FKN Classics Double Feature! | James Keenan - High Strangeness | Peter Champoux - Earth Rings - Forbidden Knowledge News

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want to welcome back to the show. James Keenan. He
is an author, lecturer, and investigator. He began his writing
career after spending more than twenty five years in law
enforcement and private investigations. He holds a degree in interdisciplinary

(02:10):
studies and his main curriculum was anthropology and archaeology with
a focus on Mesoamerican cultures. He noticed a lack of
archaeological investigation and to the reason past culture suddenly disappeared,
which led him to research evidence that pointed towards the
same catastrophic catastrophic events taking place at a worldwide level.

(02:32):
He has also delved into research of topics of the
paranormal and uthology, and he has come to believe that paranormal,
uthology and ancient human history may have more in common
than most want to admit. James, welcome back.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
How are you John Well, Chris, Hey, thanks for having
me back on the show.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
Of course.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Man, it's always great having you on. It's great to
talk to you again. Last time we spoke was at
i think the Mega conference last year we had. It
was a really amazing presentation, one of my favorites, and
if of course about the high Strangeness in your research
surrounding the un Tah Basin and all the crazy stuff
that goes on out there. And this year you're actually

(03:13):
going to be giving another presentation, is that right?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Yes, that's correct, I'll be speaking. They actually made it Friday,
the twenty fifth of March. It's called the High Strangeness Day,
and I'll be opening at a thirty am in the morning.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Awesome. Now, without giving away too much, could you tell
us a little bit about what you're going to be
presenting this year.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
The title is called The Lost and Forgotten Past, Confronting
the High Strangeness to understand the truth and what it entails.
Are locations all over the world that I've been to
where the current anthropological and archaeology premise behind everything and

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what the archaeologists say doesn't really make sense. And what
I want to do is. I want to present the
additional information and data points that I've collected to show
that there seems to be an even more distant history,
that it goes much for the past what they tell

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us it does. And then not only is it, you know,
human history, but it also seems to be other species,
mainly giants that have been around the world. And I'm
going to also talk and discuss the Ouelos de at
Lisco alien artifacts that are coming out of Mexico and

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kind of give people heads up that a majority of
it are they're fake, fraudulent, just because it's become a
huge money maker for the drug cartels that are in
that area.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
And interesting.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I want to show and present some of the artifacts
that I actually believe are real and are thousands of
years old and kind of explain how that fits into
the cultures and the civilizations that are in that north
central portion of Mexico and work their way all the
way actually up to the desert southwest.

Speaker 1 (05:21):
Now for you, what are some of the most profound
findings that point to you know, like you said, archaeologists
have been leading us down the wrong direction when it
comes to our ancient past, and that it is much
more interesting and fantastic than we could have ever imagined.
You mentioned giants, What are some of the other maybe

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sightings or things that you have come across or research
that kind of puts our ancient past. It gives it
a different angle than what archaeologists are trying to portray.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Sure So and Ted Deo La Khan in Mexico, there
are a lot of locations on the site that aren't
even talked about or discussed, that are underground and shouldn't
be based upon what we're told and what the reason

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for them that we're being created doesn't make sense. The
technology that's blow ground there is far greater than what
we've been told. There's also a location on the Pacific
coast of Mexico. It's known as Shiwa Khan. It's next
to Ziawanta Najo and thirty years ago we were told

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there was no great civilization or cultures there. Yet we
have an area that's about eight square miles that is
nothing but pyramids, and to date we've only well they've
only excavated a single pyramid and it's completely covered in
clay that has lasted for over three thousand years. And
I don't know if you've ever try putting stuckover clay

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on anything on a house, it only lasts like twelve
to fifteen years before you have to completely replace it
or at least make patch repair work to it. And
this thing's lasted forever. And it's a cultural site where
many many cultures and civilizations gathered from all over Central
America from mezso America, and that was never supposed to happen,

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so why were they gathering at this one site. It
also has the second largest ball court in Mesoamerica after
the one in the Yucatan in Chichinitza. So these are
also attached to the giants. We're told that Zelwah the
Giant and six of his brothers or the seven giants,

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were the creators of this. If you talk again to
the archaeologists and anthropologists, they say that's just mythology. Yet
the Nahawa people and the other cultures state this is
just oral tradition, which is actual history. And the final
site is northeastern Utah near Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch,

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where you have these petroglyphs that all over the place
show giants. They have six digits on their hands, they
have these large feet that have been carved into the
rock wall or painted on if it's a pictograph, and
it's not just in one side or two sites, it's everywhere.
And what you see goes along with a ton of

(08:28):
the oral tradition of the Shoshone Indians that were the
real Utah Territory Indians, not the Ute who were actually
more within the what's now Colorado. So just a ton
of this and it all seems to be connected. You
have the giant connection between all these areas. You know,

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the oral traditions are very similar.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Yeah, it makes me wonder, you know, they it seems
that they would have all these different time types of
ancient beings and different types of ancient humans. We find
evidence of, like you said, giants, evidence of either humanoids
or other types of beings with elongated skulls, evidence of
little people. So it just seems like they just had

(09:15):
all kinds of different types of beings, whether they were
just forms of humanoids or primates or whatever they are
something that we have not categorized. It makes me wonder.
You know, you look at bigfoot sightings today, even sightings
of strange little creatures, It makes me wonder if these
beings are still here in some way. I think you

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mentioned underground. Maybe they could have gone underground and they
just come out whenever they feel safe, or maybe they
are in a different spectrum of vision that we can't
even you know, we can't perceive because we don't have
access to that. What do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, so the first point the underground. Over the last
couple of years, I know everybody that thought has followed
my work, It's changed a lot in regards to Skinwalker
Ranch and the Unta Basin in the mountains that we've
been underground. Now there are an unheard of amount of
cavern systems, in tunnel systems and mines that are connected

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throughout the entire Unta Basin and mountains. And you know,
it kind of goes into what you said about Bigfoot.
I mean, if something like that were to be so elusive,
you know, what better way than to do it underground?
And there's obviously this potential for there to be a
lot of lost artifacts and historical data and records bold

(10:42):
you have. You know, the Seven Cities of Cibola. Is
it really Kershannab which is supposedly in the Untam Mountains,
that's actually Tamwan Khan to the Azteca, which with a
you know, the mixtech of people. And then in regards
to interdimensional, multi dimensional, I mean I think anything as possible.

(11:03):
You know, we have NASA investigating these X points, these
geomagnetic anomalies that take place that open portals from the
Sun to the Earth, and these our mass or scientists
you know, investigating this. So I absolutely believe that the
potential for that same type of magnetic energy to create

(11:26):
these portals is very capable on the planet as well
as above it or outside of it at least.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
And one of the aspects that's always really fascinated me
about these areas in the Unto Basin and skin Walker
Ranch and just areas of high strangeness in general, is
when you add in the high amount of UFO activity
and things that we're seeing in the sky and strange
orbs and lights and all these things add you put

(11:56):
them together, and it's it's such a whi range of phenomenons.
Say you have UFOs, but then at the same time
you'll have maybe an apparition or are a ghost. And
I was speaking with some researchers lately that some of
them seem to believe that whatever kind of energy that

(12:16):
a UFO gives off whenever it's either coming into our
reality or are coming into the atmosphere, that it may
have some kind of electromagnetic effect on the environment, and
it could maybe either open portals or cause paranormal activity
or some kind of enhanced activity. What do you think

(12:38):
about that, Well, I.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
Mean, I think the potential in that type of energy
is a lot greater than what we've or what we're
currently aware of. Look at gravity, it goes against all
other types of energy. It's it's very low and it
doesn't have this strength that other types of energy do. However,

(13:03):
what if that's based upon the fact that maybe the
gravity is in multidimensions, so at a specific point, it's
actually being pulled harder in a different dimension, and that's
where that drop in the energetic potential for our dimension
is found. And I know that a lot of the

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physicists are looking at that, and you know, with the
larger colliders that they're using now, they're looking into the
fact that you know, we absolutely don't understand gravity and
maybe in some way the magnetism and the gravity interact
together that we just haven't interpreted the data properly. And

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come to understand yet, and you know, I think we're
at this point in time where suddenly all these large
just discoveries are taking place, and the government or government
entities seem to be forced are being forced now into
giving up a little bit more of that information. So

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hopefully we'll learn what else is available or what current
scientists what their most recent data points show, you know,
and not have to wait ten or twenty years to
find that out.

Speaker 1 (14:29):
Now, last time we spoke at the UFO Mega conference
last year, you were going out there with something I
believe called a magnetometer. Are you still using this?

Speaker 3 (14:42):
I am so.

Speaker 2 (14:43):
I have the vector magnetometer, which you know, tests and
tells us what the magnetic reading is for that specific
part from the Earth's core, and it's a vector it
can tell us location is coming from. And I've also

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added a three D ground imaging magnetometer. Now it's a
system that it actually looks into the ground up to
sixty feet and can show if there are objects below,
if there are cavities below, voids below, if there's water

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running through the ground. It converts that magnetic reading into
through the software into a color match, and it's just
incredible we've been using it, you know, on a couple
of shows. I can't talk about that, but it'll be
it'll be shown and in my future presentations coming up.

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What you're going to see is just it's simply amazing
because it almost feels like you're cheating. You're able to actually,
you know, look into the ground without being intrusive to
it and having to dig or anything. We're capable of
seeing if there are what those anomalies are. You know,
with the vector magnetometer, you know there's something there, but

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you have no idea what it is. You know, there's
this magnetic anomaly below. Is it a huge magnet? Is
it maybe a hole that's creating less of a read
than what the normal standards should be for that. But
now with the three D ground imaging, I'm actually able
to show you exactly what it is, how deep it is,
what it looks like three dimensionally.

Speaker 3 (16:30):
So it's pretty cool.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Yeah, that is really cool. Are you using any other
types of equipment whenever you're going out there to do
your research?

Speaker 2 (16:40):
I am so lately if you follow a lot of
what's going on in these areas of high strangeness, whether
it be the meadow out in Alabama or in Colorado
or at Skinwalker Ranch. It looks like whatever this phenomena
is or or certain phenomenon, they are capable of being

(17:07):
seen in a different light that it's requiring, you know,
night vision or thermal vision. So I had before, but
it was pretty cheap quality. So I've upgraded quite a
bit in order to conduct that type of investigation. And

(17:31):
just due to the fact that it seems like a
lot of people are starting to see UAP other types
of species portals, whatever you want to call it or
say that you've seen it seems to require night vision
or thermal imaging in order to do that. So yeah,
and that means a lot more night investigation than what

(17:52):
I have done in the past. And I'm also we're
coming together. There's going to be a few people that
are actually going to start doing this as a group,
just because you know, you know, more eyes than just
my two eyes are a lot better cover a lot
more ground in the specific locations for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
Now you've mentioned a couple of places that are probably
a little bit new for people that haven't really been
researching this stuff. I remember the meadow that you just
mentioned was an undisclosed location for a long time, they
wouldn't even tell you what Stata was in. But now
you said, you know, it's in Alabama, of course. But

(18:34):
then we have the blind Frog Ranch and the UFO
conference last year was the first time I've heard about
this one as well. And this is a really fascinating area.
Maybe for the audience that's not familiar, could you tell
us a little bit about each location and what kind
of concentrated phenomenon is going on in.

Speaker 2 (18:53):
These sure, so let's take the meadow first. The meadow
is out in Alabama. I can't I'm not allowed to
disclose the exact location, but it's in that state. Trey Hudson,
who spoke last year you were there, discussed this. He's
the lead investigator for a group of individuals that come

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together what occurs there are a lot of the same
unexplainable events that are found around or at Skinwalker Ranch,
meaning you have cryptids that have been cited there.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
You have.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
This transient energy, whether it be you RF, radio frequency
electric field or electromagnetic field that shouldn't be occurring, especially
out in the middle of nowhere where it's at. And
then they for the first time that I've ever seen

(19:51):
and I think you saw it too. They actually, using
thermal imagings, caught three of their individuals looking into a
portal and disappeared.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Yeah, this was actually the most amazing footage I've ever
seen in my life.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Absolutely yeah, and it was. It was about ninety seconds
of video that they had. And then to hear what
those three individuals experienced while they were elsewhere, it was
so dark, they couldn't see. There were suddenly all these
thorny bushes around, and they knew that they were no

(20:28):
longer where they were supposed to be, so they backed up,
went backwards and had to circumnavigate all these thorny bushes
that didn't exist when they walked into that area. And
why they were there was because moments later, well probably
about what ten minutes, they saw this huge rectangle box,

(20:51):
yes on night vision, and it was there and we're
talking large, and then it was gone, so was black,
huge black cube just hovering above the ground. And then
so that's why those three individuals actually walked to that

(21:12):
site and then just disappeared. And it's just truly amazing
because you hear about this, uh you know, but you've
never seen the evidence like this, and it was just
pretty exciting for you know.

Speaker 1 (21:27):
I was I'm still stunned that I was able to
see something like that because these these people were literally,
you know, on thermal imaging there one second and then boom,
they're just they're not in existence, and you know, they
come back, they pop out. How far was it from
their original point where they exited.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
It wasn't very far.

Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, yeah, because they kept the feet.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
Away from from where they went in.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Right right right.

Speaker 2 (21:58):
Well that's because they had to navigate around these fours
that were suddenly where they were. So it took them
about ninety seconds to get around it because they said
it was in total darkness they just couldn't see.

Speaker 1 (22:13):
Yeah, then it's incredible.

Speaker 2 (22:16):
Yeah, it was an amazing presentation that Trey gave. And
now blind Frog Branch that's twenty one miles northeast of
Skinwalker Ranch. It's right where the u in Top Basin
meets the un Top mountains. What's occurred there? People have

(22:37):
supposedly seen multiple UFOs at once. I believe it was
nine at one time. The mountains have lit up in
this blue light. They've found blue dirt when they were drilling.
There is an underground cavern system that we absolutely know about.

(22:58):
We've mapped it out about a little over a mile
and a half long. Again, remember how I was telling
you all these caverns underground and it's inundated with water.
The water apparently has healing properties that have helped people
that couldn't walk start walking again. And what's really amazing

(23:20):
is there's this Aztec connection and this ancient not just
the Spaniard connection, but also even older to this group
of giants known as the Starknock that were miners. And
there's this supposed site that is full of artifacts, tons

(23:42):
of gold, and it supposedly around the blind Frog Ranch area.
It's actually two locations. There's a Sacred Mind and then
there's this sacred site called Kershnob. And so you have
all of this coming together and then you have a
there's a show about it. It's Mystery at blind Frog Ranch.

(24:03):
As a matter of fact, Season two airs tonight. Episode
one for the second season airs tonight at ten pm
Eastern seven Pacific. And you've had the people that were
working there see these apparitions go flying by in a
blue light that look like Native Americans, and you have

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people that swear that they've seen what is apparently a
cryptid that has bent branches into all types of circles
above these tall trees that are at least about eight
or nine feet tall, which you and I couldn't reach.
So it's not just a phenomenon, it's multiple phenomena occurring.

(24:48):
And again, you know, it's in this area where we
have this anomalous energy which I absolutely believe is below
ground on the Uenta basin and in the mountains.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
And it makes me wonder with you know, portals appearing
everywhere and all this, like you said, underground energy, if
it makes me lean towards that this could be more
of these whatever these entities are, beings are, they could
be coming through these portals into our reality. And for

(25:22):
whatever reason, these portals manifest in this area easier than
you know, anywhere else for some reason. And I'm wondering
if you think it's because of something underground or some
kind of property that the land has, or maybe something
else causing it, because it's either these extraterrestrials or whatever's

(25:43):
coming here is attracted to that or that is, you
know the other way around. I don't know what do
you think.

Speaker 2 (25:50):
I'm one hundred percent in agreement with you. Either the
energy that's there is attracting it or creating the phenomena.
And it's a lot. I mean, it's Ufoaley. It's one
of the major Ufo alleys in our country. And in
regards to the portals, there is something that is underground
that looks like a massive magnet the way that it acts,

(26:14):
it seems like a huge magnet is there. Whether that's
natural or man made or other made, I don't know,
but we know that for a fact, this transient energy
that's occurring, I don't know how else to explain it
unless there was something that magnetic below ground. One of

(26:35):
the possibilities that a lot of people are looking into
is maybe this was an ancient meteorite or asteroid that
struck because remember Lake Uinta was in this location and
it was so large. It encompassed parts of Colorado and
parts of Utah. It was just a massive lake that
was I think it was around about fifty two to

(26:56):
fifty five million years ago. So easily if an asteroid
struck in that water. In some parts it was a
thousand feet deep, it would have been difficult for us
to find that impact. But its properties from whatever rocks
were there, which may have included quite a bit of
gold and a ridium. Because the amount of gold that

(27:19):
we're detecting in a ridium with certain equipment that I
have is just through the roof. It's off the charts
from what should occur naturally.

Speaker 3 (27:28):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
So it could be, you know, some of the energy
that's coming off of these these minerals that's maybe causing
some kind of electromagnetic disturbance in the area. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah, there's there's several possibilities. It's just a matter of time,
you know, we need to figure out which one are separated.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
We know that our government and you know, dark factions
of it at least, have been looking into that area
for a long time. And I'm wondering if you have
noticed any maybe increase since they've you know, since they've
started doing shows on the History Channel and things like that,

(28:11):
or has it remained the same or do you think
that they've become more mainstream about their their kind of
looking into it, And you know, how much do you
think they do? You think they know a lot more
than they're letting on.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Well, remember that the Advanced Aerospace Weapons System Application Program
ASAT was taking place on Skinwalker Ranch when Bass was there,
when Bob Bigelow owned it. You know, you had the big,
bigger aerospace Advanced Space Studies group, and this private company

(28:47):
was conducting all this data gathering and testing and a
lot of stuff that I'm sure they haven't discussed for
the government. And it was all in that area, you know.
So you got to ask yourself, well, why I have
a few problems with some of the people what they

(29:08):
had said, because I've done a lot of research and
a lot of I've spoken to a lot of people
from best So there were some things that didn't really
happen that they said happened just to please Bob, you know, Bigelow.
But now when you look at what's happening on the

(29:31):
show currently, that's all legitimate. I mean it's been captured
on you know, filmed by a camera crews. There is
something directly above this triangle area at Skinwalker Ranch that
continues to open. You see it open, and then you
see this UAP and everyone sees it at the same time.

(29:54):
It's been captured. Uh, there's a lot of unexplainable events
that continue to occur.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
But I think.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
There's some type of cyclical time frame involved when occurrence's
phenomena occurs more than other periods. I believe that if
you look back from around the mid nineteen nineties up
until today and kind of chart that out, you'll start

(30:27):
seeing certain patterns that look to show certain timeframes when
this phenomena is more active than not. And I'm still
researching that, so I don't want to go into too
much detail yet until I can actually present all the
data points on what I've gathered. But I mean, you know,

(30:48):
it's just hard to say. It doesn't present itself on
Q and it almost seems that it has a mind
of its own or the ability to understand or to
know what you wanted to do, and then it doesn't
do it. Yeah, if you want to call that manifesting, maybe, I've.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
Heard plenty of people who've had encounters out in that
area say that it's kind of like it feels like
this trickster type of grand intelligence that maybe controls everything
and even could control your perception of what's going on
at times. Have you heard that or have you even
maybe felt that at times?

Speaker 2 (31:28):
So when I've been on Skinwalker Ranch and around it,
I've never had that feeling where I've been watched or
something's been messing with me. However, that being said, I've
experienced some things that at the time I didn't even
realize that it had to do with some type of

(31:49):
phenomena that we're investigating because I had never come across
it before. And then somebody that was with me talked
to another individual researcher or investigator, and then you know,
you find that out at a later point in time,
or when I present my research, I have people come
up to me, like when I was at Phenomicon last

(32:10):
year in Vernal, and after I gave my presentation, I
ended up interviewing several people that had just a wealth
of information. So I think the intelligence or whatever the
phenomena is is attracted to certain individuals for what reason.
I mean, I'm not sure, and I don't think anyone

(32:32):
else is. So I think it's absolutely possible. It just
hasn't occurred to me in that situation or in that
case where you know, I felt like I was being
watched or something was stocking me, or I had something
follow me home. I haven't had that occur yet.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
Are there right, Are there any stories that stick out
in your mind? Anything really profound or terrifying that's happened
to anyone our stories. You've heard about encounters with either
entities or lights or UFOs or you know, anything out there.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
So I I wasn't on the ranch, but I actually
had something that was really strange occur about a year ago.
But Chris, I'm saving it for the UFO Mega Con
discuss it then if you go. I'm going to end
my presentation with it in regards to probably one of

(33:34):
the craziest things that I've heard about. And it wasn't
experienced by one person, that was experienced by two individuals,
so you know that that's always better. And the two
individuals were the one person that I know, I absolutely

(33:56):
believe it, believe him has ties to the ranch. And
what they saw was a what seemed to be a
very very large animal that has been extinct for thousands
of years that shouldn't have been at Skinwalker Ranch. And
it makes you wonder because look at where it's at.

(34:18):
It's in a location where there was all this large
flora and fauna thousands of years ago. It's one of
the best places to get fossils, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
So you're talking like a dinosaurs.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Or earlier towards our period, like a dire wolf.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Ah okay, okay.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
And I think if you think about it, if there's
two possibilities you've already mentioned. One, if there's this this
rift in space and time, is it just crossing through
a portal from the past in the same location and
it just happens to come across our present And the
other possibility, oh, absolutely. And the other possibility is are

(35:04):
some of these creatures have they remained underground just based
upon how much cavern system is underground? You know, they
talk about here's another great one at Bottle Halla Reservoir,
which is three miles north of Skinwalker Ranch on at
Fort Duchane. On the reservation, there have been several drownings

(35:27):
that supposedly were created by this large black serpent that
they said was approximately thirty five to forty feet long.
The BIA, the law enforcement unit there, actually investigated it,
but they won't discuss it. Think about this Bottle Halla

(35:48):
Reservoir was this huge canyon underneath it are a ton
of cavern systems that are inundated with water. Why couldn't
something It would be dark, it wouldn't be able to
see anymore, it would come out night. Why couldn't it
enter the reservoir through a sinkhole that's been created based
upon all the volume of water that's now in the

(36:09):
canyon going into the cavern system that we know has
water in it, there's water running through it. So it
could be one or the other, it could be both.
I think both possibilities need to be thoroughly looked at
and examined for sure.

Speaker 1 (36:25):
Yeah, and it reminds me of all the mystery strange
big dog sidings and even big cat sightings that people
have seen that you know, didn't believe that those animals
were even you know, existed in that area, or you know,
much larger than any animal that should be in that area.

(36:48):
Are you familiar with any accounts of like strange big
cats or or dogs, anything that's happened recently that you've
heard of.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
Just recently, the state of Utah said that they found
a pretty large wolf and they're looking in to see
if it's a hybrid or not in that Skinwalker Ranch area.
So that's been the talk of the town. More than
likely it's a hybrid that somebody had, but it is
still the first document of these wolves coming back into

(37:21):
the area and obviously it was a little larger than
what it should be in regards to others. There have
been creatures. So a relative of the Locke family that
used to own the ranch before the Myers purchased it,

(37:46):
and then the Myers sold it in the mid nineteen nineties,
and then after that, you know, when the book was
written and everything, then it went to Bigelow. A member
of that family stated that when they came back to

(38:07):
visit the ranch that they came across a huge raccoon
that was on two legs, that was about, I believe
they said, three and a half to four feet high,
walking around on two legs, and it came right up
to them. So that in and of itself, And what's

(38:27):
interesting is they used to have a photo of it.
Unfortunately it's been lost in a couple moves that they've
had since then. And I know people are gonna go, oh,
you know, what it could have, should have or where's
the proof? But I I know when I interview people,
I know who's.

Speaker 3 (38:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
I mean, there's obviously that possibility, But these people were legit.
They had nothing to gain from it. They don't want
to be you know, known. They obviously shared that other
stuff that I just can't talk about. But at some
point somebody has to come across something of this nature,

(39:11):
some type of cryptid, and they're going to get good evidence.
I don't know if you saw my one presentation where
I started using a radar, a KA band thirty four
point seven gigahertz police radar gun like I used to
use when I was a police officer, just in between

(39:36):
Skinwalker Ranch and blind Frog Ranch, and it's a location
where i'd come across the UAP. Finally, after multiple times
there came into contact with the UAP again. I used
this radar gun and it started to interact with the
microwave radiation that I was emitting towards. It captured ninety

(40:00):
two seconds of this on video and I'll present some
of that at the UFO Mega Conference again. But it's
just having to think out of the box and try
to start finding ways to capture evidence that's able to
be presented because you know nowadays and I get it,
I mean, you show a video or photos and people

(40:23):
don't believe you because anyone can photoshop anything they want.
And for me to be able to show that in
order for radar to hit something and bring back a signal,
and it was showing that it was moving between eleven
and forty four miles per hour. That showed me that
it wasn't light, it actually had a surface to the object,

(40:46):
to the UAP and the fact that I used a
laser radar gun right before and it didn't interact at
all with it, that it required this microwave radiation instead,
and it just continuously tried to evade where I was
gunning it. And it was just amazing to have this

(41:11):
because again, it's just more evidence to be able to
provide and show people. And then, you know, I'm more
than happy I tell people, you know, during the presentation
where the location is, because I'm not always there on
the base, and I absolutely love for other people to
go out and investigate it, research it, and hopefully be

(41:35):
able to you know, get the same data points that
I got, because if we can continuously show that this
can occur over and over again, I mean that's you know,
in science, we're actually able to reproduce the outcome, which
is what we're looking for.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
And from what I hear, one of the more common
phenomenon that occurs out there is just orbs or lights
that seemed to have intelligence to them that may not
you know, be really high up in the sky, they
could be even closer to their ground. Have you witnessed
any of these or have heard any stories about these
intelligent lights that you know, sometimes interact with people.

Speaker 2 (42:17):
I think that's exactly what this UAP was.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
It.

Speaker 2 (42:23):
So we've been out there and it's in the same
location that I'd seen it several other times. It took
a while for me to finally get it to happen again,
but yeah, absolutely there was I mean, for that to
be able to know that it's being tracked and monitored,

(42:43):
it was just amazing. And I have interviewed other people
and that was the reason why I knew to go
to that location, because they had seen this same type
of orb It comes in two colors in that location,
and sure enough, you know, the very first time I

(43:06):
went out there at night, I captured it, but it
was with one of those GoPros and it's so difficult,
you know, in darkness for it to really show.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
So it just took a.

Speaker 2 (43:17):
Matter of time on figuring out what type of technology
to use in order to get the data that was needed.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
One of the darker aspects of this, and sometimes it
doesn't even seem to fit with the phenomenon. Is the
animal mutilations and cattle mutilations. Some of them are very bizarre,
and I've heard of somewhere it seems like the animal
is just like fallen from the sky out of nowhere.
Are you familiar with any cases like this or strange

(43:48):
animal cases? And is it still occurring just as much
as it did you know a few years ago.

Speaker 2 (43:57):
So I don't really research or investigate much on the
cattle mutilations, and I couldn't tell you what's been happening
or occurring just due to the fact that that's just
just something kind of out of what I want to

(44:18):
research and investigate it. Now, if I come across that
during you know, speaking to somebody, I'll absolutely take that information.
But usually I'd like to turn that over to, you know,
somebody that knows a little bit more about that than
I do. Now that being said, you know, with my
background in anthropology and archaeology, my main reason for being

(44:43):
up in that area initially was not Skinwalker Ranch. I
didn't even know it was there. It was the petroglyphs
and the pictographs that were there. From the Fremont and
the Barrier Canyon style cultures, which were you know, anywhere
from eight hundred years ago to thousands of years back.

(45:03):
And in one of these petroglyphs, it looks like you
have this zoomorphic creature that looks like a deer something
else walking through a portal and then up in the
air it's falling out of another portal upside down and

(45:24):
being crushed when it hits the ground. And like you
just said, that kind of fits with what happened at
the Garcia property east of Skinwalker Ranch George Knapp paded
in his book, where it looked like cal died by

(45:45):
falling to its depth in the middle of a field.
So to have that seemed to be captured thousands of
years ago. And I understand petric glifs pictographs are subjective,
you know, everybody can have a different type of interpretation,
but this one just I mean, you look at it
and then you hear what you just said, and it's

(46:06):
like wow, it almost seems like it's telling a story
of that occurring just a couple thousand years earlier.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Yeah, And speaking of the petroglyphs you just mentioned, there
seems to be plenty depictions of these portals, but not
only that, the strange creatures that people witness around these areas,
and even UFOs and maybe would look like gray aliens.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
Too, right, absolutely, especially on the Unta basin and the
Uinta Mountains. And what's even more interesting is when you
see that, then what you need to do is go
and research the tribes that are in the area and
find out about their oral traditions. And you end up
seeing that their oral traditions match a lot of what

(46:54):
are in the petroglyphs, and you get a lot more
detail from that, because I mean that was their way
of passing the stories down, you know, instead of it
being written. It was an oral tradition. It's not mythology
like the anthropologists and archaeologists tell us. It's their history.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Now they have a couple of Native American legends that
could possibly have an explanation for some of the things
going on there, like curses between the u and the Navajo.
Have you heard of any other native lore or stories
that might kind of explain what's going on with some

(47:36):
of this phenomenon.

Speaker 2 (47:38):
Well, the Ute so recently, a lot of the historical
data that I had been presenting in my talks and presentations,
I learned that some of it was incorrect. I've actually
recently learned that the Utah Territory Indians and the Ute

(48:00):
aren't the same interests. The Shoshone and the Paiute are
the actual Utah Territory Indians that lived in what is
now Utah. The Ute were actually in Wyoming, mostly Colorado
down into Arizona. There were a few bands that were
in Utah. But what happened was when Lincoln put everybody

(48:24):
on the reservation, they just bunched a ton of different
tribes together on a Ute reservation. And unfortunately, these other
bands and tribes became known as the Ute, and they've
lost their history and their culture. And so you have
this group called the Timpanogos, which were really Shoshone, but

(48:48):
people keep saying, you know, they're Ute because they're on
the reservation, and they're trying to get that cleared right
now with Congress. But we have to change who we
are really looking at back in history. And I'm finding out,
and it's going to be really great to find out
that there's some interesting pi Unon Shashshoni oral tradition that

(49:09):
may bring a lot of clarity to what's going on
in northeastern Utah that the you just didn't have because
they weren't there. So when we hear this story about
the skin walkers, which are the yaw blushi between the
Navajo and the you, we're in the wrong area. You know.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
Wow, that's firir.

Speaker 2 (49:30):
So yeah, there's going to be a lot of changes,
and you know, and that's the great thing about research
is I'm willing to say, hey, I was wrong, but
I want to present what's right and start maybe going
down in avenue because we've been hearing the same thing.
You know, I had in my presentation, I showed photos
of what I thought was y now blushy a skin walker.

(49:50):
Come to find out that those are sacred Navajo shaman
that are are like the best of the best. They
it's only positive energy. And we've been using these photos
and if I were to show you two of them,
you'd be like, oh my gosh, that's a skinlocker. I
thought the same thing. But no, it's embarrassing, you know,

(50:13):
using that, And I want to start changing that. I
want to start showing what's real and what was just
misinterpreted because we didn't understand the culture or the civilization
that was here before us, And I think doing that
is going to open up new avenues and pathways of
investigating and hopefully leading to find out what that phenomenon

(50:35):
is or what's causing the phenomenon.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
Oh yeah, for sure. And you know, I'm sure it
would be also, you know, really great to talk to
some of the local natives about their own history and
their own thoughts about what's going on. Have you or
any of your colleagues been doing so or or planned to?

Speaker 3 (50:59):
Yes, a bit, so.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
I've enterview That's why I knew that I've been presenting
some wrong information and I want to start clearing that up.
It was from talking not just to the Ute and
to the Tippanogos and to other Paiute bands and Shoshone
bands and tribes like the Snake Band, but it was

(51:24):
talking to the Navajo too. Because the Navajo came to
this part of the United States, they were kind of
late to the game. You know, they don't show up
until about seven hundred years ago, where the Ute and
the Shoshone and the Paiute were here a lot longer.
But the Navajo had such a larger population and continue

(51:46):
to have a larger population, that there's a lot more
of that oral tradition that's continued and that we still have.
And a lot of the Navajo elders are in contact
with those other groups and have that information. That's extremely helpful.

(52:07):
And it's just a matter of you know, they want
to get the right information out to us as well,
and you know, in order to provide that, it's going
to have to be in both directions, and that's what
we're working towards right now.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
Very cool, and we were talking earlier. You also told
me that you're working on a new book. Could you
tell us a little bit about that.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
Yeah, So, like I always like to write fiction, but
there's a lot of truth in the fiction. I think
it's some of the best way to present it. It's
called The Giant and the Golden Underworld, So it pretty
much tells you after we've just talked. It takes place
in the Unta Basin and mountains. It's going to go

(52:55):
into real history of the Native American from North America
down through meso America. It's going to introduce history of
the giants that has been collected. I've been you know,
collecting their migration patterns now for about thirteen fourteen years,

(53:16):
and it's going to go into the real oral traditions
that have been talked about by the Payute, the Shoshoni,
the Ute, the discussed the Fremont culture and the Barrier
Canyon style. Who they became instead of disappearing like we thought,
they actually migrated southward and became the Aztec. And then

(53:37):
these other groups like the ho Ho Kom that we're
in Arizona. You know, they may have originated out of
Mexico and come northward, but then on this migration south
they joined again and went back down south to become
the Aztec. And there's this this back and forth of

(53:57):
the toll Tech having come up and become the Native
Americans of North America and then this move back. And
you know, it deals a lot with the weather patterns,
and you know volcanoes that erupted in thousand and sixty
four here in Arizona that wiped out a lot of
territory that very few people know about. So it's just interesting.

(54:22):
In my book, I like to add a story to it.
I like to make it teenager friendly. So it's going
to cater to about the ages of twelve to eighteen,
but anybody can learn the history through it, and it's
just I hope it's a good read that people enjoy
it the storyline and also they see the history, and plus,

(54:42):
you know what, it's a good way for me to
leave hints and clues about what I can't talk about
because of the NBA's or something like that in the fiction.
So it's just a matter of you hopefully researching what's
in there and you know coming away what the truth
that's hidden inside of it.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
That's great. And you said you've been looking a lot
into giants and their migration patterns. That's very interesting. But
when it comes to the giants, it depends on I
guess who you're talking to. Some will tell you that
they were pure malevolent, that they were cannibals, that they
ate humans. Some will tell you that you know, it
goes both ways. There was, you know, some that were

(55:23):
good and some that were bad. Or they have some
that intermingled with humans and created hybrids. What do you
think about that? Do you think that there was a
whole spectrum of giants on either side?

Speaker 2 (55:38):
Yeah, it's all three. So it looks like the giants
that were here obviously originated from elsewhere. They have a
lot of similarities with those that were on the island
of Sardinia. You can see it in the oral tradition
presented and in the petroglyphs. You have malevolent, you have benevolent.

(56:00):
You have those that intermingled with humans because there was
a dcline, there was a major catastrophic event, and you know,
you took what you could get. So you have different
types of giants, just like there's different humans on this planet,
you know, different height. You have a group that's called

(56:23):
the c take Caa that were supposedly redheaded, cannibalistic giants.
I'm not sure if the cannibal part was really accurate.
I think what happened was there was a group that
were headhunters. They did take heads for trophies, and that
probably upset a lot of the tribes that they were
taking those heads from. So in order to you know,

(56:46):
get rid of those giants, they had to bring a
bunch of bands and tribes together. So they said, hey,
you know they're eating us, what better way to you know,
go fight to get that to a curse. So you
got to really dig a little deeper. But yeah, absolutely
a lot of them were headhunters that you can see
that in what's out there in the desert southwest when

(57:08):
you look at the pictographs and petroglyphs, and then you
have height differences depending on where you're at. They were
absolutely taller in Mesoamerica compared to what was here. So
we're talking about an older generation being in Mexico, current
day Mexico than what was up here because there was

(57:29):
a reduction in height over time based upon less people
to breed with, and then they had to intermingle and
that just reduced them. So when the Spaniards were here,
they talk about seeing these Native Americans walking around that
were seven feet tall to about seven and a half
feet tall, you know, so, and some of them were

(57:52):
blonde haired or light brown haired, white skin. So you're
absolutely right. It's just a gamut variations, just like there
are with Homo sapien.

Speaker 1 (58:05):
That's really cool. Now, I want to talk to close
out on about the alien artifacts that you're looking into.
You know, you mentioned unfortunately many of them are fake,
but what about those that aren't. Could you maybe talk
a little bit about what ones are the most the
best candidates for being authentic for you?

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Absolutely, So, we have four locations in Mexico where we
definitely know that these artifacts are coming out from the
largest amount of those are from Auelos de Alisco, which
is in north central Mexico. I have looked at about
two hundred of these artifacts. I've actually purchased several of

(58:51):
them which are fake. And what occurred was about eighty
five ninety years ago. The these artifacts were in those
cities and they were found, and these were more than
likely legitimate finds of what looks to be anthropomorphic creatures

(59:13):
that you and I would probably call a gray or
some type of other alien. And over time between that
eighty ninety year history up until today, we had individuals
that realized there was this potential to make a lot
of money by selling these as legitimate artifacts, and they

(59:38):
presented carbon fourteen dating from a couple universities and private
companies that were kind of shady because nobody saw how
it was excavated and brought out of the ground. Organic
glue is not a good way to test for carbon fourteen.

(59:58):
It's better to have of bone or wood, which can
still be You know, you can get a ten thousand
year old piece of wood and carve into it and
it would come back ten thousand years old.

Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
Well in the.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Glue, you there is hydrocarbon in the glue, Well, any
hydrocarbon is going to return the date of at least
five six thousand years old, because that's just what it is.
So it became such a lucrative business, and unfortunately that

(01:00:32):
area is heavily run by the cartel that's there. That
I would say nine hundred and ninety nine out of it,
well even more than that, maybe maybe one out of
ten thousand artifacts are legit. And those artifacts that are

(01:00:53):
legitimate were mostly the ones that were found eighty ninety
years ago and have now made it into the black market.
And it's you know, it's not even black market because
Mexico doesn't consider them artifacts, so they don't care if
you buy and sell them. You know, you can, you
can purchase them online if you want. But there's two

(01:01:16):
types from the you know, there's three classes or three categories.
The first that I'm talking about is fake, absolutely fake,
and that's what a majority of them are. But there's
two other categories. The other category that this is an
ancient artifact from at least nine to eleven thousand years
old minimum before the Great Deluge. The other the second

(01:01:42):
category that we haven't discussed is that there are artifacts
out there that are imitations of even older artifacts, so
they're a copy of an original, but those copies were
made three to five to six thousand years ago. Go wow,

(01:02:03):
and they're yeah so. And it's very difficult because they
use so much current technology to fake this that you
really have to go through a gamut of different types
of testing, especially under a microscope. There I can look
at an artifact now and I can almost tell you.

(01:02:25):
I can tell you that I have seen four different
types of artists that I'm making these because I know
how they carve or etch the side of the stone
or how. But they use to cut into the rock surface.

(01:02:46):
So it's getting easier for me to tell the fakes
because they have just a few people making them that
are so good at it. And in the new presentations
that I'm put together starting in March and moving forward,
I want to let the public know because a lot

(01:03:07):
of people are being taken for a pretty decent amount
of money and believe that they have a legitimate artifact
and just a bunch of crap. Because you feel bad
for them, So if I can at least educate them
and don't get me wrong. Out of all the ones
I've looked, I've seen three that I believe are one

(01:03:28):
hundred percent legit. I think two of them are ancient,
and the third one is one of those older copies,
which is just as amazing because you're talking about thirty
five hundred years ago.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:03:40):
Wow, that is very amazing. Well, I'm very much looking
forward to that. I'm looking forward to your presentation and
all the work that you're going to be coming out with.
If the audience wants to find out more about you,
what's the best way that they can do? So, website,
social media, all that good stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
Sure, yeah, let me look up here. I'm gonna read it.
It's you can get find me at www dot YouTube,
dot com, forward slash c forward slash James Keenan Giants
and Paranormal.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
Nice and that you got any social or website as well.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah, you can follow me or contact me on Facebook
and that is my on James Period Keenan Period seven
seven to one On Facebook and on Instagram, I go
by Dark Shadows and Catastrophe, which is the name of

(01:04:43):
my first book.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Awesome, well, James, that was fantastic, as usual, looking forward
to your presentation in Vegas and we'll definitely be talking
again soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:57):
Thanks Chris, thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 (01:04:59):
Of course, next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll
talk again tomorrow. Today I want to welcome Peter Champeau,
Order of author of Gaya Matrix, Moon Rivers and Arc
of Tero. He took a simple observation of coherent geometry
in the New England landscape based on natural and cultural features,

(01:05:20):
and developed it into a geo metaphysical art science called giography,
the Study of our Living Earth. His bubbling planet wide
discoveries introduced earth cell, earth rings, lay lines, and the
organic Earth grid to the wonderment that are the Earth mysteries. Peter, welcome,
How are you doing today?

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
I'm doing great, Chris, great show.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
It's great to have you on. I really love discussing
the hidden history on our planet, especially when it comes
to things like Earth energy grids, lay lines, and the
ancients understanding of sacred geometry and really megalithic construction methods.
But your work really goes beyond many of the commonly
heard theories about this knowledge that I've heard. I'd like

(01:06:07):
to know what was it got that got you started
down this path looking into this stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Well back when I was born, you know, literally I
was dug out of a pile of rocks. Dinosaur footprints
were discovered, So the living earth was you know, part
of my life from day one. My father was a
made tires, so our family's money was this circular thing,

(01:06:33):
our church was this circular thing. And you know, just
kind of made an impression. I guess, Uh it's uh,
it came out of my work with stone. With stone
and my name, Peter Shampoo means rock of the field,
so you know, in my teens and you know, who

(01:06:54):
am I? What am we going to do? What's my
meaning in life? It looked at my name. It came
up with well, rocks and field, and I found Stonehenge
pretty quickly after that, and I was often running doing
lay line studies of England and reading everything I could
on that. Uh. But uh, you know what I've done

(01:07:15):
is taken all that, all that that knowledge that's been
a cue by uh, you know, people back engineering all
of those megalithic sites and the Great Pyramid and you know,
and everything else and and and trying to use those
tools as a method to go forward into the future.

(01:07:35):
So we can have this symbiotic future with with kind
of nested in the planet. You know, often when we
see uh, you know, like Jodie Foster, you know when
she when she made that first contact, it was coming
into these civilizational areas, they were always circular, you know,

(01:07:56):
kind of like nesting into the planet. So so I've discovered,
you know, it's it's there in plain sight. It's it's
nothing hidden or or forbidden. It's just you got to
look at it with your eyes kind of splinny, right.
But you know there are rings everywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:08:15):
In oh some are more some are like rings of cities,
and cities coalless circularly.

Speaker 3 (01:08:27):
So I think what's going on is that there is
a a kind of an upwelling of energy from the
Earth itself that bubbles out onto the surface, and that
that surface is a membrane of a cell. And that
cell membrane is our collective consciousness. So there are aggregate
emotion or aggregate mental body, however you want to look

(01:08:51):
at it. So we so we have these earth rings
that that appear to be very similar to an integral
membrane protein on a cell, and that's the that's the
conduit for the exchange of information between the inside of
the cell into the nucleus and the outside environment. You

(01:09:12):
know what's needed to be exchanged, and you know, you know,
given off or taken in or you know this type
of thing. So there are always signals being received via
these centric forms around the planet. And often these centric
forms have a a geospiritual center of that circle that's granted.

(01:09:37):
So those sacred sites in the context of a cell
needing information and care working at sacred sites is an
essential component in a good stewardship of the planet. So, uh,

(01:10:02):
I propose we pay all the indigenous people to go
out there and do ceremony, right, all the.

Speaker 1 (01:10:10):
Very good now for for a little bit of a
better understanding of what these these kind of earth rings
are and how the ancients had an understanding of you know,
what they were used for. And you said they had
sacred attributes for some of the megalithic sites. How do

(01:10:31):
you think the ancients came upon this knowledge? First of all?

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Uh m uh, the spaceman came down and gave him
some books.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
According to ancient aliens.

Speaker 3 (01:10:48):
Maybe, yeah, it's it's just an emanation of nature. And
if you look for it, you see it every where.
And that emanation is based on the aneagram, which is
is like a tempo within creation. The nine, you know,

(01:11:10):
three hundred and sixty, you know, breaks down to nine
and all this stuff nine nine nine. So this this
pattern of nine that I found in these Earth rings
and a radiant kind of forms. I might be going
up track here, but lassue me and if I do, please.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
Yeah, you're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:11:37):
But these radiant forms mimic the interior of the planet.
So I was finding these forums and I had a question,
what are they? And then a friend sent me this
this diagram of of an Earth energy works that he
had housed out in Medford, Oregon, and this this vortex

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had had a pyramid in it, so, you know, kind
of implied to it. Whatever. So there was this this
certain radio pattern that was discovered within the vortex itself.
So those same ring patterns matched the ring patterns I
was finding on the surface, and it kind of clicked,

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and I said, well, I've seen that somewhere. And indeed
there was this USGS model of the interior of the
planet that had that same ring pattern to that, And
in later years I found that the same ring pattern
is exhibited in the human eye. It's in the simantics

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of did redo? You know that the sound waves that
did you redo? Is make So it's this emanation that
that's you know for the sensitive you can feel in
a vortex. So so with Stonehenge being an Earth energy vortex,
that they raged uh the stones to match that vortex,

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to amplify that energy so that they could uh fertilize
the fields and and make make crops grow better. That's
the only reason to devote that kind of prodigious work
on rolling rocks around if I've moved myself, but you know,

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it has to be an important reason. And that's the
only thing I can think of is grounding sky nitrogen
via megaliths. So in the bigger the megaliths, the more
the more charge it would have, especially on a l
a line. So they often are shown, uh you know,

(01:13:44):
like in certain you know, like solar storms for instance.
Uh you the megaliths will often hum and put off
a blue light you know, and uh the old uh
you're a go off in historical tangents, but the uh

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uh And in exploring the mounds along the straight tracks
of England, they found that these these toots, these these
you know, like these these earthen mounds often had chromleches
on it or these uh certain style of stacking stones.

(01:14:27):
And inside the the you know, undisturbed earth was this
rock that was melted. So it appears as though that
there was this over charge of the delay line system
at one point and it you know, blew out, I
mean to to melt rock. It's you know, five thousand degrees.

(01:14:53):
I think really uh kind of a bioelectric power system. There.
A lot of the lay lines of England are oriented
towards Atlantis, so I suspect that there might might be
some kind of tulluric exchange of frequency energy between you know,
the Atlantis is uh earth based technologies that they employed

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with the Great Pyramid and such.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
Now you said it's pointed towards Atlantis by Atlantis. You
know what area were you referring to?

Speaker 3 (01:15:26):
Well, I'm just going with Plato. He said, you go
through the gates of Hercules and take a left, and
out there to the west is uh is Atlantis, and
right there is the Azores and the and for a

(01:15:47):
uh something the size of Atlantis, which incidentally also the
design that the quoted design of Atlantis also matched these
earth ringe batterns, so that Atlantis was in a vibrational,
harmonic symbiotic shape form with the planet. But the problem was,

(01:16:10):
you know, like there was a lot of telluric energy
to harves us off the mid Atlantic Rift where the
a'sars are. But you know, so you know that baby
was humming, you.

Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
Know, yeah, wow.

Speaker 3 (01:16:23):
But uh, you know it cracks open every now and
then and the mid Atlantic rift opens up and it
goes Atlantis. So the main lay line of England points
right right to the Azores. So that's why I go.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
How important were some of these megalithic construction sites when
it comes to alignments of stars and uh, you know,
alignments to the solstices and different satellites in different constellations.
How does this all connect to deconstruction with lay lines

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and earth rings.

Speaker 3 (01:17:06):
I'm not sure if they're directly connected or I haven't
seen them directly connected. There there is a connection of
the sun cycles, sun and and and galactic cycles, so
the lay lines fluctuate. I don't know. Maybe this I

(01:17:29):
don't know, this came in as uh. This is the
work of Corey uh Rory Duff roryduff dot com. He's
he's an English geomancer and dowser. What he's found is
that there's a waveform, galactic waveform that undulates every you know,

(01:17:52):
the undulation we go through every twelve thousand years, and
we're heading into that. So there's this increase in light.
And because of that, the lay lines are are are
moving on around h h and and and then every
every time we actually go through a solar sheet, the
lay lines come into coherence, they move together, otherwise they're

(01:18:14):
they're moving in a kind of serpentine produce this kind
of thing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:19):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:18:20):
Yeah, yeah, that's very interesting. Now you in your email
you mentioned pyramidal dysfunction. What exactly is this and how
does this tie in?

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Yeah, this is something that really kind of bothers me here.
Uh kind of an alert alert. Uh, A lot of
work has been done on it. But the Great Pyramid
is the center of one such earth ring and uh
it's actually a moon ring. There's a lot of rings

(01:18:53):
coming out of that. But uh it has this uh
this arc, if you will, we'll go from big to small. Yeah.
Uh so you have oh jeez, where do I start
with the pyramid? Uh at the point you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:13):
Started the smallest point right.

Speaker 3 (01:19:18):
Uh So the Pyramid, where it's located, is it's there
are a lot of to tell if there's an if
it's an Earth matrix, things point to it, like coastlines
point to it. In the case of North America, you know,
the center of North American tectonic plate was pointed to
by the coast of Maine, by the Appalachian Mountains, by

(01:19:40):
the river patterns, by Manhattan Island. Uh, they all pointed
to the center point of the North American tectonic plate.
So over in Africa that you know, you have all
these coastlines and they all point to the Great Pyramid.

(01:20:00):
The delta of the Great Pyramid is this fan, this
very regular fan that's been the same way for eons,
and the point of the fan goes right to the
Great Pyramid. And the edge, if you take the edge
of the Great Pyramids, you know, project the edges that
goes out and defines that fan. So the fan is

(01:20:24):
like itself, is part of that tempo complex of the
Great Pyramid. So the Great Pyramid is this point that's
just sticking up a little bit above the sand, but
the rest of it goes through the entire planet, and
you know, it's part of the whole geometric kind of
Mercabo stability field to the planet to maintain the jet

(01:20:49):
the twenty three point five degree angle of the ecliptic,
which is a ritual that they would do every year,
they raising the jet and such. So, so you have
this this pyramid that is you know, the angle of
the pyramid is the bonding angle of water. I don't

(01:21:11):
know why anybody doesn't. You know, this is really obvious,
but nobody talks about it. And so so it bonds
to the biasphere. It bonds and it's a consciousness men
as well, you know, top down economics. Uh, you know,
we got to go through the big Guy in order

(01:21:33):
to get the God. You know, you have to you
know it filtered leadership stuff, organizational things that they like
to you know, control people. So you know, I mean
pyramidal structures, royalty all that, it all is being emanated
out of the Great Pyramid, and it's and it's being
emanated via the the the lay lines that it sits on.

(01:21:55):
So the Great Pyramid is located in a place where
it's the greatest land mass is marked as a central
point with the whole planet. So if you follow that
X marks the spot that is the Great Pyramid, and
just imagine those as lay lines and taking them out
over the planet, you'll find some very concerning things, you know,

(01:22:21):
genocide and such. You know, fifteen million people here, this
kind of thing that happening, you know, the darfour Armenia
and up there in Syria right now, and it's just
this it's kind of like a bloody courage. So when
you project these lines out, one of them goes through

(01:22:44):
Mecca in the southeast. So it suggests that, you know,
it's so exact that it suggests that the Great Pyramid
in Mecca are part of the same temple complex that
the ancients had set up because that site was an
ancient moon god ess. You know, the moon got us.

(01:23:06):
Her name was Allah. Yeah, so the one god that
was Muhammad chose to uh you know, represent all of
them together, you know. So they have this rock there
and everything. But it just in that same So there's
this beat, if you will, a pulse that's set by

(01:23:28):
that radius from the Great Pyramid to uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
So in a way, it kind of hornesses human consciousness
and emanates through the planet through these lay lines in
a way, is what you're saying.

Speaker 3 (01:23:42):
Yeah, there's a there is a kind of like uh
who in who out kind of thing going on where
the information the pyramids taking information via its sides and
then it's uh, it's transmitted out its edges. So it's
like it's whatever the collective emotion is around it gets
projected out out into the you know, like a like

(01:24:05):
a donut field that's has it that that's what's going on.
When you have a pyramid and an obelist, it generates
a relational donut sphere going on there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
That is very interesting. Now what you go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:24:26):
Just to complete that ring. The Mecca ring has Baghdad
and Istanbul arms so the Constantinople in the center of
the g F faith of so that you know, you
have this ring of Islamic faith right around the Great Pyramids.
And if you project a uh you know, like one

(01:24:49):
of the lines goes out and goes through Fukushima, so
that type of genocidal stuff, and another one goes over
here through the through the US, which I don't know
if you have a lot of Texas listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:25:02):
But I'm in vacation in Texas right now.

Speaker 3 (01:25:08):
But there's a lay line that comes from the Great
Pyramid down the Saint Lawrence seaway. Uh, right by kind
of like down the corridor Austin San Antonio border there
that you know, kind of up just up a little
bit up on the hill there away from it that
quarter and uh that goes down to Durango, Mexico where

(01:25:32):
the tip of the pyramid comes out. So you know,
when you projected, if you project the pyramid from you know,
Cairo through the planet, where that edge point comes out
is down in Durango, Mexico. And Durango, Mexico is where
all you know, drug cartels are. You know, that's the
kind of golden Triangle of Mexico right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Do you think all the pyramids that are around the
planet had similar are types of purposes?

Speaker 3 (01:26:06):
I think it was a control grid you know, you
you that was in place and and it's modeled after
this one. Uh, and it works so good that they said,
well let's let's let's try it over here for you know,
our purposes. But it works so good because it was

(01:26:27):
so tied in with the geophysical, spiritual, bioelectric part you know, water,
you know, it had every you know measure, it was
just a perfect resonated for for all that. But when
it lost its skin. Uh, it really shifted in a

(01:26:48):
big way. It's it's it's it got very degenerated and
that I think the dark Lords took over at that point.
But it's been quite a fight to to kick them
out of there and working on it for a few years,
but it really needs to be rebuilt. That's done something
of that nature to it.

Speaker 1 (01:27:08):
Now, you mentioned the the significance of water and also
sacred geometry of water. I was hoping you could talk
a little bit about that and how that connects to
this as well.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19):
Yeah, everything everything's water. It's it's all everything water based.
And it starts out in the nebula where where you know,
after a sun explodes, there's a nebula phase and then
it turns into a solar system and and then nemeula phase.
You're there, there's you know that typically nebula is generating

(01:27:40):
sixty sixty oceans an hour or something like that out there,
and that that water coalesces, bonds together, that collects dust.
The dust and the water generates gravity. The gravity fields
then start to spin because of you know, opposing magnetics. Uh,

(01:28:00):
eventually the sun is sparked and then you have this
this beautiful solar system happening, and uh where was it going?
I got lost in outer space there.

Speaker 1 (01:28:14):
We're just talking about sacred geometry of water.

Speaker 3 (01:28:16):
Uh, yeah, it's a galagy. So so water, h if
you take the bonding angle of water, ideal bond is
one oh four point five, But if it fluctuates from
ninety to one hundred and twenty depending upon the quality
and kind and whether it's heavy water, light water and
all different stuff and distilled water, it's all has a

(01:28:37):
different bonding angle to it. So uh that that one
oh four point five is considered the you know, the best.
So the Great Pyramid has a one o three point
five angle to its, you know, double sides if you will,

(01:28:57):
from the top. You know, so that that that angle
is all but the same angle as water, especially in
the fluctuation. You know the fudge factor if you will,
with water. But water within that that geometric, Uh I
sent you a graphic of that. But within that geometric
there you can find or you can generate. The vesica

(01:29:21):
pisces are the the Ichtheus. You know that little Jesus
Fishency and yeah, so that that's the Ichtheus. But you know,
so it's up on edge. It's generated by two points
generating common arcs and uh, but the whole arrangement with
where everything touches and meats and it generates this uh

(01:29:45):
haptagon a pentagon. And then of course the vesica pisces
does all the two two, four, six eight, you know nines,
that does all those kinds of things. So it's it's
it's a it's the seed molecule. First sacred geometry. So
anything water touches, it generates the geometry. People volcanoes, patterns

(01:30:10):
of volcanoes. Uh, you know that kind of thing. So
it's holy, you know, it's like it's just like this
miraculous stuff that just transforms matter. And so we have
down below, underneath the two hundred miles down we have
this stuff called ringuidite layers. It's four ocean's worth of

(01:30:31):
water is down there, and every volcano that happens, we
have this upwelling of water that comes with it. And
so so where the volcanoes are actually upwelling on the
African continent, we have a five volcanic vents that that
cohere in a in a pentagon pentagonal form, just out

(01:30:56):
of nature. So it's God's you know, it's sacred because
as it's it's generated by nature, not drawn, not not contrived.
It's just you know, like a flowers.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
You broke up for a second, what did you say.

Speaker 3 (01:31:17):
I said, usually just in simple polygons, it's it's not
you know, when you speak of nature. That's a lot
of you know, the platonic solids have been given a
lot of uh teleplay as the model for the lay
lines of the planet Earth.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:31:36):
You know the quote Earth grid you see on ancient
aliens and such as. It's a really excellent teaching model,
geographic teaching model that was developed. But you know, lay
lines I don't feel I haven't found have corresponded to
that particular model. Sometimes you find parallel lines, but it's

(01:32:00):
it's it's you know, it's it's become the ubiquitous form
and an accepted form of what ley lines are. But
to me, it's so regular it looks like a jail cell. Right.
It might be something that that they're trying to, you know,
get into the consciousness of the people who are trying
to transform things and kind of trap their consciousness in

(01:32:22):
that way. That's that's been discussed that various websites that
you know that the tree of or the flower of
life geometry is like a mental trap.

Speaker 1 (01:32:35):
Wow, that's really interesting.

Speaker 5 (01:32:37):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:32:37):
Something else you wrote to me in your email was
about the glile brain and the found missing ninety What
is this?

Speaker 3 (01:32:45):
Yeah, that's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:32:47):
Yeah, what is it?

Speaker 3 (01:32:48):
Yeah, that's uh, that was in a salon. We're studying
the gli old book brain, a gaggle of We have
gaggles of giggling gleia all through our bodies. Every every
neuron has has nine attendant glea cells. So the cottage
cheese in our brain is mostly this. This, uh, this
is glio and it operates on on calcium ions where

(01:33:15):
where blood is, you know, plasma and iron and all
that other stuff. You know, this glio you know, and
drink your milk, you know, because you need this calcium
and uh so, uh that's like when they say, oh,
you only use ten percent of our brain, they're they're
they're talking about the ten percent of the neurons, but

(01:33:38):
they're kind of excluding all this this gray matter as
being kind of worthless fluff like insulation or something. But
that that's that's communicating via frequency. It's faster than the
speed of light. Frequency is faster than light. So neurons
work on light and and glia work on frequency. So

(01:33:58):
we have our head, our our heart, and our stomach
all you know, high concentrates of glas cells in those
three places, so those are our three brains, right, But
there's glee all you know, there's glea with every neurons,
you know, fingertips whatever. So that's the you know, this

(01:34:19):
this one to ninety percent. So you know, we look around, well,
what else, well we have we have dark matter is
you know, on the other side of the fres scale
where it's no we only know what ten percent of
the matter is and everything else is great. We have
gravity for ninety percent more matter, but it's not there,
so we call it dark matter. So that that's that's

(01:34:39):
like the glia of space, you know, being attended to
these light forms, you know, these electron suns. So it's
and and then the other one is we have u
we're all using ten percent of our DNA. Yeah, all
the rest have been you know, yeah, so it's the

(01:35:08):
same thing. So it's my it's my sense is that
we use our DNA via our frequency attenuators at leocels
and communicate with all there is all the other you know,
like the dark matter. So we're receiving information in that
way all the time, you know, and are that ninety

(01:35:28):
percent of you know, you know it's DNA. If you
if you stretch it out, you take the aggregate length
of the average human body, it goes there's twelve billion
miles of the stuff in US. So that that is
like that is shoot, that is one antenna system that
you can you know, connect with the whole heliosphere of

(01:35:52):
the planet of the Sun. You know, the Sun reaches
twelve billion miles. So it's that kind of expanded you know, centeredness,
but connectedness. And I mean that that that that's access
through the glio body. That's that's the heart, that's the
heart mind if you will be use it. It takes

(01:36:12):
in the resonant frequencies around you that that you don't
it may not be audible, so so that the glio
body is what picks up on whatever.

Speaker 1 (01:36:26):
Yeah. So I mean basically there's a connection not only
to each person, not only to us and the planet,
but to us and the universe. Really everything is has
this kind of consciousness connection, right, and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:41):
To say otherwise would be a blasphemy I would think, so, yeah, yeah,
we get a little sip here.

Speaker 1 (01:36:51):
Sure, yeah. Now I want to talk about the history
of the cultural use of stone versus what we're doing
now with our building methods in construction, and how we
can't even reproduce much of the things that the ancients
did when it came to megalithic construction. Uh, why do

(01:37:13):
you think that is and what was the difference? What
were the how were they using stone? How are the
ancients using this?

Speaker 3 (01:37:22):
Well, this kind of leads right into the from the
gliod conversation, leads into that conversation because the planet being
you know, we're in the image and likeness of the
planet and all that is planet also has glia and
it's made of calcium, so we have all these like
Texas has made up a lot of calcium deposits, So

(01:37:46):
that's planet Ganglia. And you go and you go around
the planet, you find like the south of England limestone, Egypt,
limes stone, Jerusalem not limestone south of France lane. I
mean all these places that are sacred sites there have

(01:38:08):
that planet Leo, that attenuating frequency of limestone helping them.
So in the past, Uh, you chicken in the egg,
I mean, maybe civilization arose just because of the existence

(01:38:29):
of limestone, because it's easy building material. But I tend
to think that there's a certain you within limestone. There's
this underlayment of water, so when you got underground water,
there's a lot of var texas and lay lines associated
with it. So there's more of a breathing going on

(01:38:50):
within limestone, where granted it's just you know, it's like
it sends off the electrical current, but you can't really
you know, bathe in it. Uh. So Uh, in the
ancient times, they recognize that if you use the canons
of sacred geometry, the canons of nature in construction, uh,

(01:39:15):
you would be creating a building that's in harmony with
the planet, and it would actually, you know, everything would
be magnified. You know, that the quality of space would
be magnified, that the Earth would be magnified, the culture
itself would be magnified. So they spent a lot of
energy in creating temples that were you know, really hummet

(01:39:37):
and tuned to these these sacred cannons. Uh. As we
went away from that, uh, there's been this loosening up
of the connection between culture and matter. You know, the
uh Earth, as Earth has become a commodity that we've
become very parasitic off of it. H it's kind of

(01:40:00):
floating on the surface, but you know, rockets, rockets, rockets,
heavy stuff, and it's nice drapery now, but it doesn't
really it doesn't have to serve any of its noble
purposes as it did in the old times. But cultures
that that did I complete that thought. Cultures that did

(01:40:24):
follow those sacred cannons in the construction tended to have
like a thousand year runs, where those that didn't were
did that two hundred and seventy five, two hundred and
seventy five year pulse. That that like civilizations.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
Do, yeah, rice and fall just two hundred and something years.

Speaker 3 (01:40:45):
Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, So that a good stab at
that one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:51):
Oh yeah, definitely. Now I want to I want to
talk about you mentioned earlier that the basically the dark
lords had taken over everything, and I, you know, I
tend to agree, and I have many guests that have
theories about you know, this this global takeover of our civilization,
hijacking of not only our governments and corporations, but our consciousness,

(01:41:18):
and then the way that we're thinking when do you
think that this kind of global takeover occurred. Do you
think it's been for thousands of years or you think
it's more something more recent within a few hundred years,
that that these you like you call them dark lords
took over.

Speaker 3 (01:41:39):
H Yeah, I think when now we had a yeah, beautiful,
thriving planet and then we got hit with this last catastrophe,
and you know, we see the remnant of this old
civilization at three hundred and fifty feet you know, off

(01:42:00):
on the off on the continental shelves, these old cities
out there, pyramids under the you know, by Cuba and
a lot of different places. You know, it was a
it was a beautiful planet. It had you know, it
had an ice canopy that was protected from radiations, so
floor and fine thrive. But when all that collapsed, it just, uh,

(01:42:26):
it generated this kind of degenerated degenerated uh. You know,
everything was in upheaval. You know, so before everything was connected,
you had the system of of of pyramids. They're all
kind of interacting and and and and and you know,
enlivening the planet themselves, enlivening the magnet field of the planet,
and everything was kind of like working together. And then

(01:42:49):
when these things collapsed, just just like uh uh, like
the logical system that collapses. You get these sparks coming
off these different places and and is uh you know,
lack of coherence and all those things that that that
that that happens when systems break down. So that's when

(01:43:13):
you know, so there's this remnant that's still there, but
it's it's a remnant that's that's kind of chugging along
in a in a collapse state, in a in a
state of entropy. So states of entropy is where the
dark Lords thrive. And so we get fast by these

(01:43:38):
you know, we are fascinated by the past and the
state entery. I'm sorry, it's like getting energy to this
past collapse when when we need to step forward into
into a new relationship with planet that that's that's not
based on on on this collapse system that that you

(01:43:58):
know when Haywire back five thousand years ago, six thousand
years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
You think this this collapse was a was was a
was a natural type of cataclysm or or something more intentional.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Uh. It's people have conjectured, uh channeled uh that there
was the passing of planet x uh and that stripped
the planet of its atmosphere because of the debris there was.

(01:44:36):
You know, it's simply you know, when you look at
the Bible, you know, oh, the Bible's fact. And Methuseloi
lived to be a thousand years old, and David was
seventy years when he died. So it was a uh,
in the old times you got to live longer. Then
there was this flood, and after the flood you could
ferment grapes. Before the flood you could not ferment grapes.

(01:45:01):
So that meant that there was more radiation heading the planet.
So and so everybody started to die younger and and
and because of that new condition that new the the
the off world civilizations that were you know, like here,
uh you know, doing its thing split because it was

(01:45:21):
no longer viable for their type of biologies. You know
that they couldn't handle a radiation. But us, you know,
kind of like slaves that were developed not to die,
you know, no matter what condition. You know, I mean
tough humans now who were who were given free will

(01:45:44):
by the Syrians, you know, who put some silica in
our in our systems to develop consciousness. You know, it's
it's been quite a history, but I think that's why
they why et doesn't really come home.

Speaker 1 (01:46:04):
So do you think that that that the aninochy mythos
may be somewhat accurate that we were kind of tinkered
with our DNA or genetics may have been advanced by
an advanced off planet species.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
Yeah, I adhere to one or two uh theories, you
know that one I Yeah, you know from un understanding, Uh,
the Achy weren't that grade of manipulators of d N
A so that they employed the Syrian people geneticists to

(01:46:41):
create us, but they would not create a human species
with without you know, they Onochy wanted automatons and the
Syrians would not do that. They wouldn't create a new
species without giving them the ability to develop consciousness. So

(01:47:02):
that's where we came from. Okay, there's that one. Then
the other one is that there you know, every time
we go through one of these uh these galactic sheets,
there's an upgrade in our DNA that happens because of
the light path and and that that that evolves us, right,

(01:47:22):
and there are certain like frequency codes within this uh
these sheets that comes out from the galactic center that's
just informing all the planets, uh, you know, to activate
these dnn E codes, you know, to to do their thing,
just to grow, and it's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 1 (01:47:44):
Do you think that we're going through a period of
time like that at this time where people's consciousnesses are
expanding and evolving because of some of this cosmic energy? Possibly?

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
Oh? Yeah, absolutely, you know there is ah you know, oh,
we were entering the photon belt was about fifteen years ago,
it was about twenty twelve or something, but we're really
starting to enter it now to actually go through. Yeah,
I think what what you know with these troughs and

(01:48:16):
mountains of energy of these plasma sheets that we fly through,
the spinning around the galaxy, I think there's there's one
as positive the ones negative. Then you have a transition
zone between and when you're in that transition zone, that's
that's when you get you know, hit with these light

(01:48:37):
codes and then you work it out in this in
this next twelve thousand year period. So I'm thinking that
we're heading into a good twelve thousand year period and
our light codes are all being up upgraded, you know.
I mean, yes, there is global warming. Is our global

(01:48:57):
environmental collapse as being is that asturbated by humans, But
the entire system is warming up and heating up, and
Mars is melting, you know. I mean it's just showing
that there's an increase of light. As a kid, you know,
the front to cap this off, as a kid, I'd
paint the orange sun. Now I'd have to say it

(01:49:18):
was titanium. I mean, there's a definite increase of light
hitting the Earth now, and that's bound to transform anything
and everything.

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
Well along the same lines of you know, cosmic energy
hitting the planet. We were talking about resets and cataclysms
earlier that may have wiped out a good portion of
life on the planet. Do you think that we maybe
do for another type of reset in within our lifetime?

Speaker 3 (01:49:44):
Yeah, it's just a tough planet. Yeah, just about get
up and get on the bicycle and boom, here comes
another catastrophe right right now? How do we drive this
planet through all these cycles of catastrophes that we have
that just destroy It's not it's starting up again, you know. Yeah.

(01:50:05):
Uh but uh yeah, catastrophes.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
I mean, do you think we're dover do you think
we're overdue for the next big one?

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
Yeah? Uh, And that's evident in the electromagnetic field of
the planet. You know when when after a catastrophe, you know,
a cataclysm, the the magnetic field of the planet goes
to a very coherent north and south demarcation, you know,

(01:50:40):
very strong electromagnetic charge. And prior to just prior to
cataclysm happening, all those charges get all mixed up, you know,
the plus and the minus, and you get these like
mid Atlantic uh anomaly or South Atlantic anomaly in the

(01:51:00):
Indian Ocean anomaly and all that just uh.

Speaker 2 (01:51:06):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:07):
You know, she tries to find coherence. So in order
to do that, it has to change polarity. Now, when
you change polarity, you change spin. Uh. You know, like
if you were to reverse wires on a dynamo, the
dynamo was spinning the opposite direction. And that's what Harvard's

(01:51:29):
Harvard uh Professor Emeritus of Astrophysics said would happen if
if the polls shifted like plus became minus, it would
have to stop and make this adjustment. So when you
make that adjustment, you're going to have this cataclysmic thing.
Like geologists have have puzzled that the andes looks like

(01:51:52):
it was thrown up in the day, in a single day.
But you know, so it's like when that when and
I think torques and changes, our entire surface gets all
that rock granted, and everything gets kind of like push
together and uh and gets an increase of pasio electric energy.

(01:52:14):
It is generated within the membrane field that then can
work in consort with the inner core to generate a
stable field. So, uh, the only way I can think
of to uh be able to do this, you know,

(01:52:35):
like not have to have the Earth go through it
and for us to be able to continue driving, and
we have to contribute that electromagnetic crazy frequently that those
electromagnetic energies to the planet in order to uh enliven
it without having to go through these big changes. So
and that's that's the that's the job of Earth run,

(01:53:00):
that's the job of these circular forms on planet.

Speaker 1 (01:53:06):
Do you think that it's possible that there are powerful
forces on this planet that have already known that we
are overdue for a cataclysm, know that we may be
facing one within our lifetime, and have already put in
measures to maybe start countering this. I know that there's
some theories that what they're spraying in the sky is
to kind of stop this Grand Solar minimum the effects

(01:53:29):
from occurring you know you mentioned the magnetic field. I know,
our magnetic field is rapidly moving towards Siberia. So the
magnetic field has already started to flip, and I know
once it gets to a certain point, there's going to
be no stopping it. It will reverse. So I'm wondering
if you if you think that there maybe there are
members of our elite government that already know about this

(01:53:51):
and maybe trying to stop it or slow it down,
or maybe just get the hell off the planet.

Speaker 3 (01:54:01):
Mm hm, well you know, uh I I you know,
my my my senses, uh yeah, you know, they they
want to hold on to their control and this incoming light.
You know, we're going back to the circle. You know

(01:54:22):
that there there's and that's the most dangerous that that's
what was most dangerous about the Native American people. It's
because of their their direct relation with with creator, you know,
and uh and you know they're trying to hold onto
their powers and that you know, we're returning to the circle,

(01:54:43):
which is just the expression of this planet. You know,
it's it's inevitable. So that this you know, so it's
like we've got to get out of this this pyramidal
frame of mind, because they'll always do that. Then they
always have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Right, Yeah, they definitely have to to keep their control
by any means. Peer peer is the definitely controller. Definitely. Now,
I've really enjoyed this, Peter, that was fantastic information. Before
you we close out tonight, is there anything else important
that we should discuss about some of these topics.

Speaker 3 (01:55:25):
Uh, well, I would just like to close and saying
that I offer these as a way in which to
release a lot of collective trauma that's in land. Uh
you know, well, I like the releasing the trauma of
the native experience over the last five hundred years really
needs to be a trust and uh you know it's

(01:55:47):
through uh you know, working with uh you know, working
with these sacred sides. I think that we can we
can do that. And uh yeah, I believe that that
this is a tool for environmental stabilization and harmony. We've
used it in the past to make your reign successfully,

(01:56:12):
so uh, you know, getting some kind of support and
patronage to you know, I mean I don't play all
the different it all stuff, but you know, if there's
a metagy out there somewhere that you know resonates just
what I'm saying with this work, I think we can
really uh do a lot towards, you know, bringing an

(01:56:35):
environmental harmony impact to the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:56:39):
Yes, excellent. Now, if people would like to find out
more about yourself, your work, your books, what's the best
way that they can do?

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
So? Yeah, I just google my name. That pretty much
comes up. It's either me or a couple of hockey
players from Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:56:54):
Right awesome. I will also leave the links in the
description that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:58):
You said geometry place. I've done a lot of studies
that are on my website. I desperately need to upgrade
my website and publish all these various articles I've done
over the years and have that all available, and I
just I try to have it all available. You can.
My book is available on Google Play. Guy a matrix

(01:57:20):
my name and download it for quick like otherwise you
know it's it's I sell them. And there's a few sites,
two sites that also sell the book.

Speaker 1 (01:57:33):
Wonderful man.

Speaker 3 (01:57:34):
I'm working on I'm working on the Encyclopedia of Earth rings,
trying to get it out before all my gray hair
falls out.

Speaker 1 (01:57:41):
Oh that's great. Yeah, Well, I'd love to talk to
you again when you get that out. UH. This is
fantastic information, a lot of stuff that I've never heard before,
and I'm sure the audience is going to find this fascinating.
So Peters, thank you so much for coming on, and
I'd love to talk to you again soon in the future.

Speaker 3 (01:57:58):
Thank you, and.

Speaker 1 (01:57:59):
Until next time, and have an excellent evening. We will
talk again Monday.

Speaker 5 (01:58:13):
We get a little tiny taste of this reality, we
tend to spend it in a way that causes the
least amount of existential harm to ourselves. So religious person
would see angels, and they would they would maybe find
comfort in that. A person that has anxiety about the
abduction phenomena may see aliens and would put a very
negative spin on that, And then a person who is

(01:58:36):
perhaps more secular might just think of it as an
interesting experience that and not put a tremendous amount of
value on it at all. So our own biases, our
own UH, our own culture, our own optics really drive
the UH the experience. And there's another theory that we
actually project the experiences from ourselves. Now we're actually causing

(01:59:02):
this thought form to manifest in a way that's more agreeable.
When a positive or extremely terrifying on the negative.

Speaker 6 (01:59:13):
One of Jocque Roley's perspectives on this that he shared
with Jail and Heinik as well as Sternce mckinna decided
the psychedelics into this part of the conversation because it's
been viewed from all of it. It is that this
is possibly a psycho semantic one and within that framework,
it calls back to what we talked about about the
subjectivity of this realm in general. Whatever this place is,
it's very personal to you. We could see this in

(01:59:35):
the form of synchronicities to preferences and music, foods, things
like this, like this place is very tailored to you,
and you will gravitate towards the things that are calling
you in a direction of your mission based on just
preferences that you have. We could see how already your
interpretation and experience of this reality, even amongst the myriad

(01:59:57):
of options, is going to be radically different than anyone else,
not because it's different because you have the same things
to choose, but what you're attracted to, your experience of
those things, why you saw that versus this. These kind
of things are fascinating. They seem to play out in
very radically different scenarios based on the individual as well.

(02:00:17):
Some people say they had a fantastic time. These people
all they heal everyone, They let me drive the craft around.
They picked up a bunch of people from a volcano
before it exploded and saved all these people. They're here
to help us. They tell us that we should be
taking better care of the planet. And who knows if
the entities themselves were having a rough day. Who knows
if the person's interpretation of the experience is radically different

(02:00:38):
than what actually happened, but for whatever reason had a
really bad time with it and they get traumatized. There
is a difference between contact and abduction, and they are
viewed that way by the participant, by the occupant, and
again that's subjective. In nature. You can either say that
you're being taken on a wonderful ride or that they
stole you and that you didn't want to go willingly.

(02:01:00):
Who's who's controlling that, because some people in the community
will say, then, well, you at a level decided that
this was the kind of contact that you wanted, but
you had to forget when you came here, and you
just need to trust that your soul made that agreement.
I have some challenges with that intellectually and emotionally for
me personally. But there are some people who get by

(02:01:21):
just fine on that, and there are some people who
have had wonderful times after being contacted. The ability of
these entities to perception manage how you feel about an
experience with them, I don't know how I feel about that.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
The extraterrestrial alien abduction phenomena has become much more acceptable
in our modern society, especially after the recent events surrounding UFOs,
like congressional hearings, mass media coverage, and even widely reported sightings.

Speaker 3 (02:01:56):
For weeks now, New Jersey resident has been played by
unexplained drones lying overhead.

Speaker 1 (02:02:01):
Dozens of reports of unauthorized drones flying in the skies.

Speaker 3 (02:02:04):
Unconfirmed reports of drone activity. We have no idea what
it is. If it's a natural phenomenon. At least four
commercial pilots reported mysterious bright lights.

Speaker 6 (02:02:14):
Reports of small, coarsized drones hovering over New York and
New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (02:02:18):
The government is actually lying. The government knows what is happening.
Something strange is going on. For some reason, they don't
want to tell the people.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
There seems to be different sides of the UFO Alien enigma,
what you see on TV, the news, and in movies,
and what people experience for themselves.

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