too big. It's
just too big. And the reason I think that they
haven't been in control that long. You know, a lot
(56:14):
of people will say it's been thousands of years or
tens of thousands or whatever. They're not very far along
in their plans, are they?
Speaker 1 (56:22):
Like, really, it's difficult to tell where they are and
what is the end goal with everything. It seems that
they're a lot further as far as their technological advancements
than they would ever present to us. But then again,
it's hard to tell because what I see from AI
(56:44):
on a daily basis concerns me with how advanced and
the changes and the rapid growth that we're seeing from it.
But again, I couldn't tell you where they're at.
Speaker 3 (56:55):
What do you think?
Speaker 1 (56:57):
Where do you think we're ultimately headed? What is the
game for them?
Speaker 4 (57:02):
Wow? The end game?
Speaker 5 (57:04):
I think that we're talking about an entity that's not physical,
and so that's why he whatever has to work through
physical beings, and I think it wants to be physical.
You know, we hear this story through you know, many
different religions and other sort of myths and legends that
it wants to incarnate, right, and so we look at
(57:26):
all this stuff. You know, you can talk about CERN
and what they're doing there. I don't know if you've
seen the opening of the tunnel there yeap, very strange, right,
very close to CERN. And then you link with that
things like quantum computing, right that we've got these quantum computers,
(57:46):
and one of the founders of the quantum computers or
you know, the builders basically said we're going into parallel
universes and we're bringing back resources. And it's not a
complete quote, but it was something like we're bowing at
the altar of a foreign god Jeordi rose, Yes, So
(58:08):
what does that mean? Are they trying to bring this
entity in?
Speaker 4 (58:13):
Right?
Speaker 5 (58:13):
Then next to that you put the robots, right and
all the synthetics and that what are robots for?
Speaker 4 (58:18):
Really?
Speaker 5 (58:19):
What are they for? And why would you make a
humanoid robot?
Speaker 4 (58:23):
Right?
Speaker 5 (58:24):
I mean we've had robots for decades right in factories,
but they don't look like C three pr right, They're
just that they're designed to do a function, So why
would you make humanoid robots? Like, I mean, really, what what? What?
Speaker 4 (58:36):
Why?
Speaker 5 (58:38):
They don't you know, they're not that functional, right, But
it would make sense if you, well, one, wanted to
split people up and make them, you know, start marrying robots.
But two, it's a lot of it's a lot of
empty vessels.
Speaker 4 (58:50):
Right.
Speaker 1 (58:51):
What are your thoughts on where we're at with AI
and the strange interactions people have been having suicide. It's
very dark relationships with AI, to say the least.
Speaker 5 (59:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's as dark as the
people who created it, right and who run it. I'm
sure that we you know, I don't know how powerful
it is. What we get I'm pretty sure is just
an algorithm what they can access. Who knows, right, But basically, yeah,
I've seen all these videos, you know, where people are
(59:27):
talking and asking all these existential questions and stuff, and
it's quite clear that when you watch a couple of those,
that AI is just pandering to them, right, Like they'll
ask a question and AI is like, oh, yes, you're
so smart, You're correct, and then it basically expands on
the topics that they've brought up. So it's you know,
(59:49):
that's that's clearly false, right, because there's no way that
everyone who asks a question is right. Right. But then
you get into the darker stuff. Yeah, like you know,
teenagers who are using AI as a confidant and it's
telling them to go and underlive themselves or to go
and harm other people, all these weirdness, right, and it's happening,
you know, it's happening. So this is the thing, you know,
(01:00:13):
it's all a double edged sort. I think it's a
very bad idea to use AI as any form of
create creative thing or to get you know, as a confidant,
to get actual advice from it. It's it's it's not
a it's not a man or woman.
Speaker 4 (01:00:29):
It's not a human.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
I don't know if you've also heard there is also
this influx of young people involved with dark occult practices
witchcraft they see on TikTok, and it gets very dangerous
for the younger people involved because they really don't know
(01:00:53):
what they're getting involved with. And if they're starting to
practice ritual magic, dark occult magic and they have no
idea what they're doing, they're just emulating something they saw
another TikTok creator do.
Speaker 3 (01:01:08):
Apparently, this is very dangerous, and there's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
This epidemic of people that are causing harm to themselves
by using black magic.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
Yeah, yes, away from black magic people, that's not a
good idea. I mean this is again, this is the allies.
All black magic are cultists, right, so this is their field.
This is what they're putting out, and it can't be
a coincidence that all these things and all these trends start, right,
(01:01:40):
they're being designed, right, and there's probably subliminals been put
into stuff. And no doubt the music, right, Like look
at the music they promote to teenagers, right, it's all
very dark and ritualistic, right, all these people. So I
did a couple of interviews with Jerry Marzinski.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
A while back.
Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
I just had them on the other day.
Speaker 5 (01:02:00):
Oh there you go, so yeah, very interesting, and he
talks about like literally he's been talking to these spirits
that are inside people that are possessing them. So, as
far as I'm concerned, it's a real thing. And when
you play with these you know, dark occult things, especially
with ritual you know, rituals, you're opening yourself up, you
know for things that you don't have you have no
(01:02:23):
comprehension of and you definitely don't have the skills to
defend against and so it's bad, right, And I mean,
just look at the rise in mental health disorders, you know,
over the last couple of decades. Right, it's sort of
it's something like a curve with the amount of technology
we use, all right, So I see it very much
as the two D world, right, you know, the black
(01:02:44):
scrying mirror, if you want to call it that way.
You know that they're trying to suck us into and
everyone's talking about we need to go to the four
D world or the five D world or whatever. How
about the three D world. How about we just get
back out in nature and start talking to each other
and start not relying on the two D world because
that's where they want us. They want us lying back
(01:03:05):
in chairs, right with VR goggles on. And then that's
only a few steps away from us being batteries in
the matrix.
Speaker 4 (01:03:11):
Right.
Speaker 5 (01:03:12):
So I think people are a bit lofty, you know,
they want all this change, and they want the world
to you know, the world's great nature is awesome. You know,
there's nothing wrong with the creation. Man, it's still in fine.
If there's a problem, it's that it's been ignored, right,
it's lonely. Get them and talk to it, get out
and do real things. I think that's a solution, and
(01:03:34):
this is why the whole Internet thing is becoming a problem.
But at the same time, I think the Internet is
eating itself. It's fastly becoming unuseful. It's becoming more of
a hassle to use than not. You know, especially when
you when you're looking at information, you don't even know
if it's real. Is that AI is it not? Is
(01:03:54):
it a scam? Is it government? Is it a person?
We don't know. Even just the password is right. Every
time you try and get it, you got to change
your body password. But it's for our security, even though
we don't want to do it. It's all for us. And
now we have the brick card coming in in Australia,
it's the same three months I reckon right, they're gonna
have to show ID to get into YouTube. So all
(01:04:17):
these restrictions are coming up. So the Internet is quickly
becoming useless. It's eating itself. So it'd be interesting to
see how that works and plays out. But I mean,
with all this, the IDs that digital IDs, you know,
they're pushing it in England the UK, they're Prime minister
(01:04:38):
said basically, you won't be able to work or buy
food if you don't have this ID. So that's complete
mark of the beast, you know kind of stuff. But
people are already on the street, so I don't think
it will pass, you know, Nepal or at least the
story we got told was it was gen Z's rising
up against the digital ID and they and brought the
(01:05:00):
part of the house down and stripped off the prime
minister and made him run across a river or something.
So people aren't going to sit back and take this.
But at the same time, it's probably a good wake
up call that we're probably all online a bit too much.
I mean, you know, with yourself and myself. It's a
bit harder because this is what we do for work, right,
(01:05:24):
got to be on it, and that's you know, I
think that's fine. It's really the endless scrolling, the dopamine
hitting that I'm going to talk to my neighbor through
the phone rather than going next door and talking to them.
You know, We're going to have a zoom meeting instead
of a real made up I think that's the problem.
I think the internet can be useful in computers for sure,
(01:05:47):
even AI can be useful right if it's used in
the right way. But it's when we start relying on
it and it starts taking over our social activities that's
when it's becomes a real problem.
Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
Well, earlier you said you believe even in a sense
overall we are in an upswing period. We're just heading
through a bit of muck and turmoil right now. To
close out, what are your final thoughts about the direction
we're headed, any thoughts on how people can navigate the madness.
Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Yeah, I fully and truly believe we're going to a
better place as far as the system is collapsing, and
I believe it's pretty much freightful at the moment. They're
just propping it up and giving a story so we
don't see that. But yeah, I think it's all good.
I think it's falling, and I think what we need
(01:06:42):
to do again is get out and make real connections
with real people, have real conversations, get out in nature,
use our hands to build things. Right Like most people
build websites now, but they're just that's with a mouse.
You get out and use your hands and actually build,
you know, a shed or something, meet people, on your level,
gather you know all these things, because you know, the
(01:07:06):
problem with the system is not that it's that people
rely on it like we never used to. You know,
I'm older than you, no doubt. I grew up in
the eighties when we didn't have any of this stuff. Right,
the phone still had a court on the wall, right,
and it wasn't not you.
Speaker 3 (01:07:22):
I grew up in the eighties too, Yeah.
Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
There all right, So yeah, it was much much different, right,
Like you go for a drive in your car to
day and count the kids on their bikes. They don't
exist anymore. Back in the eighties, that was it. If
you didn't have a bike, you weren't going anywhere, right,
That was you'd ride for miles and mom and dad
wouldn't know where you were. They weren't worried. You're out
(01:07:45):
there building forts and learning and problem solving and learning
how to get on with different people, and all these
skills that we need to be a productive person or
human that they're not taught anymore. It's all over. So
I think we need to get rid of our screen
addiction is one thing. Like I said, I think all
(01:08:06):
this tech can be useful, but it needs to be
used properly. So I think as the system collapses, we're
going to slowly come out of our amnesia, right, our fogginess,
you know, walk outside and rub our eyes and go,
oh my god, there's a sun out here. Oh there's trees.
Oh my god, there's even people, you know. And I
think that's the answer and gathering. I do a lot
(01:08:29):
of live shows and we just had a weekend event
a few weeks ago out in nature on a farm.
One hundred and fifty people, no phones, and everyone loved it.
But the reason they all loved it is because people
are still so separated. Everyone had the same story. There's
(01:08:50):
no one I could talk to, and so many had
the story of you know, because of twenty twenty and
all that went on. They're still not talking to their family,
they're still not talking to their friends about five years
on and they're isolated. And everyone had the same story,
all of them. And so just gathering for three days,
(01:09:11):
like change their worlds. It was amazing. And so I
think that's one of the biggest things. We just need
to gather, Like we used to just hang out with people,
talk to people in nature without your phone, you know,
like don't bring you if you don't need your phone.
Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
Like I love it.
Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Yeah, we do something similar here. We have the Forbidden
Gathering once a year where we invite a bunch of
other broadcasters, filmmakers and fans of the show over here,
and we have a three day weekend blast. We have
a hike out in nature, have conversations and human bonding
and it's a great experience for everyone, and everyone's so
(01:09:50):
excited to come back and do it again. And I'm
glad that people like yourself and others are also doing
things like that. You're exactly right, we need more of that.
Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
This. We've just launched this.
Speaker 5 (01:10:03):
Which is a newspaper, an actual newspaper, and it's not online.
There's no digital copy. If you want it, we'll send
you an actual newspaper and it's all written like everything
in there is from our audience. They've just sent all
their stuff in. We can part it. And so just
(01:10:23):
things like that, right instead of being on a computer,
you know, going through TikTok, sit down and open actual
paper up and read something. Just these are just the
little things that we can do to get back in
the three D world, right.
Speaker 3 (01:10:35):
Yeah, right on.
Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
I love it, Man Campbell, thank you so much. Definitely
have to do this again. Much more we can get
into before I let you go. Remind the audience how
they can find more about you.
Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
Yeah yeah, our autodidactic channel on YouTube.
Speaker 4 (01:10:51):
Just put that in.
Speaker 5 (01:10:52):
I've got a couple of second ones auto didactic too,
and then all the sort of work and gatherings. I
do it through Tario Australia, which is my podcast, but
you'll find that on my channel as well.
Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Excellent Campbell, Thank you so much. Like I said, we'll
be doing this again. Until next time. Everyone, have an
excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.