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Speaker 2 (01:55):
Today.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
I want to welcome back to the show Jake Parsons.
He has been a firefighter and pair medic in Central
Florida for about fourteen years. A musician and writer primarily
focusing on creating highly conscious content through the usage of language, symbol,
and metaphor. His YouTube channel is the Hundredth Monkey Jake Parsons,

(02:16):
and he is currently writing a book called Everyday Alchemy,
which he calls psychological fiction or para reality. Jake, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (02:24):
How you doing good? Brother? Thanks for having me back.
How are you?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
I am awesome, miss great to have you back on
every time with you as a mind melter. And I
know today's not gonna be any different. Well, I felt
from a very young age at times we're living in
now are probably the most critical and transformative in modern
human history. We know that being in this community that's
full of speculation and theories about where we're headed and

(02:52):
the underlying causes and reasons for everything. You know, great
reset or great awakening, to put it simply, and that's
what I think we should start with today now, twenty nineteen.
Did you have any idea how much human consciousness would
be evolving and evolving at the same time, just in
the past few years, the amount of change we've seen.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
I think, unfortunately we did. People like you and I
knew this was coming. We saw the writing on the
walls of Plato's cave, and we saw the projections they
were showing the masses and what they were indoctrinating us
to believe. Through all of our movies, all of our media,

(03:41):
it's all led us to this point. And whether you
want to think it's just science fiction and a tinfoil
hat conspiracy, we seem to be in a strange, weirdest
of weird reality right now, where all of the movies
we watched growing up are coming true. Our zombie films

(04:05):
are right around the corner, Our dystopic, technocratic slave system
future is here. Terminator is right around the corner. Supposedly,
we even have people in space. If you want to
believe those guys. But we even have a space force
called the Guardians, and they're guardian the Galaxy. So you

(04:26):
couldn't make it up if you tried. So even though
we knew we would be here, it seems like a
fun house mirror version of what we thought it would be.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
What are your thoughts on that. Hollywood has changed a
lot just in the past couple of years. I want
to get your thoughts on that too. But before all
the predictive programming we've seen has been closer to reality
than we could have ever imagined. I'm wondering if there
are individuals in Hollywood that are trying to initiate the masses,
or if they're just doing it as a big joke,

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or is it kind of revelation of the method where
they have to give us bits and pieces, or is
it just kind of fun magic for them. I don't know.
What do you think is going on with this revealing
of what's going on behind the scenes through Hollywood and
the media.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well, you're definitely right about both accounts. Hollywood. We both
know through someone like you know, Resting Peace, but the
Great we go a lot of debt in Maxwell and
you know he's mapping out the language symbols of the
next stage of reality wherever he is. And you know,
when we show up to the next place, there's going

(05:36):
to be like a Jordan Maxwell book for us to read,
and we'll be like, oh great, now he's written about
the sparrency, you know, but it's the hollywoods for someone
like Jordan Maxwell. We know the Hollywood. The wood from
the holly tree is what magicians and witches would use
to make their wands out of to cast their spells

(05:57):
with their cast of characters that they in Hollywood. Hollywood
is a Laurel Canyon creation. I'm a firm believer that
no forms of communication have ever been anything other than
intelligence agencies. Ideas for mining memes, mining language mining are slang.

(06:24):
You know. There's those old sayings where like as soon
as a language is censored, you have to start a
new one, and we start that through these memes and everything.
But even the Internet was given to us by DARPA.
So in my opinion, people like Jordan Maxwell, we're doing
the same thing we're doing today, which is just reading

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the language around us. And these weirdos in hollyweird are
so spiritual, ritualistic, superstitious, and they have to abide by
the clubs and secret sissies that they belong to in
their certain rules like revelation of the method, like terms

(07:09):
and conditions, contract agreements by showing us in symbols and
clearing their karmic debt. So it's Hollywood is so weird
and so obtuse now because they can be. In my opinion,
they know most people, by the point, have watched so
many zombie movies that they won't even batten on when

(07:32):
they say, in this movie COVID twenty five, vaccine gave
started the new zombie apocalypse and blah blah blah. You
know what I mean, Like I am legend is so
close to what is going on right now, and nobody
bats an eye. We watch movies all day about in
TV shows about conspiracies of corporations, true stories and heroes

(07:55):
Aaron Brockovich, but nobody wants to do it in real life.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
You're right, So I don't know what go ahead, finish?

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, I don't know what to do in that situation.
You know, people like us, it seems like it becomes
louder and clearer, and the other side they become just
more more dissonant, more enraged when you confront them, more hateful.
They're the ones who push us out of the families,

(08:26):
that push us out of the community, that push us
out of our job, no matter what we do and
what we tell them.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
It's a very strange thing we've seen, yes, and I
want to stick it with the whole Hollywood movie aspect
of this for a few minutes. If you think about
how magic is based off of enough of energy, and
our emotions and our feelings and our mental state can
dictate any outcomes, even ritually, ritualistically or through magic. And

(08:59):
if you think about the chain, the way that Hollywood
movies have triggered emotions in people throughout the years, the
amount of power that that could have possibly been hornessing
for whoever is directing these magic spells that is behind
the movies. The amount of energy that this has collected

(09:21):
through people's emotions and reactions to certain movies over the years.
I mean there's been some major emotional reactions to movies
throughout our years from everyone on the planet. Everyone loves movies.
So if you think about it that way, that's some
major hornessing of power and energy for many, many years right.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, absolutely. I read the whole Dune series when I
was in sixth grade, and recently when those movies came
back out, I reread the whole series again. Those movies
are an exact one to one ratio of this world,

(10:03):
just on a pseudo cosmic scale. But just like how
the invaders, this capitalistic corporation, the Hearkenins or the Savior
paul A Tradees go into the land or the planet
of Irakus, just like we went into Iraq. They go

(10:25):
in there and controlled the free men as what they
call them, but they're the free men. They're the aborigines
of this place, the iraqis of Iracus, and they go
there to mine their spice. Their spice is resource, it's
poppy opia fields, it's oil, it's whatever they got. And

(10:46):
the good story in that which it just won a
bunch of awards. I mean, this is one of the
major movie films that came out last year, Dune, and
in it there's a storyline throughout the whole book series
of the Bennie Jazz What does that sound like the Jesuits.
So the Bennie Jesuit Jesuits they are women, of course,

(11:07):
because they've got to invert it so people can't put
the two and two together. So they're women instead of
being like nuns that don't have sex. They control bloodlines
and breeding programs through religion, mining, getting data and intelligence
operations through confessionals and all that, and arranged marriages to

(11:27):
control the royals and these Benny Jesuit they go into
the land of Iracus and they install religion and they
say in that movie, we give them religion to prepare
them for kingship. So that way, when Paul shows up,
they believe he is not just a man that came
here from another culture to rule them, like he is

(11:51):
the queen. Basically that is descended from God and it's
divine rule, right, Like they're born into power, and the
only thing that justifies that is religion. And it's the
same thing we see today. I mean, all religions have
been installed to brainwash the people to accept kingship, en rule,

(12:14):
holy rule, monarchies, patriarchies, and Hollywood does the exact same thing.
It programs us and desensitizes us to. When we see
these plays in the open, like what happened to Jeffrey Epstein,
we just say, guess that's just the way the world works.
I guess cameras do just go down and then they
give us fake documentaries twenty years later, like about Jimmy Seville,

(12:38):
where they don't talk about the people that are still there.
The queen is still there, all those family members are
still there in power, but they don't want they don't
pay attention to that. Just it was only Jimmy Seville,
just like it was only Epstein and less Wesner had
no knowledge. So yeah, I think that what we see
in Hollywood now is all predictive programming, revelation of the method,

(13:03):
and disclosure inherently in that name disclosure is or dis
like dis ease. We will always have disclosure, it's already
been here. We will never have closure.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Man, that makes that makes a lot of sense. Well,
what about what's happened just in the past couple of years.
There's been a shifting going on in Hollywood, especially the
big actors and the movies they're putting out. The content
they're putting out is well, it hasn't been about entertainment
really for a long time. But it's even less about

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entertaining the people. It's less about getting good actors and
actresses in there.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
It's less.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's not even about money anymore. Really, it's about getting
whatever agenda that they want to push, whatever woke nonsense,
divisive nonsense, or get the uga to Bogata shot or
whatever where, whatever kind of propaganda. That's all it's about now. Yeah,
was they had propaganda all over Hollywood before, but that's it.
It's just strictly propaganda and pandering to this transhuman agenda

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showing you what a family should like look like, and
it's nothing like what any family you've ever seen in reality,
you know what I'm talking about. So there's a major
shift going on in Hollywood and people are noticing, and
people don't like it. It sucks, you know, people are
not being entertained anymore because it's not entertained.

Speaker 2 (14:26):
It's awful.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
They're just putting out crap to try and propagandize the
people to whatever agenda they're doing. And it's become that's
all Hollywood is. And I see a shift of people
going to other forms of entertainment. They want to see
real stuff. They want to hear truth, they want to
hear real people talk it or if it's you know, movies,
they want to see real actors. They want to have

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real entertainment, They want to have real talent in front
of them, which Hollywood is no longer bringing. So they're
going to alternative forms of entertainment. Now where do you
see that going in the future with Hollywood? Do you
see these same trends as well?

Speaker 2 (15:04):
I do. And it's almost not even as much of
a shifting as it is like a sifting. And these
the sifting grate of consciousness that we're shaking. It's catching
smaller and smaller people like us, Smaller and smaller people
distributed across these platforms because as they shake out at

(15:28):
all of our foundations and all of our beliefs and
everything we knew, all of the you know this with
a great reset, like as they destroy our culture so
they can rebuild it and the Hegelian dialectic, more and
more of us will stand up and be sifted out.
It's not like we shifted. We maintained the same position

(15:48):
right like center and the left is now the far
right by today's standards from ten years ago. So in
my opinion, it's almost like you don't even have to
shift people. And I try to do that with like
my videos on TikTok on. It's not so much that
you have to change people's mind. You just have to

(16:10):
give them the ability to stand on their own principles,
because eventually they will be attacked. It doesn't matter what
you believe, whoever's listening, whatever, As long as you believe
in something, you're going to be attacked one day. They
will come for you. Watch movies like Gatica read nineteen
eighty four Brave New World where Aldous Huxley's brother is

(16:33):
Julian Huxley and he's in the Royalist Society and they're
all illuminists, Illuminati World Economic Forum types. So Hollywood has
always been the form and the route of disclosure. It
might only be created also to give all these worthless
possible clones but definitely inbred bloodline people a job and

(16:54):
something to do, because it's like social media. All the
worthless ones are the ones that are influencers. They have
no skills in real life, like these Anderson Cooper's. They're
just a Vanderbilt kid that went to the CIA and
they are talking mouthpiece. But with what we see in
Hollywood and whether it's going to change or get better,

(17:18):
the strangest thing in my opinion has been this idea
of a stalled century that after nine to eleven, nothing's changed,
and through basically a mass ritual of trauma conditioning and
mind control, we never upgraded our consciousness to that next
state of frequency. I think that that's all Y two

(17:41):
K was about, was they didn't They tried to get
us with Y two K, but people weren't really sure.
They didn't know. Now, if Y two K was pulled
off in the year like twenty ten, people would have
freaked out. People would have rioted like no, the whole
systems could have crashed. They could have pulled it off.
I don't think they could have pulled it off then,
and it was, but that was probably a preparation a

(18:03):
black Swan event, a red herring for a possible false
flag if they needed it. But instead they pulled off
nine to eleven. They needed to go to war, they
needed to follow their plans and mortals and dogma Halbert Pike,
you know what I mean. So they pulled it off anyways,
But after that, you know, someone like me and you
have been conscious and into even just science fiction and

(18:27):
ideas and into just looking at art and media books
for a couple decades, all the same people from the
year like two thousand are still here. I mean, so
that's the strangest thing to me. And Hollywood, we're still
talking about Will Smith and Chris Rock. These people are
sixty years old. Jennifer Lopez, she's just came out in

(18:50):
a rom com with Owen Wilson and they're both like fifties,
and people still talk about how Jennifer Aniston is the
hottest chicken Hollywood when she's a fifty five year old
woman or something.

Speaker 1 (18:59):
I mean, like, dude, are they do you think it's
because it's harder to get the younger generations to comply
with these ridiculous shit.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
I think that they just are unwilling. They don't know
they lost, They don't know the changeover, They have no ideas,
They have no new stars because they held on to
power for too long. It's like they have no more
young people underneath these Pelosis and these Schumers and stuff.
Because they held on too tightly. They distributed their power
to their brady corrupt little children, and their children are

(19:31):
pieces of crap, not fit for public service. So people
like Pelosi, Schumer, all of them, Biden, Trump, these are
seventy five year old people. There is nothing new since
the year two thousand and we have to do better.
Even Elon Musk is a fifty year old man. Where
are all the young people? People like me? And you

(19:51):
should be hearing new ideas from these twenty year olds
all day, but we don't.

Speaker 1 (19:55):
Yes, you're right on. Now, where do you think that
leaves them? I had get the sense that they're losing
in a huge way. With the amount of people turning
around and realizing that everything is bullshit. That's a huge
indicator to me that they're making many mistakes and they're
gonna lose. I just don't know what else they could

(20:17):
throw out there. You know, everything's failing. Omicron failed. Now
the whole putin Ukraine's scare tactic is failing miserably as well.
I mean, I don't know if they expected people to
crawl under their desks and wait for nuclear bombs to hit.
But people don't care anymore. They're not falling for the bullshit. Yes,
there's a select bunch, huge amount of people that do

(20:39):
and will just follow the narratives blindly, but even some
of those people are coming online and being like, wait
a second, you know so I think they've lost, and
it's just a matter of time before it all crumbles
before them, because like you said that, it's all a
bunch of ancient motherfuckers trying to perpetuate this shit. And
I don't think they have a leg to stand on.

(21:00):
I don't know what about you.

Speaker 2 (21:03):
Yeah, absolutely, I don't think. I don't think it's not
a matter of you know, we hear in our community
a lot that they can't create. That these people can't create.
They can just like twist and manipulate like the art
cons These reptilians, I think they can create. The devil
can quote scripture, The Kings edited the Bible and they
you know, so it's not really a matter of like creation.

(21:27):
But they are this whole realm and these elites rely on.
It's all like a novel game simulation where the best
the Romans build the concrete, the best concrete, and then
they collect that. And whether they're living in these advanced
civilizations and hollow Earth or beyond the ice wall and

(21:48):
that's where our rockets are going, I don't know. But
they seem to be getting all of the good stuff
and silencing it, which to me means they're taking it
they're stealing it for themselves. You know, it's not just
being destroyed. They go in that people like Donald Trump's
uncle are the ones who go in and get Nikola

(22:09):
Tesla's work. And if he's a good guy, then why
didn't someone like his uncle help him out to release
all this stuff and get it going right? They were millionaires, billionaires.
Why wasn't Trump Elon Musk if his uncle got Nikola
Tesla's stuff. So to me, it's not a matter of
getting destroyed, and it's not here. We just don't see it.

(22:30):
So I don't think that they really care whether they
really have arrived at the point technologically to where the
people like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos can, you know,
blast off beyond the ice wall and leave us all.
The easiest way to hide your evil air is to
erase it from the maps, you know, wrap the ball

(22:51):
around the globe, tell us nothing's there, and they all
could be living the high life and we would have
no idea what we saw with Russia and Ukraine with
this call to wipe out their internet and then give
them Elon Musk's starlink. If he was a good guy,
we would be communicating directly with the Ukrainians. It would

(23:14):
be we would be seeing lots of footage from the Ukrainians.
It wasn't to get information in or out, it was
to keep it there. And I believe by the year
twenty twenty five, we will probably have two parallel internets,
at least one with Russia and China and one with Starlink,
and that will be us, the whole great reset, All

(23:36):
of us will be you know, the United Nations will
all be on a Starlink satellite system satalloons, you know,
and that will be by the year twenty twenty five,
will also be on a central bank digital currency. And
those are the movies that we're seeing now. Those are
the preparations now the black mirrors that we've seen in
the last two years, the Gerard Butler with Greenland and Geostorm,

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and whether they're going to wipe us out with natural
disasters like the island nation of Tonga, who was hit
with you know, like a thousand lightning strikes within twenty
four hours of saying they're going to take bitcoin as
legal tender and it erupted those volcanoes. Yeah, that's what
we're going to see. The more of us that rise

(24:21):
up and say I'm out. There's a due right there
to light the Kim Trail forests on fire. And it's
just like the great fires that went around in the
eighteen hundreds during those great resets. There's one way out
of this situation, and it's either head on with revolution
and it will be crazy, but will actually battle the

(24:46):
bad guys, or it's war with another disenfranchised, dis info
brain dead fully boosted army across the pond in another
theater of war like World War two, was to justify
more migration of people, more destruction of land and evidence,

(25:10):
and they'll repopulate us with the children. I mean, they've
already corrupted our genetics.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Yeah, I think I think you're spot on. And you
mentioned sort of weather wars. I think it's totally one
hundred percent believe that the next agenda, the next big agenda,
is going to be climate change. And I do completely
believe that they can control the weather and maybe cause
earthquakes and natural disasters and trigger volcanoes. I believe they

(25:39):
had the technology to do all of that, and I
completely believe that they one hundred percent would and they
would implement it to.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
Fool the people.

Speaker 1 (25:50):
Into thinking that there's something naturally happening with our climate
change or that we cause it, of course with our
greenhouse gases and all that other bullshit. But I think
that's that we're gonna see coming up next. We'll probably
see power outages in random locations saying that the power
grid can't hold up to climate change, so we got
to go to a new centralized power grid and that

(26:12):
way they control all the power all the time. And
that along with things like you said, like causing weather
disturbances possibly earthquakes. So what do you think about that?
Do you think that could be the next big agenda
as well?

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Absolutely, you're right on the money. I mean we know
this there. When they run these simulations like the Spars
document or Event two one, they're also simultaneously running cyber
pandemic scenarios, while simultaneously running asteroid impact scenarios, while simultaneously

(26:51):
running FEMA disasters. So they gain all these scenarios in
a fun weekend watch. If you if you guys are
gonna hang out this weekend, go get you a two
for one of Gerard Butler in Geo Storm and follow
that up with Greenland, because in my opinion, that's exactly
what you're talking about. They disclosed in that movie, Hey,

(27:13):
we have satellites and I forget what they call his satellite,
and I think his name's Jake in it too, but
he's they're shooting these lasers and they're controlling the weather
because climate change in the year twenty thirty got so
bad that Gretathunberg had to destroy all human population. And
it's they justify this stuff as long as there's a hero,

(27:34):
right that it's okay. And that's what they do through
all of those movies. They give you these apocalyptic scenarios
and make these meathead chads out there believe they're gonna
be Gerard Butler even though they've never even heard about
harp So, but they accept it because they're like, I
can't wait till zombies show up. Bro, I'm gonna get

(27:55):
my sword and like, chomp off my mom's head. Like no,
you haven't even thought about this, because you're fully boosted,
you'll be the zombie. But when you watch Geostorm and Greenland,
they start just like what we've seen, the Paradise fires,
fires wiping out Australia and then now if you look

(28:16):
in Australia. There's floods going on right now. There's twenty
six million people in Shanghai lockdown. They're Shanghais, and Shanghai
they got ghost cities waiting for all their children after
they all starve. They've had these ghost cities for years.
None of us really knew what they were for. We
know now, and after they wipe out the cities that

(28:38):
they've corralled us in these coastline cities like Los Angeles,
I believe within this year, before twenty twenty five, we
will see a artificially instigated natural disaster happen at the
Golden Gate Bridge. That's all in our imagery. One also

(28:59):
at the Seattle Space Needle that's all over the place.
Like movies, even recent movies like the remake of Red Dawn,
they attack the Russians and stuff, they attack the space needle.
So and then New York City will definitely be hit
by some type of tidle wave. You see this in
almost every movie. You see asteroid impacts in Florida, you

(29:19):
see outbreaks in Atlanta, you see tsunamis in la and
tsunamis or freezing like the Day after Tomorrow, and shit,
they are going to do this. That's why they have
things like Vault seven and where they have seed stores.
That's probably where all of our fertility crap has always

(29:41):
been geared towards as some future Mangola plan to repopulate
the Earth with only specific strands of DNA to wipe out,
probably the RH positive and all of the line from
Noah and not the line from Shim's wife who was
pregnant when she got on the ship. And then after

(30:02):
you're done watching the geostorm, after they're done destroying all
of our land and all of our areas, watching movie
like Greenland. And in this movie, Gerard Butler is lucky
enough to get the lottery to go to Greenland while
everybody else gets to die. Right, he's such a great guy.
He's like, yeah, sure, I'll take it. So he kills

(30:23):
a couple of people on way to get his family
away from this asteroid because that's what he roes do.
And you got to wonder how did they know? You know,
they say, well, he was an engineer or whatever and
he built this. Now they didn't. They weren't going to
accept his kid. They had to sneak him on. And
because he was a diabetic or an asthmatic. They have
been doing this through twenty three and meters ancestry dot com,

(30:48):
through all those COVID swabs where they were harvesting genetic material,
everything we've sent in, every test that's been put in
these databases to plan for or who will populate the
world going forward. They will tell you right there, no,
we know who you are, we know who's important, we
know who we'll call. And if you weren't included in

(31:11):
the essential workers last time, good luck on this next
go round. Good luck all of the businesses that barely
skated by. Wait till you're on a Shanghai lockdown. Wait
till the wave of Avian flu they're talking about, or
maybe Marburg or Ebola comes and or maybe it's just
five G weaponry mixed with sonic warfare activating the graphene

(31:37):
and all the other crap that's been injected into these people.
You hit them with an MRI machine, you might see
some weird effects because of all the magnetic properties involved.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
You know, Corey, my producer, was just doing some research
and we were talking on Day zero last week. He's
trying to look into this that in certain public places
that if you and your Bluetooth on. All these Mac
addresses will pop up and supposedly they've been connected to
people who have gotten the Jabbi jab and they've got

(32:08):
some kind of technology in there that connects to let's
be able to connect via Bluetooth. I don't know if
you've heard anything about that. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (32:16):
I think it's definitely the case. So I have a
good friend and I got to give him props. He
he had a really good thought or a theory that
you know you're even you're you're a musician, But say
like your computers. I don't know if you've ever built
a computer, but if you got a hard drive and

(32:37):
then you got a modem, and then you got a
screen and a battery, and you got all these components
one by one, they would mean nothing one by one.
If I was building a table, you wouldn't It would
just say this is a piece of wood. You want
to know it was a leg to a table. In
my opinion, that's what we're seeing with these shots and

(33:01):
their boosters, is that maybe you get the magnetic qualities first,
and then the second shot you're getting a new type
of thing, and then the booster is the five G
then the next booster is the bluetooth. So in that way,

(33:21):
to me, it makes sense if I were trying to
hide my that's what a murderer would do, you know,
they would do it in a way where if you
look at one piece at a time, it would make
no sense. And like for all the people out there,
they're like, it's just a coincidence that Bill Gates stumbled
and said he wants ninety five percent to die. No,
there are no coincidences. That's what detectives are. Foreign movies,

(33:44):
if a detective walked up to the scene and he
was just a homeless guy and he's like that person
fell bumped their head and this piano fell on him,
you'd be like, no way. But if the guy's got
a detective badge, you believe it. It's because people can
see or know whether he was a witness or not,
that there were circumstances you're not aware of. And I
believe that's happening with these drug companies, Pfiser Moderna. I

(34:10):
think they're all the same thing in the way that America,
you know, the United States, the Corporation of the United States,
is the same as Canada, a franchise, sister company of
the Crown, and through making us believe that they're separate identities,
guys as shell corporations, that when they cut off one,

(34:32):
you know, tentacle or head of the hydra, that we
think the fight is over. When it doesn't matter if
it's a Pfeiser or a Moderna or a Johnson and Johnson.
They will tell you themselves, it doesn't matter which one
you choose, mix them all together. Out of three or
four vaccines. They've never said there's one that's better, one
that's worse, one that's the least effective. They say, mix

(34:54):
them all up. And there's a reason for that because
when people start to get these vades and they're on
pax Lovid, which is COVID's new anti viral pill, I
mean Afvisor's new Covid anti viral pill called Ritana vere Rittana,
look it up. It's the AIDS met that Charlie Sheen took.
So when everybody starts getting vaccine induced AIDS and is

(35:17):
taking a AIDS medication, they won't know if it was
my Pfizer, if it was my Johnson and Johnson, if
it was my Astrazenica and they won't know if it
was this clinic that did it or that doctor that
did it. It's all just another shell game like nine

(35:38):
to eleven, where it doesn't matter if it's a bluebeam
or a drone or explosives or ADU weapon. It's probably
all of them, and it's the components of each of them.
So that way they could easily point to one if
they need to and say, yep, that was it. Open
shut case it was Stephen Paddock at the Las Vegas shooting.

(35:58):
It's done.

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Let's talk about the topic that you brought up earlier,
which I've not really looked into it much. I've heard
a little bit about the Cobra COVID connection. But tell
us a little bit about what you know about that.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
All right. So you know, for anybody who hasn't heard
me in our discussions before or doesn't know my history,
I'm thirty five years old. I've been a firefighter paramedic
since i was twenty years old. I work every third day.
I of course have to take pharmacology and medical terminology.

(36:34):
So you know, people like to naysay us and act
like we don't know. They act like because they've got
a degree and they spent the last two years learning
their education on zoom meetings that we can't learn on YouTube,
and we can't learn through the same books that we
can purchase on eBay that they use in their college courses.
We can so just even through the language alone, everything

(36:58):
to do with virusism vaccines are tied to snakes and serpents. Now,
this was brought into the mass consciousness by Stu Peters
recently on that documentary watched the Water. Anybody who thinks
that we got it figured out and yes, it's definitely
snake venom and they're putting snake venom and everything, blah blah blah,

(37:20):
you're already wrong. It's like we just talked about. It's
a mixture of all of it. There's graphine, there's nanites,
there's luciferase, there's a eighty five shell spike protein, there's
snake venom, there's probably bat DNA. There's a lot of
this now. About two weeks ago, I put a video

(37:41):
on my TikTok channel regarding this word etymology and vaccines
and viruses. For some reason, to me, I just started
listening to what people were saying that you're shedding both
snakes shed their skin. Not only is it fitting that
you and I are talking on an Apple phone with
a bite out of it that was sold for six

(38:03):
hundred and sixty six dollars because these people are weirdly
superstitious in an autistic type of way. They also, of
course would give us our healthcare system based on a
serpent wrapped around to staff, and we'd have never gotten
away from that idea. That are a snake is how

(38:26):
we get cured, and we're just in like nineteen eighty four,
our healthcare system is sick care system. Now, vaccines, inoculation,
that all started with snakes when Buddhist monks way way
way back started drinking snake venom in order to make

(38:47):
themselves immunized to a snake bite. Now, in the first
century AD, a Roman dude named Celsis invented a syringe.
A syringe was modeled. If anybody that's used one, you know,
it's like you got the syringe, but then on top
of it you got a plunger. So not only do
you have the needle. But in the first century, of

(39:09):
course it's a Roman he created the plunger, which he
got from a snake. How they don't always inject the venom.
You know, they could buy it and they could choose
when to actuate the glands that inject the venom. So
he studied a snake and he gave us the syringe.
The syringe is named after Syrynx, which is a Greek

(39:30):
nymph who Pan, of course, pandemic Pan, the goat god,
the Baphomet, the steeler of children like Peter Pan of
the Lost Boys. Of course it's Pan. Pan chases this nymph,
which a nymph is like a child, chases this child
named Syrynx into the forest. She trans you know, transmutes

(39:55):
herself into a reed, a river reed, and Pan, the
good guy that he is, comes along and chops her
down and starts blowing through her like a pipe. So
the name syringe literally means Pans flute, and it's after
him blowing in a pipe. Now you and I know
what Pan is, We know what he represents. He is

(40:17):
the same archetype as the Baphomet that the Hollywood elite
sell their soul to, that they try to get people
to change into these androgynists, sectless beings that will mutilate
their body in the name of science. And now Stu
Peters with this cobra connection. He attacked it from a

(40:39):
different angle. And it's like I said, I put this
stuff on my page two weeks ago. So it's funny
to me how our consciousness we all tune in on
the same things. Like a couple of weeks ago, I
was talking about how one of the first viruses, I think,
the first and the virus that everything is based off of, guys,

(41:00):
is a smallpox virus. It's from cows. The first you
know inoculations, William Pastor creating all this shit, it was
virus theory all based off of cowls. The elites think
we're cows, think we're cattle, just like first clone was
a sheep, because that's what they think we are. But
they would take this cowpox and rub it in the wounds.

(41:22):
In that way, they wouldn't get cowpox or smallpox. That's
the first weaponized virus. We gave it to the Indians, supposedly,
that's how we've always wiped out people. Is this vox virus.
The vox virus is the vercell or vericella virus, which
is the herpes virus. What is it called? When you
study serpents or snakes or reptiles. It's called herpetology. That's

(41:46):
because herpes is a scally virus, and it's also called
the epstein Bar virus. Not only was Jeffrey Epstein heavily
into sexual perversions, science and genetic manipulation, he was hired
at the Dalton School by none other than William Barr's father.
So it's very interesting that a virus like herpes is

(42:07):
named the epstein Bar virus. So every virus, including coronavirus,
is modeled off of this smallpox virus, which again originates
to snakes through herpetology. Herpes. Now that SARS CoV two virus,
if you look into it this I just recently found

(42:28):
this out today. Go look at what SARS CoV one is.
We're on nineteen. SARS CoV one first showed up in
twenty twelve. You know how they say, oh it's been
around for a while. Yeah, it showed up in twenty twelve.
You know what they call it, the Middle East syndrome
or Middle East virus. I wonder if that's because we
were spraying it and weaponizing it against those people that

(42:50):
we were trying to destroy and take their land. Maybe
it was. But if you look into it. It's specifically
tailored to people of Middle Eastern descent, and it's only
in the areas that we went and invaded. So, in
my opinion, from SARS COVID one to the Middle East
to SARS COVID nineteen to where we're at right now,
they have all been upgrades, like our phone updates of

(43:14):
the same weaponized virus that goes all the way back
to snakes and serpents. Now, this guy doctor artist that
went on Stu Peters, what he found is that there
are nineteen proteins or kind of components in a snake

(43:34):
venom primarily king Kobra venom that caused the same exact
symptoms as covid supposedly, or the spike protein or even
from the vaccine. These even if anybody goes looks at it,
if you google like drugs that work against snake venom poisoning,
not injection, not a snake bite snake venom poisoning, you

(43:58):
will find the drugs are hydroxy chloroquin ivermectin, NAC, all
the things that we've been treating people with. And there's
also like a Blacklist episode where James Spader gets he's
talking about it he's like, this is the oldest form
of weaponry is snake venom, and when you suck out

(44:18):
a snake bite, people will lose their sense of taste
and smell for up to a year, just like the
people who got sick with COVID. Now this guy thinks
that they're dumping snake venom in the water and stuff,
and that's where he needs to do a little more
research on things like kim trails and Morgellons, because he's

(44:39):
queuing into the fact that they're repealing the Clean Water Acts,
and these CDC officials are monitoring hundreds of water stations
and water treatment facilities all over the country, saying they're
checking our poop and pea for COVID and then going
to tell us when there's an outbreak where they're putting
stuff in our water. But they've always been doing that

(45:01):
and it's not snakes, and it's whatever the heck their
orders that whatever they're dumping in there, those people don't
even know. It's whatever's out of the over three hundred
bio labs in over thirty countries and there's over thirty
eight of them in Ukraine, that's what they're dumping in
the water. It's the same thing that's being dumped in
the sky through kim trails, the same thing that's in

(45:22):
all of our food. We haven't eaten seed fruit with
seeds in it since you and I have been children, bro,
Like we've been eating GMO food. This stuff is in
all of the children. Now my children will have to
figure out who's not vaccinated just so they can have
a real human That's how crazy it's going to be

(45:43):
going forward.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
Man, it is insane indic. The real meta professional these days,
the ones that actually care about humanity and that are
looking into underlying causes, terrain theory, things that actually help
people with their health and wellness. The whole medical industry

(46:06):
and pharmaceutical system is to basically keep people in a
perpetual state of unhealthiness. That's the only reason that they exist.
All we need to be healthy human beings is a
good diet and energy and sunlight, and that's it an exercise.

(46:28):
Everything else is poisoning us. The medicines they're giving us,
the pharmaceuticals, the food, everything is to keep us in
a state of unhealthiness. And all we have to do
is break free from what they're providing us and provide
ourselves with nutrition and sunlight and exercise, and we would

(46:49):
be perfectly fine. And I'm sure our lifespan and the
life span of ancient humans is far greater than they
would ever want us to realize.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
Yeah. Absolutely, They've been cutting down giant trees and telling
us they're mountains, and they've been destroying giants and killing
giants and getting us little creatures of the past to
believe that they were cannibals are going to eat us
or whatever. But they've been wiping out all of us
and making us worse, smaller, shorter living versions of the

(47:21):
Methuselahs of the Bible, you know, these beings in the
Bible that lived nine hundred years. Something strange is going on.
It's just like how we are in the days of Noah.
If anybody wants to say we're not tell me who
gives you the news on the hurricanes, because it's the
National Oceanic Advisory Agency or whatever, which is Noah. It's

(47:45):
the acronym of Noah. They're still telling us a flood
is coming, So that way, when they do tell you, hey,
you guys are about to get hit by a tsunami.
Over on the gate bridge, Noah will still tell you.
So they are wiping us out. They're destroying us through
our diets, through everything we eat. All you have to
do like what we do. We're not claravoyance, we're not channelers,

(48:08):
we're not Dolores Cannon. All you got to do is
go to the World Economic Forum or any of these NGOs,
non governmental organizations, these groups of elite, like the World
Economic From and see what they say themselves. And they
themselves say, this is the fourth turning, this is the

(48:30):
great reset, This is the opportunity we've been waiting for,
for the turnover into our new system going forward. Even
Biden himself says, we had a liberal new world order,
but that is over and we want to lead the
new world order going forward. So it's strange, but people

(48:54):
like you and I know they want us unhealthy and unhappy.
So we're ready to plug into whatever black box virtual
reality metaverse they give us. And if anybody thinks it's
gonna be good, crypto like cryptocurrency means dead, the metaverse
means dead. Everything they give you is telling you this

(49:19):
is death, digital death. I'm not going in for the upload.
I don't want to be stuck in this and their algorithms,
are you kidding me? No matter how bad they try
to make God's code and the source code, it will never,
never be worse than what they're building their Babylon, their

(49:39):
digital dystopia. So unfortunately, we do have to go back
to basics if we're going to get out of here alive.
Like what you said, Like Superman. They tell us this Superman,
he was from the House of l He was cal
l l is yahweh. Superman got his charge and his

(50:01):
power from the sun. His fortress was in Antarctica, at
the Fortress of Solitude, and all their information was stored
on crystals. That's what we all should be doing. We
need to, if anything else, prepare for problems, Prepare for
weather disaster, Prepare for communications blackouts, wiping out every system

(50:27):
that you thought was sound, including your retirement. If you
do that, you might be one of the lucky ones
that get to recede the Earth going forward. But at
this point, you want to know they're in lockstep all
around the world. It doesn't matter what the truckers do.
Trudeau will continue to castrate everybody like the castro that

(50:52):
he is, and Biden will do the same, so we
have to prepare. We cannot imagine that a Stu Peters
documentary will change the path of the pandemic or the
grifters in this great reset. They are walking in lockstep.

(51:12):
Everything we see is like in Australia, Canada, America is
just a couple months behind. We've been a couple months
behind this whole time. So I don't see Australia rising up.
I didn't see Canada beating back Trudeau, and I don't
see America doing it either. So unfortunately, it's up to

(51:34):
each of us to listen. And you know, people like you,
I think are people always ask me, you know, in
comments and stuff like how do you find this out?
Who do I go go to?

Speaker 3 (51:48):
Well?

Speaker 2 (51:49):
One, always one, trust yourself. Listen to the mainstream media
so you know the agendas that they're trying to warn
you about, and then go to channels like yours where
and there's a lot of you know this, like, there's
a lot of good channels out there in alternative media
that are just interviewing experts. Because even someone like you,

(52:10):
what we were saying before, the people that were on
our team before, doctors and everybody will start speaking out
and the only places that are going to go are
platforms like this because they're the only ones left. They're
the only ones that aren't bought out. You know this,
Even the main ones on YouTube that used to be good,
even someone like Joe Rogan is bought out to a

(52:32):
certain extent. And Alex Jones, I'm thankful for all of
his work. I'm not a hater, but that they catch
a certain fish and smaller platforms will catch these more
real and local voices. Then you'll see on Tucker Carlson.

(52:53):
So if you want to know what's going on in
Australia or New Zealand, listen to Max Egan. If you
want to know what's going on in the USA, listen
to one like you. And because that's where that's where
the people that need to get this stuff off their
chests are going to go. They're not showing up to
the mainstream media. There has never been a doctor that's
talked about the efficacy of these shots. It's always the

(53:13):
news anchors right on.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
Man, you're spot on with that, based on your own
personal insights and experience, And now I know I have
my own and my own beliefs on this and my
own experiences with this. Do you think that there are
entities or ancestors, are interdimensional beings or some types of

(53:36):
benevolent energy that is on the side of natural humankind
and divinity that is guiding us in a certain direction.
And I have a feeling that these entities and this
powerful consciousness is not going to allow what the outcome

(54:03):
that these elites desire. And I want to get your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
I am optimistic in the sense that I've seen over
two hundred dead people. I've tried to save over one
hundred people. I know no one is getting out of
this alive. And unfortunately, when you read the script of
this reality, our user manual called the Bible their playbook,

(54:32):
you realize that the good die, they die martyrs. They
don't die a meaningless death in a hospital bed, saying
goodbye on an iPad. Hell no, they don't. They die
on their feet, pin to the cross, knowing that those
same people that pin them to the cross will push

(54:53):
that cross to be worshiped later in his name. That's
the truth of this reality, is that you have to
first die to this world through dark knights of the
soul and ego death, whether that's through traumatic experiences, awakenings, downloads,
or hallucinogenic trips. Once you die to this reality and

(55:17):
you see through the illusion, unfortunately, the next phase is
to die a worthy death. Is it's to enter the
halls of Valhalla type shit. And the only way to
do that is on your feet, speaking the truth without fear,
with love, knowing that that is our mission, that our

(55:40):
mission has always been one of inner transformation and transmutation.
Christ is the same word as crystal. These are symbols
of a symmetrical fratal of divinity, of what we could
look like if we put all of our broken pieces

(56:03):
together in a crystalline structure and we got the same
anointing and we lived a Christ died life. So it
doesn't matter if you decide you want to follow Buddha
or Jesus or sad Guru or just worship crystals. None

(56:24):
of that matters. They're all archetypal representations of the divine.
They're tied intrinsically through their symbol, their etymology, their numbers,
their jamatria. When you know that their message has always
been this is a battle, a spiritual battle. It's an

(56:46):
inward one that Jesus he doesn't become Bill Gates. Bill Gates.
Those are the ones that get their tables flipped over.
They're the ones that he's upsetting their order. Guys. So
if anyone thinks that the path to enlightenment will be
a good one in a fallen world, that's they're not

(57:08):
ready for the fight. Unfortunately, people like you and me
know that all of that shit. You know, like, I'm
a guitar player. See your guitar back there. There'll be
a guitar in the next reality we go to. The
next thing you find with strings on it, you figure
out how to play it. That guitar is nothing. It's
the same as a rock or a piece of wood.

(57:28):
It's all just this material. Once you detach from that reality,
I think you're ready to enter the fight and enter
the arena that we're in right now. And that's one
that no matter what they take from you, no matter
what they hold over your head, you stand your ground

(57:48):
and you stand in truth, and you never make that
choice to make a deal with the devil. You never
kill your neighbor, you never abandon your children. Never. To me,
that's where we're at right now. The rubber has met
the road. You and I are no longer theorists, where
it's become an activist type of role, where if you're

(58:08):
not speaking out, you are part of the problem.

Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yes, man very well said spot on, let's end on this.
I've been speaking with other researchers about this, and I
find this fascinating, although you know, I don't think anything
is definite one hundred percent, and my mind is always
open and probably will change the way I feel about

(58:34):
things within the next maybe our day, but who knows.
Right now. This is one of the things I'm considering
is that what we think are extraterrestrials are aliens. Are
these gray beings that are coming to visit people and
abduct people and giving them messages about their future and
how we're not doing too well in the future. Could
be us that have advanced through this transhuman future and

(58:58):
went the wrong direction and altered ourselves and hooked ourselves
to biology and now look like these little, weird gray aliens,
and we're coming back to warn ourselves. Don't chop your
dicks off, guys, don't do it. It's not a good idea.
I don't know, what do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (59:13):
Oh man, that just gave me one like epiphany something
we were just talking. It was the chop and the
dix off that got me. No, but no, seriously, you know,
because I pay attention like you. We've been in this
game for a long time when I still believed in
space and everything. I'm like, oh, there's aliens. I've been
abducted twice. I've had two abduction experiences. Now I'm like,

(59:36):
they're probably my lab stuff. So someone right that looks
into all this, follows people like Jack Ballet, Billy Meyer,
and then Bob Lazaar. You realize that it's strange the
alien ships. If they're from light years away in galaxies
far far away, their technology and their ships wouldn't change

(59:58):
in concordance with are technology. Now. If you look at
old pictures of UFOs, whether you want to believe them
or not, but the official documented ones, they have incandescent
light bulbs. They are built out of aluminum and certain
alloys that nowadays when you see the ones over Beijing
and China, they're a higher tech. They have halogen light,

(01:00:19):
they have LEDs. They are made out of a more
refractory type of material where they refract light and you
can barely see them like the kintrail planes where sometimes
they seem to disappear like fractals. So to me, it's
either a breakaway civilization, a high civilization, and it could

(01:00:41):
even be benevolent that have been doing this, like you said,
like a future almost warning factor, where there's one truth
about this alien agenda, and that's it revolves around genetic
harvesting and sexual compatibility, sexual research, I would say, like

(01:01:03):
hybrid programs, and it always has to do with sex
reproduction and genetic harvesting. Of course, the first things that
we saw that were exanguinated or drained of blood and
everything were cows. They were cattle, livestock, goyam. They were us.
They were telling you right then and there we're going

(01:01:24):
to just like smallpox and viruses and vaccines were starting
with the cows and eventually we'll get to you. So
way back in the day we saw a lot of
cows get it worked on, and then they moved to us. Now,
if through the manipulation of our genes, the genesis of
our genetics are DNA, if they are injecting us with

(01:01:48):
the serpent the line of cane and destroying our genetics,
that would be a way to receive the Earth and
to repopulate us going forward would forward with a uncorrupted
genie because they were harvesting these materials and having these
hybrids and kids before these COVID shots ever entered us.

(01:02:12):
So it is a possibility that they were storing our
data because they're like, don't do this, this is bad.
We already know what this is going, so they were
warning us and taking this at the same time. Meanwhile,
we think it's for bad reasons because our governments are
piggybacking off of these same systems that they're reverse engineering

(01:02:34):
and doing it to create the things that will kill us. Right,
it's like this time travel paradox where you can't you
can't change them from corrupting us, but you can harvest
the DNA and tandem with them because you harvesting them
creates them, gives them the technology through something like roswell

(01:02:55):
to start harvesting it themselves. Now, the part that you
gave me epiphany it was, was this future timeline thing.
You and I both know there's stories about the Nazis
and their experiments going forward, and that's one of these
alpha draconian Reptilian type programs. As these Nazis from a

(01:03:17):
future timeline. Now I'm not sure if that's the case,
but what I will say is it is proven scientifically
that you can send a signal back in time that
we haven't figured out how to transmit matter through time,
but we have figured out how to transmit signals, radio

(01:03:37):
frequencies and shit through time. This has proven. Anybody could
look it up. So they say, like, if someone like
Nikola Tesla built a Tesla tower that was capable of
receiving a certain transmission, say at like three six nine
hurts or something, he could receive a transmission that could
be seemingly pleaed in or But it's a few transmission

(01:04:01):
of future advanced technology being transmitted back through space time
through somebody like Nikola Tesla that builds the correct antenna. Now,
if we built biobo antennas known as grays, if we
built little android weirdos that were able to receive a
future transmission to warn us about events and tell us

(01:04:24):
about the things to come, that would be the only
realistic possibility of transmitting signals to us from a future
point in time. And there's a lot of data and
studies on that, so I think that could be possible.
These grays could be types of drones receiving consciousness transmissions,

(01:04:49):
you know what I mean, like piloted like an RC
car from a future timeline. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:04:54):
Wow, man, that's a that's a definitely fascinating thought. I'm
going to be thinking on that one tonight for sure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:01):
Jake.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
This was awesome. There's so much more that we could
get into. I definitely want to get into the aspects
of the deception of space next time we talk, because
that's a whole show by itself, and I think we
could go deep on that one for sure. But brother,
thank you so much for coming on. Before you head out,
let everyone in the audience know where they can find
your work, YouTube channel, social media, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah, I'm on YouTube. Anything you search for the one
hundredth Monkey Jake Parsons, you should be able to find me.
Whether it's YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, Instagram. Yeah, the one hundredth
Monkey Jake Parsons.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
Perfect well, Jake. Like I said, would definitely be talking
to you again soon in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:05:41):
Yeah, thanks bro, for sure.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
Man. Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening and
we'll be talking again tomorrow. See you then. Today, I
want to welcome back to the show, Charles Christian. He
is an English barrister, turn writer, podcaster, award winning tech
journalist and sometimes we're wolf hunter. He now writes, talks
and makes videos mainly about folklore, urban myths, history and

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the weird. Charles, Welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:06:12):
I'm doing fine. Good to be back talking to you again, Chris,
and always enjoy our talks definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:06:17):
I've been looking forward to this as well. Last time
you're on, we got into some fascinating folklore from England,
and we're gonna go even deeper today. Some of the
things I'm excited to hear about are of course more
about were wolves, zombies and vampires, and now you're working
on a book about witches and sorcerers, which I'm very
excited to hear about, as well as let's get into

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some more obscure stuff like green skinned fairy folk head,
let's go screaming skulls, ancient warlords and maybe a park
and eating dragon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
Who knows.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
But it's been a while since you've been on, and
i'd like you to remind the audience a little bit
about yourself and what brought you to this research.

Speaker 3 (01:06:57):
Right well, back when I had a day job. I
was a journalist and used to write a lot of
really heavy stuff. But I'd always had a fascination with
what we'd broadly called the paranormal from university days, and

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I used to go ghost hunting and things like that
a long, long time ago. And in recent years I've
been able to escape from the nine till five and
now writing and investigating and looking into stuff that fascinates me.
And I found the stuff that I really like are

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the weird, the unusual. I suppose it's the realization that
a lot of the tales that are told they do
have some foundation. In fact, it may well have been
changed over the decades and centuries, but there was some
element truth there in the very beginning, and it's just

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scratching back to see where those elements were and where
did it come from. And I say that's one of
the things I've I find endlessly fascinating about it. And
there's just so much stuff there. The more you look,
the more you find. Yeah, I think for.

Speaker 1 (01:08:19):
Sure, almost go ahead and finish.

Speaker 3 (01:08:21):
I was going to say, you know, it's almost a
case of the more you look, the more, the more
you realize you don't know even a fraction of what's
out there, and you know, one thing leads to another,
and you follow this and you find that, then you
follow something else and you you you go on. So
I say, it's it's an endless source of fascination. For me,
it is.

Speaker 1 (01:08:41):
And that kind of leads into what I'd like to
ask about, has your perception on any of the topics
from paranormal ghosts, which is, has your perception on any
of this profoundly change since you've started looking into this,
or do you look at something completely different or in
a new aspect that that may be different than from

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when you first started.

Speaker 3 (01:09:05):
I think there has been a change in that. Possibly
I was a fairly rigid skeptic to start with and thinking, oh,
these these stories are all bunk. But then the more
I look in again, going back to that point, you know,

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the more you realize you don't know, the more I
realize there is. It's not black and white. It's not
ghosts exist or they don't exist. There's this huge gray
area in the middle where almost folklore and science meet.
And you know, you look at some of the science

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that's been followed at the moment, things like quantum physics
and things and you're almost talking about and you realize
that perhaps a lot of the older tails were scientific,
but the people at the time didn't understand the science

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and so ascribed it to supernatural forces. And we're now
starting to head that way and possibly find that a
lot of what we think of as science is actually
very hard to distinguish from the supernatural.

Speaker 1 (01:10:26):
Yes, and as well as I'm finding that over especially
even the past few years, more researchers are finding the
profound connections between paranormal activity UFO activity, which could some
might consider extra terrestrials or cryptids or ghosts, and they
seem to have these profound connections to each other. Have

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you seen the same sorts of things along the way.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
Yeah, I think there is. I mean I think one
thing is that the parrel normal, and I feel like
psychic research is no law longer perceived as unscientific and
something to be sneered at. I think the scientific community
is becoming more open minded and discussing, prepared to discuss

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these things, whereas before they were very much on their
dignity and if you believed in the paranormal then you
weren't a real scientist. And I think a lot of
scientists are now coming around to the recognition that, you know,
it's not as simple as they first thought. I mean
you mentioned cryptozoology. Every year scientists are finding more and

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more species of animals that they didn't know existed before.
I mean, you know, obviously some of them, they're not
very exciting for our point of view. They're frogs and
fish and things. But you know, we don't know everything,
and the more we go on, we're more discovering more
and more things. I mean, like those sea creatures you
see on occasional documentary is that are living by the

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plumes of hot gases coming out of the ocean beds.
You know, they're sort of they're miles down, they're living
in an apparently totally in hospitable town around inhospitable environment.
Yet they're thriving, and there's communities thriving, and you know

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that in turn is now you're start and see when
people are talking about exploring the planets and the moons
of the Solar System, they're now conceding, well, there might
be life, but you know, to use the Star Trek term,
it's it's not life as we know it, gym, but
there could still be life. They're living in frozen waters,

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subterranean lakes, and things on remote planets. And you know,
we're starting to realize that the old nineteenth and early
twentieth century reviews of science are outdated. We need to
be a lot more flexible and open minded.

Speaker 1 (01:13:03):
Yeah, and with some of the research and people that
are doing this research are very encouraging to me to
see the directions that we're headed, and the more and
more people that are actually becoming interested in looking into
this stuff is fascinating as well. So I think we're
headed into extremely important time when it comes to discovery
and what we consider the unknown or paranormal right now.

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But I want to start really with you grew up
in a haunted house. I think we touched on it
or some that had some kind of activity tell it.
Could you tell us a little bit more, give us
some details about what happened when you were growing up.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Yeah. Yeah. The house is on the by the harbor
in place called Scarborough, And like a lot of old
seafront properties, as the port was developed and wolves were built,
so the land was stabilized and they would stick more

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bits on the house. It was a very missimash of
a house. With some really old parts at the back
that we know from when my father was doing renovation
work were medieval, you know, they timbers and infill and
then a sort of a Georgian bit stuck on the front.
So it was a very peculiar house with lots of

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passageways and doors that led nowhere. And it had been
over the years sublet and split up and then joined
up again and bits added on, so it was it
defied logic as a property. And I'd say there were
some very weird things like a cellar that you accessed

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via a hidden staircase that looked like a panel and
swung away to reveal an entrance to to a cellar area,
and there was another cellar that was locked that was
blocked up. I think one element was given where it
was located. Back in the eighteenth century early nineteenth century,

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there would have been smuggling activity, and that would have
been where people stored their loot that they were smuggled in.
But with the actual property itself, there were two things.
One one of my mother's psychic friends said that she

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could hear the sound of men in large boots, heavy
boots walking around in the attic room and I'd never
heard them, and my parents hadn't, had hadn't, but we
did know that a couple of generations earlier, my would

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have been great grandmother used to provide accommodation for seafarers,
typically fishermen whose boats were caught in the harbor in
a storm and needed somewhere to stay. So she had
a load of beds up in the attic, and there

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would have been men in large boots because they wore big,
high length waders. The fishermen of those days would have
been clumping around. The Other thing was there was something
that used to shake the bottom of my bed, as
if something It was one of those beds that had
a metal frame, and it was if somebody got hold

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of the bottom end and tugged it backwards and forwards,
and it was a distinct sensation. It wasn't that kind
of feeling you get when you're falling asleep and you
think you're falling. This was a definite tug enough to
wake you up. And my parents always said it was

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the wind. But it was only years later, when we're
clearing out the house that I realized that the way
the property was laid out and the way my bed was.
It couldn't have been the wind because the wind would
have shaken the house in a slightly different way for
where the prevailing winds were. So I've never been able
to work out it, but there was definitely something that

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would just reach at the bottom of the bed tug it.
And I say, I accepted my parents' tales that it
was stories that it was just the wind, and so,
you know, it didn't actually frighten me after the first
couple of times, I just thought, Oh, it's just the wind.
But thinking back, I think there was something more to it,

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and that I was encountering some form of manifestation, but
I know not what, And of course, all history now
and it's not possible to go back and evaluated.

Speaker 1 (01:17:49):
Yeah, and the more we learn about places that have
concentrated paranormal activity, there's a few places here in the
United States that's stand out, like a Skinwalker Ranch, places
in the Uinta Basin, there's a new place called the
Meadow blind Frog Ranch, and even places like Mount Shasta

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that have just kind of this different type of energy
to it. Maybe you'll have more more UFO sightings, maybe
you'll have more paranormal activity, maybe you'll have more cryptid sightings.
But there's always these places around the world that have
these areas of high strangeness, and most of the time
they have some kind of electromagnetic strange electnotroure magnetic properties

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or interference with electronics in that area as well. What
makes me wonder is it something to do with the
maybe electromagnetic properties in the area or underground or even above.
And I'd like to get your thoughts on some of that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:48):
Hmmmm, well, I mean, just to go to your first
point about certain places have an atmosphere, you definitely get that.
And mostly in the UK we've got buildings going back
still in use fifteen hundred years plus, you know, sort

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of particularly some of churches and things that have been
built on and reused and developed onwards. And you can't
help but go into somewhere like that, or some of
the old castles that are around, and some of them
are still in quite good condition, you know, and still
got all the rooms in them and things, and you

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cannot help but feel there's an atmosphere there. And they're
so steeped in history, an awful lot of bloody history
as well, and you know, terrible things happened in those
properties that you know, there is an aura about them,
there is a feel about them, and you know, the
classic one in the UK is obviously Stonehenge, you know,

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and there are a number of other Neolithic properties where
the sun really does shine through a particular stone or
in a particular direction on the longest day or the
shortest day. And you know, that's really putting yourself in
touch with your ancestors, because we're going back then, you know,
four thousand years and people have been there treating it

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as a sacred site for that long. You know, it
can't help but have that vibration to it and feel
to it. But of course the chicken and egg question
is does it have this atmosphere because people have been
going there for so long or was it built there
in the first place because there were already an atmosphere
to it. And you know, in the UK the idea

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of lay lines is very much following that principle when
you look at some of the lays and the directions
they go, and there are so many historic buildings of
different eras built on them, you know, from standing stones
through to medieval churches and the like. Again, you know

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which came first, was it was it people detected this vibration,
this sensation there and built shrines effectively, or places to
acknowledge it and worship it. Or is it just so
many people have been there for generations, for so many

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hundreds of years, that it's built it up that way.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yeah, it's interesting to think about that. I mean, or
it could be the like you said, you mentioned the
amount of negative energy or bloodshed that may have happened
in a particular area. I know that in the US
here places like Gettysburg. People will go there and they'll
actually see a scene from the Civil War playing out
in front of their eyes, and it's not really there.

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It's just some kind of like trapped memory from that area,
probably due to the high concentration of you know, dark
energy that was released during that battle.

Speaker 3 (01:22:03):
When you think about that, I think that's entirely plausible.
I think that's entirely plausible. I mean, we're into the
idea of sort of residual hauntings or the stone tape
idea that traumatic events in a person's life, and there's
nothing more traumatic than being killed in a battle or murdered.

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Somehow embed themselves in the infrastructure, you know, a bit
like a dootype or audiotape. I mean that's a piece
of plastic with manetic material on. Yet it repeats sound,
It carries sound, and it carries images. Is it almost

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a natural form of of of a video recording that
have been seen? But certainly in the UK, there's plenty
of tales of battle scenes where on the anniversary of
the incident, sounds or images can be seen of relating

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back to the battle in the England, the Battle of
I can't remember it's Marston Moore or Nasby, but there
were two of the big battles during the English Civil
War in the seventeenth century. For a long time there
were tales that on any anniversary people could see the

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battle still taking place, and early on people could even
recognize some of the people participating in it. Yeah, that's
very fascinating.

Speaker 1 (01:23:44):
I want to get back into a little bit more
folklore about some of my favorite creatures, vampires and were wolves.
I grew up, you know, watching horror movies, watching movies vampires, Dracula,
were wolves. But the perception people have of these these
folklore creatures aren't what they originally were supposed to or

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meant to, or actually could have been it's been changed
and manipulated throughout history, and you know, of course Hollywood
has has glamorized and made it something completely different. But
I want to go back to some of the earliest
kind of cases or stories about vampires and were wolves
that we can that we can go to that point

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to the origins and the and the truth about what
these beings could have really been.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Hmmmmmm, yeah, I mean it. It is interesting because you know,
you look at were wolves and a lot make a
lot of what we now regard as were Wolf's law
can be dated back to the nineteen thirties with the

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original werewolf movies, The were Wolf of London, and I
think it was the Return of the were Wolf, and
they popularized the idea that if you shot a were
wolf with a silver bullet, the dying were wolf would
return to the human form. And I say that really

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was Hollywood scriptwriters doing it. And obviously vampire law again,
a lot of it is what we class as the
vampire is just a rerun of Bramstoker's Dracula, which is,
you know, a novel from the turn of the nineteenth

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start of the twentieth century, and you know, you encounter
people quoting as facts stuff about vampires that come from there,
you know, the idea of garlic that seems to have
been a bram Stoker original idea, but rather than anything else.
But I mean going back in time, they've existed a

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long time. I mean, you go back and there's tales
from the Roman era of creatures that would definitely qualify
as vampires. They sometimes call them slightly different names. But
the idea of creatures coming back from the dead and

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taking sustenance from the blood of the living, you know,
that's a two thousand plus year old concept and it
was very much something that in the medieval period in
Europe that people had in mind and were conscious of
and aware of and feared if you like, so, I

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mean with the medieval I did some reading studying on
this when I was writing my book on the Yorkshire
World and the concept they had they called it a revenant,
which we don't tend to use in English anymore. But
their idea was that the afterlife was really the dead

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physically coming back from the dead. So their creatures are
their revenants are really a cross between a zombie and
a were wolf, and sorry, a zombie and a vampire
and you know, their shambling creatures, you know, with decaying flesh,
but they also want blood, and that was a very

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real fear that they had, and you know, historians of
the Middle Ages wrote about them in their chronicles and
described how they would afflict towns and how that they
could only be destroyed by cutting their heads off and
cutting their hearts out, and by burning them. And the

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In the Wold's book, I took about a village there
called warren Percy, and excavations of the burials there in
the medieval Church have found about a dozen bodies that
had been ritually dismembered. And this was Christian times. They

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normally were very careful about burying people the right way,
but these were people who'd had their heads cut off
and their limbs broken in some instances their legs severed
at the knee, and then their heads placed between their legs,
usually with the face pointing downwards. And it was very

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much a medieval idea that to stop the dead from walking,
you'd do the same as you'd stop a living person
from walking. Chop off the legs. They're not going to walk.
Cut off their head, they're not going to be able
to see where they're going if you point it face
down and say it's it's it's it's a it's a
quite by our standards, a rather childish, simplistic approach, But

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for those times, that's that was the recipe, that was
the menu, and that was how you you dealt with
them and say, this is a little village in the
middle of nowhere, just a farming village, and people were
obviously sufficiently concerned about it that they took these measures

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to prevent people from from walking, you know, and from
doing it. You know, it was it was a genuine
fear as opposed to just something a few cranks might think.
And obviously the fact it was in a churchyard showed
that the church approved of that measure as well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:51):
Now, you know, aside from what Hollywood portrays and a
few conspiratorial stories about you know, blood line families that
may prey on children or whatever, we don't really see
much about vampires in our modern society as far as

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actual sightings or people coming into contact with them. But
what we do see sometimes is sightings of things that
look like dogmen or wear wolves or wolf like creatures.
Especially here in the United States, dogmen has become a
huge thing. And actually even lately we've begetn tons of

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sightings of these dog like creatures and you know, I'm
wondering you to get your thoughts on that and if
there's any connection to possibly the folklore of early were wolves.

Speaker 3 (01:30:45):
Yeah, I mean, again, I think that's a an element.

Speaker 2 (01:30:53):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
What's interesting with were wolves again, they are there's origins
and origins of them going back to Roman times, but
they're also in multiple societies. You know, Native Americans have
a culture of what we would call a were wolf.

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In African and India they have similar cultures, although the
creatures are different, and the African ones tend to be
it's not a were wolf, it's a sort of we're lion,
and in Asia it's the we'd bear, because you know

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that they are relating to the creatures that are prevalent
in their areas. So, you know, but it's the same thing,
this idea that there are creatures out there that are
half half human half monster of some form or another,
and I say multiple societies having it and over a

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very long period of time, which gain you know, adds
to the idea. It's not just some Hollywood fad that
people are you know they've they've watched the latest movie
and that they're impressed by it. That this goes back
a long long time. What the origins are I I

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have difficulty with. I mean, in the UK we have
a lot of tales of big black dogs are naturally
large ones, and certainly on the Eastern coast, which was
the area where all the Viking raiders came from. And

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of course the Vikings in their mythology, they have a
lot of wolves in them. You know, Odin used to
be accompanied by a hunting wolf. Ragnarak is all about
the you know, the end of the world is is
when a giant wolf comes and destroys everything. So there

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may well be some kind of ah, not quite race memory,
but some sort of spiritual memory that you know, large
wolf like creatures are ominous, and I mean we use
it in our normal everyday language. You know, depression is
you know, you're suffering from the black dog. So it's

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it's it's it's it's there. It's been there a long time.
This as to whether men humans could ever physically change
from being a human being into a wolf and then
back again, I think that's stretching the laws of anatomy.

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Just simply that our bone structures are different. You know,
we don't we don't just develop a longer nose. Everything
else has to change. It's it would be hard to
hard to understand that.

Speaker 1 (01:34:18):
They show you how that happens an American werewolf in London.

Speaker 3 (01:34:23):
Exactly. There's a there's a there's a woman I interviewed
for a book, and she's an anatomist, and she's written
a sort of paper on you know, all the structures
and things that have to have would have to change,
and the different things that would grow and you know,
your your bones need to grow to get different teeth
and so on. But it doesn't stop there being a

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belief that some people are can somehow, I suppose mentally
or spiritually transform themselves into a wolf and behave like
a wolf, and cite themselves up to be alike a wolf.
And again this comes back to the Vikings again where

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the berserkers, you know, they they dressed in wolf skins,
they dressed in bear skins, some of them dressed in
boar skins. They cite themselves up with alcohol drugs to
go into battle. They thought they were invincible. You hear

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read reports of them wearing no armor and being the
bravest of the brave, rushing in and terrifying everybody, acting
not like human beings, but acting like wild beasts. So,
you know, I think that is one source of you know,
something that a creature that is part man, part wolf.

Speaker 1 (01:35:53):
That reminds me of the Native American stories here of uh,
the passable battles and quarrels between the Ute and the Navajo.
That they possibly wore pelts of animals to project themselves
as wolves, and that they call themselves skin walkers. And
that's one of the legends that we have out here,

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especially associated with places like skin Walker Ranch, that there's
this curse associated with the Navajo and the Ute Native Americans.
And that's what I thought of whenever you're talking about
the the Viking is very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:36:29):
Yeah, I think that that that that is the element
of it, and I mean I touch upon it in
the Weird Wolves book. But in that area there was
an excavation of a Neolithic late dwelling and the boggy

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ground had preserved the archaeological finds very well, and you
you're talking here going back about ten thousand years, and
they found a large collection of they call them deer frontlets,
and it's basically the scull of a deer, and they've

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sworn down the horns a bit, and then they've drilled
a couple of eyes in the sort of front piece,
and there were quite clearly musks. It's the only logical
reason for them. And the thought was this was some
form of shamanistic ritual that people would do when they
were about to go hunting, that they would imbue themselves

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or take over the spirit of the creatures they were
going to go out and hunt, you know, and we
are going to be able to run and know the
way of the red deer that we are hunting, because
we have got the spirit of the red deer flowing
in us. So you know, you're looking at something that's
clearly deep down in the human mental archaeology, the psyche

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that we've had for a long time, that it is
possible to get yourself into the spirit and the behavior
of wild animals. So you know, in the circumstances, skin
walkers are perfectly plausible and you know, a logical thing

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they would do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Yeah, that's very interesting. Now, before we move, I want
to talk about your what you're working on with your
new book with witches and sorcerers. Before we move into that,
while we're still in the kind of realm of folklore creatures,
I'd like to hear about the green skinny fairy folk
alight a lot like you know, green skinny little like
maybe associated with UFO, a phenomenon of today, and you know,

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another one of those possible connections there. So what are
the green skinny fairy folk?

Speaker 3 (01:38:57):
Right? They are in a little village about thirty miles
from where I'm sitting now, just on a village called Wolfpit,
though the name is actually a derivation of wolf pit

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because they used to dig large holes and chase wolves
and trap them in there or cover the top over
so wolves would fall into them. And during the twelfth century,
so you know, eleven fifty a d. Sometime around about then,
two children were discovered wandering around a field, a young

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boy and a slightly older girl, and they both had
green skin. Neither of them spoke English or an understandable language,
and they also wore strange clothes, as in the clothing
they were wearing was not what the local people of

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that part of Suffolk war And the little boy didn't
thrive and died quite quickly. But the girl eventually learned
English and the color of her skin once she was
living on a diet of if you like, normal for

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the Timespood recovered and the tale she told was that
she came from a place called Martin's Land, which was
where the sun never shone, but there was just a
green pallor in the sky all the time, and that

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she and her brother were looking after some animals for
their parents, and they wandered through a into a cave
and came out in the field where they were found
by the locals. And you know, there's a number of

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theories what it is. You know, one it ties in
very much with the idea of fairyfolk, because there is
this idea that the fay are green that typically got
that type of coloring, and that the land of the
fay is somehow parallel to our own world, but we

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can't see it. But there are certain portals you can
pass through, such as caves and magical places, stone circles,
and you can cross between the two realms, the realm
of mankind and the other world of the fay. So,
you know, there's one idea that they may have been

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two young fay that had got lost But the other
idea is that as you say that they this was
the first recorded sighting of aliens, you know that the
green skin being for a long time was the classic
feature of aliens. I mean, we've now gone to graze

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and the slightly different facial conditions. I can see a
picture just to your left shoulder of some showing them,
But I mean before then, you know, if you go
back to the sort of golden age of science fiction
in the sort of thirties and forties, aliens were typically

(01:42:40):
a bit like us, but they were a different color.
And you know, it's it's intriguing, you know that that
it seems to tick both boxes. Were they fairies? Were
they aliens? And of course nowadays there is a suggestion
that perhaps what we regard as fairyfolk may actually be

(01:43:05):
aliens and have been aliens all along. It's just that
in by gone times, when we thought the planet Earth
was the center of everything, we assumed everything came from
the planet Earth, whereas now we accept we live in
a solar system, and there's a galaxy, and there are
gazillions of other stars and planets and the potential for

(01:43:27):
our life. And indeed, if you look at historically folklore
sightings of fairies. They've tended to tail off in recent
years since the middle of the twentieth century, and aliens,

(01:43:49):
which were all most completely unheard of before then, have
started to become the main creature people report if they
meet someone something strange encounter, it's aliens. But I say,
go back one hundred years and people would have an
alien what we'd now call an alien encounter, but they
would say it was the fairy funk. So you know,

(01:44:13):
are they the same thing that we're just putting a
different name to you, adjusting it to our concepts, because
you know, we have space travel, we have flight, they
didn't have that one hundred years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:44:29):
Yeah, it's very possible. And they have researchers that are
kind of flipping that aspect over and saying, well, maybe
these have always been spiritual beings and part of our existence,
just beyond the spectrum of our vision where we can't see,
not necessarily from different planets or different universes, different dimensions,
and you know that maybe they do try to help

(01:44:51):
humanity or trick humanity in certain ways, little trickster entities
that are definitely not what we would consider your every
day physical beings in our reality, but maybe they're physical
in another reality. It's another aspect that a lot of
people are starting to kind of look into and consider
as well. Crossing these types of uphology in paranormal tropes.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah, well, I mean fairy folk. The whole thing surrounding
fairyland is that it is in a parallel dimension to ours.
It's going on, but we can't see it except at
certain times of the year or at certain places where
the boundary between the two worlds is thinner. And you know,

(01:45:40):
the trickster side of it, a lot of that in
fairy law. The you know, the aspects of it tick
so many boxes. And the one of the things you
always hear when people are talking about encounters with the

(01:46:01):
fae is that there's a strange time difference. And you
have all these tales going way back to the Middle
Ages of people who go off step into say a
fairy ring of mushrooms on the ground, to dance with
the fairies, and they think they've only been gone a day,

(01:46:22):
and when they wake up in the morning, you know
seven years have pasted or seventy years have passed, and
the whole world's changed, and you know, everybody they knews
either died or is very old, and everybody thought they
were dead a long time ago. So there's this sort
of time element. And again when you look at some
reports of eupho abductions, there's a strange time thing that

(01:46:44):
the abductee thinks they've only been gone a short time,
but have been through a huge amount of activity in
that time. That just doesn't make sense. You know, they've
travel to an other planet in summer cases, and then
when they wake up in their bed, it's it's only

(01:47:05):
a couple of hours later. So there's this sort of
similarity between euphology and aliens and with fairyland and the
fay that you know, are they two sides of the
same thing? You know, we're we're we're giving them the

(01:47:25):
modern The modern interpretation is that the upho's the older
one was that they were the fae. And indeed, if
you take it to its logical extreme, going back to
far more ancient times, do angels fall into this same category?
You know, and I suppose we have to say our

(01:47:46):
ghosts the same thing. You know, that they are just
people who've moved on and are living in a different
dimension and manifesting in a different way.

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Yes, that is that they're all fascinating thoughts. Well, speaking
of manifesting in a different way, a couple of things
that I wanted to cover that you don't hear my.
I haven't heard much the stories of these, but it
seems terrifying. Headless ghost and screaming skulls. Now, I'm sure
these are from ancient folklore, correct.

Speaker 3 (01:48:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean the headless ghost is a very
popular idea in English folklore. The most famous one is
Anne Boleyn, who was the first of Henry the Eights
wives to be physically parted from her head. And there's

(01:48:44):
even a song from the nineteen thirties called with her
Head Tucked underneath her arm, she walks the Bloody Tower
and it's you know, it's you know, a trope that
is part of English folklore that there are headless ghosts
wandering around that you know, either have their head under

(01:49:07):
their arm or looking for their head. There's one a
battlefield up in Scotland where on the anniversary of the battle,
a particular night is seen riding round on his horse
headless because at the very start of the battle a

(01:49:28):
cannon went off and took his head away, and he's
been looking for it for the last six hundred years.
I mean, I think one of those elements is in
the sort of older Christian pre Reformation Catholic religion, there

(01:49:51):
was a bit of a belief that if you were
going to be resurrected, your body had to be in
one piece and complete, So if you did have a head,
if you were resurrected, you'd be resurrected as a headless person.
So there was quite a bit of preciousness about and
concern that your body stayed intact. I mean, as for

(01:50:11):
the screaming ghosts, I mean this is there's a number
of houses in England where this is reported, and the
one I'm familiar with there's a place called Burton Agnes
in the East Riding of Yorkshire, where a young woman

(01:50:36):
in the seventeenth century was mugged we'd use nowadays as
the term violently attacked. Died of her injuries and had
always wanted Her father at that time was building a
new home for them, a big, new, stately home, you know,

(01:50:56):
coming to money and was going up in the world,
and she always wanted to live in the new house,
so she insisted that her dying wish was that her
head be removed and kept inside the house. Not surprisingly,
her parents were terrified mortified at this suggestion, and thought

(01:51:17):
the poor girl was obviously suffering delirium from her injuries. However,
they buried her the normal way, and there was quite
clearly a ghostly presence in the house, so they reluctantly
disinterred her and found that her head had somehow miraculously

(01:51:39):
separated from the rest of her body. So they brought
it into the house and for a long time, once
it had obviously turned into a skull, they kept it
on a table in the main hall, and it was
regarded as almost a good luck trophy. It brought luck

(01:52:01):
to the house, and whenever anybody over the next two
or three hundred years, either accidentally or deliberately threw the
skull away, there would be hauntings, there would be screamings,
there would be awful sounds and clatterings and disturbances at night,

(01:52:23):
and then the head would be returned and peace would return.
And the house still exists, and the skull isn't on
public display anymore, but is in a panel in the
on the main staircase, hidden away from public viewing, and

(01:52:45):
I say all the time that the skull is there,
the family's fortune is good. And I say there are
several other properties around in England where they have almost
exactly the same story about them, that you know, there's
a skull and it's one of the founders, and bad

(01:53:08):
luck will befall the household the family if it's ever removed.
But of course this also raises going back to earlier
times the Romans, in particular, they used to bury babies

(01:53:30):
sometimes people sometimes with their heads, sometimes beheaded in the
foundations of new buildings, on the belief that they would
be a protector of the building in the future. They
would give it the afterworld protection and say, there's a

(01:53:54):
story that London Bridge, which has been changed several times
now anyway, I think the most we've got one now,
but you've got a version in Lake Havasu City. I
think you've got you've got a version of it. But
the original London Bridge. There's a nursery rhyme London Bridge

(01:54:15):
is falling down, and that definitely has an element talking
about heads in it in some of the verses, and
it's thought to be, you know, reflection of the belief
that if you were going to make a new building
somewhere by burying a child or a man in the foundations,

(01:54:43):
their spirit would protect it and bring peace to it. Indeed,
there's there's a place down in Kent called Reculver where
there's the remains of a Roman fort, and when they
were excavating it a few years ago they found human

(01:55:04):
remains at the basis of one of the gatehouses, sort
of echoing this thought that people had been sacrificed so
that in the afterlife they would be there protecting the building.
I mean for me that I always think if I'd

(01:55:25):
been sacrificed the last thing I was going to protect
your building, I want my revenge.

Speaker 1 (01:55:33):
Yeah, definitely, definitely want my head back at least. Well yeah, yeah,
well that is that's super fascinating. I want to get
into what you're working on now, which is about which
is in Sorcerer and you know from the earliest ones
I can remember, you think of Merlin Gandolf, where the
lines of real history and fiction may have been blurred

(01:55:56):
a little bit, and then you go a little bit
more recent to the characters like John Dee and Alistair
Crowley and those are you know, real ones that stick
out in my mind throughout history. Give us a little
bit of a synopsis about what you're writing about.

Speaker 3 (01:56:12):
Yeah, it's basically an almanac. We're still it's with the
publishers now and we're still working on the final title.
But it's basically an almanac of witches and sorcerers, and
it's looking at the people, the historical people, with a
bit of historical contexts in there about the times they

(01:56:37):
were living in in the background, because a lot of
the stories only make sense if you understand the legal
and religious times they're in. And I take it from
the semi legendary people like Circe and Medea who are
in the Greek legends, the witch of Endor in the Bible,

(01:57:00):
and take it through two modern times. And obviously Alista
Crowle is in there. He's got a huge section to
himself because he is such an influential character, and you know,
a lot of modern wicker is based on some of
his writings and some of his ideas. And you know,

(01:57:23):
the early you know, the mid twentieth century pioneers of
modern witchcraft and wicker, both in the United States and
in England. But you know, I again, it's one of
those fascinating things that you discover just how many people

(01:57:45):
how their witchy side to them, and the belief in
witchcraft and how it dominated thinking, and how sometimes witchcraft
was perceived as good with inverted quotes, and sometimes it
was regarded as bad. I mean you mentioned John D.

(01:58:08):
I do have a whole section on alchemists who were
out trying to find a way to convert base metals
into gold. I mean D was more interested in trying
to His idea of the Philosopher's Stone was to communicate

(01:58:33):
with angels, and he has this whole idea of Enochian
magic that stems from D. So he had, if you like,
a noble idea, sort of a philosophical idea as well
as the purely money making side of it. But for
people like him had royal patterns. In his case, it

(01:58:54):
was mainly Queen Elizabeth the first because like any government,
they want money, and if somebody can convert based metal
lead into gold, that was good for the economy. So
they were encouraged, and you know, they they they were
the good guys all the time that they were apparently

(01:59:16):
working and doing it correctly. Not sure whether any of
them actually did produce gold and whether it was not
just a bit of trickery going on there. But I mean, again,
where we were talking earlier about how science and the
para normal have come together. Scientists using atom splitters and

(01:59:48):
this you know, understanding of nuclear physics and the like,
they can now convert based metals into gold. Unfortunately, you
need real actors to do it, and it's actually cheaper
to buy gold than it is to use the process.
But you know, something that again was regarded as being

(02:00:11):
purely fictional, we now understand is something that can happen,
does happen, and is a real thing. So you know,
John d you know, is a good example of that.
But again we're coming back round to magic. Is magic

(02:00:33):
something hocus pocus? Or is it a form of science
that we don't properly understand. Is it some form of
human power sort of PSI power that's not fully understood,
that some people possess and some people can use two

(02:00:59):
some affect you know, it's it's it's it's back to
that thing. Is it magic or is it just science
that we haven't yet discovered and don't fully understand. But
I say, no, that's that's the book. I'm not sure
on publication date you'll be first to know. But uh,

(02:01:19):
we go through medieval history. It's strange, how.

Speaker 1 (02:01:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:28):
Nowadays, if somebody is involved in a campaign to ruin
someone's reputation, they'll say, oh, there were that they've been
embezzling money from the government or from the country or
for the company, or they've been involved in unnatural sexual

(02:01:52):
activities or whatever. Well, you know, going right back to
the Roman times, that was the same then. But we'd
also people would also say, and they practice witchcraft, and
I say, it's it's, it's it's it's a lovely allegation
to me, because it's very hard to prove that you
haven't come back, you aren't practicing magic. How do how
do you stand up in court and say I didn't

(02:02:14):
practice magic ten days ago. You can't do it, you know.
And and Anne Boleyn, who we mentioned earlier walking around
with her head under her arms. She was accused of
sorcery and that she duced sorcery to win the king's love.
And there was even a rumor that she had six

(02:02:35):
fingers on one hand, which is always a sign that
somebody is a witch or got supernatural powers, because it's
an abnormal thing. Although they have found her body, and
she didn't have six fingers, she only had five. But
I say it's interesting even then, you know, it was
one of the things they threw at somebody and said,

(02:02:59):
she's also a witch, you know, burn the witch. And
obviously in the book we look at the Salem witch
trials and some of the other American cases and the
background to them and the environment that caused the rise

(02:03:20):
of them, and take it through. But okay, and you know,
I was fascinated to see how there are common themes
that run through history from earliest times, you know, and
people when times are hard, typically you get allegations of witchcraft.

(02:03:41):
They peak when times are hard, when there's a famine, on,
when there's a plague, on, when things aren't going right,
when your country is being invaded by the enemy, whatever,
and people want scapegoats, and so they blame witchcraft for it.
You know, they can't admit, well, the reason we've got

(02:04:05):
crop failure is because we aren't planting our vegetables properly.
You know. It's the reason my the reason my milk
hasn't turned into butter is because a witch has looked
on it and spoiled it. You know, and it was
a very superstitious times. It was a way of avoiding

(02:04:26):
responsibility and making somebody else take the blame, put it
on a witch. And there were enough people who were terrified,
you know, of the supernatural to believe it, and that's
why you got the witch hunts of those days.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
Yeah, and you were mentioning, you know, is it just
a science that we don't understand yet or something more? Well,
there's from just from my own personal experience with you know,
manifestation and mystical things and my own personal supernatural experiences,
I have a knowing that there is something to it,

(02:05:01):
and whether it's a science we don't understand yet or
just a part of our natural existence, which I think
it probably is, that it's much there's much more to this,
and if there is, there are those out there, and
I'm pretty sure that there are members of high level
level magical orders that do appreciate and have a knowing

(02:05:25):
that this stuff is real and maybe have a bit
more knowledge of how it works and the science behind it.
And these they have people in very powerful positions. You know,
you hear the term millionaires look at astronomy and billionaires
look at astrology. So you know, I think there's definitely

(02:05:45):
something to that, and the mystical aspects of our reality
I think are being uncovered more and more every day
with you know, each thing that's that's happening to to
make people's consciousness, eyes, and people's awareness more broad, and
I think those things are occurring during this period of

(02:06:05):
time on our planet. It's very fascinating to see all
this happen right now, especially with you know, the realization
of the paranormal and UFO connections, as well as the
possibility that magic is a real type of tool that
we can use. Now, where do you think this brings

(02:06:26):
us to the future understandings of some of these concepts,
like the use of magic.

Speaker 3 (02:06:34):
Pooh. I think it's a case of we're living in
very interesting times. I mean, one of the issues with
magic is that I don't think true practitioners ever publicly
talk about it. You know, they will give you a
version of it, but it's a secret that they keep

(02:06:58):
within their own groups. They don't they don't talk about it.
So you know, there's an element of mystery there that
we we may not ever fully understand. But again, there
is there's a there's a there's a doctor at one

(02:07:19):
of the London universities who actually has a department that
is exploring the subject of magic to try and discover
what it is and how it works. And again, it's
one of those things that's starting to come and be
recognized that it's not just bunco and fake science, that

(02:07:42):
there is something to it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:44):
And also you mentioned I think characters like Alister Crowley
who had involvement with government agencies c I A project
things like Project looking Glass through throughout our Black Project
history and projects looking into time time travel and telekinesis
and psychic activity and all these government funded and in

(02:08:06):
high level organized studies on this stuff. You know, there
has to be something to it if these guys are
looking at it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:13):
Too, you know exactly. Yeah, I mean the Project looking
Glass is a fascinating area of that. And again the
idea is that these people have certain psychic powers that
enable them to do it, which comes back to the

(02:08:37):
earlier point that you know, is magic just another power
that we have that we don't fully recognize and can't
most people can't control or manipulate. No. I, it is
very very intriguing, and I say, Alista Crowley is such

(02:08:59):
a strange character, and I mean he worked for the
British security services in the First World War and to
an extent in the Second World War, and even worked
with Ian Fleming, who you know went on to write
the James Bond novels. So that there is this, there

(02:09:21):
is this overlap, and you know, there's there's Jack Parsons,
who was an early pioneer of rocketry in North America
and he was a firm believer in Crowley type magical forces.
And he died in very mysterious circumstances which may have

(02:09:44):
been purely an accident or it may have been a murder,
and there is one suggestion it was he was killed
by American security services who were concerned he was going
to leave the kind of and take his secrets with him.
You know, he was talking about possibly going to work

(02:10:05):
for the Israelis and the nineteen fifties, so you know
that there's there's lots there's lots of mysteries out there,
and we're no closer to finding the definitive answer. I
think that's why it's so endlessly fascinating, because there isn't

(02:10:26):
a simple answer to it, and you know, we may
never find all the answers, but you know, the attraction.
The challenges is to keep looking and to keep searching
for them.

Speaker 1 (02:10:43):
Yes, I think that's a perfect note to end on today.

Speaker 3 (02:10:46):
Charles.

Speaker 1 (02:10:46):
I want to thank you again so much for coming on.
That was fantastic as usual. And for the audience that
wants to find out more about you and pick up
some of your books, what's the best way for them
to do so best way.

Speaker 3 (02:10:58):
Is to go to my website, which is www. Urban Fantasist.
That's fantasist as opposed to fantasy dot com, and you'll
find all the links and the links to the books
and everything else you need to know there, and you
can also find the books on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (02:11:16):
Fantastic. Well, Charles, thank you so much, and we'll definitely
be talking again sometime in the future.

Speaker 3 (02:11:22):
Well, thank you, Chris, it's been a delight as ever.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (02:11:26):
All Right, everyone, until next time, have an excellent evening,
and we'll talk again sometime. Maybe tonight, I don't know,
but definitely tomorrow.

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