Aquarian Esoteric Traditions, Etheric Masters & Words of Power, Astral Imposters | Cyrus Ryan - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Cyrus Ryan. Be sure to watch
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(01:06):
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It's also the home of the Forbidden Knowledge Network, where
features some of your favorite podcasts and content creators. Today,
I want to welcome Cyrus Ryan. He is an author
and director of Northern School of Esoteric Wisdom, where he
works with others developing esoteric group work guided by several

(01:30):
Masters of Wisdom. Cyrus welcome. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Oh, I'm doing great. It's really great to be here.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Thank you so much for coming on. You've been on
your spiritual path since the seventies, studying various Eastern traditions
and practices, and as I said in my intro, you're
the director of the Northern School of Esoteric Wisdom, which
i'd like to learn more about, as well as your
spiritual journey, and as you stated in your talking points,
you wanted to share some of the esoteric you've gained

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over the years, as well as the communication you've had
with teachers. A lot to get to here before we do.
This is your first time on tell us a little
bit more about yourself and let the audience know how
they can find out more well.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
As you said, I'm the director of Northern School of
Esoteric Wisdom. It's a very small esoteric school, but we
have members from India, Australia, the United States of course,
and Canada, but not that many. But we are evolved
in an aquarian approach to spirituality versus a piscean myself

(02:43):
I started I met my teacher in nineteen seventy five,
and I had just started to explore spirituality, reading a
number of books, etc. Came from a rock and roll background,
but somehow things didn't work out. Used to what is
it promote concerts and whatnot, and somehow things just turned

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the wrong direction and found myself questioning a lot of things.
And then I somehow met this gentleman call him in
my books RN, and he had deep insights and a

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huge understanding that just blew my mind. And soon as
I heard him talk with a small group of people,
I knew that that's what I wanted. He talked about
the masters of wisdom, these enlightened yogis, who I usually
call it now, almost like a star Trek effect. They

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watch and guide over us, but they don't interfere, sort
of like the prime directive on Star Trek. I somehow
just awakened something really deep inside of me. And so
for thirty odd years until he passed away, myself and
a small group of people worked delving deep, and somehow,

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in nineteen seventy eight just to give an example. I
was meditating and I started to meditate. This force came
and entered through me, and I was paralyzed. I could
not move. But I knew it was a Master of wisdom.

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My intuition knew. There were no words given, no words anything.
I just it's almost as if it was injected in me.
Then at that time, I had rented this huge house.
We were sort of ex hippies, and we all lived together.
It was like a three story house with three bathroom
room's huge place. And I went and found my teacher

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and said, I just had this experience of this Masterrocracy.
And he says, well, that's odd. We have nothing to
do with him. That's not our line at all. And
forgot about it. You know, I just thought happened. It happened.
So then three weeks later, he's with his wife and kid.
They're on their way to Virginia Beach, that's where the

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Edgar Casey Foundation is, and they stopped in Baltimore sort
of halfway to visit some friends, and that night, the
Masterrocracy appears to him and gives him a word of power.
And at first he didn't believe it, and because he

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was not that interested in that. He's more philosophical and
more inquiring. But mantra is a sacred science with very
little but the fact that this master gave it. You said,
and then.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Power, go ahead is a mantra.

Speaker 3 (06:08):
Essentially, it is a mantra. The difference, to give you
an example, anybody can go onto YouTube and find a
mantra and chant it. It's sort of like to use
an analogy, if you're really hot and you have a
fan in your hand, and you fan yourself, you'll cool off.

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But if a master gives a mantra, it's as if
it's you have a huge fan, electric fan and it's
always plugged in. The difference is huge. So over thirty
years that mantra grew into an entire teaching and from

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that he was given several other words of power, and
of course he was transfer formed, changed his whole direction
of his philosophy. You might say he had his awakening
when he was sixteen in a place called Boro Budou,
which is an ancient Buddhist site in Indonesia, because he

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was from Indonesia, but eventually came to Canada where I
live in nineteen seventy three and I met him in
end of nineteen seventy four, and in nineteen seventy eight
the mastrocracy came. That's all covered in my first book,
Living on the Inner Edge. Quick little picture here, and

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then several other mantras were given. It took him a
while to really recognize the power that was in this mantra.
It was sort of like where little mice put in
a labyrinth and given a direction and some extra cheese

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to give us strength. But we had to figure it
out ourselves to see what it is. The thing is
is that it opened up a whole inner world that
you read about, and then we went beyond that inner
world and what happens, and there's a lot of to
use the term of your podcast, forbidden knowledge there that's

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only allowed out within the group structure or the ashram,
the inner and outer ash rap. And then when he
passed away, it'll be fifteen years this February somehow in
he died in twenty eleven, and sometime how after that.

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As if it was all, he had reached the level
it's called mantra shakhti. He could change the way you
feel in your being through chanting certain mantras. He became
like a master of it. But somehow it was passed

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on to me, not by any written thing or nobody
said anything, but the masturocracy came again with the present
group that has grown around me, and gave us two
other words of power, one for more how would you

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call entry level. Then there's the one that we have
now we call it the soul mantra. And then he
gave one that only a few of us can in
this group conngent of a much higher quality. And somehow
through this blessing, this group work is developing on an

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aquarian level. So what is the difference between aquarian and Pisician.
We're now in an overlap period between the two ages
fading out. The aquarian is coming in. We are like pioneers.
Like when the pioneers came to America, they had it
chopped the wood, clear the land. It was really hard.

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The Pican method is you have a teacher and you're
a student. Teacher would confer with the student, give the
students some direction. And the old days, like in the
times of the like Milarepa, many of these other great
saints that you can read about. You'd go into a cave,

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go to the mountain and you meditate and meditate, and
you withdraw from the world. The Aquarian way is working
in the world, but not being of the world, and
working in a group formation. So a group of like
minded individuals whose souls are of a similar level, not

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the same, doing invocations can invoke a lot more and
be more dynamic than an individual. If you read some
of the stories of the saints in India, even up
to the time of Yogananda who came to America, that
was still very piscean, still very belief oriented. The aquarian

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is group and understanding, knowing, not believing, but knowing through
x your experience, having the experience and learning from experience.
Both in the group work, it's more difficult, it's more costly,

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takes a lot out of you, but the rewards are
much greater and you enter into a different world of
knowledge that was not that available to people before. Sort
of started in the late sixties, even though the group
work started in nineteen twenties, nineteen thirties, but very slowly,

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and then it started gaining how would you call not popularity,
but more people getting involved. In Canada, in the US,
there are groups all over, most of them are very small,
but they're all experiments and some of the results are
very interesting, some are maybe not so interesting. I don't know.

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So I've been involved with this now for fifty years.
I'm not young, unfortunately, I'd like to stay young, young
at heart, with physical body, you know. Sometimes, but it
has been very rewarding. And then I wrote another book
called Esoteric Writings that talks about more of the present group,

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if that's visible, and the the advent of these masters
of wisdom and the type of knowledge that they are
giving us very different. And one of the things my
teacher used to say is that we've gone too far,
which means that you can't share some of this outside.

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Some you can, some you can't. And sometimes secret knowledge
can be staring you dead in the face, and yet
if you're not ready to recognize it, you can't see it.
And these advance beings use what's called blinds. You can

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be looking at something, but they put a b blind
over it, but you don't see it for what it is.
It's like hidden from you. And the great ocultis HPB.
Helena Petrovina Blovatski of the esophal said also that maya

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can be used to also distort and change things. So
a lot of people search for secret knowledge and wisdom,
but it's not readily available. There are certain laws that
conditions secret knowledge. For instance, you can read online a

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lot where people say, because of all the billionaires that
are around today, that there is enough money to feed everyone.
If they would share their money, there'd be enough to
give everyone, so there wouldn't be the poor, the struggling,
and the same way. But it's not possible because there

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are certain laws related to matter and finances, and money
is matter. There are certain It's been this way forever.
You go back to the row barons, the feudal lords,
the kings, what have you, rome etc. It doesn't change

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because certain laws guide it. It's the same with knowledge.
Certain laws guide knowledge, and certain types of knowledge are
conditioned relative to certain karmas and individuals. So a lot
of things what people don't realize knowledge is matter. It

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has substance. For instance, you can read, say an esoteric
book that has some real knowledge in it and not
understand it because some of it, like the books of
the Master Dkay through Alice A. Bailey, is actually written

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in the higher mental plan, though it looks in black
and white, and so is not easy to penetrate the knowledge.
Like if you become a lawyer, they have their own
language with not withal's and two withs and whatnot. You
have to penetrate the knowledge that the language. So there's

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all these laws that protect it. And the same with mantra.
If an individual is not prepared and has or learns
the notes, or someone who has the right to give
a mantra with the energy the shakti and gives it incorrectly,

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a person can go haywire because it affects all your
different aspects of your being that people are not aware of.
So it is fascinating.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
I think a good place to start would be to
get a better understanding of the etheric masters. That you're
describing what they are, how you are able to connect
with them, the modalities you use, and maybe some of
the most profound information received.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
That's an excellent question, and you want to write a book.
So these masters they exist on the Buddhic plane. For us,
you have the physical plane or physical water, gas, air,

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et cetera. And then for etherrak each plane has seven subplanes.
Then you have the astroplane where when you go to
sleep and you dream, you enter into the astro plane.
When you're at work, working at a computer and you're
organizing your thought, you're on the lower mental plane. But
then when you go to the higher mental plane. It's

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like Einstein when he saw relativity. He got the insight
for relativity. The higher mental plane relates to the laws
of our planetary system and how it functions time, dimension, relativity.
He got a glimpse of it. Then he had to

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take that knowledge down to the lower mental plane and
do the math and organize it. The masters live on
the plane above that, the Buddhic plane. For us, that's
the plane of intuition, not psychism. Intuition is a is impersonal,

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but sees in totality at once. So the masters having
at onement with totality on their plane, but they do
come down to the lower planes when asked in one
of the books called the Mahatma Letters, was written in

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eighteen whatever, eighteen eighties or something. Are the masters perfect?
And one of these masters, the master Kutumi, said, on
the higher plane where we see and we're in a
what they call samadi, we see totality and can see correctly.
But when we have to come down to humanity, we're

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actually affected by the miasma of the human the mass
human auras of the planet, and that can affect how
our knowledge is transmitted. So these masters live in a
for us, a formless world, but they said for them

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it is not formless. So the Buddhic plane is not
easy to touch. Most of us are in the astral, physical,
astral and lower mental plane. So being in contact with
these masters generally has to do with a karmic alignment

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from past lives that you have some link with a
either the Master an advanced disciple of the Master, and
it continues in the present life. So for me, I
remember I was at a party. I hadn't just began

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looking at spirituality and some young lady just came into
the party and people, oh, she just came back from India,
isn't that cool? And I heard her say well. The
people asked, well, what did you do there, and she says, well,
I went to an ashram And that word stuck in me.

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What's an ashram? I asked her, and she said, well,
you just hang out. Come on, it's more no, you
hang out. And then a week later in Time magazine
there was an article on ashurans and all kids going
from the West to stay in these ashurans. So certain

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words trigger what we call sam scaras. Some scaras are latent,
subconscious memories from your past life, so that can also
exist with a master of wisdom. But you have to
prepare your body, purifying your body, purifying your ideas, thoughts, etc.

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And then if the right circumstances occur. In my case,
meeting my teacher RN created that dynamic group orientation and
then it happened. It wasn't something that I went and did.
It's more it happened, and then over a number of

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years it evolved and now it's full evolving. So I
reach out for people who are really interested. I have
I call it Esoteric Talks, a zoom online meeting twice
a month that people can join Northern School. Same part

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of Northern School of Esoteric was we never charge money.
We live if you donate money or I pay for it,
because it's not an adventure to earn a living. And
so those people who are interested in have this karma

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link find us step by step slowly, and as we
in this group, there are really in the book nine
of us that are closely associated. And then there's much
more on the peripheries. Esoteric groups generally have three levels.

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If you go to India, the ancient temples had different walls.
You have an outer wall, an inner wall, and another
inner wall that represented the three different levels you get
to the holy the holies. This is an archetypical aspect
to an esoteric school. So there's an inner group, slightly

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more outer group, and then an outer group, and each
one their soul is at different levels. And most even
though I'm older, all my students are young. The average
age is about thirty five, which to enter the esoteric work,
the best time is when you're in mid twenties to

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early thirties because then you're more malleable and can adapt.
Because you have to transform your being. Much older, say fifty,
you're sort of setting your ways. It's not easy to change,
you know what these to say. The Jesuits used to say,
give me a kid before he's seven, and what is

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it changing? Whatever, there's a certain law involved in that.
There are certain periods of how the personality develops. But
for the esoteric work, I mean, my youngest student is
twenty seven, which is like a perfect Actually there's one
that's twelve because I know her from a past life

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and I know what's there, but she's only twelve. You
don't know. It's fascinating when you start to awaken inwardly.
For instance, I was at a Christmas party some of
my students and other people, and all of a sudden,
this little kid came running up and hugged me. I

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never met the kid. The kid was three, I think three,
and parents came over, like, what are you doing jumping
on this man. Then I recognized that it was a
person I knew that died about four years ago who
had been an esoteresis, and the kid recognized. So these

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links exist through time and on the esoteric path with
especially when you come under these masters, the past and
the present and even looking into the future meld into
one time. You become very aware of your past in

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your present time.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
Is it meditation that you and your group are utilizing
to achieve access to these realms and access to the masters.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yes, you need to learn how to focus your center
and create a center of awareness. Our meditation isn't like
a mindfulness you want peace. Ours is the opposite. It's
intense focusing inwardly. So we follow the laws of the

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yoga sutras of Pantanguli that were written thousands of years ago.
They're not even sure, but that is probably the first
self help book ever written. So in the yoga sutras,
there is the astanga yoga, the eight yogas or the
eight limbs. There's the four outer yogas and the four

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inner yogas. We concentrate on the four inner yogas and
the first one is called pratihara, how to withdraw your
consciousness from the periphery into a center point, and then
how to detach from your senses and build that center
point till you enter the next stage, which is called dorana,

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which means yogic concentration. It's a different concentration than somebody
working building a table or a computer. You're concentrating, for sure.
And then once you can achieve a certain level of
dorana of concentration, then you move into diana. Diana is

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meditation when you have yourself as the observer the object
that you are meditating on. Then there's the flow of
energy of observing when they start to unite, then there's
what they call a laya point. A layer point is
like a seal in an engine. You have a seal

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that keeps the gas separate from the oil. It keeps
a separation. There is a psychologic call it a etheric seal.
You know when you see a supersonic jet. There's many
pictures online passing the sound barrier and it shows that

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cloud around it. That's the seal between subsonic and supersonic.
It exists as above so below on the inner plane.
When you reach Diana, you come to a point where
you can pass through. So if you pass through, you

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enter into the final stage, which is called somadi. Then
you enter into a different world, and through that you
gain knowledge instantly. It's only happened to me several times
in my life. I'll explain about one in my first book.
But when what I've just explained to you now is

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what I learned through that experience by going through that seal,
entering into a different world that's called some proj nata samadi.
Then you're in a different world. When I entered that world,
there were all these beings of light watching. One of
them was focused on me guiding my center as like

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a point of consciousness traveling in bright space. But they
told me to focus on another point and then I
entered what's called assam proj Nata Samati and passed into
another world, and then entered into a past world, and

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then eventually came back into my body, and I could
feel myself entering through the top of my head. But
then I gained the knowledge of how the relationship between
the seer, the center of awareness, the object and the
relationship and what happens to pass through and to enter

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into the higher realms hasn't happened?

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Is there is there any kinds of intelligences or entities
that should be avoided whenever entering these realms or are
the realms you're entering free of any types of negative beings.

Speaker 3 (30:19):
There are negative beings, that is for sure, but most
of them on the astroplane. There are much greater beings
on the higher planes. More of these negative entities can
affect you, depending again on your karma. Many, many, many

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people who aspire to this type of knowledge have links
to negative let's call it schools of occultism from the
distant past. And when they start to make progress, sometimes
these schools come alive in their inner world ex luration

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and tried to capture them back, and then they sometimes
run into entities, but entities could be everywhere. Give an example,
two of my students moved into a new condo and
they were being bugged by some entity constantly, so I
had to come over. We did ritual, cleaned it out,

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and we found out the entity the building was built
on a bad land, might have been an ancient indigenous person,
burial ground or something, and they can feel the entity
around their place, but can't enter anymore. So as you
become more aware, you become aware of these different life

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forms that exist all around. Now, my wife is really psychic,
really clairvoyant. So we went to a bed and breakfast
a few years ago in the country and behind was
a thick wood and marshy area, and she was in
the shower. It came out of the shower and she said,

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there's a I hope I can use the word Indian
these or paint what he came into my shower. I'm saying,
you know, he says some sort of entity. And as
she said, I'm going to bed, and I went to meditate,
and I started seeing this thing and it came at me,
and as it came at me, it morphed into more

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of a how would you call it? More demonic appearance.
So yeah, it was some soul who might have been
murdered or killed violently, and then as his soul eventually left,
an entity took over his astral shell, and it still

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exists in this area on the lower astroplane, and if
you're sensitive, it's attracted to you can attack you.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
You said something very interesting that a person's soul will
exit this realm, but a negative entity can take over
its astral shell.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:13):
Yes, is this what we're experiencing with what we understand
as demons.

Speaker 3 (33:20):
Yes and no, because there are many different types of entities.
But on the lower levels. Yes, the people who die
violently because of the effect, they can have what's called
an astral shell, especially if in the past they've died
violently in the past, that astral shell exists and it

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recurs their death again. And yes, it can be used
by more what they call earthbound spirits that want to
connect with the planet. Again, they're wandering around in this
astral realm, but they want contact to the physical for
their sensual appetites, and they will use an astral shell

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many times in seances and whatnot. That's actually what's happening
it's not the person. The person's long gone, maybe even reincarnated,
but the astral shell may be there and used, and
it can be manipulated to look like anything.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Is there any particular methods that you would recommend for
people that are attempting to access these realms so that
they may avoid contact with these beings, are be able
to be aware of what they're interacting with in some way.

Speaker 3 (34:52):
One thing, if you're meditating, for instance, say you're in
a you know, in your house, bedroom or whatever wherever
you're mas to take you and say, it's a warm day,
but all of a sudden, the room gets cold. You
actually feel cold. Then you're touching some negative entity. Usually
the room will go cold. Depending on your practice, if

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you're sounding like the Ome, or if you're Christian, then
you can radiate the Ome silently with golden light until
the coldness dissipates. If your Christian visualize across, radiate that
with golden light, ah Man, if your Buddhist visualize the Buddha, Bodhisatpha, etc.

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You know, a lot of people have like what they
call sleep paralysis, and that's the same thing. What's happening
is you become paralyzed because your consciousness has moved onto
the astroplane, but you don't know it because you haven't
and train, so you're still aware. You wake up, but

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then you try to move and you can't. And then
sometimes you feel like you're spinning or lifting up or
you feel weird. That's an entity pulling you out. Then
you have to do the same thing. Sound theme over
O home RADI until you can move your body. Then

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you should get up and take some chocolate or something
sweet raisin fruit to anchor you back in your body.
You're being pulled out, which means that you have a
proclivity towards that from some past life, and that means
you may have been playing around what I'd like the
joke and call it hocus pocus in some past life.

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And that's how most of these entities come getting.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
Back to contact with these etheric masters and the information
that you've received. Could you give us some example of
some of the most profound information, at least what you
can tell us.

Speaker 3 (37:06):
Sure, no, one of the things that people do not
really understand. And I put it in my book a
lot and stress it as my teacher did, that our
soul we have the soul on the higher mental plane. Right.
Even religion talks about your soul. People say, oh, my
soul is. But the soul is dual, it's not singular.

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It has its reflection within the heart of each human being.
So the soul projects only a portion of itself. We
are only a reflection of a portion of that total soul,

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and it exists in our heart. This is what has
to be found to awaken. The personality. Doesn't awaken the soul,
stirs its reflection, but then the energy from the soul
then translates into the personality mind, and then you start searching.

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But that which searches is not that which awakens, and
uncovering that which awakens is the entrance into the deeper esoteric.
Thus the word personality, coming from the Latin persona, means
to hide. So this duality of the soul is hinted

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at in some esoteric writings, but not clearly. So I
try to make it clearly because it's so you can find.
It doesn't mean anything, it's just a certain type of knowledge.
But when you can find it and center your awareness
in this reflection of the soul, we call it the

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essence or the essential nature. Gerjev talked about it a
bit for those that have read the Gerjeff Uspensky work.
He said, the essence is what you're born with. The
personality is which develops. So we have to find and
that's why in the Bible it says become as little

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babes or something like that, become as that is this
essence that is the manger of the Christ child. That's
its esoteric meaning. Is this reflection of the soul, which
is a place which is neither dry nor wet nor

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forget there's another word, but it's hidden within us. So
meditation or the meditation that we do is to uncover it. So,
for instance, there's an ancient and I start most of
my students off with it, a meditation called atna Vichara,

(40:18):
which is self inquiry. I'm not this hollow, empty body
that's growing old and will die. I'm not my emotions.
I'm not my happiness, not my sadness. I'm not my anxieties.
And then i am not my thoughts. If I'm not
my thoughts, not my emotions, not my bodies, then who

(40:40):
am I? Then you come back to herms trimagustus man
know thyself, but one has to work through the labyrinth
of all our thoughts, feelings, pains, frustrations to find this
inner part that is a reflection of our soul. That

(41:03):
is an esoteric thought, but that's primarily what I teach
a great deal to help people find that and experience it.
Then they have experiences past lives, masters of wisdom, the disciples, deities,

(41:25):
and the other thing that is. I won't call it esoteric.
But because of our Western education and upbringing and the
way we're taught, we think we can do I can
do it. I know I can do it. I'm smart.
That's the illusion. You cannot do it alone. You need help.

(41:50):
The analogy is if you're in prison and you want
to escape, it's very hard to escape on your own.
You need generally help somebody to know watch the guards,
another one to watch how to open the doors, another one. However,
I never been in prison, so however, then you also

(42:13):
need somebody outside the prison, get away car, whatever, to
help you skid atle right, That represents like the Master
of the Disciple, they're outside the prison. We are in
the prison trying to figure out how to get out.
And a lot of people do not like discipline. It

(42:37):
takes discipline, perseverance, and strength and humility altogether.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And one of your talking points you say, the past
is the engine of the present, and everything requests and repeats.
Could you expand on that a bit.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
Yes, that's what we don't see. That is also a
very esoteric idea that there was a great saint. A
lot of Buddhist people know a Patma Sambaba. They call
him Guru Rimpichet. That was one of his statements that

(43:16):
the engine is the what is it dry? Or the
past is the engine of the present. Even in the
Bible it says there's nothing new under the sun. It's
the same statement that everything repeats. So, for instance, I'll

(43:36):
give an example through story. When my group was developing,
before it had really taken shape, there was this gentleman
who kept coming, but he was short, and he could
not let go of this idea, why am I so short?
He's like five two five three, I'm not tall in

(43:59):
five to six something. But so I said, it is
created like a trauma in you that in your past
lives you've been short too. So the thought and the
pain and the difficulty is still there. So where you
have traumas and difficulties in this present life is a

(44:23):
recurrence of something that's carried over. You know how they
say when you die, you can't take it with you.
That's not true. You take the essence of all memory
that's contained. We use the word cheetah. Cheetah is a
Sanskrit word that means mind stuff. The mind is subtle

(44:50):
matter and it holds memory. And this memory then is
the positive so to speak, in the body of your soul,
which is like a hard disk drive that holds this memory.
So then when you recur in your next life, those

(45:10):
things that you have not grown, overcome or overcome, they
manifest again. So the past is always driving your present.

Speaker 2 (45:23):
Would you say that reincarnation is ultimately a decision that
is made by us or do we have to achieve
something within a lifetime in order to have the option
to exit.

Speaker 3 (45:38):
Essentially, there is no option to agrate, There is no choice.
You have to overcome what they call the law of
periodosity or rebirth. You have to become what they call

(45:58):
an arhat. You have to go beyond humanity. So they
call that in the esoteric the fourth initiation. The first
initiation is when you enter into the mysteries and you're
searching around. That could go on for a number of lives.
The second initiation is when you achieve a certain control

(46:23):
of the astral or the emotions in water in you
the reactive aspect, and you start to purify it. So
what it means is that your consciousness is moving more
from the physical to the astroplant. Then when you achieve
the third initiation, you become a soul infused personality. The

(46:47):
soul becomes the positive aspect the personality the negative. The
soul controls the direction of the personality you become. You
start to even develop certain powers at that time, what
they call cities. Lower level the soul is sometimes called

(47:09):
the temple of Solomon in the Western esoteric tradition. At
a certain stage, that temple has to be destroyed and
the consciousness liberated from the soul and enters the Buddhic body.
When that happens, you give up your humanity. You become

(47:32):
more than human, but the human karma is finished. So
the disciples of the Buddha were arhats. They had pass
this level. When that happens, then you don't recur. You

(47:53):
enter into another time body. Right now, we're in our
physical body. You know, maybe I'll live till I'm eighty five.
That's my time body from day to birth to when
I die. But you have another time body related to
your soul that exists for AONs and AONs, and then

(48:17):
when you go beyond your soul, then you enter into
the time body. We call it the logos, or call
it the inner worlds. So there are all these different levels,
so to speak. So until you achieve this, you have
no choice as to your reincarnation. It happens. But here

(48:41):
giving example, say you're an engineer and you've developed, you know,
the knowledge of engineering, and you about to die, but
then there's Third World War and our are civilation is
wiped out, and then it starts from scratch again through cavemen,

(49:06):
et cetera, et cetera. You may not reincarnate for AONs
because you've got the memory of an engineer, and they
may not need an engineer until the time of the Romans.
So it might be thousands of years until you reincarnate
based on the talents that you have developed, where other

(49:29):
people some incarnate or rapidly depending on the need.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
Would you say that this realm, this reality is essentially
a school for us to learn and ascend those different
levels that you were mentioning hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (49:51):
And there are different schools. That's why it's the Northern
School of Esoteric Wisdom. There are schools on the inner plane.
There are Eastern schools, Western schools. There are different types
and they're actually schools, they have different names. So Northern
School is an extension part of the trans Himaly and

(50:15):
ar Hot School or our Hot Brotherhood, which is that
particular school that was involved in bringing the ideas of
esotericism to the West from the nine eighteen seventy five onwards.
Previous to that, the West didn't know anything. Eighteen ninety

(50:36):
Vivacanunda came to Chicago, the World Religion Congress whatever it
was called, and slowly then yoga Nunda and yogis came,
and theosophy and different things all started only in eighteen
seventy five. Other than that, if you go back to

(50:58):
eighteen seventy five or United States nineteen hundred, how many
people meditated thought of the word karma, yoga, reincarnation. Nobody,
But today everybody knows those terms. I saw a truck
going by instruction. It's at karma construction. I mean it's

(51:19):
mainstream and they talk about mantra and business. You know,
you have your mantra and your sales speech or whatever.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
Do you think anyone has the capability of connecting with
these etheric masters if they're on a certain spiritual path.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
I would say so, it depends on your karma. The
Master d Kay, who wrote through Alice A. Bailey and
created those blue books, says that the link is relative
to karma, karma association and ashramic need. What do you

(52:05):
have to offer these masters? What can you do to
help humanity? They're not looking for people that just say,
oh cool man, I contacted masters and I'm just great.
But what do you have to offer? What can you do?

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Has the masters given any information about the current age
that we're in. We seem to have entered a period
where many people are seeking that spiritual connection, becoming aware
of the nature of some of the systems that are

(52:43):
corrupt in our reality, which then they turn to a
different understanding of what this reality is. And there's a
lot of people seeking answers right now. At the same time,
we've entered this rapidly evolving ten technological age where there
are many people reliant on technology and couldn't care less

(53:06):
about spiritual concepts. So it's a very interesting time we're in.
Have you received any information or do you have any
understanding about this specific time and where we're headed.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
Well, yeah, there's quite a bit, quite a bit in
those books of Alice A. Bailey on that. But also
one can see that or from my experience, as these
greater beings move closer to humanity, their vibration is of

(53:45):
such a nature it causes a lot of disruption. And
it is through disruption when people feel off balanced that
they start to search. If things are good and everything's cool,
and you just relax and chilling, you do nothing, you
watch TV. But when things are disrupted, like what's going

(54:09):
on now, especially in the West, that makes you think,
makes you question whether it's religion, the spirituality, or what
have you. But there's another aspect to it, a much
further or how would say, more far fetched. People like

(54:30):
to think of God and God in Heaven is perfect.
I think that's sort of what people think. That's not
true either, it's an imperfect God. If it was a
perfect God as above so below would be perfect. But
the fact that it's imperfect God. So if you look

(54:53):
at it. We live in a community of humanity and
all we have our neighborhoods, whatever. Then there's a community
of souls on the higher mental plane. But there's also
a community of gods on the much higher plane they
call the plane of Audi. And these gods, who we

(55:16):
have no real concept of, are evolving also. And as
they evolve, they don't experience obviously turmoil like we do
on our drama, on our emotion. But it let's use
a Star Wars terminology, tremors in the force that travels

(55:42):
down through the masters, who then get a hint of
what's going on. They try and inspire the disciples on
the lower level that make changes. And as all this
force comes down, it causes turmoil and change. And we're
moving from pican to aquarium. Now have you ever looked

(56:06):
at this symbol astrologically of Aquarius. It's jagged. Does that
look like smooth and harmonious? Its Aquarius is upsetting. It's
also unstrongly under uranus. Uranus is upsetting change, turmoil, and

(56:29):
so forces have been unleashed, especially through certain beings on
this planet like presidents, that cause this destructive turmoil. They
actually are unconscious agents. They don't know it, but they're
being used to help create this difficulty. Look at all

(56:52):
the tremendous changes that occurred because of the Second World War.
It wiped out all the feudal what would you call it, royalties,
all the kings and queens wiped out, brought in new technology,
changed was the precessor of is that the right word?

(57:16):
Brought out all the new technology that we have now
wiped out the old. So now there's another change. Eighty
what is it, how many years since this? Eighty odd
years since the Second World War? Whatever? Not quite nineteen
forty five, so yeah, eighty odd years because I was

(57:39):
born just after the war anyways, So another period of
great change is occurring, just like you're expressing it yourself,
and yeah, people are searching, and it's made to be
that way because everything is imperfect, and nothing, as much
as we like to say we're all equal, thing is equal.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
Amongst those layers of reality, the different realms that exist
beyond our perception. Would you say there is an imaginal
realm where our thoughts and emotions form eggregors and intelligences
that take on a life of their own.

Speaker 3 (58:22):
Yes, that happens also with things like the church or religions.
They create what they call thought forms. And yeah, they
have life on their own, and sometimes they get used
by entities, government, everything and ourselves.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
Also, would you say that's responsible for a lot of
the spiritual deception?

Speaker 3 (58:51):
It's been around always, but yes, And you know there's
an old story out of time. I'll tell it really
quick time. There was this yogi. The yogi was meditating
and finally he attained enlightenment. So he's sitting under a tree.
He gets up. He's kind of happy, he's enlightened. He's walking,

(59:15):
smiling and thinking of his enlightenment. Then he starts to
hear these steps behind them. The steps start to get
closer and closer, and he starts, who's following me? Then
he stops, turns around and there's this being and this
being system. Congratulation Yogi on your enlightenment. Why don't you

(59:36):
teach me it? And I'll organize it. So then the
essence is lost in the organization. Thus, large organizations caused
the problem. Interesting and then we like to use the
term not me but humanity. The idea of the ego,

(59:57):
I call it the spiritual egos who they want to
earn money. They want power, etc. People want power. They
want here look at me and look what I know.
That's why I don't charge money and I don't do
a lot, but try to reach out through my books
a couple of things for people to get a deeper knowledge.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Last few minutes, is there anything that we didn't cover?
Any final thoughts that you'd like to leave us with.

Speaker 3 (01:00:27):
We covered a lot we did. You know, everybody has opportunity,
but everyone has to make their own effort. Praying doesn't
really work, right. What's that old saying? God helps those
who help themselves. You have to make the effort. You

(01:00:47):
have to want it. There are four watchwords of the
occultis that is to will, to know, to dare, and
to be silent. You have to will it. You have
to want it. Then you have to know it. You
have to study it. You have to integrate with it.

(01:01:10):
It can't be just locked up in one part of
your brain. But then you have to be daring. Can't
just go along and hoping sitting every day, meditating is
what's going to do it. You have to be daring.
And that's why if you read many of the stories
of the ancients, some of the things that they did
were quite bizarre. In order to gain knowledge, then you

(01:01:32):
have to learn to be silent inwardly. So those are
called the four Watchwords that are written on the outside
of the Sacred Temple to the Inner worlds.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Well, excellent Cyrus, this was fascinating. We'll definitely have to
talk more in the future. Before I let you go,
let the audience know how they can find out more
about you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
So Northern School of Essay Wisdom or ww DOT Northern
School of Esoteric Wisdom. My book Esoteric Writings Teaching for
the Aquarium Age has a great deal in its three
hundred and somewhat pages. My first book, Living on the
Inner Edge. You want something that symbol if you can

(01:02:20):
figure that that is ocult knowledge, it's very how would
you say cabalistic? Very few. I wrote a little bit
about it in the book, but only a couple of
people have penetrated to a little bit of the knowledge
of that symbol itself. It's not mine, it was given

(01:02:41):
to me. So you can reach me. We have esoteric
talks twice a month on Tuesday nights at seven point
thirty where you discuss all these different things, and you
can contact me through Northern School of esoteric wisdom. The
way we site gets a lot of play lately. I'm

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Speaker 2 (01:03:07):
Oh that's great. Thank you so much. This was great.
Definitely love to talk again in the future and until
next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.
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