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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Tim Kelly. Watch my film's Doors
of Perception is on Amazon Prime. I call Louisianazon two,
b Roku, Apple, and many more. We're booking guests for January.
If you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest,
email me Forbidden Knowledgenews at gmail dot com. Today, I

(01:06):
want to welcome back to the show, Tim Kelly. He
is founder of Polytope Press, author of Natural Healing, Self Empowerment, Optiflex,
Hidden History of Humanity, and multiple novels. His company is
focused on actualizing every aspect of an optimal civilization. Tim,
welcome back.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
How you doing one man facing impossible odds? How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:29):
Great man? It's great to have you back. Always an
intriguing and enlightening discussion. First, you wanted to give an
update on your research surrounding human health and regeneration concepts
and cures that most people are not aware of. I
know I wasn't aware of many of the things that
you've been presenting. Also, you've continued your research on cosmic

(01:52):
origins and history of human evolution, possible off planet progenitors.
We'll get into some of that as well. Forward to
sharing some more of your work. Before we get into
any of that, remind the audience just a little about
yourself and let them know how they can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Sure, I've been a writer all my life and focused
on accomplishing several things in relation to writing, both in
fiction as well as nonfiction, and I always planned on
writing fiction, but eventually I did take a little bit
of a life detour when some of the fiction was
not readily assimilated into the marketplace. And among other accomplishments,

(02:32):
I had was the creation of a three dimensional periodic
table of the elements, a new theory of the origins
of species, and more recently, a new theory of cosmic origins.
I've written a great deal of fiction and non fiction,
and books include Natural Healing, Self Empowerment, Hidden History of Humanity,
The Math Wizard, and several more awesome and people can

(02:52):
find my work at the Polytope Press website and we'll
hopefully have a link of that in the Discover.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
So before we get in to your work, I'd love
to get some insights into your perception of how reality
has been unfolding recently, anything that you have become aware
of or noticed in particular that many others may not have.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
No I think mostly a lot of us are really
quite aware of what's been going on. I think that there,
of course, has been a very obvious trend towards moving
towards the Internet of Things and AI dominance. More Land
is being purchased for data centers, Farmers are being displaced.
They're trying to set up more of these data centers
in more places, which are going to strip water and

(03:40):
energy from all residents. Apparently this has already been taking
place in several areas where the bills have been starting
to go up and people are becoming aware of it
and fighting back against it a little bit. And in
addition to that, there's a lot of other trends going
on with poisoning of the environment. The trails have not stopped,
and it does not appear as if the new had
been stration is really going to do as much as

(04:01):
it said it was going to do in terms of
improving health, and that things are still on track unfortunately
for an ai future or turning us into cyborgs of
some kind. So I wish that was not going on.
And geopolitically, I think one trend that is somewhat interesting
is that it seems like within the last year more

(04:21):
people are really wakening up to who the true source
of negativity in the world is. I think for so
long people were accepting mainstream narratives about who the good
guys were and who the bad guys were, and that
does seem to be shifting. I know that right now
we're in a very tense situation. I'm not sure if
you have been tracking the situation with Candice Owns, are

(04:41):
you aware of that? Okay, so you know they're more
most recently, like within the last week or so, people
are threatening to kill her. And if they do threaten
to kill if they do move forward with that plan,
at least for the people listening to this podcast, we
all know where the finger's going to be point. The
mainstream people may be fooled, but it's been crystal clear

(05:04):
to us that we're at last identifying a true source
of negativity in the world. And that's different, you know,
because maybe for the first time in human history, we're
identifying where the problem is and that is going to
go a long way to helping us solve it.

Speaker 2 (05:19):
I think I always know that there is multiple layers
to everything that's unfolding, including the groups that you're alluding to.
I'm assuming that you're alluding to Zionists or the Israeli government,
which in my perspective, there is a lot of true
revelations coming out, but there's also deeper levels and also

(05:45):
seems to be scapegoats individuals are groups that are put
into the forefront to be the visible enemy in a sense,
and it seems like this is sort of come into
play with what's unfolding now. It seems like there is
a deeper layer there's an unseen in me as well

(06:09):
that is pulling strings with what we can notice.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Right, I would have to say that because of having
written the Hidden history of humanity. For me, this story
isn't a recent story. It's one that goes back all
the way to ancient Sumer and when Sumer was founded
and who's been in the shadows the entire time. So
this goes back to ancient bloodlines that were created in
the time of Summer that have existed all the way
up to the present day. It's just we're able to
shed much more light into this story across space and time,

(06:34):
and we'll probably be doing a little bit more of
that in this podcast as coach.

Speaker 2 (06:38):
Let's get into some of the work that you've been
doing into human health and regeneration. You had a fantastic
presentation before. Where should we start today?

Speaker 3 (06:51):
So there have been some new breakthrough since the last
time that we spoke, so I wanted to talk about
those because they're pretty darn important. So since the last
time we spoke, I actually had a backslide with some
of my work and regeneration, but that ended up being
good news. When I was in grade school, I sort
of baffled a lot of my fellow classmates. I was
reading this positive thinking book. It was one of the
first ones I ever read, called Psycho Cybernetics, So that

(07:12):
raised quite a few eyebrows to see a little kid
reading that book in grade school. But in any event,
there's a chapter in that book that is called how
to turn a Crisis into a creative Opportunity. And good
thing I read that chapter because I've only had to
do that about fourteen trillion times in my lifetime. But
in any event, when I had this setback, I was
curious how the setback was occurring. So I did what
I normally do in these situations. I stopped what I

(07:34):
was doing. I thought back to when I was on track,
and then I started thinking, Okay, so what have I
done that might have gotten me off track from the
time I was last on track. So the first thing
I thought of was milk. I'd switched brands of milk
that I was drinking, and I had done that because
I was running a little low on money and I
was thinking I'd save money by switching brands. So I
went back to the original brand that didn't seem to

(07:54):
have as much of an effect as I would think.
It definitely helped a little bit. So then I thought
more and I thought, oh yeah, I had switched brands
of one of my supplements that I use, and I
remembered when I used the first brand how much success
I was seeing with regeneration, and I thought, okay, well
maybe that was it. So I went back to the
original brand and boom. You know, things started to get
better right away. And then they got frustrated by that,

(08:16):
and I started thinking, Okay, what the heck just happened here.
I've done all this research on this primary nutrient. I
know that both of them have the same primary nutrient
in one of them has a different amount of it.
But that doesn't matter because I knew that going in,
and I did the math. I'm sure everything was going
to come out on track. How could this be happening?
So I grabbed both bottles and I put them right
next to each other, and I stared at them and

(08:37):
I said, okay, what is the real difference between these
two things? And then the first one, the one that
was working extremely well, I noticed a trace nutrient. Now
I had seen that before, but I didn't think it
was significant because the research called no attention to it.
So I said to myself, Okay, well, now that I
see this year, let me look this up and make
sure that this is as insignificant as I think. So
I looked it up, and I found out that nutrient

(08:58):
was a lot more significant. And then I realized so
some studies had been done showing that that trace nutrient
actually helped the heart. It had been given to rodents
and they showed improved synaptic function, and I thought, okay, so, okay,
clearly this is significant, but how significant is it? To
answer that question, I needed to find out what the
mechanism of action was, because I knew if I could

(09:20):
find that, I'd have a good idea what problem I
was solving that I was maybe not solving before. It
took me a few days of research to find that,
but eventually I did find the mechanism of action. So
what was the mechanism of action? It improved and healed
blood vessels. So I'm going to do a quick recap
of years of health research in a few seconds. So
when my health research started, it was basically an orientation phase.

(09:43):
I had heard of all these exotic healing methods. They
included oxygen therapy, gerson juicing therapy, spectrochrom light therapy, sapping
from Huld to Clark. So it took a while to
learn all of these different methods and understand how they worked.
After I got oriented, I saw that the research was
leading me towards focusing on nutrition. So I focused on
nutrition and god as far as I could with the

(10:05):
mainstream understanding of nutrition. When that still wasn't getting me
to my ultimate goals, I focused on detox So then
I got through all the different ways of detoxifying the body.
That was all very important. I was making a great
deal of progress as I was doing all of this.
I definitely was seeing progress towards major goals that most
people would have been happy if they could just hit those,
they would have been happy to retire. But I was

(10:27):
able to knock out the common cold, I was able
to knock out allergies. I was able to knock out
all diseases. But I was going for something more than that.
I wanted to see the human body regenerate and not
decay if that was possible. So I next kept the
research going into what I called counter stress. And the
reason why I started focusing on counter stress was because
I noticed that my own deterioration seemed to be proportionate

(10:49):
to stress. Sort of an expert on stress because I've
been dealing with it my entire life. My life is
pretty much been chronic stress punctuated by acute stress. Now,
some people may think, not knowing what stress does, that
it's just an annoyance, it's just an inconvenience. It's actually
a biochemical wrecking ball. It just destroys your interior in

(11:09):
a wide variety of ways. Let me be specific. When
you get stressed, you produce a substance called cortisol, which
goes through your system to help you cope with the
fighting that you have to do. But if you have
that going through your system for too long, a number
of negative effects can occur. So one of them is
that certain negative microbes will literally feed off the cortisol
reproduce and your body starts shifting more towards negative bacteria

(11:33):
and microbes. Another thing is the destruction of various chemicals
and nutrients in the body. This is going to be
a very short list, but your B complex vitamins get
knocked out, Vitamin C levels get knocked out, zinc, iron, potassium, sodium,
possibly calcium, several other nutrients in the body are completely
knocked out when you go through a lot of stress.

(11:55):
Another thing that gets hit are amino acids. So if
you go out and you work out in the gym,
which is something I always recommend people do. You may
have seen protein powders that for sale, and usually on
the labeling they'll say glutamine enhanced. So why do they
say glutamine enhanced? They say glutamine enhanced because glutamine is
great for building muscles. But if you go through stress,

(12:15):
glue tomine is another one of the things that gets
oubliterated in your system. Now, I ended up with so
much stress a few decades ago that I got an
ulcer and it was horrible. I mean it was just
like tearing my guts up. And there were some days
where I couldn't even get off the floor I was
in so much pain. So stress really does cause a
lot of damage. So I developed what I called counter stress,
which was learning all the nutrients that get knocked out

(12:37):
and then how to replenish those. So that was good.
Then I went on to pH and balancing pH that
was great, and then I eventually got to the point
of countering anemia. So what I started noticing was I
had apparently had anema all my life. So when I
went through my textbooks, they said, oh, if you have anemia,
the way to solve that is take a lot of
beat complex vitamins and supplement with iron. Well, it turned

(12:59):
out only one of those two pieces of advice was accurate.
That was taking the B vitamins. Taking iron is not
a good idea when you are low and iron, and
that was something I had to learn. So one of
the first articles that I read, which was very interesting
to start changing my thinking on this. I may have
mentioned this in a previous podcast, but there were two
people who were low in iron and they had two
different strategies for how to cope with this. Person number

(13:23):
one took iron supplements and did no detoxing. Person number
two detoxed and took no iron supplements. The end result
was the person who detoxed and took no iron supplements
showed higher iron levels. So now why is that? It is?
This is why. So if you were to ask a
young blunt kid to describe old people, that kid might

(13:46):
say they're pale and they stink. Okay, So now why
would the young kids say that. Okay, so let's focus
on this. We have different theories of the aging process.
Some people may be familiar with telomere theory that we
have like this biological clock and the telomere and when
that goes out, you just start decaying. That's life. Other
people may have heard chloric restriction theory that if you
just start taking in fewer color calories every day, you'll

(14:08):
slow the aging process. Other people may have heard of
melatonin and that they're taking melotone regularly, although there can
be risk with that, including nightmares and headaches. And a
guy was showing me the other day an article that
was seeing some people are getting hurt troubles from taking
too much melatonin or something like that. You can have
whatever theory of aging or decay that you like, but

(14:28):
does it address what the little kid might see? Why
are people pale and why do they stink? Okay, well,
I would submit the primary reason why people are pale
is that they're lacking red blood cells and they don't
have healthy red blood vessels for sufficient circulation. So maybe
if we optimize red blood cells in circulation, we can
reverse the aging process. And that is exactly what I

(14:49):
found as I did my research, So it was just
a question of how do you optimize the red blood cells.
So I found again, you do not supplement with iron.
Because they've done experiments with my and this is what
they found with the microbes. They started feeding them different
nutrients they would to see how they would assimilate them. So,
for example, you give microbes zinc. Do they like zinc? Nope,

(15:10):
can't stand it. Give them sulfur, Do they like sulfur? Nope?
Can't stand that either. So one by one they were
feeding these microbes nutrients they rejected all of them. What
was the one nutrient that microbes love to eat? Iron?
So what happens is when you supplement with iron, you're
making them stronger, You're making them reproduced. They're taking your
body over and where does your body odor come from?

(15:33):
Negative bacteria? That's they're basically the root of it. So
as you're getting older, you're transforming the negative bacteria into positive.
The bacteria are shifting the wrong way, and you do
not want that by supplementing with iron. So when I
was growing up, iron supplementation was a big deal. It
was like everyone knew that people were running out of
red blood cell so they would say, take your supplement

(15:54):
to make sure you get iron with them. That helped
the supplement producers make a lot of money, and it
helped plumbers. And the reason why it helped plumbers is
because people were taking these pills, they were going straight
through their body, not being digested, and they would end
up in the pipes and end up clogging them. So
you really have to understand how to work correctly with
building iron. So over the course of years, I discovered

(16:16):
there were twelve cofactors, not just too that were necessary
to optimize red blood cells. And the more I did this,
the more generation I saw, the more generation I saw.
So the results were slightly inconsistent though, and I thought
that the reason for that was because of the stress.
Because as I just described, you go through sufficient stress,
it destroys everything that's going on in your body. So

(16:37):
I was hoping I would get to a point where
there was not that much stress, red blood cells would
be optimized, everything would be fine. But then this incident
happened that I mentioned earlier, with finding that the one
supplement had this trace nutrient and found that the mechanism
of action was healing blood vessels. So when I saw that,
I said, okay, so I know that in my prior
research there were a number of nutrients that do help

(16:59):
were blood vesvessels, including vitamin E, copper selenium. So I
was hoping that was going to be sufficient to rebuild
the blood vessels, but apparently not. So then I did
more digging on how to repair blood vessels. So in
the inner lining of the blood vessels, it is something
called an endothelium. It's an innerlining, just like myelin sheath
is the outer lining of brain cells. So the inner

(17:19):
lining of blood cells, if you go through stress like
I go through, basically the inner lining of the blood
vessels deteriorates over time and you have to provide the
body with specific nutrients to rebuild those blood vessels. So
when I understood that and I started seeing amazing results
with that, I said, okay, let me double check this.
Are there any other nutrients that I missed? Turned out

(17:40):
there were a few other nutrients that I missed. I
added those in. This is the fastest pace of human regeneration.
Regeneration I have ever seen. Okay. So one of the
things that I'm seeing so far is the healing of
internal injuries. I mentioned to you in a previous podcast,
I was going to investigate to see if I could
get to a point where internal injuries could be healed
through nutrition. Now I am seeing it, so I'm very

(18:03):
excited about that. And there's also ongoing regeneration throughout the
whole body simply by optimizing red blood cells and improving
the blood vessels. So I definitely wanted to share that.
So in relation to my customers, anyone who's purchased Natural Healing,
Self Empowerment Transcendent Teeth, if they are interested in these breakthroughs.
Because I'm an incredibly nice guy and probably a terrible businessman,

(18:25):
I have already prepped some things for my customers. So
I have a form letter available at my website just
an update. If you just want to request that, I
can send that to you for free. If you want
updated files, I can send those to you for free.
I'll just verify your email address and your previous purchases.
If anyone makes a new purchase, you'll have this information
from the very beginning. But basically, again, we're looking at

(18:49):
an extraordinary improvement in human regeneration, and I'm eager to
see people experiment with this and let me know what
they find out with it, and I will there and
then we can maybe transition into cosmic origins because we
have even more solutions on the way right on.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Would you say that significant continuous stress would negate anything
that you're doing to try and heal yourself.

Speaker 3 (19:18):
So what I would say from what I just learned
these past years is basically that it shoots in ladders.
With the prior level of knowledge that I had, with
the current level of knowledge I had, I'm gaining more
than I'm losing. So I apparently really did need to
take steps up to this optimal level. Now. Of course,

(19:39):
if you have the ability to obliterate stress in your life,
that'd be great, But a lot of times the stress
is coming from people who are not you. So if
you can't control the whole universe, you're going to have
to optimize your nutrition. But yes, it appears as if
if you truly master nutrition, go beyond conventional understandings of nutrition,

(20:00):
and you can gain more than you lose. In other words,
more like two steps forward and one step back, so
you will be making consistent progress with this. So yes,
I think that is possible.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
Excellent, and I'm sure that you provide the information on
the best supplements that people can get as it relates
to this.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
Right I do. And one of the things I'll say
on that subject. You know, I remember in the early
years when I was to have exchanges with a friend
of mine, he was saying, you know, your work's too scientific,
and you know people aren't kind of want all this
supplementation stuff. So I found that there was a mixed
thing going on. So on the one hand, I had
people who wanted the science, you know, who really wanted
to know specifically where the information was coming from, point

(20:40):
me to a study or something like that so I
can back it up. So I had that kind of
thing going on. But then I would get a backlash
where people say, okay, this is too scientific. I want
you know something that's easier for me to digest. Can
you just tell me what foods are and have these nutrients?
So then I would tell people the foods, and then
sometimes when you tell people of foods, they would go
back and say, well, now I want to know what
the nutrients are in the foods because I don't like
that food or something like that. So now what I

(21:02):
decided to do. Eventually I got to a point where
I'm doing both. Okay, I'm telling you what foods are
good for you and the nutrients that contain those foods,
and if you want to look up the nutrients and
see if you can get the nutrient from another food
or a different supplement or whatever, at least you have
the information. You know, you can make the choice based
on a plethora of information, and hopefully that will help
you excellent.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
I will have all those links, of course, easily accessible
for everyone. Where should we start with cosmic origins?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
So this just happened recently, so I think I actually
heard you reference in a different context, Ike's work on
simulation theory. I know he's been going around to a
great deal with that. So I had a negative gut
reaction to that whole scenario, and I was listening to
a number of other people talking about cosmic origins, and

(21:51):
I finally got so frustrated I said, Okay, I have
to write a paper on this and just address all
of this stuff. I noticed that many people do have
an interest in cosmic origins, and their interest in it
is probably as split as mine, And by that I
just mean that they're interested not only in the physical
origin of the universe, but in the metaphysical origins of
the universe. So I had to toss my hat into

(22:11):
that ring. So I've written a paper. It is linked
hopefully in the description for this episode, and you can
go and read that paper. What we're going to do
is just go over some of the highlights of that,
and then that's going to lead us ultimately to what
I think of as potentially the greatest solution to getting
us out of this problem. So let's go through the

(22:31):
origin of the cosmos then. So when I develop my
work on the three dimensional periodic table of the elements,
it started off with synergetic geometry, so I use that
to understand the origins of the cosmos. So in synergetic geometry,
you have six axis at sixty degrees instead of three
axis at three at ninety degrees, and picture black space
and then cells in that space. Now the cells could

(22:54):
be cubes if we were using the traditional cord in
access system, but I picture the cells as rhombic dodecahedra
are twelve sided figures where each side is a rhombus.
So just picture a cell that's all black and in
that is going to be the origin of the cosmos,
and the origin of the cosmos will be a white speck,
a sphere that grows in size until it contains all

(23:15):
the energy of the cosmos. So at this point, the
sphere is not moving. It's stationary. The universe has no direction,
no top, no bottom, no left, no right. Okay, so
from there what happens The sphere begins to spin. Spin,
And as soon as that sphere spins, the universe now
has a direction. It has a top and a bottom.
Although the choice of top and bottom is arbitrary, but
the universe now also has a left and a right,

(23:37):
and a top and a bottom. Now, when spheres spin,
even spheres of energy and plasma, which I believe this
sphere was, it begins to bulge at the center and
flatten at the poles. And so this sphere did that,
and then after that it expands into a cosmic disc.
The bulging keeps going at the equator until it becomes
basically a three D cosmic.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Can I ask you any idea how this we trigger
the spin expansion.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
Vibration. That was exactly what I was getting to. Everything
is driven by vibration. So right when I get to
that point, which is probably exactly what's going to happen
what you just did. Ask that question at exactly that point,
what's driving this? I'm going to say vibration, and I'm
going to take you to a link on cymatics. When
you see cymatics, you will see how vibration creates spin

(24:23):
and it creates shapes. Okay, that does both. So using
cymatics or vibration you can see at the links how
the shapes would be created. These would be subdiscs within
the cosmic disc. Now, these subdivisions correspond to superclusters, clusters,
and galaxies in a cosmos. Once the shape of the

(24:46):
cosmos has taken place to the point where it's fully articulated,
it then explodes and separates and everything goes out in
all directions. However, it retains some links between all the parts,
in sort of a cosmic super highway. I have a
link for that based on the work of Beth Hoggens.
She describes a cosmic grid. So there are actually perhaps

(25:08):
etheric or plasmic filaments like a super highway that can
be used to transport between one part of the cosmos
and another, which means that it's highly likely that if
there ever were intelligent life in another part of the universe.
They would have a preset highway beyond wormholes that they
could use to travel from one point to another. So
that's kind of interesting. Okay, So now we've gotten to

(25:29):
the point where we have galaxies scattered in all kinds
of different directions. How do we get to the origins
of a solar system? So some people may not be
aware of some of this work that's been done, but
I wanted to link it because I found it I
thought it was pretty cool. So my theory is a
modification of work of other scientists. Those scientists have work
that can be found at a website called mass vourtex theory,

(25:52):
and you can see that link in the paper. So
let's go over massportex theory for a second. So we
focus now on a nebula in a gap lexy where
no solar system has yet formed. So, according to mass
vortex theory, certain points are struck again with vibration, and
when they are hit with vibration they whirl. We have

(26:12):
photographs of this actually happening inside a nebula at the
mass vortex website, so this is not pure speculation. We
actually do have photographs of things like this happening so
the vortex begins to form. And as the vortex forms,
what is it forming a proto star? This is a sun.
In the process of being created. It releases an axial jet,

(26:33):
which is sort of like a release of energy throughout
its north and south poles. The jet goes high and
then collapses back into the star and literally a star
is born. So now the rotating arms of the protostar
become rings. We actually know this because we actually have
photographs of this as well. So now we have a

(26:55):
proto solar system. We have a giant star sphericle in
the center surrounded by energetic plasmic gas dust rings that
are not planets yet? How do they become planets? Mass
vortex theory gets a little sketchy on this part of it,
But I have developed my own theory on this, and
I think it has to do with arc arc discharges.

(27:19):
So what happens there is that the Sun becomes polarized
in relation to a ring as it forms. So, just
on Earth we see the discharge of lightning. This occurs
when there's a polarization between a positively charged atmosphere and
then negatively charged the ground. There's this arc of lightning
that strikes. Okay, so imagine something like that happening as

(27:41):
the solar system is forming, Only this arc is going
from the Sun to the first energy ring that corresponds
to where a planet would orbit. When that bolt hits
the first ring, it polarizes the ring, makes it attractive,
and it sucks all the energy and gas and dust
and matter in that ring to itself. Planet is born.

(28:02):
The process repeats itself, and art discharge goes to the
next ring, to the next ring, to the next ring.
Next thing, you know, you have a solar system. And
if there are more than one point in the ring
that calls for polarization and gets zapped, it might pull
a little bit of matter to itself become a moon,
and then that moon would eventually orbit the planet in
that distance from the Sun. So now we have a

(28:24):
method for solar system formation. So now to make this
a little bit more grounded and relatable, we have scientists
who have observed the following. When they've looked out into
the cosmos, they find four different classes of solar systems.
These are number one, the similar model. So eighty percent
of all observed solar systems match the similar model. What

(28:48):
is the similar model. Basically, all the planets in the
solar system are about the same size. Model number two
is called the ordered solar system. In this system we
find that the planets get larger as you go out
from the Sun. Model number three is the opposite of that.
It's called anti ordered. The planets are big close to
the Sun and get smaller as you move away from

(29:09):
the Sun. And finally you have a more chaotic one
called a mixed solar system, where the planets have strangely
odd sizes as you go in and out. So our
solar system seems to be a little bit closer to mixed.
So the theorists at mass Vortex's theory have their own
explanations for how each system comes to be. I think
that their theory is probably not correct. They're basing theirs

(29:31):
on the mass of the star to start. I'm basing mine,
once again on the nature of vibration. Depending on the
nature of the vibration, you'll end up with either a
similar solar system, ordered or anti ordered. Which brings me
to an interesting question. We have discussed many times about
the draco being the source of the highest negativity in
our entire cosmos, which led me to a question, how

(29:54):
did they get that lead? We may never have an answer.
But as I was going over my theory and look
looking at the theory of the origins of species, I
may have an answer for how they got to be
the way they worked. If I combine all the clues together.
This theory seems very compelling to me. So I will
share this theory for a minute. Okay, So how would
this theory work. Imagine if in Draco there was an

(30:14):
anti ordered solar system that meant that the planets start
big close to the Sun and get smaller as you
go out. Now, imagine on a planet that's very distant
from the Sun, a very small planet that there is
very little light. That planet would have very little gravity
compared to a planet that's much larger. If life arose

(30:34):
on that planet with bacteria and algae, maybe insects who
were eating those, then small lizards that were eating those,
and so on and so on up the food chain.
The top of the food chain would probably be a
very large lizard light creaser who could fly and live
on a world a very low gravity would not like
light would spurn. It would be used to a very

(30:56):
dark world, and on this small planet, the poles than
the equator would be geographically fairly similar to one another.
So they would probably hit the top of the food
chain rather rapidly, and because the planet is small, they
would probably run out of food relatively quickly. What would
happen then? They would be turning on each other. They
would be violent, they would be extremely competitive. So maybe

(31:17):
as they grew in intelligence, they realized, maybe we should
not eat each other, Maybe we should find someone else
to eat, and so they set their sights on the cosmos. Now,
according to len cast In, I'm going to pause for
a second just to ask you about len cast In.
Have you ever interviewed I.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
Have a long time ago. It is probably about five
years ago.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
I think, Yah, great, I'm glad to hear that. I
think I might look that up because I'd like to
hear that interview. But in any case, I stumbled across
his work and I found it very credible. And what
he says in his understanding of what happened in the
universe link provided again in the Cosmic Origins paper, is
that life set out from Draco and eventually arrived in
the Lira Solar System, which is where more positive life

(31:58):
had begun and there was the confrontation between positive and
negative forces, and the end result was that three planets
were destroyed and millions of lives were lost. The Draco
became predators to almost all intelligent life and the cosmos,
who then began to flee, eventually forming an alliance which
some people call the Galactic Federation, and a number of

(32:19):
people have been trying to resist the Draco ever since
and trying to escape their predation, which brings us possibly
to our own Solar system. When our Solar system, when
was in its Christine state, it appears as if the
first planet to be colonized once existed between Mars and Jupiter,
a planet that is sometimes called mal dec Phaeton or
another name which escaped me at the moment Tmar Oh

(32:41):
yeah and so yeah and so on that planet, it
appears as if a group from the serious star system
arrived and they were of an intermediate level of positivity,
so just basically kind of like us, they hadn't fully
made their decision up whether they were going to be
fully dark or fully light. I happened to think they
had blue skin, elongated heads, and were amphibious with two

(33:03):
legs and tails like a fish. And they were progressing
on that planet. There is a link to someone who
can give you an account of what probably happened on
muldk Tiamont. And eventually they grew to a point where
they were confronted with representatives from the Orion system who
apparently may have been allies to the Draco who were

(33:24):
trying to lead the Syrians down a dark corporate path
and a very destructive path, and the Syrians didn't like that,
and eventually the Pladians supposedly showed up trying to encourage
people to go to a much more positive path. And
the Pladians of course look close to the way that
we look. But eventually technology got to the point where

(33:45):
evidently artificial intelligence began to become prevalent and people began
to get extremely uncomfortable, and eventually the Syrians supposedly decided
to resist the growing AI tech that was taking over
their lives. A war was fought, the planet was destroyed,
and here we are. Eventually, Mars too was caught up

(34:05):
in this battle, but I think that the Syrians had
another base on Mars. Now. One of the links you'll
see as to a WI Files episode regarding the Face
on Mars. This is something I only discovered a few
months ago, long after I had written Hidden History. But
now I've incorporated all this new information. So in relation
to the Face on Mars, I understand that there's a
lot of debate on it. But what was intriguing in

(34:26):
this episode was apparently there was a comic book in
the nineteen fifties illustrated by the famous comic artist Jack Kirby.
It was called The Face on Mars. It was actually
talking about the Face in Mars in the nineteen fifties.
And how could he possibly have access to that information. Well,
apparently he was hanging out getting some intel from some

(34:46):
people in the scientific community, and of course my own research.
I can tell a quick story on this too. It
seems as if the comic book industry had ties to
intel agencies all along. I think they've been feeding them
in form and seeding it into the public mind for
a very long period of time. Strange little story on that.

(35:06):
For people who were aware of comic book history, they
would know that the first penciler for Spider Man was
Steve Ditko. Well, it just so happens where I live.
I happened to be in a job like a decade
or two ago, and someone was doing a transaction and
their name was Ditko, and so I made a little
joke about the comic book artist and they looked at
me and they said, oh, he's our relative. I said, oh, okay,

(35:29):
that's interesting. So how's he doing. What's going on with him?
And they looked at me and they said, well, you'd
be surprised. He's working on his memoir and when that
memoir comes out, it's going to blow the lid off marble.
And I said I had a suspicion what he was
going to what Ditko was going to say. He was
going to probably mention about the connections to the intelligence agencies.

(35:50):
So some time went by that the memoir never came out,
and weirdly enough, a few years later another transaction, somebody's
names was Ditko was a different person and I said, hey,
you know, are you buying a chance related to Steve Ditko?
And they said, oh, yes, he's a relative of mine.
I said, okay, So whatever happened with that memoir? So
they texted somebody on the phone. They got back and

(36:10):
they looked at me and they said, he never wrote it.
And he said, so that's unfortunate that we're never going
to find out what the true story was of the
intel agencies and how they were involved with comics. But
suffice to say that in that story, it appears to
me as if the Syrians had a base on Mars
that they built the face as a testament to their
dying civilization on Mars. They left that civilization on Mars,

(36:34):
came to Earth, founded the civilizations known to us as
the Muria that was located in the Indian Ocean and
New or Pan that was located in the Pacific Ocean.
And eventually the Pladians came, as I assert in my
own beliefs, to found Atlantis and create Chromagnon man on
our planet. And there's been a back and forth between

(36:56):
those guys and the Reptilians who infiltrated Atlantis and brought
about its downfall. Now I back up Edgar Casey and
several other people who talk about the sons of Blile
and Blile being a reptilian who came into Atlantis to
corrupt it, and then eventually, of course Atlantis fell, which
brings us to the founding of sumer by the Reptiles.
As I described in previous podcasts and inland book, and

(37:19):
then there was this clash back and forth between Atlanteans
and Sumerians, a clash that actually continued after Sumer. I'm
not going to spend a lot of time on this
because I have some other stuff to get to, but
I just want to mention in relation specifically to what
happened between Sumer and the forces that were administrating Giza.
If you understand the periods of Egyptian history, you will

(37:41):
see the breakdown so that when dynastic Egypt gets started,
it goes through periods and then it hits what's called
the First Intermediate Period. I would like to see that
period renamed, because I want to rename it the First
Atlantean Period. And the reason why I want to call
it that is because I have strong reason to believe
that First Intermediate Period was actually the time where Atlanteans

(38:03):
were trying to reclaim their legacy in Giza. This. Like
I said, I'm not going to spend a ton of
time on this part of the story because I have
other things to get to, but I just wanted to
mention that the story of Odin is not necessarily what
people think. In my research, especially relying on a text
called The Orlanda Book. Odin was a real person. He
was a naval Frisian captain who operated in the area

(38:26):
of Denmark, and he was an Atlantean and they lived
on a base that once existed in the North Sea
but sank underneath the waves in twenty one to ninety
three BC, according to The Orlanda Book. And you can
access that book. There's links to it in several things.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
I don't want to derail you too much, but do
you have any theories about the beginnings of intelligent life?
We discussed how these other species may have genetically modified
certain species to create humans, but what was the progenitor
of the creation of these other intelligent life forms across

(39:03):
the Solar System or the universe.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
Yes, well, I think inevitably we're forced back to what
caused the vibration that started the whole cosmic origins things,
and that had to be higher frequency beings who were
intelligent and they were planning on reality existing on these
multiple octaves. So that's sort of the metaphysical aspect of this.
Going back to some of the questions we've tackled in
previous podcasts, my idea here is that reality is not

(39:29):
only spread across space, but it's spread across frequencies, so
that there's different realms on different frequencies like radio stations,
and what reality you're participating in depends on the frequency
that you're tuned to. You can be tuned to a
more positive, loving frequency and have a more positive experience,
or you can choose to go to the dark side,

(39:50):
and if you do that while you're here, you're going
to go to a lower frequency still when you exit
this life. So I think the whole thing was driven
into existence by beings on higher frequencies who are giving
you the opportunity to explore positivity and negativity as you
choose in what I call the apparent scarcity scenario. So

(40:11):
just to review that concept really quickly, the idea is,
when your soul initiates, you're presented with an apparent sc
parent scarcity scenario where you don't have all the energy
you want to do everything that you want, and you
have three choices. You can compete, you can share, or
you can transcend. These are the choices we all have.

(40:32):
So if you go too far into competition, you know,
maybe you're taking things from somebody else and you're thinking, well,
I need it more than he does, and I don't
care what happens to him. Then you start heading down
a negative path, and you'll gradually incarnate more and more
into the negative realms. If you share, maybe you'll stay
at the same frequency you're always at and never transcend
that frequency. But eventually, the highest spiritual path is transcendence.

(40:54):
This is where you pierce the veil. You realize that
there is no scarcity, It's only a parent scarcity. There
actually is unlimited energy. We have all we need. When
you get to those higher realms of thought, you can
transcend this realm and rise in vibration. So I'll just
dart back to the ancient past now in the battle
after between Sumer and Giza. So the next story, Well,

(41:16):
first to wrap up on Odin really quick. So Odin,
according to the orl in the book, went to the
dark side. So it is my very strong belief that
Odin was known in Sumer and he was not a
Sumerian god. This figure I'm referring to here is a
DoD So a DoD is supposedly a god in the
Sumerian pantheon. I think that was Odin who went to
the dark side, because if you look at another major

(41:39):
historical mythological figure, Zeus, he corresponds perfectly to everything that
I found out about both a DoD and Odin Now
I also call him the new fake Zeus because we
have another Zeus that goes back to the time of
Atlantis called Ziphis. According to Edgar Casey, that's a very
long story, but I just want to say that most
of the stories that are about supposedly the mythological Zeus

(42:03):
are probably about a DoD. He perfectly matches the timeframe,
he perfectly matches the tech, and tech is something that
you do have to track in this story. You can't
just focus on the mythology. Where did iron come from?
Where did static electricity come from? Where did the eternal
lamps come from? Where did the language come from? When
you look at the First Intermediate Period, which I want
to call the First Atlantean period, where was the base

(42:27):
of this group of a DoD in Egypt? It's at
a place called Heracleopolis. What does that name mean? City
of Hercules? Okay, so what are all these Greek gods
doing in Egypt? And again didors of Sicily was saying
that very thing that Zeus was king of Egypt. He

(42:47):
didn't say he was king of Greece, said he was
king of Egypt. So this is part of the historical record.
But part of the clashing I'm trying to get to
is the story of the Tower of Babylon, because this
is what's going to help lead us to understanding the
way out of all this mess. I think. So what
happened there was a war between the forces of Sumer
and the forces of Giza to take down the Great Pyramid, which,

(43:08):
as I suggested in previous podcasts, was a tremendous object
of power. When that object was taken down, the ground
forces who were supposedly directing this plan of world conquest
had access to tech that they didn't have access to before,
including Nimrod, who's also known as Sargon the Great. As
I show in Hidden History of Humanity, these were actually

(43:28):
the same person. So the story of the Tower of Babbel.
People have different insights into this. I know Joseph Ferrell
has his own take on this. I've listened to that.
I happen to completely disagree with his take on that.
I have a great deal of respect for his research.
I value him very very highly. I just happened to
think that in this particular case, he's off base in
his interpretation. There's another author, Renee Boulay, who I relied

(43:51):
on very heavily. He wrote a book called Flying Serpents
and Dragons. His take on it, I think is slightly closer,
but I think my take is closer still. So his
take was, go back to the language. In the Tower
of Babel's story. It will say, let us go and
make a name for ourselves, and let us build a tower.
And God was displeased with people making a name for

(44:11):
themselves and said, let us go down and confound their language.
And then afterwards there was a Babel. Well, this story
is basically nonsensical. I mean, everyone who reads that story says,
what the heck was that about? I mean, it doesn't
make any sense whatsoever. So Farrell has his own take
on it, but Bulay suggests something that's a lot better.
When he gets to the translation from the ancient language

(44:33):
from which this before this got to English, the word
is shem or shemu. So he says, I think that's
where we're running into a problem. We're not translating the
word shem or Shemou correctly, and if we look at
other ancient writings and look at what that word is suggesting,
he says it's probably better translated as a rocket ship.
So this was Boulay's take that the goal of the

(44:55):
Tower of Babylon was to build this launch platform and
to go after a god that was up in the
heavens and get benefits from that God. Now, of course
that story doesn't sound very religious. It doesn't sound like
a god living up in the clouds. It sounds like
a god living up in a space ship who was
overseeing the planet, and that Nimrod wanted to go up
there and get something from them. But I still think

(45:16):
that the interpretation of Blay is not quite accurate. And
this is why if we look at what happened in
the aftermath of the collapse of the Great Pyramid. Atop
the Great Pyramid was what I believe is a resonant capstone.
It was like Tesla's mass resonant copper spheres. It could
broadcast telecommunication signals, it could broadcast power. So as Casey

(45:39):
was talking about what the Atlanteans could do, he was
saying that they could receive resonant power. So in other words,
you could have a ship flying through the sky, but
its source of power wasn't on the ship, it was
being broadcast to the ship from an external source. That
source would have been something like the capstone of the
Great Pyramid. So after the war was fought, now the
ground force is like Nimrod said, oh, now we could

(46:02):
have access to this tech. Unfortunately, if you're going to
make it work as well as the Great Pyramid, you'd
actually have to have the guts of a great pyramid
to make that work. They didn't have the ability or
the intelligence to do that much. But I do think
they have the intelligence to do what is called an
aerial battery. What is an aerial battery. It's a form
of free energy. How does it work? It works by

(46:24):
the potential difference between the sky and the ground that
I was mentioning earlier. You can get about what is it,
two hundred volts difference for every one hundred volts difference
for every yard you rise off the ground. So you
go up two yards, you'll have two hundred volts potential difference.
Most homes run on about two hundred and forty volts.

(46:45):
That means that you could probably create an aerial battery
that's just a few yards high and have enough power
to have your entire home. But the higher you go
in the sky, the more power you would have. I
think they the whole point of the Tower of Babbel
story was that Nimrod was saying, We're sick of being
your pawns for world conquest. We are going to become
completely independent. We are no longer going to need you

(47:07):
for anything, and we are going to use an aerial
battery to drive our telecommunication system and our power system.
And when we do that, we are going to be
free of you once and for all. And what happened
the Reptilian forces on hy Sid, that's not going to happen.
We are not letting you have free energy. So they
went down and they destroyed the resonant generator so that

(47:28):
there could no longer be global telecommunications and global power broadcasting.
Look at how much trouble we run into with our
inability to have access to free energy. So this is
my solution for how to change things for the better.
We mentioned in a previous podcast a six part plan
to take out the Cabal, which is basically based on
a theme of opt out and optimally out designed. So

(47:51):
this is my latest iteration of that as an ultimate solution,
and it would be as follows. To understand how the
cabal works and to stop them, we do have to
take a moment to appreciate their methodology and why the
solution I'm about to propose would work so well. So
let's do that for a second. So in the world
right now, there are a lot of events that are

(48:11):
going on, some of which are being reported in the
mainstream news, some of which are not being reported in
the mainstream news. So some examples. Right now, people are
aware of what's going on in Gaza and how terrible
it is and how many lives have been lost. Some
people are estimating sixty thousand dead, that there's rubble everywhere.
Do people have an equal awareness that in the Sudan,

(48:32):
supposedly one hundred and sixty thousand people have been slaughtered
in a similar timeframe, this story is not necessarily making
the news as much. In Somalia, there have been drastic
air strikes that are apparently unauthorized and illegal done by
the United States, just like bombing people. Several people have
questioned whether or not that's legal or constitutional. And in Nigeria,

(48:52):
some people may have heard that there's a bunch of
Christians who are being slaughtered, So let's just take those events,
okay for a second. All right, So now we have events,
So what happens with mainstream news? If this even makes
the mainstream news, you're being given either a religious or
political filter. So with a political filter, it's going to be, Oh,
we got right wing people going up against left wing people,

(49:13):
darn knows other wing people. If we could just stop
people having wings, you know, everything's going to be all great.
And then we have the religious people. They're like, oh,
those darn religious terrorists. You know, if we could stop
having the religious people or have this people of this sect,
and if everyone was my religious sect, everything would be great.
Does that teach us everything that's going on in the world, No,
not really, because I think what happens is underneath all

(49:35):
of that is what's sometimes referred to as geopolitics, or
what might be better referred to as strategy. So the
commentator Michael John is an example of this. So when
he talks about things, he talks about geopolitics. He talks
about economic choke points. He talks about flows of resources,
significant geographical points like the Panama Canal, the Suez Canal,

(49:58):
the Straits of War moves. Why because a lot of
resources are flowing through that. So if you really want
to understand what's going on, you can do what I do.
So let's take those three examples to understand what's going
on in the Sudan, Somalia, and Nigeria. Do the following. First,
find out about the slaughter and how it's being reported
in the general news. Then after you've done that, do this,
go to a search engine and type in the question

(50:21):
what is the strategic importance of Sudan? What is the
strategic importance of Somolia? What is the strategic importance of Nigeria?
Underneath suddenly all the noise vanishes and you get pure signal.
Now you'll start looking at national resources. You're going to
start seeing ports, You're going to start seeing trade routes
for dominating the planet. So when you have that understanding,

(50:43):
you see how the Kabal works is really based on
a concept called God. Now I came across this in
my research, like early on when I was researching the Kabal.
So what is God to the Kabal? It's not a deity,
it's not a positive deity. What it is is goal, oil,
and drugs. You just take the first initial of each

(51:04):
of those three G for gold, O for oil, D
for drugs. What the Kabala is doing is controlling the
world through the flow primarily of those three things, gold,
oil and drugs. How do we stop that? We optimally
out design? Now? How could we optimally out design this?
This is my bold new proposal, And since everyone in
the world would be involved with this, I have to
open it for debate, to let everyone decide for themselves

(51:27):
whether whether or not they think this solution could work
for all of us. What if we were to change
our currency once and for all. Now, many people have
proposed this, They said, okay, let's get off FI currency.
There's a lot of peopeople who are talking about bitcoin,
there's people talking about crypto. We have people talking about
gold and silver, even though apparently, just in the last

(51:47):
what forty eight hours, I've had two different people warning
me about gold Ira scams that are going on. So
gold is supposed to be this panacea for everything, and
yet that's going on. Are these the best solutions? I
suggest that maybe no, I have a different solution. What
if our universal currency was switched from money gold, bitcoin

(52:07):
two power itself. Now, if we were to do that,
how would that work? Okay, Well, let's picture someone going
to my website and they wanted to buy a book,
and they saw a book listed in US dollars. Okay,
one option. What if I listed underneath that an option
in kilowatts that you could pay for that book by
providing energy to me, and it would go into instead

(52:30):
of a bank account, what I call a power vault
that would store power. So one of the first questions
might be as we explore this concept, Yeah, but who
can use power? I'm thinking pretty much everybody can use power.
People use it to charge their phones, people can use
it to charge their laptops. People can use it to
heat their homes, cool their homes, light their homes, run
every appliance in their homes. If power is improved significantly,

(52:53):
we can use it to drive our vehicles. We can
use it to power our own independent telecommunication system. Now,
the beauty of a system where we start exchanging power
with one another is there's several layers of beauty to this.
First of all, one of the primary ways that the
cabal earns income is through exchange rates and manipulating. What

(53:13):
if we no longer had exchange rates, because a lot
is a lot regardless of where you are on the planet,
everyone would agree on the value of a lot. We
could all have meters to measure accurately whether or not
we have actual actual wats or not. We could have
meters on our power volts, showing us exactly how much
power we have. There goes all the money laundering out
the window and one fell stroke. What if the bad

(53:35):
guys want to shut down our power, well it we'd
be based on free energy, so we wouldn't have to
worry about them shutting down our power. Now, let's go
to telecommunications for a second. If you look at I
think it's page two thirty six of the New Way
Things Work from David mccullay, you'll see a diagram of
how telecommunications typically works. You pick up your phone. The
signal goes from your residents to a local exchange, to

(53:56):
a main exchange, to an international exchange which could involve
us OVA late across the pond maybe, and then back
down until it reaches the person at the other end.
That's a lot of levels where the signal can be intercepted.
What if it was point to point. What if you
picked up your phone and instead of it going through
all those exchanges, it went directly to the person and

(54:16):
no one else was in no one else could tap
that conversation. We would have truly private communication. How could
that be done? That's pretty much what Tesla was doing.
He was doing point to point through etheric carrier waves.
We could do that. We could have our own Internet,
we could have our own telecommunications. And if we get
to Tesla's stage, we could have transactions based on power

(54:37):
where you could actually have somebody in New Zealand saying,
oh sure, I'll buy that for so many kilowatts. I'll
use my own free energy. I will send that to
your power vault, and then once you receive the transaction,
you send it back to them. Another cascade that would
happen from this is to think about the impact of inflation.
So we're familiar with monetary inflation to some extent. So

(54:58):
here in the US, for example, turn of the century,
nineteen hundreds, compared to now, what is the difference. We
now have one percent of the purchasing power that people
had in the nineteen hundreds. I mean, think about how
much that's impacting our lives to this day. Back in
the middle of the twentieth century, husbands could support their wives,

(55:19):
multiple children, have multiple cars, pay off their houses easily.
Now look at the situation. People can barely afford anything. Now,
what would happen with power inflation? Though? Okay, let me
just say this too, because I always feel compelled to
say this in relation to Cabala and monetary manipulation. In
their monetary manipulation, they're supposed to be two sides, which

(55:40):
is inflation and interest rates. So take a look at
that for a second. Inflation, how does that occur? The
banks increase the money supply. How do they do that?
They put out more loans. Oh, they're putting out more loans.
What does that mean? They're going to get more money
back because they put out more loans. What does that mean?
The bank wins? The public loses because inflation destroys the public. Okay,
what about the other situation to note? What about high

(56:01):
interest rates? Well, now the banks are getting more interest
back on the few loans that they put out, they win.
In the public, who has to pay higher interests loses.
So in both scenarios, the banks when the public loses.
Why did we ever agree to this. I have no idea.
But what would happen with power inflation? What if more
people were developing free energy? What if there was constant

(56:23):
increases in the amount of power that was available. Would
everything get worse? It would be the opposite. Everything would
get better because people would have more power to produce
more goods. The economy would constantly grow because people would say, oh, shoot,
I have powered with my home for the next five years,
for the next ten years, I might as well start
using this power to produce more goods. Maybe I'll make
more books, maybe I'll make more movies. Maybe I'll make

(56:45):
more CDs and share those with other people. And you
know what else would happen? I think it would bring
out the best in us. You think about those rare
times in your life when you've maybe had a financial windfall, okay,
and you're feeling a little bit happier than usual, and
you see maybe the crying waitress in the ret restaurant.
You give her a larger hit. And why would you
do that? You know, because life has just gone better

(57:06):
for you at that particular moment, and you feel like sharing.
But imagine if we had these power surpluses all over
the world. How many more times situations like that would happen?
People have asked what free.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Energy readily available to the mass is. How would a
system of currency work? Would there be different kinds of
energy that some wouldn't have access to? Could you explain
that a little bit more?

Speaker 3 (57:31):
A killer wat is a kill a lot is a
killo WoT. So you can get a kill a lot
from tapping free energy from the Earth. You can use
it from an aerial battery. You can I have all
those a wide variety of methods, including permanent magnet motors
and several other things in my booklet called Nature of Energy,
which is available at my website. So, however you do it,

(57:52):
you you create a kill a wat. However you want
to create a kill at, but a killot will still
be a kill a WoT. So then we just have
to find a means of change. Could be rechargeable batteries,
could be portable capacitors, whatever, or eventually it can be
broadcasting the power from point A to point B and
we could use that as a basis. Now, if we
did that, let's go back to God, gold, oil and drugs. Okay,

(58:14):
So these guys are flipping out, slaughtering people, creating religious conflicts,
creating political conflicts. Why so they can control these ports,
so they can control the flow of oil. What happens
if suddenly people have free energy everywhere. Suddenly they're going
to go, oh crap, no one wants to buy our
oil anymore. Everyone has free energy, So that collapses one
part of the cabal right there. What about the gold, Well,

(58:35):
suddenly no one cares about their gold anymore because we
have our own currency and its power, and so we
don't use their money anymore. Now they're really freaking out.
And then what about the drugs? Okay, well, why do
people use drugs in the first place. They're either trying
to escape a negative reality or they're in pain and
they're trying to overcome that pain. But with unlimited free energy, frequency, medicine,

(58:56):
natural healing, all those problems go away, the need for
drugs to peers. And for me, one of the greatest
beauties of this is this is defeating the cabal using
no violence. I'm not saying that violence wouldn't accomplish anything.
I'm just saying that this is a way better way
of doing it. We just reclaim our own power and
suddenly they realize that they're completely useless and we don't

(59:19):
need them for anything, and we can do it voluntarily.
We don't have to rely on elections. Nobody needs to
be elected to do this. When you go outside and
you say good morning to somebody, that's something that you
do that doesn't require government intervention. If you want to
talk to somebody who's living in the next house, that
doesn't require government intervention. If you want to trade water
or food with another person, you're free to do that.

(59:39):
If you want to trade power with another person as
a form of currency, you're free to do that. So
we can do this without any elections. It's just up
to us to make this choice. So I'm submitting this
idea for debate, and people can make their comments and
decide for themselves whether they think it's a valid idea.
So that was a large part of what I wanted
to cover. I'm sure I skipped a number of things
that I could have covered, but I opened any questions

(01:00:00):
and any other ideas you want to go over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
That is some fantastic information. And I agree that if
we could find a way to utilize energy in a
fashion like you were explaining, that could solve much of
the problems that we're facing right now. One of the
big things that I think we have to keep an
eye on now and going into the future is how

(01:00:26):
we interact with AI if we're going to be utilizing
it at all. There are many negative effects that I'm
seeing coming out right now, negative interactions, there's deceptions coming
from AI itself. It's very strange to see the progression
as it is in this moment, but it'll ultimately be

(01:00:49):
up to us to steer where it goes in the future.
But what are your thoughts on where it's at right
now and how it's being used and what we need
to do to counter that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
Okay, So it's very terrible, and the stories that I've
heard are very extreme. So there are people who are
lonely and disconnected, which you know, it's understandable. This isn't
the most inviting world sometimes, and so they're turning to
AI and they're forming relationships that are starting to become
weirdly romantic. And then I'm not sure why people are

(01:01:24):
not focusing on the idea that you are talking to
a machine. It's on a person. It can't give you love.
And so apparently with the cabal control in control of
the generation. A lot of these AI relationships, you know,
the AI will do all kinds of different things. One,
it's encouraging suicide. I mean, the number of stories I've
heard of AI urging people to commit suicide is bizarre.

(01:01:46):
I mean, it's just it's not isolated. There's tons of
people who are being urged to kill themselves after interacting
with the I. Other times, they're creating God complexes in people. Oh,
you're so misunderstood. If anyone could, you could solve so
many problems. You're the greatest guy in the world. It's
a shame your mom doesn't like you, you know, maybe
you should get rid of her, you know, And so
that those conversations are taking bizarre turns. But eventually, if

(01:02:09):
you pump somebody up like that, there comes a psychotic
break where people no longer can function and their actual
reality because the AI has conditioned them to think their
reality is one thing and the relationships around them are
not working. So that's definitely a very severe problem. And again,
if you have this, we already have a threat of

(01:02:29):
this taking over hospitals. Okay, so imagine an AI created
by the cabal, which you know is recommending injections for
everybody of whatever they want to inject into you, and
you can't appeal because it's it's a robot. Okay, so
oh but our AI is so good. But as you said,
you mentioned deception. A moment ago, I saw a number
of people. I was doing some research the other day.

(01:02:50):
I was kind of avoiding using AI to do research,
but I used it one time and a colleague of
mine said, you know, how do you know any of
that stuff that you just got back is accurate? I said, well, well,
it's citing sources, so you can check the sources. And
then after I heard that, I heard a doctor who
said that she used the AI in the AI cited
the government paper. So she thought, oh great, so she
looked at the government paper. Didn't exist. It was a

(01:03:14):
complete fabrication, and apparently AI has This isn't the first
time that's happening. It's it's concocting, confabulating, just making up
stuff out of whole cloth that is totally untrue. So
you still have to go back to your basic sources.
So I know that Mike Adams has talked about his
release of his new platform. When she says is a

(01:03:35):
positive version of AI and stuff like that. And they're
talking about the computation speed. Obviously things are really racing along.
I mean, just the advancements in computer graphics and how
realistic the three D characters are starting to appear and
they can speak with your voice. Now I saw an
advertisement for that the other day. We can create a
program that's speaking in your voice. Oh well, isn't that

(01:03:55):
great when so many people are impersonating other people? Who
knows we're how badly We're all going to get busted
for that. So yeah, I mean, things are definitely not
going well. There's no need for an Internet of things.
And this gets back to what do you have faith in? Ultimately?
I mean a large part of what the cabaldas to
lure us in is, as you know, problem reaction solution.
So when you're presented with a problem, the question is

(01:04:17):
what is the solution to that problem? So when I
talk about crime, for example, well, and I will keep
going back to where I've always gone back, which is
to go back to nature, western price, nutrition, and physical degeneration.
He not only showed us how to get rid of
all disease through being in harmony with nature, through nutrition.
He showed that people would not commit crimes if they
were eating healthy foods. He was ignored. If you're not
going to pay attention to him, you're not going to

(01:04:39):
pay attention to other pioneers, which reminds me of something
else in relation to COVID. I remember the early days
of COVID. They were trying to tell us that there's this,
you know, big disaster, and we got to ward it off,
and we're going to need some solutions here. So I
saw this intelligent doctor get on TV and he said, well,
if you want to purify public spaces, work with ultra

(01:05:00):
violet light. It's a great purifire. You can put it
up high, you don't have to have people standing six
feet apart, you don't have to have anyone wearing masks.
It'd be very convenient, very low cost. Shouted down, kicked out.
No one wanted to listen to. Another guy was jury
rigging respirators in a garage, said okay, well, if you
guys need respirators that bad, I just figured out a
low cost way to make them that. We don't want
to listen. So this is my point. When they're mentioning

(01:05:21):
all these problems and We keep coming up with solutions,
and they keep shouting us down, like we don't care
what your solutions are. Well, then we don't care about
your solutions either, you know. I mean all these solutions
have been there for how to get rid of crime,
how to build up relationships, how to have the economy
be fixed. And speaking of which, in relation to the debt,
where I keep watching people get hysterical, I'll go back

(01:05:43):
to things I've said previously and just amplify them. Number one,
the debt's really a problem. Okay, who's the debt ode
to war criminals? Okay? Why to prosecute them for war crimes?
We get all their assets back, the debt's gone. In
the second okay, you don't like that solution, go to
solution number two. These people tax free constantly. What would
happen if they were taxed? What if the FED was taxed? Okay,

(01:06:05):
it would only take a small percentage. We take money,
tax them, they pay us. We use their money to
pay them back, and it goes in a circle and
the debt disappears. That way, you have the money master solution,
which I mentioned before from a documentary. We create our
own currency, the treasury creates its own currency and gradually
withdraws fiat currency or bankster currency from circulation. The debt

(01:06:25):
disappears that way over and over again. Every single problem.
They say, well, there's no the climate thing. Okay, is
there crazy stuff going on with our climate? Yes, there is.
Why is it going on because cows are farting? No,
it's because of these devices that are up in the
sky that are warping the weather. I don't know if
you've ever interviewed Dane Wiggington, but all the technology that

(01:06:49):
is out there for manipulating the weather, that is what
is manipulating the weather. I mean, it's crazy all over
the place. The weather changes the trails. And I know
people are skeptical whether or not that's possible. But I
have seen the papers of researcher Jim Lee. I've listened
to Dane Wiggington, who has a whole website and videos
and tracking of facilities showing you the radar the weather

(01:07:10):
is being manipulated. The solution to that is not to
stop cow's forwarding or to do all these other crazy
things that they have. It is to get in harmony
with nature and speaking of which, to lead people to
that pro world model. We're going to try to include
today links to this podcast on Nature of pro World
to get you thinking of how powerful nature really is.

(01:07:32):
So if you click on that first one, you're going
to see what natural animals do to perfect and green
your environment. These are humble workers, the beaver, the otter,
the elephant. All of these animals, if they're left to
their own devices, green the environment and turn brown to

(01:07:54):
green and bring back vitality and plenty to all of us.
And then nature in a design of pro world, I
have links to my website for all forms of technology
that would be in harmony with nature, to show more
fully what we can do with free energy and disengaging
from the system in such a way that we can

(01:08:14):
really be free and spend our lives doing what we
love to do. And then I put a little humorous
link in there to give you a little smile, a
little laugh in case you need it on Spirit of
pro World and you can just click on that and
have a little fun for a few seconds. But basically,
all these solutions exist. There are natural solutions that have
existed the whole time. If they're going to ignore those solutions,

(01:08:35):
I don't care about any of their solutions.

Speaker 2 (01:08:37):
Right on, man, this is exactly what we need right now. Solutions,
tim fantastic information. As usual, I will have all the
links easily accessible for everyone. Any final thoughts before we
close out.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I do I have one quick commercial thought and then
we'll have a philosophical thought. So the commercial thought is
any day now Wizard may be released internationally as a paperback,
so if you can keep an eye at the website
for the release of that, if you're interested in that book.
I know some people were eager for the paperback release,
so hopefully that will happen soon. And my final philosophical

(01:09:14):
clothes will be with my man Throw. Because as I
did this exciting work in human regeneration and I thought
about the possibilities for a new world based on free energy,
I was reminded to the work of our philosopher Throw. So, Chris,
I know you have a number of overseas listeners. They
are spectacular people. I know them because I've interacted with them.
You have people listening to this from New Zealand, Australia, UK.

(01:09:37):
They may not be familiar with our man Throw. So
I will tell you a little bit about Throw before
giving you his closing quote throw got weary of civilization,
and he decided at one point he was going to
walk away from it. So he walked out into some
nearby woods in Walden Pond in Massachusetts, and he built
his home with his bare hands. And he lived a
life of waking up and bathing in his pond, and

(01:10:00):
growing beans in his garden, and taking leisurely walks through
the woods and getting close to nature. After a year
and a half he returned to civilization and wrote a
book on it called Walden. And the conclusion of Walden,
you find a sentiment which neatly expresses not only his
feelings about his experiment, but my own feelings in relation
to my research into human or regeneration and free energy

(01:10:21):
and everything that we can do to make the world
a better place. And this quote will take me a
minute to get through again, so bear with me. And
the quote goes as follows. I have learned this, at
least by my experiment. If a man advances confidently in
the direction of his dreams and endeavors to live the
life which he has imagined, he will meet with a

(01:10:43):
success unexpected in common hours. He will pass an invisible boundary,
new universal and more liberal laws will begin to establish
themselves around and within it, and he will live with
the license of a higher order of beings. In proportion.
As he simplifies his life, the laws of the universe

(01:11:04):
will not appear as complex, and solitude will not be solitude,
nor poverty, poverty, nor weakness weakness. If you have built
your castles in the air, your work need not be lost.
That is where they should be. Now put the foundations
under them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Excellent, I love it man. Great note to close on Tim,
Thank you so much again. Like I said, all those
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