Conflict REVOLUTION - Map of Human Consciousness - Compassion Defined | Barbara With - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
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where we feature some of your favorite content creators and podcasts. Today,
I want to welcome Barbara with She is an international
peace activist, award winning author and publisher, psychic channel, composer, performer,

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and co founder of Conflict Resolution. Barbara Welcome. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
Good? I'm good, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Thanks for having me much for coming on today. We're
going to discuss your work with Conflict Resolution. This offers
a unique approach to resolving inner conflicts as a pathway
to personal and even global peace. This was actually inspired
by channeling Albert Einstein. I'm really looking forward to learning

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more about your experiences and what brought you to this.
There's a lot to get to, but this is your
first time on. Before we get to any of that,
tell us a little bit about yourself and let the
audience know how they can also find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Well.

Speaker 4 (02:13):
I am many things. I started out as a composer
and a performer. I eventually became a psychic channel and
started doing this absolutely mind boggling work that led me
to channeling Albert Einstein. And I'm at Barbara withth dot
com where you can see everything that I've got going

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on over there.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
So and it's conflict Revolution, conflict.

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Just to be clear, revolution awesome. Well, Barbara, tell us
how this all started for you, How you became aware
that you had these abilities and you were able to channel.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
When I was very young, I was totally self taught
in music, so I tried to teach myself piano when
I was four or five, and singing and writing music
when I was twelve or thirteen, and in high school,
I actually started getting readings from my friend's mom.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
So it wasn't like I was.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Looking for a psychic. It's like he was saying, you
got to come and see what my mom does. So
that's how I got introduced to channeling. And then so
when I started spontaneously automatic write, I think it was
nineteen eighty seven, I kind of knew what it was.
I knew what channeling was and had been exposed to it,

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but I was still very surprised it was coming out
of me. And that was kind of the origins of
that of that path. How it moved.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
From singing and songwriting, which was sort of channeling, and
then into the next direction with that gift I called
my intuitive art.

Speaker 2 (03:53):
Were you aware from the start of what you were
channeling or who you were channeling at as it was
happening or was it just information coming through?

Speaker 4 (04:05):
It started out just information, and my mentor she was
always just an antenna, so there wasn't you weren't channeling anybody.
But when I did the automatic writing spontaneously, I did
ask who are you?

Speaker 3 (04:20):
And the answer was sound.

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Interesting And at the time I was okay with that
because I'd been going into the nothing and pulling out
songs that I'd been writing and it kind of made
sense to me.

Speaker 2 (04:33):
So how did that evolve and eventually how did you
make contact with Albert Einstein?

Speaker 4 (04:42):
Well, when I started to know I could channel, I
started doing it for friends and on a limited basis
for referrals, and then I got it this idea that
I wanted to see what this channeling, these voices of
we they called themselves would say to a group. I
was really curious because clients would come and go, but

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they'd never really talk about what was said in their readings.
And long story short, I pulled together a group. What
we came together, Kim and Teresa and I would call
ourselves the Psychic Sorority, and we started holding these groups,
recording the sessions, transcribing them, and then studying what was

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being said, And in those groups, Kim and Curisa asked,
who are you and they said, you can call us angels.
And I was very skeptical of that even but we
decided that these angels were telling us such amazing things
that were really changing our lives so profoundly that we

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were okay with that. And what the angel said they
were here to do was they had this theory about
how humans could resolve conflict first within their own energy
field that would then naturally manifest more peaceful outcomes. And
they needed real humans to test their theory, and that

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was us. And so we took their information and we
applied them to actual conflicts we had with each other,
and conflict revolution was born from there.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Now, did you test these intelligences in any other way
to try and confirm identity. Some people are heavily skeptical
about entities that come through as channeled information. Many believe
that it is trickster spirits that are trying to deceive us.

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I always look at it as if the information is
truly beneficial for someone, if it's actually helping someone in
their lives and has no harm come to that person,
I think that the information can probably be trusted and
it's most like a beneficial intelligence. But did you in
the group you were with, do anything else to test

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the spirit to make sure that this was benevolent?

Speaker 4 (07:13):
You know, we didn't, and I think because of what
you said that we had a lot of conversation about it,
about the pros and the cons and what if this
isn't you know, something that really ultimately wants to hurt
us or it's not really angels. But ultimately what we

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got down to was what you said was that the
information they were giving us was changing all of our
lives so much for the better. It was kind of
mind boggling, and we were drawn to it because of
that sort of regenerative nature of it. And as it
turned out now all these many that was nineteen ninety three,

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so all these years later, it has indeed turned out
to be miraculous and beneficient.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Have you ever come across any intelligence that you thought
may not have had your best interest in mind? Or
would you say it's more along the lines of these
beings match whatever frequency you're putting out there, So if
you're vibrating at a higher rate, if you have good intentions,

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you're not really going to attract the negative entities, whereas
if you're in a negative state, maybe it's easier for
them to come through that way. What are your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
I think that is very accurate. I think that a
lot of it depends on the integrity of your own intention,
the channeler's intention. And I've just been recently reviewing my
entire life as to why did I become this person
that eventually than channel Einstein, Why was I trusted or

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how did I attract this kind of high level information?
And I can say that from the time I was
very young, I was very protective of my voice of integrity.
You know, I was a writer. I wanted to be
a rock star. I was a composer. But when I
was faced with an opportunity to sort of leave behind

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what I thought I wanted to write, and I had
a chance to be produced by Stevie Nicks at one
point in the seventies late seventies, and I didn't feel
like she aligned with what was important to me, and
so I turned that down and ended up, of course
getting fired by my agent.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Who of course wanted me to go on and be
a rock star.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
But I think it was those kinds of experiences that
tested my own integrity. Was I going to stay true
to the information and to being this high level and
wanting to have it be beneficial to the world, not
just be some thing that I could do that I
could brag about that I did. And I also think

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the reason there three of us was because we sort
of kept that in check. In fact, Kim came from
a very conservative, non spiritual background and would never have
gone to a psychic except she was in crisis at
one point and got pulled into this. So she was

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really a good barometer for keeping us grounded in practicalities
and in our integrity.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
So when did you first channel Albert Einstein? How did
that happen?

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Well, we published our book Diaries of a Psychic Sorority
in nineteen ninety seven, and a year later my literary
agent called and said she had gotten a call from
this metaphysical tabloid in London that was looking for an
interview with Princess Diana on the one year of her death.
And that was another step. If you're talking about skepticism,

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and oh boy, what is this? And I took a
lot of time to kind of think it over and
consider is this just some sort of you know, parlor
game or it's something that really wasn't going to benefit anybody.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
But I thought, and how do you do that?

Speaker 4 (11:30):
How do you just find a soul in after a
life and ask them for an interview?

Speaker 3 (11:37):
So I just thought, well, let's do it.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
I imagined I was talking to her, and I sat
down and I channeled by typing, so I wasn't speaking.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
I was typing, and I typed the question.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
So apparently I channeled the question and the answers, and
then I printed it off and when I read it,
my whole body responded. I got chills and I cried,
and I could hear her voice, and I still didn't
know if it was her. But the tabloid actually flew
me out to New York and interviewed me for five hours,

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and they didn't want the interview, and so my agent said, well,
maybe there's more famous dead people, and we made this
long list and I'd go to him.

Speaker 3 (12:23):
I mean, I mean, what would you do?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
You know?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
You think you can, you can? Who would you want
to talk to? And not everybody on the list in
my imagination wanted to speak. But we got to John F.
Kennedy and he told us that this wasn't our idea
that they were this group of souls that had already
gathered in afterlife and they were here to help us

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with world peace. And they would tell us who was
coming up next, and that's when they said Albert Einstein.
And he wasn't even on our list. And so when
I went to channel Albert Einstein, I did it through
my voice.

Speaker 3 (13:04):
So what I do is I close my eyes and
I kind.

Speaker 4 (13:06):
Of get out of the way, and then I imagine
I see Einstein there, And when I started to speak,
it was the voice of every reading I'd ever given.
It was the voice of the angels, it was the
voice of sound, and it hit me so deeply in
my body and intellectually. Honestly, Chris, it took me several

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years to come to grips with that, even you know what,
because it's so crazy. And then it's so like you said,
you know, is this really Einstein? Just some spirit masqueradings Einstein?

Speaker 3 (13:45):
And ultimately I thought, I have never.

Speaker 4 (13:52):
Been let down by whoever these voices are, so I'm
just gonna.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Go forward with this.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
And that entire experience turned out to be a book
called Party of Twelve The Afterlife interviews.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
But then that led to me in two.

Speaker 4 (14:09):
Thousand and five, going, hey, let's just do a little
book for Einstein. It's the one hundred year anniversary of
equals MC squared.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
Let's just see what he has to say.

Speaker 4 (14:19):
So I channeled several sessions and then I sat down
that winter to edit and came, Oh, was shocking to
me because first of all, but he delivered a unified
field theory, which is something that he didn't do in

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real life. And then he had this what he called
a map of human consciousness. And then he gave us
what he said was a scientific, quantifiable definition of compassion
with like a capital C as the fifth fundamental force
of the universe, the intelligence that uses the other four
or fundamental forces to impel the creation of the physical

(15:03):
world one step at a time. And that was another
moment in my life where I had to just trust
because I was so skeptical on thinking, you know, I'm
not a scientist, and I don't know if this unified

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field theory even makes any sense to people who are
really scientists. But I trusted and I stepped forward, and
that book became imagining einstein essays on m theory, World peace,
and the science of compassion, and that since then, there's

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been so much corroboration that that information was indeed Einstein
and indeed a very viable unified field theory.

Speaker 2 (15:53):
Interesting. Well, let's go over some of that. First of all,
you said there was some corroboration that this was actually
Einstein giving the information.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
What was that, Well, it was incremental.

Speaker 4 (16:12):
So when Imagining Einstein came out, I had an event
that my agents had booked me into that was a
It was called a metaphysical meetup, and I thought it
was going to be, you know, woo woo and kind
of outer space stuff. No, these were amateur physicists, amateur
chemists who were speculating actual scientific theories, and I was

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incredibly intimidated before I got on stage, thinking oh my god.
So I got on stage and I kind of had
this attitude like, Okay, you know, I'm not a scientist.
I talked to dead people, and I've been talking to Einstein,
and I'm not here to convince you that it's him,
but tell me what you think about what he said.

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And then I presented the whole thing in the unified
field and the map of human consciousness and the scientific
definition of compassion. And one of the really profound and
kind of scary things that he also said was that
the worst of everything is the center of the planet

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and it's a black hole.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
It operates like a black hole. And that was so
far out to me.

Speaker 4 (17:30):
But when I presented this to these amateur scientists, they
lost their minds. They were like, wait a minute, You've
taken the zero point gravity theory and you've married it
with the blah blah blah theory, and then you've put
in some of the blah blah blah theory right right right.
And I was like, I don't know, did I, because
that's what I'm trying to find. So that was the

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beginning of a series of instances and then the culminating
with just spoke at a conference in July and Barcelona,
the Science of Consciousness Conference, which is the scientist the
actual scientists who the leading consciousness investigating scientists, and I

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got to present my unified field theory and I saw them,
not because I presented it to them, but when I
saw their presentations, Yeah, black hole, center of the Earth,
zero point gravity. So many things that have been in
my presentation for twenty years interesting came out Yeah, it

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was just mind boggling, kind of drew a whole big
section of my life to a close because I just thought, Okay.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, I know there's a lot to get to in
some of these theories, but we'll cover as much as
we can. Starting with the scientific definition of compassion. What
is this?

Speaker 4 (19:00):
Einstein says that compassion is Basically he said, all those
many years ago, it was the fifth fundamental force, but
I have since amended it to be the first fundamental force.
And it's the intelligence field that he says, actually uses

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these four fundamental forces gravity, electromagnetics, strong nuclear force, weak
nuclear force to impel the creation of the physical world
one step at a time. And then he went on
to explain the whole process of what that actually means.

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How do you start from nothing and then end up
in this black hole in the center of the earth,
and how does that get to the surface of the earth,
and how does matter manifest and then what happens to
it all? So he's laid it all all out a
complete with the map, and when I present, then that's

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what I do.

Speaker 3 (20:05):
I construct the creation process one step at a time.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
And how does this correlate with compassion?

Speaker 4 (20:15):
Well, compassion in his definition, he stresses that you know,
we all hear compassion and we think love and empathy,
but he tries to elevate it to a scientific level.
So think of compass, and what he says is you
can't see compassion, but you can see its influence on

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the creation of matter. So, like a compass that draws circles,
compassion impels energy to step out of the zero point
and into the everything and create this electromagnetic domain. It's
a singularity that surrounds all of the mathematics that are

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going to be my universe, and you have a singularity
that defines your universe that you're experiencing. And so that's
one thing that this force of compassion does is it
creates these membrane domains. And then the second thing it does,

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like a compass that you find the true north with
the needle, Compassion then takes these electromagnetic domains and aligns
them energetically with true north of the Earth. So remember
we're in the center of the Earth. Now this is
all being birthed to the center of the Earth. So

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now we're aligned with true North. So we're all on
the same map. We all have the same legend, we
all have the same directions. And the third thing that
does to energy then is a little more like what
we think of compassion of love and empathy, is that

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it infuses our singularity, the root of who we are,
with this innate understanding that we are all one being,
and physics has a word for it, it's slipping my mind,
but entanglement, that there's this idea in physics that particles,

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when they're entangled, they have this innate communication with each
other that stretches over.

Speaker 3 (22:35):
Time and space.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
And communicate and are a part of each other in
a way that can't be unentangled. So he kind of
took a play on compassion to elevate it to a
little more of a kind of a scientifically understanding of
how this god energy works to start to create they

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a world.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
You said something interesting earlier that when you're communicating with
what is claiming to be Albert Einstein, that it comes
through the same as the angels and the song. Is
that correct?

Speaker 3 (23:15):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (23:17):
Do you think that is? Because that's the only way
your brain antenna can pick up this transmission, and it
only comes through in one fashion, as say, your inner
dialogue or your conscience.

Speaker 3 (23:37):
I think that is the yes. That's the medium, that's
the yes, And it does in fact.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
Work the same as I said, Like when I write
a song, I go into the nothing, I close my eyes,
and I listen.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I always used to say the song was.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
Already written and I was just hearing it and then
bringing it through. And it's the same thing I would
hear melody in words, they just didn't happen to be
a specific entity. But when you go to listen for
those words, it is the same process.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
Indeed, I found that interesting because when I had my
experiences with what I understand is my higher self, it
would come through as the same way as my inner dialogue.
But even if I'd have experiences where something else was

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communicating through either meditation or a psychedelic experience, which I've
had other things attempt to communicate, in a sense, it
is the same way. It's coming through that same inner dialogue,
but the vibration or frequency or feeling that I get
when it comes through is slightly different. Is that the
same for you?

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yes, And so when you're listening and coming through, they're
probably well, you'll tell me, is there a clarity up
front of what it is or is there like for me,
if you're taught, let's say I can illustrate on a timeline,

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it doesn't really look like this, but like the information
is coming towards me and it's getting into my field
of hearing. And then, like you say, there's our internal dialogue,
and there's you know, there's all kinds of stuff that
goes on into our intellect. But when it gets in
there and then I tune into it and I start

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to speak it, I don't know if there's like a
like I'm conscious that I'm supposed to be like in
this range of frequency just listening here, or if I'm
just naturally attuned to that after all these many, many,

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many many years of doing it, and it always does
come back to how is that flow? And what are
those words? What that brings up is this picture of
our inner world that isn't just what we sometimes perceive

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it to be. You know, we go through life so
fast that thoughts, feelings, and senses all get smashed together
half the time, and we're reacting and acting. But when
we slow down and listen and tune in on that level,
I think, for me, anyway, I get me and then
I get out the voice but it doesn't feel like

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it's so outside of me, but it definitely feels different
than me.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
And again, the the proof.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
For whatever it is is in when I start to speak,
and then at this point there is no editing anymore necessary.
With my transcripts and with my recording, it's all perfectly
formed sentences with incredible connection of information. From the start,

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they weave through the same themes, and there's all this stuff,
and that to me is just I'm okay with the
mystery of it, you know, I'm okay with having at
the root of it be I think it's Albert Einstein.
I think it's the party. But I'm okay knowing just
that the information is so high level and it's been

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so profoundly proven now.

Speaker 3 (27:49):
Over the years.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
Now I can say that now, but you know, thirty
years ago, it was a little harder.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:55):
Going back to some of the information talk a little
bit about the map of humankindiousness. This seems like a
massive concept to try and relay over channeling.

Speaker 3 (28:08):
You know, it is, but it's not.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Part of it was stemming from the work that we
did with the angels, because back then, as they were
teaching us this process of resolving our inner conflict. They
laid out this very simple map, and it was that
they said, there's what they call the three human dimensions
of emotion, intuition, and intellect. And they were like, they

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are like spiritual organs in the sense that your heart
does one thing, your stomach does another thing, but they
work interdependently. And if your heart's ailing, you do one thing,
if your stomach's ailing, you do another.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
And so the angels taught.

Speaker 4 (28:52):
Us how to understand those three human dimensions, what they
were about, how they interacted together.

Speaker 3 (29:01):
And so when Einstein came to the unified field theory,
he took that and I think.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
The gist of it is that we don't have the
experience of a physical world without us perceiving it. Otherwise
it's just mathematical potentials and energy.

Speaker 3 (29:20):
But it takes a.

Speaker 4 (29:22):
Human, this human awareness and cooperation to channel the world
that we're seeing. We're perceiving it through our body, we're
projecting it and we're perceiving it. And it's really intertwined
with the unified field theory. You have to have human

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consciousness in order to have the physical experience.

Speaker 2 (29:47):
Now, for those that aren't familiar, talk a little bit
about your understanding of the unified field theory.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Well, scientists, when Einstein was alive, the difficulty they had
was the science of the microcosm was so different than
the science of the macrocosm in the heavens and the
planets and so somewhere.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
I don't quote me on ears, but in the.

Speaker 4 (30:17):
Twenties and the thirties, science has started to talk about
this quantum field, and Einstein in real life didn't think
that there was such a thing. He thought it was
sort of foolish, and so he did not pursue trying
to find a formulas, mathematical formulas and scientific formulas that

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could explain how matter works on this quantum level the
same way that it works in the macrocosm and in
the space level. And it's only now that in twenty
twenty five, that science is really starting to find that

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mathematical formula to explain that, and it's just emerging.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
Now. Do you still have an ongoing communication with Albert
Einstein and these other intelligences?

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yes, I do regular communications.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
And what kind of information comes through on a regular basis.

Speaker 4 (31:28):
You know, a lot of it at this point is
about it's about education, like educating people on the structure
of how things work, and educating people on how you
can master these three human dimensions, and then how that

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affects what you experience in life, how you go through life,
and what when you align to compassion as we call it,
where we get feeling and breathing all our emotion, listening
for intuition, and then doing what intuition.

Speaker 3 (32:06):
Tells us we're able to facilitate.

Speaker 4 (32:11):
Kind of it's the evolution of human consciousness. It's it's
us mastering our energy that then has a profound effect
on how we experience what's going on in life. And
so a lot of the channeling is about that continuing
education and the shift, but I think a lot of

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it is also to inspire people to rise up to
understand how much more power we really have in life
than we even know, and then to be inspired to
want to use your energy for the greatest good, which
is what conflict revolution is. It's teaching us how to

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make decisions for the good of the whole based on
taking care of ourselfs and so that it's a lot
of what my channeling is right now, and.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
It's it's honestly not for everyone.

Speaker 4 (33:10):
I don't like try to think that this is just
for the general public, because you kind of have to
want to look outside the box, you know, like your
whole show is about looking outside the box and exploring
things that you know may not be culturally sanctioned, but
let's talk.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
About them and see them.

Speaker 4 (33:31):
So that's how I feel lately that it's it's it's
really two things to know how to do it and
then to be inspired to do it.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Well, let's break down conflict revolution. What is this?

Speaker 3 (33:48):
This is basically a practice.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
It's like a spiritual practice that requires your commitment to
your own self awareness. So for example, when I practice,
which I do every day, it's I live this way.
Is I wake up, of course, say my prayer of gratitude,
thank you, thank you, thank you, and then I set
my intention that today I'm going to be aware of

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what I'm feeling, my emotion, what intuition will tell me
at any given moment, and then what my thinking in
my intellect is creating. And with this awareness, I think
the major differences in conflict revolution to other practices is,

(34:36):
first of all, it's about feeling all your feelings. A
lot of spiritual practices have you you know only in
the high vibrations and staying away from anger and depression
and anxiety. But we instead want to unify that field
of emotion and not suppress any of it. And to

(34:57):
do that, the trick is to feel using your breath
when it's happening, rather than your thinking process, because that's
what we do. Say we get triggered to anger, and
then we get thoughts of anger, and then pretty soon
we're making decisions based on we think the anger is

(35:20):
because so and so did this to me, so now
I have to do that to him. And there's this
whole part of the connection of what creates our world.
So when you separate this emotional body from the intellectualizing,
something happens to our energy that frees it up. And ideally,

(35:42):
when we're breathing and feeling everything with our breath work
and trying not to let it go into the projection
on who did what to me? And sometimes we put
in a mantra of some sort. I used to use
this one that was like, I don't have to know
why I'm mad, I just have to feel and breathe
it right now and get it out of me, and

(36:03):
then that would allow me to kind of step back
and just be there with it. But as we do that,
it pulls up into our heart center where our intuition is.
And intuition is always going to tell us that next
most advantageous step to take right then and there for
the good of this whole situation. And it's this voice

(36:25):
of God sort of within us, and emotion informs that.
And where all the conflicts come is because all of
this beautiful perfect system will flow up into the intellect.
And by design, sort of a cruel joke, the ego
is the control center for our decision making processes. So

(36:50):
if we decide to turn left, it's not the intuitive
center that sends the neural network out to the hand
to grab the steering wheel and turn to the left.
That's the intellect. That's where that comes from the brain.
So basically, we've been given the power to say no
to our intuition and our voice of God within us.

(37:13):
And this is where Einstein says all the manifestation of
conflicts arise from because and think of it, it's it's
not brain surgery where if your intuition is telling you
you know you have maybe you have all this anger
or frustration or whatever, and you're breathing it up and
intuition is saying rest, rest, and it gets up to

(37:39):
your brain and your intellect sayss I can't rest.

Speaker 3 (37:41):
I've got one hundred and ten things to do.

Speaker 4 (37:43):
And then you make the decision to go do one
hundred and ten things, and pretty soon you're having conflicts
with people, you're even more tired, you're getting sick.

Speaker 3 (37:54):
So it's a basic example of it.

Speaker 4 (37:59):
But when when we align and when then when rest
into itally comes up ideally we stop and go, Okay,
I gotta take a break for a second. I gotta
I gotta just rest for a second, and then we
actually go do something that isn't taxing or what have you,

(38:22):
and that inner work has It's a mysterious process, but
it affects how things play out.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
There seems to be so many layers to peel through
when it comes to having the optimal human experience, clearing trauma,
clearing negative experiences, and being able to trust your intuition,
because if you have all that baggage and you're going
through life not aware that these things are causing problems

(39:02):
in your life, it makes it more difficult to trust
your intuition and your intuition may be muddled with some
negative energy and may not be bringing you in the
right direction. So this shadow work, this self healing, healing trauma,
for me, was one of the most important things I
could do before I could even dive deep into these

(39:24):
metaphysical spiritual concepts, because it wouldn't have come through clearly
if I wouldn't have healed a lot of that trauma
and worked through that stuff.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Yes, and the trauma, I think is, if we're going
to deconstruct it is there's the emotion of the trauma
because I too was very traumatized as a child. There's
the emotion of the trauma that's kind of stuck in
our system that we haven't just been able to move out.
And then there's the intellectual descriptions of the trauma. And

(40:00):
this is one reason why I think conflict revolution makes
psychology a bit obsolete because in psychology, and you maybe
have been through counseling, I've been through therapy a lot
in my life. It was a lot of talking about
the story of what the pain was connected to, and

(40:24):
many times just talking about it over and over and
over kind of doesn't really do anything except re traumatize you,
it brings it up, and then there's the story, Oh yeah,
it was my dad and my dad did this to me.
So conflict revolution does it freeze us from that to
be able to take the emotion of that trauma, which

(40:47):
is and you know, because you've been through this, it's
oftentimes when you're triggered by people, it has nothing to
do with them. They're just the ones triggering you back
to the memory of the trauma and this connection of
the obsessed pain that's tied to the thoughts of what
your father did or what have you. So we have

(41:10):
found a way to liberate ourselves from that cycle, get
the emotion moving, and then we can look at our
thought processes and how we're going to change our thinking.

Speaker 2 (41:22):
Would you say that synchronicity is tied into these techniques
that the universe is communicating with us at all times
and paying attention to some of these messages is a
massive part of our journey and this communication can definitely
help lead us down our path. Would you say that

(41:45):
this is part of everything that we're kind of discussing
as it relates to connecting to spirit.

Speaker 4 (41:54):
Yes, it's absolutely the root of synchronicity and the reason
is is because if you look at that, when you
see the unified field and you see the center of
the planet, and then you see the surface of the
planet where our lenses, you know, our bodies are. We're
having this physical experience, and there's this gravitational wave that
has these three human dimensions, and what Einstein says is

(42:18):
from the center of the earth and this compilation, it's
like a projection into the lens, and our bodies are created,
and our bodies project this whole physical world, and then
we perceive it. And whatever the condition is of this
part of the wave between emotion, intuition, and intellect, it's

(42:38):
perfectly going to manifest in the lens. So if there's
conflict and absessed emotion on that wave, it's perfectly going
to manifest as conflict and absesses that manifest in the
lens and synchronicity comes. I think, well, I think it's

(42:59):
there all the time, but we just we don't see it.
When we're bogged down in our intellect and trying to
compartmentalize everything, we miss it. But when we align to
compassion and we find that peace within us and that
surrender and the movement of the emotion, then suddenly that's

(43:19):
able to manifest. And that's what the angels were saying.
If we resolve the conflict here, it will naturally affect
how things manifest, and synchronicity becomes really for me, and
it sounds like for you too. It becomes very intense
when I get into this journey, and especially with conflict

(43:42):
revolution just quickly. For example, I had a conflict where
I had a manager at work who would always make
me do more work, and then she criticized me for it,
and I was getting very frustrated, and I thought, well.

Speaker 3 (43:58):
Let's do conflict revolution. So I started after work.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
I would instead of thinking about all the things she
did to me, I would start breathing my frustrations. But
we take a sound bite, like we identify what is
it that she's doing that's pissing me off, name it
in a little SoundBite that I can remember and use. Well,
she makes me do her work and then she criticizes

(44:23):
me for it. And it took me two weeks of
waking up in the morning and being intending to see
that myself. Where do I do that? Where is that
a mirror of my shadow side? And I couldn't for
the life of me think of it. So I called Teresa,
and of course she knew immediately, and she said, remember

(44:44):
when you and your husband were having trouble and you
left him separated for a while, and he paid the
mortgage and he cut the grass and he took care
of the dog, and he put up the storm windows.
And all you could say was he didn't support you.
And that hit me in that aha moment of holy smokes. Now,

(45:04):
I never would have found that with him if I
wasn't doing conflict revolution. And I wasn't doing it. I
was doing it to resolve the conflict. But when I
went to him then and said, oh my gosh, I
have to make amends to you, and took care of
my part, the next day, she was fired. Now I

(45:27):
didn't go to get her fired. It was the synchronicity
that happens when we resolve that conflict on that inner
level and then take responsibility for ourselves and clean it up,
then there's a chance for that higher manifestation of that
higher vibration to be seen and have a play in

(45:50):
our lives.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
That's what I wanted to get to is how this
can possibly have a greater effect on the collective everything
that I've come to life up until this point is
that these blanket collective solutions that are put forward by politicians,
a ruling class, think tanks, all these things that we've

(46:12):
tried and tried and tried for centuries or decades that
never work. They never will because in my understanding, it
all has to do with our individual experience and what
we can individually do in our lives, because that is
the only way to truly affect change. It has this

(46:33):
one hundredth monkey type effect, this energetic effect. If I'm
doing something in my life that benefits me and it
is a change from something that I was doing that
negatively affected me, it has an effect on people around
me in a sense that they want that for their lives,

(46:55):
and then they continue to do things that makes their
lives better. And it seems to have this energetic effect
that radiates through and from everything I've learned and in
all my experiences, this is the only thing that can
truly affect change on a greater scale is in our

(47:15):
individual lives. Would you agree with that.

Speaker 4 (47:19):
I would absolutely one hundred percent say none of it's
going to change until we change one at a time
within this So.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
Maybe we could talk a little bit more about how
we can put that in effect in our lives.

Speaker 4 (47:39):
Well, I've learned after all of these years of practice
of this that as I get more clear, as I
make better decisions to take care of myself, not project
onto people, quit my inner fight, and that changes my

(47:59):
own that increases my synchronicity. But what happens with people
is that the people who are ready to also be
that change, they rise to the occasion. They like you said,
they get inspired. You have different relationships with everybody around
you because you're not projecting and you're not fighting with

(48:21):
them over things that were really for you to resolve here,
not to play out in a drama so you could
act it out and figure it out. But the people
who aren't wanting to be self responsible or take care
of themselves, they go be attracted to that drama. And
I have to say it, after all these years, my

(48:45):
circle has gotten smaller because I don't make decisions that
I used to. Oh, well, I have to say yes
to being with this person. I have to be their
friend because otherwise I'm not a good person. Or all
of that is removed, and as I take care of myself,
then I'm able to when intuition says stay away from

(49:07):
that drama, then I can say no, thank you. But
the quality of my friendships and the peace that I have.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Is really remarkable.

Speaker 4 (49:20):
And because I'm taking care of myself, I don't need
that big circle of friends to validate me, and consequently
what plays out in my life is much more peaceful.
And I'm I just think if the world could get
this that I know it is. I know it is

(49:41):
the answer to going. You know, they talk about the
new Earth that we're birthying, and I think that's what's happening.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
For the last few minutes we have. Let's talk a
little bit about your understanding of the layers of reality
beyond our perception. If you've gotten any information from you're
channeling about the spirit realms, the realms of interdimensional intelligences,
angelic intelligences. Are they connected? Is there layers of reality

(50:12):
beyond our perception? Have you gotten any information about this?

Speaker 4 (50:18):
I think reality is a tremendously complex system, and I
think that our minds to think that we can grasp
it is like thinking we can understand God. So we
start with this sort of humble busness that we're not.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Going to understand all of it. It's going to be
this mystery.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
However, our philosophy and when you see the unified field
and you see the maps of human consciousness and we
explain everything begins within me. So whether it's the angels
or the demons, or the aliens or any other entities playadians,

(51:05):
all of that begins in me and for me personally,
my expression is this affiliation with Einstein and the party
and this angelic round. Other people have an affiliation with
the Pleadians and extraterrestials. Some people I just did reading

(51:28):
for a woman who her whole thing was kind of
the Celtic reality of the little people and that goddess energy.
So everybody has their own beautiful expression, and I think
they're bandwidth of what they're able to perceive. I don't

(51:51):
do ufo alien things. I'm not a big demon. I
haven't seen demons. A lot of my associates have seen
that and manifest those leave layers.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
I think they're all there. It's just what do we
tune in on.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
It's sort of like our consciousness has the ability to
tune like a radio frequency, and all these layers of
reality lie at different frequencies, these different intelligences are there,
and they can at times even reach out to us.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (52:31):
And think about that radio analogy is that you really
can't be tuned in to every radio station that there
is all at once. It's just we don't have that
capacity at this point, so it has to come out
in some form of individual expression of whatever that is.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
Now, last few minutes, is there any final thoughts that
you'd like to leave the audience with anything we haven't
coverage yet.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
I think we've covered a gracious plenty, But I just
want to leave people with the thought that we underestimate
the importance of our personal work. It's just the nature
of being human. We can't see a direct correlation to
how if we resolve these inner conflicts we're going to
be helping to contribute to the kind of collective piece.

(53:25):
We don't often see the but we do. And when
we start with ourselves and start to take care of
ourselves in a way that we haven't before, and become
integrated and whole and flowing, then I think we have
this opportunity to see where the miracles of the manifestation

(53:49):
as we master this can take place. So I encourage everyone,
whatever your practice is, to go in, find that peace,
get to know yourself and it's your life.

Speaker 3 (54:03):
You know, you have control over it. Take it.

Speaker 2 (54:07):
How do you feel about this state of collective awareness,
especially over the past few years. Are you encouraged by everything?
Do you have hope for where we're going with our
understanding of spirituality in these concepts?

Speaker 3 (54:24):
You know, I actually have a great deal of hope.
I'll tell you too.

Speaker 4 (54:28):
In twenty eleven, I left my spiritual I was on
a beautiful pathway teaching and training, turning in the world,
and I became an investigative journalist and an activist in
my state where I live in Wisconsin, and it had
to do with protecting the water. But I got very
wrapped up in politics and in political processes and reporting

(54:50):
on political processes. And in the past fifteen years I
went through so much on that level that I realized
by doing that, not just by sitting home and having
an opinion, but actually watching legislatures and et cetera, that
it does you'll be able to have any kind of

(55:13):
opinion about anything.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
In that realm, And that when we elevate.

Speaker 4 (55:19):
Ourselves up to a higher understanding than we have this freedom.
And I've probably since I've I left on my World
Piece tour in July of twenty three, so it's been
two years. On my third year, I've probably been on
two hundred podcasts, and everyone young. I mean there's some

(55:45):
middle aged people, but most of them are young people
like yourself, and like yourself. You're a perfect example, just
another person who gets this. I mean in nineteen ninety
three when I started doing this, it was very controversial.
Now the young people, they just get it in there

(56:05):
and they're able to understand and tell me like you,
you reiterated and really confirmed a lot of what I know,
and that gives me just enormous hope, enormous hope. But
you don't see it in the news right now, and
that that's okay. We're we've always been kind of a

(56:26):
secret society tapped into compassion right on.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Well, I have hope myself. I do enjoy what I'm
seeing with a lot of people's awareness. Barbara, thank you
so much. This was great information. Remind the audience how
they can find out more your website, social media, anything
you have out there. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Absolutely, I have Barbara withth dot com and a couple
things there.

Speaker 3 (56:49):
I have what.

Speaker 4 (56:50):
I'm calling the Conflict Revolution Challenge, where you can download
the free guidance for how to do it and then
you Also, I have a free workbook that you can
work it and keep track of it and take your
notes and then document the kind of miraculous synchronicities that
begin to flourish when you do it. Also, I'd like

(57:13):
to offer you or your listeners kind of a special
for a reading, because I think my readings are very special.
If you buy a half hour reading, I will give
you an hour reading and you can look that up
on Barbarawith dot com. And I'm also on Facebook at
Barbara with and Instagram. I'm the Psychic Sorority at barb

(57:34):
With and it's all there, and come visit me and
come sign up and get.

Speaker 3 (57:39):
My daily I got a lot. I do a lot
of free stuff.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
I do a lot of channeling, a lot of meditations,
and I got the Psychic Sorority conversations going on excellent.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
I'll have all those links easily accessible for everyone writing
the description. Thank you so much, Barbara. Love to talk
again in the future, and until next time, everyone, have
an excellent evening. We will talk it again tomorrow.

Speaker 1 (58:01):
We'll see you then.

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Speaker 1 (59:33):
There's layers upon layers upon layers. Does add such an
element of mystery to this place?

Speaker 2 (59:38):
Why are we here?

Speaker 3 (59:39):
We're getting closer to the truth now.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
Too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.

Speaker 6 (59:53):
Dreams involve interactions with real entities. People are waking up
paralyzed their sense or seeing something very evil in the room.

Speaker 2 (01:00:03):
I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.

Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
about these things.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
A upologists would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
our paranormal research would.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
Say, we'll have the ghost.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Well what if it's all of those things and none
of those things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
The entities, the intelligence that were just beyond our understanding.

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
There seems to be something a little extra that can
take forms of anything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
a daily basis. We're definitely not alone. UFOs UAPs portals
opening up.

Speaker 6 (01:00:51):
I really thought this supernatural stuff you kind of grow
up with that. Around here, you see a lot of
strange things. I don't like to talk about skinwalkers too much.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

Speaker 6 (01:01:08):
People they would say they were transform into bears, into wolves.
There's these bad things that occur, goals, rfos and all
types of things coming from somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seem to
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

Speaker 4 (01:01:28):
There is so much more that we just don't have
time for in this busy, loud and noisy life.

Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
That we lead.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.

Speaker 4 (01:01:39):
There's so much more out there.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
We really are picking up such a small small percentage
of the electromagnetic spectrum. The world is an amazing place.
It feels like we're God's in training.

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