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David welcome back.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
How you doing, Yeah, thanks for having me back in
this bizarre world that we exist in, where things are
changing by the men at narratives by the hour, and
your life by the prices going up and up and
up that don't seem to be ending anytime soon.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Yeah, we live in a critical time. I believe in
our history.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
It is great to.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Talk to you again. We're overdue for some updates about
not only our earth and solar changes, but the chaos
like you were just speaking of that we've witnessed as
a society. I believe that, like I said, we're at
a critical point in our human history. The world we
used to know it will never exist again. I don't
believe the future is in some ways completely up to us,

(02:13):
but in some ways we just need to prepare for
some things that we can't change. Now, David, it's been
a while since you've been on. Could you remind the
audience a little bit just about yourself and what led
you down your path you're on.

Speaker 3 (02:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
I run the Adept twenty thirty channel in the many
Ice Age Conversations podcasts, and when I was buying coffee
and manmar I discussed and learned with the farmers over
there about cold weather crop losses in the coffee farms,
and for me that made no sense because it was
global warming, right, quote unquote. But then I was just
doing some research as a coffee buyer and looking out

(02:49):
to see can we get more supply for the next
five years. So I started having some in depth conversations
and the being quality was a little bit less for
roasters out there, you know what I mean. There was
gaps in the beans because the water froze and it
left these pockets in there. So you know, roaster's profiles
changed a lot of top lead damage, and then they
had to replace a lot of plantings because they froze

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in the fields. So then they've talked about how their
grandfathers are great grandfathers experienced something when the English were
trying to become and put that out as a cash
crop in Burma, that country that you know of back
in the eighteen hundreds. That sent me on that little
tiny quest to see, oh is it a cycle from
the eighteen hundreds in the late eighteen eighties, can is
it going to happen again? How long is it going
to be? And then I met John Casey started talking

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with a lot of other people. And then suddenly I realized, well,
we're in a cycle, a civilization shifting cycle here, and
that's why it makes sense why all these things are happening.
It's a natural cycle that is going to play itself
out anyway. And it seems like the elite are riding
on top of a natural cycle to whatever their end

(03:52):
means or their goal is, They're riding on top of
this to achieve that goal. This was going to happen
with or without them. Diminished food production and global crop
yields we're going to decline anyway, with or without fertilizer
shortages or global warming or whatever. The jet streams and
cloud cells are out of place because of the weakening
magnetosphere which is in base from the sun. Also the

(04:14):
changing magnetic fields and the strength of our sun. It's
a cycle. And if you were the elite and you
knew there would be declined or depleted or diminished crop
yields globally, then what would you do? What if you
knew there wouldn't be enough food for all the people
coming up right now in a natural cycle, then how
would you disguise it? How would you deflect it? How

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would you place blame, and then how would you create
the chaos and the economic devastation to bring in a
new monetary system because the old one's not going to work.
And once you start chasing down these dots and you
see how they do connect during this timeframe of this
cycle repeating this grand solar minimum that has reset society
every single time it appears. And that's why you see

(04:59):
a lot of boneh had moves. But if you look
at it from that perspective, it's not a bonehead move,
it's a continuity of government moves.

Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah, it just makes you wonder if a more belevolent
leaders and rulers were in place, would it be any different?
Would they have told us about this? There's so many
aspects that you just said that I want to break
down a bit though. First, last time when we talked,
which was right before the COVID agendas really started kicking
off hardcore, and you really prophetically stated that there will

(05:29):
be major changes in our society within a year or two,
and look at us now. But the thing is, did
you see the kind of speed that these agendas would
be rolling out. They're rolling out hard and fast. Since
twenty twenty it's like they are on some sort of
time crunch in a way. Did you think that this
would roll out as fast as it did?

Speaker 2 (05:52):
No, And I thought it would take place of a
full economic devastating crash like we're seeing now. I thought
that would be the thing to lock the planet. Because
let me step back for a second. Now, if you
trace back in history, and I've done a good bit
of research going back twenty four hundred years, and that's
the last six of these Grand Solar minimums. So if
we go back to say, four hundred BC onward, you

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can start to see this fingerprint, and these three things
happen every Grand Solar minimum. I call it the fingerprint
of the Grand Solar minimum. Population migration, economic reset, and
then government overthrow or the way that governments operate has
to change with the vibration frequency is going to be
different to so from a top down approach, the way
they're doing it now is just not going to work

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in the future as we step forward, because it never has.
And you'll notice the restruction of governance itself happens every
four hundred years along with new monetary systems that come
in play. And then the population has moved around and
right away when I saw their travel restrictions, I thought, Okay,
this is how they're going to stop the movement this time,
because you can't have a billion people going down to

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the equator when they know it's going to be cheap
down there, more food's going to grow there. People in
the West have a lot more money. They could easily
end up a billion people with different religion, different thoughts,
different beliefs, a lot more money, a lot more animosity
moving into a place and just overwhelm equatorial grow areas,
and then that would just cause trouble in itself. So

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you start to see a lot of these matchups. And
now we're coming into the economic phase, which I thought
was going to be the phase to lock the planet down,
but it was COVID still happening on the timeline. So
anybody out there that wants to know where the initial
end of our first timeline goes out of waves, there's
two waves. The first wave culminates in October of twenty
twenty four, So that'll give you some timeframe of how

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fast things need to march forward, change and more from
now to then. After that, whoever's left, and I do
say that seriously whoever lives through this and makes it
is going to experience another way. From say twenty twenty seven,
which is going to be really intense, twenty twenty eight
will be the deepest of it, and then from that
point forward things will start to more stabilize, and whatever

(08:05):
solidifies at that point governmentally, economically, societally will stick for
the next couple hundred years four hundred.

Speaker 1 (08:14):
Right, Well, you think this is this is cyclical within
a four hundred year cycle where we could be you know,
completely set reset as far as our government, our economics,
our monetary system, all of it.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
Absolutely, but it seems like it happens a little bit
faster on sort of a two hundred year cycle, where
these resets on the two hundred year and then we
get the massive four hundred year which is I mean
societal collapse in reset, and you start to see it.
You just wonder why nothing ever lasted from that? If
the structures of government were so good, and the money
was so good, and everything was so good, why is
it never lasted ever? And you know, I point back

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to the Chinese. You know, these dynasties were at the
apex of like we are now the apex of economy
and engineering and whatever you can possibly think of sciences
in medicine and all these things that we think we're
the top of. Every single society that's collapsed was the
top of its top. Also, why does it always collapse?
Was my whole thing. From the ancient cultures to the

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more moderns, say two thousand years prior Roman era, all
the way to now, everything always collapses. Why if it's
such perfection and moving and we are at the apex,
why would it ever collapse? And that's really the way
I started to look at a lot of these other questions.
You know, why do you think it collapsess? I mean,
I could ask you the same thing, Like, we go
through these ebbs and flows of history, and you've studied

(09:33):
the way a ton of history. You're spot on.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
It seems like we get to this pinnacle of technology
and kind of consciousness evolution, and then we start to
we see these something resets us. From what you're saying,
this is big, and it's huge, and it's every four
hundred years, and it would make sense how humanity has
amnesia over and over and we can't even get accurate

(09:58):
information about know our past from even a couple of
hundred years ago. Because our history has been rewritten so much.
I want to help the audience understand what exactly is
what happens in space, What is cosmically happening with our
sun that is causing this.

Speaker 2 (10:17):
We have to look at two different perceptions of what
our star is. Is it a fusion based atomical fire
engine up there and fire furnace, or is it powered
from an external source plasma and the plasma's sheath on

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the outside of our sun is what you're seeing blowing,
So what is it really? Are these burkling currents? These currents,
you know, think of an electrical line in the sky.
And here's the thing that blew my mind too when
I started to put this in perspective. You think the
electrical line in the sky, You think that the electricity
is on the inside running down that copper on the inside.

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That copper creates the magnetic field and the electric charge
runs on that on the outside of the wire. They're
delivering you the electricity. When you break that like sometimes
you'll see people cut it, well, that's everything flowing into
whatever handheld instrument you have. So when you're talking about
electro magnetic and it blew my mind that they only

(11:24):
create the magnetic field in the wire to let the
electricity run down that wire. They're not pushing it, They're
creating the magnetic field for it to move. That blew
my mind. They're not really sending electricity to you as
a push down a copper wire. The magnetic field's delivering
it to you. Now, once you put that in perspective,

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and then you can scale it up to the sun,
that whatever is flowing in these things called Burklin currents,
think of them as gigantic, you know, solar system size
current flows through plasma medium reaching our star. What seems
that in there there's an electrical heartbeat. Because you cannot

(12:08):
tell me with a straight face that the eleven years
solar cycle, when we go to solar maximum and solar
minimum on a regular eleven or eleven point eight year
it will be a little more exact. Your cycle goes
from flaring sunspots to absolute quiet for two years on
a regular heartbeat pattern, and it's an internally fired star
that just magically takes a break every eleven years. Okay,

(12:28):
we're we're not gonna fuse right now, We're gonna chill.
You can't tell me that, and then when you go
on longer term patterns, you can start to see ebbs
and flows of heat and cool. But then we'll take
it out to the ice age eras I'm only talking
about the last say twelve thousand years of the interglacial
or the Holocene era. You can see ebbs and flows
in there too. There's hot periods, there's cold periods, there's

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hot periods, there's cold periods. So what is causing that
on our sun to flicker in and out? And really,
what causes it to flicker out so much that we
go into ninety five years of ice compared to where
we sit today, where I have green grass and elderberry
trees and current plants grown in our front yard. Out here,
we're going to be covered in ice down here? What

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changes that? What causes it can only be electromagnetic. And
this is the whole thing once you start to look
at this and frame it in that reference of something
else is powering our star. It's electrical. It has a
frequency to it, and it has a mappable frequency when
you're looking at different wave frequencies. It forms inside sound.
We can use acoustics because we're both talking. You can

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see our voice patterns. When you measure you know, in science,
when it starts to measure electricity, you'll start to see
what do you think that EKG is in people's hospital rooms?
And when we talk about virus, we can talk about hospitals. Okay,
you got your heart plugged up to something. What's it doing.
It's making that frequency when your heart beats, and when

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it beats, excuse me, it makes the beat. Think about
our son with a heart beat also, but externally like
your house is externally powered. Our sun, I do believe,
is on a Brooklyn current flow. I think all the
stars are always connected between these filamentary ropes that are

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twisting in on themselves, so they called it field aligne currents.
Will these positive negative current flows come into the stars
and then the local solar system has also affected the planets.
So there's a lot of unanswered questions. And once you
frame it into we know we're going into a low
activity which is going to diminish the amount of food

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grown on the planet. And I'm going to roll back
into the same thing again. But you know what happened
in history that we lost history. We lose history so
much it's heart, you know, and me doing the research,
I found it so incredibly difficult to find anything prior
to eight hundred AD that was very solid in terms
of anything. You know, there was billions of people that

(14:56):
had lived from that time. From let's say the year
zero until the year eight hundred, there were more than
a billion people that came into this world and died,
and we still have no barely any records. And go
further back, it's like, oh, here's a piece of rock,
let's fill in the rest, and you know, your channel
sums it up perfectly. Forbidden knowledge, news and forbidden knowledge

(15:17):
is where we sit with this Berklin currents. Because the
same thing we could power our devices from the ether
itself without having to use electrical wires. We could be
using the same thing Tesla and Marconi, doctor Brown many
others had pushed into on, you know, powering something from
that same current flow that exists around us in all space.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Now it makes me wonder how far back these elites,
these these these these individuals that think they control the
planet have known about this and have been kind of
surviving these cycles and then restarting civilization under false history,
false information, just to keep us in that same darkness

(16:01):
that they've kept us for maybe thousands of years because
they've been the ones in control. They've been the ones
knowing these cycles are occurring, and they may come out
of it on the other end a little better than
everyone else because they've been better prepared for it. What
do you think about that? And how far back do
you think these multi generational bloodlines you could say have

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been in control of this.

Speaker 2 (16:27):
Thirty five hundred years at the minimum. Now you have
to understand what is happening with continuity of government and
how that affects our food prices and rail deliveries and
barges that have gone missing, and a lot of things
in the supply chain breakdown. This narrative is the supply
chain breakdown? Is it not? All things aren't delivered here,

(16:47):
nothing's running on time, ships are here, all things are off,
Factories are closing. Or you could look at it as
these elite that had the same amount of power are
still pumping it out. But when you lose twenty five
percent of all the rail carriages across the United States,
where did they go? North America just lost twenty five
percent of its railcars. For me, that's they're being packed

(17:11):
up and sent underground? What happened all the shipping containers?
What hapag Lloyd had to order one point five million
new forty foot or fifty three foot shipping containers. Where
does a million and a half shipping containers go. You
can't tell me that they're all sitting on boats waiting
to offload on China. That's a great excuse. But a
million and a half containers packed full of essentials, like

(17:36):
anything that could repair electrical equipment. How about new what
do you say, capacitors, transistors, anything larger that we get
out to move electricity across cities, transformers. So can you
imagine the continuity of government if you really knew the
cycle is here, and you controlled all industry and all
banking like it is now, there's just a few families
that control all of it, and everybody else steps in line.

(17:57):
It's like they're trying to appease an entity. Is really
in my opinion, they're trying to appease the entity that
they worship, trying to appease it whatever it is that
everybody flows in, and now all the resources are directed
toward that continuity of I'm not even going to say government.
I'm gonna say continuity of entity or continuity of family money,
whatever it is, that this force that drives these groups

(18:20):
of people. So don't believe the supply chains have just
broken down because of COVID. That's a great excuse, but
I think a lot of it's being packed up. And
here's my last thing, Chris, like the Chicago Mercantile Exchange,
talk about this in a second. They are not going
to be able to deliver for their corn contracts this
year because the pledged deliveries are I want it for sure,

(18:43):
is the record most in history and it actually exceeds
the amount of corn that they have that they can
get this year. Because you know, paper trades can go
way deeper than actual physical This is where they're going
to get bitt in the butt because they got so
much paper out there on corn contracts. But now a
huge amount of the papers is going to turn into
physical Like whoa that one hundred to one that just
broke the bank. But here's the thing. If you take delivery,

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you're gonna want to get it on flat barges and
try to get it down the Mississippi through the lock
system to take it out into a loading terminals. Saint
louis for example, a whole bunch of loading terminals down
the Mississippi. They don't have to go down to Louisiana,
but there's a barge traffic. There's a barge shortage too,
And I'm like, how can there be a barge shortage? Dude?
It's a square thing that floats on there. Is it
really that difficult to build more square things that float

(19:29):
on the water that don't even have motors you push
them with a tug, Like, how difficult it is a
middle square thing? I really these things baffle me.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
Here. When I grew up in South Louisiana, near near
the ports and near New Orleans, and there was a
ridiculous amount of bar Like I don't think we could
have ever run out of the barges just in that
area of Louisiana alone. I mean, you know, I'd walked
down like streets or drive down roads and see miles
and miles and miles of just barges. So that to
me is extremely ridiculous. It's like creating an a illusion of

(20:00):
scarcity so that they can pretty much come out on
top and have everything they need and you know, screw us.

Speaker 2 (20:09):
See that's how they retain the power because if you
were able to have a full work in society at
least at the level where we are now, and you
were able to maintain that by stockpiling everything of the
apex of the society to bring you through and kept
all the advances of what's not public yet, probably thirty
fifty years in advance, and you put all that underground,
and then you just waited and you emerged again. You

(20:31):
would still be the top pinnacle families and the top
pinnacle elite, just you're re emerging as a full functional
society and the rest of everybody got set back fifty
years into more of an Aggregirian say, pioneering lifestyle. And
these guys are popping out with the you know, electro
of Agrivitix weightless craft and like you will worship us now, you.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Know, yeah, at the level that we're seeing the changes
occur since twenty twenty ten. Now, I mean, just look
at how gas prices just a perfect example of the
changes that we've seen since then. And it's I don't
see it ever going back down. I don't see how
anything we're doing right now can be sustainable. And it

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makes me wonder how much longer until we're just you know,
in complete mad max territory where people can't afford food
or water or shelter anymore, and it's every man and
women for themselves.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
October of this year.

Speaker 1 (21:28):
That's pretty close.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Yeah, I know, that's what I'm saying. We kind of
run out of time here. I'm not going to say
you have run out of time, but it's dangerously close.
So let me let me push it out for you.
This is exactly I've been talking about this on my timelines. See,
I was talking about the fertilizer shortages wreaking havoc on
the markets and the ability to grow food. Like you know,
last year, before the fertilizer shortage has even spoken of here,

(21:50):
c c IF industries had come clean clean and let
their information out that there was going to be a
massive fertilizer shortage this year in twenty twenty two. So,
you know, I took a bunch of reports and you know,
you just add a little number here in a couple
percent there, and it came out to about twenty let's
just call it an even twenty percent of all fertilizer
not going to be around in the world. Well, then
we get into with all these droughts and we have

(22:11):
all these you know, semi war things going on, and
then suddenly the Ukraine happened, and then you're like, well,
thirty percent of the world's exupportable grains just disappeared. Well wait,
then we also need to add in the fertilizer shortage
is what that was going to knock off the grain yields?
And then we have all this resource nationalism, and that's
that's set a And you can just digest on that
all you want. On if you lose thirty five percent

(22:33):
of the world's corn this year that's not going to
come out of the ground or not be delivered, then
what's that going to do for the prices of everything
in supermarkets and feed and all this. But then you
swing right over and go, oh, we're about to lose
the percent of the world's wheat this year too. Now
that's not export embargers from the Black Sea and everything.
We're strictly talking about the amount of wheat not going
to be grown because of the fertilizers that are not

(22:54):
being delivered. And it really amplified in this whole outages
and ammonia producer fires.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
And how many found in the processing plants have been
set on fire to this year, I mean, come on,
this is this has become ridiculously obvious what they're doing.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
All the things to produce the fertilizer went down to
It's not like there was just a fertilizer shortage. All
the base constituents in those refineries and things they need
to pull the ammonium, get the natural gas and all
these things. They just went down all at once. So
there's really been very little fertilizer production even since everybody's
screaming fertilizer production or fertilizer shortage. So where we're going

(23:34):
to come to next is going to be the crop tours,
and through this July next month, at the end of
July into the first week of August, they're going to
come out I wouldn't say final, but they're getting a
real good indication on if it's going to be good,
very good, bad, or you know, horrible quality in the fields.
We're already looking at some ridiculous numbers of like of

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just bad quality that's never going to emerge into much.
So once the crop tours are finished and they come
out with these dismal numbers and then Europe is just
they're losing an enormous amount of their crops too, from
the windstorms, the droughts, the hailstorms, the embargoes and all
these things it self. Embargos from the Ukraine. They don't

(24:16):
have enough natural gas to even you know, run factories
at the moment, Like how are they going to have
enough diesel to go harvest the fields. It's just not
happening in Europe. They're even worse off than we are.
South America is going to have a huge amount of
ash from the Tonga eruption, which is going to disrupt
agriculture for another full year down there. They're going to
have a mini year without of summer like it was
after the Tambora eruption, but mainly focused in the southern hemisphere,

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so they're not going to be able to grow really
a lot to save the day from the northern hemisphere shortages.
Now that all comes to roost in September when the
first deliveries of corn and wheat are out on the
Chicago Board of Exchange. But then once they're not going
to be able to deliver and they can't call force
masure and whatever. This to be a whole amount of

(25:02):
things we've never seen happen in financial markets before ever happen.
It's really going to hit at December delivery because they're
all going to be like, gim me a corn, and
remember every day that the clearing houses don't deliver and
they still have their contract open, they're getting fined by
the day. And the farmers that can't deliver on their
contract grow either because maybe they were too much rain,
too much drought. They couldn't get like, let's say a

(25:26):
thousand tons of corn and they can only get eight hundred,
but they pledge a thousand, their contact is still open
and they get fined by the day as a farm
not delivering. So whoever's out there is going to be
trying to buy it and bid it up at any
price to get it so they can close their contract.
And they're going to watch banks just go out, left,
right and center as this happens, because the clearing houses

(25:46):
are subsidiaries of other banks, and this is where it's
going to get nasty at the end with the economic thing.
So I was just seeing today that Bank of England
had done their bail in protocol run today and that's
where we sit. So you know, as we come into October,
there is now was trying to explain that is you

(26:06):
have you're gonna feel it? Right then?

Speaker 1 (26:10):
Wow, that's incredible. Now speaking of things that we're gonna
witness and feel and see, it's not just gonna be
our social and economic and food shortages, but we're going
to see some pretty crazy shit happening in the sky.
Cosmic changes, the sun changes. I mean, well, I remember
growing up the sun was orange, The sun was you know,
and then pretty yellow. But now it's like a fluorescent

(26:31):
white light bulb up there. I don't know what the
neck you said. I think you said it's gonna turn
blue necks, which is insane. We have a hear you
talk about a second magnetic field. I know our magnetic
field is rapidly moving towards Siberia at or ridiculous rate,
and we may experience a magnetic shit, a poll shift
of some sort. So what do we have to look
forward to when it comes to some of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Again? October of twenty twenty four. I'm gonna do you
mind if I take it at a level deep on
the wu wu here.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Yeah, sure, of course, as we're all about.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
All right, excellent if anybody has, say, orbital geometry software
where you can see where the planets are going to move.
Here's a good one for Everybody's a free one. It's
called Solar System Scope, and you just go into your
browser and put solar systemscope dot com and it'll bring
you up to this run model where you can zoom

(27:27):
your planets around. Now, if you come up into October
of twenty twenty four, I think it's around like October
twenty third, twenty second, somewhere around there, the planet's line up,
so they're in the perfect square in the outer Solar System.
But then when you come into the inner Solar System,
where we sit with the Earth and Venus and Mercury
in the sun, it looks like the Kabba Lah in

(27:47):
the sky. It's squared. And then we got the line
and everything's sitting on the line. So, as I've heard,
the elites are waiting for this particular solar alignment, this
celestial alignment, to be able to enact some of their
spells or whatnot. But they've been waiting for this for
thousands of years, because the last time this exact geometry
we're going to see here in October is from seventy

(28:10):
nine eight D seventy nine a D. That is the
last time that this geometry occurred in our sky. So
it makes sense to me why the elite were riding
and waiting for this next solo. You know, this celestial
alignment to come in. This is it, This is exactly
what it is October of twenty twenty four. They're waiting
for that same alignment. And then I started looking at
it and going, whoa, it does look like the Kabbalah

(28:31):
in the sky. And I was going, whoa, something deep
is happening here. And that's kind of where my research
leaves me today. But we are going to see plasma
displays in the sky. So you know, perhaps I'm just saying, perhaps,
you know, we've all heard a project Blue Beam. Perhaps
that is a way to deflect one. When you really
see plasma displays in the sky, you'll go, oh, that's

(28:53):
Project Blue Beam, instead of going, no, that is our
Earth's atmosphere that is more highly charged electrically that that
plasma can hold state up there for eight ten twenty
seconds and look like something that jumped off a canyon
wall and Choco canyons or the desert southwest, Oh No,
it's Project Bluebean. Don't worry about it. Go back to sleep.
It's not a plasmis. Our skies are just fine. Ours

(29:17):
amosphere did not compress thirty miles in these last six months.
It did not do that. It's just fine. Go back
to work, pay your taxes, obey the rule of law,
and remember to invest in your for our own Kay, Chris,
night night.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
Yeah for sure, man and whatever.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
That's exactly what they're trying to do.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Yes, exactly. What is some of the extent of not
only things that we might see in the sky, but
you mentioned volcanoes might be going off for earthquakes, things
of that nature. How you know how bad are these
changes actually going to get?

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Technology wise? All of our infrastructure rides on the surface
of our crust, and as we get closer to this
October twenty twenty four celestial lineup, those four gas giants
are gonna also have some magnetic field tug that hasn't
been here for almost two thousand years. And our sun

(30:12):
is stepping down. And when I say that, let's even
talk about the top one mile of the crust, you're
going to start to see things that don't make sense.
All these train derailments are like, oh, it's the tracks slipped.
The earth crust actually moved and the tracks rifted. You
see how many bridges are being pulled out of the banks.
You see roadways that are just slid away for no reason.

(30:32):
There's some farmer fields in Minnesota that uplifted thirty feet.
These are the comm of events that you're looking for.
Because the pipelines, the water pipes, oil pipes, natural gas pipes,
even diesel fuel and distillates and different types of refined
product pipelines that get moved through def for example, the

(30:53):
fiber optic conduits, anything that can deliver fiber optic. We
have the electrical conduits. SE's under there, and then we
have of you know, anything that is in the crust
is going to be affected, be pulled apart. You know
how many electrical fires.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
You know?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
What's another thing is interesting is how many electrical fires
have we seen in places beyond what is just for food, Like,
there's been a lot of fires in other places. Now,
just I'm going to be Devil's advocate here for a second.
If the earth were to rift and pull those electric
conduits away and snap them and pull them and have
live arcing wires. Still, if that were able to spread

(31:30):
through and then arc and then charge something else and
cause sparks and hit it off and cause a fire
in other places. These are the kind of strangest that
you would expect as things rift. Well, what if something
rifted in a natural gas pipeline got pulled apart and
something else next to it or near it running electrical
was also arcing, and then boom, then you have a
fire in there. From all natural causes, nothing nefarious, but

(31:55):
these food plants are something definitely looking nefarious. I'm talking.
There's so many industrial accidents happening, and again they come
back and they blame it on not enough staff because
of COVID. Well, you can't tell me not enough staff
because of COVID. And we have had two rail lines
riffed out from under trains. One was the fertilizer train
up in Canada and the other one was this the

(32:16):
coal train that just fell off the tracks magically, two
instances within a few hundred miles of each other of
that same phenomenon. And if you look electrically where some
of these like halo events are in the sky, and
if you trace them down onto the ground, you start,
you can start to see lines of where these electrical
things are happening in our crust. And I'm trying to
use I software and map these events out and get

(32:38):
a better indication of Okay, here's the ridge of electrical
lining running through the crust. So you could expect crop
disruptions here because local weather events are going to be
more amplified as there's more electrical charge in those areas.
So that's kind of where my research is, you know,
along with the geometry of the planets. So my mind's
already kind of going off to see and map this
stuff out now and you can get a real good

(32:59):
indication where it's going to happen first, and you know,
look for the events. But crystal anomalies is going to
be the big thing. Not a lot of people are
talking about either.

Speaker 1 (33:09):
Yeah, yeah, that's I've seen. Have you seen some stuff
in the ground, Yeah, you know, places opening wide up. Yeah, man,
I've seen that for a long time. It's happening all over.
Let's talk about the go back to the sun for
a minute. How I mentioned it's different colors. What is
going on with that and what is going to be

(33:29):
the end result? How you know what kind of changes
are our son going.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
Through right now? This is where I'm kind of I
don't have some answers, but I have some ideas. So
John Casey, if you go to his book Dark Winter
the Original what not? You have to go way back
to Dark Winter the Original on the book cover on
there he has a blue sun. So if you're looking
at in the different angstrom wave links, if you if

(33:54):
you and again if you go red orange, yellow, blue, green, indigo, violet.
So if you change that Roy GBB, like in the
light spectrum red orange, yellow, you reference blue. Now we
could be in that phase state change between colors because
it almost could be yellow, but it's trying to hold
and move into the blue. But it's white for just
that second before it snaps in. But for us from humans,

(34:17):
we're looking at it and you know, it seems like
a long time then it's been holding white up there.
Well in a cosmic age, I mean that's so fast
in a blinking eye, it's almost like a stoplight changing
where it's eh, it's yellow, it's white. Oh they're blue.
You know, it's just that instant because if you look,
you know, sometimes colors before they change, they just get
to that white before they snap into the newest color

(34:37):
they're going to take on the spectral range there. So
that's what I would say with that the reason John
Casey's book. And then also if you're going to step
it down, if we're coming into a cooler age, we're
at the end of the interglacial, you would expect, and
I'm not saying maybe in our lifetime, but you would
expect the trend would be toward a less active sun
bringing us into the next ice age. And as that

(34:58):
would happen, you know, there's many, many, many legend up
there talking about the sun even being green again, red, orange, yellow, blue, green,
So that was even one step down for where the
blue would be. Then they talk about how the sun is, yeah,
and then it's almost like a dark ember up in
the sky. I guess that dim at times in our
ice ages, something's firing that star eternal externally to get

(35:23):
it to glow back up or go into a low
activity state. Now it's heartbeats ninety thousand years now.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
I would imagine with all these changes that that's occurring
on the Sun, we would have other things, other effects
that we might have to worry about, such as like
solar flares or CMEs. I don't know, what do you
think about that?

Speaker 2 (35:43):
How many distractions are out in the world right now?
Done the more intense this is getting that you're gonna notice,
the more distractions they'll be thrown at you. So it
seems I don't know. So maybe i'll ask you, Chris Night,
when you're watching the news, do you remember when that
kind of big story would be on for a week
or so or two and then it would go off.
But now it seems like we get a big story

(36:03):
twice a day. I don't know. Maybe I'm reading the
news too much.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Oh man, Well, I try to stay away from it,
but you're right, you're absolutely right. Being in what I do,
I can't avoid hearing about everything that's happening. And the
world is definitely a stage, my friend.

Speaker 2 (36:18):
Yeah, because you're going to notice these things, and since
you're noticing it, you're going to get angry about it,
and if enough people notice at the same time start
to organize. That's the danger for the elite. And this
last crucial moments to prepare before the chaos unfolds and
things around available truly, because on the surface, here'll just
speak mad Max like you say, so, they're going to

(36:39):
get all prepped down beyunder or wherever know off earth?
Who knows elysium, you know that floating thing. There's a
lot of things possible, but a majority of elite population
is going to skid outle here and get out of
the way for next thirty years until this thing moves
through its cycle and bounces back enough where things are

(37:01):
considered stable enough for governments to reform, in economies to reform.
During this time, everything is going to de evolve or
dissolve into We never were going back to normal anyway.
That was a lie to get people to do things
with their bodies. That was such a lie. You could
see through that that you closed every business that you
thought everything was going to bounce back. Governments told people, yeah,

(37:23):
I get more airbnbs, Flights are going to be cheaper,
do I work from home. Everything's autonomous, everything's online, ay,
digital nomads everywhere. Hey, And then all of a sudden
they knocked that out at the knees, like what oh yeah,
but everybody that had ten airbnbs that's completely underwater had
to just sell everything and they're walking around to the
backpack homeless. Now it's just going to go start magically

(37:43):
back and having ten airbnbs and your flights are going
to rock back when there's no pilots. Now, that was
such a fallacy that they were going to bring back
to normal. That was such a talking point. So here
we are in the abnormal, which is the normal, and
it's going to get more bizarre as we move forward
with the electric and one other thing here, people are

(38:06):
going to start to behave strangely. Now, I don't mean
you're already seeing it right, you're seeing it, But as
the electromagnetic field from the sun change is the magnetic
hemispheres of people's brains are going to change in sync
with that. So the perception maybe they'll have more people going, ah,
there's something right there and you can't see it. Well,

(38:26):
they are in that frequency now that they can, and
they're starting to perceive reality in a different way, shape
and form. So the top down pyramid structure that we've
had for what the last five hundred or eight hundred
years strong, of that top down I would say fit
fourteen hundreds, that's not going to work anymore in a
new vibratory pattern, So that needs to dissolve as well.
So that's why people are seeing through the illusions so

(38:47):
quickly because our vibration state is moving up higher as
we enter into this stage. But the old, heavier and
i should say denser iron energies that have kept humanity
down for such a long time are stillyvibrating at that
heavy density iron energies that are very slow and dark
and heavy where you know, the sun's moving faster with

(39:08):
this vibration and humanity is picking up on that and
we're starting to vibrate a little faster. That's why there's
a lot of people questioning a lot of things. And
as we move forward, the leader are going to have
more trouble keeping everybody in check because our brains are
going to start to behave differently. And as an elite power,
how would you try to distract during this time and

(39:28):
stop people from organizing?

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Yeah, yeah, we see this mass awakening happen, and that's
what gives me a little bits of hope that we
may be able to, you know, not prevent what's cosmically happening,
but you know, see through the facade of everything and
prepare ourselves and maybe start to have our own sustainable
systems to where if the system crashes. Maybe we'll have

(39:54):
a little something left over after the end. That's what
I'm hopeful for. But you're talking about the kind of
crazy changes that people are going to start having amongst
their consciousness. The Earth is, I believe, you know, alive,
a living thing, and we see the human resonance is
like it's heartbeat, and that has been erradically changing for years.

(40:17):
And I see the you know, the inner Earth and
the core kind of like the veins of the Earth.
There's also I've heard that researchers say that the core
is expanding at this point too, which would also trigger
more earthquakes and volcanic activity.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Is that right now? I can't attest for the core
data and research, but I will say there's a very
strong correlation above ninety percent of these really weak solar
magnetic field events on the decade level or longer, and
the match up with VII six eruptions, VII seven eruptions

(40:55):
and megaquakes. You got to think about it's magnetism, and
you know our Earth has been held really tight. Think
about how two magnets were squeezed together really tight, and
then suddenly one of the magnets let's go, well, the
other one's going to slip. That's the same with what's
happening with our crust. If you look at the different
layers from when you consider the atmosphere or the crust,

(41:17):
which is negatively charged. You know, if there's a differential
in that charge and there's some change, then something has
to equalize. Something's going to equalize. Now, it could be
a discharge ground to sky lightning, it could be tectonic movements,
it could be pressure release off of the crust in
a volcano. But whatever happened, again all comes back to

(41:37):
that same thing, electromagnetism. And when that structure changes, of
things that have been locked in place or staying locked
in place, when they get loose, you start to see
all these effects again. And I'm just wondering, what's next,
What's the next large thing that's going to disrupt humanity.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Well, we've we've seen all the agendas play out so far.
You have you know, COVID and Ukraine and false flag operations,
stage events, shootings, monkey pocks, and now food shortages. So
it's gonna you know, we we're gonna see another agenda.

(42:21):
They're not just gonna stop. I'm surprised that we're not
seeing more of the the COVID and in VAX's nonsense.
They spent a lot of time and money and effort
to try and get people injected with those experiments. So
I don't know if that's gonna just go by the
wayside or what. But we always have something else to
look forward to with this one thing I do. I

(42:41):
had a question for you about is what they're spraying
in the sky and the purpose. I've had other researchers
on that believe that have different different opinions on what's
going on, But one of the things that makes sense
to me is that they're trying to shield the amount
of radiation coming in from the planet by by spring

(43:01):
these aluminum particulates or and whatever else their spring. But
I want to get your take on that, and you
know what you think that they're doing up there with
these aerosol injections.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
You know. I had a chance to talk with Jim
Lee for a while on Jim for He's coming on
next week. Oh yeah, great. He is well. The depth
and breadth of knowledge that he contains wow in and out,
up and down. By far the premiere leading researching expert
on this aerosol jew engineering on the planet. You know,

(43:34):
Wiggington's should be just a protege of gems. That's how
high he levels above anything Dane's doing. Yeah, Dane's got
a lot of research, but the way that Jim looks
at it, it's a completely different way to analyze the information.
So if you're gonna anybody's gonna stick around for one,
you definitely want to watch Jim Lee from Climate Viewer,

(43:55):
that's the one you want to watch. So he and
I had talked, and you know, we agree on a
lot of the things with the you know, bond, strong
tim barrier, aluminum, et cetera. Now, the one thing I
was bringing to the table was because of this increase
in cosmic radiation what you're talking about particulates. Morpheus code

(44:16):
name or pen name wrote an article this is way
back in like twenty sixteen, talking about stratospheric geo engineering
being a cover for cosmic radiation management. Because he goes
into it, you know, you got choice A or B.
You can you know say that, hey, there's spraying this guy.
They're trying to dim the earth. That goes along with

(44:37):
Bill Gates's whole thing, and they're going to dim the Earth,
they're going to try to stop global warming. Okay, that's
you got to sell that to the public. A B is,
by the way, all these changes that David's talking about,
these four hundred year cycles, and John Casey and all
these other researchers out there that have been saying Grand
sol their minimum massive changes on a four hundred year
or a two thousand year cycle, there's going to be

(45:00):
be a huge changes with the amount of radiation reaching
the planet. And if we spray this stuff up there,
whenever a cosmic ray hits that, it loses its charge.
If we don't spray it, those cosmic rays are gonna
come cascading down through the atmosphere and cost seven x
more rain on our planet. The amount of clouds that
would be built will be seven x more than if

(45:22):
we don't spray that up there, and we're gonna have
biblical floods once in a thousand year flood, every single storm,
to the point we're going to get a cloud planet.
And this is where it takes me into I wonder
what happens after we get to that albedo effect where
the Sun steps down. We're in a cloud based planet
because of so many cosmic rays entering our atmosphere, then
what kind of runaway does that take us to? But

(45:43):
keep going and paying your taxes and obey the rule
of law. See, you know, having mothers organize against you know,
spraying in the skies is one thing, but having come
and clean with the populas, like we need to do
this to mitigate cosmic rays and the Sun's stepping down,
And then you open up the whole can of worms
for free power off the ether, and you know that

(46:06):
you can see where that was going to go already,
they definitely did not come clean. And I'm going to
say I'll agree with that. It's for sure cosmic radiation management.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
Now, you just kind of mentioned what I wanted to
get into, the next to free energy aspects and possibilities
that you're talking about. If the Sun indeed has these
electromagnetic filaments, that could you know, basically power anything on
our planet. Right and the fact that they probably already
knew this, knew this for a long time, and keep

(46:37):
the free energy from us because we would be we
would need them, We wouldn't need Daddy government and everything
that they're trying to provide for us if we had this.
Now is this. Could you explain a little bit about
the possibilities of this and how it would basically create
some sort of free energy for us.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
This state of matter exists around us. Ninety nine point
nine nine nine percent of all the universe itself is plasma.
This is in state. What you think is space between
planets is full. This what you would consider space between

(47:20):
ourselves or you in an object, is gas atoms. There's
no disconnect in that electrical field from me to this wall.
My atom off my skin connects to that H two
O atom or that nitrogen atom or whatever it is
that connects to the next one to create air, and
I am connected to that wall literally through energy. And

(47:41):
same with that space between people. There's no space there.
It's elect it's atoms that are vibrating faster that you
can't see them. So you're still in the energy field
completely and wholly, never disconnected from it. When I'll take
it another step up larger, where that Sun and all
of our planets are in a plasma field, not disconnected

(48:02):
from it, but in it. Holly, so our earth is that,
like you know, we're looking through vibrating quick atoms for gases.
We're looking through what looks like empty space between planets,
but they exist in a plasma field. They're not disconnected either.
And once you start to understand the principle of that
plasma that they called it. The ether is the older

(48:24):
name for it, that energy state, the base state for it.
Recently in quantum physics they started to call it like cubits,
that energy layer that connects all and things that build
off of that. We are not disconnected from. It connects
every fiber of every possible inch of our entire universe

(48:44):
here in this third dimensional space. There's nothing that doesn't
exist within that. And once you start to get it
that we're immersed in it that were never disconnected from it.
In the consciousness of God as well, we're immersed in it.
We never disconnect from that. We're talking about physical vibrating
energy versus a consciousness, thought and vibration of light and love.

(49:06):
They're similar but not disconnected. They still intertwine through all
time and space here. But the thing is that ether
is around us and is a vibratory pattern that would
allow you to draw that directly from the atmosphere and
harness that at source in your house, on the top
of buildings. You could draw it in, but there's no

(49:29):
money in that, there's no profit. You never have to work,
you never have to pay bills. Once it's installed, you're free.
You're never on the teep of the government ever. You
always have free, limitless power. You never have to work
for energy or you know, and then you start taking
the next stuff up to waitless travel. It's about pulling
what is already innately around us, always has been, always

(49:52):
will be. We're never disconnected and that is the true
power source of the universe. Well, we could tap into,
but we choose to burn dust from the Earth's crust.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Wow, there's so many layers of deceptions and distractions to
keep us from, like you just said, not having to
suck off the teet of the government, not having to
rely on them for everything that we need, when we
could be self sufficient and we already have everything we need,
we just don't know it yet. So I think that

(50:30):
this is a critical time in human history to where
if we do come out on the other side of this,
maybe it's our time to have access to this knowledge
and these abilities and these things, and maybe we can
kick those elites the hell out of here.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
I don't know. Yeah, but what do you think, how
do you think life would be different if we did
not have to pay for just energy? Forget the food,
we didn't have to pay for energy. How would everybody's
life be different? Do you think just that one aspect?

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Yeah, it'd be completely different. I mean, like you said,
we wouldn't have to worry about it. We would just
be able to go about our lives and do the
things that we need to survive and live and be
productive and happy human beings. And that's all we need,
they think. You know, of course we need TV and
social media and vehicles and all this other stuff to

(51:20):
be functioning humans. But you know, once we realize that
all we need is, you know, just to exist here,
and that's why all we ever needed, that's the biggest
threat to them. I think now you said that they
might be planning on going underground or maybe even off planet.
How sustainable is underground if this indeed gets as bad

(51:40):
as we think it's going to get, well.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
It depends on how far underground you're talking about here.
You know what we're talking about in the crustal anomalies
and this sort of thing several miles down. But if
you went three hundred miles down into the crust, that's
a whole different story. Nothing touches you there. So even
if you had like ten point zero earthquakes up here,

(52:05):
three hundred miles down, now you're not going to You
might feel some minor rumbles here or there coming through
on a wave pattern. But otherwise, if you were two
miles under the earth and that were to happen, yeah
you get cave ins and probably not make it out.
But we really need to talk about depth because you know,
again come back to legends and stories and reports and

(52:26):
accounts and everything. You go back as far as you
can go back in human recorded history, and they talk
about the depths of the earth being hollow in different
societies and civilizations living down there, and light sources and
food sources, so deep down underground, and it's a repeat
and rinse and repeat. And I don't care if you're
up in the Himalaya, or you're in remote Himalay or

(52:48):
remote South American rainforest way out in the middle of
the Amazon, or you're somewhere down in Australia or wherever
you are. And those people were supposedly disconnected for fifty
thousand years or one hundred thousand years and we only
ever came together in the last seven hundred by boats
or something. They all have the exact same stories, exactly

(53:10):
the same stories. So for me, you know, I start
to look at these ancient accounts of where people win,
how did they hide, where do they survive cataclysms, who
emerged after the cataclysms, and then where did they come from?
And that always seem to have the similar vein of
the emergency underground reemergence, walking for weeks and weeks and
weeks to get to places underground, and then they come

(53:32):
out into this civilization that's been there for a million years,
and then it never has had any tumultuous weather events
cosmic bombardments, earthquakes, or volcanoes to disrupt its progression of
whatever it was built. But I find it so interesting
that through history for the last at least eight thousand years,
the stories are all the same, all the same. So

(53:56):
where would they go? And you know, I think there
is some truth to some of the movies that you're seeing.
And Elysium was a really good one about off world,
well I should say upper atmosphere for our Earth, of
something in orbit up there, you know, it was an
elite palace that was orbiting you know, where there was
no crime and it was multi billion dollar houses up

(54:18):
there and you could only get to it by spacecraft, right,
something similar perhaps. And then there was another really good
movie that I'd encourage everybody to watch called Jupiter Sending Yeah,
and was about you know, Jupiter being the home base
and the Earth being a farm which was used to
extract minerals. And they set up the society with overseers,

(54:40):
gave people wealth so to keep them productive in extracting minerals.
And that was all taken off Earth. So you know,
where do we sit in there? Somewhere lies the truth.
Same with Star Wars. Somewhere lies the truth. Oh.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I completely agree that they show us so much of
our reality in movies, mainly to get us to dismiss
it that it's not reality. But you know, there's probably
many other reasons why they're actually including in disiness, and
you know, one of them, I think that maybe it's
a sort of warning or you know, nod to what

(55:17):
really is going on in our reality. Now for the
last few minutes that we have, David, what do you
think is the safest places that will be besides underground
or off planet, on on on our planet right now
or in the near future.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Well, you know, you have to say, there's a whole
range of things to think about, population density near you,
resources that could help you grow food, people around you
that are a black mind, and say moral values and
common sense. And then the actual physical location has it
survived through some of these cooler periods, and then the

(55:57):
government will earn arrest itself, like what an army suite
through there. So when you start to getting these different
layers of threat analysis and possibility, you know, I thought
Republica Georgia was going to be a real good spot
there for a while. I was considering heading over there
to check that out. Just before COVID. That's an interesting thing,
Like just minutes before COVID, I was planning ahead over

(56:20):
Republican Georgia. Excuse me, because they have grown wines straight
straight for eight thousand years. Even some of the stories
after the arc in Mount air Rat some of the
first places that supprobably out of the biblical references, the
ark had landed up on Mount Ara Rat and the
first place is that they planted wine buyings again was
within sight of where the arc had landed on the

(56:41):
mount that was Republican Georgia just over there on the
other side of causes. So Sumba Island in Indonesia would
be another one of my must be definitely on the
top ten, say zones of the planet. Now again we
have governmental regulation. Could you obtain a forever visa there

(57:07):
Summa Island, you know, three hundred miles long, one hundred
miles wide, some of the densest, thickest, most lush vegetation
on the planet, plus goods, surfing, cool people and that
it would have been another one. But you know out
here where I live in the southeast US, anywhere. I

(57:27):
just drove up to Virginia this last week. I want
to go visit Joel Salatin's farm at Polyface Farms, to
go see what they're doing with sustainable agriculture and that
whole area on western Virginia going up through the Allegheny
there and the get up into the sort of West Virginia.
But I think it's going to be too cold up there.
But the remoteness was top notch. I mean, I couldn't

(57:49):
have chosen better places for remoteness, Like armies couldn't even
sweep through there and find everybody. We too remote, so
you want to look for some of these locations, like
we're just to start to get really remote in this.
You know, out here in East Tennessee, you get lost.
I mean, we're just four miles from the Cherokee National
Forest out in farming country. You got to turn down
the road, turn down a road, turn down a road,

(58:11):
and we're the last power pole up here and it stops.
So how remo can you get but still be a
little bit close to connected? But you got to think
about these threat analyzes. How close are you to a
major population center? And you know, Chris, how likely do
you think that it is that a government could invade
the US or our own troops ago in areas and

(58:34):
start to try to build for everybody's resources or try
to actually do ops and move through in clear areas,
And how far do you think they would get? Because
the Second Amendment is allowing us to stop some of this,
but without that, there seems to be the push on

(58:54):
the same timeline to disarm everybody too. So when I
look at those two in history and go hmm, no, no,
every time I see the disarming, something nefarious comes afterwards.
So you know, what's this all out push see twenty
twenty four October. They're really trying to do something right
now to get everybody's firearms away from them in the
next minute or so, because they need everybody disarm moving forward. Yeah, Now,

(59:19):
so do you think an army would sweep through America
and be able to get way out into these hinter
lands here, way out into the remotest parts of America
where they just be pretty much stuck in the cities
in some of the suburbs.

Speaker 1 (59:28):
I think, you know, they would probably be most likely
stuck in the cities. I'm sure they would be able
to access some areas, not all of them. You know,
it just makes me wonder how much society will crumble
in the next few years. So let's look at a
timeline that people can possibly be aware of. You said,
October is the first, you know, big thing that we're

(59:49):
going to start seeing hints that we're headed into some
mad max territory. What comes next as far as our
climate changes in major changes that we're going to start
to definitely see and when should we start looking towards that?

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
From not a twenty twenty four but you know, that's
kind of dropping off the importance level of saying, Okay,
we saw this thing in the sky or Okay, there's
another earthquake. You need to start responding about your food,
your food production, your self sufficiency, your community, because those
things are going to take place naturally. Whether you study
them all day longer you don't look at them, they're
still coming. But what you have more control over is

(01:00:31):
going to be your ability to grow food. That's what's coming.
And see, it's really going to start to hit. The
digital rationing cards are going to be here by the
end of the year. So if I'm anywhere remotely close,
they're going to start to issue digital rationing cards. And
as we come into the end of this year, the
amount of panic on the planet is going to just

(01:00:52):
send people into such motion that you're not gonna you'll
never see anything like it except maybe World War two
and then the end of the nineteen thirties when people
really started to migrate around and get more get more
out of the way of the danger.

Speaker 3 (01:01:07):
How do you think?

Speaker 1 (01:01:08):
And then if these digital rationing cards are going to work,
what you know, how are they going to enforce that?

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Well, they're going to make the stores reinforce it and
you're going to start to see troops and armed people
inside your supermarkets. Now have you noticed all the mom
and pop supermarkets have been wiped away during COVID. I
don't think that was an accident. I think that was planned. Yeah,
because pretty much, and I'm not going to saye hundred percent,
but I'm going to say pretty much above eighty percent
of what is left out there in the world after

(01:01:36):
this COVID shutdown thing is corporate business, and corporate business
will do what corporate is told to do. So if
you only have Sam's Club and Walmart and what's another
on Costco and something like this available Aldy and that's it, Kroger,
that's it. That's the only thing available in your town,

(01:01:56):
and they require digital rationing cards, then there's no else
for you to go. So they've eliminated all of the
possible competition or all the possible other avenues for you
to go out and find food except for your local farmers.
So if they do move to additional rationing card, how
long did it taken to move to having forces at
the door?

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Put on a mask?

Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
You don't put on a mask. You now lout in Oh,
you get to arrested your trespassing because you're in here,
but you don't have a mask on. Okay, that took
about what a fifteen and eighth of a second for
everybody to be the tattle tale. It's the most ridiculous thing.
How everybody turned on everybody, How quickly it happened. It
makes just how sickening that was to watch it unfold. Yeah,
but how quickly could it be done? Because they've already

(01:02:38):
pre trained everybody once, so they don't have to really
pre train you twice. They're going to go jump through
the hoop again? Okay digital rationing card? Ye know, sir?
How much? How many people can turn into buying from farms?
Do I get an extra loaf of bread and an
extra pound of butter if I turn in my neighbor
because they bought from a farm. This is where they're
going to go.

Speaker 1 (01:02:54):
Well, So about is the consciousness evolution aspect that you
were discussing earlier that people are waking up, We're becoming
more enlightened and more awakened, and we're evolving in certain ways.
And I see a lot of people doing that, although
there are a lot of people who are devolving are
just stuck and not moving. That gives me hope that

(01:03:14):
maybe we can buck up against some of this stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:20):
Yeah, how many people will do that with a starving family? Though,
This is the problem we're running into, is food is
the ultimate control weapon. I would agree if food was
not used, because if they try to do two point
zero with this whole COVID wear your mask thing again,
it would be a no go this time, absolute no go.
But when you start with holding food and making obedience

(01:03:43):
part of your food ration, you can change in society
in three or four days. And the people that have
not prepared yet, I feel so sorry for them. They're
not going to know what's coming, and they're going to
get hit blindsided, and they're still going to believe that
everything's going back to normal. And I don't know what
I would say, not even remotely close to enough people

(01:04:04):
have prepared for what's coming. I feel like, even though
I've done stuff for years and years and years, that
I'm still not really ready. So what about somebody who's
just learning about this today. What percentage of the population
do you think is prepared enough to get through food
insecurity for a full year and not have to rely
on the centralized systems as much.

Speaker 1 (01:04:25):
Yeah, it's a tiny amount. I mean, I can look
at even a small portion of the community that we're
involved with is prepared. So you know, you take that
and you make that even smaller. That's not many people,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
So and they're going to be the ones that will
be the enforcers because they'll be fed, and their children
will be fed, and their wife will be fed or
their husband will be I mean, you're watching your children
starting to death from no food or so emaciated that
they're getting sick because they don't have enough vitamins and
minerals in their body and their hunger pains. And that's
all they do is dream and think about food seven

(01:04:58):
days a week, twenty four to seven. It's going to
move people to do strange things, you know. And then
the way they rationalize the morality of either killing somebody
or burglarizing or whatever they do to get that food.
The morality rationality is my kids die. You're understanding in

(01:05:19):
my way and just done so many sociological studies over
the last hundred years, and when you start reading about
the barbarism of people, the way they change when they
get hungry. A man by himself is going to be
your least thing to worry about. Yeah, you might have
some armed dudes come rocking up your driveway, but if
you have a few neighbors together, you could take care

(01:05:40):
of that. That's a direct thing, one on one. That's
your least scary thing to think about. The scariest is
a starving family that comes knocking up on your door
and they know you have food inside, and their kids
are starving and they can't move another muscle because they're
so malnursed, they really can't move, and they're screaming, mom
hungry that I'm those parents are going to do anything

(01:06:02):
they can to get between you and through your door
to get food for their kids. Not a lot of
people are thinking about the choices they're going to have
to make. The people have not gotten ready, and it's
not my fault they haven't. The distractions are there. I mean,
the way the media machine works and the way our
schooling system works. It creates robots, does Yeah, And they

(01:06:25):
want to put a lot of unnursed robots soon. And
the zombie movies I think are the state of our
world with no food. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:06:33):
They have this illusion that they want to put us
in this matrix inside of a matrix, the metaverse, but
I don't I don't see us making it there, you know,
with everything that we just discussed. Uh, you know, we
may be lucky if our technology as we know it
is still around in ten years, but we're man, we're
in some very important times, very critical times, very important

(01:06:53):
for people to follow your work and things you're doing. David,
thank you so much. This was great. We're gonna have
to do this again and hopefully if we can within
the next few months, as long as everything's still running.
Let the audience know where they can find your work
and everything you got going.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Video platforms you're going to look for adapt twenty thirty, Odyssey,
rumble Bit, Shoot, Bright Teon and YouTube and the podcast
many Ice Age Conversations podcast that's anywhere podcast hosts across
the net, because I know a lot of people have
their own favorite player, but pretty much on all the
different streaming services that there could be. It's going to

(01:07:36):
be such a strange world we're moving into. I just
you know, I'm trying to get mentally repair and that's
about the best thing I can say is your physical
body is one vessel to think about, but up here
this is another whole entirely vessel, different vessel to be
thinking about. These two are disconnected, but they are connected.
But the way your mind is going to work during
these times and things you're going to see and choices

(01:07:58):
you're going to have to make, you know, you're gonna
have to get some mental prep ready for situations like
play it out in your head, what if? What if?
What if? So it doesn't just happen to you and
you never thought about it, And then you have to
make the choice right then, which is probably going to
be the worst choice because you just are unfaced and
you'll do it out of fear. You're gonna have to

(01:08:20):
make choices to move through, and you are gonna have
to adapt every day, every week, every month as we
get through. And if you can get through to twenty
thirty or twenty thirty two, you will be the new world.
You'll be leading the new world and rebuilding it. So
I don't know how many people that will be at
the end of this now. It's Georgia Guidestone's as nefarious

(01:08:40):
as they are. The trajectory we're on now, and I'm
not saying that the timelines could very well change. Things
could change, everything could stop and reverse itself. I'm just
saying right now, as it's moving forward to the present course. Wrong.
I don't know if they'll be five There'll be just
barely five hundred thousand people here, just the way it's
working now. By the time twenty thirty or old around,

(01:09:00):
and forget the whole having to execute people and all
that stuff. Just nature. We'll do it anyway. The starvation
will do it, the infighting will do at the breakdown
in society and the breakdowns in medicine and non deliverables,
that'll do it anyway. They just have to wait for
a few years and turn off the services. Yeah, turn
off the centralized systems that we relied on, where everybody

(01:09:22):
got lazy and doesn't even know how to go down
and use a willow tree to make aspirin out of
the bark. That kind of laziness has gotten us to
where we sit today.

Speaker 1 (01:09:32):
Yeah, And you know, I hope you, like you said,
it's not too late. I hope there's still time to
bring awareness to people. I have hope. I have faith
in people that are awakening and that maybe we could
lead a few of us into the new world and
have a better resistance afterwards. David, thank you so much.
That was fantastic and we're definitely gonna have to do

(01:09:53):
this again to keep us up to day on some
of this stuff soon.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Now, can I leave one last thought? Of course, with
us all being said, there's going to be more change
than ever in the history of humanity right now. So
the opportunities out there are going to be the most
in human history ever. But it's going to be based
on a need that people have not thought about yet,
or filling in a gap to help people live better lives.

(01:10:21):
And again I'll say that the amount of opportunity that
exists right now has never been higher, and all of
combined human history, we are at the number one position
in time right now to have the greatest opportunity of
all humans ever who have lived on this planet ever.
So put that into perspective on how you can help
somebody get through this, enhance their life, enrich your life.

(01:10:46):
And if you do that, you're going to find that
sweet spot niche and you're going to flourish and be
a part of the new world and hopefully use your
resources and your money for good to help other people
who are going to lose their land during this time.
You buy their farmland and keep them on it and
then sell it back to them after this. There's a
lot of things you can do with with your resources

(01:11:08):
to help others during this transition as well. Yeah, it's
not all doom and gloom. You're going to see a
lot of that, but you're going to see some bursts
of light in the middle there too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I love it. That's a great way to end on. David,
thank you so much, and we'll definitely be in touch
here and talk again soon.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
All right, Thanks bye for now by.

Speaker 1 (01:11:27):
Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
again tomorrow. We'll see you then. Today my guest is
Writer Lee. He is a truth seeker, knowledge guardian, and
spiritual educator. He uses real world experiences to educate and
elevate others to awaken, question their reality and expand their consciousness.
He is hosting creator of Raised by Giants, where he

(01:11:49):
interviews others from all backgrounds about their spiritual awakening to
bring people different perspectives of what's going on in the
world on an individual and collective level. Writer, welcome back.
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:12:04):
Doing great, Chris, Thanks so much for inviting me and
really looking forward to the conversation, let's get weird, let's
get freaky, le's talk about all the stuff. Let's get it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Yes, we always get weird and freaky. Brother. Now today
is probably going to be more important conversation the most
I thought we could discuss the future of humanity. I
think we've reached a critical point in our modern history
where we're being divided more than ever into this kind
of right left paradigm as well as the technocratic transhuman

(01:12:34):
timeline agendas. I can't imagine waking up right now during
these times just being becoming aware of these things. Things
have progressed much quicker than most of us thought, and
I think it's time for us to make some preemptive
moves as far as our future and our own livelihood. Now,
did you see things progressing as quickly as they have, say,

(01:12:57):
back in twenty twenty when all the shenanigans started, Absolutely
I did.

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
And I was one of the first people that came
out and said that this whole thing was a huge
hoax and that it was just the common cold and
the common flu. Now, I didn't have any pre warned
information about it. I didn't know that that's how that
they were doing it, you know. But there's been people
speaking about this, this enslavement and what they want to
do with the new World Order and get everybody, you know,

(01:13:28):
into these smart cities, this Agenda twenty one. I mean,
they've had that Agenda twenty one Sustainable Development Plan for
years and now they've been doing that. That's been a
public domain thing. So I didn't know that it was
going to go exactly the way that it did. But
as soon as I seen them that they were hitting
with the virus. We got all that propaganda from China,

(01:13:49):
the people dying in the middle of the street and
passing out and all that bullshit nonsense, I knew that
that's exactly what they were doing, and that they wanted
to push this vaccine because they have to come in
and it's the only way to collapse the entire system
is they have to blame it on something that is
non identifiable, right, we can't identify a virus. A virus

(01:14:11):
is spooky, it's out there, it's a boogety boot, it's
all around you, you know. And if tricked people into
believing that just living your life you have the chance
of infecting someone or getting sick or doing your everyday
normal stuff that you could possibly die or that you
could possibly kill someone else. That was just the in

(01:14:32):
your face way of you know, bringing the whole thing down.
And before that it was more of a subversion. They
were doing it all behind the shadows. You know, it
wasn't so much in our face. And this is the
first huge in your face moment that they've done, and
it's just you know, step one and everything to come
after is to is to cover up the fact that

(01:14:56):
the majority of the population lost their mind over this
this whole virus stuff, you know, and wasted two years
of their life, and they shut down their businesses, and
they stop visiting their parents, they stop visiting the grandparents.
They can go to hospitals, like you know, people that
were pregnant during the time, like their their their spouse

(01:15:17):
wasn't able to go to the hospital to see their
kid being born, you know, and there and it's a
it's a blame game. And everything that comes after, like
the the whole war in Ukraine and Russia and the
Johnny Depp trial and the Will Smith's lap and you know,
everything that we're seeing, you know now is all a distraction.

(01:15:38):
You know, the mass shootings you know, it's all just
to distract you away from the fact that you just
the majority of the population just wasted two years of
their life for absolutely nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:54):
Now, what do you think about people's reactions? What have
you learned about human nature and the majority's kind of
conscious reaction and feelings to the way things have happened.
For me, it's a mixed bag. I'm proud of some people,
but for most, it just shows how brainwashed people have

(01:16:15):
become and how far gone most people are, and that
they would obey anything that e government tells them. I
did start having more hope recently, as you know, they've
made more mistakes up top and people started questioning more.
That people did start waking up more. But I also
wonder is it too late now? You know, how far

(01:16:37):
should people have to be ready for these for these
kind of events that are about to happen? And how
do you feel about the reaction so far? You know
from your colleagues, friends and people around the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:16:52):
I think that the biggest reaction is negative reaction is online, right,
That's where the the majority of the nonsense it really is.
And then when you step outside of the online from
social media and stuff like if we're talking you know,
individual like if I'm talking to somebody on the street,

(01:17:14):
you know, they're not like they are online. They're more
sensible and they're willing to actually, you know, talk about that.
But the social justice warrior stuff online is just completely ridiculous,
you know, And I don't believe that half the people
that are saying the things that they do really even
believe them. You know, they're just going along with the

(01:17:35):
majority of the population. But right now they really are
blowing their load. I think that they are moving way
too fast with the agendas and the things that they
want to do. But they they tend to tell you
everything that they're going to do, whether it's you know,
we've talked about the movies and the TV shows and
all that, you know, the predictive programming behind that a

(01:17:57):
lot in our previous shows, But they tell you in
other ways, other covert ways, and a lot of times
it's just one straightforward And I actually have a clip
right here talking about the monetary system and what they're
going to do with the monetary system because it's going
to collapse. It's going to implode. Now again, I don't

(01:18:17):
know when that's going to be We've been in trillions
of dollars of debt, you know, and it can't sustain itself.
And I believe that a lot of our problems have
stemmed from this banking cartel, fractional reserve monetary system that
we've had, and they want to get rid of it.

(01:18:37):
They want to completely collapse, and it's kept us from
being able to evolve consciously and look into these different
topics because people just don't have time, right They're too
busy working, and they're too busy providing for their family.
And that's why we have, you know, a lot of
shitty jobs that nobody wants to do. They only do
them because they have to do them right. But I'm

(01:18:58):
going to show this clip of this gentleman talking about
the monetary system and what they're planning on doing is
really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:19:07):
Yeah, something else we've seen is people's true colors lately,
you know, whether they are all certain camp We're seeing
what deep down inside people are made of right now,
and that's very important to find out.

Speaker 4 (01:19:21):
Rapid changes are taking place in the global monetary system
that may affect the international role of the dollar in
the future. Most major economies already have or are in
the process of developing instant twenty four to seven emits.
Our own fed now service will be coming online in
twenty twenty three, and in light of the tremendous crypto

(01:19:41):
assets and stable coins, we are examining whether a US
Central Bank digital currency would improve upon what is an
already safe and efficient domestic payment system. As our white
paper on this topic notes, a US CBDC could also
potentially help maintain the dollars international standing.

Speaker 3 (01:20:00):
So basically, what that clip is saying, and that gentleman
from the Federal Reserve is saying, is that the dollar
is losing value and they have to do something different.
And he's talking about a digital backed blockchain cryptocurrency that
they're working on at the end of twenty twenty three,
and I've heard several other people talk about this is

(01:20:22):
when they are the banks are going to transition from
out of the dollar, out of that being our federal
reserve money, into a crypto kind of currency. And some
people think that that's going to be XRP and some
other cryptocurrency backing system. But that's the thing. Is there

(01:20:47):
for sure going to switch that up. And in order
for them to switch that up, they just can't do
it right off the rip because it's going to create
too much opposition, too many people who are locked in
to the dollar, and they think that by a change
that that it's that it's a bad thing. And what
they're really they're not realizing that that the dollar has
been an enslavement upon people. Even the people in the

(01:21:10):
conspiracy community, you know, think that you know, oh, they
want to get rid of the dollar dollar, they want
to take us to this other kind of currency. Well,
that's the best thing for us, honestly, to get us
out of the out from under the thumb of the
financial reserve banking cartel, the fractional reserve banking call to
that's that's held us in under his thumb, under slavery

(01:21:31):
for decades, now, you know, and I think the you know,
but but the problem is is they're they're going to
collapse it, and that's going to create a lot of chaos,
right because people aren't going to know what to do.
They're still going to have their money, but they're not
going to buy anything with it because the dollar is
going to basically lose its value. There isn't going to
be any value to the dollar, and it's going to

(01:21:54):
be a while until they transition into that into that
new system, going to be left in limbo for a
couple of months or maybe even a year or so.
But and it's going to be really hectic for people,
and that's where a lot of the chaos is going
to stem from. And the Department of Homeland Security actually

(01:22:15):
issued a national terrorism bulletin on June sixth, which I
can show that to you here as well. I don't
have the ability to share the screen.

Speaker 1 (01:22:27):
Yeah, I'm gonna give you the ability to do that
real quick. Yeah, people that have their heads in the
sand about this stuff right now are going to have
a root wake. They probably already are when they're looking
at the prices of things.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Right it's continuously going up. They're hitting us with super
hyper inflation, and that's going to keep going up and
keep going up until people basically break. You know, they
want everyone on their knees, and it's going to keep
going and keep going and keep going until you're going
to the store and you're paying twenty dollars for a
gallon of milk and thirty dollars a loaf of bread,
and then you know, than the whole the supply chain

(01:23:04):
is going to get worse. There's not only is there
going to be less of it in the stores, that
it's going to be double the amount of price. I mean,
inflation has been the highest that's ever been in the
history of the country. Gas is the highest that it's
ever been. It's not going to go back down. And
some people think that, oh, well, yeah, we've seen this
before and then it it levels out and evens oh, no,
that's not that's not a part of the agenda. They

(01:23:25):
want to completely price everybody out of the system so
that they can eventually collapse the dollar. And I think
that that's coming sooner than later, within the next five years.
It's it's we're no longer going to have the dollar.
It's going to be completely gone. But I'm going to
share the screen and show you this this terrorism bulletin

(01:23:48):
right here that was posted on June seventh, twenty twenty two,
at nine am, which is the summary of the terrorism
threat to the United States. The United States remains and
it's heightened threat environment. As noted a previous bulletin. The
several recent attacks of highlighted the domestic and complex nature
of the threat, involving involvement in the coming months, we

(01:24:10):
expect the threat, which how would they know? How would
they know tell me me months that there's going to
be this super high threat that they would need to
the National Guard would need to get involved. The only
way they would know is if they're manufacturing. Right, we
know this, everyone knows this is what's watching this watching
the show and become more dramatic as several high profile

(01:24:31):
events could be exploited to justify acts of violence against
the a rage of possible targets. These targets could include
public gatherings, faith based institutions, school radical and religious minorities,
government facilities and personal us, critical infrastructure, the media, and
perceived iological opponents. Right, And that's the way that it's done, right,

(01:24:56):
and they get everyone divided on a topic which you know,
we've just recently seen the overturning of Row versus Way.
They brought that back down and brought it to a
state level, which should be a state But if you
look up all the articles online about the overturning of
Row versus Way, all of them say that abortion has

(01:25:17):
been banned, right, and none of them say, oh, it's
just been brought down to a state level. And some
states are going to be banning it, and others aren't
going to be banning it. They're keeping their previous, you know,
position on abortion. But that's how easily these events are manipulating.
And I'm sure everybody in other countries. That's where I've

(01:25:40):
seen a lot of the majority of outreach, which we've
seen some protests and stuff here in the United States
surrounding it, but a lot of people in other countries
that are researching it think that we've outright banned abortion
in the United States. You can't get an abortion anywhere
in any state, right And that's how easily in controlled
the information can be. They can literally make something that's

(01:26:01):
not real be real, you know, just by not even
you know, reporting on it, you know. And it's to
divide us, to get people on one extreme side or
the other extreme side, right, And I think that right now,
and the way that things are going is it's going
to move so far in the right direction that it's

(01:26:23):
going to completely implode because they've been because no matter
the way that you look at it, America in the
United States is a is a conservative country. Like that's
mostly where you know, a lot of our roots and
our foundation is in nationalism. And in the conservative side,

(01:26:43):
they've only really been propping up the left and the
democratic side in the in the past twenty years, you know,
and they've artificially inflated it to make it seem like
it's bigger than what it is. So then the right
in the repub publican in the conservative side can you know,
basically fight and be used to implode the entire thing,

(01:27:09):
to bring everything down. And that's exactly what I think
is going to happen in the election in twenty twenty four.
That's what Trump's whole campaign is going to be about.
It's going to be about, Oh yeah, these people, what
about the vaccines? They want to they screwed everything up.
They're making your children, you know, be trans you know,

(01:27:30):
they're they're doing all this stuff there. You know, gas
prices has never been higher. It's all been because of Biden.
It's because of the left. If inflation has been completely ridiculous,
it's going to get everybody hyped for some kind of change, right,
because everybody wants change, everyone wants hope. Right. Everyone thought
that Obama was going to be the savior of everything,

(01:27:52):
and we've seen, you know how that went. He was
just all talk and no action, right, And it's going
to get everyone all hyped for someone to come back
in and actually change things, right, and when they don't
get it again, because they're not going to get it
again right whenever Trump loses again in the twenty twenty

(01:28:15):
four election, because he's basically the only one that can run, right.
They don't have anybody else left on that side that
could drum up any kind of amount of votes, right,
So they're going to use Trump again. And then it's
going to be this whole campaign and his entire campaign
is going to get the United States in a big,
huge uproar, and they're all going to be thinking, there's
no possible way that Trump can lose again. You know,

(01:28:40):
the majority of the population on the conservative side don't
even believe that he really lost in twenty twenty, right,
And Biden's rating has never been lower. He's been the
least approved president in probably the history of the United States,
you know, And it's going to get everybody all in
and uproar about, oh, yeah, we need change, we need this,

(01:29:03):
and there's no way that you know, Trump can possibly
lose this time. Look at all people that are at
his campaign and at his rallies and everything, and then
when he doesn't get it again, that's when it's going
to go down. And there's going to be an uprising
of the people, I think, and that's going to be
the start of the collapse of the government and pretty

(01:29:27):
much our society.

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get ten percent off your entire purchase. Yeah, it's very complicated.
Actually it's not so much a pyramid structure, can you
The what we're looking at here is like I talked
with Charlie about the other day. Unfortunately, you can't go
with either side. You can't go fully right, you can't

(01:31:17):
go fully left. They're both fully controlled by the elite
factions of Babylonian death called and what we'd like to
say is the fourth Reich. Each you know, far right
extremist and far left extremists, each with their own idea
of where they want humanity to go, but both want
humanity to be basically enslaved underneath them, whether they want

(01:31:42):
depopulation or this technocratic society. Each side is completely controlled
when you look at the left right paradigm by psychopaths,
and you can't go with either side because you're gonna
be led in the wrong direction either way. That's why
you got to look at the middle path in both issues.
You got to look at, you know, what makes sense

(01:32:03):
to you on both sides, because both sides are fully
fully controlled right now, and I think they are trying
to divide us and send us to a wide right
wing swing to where people are, you know, ready to
be up in arms and you know, shoot anybody on
the left or we're going to have like the Civil
war type unresting going on. And I think that's desired,

(01:32:27):
but I don't think that it's going to happen because
I don't want to say the right is already the majority,
but people that are leaning that direction that I think
have common sense and have critical thinking skills are the majority,
and whether they're right or left, I think that that
is going to cause problems for this division tactics that

(01:32:50):
they're attempting to pull on us, because I think most
people are hip to both sides agendas at this point.
I would hope man, because both sides have been just
throwing them out there as hard as they can, and
we've seen the disgusting and psychopathy and the agendas coming
from both sides, and neither one of those is a
good future that I would want to pick that I

(01:33:12):
would want to be on. So you know, do you
think that with all this the division and everything else,
that it's going to make a difference with if we
are the majority, and do you think we are the majority,
be behind the scenes at least people that are crit
freethinkers and critical thinkers and are reasonable.

Speaker 3 (01:33:33):
I think so to a degree. And the way that
I view the two sides right is they're fighting for
their perspective and whether that perspective is right or not.
It's like they're like, I hope my team wins, so
my point of view can be forced upon the other
half of the nation that necessarily doesn't want it, or

(01:33:56):
I'll get angry and there will be a lot of outrage. Right.
So that's how I really view the two sides of
the right and the left area of this, and neither
one serves the best interest. We've been locked into this
duality and polarity, and it's been split within the right

(01:34:17):
and left. It's manifested from our spiritual reality and our
environment here and then it's spread out into the physical world.
And that's the splitting of the left side of us,
which left side of our Kundalini, the left side which
is the blue side is depicted as a you know,

(01:34:38):
a blue serpent. And then the right side of us,
which is the red side, which is the right side
of our spiritual Kundalini, which is depicted as red. You know,
it's just manifested into our reality from our spiritual polarity
and spiritual duality here. And I think that the best

(01:35:00):
way to be is right down the center path, like
I've spoken about several times on my show, right, you
take the center paths, you take the rod of the
Kuombbillini as it's right in the middle, and it can
differ on either side, you know. And I don't think
people really realize how the dark and the light works
here in this reality right that you both work in

(01:35:23):
tam Here, the dark in light work together here to
create this three D physical reality. And the dark's role
is to test you here. The dark's role is to
dangle dark carrots in front of you to see if
you're going to bite right, And then the light's role

(01:35:43):
is to see how much love and compassion you bring
to a situation that where you're suffering or you're in pain. Right.
But what people don't realize is the light also test
you in that regard. The light tests you in a
way to see how much love and compassion you're going

(01:36:07):
to give somebody else before you give yourself, right, And
they work both both in the exact same way. And
that's you know, a lot of times people think that
all it's the dark side, this testing me, it's these
it's the ariconic versus, it's the Reptilians and blah blah
blah blah blah, when it might not necessarily be it

(01:36:28):
might actually be the light side. That's that's testing you
to see which way you're going to go and how
much love and compassion that you're going to bring to
your suffering, you know. And I think that's a really
interesting way to do that. And uh, Michael Lee Hill
talks about that a lot, and how you know, the

(01:36:48):
the duality and the polarity that's set up is to
make it to where we can actually live in this
three D physical reality, because if we have the suffering,
the pain, and the anguish, then we would no longer exist.
And through that suffering, pain and anguish, we get to

(01:37:09):
experience pleasure, love and enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:37:13):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:37:14):
It's it's a duality, it's the it's the yin and
the yang. You know, you have to have one side
to have the other, and if one is outweigher one
is taken away, then you don't even know the other
one is taken away too. So I don't know if
that's uh, if that makes any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
Or yeah, And I want to I want to get
to more of the spiritual and metaphysical aspects here in
a minute, but I do want to address something, and
I think it's important for people to understand what we're
about to talk about. Is there's really no going back
to a world we used to know pre twenty twenty.
We'll never know the prices that we used to. I
don't think we'll ever see gas prices like we used to.

(01:37:56):
I think we're going to start to see a world
rapidly change and become far different than we've ever seen
before in our whole history, at least modern history. So
people need to be prepared for this. And I think
there's this illusion that we're going back to normal somehow,
that we're going to go back to the good old days,
a good old gas prices of a couple of dollars

(01:38:17):
a gallon. And I think this is a grand illusion
that's not not only being put forward towards by the
media in Hollywood and everything else, by by even you
know people, your friends, your peers. They have this they
keep telling themselves or going back to normal, everything's gonna
be fine. Oh this is just temporary, these grocery prices,
and it's not. It's just going to get worse. If

(01:38:39):
you just look at it logically and you put all
the pieces together, there's no way that we would ever
go back to anything that resembles what we used to
know as a normal society, right.

Speaker 3 (01:38:52):
Absolutely. And that's the thing is like, was that normal
society really that normal? Was it really that good good
that we want to return back to it? I think
that the only people, I think, the only people that
it was good for was the people that were that
were benefiting from the system, right, and the ones that

(01:39:12):
were that that had a lot of money and didn't
really want to look into you know, they just wanted
to go along with everything because their life was actually good.
But if you look at the lower percentage of the population,
the middle class and the lower middle class, and the poor,
the poorer neighborhoods and the poorer people of the world,

(01:39:35):
I don't think that they thought that that was a
very good way of life. Back whenever people thought that
everything was normal, right, we still had all these problems, right,
Homelessness was still huge. You know, there's still people starving
on the planet. You know, there were still people working
really shy, shitty jobs. There was people on unemployment, there

(01:39:57):
was people on government assistance. You know that really nothing
has changed, it's just become more apparent what they're doing.
You know, it's it's more in our face now, right,
And I don't we need something different. We need something
that's beneficial for everyone. And I think that that's what
we need to get is just going to be a

(01:40:20):
really really slow collapse, and they unfortunately, some people are
going to have to die. And that's just the way
that it is. And that's just me being brutally honest,
and that's not me agreeing with their agenda. That's just
what really has to happen. And that's what they that's
their plan, right, is to lined a large portion of

(01:40:43):
the population. And whether that's for actually for our benefit
or as for our negative, then you know, I don't
really know. You know, there's different perspectives that you can
look at all this stuff from, right, all the thoughts, ideas,
and beliefs that we have is only applicable to us
being in this three D physical reality, right if you

(01:41:05):
look at it from higher levels, which we it's hard
for us to look at it from a higher spiritual
level because we're locked in to hear to this three
D physical world. But I guarant I promise you all
the things that you think matter here don't matter in
other levels of reality. They are far less significant the

(01:41:27):
further that you go up the into other dimensions and
other levels of reality. The only reason that these problems
in these issues exist, and we think that there are
a problem here, is because we're in it. We're in
this three D physical tangible world. So therefore, the only

(01:41:48):
thing that we know is this three D physical tangible world,
and it's hard for us to see outside of that
because again we're locked into this perception and the only
other perception that we have are based off of what
we know here, and ninety five percent of what we
know has been told to us by somebody else. Our

(01:42:10):
information is always given to us from somebody else. Right,
there's very few people that actually get information that has
not been told to them by an authority figure by
the news, by the media, by social media, by talking
to them. But that's how we expand our thoughts and

(01:42:31):
our ideas here is sharing it with other people, right
to expand our consciousness and expand our reality. But I'm
telling you, everything that happens here does not matter on
higher levels of reality. The stuff that we're dealing with
here is basically child's play, you know, and higher dimensional

(01:42:53):
beings that exist out there, whether they be spiritual, whether
they be some kind of interdimensional race, you know, eats
or whatever. They might be spiritually, at these consciousness entities,
this is nothing to them. This ship doesn't matter, you know.
They're they're not concerned with anything that's happening here, you know.

(01:43:18):
And they look at this place as they as a
playground for experience, right, And that's the way that we
should be looking at it too, is we're just here
for the experience. We're here to experience this three D
physical reality and everything that it has to offer. Anything
else has does not matter. You're right, it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (01:43:44):
You can turn this into an extreme kind of stranger
example and bring that within the matrix that example as
to there are individuals in what we consider the enemy
and evil people who are here to play their roles,
but not only that, they're here for their experience in
the matrix. You know, if they are indeed another soul

(01:44:07):
that are on their own soul journey and this type
of reality that we're in and they have to have
their own type of experience. Maybe it's their growing experience
to be a psychopath an evil person to reach their
next level. Or maybe they're actually just part of our experience.
Maybe they're just part of our individual learning experience here

(01:44:30):
on this planet, and that's what their role to play is.
There's so many different ways you could look at it,
but you can't get caught up in the kind of
macro side of it. You have to you know, there's
so many ways to explore what we're doing here in
the nature of our reality, good and evil. If a

(01:44:51):
person here is you know, supposed to be doing something,
or if they're actually good or actually evil, it's all
about out I believe, you know, our perception of things
and our own individual experiences, and it's for our own growth.
And it makes me wonder if what we consider psychopaths
or the people these elites in charge, or they're on

(01:45:11):
their own journey and they're on there maybe the bottom
level of their spiritual growth. I don't know, there's so
much to consider when you're looking at the deeper levels
of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Absolutely, I think that even the dark side, the evil,
they all have their roles here. It's like I was
talking about, that they work and they work in tandem. Here,
they feed off of each other. You know, they're they're
actually best friends. Right, It's only perceived here that they're
separate because again, we're we're we're brought in here by

(01:45:45):
a set of rules, right, and we're told by our
parents that this is the way that it is, and
our friends and we're giving the given these guidelines of
how we're supposed to act and obey and do things right.
But that doesn't necessarily mean that that's the only way

(01:46:05):
to do these things. This is just the accepted way.
This is what's been given to us. Right, We've we
learned right and wrong, even though right and wrong might
not even be a thing. The only reason that right
and wrong, I believe even exists is because of the
religious institution and the and the Ten Commandments. Right, we've

(01:46:27):
gotten so far deep into this to this right and
wrong thing that it's difficult for people to even live
their lives and do what they want to do. And
of course I'm not saying that you can go out
here and shoot somebody in the face and not have
any repercussions. Of course you're going to have repercussions. Don't
go out and hurt anyone, or harm anyone, or damage

(01:46:49):
or steal their property. Right, But that's the that's the
universal law, and the natural law of this aspect is
as long as you're not hurting anyone physically, damaging or
stealing their property, you should be able to do whatever
it is that you want. Right. There are no other

(01:47:11):
rules outside of that right, and any other rules that
is that has been implemented outside of that has falsely
been imposed upon us right through laws and saying that
you know, it's it's it's bad to do this, it's

(01:47:31):
wrong to do that. That's just a perception of people
in this reality, right, that's locked them in to this
certain way of living. And it doesn't mean that it's
that it's right or that it is correct. It's just
the way that we've been operating here. Things should flow
so much easier, right, We shouldn't have all this guilt

(01:47:53):
and all this baggage that we've accumulated over our lifetimes
and in our past lives. If you you know, believe
in past lives and stuff like that, you know, the
all the karma and all the bad stuff that's been
generated has been done to ourselves right through guilt and shame,
right and we hold on to that guilt and shame

(01:48:16):
and it wrecks and destroys not only our physical body,
but destroys our our mental state. It destroys our emotional state.
It traumatizes us and then you know, it makes it
difficult more difficult for us to move on once we've
passed on in this three D physical body because we're
rooted here. We're locked in to the guilt, the shame,

(01:48:40):
and the trauma. And I think that that's what you know,
your experiences have shown you to, Chris, with your your
contact experiences, you know, I've shown you to get rid
of this guilt and this shame in this trauma, right
because that's baggage that's holding you down individually on individual level,
sting your consciousness, and it's making it to where you

(01:49:04):
can't experience this life to the fullest the way that
it's meant to be. Experienced.

Speaker 1 (01:49:10):
Yeah, you're right, And the more I think about it,
there is evidence that we might have been that this matrix,
whatever we're experiencing right now, may have been infiltrated by
another nefarious life form or or something like that, maybe
some kind of AI, maybe some kind of entity, some
kind of spiritual entity may have hijacked our reality here

(01:49:34):
and made it even harder for us to kind of
realize what we are and what we're doing here. There's
evidence of this, you know, because our ancient past has
been reset so many times. There's evidence that we were
much more spiritually in consciousness, and we had much more
different wonderful abilities for construction and even communication and psychic abilities,

(01:49:55):
and that this has all been kind of hindered within
the last few hundred year years. And that makes me
wonder have we been hijacked in some way with our
matrix inside of another matrix by some type of dark entity.
That's always something that you have to consider, considering all
the changes we've undergone as humans just in the past

(01:50:16):
couple hundred years, to our negative to our detriment.

Speaker 3 (01:50:20):
Absolutely. Robert Stanley talked about this how back in ancient history,
Inky Inky and and little you know, the Samerian gods.
Inky decided to go to this forbidden off limits zone
that was in the universe, right, and the forbidden off

(01:50:40):
limits zone was forbidden and off limits for a reason
because it hosted these these dark, malevolent kinds of entities.
And when he went there, he basically got infiltrated with
these arconic beings and whenever he came back, that's what

(01:51:01):
released these parasite, arconic energy sucking vampires into our reality.
And it makes sense because a lot of people think
that Inky went a little crazy and like off the rails.
And then Inky is also referred to as you know
Satan or Lucifer as well in the Bible. And then

(01:51:22):
that gets into how you know, Inky was really the
serpent in the Garden of Eden, and he brought the
knowledge to Adam and Eve from the archons, right, and
then that's what you know, kick them out of the
garden into this three D physical reality of Robert Stanley

(01:51:45):
also talks about this how it wasn't necessarily an apple
that Adam and Eve ate, that it was actually a baby.
It was actually a legitimate physical child that Adam and
Eve because they can figure out how to get it
to stop crying, and they had never encountered a child

(01:52:09):
before in the garden, and Lucifer, which is you know,
can be referred to as Inky, was the one that
brought them this child. And then that's where the cannibalistic
nature of these entities here on this planet has come from,
has gone all the way back from Adam and Eve.

Speaker 1 (01:52:30):
Man. That's that's insane. That's I've never heard that take
on it, but it would make a lot of sense,
especially when you look at the levels of psychopathy, the
behaviors that we see in elite factions, the occult practices,
and when especially the sick things that they do when
it comes to young children. This all leads back to

(01:52:54):
what I had alluded to earlier, is this ancient Babylonian
dealt that they have at these practices. But it seems
at once, some point in our history maybe we overcame
that and we were doing better and it came back.
We have been completely infiltrated as humans. As far as
our spirituality goes, we have no idea what we are

(01:53:18):
as spiritual beings. According to mainstream history and mainstream religions
and the Abrahamic religions, it's all muddled and confused, and
it's done intentionally, and that has been done in the past.
You know, I could say a thousand years, I could
say more. I have no idea how long we've been
infiltrated by this kind of parasitic type of Abrahamic religion

(01:53:43):
prison that we're in to keep people from seeing the truth.
But there are gatekeepers, there are individuals, high level gatekeepers
that want to keep this system going. And you know,
it makes me wonder at the top, the gatekeepers have
to be answering to somebody, you know, and that's where
we get to the possibility of either interdimensional beings or

(01:54:05):
extraterrestrials or you know, just really advanced humans that used
to be here a while ago and they were just
you know, highly advanced, considered themselves of a royal bloodline,
and they stay out of the light. They stay hidden
in the shadows or underground and in control of everything.
But it's so hard to talk about some of these

(01:54:29):
topics because we don't know, we don't have any evidence,
we don't know who's at the top, if it's humans,
But we can some of the levels of behavior are
extremely psychotic and not related to normal human behaviors.

Speaker 3 (01:54:46):
Yeah, I believe that the religions have been all been misinterpreted.
The original message has been shifted, changed, manipulated, infiltrated to
lose the actual real message. I mean, if you look
at Jesus's words, First off, Jesus says that he does
nothing but speak in parables. Right in the Book of

(01:55:07):
Matthew says that Jesus never spoke without a parable right.
And also Jesus never said one time in the Bible,
he never refers to God, He never says God one
time in the Bible. He always refers to God as
my father. Right, Well, who's his father? His father could

(01:55:31):
be anybody, you know. And you know a lot of
people have put their spin and their their translation on
it because they believe that he was the son of
God born of a virgin birth and all this, and
you know, which is completely impossible. You can't have a
child without intercourse. That's just the way. I mean, you

(01:55:52):
can't now with artificial insemination and stuff like that. But
you know, not back in that day that the sex
different back then in the times of Adam and even
the whole Bible. We can get into this whole topic,
but it's all metaphorical, and it's all allegorical. It's not
meant to be taken literal. It's it's only it's not

(01:56:13):
a history book, right, It's it's written in code, and
there's hidden messages in there, and you have to be
able to cipher that message. Right. And that's where the
word lou cipher comes from. Right, when you look up
the word etymology of Lucifer, you get lu cipher, right.

(01:56:37):
And Lucifer is only actually mentioned in the Bible once
in the Book of Isaiah, and it was actually a
mistranslation from the from the Sanskript word morning star, right,
So it's the word loose cipher was actually put into

(01:56:59):
the Bible to let people know that it's not meant
to be taken literal, that there's a code, that there's
a hidden meaning in there, and it needs to be ciphered.
It needs to be lou ciphered, you know. And that's
why that whole entity and that word was even put
into the Bible in the first place. And on its

(01:57:20):
it's really interesting Paul Knight really broke this whole thing
down and decoded the word uh loose cipher. And that's
another thing, is word etymology is so important in the
way that we use our words, because you know, everyone
knows that that words are spells, right, and when you
break down the words, you get completely different meanings of

(01:57:42):
the words. When you look up the broken down version
of words, you can actually figure out what it really
means because it's been again that has been hidden too.
And you know through uh, you know numerology too. The
way that they do a lot of their rituals is
through numerology, and you can look up Jamatria where you

(01:58:03):
can actually translate words into numerology to get a deeper
meaning of it too. And they've changed our language so much, Chris.
They've made it to where no one knows the real
true meaning of things. And they're always adding words. Every year.
The dictionary just gets bigger and bigger and bigger. And
they add all these freaking slang words and shit into

(01:58:26):
the dictionary too to muddy the waters more so people
have no idea what the words mean, and they don't
even know what they're saying when they're saying the words.

Speaker 1 (01:58:35):
You know, yeah, one hundred percent. Man, Now they this
religion is obviously become a tool for our enslavement since
for a very long time now. For the past uh,
I'd say maybe even one hundred years, people have been

(01:58:58):
changing when it comes to their religious practices and its
popularity the Abrahamic religions. It seems like the magical spell
that these Abrahamic religions held over people is starting to break,
and the elites are looking for a new spell, a
new grand type of religion for people, and I think

(01:59:19):
that comes in through technology. I think it's already began
through social media where they want us to go with technology,
the impending metaverse, and of course the blind belief system
of our medical culture has become another type of religious cult,
but that's something a little different. They need something to

(01:59:40):
get people all on board with, and it's either this
technocratic type of transhuman society or it's going to be aliens.
I mean, we've already seen the push in the mainstream,
and we've pushed the push from our government and Pentagon
to say that aliens are something exists and we don't
know what it is, and they have high technology and

(02:00:00):
their threat and they're coming in our airspace and we
need to start looking into it. Well, that could lead
us in many different directions, but it could also lead
us to some sort of new religion because we have
to worship these highly advanced beings that either going to
save our planet. Maybe, I don't know what do you
think about that aspect?

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
Yes, the new religion is basically New Age, right, but
there's so much proof that the CIA basically created the
whole New Age movement and that it's been infiltrated. I mean,
we haven't seen any you know, of the words. And

(02:00:40):
it's really interesting how religion started to falling off, right,
and how the churches were, their congregations were lowering and
lowering and lowering, and then there was this huge, huge
push for you know, New Age thoughts ideas and beliefs,
you know, like ascension and five D and all these
these new concepts that aren't actually new. They're just regurgitated

(02:01:07):
from much older religions, just like how Christianity was regurgitated
from much older religions. You know, the Samerian tax ancient Egyptian.
The Bible is basically just the greatest hits album of
all of these much older, way older religions, all compiled
into one with some name changes and some name differences. Right,

(02:01:27):
So that's exactly what they've done again and they've just
taken all of these thoughts and ideas from Buddhism, from Hinduism,
from the Harmatic principles and mangled it all up into
one and created this new religion of New Age basically.

(02:01:49):
And sometimes I get confused with you know, people think
that my show is a new Age channel, and it's
not a new age channel, you know. And just because
I say that, you know, I talk all things sexualities,
some people tend to lump me in the category of
new age, but that's not what I'm in. I just
have an open mind to any thoughts, ideas, and beliefs.

(02:02:09):
You know, nothing is off limits. I take everything into
being a possibility. Right Just because I, you know, bring
someone on my show doesn't mean that I necessarily believe
every single thing that they're saying, you know. I just
think that it's interesting and that I think that they
have something important to say. Right. But as far as
the aliens, the et is coming, and I don't, I mean,

(02:02:36):
it's a possibility that that I don't think that they're
ever going to reveal any kind of et or any
kind of alien because I don't think that they're that
they're actually here in a in a three D physical body, right.
I think that the way that you contact ET's and
the way that you contact aliens is through your consciousness.

(02:02:57):
The spiritual contact. It's a consciousness contact. It's not a
something physical. It's not something tangible. Now, if there are
physical ets and there are physical beings, then they're not
They're using a an avatar to shift their conscious and

(02:03:18):
put their consciousness into so that they can interact in
this three D reality, you know. And that avatar can
be anything. It can be, it can look like us.
That's how they blend in with us. I think that
there's more ets and human avatars on the planet than
there are actual crazy, uh you know, scary looking ets

(02:03:39):
on the planet. I think that those are very few,
and they they rarely or very seldom come here. Because
if they did, and they were here on a on
a three D physical level, how would they handle our atmosphere?
You know, every planet's atmosphere is completely different. They would
have to have some kind of special conditions to roam
around in this on the planet. Right, So it's much

(02:04:03):
easier for them to create a human kind of looking
avatar that is sustainable on this planet and then transfer
their consciousness into that avatar and then they're able to
interact with you know, beings and people here on this planet.
I don't subscribe to the theory that there are actual

(02:04:27):
that there are any actual ets from outside of our
planet that are physically here on the planet, other than
maybe some ets that have already been here that's already
adapted to the Earth and that is kind of indigenous
to the population of Earth, like the Inner maybe some

(02:04:48):
Inner Earth civilizations and some Reptilian Earth based Reptilian beings
you know, that are living inside of the Earth. Those
are the only extra terrestrial and all, but are not
really extraterrestrial. They're terrestrial beans that's been here for a
really long time. I think that there's any beans from
outside of our planet that is here in a three

(02:05:10):
D physical et body because it's not sustainable.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Right, And I was kind of thinking more along the
lines of that if they do want us to head
towards like this et type of ruled religion that they
would manufacture, that it would be a complete fakery. Because
you know, I agree with you on many levels, and
I'm completely on the fence about physical ets in general.

(02:05:36):
So I doubt that if we would see anything like
that that it would be anything genuine and that it
would be completely manufactured because and I think that that's
one of the reasons why we're seeing so much talk
of UFOs and UAPs from the Pentagon and from these
players that they've inserted into the UFO community that are

(02:05:57):
trying to get everybody to go towards it's a certain direction,
is that they may have something fake planned. I mean,
whether it's they're already showing us the TR three b's
and their tic TACs and all the stuff that this
is theirs, this is our equipment. This is physical craft
that we probably engineered or reverse engineered somehow. But all

(02:06:20):
the stuff that we see on a regular basis is
most likely ours. And if they're showing us our stuff,
it's most likely going to be our deception. That's going
to be aliens.

Speaker 3 (02:06:33):
Yeah. So that's exactly what they're doing, and that is
the huge cover up in the huge deception that we
have on our hands, is that there are no UFO
extraterrestrial craft. All the craft that you see in the
sky is us. It's our military that we've had the

(02:06:56):
technology for decades, since the end of World War Two.
We've had this highly advanced technology, this anti gravity kinds
of craft. I mean, there were people that were working
on these kinds of flying machines back in the late
eighteen hundreds, right, there was a group in California. I

(02:07:16):
forget what the name of it, but Penny Bradley talks
about something. I can't remember the name off the top
of my head. I might think about it here in
a little bit. But we've had these kinds of craft
for a really, really long time, right, And the only
way that they can release that technology and make it
seem like it's by making it seem like it's something

(02:07:40):
it's an extraterrestrial threat.

Speaker 2 (02:07:42):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:07:42):
If they were to just come out and be like, hey, yes,
all this technology is ours and we've had it for
a long time, there would be way too many questions.
People would be like, well, how long have you had it?
Why have you been keeping this? Right? There would be
like a revolt on their hands. Right. So in order
to release the technology, they have to make it seem
like it's something that it's not, and the easiest way

(02:08:03):
to do that is to blame it on an illusionary
outside force. So they constantly blame it on aliens. It's
a threat, it's a fear. You know, louel Is Andre
is the biggest proponent of the threat narrative and the
fear narrative, and same with George Knapp and all of
these people are constantly it's a fear, it's a threat

(02:08:25):
because they are going to make it a threat. They're
going to make it a fear thing. That's what they're
that's what they're turning it into. And it's not a
external attack. It's going to be an attack done by
our own craft, by our own military. And I tend
to believe that it's it's not going to be a

(02:08:48):
like a completely fake thing, that it's going to be
a real event. But the fake thing is that it's extraterrestrials.
When it's not extraterrestrials, it's actually us in our highly
developed craft. And that's why they'll never show you a
actual et body on any of these crafty They'll be

(02:09:10):
maybe on the news, they'll might show you like, uh,
you know, one of the t R three b b's
or one of our reverse engineer advanced craft, right, but
you're never going to see uh, an actual physical three
D alien because there isn't any you know, and and there.

(02:09:34):
I believe that there have been physical ets and aliens
has come to our planet, but they don't anymore, right
because we have our airspace lockdown, the military has our
airspace lockdown. There isn't any real unidentified crafts from outside
of our planet that are allowed on to operate in

(02:09:55):
our airspace unless they're permitted to, right, and if they
do come in, then they are targeted, their shot down
there hit with these directed energy weapons. That was a
part of what happened in Roswell was that was a
get back on from the men's you know, we went
to Antarctica to you know, find the leftover Germans and

(02:10:18):
they destroyed us. And Richard E. Bird, you know, went
with his naval fleet to Antarctica and they you know,
destroyed us with their superior technology and their superior craft.
And what we did was we couldn't figure out the technology.
We couldn't figure out the craft. So we were like, Okay,
what's the next best option. Well, we'll just build a
device that can shoot him out of the sky, right,

(02:10:38):
We'll build some kind of directed energy weapons, some kind
of frequency weapon that can just hit him out of
the sky. Because we can't figure out how to operate it.
We don't have any of the schematics to build these
kinds of craft, so we'll just developed something that can
destroy them. And that's what they did. Roswell was a

(02:10:58):
directed energy weapon attack in order to take down the craft,
and there was more than one craft that was taken
down during Roswell, and there was multiple two to three
craft that was actually taken down. But that's basically what
they've done, and it's evolved, you know, from there, and

(02:11:20):
we've got all this highly advanced technology that's evolved out
of that. And that's a big reason why all of
the craft that was seen from the fifties all the
way up into the late nineties were all disc shaped,
tin can looking craft, because that was the kind of
limited technology that we were working with back then. And
now that our technology has developed further, we have all

(02:11:42):
of these different kinds of plasma craft, these morphine craft,
the lights and all that, and then people want to
equate that to extraterrestrials because they've never seen it before. Meanwhile,
we've just been developing this since the fifties, you know,
and we've created these on our own. And that's a

(02:12:04):
big reason too why there's all these three letter agencies
and these counterintelligence people in the community. Is the first
thing that they do is when they get on there
is they're like, oh, yeah, the military definitely doesn't have
any craft. It's like this, we don't have any of
those kinds of capabilities. Right, And that's done right off

(02:12:24):
the rip to get you on the et train, right.
And then when everyone starts, when anyone starts to try
and figure out that it's not extraterrestrial craft and it's
not aliens, it's flying around in our airspace, it's actually us.
They are there to bring the conversation right back to ekeys,

(02:12:44):
right back to extraterrestrials, because that's their agenda, and they
have to make something outside of us that can't be explained.
You can just explain it away with just saying, oh, yeah,
it's aliens.

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:12:58):
I know, I've probably sent you a few of the
memes of that guy from Incinine Aliens with the hair.
The hair that he's like, I don't know what it is,
but it's probably definitely aliens, right. That's the that's their
explanation around anything that's unexplainable that's happening. They'll just be like, oh, yeah,
it's aliens, you know, because they don't have to explain

(02:13:20):
it any further.

Speaker 1 (02:13:22):
Yeah, Man, there is definitely some shenanigans that when it
comes to the et agendas. Now, I'm gonna tell you
and the audience something that I don't think I've ever
told anyone in my life before. And this happened when
I was I think, man, it was my first year
of junior high or something like that, and I was

(02:13:44):
going to a Christian school. My parents sent me to
a Christian and Catholic elementary school and then they started
me in a Christian junior high school. Well, I couldn't
take it anymore to that. I went to a public
high school left of that because it was just I
saw the brainwashing. I just couldn't, you know, articulate what

(02:14:05):
was happening. I didn't know at the time. I was
too young. Well I can see everything now, and man,
the brainwashing was crazy at even at some of these
Christian Catholic schools when it came to religious and doctrine eight. Now,
one of the things that creeped me out the most
that I've ever been creeped out in my life was
during junior high I think it was maybe ninth grade.

(02:14:28):
They were just at this Christian school is a very
small school, by the way, they were showing these videos
of in times videos, and I wish I would have
known the title of this video. I wish I would
have known who put this motherfucker out, because I'd be
showing everybody right now and I'd be going, look at
that shit. So what it was was basically an end

(02:14:49):
time scenario that whatever whoever put this video, they mapped
out everything. And when I saw this, this was in
about ninety ninety three or ninety four. When I saw
this video, there were showing scenes like apocalyptic scenes of
how the apocalypse and the Book of Revelation would play

(02:15:11):
out in reality. And it's what we're seeing right now.
We're seeing the kind of fake portrayal of disease and
plague in the media. They showed that. They showed fake
UFOs that are staged by our government. They showed that.
And this is like a cheesy video where they had
cheesy actors and they just kind of mashed these scenes
of stock footage together. But still somebody put this video together.

(02:15:36):
Back in the day, somebody had an idea that there's
this kind of revelations type of playbook that is to
be kind of unfolding in the future. And first of all,
I want to know who made that video. Wish it
could go back to the school and ask him about it.
But that was in South Louisiana. It was a small
shin school and it was crazy. But that's not the
only video I've seen like that. Probably come from you know,

(02:15:59):
some corporate Christian bookstores and like that that puts out
these these videos. But you know, it makes you think
that there's some type of playbook or kind of agenda
that going off of that is even time base that's
based on astrology, because we've seen all these events happen
at a certain astrological time and I think that's another

(02:16:22):
huge aspect that needs to be looked at too, what's
happening astrologically. But I had to tell that story because
that's that's one of the craziest things that's happened in
my childhood that kind of points pointed to the future
that we're headed to in a cheesy Christian video.

Speaker 3 (02:16:39):
That's really interesting. And I went to a private Christian
school as well. When you're saying that, I'm trying to
rack my brain to see if I went there from
the sixth grade and I actually graduated from there, and
I'm trying to rack my brain to see if there
is anything weird that they were kind of showing us.

(02:17:00):
But I think that it's interesting that that it's from
the Christian side, from the Abrahamic side of it. That
that's because on one hand, you know, there they have
some things, right, It's just that that they they're so
locked into this this Jesus thing and the and the

(02:17:22):
God thing that that exkews their perception like they're they're like,
oh yeah, the rapture, Like the raptures like the biggest
thing that Christians always look to, that that God is
going to come down and and Jesus is going to
come down and leave us and rapture us up in
the end times. And I don't think that that's possible.

(02:17:44):
I don't think that that's ever going to happen. I mean,
you know, have we ever seen a snake unraveling from
a tree. Have we ever seen anybody you know partying? Uh?
Seas have we seen a staff you know, turn turn
into a snake. But it's what we do see is
we see cgi effects, right, Like they're doing that, you know,

(02:18:10):
on our devices, they're doing that on our TV. And
that's another way that it can be explained. I do
believe that, you know, some things in the Bible are
like a prophecy kind of book. But again, it's in
code and it's and it's written not how it's actually
really going to play out, and it's just going to

(02:18:30):
be a different version of it. For like, it's going
to be like a modernized kind of version. But my
thoughts always been, what if there is a group or
a group of entities behind the scenes that's purposefully making

(02:18:51):
these the kind of the Bible happen, right, that they're
actually out there tinkering with things to make the Book
of Revelations kind of happen in their own way, right,
and then that's really what they're trying to do, and
they're trying it might not be that they able lieve

(02:19:12):
in you know, you know, the stuff, or they believe
in God, or they believe in Jesus. Some groups could
be doing that just to see if Jesus will come back,
right or something like that. You never know what these
looney been psychopaths are doing. But that's always been kind
of a thought that's been in the back of my
head is what if there's a group behind the scenes
is kind of making these things kind of happen in

(02:19:33):
order to kind of reveal the Book of Revelations. And
then that's what's kind of got everyone in an uproar.
You know, we haven't seen you know, this is the
biggest Christianity and you know, God and Jesus praying people
have been in the past thirty years. Was in twenty twenty,
you know what I mean, everyone kind of jumped back

(02:19:56):
to Christianity and the people that you know, we're into
Christianity even before that, were went head first into it,
you know. And but I think that it is that
would be really cool to try and find that that video,
but it was probably one that was made on a
VHS because I'm sure it was on a VHS player

(02:20:17):
and you probably wouldn't be able to find it anywhere.
But that would be really really said that they had
the fake alien invasion.

Speaker 1 (02:20:25):
And they had they had fake alien invasion, they had
a pandemic. I don't know if they were eluding that
it was causing, but they eluded that the aliens were
caused by our government. They had people dying in the streets,
they have wars and of course rumors of war all
over the place.

Speaker 3 (02:20:43):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:20:44):
And it was it and strange technological advancements that were
causing problems for people. Like it was an hour long
video of what we would experience during the end times.
And yeah, it had poor production value and it was
a lot of Mitch match stock footage and horrible acting.
But it had an effect on me back then because

(02:21:05):
I was like, wow, you know that that happens, That's
gonna be crazy. And then I start to see all
this stuff kind of unfold from what I saw in
a video in the ninth grade from this Christian school.
It's like, damn, man, somebody knows fucking something. They need
to start talking right now.

Speaker 3 (02:21:23):
Yeah, it's really cool that you were able to see
that and actually remember it, you know, and and it's
stick with you. I mean, that could have been a huge,
you know, reason why you kind of got into this
in the first place. Was kind of seen that video.

Speaker 1 (02:21:38):
Well, you know, I think that this was a common thing.
I think that they have these videos still today. You
could probably find some of these videos. I think that
it's all just like you know what, Hollywood and the
media shows us through movies. It's all in our consciousness already.
I think we already know what's gonna unfold on some
level of our deep down consciousness. I think that as
a collective we kind of even caused some of these

(02:21:59):
things to have And it's like an giant infinite cycle,
and it's like we are living in this infinity symbol
of this looping reality, and we probably on some level
already knew this was happening and kind of channel that
or get that from the Kashak records or the ether
or wherever we're pulling this information from. And we use
it for Hollywood, we use it for art, we use

(02:22:21):
it as prophecy, we use it to kind of show ourselves, Look,
this is going to happen. We know this already. I
don't know how we know it, but we know it,
and that's what I think happens oftentimes.

Speaker 3 (02:22:32):
Yeah, I agree that everything is out there. It's all
in an information data field. I mean, everything is data.
If you subscribe to that we're in a holographic simulated reality,
then all this is going to be made up of numbers, right,
It's all going to be ones and zeros, right, So
you're able to tap in to that data field, then

(02:22:54):
you would be able to pull in any kind of
information from the past, you'd be able to pull in
information from the present and information from the future. And
I have to agree with you that I think that
that's what some of these some people that have had
these kinds of prophecies and are able to put together
these very elaborate, elaborate events and elaborate things. I mean,

(02:23:17):
there's some that are really down to detail, like the
movie about the whole virus thing. I can't remember what
the name of us called. It came out in twenty
and thirteen. Contagion. Contagion hit everything, all of it. It
hit the riots, it hit the virus, it hit the vaccine,

(02:23:41):
you know, And that was in twenty and thirteen. Now,
I don't know if that's more of a you know,
something that was being fed to the director and the
producers of the movie from you know, a higher level
you know thing. But I do think a lot of
it is, you know, from our thoughts, us speculating out
in the world and you know, doing things based off

(02:24:04):
of what we've kind of seen before in the natural
progression of things in common sense and critical thinking on
the way that the things, you know, can go because
some people have gotten a lot of things wrong, and
some people have gotten a lot of things right. You know,
it's just and people's you know, they still put it out,
you know, but I think that it's uh, you know,

(02:24:25):
I've gotten a lot of things wrong too. Like I
had a whole I had a whole video made of
that I never released, And I'm glad that I didn't that,
uh that I thought that they were going to eliminate
Biden right right off of the jump before the election
in twenty twenty, and then they were going to put

(02:24:47):
Michelle Obama in there with Kamala Harris and it was
going to be a dynamic duo of women, a power couple.
Women get some you know, uh lesbian action going on.
You know, who knows. But I'm glad I didn't put
that video off. But I believe that at the time,
you know, I was like, this seems plausible. You know,

(02:25:07):
they could probably do this. They could eliminate Biden right
off the rip shoehorning Michell Obama, and that would just
create the division and the separation even more because at
that time, in twenty twenty, it was all, you know,
black lives matter. Black lives matter, even though Kamala Harris
isn't even black, you know, she's Persian in Jamaican. And
also it's I thought that the doing put that in there,

(02:25:31):
and then you know, and you know, create the division
even more. But what I've realized is anything that is
super extreme, it's probably not going to happen. It's more
it's more subtle actions, and it's more subtly done. It's
overtly done, you know, anything that's crazy and wild, Like

(02:25:52):
was all talked about the arrest and all the c
stuff that they're taking these people to Guantanamo and doing
all this because and Trump is the savior and all that.
Like I never bought into any of that, you know,
I was like, no, this is not there's no way
that's going to happen. They still have to make it
believable and make it real. So it's more it's more

(02:26:14):
covert actions, and it's a slow drip drip process like
we're seeing right now with the supply chain stuff and
the slow demise of our economy and the slow destruction
of the imploding dollar, you know, and then it's just
going to come to a head. And it's eventually going
to explode, but the explosion can't come until it's reached

(02:26:41):
such a point that it can't be a bird anymore,
you know, And I think that that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 (02:26:50):
So, yeah, it is. It is a slow boil kind
of thing. It's frustrating in many ways, but also on
the other hand, it had happened a lot quit many
and I thought we would ever see. So it's it's
a double edged store where we're looking at right now.
And I think we're in a very critical time that
we're about to enter. And you're right, man, I remember

(02:27:11):
back in twenty sixteen, seventeen, I thought the planet was
going to end because Planet X was about to hit
us and blow us up. So things change, Things change.
You gotta keep one when it comes to some of
this stuff. But uh, yeah, you know, maybe Planet X
would have been a better option than than what we're
going through right now. I don't know. It would have
been quicker. Maybe, uh, maybe we still have Planet X

(02:27:31):
to come. Who knows. It's always I'm always open to cataclysms,
you know, I'm always welcoming they can they can always come.
But we think we should we should tell the audience
closing out, give them a little maybe hope. And for
people that are, like we said earlier, just waking up
to some of this stuff, this has got to be
awful time for them, a lot of a lot of
things to consider, a lot of search to start doing.

(02:27:54):
But what would you tell people that are just kind
of coming around to this Maybe they're just hearing this
for the fur the uh and there for the first
time in their awakening process, and uh maybe offer some
uh some solutions for getting out of the this matrix
reality that that most people are plugged into.

Speaker 3 (02:28:18):
Well, unfortunately, things, certain things have to happen in this
uh three D physical reality in order to sustain it. Right,
you can't just get rid of the bad and and
expect there is just to be only love and night
in peace. That's not the way that our reality works.
It doesn't work on that level, right, And that's the

(02:28:39):
biggest thing to to really realize. And when you realize
that that certain things have to happen here, uh, then
you realize that it really doesn't matter in the grand
scheme of things, Kay, that that this whole thing is
a game and we're being played, We're being played on

(02:28:59):
a huge, huge scale, and once you realize that none
of it matters on higher levels of dimensions, and once
you die, and once you get out of here, then
you can go someplace else. If you've taken care of
your issues and your problems, and you've taken care of
your traumas, and you've gotten rid of all of your

(02:29:22):
baggage and all the things that's been holding you down
for a long time, you can have the choice not
to come back here, and you can go someplace better,
you know, and not worry about anything. Things are going
to happen the way that they're going to happen. There's
really nothing that we can do about it but take
care of ourselves and worry about ourselves. You know that stuff,

(02:29:45):
And that sounds selfish, but that's really the way that
it goes. Is kind of like what I was alluding
to earlier, right the dark side tests and see if
you are going to help somebody else before you help yourself.
And this might be backwards to people because some people

(02:30:05):
think that you should help others before you help yourself,
but that's the inversion. You should be helping yourself before
you help anybody else, right, And that's what they're looking for.
They're seeing if you are going to sacrifice yourself to
help somebody that you are going to go down with them. Right.

(02:30:27):
It's like jumping into a river or a pond or
the ocean and you can't swim in order to try
and help somebody else that can't swim. Right. If you
do that, then you're both going to die. He's going
to drown. Right. So you don't get involved in other

(02:30:51):
people's business, right, Like, you stay in your own lane
and you do your own thing. It's like if you're
sitting in a clouds room. Right. It's like knowing your
place in the world, right, and knowing when to say something,
when not to say something, when to do something, when
not to do something, because it's not always your place

(02:31:11):
to do something. Right. It's like if you're sitting in
a classroom, you're in college. Let's just say you're in
high school.

Speaker 1 (02:31:19):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:31:21):
You're in high school. You're sitting with all of your
other classmates in a classroom, and you're sitting there and
the teacher doesn't show up. Right, teacher doesn't come. What
do you do? Right? Are you going to stand up
and start teaching that class? No, you're not because it's

(02:31:42):
not your place. You know, that's not your role, that's
not what you do. You're not the teacher, so why
would you act like you're the teacher. You can't fill
his role, you know. So it's really about knowing your place,
knowing when to say something, knowing when to do something,

(02:32:03):
and knowing when not to. That's the best advice that
I can really give anyone that was given to me
that has served me well and serve me the best
and in my life is is just to know your
place and don't get involved with other people, and don't

(02:32:26):
go out of your way to to help other people,
you know, like that, Like, if it's something that is
easily done and that is no that does not put
you out of the way of doing, then obviously do it.
But don't go out of your way to put yourself

(02:32:48):
through stress, fear and worry to do something for someone else,
you know, And that might catch some people off guard.
And I hope that I'm not being people aren't getting
my words confused here because it is a difficult thing
to explain and related across in the proper way. But basically,

(02:33:12):
just stay in your lane, do your own thing, don't
worry about what other people are doing, and just take
care of yourself and everything is going to be fine.
Everything's going to work out. All the other worldly stuff
just falls away, right. It doesn't mean that you can't
talk about it. You know, we've been talking about it
for almost an hour and a half here, and I,
you know, because I think that it's that it's fun

(02:33:34):
and I like talking about it. You know, that doesn't
that doesn't mean that I'm in fear. And that doesn't
mean that I think that the world is ending and
that I'm going to die tomorrow and all these things
are going to happen next week. They're not. You know,
it's not going to happen like that. You know, I

(02:33:56):
just like talking about it because I think that it's
interesting and I'm not scared. I'm not worried about it,
bringing whatever whatever they got, you know, who cares? You know,
this life is is is limited anyway, We're in a
very limited reality with everything that we have around us.
You know, I'm whatever happens happens, I'm actually excited for it.

(02:34:17):
Bring on the apocalypse, Let's let's get it going. I'm right,
I'm tired of the slow burn nonsense. Bullshit. You know,
let's just get to the end and let's build something
better for everyone. Let's figure out a new way, let's
figure out a new system that's beneficial for all of humanity,
and let's let's do it soon, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:34:37):
Right on, man.

Speaker 1 (02:34:38):
Yeah, Uh, there's there's there's a lot of that that
that I do agree with, you know, as as far
as when it comes to you know, helping others, there's
this is a a kind of sliding scale type thing
that uh, I think you should take on an individual
basis of course, but I think number when you're right overall,
you should take care of yourself first before we should

(02:34:59):
even attempt to help anyone else do anything. Because if
you're not on a solid foundation, you're not on a
solid ground yourself, there's nothing you can offer anyone else
to begin with. So there, you know, there's this is
something that I think needs to be you know, taken
in on for each of course, each into each person's
individual basis to to win. If it's them in their

(02:35:20):
own lives and what they feel is important in their
own spiritual growth, uh, you know, if it if they
feel that they that in helping someone it could help
themselves grow spiritually. You know, that I think is something
that's that's good. But in no way I think that
you should avoid traps. I think there are certain people

(02:35:43):
on this planet that are here to trap you in
certain aspects, uh because they are in no way ready
to help themselves in their lives. So they latch onto
you or a certain person to to try and bring
them to a certain level and get them to to
to a certain uh point in their lives where they
feel better about things and they're evolved. But they're more

(02:36:06):
of a parasite to two people. And I think that's
where you have to avoid. That's what you have to
be careful of. Is traps and spiritual traps and emotional
traps and relationship traps, just people that don't serve you.
If you're not getting any kind of beneficial, mutual kind
of exchange of energy from the people you're involved with

(02:36:27):
in your life, I don't think there should be any
involved involvement anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:36:31):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:36:31):
You know, I think we have to be careful of
who we put into our lives these days. And if
you know, no matter what, if we make the choice
to bring someone into our lives, have as equal of
exchange as energy between people as possible, and uh, you know,
just do what you feel would be best for you,

(02:36:53):
but not only that, do what you would do unto others,
you know, just that that type of deal. But it's
a it's a it's a hard conversation when it gets
into a lot of these spiritual answers and a lot
of these philosophical things that we talk about, and it
pisses people off because they have no understanding of what
they really want from their own spiritual side. They are

(02:37:15):
on their own spiritual understanding and they haven't gotten there yet.
And what we discuss here on these shows, these are
all just discussed. That's that's it. We're discussing things. We're
putting forward ideas because if these ideas aren't put forward,
they no one will. They're just gonna sit in the
ether waiting for some to pop into someone else's head. Well,
they popped into our heads today, and we're discussing them

(02:37:36):
just like we're supposed to be doing, because that's our
journey here. We our journey is to get in front
of here and tell people what our truth is, our feelings,
and they can do with it and take it and
do with it what they want, and that's the equal
exchange that we provide for the audience is information, and
they can either take it or leave it, or hate
it or love it. But that's what we do. We

(02:37:58):
provide it, and that's all we can do. And it's
not ever going to be right or wrong. For certain
people it may be, but for us, it's just our truth.
And that's what we're here to do, is tell our truth.
And we're always gonna get up here and tell our
truth because I think that's that's definitely my job for
this for this portion of my existence on this incarnation

(02:38:18):
on this planet, UH, is to provide my truth and
help other peoples to provide theirs uh and bring a
voice to to the masses. So yeah, I think that
we're living in very crucial, crucial times and we've got
we've got a lot to look forward to. H I'm
excited to man. I think we've got we've got some

(02:38:39):
fun times ahead. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:38:42):
I don't mean, don't you know, don't do stuff for
your friends and and don't do stuff for your your family.
Obviously you need to do that right or you're not
going to have any friends, or you're not going to
have any family or that you might but not gonna
like you very much. Right, I'm saying like in a

(02:39:04):
in a worldly in a worldly fashion, like, don't go
out of your way to h to like help people.
And again, that doesn't mean don't hold the door open
for somebody who that's walking into a gas station or
walking into a grocery store or doing simple, common courteous things, right,

(02:39:24):
it just means like.

Speaker 1 (02:39:27):
Don't make your life worth trying to help someone else
out there.

Speaker 3 (02:39:30):
Exactly, That's exactly what I'm trying to say. I thank you, Chris,
appreciate it a lot. I was having in trouble with
my words there, but exactly, don't make your situation worse
trying to because it doesn't serve either of you. It
just makes things worse for the both of you, you know.
And then people have you know, tend to think, oh, well,

(02:39:50):
why didn't this work out? Why didn't I did blah
blah blah blah. Well, I mean you know that that's
because you weren't, uh you were you weren't ready to
be able to, you know, do the thing that was
required of you, you know, and that's where the problems
and everything occur. But yeah, I think that that's ah,

(02:40:11):
I agree with you at one hundred percent. That you know,
these are just thoughts, ideas and beliefs that that we
that we have and if people people will take it
as as they want. Right, there's no reason to get
in an uproar, get angry, or get triggered by anything
that we say.

Speaker 1 (02:40:28):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:40:28):
It's just an open way that we can communicate and
try and share our thoughts, ideas and beliefs. And it
doesn't mean that that we're necessarily right. I'll be the
first person to tell you that I'm wrong, and I'll
come out and say, oh, hey, I'm sorry, I'm wrong. Right,
That's an honorable and ethical and moral thing to do.
And we've gotten into this trap of not admitting when

(02:40:52):
that we do something right. And I'm always the first
person to say that if I've done something that I've
done it right in my person, relationships with my you know,
friendships with my family. And I wasn't always like that.
But doesn't get you anywhere. Not being honest and telling
people straightforward and telling people exactly how it is. It

(02:41:15):
just creates more cover up, some more problems, and then
it just ends up coming out later on and then
you have to cover up your tracks and deny it,
and then it creates this whole reality of never taking
responsibility for anything in your life. Right. It starts at
a small macro level on an individual level, and then

(02:41:35):
it expands out and they think, oh, well, I got
away with it with my friend, then I'll be able
to get away with it at my business. Right, I'll
be able to get away with it at my job,
and then I'll be able to get away with it
with my family. And then it just snowballs into this
whole reality that we've been living for several years, is
that we've created on our own that's fake as shit,

(02:41:58):
you know, and no one can seem to get out of.
But they were the ones that create from the very start,
from the very beginning. See, all this has everything to
do with us. It doesn't have anything to do with
the the outside manipulation. Yeah, there might be some outside
manipulation that's going on, right, but the majority of it
is us do it to ourselves. It's exactly what it is.

(02:42:21):
It's our fault. It's our responsibility, and it's the lack
of us taking responsibility and the lack of us not
having the willingness to change and lacking in our morals,
lacking in our honor, lacking in our respect. That's been

(02:42:44):
the whole problem from the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (02:42:46):
One hundred percent.

Speaker 3 (02:42:47):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:42:47):
We've been trying to correct mistakes with more mistakes on
top of mistakes, and sometimes we just need to reset,
and it's time for a reboot. And that's what we're
headed towards. Man, that's we're seeing right now. We're in
the process to rebooting. So hang on to your pants.
It's gonna be a fun ride. But I hope you're ready.
I'm ready. Whatever happens, just bring it on. Like you said,

(02:43:10):
I'm gonna I'm gonna hold on tight and grip my
teeth and maybe show my nipples a little bit. I
don't know, all right, writer, let everyone know where they
can find all your stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:43:21):
You can find me on a rock fin that raised
by Giants. I recently got that channel. I upload a
premium content episode every week once a week. You can
also find me on YouTube upload there twice a week,
once on Tuesdays and once on Fridays, and everywhere else
that podcasts are served. And thank you so much, Chris,

(02:43:44):
I appreciate you a lot. I appreciate all the work
that you're doing. You're the hardest working podcaster in this industry,
and I appreciate everything that you've done and everything that
you continue to do.

Speaker 1 (02:43:57):
Thank you, brother, I appreciate it very much. Always a
great conversation and we'll definitely do it again soon. Until
next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.
See I'll y'all do in

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