Don't Be A Dick, Degradation of Morality, Humanity's Identity Crisis | Stephen Stathis - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 2 (01:25):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today's a special episode. It is day one of the
fourth Annual Forbidden Gathering. Our first guest of honor has arrived.
Also a member of the Forbidden Knowledge Network, Stevens Staves,
also host of BEGCAS podcast, philosopher and man of many talents. Stephen,

(01:50):
How are you today?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I'm great, man. I'm excited for this fourth annual Gathering.
I've been looking forward to coming up actually, you know,
since you announced it, and yeah, looking forward to uh
getting weird, getting funky, getting strange, and maybe we'll summon
a sessquatch or two. We'll see what's going on.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
We'll definitely be someone this squatch. Baby. Yes, we're all
here to celebrate. It's going to be a good time.
It's all about love and celebration and sharing that positive
energy and every year we have a wonderful time. We
not only have our fellow podcasters here from the network,
but we have fans of the show friends, and the

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atmosphere is that of just acceptance, love and community, and
that's what this weekend will be about as well as
well as getting weird, sharing weird stories, having games, having
some good food and a good time in general. So
we're very excited about that. Today, we're gonna talk a

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little bit about some recent events, reactions to it, and
our insights on how to proceed because things in this
reality have presented themselves recently in a very negative way
as it relates to the way some folks have reacted

(03:10):
to said events. But we're gonna get into that. But Stephen,
for those that aren't familiar, tell us, well, just a
little bit about yourself. Let the audience know how they
can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
All right, guys, I'm Steven and I am the head
of Beugi Cast, and we covered the Great Awakening live
and all it entails. I mean, we get I'm gonna
use a joke here, We're gonna we get real balls
deep into the esoteric and the occult. We also just
discussed conspiracies and a lot of the current events that
are going on as of right now during this very

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strange alchemical transmutation for humanity that we're experiencing. So we're
learning together, guys. You know, we're all going through this together.
And you know, like Chris was just saying here, community
is one of the most important things right now, us
sticking together, us having our backs, and you know, I'm
a proponent that a lot of us, you know, we
need to drop these petty minute differences and belief in

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ideology we have and ultimately work together to overcome and
lift the foundational frequency of this planet into something much higher,
much better and living a better life than we are
right now going through this very strange, unknown and uncharted territory,
at least for dispatch of humanity. And of course you

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know you can find me on the forbidd of Knowledge
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Speaker 2 (04:34):
Let's get into recent events. Get your thoughts on the
death of Charlie Kirk. I will be honest, I wasn't
that familiar at all with who he was. I never
followed his work. I don't follow any political activists. I
don't get involved with that nonsense. If you followed me

(04:56):
for any amount of time, you know that. But I
also so know that it was a fellow human being
that was murdered. He had a wife and children. The
reaction that I've seen from many people of hate and
celebrating this man's death is very disturbing. I understand that

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you may not have agreed with a lot of what
this man said. I don't agree with a lot of
what a lot of people say, but murder is never
going to cross my mind. And you and I were
talking earlier that this was a sort of test for
humanity to go where we're at with our level of

(05:41):
spirituality collectively. But what are your thoughts on everything?

Speaker 3 (05:45):
My thoughts on this No, And I, just like you, Chris,
I've straight away from the political sphere for a while now.
I stopped focusing on it back in my first season
of the show, because, like you, man, I decided to
dive within and start my and start really taking the
spiritual aspect of this experience we're having. But I do
know Charlie, you know, he don't get me wrong. I

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didn't agree with a lot of what Charlie said. You know,
he's a huge conservative. I'm an anarchist, you know. I mean, yes,
we have some things we see in common. But I
had a respect for him and the fact that he
would he was taking a similar route that I was
at least trying to take, you know, maybe in his

(06:29):
own way, but having these conversations with the opposite side
trying to bridge some kind of disconnect. You know, they're
open up some kind of course of communication when it
comes to, you know, opposing side, so we don't end
up in a situation like we could potentially end up
in here soon, you know, and all all of the

(06:50):
conspiratorial stuff aside. I you know, I know there's a
lot of things floating out there, and of course, you know,
I kind of have gravitated away from the arracies a
little bit because of you know, focusing on the underlying thing.
Every rabbit hole is trying to teach you here that
there is a spiritual nature to this reality. But you know,

(07:11):
a conspiracy aside, I'll digress and say he had some
bravery men. He at least attempted to do what he
thought was the right thing. And it is it's disheartening
to see how many people are actually celebrating to death
with someone that wasn't an evil human being, like you know,
with the Queen of England died all right, and people

(07:32):
were celebrating that's one thing, Okay, Like that's one thing.
She's behind so many actual atrocities, so many missing children,
So would you name it all of that? That's that's
a little bit of a different story, okay, but Charlie
Kirk was not It was not after children or anything

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like that, doing anything evil per se. So like it's
it's it's about having this kind of like compassion and
epith be for humanity itself. And I do feel like
Chris right now, what's happening is there's these constant separation
of the week from This constant separation of the week
from the chant is ultimately what's happening. There is a
test happening right now, and you know a lot of

(08:16):
people are failing these tests. There is some overlying source
or energy or something that is intentionally and directing this
scenario to go these certain places. It's almost like these
litmus tests that are kind of starting to occur in
the collective. So right now we should be holding in

(08:38):
our awareness that we are being tested on a very
deep and nately spiritual level. I know, regardless of what
your beliefs are on what that is, all right, this
is something that is starting to become apparent, at least
in my opinion. I know in your opinion too, this
is becoming pretty apparent. And that was a litmus test
of sorts for the collective you know, it's the ones

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who celebrated the death of this person ultimately failed it,
and the ones that had empathy towards it despite not
agreeing with the individual who passed away past the test. So,
and that's what I say, guys, we've got to hold
this in our awareness right now.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
It seems that there has been a degradation of morality
in a sense that I remember growing up there was
this baseline understanding of how to treat people that went
across races, across political beliefs, cross sexes. You just knew

(09:42):
how to treat people right, and you didn't overstep certain boundaries.
Then you didn't endorse murder of another person, especially and
look at the use of drugs, you can look at
the use of social media, all these things. Is that
hinder the growth of our consciousness and it's causing the opposite.

(10:08):
You can also say this in a sense has been
intentional by the predator class, that we are subjected to
their systems, and their systems are toxic, and hence it
causes a degradation in the mental state of the collective.
And this is where we're at right now. I think

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at some point you have to take personal responsibility. You
can't exit this reality unless you take your own life,
and I don't want to do that. So we want
to find our best way to navigate through the nonsense. Unfortunately,
people have lost that compass. They have no more navigation

(10:50):
skills for some reason. It's probably a combination of many
of the things I just said, but it's a problem.
It's a huge problem, and the question is where do
we go from here? The answer for me was finding
a spiritual connection and cleaning up my trauma and emotional
and mental mess. I wouldn't have been able to come

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to this understanding if I wouldn't have done so. But
it's hard work to do that, and unfortunately, it seems
that a lot of people don't want to take those
steps to do that hard work. Hence where we're at
right now. So the question again is where do we
go from here?

Speaker 3 (11:32):
Well, ultimately, man, what I feel is we do we
need to implement a spiritual way of life back into
the society. Secularism it had its purpose for a time,
you know, because on my show I've gone off on
the whole secular thing and a lot of people have
come out well, you know, no, it had its purpose.

(11:54):
It needed to happen for certain reasons. And and you know,
I look back, I'm always growing. I'm I never claimed
to know everything. So when I look back and I
kind of take a look at like the scope of
how it has affected this society. And yes, it was
needed for a time, it was we had to experience
that kind of separation. But now the time of that

(12:14):
separation is over. It is and we have to ultimately
admit collectively what is right in front of our faces.
There is a spiritual nature to this reality. Why would
every single conspiracy And this is one of the thing
that a lot of people, you know, I think a
lot of the at least recent conspiracy community negates because

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back when I was in the conspiracy community pre twenty twenty,
a lot of the conspiracy community didn't negate this. They
admitted that this was the case. And a lot of
them are also on their spiritual evolutions. But there is
there's a there's a spiritual nature to this reality, and
that is what every conspiracy shows you. They all have
esoteric and occult ties. Okay, so it's time we stop

(12:58):
denying what's in front of our face and we start
embracing it. And not only embracing it, in taking and
embodying the principles of that back into our collective. And
you know, it doesn't even have to be called a
spiritual way of life. I mean, at minimum, it can
be called the path of the good person, you know,
having a sense of community, you know, actually bridging these

(13:21):
disconnected communications. Like you were saying, Man, look at Ai.
I mean, dude, I don't know if you heard this,
but have you seen what the Japanese Rock is now?
It's a Japanese sex robot. Literally, they have this anime.
Yeah you know, you guys know from my show about that,
but they have this anime girl now who is on
in Rock Japan. And the more you interact with her,
and the more that you build a relationship with her,

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clothes start to come off. And then you have this
nude anime check on your phone that's basically operating from Rock.
But I mean, look at where we're at, man, we
got the human connection has just dissolved. It's dissolved. And
you know, we're not having the bonfires, were not having
the block parties, we're not having the cookouts, We're not

(14:04):
on that personal basis with each other as humans anymore.
And Ultimately that's what needs to be brought back. That's good.
That's going to fix this. It is, you know, instead
of everybody staring down at their phones and being stuck
on social media all day, you know, actually going outside
in the nature, going and hanging out with people you
know and who are like minded or not. Maybe you

(14:24):
can plant a seed in the people that are not
like minded, because ultimately, turning everything to the black pill,
turning everything to the doom and the gloom, we're bringing
in that energy with that mentality. We don't want to
bring in that energy. We want to put our focus
into cultivating new earth. And that's why I'm not black pilled.
Some people might call me unrealistic. I'm just positively optimistic.

(14:47):
I understand that my mental faculties interact with my perceived
physical experience, and whatever mindset I have towards the situation
is ultimately what's going to manifest for me. And so
this is this is where how it gets fixed. And
of course, like don't get me wrong, there's amazing things
happening right now. You know, there is a obsurgence in
people learning about the spiritual meditation, you know, yoga, homesteading,

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uh being self sustainable, like you know, learning about things
like natural law. They might not have the the whole
big picture in their minds at this point in time,
but we're at the precipice of something good starting to
manifest as well. So that's where we should be channeling
our energy. That that that little easter egg of all
the work that we've done here starting to come to fruition.

(15:35):
I think that's where we need to put our energy
and start implementing that back in order to heal this.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
That connection, at least in my experience, was not going
to form until I was able to clean up a
lot of that mess. It just wasn't going to happen.
And it's a big problem in the spiritual community right
now because there are a lot of people that consider
themselves spiritual gurus that have completely skipped over all of

(16:06):
the personal work that they're supposed to be doing, and
they're already healing people and channeling entities and all the
wu wu stuff that you could imagine. We live in
a society where taking a pill and taking a pharmaceutical
is the most work we're going to see from a
lot of people, and it's very unfortunate because the system

(16:29):
and society tells us that that is how we solve
those problems, that that is the way to navigate through society.
And it's so deeply programmed that it's almost impossible to
get someone to see your perspective. Are the healthy way?
Are the way that's not detrimental to themselves or others

(16:50):
in society because they've been programmed by this aramonic demiurge
demonic programming. We are born into this reality. We are
programmed by this negative programming that is anti human to

(17:11):
its core, and to break that takes a lot of work.

Speaker 3 (17:16):
It does, man. And ultimately, yes, I mean I remember
when I first heard you call it anti human. It
most certainly is. And that's why I honestly feel this
is my opinion. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying
this is fact. I feel people who are failing the
test of seeing that this division is an illusion, and

(17:38):
that these individuals who are buying so heavily into whichever
wing of the bird of this bipartisan system, Uh, they
are starting to take on what I would call some
kind of negative aggregoric energy. I completely see I see it.
I saw it firsthand today. I was talking with you

(17:59):
and jen about it earlier in the kitchen. I have
this friend of mine. We have been friends for like
twenty plus years. Great friend of mine. I mean, I'm
still care about him, don't get me wrong. But this
is a guy who I kind of like, in the
beginning of my like spiritual evolution, kind of like looked
at what he did and tried to model that a little,
you know, Like he was a Kundalini yoga practitioner just
like I am. Now, you know, he had a vast

(18:23):
spiritual understanding that he was developing, and I would look
at him and be like, this is something I need
to start going his direction, like you know, and then
over time he ended up falling out of it. And
now he has become completely infected with the mind virus
of the leftist mentality and guys I bag on the
right too, like I bag on him both, like you know,

(18:45):
the right what the right has is just as much
of a mind virus says what the left has right now,
And it's almost like he's been demonically possessed, like and
just the way he acts and the way he talks,
Like I remember, even before the exchange we had today,
he sent me like a long string of what seemed
like it just it was a rational like nothingness and

(19:08):
just saying like we're on a negative timeline. This is
the way it is. Just deal with it. You know,
people are never going to come to an understanding like
just like weird things like that. But what this is
it's almost like possessed behavior that you start to see
in this people. What about the people who don't have
the empathy, that's almost like a possessed behavior too. And
you know, whether or not it's an eggergre, whether or

(19:29):
not it's a negative emperty, you know, I don't know,
But we were seeing these attributes of like very strange
behavior starting to kind of emerge from all of this.
And this is why this illusion of the vision, this
illusion of scarcity, everything that's being thrown at us to
take us out of creator mode in creation and make
us feel like by products of creation. If you're buying

(19:52):
into this still and you're giving it any form of attachment,
it's absolutely going to drain you. It is, and I've
seen it firsthand. I've seen many examples. My friend is
not just the only example I've seen when it's come
to this. So this is where we're at we're ultimately
reaching this crossroads. I mean, I've heard a lot of
people talk about, you know, timeline splits. I've heard a

(20:13):
lot of people talk about, you know, potentially two different
societies like coexisting together. Is that that being a possibility
of what's to come. But ultimately, like you were saying,
this negative ariemonic, demiurgic programming, it exists in at both
sides of the bird. It exists in this false matrix

(20:35):
reality in general, and when you give it attachment with
your free will, you're allowing that programming into you. And
that's why we have to be sovereign discerning human beings.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
At this time, I was talking with my friends Phoenix
Aurelius again, talking about how what we interact with online
has incredible spacetual powers that we don't realize are affecting us,

(21:06):
especially things like a negative comment or the comment section
in general, that people can actually get negative spiritual attachments
from interacting with things online. They hold that much power
because people are putting such nasty, negative energy into those comments.

(21:26):
It's like putting a spell out there, and somehow it
energy carries over to the person that's reading that comment,
and then they're afflicted with this spiritual eggregor that is
then going to be pounding them with negative thoughts. So
it is a self perpetuating mind virus that is originating.

(21:53):
I believe it's a lot of it originates online and
it's definitely been spreading faster in our modern age, oh
the Internet and AI.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
You know, dude, A lot of those comments or even
a lot of it's fake. Man, we're looking at this
is the biggest thing. Man. Comment farms exist, and it's
this is something that a lot of people. This is
why I don't argue with people online anymore, like and like,
and even even if like someone comes along and says
like I commented on Lex Friedman's posts the other day

(22:25):
when he was talking about that and I made a
statement about what had happened with Charlie Kirk, and out
of the the thirty reacts I got, which mostly loves
and likes, I got one laugh react and the guy
who laugh reacted me and I was just like, well, dude,
you're the only laugh react on this post. So what's
that tell you? I just diffuse it, you know what
I mean? But it is do you could be arguing

(22:48):
with a somebody who's not a real person you could
be arguing with AI. You could be arguing at this
dude at a comment with this dude at a comment farm,
who's freaking just harvesting your loose, just saying triggering shit
it to piss you off, and harvesting your energy and
you know, allowing yourself to become embedded with that dark
energy as well. And this is the playing field er

(23:09):
at man. You know when we say it's all fake
and gay, like yes, we're joking, don't get me wrong,
Like we're we're we're, but we're really not. We're we're
adding light. We're making light of the situation at hand
right now, and it is it's ultimately all fake and gay.
These these people who are arguing with you, they could
be AI boughts. They can't be they could be fake profiles.
I mean, fuck, I've seen videos on how X has

(23:31):
so many fake AI profiles. Right now, you don't even
know if the person you're talking with as a real
person or a fake person unless they're verified quote unquote.
But uh that's why, like you know, we're we're in
a very I'm not joking when I say we're in
very unknown, strange and uncharted territory for this match of humanity,
because a bigger illusion is being built up around us

(23:53):
at this point in time, and not everybody's aware of
that big illusion that's being built up around us. I mean,
it's almost like your reality is getting tailored to you
through the algorithms, Like you know, we've seen this, and
you are getting literally a fraction of what the entirety
of this reality is. It is building an illusion. If

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we're like again, yes, we're a societal maya, you know,
which is already illusionary in and of itself, and now
we're getting an exception illusion. Now we're getting another illusion
built up within societal maya.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Well, if you look at folks who have identity issues
and they're on pharmaceuticals, they have problems connecting to begin with,
this negative algorithm might be able to influence them, and
they take on this other personality or any other type

(24:51):
of personality that they get programmed to take on by
the interactions that they have online, by the movies that
they're watching, the negative influences they have. If they have
no identity of their own, they're going to take on
something if all they're interacting with is toxic filth and
negative people online. What kind of outcome is that going

(25:13):
to have? And wonder why we have so many young
people that are freaking out and shooting up places.

Speaker 3 (25:22):
Well, this is the thing too, man is you brought
up the medication and I was actually I've been doing
some research on the back end lately. There are a
lot of these pharmaceutical medications put people in a brain
wave state. It's an easily manipulated brainwave state. This is
why also too, a big reason probably why the pharmaceutical
companies fear things like psychedelics and cannabis becoming legal because

(25:47):
those don't put you in an easily programmable state. Those
actually expand your state, your awareness even further. But you know,
we're talking about a lot of the slew medications people
are on for all of the mental health issues that
they're having due to the way this society actually runs
and operates, which is not in a healthy way, and

(26:09):
that's why everybody is on medication. But it does it
puts them in that easily programmable state that allows them
to take on and embody these weird agregorical energies that
are going on right now. And that's why you know,
when you start to pull away from that and you

(26:29):
start to actually clean your body, stop taking these pharmaceutical medications,
you know, actually drink eat good food, drink good water,
taking good quality content. And that's something else that you
brought up too, man. I mean, the algorithms are just slow,
are just thrown up and just laden with triggering, polarizing,

(26:51):
viral material. And this is why people do need to
detox from social media. People need to go back out
to nature and actually look at the real world and
the real existence instead of sitting in the built up
illusion that's been constructed around them without their knowledge at
this point. So and that's that's really what it comes

(27:14):
down to, man, is ultimately, what we're gonna have to
do is we're going to have to start breaking away
and no longer attaching ourselves to this system. And I
know that's easier said than done, because the system actually,
you know, it intertwines in a lot of facets of
our life. And I've even talked to people in our
community about this. But this is where I call what

(27:35):
I call it, you know, bare minimum participation in the matrix.
And what does that mean. It doesn't mean that you
bear you do bare minimum in life, of course, not.
I'm not saying that. What that means is you, Yeah,
of course, you go out, provide for your family, give
yourself a comfortable place to live and a comfortable existence

(27:56):
here in this temporary human ride. Do something great here.
Change your self so you can change this world. You know,
go out laugh, have fun, have joy, have abundance. Okay,
go out and explore this existence, travel, do things like that.
You know. And but that doesn't mean you need to

(28:16):
hop on the political bandwagon and pick which side of
the bird, which wing of the bird you want to
hop on. That doesn't mean you need to over embellish
yourself in the bread and circuses of the false matrix reality.
That doesn't mean you need to pick a favorite TV sitcom.
That doesn't mean you dim your authenticity in this world

(28:38):
to live a shadow of a life. That doesn't mean
you listen to what these Hollywood actress actors and actresses say.
You know, it's it's detaching yourself from everything that siphons
you is ultimately what it is, and ultimately it's a
hurdle we're going to have to overcome, Chris, because even
some people in our community don't realize how attached they

(29:01):
are still, And I was even having this thought to
myself the other day and looking at the ways that
I'm still kind of attached, you know, and not luckily
not many, and they're they're they're easily to be taken
care of at this point. But it is we have
to be honest with ourselves and we have to start
taking the steps to move forward disconnecting from it completely.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
The biggest problems that this constant lowering of the bar
of human morality, the way that we treat each other
and the way that we treat our own bodies. There's
been this, like I said, this slow lowering of the
bar to where each year it's okay to partake in

(29:50):
more and more debaucherous behavior, two grosser food to more
toxic food. It's okay to poison the environment just a
little bit more because we've accepted this level of degradation.
What's another few layers thrown on top of that? Is

(30:10):
that really going to hurt us? Yes, it's hurting us
a lot, because there is no there's no finish line.
The finish line just keeps being pushed further and further,
and what's acceptable for human behavior keeps getting lower and
lower and it's modeled by things that the younger people

(30:36):
are seeing online and the entertainment business it always has been,
and that's where the cycle needs to break. We need
to check out of like you said, check out of
social media. We need a complete reformation of our entertainment
industry that focuses on humanity and not anti human behavior.

(31:02):
We go through cycles in humanity where we become more
aware of these things and there's a pushback from the
ruling class, and that's always where the problem seems to
come in. And we start to become aware of the
problems in our reality and that the problems in our
reality usually stem from those in control of our reality.

(31:27):
That's when the pushback starts, and that's when we end
up in an era of confusion and mind control where
we're at right now. So if we look at our
history and we are to believe that everything we experience
is cyclical and humanity has been reset multiple times, possibly

(31:51):
because we got too big for our birches and started
to question things like we are now. Who knows, but
it does seem that that react from the ruling class
is getting stronger and stronger, and need to check out
of the system as much as possible, because that's all
they have over us, a reliance on that system.

Speaker 3 (32:13):
It is they tried, that's that's how they They tried
to hypnotize us with fear. But it's already happening, Chris,
And you know, we were chatting about this, uh, you
know before we hopped on and decided to do this show.
There are people who are putting their foot forward and
taking the initiative to set the foundation for breaking away
from this. And this is why I've kind of called

(32:34):
it New Earth entertainment. You know. One of the biggest
things that makes it and this is the solution to
this all because one of the biggest things that makes
us hard to separate from this matrix system is there's
a lot of entertainment in it. Like I said, not
over embellish the bread and circuses when I was talking.
And of course I'm a human being. I like to

(32:55):
have fun too, you know, I like to laugh. I
like jokes at things like that. And who am I
to say people can't enjoy that. Well, there's already people
who are taking initiative to create entertainment that is not
laden with propaganda, that's not bombarding you with any kind
of negative or low frequencies. That's not trying to subconsciously
initiate you into anything that dark that's happening around here.

(33:20):
And this is the road we need to take, guys.
This is how we start breaking away. It's the initiative.
It's the initiative, I mean. And that's why even in
the show, I'm gonna say calling all talents, calling all
everybody who has some kind of creative spark within them,
whether you're a musician, you're a painter, you're a comedian,

(33:41):
you know, you like to you like to make videos,
anything along those lines. Man, let's get to work. Reach
out to me, reach out to Chris, you know, let's
get to work and start setting the foundation because ultimately,
this is how we break away. And I know the
entertainment factor is a big thing, because that's what I
get from people when I talk about this. They're like,
what I can't I can't go to the football game anymore,

(34:03):
or like, oh, what I can't you know, like partake
in any movies or anything anymore? And it's it's like no, Like,
there's things that will enrich you and there's things that
will drain you, and you want to have that stuff
that enriches you too, so like, and that's what it is, man,
It's about everybody putting our feet forward and being strong

(34:23):
in this community. Like I can't stress this enough, Like
and I feel like I beat the horse dead every
time I talk about this. But in our community that
the infighting over petty minute differences needs to end, all right.
I don't care if you think the fucking earth is round, flat, square,

(34:46):
eggplant shaped, fucking banana shaped? All right? Do you believe
there's a spiritual nature to this reality? Do you like freedom?
Do you like sovereignty? Like, do you like you know?
Do you want this to chae change? Do you want
to shift this? Okay, that's what I care about. We
can argue whether or not what shape of the earth,

(35:06):
what the shape of the earth is after we begin
to get this foundation built and start getting the energetic
ball rolling on, a true detachment from this false matrix reality.
And it's like, I don't know if it's like some
kind of eggrigore that's like still making people go out of it,
because we ultimately all have each other no matter how

(35:28):
hippie dippy it sounds. I don't really care if you
think it sounds hippie dippy. If this community were to
find some kind of unified front to work on, it
would be absolute endgame for the parasite class, and that
is why they keep us fighting amongst ourselves.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
I understand that not everyone is going to believe in
that stuff. That is not in the cards for everyone
on this plane. But I also know a lot of
people who aren't spiritual at all, and they're still amazing people.
Another thing that I've noticed along my journey is how

(36:02):
much my perception will fuel my reality and manifest things
and things that I'm focused on will become more prevalent
as that focus continues, Things that I'm looking into and

(36:26):
things that I spend a lot of time on will
become the forefront of my life. And that seems to
be the case for all of us. So what we're
putting our focus and energy into is going to show
up more in our reality and things that we aren't
and people that are putting their focus and energy into

(36:47):
eight and nonsense that the parasitic ruling classes putting forward
and divisive agendas, that is what's going to unfortunately perpetuate
in them your lives. So our perception, what we focus
on in my perspective is super important for our journey

(37:08):
and bringing us to that next step.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
And like Chris was saying, if spirituality is not your thing,
the path of the good person, all right, it doesn't
even have to have a spiritual connotation to it. It
can just be putting a good person on a pedestal,
putting the good person on the pedestal in this society
as opposed to putting egotism, narcissism, sociopathy, and psychopathy on

(37:33):
the pedestal in this society. And this is what we
see even in media and TV and things like this.
You know, the main character always has one of these
personality traits, and they try to make it seem cool
and edgy that he's an egotistical, narcissistic sociopath. May they
make it seem like it's cool and edgy, like this
is this is what you want to be, you know.
And it's it's as simple as that. It's about understanding

(37:57):
that even if you don't believe in a siritual nature,
there are tons of things in this existence that you
don't know about that are much bigger than you. And
that's even being in the most materialistic scientific sense. There's
a lot of things in this existence you don't know
about that are massive, and you yourself, whether you believe
it or not, are part of something that's much larger

(38:19):
than what's right in front of your face. And so
that's why too, I get it. You know, like some people,
you know, the spiritual road might not be for them,
or they you know, need to kind of sit and
think on the potential. Is there something like that for themselves?
And that's fine, that's completely fine. And as Chris was
saying too, I know tons of atheists that are amazing people.

(38:41):
They still believe in being a good person. They still
believe that community is everything, and they still believe that
we are part of something greater than ourselves, even if
they reject a spiritual notion to this reality. So this
is ultimately how it works for both. It works for
the spiritual community and it works for them. But we

(39:03):
all just implement the path of being a good person
and putting that on the pedestal in this world and
decommissioning the conditioning of egotism, narcissism, sociopathy and psychopathy that's
been put on a pedestal for all this years. And
we can see it, you know, like you can even
see it in the mainstream society. Being like that is

(39:23):
looked at as being cool. And that's why I want
no fucking part of mainstream society, because if you think
hanging around with hanging out with the dark triad is
a cool fucking thing to do, then I'm more sane
than you, and I'm out.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
Not only that, promoting obesity, unhealthiness, pedophilia, harming children, all
of these extremely horrific human behaviors that have been condemned
historically are now being praised and propped up in our

(39:57):
mainstream entertainment. So this is there's another, again, another huge
problem in our society. You have to form your own path,
You have to form your own connection. You have to
have your own identity, because if it's not you, if
you're not having your own identity, if you're not having
your own connection, you're gonna get connected to something else.

(40:20):
And if you don't have a positive influence in your life,
that connection is most likely going to be to something
connected to the parasitic matrix system. And you have too
many people that are already jacked up on that matrix
dow that's being pumped into them because they're plugged into it.

(40:43):
We don't need any more of that. So I think,
even if you don't have a spiritual foundation, even if
you don't believe in anything spiritual, if you believe in love,
if you've experienced love exactly, it's a good foundation to
base your experiences off of. That's a good way to
judge how to treat people. Operate off of a basis

(41:07):
of love. And it's better than the other choice yet.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
Oh man, And this is the thing too, like love
is actually a great thing. You brought it up, Chris,
because I've actually found a way to kind of showcase
it manipulates reality and time, which is interesting. And this
is this is cool because you can take these two
concepts like have you ever had a meal? And it
sounds simple, and it sounds ridiculous, but it's kind of true.

(41:36):
Have you ever had a meal that was made with love?
And then you had the same dish from somewhere else
that may have not been made with love. Tastes like
crap when it's not made with love, right, it's not
even awesome, you know what I mean? But when you
get that dish that actually had love put into it,
it's a phenomenally different phenomenally different experience. Also with time.

(41:56):
Have you ever noticed that when you're around the people
you love and that you truly cherish it, Somemo says,
it's like time slows down. It's almost as if like
our perspective of time takes a little bit of a
drop back because you're actually in a space where a
lot of love is actually present. So even to the
people who don't have the spiritual foundation, I know you've

(42:18):
experienced that, have you not. You've had grandma's dish that
was cooked with all this love, and then you have
that same dish at a restaurant, maybe maybe a year
or two down the road, and you're like, man, this
doesn't taste anything like grandma's dish. And every time you're
around the people you love, it's almost like time slows
down and you get to be able to cherish that moment.

(42:40):
So even just take that and run with it.

Speaker 2 (42:42):
Dude, you mentioned time. I was talking with this week
about how there seems to be such that time is
feeding up from a lot of people that things are
moving faster. And I get this too, and I have
to look at it from the perspective of some of

(43:04):
the younger generations. And people who don't have an understanding
of the true nature of the parasitic ruling class and
what they're being subjected to on a daily basis. If
they perceive that time is speeding up and this reality,
their existence is basically worth waking up, going to work,

(43:29):
coming home, having a beer, and repeating the same day,
and that's their experience of this existence, of this incarnation,
and there's nothing else for them, and time is speeding up,
so that existence is going to go by even faster.
I can see how people probably will start to get

(43:50):
depressed over feeling that way, and if more and more
people start to feel that way, that can have a
massive snowball effect on consciousness and society. So again that's why,
in my perspective, it's so important to unplug from that system,

(44:11):
adopt our own identities and have our own communities to
where we can check out of that system of time
that they control, because it's all an illusion anyway. Time
is a complete illusion, and so many people are slaves
to it in this reality, and if they believe it's

(44:32):
speeding up and they have less time, that's a very
depressing way to live. So that's another reason to check
out of the system, adopt your own communities, your own identities,
and your own sense of time and how long you
should be taking to do things and experience things, experience the.

Speaker 3 (44:53):
World theory on this, and when you're attached to the
matrix system, they're speeding up the perspective of time because
they realize everybody's awakening and people are starting to see things,
and so what they're trying to do is they're trying
to spread us even more thin than we already have been.

(45:13):
And that's where what I feel at least going on,
because I've noticed the parasite class is now going to
diversion measures. It's there. They're trying to ultimately divert and
disengage what they can no longer control. And now, mind you,
I can't prove this. I can't prove they're doing this,
but in my eyes, we already know that this reality

(45:39):
is false that we're in. It's generated, right, So think
of it this way. It's like, Huh, everybody's kind of
starting to waken up, wake up, and their awareness is increasing,
why don't we kind of put like a little bit
of a upgrade on the collective perspective of time so
they get even more spread thin and they start to
in their focus starts to disengage. Of course, like I said,

(46:02):
can't prove this, but you never know.

Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, that's very interesting.

Speaker 3 (46:10):
Yeah, yeah, that's just kind of my take on it.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
It's going to be a very difficult journey, especially if
you are reliant on our systems. If you're reliant on
our medical system, it's certain, you know, for certain medications,
if you have some conditions that require surgeries, if you
have conditions that require frequent doctor business. It can be

(46:37):
extremely difficult because we are starting to learn the anti
of our medical systems as well, and most people will
fight that to the end. They will still go to
their doctor and trust every word that comes out of
their mouth and pop every pill prescribed because their doctor

(46:58):
told them to do so, and we're supposed to trust
our doctors. This is one of the most difficult things
people have to face in our modern age, is that
our medical system, it's core and it's not benefiting finding
the pockets of parasites, and it's keeping people in a

(47:19):
perpetual state of healthiness so that they continue to rely
on that system. That's another difficult.

Speaker 3 (47:26):
One, it is, And this is what I will say
for those who still have big health issues. This is
what I would bring to the table as a solution
for you guys. Of course, do your research find out, uh,
you know, different natural remedies. So let me tell you this, guys,

(47:48):
your health is not hyper complex. You've only been conditioned
to think it is. And find natural remedies, earthmade remedies
to assist and help you. Good diet, clean diet. Okay,
that's going to help you be that's going to help
make it so that you can start to eventually break
away from this natural remedies, clean diet. I'm not saying

(48:11):
stop taking your medication, but one thing you need to
be aware of is the playing field of the medical
industrial complex. This is ultimately what's going to save you
from either getting worse in your health condition or deteriorating further.
Is understand that medical hexing is a very real thing.

(48:32):
I'm going to dive shortly into the place cebo and
the no cebo effects because I think this will kind
of give people a little bit of understanding. But we've
all heard of the placebo effect, right. It's one of
the biggest, biggest batches of hard evidence that our consciousness
creates reality. We can heal ourselves based on belief? Okay, so,
and then we have the no cebo effect, which is

(48:53):
we can harm ourselves based on belief. And the doctors
of the medical industrial complex, they are big on the
no sebo effect, and I think I don't think all
of them do it on purpose, but I think there
are some that do. I think there are some that
are in the know about it. And what the no

(49:14):
cebo effect is is it's medical hexing. And what they
are doing is they understand that your mental faculties interact
with your perceived physical experience and depending on your mindset
towards this medical treatment that you're going to, if a
doctor's like comes up to you and goes, well, unfortunately

(49:35):
we found this. You have only four months to live,
and you accept that in your mind. And one thing
I talked about on my show a lot is how
your mind is actually the hammer and the chisel that
creates your reality. You know your perspective is going to
count in that. So and if you take that into
your mind and you believe that you've just given yourself

(49:55):
that death sentence, you have so understand the playing field also,
so that you're going through and understand that these doctors
are trying to medically hect you, whether it's unintentional or intentional.
So that would be my solutions I can give to
people who still have big time health issues who are
starting to you know, understand that they want to break

(50:16):
away from this too, but are kind of in a
stuck position. Be aware of the playing field, do not
let the medically hect you. Clean up the diet as
much as possible, get on as many natural remedies as
you can.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
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Stephen any final thoughts words of wisdom.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Ultimately, guys, we're all in this strange, unknown and uncharted territory, Okay.
Community is what's going to help this. Understanding our true
nature and the true nature of this existence is going
to help this. Bringing love back into the equation is

(51:34):
going to help this. And it's like, these are, in
my eyes, very obvious answers that are right in front
of our faces. I know they might not be for
everybody just yet, but at least in my eyes, it's obvious.
And you know, maybe this is why, because when I
say this, a lot of people says it sounds hippie.
Maybe this is why the hippies were demonized back then,

(51:54):
you know, because maybe this is why there was such
a demonization on the hippies, is to make people look
away from that. And dude, you can be a base hippie.
You can be a hippie. That's based we exist, I
promise you. So that's ultimately what it is. Guys, love
your neighbors, you love yourself. Understand just because somebody thinks
differently from you, that they aren't a human being, they

(52:18):
are a human being. And this is the other thing
I'm gonna say as well, Man, all right, we need
to believe in true freedom. True freedom means that I
believe that you have the right to say whatever you want,
even if I don't agree with it, doesn't matter what
side or what narrative you are, and in turn that
other person should look at me and go I agree.

(52:39):
I think you should have the right to say whatever
you want to and have whatever opinion you want as well,
you know, even if I don't agree with it. And
that's true freedom. True freedom is not freedom for one side,
none for the other. And that's just something I want
everybody to keep in mind.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Don't be a dick.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Right well, thank you, Steven. Wonderful discussion. We'll be having
excellent weekend. We hope again to see some of you
out here, and until next time, everyone have an excellence.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
Okay again Toamara, take care everybody.

Speaker 1 (53:14):
The nature of this experience seems to always be just
beyond the reach of our science, technology, and consciousness collective.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
There's layers upon layers upon layers.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Does add such an element of mystery to this place.

Speaker 3 (53:29):
Why are we here?

Speaker 2 (53:30):
We're getting closer to the truth now.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
There's too many people experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.

Speaker 4 (53:38):
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
People are waking up paralyzed, their sensing or seeing something
very evil in the room.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.

Speaker 5 (54:00):
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
about these things.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
A upologist would say, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in
our paranormal research, which they.

Speaker 7 (54:18):
Don't have the ghost. Well what if it's all of
those things in none of those things, the entities, the
intelligence that were just beyond our understanding.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
There seems to be something a little extra that can
take forms of anything.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
a daily basis. We're definitely not alone. UFOs, UAPs, portals
opening up a live.

Speaker 8 (54:42):
With all this supernatural stuff.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
You kind of grow up with that. Around here.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
You see a lot of strange things. I don't like
to talk about skinwalkers too much.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

Speaker 8 (54:59):
People They were saying, we're transform into bears into wolves.
There's these bad things out that occur, goals, rfos and all.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Types of things coming from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our fears all seem to
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

Speaker 3 (55:19):
There is so much more that we just don't have
time for in this busy, loud, and noisy life that
we lead. All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.
There's so much more out there. We really are picking
up such a small, small percentage of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
The world is an amazing place.

Speaker 4 (55:37):
It feels like we're God's in training.

Speaker 7 (55:54):
We get a little tiny taste of this reality. We
tend to spin it in a way that causes the
least amount of existential harm to ourselves. So religious person
would see angels, and they would they would maybe find
comfort in that. A person that has anxiety about the
abduction phenomena may see aliens and would put a very
negative spin on that. And then a person who is

(56:16):
perhaps more secular might just think of it as an
interesting experience that not put a tremendous amount of value
on it at all. So our own biases, our own uh,
our own culture, our own optics really drive the experience.
And there's another.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
Theory that we actually project the experiences from ourselves, that
we're actually causing this thought form to manifest in a
way that's more agreeable on a positive or extremely terrifying
on the negative.

Speaker 4 (56:54):
One of Jocqueally's perspectives on this that he shared with
Jail and Heineke as well as sternce mkinda decided the
psychedel's into this part of the conversation because it's been
viewed from all of it. It is that this is
possibly a psycho semantic one and within that framework, it
calls back to what we talked about about the subjectivity
of this realm in general. Whatever this place is, it's

(57:14):
very personal to you. We could see this in the
form of synchronicities too, preferences and music, foods, things like this,
like this place is very tailored to you, and you
will gravitate towards the things that are calling you in
a direction of your mission based on just preferences that
you have. We could see how already your interpretation and

(57:34):
experience of this reality, even amongst the myriad of options,
is going to be radically different than anyone else, not
because it's different because you have the same things to choose,
but what you're attracted to, your experience of those things,
why you saw that versus this. These kind of things
are fascinating. They seem to play out in very radically

(57:55):
different scenarios based on the individual as well. Some people
say they had a fantastic time. These people all they
heal everyone, They let me drive the craft around. They
picked up a bunch of people from a volcano before
it exploded and saved all these people. They're here to
help us. They tell us that we should be taking
better care of the planet. And who knows if the
entities themselves were having a rough day. Who knows if

(58:16):
the person's interpretation of the experience is radically different than
what actually happened, but for whatever reason had a really
bad time with it and they get traumatized. There is
a difference between contact and abduction, and they are viewed
that way by the participant, by the occupant, and again
that's subjective in nature. You can either say that you're
being taken on a wonderful ride or that they stole

(58:38):
you and that you didn't want to go willingly. Who's
to say who's controlling that, because some people in the
community will say, then, well, you at a level decided
that this was the kind of contact that you wanted,
but you had to forget when you came here, and
you just need to trust that your soul made that agreement.
I have some challenges with that intellectually and emotionally for

(58:59):
me person. But there are some people who get by
just fine on that, and there are some people who
have had wonderful times after being contacted. The ability of
these entities to perception manage how you feel about an
experience with them.

Speaker 3 (59:15):
I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
The extraterrestrial alien abduction phenomenon has become much more acceptable
in our modern society, especially after the recent events surrounding UFOs,
like congressional hearings, mass media coverage, and even widely reported sightings.

Speaker 3 (59:36):
For weeks now, New Jersey resident has been played by
unexplained drones flying overhead.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
Dozens of reports of unauthorized drones flying in the skies.

Speaker 3 (59:45):
Unconfirmed reports of drone activity.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
We have no idea what it is. If it's a
natural phenomenon. At least four commercial pilots reported mysterious bright lights.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
Reports of small, parcized drones hovering over New York and
New Jersey.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
The government is actually like.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
The government knows what is happening. Something strange is going on.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
For some reason, they don't want to tell the people.

Speaker 1 (01:00:07):
There seems to be different sides of the UFO alien enigma.
What you see on TV, the news, and in movies,
and what people experience for themselves.

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