Beings Beyond: Interdimensional, Telluric, Demons & Fae - Human Abduction | Phoenix Aurelius - Forbidden Knowledge News

Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello friends. We are excited. We are having our fundraiser
for our third film, which is going to be a
little different than the first two. It's going to be
a sci fi comedy mockumentary. We've got some fun stuff
planned for this one, and if you'd like to help
us get started with production, that would be incredible. We

(00:22):
don't have investors or sponsors, and we have always kept
an extremely low budget for our films and we've been
able to do our best with the resources available. Production
for the third film has been put on hold due
to unforeseen events, but we're ready to get up and
running again. We are hoping to start traveling for filming

(00:42):
by October. If you would like to help us resume production,
step up our game, and continue to bring you in
enlightening and entertaining films, you can leave a donation using
the link right there in the description. Any donation of
fifty dollars or more, you'll get a one on one
discussion with myself, downloads of all films, a PDF of

(01:05):
Warning from History and Lee Harvey Oswald in black and white,
as well as the audiobook versions. I really hope to
meet some of you on our travels and we also
want to thank you for all the incredible support over
the years. We hope to continue to do this for
many years to come. I think it's just going to

(01:28):
get weirder and weirder and weirder, and finally it's going
to be so weird that people are going to have
to talk about how weird it is.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Eventually people are going to say, what the hell is
going on. It's not enough to say it's nuts. You
have to explain why it's so nuts. The invention of
artificial life, the cloning of human beings, possible contact with extraterrestrials.
The systems which are in place us to keep the

(02:01):
world same are in utterly and adequate to the forces
that have been unleashed.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Phoenix Aurelius. Be sure to check
out my film's Doors of Perception is on Amazon Prime,
I'll call it Louisiana's on twov Roku, Channel, Apple and
many more platforms. It's a great way to help support
Forbidden Knowledge News and help us get started with production
on our next film. We're booking guests for October if

(02:35):
you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest,
email me Forbidden Knowledgenews at gmail dot com. Today, I
want to welcome back to the show Phoenix Aurelius. He
is a philosopher alchemists bajuris teacher and founder of the
Phoenix Aurelius Research Academy. Phoenix Welcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
How you doing, hey man, I'm doing great. Thank you
so much for having me back back.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Man, it's great to have you back. Last time you
on we discussed the dark side of magic, curses, hexes,
and even some of the negative entities that exist beyond
our perception that may even be associated with some of
those magical practices. Today, I thought we could get further
into the nature of those entities and intelligences, good, bad,

(03:21):
or indifferent, as well as ways we can be aware
of circumstances or behaviors that may attract these beings. So
there's a good bit to get to before we do.
Remind the audience just a little bit about yourself and
let them know how they can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Sure. Yeah, So I've been practicing various forms of magic
since I was eight years old, been practicing alchemy since
I was sixteen years old, didn't know that it was alchemy.
Though I started with spageria, I didn't know that spageria
was part of alchemy until a couple of years later.
I think I was about eighteen to nineteen, and then
I just belve headlong into the practice and that got

(04:01):
me interested in all sorts of esoteric subjects and hermeticism,
lots of other things, and it just kind of broadened
my scope of awareness and being insatiable as I am,
and my appetite for all things. Really, I just kept
diving down lots and lots and lots of other rabbit holes.
So yeah, folks can find me at phoenixrelius dot org

(04:22):
and learn about the full gambit of things that I offer,
including all of these spijeric tincstures, minerals and IDF work
and all the other things that I do.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Right on, well, let's learn about some of the intelligences
that exist just beyond our perception. We touched on this
last time, but I want to get a deeper understanding
of the nature of these beings, how to become aware
of them, the dangers, and we'll even get into some
positive things, some positive beings as well. But let's start

(04:54):
with the more negative stuff, starting with etheric interdimensional beings,
things we normally won't be able to perceive, but may
have very detrimental effects on our daily lives and emotions
and things that we're doing on a daily basis. Is
there a hierarchy to these types of beings.

Speaker 3 (05:16):
Well, I guess it kind of depends on which tradition
that you follow, because in various different traditions they would
say absolutely, and certainly in my own investigations known not necessarily,
it kind of looks like this. It looks like there
are a lot of different teams that are playing for
similar outcomes, or a lot of different entities that have

(05:38):
similar food stuff we can talk about as well, and
they tend to behave in very particular ways. Some of
those beings can get some of those entities can get
kind of knocked out of their order of predation. I
guess you could call it by more voracious beings or

(05:59):
more gracious entities. But is one really better or stronger
or is there a hierarchy the way that we think
about it, probably not, no, not the way that I
have seen things, but the traditional answers from most of
the practices of Western occultism at any rate would definitely

(06:19):
agree so, and also like different systems of magic and
different systems entities, demons, et cetera. From the far East
say that there are two, but we have to compare
apples to apples and oranges to oranges. And Western entities
and demons are largely a Judeo Christian invention. And by invention,

(06:43):
I don't necessarily mean that they just materialized out of
thin air as a thought, but it was the way
that people try to take these unseen entities and fit
some sort of theory or hierarchy behind it. That is
very different. And most modern Western occultism is very very
heavily based on the Judeo Christian types of entities. Particularly

(07:08):
they like to deal with demons. They don't mention many
other different types of entities. Even in the Middle Ages
when we were talking about you know what we now
refer to in Auurlian cosmology as telluric entities, you know,
different types of spirits of the earth, and you know, rivers, rocks,
sacred places, things like that. They also kind of got

(07:30):
relinquished into being demons at a certain point anywhere between
about six hundred AD, really to you know, even the
modern era. The practices in the way that we look
at them, the official church narratives and different types of
things like that, those tend to change over time, but
the undercurrent and the philosophy stays exactly the same.

Speaker 1 (07:54):
Would you say that we had a different relationship with
these beings before the Judeo Christian alteration of the meaning
of what they are?

Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yes. Now, my own particular emphasis of study is in
Celtic Europe, so primarily Western Europe from Switzerland over, although
the Celtic area at one point expanded all the way
as far east as you know modern day Ukraine, you know,
kind of Russia Ukraine area. The vast amount of what

(08:28):
we have archaeological evidence and some anthropological evidence for really
is kind of from the Rhine Valley westward. And so
that's that's what I'll be kind of speaking more authoritatively
about here. But yes, and it always has, like our

(08:49):
interaction with even seemingly negative entities before the Judeo Christian
era of demonization really went towards trying to playcate and
create an interdependent relationship with these entities. They noticed that
things like crops would fail if the entities weren't appeased,

(09:10):
rivers might run dry. If the entities corresponding to the
rivers weren't appeased or weren't kept happy, rains wouldn't fall properly.
There'd be you know, a huge, huge series of droughts
and things like that. The main thing at those junctures,
when we take a look at them anthropologically, they're going
to try and tell you that those were deities and

(09:32):
that people were worshiping deities, deities of river, deities of land,
deities of whatever. I mean, that's just a really lame
anthropological misunderstanding. Of course, they don't have context for how
things had happened, and so you know, anthropologists and archaeologists
look at anything and they're like, oh, this must have

(09:52):
been used for a ritual, this must have been used
for this, and they kind of jumped to some very
broad and really lame conclusions realistic, whereas magical practitioners of
the modern era can tell you that exact same thing
that if the telluric entities of any particular area aren't say,
appeased or kept happy, nourished, well fed, reciprocated with respect,

(10:15):
et cetera, then they don't work necessarily in our favor,
and one of those big ideas really comes down to agriculture.
So teluric entities in general, there are a lot of
different types of groups of them, but in general their
whole job is to maintain the proliferation fecundity of nature.
They correspond to just about everything in the natural world,

(10:39):
including the spread of mycelium and communications with trees, the
communications that the trees have with their micas with dust
particles and other things in order to bring a rain,
so many other different types of things, and if there's
ecological disturbances such as agriculture, that are you know, basically
it's like Rudolf Steiner mention. When people decide that they're

(11:03):
going to engage in agriculture, they are essentially kicking telurc
entities off of the scene and saying, we, as humans
understand this as well as you do, and we're going
to take care of this whole patch as if it's
our own. You're off the scene. We don't need you here.
That does two things really. One, it displaces the telluric entities,

(11:23):
which they don't necessarily thank us for. But it was
common practice to be able to line your fields, especially
your agricultural fields or the clearing that you built your
home on. You would line these things with very particular
boundary stones, and you would bless these stones in very
particular ways that would keep negative entities out and allow

(11:46):
beneficial or less harmful entities on in order to perform
some of the minor duties the teluric entities are good for.
So that's one thing. The second thing is if you're
going to be clearing your space for like a dwell,
the trees that were on that space would all be
protected by a very particular telluric entity or an intelligence

(12:08):
of some sort, sometimes referred to as a genius loci,
which is a Latin term that in English basically means
the intelligence of a location, and you can't just fully
displace them without having some really harmful and serious repercussions.
So most people in the past would keep one tree up,
and the tree that was closest to the house became

(12:30):
the tree that all of the spirits of that land
would be able to essentially retreat too and be part
of and still have a place in the land with
that one tree, or perhaps with that one boulder, or
that one you know, whatever it is. In the landscape
that you're working with, where they stay undisturbed, whereas all

(12:51):
of the other lands are typically you know, blessed. Now
you would still go to that tree, you would give alms,
you would give offerings to the spirits that sometimes the
rest of the trees that were used in the building
of the house. Some of those spirits would actually become
the house spirits at that point. So you took what
were formerly land spirits, and then those land spirits said,

(13:16):
some of them, yeah, I can change my job. I
could become a house spirit. That'd be okay. And they
typically tend to dwell near the hearth of places, and
so it's customary to, you know, if you're going to
have a whiskey, for instance, to make the first few
drops of whiskey on the hearth floor to give to
the spirits of the home, thanking them for the warmth
and all of the habitat that they provide. Whereas the

(13:39):
other spirits of the land that were like, nah, I
can't become a house spirit. They stay part of the land,
and you still have to give them jobs to do,
and you still have to be able to help to
provide for them, especially if you as the dominae, the
master of this particular location, took it upon yourself to
you know, essentially clear out their area. You are now

(14:00):
essentially like the landlord. You have to take responsibility of
all of the entities and all of the beings that
are on any property that you oversee. Otherwise you're essentially
treating those those entities with severe disrespect. And that type
of disrespect can be met with an equal, if not
more intense level of disrespect on behalf of those entities

(14:21):
towards the landowner. So that's one really really important concept.
And all different indigenous cultures that I can see, doesn't
matter where we point to, all have certain practices like that,
even if not the exact same practices that were really important.
So that doesn't necessarily always extend into harmful entities, but

(14:46):
to a lyric entities can become very harmful or have
very harmful effects on people if they're not really well stewarded.
And you know, oftentimes in the modern age, we think
that money is king, and so if you paid money
for this land, that's what makes the land yours. In
the past, that's not at all what makes the land
yours is that you have made the oath and the

(15:08):
pact with the nature spirits to take care of this
particular area and them in a very particular way. Otherwise,
I mean, let's look at this, Let's take it out
of the realm of unseen entities and just put it
into the realm of scene entities. So if we talk
about Native American reservations and how they were corralled up,

(15:29):
taken off of their own land, corralled up and put
into other plots of land that sometimes they may have
had some sort of relationship to and many times they
did not. The type if you don't take care and
steward their culture and help them proliferate in the right ways,

(15:49):
then it becomes a really sad, atrophying culture and they
end up becoming self destructive, not only to themselves and
to the land, but also to the people that got
in them. And the exact same dynamic, the exact same
dynamic applies with unseen forces as well. It's just a
kind of a perennial principle there.

Speaker 1 (16:09):
Before we get too deep into some of the repercussions
that may be experienced, would you say that there are
distinctions that you can describe between to lyric entities and
what we would understand as demons.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Sure. Absolutely. In fact, there's this really great French author
named Claude Lucuteau who has given an enormous amount of
information and writings about this, particularly within the context of
medieval Europe, and so you get to see in his
very specifically French and German, but that extends to a

(16:49):
larger base in the medieval era because there was a
lot of church influence and so a lot of ideas
were actually pretty similar from locational location across most of
mainland Europe at that time. But yeah, so a telluric
entity is very specifically an entity that it's tied in
with the telluric currents of their earth. The telluric currents

(17:10):
of the earth are electromagnetic frequencies that flow through the
earth in order for the shall we say, proliferation of
all things natural, the flowing of rivers, for instance, and
especially underground aquifers, you know, bodies of water they're flowing underground,

(17:31):
as well as the growth of trees and plants, the
situation of minerals, in the formation of various mineral bodies
and different types of things like this, and so there
are a lot of different telluric entities that overlook those
types of things. There are also telluric entities that govern
over animal well being, that govern over just the delicate

(17:53):
balance of certain animals in any particular ecosystem and how
they're moving and influencing things. And these types of entities
historically have been the ones that are responsible for, say,
thinning out herds or bringing in more predators if there
are more herd animals that are deteriorating the plants. So

(18:17):
they all seem to kind of work hand in hand. Now,
other different types of demons, especially demons, but demons are
a sub classification of interdimensional entities, and demons really didn't
come on the scene until in most of Western Europe,
until we see the arrival of Christianity, where things begin

(18:39):
to be very clearly divided into heavenly forces and Cathonic
forces or hellish forces clythotic forces, and so all of
these telluric entities ultimately began to be seen by the
Church's view as being a holdover to pagan days and

(19:00):
pagan nonsense, and that therefore they were evil entities trying
to draw people further from Christ. So we don't really
see demons much in the Western traditions until the arrival
of Christianity. One might argue that that's possibly from scholastic
level because we didn't have that term, or that many

(19:23):
of the Western countries, especially in Europe, that were non Roman,
that they weren't literate, or they didn't write or keep
exhaustive records, and so maybe we just don't know about
them through that method. But through the oral histories, through
the legends, through the traditions, and even persisting through the
Christian era, we see an entirely different attitude towards what

(19:46):
is a demon versus what is a telluric entity, and
they're two totally different things. A demon is something that
predates upon low what we would now refer to as
very low vibrational states of emotional resis, so fear, deprivation, sadness, despair,
you know, those different types of things, and they feed

(20:08):
on it in a way where they're constantly promulgating fear.
They are constantly eliciting this sensation of fear inside of
an individual. And while it's a luric entity, if its
senses that it has been aggrieved or hurt or damaged
in a particular way by a particular individual. They may
also cause fear towards that individual. That's not their main

(20:31):
go to. Their main go to is really to just
steward over the things that they've been tasked to steward over.
They have jobs, they perform those jobs. They get pissed,
and they do angry things when their ability to perform
their job is significantly hindered or when their livelihood has
been impacted negatively, not too much different than the way

(20:53):
that the human psyche you would work. So a demon
typically is a type of interdimensional that causes severe fear,
and it feeds off of that fear primarily as a
way of kind of if you want to look at
it like this, hijacking the consciousness of the embodied individual.

(21:16):
And that's because a lot of different entities don't have
bodies or regular bodies to work in. They're primarily astral,
which is to say that they operate within the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
So would it be fair to say that demonic entities
are essentially etheric parasites.

Speaker 3 (21:37):
Etheric could mean a lot of things, depending on the tradition.
So as a technicality, if we open up the term
etheric to mean anything that can exist within the human
body of the interface between the astral and the physical,
which is to say, the electromagnetic and the material. Then sure,
absolutely they can be seen as etheric parasite. It's because

(22:00):
they are feeding off of your energy, and they are
like most other you know, small parasites, actually capable of
altering the physiology to a degree that it's capable of
making an environment more suitable for them. So, like we
know that a lot of intestinal parasites, for instance, can

(22:21):
actually release some chemicals in a number of other things
that you know, some of them have tails, these whip
like tails that they can do weird things with, but
they're the end goal is to produce more cortisol, because
the more cortisol that's there, the less that the human
immune system is able to seek out and identify these
these beings and attack them, and so they create more
stress like environments and oxidative damage that basically, you know,

(22:47):
they they set the hounds on the wrong trail basically,
and so do demons do the exact same thing. Yeah, absolutely.
They manipulate electromagnetic components inside of the human physiology, which
primarily relate down to our nervous and endochronological hiccups, but

(23:09):
also through the fascia and you know our whole nervous system,
our nerves, so like, can they generate pain absolutely just
by manipulating electromagnetic frequencies. And of course you know that
used to at one point be relinquished to this idea
of pseudoscience. But in today's age of directed energy weapons
and other things, we're seeing that the exact same types

(23:30):
of technologies are being utilized by governments and you know
other things. Is that we can create severe pain, we
can create severe endocrine disruption, We can alter people's ability
to digest, even for their heart to continue beating properly.
Everything can be impacted just through neurology and indocrinology. And

(23:53):
they know that, and they're they're able to utilize that
for their own self serving purposes in order to be
inside of your right, that's the goal.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
How much does an individual or even group of people's
belief affect the nature of these beings. Example, if a
person believes that they are afflicted by a demon and
they use the traditional Christian exorcism to try and expel
the demon, would it work because they believe that's the case.

(24:27):
Does it have anything to do with the true nature
of the demon and the response to Christianity. What are
your thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yeah, that's a really great question. So I cannot deny.
I've seen it too many times to even try to
deny the fact that belief can be an enormously helpful
and beneficial thing in eliminating any disease or condition. And
that also relates to the entities. And so if a

(24:58):
person is strongly enough believes that a particular say, exorcism,
is going to be effective, that belief that they have
may actually supersede whatever initial emotional resonance that they had
that drew that demon in in the first place. And
so you know, if they're filled with the concept of grace,

(25:19):
or filled with the concepts of elation, or filled with
the concepts of hope, all of those are much greater
emotional states than say despair, depravity, depression, etc. And so
that alone could be the mechanism that actually changes the
emotional or the astral terrain that draws those entities in

(25:40):
in the first place. So could it work just simply
on that principle, absolutely, But behind that our demons and
demonic influence and entities and other things dependent upon belief
in order to have effect on individuals, I would say no,
absolutely not. And in fact, so many people that I
have seen and worked on personally, including myself, have entirely

(26:04):
discarded and tried to throw this idea of entities completely
out of the window and say that's old world superstition.
There's got to be more explainable answers to why this
person feeling this way other than the supernatural, so we
can try to engage in things that would otherwise get

(26:27):
rid of it. And many times, you know, we find
ourselves being at a dead end only. And this is
true whether a person believes or does not believe. They
could even have strong beliefs against the fact that it
will work when we perform the IDF work that we
do here, the intrinsic data field clearing of these entities.

(26:48):
I have yet to see a single person, regardless of
their scope of beliefs, that hasn't noticed any enormous difference
and then also been able to see the data showing
that there was something in their space. There's now no
longer something in their space, and the data says one
thing that could stand on its own, but the other
thing is the person's experience, and if the person is like, nah,

(27:10):
there's no chance, I don't have demons, demons aren't real,
blah blah blah blah blah. But then I run them
on this broadcast they feel a huge difference and a
major shift in the functioning either of their psychological or
physiological wellness or both. Then that also seems to point
to me to the fact that they exist independently of
a person's belief system.

Speaker 1 (27:32):
I can personally attest to the power of that IDF
technology that you're utilizing. It's incredible. You helped me recently
with something that I was going through and one hundred percent.
I mean I was skeptical at first. I had never
done anything like that, but the results are undeniable. So

(27:53):
and we're going to talk a little bit more about
that as well. Going back to the toa lyric entities,
let's talk about some of the re percussions people may
experience if they are not respectful, if maybe they build
something onto lyric land. What are some of the things
that people may experience.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
So historically, at least in the in Ireland and Scotland,
we have a term for this, and it's called elf shot.
Elf shot very shot, et cetera. Different types of regions
call it something slightly different. But the idea is that
these entities essentially get you one way or the other,

(28:35):
either with you know, an arrows of the way that
it's sometimes conceived, or you know, other different types of
mythical style weapons or whatever. But the idea is that
once you're hit with these things, you begin to behave
in very strange ways. You lose a large sense of
your sense of self, you lose a large sense of

(28:59):
your connection with the divine. Doesn't really matter what the culture,
what the particular sense of the divine is that you
feel more isolated. And then also there are a lot
of physical things that can go along with it, and
maybe not just to you. So in Ireland, for instance,
there's this long standing tradition of the good people, the dinima,

(29:23):
the sheet fucking with your cattle.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
Right now, Fairies, what you just mentioned would also be
considered telluric entities.

Speaker 3 (29:31):
Absolutely, Yeah. Fairy would be a particular name throughout certain
cultures referring to a very particular type of laric entity
that they have in their landscape. Okay, and you know,
I don't think that a lot of these cultures actually
went into great science to try and dissect the differences

(29:52):
between various different forms of telluric entities, and so they
all came up with like various names for them. All
these things in the North tradition that relate to more
mystical or mythical beings on the land, those are kind
of what they have. They have zing dji n in

(30:15):
the Arabic world they have, and also in Indonesia. They
have all sorts of different ways of understanding these things,
but they're usually not very scientific and they don't try
and penetrate into the subtle differences between them. So if
I name a particular type of being like a fairy,
as long as they are earth based or dependent upon

(30:36):
the Earth's electromagnetic signature in order to thrive and live
and do their functions do their work, then that's just
another form of telluric entity. So these different fairies might
actually stop your milk cows from giving any milk, or
they may stop or prevent the ability for the milk

(30:56):
to naturally ferment properly, and thus prevents you from making
yogurt or cheese or any other thing like that. They
may also affect the individuals a lot of people got
very very very very sick, and in the indigenous healing
traditions of both Ireland and Scotland well into the seventeen

(31:18):
hundreds and still persisting in certain areas even to this day,
although albeit in far smaller numbers, in lesser percentage, there
are still people men are typically referred to as cunning men,
and the women are typically referred to as wise women
who understand enough about the fairies in order to give
you a prescription of what to do when these things happen.

(31:41):
And when those people end up doing those types of things,
they end up appeasing the telluric entities again, or at
least appeasing them enough that they release their stranglehold over
the health or the psychological well being, or the cattle
health or the land health or whatever of the active party.

(32:01):
And so this is something that I still see time
and time and time again, is if somebody has telluric entities.
This is even on my website under the Eliminate ends
mahi Kean Entities IDF protocol that we offer is that
if somebody has telluric entities, about probably sixty to seventy

(32:23):
percent of the time the broadcast alone will not actually
take care of it. And if it doesn't take care
of it, I see it in the data, and then
I send them a suggestion that says, here's what I
want you to do. I want you to think about
all of these times that you've been in nature any
any place. It could even be in your yard where
you went out and you use an excavator to pull

(32:43):
up a stump, or to remove older or take a
chains on knock down the tree, or in the middle
of the forest. You know. One of my friends had
this interesting story where she was walking through a forest
in deep Appalachia one day. She's an herb hearts, so
you know, it wasn't unusual for her to be doing
this at all. And she saw this beautiful rose bush,

(33:06):
and on the top of this rose bush was like
one crowning flower that was just absolutely amazing. In her mind,
she thought, I probably shouldn't harvest that, but she didn't
listen to that. She did it. She did that anyway.
She harvested that flower. Shortly thereafter, she went bonkers. I mean,
she was thinking that people were talking to her through

(33:30):
her head, that she had voice to skull technology going
that she had, which can also be a real thing.
I've worked with other clients that do have a voice
to skull technology thing. So you know, when I get
these clients, I have to say, Okay, I have to
assume that they know what they are talking about and
that their experience is real. It seems really weird and

(33:50):
contrived that they would try and make all of these
things up, so I have to try and assume that
the sensations that they have are real. The hard part
for me is trying to differentiate what is causing what,
Because to somebody who is lesser learned or doesn't have
the ability to try and find what these actual causes
could be. Any number of metaphysical things that they learn

(34:12):
about could actually be the causation, and whatever seems the
most likely to them for whatever reason is obviously what
they're going to pass on to me is what they
think happened. So anyway, she harvested this flower, she had
all sorts of crazy effects, and this went on for years.
And she's a high level magical practitioner like myself and

(34:34):
like other magical practitioners that I've worked on. She was like,
I've been trained to get rid of entities and demons
and blah, blah blah. So I'm going to just run
myself through all this work, ran herself through all this work,
and she was literally at a suicidal point just a
few years after this, where she contacted me and said, Fia,
I really need your help. Like I have done everything,

(34:55):
like I've driven iron spikes into this, i have iron
nails all over in my house. I'm doing horseshoes, I'm
doing this, I'm doing that, I'm performing these things. I
need you to find out what's going on. I found
out what was going on. It was a bad case
of telluric entities. And I asked her, I said, I
need you to just think for a minute about sometime

(35:15):
that you were in nature where you took something without
giving an offering of equivalent kind of payment or value
for that thing, and times where you didn't even ask permission.
And she immediately went to this rose. So I went
into my IDF software, did a custom question investigation, found out, yeah,
one hundred percent, that's it. She went out, made an

(35:38):
offering of tobacco to that plant and done literally that day,
that minute that she offered that tobacco, and stated her
her contrition for behaving in a way that was incongruent
with her own belief system actually that the telluric entities

(35:59):
governed over these things. She was like, I even believe
that stuff, and I just wasn't paying attention to it,
and I wasn't listening, and I wasn't walking my own talk.
And I said, they may have enacted this upon you
in a way that was disproportionate to the grievance, because
you know better. We don't know, but that was definitely

(36:21):
one of my ideas. But yeah, and I see this
all the time with clients, is that if they have
to lyric entity levels that you know, are showing that
they were aggrieved. I just asked them, think about a
time when you maybe did something in nature that was disrespectful,
whether that was breaking branches off of a tree that
maybe you shouldn't have, or just setting up camp or

(36:44):
trollopsing through a place without reverence and respect, or taking
something especially you know, if you go to say Yellowstone,
and you take some of that busalt or some of
the obsidian, there's a very good chance that unless you
asked and gave something of equivalent value, aside from federal

(37:05):
lawsing that you can't take shit from the federal parts.
There are repercussions to those types of behaviors and to
those types of actions, and so the best, in the
safest way is to assume that every area still has
to lyric entities that are perfectly intact, and to just
behave in a way that is respectful, and maybe even

(37:29):
if you don't know what's respectful, to simply ask for
guidance to keep you away from doing disrespectful things, and
just to always syr on site of caution. If you
want to take something, you know, make an offering of
some sort where it is actually a little bit of
a sacrifice on your part to give this thing. It
costs money, it takes time, it does whatever in order

(37:51):
for the things that are taken or used. And if
things are on your property, realize that you don't own
your property only in the law of man do you
own your property In the laws of nature there's a
much different system, and nothing can be owned. Everything is
only borrowed. And so can you borrow that thing? Did

(38:12):
you get permission to borrow that thing? And what is
the kind of contract for your use of that particular thing?
When does it need to go back? For instance, is
it like a library book or to stay with you?
And does it stay with your ancestors because you've paid
that debt or do you have to continually pay a
debt in order to use that thing? Right? Yeah, because

(38:35):
you know, these are just the types of questions that
people should ideally be asking themselves and considering in order
to keep themselves ideally safe, but also to show mutual
respect for nature and what it has to offer us.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
I'd love to get your thoughts on the most extreme
possibilities when it comes to interacting with to lyric entities
or otherwise. I'm sure sure you've heard missing four one
one stories people just going missing in national parks. I've
heard accounts of people that claim to be taken to
different realms and returned back to our reality miles from

(39:13):
where they disappeared, interacting with interdimensional beings while they were there,
being offered food, drinks, things of that nature. Have you
heard any stories about this and what is your understanding
of the most extreme possibilities of people going missing?

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah? Well, I've heard a lot about this. I have
studied David Palidi's work The Missing four to one one
Guide to a Cretics, and I have a colleague named
Michelle dev Reese who wrote her master's thesis on these
missing four to one one cases, and she did some
really interesting stuff. Now, she hired me as an IDF

(39:52):
technician so that she could do custom question investigations to
try and engage her suspicions or her hunt and just
see whether an external a third party source could either
validate or invalidate her hunches on these things. But she
came to the concept that she just calls all of
those things the predator. It's a predator archetype, but there's

(40:16):
multiple different sub archetypes underneath that. And yeah, she's got
some interesting things. So like some of them are like scientists,
and those would be the cases where a person disappears
but then they're returned. So it's just like we relate
that to phishing. That would be like a catch and release, right,
And our scientists do this to animals in the wild

(40:38):
all the time for tracking and scientific purposes, where we
may shoot a bear with a TRNK gun or something
and then go in tag it so that we can
see what its migration patterns are, you know, other things
like so that presumably also happens to us by other
interdimensional entities. Same thing to you know, where she talks

(41:01):
about the support type of entities where they're literally just
out there to capture the big buck for instance. You know,
they don't have any plan to eat this thing. They
don't have any They just want it as a trophy.
A sportsman archetype. They also have, you know, the feeding archetype.
This would be the type of hunter that says, hey,
in order for me to feed my family, I have

(41:23):
to stock up my freezer with two deer every year
at least that type of thing, right, So they can
hunt us for that purpose, for food stuffs. They can
hunt us for lots of different types of things, and
lots of different types of reasons and in ways that
I still don't fully understand, but I can relate too.
There are hunting seasons, and there are also licenses of

(41:48):
different forms that can be essentially administered. So a lot
of that data convolutes this conversation even more because to
lurc entities also have a history of sometimes taking people
to their realm as well, and we see this especially
anybody who's read any of the mythologies of Ireland and

(42:11):
the British Isles. You see that attiluiteg or the Dnima,
the dina she different types of what they would refer
to or what we would refer to in English. Now
as fairy like creatures can sometimes take us into their world,
and there are a lot of interesting repeating motifs that
happen as well, Like the fairy bride. The fairy bride

(42:34):
may actually come from her dimension and choose to live
here amongst men for a period of time, but they
almost always have some sort of contingency for their being here.
And so you know, I remember one particular story is, yes,
I will absolutely marry you, and I'll live in your world,
and i'll bear you children. But if you strike me

(42:55):
three times with say, any of the halter components or
any of the saddle components, or anything that we would
use while riding a horse, if you strike me three
times with these, then I have to go back to
my own world. And always by accident. These things are
never things that happen deliberately. They're by accident. This very

(43:17):
woman may get struck once or twice or three times
with these things, and then she just ups and disappears.
So we see different types of motifs like this happening.
Can we move in between dimensions? Absolutely? And does the
mind ultimately determine how we can navigate through dimensions? My

(43:40):
understanding of that is yes, and that I think that
that has a lot to do with electromagnetism. Now, of course,
you know, scientifically, electromagnetism has everything to do with gravity.
In fact, gravity is first of all, not only not
a constant, thank you. It's not only not a constant,
but it is something that is directly dependent upon electromagnetism

(44:04):
in order to keep it in place. What I'm saying
there and what I'm indicating scientifically is that is our
dimension as the third dimension of physical tangible stuff, defined
specifically by a particular minimum force of gravity that needs
to be there in order for us to sense the
physical things that are there. And if we are somehow

(44:27):
tossed out of that, either by altering a brain wavelength
to a significant enough degree or altering an entire area
of the brain like for instance, certain areas of the
brain operate at these ultra low frequencies, right, including the
ones that are necessary for keeping our circadian rhythms operating.
So these typically run anywhere between like six to eight

(44:48):
hertz for instance, these eight Hurtz frequencies. If those areas
of the brain start operating at ten to twelve herts
instead of eight herts, can that actually change the entire
perception of that individual's reality, thus rendering them in a
new dimension. Yeah, I think so. And there are definitely
enough cases like this, especially with near death experiences coma,

(45:12):
et cetera, where we can monitor those different brain wavelengths
and what's happening, and then the person might come out
of the coma or come out of the medically induced sleep,
or come out of the trance, or come out of
the fever or whatever it is that caused this emf
ahenomenally to happen in the first place. And are they
recounting wild things and having an experience as if they

(45:34):
were actually there? Yeah, that happens so frequently. So is
it that these beings are actually taking us into their
dimension or are we all sharing the same space so
to think about, but altering the vibrational frequency at which
we are perceiving. And I don't have the answers yet, Chris,

(45:57):
But to the best of my understand at present, the
mechanisms that I think that are most likely at play.
Are the latter that our brain wavelengths are being altered
enough by these entities or perhaps even by the location
that these entities are in. Especially, you know, things like
this go on very, very enormously at national parks like

(46:20):
Yellowstone and Tahoe and Tahoe maybe isn't necessarily a national park,
but you know other ones too, you know, Shasta, Mount Shasta,
all these other different types of places. Do those have
a long standing history of telluric entities, Yes, by native
legends that have persisted. Yeah, absolutely, do they also talk

(46:41):
about many other different types of interdimensional entities besides what
we'd refer to as telluric entities. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely they do.
And so are these the mechanisms that those different types
of entities are using in order to create the shift
in perception or a state of consciousness? It could totally

(47:03):
be and could there be a lot more to it,
And that's just one facet. Yeah, absolutely. I mean this
is an ultra deep rabbit hole. And the more you
go down, the more that you think, oh close to
getting an answer, then you'll read thirty more accounts that
will take you further off the trail and say, well,
maybe there's other different mechanisms of action as well, so
it's hard to say.

Speaker 1 (47:25):
That's so interesting. Would you consider Bigfoot and dog Man
to be in similar categories as to luric entities.

Speaker 3 (47:35):
Not to luric necessarily Bigfoot, I still have to rule
that one out as maybe being to luric, But it
displays more of the features of being an inter dimensional
entity than just a telluric entity. And the reason I
say that is that it can move. By most of

(47:57):
the cases that I've read, it can move it completely insane,
almost non conceivable speeds. Some cases have also seen it
stand in one place and then instantaneously stand somewhere else.
Some people have heard it use some sort of interesting language.
In fact, this was caught on film not too long ago,

(48:20):
where they caught these beings clearly having some sort of
communication back and forth between them. One of them sounds
slightly higher pitched and more like a female, the other
one sounds more like a male, and they're weird grunts
and groans kind of like what we would perceive like
cavemen speak to kind of be like yeah yeah, but

(48:43):
they're kind of thinking that maybe those were Sasquatch style beings.
So you know, it's hard for me to say are
they physical primarily, are they tied to the Earth or
to a particular geo magnetic location, or are they completely interdimensional?

(49:03):
And right now, again the jury is out on that one.
I can't give any particular type of answer. But for
other types of entities that are typically predatory, they don't
have the telluric entities signature. They're very clearly predatory. They're
very clearly trying to have some sort of effect on

(49:25):
the beings that they are after, and so they tend
to sit more in the interdimensional entity camp, meaning that
they did not necessarily originate with this planet or this location,
and are here for any number of different reasons, just
like a person could be in a location for any

(49:46):
number of different reasons. Did they travel there, did they
fall asleep and they just showed up there, did they
get deposited there by somebody or something. There's lots of
different types of ways of interacting with this, But yeah,
the nature tends to be a little bit more on
the interdimensional side of things, right.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Could we be mistaking what we understand is physical extraterrestrials
that we believe are coming from different planets as these
interdimensional beings. Maybe we're being deceived, maybe we just have
a misunderstanding of what they are. I just have trouble
with the physical extraterrestrials coming on tin cans to stick

(50:26):
things in our butts. But I'm very open to the possibility.
I'd love to get your thoughts on it.

Speaker 3 (50:33):
Well. This may be popular among some individuals and unpopular
among others, but my goal has never been to be popular.
My goal is always to try and be as correct
as possible right and based on the data I have
right now, I do not think that any sort of
what we might refer to as extraterrestrial entities that are

(50:55):
capable of performing space travel and other things, I don't
think that they're going to be the same types of
predatory beings that we oftentimes fear. Also, the mark of
extraterrestrial beings and the mark of governmental beings can be
there's a very fine line between those two things. What

(51:19):
is advanced human technology that is being tested and written
off as extraterrestrial versus what is actually extraterrestrial. There's an
extremely fine line there, and I don't know where the
line is or how to draw it necessarily yet, And
most other specialists would say the same thing, but I
do tend to sit more in the camp where I
agree with doctor Stephen Greer that most of the entities

(51:43):
that are being called extraterrestrial at this point are not extraterrestrial,
but a large portion of them are either interdimensional beings,
entities that cannot be seen but that are fully capable
of having an impact in the physical because of their
electromagnetic influence, or that their governmental beings, And that most

(52:05):
extraterrestrial beings authentically, if they do exist the way that
I hypothesize at present, that they're not responsible for hardly
any of the circumstances that people currently attribute to extraterrestrials.
So I agree with you, though one hundred percent, that

(52:26):
if I was a form of life that was capable
of traveling through the cosmos, I probably wouldn't be doing
it in in a glorified tin can. For one two,
I certainly would care less about sticking thermometers and probes
up people's asses. I'd care a whole lot more about
the caliber of their heart and their minds, and to

(52:48):
see if their evolution matched such a point where I
would no longer be seen as a threat, but perhaps
maybe as an ally or perhaps just as another interested
party to see what the hell is going on here?
So yeah, I don't know, and I don't have I
don't have the answers to those questions, but I have
some speculations.

Speaker 1 (53:08):
Right when you say governmental beings, would you say that
they could be chimeras something created by military industrial complex laboratory.

Speaker 3 (53:20):
Yeah, the expense of sounding completely nuts, I think that
that is entirely true. You know, we have certain ideas
about that, like things that have been released even talking
about like Montak project and lots of others. Where has
those programs happened allegedly? Yes, to the best of our understanding, Yes,

(53:41):
is it fully admitted? No? Is that a common go
to for all governmental agencies to deny, deny, deny, and
then to throw conspiracy on anything that they don't agree
with or don't want to fess up to. Yeah, I
mean that's that's classic textbook government case. So yeah, could
some of those beings be like chimera like entities? Yes?

(54:02):
And do we now know that we have been reverse
engineering spacecraft since at least the late forties and early fifties. Hell, yes,
we have seen all sorts of interesting things where allegedly
reverse engineering has gone on where we've been trying to
do other different types of things. Now I no longer
live there, but you know, I was born and raised

(54:22):
in Utah, and we have Skinwalker Ranch out there, and
anybody who goes to the south side of the Juenta
is whether you're right there near skin Walker or in
the mountains up above that area, you see some crazy
shit that you cannot explain and that should not be there.
And they're not astronomical phenomena in the case of comets, asteroids,

(54:45):
more common types of things. But they're seeing things that
are very clearly taking up airspace and moving in ways
that we think they should not be moving. To me,
extraterrestrial activity or is that more of testing activity that's
happening during the night. I don't know, but I tend

(55:07):
to lean more towards the latter.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
Before we get to the IDF clearing technology, I want
to talk a bit about what people understand as positive entities, angels,
things of this nature. Tell us a little bit about
your understanding of this and are they really positive in
a sense that they are attempting to help humanity or

(55:33):
have our best interest in mind in some way.

Speaker 3 (55:39):
So again, angels and that particular term originates with Judeo
Christian types of terminology, and again we don't have any
written or even legendary evidence of that happening until the
Christian era. In the Western world, there are in their

(56:00):
different traditions beings that are like angels or even winged beings,
sometimes even winged reptile beings that were very beneficial to
the individuals that they came into contact with. How do
we define and this is this is one thing for
me that's really important and for any level of scholasticism

(56:22):
around this issue, is how do we define a beneficial
impact from a negative impact? That is that's a huge
question because a lot of times, a lot of people's
experiences with these angelic beings. You know, you the more
commonly you think about an angel in the West is

(56:46):
only having a very benefic type of effect. But when
you read historically about the interactions that have happened, and
you also read about other experiences that people have had
with these types of entities, it's not all loves, lights, pixies,
and sprites. Usually that angel shows them something really horrific,
as what will happen if they don't alter the course

(57:10):
of their direction to in some way, shape or form,
in which case is that being really helping or is
it just showing what the causal results are going to
be If a new direction, how do we define is
that a beneficial experience? Now? What the person took away
from it? Was that beneficial? Yeah? But was it up
to the individual to make the decision to no longer

(57:33):
do that and that's what had the beneficial impact in
their life? Sure, so it's really hard for us to say.
But there are probably some entities that are exclusively beneficial,
But even ancestral entities aren't exclusively beneficial. A lot of
ancestral entities, especially ones that died without fully knowing that

(57:57):
they died so in some sort of you know, say
car crash from out accident. One minute they were alive,
next minute they were dead with a massive coronary or something.
These beings, unless they have certain types of ritual components
that are performed during a death ceremony, they tend to

(58:20):
hold on to family members who have very similar traits
to them, and they try and live out through that individual,
live their own karma out through that individual, which is
technically one of their descendants, and that is still a
type of possession. It will never help the individual that
died to actually move through their karma if they try

(58:41):
and possess another individual of their family to go through
those things, because it's a whole different soul. And the
same thing is true about various other different circumstances with
ambivalent ancestral entities as well, where they like you if
you practice their real religion that they had when they
were alive, they won't like you if you don't that

(59:04):
type of thing. Right, how much can you see eye
to eye with your ancestors? And I'll tell you, my
ancestors fifty four generations go had entirely different belief systems
than my ancestors three to five generations ago, right, entirely
different cosmology, worldview, beliefs, ways of interacting with neighbors, community,

(59:25):
the world, everything. It's a whole different thing. So ancestry
can kind of get a little convoluted there. But my
point in all of that is that even our ancestors
and our ancestral ancestral entities are not necessarily always beneficial,
But can they be beneficial, Like, for instance, if one
of your ancestors comes to you in a dream and says, hey,

(59:48):
you need to avoid doing this. I made that same mistake,
and here the results that happen for me. What do
you think is going to happen for you? And then
you decide to make a difference, that can be a
very beneficial thing. But was it the entity that had
the benefit or was it you, as an independent entity
of yourself espoused in a meat skeleton, that decided essentially

(01:00:12):
to make the difference. So are there beneficial entities out there?
The jury is still out on that one.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
For me.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
I don't necessarily know that that is true, although I
cannot deny many hundreds of user testimonials essentially saying that, hey,
I had an impact with this entity while under this
substance or doing this thing, and this being healed me
and I haven't had any problems since then. But I

(01:00:43):
don't also know what that entity had in it On
their end. Were they being paid to do that? Is
it their job to do that? Is? Were they just
fulfilling duty or were they actually expressing benevolence? That the
jury is out for me on that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:57):
You mentioned being under the effects of certain substances. I
know that certain substances can attract certain beings or intelligences
to be interested in you and maybe attach themselves to you.
Is that right?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
Yeah, Now, again that just comes down to electromagnetism. Though
anytime that you take substances that alter that are what
we would refer to as psychedelic or even psychotropic that
alters your brain chemistry. Brain chemistry is electrochemical, meaning that
it's half electromagnetic and that it's half chemistry driven. The

(01:01:38):
electromagnetism is what actually triggers the chemistry to begin working
in the right way in the first place. And even
if you get right down to it, even minerals, well
technically metals like calcium, potassium, magnesium, sodium, you know, iodie,
all of these they're all metals. How do they interact

(01:01:59):
with us on an electro magnetic level. Well, in order
for us to even use them properly, they have to
have the right valance, which is all about electromagnetic charge.
So these different types of entities, regardless of the sort,
they interact with us through these electromagnetic pathways essentially, and

(01:02:24):
they can alter alter the perceptions. With that being said,
with the preamble of the electromagnetism, these in esoteric philosophy.
What these different types of substances do is to bolster
and amplify our astral body. And what that literally means
in a more grounded modern terminology is that they are

(01:02:48):
altering the electromagnetic displacement of one or more areas of
the body. This could be in the piezo electric fashion network,
liquid crystaline matrix of the human body. It could also
be through the neurology or other things. And so these
different drugs they amplify everything. So if we take an

(01:03:12):
amplitude knob like on a on an amplifier, for instance,
like if we're playing electric guitar or bass or whatever else.
As we change the amplitude knob that is labeled volume
and we turn that up, that obviously is going to
increase the amplitude, not necessarily the frequency. It just increases

(01:03:34):
the amplitude of whatever frequency is being passed through that amp.
As an electromagnetic thing, these different types of drugs and
substances will do the exact same thing. Some of them
might only amp up say just the liver or just
the brain, or just the heart, or you know, just
the spleen or just this particular cell or whatever else.

(01:03:56):
But they drastically amplify these things. Now, whatever emotional resonance
is already set inside of that thing is the frequency
that it's going to be playing, and then you turn
up the volume. And once you turn up the volume,
now that can attract other things. Just like when you're
having a party at your house at maybe two in
the morning and the music is really loud, that's going

(01:04:20):
to attract the police. The same exact thing is going
to happen when you have these different interdimensional entities that
are on the lookout for these particular frequencies. When they
become loud enough, even from great distance, they can hear that,
they can see that, they can feel that, and then
they become directed towards that as a potential hospitable or

(01:04:44):
habitable situation.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
For last few minutes we have I like to share
with the audience all about your IDEF clearing technology, starting
with how you developed it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:58):
Well, I developed it out of necessity. So IDEF just
really stands for intrinsic data field. The concepts have existed
in multitudinous different languages and cultures long before the modern era,
but IDF really the way that we practice now was
kind of born out of the science of radionics over

(01:05:20):
one hundred years ago, and then eventually they came to
the concept that, you know, radionics doesn't work the way
that they thought, meaning that they thought that everything in
the body had a very particular what we call a
tuning rate, and these tuning rates can be accessed essentially
by divination. But then we use dials as well. And

(01:05:41):
these dials when you dial them to a certain thing,
and you're operating the stick pad, when your fingers stick
at a certain area, you stop turning the dial with
with your other hand. And different types of radionics instruments
may have one dial, two dials, three dials. There's some
with like twenty or more dials, okay, But the point
is that they constantly rub a pad with one hand

(01:06:04):
and then they tune a dial with another while holding
an intention in mind. Let's say, to eliminate an entity,
for instance, what is the tuning to help eliminate this
entity from this person's space. And first, they weren't thinking
about entities one hundred years ago. They'd already thrown the
baby out with the bathwater, like most of us in
the modern era, and they just decided that they were
trying to tune into physical things. So they would, you know,

(01:06:27):
take say a parasite for instance, and say what is
the tuning rate of this parasite, And they would run
one dial and it stops at maybe two, and then
they run their next dial and it stops at maybe
forty three, and then they run their next dial and
that stops at seven. Well, that now means like two
forty three seven is the dial rate tuning to get

(01:06:50):
rid of that particular parasite. That's kind of the way
that it started. And eventually they proved in court, even
due to a medical case, that that's not the way
that it worked. And so the entire theory of all
of these things in the body operating according to these
kind of obscure tuning rates went out the window, and
that got rid of the entire science of radionics the

(01:07:12):
way that they thought about it, because they thought that
these tunings were kind of like radio dials, and if
you tune in to just the right frequency, then you
get just the right effect. We now know that that's
not the way that they were working. What they were
actually doing in their construction and everything was transmitting an
electromagnetic frequency into a scalar wave. So we're taking one

(01:07:35):
wave form, making it transverse, and having it operate as
a scalar wave, which is really just an octave of
an electromagnetic wave, but instead of existing in the astral
plane or the electromagnetic frequency spectrum, it is now operating
in what we would refer to in occultism and esotericism

(01:07:55):
as the causal dimension. WI I don't have a very
grounded term for aside from the quantum realm. In terms
of our modern physics and modern understanding of things, the
causal is essentially what we'd refer to as the quanta
or the quantum dimension. So with that being said, yeah,

(01:08:18):
the whole technology got handed on to me in a
really weird way. That's a long story, so I'll say
that for another time. But in trying to help people
with various different psychological, physiological, and spiritual disorders that they
would come to me with, oftentimes I would find that
there were things that I could not impact through supplements

(01:08:41):
and through conventional Like let's say that they have a
state of psychosis, and we might go through all of
the physiological methods of addressing that psychosis. So I might
do some analysis on them. I might see that their
fornix has some issues. I might see that a couple
of genes are expressed in a weird way. I might

(01:09:01):
see that their got brain axis is entirely thrown off.
I might see all these different things we go through,
we fix all of those things. Everything is coming up
and showing fine on their analysis, but they still have
these symptoms. How do we address those? And so out
of necessity, I had to start picking up older pieces
of literature from individuals in the historical past that had

(01:09:24):
also addressed symptoms like these. And of course the main
resource that I go back to over and over and
over is Paracelsus, just because he had such a keen
and piercing intellect and inability to make enormous influence. And
he talks about the effects of entities and curses and
hexes and all sorts of other things as well, and
he talks about all of those, and he included those

(01:09:45):
in his system of spigeric medicine. And so I decided
that I would just kind of pick up the pieces
leave off from the trail from where he'd dropped the
breadcrumbs last, and just see if I could pick it up.
And eventually I started playing around with things and doing
immense amounts of investigation with intrinsic data field investigations to

(01:10:09):
try and see if I could pinpoint what the root causes.
And over and over in those cases, I kept finding
that people had these entities and I was like, wow, okay,
that's one thing. So then it reverts back to my
magical practices magical training to try and get rid of them.
There are plenty of clients from twenty two thousand and

(01:10:29):
nine even to two thousand and eight, two thousand and
nine timeframe until about twenty seventeen eighteen where I would
do ritual exorcism for a large number of individuals, and
they were definitely effective, but they were not that effective,
and people would still have some residual problems that if

(01:10:50):
they weren't addressed regularly, turned into the same big problem
that they had initially when they came to see me.
And so there were there were weird things like that,
and so I just kind of kept chipping away at it,
chipping away at it, chipping away at it, and then
trying to figure out ways, split testing ways in particular
that I'd be able to use either IDF tunings or

(01:11:10):
ritual exorcisms or magical works or whatever it is, in
order to be able to influence these things. And ultimately,
over a period of years and hundreds of IDF clients,
you know, wellness research clients that I was using IDF on,
I should say, we ended up realizing that entities are
best cleared exclusively with IDF. But there's a very particular

(01:11:32):
wording and a very particular way that I have to
go about that in order for it to work. If
I miss a single comma in the descriptions that I'm
creating for these tunings, or if I put an extra
space in there, I hit the space bar twice, or
if I do any of these other things, if I
misspell their name, If I do any of these things,
it doesn't work. It doesn't work at all, it doesn't

(01:11:54):
have any effect whatsoever. And so it was really in
some ways of fat that I came across ways that
did work, but that was only driven by thousands of
failures before that that I was not achieving the desired result.
And over probably about three to five years, the last

(01:12:15):
three to five years, I did so many of these
that I had a lot of split tests that I
was capable of running, and I would just put the
successes from each split test together and then eventually that
turned into an entire protocol. And after testing that on
dozens of people and all getting the exact same effects
and the exact same feedback, then I went to my

(01:12:38):
high level magical practitioner friends who are trained to get
rid of entities, and I said, hey, like myself, I've
been trained to do this. I've run these protocols on
myself for a long time. Then I did IDEF analysis
on myself, and I still have residual levels of entities.
They're non problematic, but there's still residual levels. I ran
this broadcast on myself and I got rid of them.

(01:12:59):
I would like to do the same for you at
no cost, to see if your experience is similar to mine,
and to see if your data is similar to mine.
And so we got you know, a good colleague of mine.
His name is Sean Podra O'Donoghue. He lives in Maine,
and he is a priest of two different traditions, including
one which is called the Faery tradition. Fder got him

(01:13:22):
to do the same thing. He's also trained to cast
entities out and other things. But told me that he
was having problems, and when I ran his analysis, it
showed high level of entities, and so I said, well,
if I can clear these out for you, then that'd
be great. I did his entire life change shortly thereafter,
and I mean he had some huge impacts from that
change that he reported. And I've had a couple of

(01:13:43):
other very high level practitioners who are I would considered
to be adepts or even adepts of the Adepts, who
ended up having the exact same experience that I did.
And so after performing all of that work, eventually it
took me about a year. So because I didn't want
to just be known as that guy. I mean, I

(01:14:03):
already do enough fringe things. I didn't really want to
be known as the guy who's also now branching into
demons and spells and curses and hexes and jinxes and
all these other things. But at a certain point I
had to make that service available because there's a massive,
not just a small there's a massive sociological uptick in

(01:14:25):
people who are reporting these types of things, and when
I test them, they have these types of issues, and
so we need to match our level of addressing these
issues with the amount of issues and the amount of
people that are having them. And so that's yeah, I
was born out in this set.

Speaker 1 (01:14:42):
That's awesome. Man. Now you said that there's a noticeable
uptick in people that are experiencing this. Any theories as
to why.

Speaker 3 (01:14:54):
Uh huh, Yeah, I think social media is a big one. People. Again,
maybe at the expense of sounding completely off my rocker,
which if you're still listening to me, then maybe you're
on the same you know, in the same boat. But
it's like this, every time you scroll, doesn't matter whether

(01:15:15):
you scroll like this or scroll like this, you know,
with the mouse or whatever, you are essentially stimulating a
ton of dopamine. Every time that you see something that
you like, it gives you a big dopamine response. Every
time that somebody likes something that you've posted, you see it,
you get a big dopamine response. You get these huge hits.
What's the difference between that and smoking tobacco for that

(01:15:38):
dopamine hit, Well, there really isn't. The brain doesn't know
how to differentiate.

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
Probably more like crack. But yeah, yeah, exactly, Yeah, you're
entirely right.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
The point is, if we draw that back to what
we already know about substances and how or why they
change the electromagnetic amplification rate particular emotions. Then you have
that now, I think that most people in modern age
feel defeated. I don't know anybody who would argue that
in the present age that most people feel defeated, that

(01:16:12):
they don't want to be living the life that they're living,
but there's not a sustainable alternative that they can actually
foresee or do within reason of their own capacity to
change their own situation, and so a lot of people
feel defeated. That feeling of defeat actually translates into the
emotion of despair. Despair is like the exact opposite of hope,

(01:16:33):
and it's a very low vibrational state to be in.
But when we're amplifying that with thousands of hits of
dopamine every day, that's going to draw in a lot
more entities. The other thing is is that there is
a phenomena of social media of TikTok.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
With We talked about that a little bit last time.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
Exactly, and you know, you see all these folks on
Instagram and TikTok whatever else doing very low level magical
practitioner shit, but getting other people into it. Without all
of the caveats for safety. And so there are a
lot of people that are utilizing their own inherent capacity

(01:17:18):
to perform magic, but doing it unsafely or in an
unwise way, which does the exact same thing that a
substance does. It is an amplifier to the astral body.
And so again, if there are lower states of emotional
resonance within that body, as you're opening up that amplitude
and increasing it, now these entities can hear that and

(01:17:39):
they come they come flocking. So I think that it
really all all comes back to the same root causes,
which is an un an unwise or possibly even an
unconscious amplification of the astral body in trying to meet

(01:17:59):
basic daily needs. So if somebody feels really shitty, the
scrolling sometimes help. Yeah, sure it does helps take your
mind off some things. But if the emotional resonance and
the emotional traumas and toxins that are sitting within that
individual are unresolved and you just turn up the volume, now,
you're just going to draw in a predator that is

(01:18:19):
capable of consuming that negative or harmful emotional resonance in
the same way that a parasite bacteria of fungi et
cetera would be driven to a toxic terrain that has
an actual, say heavy metal toxin, plastic dioxin, et cetera,
stored inside a tissue. It seems to me like they
operate on the exact same principles, just different layers of density.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
This is absolutely fascinating. We covered a ton of great
information today. We'll definitely be doing this again before I
let you go. For those that are interested in finding
out more about some of the things we talked about,
or they believe they may have entities, what is the
best thing that they should do?

Speaker 3 (01:19:04):
Well, if you think that you have entities afflicting you,
you can always go to my website. You can go
to Phoenix Aurelius dot org. Under the IDF tech header
we have on the far right hand side, there's an
option for eliminate ends, mahi ke and entities. And that's
a service that I offer. If you pay your money

(01:19:25):
and you get tested and you don't have entities or
curses or anything for me to clear. We only keep
fifty bucks of that money and we make the rest
of it as a refund to you. And fifty bucks
really just covers my time to put you in my system,
start to do your analysis all of those things. The
rest of the money is entirely refunded back to you.
So if you don't have a problem, I'm not just

(01:19:47):
going to take your money and leave you high and
dry there. If you do have a problem, then I'll
go ahead and clear it out. So if you suspect
or think that you have an entity, in my opinion,
given a all of the multitudinous client cases that I've seen,
that is going to be probably the most surefire way
to determine if that is indeed a problem and if

(01:20:10):
it needs to be cleared, and if so, then I
can clear it for you. If not, then you know
when you're just talking about entities or you know. If
you want to learn more, Claude Lucuteau has some excellent
resources on this. There are a number of other different
researchers in that same vein. They're usually more from a
scholastic historical perspective, but you should really look into those

(01:20:33):
sources and read more about them. Learn about their lore,
learn about their history, learn about maybe even the native
traditions in your area. If there are any native elders
that you have around that can tell you about any
of these things, or that would be willing to tell
you about any of these things, because chances are you
would tell a Native elder here's what I'm going through

(01:20:54):
and they would say, yeah, we know, and that you say, oh,
how do you know, they'll tell you a little bit.
For most white folks to earn the trust of native
elders to really come cleaning with a lot of the information,
that's a whole other ballgame. But still you have to

(01:21:15):
approach these things with the best information that you have
and the best investigative power that you have. So use
the resources that are around you and that you have
access to to do the very best digging that you
can do. And my biggest thing is don't get caught
into any system of belief, whether that's trainings that you've

(01:21:35):
had that say that you're going to get rid of
one percent of all of these entities or curses, or
whether that says you have to avoid all of these
things in order to not get the attention of these
harmful entities or other things. Belief systems are always a
trapped There is no belief system that is ultimately healthy

(01:21:56):
because there are confinements to it. A belief is not
necessary when there is data, and when there is definitive
proof of something, you wouldn't have to believe. So if
something is self evident, it doesn't require belief. Belief only
is necessary, and the mechanism for it is tricky too,

(01:22:16):
because you take an emotional sense of certainty and place
it over something that you know absolutely nothing about. That's
technically what a belief is, and so it's a hard
thing to break. So try to open up your belief
as much as possible. Just be open to having different
experiences and try to learn as much about your ecosystem

(01:22:41):
and entities, whatever else as much as your interest allows
you to, and go from there right on.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
Well, this is such great information. I highly recommend if
you do feel like you have something going on to
utilize this service. I did with extreme success myself, so
ausome some stuff, Phoenix. Thank you again. Like I said,
we'll definitely be doing this again in the future. And
until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk

(01:23:08):
again tomorrow. See y'all then,

All Episodes

Beings Beyond: Interdimensional, Telluric, Demons & Fae - Human Abduction | Phoenix Aurelius

Episode Transcript

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know

Dateline NBC

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

.css-15opob5{left:0;position:absolute;top:0.8rem;} All Episodes

.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Beings Beyond: Interdimensional, Telluric, Demons & Fae - Human Abduction | Phoenix Aurelius