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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show David Ike.
He is author of over twenty one books and numerous DVDs,
a researcher, and he has lectured around the world. He
is a pioneer in presenting the hidden nature of our reality. David,
welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Thank you. I'm very good. Actually, it's it's a mad
house we're living in. It's an asylum we're living in.
But you know, you keep you keep going.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
I do, you do, and that's the only way that
we could ever possibly find a way to break out
of this mad house. And today I'm really excited. We're
going to talk about your new timely book, The Reveal,
the Next Stage of Human Awareness, and this covers everything
from who controls the world as usual to the nature
of the afterlife everything in between. And I'm very excited

(00:57):
about this. And in my perspective, we're at a very
critical stage of our human awareness and much of what
has always been fundamentally wrong with society is just being
brought to light. And this is causing confusion, fear, and
a lot of division right now. And like you said,
it's a mad house. But I've also seen many very

(01:20):
positive changes in the collective, and we're going to get
into that as well. We have a lot to discuss. First,
tell us a little bit about what brought you to
write this book.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
Well, it's part of a trilogy. It's the third book
in a trilogy, started with The Trap, then the Dream,
and then this one. And it's the result of the
way I go about life and research and all that
I do, and that is that I always know, whatever

(01:54):
I conclude at any point, that there's always more to
and I think what I've seen in significant parts of
the what's called the alternative media, is that people get
to a certain point and they think I got it.

(02:14):
What they then do is start to go round and
round and round in like an eddy in the river
and basically repeat the same things. Now, for me, we
need to realize the ludicrous, almost laughable range of frequency

(02:38):
that we are actually aware of. It's insane, you know.
According to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically
our reality, is no point, not five percent of what
exists in the universe in terms of energy and visible light,
which is the only band of frequency that we can see.

(03:00):
Everything we perceive is within that band of frequency. Is
a fraction of the point, not not five percent. So
when you come from that perspective, the one thing you
know is that whatever you think you know, there's always
more to know. So when I started on this long

(03:20):
journey I'm in a thirty fifth year now, in nineteen
ninety I started looking at who really controlled the world,
I mean, one of the forces that really are behind
world events and the direction that human society goes in.

(03:41):
And you realize when you go down that road that
the people that appear to be in power, that presidents,
the prime ministers, the politicians are not at all. There's
a layers behind them, many layers behind them, actually, so
you enter the realm of what I call the shadow people.

(04:03):
Those are the people you never see, but they're pulling
the strings. They're the ones that are always there as
they here today, gone tomorrow. Politicians come and go of
whatever party. So I reached that point quite early in
the nineteen nineties, and then I started coming across very

(04:24):
strange of information, particularly when I was traveling America after
nineteen ninety six, where people were telling me about their
experiences with a non human force, often Reptilian, but not always,
And so I started encompassing that, and you still keep

(04:44):
going because even that, there's always more to know. I mean,
I mean, in fact, once that starts to enter your research,
the questions just explode. You realize there's a hell of
a more ago. And the next stage of it was

(05:06):
when I started to see that this reality that we
think is natural is actually a simulation. It's the equivalent,
the very advanced equivalent, my goodness, of a virtual reality
computer game and the headsets that connect us into the

(05:30):
computer games and take over our sense of reality. So
people are thrashing around or falling off their chairs and screaming.
The human headset is the human body, the human brain,
which is decoding this simulation as a computer decodes Wi Fi.

(05:52):
But still, okay, more questions. What else is there to know?
And so I started then looking at just how big
this simulation really was, because these are the sort of
things that you know, you ponder on. I've traveled all

(06:15):
over the world. I've been too sixty countries. I can't
go to that many now I'm banned from thirty in
Europe and Australia and lots of others. If I tried
to get in. But in the previous period, I traveled
a lot, and what I saw in Asia and Africa
and South America and Central America and other places is

(06:39):
that the vast majority of the human race is not
having a good time. It's trying to survive another day.
And so where this took my thinking was, I can
understand that consciousness could be enticed into this reality to

(07:01):
experience through this biological computer, as I've been calling it
since the nineteen nineties. Once I can understand that, and
by this time I saw the real reality of reincarnation
purely by looking at the tangible evidence. One of the

(07:27):
people that I quote in the reveal is a man
called Ian Stevenson who was born in the early part
of the twentieth century and had died in two thousand
and seven, and he was a psychiatrist. He was an
American Canadian psychiatrist. And he started coming across really small
kids who were remembering what they said were previous lives

(07:53):
in this reality in fine detail, I mean ridiculous by detail.
And so he started checking some of them out just
out of interest and tried to debunk them, uh, and
he couldn't. He realized that he could go to these

(08:15):
places often were a long long way away from the
where the child lived. Uh, and he could support what
they were saying with with evidence, often with people still
alive today. And I remember one he he because he

(08:36):
did thousands of these things. Thousands he didn't just you
know one or two. There was one he was a
little kid who claimed that in a far away place
that he lived there. And so he and he described
the house. So they go to the They go to
the house. Eventually they track down the people in it,

(08:57):
and he claims that the woman in the house was
his wife. At one point the you know, the guys,
the woman's husband had died and so the and he
said lots of things that were obviously true, but what
they said to him was, look, when so and so died,

(09:20):
you claim to be Basically, we couldn't find his will.
Where is it? And the kid walks across to a
floorboard I think it was in the kitchen, and he said,
it's under there, and they got the floorboard up and
there was the bloody will. Right. So you see loads

(09:40):
and loads of these stories, and what Ian Stevenson did
was was forensically researched them. So I've come to the
conclusion quite a while ago that reincarnation was real. What
I didn't buy, and this is what I go into
in the book, in a significant part of the book anyway,

(10:03):
it covers many subjects, interconnected subjects, is that it's to
learn lessons to evolve. I didn't buy that at all.
So what's going on? And what I've I came across
in the writing of them were people who had near

(10:27):
death experiences. But my goodness, me, I have read and
watched so many accounts of near death experiences when the
body ceases to function and they find themselves in a
different reality. I've done it for years and years and
years because I want to, you know, I'm looking for
the common themes, and they are endless the common themes.

(10:49):
And just as an aside, why is it that when
the body ceases to function that these people suddenly experience
a different reality, a completely different reality to this one,
and one that obviously operates with a very different law

(11:12):
of physics as we call them anyway, And it's because
this is decoding this reality. It's decoding this level. There
are other levels we can we just kind of come
to of this simulation, this matrix, And so as soon

(11:32):
as soon and we are experiencing conscious in our consciousness.
What that is feeding us? What this is feeding us?
Just as if I'm looking at this computer now and
I said to people, tell me about the Internet, they

(11:53):
would say, well, it's graphics and it's videos and it's
words on the screen. Well, yes it is, but that's
the only place the Internet exists in that form. Everywhere
else it's Wi Fi field information encoded in radiation fields
and electronic circuits and so on. The only place it
exists is on the screen. And then you think, well,

(12:16):
where is that happening that we are observing. It's happening
inside the computer. It's not over here or over here.
It's inside the computer. That's where all the decoding is
going on. And so as I started to research in
mentoring science version of how we manifest reality, how we

(12:42):
experience reality, you start to realize that actually the five
senses which lock us into this simulation are picking up wavefield,
waveform frequency information. They turn that into electrical information which
is communicated to the brain, which then forms it into

(13:05):
a reality that we experience, actually a digital holographic reality,
alusory physical reality of all we experienced it like that
that appears to be outside of us, grant you it does,
but actually is going on inside of us, just as
this is going on inside inside the computer. And so

(13:25):
once that the body computer ceases to decode this reality
because it ceased to function, it's died, then immediately your
consciousness is released from that focus of attention that the
body gives you, and you're in another reality. Uh. And
so my question then was, you know, as I said earlier,

(13:49):
you know, you see all these people all over the world,
these billions of people who are having a terrible time,
often suffering in extraordinary ways, and definitely kind of backling
to survive another day. And like I say, I could
understand how someone could get pulled in and trap to

(14:10):
this reality. They want to addam an Eves story. If
you life symbolically, but why would you come back? Why
the hell would you come back? And so I started
really researching that for the three books, but particularly this one,
and I came across some extraordinary people with extraordinary stories

(14:34):
to tell about how this is a trap. It's a
perceptual trap, not just to entrap you in this level
of the simulation, a really dense, energetic level. This is
which I'll come to as we go on later, but
also to entrap you in another level of the matrix,

(14:59):
which is different to this one, but is perceived to
be the afterlight of the spirit world. And this Buddhist
concept of the wheel of Samsara, where you move between
this level and that other level to learn lessons to evolve.

(15:20):
That I think is is the track and I'd like
about that and how we can get the hell out
of it.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
That is fascinating. Now this opens up many doors that
we can explore. First, I want to tie back You
mentioned the shadow people, the unseen controllers to reincarnation, and
there's many that speculate that these powerful controllers of our
reality have mastered reincarnation in a sense that they can

(15:49):
come back into the same amount of power that they
left when they died, the same bloodlines, the same families,
and they have control over their reincarnation cycle because they
have agreements with the arconic forces controlling this matrix. What
do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Well, what's interesting? You just go on to say what
I was just indicate. A few minutes ago, I came
across people who could remember the incarnation process. Now what happens?

(16:30):
And Stevenson found this in his reincarnation research. Kids usually
remember these things. I mean most don't, of course, but
because you're not meant to. And we'll get to why
that is in a minute. But by the age of seven,
these memories start to fade. Some keep them into adulthood.

(16:53):
But there are many, many, fewer of those than their
children who have fast lack memories before in the early years.
But there are some that actually remember, and I think
they're genuine, not least because they tell the same story
of the incarnation process. And you know what's fascinating, is it?

(17:17):
What they describe is not some spiritual kind of out
there world. It's very technological and one of the things
that i've but it's a technological on another frequency level,
another frequency band. Because of course we can hardly see anything.
You know, people say, well, why can't we see these

(17:38):
hidden controllers because you can hardly see anything. And I
don't think that's an action. I don't think that's an
accent at all. I think that's by design. I mean,
if we had a much wider visual range that we
could see, then we'd see these police controllers. We go, oh,
you're doing it then, So we're in this ridiculously narrow

(17:59):
band of a visual frequency and other frequencies too. So
one of the things that is so common in the
people that remember their incarnation process is when they enter
this reality, it's it's just du tendously dense compared with

(18:24):
what people called the astral dimension. That this is basically this,
this other level of the simulation, this this spirit world
as it's perceived. The Infinity is beyond it. That's what
they're trying to stop us getting it back to because
they you know, if you if you came into this
world once and then it could get out of it.

(18:48):
I mean, they'd soon run out of consciousness to manipulate.
And there's a reason why they have to keep us here,
which again I'm sure we'll get into as we go along.
And so they describe coming into this reality and they're
going lower, lower, lower, as one of them said, lower, lower, lower,

(19:08):
in terms of frequency and density to the point where
it's almost hard to function. So that that's a big
one in terms of understanding why this world is even
on that level, and also too for people to be
kind to themselves, you know, you know, we constantly judge

(19:30):
other people, and we constantly self judgmental. But hey, lends
to jama We are in an incredibly extreme density, which
makes it it's like walking through treacle. So let's be
kind to ourselves. You know, if you if you can

(19:51):
awaken to some kind of perception beyond the beyond the
human world while in this state of extreme density that's
all around you, this this field you're walking through and
or appear to be walking through, then you know that's
that's it really is a fantastic achievement. And the other

(20:15):
thing is that there is this theme and it's not
just with people that can remember their incarnation process. It's
also with many, many, and many many of these millions
now near death experiences. It's that when you enter this reality,
you go through some kind of electromagnetic net or field

(20:41):
which wipes your memory. So when you come in I mean,
obviously it doesn't completely wipe everyone, so they would remember
previous lives as these and these kids do mostly for
the age of seven. But it wipes their memory and
so in some cases the people can remember their incarnation.

(21:01):
It don't work in the way that it should. But
so that this explains a lot. It explains why it's
called the mind wipe. I call it the mind wipe.
Any it explains why we don't remember what's gone on before,
and therefore we start with a blank sheet of paper
and what does that mean? We're like, who am I?

(21:23):
Where am I? What is this place? But the other
the other end fascinated me right by this in the
book as well. It's when you leave the body, when
the body ceases to function, and when you when you
listen and you you read all these different near death

(21:43):
experience accounts, invariably, when they leave the body, or actually
the body leaves them, they say.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
Ah, it was amazing. I never felt anything like it before.
I'd never experienced anything like it before. And you go, well,
do you believe in reincarnation? Oh yeah, well why.

Speaker 2 (22:07):
Don't you remember it? Then? Why you obviously experienced it
a lot of times before? And this mind wipe it
starts when you come in and it continues until you
get back under shall we say, astral control of this
same arcontic force that's to go back on the wheel

(22:29):
of sam sorrow to come back in. And you know,
I'll tell you what's fascinating when you passionately look at
the two levels of how similar they are. You know,
the astral level of the simulation is it's a very
different frequency heck of a lot dense, less dense frequency.

(22:53):
And therefore, of course, if you're comparing your experience in
this extreme of density and then you leave it what
we what we call matter or that is more than
about that, then your comparison with what happens outside the
body is it must be heaven because this is fantastic.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
And so.

Speaker 2 (23:17):
You are then pulled into this idea that you have
to keep coming back to learn lessons to evolve and
have this thing called calma, or you've got karma to playback,
and all this stuff goes on. And but but what's, like,
I say, what's fascinating is how similar these two levels
are in the way that they operate and that they're dynamic.

(23:40):
Because if you if you look at in the human world,
people are overwhelmingly they're looking to authority to tell them
what to what to think, how things are. All this
is a scientist know what he's talking about? Oh well doctor,
thank you doctor, and all this stuff. It's all these
experts and authorities that people look to because they're just

(24:05):
little me. I've got no power doing what I've got
a lot to other people, right, and those other people
just just say, okay, thank you very much. I've got
power over you. And it's like politics, you know, what's
happening every election is vast, vast numbers of people in
different countries are saying to one person or or one

(24:27):
small group of people, at least, here's my power. You know,
you do it for me for the next four or
five years or so, because you know I've got no power.
I mean, what can I do? And then when when
people leave the body and they go into this other realm,
exactly the same dynamic is in place because what people describe,

(24:50):
and I'm talking all of them, virtually all of them,
is that they are met by spirit guides or religious heroes.
You know, if you're of this religion, you'll see this
religious hero, if you're the this this religion, does see
another religious hero. And I explained the book how that's possible,

(25:10):
because they're not religious heroes. They're projections and and and
how you know they'll they'll they'll see elders, and elders
judge them. And one of the massive common themes of
near death experiences is that is the life review where
these elders, these wise old men, uh, they they project

(25:38):
your life and you, you watch your life go through
very very quickly, and then they discuss all lessons to
learn all this stuff and how those projections can happen,
those life projections can happen, and how that that information
can be held, stored and then delivered is also in

(25:59):
the in the book because we're we are in a
reality that is so much more advanced in terms of
technological possibility than ever we just even begin to understand
what we call AI and this cutting edge technology. It's

(26:19):
the Stone Age compared with actually what's possible.

Speaker 4 (26:23):
And so.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
You you then return to to experience something else to
pay back, get karma or whatever, and it goes on.
And because what happens Hold on a minute, You're coming
into this place of extreme density, Well, you're obviously going
to do things you'd rather in another state of awareness

(26:50):
not do. So you're not paying off your karma. I
go into the book of Karma, you're actually adding to it.
So there's more lessons to learn now. And it's just
an incredibly kind of endless cycle that that that that
goes on. And so what what I'm I'm also saying

(27:16):
in the book is just as we have this this
human body, this biological computer, which is our vehicle to
experience this density, because our consciousness is vibrating way beyond
this density. So if we're going to interact with this world,

(27:37):
we have to have an outer shell through which to
do it, which is in within the frequency band of
the of the world we want to experience with in
and interact with in. So when you leave the body
and you're going into this astral level, this spirit world,
you also need an outer shell that can interact with that.

(28:00):
And that's what I say anyway, that's what people call
the soul, and I say that there's something beyond that,
the true self is beyond that. I give it the
name Spirit is a state of awareness. That we are
pure awareness. That's what we are. Nobody, no form, we have,

(28:23):
just awareness, and we take on these energetic vehicles if
you like, to interact with certain frequencies that our consciousness
couldn't directly interact with. But actually what we are is
we are a state of awareness. And once you start

(28:45):
identifying that with that rather than the labels of a
human life, for instance, then your frequency starts to reflect
more and more that level that you're now self identify fine,
and that takes you out of the whole damn thing.
I say. Anyway, it takes you out of the whole,

(29:08):
all the different levels of the simulation and back into
the realm of infinity. So what the that which is
behind all this? The Gnostics called that force y Older
bay Off or demiurgent archons, that is constantly trying to

(29:29):
keep you in a state of perception that will hold
you within the frequency walls of the simulation, so you
don't get out because you're not even aware that that
there is something to get out of, because you think
this is how it is, especially in the astral where
you're seeing you're seeing the thing at another level, but

(29:53):
you're still within the simulation.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Do you think that there are powerful bloodlines and humans
on this planet that are rewarded by these arconic forces
like I was saying earlier, and able to reincarnate into
a level of power that they still have control over
the rest of humanity.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Yeah, that's a great point, and I would say that
spawn because what's happened over this thirty five years is
that all these different levels of the what I call
the conspiracy of human enslavement, they all fit. They're all
expressions of the same thing. So, for instance, I in

(30:37):
the early nineties I started putting together the network that
manipulates human society within the frequency band of human society.
I call it the Global Cult. The Global Cult is
a network of secret societies which is fiercely compartmentalized. Even

(30:59):
most of the people in the sea of societies don't
know the real big deal is that really in the
core stuff that is, it's the other you know, the
need to know technique of the CIA and such agencies.
And what the Global Cult is doing is holding advanced
knowledge a about where humanity is being taken and why,

(31:21):
but also advanced knowledge about the nature of reality. And
it's held at the inner core, but it's passed over
through the generations. So you know, you can get people
like older Sucksley that was talking about technology in nineteen
thirty two that's now only just coming online. It's because
they have a completely different level of awareness, a technological awareness,

(31:46):
and never mind anything else that they can put into
novels that appear to be sci fi, but actually they
know the stuff exists, or at least as possible.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
And what this.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Global Cult was done is set up the sources of
information communication for the for the target population. So, for instance,
the Rockefeller family, which is massively part of this cult,
being a core of it anyway, is behind or was

(32:20):
behind the creation of the education system in America. The biggest,
one of the biggest private funders of American education today
what we call education, is Bill Gates, who's a Rockefeller gopher.
The Rockefeller's created the World Health Organization and it's funded today.
The biggest private funder is Bill Gates, a Rockefeller gopher,

(32:42):
you see how it works. And Ted Ross, the Secretary
General of the of the World Health Organization, is an
appointee by by Gates in effect, which which means he's
an appointee by the Rockefellers, so he does whatever he's told.
That that's how all this stuff came about in COVID
and what have you. So you have the sources of communication,

(33:08):
so it's not just the education system of course, that
was created by this network. So that from the earliest
age right into the teenage years, you can download or
upload to your target young people the perception of reality
and self you wanted to believe they control through funding

(33:30):
what we call science mainstream science. So mainstream science is
completely myopic in terms of the reality that its claims
to be researching. You have cutting edge scientists, many of
which I quote in the book, who can see beyond that,
but they don't get the funding that they get marginalized.

(33:51):
They can't get into the scientific journals, even though they
have evidence to support what they're saying. And but it's
also the fact, of course that this network, this cult,
has owned the mainstream media. So wherever you look, your
sources of information are basically coming from the same source.

(34:14):
And they're designed to hold you in myopia, not just
of understanding reality and the forces really behind human society,
but crucially to control your self identity. They want you
in two states of identity. One the ideal one is

(34:35):
that you are just a body and you're just the
labels of a human life, and that's all you are.
That's what they want you to believe, ideally. But of
course you know, they can't keep everyone like that, and
so they've invented something called religion. And religion says you
have a soul, and that's okay from their point of view,

(34:58):
because as I said, my contention is the soul is
how we experience the It's an energetic field through which
we experience the astral, the so called spirit world, the afterlife,
the fake after and and so that you know, they
they're they're fine with that. So you've got this this

(35:20):
dynamic where very advanced information has passed on through this
cult through the generation, while the population is kept in
ignorance systematically of what they know. And so when you
have these these bloodlines and these these these families which

(35:42):
kind of you know, go through this intergenerational cult network,
what you what you what you have is people who
because what happened is that when I'd established in my
mind that this could existed, my next question was when

(36:06):
did it start? And you go back, you go back,
you go back, you get you get into ancient times,
you know, Babylon and ancient Egypt and all that stuff,
and the creation of Rome and all that business and
the Vatican. But then you you asked the question, well,
so people have been coming in playing a part in

(36:30):
advancing this agenda, and how has the advancement worked. It's
worked through the incessant centralization of power. So you had
a tribal situation once where people in the tribe decided
what this tribe is going to do, and often they
had a chief that decided for him. But then you
had this point where lots of tribes were brought together

(36:53):
under what were called nations, and now a few people
at the center of all those tribes and now dictating
to all those tribes collectively. And then you have organizations
like the European Union, Bricks and all these other training
groups which are amalgamations of nations. So now a few

(37:16):
people look at the European Union, goodness meet, a few
people at the center of the nation are now dictating.
Most of them are elected, the key ones are elected
to all those previous nations who were deciding to run
fate at one point, who were made up of tribes
who were deciding the run fate at one point. So
this if you're if you're going to if you are

(37:36):
a few and you're going to control them any you
have to centralize decision making the only way you can
do so. So this this centralization which has been the
result of people coming in, having a life, not a
very long life in the in the in some eras,

(37:59):
and then going back out born, die, born, and die,
and then others will come in born, die, born, die,
and and it's it's pushed it on and pushed it on.
And one question that comes to mind, or came to
mind for me anyway, is why would those people this
is long ago, now, why would those people come in

(38:20):
and play a part in advancing an agenda that they
were never going to see the end of.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
Right, But then you realize they are just the kid
coming in, because you know a lot a lot of
the key players in this conspiracy, in this cold they
are arcons.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
They are they are an arcontic energy. They are on
a contact mind. And one of the things I've learned
many in various ways over the years is that what
this arcontic mind doesn't have is an ability to experience
empathy or compare. It's like they are literally like computer programs.

(39:05):
And so you know so many people in the population
who do have the capacity for empathy and capassion. When
you say this is what they're doing, oh you'll know this,
You'll have experienced all of this. When you say what
they're doing, they say, they'd never do that. No one
would ever do that. No, No, you would never do that.

(39:25):
They would they would do it because they have computer
programs the equivalent of pressing enter. They don't have this
capacity to build experience in a way that they can
put themselves in the what the others are experiencing two
to them. This mentality, this sarcontic mentality, which is the

(39:48):
major players in this global cult within the human world.
The dynamic is basically like humans and farm animals. They
have no empathy at all. I mean, you look at
Bill Gates, who's classic example of what I'm talking about,
and Claus Schwars. They have no empathy. They don't make

(40:13):
things happen like COVID and the fake JAB and all
this stuff, and they'll put all this vaccinations into kids,
which sterilize them in Africa. I mean, you can't do
that if you have empathy. They don't. And once you
grasp that, you then start to understand the dynamic between

(40:36):
that which is manipulating human society and human society and
the population in general. So these It's another area that
I talk about in the book and which really made
many pennies drop, and that was in the kind of

(40:56):
early mid nineties. I started to realize that these key
players in this cold were taking part in satallic ritual
and they were literally sacrificing people, often children. This is
where you get in the ancient world sacrificing young versions

(41:20):
to the gods. And I started to realize that actually
what becase. First of all, you go, you know these
people you see on the news, they're sacrificing people. What, Well,
you've got no empathy, You've got to I mean, anyone
with empathy is not going to do at that, are they?
They can't. It's impossible. You can't do it because your
empathy stopship. They have no empathy. Therefore they do anything.

(41:42):
There's no limits, there's no fail safe mechanism. I mean
I called empathy the fail safe mechanism of human behavior.
And if you don't have it, well anything goes. So
I started or thinking, well, hold on, the ancients choose
to sacle people, These to do it openly all over

(42:03):
the world, And you go, so how does that connect?
And when you realize is the quote gods that they
were sacrificing to in the ancient world openly were the
astral gods? The astral are counting gods that these people
are still doing it too. So the next question is, Okay,

(42:28):
what do the gods get out of this? Then what's
the what's the reason for it? Because the gods obviously
get something out of it because it's an offering to
the gods. And then massive pennies dral in why this
simulation exists at all? Uh and and why the world

(42:53):
is it is? So I started to see it's a
long time ago now, but more and more evidence comes
with the ears that these entities are feeding of low
vibrational human energy. Mainstream science is long known now that

(43:19):
every time we feel emotional, every time we think, we're
generating a frequency. Now, because these frequencies are happening actually
in the astral dimension, we can't see them. We see
the body language of emotional states, but we don't see
the emotional frequencies coming off, although we can feel them.
All got bad vibes from him or whatever, And so

(43:43):
you realize that what they're doing is feeding off human energy,
but it's a particular frequency of human energy, which relates
to low vibrational emotion and thought all around the key
emotional key response of fear. It's fear, it's resentment, it's anxiety,

(44:08):
it's depression, it's violence, it's conflict of all kinds. These
are the energies that they're feeding off, which means that
within this simulation they have created and are manipulating. They
have no interest whatsoever in things like love and joy

(44:30):
and happiness and peace. They have no interest in that.
It's not a frequency that they want. They want the
low vibrational frequencies. Why because they're in a low vibrational state.
That's why they do what they do. And you can
only absorb what you can connect with. And so when
you see all these wars and world wars and conflicts

(44:53):
and all the things that make people fearful and worry
and anxious, it's all generating what has become known among
the people that have researched this as louche the collective
work with this low vibrational energy. And there was a
guy called Robert Munroe who popularized what's called a out

(45:17):
of body experience. For if people haven't come across this,
you have a near death experience. That's when the body
ceases to function and consciousness is therefore released from this
focus of attention, because that's all death is, it's a
transfer of your focus of attention. But an outer body

(45:39):
experience is the ability to project into this astral dimension
while you're still alive, while your body stopped working. And
he popularized that, and he did a hell of a
lot of it, to the point where he was approached
by the CIA. This is well documented now in something

(46:01):
called the Gateway Process. And the Gateway Process was a
study which brought together people who had this ability to
project their awareness into a mean conscious awareness, into this
astral dimension, and the study was what did they experience?

(46:24):
And funnily enough, as to one of the military people involved,
it was quoted as saying later, is that these experiences,
out of body experiences, experienced or saw so many reptilian

(46:45):
entities in the astral dimension, which is why where I
say they are that they gave them a collective name
of the alligators in the Gateway study. And what Robert
Munroe's head is that he learned in his astral projections
that these entities were feeding off human low vibrational energy,

(47:11):
as I would call it. And what I found fascinating
is that I'd concluded all that before I came across
the Monroe work, the Monroe information about all this. So
it was not a oh, he said that, so it
must be true. It was actually just another confirmation, a
major one of what I'd already realized. And that starts

(47:35):
to put in perspective why this human sacrifice spans the
to the gods, spans this whole period of human history.
It's because what the sacrifice rituals are doing is creating
such terror in the victim that they are generating very

(48:00):
powerful low vibration or energy, which is what terror is
and trauma is. That's why they're as much trauma as possible.
And these entities are feeding off that energy. Like I say,
this energy, you can't see it. You can see the
body language that comes from it, but you can't see
it because it's going into into this astral dimension, and

(48:24):
these entities are feeding of it, and the Satanists in
human form are drinking the blood of the sacrifice. Horrible
that this is how it works, because this terror, which
has an energetic expression, also has a chemical expression infuses

(48:48):
or infuses adrenaline into the blood, which these these sick
people drink to and it's like a drug to them.
And so so of course the ancience did it openly,
and then it became completely unacceptable as humanity reached some
kind of level of maturity, and now they do it secretly,

(49:12):
do it secretly. Ever since I'm we're talking about I mean,
you know, in previous books I've talked about how the
British royal family are massively evolted.

Speaker 1 (49:21):
Yeah, for the last few minutes we have I'd like
to touch on something that you mentioned earlier, possibility of
a way out. When I look back at the events
that have unfolded since twenty twenty, it seems to me
that there have been a lot of awakened soul since then,

(49:41):
And I wonder if there would be this many awakened
people if the events didn't unfold as the way they have.
And I also wonder if there is a greater force
outside of this arconic force that may be assisting humanity
in any way. I'd love to get your thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
Oh yeah, one hundred percent. But you see people say,
they said to me over the years, when's the cavalry coming.
But the cavalry is the cavalry because it's in a
high frequency state, and if it comes into a low
frequency state, it will probably be working in a call

(50:20):
center or driving a bus or whatever the different people
jumbs are because it will be caught in the low
vibrational illusion. So we have to play our part in
breaking out of the perception of the what I call

(50:44):
the dream in my previous book, an induced Dream, and
see it for what it is, because you know, if
you have a dream and the dream seems real, it
has obviously a massive emotional and mental impact upon you.

(51:05):
You can wake up in the middle of the night
kind of screaming or in a hot sweat because of
the dream you thought was real. But then you have
what are called lucid dreams, and I have a lot
of them. When you know you're in a dream, You're
aware that you're in a dream, and instead of being
in the dream, you're observing the dream, and they do

(51:29):
not impact upon you emotionally and mentally because you are
the observer. And that when you are caught in this
belief that all this is real, you have a myopia
of perception that holds you in the five sense realm

(51:53):
pretty much alone. And then you are in the world.
You're in a matrix, and you are of the matrix,
and that's when you self identify with being a human
and all the labels of a human life. What I'm

(52:14):
saying is we're not human, we're consciousness, ultimately infinite awareness,
having a brief human experience through a vehicle within this
tiny band of frequencies and when you start to redefine
your self identity from I am a human, I am

(52:37):
my name, my life, story, etc. My religion, my culture,
it doesn't mean you can't experience those. It doesn't mean
you kind of enjoy those. It means you're aware of
what they are. So you're not caught in the dream.
You're observing the dream in some parts of the dream
might be very nice. I'm enjoying this, but you're not

(53:00):
caught in it. And the more that you expand your
self identity to more and more that you are consciousness,
you are a state of awareness. You you will start
first of all to reconnect with what's called your soul,

(53:20):
this astral level of you. You'll start to connect with that.
Now that that will start to impact on you because
you'll start to have a much wider sense of reality.
But it's still within the matrix. When you get into
those levels of self identity, not conceptually, but you you

(53:44):
are them, you live them of I am spirit, I
am just a state of awareness. I'm not a soul,
I'm not a body. I'm just a state of awareness.
Then you're the frequency you're generating that, the frequency you're
vibrating on takes you out of the matrix. It takes you,

(54:05):
takes you beyond the matrix because you know, I don't
know if you come across this, this esoteric concept, and
you find it in different forms in many ancient cultures
of the ring past, not where it's perceived to be
a point, a level where you can't go beyond unless

(54:27):
you are in a certain state of enlightenment. And for
enlightenment I would say read aware of your true self,
of your true eye, of your infinite eye. And it's
interesting that the Buddhists have this concept of the wheel samsara,
and they say that you have to keep learning lessons

(54:48):
to reach a state of enlightenment i e. Frequency perception,
that you can leave the cycle. And what they're describing
I say erroneously in terms of you've got to learn
lessons to get out of here. Now you've got to
become aware to get out of here. And often the
lessons take you deeper into it. You reach a state

(55:13):
of self awareness whereby the matrix can't hold you anymore
because you are a completely different frequency. It's like you know,
two radio stations you're just one can't hold you in
here anymore. But if you are kept and this is
the whole basis of the conspiracy, both in the astral
and in the human world, it's to hold you in

(55:35):
a state of perception, a state of self identity, which
will keep you within the frequency walls of the matrix.
Because although the frequency walls of the human world are
incredibly dense and incredibly low in the astral world, still
in the matrix they're much much higher. And as you
go up through the astral they get higher and higher.

(55:57):
So you know, it's it's it's this real self awareness
of what you are beyond all these.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Could it be that collective awareness enough of it may
essentially break the matrix.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Again. Because I'll tell you what I've learned over this
thirty five years is that we absolutely must not fall
for the fact that this force these entities in the end,
that they're a very schismatic, inverted state of consciousness. Is

(56:41):
why the world's inverted. It reflects them. They are not
all powerful. They're not they're not They're idiots. You know,
you've got to be an idiot to want to do
what they're doing. And it's not that we depend on them,
they depend on us. They have to they have to

(57:01):
manipulate us into low vibrational states. Otherwise lunch is canceled. Right,
their their energetic source is canceled because they have to
feed off our energy, uh for reasons I go into
in the books in some detail. But so therefore they

(57:24):
have to keep us in a lower level of the
have the dumbers down into a lower level of awareness
about everything than they're in. It's it's literally, it's literally
a case of in the Kingdom of the Blind, the
one eyed man is king. Very appropriate given one of

(57:45):
the great symbols of this cult is a one eye,
single eye you see on the the dollar bill and
the reverse of the Great Seal of the United States.
That's that, that all seeing eye. That that's the that's
the level they are. But they have to not keep
us one eye. They have to keep us blind symbolically

(58:08):
in terms of knowledge. But when we become the two eyed,
third eyed infinite being that we are, or at least
we start to move into that, suddenly the dynamic changes
and we see where the real power is. You see,
if you look at things like tyranny, tyranny is not

(58:31):
brought in by tyrants. There's never enough of them Tyranny
is brought in by the acquiescence of the population to
tyranny and tyrants. That's how it's done. It's acquiescence that
creates tyranny, not the tyrants themselves because haven't got the
power to do it. It's not enough of them. And
that dynamic you can see throughout the throughout the simulation.

(58:54):
And that's why they have to keep us divided. That's
why they have to divide and rule. That's why they
have to keep or create all these different group things
that they can play off against each other, different religions,
different political persuasions and parties. They have to do that.
And you know, I've I've had a lot of a

(59:16):
lot of abuse. I don't care, but I've had a
lot of abuse in the last two year two years
for calling out the alternative media, which I say has
been hijacked especially and this is what I suggest has happened.
And I do write about this in detail in parts
of the book and how it all works and why.

(59:40):
But when COVID happened, and you rightly have acknowledged that
here there wasn't awaken Now. I saw a lovely quote
recently which talked about how you don't awaken. You have
a series of awakens things. And so you awakened, say,

(01:00:03):
first to the fact that the people that are basically
it's like my awakening if I think about let's sit near,
you will waken to the fact that there are forces
at work that are running society, directing society that are
not actually the ones you think are doing it. They're
behind the ones you think are doing okay, and then

(01:00:24):
you have another awakening, another awakening, another wakening, and then
eventually you go into all this nature of reality, nature
of self identity and all that stuff. So once that
process began, and it began with so many people with COVID,
because I said at the time when COVID started in
around January February of twenty twenty, these people have just

(01:00:51):
entered the room because people like me before that were
uncover and in the early day you were uncovering something
that was operating in perceptual terms of the population below
the radar. And so it was all like, oh no,

(01:01:13):
it's not happy, it's conspiracy theory and other stuff. And
then with COVID entered the room, entered the radar, My god,
what's happening? And that trigger had to happen, because, as
I said a long long time ago, there's going to
come a point, and Covid was it, where if you're

(01:01:37):
going to transform society in a way you want it transformed,
you've got to at some point break the surface where
you are transforming society in a way that people are
seeing it it's not under the radar anymore. Because if
you don't reach that point, you're not going to transform society.
You're always going to be, you know, under the radar,

(01:01:59):
and society it's not going to change in the way
that you want it to. So there has to come
a point where people look around and say, what's happening.
What's happening? Covid was it, And so the genie was
leaving the bottle, and so many people, especially with hindsight,
with the job and its effect and everything, I could

(01:02:22):
see that actually the world's not like I thought it was.
That putting the genie back in the bottle was completely
was pretty much a hopeless case. It wasn't going to
happen for lots of people. So what you do is
you make sure the genie doesn't get out anymore. And
so these all these different people have come in and
if you look at it, overwhelmingly from the mainstream before

(01:02:46):
and nearly all of them completely bought the covid oaks.
They've come in to the alternative media, and what they've
done is create a barrier around basically politics and religion
and finance to an extent. And they keep telling you this,
this is the conspiracy. Never mind all that. Listen to

(01:03:12):
that guy. He's completely bonkers.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
He is.

Speaker 2 (01:03:14):
We aren't going to talk to him. Just it's Trump,
ull Harris. That's that's the level of the conspiracy. And
of course Trump's the good guy and Harris is the
bad I think, I think that they're both. They're both
mirrors of each other personally, but they're just a different
a different direction to manipulating people. But the point is

(01:03:35):
that this what I call hijack of the alternative media,
and and Musk is big time. Part of this is
uh has held the line, if you like, and that
line must be broken because I have enormous respect. I mean,
you know, people like you. You're a good example of it.
But I have enormous respect for this, this great swathe

(01:03:58):
of people outside of the barrier in the alternative media
who are open to these great visions of what's going on,
but they are not the ones that get the massive
algorithmic support, not least through Twitter X. They don't get
the financial support that that that they get. There are

(01:04:21):
certain people who are who have come in and they
are dominated there the narrative and the narrative is a
little bit wider than the mainstream narrative, but it's still
within the barricade. And for me, we need the free

(01:04:43):
flow of information. I'll give you an example. I know
what points I would make is there are some people
that have come into the alternative media who are knowingly manipulated,
but they are the very few. If you want to

(01:05:06):
hold the line, then what you do is you find
the people who have limited knowledge of the big picture,
who are focused on what you want to be focused upon,
like politics, et cetera, religion, and you promote the hell
out of them. You give them massive audiences, you give

(01:05:28):
them massive algorithmics support. I mean, I'm shadowed band like
crazy on Twitter axis. It's laughing the town and you
you let them do what they think. They think it's right. Oh,
this is the conspiracy. They don't realize it's a fraction
of it. It's just an expression of it, it's not it.

(01:05:49):
And so if you look at Soccer Coulson, Soccer Colson,
I used to watch your show every morning when I
got up about five or six o'clock in the morning,
I'd watched a show on you to with Fox News.
Not because he got the big picture, he didn't, but
he was further ahead of the rest of the mainstream

(01:06:14):
television media, et cetera in America, and so he was
he was doing interviews and calling things out that were
not happening elsewhere. Right. So one of the things that
these people are absolutely brilliant. Now, I mean they may
be idiots, but they're very clever in the in this

(01:06:38):
area particularly, they know how to manipulate human perception and
they can very very well predict that if you give
people trigger a they will react like this. So this

(01:06:59):
is why I people, we've got to get out of
black and white thinking, and we've got to see the
nuances and we've got to see the subtleties of perceptual manipulation,
because that's the level it really operates at. Yeah, they
want you to see things in black and white because
the truth is always in the same shades are great

(01:07:19):
and so when Tucker Carlson was fired by Murdos operation
Fox News. People said, black and white, he's been fired
because he's gone too far. Well, he didn't actually go
very far, but he went further than anyone else's way.
I was interested. But hold on a minute, do you

(01:07:44):
not think that those who were behind his firing knew
what the outcome was going to be. Soon as he
was fired by Fox, he was going to become an
alternative media hero. He was going to get vast number audiences,
which is exactly what happened. I mean, Musk Block had

(01:08:07):
got Twitter x by by then, so we had an immediate,
massively great audience then that he had on Fox too
to broadcast too. And you know, so the focus of attention.
I mean, you know, of course, Tucker Carson has got
closer and closer to the Trump people, and all these

(01:08:32):
people that have come in are basically in the Trump dynamic,
including Elon Musk. And you know, again, if people don't
ask or see the subtleties or ask the key questions,
like I've been tracking Elon Musk for bloody hell so

(01:08:55):
long before he bought Twitter X. And when he bought
Twitter X or quote, he did a lot of people
did and does he really control it now? I don't
think he does it all, but anyways, a great frontman
for it. He has been running through his companies like
Neuralink and SpaceX and Tesla with the climate change stuff,

(01:09:20):
a wish list of this cult how it wants to
transport society. He's called for a carbon tax is, he's
said that there needs to be a guaranteed basic income,
all the things off the wish list, basically calling for
And before he bought twitter x, there were members of

(01:09:40):
the alternative media. There still are outside the barricade, but
there were people that were calling him out and say,
hold on, this is you're taking to transhumanism what you're doing.
But once he bought twitter x, finish no more, so
he could do no wrong. And so he's gone on
doing the same things, like putting all these low orbit

(01:10:03):
satellites up but firing electromagnetic fields at the Earth five
and sixty seven unicon without this mainstream of the alternative
media calling him out because he's suddenly a hero. And
it was absolutely no surprise. I tell you to me
that there came a point where suddenly, just a few

(01:10:24):
weeks ago now he went full in on the Trump,
the Trump dynamic, the Trump arena, which he's gone big
time on now. He's a friend of Peter Teal. Peter
Teel is a guy who started a company called Palanteer

(01:10:46):
which provides Savans technology to the Pentagon and the intelligence community,
not just in britainy in America either. And Peter tel
was the first outside investor in Facebook, behind PayPal and
the PayPal mafia, which included a musk. And Peter Tiel

(01:11:07):
is a business associate and political funder of JD. Vans
who is now the running mate of Trump. And when
they were talking a few weeks ago now about the
possibilities of who Trump would select. As soon as I
saw the name JD. Vans, I thought it was going
to be in. And you have this network, this Silicon

(01:11:34):
Valley surveillance AI network that is all moving in on
this Trump arena because you have two basic mentalities again
we come back to perceptual manipulation. You have two basic mentalities.
You have the woke mentality, which you find on what

(01:11:57):
used to be called the left. It's the fate left
now and and and they'll basically go along with the
whole agenda. I mean, you know, I go into in
the book and the other books how this whole woke Agender,
how it came about, and how it's serving the cult
where he wants to take society. But you have another group,

(01:12:19):
which are basically in America Trump supporters, who don't want that.
They don't want that, they're very much against it. And
a lot of these people that came into the alternative
media and people like Peter Teel they fund Rumble and
what have you and and and such like. And he was,
by the way, Peter Teal a Palenteer surveyors technology. He's

(01:12:45):
on the steering committee of the Builderberg Group. Uh and
and his co founder of Pallenteer is also the steering
committee of the Builderberg Group. This is a quote globalist
organization that's pushing the agenda, the same kind of agenda
that the World Economic Forum is pushing and the cult

(01:13:06):
in general of which they're apart, is pushing. So one
of these and why are these people wanting to get
involved in with with all this? There's there's there's Trump
arena in view. And of course J. G. Vance is
a big venture capitalist in the area of AI and technology.

(01:13:28):
Uh And, so you have to two things. You have
the hard cell of AI control, including the connection to
the human brain of AI, which is happening now by
the way, people I realize it is and and and
and that comes through Swab and Gates and all these people.

(01:13:51):
These these very obvious cooperatives to anyone's paying attention. But
you have a whole arena of people, tens of millions
in America alonement who don't want so you have to
give them the soft sell. You have to sell the
same agenda, but you have to do it in a

(01:14:13):
different way. And their frontman to do that is Elamask
And now he's become a hero of that arena while
pushing on with the AI agenda. And all these people
from Silicon Valley, these Silica Valley billionaires evolved in their
or AI think they're all moving in to support Trump,

(01:14:37):
and including a guy called Mark Andrisson who blocked me
on Twitter. And I never mentioned a bloke so but
but and he blocked me on Twitter right at the
time that Jade Evans was was was being made his
running mate, and I was calling it out and what
his connections do to Peter Teel and and he blocked

(01:15:02):
me on that I'm blocked from by loads of people
on Twitter. On the face of it, completely different people
coming from completely different directions, Like the Tape Brothers both
blocked me. Mark Anderson's blocked me. Wilders, who is head
of the biggest party in the Dutch government, blocked me

(01:15:24):
because I was calling him out on the fact that
he was a man of the people who you know,
had a great election victory and i'd al whether you know,
but Builders has overseen the imposition of a former head
of Dutch Intelligence as Prime Minister of the Netherlands who's

(01:15:46):
not elected. He's not elected, he's been appointed by this
cabal around Builders as as Prime Minister of the Netherlands.
And so all these people you call are now because
they're ruds that they kind of they kind of block you.
And what what that blocking group kind of tell you

(01:16:09):
is that there is a connection between the Silicon Valleys
AI people and the people that are supposed to be
representing the interest of people pushing back on the elite.

Speaker 1 (01:16:21):
Yes, we have reached an incredible time and like you said,
it is a mad house. I do have hope with
the amount of souls that are awakening right now. I
think that if we keep going, like we were discussing earlier,
there is a chance to break out of these systems because,
like you said, the forces controlling it are not all powerful.

(01:16:45):
I think it's a very important time for this information.
I want to thank you so much for keeping presenting
this information and still being the most relevant voices in
this space. It's very important right now, So David will
have to do this again. Of course, before you go,
is there any closing thoughts that you'd like to leave

(01:17:06):
the audience with?

Speaker 2 (01:17:09):
Only that if you start to move beyond the fake
I wrote a book years ago called Phantom Self, and
that's what I think most people are living. They're living
a fantom self. They're self identifying the eye with the body,
and it's just an experience. It's a brief experience. You
are consciousness, You are either consciousness having the experience, but

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beyond that, you are a state of expanded awareness, ultimately
infinite awareness. That is the true eye. And what this
cult wants you to do, and that which is behind it,
is to forget that. That's the whole thing. You know.
Some people have called this human world the veil of forgetfulness. Well,

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we've discussed why that is and how that's done. But
we can remember, we can, we can, and we can
become aware of what's going on in a much more
expanded way while we're still in a human body. We can,

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but we have to open our minds to it, because
one of the greatest forms of mind control is to
control people's sense of the postible, to squeeze their sense
of the possible so that they dismiss things that are
happening and dismiss things that they are because they can't

(01:18:41):
perceive that it's possible that they are happening or they
are really who you're saying they are. And so we
need people to open their minds and let consciousness in
because once you start that process, especially if you stop
in core in the hijacks alternative media focus on politics

(01:19:05):
and right wing politics essentially, then as long as you
don't fall for that, then it's a hell of a
ride where one awakening leads to another, leads to another,
and then you just get more and more aware that
this is not what you led to believe.

Speaker 1 (01:19:24):
It is nothing like David, Thank you so much, this
was essential information. Definitely love to talk with you again
in the future and until next time, everyone have an
excellent evening. I will have all David's links right in
the description and we will talk again tomorrow. Today, I
want to welcome back to the show Brandon Thomas. He

(01:19:45):
is producer and host of Expanding Reality. He is a seeker, philosopher, musician, rancher,
and avid idea hunter as well as lover of all
things fascinating. Brandon, Welcome back. How you doing brother?

Speaker 4 (01:20:01):
Every day above Ground's a great day. It's good to
be here, man, It's good to see it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:05):
Yes, always a wonderful conversation, and I know today is
definitely going to join the ranks. We've got a lot
to get into, lots of happenings happening, lots of current events.
And you've recently published a new book, Mindful Expansion, and
this is going to be part of a series. Do
I have that right? You do?

Speaker 4 (01:20:24):
You have that correct? And it's very exciting. It ended
up turning into a whole series. I drew this stuff out.
There's a whole process on how I did this, and
I've got the couple of drawing samples here. But yeah,
it's going to be a full four book to release
at first. The fifth will come out a little later.
And it's something different but part of it. So yeah,
it's all this ubiquitous theme and have different cover artists

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featured for the covers. The first one, Mindful Expansion, is
more of a morning style journal and we can absolutely
get into it. But to feature Janine Burgess real quick.
I've had her on the show. She's exceptional. She makes
this whole Mandela series. So she does the geometry in
the back there as well as these anatomically correct insects
that she has.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Beautiful.

Speaker 4 (01:21:03):
This science background she has in her lineage just kind
of gave her this inspiration mixed with the art and
so she has Oracle Deck coming out all that stuff.
So can't talk about her enough. So each cover will
feature an artist. All of them have been contacted their
contributors in the form of quotes and other artists that
are going to be contributing to things. And so it's
a whole inclusive series that is mindfully expansive at a

(01:21:24):
personal level, and that's how it was designed. But also
it includes the community and allows you to go deeper
into some of these folks like what we do on
the show, which is share some people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:32):
Yeah, yeah, it's awesome. In the book, You're providing tools
for each and every one of us to develop and
excel in all aspects of our incarnation here and like
you said in the synopsis of the book, it's designed
to launch you into the greatest and grandest version of
you that your physical vessel can handle, which is awesome.

(01:21:53):
I love that. Now we're going to get into your
book and some of the incredible revelations and events unfolding
in the ursery realm right now. Crazy man, it is
crazy times. It's fun time. I'm having a blast. But
before we get into any of it, for those that
may not be familiar, remind the audience about yourself and

(01:22:13):
your podcast.

Speaker 4 (01:22:14):
Yeah. Sure, yes, I'm Brandon Thomas. I hostage show called
Expanding Reality, which we also have a book for. It's
a companion book that you can check out, also located
on Amazon. We you know, have shifted into publishing and
books and all that stuff, but still at our core
we have Expanding Reality, which has been the vehicle that's
launched all of these amazing projects that we've gotten to
again form a community to include in, which has been spectacular,

(01:22:38):
so so multifaceted. I do a lot of stuff. I
you know, wife and I live out on a ranch
on twelve acres out here in North Texas, and we
also do the podcast. We do publishing. We have a
publishing house called Redigonal Publishing, So if you guys are interested,
reach out at Redigonal Publishing at gmail dot com. And
other than that, we are just breaking apart the systems here.

(01:23:00):
We're creating our own. We are showing and empowering people
that there's a way out if you want to put
it that way, but that maybe that you know, the
way out was always right within you all along. You know.
It's those movies like I'm an eighties kid. I grew
up in the eighties, and so all those movies that
were sitting there telling us, you know, oh, the key
was in you all along, and we're like, yeah, right,
well it turns out maybe, you know. So we're we're

(01:23:22):
looking into that kind of stuff. And it's just been
a wild ride, man. And then, like you said, the
craziness going on the videos online right now, the weather
stuff going on, whatever that is, and just the directed
energy weapon shit, the alien shit, Mexico touting these bodies whatever,
those paper mache art projects that touted in front of people,

(01:23:43):
and it's just a wild ass time and we're creating
journals and doing shit through it all, you know, and
creating documentaries and still talking to people about cool stuff.
So it's fun.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:23:52):
It's like we're the the violinist, you know, playing on
the Titanic because it's all sinking, you know, it's up
burning this shit around us. But we're like, I made
this book if you want to kind of end the
time with yourself, you know, you know, had this amazing documentary.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
It does definitely seem that way sometimes that we are
just like entertaining a sinking ship. But man, it is
a good time. It is a good time. Now, speaking
of good times, tell the audience a little bit about
the book, give us a synopsis, and first, how what
brought you to write the book?

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
Man?

Speaker 4 (01:24:26):
So yes, and so first and foremost, thank you so
much for this and this is so fresh. You have
like the inside scoop because I have done zero, first
of all, zero promotional promotion for this the first release.
I didn't even get my author copies until yesterday on
my birthday, which two months ago, I two and a
half months ago, and I decided to publish this what
this is and I'll get into that my deadline or

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my goal for myself. My personal goal is to be
holding it in my hands by my birthday, which is
September eighteenth, and so I it literally got delivered on
that day. So the cool thing about this is it's
my practice. It is my journal practice, and I'll kind
of hold it up to the audience. Here. There is
a hardback and a paperback version of this. So if
you prefer that, we've got you covered what you can

(01:25:07):
see in this, if you've got the video on, there
is going to be just a lot of weird circles
and sections and lines, and you're like, what the hell
is going on with this thing. Basically, what this is
is it's a practice that I drew every single morning.
I would open my line journal that I bought. I
would draw these sections out. I had them labeled, and
I would say, okay, well, I want, you know, to

(01:25:28):
track the moon. And this is all the things that
I wanted to do to learn more about myself, my cycles,
about going within, about going deep within who I was
and discovering more about who I am. There's a quote
at the very beginning of the book, and it's from
Abraham Hicks, and it reads when people ask you, what
have you done? The only thing that you will be
able to say to them that is of any use

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to them is I figured out my relationship with me
so mindful expansion. The journal abbreviates down to ME M E. Now,
this is going to be part of a larger series
which we'll be talking about later, but its theme is
going to be similar. There's going to be a creative
expansion CE and an introspective expansion IE theme different. Again,

(01:26:10):
covers are different, different outlines and goals on those. But
whenever we talk about this, the biggest deal on this
is getting to know you what I've found in my journey,
which has been insane and crazy, and even in the
production of this journal, the resistance in this has been
so overwhelmingly transformative in my life personally. Just to put

(01:26:31):
this out. You know this with your documentary, we don't
even have to talk about how crazy when you get
a project and it's so bit and you know it right.
So through this process, this was a journaling thing that
I just did, and I did it since last year.
I just started including these things. I said, you know,
I want these elements included. I wanted to track the moon.
I wanted to be committed to a reading practice. I

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wanted to be more mindful about just how I started
my day. And the book also opens with a quote
and here from the Saint Igninus. Uh you get to
it here, okay. So sending Ninus Leola quoted is quoted
in regards to the importance of the early stages of
cognition and programming as it applies to the developing mind

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of a young human. He is quoted as saying, here's
the quote. Give me a child till he is seven
years old, and I will show you the man. Now,
what I did with this, and what I was personally
doing was setting the tone. I listened to that quote
and I said, well, shit, if we look at our
lives as if the morning part of our let's look
at a day like a light. Okay, and let's say

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the first bit of it is like the zero to
seven you're in doctrination period. And if you're waking up
and you're swiping on your phone, you're you're immediately going
into chaos. Then that's how you set the tone for
your entire day, which in this example is your life
in this model. So what I chose to do is
to set the tone differently, and I have seven different
things that I've just declared was this is how I'm
going to do it for me personally, and it's woven

(01:27:59):
into the fabric of the journaling practice that then I
designed for myself just to get to know me better. Right,
So to set the tone. The seven things are no
phone for the first hour, very important water before caffeine
of any kind. Drink your water first, positive self talk,
and mirror work. If that's something that you're into, it
definitely sets your mental tone for the day on a

(01:28:19):
positive note. Intentionally, a reading practice of any sort just
five pages minimum. Was my commitment to myself. A journaling practice,
which we've provided you a template for here if you'd like.
Also a walk in nature as well as a physical
commitment now and don't have to go nuts and go
to the gym and stuff like that. My physical commitment,
for instance, was my age in pushups, my age and lunges,

(01:28:41):
and my age and sit ups every day. So if
I did those three things, I was like, dude, I'm
pump Plus my walk in nature, I'm doing it barefoot
of grounded. We're having a good time. So what I
then did was in my journaling practice, there are these
things called nodes. Now if you look here, and I
know the audio only audience, you guys are just going
to have to check this out. There are these little
circles and dots here, things like that. Now what I

(01:29:01):
did was is I said, Okay, well, I'm going to
make that mean to me. I did my push ups,
I did my sit ups, and I did my lunches
for the day, and then how many days consecutives so
woven into this journal and we have an example filled
out here. You can see those three same dots there
that now have. They're all filled in with a color,

(01:29:21):
and you choose whatever color you know, it's all yours.
And then the number. Now you want that number to
grow every damn day. And then remember the set the
tone thing that I said. There's seven dots here and
then a counter so you can count how often you
are doing all of those things. No phone before, no
phone for the first hour, copy before caffeine, all of
those things. So there's sample videos that I just put

(01:29:44):
up on Instagram and TikTok that walk through this. It's
just a very brief explanation of the rundown of them.
But I'm always here to answer questions on any of
this kind of stuff. Let me ask you, not how.

Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
Long have you been journaling and how how much as
it improved your daily life and aspects of your life
in general.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
So my journaling started with this practice. Actually, I have
not been journaling long. I was not somebody who did
this for a very long time. But as I got
further into things, I started going, man, I just kind
of want to write down, like when I was on
Chris's show last and so I started keeping notes about
cool things that happened, because dope shit happens for guys
like us all the time, Chris, and so dope things
happen for everybody all the time. And then I started

(01:30:28):
adding to it. I was like, oh, well, as long
as I'm tracking my day, you're kind of just you know,
a short little few paragraphs about my day. Day before that,
I was reflecting on the next morning, a brief little
conversation with self, and this was something I wanted to
open myself up too. And I didn't start doing anything
like this until probably this time last year. So one
year ago now is when I started a committed ish

(01:30:50):
journal practice. But in December is when I started this.
That committed ish turned into a few elements that I added.
I had art around it to separate it from my
own mind, and then it got cool, and then it
looked even cooler, and then I added more elements, and
so from there from December on is when I've been
doing this, but then since July, late July when I

(01:31:11):
decided to publish it, and so that's when I sat
down and really drew it out for published, which included
a bunch of other things as well. But the reason
I asked this journal is.

Speaker 1 (01:31:21):
Because I started journaling recently, just about different random things,
and I've already noticed the first thing. The biggest thing
is I can remember more. I can just retain more naturally.
Even if I don't go and refer to my journal,
It's like it's already there if I've written it out
after it happens. So that's one of the main things.
But it also helps me to gather my thoughts for

(01:31:42):
the day. So I just wanted to get your insights
into that because for me, I just recently started doing
it too, and it's it's super helpful.

Speaker 4 (01:31:50):
Dude, totally, I mean absolutely, And the thing with this
one was it was a beyond a question. It was
a conversation with self. Yes, but I also had these
four questions I want to to ask again like you,
to figure out where I was, what's my metric? Where
am I now? To take inventory on where I'm at mentally,
And so it's just four questions you ask yourself every day.
It's just who do I choose to be today, how

(01:32:11):
do I choose to feel today, what do I choose
to give today? And what do I choose to receive today?
And just answer those questions. The next one was a mantra,
just a short little quick go get them tiger, you know,
kind of a thing. And then the next thing was gratitude. Man,
these three elements were huge to me. I wanted to
make sure that I've focused on those things and then
with conversation with self right, and so then I started

(01:32:32):
doing it like this. And then I've also got a
now and noteworthy like if mercury is in retrograde, it's
fucking with me or something, I'll put it here. If
my goals down here. So I've got goals. Like you, you
work on projects, You're a one body to guide time
with an elephant I am with your documentary, it's and everything.
So you do micro goals and you track them with
these little nodes, like it has these really cool little
circle features that you fill that in and then you

(01:32:53):
write the day or you know, however you want to
do it, which is really cool too. Yeah, but the
journaling practice has opened me up so much more to
who I am, to what I'm doing, and also by
doing things like tracking the moon and finding out like when,
like how that affects me. Honestly, I'm a new moon dude.
When the new moon is around, I'm like shit, man.
So I will purposefully schedule light around four or five

(01:33:15):
days around the new moon or whatever, and it seems
to serve me. Well, is what I've noticed now, Rather
there's anything to that, it's just a personal cycle I've noticed,
and it's been something I've noticed for years. My wife
even would say it, oh, at your time of the month,
and I'm like, yeah, it's new moon, and I go,
oh shit, new moon, and or all do something weird
and I'll be like, what the fuck is going on
with my mind? And she'll go that's new moon today
and I'll go, oh, thank you, and she knows my cycle,

(01:33:37):
so it was something I felt important enough to track.
And it's one of these things to where actually the
tracker goes that whenever you look at it, you get
to fill in the moon cycle as it is now
the moon phase. You say, it's a waxing crescent. How
many days until the next phase, and you fill in
the next phase, and then you write the next phase,
so you're just kind of in tune with where you're at,
where you're going, and what ratio that is. Also you

(01:33:58):
can write the intensity of it. If you've got these,
you get these little nodes over here, so I'll fill
in like dude, this was a booger bear, you know,
and like crank it up. So later on as I'm
writing to myself, like maybe something fucked up and maybe
my goals are thrown off, but that also affected my
workout schedule. And then it's also raining, so there's like
a weather tracker in here as well, so you can
track the weather. So you say, like it's snowy. You

(01:34:19):
have your high end load tempts for the day. You
can assign these to be whatever you want to have, sunny, snowy.
Ominous chemtrails are in there, by the way, and then
I've got an example sheet I'll show you. And then also,
you know, any other way. But you can look back
at this and you could say, Okay, there's a lot
of information here and it looks overwhelming or whatever, but
this is so customizable to you. But you can just
follow the formula if you want. Now. Whenever you look

(01:34:40):
at this later, you can say, okay, on my energy
tracker here I was cranked. My mood was low as fuck,
but my energy was cranked. It was New Moon, a
waxing credit. We were four days away from this first quarter,
and I know that's real close to New Moon, and
so you know, my gratitude was off whatever, I was
having a weird day, my goals were off. You can
kind of track these things as you go, so I

(01:35:00):
found it to be an interesting introspective point for me,
especially when you start adding the components, like an uptake counter,
like something consecutive that you're watching grow. You just sitting
down and doing forty push ups every day. If you
let that number slip, you feel like a d dude
because it's forty fucking push ups. You can do ten here,
ten there, in ten there, right, you got twenty four
hours to do forty push ups and you couldn't fill

(01:35:22):
that little bubble in so it looks at you, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
Yeah, that's also great because you also you always hear
mercury retrograde is causing me to do this. It's because
of that. And like you were saying, oh, the moon
moon cycles caused me to be in certain moods. Well,
with this tool, well, I think for me too. I
think for a lot of people it does. But with
this tool, you can actually apply it to paper, pin

(01:35:46):
and paper and compare it to your actual mood at
the time, and go back and look back and study
it just to verify that indeed your mood was different
during different cycles of the moon or different weather, right.

Speaker 4 (01:35:59):
Yeah, yeah, anything you've got going, like maybe you got
a stressful goal, a deadline, and that's affecting things. You know,
maybe your mantras are off. I know, looking back in
my journal having done this practice, I'll see my mantras
and know where I'm at mentally because they are opposites
of where I'm at, which means they're about lack or scarcity,
which means I'm in a laquer of scarcity mindset, like
I can see them directly, and so I know this

(01:36:20):
reflective stage as I look back over this, because I've
got like dozens of different versions of this that I've drawn. Again,
I've got two journals full of this that I use
from for two of the half years of like two
like half half per year, right, so two to complete
a year. Now, that's another thing with this, Since this
thing is a two page spread. Three of these complete

(01:36:42):
one year. But on the outside we've included these spine
nodes here where it's got two little circles that you
put the volume number, Like let's say you're on number
one for the year number two and you're not on
number three and they're about to roll it, and then
the year number. Right, So this is my first edition
of this for the year of twenty three, and so
these will also lay in series and be different colors

(01:37:02):
for the different books as well. But we wanted you
to be able to track that on the outside since
it was so thick. I mean, I could have made
a six hundred page book, but I didn't feel like
doing that, and I don't think anybody'd want to carry
it around. So three of these complete a year. But
it is a very in depth, mindful practice that's customizable
to you. Like I said, so it's cool now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:21):
You mentioned gratitude. For me, this is one of the
most important tools in my tool bag. If I am
not grateful on a daily basis, it will start to
affect my life in ways where it'll drag me down,
versus the times where I'm super grateful and very aware
of my blessings on a daily basis and acknowledging that

(01:37:44):
and how good things go whenever I'm in that state
of mind versus the other.

Speaker 4 (01:37:49):
Right, beautiful, Absolutely, gratitude is key. It is so key,
and it is sometimes hard to come by. I know
that sounds again. I'm coming out of a weird spot,
just such a riddled time of resistance, and I'm a
birthday death portal. I heard somebody refer to what I'm
experiencing as which is a cool band name if it's
not all right, So going through the birthday death portal,

(01:38:11):
the energy has been all fucked. But yeah, man, gratitude
is the key. There's so many different things I've talked about,
even a bracelet on your arm, maybe your partner's hairtie,
something like that, to where every time you touch it,
you think of how grateful you are for them. Even
if you're in a fight, you think of the grateful
things that you have for that partnership. If you've got
maybe like a little rock or something you keep in

(01:38:31):
your pocket. I know Neil donnod Walsh talked about this
in Conversations with God, the idea that you have a
gratitude rock. Basically, it's just a reminder. It's just to say, hey,
I'm grateful and I every time I touch this, I
think it's something I'm grateful for. Now, with this practice,
there's the ability for you to go really deep with it.
You gratitude for me is it's so important. It's hard

(01:38:55):
to talk about it. It's hard to like think of
being without it. But again, I was coming out of
a time where I saw no gratitude. Nothing looked pretty.
Everything sucked. It was just this void like suck this
life out of me. It's sucked. But in there I
still found things to be grateful for. But like you,
I was searching, dude. There were moments man, I was
looking I'm like, man, fuck everything like everything sucked, dude,

(01:39:15):
And but I was you could still be grateful because
I still had a voice to yell about how pissed
off I was, And I was grateful for that, To
be honest with you, I was grateful that I wasn't
physically uncapable of punching something if I wanted to express
my anger that way. I didn't, but I was. You
can get that silly with it, you know. I'm grateful
that I can fill my lungs with air and yell
as loud as I want.

Speaker 1 (01:39:35):
Do you think it's necessary that we receive that level
of pockets of resistance like what you were saying, like
what you were describing you recently experienced. You think it's
necessary that we go through those kind of dark knights
of the soul in order to expand forward.

Speaker 4 (01:39:53):
Yes, as all attempts to say that that is not
the case, and that I can find a different way
for everybody, and then I'll let everyone know about it.
I will report back to you, weak, weakened, tired, and
like with little tufts of smokes tears, still smoking, and say,
there's shit do you go through? And it's all personal
and it's all you, and it tears the old you down.

(01:40:15):
And so this is the thing, And I know that
you found this out about your show. When you did it,
that was the death of an old version of you
that created that. But you needed to kill off, literally
smother that old version of you that got you to
that point. This is what's fucked about this experience that
I've really come too lately, Chris. And again you're catching
me on a real fiery time in my life right

(01:40:36):
now to where I'm like a little fucking pissed off
at everything.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
So now this is great. We all go through our
troughs and valleys and we got experience at.

Speaker 4 (01:40:43):
All, you know, And with this one it was so
deep that it was just like it, why does everything
have to fucking suck? Dude? And I got to the
point where I'm like so analytical with it too. I'm
sitting here going, well that this is the press. I'm
just gonna sit here, you know, fuck all of this,
Like I'm not. What it felt like was I just
kept standing up to getting kicked in the nuts and
I would sit there and I'd go, okay, like I
don't want to do this anymore. So no, no, it's gonna

(01:41:05):
be different this time. I'm telling you, You're so closer. Vibration,
it's so high you're right there. And then I'd stand up.
I go, oh, okay, cool, yeah, okay. It started getting
the flow, it start to get momentum, kicked in the
nuts and I was like, what the fuck is going on?
And it really got to this last one, dude, to
where I was like, I'm done getting kicked in the nuts.
I felt like I was just fucking done with it.
And what it was was it was the death of
this old version of me that was scared to be
seen in the way that this journal is already doing.

(01:41:27):
And I've done no promotion for it. This is huge
for people, and I knew this. So much resistance has
been wrapped up into this, and I'll come back to
why that it was down to. So again, the process
of how I did this, I'm just real quick. I
hand drew all this stuff on my architecture table back there.
So these are like hand drawings that I then took
did ink release of and then scan those in at

(01:41:48):
my local UPS store, which I had smudgeons on the ink
seal see artifacts on the on the thing here. Plus
it's not perfect, you'll see little things, but it's mine,
you know, It's it's authentic, it's real. But going through this,
I would get to the point to where, okay, I'm
on the last fucking thing, and it was like one
thing after another after another. Once I decided, okay, I'm
publishing this, it was like this got fucked up. The

(01:42:09):
miller broke like something weird, like a water pipe broke,
a cat got cut and had to be ran to
the vet. When I had this much time to finish
the project to get it scanned today, well everything shut down, right.
That's resistance that takes priority. So there was that. There
was the light broke on the very last drawing that
I was done that night. Dude, I'm sitting here last things.

(01:42:29):
It was eighteen hand drawings that I did with this,
and they were so tedious that I'm sitting here with
this pin and I'm just like, oh my god, it's last.
It's almost done. And the light goes bunk and like
bumped the pin and shit, and I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (01:42:40):
It was this, All of this resistance was wrapped into this,
and thank god. A couple of years ago, somebody recommended
a book called The War of Art. It's by a
guy named Stephen Pressfield. I actually just reposted a video
on Instagram of him on somebody Else's show on an interview.
But anyway, this dude is normally a piction writer, right,
but he wrote this book called The War of Art.
It's like a two and a half hour audio book. Listen,

(01:43:00):
it's great. But for folks like us, folks who say, like,
we don't want to sit in any cubicle, right, then
there is something called the resistance that you encountered when
you break out of that, because it's sort of a
rites of passage, it's sort of a how bad do
you want it?

Speaker 2 (01:43:13):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:43:13):
I wish this wasn't the case. And again i'd like
to tell you guys that I found another way and
that it's easy and all of that good stuff, like
you probably you know, like I was told, I don't
find that to be the case for me. If that's
somebody else's experience, dope, I have found that I need
to find the thousand ways not to make a light
bulb before the motherfucker goes on. And so with this thing, though,
there was again just so much resistance wrapped up into it.

(01:43:36):
What Stephen Pressfield talks about as any artist, musician, writer, documentary, filmmaker, podcaster,
any artists of any kind something like that that's breaking out.
You will be constantly encountered with something called the resistance. Now,
what's awesome about this is used to whatever I first
before I knew what this concept was in the way
that he framed it, which just changed my perception about it.

(01:43:58):
Was guys, to look at the it's like, why is
my mom mad at me right now? And this is
fucked up and this is happening. But what it was
I didn't connect it, but what it is now and
sort of like we look at the phenomena with the
UFO with aranormal, we're looking at it sort of like
there's an element of something woven in together there. Well,
whenever you look at this thing called resistance, you would
see that it's not this over here, that over here

(01:44:18):
problem three four and five as well. It's everything acting
on behalf of the resistance, and its job is to
make sure that you are worth your salt, and if
you don't have it, it will beat it out of
you as long as you keep going, and so you
literally kill the old version of you to create the new.
And this version of me was stubborn as fuck man,

(01:44:39):
and it was a beat down dude. It was I'm
telling the darkest, deepest depression I've ever been in, and
I can't express it other than that I went to
go upload this thing. The only thing I can metric
is the timeline. I went to go upload this thing,
and it felt like I went to go upload and
I died with it, like handing it over the finish line,
you know what I mean, and then somebody just picked

(01:45:00):
it up. I was like, Oh, okay, And that's what
it felt like. With the amount of energy, with the
amount of resistance that I battled through with this, with
the personal growth through that it dimmed everything for me
to just breathe for three weeks. For me, I've seen
every experience that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
It seems like there's constantly a new version of myself
waiting to come through, and there's constantly this death and
rebirth that I experience. And it's just like you explain,
we go through these these difficult times where it's like
a growth period, but we're trying to understand what we're
coming into and we may throw resistance, and the resistance

(01:45:40):
comes whenever we we fight against the death that you
were just speaking of. The best part about it is
there's constantly at least for me, it seems like there's
gonna be a new one coming up in the future,
and I've always got to be accepting that I have
to kill off an old part of myself to accept
a new part.

Speaker 4 (01:46:00):
You know, what I'm looking forward to is not needing
it to be that way, you know what I'm saying.
If we're like, if we have the insight to be
able to at least I can look at my parents
and say that there are some ideals where we differentiate,
where I can pick up a little bit where they
left off. So now let's say that we can look
at the idea that that's the case, that that's the
modus operandi of this place, which is true for us
from our current understanding. That's the way I've experienced it,

(01:46:22):
that's the way you've experienced it. I'm sure I'm getting
a lot of nods out there as we're talking about this,
But it's just like all the other conversations we're having
about consciousness here, it's like, why can't we choose to
view it differently, which makes us experience it differently? Now
I realize that I can just let that flow out
of my mouth, and the simplicity seems just oh, okay,

(01:46:43):
I'll just fuck me right, I'll just go do that.
But there's no easyness to that at all. There's no
ease in that. At least I did an experience that
I'm not projecting this to it, create a coloring book
and fill it in for you, Like everybody's going to
have their own experience of this. But I just chose
to feel it really darkly, man. And again, it's not
something I usually embrace, and so it was a side

(01:47:03):
of myself that I saw. It scared the shit out
of me. I found out it was very fucking powerful
and that that dude does not fuck around. And I'm
proud of him because he's gotten us where we are.
And there was a balance that needed to occur that
that I was given the opportunity to recognize in a
way that I can't ignore, and in that way, it
changed me. Dude, I've got a little PTSD. To be

(01:47:25):
honest with you, I don't know if you've got ever gone.
I had like a traumatic experience with yourself. Does this
make sense where you like pick the shit out of
yourself for a certain amount of time? Okay, I didn't.
I know, I'm not alone I was hoping I was,
you know that no one else experienced this, but dude,
it was just such a beatdown that I've just got
such a like apprehension. I would say, Tom, that's it.

(01:47:52):
I would I've got an apprehension as where I'll stop
the sentence. And that's what's so interesting about this. It's
there was such uh, I don't not confidence, but there
was such like there was a feeling, you know, you
could feel it. It was a direction. It was a
cardinal clear bell that was rang and that sounded pure
and true. And you know, what I honestly figured out
also is the way that I expend energy. So it

(01:48:15):
would also say this to anybody who's experienced burnout, because
what I feel was like a bunch of shit at once,
and it was all this perfect timing of shit. It
was this extreme burnout, which I didn't know what that was.
And then also my birthday death portal whatever that is,
maybe my midlife crisis or whatever, just turned forty one yesterday.
I don't feel like I'm a bummer, but you know
what I mean, it just hit me and there was

(01:48:37):
no ignoring it. And so all of these things are
sort of hit me at once and what I thought
about and what you know, it's kind of been coming to.
This is the way that I use energy. And somebody,
a dear friend of mine, Jared Kenyon, have had him
on the show. He was messaging me and just being
very sweet. I like, you know, shut the world off.
But he messaged me and said, you know, I did
some digging into your human design and I wanted to

(01:48:57):
let you know because you're like me, that you have
an rude And I didn't know what the fuck he
was talking about. He was like, you have an open root,
and so that means that you just go and you
expend this energy into your extreme burnout and then you've
got nothing left. And so I thought about this, dude,
And so what I thought about is I need to
keep an eye on my engine. Okay, And this analogy
came to me where think about the Aurora project. Remember

(01:49:18):
those pulse engines that are called ion engines. Remember that
how they work and why they're so successful. It's such
a red volutionary technology is because it's amazing thrust propulsion,
but it pulses so that there's no length in time duration,
but it allows it to get these longer distances because
of the pulse and then a shockwave. Again, it's a
more efficient way for this type of speed travel. So

(01:49:42):
the engine itself functions in that way. So in the
same way that an ion engine pulses is not to
go into burnout. I also need to keep an eye
on my engine to make sure that I don't do
the same. And these little like ways I learned lessons.
I fucking hate it, dude, I'll be honest with you.
I wish I could just get a goddamn download that

(01:50:03):
like the matrix and they could just show me shit
instead of it being this whatever the fuck the last
three weeks were you know what I'm saying. It's just again,
it's traumatic. What the fuck are we doing here? Right?

Speaker 1 (01:50:15):
Well, when that happens to me, it it does happen
in waves, and I forget the abilities that I have
to manifest. I forget that I can visualize, that I
can go into a meditative state and use my positive
intention and visualize certain outcomes and if I am putting

(01:50:36):
the effort in time into doing this enough, that outcome
will eventually manifest. If I am constantly worried about, say
the income that I'm revenue, that i'm making the money
that's coming in, I will have a problem with money
coming in. But if I spend it like I have it,
if I spend it like water, if I'm having a

(01:50:56):
good time and not don't worry about it, there's usually
this steady flow. And it's it's something that I found
that goes along with the resistance that we were talking about,
that we cause for ourselves by by worrying about it,
and it creates these energetic blocks that prevent the money
from coming in, that prevent the creativity from flowing, that

(01:51:18):
create that prevent all the things that we're trying to
have these beautiful outcomes for. But with the slightest bad
outcome or or a crack in the wall we get,
we get down on ourselves, and that that causes that
negative energy to come out and cause our own blockages.

Speaker 4 (01:51:37):
If you know what I mean, I'm spell wither stepping
in more than you know, because then I'm sitting here saying, well,
fuck like I felt like I folded so fucking hard
under the lightest of pressures. And this is what honestly
bummed me out more than anything. It was like my constitution.
I thought I had more, you know, I thought. I
was like, fuck yeah, I got this shit. I'm resolved,
you know, I got this figured out. I you know
those little boxes there got a little character on usually

(01:52:00):
a robot. It's a square platform underneath it. You push
the bottom of it and it folds down, it like collapses, okay,
and then you let go and it springs back line.
That's what I felt like. I felt like it was
a paper tiger, like it was fuck all. And that
honestly is what destroyed me the most. It was this
idea that I didn't have this fortitude to weather this
with the knowing awareness that I carried this entire time

(01:52:22):
and fuck yeah, it's gonna work out. Fuck you, I'm
on the right path. Fuck yeah, this is it. And
all of it vanished in a way that I couldn't
explain other than the void if you've ever done psychedelics.
It was this complete absence of joy, beauty, anything, and
I just beat the shit out of myself for weeks,
and even knowing what I know about manifestation, not feeling
like I'm great at it. Knowing what I know, I

(01:52:44):
felt like I was really great at it then, and
that the only thing I was great at was making
sure that I ensure that that was a perpetual manifestation
for myself was where I was because of how powerful
that motherfucker is now and to the points where that's
the thing you harness. You know, that's what you tapped
into and you flip the script on it, as they say,
you grab that power and you change its energy. And

(01:53:07):
I was just giving a glimpse into how powerful it was,
and it scared the shit out of me, and it
bugged me more than bugged me. I'm being very easy
on myself by saying that it bugged me to say
that I was fuck all against it and it was weird.
It was really weird.

Speaker 1 (01:53:23):
For those moments of resistance. I find personally, what has
been a miracle tool for me has been magic mushrooms,
different psychedelic plant medicines. It'll bring back my perspective. And
I'm so grateful for having the access to some of
these plant medicines because they've completely changed my life. I

(01:53:45):
owe I owe so much to being able to utilize
psilocybin and magic mushrooms in my experiences.

Speaker 4 (01:53:54):
That's awesome, man. And see, the last time I did
mushrooms was two thanksgivings ago. Actually I had a microtism
between that that had the same result. I was anxious
as fuck. I couldn't handle it, Like, I didn't. I
didn't like it, you know, it was just this really
anxious thing. I was like crying and I wasn't getting insights.
I was like again bummed out it was it didn't
I didn't and I attempted to integrate those so hard.

(01:54:16):
I was like, what was that? Like what I've never
experienced ot on mushrooms ever, And the only thing I
sort of felt was that I just am not supposed
to be doing them right now, which means now I
understand the benefit because I've received the benefits of them
as you my friend. It makes me feel like it
almost held a coping mechanism back that would have kept

(01:54:41):
me from this greater understanding, you know, with it, like
if I would have been able to ease myself into this. Again,
I wish I didn't learn this way, Okay, I wish
I could just get it download. I know kung fu,
I know how to like, you know, process emotions properly.

Speaker 2 (01:54:53):
You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:54:54):
It doesn't it just doesn't for me. I need to
go down those shit paths, and so with that, I
just found that it that's what I choose, And so
I'm not welcomed to the mushroom right now. It doesn't
or I'm not welcoming the mushroom, is how I'll put it.
I'm always welcome there, but it doesn't. I'm a little
again PTSD about it. It was such a jarring experience
for me, and an inverse of anything I've ever connected

(01:55:16):
with mushrooms before that I was like, what the fuck
is this? Even in a microds right after, just to
see if I could, like baby water the thing, you know,
baby pulled the thing back into it, but no, it
was the same thing, anxious, if not more. It was
just really interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:55:30):
Well, I find it super interesting. The amount of friends
and colleagues that I have that have either recently are
are right now going through these similar feelings is what
you might call dark knight of the soul. I have
recently gone through similar myself. There's been a lot of

(01:55:50):
resistance producing this documentary, as we were talking about earlier,
and it seems that the more people are collectively coming
online and becoming aware, there is like this collective resistance
that's fighting against our collective awakening because it wants us

(01:56:10):
to become the best that we can in our spiritual awakening.
If you know what I mean. Does that make sense?

Speaker 4 (01:56:17):
It completely does, dude. I'm reading micro Exsecker's new book,
The Time in his new series. Have you gotten them
on yet?

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
About head?

Speaker 4 (01:56:23):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
The other day?

Speaker 4 (01:56:24):
Badass? Okay, awesome shout out. I thought so. But anyway,
I'm reading that. In there, you was talking about the
Ora Boris right up top, and I was like, yes,
And when he talks about this wheel of time and
you think about everybody who's got their own little oraboris,
I just, you know, broke a fuckload of cycles. And
that's what this Time allowed me to do is look
at the snake and go, hang on, I'm done with this.
I'm breaking these off and cutting the snake off so

(01:56:46):
it can't eat itself again. But in the same way,
this is happening on a macro and a micro level
with everyone, So it does feel like collectively this these
cycles are breaking. But that's a loss of sustenance for
the creature that's been surviving on itself and that wheel
of time. So that's what you've got to convince. It's
okay to do is for that creature to survive off

(01:57:07):
of its own cyclical nature, which is just regurgitating these
cycles and this never ending masturbatory process of learning shit
the hard way and things being shitty and like whatever,
I feel it's ending like you do, and I think
that that's what we're kind of here to do. We're
all like little bombs inside the oroboris and we just
kind of like came in here and we've set ourselves

(01:57:29):
off at these as these beam of lights and we're
blowing this thing to pieces from the inside and it's
just breaking the cycle down. It's just just saying, okay,
that's enough. And that comes with destruction, that comes with inertia,
that comes with a lot of uncomfortable ease. But what
it is and how it is explained to me, which
also kind of sucks. By the way, we're signed up
with a bunch of things like contracts, like past life

(01:57:50):
stuff that you're not privy to because you can't be.
But do you just have to trust in the fact
that that's what's going on because you're supposed to feel
better about it, which I've I've got my own feelings
about that as a sovereign being. But anyway, when you
look at things like breaking down these ideals that are
things outside of you, like these ways in which you
learn things, these patterns that you exist within that are

(01:58:12):
sort of caught in the tornado of it's what affects
the change. And it's fascinating to me because I've found
this like inner journey to be the thing that attracts
the people out here who are making the change, which
then amplifies the change. And so it's a fascinating thing
that you go within to amplify you to be a
bright enough light to be seen by the other bright
lights to then grab each other and then brighten each

(01:58:34):
other's lights, which is you know, and then they tell
two friends and so on and so on, right, and
it's this illumination idea, But it's breaking this cycle of
patterns that has just gone on, you know, And it
was an experience. It's a whirlpool. You can think about
just God getting stuck in around about over in England.
You know, it's his first time there, he's never done

(01:58:55):
it before. He just got kind of Benny Hill stuck
at it and we got stuff the cycle and then
now we're just sort of breaking out of it. Oh,
now we know we need to go that way, and
it just feels like a change, whether it was a
timed thing or what, because the cycles even feel like spirals, right,
we're still spiraling in an upward elevating direction so that
we can expand out of this.

Speaker 1 (01:59:15):
And then there's the other layer of resistance where we
have our community, our truth community, our spiritual community, this
group of people that wants to spiritually evolve and have
our consciousness grow, and we have resistance to that from
those that want a technocratic state, that those that don't

(01:59:37):
want a spiritual reality, those that are trying to extinguish spirituality,
which there are very powerful groups of people that are
doing so right now. So there are layers of resistance
that we have to fight against, and it can be
very difficult at times if you don't have the right
kind of spiritual foundations.

Speaker 4 (01:59:59):
Yeah, yeah, and a compass. Really, your discernment is what
I feel is the most important. Right now, I've fell
into a bunch of spiritual traps. I've been led into
ideals that yeah, you and so here's the idea and
how it goes, right, And I'm just going to say
this was as much respect as I can, as this
is my experience. I've always questioned, you know, the interface

(02:00:19):
that folks have with these type of phenomena, whether it
be contact, your contact with your spirit, entities, angels, anything
like this. I think it's all awesome, right, I love it.
I don't have the experience. I don't have something up
here that's going, hey, go this way, or hey, here's
a little feather I left in your way, or hey,
this is significant. I feel sometimes that I am aware

(02:00:42):
of synchronicities, but how people speak about direct contacts with entities,
with direct communication with God, with any sort of reinforcing entity,
I don't feel I have. I also don't now whether
I am or not. This is just I guess part
of the role that I'm meant to play here. But
I don't feel again like I have Oh yeah, yeah,

(02:01:02):
that's what to do. It's a it's a more trial
and error thing for me, which again I feel that
a lot of there's a lot of insight and benefit
to that as well. But to say that people have
this interface with something and can tell you what you
should be experiencing is powerful, and there are some people
out there that know that that's very powerful and will

(02:01:24):
deliberately mislead people for their own ends, or maybe their
own their own mind is misleading them, their own compass
is forging them through a path that then you get
to the end of and it's just a big boulder
at the end of a you know, you can't go
anywhere kind of cliff kind of the thing. And so
it's not that you're misled, it's that there are such
interesting ways in which you receive hope in this place,

(02:01:47):
and hope is fucking hard to come by these days.
And so with an uptick of our availability to receive information,
with the uptick of people that feel that they have
the answers and that they have big followings and that
you know, they look at a certain watch, these like this
is our time, where this is the discernment, this is
where your heart is guiding everything. If it sucks in

(02:02:08):
your life, get it out of there. There's a great
mantra that I've got that you could put in your
Mindful Expansion journal if you want, and it's if if,
if it's.

Speaker 2 (02:02:17):
Not worth.

Speaker 4 (02:02:20):
God damn it, I just threw myself off here. I
was thinking of something else. If it devalues my worth,
it it will be replaced. And to that end, just
replace the shit. You know, there are these like grace
periods people people feel that they need to give in consideration.
I think people pleasing is fucking done. I think this
idea of that fear is going to be the way
to motivate people is fucking done. And that's what I'm

(02:02:41):
most excited about moving forward. If it devalues your worth,
it will be replaced. That's it. But you have to
know what your worth is. And that's what we're learning
through our discernment. You're sitting here saying, Okay, I'm worth this.
I'm not worth being bullied around by something. I'm not
worth somebody making me feel in addequate when I know
i'm the shit. You know, things like this. It's asserting
your boundaries and it's a fascinating time to do so.

Speaker 1 (02:03:02):
It is, man, it's a fascinating time to do a
lot of things. I love that people are doing their
own forms of entertainment, starting their own businesses, starting their
own podcasts, starting their own movies, doing things that are
going to help us all collectively exit the system that
we're currently in. So it's super exciting times. And speaking

(02:03:23):
of exciting times. Last time I spoke with you, you
were working with Dave zed on a few concepts and
theories when it comes to free energy and this source
of energy and intelligence that surrounds us at all times
that we could possibly tap into. Have you had any

(02:03:43):
new revelations or insights since we last spoke about this it?

Speaker 4 (02:03:48):
Honestly no. Dave has shared a couple of things with
me that I'm not allowed to share, but that I
will say look awesome, and I will say that some
experiments are continuing and that they're very interesting. I think
the whole thing is fascinating. And you can just go
through TikTok all day long. It's not what we're doing
in this garage or whatever's going on in any garages.
There's a lot of garages where some amazing things are happening.

(02:04:11):
With magnets, with certain liquids, it's fun in certain directions,
with current, with variants of current, with angles, angles very
important on this kind of stuff. So there's all of
these things that lead us to believe that it's all
around us all the time, and there are some interesting
experiments that you can do with things that you can
get fairly relatively easily and then scaling those up is

(02:04:34):
what would be interesting. Now, all of this, I think
is at the very beginnings of.

Speaker 2 (02:04:38):
What we're.

Speaker 4 (02:04:41):
I don't know enough about it to say where we
are with it. I will say that there's some interesting
things that are going on, and I love the progress
because you can see what's happening and then imagine it
bigger and it's like.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
Yeah, do you get a sense that with what Dave's
doing that he may have a somewhat clear path to
do so? As for are as three letter agency, resistance,
black projects, military industrial interests that may give him problems
either now or in the future, do you see him

(02:05:12):
being able to bypass that?

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
Any answer that question is going to be speculation. I
have no idea. I know that I love that man,
and that he's a dear friend to me, and that
whenever he's here, I enjoy his company, and that we've
done some really cool shit and had some amazing conversations.
But as far as three letter agencies or anything like that,
I can't speak to because I don't know. You know,
I wish would be best.

Speaker 1 (02:05:33):
So luck man, he's doing some great stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:05:36):
It's amazing. Yeah, And I like being surprised. He'll pop
in everything and be like, hey, I'm like, holy shit.
So he does. It's doing some amazing things, and we,
like you said, wish him.

Speaker 1 (02:05:44):
While absolutely all right on now in the realms of
possibilities of the unknown, we've had some interesting revelations come
out of our mainstream lately. When it comes to disclosure,
of course, with it comes the the arguing camps of
whether it's real or not, whether we're being deceived once

(02:06:05):
again or not. I always question everything, especially since the
experiences we've had post twenty twenty with our media and
government not being honest with us and trying to deceive
us on various levels. So if we haven't learned to
question authority by now, shame on us. But we've had

(02:06:27):
some interesting things come out that I have to pay
attention to. I'm entertained by, and I'm fascinated by. The
most recent is the revelation of alien bodies from Peru
that to me look like a terrible paper mache project.
And unfortunately it's coming from a gentleman who's been known

(02:06:48):
for we'll just say, fraudulent reproductions of beings before. So
this is gonna be a tough one to decipher the
Peru the government says it's fake. The Mexican government says
it's real. I have half of my friends saying it's real,
half of my friends saying it's not real. I am

(02:07:08):
not going to take any stance at this time. I'm
collecting data, but I would love to get your insights.

Speaker 4 (02:07:15):
Also collecting data, I find that there's what they're saying
and how they're saying. It's more important than what they're saying,
if that makes sense, Like how they're saying it. What
we're being shown, same thing that I've said with this
idea of disclosure and what's going on, and it's how
it's touted in the military, and how they're not calling you.
You know, guys that's been doing this as long as

(02:07:35):
you have gotten the insights, you have personal experiences. They
don't have you on CNN talking right now or whatever.
You're not the main focus of the attention, which is
what I would like to see more grassroots narrative, which
is where the entities themselves seem to find themselves, is
in contact with folks on a real grassroots level. It
being framed in the military. Just again, I look at

(02:07:57):
all contacts with this. It makes me feel like there's
some sort of mindset or some predictive programming going on
in the fact that they would like to perception manage
how you view this thing. And whenever they're talking about
like the Vegas thing, like oh, these this thing came
down and here's this horrible video and these entities are
now invading homes and so now your backyard isn't even safe, right,

(02:08:18):
And then you have the military standing up there saying, oh, well,
we've got a bunch of things to tell you, swink wink,
but we can't tell you out here, so we're going
to talk about it later. But they talk about these
I feel that it's such a theatrically played out event
that whatever happens next, no one's going to believe. And
this is why when the aliens, whatever happens next, there
will be fifty to fifty of us that are sitting

(02:08:39):
here going Bluebeam are real. And I think that it's
been led to that point on purpose. I think that
the stuff can't hide anymore. And so we've been shown
and gas lit and shown and gas lit. Think about
sex in this country, Oh, don't have sex, but if
very thing is sexualized from the time you're now like,
I don't even know these kids are grown up or

(02:09:00):
just bombarded with this shit. But don't do it. Don't
do it. Aliens aren't real in Your government doesn't know
anything about it. Aliens aren't really in. Your government doesn't
know anything about it. If you look into it, you're
a fool. If you look into it, you're a fool. Now,
aliens are really your government knows about it. You've got
to look into this. But the narrative is the same,
it's the same thing. It just shows that you've been
walked into this. And even Robbie Graham Man rest in peace.

(02:09:22):
Robbie Graham, he wrote Silver Screen Saucers, and he talked
about the narrative like the mindset of the government's infiltration
into movie, TV's everything, radio, anything to steer the narrative
of how aliens, UFOs and everything were talked about it. First,
you couldn't talk about them at all. The only time
they started getting acceptable was when they started asking the

(02:09:42):
military for assets for their films, which then the military
would give as long as they had some little tweaks
to the script.

Speaker 2 (02:09:49):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:09:50):
They had to be framed that the aliens were bad
people and that they were harming and that the US
government were the ones coming to save. In any movie
you look at like that, that's sort of how it's framed,
especially when then you started getting Michael Bay and all that,
and that changes. But the narrative has been this, we
should scare them, or they're not real. You should be
scared of them, or they're not real. But now they're
telling you that they are real and that you should

(02:10:12):
be scared of them. So what the fuck is going
on here? And again I think that the narrative is
just leading you to this idea that no matter what
you see next, you are really going to have to
be the judge for yourself. They could fake so much.
Look at our politicians with the masks, look at the
CGI shit they're doing. Well, yeah, christ exact.

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
They believe that it's all connected, it's all for a
greater purpose. There seems to be this prophetic playbook, and
I want to get your insights into this. I've talked
about this a couple of times. In about ninth grade,
they were showing a video. I went to a Christian
school and they were showing a very low budget video

(02:10:50):
that was probably just produced for certain Christian schools that
portrayed what it would be like during the apocalypse, and
they had everything from wars, pandemics, and then a fake
alien invasion Bluebeam style that would then ensure the global
New World Order to be able to take over everything.
And this was like nineteen ninety two, ninety ninety three,

(02:11:13):
I don't remember exactly. Is in the nineties, mid nineties,
and I used to think it was the most hilarious
video ever. Me and my friends would laugh at it.
But looking back, it's it foretold basically everything that we're
seeing now. And look at Hollywood, like you were just saying,
Hollywood and the media, the programming we've been receiving, they

(02:11:35):
have been essentially right about everything, but it's been portrayed
in such a fantastical way, in such a way that
we won't believe it because we're supposed to believe that
it's fantasy based on everything that has unfolded so far.
But now it's like we've just been being prepared for something.

(02:11:57):
And this is across the board with the events we're
seeing from pandemics to global wars to psychological operations, and
now it seems extraterrestrials has a tie in there, and
it's never exactly what they've shown us in the media,
but there is. It's on a grander scale. It is
if you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (02:12:18):
I love that you said this. I also want to
point out that you said they were right. Maybe they
were right is one option to take, and we're going
to do that one too. They were good at getting
us to create. Is another way of looking at that
exact same thing with the opposite energy. So another way
to look at that is this predictive programming element. Maybe
it is sort of this revelation of the method they

(02:12:39):
have to tell you what they're doing. But also maybe
it's a predictive programming to where they've told you what
to create because you're the one creating it. So if
you're bombarding yourself with these you know, cataclysmic times, you're
watching movies like all throughout the nineties, like we did,
like about Asteroid and all these awesome cataclysmic movies, and
now we seem to be seeing those things. Maybe it's

(02:13:00):
just a really long drawn out way of getting us
to collectively create this. And then whenever you get to
a time like this where you see things sort of
manifesting in the way that they do. You have a
lot of people who believe in religions, and a lot
of religions specifically say that it's going to end at
some time, that people are going to go somewhere, some
people are going to go somewhere else, and that you
should expect certain things now as the water temperature turns

(02:13:23):
up on a system that's obviously been doing this on
purpose for a very long time, as more people can
see it, as we've been saying for a very long
time now, but as more people see it, it's not
too late, but it is to this turning point to
where it seems like now people are expecting the end
of times, and so therefore maybe we're going to start
seeing plagues and shit because of how powerful we are
now to that line just staying there if we can

(02:13:46):
catch it, if we will, or we can at least
gain awareness before it gets to their pass what it's
called the PSR. The point is safer return to where
you do just sort of create this cataclysm. But either
way it's discovered. Right, Let's say that there's a fork
in that idea. We figure it out that we're all
creating and all powerful, and we are creating this. Therefore
we avert the catastrophe that we were going to create

(02:14:08):
by the awareness, or we go through the catastrophe. Having
gone through it, gained the awareness that prevents anything else
in the future, and that's where this utopia is discovered.
Another way to say it back to what you were saying,
is they were right, meaning maybe they have some sort
of control over this. That's where you look into things
like project looking glass and stuff like that. This cronovars
or idea that these time travelers are all running around

(02:14:31):
everywhere or doing whatever, but there's advanced knowledge of at
least predictable timelines or probable timelines, as they say, so
with some degree of certainty, then they can say things
like you don't need to buy volcano insurance Antarctica. Right,
So there's sort of like some certainty as far as
the level of timeline, and so they can steer the
narrative or at least maybe predict something or give you

(02:14:53):
some advanced knowledge. Now that then leans on the idea
that either they have to or that they desire to
let you know what's going on in a certain way,
which I don't know, if there's some karma bound to
do so. Then they're grade at symbolism and hiding it.
But also it's this elimination process that either way is
taking place. So again, that's where.

Speaker 1 (02:15:15):
I'm at right now. Is what you just said about
us creating it. I think that resonates with me greatly
because I think that we are creator beings. I think
this realm is for us to create, and we manifest
our reality. This is our realm that we are perpetually creating,
and it's based on our previous experiences and the input

(02:15:38):
we'll receive on a daily basis, but ultimately are the
projection of what we visually take in and experience will
create the next eventuality in the next experience. And I
think that if there are negative forces we want to
call them demonic entities, lower vibrational entities, that they may

(02:15:59):
not have that divine spark or creative ability, so they
have to whisper in our ears and create events or
circumstances that cause us to in turn ultimately create reality
to manifest a certain outcome.

Speaker 4 (02:16:15):
What do you think about that nailed it? You've absolutely
nailed it. I think of that movie Constantine, with Gavin
Rosdale's character whenever he can just whisper into the guy's ear,
and the guy goes into the store and drinks himself
to death. Right, Yeah, And so it's this idea that
you can be influenced. But this is where your constitution
comes in. This is where your discernment comes in. You
know which person do you trust, like, how do you

(02:16:36):
navigate that, what do you look for in a partner?
All of these things are what are so incredibly important
for you to know about yourself. But it's so that
on a micro independent level, you don't get bamboos on
these larger levels that we're encountering now, the thing coming
out of your TV. There's a lot of people back
in that idea, man, and it's very hard to be
one of the only ones, probably in your family, your

(02:16:57):
neighborhood or city that says anything it or even feels
anything differently about it. And so to be that one
shows something different and this ubiquity in I want to
say sheepalism. I'd sort of see this as part of
the experience if we dip it into the idea of
NPCs and entities and things like this. These are just
inhabited vesle vessels. Folks like you and I are probably

(02:17:20):
part of this group of paintballers. Let's say that rented
the place for the weekends, and there's maybe let's say
one hundred and forty four thousand of us just for
shits and gits. Let's say we come into this realm,
we incarnate a few times within this system, and there
is a system here where other than one hundred and
forty four thousand souls or entities, all the other people
are background people are part of the matrix. And the

(02:17:42):
reason they exist is so that you need to really
swim against the current. You need to know where to grow,
where you're planted, and that's not given to you again
in this place, whatever this place is. I wish I
could a new Concuno, but we don't do that here.
And so it seems that the environment in which you are,
of course shapes how you're grown in there. There's no
arguing on the studies that have been done on that
and then your own observation. But you can look at

(02:18:05):
that then and extrapolate it out to a larger idea
with some emotional maturity, like what we're talking about, where
we can look at other people and go that motherfucker
back there, he's not real, right, and say that maybe
you guys are just background filler of motherfuckers, just kind
of walking around here with all the love in our heart,
and I still treat you the same, just like I
think somebody's Alexa that plays the song because we don't
have one. But what I mean to say is is

(02:18:26):
that this idea of you transcending this game in that
way is what feels the most right to me, even
though that's like a weird ass thing to say. It
feels like it's sort of not a select group of us,
but there is sort of a renegade group of us
that are in here to change this place. And we
break the oorboris by discovering its flaws, and we're able

(02:18:47):
to navigate this matrix due to whatever skills we brought
in here or some bad motherfuckers. And we though do
this by channeling the energy through us, which is why
we feel it, which is why this sucks. Again. Seems
to be a mechanism of the environment, this reality. Whatever
that we do do that trauma, we will cure it.
But how we cure it is by feeling it and

(02:19:07):
transmuting it through our own awareness. So same thing that
you can say, like I know that I did this
from my family with alcohol, had lineage of alcohol and
my family. I stopped over two years ago. I don't
even remember the day, just stopped. Since then, everything has changed,
you know, a lot of things have changed. But I
had an a Casia record reading where an ancestor came
to me that I didn't know, and she said, there's

(02:19:28):
a man here. He looks like this. He said, thank you,
he's got tears in his eyes. You healed the whole
family line. So rather that's true or not, I feel different.
So that's the case, and then you can reinterpret your
experience here than what you were physically doing is changing
this place from the inside out, because you can in
shit and out beauty. And that's what alchemy is all about.

(02:19:51):
And that's what we do here. We transmit the shit
into beauty. We take the fucked up things that are
going on around us and talk about it on podcasts
and create books and documentaries for you guys and turn
it into fucking goal, the same thing comedians do when
they're you know, the gesture is the only one that
gets to slap the king.

Speaker 2 (02:20:07):
Right.

Speaker 1 (02:20:08):
Well, hell yeah, man, Well let's close with some alchemy today.
This is something new I've been doing for the ending
of my shows. What are some of your favorite most
beautiful things you see happening around you in the world
right now?

Speaker 4 (02:20:21):
Love in community. I'm seeing a lot more community come
together where people are not isolating themselves so much on
these social media apps anymore feeling powerless. They're actually standing
up and taking charge of their lives. I love seeing this.
That's the most beautiful kind of energy transmutation because you've
sat with it and maybe you were again handed that
through your lineage an issue into coping mechanism is what
we're all handed here and our job, I feel, is

(02:20:43):
to again pick up where our parents left off. And
you can do this not only for your folks, but
your whole day in lineage and just by transmitting that
energy and literally by you standing up and doing something
outside of your comfort zone, by being more in touch
with yourself and getting more in touch with your community,
that is transcending those patterns and those blockages, which is
what we're here to do. That's how we break the cycles.

(02:21:06):
It's just by not repeating them, by not feeding energy
into the TV that keeps you scared, by not perpetuating
the ideas and talking gossip about other people that are
just doing the best they can with the information they
have at the time, and you having enough consciousness and
conscientiousness to understand that there's just a lot of growth
that's taking place here, and it's all on an independent level.
But we're all growing up together. And as I've said

(02:21:26):
this whole time, it's not my quote, but I love it.
It's we're all walking each other home. And as long
as you can just stay the course and just know
that you're not alone, just keep moving forward, we'll get
through it.

Speaker 3 (02:21:37):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:37):
Man, so well, said Brandon. Excellent. As usual, before you
head out, let the audience know where they can find
all your amazing content.

Speaker 4 (02:21:47):
Yeah, right now, the podcast goes out anywhere podcasts are served.
It's like we something listener apps. It's ridiculous. And then
you two brocks in Odyssey. All that good stuff. So
check us out there. Socials are abound all that good stuff.
We're damn sure, though, guys. Go to Amazon dot com.
Paperback and hardback copy available of the first volume one
Mindful Expansion, go check it out. Get shows spalk. Awesome

(02:22:08):
bunch of people contributed some amazing quotes in here Charlie
Robinson through a quote here about the way awesome. All right, anyway,
thank you guys, thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:22:17):
Yes, it was awesome and we'll definitely do it again soon.
And until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
talk again tomorrow. We'll see you then

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