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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Michael McAdams. Be sure to check
out my films. Doors of Perception is still exclusively on
Amazon Prime, I call it Louisiana's On to Be Rope, Channel,
Apple and more. We're booking guests for November. If you
have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest, email

(01:07):
me Forbidden Knowledge News at gmail dot com. Today, I
want to welcome Michael McAdams. He is an author and
lifelong spiritual seeker. Michael, welcome, how you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Well, hi, Chris, how are you doing. Thank you for
having me.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's great to have you today. We're going to be
discussing some possible challenges people may have when they're trying
to connect with the spiritual realms. It seems that in
the error we live in, there more people than ever
before that are looking into spiritual teachings and trying to

(01:46):
find some sort of spiritual connection. I know I was
a few years ago, and luckily I managed to find mine.
But we'll get your insights into ways that the listener
may be able to unlock their bit to communicate with
the other side. You've got some great insights we're going
to be getting into before we do. This is your

(02:07):
first time on tell us just a little bit about
yourself and let the audience know also how they can
find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
All right, well, thank you, Chris. I was brought up
with a foundation of faith, church based, Bible based. My
mother was extremely religious. My grandmother pastored a small Pentecostal
church in Middletown, just north of Cincinnati. My uncle was
a fiery Pentecostal preacher pastor, and he had founded churches

(02:37):
in Florida, Kentucky, and Ohio. So I have always been
more spiritual than religious, and a lot of us we
know the story, we have a foundation of faith. But
the great thing about a foundation of faith is that
gives you something to build on. You know the story,
but a lot of people think, well, there has to
be more. There just has to be. My website is

(03:00):
spirit speaks dot com. When you first go to the website,
at the very top, it says Spirit speaks to the
hungry soul, and then it says for all sincere seekers
of truth, when the student is ready, a teacher will appear.
And for me, that has always been appropriate as long
as I've been a seeker. And that vibration, that intent

(03:23):
that you put out by being a seeker will allow
you to connect with a book, a movie, a speaker,
an event. And it's like when you're ready to move
to the next step, someone or something becomes available and
that is your journey. That is the journey that we're
on in this existence.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
I love it. Well, I'd love to hear about your journey.
Tell us a little bit about your story.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, I had, like I said, I had been involved
in spiritual material for the longest time. My mother, Wilma Jean,
who had received messages and teachings dictated directly from spirit
teachers from the other side over a period of twenty
two years. She was not really comfortable with some of
the things I was involved in. I actually eventually had

(04:16):
a table to a group called Psychic World in Cincinnati,
and I was able to get messages. I did readings
for people. I did what they call psychometry, and that's
the ability to hold rings, watch's keys, anything that carries
a person's vibration. They would sit down at my table.
I wouldn't engage in conversation pump them for information. I

(04:36):
would just ask their first name. They would give me
something to hold. I had a legal tablet and I
would just relax my mind and I would start to
get a message, sometimes page full page, page and a half.
When it got to the end, it stopped and I
would read this message to them. Sometimes they would cry,
and it was more confirmation as to what they were

(04:57):
going through rather than actual prophecy. And that ability I believe.
I didn't think I was really doing anything special. It
just came naturally to me. And I believe that we're
all spoken to, we all have our own spirit guide,
spirit teachers same thing as angels, God's direct representatives, and

(05:17):
we all have our own that offer us guidance, leading directions,
support to help us along our way on our journey.

Speaker 2 (05:25):
Before we get too far into the spirit guides and
teachers and angels, would you say that there is also
a dark side to the spiritual realm that we must
be aware of.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
I believe there is and there can be, but it
does not have to exist for those who filter that
information out. And people say, well, first of all, they
talk about spirit teachers, and they say, why, you know,
especially religious people, why don't I want to mess with spirits.
I don't do anything with spirits, And they're confusing spirits

(06:04):
with spirit teachers. Spirit teachers again, are angels just viewed
from a different perspective. And people they asked, they said, well,
how do I know how do I protect myself? How
do I not let any negativity or negative information flow
into my thought system? And we all have our own
personal thought system like a little mini solar system swirling around.

(06:26):
And I tell people that what the best way that
I've found to be able to protect yourself is with affirmations.
And there are a number of affirmations that you can say.
And what you're doing is putting a filter, an aura
of protection around your thought system, so that you control
what will penetrate, what will come into your thought system,

(06:47):
and what you can lock out and protect yourself by. Now,
we also have that pesky little gift called free will,
and we can think anything that we want. But and
it takes a little discipline, takes a little action on
our part to be able to establish that filter. But
once you do that, you can make sure that nothing

(07:09):
that does not come from God or his direct representatives
will penetrate your thoughts system and influence your thinking.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Let's talk a little bit about your mother's experiences, how
she came to discover her abilities, and yourself as well.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
Well. She had again been extremely religious, daily reader of
her Bible. But her mother, my grandmother, like I said,
pastor to a small Pentecostal church, and she would receive sermons
dictated to her mind and thought that she would write
down and preach in church. And she would even receive

(07:50):
verses to songs that she would put to music. And
in the book my book is titled an Angel Told
Me So. And in the book in the photo gallery,
there are six verses to a song that my grandmother
received lying in a hospital in Columbus, Ohio, and she
had a pen and paper beside her night on a

(08:10):
nightstand beside her bed, and those six verses will almost
bring you to tears, dictated word for word. So when
I had gotten involved in some of this material, I
had asked my mother at one time, I said, can
you have an open mind? And she said yes, she
said I can have an open mind. And I had

(08:31):
shared some of the information that I had received. And
when she had first started, she had been spoken to.
She had been told things in her mind, like most
all of us are. And some people think it's their
intuition or their conscience, their imagination. They don't really know
where this information is coming from. But it is available

(08:53):
to all of us if we just pay attention and
relax our mind. So Wilma Jean, my mother, when she
was to sit down in these dedicated sessions, she had
received in thought before, and she had been receiving these
messages and teachings, i'd say for a number of years,
but she wasn't really sure if she wanted to put
these in a book. I was the one that said

(09:15):
this material is too deep. Too profound, too applicable to
everyone who reads it. And she was working around the
kitchen one day and these words, this message started to
come into her mind in thought, and she picked up
pen and paper. She had beautiful handwriting, I may I
share this message with you and your audience?

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (09:35):
Sure, all right, just to let people know how these
spirit teachers speak. So this was a message that she
felt was confirmation she should put these messages and teachings
in a book. She had been praying about it. Emptiness
is part of fulfillment. Let your resources fill the void
left so that distinction of your purpose can be found.

(09:58):
Expression is always self explained. Therefore, look inside and anchor
all your beliefs, beside those still waters that will take
away your troubled view and renew your strength to recapture
that which was lost but is now found to be
adequate to pursue the course set before you. And as
you reconcile your being to represent those qualities that have

(10:20):
been left intact, God will see to it that although
circumstances have been trying to say the least, your weariness
will disappear as clouds once removed, allow the sun to shine,
to dispel the gloom and darkness that has pervaded your
countenance and is once described before, a token of this
presence will be deposited to your account and books recorded

(10:45):
in his name. And she felt that was confirmation that
she should put these messages in teachings in a book.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Now, when you're talking about receiving the messages, can you
describe how it comes through for you or how it
came through for your mother?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
Even well for me and for most people, I have
always been spoken to in thought and thoughts that are incoming,
thoughts that come from our spirit. Teachers, spirit guides have
a different feel in your mind. It's a different feel
than a thought that you think. It's a subtle difference,

(11:23):
but once you can recognize it, then you know when
you're being told, I'd slow down a behead IFIRE were you.
You know I wouldn't buy that car if I were you.
You know where does that come from? You're not thinking
about anything, You've got the radio turned off. So that
is how it works for me, and again, Wilma, my mother.

(11:43):
Wilma Jane had been given information and thought before, but
when she was led to sit down in these dedicated sessions,
she had set up an electric typewriter in her kitchen,
and this was not channeling. You're probably know what channeling is. Channeling.
You have psychics, mediums who will do a reading and

(12:04):
they will channel your spirit teacher through themselves. Sometimes their
voice will change, even an expression may change, and then
they'll get a message that they write down. And then
there's automatic writing where people spirit medium psychics will do
the same thing, only they will tune in, relax their
mind with a tablet and a pen, and their hand

(12:25):
will start to move and they will write a message
and get a message for you, always coming from your
spirit teachers or spirit guides. When Wilma Jean was led
to sit down in these sessions, she had set up
an electric typewriter in her kitchen and she would go
in light a candle, say a prayer, ask for protection
because you are opening your mind, and she said that

(12:47):
she would see three or four words just float into
her mind and hang there. They would not go away
until she typed them. Once she typed those three or
four words, they would just fade away and three or
four more show up. She was taking dictation and she
would receive in a message. In a session, she would

(13:07):
get a message for her addressed to her by name
from her spirit teachers. And then in that same session,
she would receive a message to me, addressed to me
from my spirit teachers, and they would have a different tone.
You could tell that it was different teachers offering the information,
but it would have a different tone, and discuss what

(13:27):
we were dealing with, what our role was to play
in this work, where we were headed, that sort of thing.
But it's like these messages and teachings are woven with
a universal thread, and everyone who has read these messages
have said, well, this sounds like what I'm dealing with.
This sounds like they're talking to me. And I tell people,

(13:47):
I say, when you get the book, read each message
once as it was given for my mother and given
for me. Then read that same message again as if
it's being presented for you, and see what hits amazing.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
What hints you mentioned channeling and how there should be
a level of protection because you're opening your mind. How
would one go about that, and how would one question
the messages that are coming through or test them in
a sense.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
Well, I like the way you phrase that, because the
Bible says test the spirit, and these spirit teachers they
don't mind taking a quiz. You can test them with
the little things and just see what happens, and that
will help build your confidence. But again, affirmations. I think
an affirmation that was given to me so long ago.

(14:41):
It's like I've always had it. I don't remember when
i didn't have it in my mind. And this just
came to me and it said, let no thoughts, ideas,
or information be made known to my mind that does
not come from God or his direct representatives. And you
can think that or say that as many times as
you need, and you can use that to deflect any

(15:03):
negative information that may come into your mind. Now, negative
may be something that you don't want to think or
you don't believe is applicable to your thoughts system, but
it could also be something that's going to happen that
you could then be aware of. Be positive in nature,
be prepared for. I knew a lady one time. We

(15:24):
were talking and she said that, and she was Christian,
and we were talking about all of this, and she
said that she was working around the house one day
and she sat, out of nowhere, a thought came into
her mind, and it said, your husband's going to die,
and she sat out. She said, no, he's not, and
that was it. That was all she got, but by

(15:47):
what they were doing, and he did eventually not too
long after that. He had health problems anyhow, and he
did pass away. But they were preparing her, telling her
to get prepared, do what she had to do because
she was going to be alone and she was going
to have to take care of all this. She denied
it at first, but she finally realized what was going on.

(16:09):
They were just telling her. They were letting her know.
I mean, you're not normally told anything like that, but
she was because they felt she needed to be prepared.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
You mentioned how Christians may react to channeling or interactions
with quote unquote spirits. There is a lot of seeming
fear behind it, baggage and dogma associated with a lot
of Christian beliefs, And when you mentioned channeling spirits, it's

(16:41):
very off putting for some of them. It puts a
lot of fear into their minds. What would you tell
them about the reality of communicating with spirits and what
you're actually communicating with.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
Well, again, it's not spirits. It is spirit teachers that
we're dealing with. We each have our own and there
is a spiritual realm that exists adjacent to this physical plane,
right next to us, adjacent. And for Christians, for people
of faith, that spiritual realm would be to them heaven.

(17:20):
But the spiritual realm, I believe, is much more than
just a place called heaven. We are separated from this
spiritual realm by a veil, a vibration, a frequency. We
don't really know what the medium is that separates us
from this spiritual realm. And I tell people and said,

(17:40):
there is no death. We never really die, it's just graduation.
We ride around in these bodies the way we ride
around in our cars. These bodies are just a vehicle
to negotiate this physical plane. And when you cross over,
when your body is worn out, or if you're taken
you know before it's your time by accident or health reasons,

(18:02):
then you cross over and you are then part of
that spiritual realm, your spiritual self. You had called it
your higher self at one time. Your spiritual self will
then move into the spiritual realm and you go to
an evaluation center. You get to look back and see
how you lived your life, what you did right, what

(18:24):
you did wrong, what you could have done better how
you treated people, And then are we reassigned. You know,
we're born to a certain set of parents and a
certain social station for whatever it is, what we're supposed
to accomplish in this lifetime. I mean, look at the
children born to Bill Gates and Steven Spielberg. They'll want
for nothing. You granted, they'll have their challenges, but that

(18:46):
kind of wealth and connection makes all the difference in
the world. And then you've got people born to alcoholic
fathers drug addicted mothers. Look at Vice President Vance JD.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Vance.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
His mother was a drug addict and they were born poor,
actually close to where I live in Ohio, and he
joined the Marines. He you know, put himself through college
and now he's Vice President of the United States. Look
at what he had to overcome to get to where
he's at. And then you talk about people who believe

(19:18):
that when we cross over, when we die for them death,
then it's either the good place or the bad place.
And look at the people that are living on the
street in San Francisco, La. You know, drug addicts living
from one fixed to the next, no home, sleeping on
the street. That to me would be hell to most

(19:39):
people that would be hell on this earth. Maybe that
is their hell that they're going through now, and you
could be born in communist China, North Korea, Russia. There's
no end to the places on this planet where people
live lives of suffering, and maybe that is there's a
reason that they're living a life in this exis distance

(20:00):
in that manner, but it doesn't mean that it's permanent
and forever that we'll never get a chance for a
reprieve or a do over. The Bible talks about, you know,
heaven and hell, but if you think about the mindset
of the people that you know, when the Old Testament
was written, you're dealing with civilization and people that had

(20:21):
lived with conquerors and kings and rulers and pharaohs for
thousands of years. And even the term kingdom of heaven.
You know, why did Jesus use the term kingdom of heaven?
Because you were dealing with a populace whose ancestry had
dealt with kings all their life. They couldn't comprehend a

(20:43):
spiritual realm adjacent to this physical plane right next to us,
but they could comprehend a place above us called heaven. Now,
because of SpaceX and NASA and the James Webb telescope.
We know that you know above us preachers. My uncle,
fiery Pentecostal preacher, would always talk about going up into heaven.

(21:05):
It's always up into heaven or down into hell, and
that concept was built, I think, for the understanding of
people with a lesser understanding of the spiritual realm vibrations
or frequencies that we have today.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
As far as the spiritual realms the afterlife, do you
think that there is different levels to this lower and
higher levels.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
You mean, to this physic or to the spiritual realm,
to the spiritual realm. I believe there are definitely, it's populated.
The spiritual realm is populated by an array of spirit guide,
spirit teachers, master teachers, and there are even higher teachers
above those working up through various levels up into the

(21:57):
realm of God wherever He exists in that spiritual realm.
And in these messages and teachings that my mother received,
and there's actually three volumes of the book an Angel
told me, so, may I share this have us? That
is the book an Angel told me so, And that
was my mother, Wilma Jeane Jones, And these messages and teachings.

(22:21):
These spirit teachers in these messages, they even reference higher
teachers who provide information to them and they say that
they in turn pass that information on to us. And
many of these messages and teachings are signed with the
name of the spirit teacher presented the message, sometimes a
singular name, sometimes in plural, and it's like there is

(22:46):
a group of spirit teachers that are collaborating putting this
message together, but the signature may be a singular name.
And on my website again spirit speaks dot Com, there
are tabs at the top bio for me, bio for
my mother, and there's a bio for a television interview
that my mother gave in Cincinnati. You can scroll down

(23:07):
watch that interview. She's the pretty lady in white on
the left, and posted on her interview is a message
from volume two of the book. This was the only
time in a session where she was led to sit
down and receive two different spirit teachers moved in in
the same session, gave two different messages and signed two

(23:27):
different names. And it was obvious that the second teacher
was a different teacher than the first because the whole
cadence in phrasing the message is different. This first teacher's
message was little more than just a long paragraph, but
it's really deep and profound. May I share this message
with you and your audience. So this was the first

(23:47):
teacher's message that came in. There is a resurrection period
through which man must travel in order in order to
come into the realm of things. Godlike your to consume
and digest all that is given here. As this comes
from one highly qualified to meet the needs of this generation,
You are not the sole property of yourselves. God still

(24:10):
holds the everlasting command over your being, and in him
must one take refuge. You are to be considered as
one who has been stripped of all belongings and left
to die by the wayside. In this manner, are you
then open to any health that would be forthcoming. You are,
by your very nature ones who would depend on your
own intellect to carry you through. However, by giving of

(24:33):
your soul into the hands of God, do you prosper
and develop more freely into that which denies the outcome
of some situations, knowing full well that it is the
hand of God leading and directing you so that you
may arise victorious in the end. There is never a
time when you will be without the Father nor his
ever loving approaches to see that you follow the path

(24:56):
that directs you homeward. Take note that we say homeward,
as your heavenly Father so resides in that vast, insurmountable
environment of time and space. So shall ye abide in
joint communication with him, by the grace with which he
covers you, and by your ability to accept disgrace and
use it for your own development. There are others here

(25:19):
who wish to make themselves known to you, So I
will step aside for this time. My love and devotion
follows you as you tried onward, but ever faithful to
your goal. That message was signed your loving God. Now
that next to the last line is the line that
made me sit up and take notice. And he says,

(25:40):
there are others here who wish to make themselves known
to you. My question is who are the others? And
where is here? What do you mean there are others here?
Where are you in relation to us on this physical plane?

Speaker 2 (25:57):
I want to go back to how people can strengthen
their own spiritual connection. Do you think that anyone has
the ability to connect with the spirit realms or should
there be some caretaken beforehand, as in mental preparation, emotional healing,

(26:20):
mental healing, things of this nature, before you should even
try and reach out to the spirit realms.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
Well, I believe again that we're all spoken to. We're
all born with the ability to communicate with our spirit guide,
spirit teachers, and people with a foundation of faith. They
are already ahead of the game because they've been reaching
out in thought, in prayer to the spiritual realm pretty
much all their lives. There is a book called the

(26:49):
Urantia Book. Are you familiar with that book? I have
a link to my on my website spirit speaks dot
Com to the Urantia Book. And in that book there
is a section on personalized thought adjusters, and it says
that at the age of our first moral decision, when
we make a decision that shows that we know right

(27:10):
from wrong, and it's usually about the age of four
to four and a half years old, we are then
assigned what they call a personalized thought adjuster, spirit teacher,
guardian angel, and that that adjuster will stay with us
for life to help us guide us direct us. They
can't control us, and we are able to communicate with

(27:32):
that spirit teacher personalized thought adjuster, and we are given
information and guidance that will direct our path. And what
you're doing with your podcast and what I'm doing with
the book is similar in that we shine a light
on a path. We're sharing information allowing people to step
up the level of knowledge and the level of communication

(27:56):
with their spirit teachers to be able to guide them
on this temporary existence that we exist in these physical bodies.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
You mentioned thought adjusters. Are there other types of angelic
beings that are assign different tasks to each person?

Speaker 3 (28:16):
Well, I believe again that we each have at least one.
It would depend on your level of spiritual maturity and
how far long that you are in your journey, and
then you've got you know, spirit guide, spirit teachers. Christians
always normally pray to God, but I believe that it
is angels spirit teachers who facilitate what they're praying for

(28:39):
and try and help them along their way. I mean,
God takes care of the big stuff. But what good
would it do to have You're talking billions of spirit teachers,
one for each person on the planet, and what good
would it do to have them and not utilize them
with the small day to day stuff? That we all
have to deal with, and there is I don't do

(29:01):
a whole lot on Facebook, but I was on Facebook
and I saw a post and I had commented on
your sign off your right shoulder that says I want
to believe. And I had read a post and it said,
I don't want to just believe, I want to know.
And I believe that people are coming to the mindset.
They are ready for two thousand years. We've been told

(29:24):
to believe, just believe, just have faith two thousand years.
And people have that faith, they have that knowledge and
that foundation, but they really are ready to know, really
ready to know. And this material, these messages and teachings
dictated from spirit teachers are proof, real proof of the

(29:47):
existence of the spiritual realm on the other side of
this physical plane.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
Going back to the difference between spirits and spirit teachers,
how do we be sure we can facilitate the communication
with the spirit teachers rather than just spirits. Is there
any techniques or anything we should know before attempting to

(30:13):
reach out.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Again, creating that filter that are a protection and allowing
an affirmation to be your your circle of protection and
then know that nothing that's not of a positive nature
will ever be made known to your mind from a
spirit teacher, or a spirit guide or a master teacher. Again,

(30:37):
depending on your level and how far how high you're
communicating with the spiritual realm, it's just not done. They
are here for our guidance, direction and support. There is
this real quick this second teacher that moved in in

(30:57):
that message where the two spirit teachers moved in, he
gave a page and a half single space tight and
I would not share that full message, but the last paragraph.
These spirit teachers, in these messages, they repeatedly end the
message with a profound, deep last paragraph or a really deep,
profound last sentence. May I share this last paragraph with

(31:19):
you and your audience. So this second teacher that moved
in in this session signed a different name. This was
the last paragraph of his message. You are not as
Sheep heard it here and there, but you are likened
into the lamb that has cared for individually, nourished and
loved until the full and total development allows it to

(31:39):
be master of itself. So is man so kept and
denied only those things that would not in the long
run nourish his spirit. God is all wise and loving
in his dispensations. We are not to judge the workings
of our Father, nor are we to judge each other.
Work always to improve your own beings, for in the

(32:01):
end time there lies your soul with all the nourishment
that you have given it, totally dependent upon the outcome
of your intentions. And that message was signed your loving
spiritual teacher.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
That's beautiful. I'd love to get your thoughts on what
we would consider the human experience to be. Why do
you think we are incarnated here? Is it for spiritual
growth purposes? Is it for us to each individually learn

(32:34):
certain lessons? Is there a larger purpose? And are we
reincarnated if we don't quite get.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
That all of the above? All right, everything that you
just said is exactly why we're here. And it's interesting,
And this just came into my mind. We were talking
about heaven and hell and that you would go to
a place eternal punishment, damnation for all eternity, with no

(33:04):
chance for a reprieve or a do over. And I
knew a lady one time that had a son that
was constantly getting into trouble, constantly from the time he
was fourteen till he was twenty eight years old. It
was just one thing after another, the money that they
spent on fines and bails and attorneys. He ran with
a bad crowd, and it was just nightmare for them.

(33:26):
She was extremely religious, brought up Baptist, carried a Bible
around with her everywhere. She went went to church on
Sundays and Wednesday evenings. And she knew the information that
I was involved in. And I asked her one time,
I said, is there anything that your son could do,
anything at all, that would cause you not to want
to give him another chance? And she just put her

(33:47):
head down and said no. And I said, what makes
you think God loves us any less? Do you really
believe that, based upon this blink of an eye existence
that we live in these physical bodies, and based upon
choices and decisions that we make, that we are going
to spend all eternity forever with no chance for reprieve,

(34:07):
no chance for a do over, because we were stupid,
because we made bad choices, bad decisions, maybe had bad parents.
Why would you believe that God would sentence us to
that existence and not give us another chance. So I
believe that being being reincarnated into a certain set of
parents in a certain social station is for whatever we're

(34:31):
supposed to learn in this lifetime. And there are two
movies that I recommend for anyone who would really want
a little broader perspective. And I don't know if you've
seen these, but I'll share these with you. The first
one is called Defending Your Life and that has Albert
Brooks and Meryl Streep in it. Really well older you

(34:54):
can stream them Defending your Life, Yes, really, he goes
to Judgment City and rip Torn. Rip Torn is in
that when rip Torn was younger and healthier. And then
another movie that I recommend is a movie called Always
and that has Richard Dreyfus and Holly Hunter in it,
John Goodman and there may be other movies with these

(35:16):
same names, so you want to make sure that you
get them with these people in them. So Defending your
Life and then a movie called Always and that will
give people a perspective on existence and the potential for
the spiritual realm on the other side of this physical plane.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Could you share some techniques with the audience that are
interested in gaining that spiritual connection but really don't know
how to get started.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Well, the easiest way to do it is just reach
out in your mind. That shows your spirit teachers, your
spirit guides your angels again. You know, people with the
foundation of faith, they have such an advantage because they're
already reaching out to that information. They but they stop,

(36:09):
They just take it so far and then they think, well,
at the end of this existence, I'm going to one
place or the other and that's going to be the end.
That's the end, like it just stops, and it does not.
But for people to open their mind share the information
with others. They can even advise others in what they're

(36:30):
dealing with and ask ask for information on a loved
one or a friend that's dealing with something, and see
what they get, see what they're told, and they can
share that information. And it's just a chain that will
continue to allow people to realize that there is that
connection to the spiritual realm, that we're all given, all given,

(36:51):
and anything that comes through is going to be of
a positive suggestive nature, and anything that does slip through
that is negative or something that you know that you
would never think, then you can simply encase that and
send that thought out into the deepest part of the
universe and reject it and not allow it to be
a part of your thought system. Again, that takes discipline.

(37:13):
There are people that are not used to thinking positive
or they may think, well, you know, why am I
thinking this? Why did that come into my mind? Or
luck with this person did to me?

Speaker 2 (37:23):
You know?

Speaker 3 (37:24):
How should I handle it? How should I react? And
that's where karma comes in. And karma is a is
a wonderful thing because what goes around comes around. And
the best way to describe karma is to you have
a bird bath with water in it. You drop a
pebble in the center, the ripples go out to the edge.

(37:45):
They always come back in on the center. And the
way you treat people, the way you deal with people,
the way you handle situations, it's you know, you just
ask for the ability to deal with these things and
that information, that positive information is always going to be given.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Earlier you mentioned reincarnation. Would you say that this is
something that we are going to continue to do many
many lifetimes until we have an understanding of why we're here.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
And until you get far enough along in your spiritual
journey where you really wouldn't need to come back and
live a physical life. But we're just still talking about
the earth. I mean the physical universe is almost incomprehensibly vast.
You know, we sit in out here on the outer

(38:38):
edge of the Milky Way Galaxy Third Rock from the Sun,
which was a great show. I like that show. Third
Rock from the Sun, and the Milky Way Galaxy is
our home galaxy. That's our point of origin. If you've
seen the movie Stargate, and the Milky Way Galaxy is
two thousand light years across. That's one hundred and eighty

(38:58):
six thousand miles a second at times two thousand years,
it's a thousand light years thick. And the next closest
galaxy to us as Andromeda, that's thirty light years away. Well,
the James Webb Telescope, the successor to the Hubble, has
photographed galaxies seven thousand light years away. Billions of galaxies

(39:20):
across this physical universe, trillions of potential planets with societies
and civilizations. So we could incarnate into a physical body
on this planet or who knows where we might be
sinn or arrive at. So we don't really know what
our journey encompasses. But it's up to us to do

(39:40):
the best that we can while we're here and realize
that not only are we not alone, but this physical
existence is not the end. It's not going to just
stop at the end of this and we end up
in a good place or a bad place for all eternity.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
You believe we may even experience other kinds of life,
worms when we're reincarnated, other planets, other beings.

Speaker 3 (40:08):
I would think, depending on our level, that we're probably
going to be living lives on this planet to start with.
And I have talked to Christians and people who I'd say,
you know, you don't really ask enough questions, you know,
about what's going on. You know, you should be able
to be willing to question a little more. And Jesus

(40:29):
existed with God in the spiritual realm. And if you've
read you've read the Urania book, Jesus was the name
that Gabriel told Mary that Jesus would be called upon,
you know, when he lived this life on the earth.
But in the Urantia book they give the name Christ
Michael to the son of God in the spiritual realm.

(40:53):
And Jesus decided to incarnate into the body of the
baby born to Joseph and Mary. That is the very
definition of reincarnation. He existed in the spiritual realm as
a spiritual being, celestial being and incarnated into the body
of the baby born to Joseph and Mary for the

(41:14):
purpose of living a full life from birth to death
of man on this planet.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Would you say it is important to implement prayer and
meditation to attempt to strengthen this connection.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Yes, yes it is, and to not only strengthen the connection,
but to be open to the advice for all that
we're dealing with and help us make better choices and decisions.
We're all a product of our choices and decisions. Everything
that we've ever done, every choice we've ever made, good, bad,
or indifferent, has brought us to where we are at

(41:52):
this moment in time and being able to have advice
and guidance that we can that we can count on
if we choose to accept it. That's the biggest thing,
is being able to be open to it and choose
to accept that advice and guidance that will be made
known to us if we just open our minds.

Speaker 2 (42:15):
What are your thoughts on the evolution of human consciousness
as it relates to where we're headed collectively the human
experience right now, there seems to be a bit of chaos,
a bit of confusion, but also people are, as I
mentioned earlier, having a sort of awakening, becoming more interested

(42:40):
in spiritual concepts, trying to find that spiritual connection, probably
because things are getting a little chaotic. But how do
you feel about the state of society and the collective
the possible awakening that we may be experiencing here.

Speaker 3 (42:58):
There always seems to be a battle going on between
the positive and the negative aspects of existence and thoughts
are things and for me people they put so much
belief in a being called Satan or the devil, and

(43:22):
if you again, one of the most interesting sections of
the Urantia book was the six hundred and fifty paid
section on the life and teachings of Jesus, and when
Jesus had gone on the mountain for forty days and
was tempted by Satan, that he was successful in defeating Satan.

(43:45):
And in the Urania book it says that of the
one of the assignments that Jesus chose to take on
was what they called the termination of the lucifer rebellion.
And to me, defeated means defeated. So why do people
continue to create a Satan or a devil or an

(44:09):
evil being. Why do they create that in thought and
then accept that into their thoughts system and claim that, well,
if this is happening, that is happening, that just must
be Satan or the devil tempting me, you know, without
realizing that it could be their own thoughts system that
allows that to come in and with the connection that

(44:29):
they can make with their own spirit teachers and spirit
guides and the higher spiritual realm, they can eliminate all
of that and live a more positive existence.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
You mentioned the power of thoughts. There are many that
believe that we can create thoughts with such energy and
power that they may even take on a life and
intelligence of their own in the spiritual realms and can
have effects on different people because of the energy that's

(45:03):
put out there from it.

Speaker 3 (45:04):
Oh, I agree completely. You project a positive energy. It's
an aura, an aura that you can project and it
will defend you as far as keeping any negativity away
from you and a negative people that would influence you
or try to and you people will gravitate to you

(45:27):
that positive energy that you put out. You're just out
in public. To me, it's amazing to me. People that
I don't know it's almost like they're drawn to me.
And I'm always friendly, you know, I'm always willing to
share information, but I don't know any of these people.
And it's just like you're walking through an environment where

(45:52):
your your goodness and your positive attitude puts out that
aura and energy that people pick up on it, and
that you hope that they will then in turn bring
that out into themselves. I mean, that's the best way
that I can describe it. People that I see, children,

(46:13):
It's just amazing some of the reaction that I get
just from a glance, just from a look, a smile,
and people, well, I probably shouldn't tell you this, and
then they'll talk for fifteen minutes, and so I don't
know why I'm sharing this with you, and it's fine,
you know, I'm willing to listen. One of the interesting
things that I've received as I was initially looking for

(46:35):
a publisher, I was on a number of different publisher websites.
One of the websites asked questions about your work. One
of the questions was what makes your material unique? Why
would anyone want to read?

Speaker 2 (46:47):
This?

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Great question? And I was sitting where I'm sitting right now,
at my computer I didn't really even ask for an answer,
but an answer started to be dictated to my mind.
It was twelve lines long. I just typed it down.
When it got to the end, it stopped. And I
have shared this answer with a number of hosts on
the air, and more than one has teared up. May

(47:09):
I share this answer with you and your audience just
as an example of what anyone is capable of receiving.
So the question was what makes your material unique? And
this is the answer that I was given. The uniqueness
of any material is in the manner in which it
touches the soul. An open and searching mind pulls the

(47:32):
soul and the body in which it inhabits onward and
upward with hunger and determination in its quest for spiritual nourishment.
Ever mindful that the path upon which we walk is
the path toward God. Lives, lived, experiences, endured, goals accomplished,
and loved ones lost are all encounters upon that path.

(47:54):
Strive always for the highest possible communication with our heavenly Father.
Believe in your self as the Father within you is guiding, leading, directing,
and comforting you upon this journey that we call life.
Blessings be upon you as you walk your chosen pathway

(48:14):
and that was not me. I take no credit for that,
and I just simply said thank you. Spirit.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Let's talk a little bit about some of the other
ways that the spirit teachers may try to reach out,
things like synchronicities, physical manifestations that can occur in our lives,
hearing certain things at certain times, a person calling during
a certain time period and that's meaningful. These types of

(48:44):
things that happen that connect to something deeper. Would you
say that that is also a spirit teacher type of communication.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
I agree, I would say that, and either a spirit
teacher or the spiritual realm guiding us based on what
it is we you know, the person we need to meet,
and you know, we can be kept away. A lot
of people in spiritual work, they wonder why it's so
difficult to find somebody, you know, it's it just seems

(49:14):
to be that a lot of people that are involved
in this spiritual work and working with the spiritual realm
are kept alone. And that's done for a reason because
you're kept alone to be able to have that connection
with spirit teachers, you know, angels. Again, if that's your perspective,
and it allows you to make your way in this

(49:39):
existence on the journey that you're meant to walk. We
are led to individuals, allowed to meet people again, brought
to events, movies, speakers, books, and that is our journey,
that is our path, and we're all walking a path.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Let's talk a little bit more about how people can
possibly implement some of these teachings in their lives, open
themselves up a little bit more to a spiritual connection,
and anything else that we haven't mentioned yet that you
feel is important for the audience to hear about.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
The messages in teachings in the in these in the
first three volumes, in the three volumes that are the book,
an angel told me so again, those messages and teachings,
if you read those and allow yourself I tell people
I said, read the book, read the messages as they
were given from my mother and to me, and then
read that same message again as if it's being presented

(50:44):
for you, and allow those messages and teachings to apply
to what you're dealing with in this existence. Be open
to leadings, be open to the way that you're led,
and allow it to be stepping stones from one bit
of information into the next. And decide that you if
you have that foundation of faith, build on that, use

(51:07):
that foundation of faith to build on. Know that you're protected,
know that you you have that solid foundation, but also
realize that there is much more than what most people
believe exists in this in this physical universe.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
You think Christians are limiting themselves a bit by being
stuck in that dogmatic perspective, fearful of communicating with something else.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
They I wouldn't say stuck, but they're confined. I would say,
you know, they are confined to the belief system that
is reinforced and taught in churches all across the world.
We we have that history again, the people that Jesus
walked with and worked with and taught you know, they're

(51:59):
they're ancestry was kings and conquerors and pharaohs and then
the Romans Caesar. They were all subjects to kings and rulers.
And the entire perspective that the Bible was written from
is from that perspective, and so they seem to be

(52:20):
locked into that. And the fear is that, well, what
if you're wrong. If you're wrong, I don't want to
go to hell, you know, I want to go to
the good place I don't want to go, you know,
I don't want to take the chance that you might
be wrong or misconstruing this. But if the perspective of
a spiritual realm on the other side of this physical

(52:42):
plane is just to a parent to ignore, and with
this information that we've got available now as new teachings
are made available, Dead Sea Scrolls, the Urantia Book, which
is an amazing to me, an amazing body of material.
Most people don't even know what that is, you know,

(53:03):
transmitted through an individual in nineteen thirty five, first published
in nineteen fifty five, been translated into sixteen languages, over
four million copies in print. Your Ranchi is their name
for the Earth, so it's really the Earth Book. But
that six hundred and fifty page section on Jesus is
eye opening, I believe. And then there it was another

(53:26):
I don't know if you've ever seen it. A and
E the Arts and Entertainment Channel had a series called
Mysteries of the Bible. I think it's still available at libraries.
It was an eighteen part series, but the last two
parts were titled Who Wrote the Bible? And there is
a DVD on the Old Testament. One on the New Testament.

(53:47):
I have it. I ordered it from A and E.
I don't know if it's still available now. You may
have to get the whole series or again you get
it the library and it would take various stories and
interesting characters from the the Bible and then do a documentary.

Speaker 2 (54:03):
But that.

Speaker 3 (54:05):
The last two DVDs on how the King James version
of the Bible came to be really tells people a
lot about what we're taught in church on a daily
bas on a weekly basis, and the perspective that everyone
seems to have that we're here for one shot, one existence,

(54:26):
and at the end of this existence, we go to
Heaven or we go to Hell, and that's it. We
never get another chance to do anything better. We never
get a chance to right wrongs, treat people differently, and
I just believe that it does not end with this
physical existence.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Well, Michael, thank you so much. This was great. Before
I let you go, remind the audience how they can
not only find out more about you, but pick up
your book and anything else you have out there that
you'd like to tell them about.

Speaker 3 (55:00):
All right, again, the book is an angel told me so.
My website is Spirit speaks dot com. The book is
available on the website. It's in Barnes and Noble system.
Any Barnes and Noble store across the country can order it.
Ingram is my national distributor. If you have a favorite
independent bookstore locally where you live, they all deal with Ingram.

(55:23):
Ingram can order the book and it's available on Amazon
as in most everything excellent.

Speaker 2 (55:29):
Well, Michael, thank you so much. Definitely love to talk
again in the future. And until next time, everyone, have
a wonderful evening. We'll talk again tomorrow, see y'all. Then,
the nature of this experience seems to always be just
beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
There's layers upon layers upon layers. Does add such an
element of mystery to this place?

Speaker 2 (55:58):
Why are we here?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Are getting closer to the truth now?

Speaker 2 (56:03):
There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious energies.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.

Speaker 3 (56:17):
People are waking up paralyzed their sensing or seeing something
very evil in the room.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I have experienced sleep paralysis. Shadow people start to appear.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
about these things.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
our paranormal research, which they will have the ghost. Well
what if it's all of those things and none.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Of those things, The entities, the intelligence that were just
beyond our understanding. There seems to be something a little
extra that can take forms of anything. I can't believe
what I've seen, but it continues on a daily basis.
We're definitely not alone. UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up a.

Speaker 5 (57:12):
Lively at this supernatural stuff. You kind of grow up
with that. Around here, you see a lot of strange things.
I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.

Speaker 2 (57:23):
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

Speaker 5 (57:28):
People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.
There's these bad things that occur, goals, UFOs, and all
types of things coming from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seemed to
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
There is so much more that we just don't have
time for in this busy, loud and noisy.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
Life that we lead.

Speaker 1 (57:56):
All of this is planned, Everything is synchronicity.

Speaker 2 (57:59):
There's so much much more out there.

Speaker 3 (58:00):
We really are picking up such a small, small percentage
of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
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The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

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