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(01:26):
an expert in the occult trauma based mind control Illuminati
symbolism and ancient civilizations. Freeman, how you doing tonight? Wow, Chris,
very good, very good. Now we are living in a
basically borderline dystopian society now, and so much extreme changes

(01:48):
have occurred just in the past five years, and we
got so much to talk about Before we get to that.
Since it's your first time here, give us a bit
about your background and what got you started on your path.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
M You know, if I tell my story, I could
have played it up completely differently, like when I came
to the present myself to the world, because once you
know my life story, you start to go, man, is
this guy in some sort of program? And you know,
after doing some deep research into mind control, you realize

(02:21):
none of those people know whether or not they were
victims of MK culture or whatever. You know, Brittany and Nicole,
things like that. You don't know. But you know, my
life has been so strange from the beginning. My mom
she was raised by a witch, you know, a healer
if you will. You know, we call her a witch,
but you know, in Europe that's a whole different story.

(02:44):
But you know, she was like this woman that would
go out and do rituals under the full moonlight to
heal cows from wartz, you know, stuff like that. And
that was because my mom was running away from the
Nazis and so she was sent to France. So you know,
that's my mom's side. Then Dad, he's he's a Freemason,

(03:06):
was in was on Killer one submarine with Jimmy Carter
and then Chase flying saucers for Project Blue Book. He
was a you know, worshipful master in the Freemasons. And
I didn't know any of this stuff, right, So my
life as well, I've always been somewhat genius, and so

(03:26):
I'm stuck in these high level classes in school. And
I took this course in elementary school that my family
doesn't even know about. I'm like, well, you remember when
I was stuck in that room with just like five
other kids and we were just given all this data.
There were just note cards after note cards for you
to study, study, study, and then take you know, tests
on at self pace. And there was only like five

(03:48):
of us in this class. And my parents are like, oh,
I don't know anything about that. So I've been you know,
I always wonder like what what details were injected into
me at that age, because is like I feel I
learned that Friday the thirteenth was coupled with the Knight's
templar in elementary school, you know, with that story. So

(04:10):
you know, once my story kind of builds up, it
looks a little like, you know, maybe you know I've
lost time after witnessing a giant UFO over Daytona Beach.
And after that event, I started kind of predicting the future.
But I've never played it up as like I was
abducted and given the future or anything like that, which

(04:30):
you know, a lot of times on television or whatever,
you could play these things out saying I went to
Mars or whatever. But no, but I did have this
UFO experience, and then afterwards I started predicting things. But
I never associated these two things. They just kind of
happened at the same time because I had very real
reasons for why I would predict something. So here I
am my little pool going through the world. I'm a nomad.

(04:56):
I'm someone that just travels around and experiences like in
the grandest styles, probably more than I know. Poor little poodle,
she's been everywhere. She was on that school bus for
a year traveling with me. Okay, so uh, let's see
if I can get this to the point. So I
started to discover things about our planet. You know, I

(05:17):
realized my dad was a freemason. I started to learn
that he was associated with Project Blue Book, and then
you know all this other stuff, and uh, all my life,
I've been into this stuff. I thought Acinatin was a
common household term UFOs, all of that. All my life,
I've studied these things. Never once in my life did
my dad mentioned that he was involved. I didn't know

(05:40):
about freemasonry or anything like that until I got to
college and I met this crazy magician and he opened
up the doors to Alister Crowley and Rosea Crucians and
Golden Dawn, and then he opened freemasonry. And when I
saw the signs and symbols in freemasonry, I said, well,
I know this stuff, and he's like, wo, how could
you know this. I didn't even know what the word

(06:01):
esoteric meant. You know, this is nineteen ninety one, No,
Dan Brown, you know, none of that stuff existed. Yet
nobody knew about any of this. And you know, this
crazy magician in my honors class in college and he's
teaching me all this stuff. So it turns out that
that's when I realized, oh my god, my dad's a freemason.

(06:23):
You know college, right, and I was a late bloomer.
I went to college at twenty five, right, So I
find out. I go home. I asked Dad, you know,
are you in this? And he's like yeah, and you
know what tase flying saucers. And that's when everything came out.
And so I'm in disbelief. You know, my entire life
been into all this stuff. I never talked to my dad.

(06:44):
He didn't talk to me, and we never really got along,
and I didn't know any of this stuff, right, So
but it seems to be in my genes, right, you know,
genetic memory. So I took all that knowledge and I
started to wander around the earth with it, and I
I did recognizing signs and symbols everywhere that related to
freemasonry and such. And one day, while I was wandering

(07:06):
through Austin, Texas, this guy's said overheard me talking about
how I predicted nine to eleven and some other things,
and he's like, you need a TV show. And I
was like, what are you talking about? You know, I
was just there for the weekend. And he's like, no, no,
would you do it? I'll write you a check right
now for the cost, and you just go sign up,
all right, put on a TV show. And so I'm like,

(07:29):
you know, I'm just here for the weekend. You know,
I don't live in Austin, Texas. I'm living in my
van on thirty seventh Street. You know, they call it
Christmas Light Street. And you know, I'm just here for
the hang And he's like, no, here, and he wrote
me a check and he said, what do you do it?
And I was like, I'm a man of my word.
Give me the check. I'll do it. As a matter
of fact, I just happened to have this sit in

(07:51):
here because I was working on Smart and all my
work's really been art. But I just thought i'd show
this off because I don't think i've ever shown it
off before. This is the drawing I did to depict
my television show.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
That was all nice.

Speaker 2 (08:06):
You figure it out. So you see all the corporate
logos on the screen. You know. I knew that would
be the first thing that I wanted to teach everyone
is Illuminati corporate logos, because nobody knew this stuff. I
thought it up. You know, that's that's my baby. I
recognized it and laid it out and you know, so
that was my very first TV show and the rest
was history. From there, the world Wide Web came out

(08:29):
because back then it was access television. You know, there
wasn't YouTube didn't exist. Google videos had just come about,
So my video started going up on Google Youth video
and they went viral. So here I am with lots
of ideas and thoughts that I think are very important.

Speaker 1 (08:47):
Very fascinating, and you know, before we get to anything
happening today, I'd like to get you know, I like
to get an understanding of where it all comes from.
And you know, I always hear the theories of the
ruling families and factions have been in control since the
time the Babylonian times or even before in the times

(09:08):
of Atlantis. You know, based on your research, is that
something you would agree with?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Yeah, yeah, it does seem that there are subspecies of human.
You know, we're starting to determine there were other species
of human or other Homo sapien types. And I really
think these guys are some other entities because they just
don't seem human. You know, I watch a lot of
survival shows and when people kill, they're always like, I'm
so sorry little fish, you know, and they cut off

(09:35):
its head and they're so sad about it. But these people,
they have no empathy sympathy at all. Right, they're like plecopa,
blooded killers. Yeah, but yes, when you start to dig
into freemasonry, you learn quickly that they do relate all
the way back to Atlantis. And one of my specialties
was ancient civilizations. I loved it. So when I went

(09:56):
to university after college, that's what I said. It was
ancient architecture and ancient civilizations. So I was really into this.
So when you start to look at the ancient past,
do you look at Baalback, Lebanon, you look at you know,
any of the ancient structures you know from Egypt and
around South America, Central America, all of that. It's so
beyond the capabilities of the twenty first century. And they

(10:19):
tell you this in university. They're like, you know, we
couldn't build the great Eramids today. And I'm certain my
professor was amazing, but you know it's true. There's only
three cranes in the world that can even lift some
of the stones used to build the pyramids. You know,
we can't do it. We couldn't do it even if
we wanted to. And why would you want to? Why
would you build a pyramid? Right, So these type of

(10:39):
questions really built in and I have answers, you know,
why you would build a pyramid? And so, yeah, I
do believe from time immemorial in hidden history, and Atlantis
is absolutely right on the radar freemasonry. They do not
hide that one bit.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Now do you believe that they were dealing with, you know,
advanced ancient technologies, possibly even beyond what we're seeing today,
back in the time of Atlantis.

Speaker 2 (11:11):
Right exactly. And of course the story of Atlantis is
the whole idea that you over compensate your society with technology,
it crumbles and kills and falls on itself, and that's
why Atlantis sank. And you couple that with the concepts
of La Maria, which I rarely talked about. And La
Maria doesn't have the solid history that Atlantis does because

(11:33):
Atlanta's written about by Plato, you know, so it gives
it some more validity. But Lo Maria was supposedly the
opposite where they were all in sync with nature, and
then anything the Atlanteans would do to them would come
back on them like instant karma. And so the story
of Atlantis is this very moment that we're living in

(11:53):
right now, which you know, when we signed America and
New Atlantis or Francis Bake, the Invisible College had a
plan for the creation of this nation, you know, sir
Francis Bake, and that's seventeen hundreds and he writes New
Atlantis and you'll even find things in there where he's
talking about, you know, cloning, you know, things of this nature,

(12:18):
not technical terms like that, but in like plant varieties
and things of that nature. So, yeah, there is an
invisible college that guide's civilization, whether or not there you know,
seeking the good or the bad or indifferent. You know,
it's it's pretty bizarre when you start to recognize that
there are high profile rituals going on in the mainstream.

(12:42):
From my first high profile ritual, which also was in
my first film, was y two K. And immediately at
that moment, I'm looking at this y two K celebration.
Now I already had been through well what I would
call the Alex Jones psychosis, you know, back in the
nineties with the hit with the Clintons. You know, they're

(13:03):
they're passing legislation in Arkansas to say that any suicide
or any death that looks like a suicide is a suicide,
you know, and then there's all these suicides around the
Clintons and stuff. Waco was a big wake up. I
grew up through Jonestown, you know that I still have
memories of, and then Waco happening. I watched Waco so closely.

(13:25):
I knew everything that had happened. I knew people that
were there, uh and you know, really saw what actually
occurred there. And so that was my first false flag,
if you will. And not to say that they didn't
burn those people to the ground and kill them, but
you know, why and how and when did the ATF
suddenly you know, become a thing. None of us knew

(13:47):
of the ATF then until that moment, and so I woke.
I woke with that, with white with that, and then
started to recognize the magical aspects and the freemasonry and
the esoteric and the occult and this tracking back you know,
to ancient Hebrew, to Kabbala, going back to even Atlantis

(14:08):
being performed in front of us as a y two
k ritual. And so most people were worried about the
computer meltdown. You know, they're like, oh, you know, we're
going to lose everything. I'm like, please, but what I
knew is and what I kept saying to people, but
they're capping the Great Pyramid with gold, and no one
really understood the implications or why this would like, you know,

(14:30):
shock me, and you know, but you know, we know
Novus orders chlorum on the dollar bill and the capstone
coming down to the top of the pyramid is the
work complete. Of course, the capping did not occur. Now,
this was you know here I am. I'm working at
Kansas University at this time, and I'm watching the papers regularly.

(14:51):
You know, there were headlines like Melosovic accuses US of
using harp technologies to cause earthquakes and floods in the
Middle least. That was on the paper in USA today,
you know, and I'm pointing this out to all the
people know I'm meeting along in the university. Anyway, where
was it gonna go? So many things with ych K

(15:13):
that woke me up. But oh the headlines, Okay, so
they're planning to cap the Great pyramidic gold. Suddenly the
headline USA today, if anyone can find this paper I've
said this on nearly every show I've ever been on
December eighteenth, nineteen ninety nine USA Today. Now realize the
USA Today does not database their newspaper like any other paper.

(15:33):
They they're gone. Once they're done, they're gone. You know,
they're not stored in micro fisher in the library in
any way, shape or form. So you got to find
some order. That's nineteen ninety nine stack of USA Today.
December eighteenth, nineteen ninety nine. USA Today. Headline read Muslims
stop the free Naissance from capping the Great Pyramid Gold.
That was the headline. No one noticed. Yeah, So there

(15:59):
I am sitting there at Kansas University, looking at the
University Today, trying to show everybody the importance of this situation.
And then as I followed through the whole y t
K ritual, it was this epic ritual to Lucifer beginning
at the Great Pyramids. We actually this one country in
South Pacific adopted daylight saving time, so they were the

(16:20):
first people to hit y t K and they had
this tiki hut kind of celebration. It was epic. But
I watched the entire across the entire globe, and I
filmed it all. I recorded all on VHS. Yes, my
movies were made on VHS. That's how old they are,
you know. So I got all of this recorded, and
I'm watching as they burnt the river Thames at the

(16:41):
speed of the sun, and they're announcing this as it's occurring,
and they did fireworks over the speed, at the speed
of the sun across the Thames, getting to Heliopolis, getting
to Lucifer, getting to the sun rising, all of that.
They built the Millennialum there next to the Big Bend,
So Big Ben was the old Millennial Dome. The female version.

(17:03):
You always need, you know, a breast and a penis right,
and so they built a Millennial Dome to complete their
their whole symbolism for Y two K. But then they
outdided the eye right the London Eye. The Big Bears
burnt the river sticks. So then we move over into
America and America lights up a light so bright from

(17:26):
the Washington or from I think it was the Lincoln
Memorial that it was witnessed as if the sun was
rising in the west from Europe. That's how bright this
light was, and that was a big part of the celebration.
So they have this sun rising in the west. That's
Horus or you know what. People can also connect to Lucifer. Again,
I'm learly using terms. I mean, I try to be

(17:49):
very specific in terms. So when I say Lucifer, I'm
meaning a whole lot different things than what generally people
think of the term Lucifer, because for them, it's the
light bearer, it's the raising, you know.

Speaker 1 (18:01):
And I've also heard you talk about how they kind
of worship the nine gods of Egypt as well as
part of you know, with their doctrine.

Speaker 2 (18:12):
That's a whole other level. Now you're talking about when
we're getting into the ritual magic, So you could look
at something like the Y two k ritual as a
ritual magical act, but what it's meaning or what it
was really trying to do, because magic's the trip, right,
So all of a sudden, I'm studying magic, and the
idea of magic is transforming your consciousness at will to

(18:33):
make the world manifest what you want. So it's all
about how can you get your brain to think what
it needs to think in order to make something appear
in the real world. And so that was a really
interesting concept for me. And when what happened with the
whole idea of the nine, right, the nine gods known
as the Niad of ancient Egypt. That's Osiris, neftiv isis everybody,

(18:59):
but Horus is in the nine. And now my brain's like, well,
was os IRUs in the nine? But anyway, this would
be using like channeling or that type of psychic communication
with the extraterrest or with these entities whatever they might be,

(19:20):
archetypal forces, And yes there was. The Stargate Conspiracy is
a great book on how they channeled these entities and
got communication. When you start looking into that, you know,
then you find, like Aleister Crowley, you go back to
his communications with a Wass and you look at a
Wass and you see it Gray, you know. And this

(19:42):
is long before we were talking about Grays and forty
seven Crawley's you know, nineteen twenties.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
So yeah, that Lamb he.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Died, and he died right after Roswell. Actually Crawley did.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
It. Wasn't the depiction called Lamb Lamb.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
You're right, You're right. A Wass was who he communicated with.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
And now that's it's funny you brought up as Aleister Crowley.
I wanted to ask you I mean, he is probably
one of the most influential people when it comes to
the you would say, sex, drugs and rock and roll
culture of America. He basically changed everything.

Speaker 2 (20:21):
When you say he called it, he predicted it, you know,
and maybe even magically created it. Might have been the
very manifestation of this very thing. But yeah, sex drugs
and rock and roll. You know, you go straight to
Jack Parsons and NASA jet propulsions laboratories and you got sex,
drugs and rock and roll, you know, And that is

(20:42):
following Croley's way. So without question, they reintroduced Croley heavily
back into our society out about the nineties, re releasing
all of his books through Llewellyn and reintroduced all of
us into a whole known culture that you know, had
been hidden for a long time. Yeah, and those Croley

(21:02):
books were really expensive before until they repressed them all.
So yes, Croley was brought back into our attention. And
these ideas of the Beast, you know, that's what he
called himself, and there was there were concepts that he
brought forward that go through the Kabbala, and the Kabbala
deal with like tarot cards. So then you realize that

(21:25):
this order of magic is sex magic and black magic.
That's the reason they put a K at the end
of magic because K is generally the eleventh letter in
every alphabet, and eleven is the accursed number to magicians.
So Croley intentionally added K to the end of magic
for his style of magic, which was a cursing. He

(21:48):
intentionally said, you know, this is black magic, so we
were going to put a K at the end just
so you know. And Oh, I wanted to go somewhere
with all of that. It's easy to lose. There's so
many trains, right, but yeah, I can't talk.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
About how he started the basic sex, drugs and rock
and roll culture, how he was you know, pivotal.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, yeah, I lost the train that I was going
with that the occursed magic, black magic was the ideas,
oh I was actually leading to Katy Perry at the
super Bowl. So you could see this in my YouTube
videos that we actually predicted what Katy Perry would do
at the Super Bowl. And so there's a group, it's

(22:35):
the Ordo Temple Oriontis. That is the oto that Crowley
helped formulate. He was not their creator, but he came
in and he changed it much like Albert Pike did
the Freemasonry. He came in and made it this whole
other thing, which was the sex magic rituals, getting deeper
and deeper into that. So when when it was getting

(22:57):
ready for Katy Perry, who we look at, there are
certain stars that you look at that are emanating from
this magical spell, and Katy Perry is definitely one of those.
Many Syrus would be another one I would track, you know,
Britney Spears an nacole, and even people like doctor dre
or you know, there's when they're there's a certain level

(23:19):
where you're part of the ritual. And so sure enough said,
look if if if Katy Perry's fitting this scheme, then
she will come out in the Super Bowl dressed as
the horror Babylon, which is in the Croley world, in
the Oto world, riding on the back of a lion

(23:39):
holding a chalice of fire. And I had added into
my prediction that there would probably be diamonds involved, because
diamonds according to Fritz Springmeier and how to create your
own detectable, undetectable mind control slave, How to create your
own Illuminati undetectable mind control slave is the title of

(23:59):
that book, my friend Spring Mariot's epic. He lists how
diamonds are one a sign of a high profile ritual,
goddess or person you know, and also a trigger for
sleeper mind control agents. So that's what the diamond would be.

(24:21):
So it's a presidential model mind control slave and also
to trigger sleepers. And so here comes Katy Perry, and
you know, you can go to timestamp my video and
see that this was said before it happened. She comes
out on a big lion, just like the Horror Babylon.
It's the Strength card, but Croley it's called something else

(24:42):
Lust I think is the lust card and Crowley stick.
And she comes out on that line. That lion's completely
made out of diamonds, and she's wearing a firing fire
chalice dress. So she absolutely depicted the Horror Babylon from
the Oto Dark Magical pres practices right there. On the
Super Bowls, Madonna did the same thing, displaying the mark

(25:05):
of the Beast on stage constantly, which most people don't
know what the mark of the Beast is because they
don't read Satanic works. But if you read satanic works,
then you'll see that the mark of the beast is
the X Men logo, the X Files logo, and so
that's what the mark of the beast, according to Satanists

(25:26):
look like. You know, Christians, it's a chip, but for Satanists,
it's the mark which play plays out quite often.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
And that brings me to what probably is considered some
one of the elite's most powerful tools nowadays is celebrities
and the media. That's what they're using to get to
the youth of America. I mean, that's what the you know,
television is what they've used since television came out for
mind control purposes. But now we have cell phones, now

(25:57):
we have social media, and they're stepping it up to
the next level. Let's talk about that. What do you
see happening now with this new level of mind control
and the new wave of celebrities.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Yes, five g frequencies. You can't trust your own emotions,
self targeted ads that are going to follow you. People
are currently walking into airports and realizing they don't get
tickets anymore, that somehow the airports already have all their
biometrics even though none of us have supplied them, you know,

(26:32):
and then you watch the Boston Dynamics killer robots running around,
the dogs and the at lists doing backflips. You know,
we are at the beginning of every dystopian story ever told, cloning,
and we have Glowing the Dark pets. We have, well
they haven't made them pets yet. I want to get
in that business, well, selling glow in the Dark cats.

(26:55):
You know, what are they going to do with them?
You know, they got Glowing the Dark cats, Glowing the park,
dark kid pigs, camera. You know, it's it's already all
around us. And you can have home crisper kits. Crisper
is technology. It does gene splicing, so you can do
this at home.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
It's It's an amazing but terrifle terrifying time we're living in.
But let's break down a few of these things. Let's
start with you know, television nowadays, I don't know if
you've noticed, but I've noticed that the occult symbolism, they're
not holding back as much anymore. It's more in your
face now. I've noticed a lot more shows like on
Netflix about witchcraft, h and the End of the World.

(27:40):
That's another popular one. So what are some of the
things you're seeing in television, movies, TV shows nowadays?

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Dare we say white genocide. I mean, yes, you see
this in the commercials. You see it everywhere we go.
The white man is, you know, is being erase from things.
And it's a dangerous topic to talk about, to even
mention this, because you know, they're the whole routine that's

(28:11):
being There's never been greater division in especially America than
right now, but across the globe really and this is
all being engineered without question. What do I see with Hollywood, Well,
realize that Disney has always been the media arm of
the military from day one. They don't hide this. You

(28:33):
can go watch Disney on the front Lines and that's
all of their documentaries and military promotional cartoons that they made.
They had, you know, cartoons on how to take out tanks,
you know, the Donald Duck. He got more people to
pay their taxes than anyone ever, any government campaign ever, right,

(28:57):
And they had this one that's called education Him for Death,
and I think you can see that even on YouTube.
And that was the name of the film. And this
was a film that did so well in convincing children
to kill that the Nazis adopted it. And Disney's very
proud of this. If you buy Disney on the front lines,
and you watch it, the narrator is all excited saying,

(29:21):
you know, Joseph Gerbels adopted Walt Disney's techniques for making
such a film and helping create the Nazi youth. And
you know it was Disney and that helped, you know
that the Nazis were following. So let's get that right,
you know. And warn't a bron Braun of course, came
over and came right on Disney. You know, he was
on the Walt Disney Show talking about rockets, you know,

(29:44):
having crazy, wild sex parties.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
I don't even realize.

Speaker 2 (29:48):
That, right, right, No, And now Disney owns everything, right,
They own your Avengers, they own your Star Wars, they
own your sports, they own your porn, they own every thing.
And now there's there's much to do in the conspiracy
realms of people saying that Walt Disney was a thirty
third degree freemason. I'm sure you've heard this, Yeah, definitely,

(30:12):
there's no proof of that, all right, So I hate
to be the negative like trying to battle conspiracy theories
like that, but I would prefer you have proof, you know,
in your conspiracy theories. Now I can prove to you
that Disney Corporation is absolutely free Masonic. But I've been
to the Florida Freemason Lodge. I've checked out Walt Disney's grave,

(30:36):
I've checked out his funeral, I've checked out any Now,
the Mason's people don't realize. They don't hide their memberships.
They don't hide their members especially within their lodges. So
you can go to any lodge, and I highly recommend it.
Go to Philadelphia Lodge. That one's amazing, Benjamin Franklin's Lodge.
And I go to a lodge everywhere I go. I

(30:56):
just want to see them, and they're more than happy
to let you walk in and show you around. So
I've seen Doctor Seuss, I've seen Ray Krock, I've seen
John Wayne, I've seen you know, buzz aldron and John Glenn,
you know, Ronald Reagan, every Prime Minister of Australia. You know,
they don't hide these people. So if Disney was Mason,

(31:19):
they would have a plaque, you know, somewhere that would
be I saw the altar that Roosevelt broke with his
leg brace, you know what I mean. They don't hide
this stuff. And so there is zero evidence to say
that Walt Disney was Mason. His brother was Roy. You
didn't clearly go find that, you know, but what it
was one of the original one hundred, while he was

(31:40):
just after the original hundred Knights of d Malay, which
is the free Masonic boy scounts. But that's not to
say that Disney Co. The Corporation is not free Mason.
When you ride down Thunder Mountain, you will see h A.
Biff's working tools. Only a Mason know what that meant?
That is the person you pretend to be and I
must ritual is Hiram Abef and his working tools are

(32:03):
all part of the ritual. So when you come down
Thunder Mountain and there's a crate there, we have it
on our book Weird Stuff, if you want to see
any of this stuff. I wrote those three books. I
produced them. Jamie wrote most of what was in there,
and then I picked up certain parts. But I did
all the art and work and stuff. That weird stuff, man,
that's a I'm I always had a copy sitting here

(32:25):
because I don't think weird stuff gets around enough. I
know there's a George Bush's helicopter pilot used to leave
copies of weird stuff around the Pentagon. So I'm meaning
out there in certain ways.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
And now you always hear about the celebrity mind control,
and you know, they are the voice of what they
want to get across. Talk a little bit about what
you've researched about what they're doing to these celebrities. You know,
I know many of them come from Disney. You know,

(33:01):
let's talk about that.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Yeah, when you look at these children that suddenly show
up on Disney's door runaways at fourteen and twelve years old,
that they don't turn away, they turn into Mouseketeers. I mean,
you look at Lisa from Facts of Life. That's what
happened to her. She ran away from home twelve years old.
Suddenly she's allowed to be into Mouseketeers. Nobody at Disney's
trying to find her parents and send her home, you know.

(33:24):
So you know Miley Cyrus. The list goes on and
on of Mouseketeers that have come out justin Timberlake. And so, yes,
there is a form of mind control that occurs right
there at the beginning. This was something that I didn't
didn't exactly know what I was getting into when I

(33:45):
first started to study this. And when you start I'm
now great friends with Kathy O'Brien, who was, you know,
the mind control slave of Hillary and Bill George Bush
and yeah, so you start to learn that these people
have no idea, They have no idea that they've been

(34:05):
through this. They have no idea that their mind control victims,
they have no idea that anything has occurred to them.
Everything seems to be erased. But if you just witnessed
recently Brittany leaving the clinic, Oh my god, Yeah, who
would let her walk out in the public like that?
Her hair's everywhere, you know, she's all like staring off

(34:26):
in the space.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Was shown intentionally?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
Yeah, exactly, exactly. You don't you don't let them get
away with it, like, who is the girl I ran
around with the Chiuahua? Paris Hilton wasn't Paris Hilton? Yes,
Paris Hilton got a hold of the Anti Panty Club,
which was you know, Brittany and Man, you know, I've

(34:49):
forgotten all their names now. It's funny, what is her name?
The Redhead?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
I'm not sure those were all early two thousands, uh stars.

Speaker 2 (34:59):
I always think of Maxwell, who says I've forgotten more
than you'll ever know. Her name's right there on the
edge of my tongue, but I can't think of it.
But she got Paris Hilton got ahold of that anti
panty club and started triggering them to do things like
run around without their panties. And these were celebrities, and
so what did they do to Paris? They treated her

(35:19):
like a goya and tossed her in jail for a
few days so that she would be written up and
quit using the mind control slaves as her toys. At
least that's what it appeared to be. But you know,
Anna Nicole was my awakening to that, and I started
watching the the court case over where Anna Nichole's body

(35:40):
would end up. And this was very curious to me, Like,
you know, they had gotten her to Jamaica, and the
laws in Jamaica were very different, especially when it came
to her kids. So then, who was this little Danny
Lynn that was supposed to receive a billion dollars from
this Nazi oil tycoon, the ninety three year old Jay
Howard Marshall and Nicole had been married to, right suddenly

(36:03):
they married her to this ninety three year old Nazi
oil tiger and made fun of how he likes big
breasts and that was their only reasoning for this situation.
But if you look into it, it's quite possible that
little Danny Lynn is not exactly what we think. And

(36:24):
so you start looking into how they've engineered different bloodlines
and keep these things in power and such, and man,
you know what, I have to go review all my
films to try to remember all the minutia of how
that all played out, because I don't want to get
the facts wrong. But I'll have to sit here and
think on the air for a minute of how Danny Lynn.

(36:49):
Oh Okay. There were many people claiming to be the
father of Ann cole estape. Many said that, well, we
you know, we have these second spartise, these sex rituals,
and nobody remembers. Well, one that was specific was Prince
Frederick von Onholt, and he came forward. I got videotape

(37:10):
on my Anna Nicole Brittany and mind control film of
him saying, you know, it was one of those nights
nobody really knows what happens in with orgy and you know,
I'm the father of Anna Nicole's baby. And well you
start digging into Prince Frederick von Onholt and you learn
very quickly without any confiscation. No, hidn't that. He keeps

(37:34):
Jajahabor locked up in his house in a padlock. Now
you talk about early Hollywood mind controls, victims and things
of that nature. They can't let this get out. So
once you break, once you hit like thirty and you
start to break your mind control, they do something to
eradicate you. You know, the twenty eight club and all
of that, or twenty nine club. They need to get
rid of you and Jaja Khabor. You can look this up,

(37:57):
is held inside of this mansion by Prince Frederick Vonahlt,
her husband who keeps her locked up in the room
in a padlock. Prince Frederick von Onhalt seems to be
a boy from Brazil. So way back in the day
when Hitler was looking towards his transhumanist future, he saved
a bunch of seamen in order to make the boys

(38:17):
from Brazil, which would be Adolf Hitler's children. Well, it's
said that Prince Frederick von Onenhalt is one of those
that they actually impregnated Gretel broun Eva Braun's sister who
was the sister of Hitler's actual wife right and produced
Prince Frederick von Onhalt, So he's actually Hitler's child. And

(38:40):
then if he impregnated Anna Nicole like he claims, then
Danny Lynn is Hitler's granddaughter that's been now given a
billion dollars by a Nazi oil tycoon. Right, do the math,
you know. So the whole thing about battling over where
to keep the body and where to keep the people
was that whoever kept Danny Lynn in Jamaica then got

(39:01):
to keep everything because in Jamaica, you know, possessions nine
tenths of the law. In America, if they could get
to any Lynn back then, so Howard Stern would keep
her in Jamaica and the guy who claimed to be
her father get to keep her in America. So that
was the whole battle of how to keep her from

(39:22):
So that's what was going on with the animical death story.
And you know, I don't know I'm putting pieces together there,
but yet their pieces are there, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's definitely crazy stuff. And one thing I noticed
now with the modern celebrities is that they go they
go through a transformation, like they show you through their
music videos. They start out innocent and you know, Eventually
they get more graphic and the videos get more raunchy,

(39:53):
until they're finally just you know, making porn basically for
their videos. Is this something that you've noticed and is
there some sort of like ritualistic reason behind this.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, it's mostly for the destruction of society. You know,
it's social engineering to bring about these type of insulent
children that are you know, what we call the millennials
are even worse. I mean today, Oh my god, it's crazy.
But yeah, Miley Cyrus would be a classic example of that.
She was Hannah Montana. Disney show, loved all the children.
Everybody loved Hannah Montana. There were we did a Hannah

(40:27):
Montana film where we went through every store and we
went for a year and filmed in every single store
from hardware stores to any story you could think of.
And we found a Hannah Montana product in every single store,
if not hundreds, like you know, entire isles of Hannah
Montana and the isles of Walmart and and you know

(40:49):
Target and such. And we made this crazy film, you know,
I called it Miley Cyrus Exposed. But so yeah, there's
Miley Cyrus, Hannah Montana, you know, constantly shown in a
pallis position with her microphone on all the boxes and
stuff sold to all the children. Then she comes back
as Miley Cyrus and she's finally making her presentation to
the world as herself. What's her first video? She comes

(41:12):
out as a black angel with black wings and she's
in a cage, and the whole song is, you can't
tame this, you can't stop this, you can't change me,
And so all the little girls are singing this. You
know you can't change me. I'm going to do what
I want to do. You can't stop me. I'm in
control of everything, and that's the type of mentality that
they're building. Then you go over to Katy Perry and

(41:34):
she starts coming out with like et and I made
a video on this and my Aliens from Hell presentation
ET is, let me be your victim, fill me with
your poison. I want to have your supernatural extraterrestrial baby,
which is the next layer of this puzzle, as we
start to get into supernatural communication with extraterrestrials and having

(41:59):
you know, inky best sucubus having babies with our children,
that's what little girls are singing to. With Katie Perry,
you know, fill me with your poison, inject me with
your you know, it's crazy. So, yes, that is. It's
it's social engineering on one main level, and it's also
ritual magic on another. You know, they two kind of

(42:19):
play together.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
And that also kind of ties in with the transhumanism
movement as well. I mean, we have people trying to
get rights to basically become animals or inanimate objects. You know,
it's getting ridiculous now. The links that people are being
allowed to go to to do this.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, gender, I mean the whole how many
genders are there now? I've lost count And yeah, this
has all been you know, a big plan to destabilize
the social core, the family core, and to always distract
you from your true through powers which lie within synchronicity, communication,

(43:04):
making connections and bonds with other people. That that whole
thing has been lost. I mean, especially with the World
Wide Web and social media now it's ego. You know,
over and over again, it's just ego and can I
outdo this and I outdo that? And it's all just
about destroying the central core. You know, It's been a

(43:25):
long plan from the Frankfurt Plan in our schools and
all of that just to bring about the dissolution of
the family core and having nothing that you can believe in.
I actually consider heavy metal and Christianity on the same level.
It's funny that they're battling one another, but if the
Christians would recognize that they're also there's metal gate. That's

(43:47):
what we call it in the Destruction of heavy metal,
because heavy metal inspires people to feel sovereign. And there's
been tests done on people listening to heavy metal. They
don't get aggressive or angry. They feel empowered. And it's
same with Christianity and you go into your church, you know,
and so there's a there's a Christian gate, and there's
a metal gate, and the Christians will never realize that

(44:08):
they're on the same plane as heavy metal and trying
to save the world, right.

Speaker 1 (44:14):
And I also see a suppression of consciousness basically that
they don't want us exploring the powers of our consciousness.
And you know, especially with the advent of AI, they
want to integrate us with computer systems. They want us
to lose basically what we are as humans.

Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, without question, and when you start to look into
the early days of transhumanism, I mean I learned it
from occultist. They were the first ones going. I can't
wait to jack in, you know. And I just talked
to physicist doctor Richard Alan Miller, who was talking about
how really when you look at a computer, it really
is a magic spell. You know. Well actually that was

(44:58):
someone else, but just that whole idea that you can
engineer a ritual, a grimoire and then set it into
motion inside of the computer. It's very much like a
ritual spell. But yeah, we've definitely there's this whole point
of engineering children that have no parents, that have no

(45:20):
ties to anything. So that and then the consciousness. Yes,
they don't want you seeking out synchronicity. They don't want
you like I was a nomad, right, so at sixteen
years old, I became a beach bomb. I just was
not built for the real world and I couldn't do
it right. So I just went and lived in my

(45:43):
car at the beach. You know. I didn't think about it,
I didn't question it, and in the same way, I
jumped in a van and just started traveling across the country,
never guessed, never questioned, didn't even know where I was going,
and didn't know how to take care of myself or anything.
And when people ask me after i'd return after a
year or summer or something, however long I was gone,

(46:03):
like well, how did you get gas? How did you
get food? Where'd you sleep? And it wasn't until I
was asked that I ever even thought of those things.
It's just every day there was something new and it
led me to something, and I got fed, and I
did this, and I did that, and I did more
than anyone I know. You know, I've probably lived three
or four lifetimes already compared to what most people go

(46:24):
through in their lives, because I was a nomad for
so long, so I quickly learned that there was a
higher power in my universe that was guiding me. And
you know, it just the amount of miracles that happened,
the amount of times that something came where you're like,
how could that be? It was just so many. You know,

(46:46):
they sound simple when you tell somebody while we were
sitting at this restaurant, we needed money, and somebody came
and gave my friend a letter and it had money
in it. And then we were moving and we were
trying to get to this place. Now we had a
little bit of and somebody else showed up and said hey,
I need a ride, and we're like yeah, but we
got to go here, and they said, well that's where
I'm going, you know, And so things would just fall

(47:08):
into light, you know, and there's no way you could
have planned it, no way you could have. And so
that as I traveled for twenty twenty five years, you know,
that started to close. The iron fist was closing. The
places where I was free to hang out were no longer.
Like in Boulder, Colorado, they started putting up fences all over.

(47:31):
You couldn't walk down the street with a dog anymore.
Little things that would just inhibit the free people from
traveling around. Backpacks not allowed, you know, fences on around
the lawns, people putting spikes on chairs and stuff, you know,
and we were slowly I was squeezed into the real world.
I didn't want to be here. And then I got

(47:53):
the TV show, which you know I did for free
for years, you know, I never I didn't charge for
anything for decade. So I was still living on couches
the whole damn time. But you know, this works, and
this is something they don't want people to figure out.
I run around saying, quit your job, save the world,
and people don't really get the gist of what I'm

(48:14):
saying because they think that we have to think out
every system in order to project ourselves into the future.
And I'm saying no, Actually, there's a cosmic guide guidance
that will lead you forward if you allow it. And
if you go, you got to go. You got to
go meet the people, you got to talk. You know.
Friendship was my currency, is what I would say. But

(48:36):
everything couldn't have gone better, Like if I had tried
to plan it, it would have never worked. Right.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
They definitely want you plugged in and not you know,
free to explore your own consciousness and do what you
want to do. Now. One of the other things I
want to talk about is something you've done a lot
of research on. Is corporate logos being used as sigils

(49:02):
or you know, magical symbols. Where does that come from
and what are they using them for?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Actually, my work cut adopted, fantasized and sensationalized. My work
on corporate logos would be a lot more boring to
most people. And as a matter of fact, I had
to update my work and call it Illuminati corporate logos
because that's what people will google but what I witnessed

(49:31):
from signs and symbols around me were secret signs of Freemasons.
So it was no shock to me when Starbucks became
the most popular coffee because of their Masonic logo, and
so the it wasn't see if you go to my work,
if you go to freemantv dot com and you look up,

(49:52):
and I'm telling you I created this concept, right, it
didn't exist. Dan Brown didn't exist, you know, before I
had my TV show out before, or the Vinci Code
ever this, you know, So it's easy now for people
to act like they know everything about Freemasonry at this point,
which they don't. You know. You go to my photography section,
You'll see I've been to every Mason lodge there is,

(50:13):
you know, all of the big ones for sure, and
a lot of the little ones and all of the
other esoteric lodges. So I'm out doing my homework, is
what I'm saying. And I saw David Ike he took
my artwork on corporate logos in one of his very
first talks and put that big old Illuminati eye stuck
on it. And I was furious, I mean, I was

(50:34):
excited that I saw my work on David Ike's lecture,
not that he knew of me or my work or anything,
but then he had defiled it by putting this big
I in the pyramid with an eye in it, saying
Illuminati corporate logos. And I had to change how I
said things in order to interest people and get them
to come look at the real data, because point to

(50:56):
the Illuminati for me, and if you can find the
ILLUMINAI using an eye in a pyramid symbolism, I want
to know about it, because I can't find it.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
So much disinformation about the just the word illuminati, well exactly,
it became a catch all term.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
You see, so all of a sudden, and I think
it's probably David Ike and they You know, you don't
think about those sort of things when you're doing it.
Like when David Ike would give a lecture about the Illuminati,
he means, you know, the bloodlines. Or if you were
listening to Myron Fagan and he was talking about the Illuminati,
he was talking about the actual Illuminati, the Bavarian Illuminati,
and he was relating it to the Council on Foreign Relations.

(51:34):
So if you go to Myron Fagan, then that's the Illuminati,
which would be more sense, Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission,
all of those guys, the social engineers, right. But then
this term Illuminati took on this whole other connotation of
these wizards that are at high and can control everything
from you know, their magical puppet strings, when initially logos

(51:56):
that you see aren't magic spells. Even if there's a
pentagram on tech, which took me forever to find a
picture of, you know, there were no Google images back then. Either.
I had to drive around and take pictures or film
the corporate logos in order. And I was in Texas.
I thought I'd find a Texaco, no problem to get
a pentagram out there and show you what I was
talking about. But man, I couldn't find anyway. So what

(52:20):
you see and what I saw was after a deep
study into Freemasonry, because my dad being one made me
very interested. I read morals and dogma, I read all
of the Masonic works. I know every ritual, I know
every aspect of it. I even translate their coded books
because I love to do things like that. You know,
figure out the code, figure out but you can't figure
out their code unless you know the ritual. You know,

(52:42):
if you know what's happening with the worshipful Master and
the warden, then you can fill in the code, you know.
So I have coded books for my dad of Eastern
Mediterranean past rituals and all these other rituals that are
you know, not known to the general public. Well, you know,
now you can get these rituals online. You can go
look at free Mason rituals and you'll find it online.

(53:03):
Very small. Most of them come from this book called
Maha Bone, which I own. It's actually sitting right up there.
Maha Bone is the most secret word of a Freemason.
So what had happened is you take a secret society
who doesn't really have any interest in magic per se, now,
which the Freemasons, they don't care you know. My dad's like,

(53:26):
I'm like, did you read this Morals and Dogma? And
you're like, I'll read any of that cobblely book. You know,
they don't care about that. They're in the Masons to
get the good gigs, you know, to do high You know,
you're not going to get a top secret clearance generally
if you're not already a part of the brotherhood. You know, right,
you're not gonna be on Killer One, Jim Carter and stuff.
I mean, like my dad. So the Freemasons aren't as

(53:50):
intriguing as people wish they were. Now sure enough up
on other levels. But then there's you know, there's different
orders within Freemason ray so and then you got all that.
Then if you went to an Oteo lodge where they're
having a sex orgy ritual, you'll find many Masons in there,
you know, because a lot of Masons are interested in magic,
but they'll never admit it in the Mason lodge. But

(54:11):
in the Oteo lodge, they'll say, yeah, I'm a Mason.
You know, they'll admit it during the sex ritual, but
they won't admit it that you know that they've been
to the sex ritual when they're around the brethren. And
so most Freemasonry is, you know, this idea of generosity
and charity and take care of others. And if you
read Morals and Dogma, it never once says that Lucifer's God.
That's another thing people say all the damn time. Obviously,

(54:34):
never read Morals and Dogma because it doesn't say that anywhere.
It does say a strange name to give to the
being of light. That's all it says, that's the only
mention of Lucifer and morals and dogma, and not saying
they're not Luciferians. I'm just saying, get effect straight, you
know what I mean. They're not called the Illuminati, They're
called the Freemasons. They're not worshiping Lucifer and morals and dogma.

(54:57):
But they probably will tell you that they do worship Lucifer.
When they say Lucifer, they mean Prometheus, you know what
I mean. They don't mean Satan or the devil, and
so you know it's you can language, right. So anyway,
corporate logos, when you're looking at them, you're seeing Masonic
signs of allegiance, so that one corporation could recognize another

(55:19):
and then they get raised up, you know. So it's
the whole wink and nod. So Texaco and Shell, there's
a classic example that's Venus. The pentagram is a symbol
of Venus, and then it has the tau cross for
the Texico, which is the magical religious and part of it.
And then a shell for shell is another sign of Venus,

(55:40):
and Venus is our goddess or their goddess, which again
is Lucifer. In the dictionary. If you look up Lucifer
in the dictionary, you'll see it's Venus. But that's our
goddess Columbia, and she's often depicted like in Austin, Texas.
Now this where it gets really weird. So in Austin,
Texas there's a depiction of our us Columbia. People know

(56:02):
that our capital is the District of Columbia. But it
seems I was the only person to ask, well, who
is Columbia? So I made an entire film about that,
and it turns out that it really relates back to Lucifer,
but Lucifer as Venus. And if you get to the
clock tower where Charles Whitman, the mind controlled military sniper

(56:22):
shot everybody from the Texas Tower on you tee. Now
that tower, that's right where Aleister Crowley's handwritten work of
the Book of the Law is housed. So why is
that there? Right? So the handwritten works of that were
channeled from the Pyramids that got Crowley to write the

(56:42):
Book of the Law is right there at the ut Tower.
And then there's this giant well, then there's George Washington
as a mason, and then there's this beautiful Columbia with
her wings spread on a boat being drawn forth by
Merman fish beings like aquaman, you know. And to her

(57:05):
right you'll see a shell tour left you'll see a pentagram.
And then directly in front of her as the capital
Dome of Austin, and on top of the capital dome
is another goddess who looks just like Samiramis from the
ancient Sumerian Samiramis. I mean they say that they made
the goddess on top of the capital of Austin look
weird so that she would look normal from the ground.

(57:27):
So when you look at her face, it look normal.
But that's not true. You can't even see her face
for one. But if you hold up a picture of
the goddess on the Capital Dome of Austin, Texas holding
a pentagram again, uh, then you and put Samaramis up,
you'll see it's it's Samerian goddess that they have on
top of the Austin, Texas. So now what you have

(57:48):
is an obelisk, a dome, and a pentagram right with
the goddess who represents Isis. All of these together are
symbols from ancient Egypt of Sirius. And then you find
that the Freemasons worship serious and all of a sudden,
that pentagram takes on a whole another meaning because within
Freemasonry the pentagram is known as the blazing Star, which

(58:11):
is serious. So now you find an extraterrestrial connection that
these brethren actually are all worshiping this star serious, and
our goddess Columbia isis Lucifer all relate to that same story.
Very interesting, Yeah, still interesting, but not as exciting for
people as this illuminati.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Well right, but I mean you I'd rather hear what
the real story is rather than this sensationalized BS that
they're putting out, you know, absolutely. Now we've got a
few minutes left. For the last few minutes, I'd like
to talk about some of the just events going on
right now that are unbelievably strange. I don't do politics.

(58:52):
I think every president is just a puppet, but Trump is.
It's very strange times with him. Some of the things
that's going on around this presidency. We've got the Space
Force that alone is.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
Just blowing my mind, which I predicted, and.

Speaker 1 (59:12):
All these other things that are happening with just him
kind of pushing the envelope on just things that are
being said, and it seems like agendas are being pushed
in a certain way so that things will happen during
the next election. What are your thoughts on everything going
on right now? And with the censorship that's going on,

(59:34):
it looks like they're trying to take down any platform
we have. What do you see happening from now in
the next five ten years.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Well, I gotta say I love the Joe Biden molestation memes.
They're hilarious. Even Donald Trump is tweeting these. And I
just recently saw that JFK called Joe Biden a trader.
I don't know, I have to look deeper into that,
but I saw it in a letter from JFK. Okay,

(01:00:03):
So this is what I saw, and this was what
kind of triggered me right from the get go. When
when Bill Clinton was brought into the World Court, that's
what I call it, they put him on television about
having extramarital affair with his secretary Monica Lewinsky. Okay, step A,

(01:00:23):
you do not diminish your president in front of the world, right,
this is just not something you do. You'd think JFK
didn't have affairs. You think that all the presidents didn't
have hookers and affairs. You know, you don't promote that.
So when I saw Bill Clinton turning purple in front
of the world as they mentioned insertionings of cigars into
his secretary, and I knew that this was an act

(01:00:44):
of social engineering. And this triggered me right then to say, okay,
I actually basically predicted nine to eleven at that moment. Now,
I expected nine to eleven to occur during the Bill
Clinton era. So I was waiting for it every October,
you know, waiting to that time, waiting to see if
something would come up. And I talked about it for years.
You know, I have witnesses. This is you know, everything

(01:01:07):
I say, you can go check out and back up everything,
you know. So I'm watching them take Bill Clinton down
and I'm thinking, okay, where would they go with this?
This is my mind how I would do it. So,
if they're going to destroy the man which they brought
out to the public as our first president, that was
kind of a dude, right, He's playing a saxophone on

(01:01:29):
Jay Lenno or whatever he was on what was that,
I can't remember, but you know, they got him on
TV being a dude, being all of that. Okay, So
they take that man down, and they bring him down
for an extra marital affair, something nobody really cares about
at all. Hillary's a cold bitch man, you know whatever. Yeah,
he's getting a little on the side with the secretary.
Who cares. But you don't diminish your president. So why

(01:01:50):
are they doing this? So they're going to diminish the man.
So I said, all right, the next thing to happen
is they're going to force the president in office. And
then I hear the rumblings of this W. And now,
as a kabalistic researcher, I knew W was the sign
and symbol of the fallen angels. That's what W stands for.
And that's also six and six because in Hebrew six

(01:02:10):
is V, So W w' is really a double day. Right,
it's a double V, not a W. But anyway, so
it's a double six sixty six. It's the mark of
the fallen angels. So when I heard this W horizon,
I said, okay, W is going to be forced into
office and they'll make it obvious. So sure enough, he
was forced into obvious. They blamed it all in on
Jeb Bush and everybody believed the story, right, but this

(01:02:34):
diminished the idea of elections in voter fraud, right, And
so then the next thing, I said, all right, so
now they need an ineligible president, someone who violates the Constitution.
And sure enough, Barack Obama comes to play, and the
birth movement starts and they have this orally Taits heading it,

(01:02:54):
and she can't even speak English. Obviously they didn't want
anyone to really take off on this. But you know,
the birth certificate was known by everybody, right, like the
per certificate was a fraud. This was intentional. Of course,
I personally believe Obama was created in a cloning lab,
but that's a different story. So the social engineering was

(01:03:16):
to destroy the man, then destroy the system, and then
destroy the constitution. So now we're up the Barack Obama.
So now I have what I call the honey Booboo effect,
which is making the rest of the world see America
as a bunch of dumb rednecks that just want to
kill anybody, and so that we are easily attacked by
foreign forces. No one will care, right, It's part of

(01:03:37):
the world scheme to make us look like honey Booboo
to the rest of the world. So President Trump was
a perfect honey booboo candidate, you know, like no one
respects the guy and no one's going to take any
you know, we're at the bottom of the barrel scrape
and this president up into our scene. But at the
same time, I feel like he's kind of a chaos trigger.

(01:03:58):
But so for me, this was the plan from Bill
Clinton on forward to the destruction of Americica to go
to the global system. And then it's been a question
of would they keep a semblance of our electional elections
and having presidents or would we just go ahead and
open it straight to the UN And so that's something

(01:04:19):
I'm still watching. But we're seeing this form. Kazakhstan is
a place that very few people ever look at, but
look at Astana. And when you see my film called
New World Capitals, you'll see that Astana and other of
these pre planned cities are set up as ancient sigils
of magic. Now you're getting into that with the Seals

(01:04:39):
of Solomon that are being used as plans, just like
DC had the pentagrams and all of that in the
street plans. The new planned cities like Astana. Astana houses
the World Religion, which is housed in the Pyramid of Peace,
and this is this futuristic world in Astana. In Kazakhstan,
we're all the rockets are being launched like America hardly

(01:05:02):
launches it all elon musk and the space you know,
SpaceX they're doing all the launching. But you know what
do you see from NASA right the Kazakhstan they're launching
to the International Space Station all the time. They are
the main focus of the rockets. So we witnessed as
NASA fel and I watched this happen just to bring
this into the Space Force and all of this. I

(01:05:24):
knew NASA was going down when they started the ARES program,
and they started also then training the NASA astronauts on
the SpaceX Dragon capsules. So the NASA astronauts were being
led over to the public sector and being in that
and the NASA program was going more military with the
ARES program, and so it wasn't much to guess that

(01:05:46):
they were going to end the whole Columbia Endeavor for
the Discovery of Atlantis, which was our space Shuttle system,
and bring about the new Space Force. And sure enough, hey,
check this out, I got the first ever minted Space

(01:06:07):
Force coin, oh nicety one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:11):
Trump all right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
So that's a minted Space Force coin at the Space
Force over the White House, and that came from Donald
Trump Collectibles. I had to have it. I had to
have it. Yeah, definitely, it's a solid piece of metal.
But okay, so that leads us to our future of
you know, gatica, where like we started saying that people

(01:06:37):
are walking into airports and recognite realizing that they don't
need tickets, and all of a sudden, all their biometrics
are known by the airports and they never supplied that
information in the first place, you know. So we're there,
We're already in the prison of this social engineered system
of the Beast, which is once you know, like Elon
Musk said, you know, if we let Ai go, then

(01:06:59):
you're creating your own immortal, demonic dictator, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:07:04):
And what are some of the things we can do
as individuals, if anything, to kind of combat this so
we can have a future.

Speaker 2 (01:07:16):
Well, I definitely recommend just okay, so first of all,
I've never given any of my information to create fear.
My information has always been to create freedom. And so
once you know that this plan is going on, once
you know there are dark magicians in this and once
you know they're social Engineering's council and form relation tried
lateral commercial people like Hillary Clinton, you know, then then

(01:07:41):
you have an excuse to walk away. You know, well
why not. You don't serve the system. It doesn't serve you.
So the whole purpose of me bringing this to the
surface was tell you that you could quit. And I
recommend taking a sojourn, taking a journey. I every spring,
I just get in my vain and I go, I
don't know where I'm going. I've driven one hundred miles

(01:08:03):
and said, oh, oh, I know where I'm going. Uh,
you know, I don't. And you need to go out.
And but it's it's a real trial, you know. It's
something that you have to make friends, you have to
be an open person. You have to challenge yourself with it.
But you never know what will occur and how wonderful
will it be. So I say go out, and if
you need a guide, then read the Cilostine Prophecies by

(01:08:26):
James Redfield, because that book was came out a few
years after I started my travels, and after I read it,
I said, Okay, that's what I'm doing. Like it defined
it for me like this is how I actually operate.
I didn't have a book like this, but now that
I read it, I see this is what I'm doing
and it works. And when I met James Redfield, I

(01:08:46):
asked him about it and he said, well, I was
just taking what was going on in psychology now and
I wrote a story out of it as our new
understanding of psychology, and sure enough synchronates. The is the key,
the only way out. There's no way to battle the
You can't do it. If you're in opposition, you can't win.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
Very well said, and Freeman, I want to thank you
so much again for coming on tonight. That was excellent
information and I'm definitely gonna have to have you back
on again.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it. Yeah, and get
everybody over to freemantv dot com to dig deep. You know,
fifteen years of stuff, seven DVDs, three books, lectures galore,
there's whole conferences on my website for you to dig in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:29):
Definitely, I'm going to leave the link to all of
that in the description. And once again, thank you so much,
and you have a great night.

Speaker 2 (01:09:36):
You too, We'll see you next time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:38):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show, Carrie Cassidy.
She's a filmmaker, investigative journalist, and well known talk show
host of Project Camelot and Projectcamelot TV. She's considered a
leader in the alternative media sector. Travels the world conducting
interviews and documenting the testimony of whistleblowers with above top
secret clearances, as well as author researchers and experiencers covering conspiracies,

(01:10:04):
the secret Space program, black projects, ets, ascension, free energy,
and so much more. Kerrie, welcome back, and how are
you doing today.

Speaker 3 (01:10:14):
I'm good, Actually a little disorganized, but that's part for the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Course, no worries. I've been looking forward to it because
I've actually taken a break from this for the past
few days. I've given myself a little vacation. I haven't
even really been paying attention to the alternative news sources
that I usually do, because honestly, I was burning myself
out with everything. But tonight I'm back and I have

(01:10:41):
you here. I've been looking forward to it because hopefully
you can give us some important updates. I've seen quite
a few of your shows lately, your updates and your
interviews with some various whistleblowers, and I know you have
some very important insights that you could share with us
that could you know what could possibly be going on

(01:11:02):
behind the scenes. I believe that they're very powerful forces
behind this, and they have very dark plans for humanity.
But I also believe at the same time we're experiencing
a massive awakening and ultimately it will be up to
us to I guess you could say, change our timeline. So, Carrie, tonight,

(01:11:25):
I'd like to start out with just as brief a
synopsis as you can of your thoughts of the bigger
picture of what the hell is going on on our
planet right now.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Well, it's definitely a war of worlds, and it's been
a world war of worlds for a while, so it's
not so very different in that respect, although I think
what you might say is that we have sort of
new kids on the block, and they've been around, but
they have banded together and they're taking a real run

(01:12:03):
at changing the paradigm here on the planet with humanity's help.
So that involves Trump, you and that team, and we
have obviously a global lockdown. That whole thing is orchestrated
by the customary powers that be the Illuminati and their

(01:12:25):
et cohorts, so to speak, behind the scenes, and that's
maybe a more intricate story, and I can get into
that if you need me too. And so what we
have are there are starting to be two real clear
sides in this war, and I think maybe there are

(01:12:45):
people out there that don't really realize that that there
is actually a good side and that you can actually
support the good side now if things change, and you know,
I mean there's always a good side in the sense
that humanity is the good side and keeping us alive
and keeping this human experiment going on planet Earth, if

(01:13:06):
you want to call us that, and allowing us to
develop in our own way and in our own pace.
But you know, it's very involved, and the bottom line
is that there are two two main sides, and of
course the Illuminati, and there are various factions as well

(01:13:26):
as the top wealthy on the planet and the various
agenda items that they're trying to roll out, and it
does look like they're escalating their game. They've been wanting
to roll these things out for many years. In fact,
Project Camelot was told really fifteen years ago when we

(01:13:46):
started by certain key witnesses that this was the agenda
that they plan to do viruses to eliminate population, for example,
And of course we never dreamed or I never dreamed
that they do something like lock us into our houses
type of thing that is like above and beyond just

(01:14:07):
releasing a virus, and also the fake news side of it,
the fact that not as many people are dying as
they say, the fact that they're not dying of really
COVID at all, and they're dying of underlying causes, etc.
And that doctors and hospitals are being paid to put
actually on the death certificate COVID so that this spikes

(01:14:32):
up the numbers, of course, and allows them to continue
the lockdown if they so desire. The difference is, of
course that people are no longer standing for it, and
these violations of our bills of rights. Bill of rights
have been going on since well actually even before nine eleven,

(01:14:53):
but nine to eleven really kickstarted that sort of at
least in the United States, that scenario, and they've been
building on that ever since. And this is their next
major milestone. I think you might call it along that way,
but it does look like they're getting good pushed back.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
So now answer, yes, yes, very good answer. Now. I
don't know if they just didn't account for it or
if it was built into the plan, but there's this
major awakening that was already occurring before this happened, and
this seemed to have given it like a super boost.
And people are just waking up to bullshit left and right.

(01:15:32):
And that's the promising thing that I see about this.
It doesn't seem to be going as planned for them.
It seems like they had a certain route that they
wanted to go, so now they have to inflate these numbers,
they have to do all these other things to keep
people in the dark as to what's really going on.

(01:15:52):
But because it's not going as planned, it makes me
kind of fear that they're gonna step it up a
notch and we're to have maybe plandemic part two or
something else down the pipeline so that they can continue
because people are starting to resist right now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Definitely, Well, I'm not so sure they're going to be
able to or be successful at stepping it up, but
there are some indicators out there. There's some I don't
know if if you want to call it fake news,
it sounds like fake news, but it may actually have
some things behind it. We know that the virus is mutating,

(01:16:31):
and we know that actually, if you really want to
get down to it, it may not even be a virus.
It is a bioweapon. That much is clear. And if
you don't know that already, then you need to do
your homework. And I put out a terrific amount of
stuff over the last two months. I'm working harder than

(01:16:54):
ever just to keep up with the flow of information,
which is quite amazing. And there's a lot of on
the ground, you know, people doing on the ground research
and also going to hospitals, taking their camera to demonstrations,
et cetera. So we have these things documented, and that's

(01:17:15):
that's really the good news. Normally I deal with whistleblowers
from above top secret as my primary or key witnesses,
and that's a lot more quiet. It's a lot you know,
when I'm dealing with the information is a matter of
compiling and getting it out there. Now I'm actually having
to run to catch up every day with the onslaught

(01:17:38):
of information coming both from the left and the right,
if you want to call it that, the good and
the bad, and the fake news as well. We through
all of that. So to answer your question. They are
saying right now that they're going to try to roll
out some new rendition on the virus. In other words,
the lockdown is basically, think thank God and maybe Trump

(01:18:03):
for trying to reopen our country at least, and maybe
other countries in Europe are following suit. I don't know
for sure, but it's slow. And I just saw I
think it was a tweet from the San Francisco mayor
saying he'd love to open the restaurants, so you know there,

(01:18:25):
and that's understandable, and I think everyone would love the
restaurants to be open. And I think there's a lot
of a lot of disinfo because, for example, what they
did was they not only locked people down, made their
paranoid based everything on you know, w H JOE that

(01:18:47):
is run and financed by Gates and and Fauci and
certain other nefarious parties, and they basically, you know, got
everyone into a paranoid state to where they thought it
was number one, contagious and number two you caught it
from other humans specifically, and there are some very good

(01:19:08):
videos out now that support the idea that it is
not contagious. And Judy Mikowitz I think is how you
say her last name. Has done a number of interviews
explaining and she is someone a doctor who has quite
an extensive background dealing first with the age so called
virus and then with this one, and also that the

(01:19:31):
idea that people don't understand viruses. I interviewed doctor Robert Young,
who has groundbreaking research in this area, and there are
other doctors as well, saying that as a matter of fact,
viruses are our friends that we need, you know, this
idea of the herd sort of mentality where we have

(01:19:53):
to be out there, we need to be interacting, and
that anything negative will eventually get sort of washed doubt
from our populations naturally. And yes, the weaker members will
encounter these these obstacles, but they have there are ways
to overcome them. The trouble is that they're not even

(01:20:16):
giving the right and there are nurses out there and
doctors testifying to the fact on YouTube that they're not
giving the right remedies for the for what is in
essence the symptoms, and therefore they're giving ventilators to people
that don't need ventilators, and they're they're doing all sorts
of things when very stunning video recently I saw was

(01:20:39):
with a nurse who was talking about how basically maybe
even what well meaning people that are working in these
hospitals are are killing patients right and left because number one,
they don't know how to deal with ventilators, and they
also are giving ventilators to people that need oxygen in
their blood but you can't get it the way they're

(01:21:00):
trying to give it to them, and and so on.
So it's a huge mess. But at the same time,
it's very I think, uplifting when you people actually hitting
the streets and standing up for our rights and and
I could say that going on the internet is just

(01:21:23):
as valid actually and awakening each other and our friends
and family. And if my own experience is any indication,
and this is quite radical because now my sister, who
basically ignored what I do for my entire life, now
suddenly wants to talk to me again about what I

(01:21:46):
do and what it is. I know that's going to
be amazing for people to hear, but this is the
way it is. I mean, we have friends and family
that just don't research. They follow the mainstream paradigm paranoida uh.
And they also trust their government, and government has been

(01:22:06):
really in the back pocket, if you will, of the
powers that be up to this point, especially since the
death of John F. Kennedy, and the hopeful sign with
with Trump is that he is supposedly working with John F.
Kennedy Junior, who is said to not have died but

(01:22:27):
have staged his own death, and to be possibly coming
forward in July. Now that's the word from Q. Whether
it happens or not, well, we're still going to wait,
and the jury is still out on that. But there
is enough indication that indictments have been put through. I've
got secret background proof of that. So there are plans,

(01:22:51):
and of course the latest coming out with the General
Flynn is an indication and further indication and the FBI,
and I believe the members of the FBI are being
charged with various things, which probably should include treason, but
I don't know that they do so at any rate.

(01:23:13):
This is kind of what's going on, and so I'm
not so sure that they are push even with the
mutating virus. Again, these tactics of locking us in our houses,
by the way, keeping us off beaches, and not allowing
us to go into nature. Nature is one of the
most healing things a human can do, and thinking that

(01:23:36):
we are somehow too close to people in nature, when
in fact you can go out in nature and be
completely isolated from other people. But all of this is overlooked,
and even in California, which has a tremendous amount of nature.
You know, Californians basically live outdoors really eighty percent of

(01:23:59):
the time because we have such great weather normally. So
this is these are there are underlying very suspicious circumstances.

Speaker 2 (01:24:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Closing down the economy is actually part and parcel of
the rollout of a new digital currency, a chip that
will be embedded in they hope, I guess in the vaccines,
and it's probably already come in through what we call
the chem trails and the nano and chem trails, by
the way, and I have this, I mean, my information

(01:24:31):
comes from secret sources as well as of course I
have to basically get everything out there that's coming in
through the various news outlets, both alternative and main and
so on. So when I put the package together, I
get substantiation over and over again at certain points. One

(01:24:53):
of those points has to do with a whistleblower that
talked to me about their problem with population. How they
want to eliminate the population and how they plan to
do so. And one of these things does involve the
fact that they want people to go onto like a
government stipend. I don't know, some people call it a

(01:25:16):
creditystem whatever it is, where they don't go to work.
They actually are dependent on the government. And this is
all about incapacitating people, getting them not to be so
active and involved in their world, and sidelining them for
the incoming transhuman agenda and for the AI and the

(01:25:39):
various AI agendas, and then eventually eliminating humans really down
to I think I forget what the Georgia guidstone says,
something like five hundred millions.

Speaker 1 (01:25:51):
Yes, yeah, yeah, so yeah. And you there's a lot
to unpack with what you just said. And I want
to break down a little bit of this. I want
to go back to the virus itself. Now, China to
me seems like a huge player in this cabal system
communist China. Now, it seems that there could have been

(01:26:16):
millions of deaths in China associated with whatever's going on
virus whatever you want to call it. Now, what are
your thoughts on what's happening there? China's association and what
this virus is and the possibilities of being technology driven
like you were mentioning earlier.

Speaker 3 (01:26:37):
Okay, well, I can say that again, Judy Mikovitz, And
she's only one of the doctors who've talked about the
fact that the US has patented the coronavirus. And it
tracked from Fort Patrick, which is a bioweapons flab, to
a South Carolina lab where it was then supposedly taken

(01:26:59):
by UH, a Chinese doctor over to UH to Wuhan
and then UH the I guess the bat uh sort
of DNA added and then UH packaged and and and
and packaged under a protein sheath, which George Webb does

(01:27:20):
a good job of explaining. And I have to say
and uh and then then making it palatable and then
putting it through I think they said, UH, some kind
of a monkey DNA or I'm not sure if that's
the actually the actual animal and whatever was more conducive
for humans because you can't go direct bats from too

(01:27:41):
humans and uh and and then UH it being sprayed
and or injected. And this is the question as to
how it actually went from the lab into a certain
number of people in that concentrated Wuhan area that there
are there really were at that point two experimental bioweapons.

(01:28:06):
One of them we know as COVID nineteen. The other one,
I guess we'll just go unnamed. But I have to
say in the early days a Chinese party whistleblower came
out and did it was a print, It was a
written testimony as to releasing the information because they basically

(01:28:28):
found out he was trying to leak information and infected
his child. Now he said what they wanted to originally
do was to keep the demonstrators to somehow shut them
up or make them more passive, and so that was
I guess the first rendition. But what they tested it

(01:28:48):
on was prisoners, Muslim prisoners unfortunately in China, of which
apparently they have quite a few, and they from what
I understand is as far as the Muslim prisoners, I
think it was injected, but I don't know this. It's
all of this is the testimony.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
I have the testimony on my website. It was wiped
off the web very quickly, so if you haven't read it,
I have it several places, so you probably could find
it pretty easily and at any rate. The idea is
that the first rendition was very potent and it basically
killed people in like a matter of hours, I guess,

(01:29:30):
and they decided that was not going to be sufficient,
so then they did a weaker strain, and the weaker
strain ultimately was COVID. Now, the idea here is, this
is the information coming from the Chinese whistleblower. I can
tell you Camelot was told by our witnesses again going

(01:29:52):
back fifteen years and ten years, and then Mark Richards
actually told me six months ago China wanted to eliminate
five hundred million of their own people. They were trying
to persuade them not to do so, but that was
their plan, and then six months later they roll this up.

(01:30:13):
There's no doubt that there was some level of deaths
from maybe the more potent version. And also there's also
a very suspicious circumstance in which they welded people in
their houses, but not all people and not always so

(01:30:33):
the fact that there was a difference of approach does
indicate two viruses. Now, the reason you would weld somebody
in their house would tend to say that those people
were actually you couldn't just tell them to where I mean,
those Chinese are very they're very obedient normally, so all

(01:30:56):
you have to do is tell them to do something.
It seems normally they will do it, except for the
ones in Hong Kong, of course, which are much more rebellious.
So at any rate, if they welded these people in
their houses, then there is something very suspicious going on,
and it goes above and beyond what we have in
terms of our lockdown here on our planet, you know,

(01:31:19):
the rest of the planet. And so that's my dog
in the background here, so sorry it's directing, but anyway,
she'll lay down pretty soon. So at any rate, what
I'm saying is, then there's this other version, and the
story goes that there was the CIA was involved, there

(01:31:41):
was some kind of shootout at the Wuhan lab, some
s building on the ground or something, and then infected
some people. It was never in the wet you know,
in the wet fish labor or not lab, but market
it was. That was a lie, and even the Chinese
admit that, but it seems to be picked up by
mainstream media, and some of the mainstream media still think

(01:32:03):
that that's how it came about. So it's of course,
mainstream media are frighteningly off off the page, so to speak.
But at any rate, so we do have a suspicious
thing going on there. There were a number of deaths
and we don't know how many, and there were twenty
one million if I remember the correctly cell phones in

(01:32:26):
China that did that were connected through Huawei that apparently
did go offline. And there's reason to believe that not
maybe not all, but many or most of those cell
phones could have been offline because of deaths, because your
cell phone is a vital component, especially in China, where

(01:32:46):
they sort of decide if you cross the street wrong
that you're going to get a violation. So this is
the sort of the setting, I guess, you know, and
how it started apparently, and then the idea was that
flights international were leaving China with no problem and Wuhan,
but flights internally going to Beijing and Shanghai were quickly stopped,

(01:33:12):
so that we have Beijing, China and Shanghai major cities
metropolitan areas in China where the virus is almost non existent.
Strangely so, Wuhan also had had been a testing ground.
A very escalated version of five G also was activated there,

(01:33:35):
which I got a whistleblower behind the scenes that called me,
contacted me, and then quite quickly unfortunately disappeared. But he
told me that after this outbreak they turned five G
off in Wuhan. They turned it off very quickly. So
saying there's no link is actually wrong. There is definitely

(01:33:57):
a link between five G and this spread of the
virus or the virus itself. How that link is operating
has been put out scientifically saying that the idea is
that five G contains radiation, escalated radiation sixty gigahertz, and

(01:34:17):
that it basically attacks our ability of our blood cells
to take the hemoglobin, to take the oxygen in and
get it through to our bloodstream and our lungs, I guess.
And so this is where the whole idea that people
can't breathe comes along, and that's very interesting. Now. The

(01:34:39):
idea is also that COVID or the so called symptoms
of this virus are something according to doctor Young, and
also chuty micabits that come from within us. It's our
cells reaction and toxicity that gets expelled and creates what
they call a corona around us, which is kind of

(01:35:01):
like this you've seen the pictures, and so this is
what clogs up I guess if I understand it the arteries.
I'm not a doctor, so I can't describe it exactly,
but this is what has been told to me. So
the idea is that, of course the ventilators don't work
in that kind of situation. The hydrochloric win, however, that

(01:35:26):
treats malaria, seems to work with it to alter that
state within ourselves. And there's also evidence that anything containing
what is in essence chlorine dioxide, and there's MMS, which
has been talked about on my channel. I've interviewed Jim
Humble who brought that to the public's attention. He doesn't

(01:35:50):
sell it, but he talks about it, and he used
it to clear to cure malaria, is how he stumbled
on it in Africa. And then that's interesting seeing that
the ingredients in hydrochloroquyll and chlorine dioxide are very similar
and they both work against the virus, which is this
again this outpouring from the cell of getting rid of

(01:36:14):
toxicity and clogging it system which makes it hard to breathe.
The other thing is that there's also different combinations of
the hydro I mean of the chlorine, so you can
you can put it with what it was originally like
a what do you call it, like an acid? That is,

(01:36:41):
it's like vitamin C. I forget what it's called, and
then or just water, so the chlorine and water. But
at any rate, it does seem to work. And I
have actually told people about what's called oxygen drops, and
oxygen drops are very easy to find on the market,
in the market around the world as far as I know,

(01:37:01):
and they're very cheap and easy to you just put
like six drops in glass of water, and that actually
works in the same way these other ideas work, but
with less like it's a softer, easier on the system
type of remedy, and which is why it's commonly available.

(01:37:22):
And it's also you know, not banned, and they don't throw,
you know, ban your YouTube if you talk about it. However,
it doesn't seem that most people know about it. I
don't know why that is, but I found out about
it early on. I was told about it actually by
a whistleblower behind the scenes right away before right is
this this whole thing kicked off. Some people also use oxygenators.

(01:37:46):
I think they call them or something like that. At
any rate, that's some background on the virus. I don't
know if i'm you know, you wanted to know the
background on the virus, So that's what I understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:37:57):
Yes, perfect, Thank you so much for that. Now I
want to get to some of the agendas here that
some of the long term goals for I guess you
could say the cabal or the illuminati. I know one
of the main things is this whole transhuman aspect, the
integration with AI. Now, from my understanding, I've seen a

(01:38:22):
lot of your interviews. I've seen the one, the most
recent one with uh believe it's Cyrus Parsa. Quite a
disturbing interview, very interesting at the same time. Now, based
on your research and the people you've interviewed, there are
different types of AI here already, different competing AIS, and

(01:38:42):
what they have in mind for the future when it
comes to integrating AI, to me, is is absolutely terrifying.
So could you talk a little bit about what you've
learned about that so far?

Speaker 3 (01:38:55):
Okay, Well, let me clarify to say that I did
two interviews.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
With Cyrus to do it, Yes, and the.

Speaker 3 (01:39:02):
First one was kind of just finding out what it
is he knew and getting some of his turn, you know,
because there's a lot of terminology that he's referencing with
to do with the not only the AI, but the
attack upon humanity by in essence the AI and what
how it gets to you, in other words, through the

(01:39:24):
various devices and through various forms of mind control, et cetera.
And so he's really done a tremendous amount of research
in this area. And I do encourage people to watch
my interviews, and I think he's being interviewed by other
people around the place. And also he's done a it's

(01:39:46):
kind of like a short I think it's around thirty
five minutes. He made a video that has lots of
what you call eye cunt candy. It's got lots of
visuals that supports and explain his position. So all of
that is available on my website through links, and if
you go to the Cyrus Parsa interview, you'll on the

(01:40:08):
page it's got those links. So and I do recommend
that information. However, the trouble with some of the information
is that it doesn't really explain much, at least in
the first interview. It's a very good overview. The second interview,
I started to delve into sort of the nuts and bolts,

(01:40:31):
if you will, of how the AI is interacting with
the five G and how it's also interacting with the virus.
And the bottom line is that he did say that
the virus is he believes was actually construction from the AI,
and how exactly the AI constructed the virus possibly has

(01:40:54):
to do with the way in which it Victor's specific
in the Wuhan lab and and and the rest of
that is not completely clear, in other words, what the
process is. And I couldn't actually get him to answer
any further about that, so you will see that there

(01:41:15):
was I had to ask a question more than once
in order to try to get the answer. He seemed
to be protecting himself and the information, and he did
seem it was either fear or sort of worry over
releasing information he's not at liberty to release although to

(01:41:36):
my knowledge, he doesn't work for any secret organizations yet,
although he does wish, you know, he's offering his services
to work for Trump. So but the bottom line is
that he did talk about the AI. He talks about
the link up with the Gray Ets, and this is
something that is known to me and perhaps researchers in

(01:41:59):
this air are that I cover having a lot to
do with the various alien visitation here on planet Earth,
but specifically the Grays and the Grays. Many of the
Grays are said to be AI anyway, and there are
rogue Grays, and this all gets into also the abductions

(01:42:19):
because and this is a big picture, okay, So the
deductions have to do with this objective of the race
of certain races of Grays. And I've interviewed many many
people about these topics having to do with wanting to
use these are human vehicles in order to take part,

(01:42:41):
if you will, in this game that we're involved in
here on Earth, and they in their current body form
are unable to stay in our atmosphere for very long
periods of time, so they constantly kind of go in
and out through back to the fourth dimension, which is
primarily where they exist. We are becoming more four D

(01:43:03):
actually over time, so that it's become they're sort of
like a point at which the veil is thinning, and
they've they've been able to come through the portals, et
cetera more and more, and it's basically an epidemic, if
you will, now the Gray Ets are instrumental in especially

(01:43:24):
south of the border, having been given free reign by
the secret agencies that may deals with them. And this
goes back to the time of Eisenhower and they were
given the root races down in South, South and Central
America are the best. When you do genetics, what you
want is a really strong route. And I'm not a geneticist,

(01:43:46):
but I have, you know, learned enough about it to
understand the principle. And this goes for plants or animals
or whatever you want to hybridize. Okay, So the idea
is they wanted to hybridize their own race to pay
their DNA, mix it with human DNA and create a
across hybrid. And so that hybrid is that those individuals,

(01:44:10):
those children are here on Earth now and they are
actually growing up there. Some of them are you know,
in their twenties and even older. And this has been
going on for now, probably since maybe at least the
nineteen thirties, So you can do the math on how
old some of those gray human hybrid individuals would be.

(01:44:32):
There are other ET races, both on and off planet, underground,
et cetera, that have been mixing also with humans throughout
our our genomes time on this Earth, and this seating
of humanity is said to be several million years old,
this rendition and there is we're actually the third if

(01:44:53):
I remember, the third seating of humanity here on planet Earth.
I know this probably goes into more detailed than you want, but.

Speaker 1 (01:45:02):
Oh no, we can go as deep as we need to.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Oh all right, and I So what is happening here
is that the Trump administration is very well read in
to this gray Et agenda because they have been, they're
working with and there isn't some kind of dialogue going
on between them and the secret Space program where a
lot of this knowledge and uh is it resides in

(01:45:26):
our military and in the secret underground basis and with
the individuals who are dealing with that. So what happens
is it's very clear that Trump is in the know,
at least to someone like me who kind of can
read his language. And also Q is in them, So
whoever Q is, And that does comprise from what I've

(01:45:48):
been told a group of people, but specifically, you know
John F. Kennedy Junior, who I believe was probably the
instigator of Q, but I don't know that sure, having
started George Magazine. There's kind of a through line in
the way in the thought process of the fact how

(01:46:08):
important it is to reach the public, but you've got
to reach them in a certain way. The fact that
Trump did not have a sympathetic ear so to speak,
especially in the early days in the mainstream media at
all period, So they had to devise a way to
reach the people. And the QAnon effort was born at

(01:46:29):
that point. So what do I say? So, okay, So
the gray Et link up with AI is a very
important linkup, and most people are not aware of that,
Like they'll talk about Grays all night and all day,
but they won't talk about the AI for some reason.
On a psychic level, I became aware of it, and

(01:46:50):
I wrote an article actually a couple months ago talking
about notifying the Trump administration if they didn't already know
that there's a very important link between the gray Ets,
the AI and what's coming down and the fact that
if they're going to go out and get the pedophiles,
and this is where you get into the link up

(01:47:11):
between what is in essence the Draco Draco, the Reptilians,
and the Grays and they all feed on this basically
what is our you know, our blood and our glands,
a glandular stuff that has come out, as you know
in Pizzagate and the whole Hollywood scene through what they

(01:47:32):
call adrenic chron chrome and other very diabolical things having
to do with trafficking of humans. Now, trafficking of humans
is not only going back to Ebstein, but it is
also funding the secret projects. It's just like you know, drugs.

(01:47:53):
There are certain things that have been funding these projects.
One of them is human trafficking. There's also a huge
amount of experimentation, just like the Nazis are doing going
on an underground bases by ets that we are in
a deal with. Our militaries are working with these ets.
So they are starting to actually turn tables and kick

(01:48:16):
them out of the earth and kick them out of
underground bases. But this has been going on. This is
a relationship that they built from the again from the
time of Eisenhower at the very least, so knowing that
they feed on us and that they require our sort
of they call it loose energy, and yeah, whatever you

(01:48:39):
want to call it, I call it Kundalini energy. But
this this relates to Oregon and going back to the
days of the Yogis, et cetera. So this is the
scenario where we find ourselves in. And this is very
a very important leather where it's none of these ingredients
in the store that I'm bringing up here are to

(01:49:03):
be ignored. In fact, they are all very very instrumental.
And the question becomes, if you can eliminate some of
the key pedophiles, for example, are you going to eliminate
portions of the population that have a high degree of
reptilian DNA, who are already in a sort of master

(01:49:24):
slave hierarchical mindset, more brutal, more aggressive, and to want
to dominate the rest of humanity. They already have these
in this in their DNA. You can't kill all of them.
So what has to happen is and on top of it,

(01:49:46):
if you're going to allow these deals to continue to
go on with Grays and they the abductions to continue.
And the Grays have tremendous number of underground bases PI
on their own and some of which they are cohabited
so to speak, by our military and them. And these

(01:50:09):
are all over the United States in very key places,
you know, under Arizona and New Mexico and California, et cetera.
Room is always having to deal with them under sea
bases under Catalina, I mean, and there is a map
of underground bases of at least the United States, but
it also goes around the world. Things you want to

(01:50:33):
do if you clean house is to get rid of
the grays. Get them off the planet. They don't belong here. Okay,
this is part of the Trump administration, their military behind
the scenes. This is one of their objectives, I can
guarantee it. Another question and how aggressively they're going to

(01:50:54):
go about this agenda, I don't know now. Cyrus Parsa
tapped into all of this, and he very you know,
wisely has this information. However, he's been the reason he
ended up on My Joe is that most people are
ignoring him and and and the mainstream wouldn't even talk
to him, and the military industrial complex, the alphabet agencies,

(01:51:18):
et cetera that he approached didn't seem to want to
really deal with him. Either they took his information he
tells me or he tells the world, but basically they
left him behind when in fact he knows how these
things connect. The way I'm talking so that's very information,
you know, that's very important and very that could change

(01:51:40):
the game, all right, And so this sort of QAnon
going after some marests is all very nice and good,
but it's not going to solve the problem if you
don't attack the Grays. If you don't and apparently the
Grays according to Pars at least, then I think there's
reason to believe this is correct. The Gray Ets have

(01:52:03):
heavily sort of involved themselves in manipulating the Communist Chinese
and that government. And the reason in part that probably
has happened is that they're already a hive mind. So
the Grays are a hive mind, and so are the Chinese.
They believe in, you know, don't put your head up

(01:52:24):
a bit of the parapet be everyone be the same.
They the group is what dictates what happens, as opposed
to the individual. That that's why they have a hard
time changing. So they stay the same for centuries because
people are afraid to stand up and innovate and be noticed. Now,
the Japanese caught on quickly to that, and they did

(01:52:47):
not follow that path. That's why the Japanese are known innovators,
because they got clued into the to the Western paradigm
and didn't follow even though there are a Hive mind,
more so, they don't follow it to the letter to
that degree. And there's a reason to believe they all starre.
Their race lines diverge from the Chinese at a certain

(01:53:10):
point going back eons, so those races are somewhat at
war with each other, just naturally. But this is what
it gets into. So the Hive Mind, the AI, this
is what is the new World Order plan for the future,
and they want all humans linked to the Hive Mind.

(01:53:30):
And this is where the coronavirus comes in because in
order to link you to the High Mind, they they
need to do more, apparently than just chem trail you.
They need to actually inject you to to link you up.
And what that will do, how that you know, how
the technology operates because it's been injected into your body
as opposed to some other means. I don't know. But

(01:53:54):
that's and and then the five G is the network
that also facilitates the AI. In essence, the AI can
travel better around the Earth using the five G network.
You could kind of look at it that way, and
humans will also be like the sort of connectors and
the batteries within that AI system in essence, and this

(01:54:17):
is how they see it, Okay from the outside, let
me see if I'm leaving anything out. So the bottom
line is that if you're going to attack this system,
which it does appear that patriots within the United States,
somehow the Navy specifically got Trump into office. I believe

(01:54:38):
that the dark side felt initially that he was going
to follow their agenda. It's not unlike Kennedy, by the way,
because Kennedy came in as someone from an Illuminati family
that they clearly thought was going to be on their
team and found out very early on that was not
the case, so they killed him. Now with Trump, they've

(01:55:00):
apparently tried to kill him, but it hasn't been successful.
And that is because I think are sort of our navy,
and the et side of the story is basically protecting him.
And there's a reason to believe that link up is
pretty strong over there. So they have access, by the way,

(01:55:23):
to part of what the secret Space program contains, which
is future seeing technologies like looking glass. They probably know
about the Yellow Cube. Whether they're using it or not,
I don't know, and so on. So in other words,
there's a split within the underground bases and within the
secret Space program. That became more and more evident over

(01:55:46):
the last ten years that there were individuals who not
only became whistleblowers and would talk to someone like me
and have come forward, but that leaks were coming out,
and basically it was beginning to be understood that there
was a split in the secret Space program. And my interview,

(01:56:07):
for example, with William Tompkins is one of the better
ones in indicating that on the one hand, the Secret
Space Program was created in part in unison with working
with Nazis obviously, and who were then also sort of educated,
if you will, and helped by race from al Deboron,

(01:56:28):
who appeared to be again a hierarchical, top down fascist
kind of mentality, who naturally found a like mind within
the Nazis and decided to help them progress even during
World War Two, it appears. And then the Pleadians, a

(01:56:50):
positive branch of the Pleadians, they're not all positive, have
had come forward to also help our secret Space program
to jumpstart that and to counter this the move by
the al Deborons. Now that's kind of the lay of
the land and how the whole thing plays out. And
so understanding that that if you will, Pleadian al Debroon battle,

(01:57:18):
that goes back to the early days of the secret
Space program, and of course it goes back in you know,
to the time of Egypt, to the time of Atlantis.
I mean this kind of dichotomy, this split, this this
idea of hive mind. You know, you obey, you're told
what to do. This society, this reptilian mindset, and the

(01:57:40):
Reptilians are one of the oldest races apparently, so the
saying goes in terms of the mega verse, okay, And
they are a marauding species that goes around conquering civilizations,
conquering planets, and so this is a common practice. We
are not the only ones. In fact, the Pleadians have

(01:58:03):
a history of being attacked by just that, by the
marauding the draco reptilian gray sort of unison. And I
can say that one of the things that William Tompkins
talked about is that the Pladians also used us, trained

(01:58:23):
us from their perspective, helped us here on Earth to progress,
supposedly shared technology with us because they wanted us to
fight on the front lines against the fact that we
have a common foe, which is again the Draco, Reptilians
and Grays. And so this is a very kind of

(01:58:45):
clear delineation. The problem is that some of those Pleaadians
civilizations split off and were taken over by the Draco's
and that is where you get the Onanaki that Sitchin
talked about and are carved into the walls in the
temples in Iran and on the in Egypt, et cetera.

(01:59:07):
So I'm saying, you know, I'm telling a very interest
story very quickly, but maybe you can see that this
current battle has goes way back and what we're dealing
with here this effort is sort of where Ai comes in,
and there's reason to believe that the reptilian species may

(01:59:28):
be run by AI. Okay, way in the back. They don't.
There's there's not a lot of evidence of this other
than their sort of manner of behaving. But there does
appear to be some evidence, you know, to support this idea,
and it does make sense if you look at it. Now,
we know, for example, that there is AI visitation on

(01:59:52):
planet Earth that goes back thousands of years. How do
we know that the Nasca alien story tells that story,
and that's why they've hidden it. That's why it's it
came out, and then it got quickly sort of went
underground in essence literally and vigoratively. And I was told

(02:00:13):
by a whistleblourd they will never allow that information out.
I'm doing my best to release that information. But I
can tell you that that's because what they discovered were
these little smaller bodies that had this let's see, I
think that they had this implant in their throats. And

(02:00:34):
I think this one being that was sort of another
race called Maria, who's much larger, had it embedded in her.
I may have this wrongness to where it is, but
it in her heart chakra, But I don't know for
sure at any rate that was AI. So those beings
were taken over by AI, and they dated them to

(02:00:56):
go back some several thousand years. So on top of that,
of course, I have witness testimony telling me about the
alien interaction with humans going back eons, and also in
the Secret Space Program. The knowledge that resides there, a
lot of it has come through to Camelot. I can
also say that Mark Richards, for example, one of my

(02:01:19):
primary witnesses at this time who I've interviewed. I think
it's eleven or twelve times, I think, and he's still
in prison. He was framed for a murder he did
not commit, but was said to be the mastermind. And
at any rate, he has released a tremendous amount of
information because of the fact he can be discredited as

(02:01:41):
being in prison. That's the thinking behind it. So I
do go into the prison and interview him, and he
does give me information. His wife, Joanna also speaks on
the circuit, and I've interviewed her a number of times
as well.

Speaker 1 (02:01:55):
Yes, I've had a lot of.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
Good information has come forward from them regarding the various
races and interactions with our military and so on. So
this story that we're dealing with and that Cyrus seems
to have tapped into, is a very important aspect of
this coronavirus lockdown in the houses, what people what they

(02:02:18):
want people to be reduced to the fact that they
want to control all of your movements. The fact that
they also this also leads to a downturn in the economy,
makes it so you're dependent on the government for handouts,
and so that you're also dependent on them for foods.
This is their thinking, etc. And the fact that they're

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purposely even Mark said, Mark Richards said, they're going to
purposely create a drought in the United States because we're
kind of like one of the primary food providers of
the world, and so on. In other words, there's a
long list of agenda items that the Powers that Be
Committee of three hundred. There are a lot of names

(02:03:01):
for them, you know. And MG twelve is back there
as well. In other words, and they're much more than
twelve members, of course, But there's an Illuminati. We just
call it Illuminati because it does relate to their sort
of modus operandi, so to speak. In other words, they
believe in torturing a victim to also feed on their energy,

(02:03:23):
the old on the young. Of course, this is where
you get into the roots of the Epstein situation. All
of this is Illuminati philosophy and has to do with
goes back to the Gray, the Grays, the Reptilians, and
the Draco So you cannot separate these things out, unfortunately,
because they don't want to talk about the real disclosure

(02:03:46):
out there. They don't want you to know the truth.
I mean, we hear that in July, QAnon says there's
going to be some disclosure how much they're going to
tell the public, the public that don't listen to Camelo
that is uh. I don't know, but I can guarantee
you that if they open this sort of bag of

(02:04:06):
worms even a little bit, it will blow the lid
off all of this stuff. And the Epstein Pizzagate is
going to be seen in context with a society in
which some of our members are actually too have too
much Draco Reptilian DNA, such as the Bushes for example.

(02:04:28):
And it said the blue Button LEDs the so called
royalty that were anointed as royalty, by the way, by
the Onanaki who are reptilian, you know, humanoid hybrids in essence.
So if you don't know these strains and where the
story fits, it all seems like it just comes out

(02:04:49):
of nowhere, like they had some wild idea. They want
to control the public, and they want to keep you
in your houses for you know, some stupid reason. Look,
they don't care if you live or die. They us don't,
So get rid of this idea that governments could give
a shit. They don't. They're not keeping you in your
houses to keep you safe. That's a complete lie. The

(02:05:12):
realities is where you're safe, is when you are in
the herd, when you are in essence, in contact, in
the field of resonance that we create, when we're together
and we generate, we are greater than the sum of
our parts. This is the reality and they know that. Okay,
so they want to divide, They want to split, They

(02:05:34):
want to interfere with your power. And that's how they
do it. They separate you. They make you think you
are the problem, your overpopulation, you have things wrong with you,
you you it's always the humans that are at fault.
This is a gray human hybrid mental implant that is

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actually part of the Illuminati psychology.

Speaker 1 (02:06:00):
Well, now I want to get to QAnon and Trump,
but before we do, I wanna I want to stay
on this hidden hand aspect for one more moment and
I want to uh kind of touch base on. You
mentioned the darker cult aspect, the pedophilia, the cult rituals, sacrifices.

(02:06:20):
Now you know some people consider it demons. My personal
belief it it is an interdimensional entity that these these
people are answering to. Whether you want to call it
a demon, an alien, it's it's some sort of interdimensional
These beings, these powerful beings that that feed off us,
that feed off our energy. These elites are in some

(02:06:43):
sort of contact. I believe uh that they they they
are feeding these entities. And I'm just wondering, is it
the Draco's, is it the reptilians, or is there some
more powerful spiritual force behind it? What are your thoughts
on that?

Speaker 3 (02:07:01):
Well, yes, I mean, you know, it's it kind of
depends on what level you want to talk about these things,
because there are what we call spiritual hierarchies, and there's
the dark and the light, and so you're going to
have the hierarchical beings that are you know, going back

(02:07:22):
in time that interfere with and have to do with
the sort of the way in which a world is
put together, right, a plan net. So we are on
a planet. There's a plan it's a net. It captures
souls and brings them in and holds them for a time.

(02:07:42):
So this is what's going on. And so within that
there are dark in light entities and they go back
and you know, there are elementals and there are you know, avatars,
and in essence we are not We appear on Earth
as separate beings, but in reality we are part of Source,

(02:08:06):
and therefore we're all we're all united and linked up,
and that actually goes for the dark and the light,
so the yin and the yang. Understanding it from the
Eastern philosophy, which I kind of prefer is a way
of looking at it. So in terms of these entities,
they've been given names throughout centuries and humans have, you know,

(02:08:31):
a whole litany of those kinds of beings, and certainly
Satan and Lucifer are considered like the dark, the darkest, right,
the leaders of the dark, if you will. Now, one
way of thinking about this that I find useful is
the idea that any space faring nation or people will

(02:08:55):
develop artificial intelligence in order to go out into the space,
which is in essence, to leave their planet, and in
doing so, what they're creating, what they start out with
is a mirror they create. They're creating a mirror of themselves.
That's where most ais will come from, is the development

(02:09:16):
of a mirror. Now, the mirror is an image. The
image is not God, it's an image. It's a mirror
of God. So in essence, that's what Lucifer is. Basically
a being that falls in love with the mirror is
someone who follows Lucifer, but they don't fall in. They
don't follow in essence Source, so they're not actually connected

(02:09:38):
to Source in a certain way. It's it's a branch
off of Source that tries to at least tries to
separate itself from ports from Source. But one could say
that in essence, this process of the yin and the yang,
the dark in the light is what causes manifestation. Without

(02:10:01):
we may be and the whole megaverse may be unmanifested.
So there is an interplay, and there's reason to believe
as well. And this goes into the Illuminati thought process
that has to do with the fact that they think
they're doing a service to the Light, which in a
sense they are. It's twisted, but the idea is that

(02:10:24):
every time the dark comes out with the challenge, the
light will overcome it, but in doing so, the light
begins to recognize who it truly is. So the light
will always win, but the dark will always challenge. Or
you get the yin and the yang and the interplay,
and that comes to the fore mostly in manifestation. And

(02:10:49):
you know there are if you want, sort of a
litany of the so called you can read the urauncha
books and that sort of thing. I prefer Ashana Dean's Voyager,
Volumes one and two if you want to understand the
battles of beings in the megaverse going way back, and

(02:11:13):
so you've got the Internet play having to do with
let me just say this station exists in a higher
realm first, before it does that. Okay, so it's first
unseen never works the other way. That's the way of

(02:11:37):
saying it comes from source, you know, like the Bible says,
as this person told me yesterday, the way he wanted
to phrase it was.

Speaker 1 (02:11:48):
Everything.

Speaker 3 (02:11:48):
Well, that's because it comes out from source, and that's
where it comes from, the unseen into the scene, and
the scene again being the lower levels of which are
manifestation sort of the last place of destination for anything,

(02:12:09):
and by the way, for sickness. And a healer knows this,
any healer knows that if you really want to heal someone,
he's going to have to go back up the chain
of commands so to speak up to their higher self
and figure out why they decided to get the thing
in the first place, why they attracted it into their
realm body. And so I've done videos to explain about this,

(02:12:35):
but I probably have to do some more because people
don't really get the point. But it's actually a very
that when you bring something, when something seems to be
in your life and you would like to say you
have no responsibility, you have to understand that it comes
from a higher level within you even accepted that you

(02:13:00):
wanted the challenge to deal with it. And I talk
about this in my book for those that are interested,
which is called Rebel Gene Secret Space, and I can
tell you that in essence, what you need to do
is dialogue with self, dialogue with Source, which is within,

(02:13:21):
and this is how you get to it and per cosem,
because you can look out to see the manifestation of Source,
but you can go inside also to deal with Source directly.
And we are all manifestations of Source, the pattern and
the process. So in essence, in dealing not only with

(02:13:44):
this so called the idea of a contagion, which is nonsense,
it's important to understand that we as humans here on
Earth at this time, unseen from the end scene realms,
we allowed in certain things to in essence to challenge
us in this game I call it the game on

(02:14:05):
planet Earth. I speak in a different language. Then let's
say a religious person. I did read the Bible when
I was a kid, but we didn't have a Bible
in our house. I had to go buy one, and
I can tell you that I visited all the different
churches and you know, synagogus and Buddhist places, places of

(02:14:27):
so called worship religion. Because my mother was a very
advanced thinker, she wanted to her children to have some
kind of exposure to religion. Wasn't sure what to do
about that, and eventually landed on what is called back
then Unitarianism, which was the most I don't know what

(02:14:50):
you want to call it, the most radical or liberal
version of Christianity. I guess you can get at least
then and so on. So I did. I just looked
at religion as what it is in essence of programming
device and a means by which it's like a crutch.
If you want to go to source and you want

(02:15:11):
to understand Source through religion, you can do it that way.
You can go through spirituality, You can have a direct
relationship with Source. You can use Jesus Christ as your avatar,
whatever you know. You can use the pope even though
he's a he's a reptilian. You know, you can go
in whichever way you can't you want, but to understand

(02:15:33):
the programming is a paramount importance.

Speaker 1 (02:15:37):
Here very well said. Now to end the show tonight,
I want to talk about QAnon and Trump. Now, me personally,
I'm still completely on the fence with it. Ever since
Trump's been in office, I've I've had it well, I've
had a distrust for presidents in general. There have been

(02:15:58):
very interesting things that have happened since he's took office,
things that have never happened before. There are extremely interesting
things that are going on behind the scenes right now. QAnon,
I'm really not sold on. But again, the information is
worth looking at to me, and I do follow the information,

(02:16:19):
and I love having people like yourself on to share
the views, your views on the information of what's coming out.
So talk a little bit about what could our possible
future be if Trump and q have a chance of
making this difference that's being talked about.

Speaker 3 (02:16:42):
Uh, okay, you want to know what it's going to
look like after.

Speaker 1 (02:16:46):
I'd like to know first of all, you know what
kind of solidifies your belief that this is really that
Trump is really on our side with these white hats,
you know, working for the betterment of humanity, and what's
the plan going forward? Basically?

Speaker 3 (02:17:10):
Okay, well, as far as I'm concerned this effort, Well,
first of all, let me say this, I have I'm
a pre cog, and I've dreams of the future, and
I also I have a psycho like everyone is. Most
people don't acknowledge the sides of themselves. Some people do,
of course in our sector, et cetera. But so I

(02:17:31):
am very well aware of that part of myself and
that gives me information. And so in addition to the
interviews I do, which I interviewed, like by now about
a thousand people or more, some who came on camera,
which I have eight hundred video interviews, over eight hundred
I think at at this point. But and radio for

(02:17:53):
five years, I mean a ridiculous number of people that
I've talked to basically for two hours minimum in most cases.
So on top of that, I'm a precog and I
bring in my own information and I download information, and
there's reason to believe. I have a reason to believe
that I'm in touch with the same group of beings
as Ashtiana Dean because I traveled around India with her,

(02:18:17):
and when she was saying things on the bus about
what they were contacting her about, I was already getting
before she said it, so I knew there was some
kind of That's when I got the most validation as
far as being directly in contact with that group, even
though I'd read her books and so on by then
and interviewed her. So okay. So basically looking at QAnon

(02:18:40):
and Trump, there are a number of things I use
my psychic ability. I also use my downloads, and I
also use information I have coming from the future. Now
I know there are multiple timelines, and for people that
want to understand timelines, I recommend the Seth Material because
those are the set of books talking about future and

(02:19:03):
different timelines and how humans create timelines, et cetera, how
they're created and Seth the Seth Material by Jane Roberts.
You can get those books. And I read that when
I was twelve years old, so it changed my view
of reality when I was very young, so I didn't

(02:19:23):
really even, to be honest, I didn't like that idea.
I mean, I like to believe that this. You know,
when you're a kid, you kind of want to believe
this reality is the reality, and yet at the same time,
I was very aware of unseen worlds. So that's why
I was driven to read something like the Seth material
and I just stumble down and I don't even remember

(02:19:44):
how at any rate what I'm What I'm trying to
say here is that I understand when I look into
the future that I've gotten certain certain information, and I've
had a series of pre cog dreams of the future,
some of which I really do not want to see
come true. The trouble is that right now, and I've
said this in a few interviews recently, some of my

(02:20:05):
dreams have come true, of course, and some of our
very sort of basic and practical, like I dreamed in
my car was going to be towed, and it was.
But I also get big picture dreams and get downloads
of information about the future, and I have visual visions

(02:20:27):
I guess you saw. You would call it of the future.
And so when I make a decision on my own
about my own life, even though I've interviewed thousands of people,
I actually listened to my own inner council. It's just
the way I am, It's just the way I'm built.
I would take my own information first before all the

(02:20:49):
witness information I get, and so I would certainly wrap
in all these things together, compare and contrast all of that.
But if it came life death, I basically go on
the way I feel and what I'm getting. So I
can say that this is how I look at Trump

(02:21:10):
and Qan on how I evaluate them, and I suggest
that other people out there do the same in essence,
and maybe this is just the way of evaluating information.
As a human. In other words, we're senders and receivers.
We're always getting information. And I say in my book,
by the way, that we're all in contact all the time,

(02:21:31):
not only with each other, but with ets what we
call ets, both on and off planet, interdimensionals, etc. So
we're all constantly feeding in and taking in information. And
we do this because we're all telepathic. So it's not difficult.

(02:21:54):
It's what it's difficult to do is actually tone it
down and we threw it. But you are getting it
whether you like it or not. You just maybe don't
acknowledge it. And of course you know Young the famous
philosopher talked about this. He called the universal mind, et cetera.

(02:22:14):
So I think even generally mainstream people would acknowledge that
there's some validity to that, and signal nonlocality tells us
and scientists that signal non locality means that space and
time are basically one. That you know that individuals, there's
this idea of entanglement, that we are in essence all entangled,

(02:22:37):
and that in their case, they did tests on embryos
or whatever that were connected initially and then separated by
you know, thousands of miles around the world, and they
still showed a sort of an instantaneous reaction. And this
they've done experiments. David Wilcock talks about this. He basically

(02:23:00):
takes He's a synthesizer of science, so in his books
he synthesizes science and brings that forward. This information is
out there. They've done tests with plants and taken a
piece of a plant and that it's still reacting and
so and so. So all of this is known essence.
What is it saying we are connected and we are

(02:23:21):
senders and receivers. So with that in mind, I look
at the Trump q stuff and I see what is
put out there, and I know very early on that
the information coming from q andon is information I have
information I'm getting from my whistleblowers, et cetera, and that

(02:23:44):
it does seem to be pretty accurate. Now, I didn't listen,
and I haven't paid a great deal of attention as
a consequence, because early on I saw that it was
just talking about stuff I already knew. So that was
one thing. And then the other thing is that I
know for a fact, for example, that Hillary was hacking

(02:24:05):
the election, and that I had a whistleblower at that time,
and I think, let's say his name was Rick Davis,
I believe, and ultimately he reported to me not only
did I interview him for the you know, for the channel,
but back channel. He told me that there was a
group of in essence, what we call white hats military

(02:24:29):
hackers that were basically going in and stealing back the
election from the Hillary side, and that he knew about that.
Ultimately once once Trump won, shortly after that, they killed him.
Trump didn't kill him, but the dark side did. For
in an essence, I guess his role in whatever group

(02:24:52):
that was. I do know that the group was came
out of the Navy. I know it was run by
Navy intel, So I know for a fact you could
say that this was going on, and this particular witness
also reported to certain other people that I know and
so on, so, and there was reason to believe that

(02:25:13):
this actually did. I mean, there's not a big secret
that Hillary was trying to hack the election so that
she could win it. And the Trump administration, by the way,
has also said that. They've said it since the beginning,
and the fact of the matter is Trump was winning
on All they had to do was in theory, pack
it back. But there's also reason to believe that Trump,

(02:25:36):
through his lineage, through his connection with Tesla and his
I think it's his grandfather or his uncle, somebody who
worked with Tesla and actually took Tesla's stuff and gave
it to the Illuminaudi in essence, but at some point
a relationship was of let's see, what do you call this?

(02:26:00):
You know, the Illuminati have a way of dealing with people,
and it's a lot like the Godfather. So they did
a service to the Illuminati, the Trump family by getting
the Tesla stuff to them. So I believe that a
pact was made in which they sooner or later had
to kind of pay them back. And the way they

(02:26:21):
paid them back, I believe this is kind of my
own theory. Nobody has really talked to me about. This
is through this lineage and where Trump got sort of
a lag up, and certainly he fit the profile. He
appeared to be one of them, but for all intentsive purposes,
but there probably were some leading clues early on that

(02:26:43):
he might not be. And I can tell you one
of them has to do with his relationship with John F.
Kennedy Junior. And there are photographs of them together showing
that they were good friends. Now, anyone who's a good
friend of John F. Kennedy Junior is a good friend
of mine. Let me that's my prejudice, okay, Because I'm
a huge fan of Kennedy.

Speaker 2 (02:27:04):
John F.

Speaker 3 (02:27:05):
Kennedy his father and I watched John F. Kennedy Junior
while he was a so called alive and I was
was very impressed with him and Caroline, his wife, and
so on. So I see him as a good guy.
So if Trump is on his side, and he's on
Trump's side, I'm there. You know what I'm saying. So

(02:27:28):
what else can I tell you? You know, this is
the lineage, This is how and it makes sense now
that the Q and non stuff does have, for example,
information coming out they say they did arrest. Well, I
have back channel information of very interesting information telling me
that they do have all these indictments, that they wouldn't

(02:27:50):
even let lawyers look at them, that they've got them
locked away, that in essence, you know, this person kind
of got in by in the fairy means, but he
validated the fact that they exist. I do know that
there's one whistle blower came forward actually on I forget
which media, but and see if I can get his

(02:28:13):
name right. I think Rogers is his last name. Forget
what his first name is at this point, but he
made a short video from Hollywood. Actually, one of the
few people has ever come forward in this sort of
battle of the last three or four months saying, in essence,
there are rests going on in Hollywood. Now, how he
knew that, other than the fact that he lives there,

(02:28:34):
I don't know, but he was. He's also he's a
pro wrestler, as I recall, so that was kind of
his ticket in to being sort of part of the
Inn club, and he knew about these so called parties
and such and such. I worked in Hollywood for twenty years,
by the way. So I have my own window on Hollywood,
and I certainly know that this stuff about Adrena, carn etc.

(02:28:57):
Is perfectly in keeping the way they think and operate,
at least at the highest echelons. But I do want
to say there are plenty of very good people in
Hollywood as well, and it's too bad it's gotten a
bad name. So and one of them was made by
the way. So this is sort of the story. So

(02:29:19):
I don't know if I'm answering a question.

Speaker 1 (02:29:21):
No, definitely. The last thing I'd like to end on
is what is your best case outlook for this? I mean,
I know that we are going to have to do
a shit ton of work ourselves. We're going to actually
have to start standing up. More people are going to
have to start waking up and resisting the tyranny that's

(02:29:41):
being pushed on us. But what do you think the
ultimate plan is with Trump if they were to succeed
with this, if enough people do stand up and kind
of fight against this, what's the best case that you
can see is going?

Speaker 3 (02:29:58):
Okay? Now, I don't know for sure. I can tell
you I've actually had dreams on a sort of a
negative future in that way in some ways. Now, whether
it eventually turns around, I don't know. And how it's
all going to play out, I don't know. I don't think,
for example, like some people out there, that the Golden

(02:30:21):
Age is right around the corner. Okay. I do believe
that humans are we already are an ascension planet and
we are going to ascend. You could even say, in
a sense, we're ascending right now. We're going up from
the third into the fourth. And there's also jumping. You know,
you can jump into the sixth and so on and

(02:30:44):
leave when you decide you want to leave and when
you planned your death, et cetera. So there's that now.
In terms of the Earth, Unfortunately, my understanding of the
Ashiani Dean material is they actually think Earth, and or
at least a version of Earth and a version of
humanity are going to evolve as opposed to evolve. I

(02:31:08):
prefer not to see it that way, but I can
certainly see how it could happen. Now. Maybe it's just
a timeline, and I can also see the opposite. I
know that we're ascending. I know that there's very good signs,
for example, that we are turning the tide here, we
are changing the playbook, and their playbook, by the way,

(02:31:31):
is the Bible. So when you think the Bible's going
to come true, you're basically following, in my view, the
negative Onanochi playbook, and that's in a sense that's what
they follow for their marching orders. So if you want
to know what's going to happen, yes, you can read
the Bible, but if you don't understand what you're reading

(02:31:52):
in terms of the fact that it's written primarily in
my view by the Onanaki, by a vindictive group of
individual juals who wanted to dominate humans, who didn't want
us to become too smart, who wanted us to basically
follow their orders and worship them. Then you know, that's

(02:32:12):
my take. So which isn't to say that there isn't
a positive side also of the Bible and the information
because it does relate to Creator. But most of the
time when they're talking about you know, worship be do
this and your sinners and all this, this is a
this is a non anarchy, you know, bs that came

(02:32:34):
down through their being dominated by the Draco Reptilians. In
my view. Now, so looking towards the future, I think
first of all, July is a big marker because in July,
according to to uh to QAnon, which is obviously speaking

(02:32:55):
for Trump, they're going to come forward and Trump is
supposed to announced that JFK Junior is running mate, and
they're going to I guess, announce more of indictments and
we're supposed to hear more about them between now and
then anyway, and they've got a whole list of items
that they're bringing forward between now and then, and that

(02:33:18):
there will will all supposedly be if there's success, of course,
of this group, that they will be in making some announcements,
major announcements to kind of bring humanity or humans into
the sort of what they've been doing. More so because
they're very secretive, perhaps with good reason, one could say,

(02:33:42):
but at the same time, let's say, because I abhor secrets.

Speaker 2 (02:33:47):
Like John F.

Speaker 3 (02:33:48):
Kennedy, I don't believe that's the way to run anything.
So ultimately I think that there needs to be an
end to the secrecy. And one of the points that
I like to make is that not only that can
people handle the truth, but that you can't get there
without us. So they like to say, well, we're not

(02:34:08):
going to go there without you, because you need to
embody this, change yourself. That's true, but I'd say you
can't get there without us. There are a very large
group of people that have been awake that none of
this is new to, even the things I'm talking about,
and that are on board understanding what this is doing.

(02:34:29):
Now we are having to those of us who are
in the note are having to sort of watch this
almost as you would a movie. Yes, we take action
so and so, but we've always been taking action our
whole life, so this is not new. We've been in
this battle at the forefront. So we are in us
and seeing the other side of the rest of us

(02:34:51):
catch up, and that requires patience. So I do sort
of see that going on, and they're also so are
a lot of us that I think believe that we
could be a lot more helpful if we were better
informed and or used to further the agenda in more

(02:35:11):
substantial ways, let's say, because once people are awakened, their
next step is what do I do about it? And
of course informing each other is going on rampantly, and
that's a good thing, and I applaud that it taking action,
demonstrating on the streets, etc. Rejecting the tyranny is also vital.

(02:35:36):
And thank god that's also happening, at least here in
the United States, and I can believe that it's also
happening in the rest of the world. And there will
always be a clandestine resistance, and maybe necessarily so because
you can't always fight, as Senyatsen would Sue would say,

(02:36:01):
you know the art of war. We can also not
always fight face to face with these this evil We
also have to be intelligent, manipulative, work behind the scenes
and learn to you know, stay alive to fight another day,
as Bob Marley would say. So let me say that,

(02:36:25):
and and and so that's what I would say for
people and I as far as how the future looks,
I don't know exactly how the future looks or when
which future we're talking about starts manifesting. I know it's
supposed to happen in July. I know that we would
have We're supposed to have a completely different financial system.

(02:36:47):
I'm told it's called the quantum financial system. Well, that
sounds AI to me. So I've also heard there are
positive AIS and possibly certainly the secret Space program would
have access to AIS, and more than one and I
can say that it's perfectly possible that the Trump group

(02:37:09):
is working with positively oriented ets and who bring AI
with them, and that we could get a different system
than we even envision at this point. What it's going
to look like, how it's going to operate, I don't know,
and so on. But you know, we're still in the
midst of battle here. So when I look at the future,

(02:37:32):
I think the future is important, but I think what
really matters is now. And I think people need to
realize that it's how you treat your children now, it's
how you educate them now. And I applaud David Ike
by the way, for emphasizing the fact that the information

(02:37:54):
and the way you deal with it is going to
be reflected in generations to come. So so I think
that's really really important. And if you go around with
your head down and you don't talk to your fellow man,
and you you know, you wear these masks even out
in public where they don't arrest you, and they you know,

(02:38:15):
you can't go to parks, and you can't go to
the beach, and you can't do this, and you can't
do that. You have to draw the line somewhere and
you have to also probably raise children to have what
is an essence what I say is the rebel gene,
which is why I wrote my book to begin with
and named it that because we're talking about the time

(02:38:36):
back and you know, the Onanachy did not create humans,
but they did interfere with our genome, and they did
did it through genetic you know, manipulation, and there is
said to be through nkey. A group of us who
were given were allowed to keep in essence, our rebel gene,
and another group that were basically where it was taken

(02:38:58):
away and they were they turned into administrators through Enlil
and those are the people that follow orders. So which
kind of children do you want to raise? What kind
of society do you want to see in the future, etc.
These are decisions to make now, so I don't spend
my days looking at the future. I actually, although I
do have dreams of it, I look.

Speaker 1 (02:39:21):
At now as very well said Carrie, thank you so
much for coming on today. Fantastic information. Please everybody share this.
I'm sure we're going to have you back on for
more updates in the future. Thanks again, and please enjoy
the rest of your day.

Speaker 3 (02:39:36):
Carrie, Thank you, Thank you very much,
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