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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show Jay Dyer.
He is a researcher, content creator, public speaker, lecturer, comedian
and author, and he has appeared on numerous nationally syndicated
radio and television shows, including Info Wars. Jay, Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
How you doing, No good man? Thanks for having me back.
Glad to be here with it.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Yeah, thanks for coming back. This is great. I enjoy
our conversations and been looking forward to this one today.
I wanted to get your insights into the state of
not only our entertainment industry, but what's behind the degradation
of the quality of films and TV shows that the
industry is producing. I've noticed a blatant decline, especially since
the COVID area COVID era, as well as the blatant

(00:50):
psychological operations and propaganda infused into movies and music and television.
That has been obviously increasing as some of the other
events and agendas that have rapidly shifted society. But it's
been a while for the audience that may not be familiar.
Could you remind us a little bit about yourself and

(01:11):
your content?

Speaker 2 (01:13):
Sure? Yeah, I do a lot of analysis of films.
We do analysis of geopolitics, espionage history. I've been integrating
more literary analysis of various books. We also do a
lot of comedic stuff, movie podcasts. I host the fourth

(01:34):
Hour of Alex Jones, and we do live events now.
So we get a live event coming up July sixth
in Hollywood if people would like to, they can get
tickets at my YouTube or my Twitter or my website
right on.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
Well, now, like I was saying, during and after twenty
twenty and beyond the COVID era, how did you really
see the entertainment business to shift. I mean, there's always
been propaganda in the films that we've been watching, but
it seems like we're dealing with a new brand of
propaganda these days.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, it seems like there was quite a few films
that and TV shows. People notice, we're programming and predicting,
you know a lot of koof stuff and getting us
ready for the lockdowns, preparing us for you know, the
idea that we should all get stabbys, et cetera. And
then afterwards it seemed like it's shifted into a lot

(02:33):
of gender and biology programming. I guess you could say
it's kind of the dominant, you know, the critical Marxist
critical theory stuff is kind of what dominates a lot
of the propaganda now and as well as a lot
of the open like satanic and occult stuff is pretty

(02:53):
much in your face. And you know, when I wrote
about that ten years ago, when I started blogging that
seemed to be crazy. People thought that was just way
too far. There's no satanic networks and agenda and all
this stuff. And I had the thesis that well, shows
movies like Eyes Watch Shut kind of were showing us that, no,
actually Hollywood is this way. So there's kind of a

(03:15):
meta you know, fourth wall narrative being broken with Tom
Cruise and Nicole Kidman in terms of their own personal
real lives being reflected in the movie and the movie
you know, esway Chut has them in these you know,
occult satanic sex cult ceremonies, and I'm thinking, you know,
this is actually telling us a lot more about what
was going on. So I was putting that in those

(03:36):
essays and in the book a long time ago, and
then here we see it all kind of more and
more coming to the foe, and like you said, in
everybody's face. So I think that it shifted towards less
it's no longer so much about going to the movie theater.
It's a lot more about just streaming services, and it's

(03:58):
a lot more openly satanic. I think there's tons of
kids shows now that are kind of openly occultic and satanic.
There's tons of movies and shows that have come out,
like I said, with all the sort of bio programming.
So that's what they seem to have shifted to, was,
you know, uncloaking and being out in plain sight, whereas

(04:22):
it used to be a little more subtle. And I
think that's because a lot of these people believe that
they're entering into we're entering into like the Satanic aon.
So that's why they think they can uncloak now.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
It does seem like the speed in which all of
these agendas have rapidly increased, that it's causing people to
notice this stuff. It's causing I think if they're making mistakes.
I don't know if this is intentional, but it seems
like the awakening that that's caused the backlash is backfiring

(04:54):
against them, would.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
You say, I hope so, I mean it seems like
it's backfiring. I mean, at the same time, it may
be that they don't care about like Hollywood anymore, you know,
like for example, twenty twenty two, when the koof was ending,
they put out that movie Babylon, which, you know, this
idea of Babylon itself has a lot of esoteric association's

(05:19):
connotations with that we think of, you know, the worship
of the goddess and bizarre sex rights in ancient Babylon.
And Hollywood's always been characterized alive of Kenneth Anger, the
occultis himself right writing the book Hollywood Babylon. It's characterized
as a kind of new Babylon. You know, you can
see the Babylonian gates when you go to the it's

(05:42):
now a mall. But it was in DW. Griffith's movie
in Tolerance. I mean I kind of wrote esther Hollywood
as in the vein of Kenneth Anger's you know, Hollywood Babylon.
And then and then Hollywood puts out last year this
movie called Babylon with Brad Pitt and Margot Robbie about
the decline and fall of Hollywood. So it's really odd.

(06:04):
It's almost like they know that it's coming to an end.
But maybe because it's already served its purpose. I don't
know if you got to see Babylon, but it was
like at there's a lot of you know, symbolic stuff
going on in that film, where you have the early
days of the silent films, and it transitions into the
you know, the color picker pictures in the talkies, and

(06:26):
then it turns into later like the sixties era, and
then at you know, at the end of the film
spoiler alert, you have the dude that goes and watches
the movie and it kind of turns into an acid
trip almost where he goes into sort of dissociates and
sees the whole history of film in this vision that
he has at the end, and it's almost like they're
giving an homage to Hollywood but also admitting that it's

(06:47):
kind of served its purpose. And now I think we're
going to transition into the era of not just like
video games, but like the era of AI and the
main and br right, so that they seem to keep
working on and trying to roll out you know, like
remember when Zuckerberg had Oculus Riff, Yeah, or I didn't

(07:10):
really seem to get that popular. Now apples come out
with their you know headgear. So I think that's where
they're really wanting to go next.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
And so the older model of like the theaters and
all that's kind of done with and streaming is kind
of the phase before whatever we're going to have with
these with this headgear.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
I don't know if it's just because I'm aware of
this bullshit, but the AI, the AI art, the AI films,
even computer when computer animation just first started to become
big in films, I checked out a bit because I
thought it looked cheesy, it didn't elicit the same emotional response.
It just wasn't the same for me. And this is

(07:50):
happening across the board. The more they implement this AI
and Chad gpt in this technology into our entertainment, the
less of an emotional connection people are gonna have, and
I think more people are gonna check out of it.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
I agree. I mean, I don't get I don't I
don't find much of it moving, especially the more synthetic
it is, the less interesting it is to me. I mean,
I think it's fun to play a video game every
now and then. It's never been something that was the
main focus of my life. It's just kind of a
one of many leisurely activities. But I think they really

(08:25):
want people in not just living in the synthetic world,
which you've already kind of done that with people spending
most of their days on the internet, but now stepping it,
stepping that up to a new level of the you know,
modified reality, and then you'll have like the next phase,
which is just full on I guess matrix kompot or whatever,

(08:46):
like that's the next stage. So but I totally agree
with you, Like it's not to me, it's kind of soulless.
It seems flat and empty. It doesn't have any it
doesn't have I don't It doesn't move me, and I
think art, good art is supposed to move you. It's
spos to resonate with the human experience, It resonates with

(09:06):
commonalities that cross cultures and and and really all this
AI stuff it's just kind of smushing a bunch of
things together. So it's kind of neat and funny in
certain respects and what it can put together. But I
mean it's again, it's more like a trinket or a
fad to me, I don't really see it as that
interesting as to how much this is going to take

(09:27):
over I don't know. I don't I don't have any
clear idea as to exactly what the end goal is
or how far it's going to go. But I know
what the end goal is oldimate, like with transhumanism all that.
But I mean, some people are thinking that Chad GBT
and AI there rolling out is going to be just
all society is going to be revolutionized. I mean, I
guess that's possible, but I just I mean, I've played

(09:51):
around with it, and at least the public versions, they
don't seem to be that interesting. Yeah, I mean I
asked a question about me and it was like, literally
got everything wrong about me. I don't think it's that.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Some speculate that the whole chat GPT is just going
to be a way for search engines to not be
able to bring us correct information and just stick with
the narrative so we won't be able to do our
research anymore.

Speaker 2 (10:15):
Right, that's a great way to put it. I mean
I noticed that when I was asking chat GPT, I
played around with just one day to test it out,
like a month ago, and I remember asking a bunch
of different questions and basically it was just like Google.
So it's almost like instead of you do the search
engine and you have all these results results that you
pick from, it kind of like squashes them all together

(10:38):
and gives you this paragraph of a summary. And that's
not necessarily accurate. But I think you're absolutely right that
the reason they really like it and why they're so
interested in rolling that out is that it will summarize
the official narrative and try to bypass people going to
It's just another layer. I guess you could say, you know,
it used to be we would all go to websites

(10:59):
to find it from, and the search engine comes about
to direct you to the website. Then they gain the
search engine to pick the websites. Then they introduce the
big tech platforms that are another layer between you and
the internet. Right, so instead of you going to the website,
it's Facebook with the links. Then Facebook can game and
control the links. Right. The next layer will be, oh,

(11:21):
now you don't even you just have your personal AI
guru bot, which is probably what they roll out. Like
I read about them in the first book. In the
movie heard with Joaquin Phoenix, Yeah, I think that's going
to be a really relevant film. A lot of people
overlook that film because it's kind of an art house
film and it's indie and it's kind of slow, but

(11:42):
it has a really important message with where everything's going.
And that's because you know, they said a long time
ago they're going to roll out basically a personalized iOS
AI tutor bitch bot that's going to run your life,
and that's just another layer between you and the external
world or you know, real information. And that's that's what
I think. I think you're spot on there that that's

(12:02):
the key role is going to play.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Now. I do see that already, the factor that they're
are attempting to replace actors and a lot of our
entertainment with pure Ai, it's already started. Do you think
this is going to be an across the board thing
with the movie and film industry where actors are going
to be obsolete as well?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Yeah, they told us this in the movie. I mean,
that's what they would like to have for one, just
because it's a lot cheaper, right. But yeah, if you
watch that movie The Congress from twenty ten eleven twelve,
somewhere in there with Robin Wright from Princess Bride, that
movie was telling us where we are now. I remember
watching that when it came out. I was like, this
is it. This is the future, and I covered it

(12:46):
in a lot of podcasts back in the day because
it was saying that the actors would have their you know, images,
and their body and their physique and their facial expressions,
all that scanned in and digitized, and then in the
movie what happens is she signs over. She's playing herself
as an actress in the movie, signing the rights of

(13:07):
her image and her persona over to the studio, right,
and then it fast forwards, like fifty years or thirty
years in the future, I forget what it is and
everybody lives in their VR headset, yeah or whatever, and
that you only interact with the avatars that you have.
And so Tom Cruise and Robin Wright and these different

(13:27):
people exist in the future as they're avatars. But movies
are made right with the CGI. They don't have actors anymore.
Actors are done with So that's the movies about that,
and it presents a very dystopian critique of that future.
So I like it in that respect. I just don't
think that it's gonna I mean, it's really it's going

(13:49):
to depend on how brainwashed the younger generation is because
you can brainwash people pretty heavily, and if they can
be brainwashed into not knowing or recalling or having any
experience with real art, they might it might be like that.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah. Now, let's go over some of your favorite examples
of the revelation of what is happening, revelation of the method,
if you will, of what's happening behind everything with Hollywood
and TV and TV entertainment. One of the best examples
for me is when I watch Black Mirror, I'm just like, oh, damn,

(14:26):
this is possible. This could be happening next week. You
know some of the ship that they show on there.
So there's a lot that's being revealed through Hollywood right now.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah, I think the first couple seasons of Black Mirror
were the best for it kind of went woke. I've
not seen the new season of Black Mirror, so I
don't really know.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
What I have and yeah, it's gone there for sure.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Yeah, but I know in the first two seasons there
was a lot of really predictive episodes where you had
kind of like situations where one situation was like a
basically a giant reality show and it was a court
room of you know, people judging you on the basis
of whether you may or may not have even committed
the crime. It was like a theme park where you're

(15:15):
where it's the purge. I thought that was a really
good episode. Then you have the episode where the guy
is kind of trapped in them. He's having to ride
a bicycle and like tabulate up Pokemon points or some bullshit.
I don't remember what it is, but like that was
a good one because he couldn't he couldn't escape, you know,
even his little coon pod that he slept in and

(15:36):
was like pop ups coming up in his apartment. You'd
to pay to have the pop ups go away. And
when he thinks he's escaped the matrix, right, And that
one it's good because he he ends up basically just
getting a job as having a TV show within the matrix,
and then he he gets an apartment where he can
see the actual outside world, right. So so basically those

(16:00):
two were good. The DARPA Dog's episode was good. There
was a good episode where the guy was programmed to
hunt human beings, so it was like a dystopian theme there.
There's one of the episodes with a boyfriend is like
an AI bought boyfriend that comforts you if you've lost
a loved one. So I thought that again. Season one
and two had a lot of really good episodes, and
I did a really long, detailed essay analyzing a lot

(16:23):
of the best episodes from one and two. But yeah,
I think that's all. I forgot the pig remember the
pig episode, which actually relates to David Cameron, the British
Prime Minister, actually did have an incident with a pig,
which is bizarre that came out. Yeah, so anyway, I mean,

(16:48):
can you hear me?

Speaker 1 (16:49):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (16:54):
I hit the accidentally hit that stupid sirie button as
she started popping it and talking to me, which is
ironic because I'm sitting here saying I don't like you know,
this is like this like the AI the iOS that
you know Joaquin Phoenix has a relationship with the Scarlett
Johansson voice. Right, Yeah, anyway, So yeah, I mean I
think that. But I you know, I've really kept up

(17:14):
with the newer Black Mirror episodes because I I don't know,
I've been finding that all. There was one another interesting
episode of the season before this new one, which was
the Miley Cyrus episode. Did you see that.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
One, Yes, I did see them.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
Yeah, that one I think is relevant because you've got
this pop star who's basically mind controlled and put into
a trance state and drugged all the time. And what's
weird about that is that, you know, I think they
actually probably do this with a lot of these pop stars,
like drug them and their managers or their handlers, you know,
kind of control them and do this stuff. And in
that one, she's replaced with like an AI bought serie

(17:52):
Slash Amazon Alexa version of her that sings and dances.
And I thought that was a good episode. That one
was relevant.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah. Yeah. And as far as feature films, I think
I checked out of Hollywood a lot in the past
few years, but I think, you know, of course Ready
Player one is one of the best prime examples of
where they want us to go, right.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Yeah. I did do a pretty in depth breakdown of that.
I think I did a video when that came out,
maybe a fifteen to twenty minute video of analyzing that film.
There's a lot of neo gnostic components of that film too,
which I think the whole the whole premise I think
of the AI virtual existence that they're trying to push
it ultimately is kind of a neo gnostic impetus. I

(18:36):
mean all of transhumanism has that presupposition, because the idea is,
well will transcend being human and having human limitations of
time and space through AI, through you know, body modification,
through uploading to the cloud, which none of which I
think is even possible. I don't think your conscious is
not going to be uploaded to a computer, you know, database.

(19:00):
I think that's crazy. But we've been been seated with
this idea going all the way back to the science
fiction of the nineteen fifties. You know, you can find
that idea, and I mean that's in Arthur C. Clark,
you know two thousand and ten where Bowman is actually
his consciousness is uploaded to the monolith, and if you

(19:21):
watch the movie twenty ten, that's that's exactly what it is.
So I mean we've been told that, you know, this
is this is the future for a long time. But
this idea of being a human and yet being disembodied,
I think is really bizarre. I mean humans are made
to be and exist in our in a body. I mean,
our brains, in our minds are attuned to function with

(19:45):
two eyes, right, not like fifty eyes all over our
head like a fly has, right, five hundred eyes? How
many eyes of fly has? But that's relevant because if
you even Ray Kurtzwall or the daddy of transhumanism, like
even he notes that our human bodies are actually designed
pretty well for getting around in the world and for

(20:07):
the brains that we have. It's like, like, we don't
have a brain designed to have, you know, five hundred eyes.
So it's not really it doesn't make any sense to
think that we would somehow attain omniscience right through having
the cloud or being uploaded to the cloud or all
these silly ideas given the way that our bodies are made.

(20:30):
So even he as a transhumanist, can recognize that a
lot of this stuff doesn't make any sense. He just thinks,
I think something like our bodies can be you know,
retooled and turned into something immortal through technology. But this
idea that like you know, you see in two thousand
and one, like your consciences will be uploaded and you'll
become like a semi divine being by no longer being

(20:51):
embodied is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 (20:53):
What do you think the actual desired outcome for all
the transhuman nonsense is it seems to have multi layers,
not only merging us of course our biology with technology
and having easier control, but it seems to be altering
fundamentally what we are as humans a level of a

(21:14):
huge level of depopulation as well, and there's an aspect
of changing us sexually to where we are this asexual
type of being that can't reproduce and is under control
over all aspects including our ability to reproduce.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Yeah, we just re read all a Brave New World,
me and my buddy Frank, and we did a lecture
three to the chapter as a Brave New World. And
I read it again, and I read it ten years
ago and did a talk back then, and then going
through it again, it's even more revealing. I noticed all
kinds of stuff I didn't notice ten years ago. And

(21:56):
one of the things that comes out is that point
that you know, the human of the future are re
engineered and retooled that they can't reproduce. And one of
the reasons for that is that all the babies have
to be born in the test tube because you when
you come out of the lab as a baby, you
don't have a mother and father that you have allegiance
to Your only allegiance is to the scientific technocratic state.

(22:20):
So that's precisely why they want to do that. So
if you remove mom and dad, then you've immediately removed
private property, the family unit, and thus by extension, the
nation states. The only allegiance that the individuals have that
are the babies born from the test to their only
allegiances to the super state, the world state. So I

(22:41):
think that's absolutely where they want to go. And so
when we see Claus and Ward Economic Forum goobers like, no,
you've all harari. You know, they're up there saying we're
going to rewrite human DNA and change it. Because there's
not actually anything like human nature. There's not that doesn't exist.
So if everything's at an evolutionary process, it's just matter

(23:02):
in motion. It's just different combinations of molecules. There's nothing
wrong with the priest class, the scientific priest class, steering
it in a new direction. They think they're the commandeers
of evolutionary process. So since man is just a you know,
being produced from the muck, there's nothing wrong with the

(23:22):
scientific priests class steering him in a new evolutionary direction
to become some other kind of being, and that's why
so much of the literature going all the way back
to I think the sixties and seventies from transhumanists talks
about the evolving man to become a silicon based life one,
so do they've been sent that for a long time.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
The main targets of this is obviously the younger generations
in the children, and it's very confusing what they've been doing.
For a while. The sexualization of children was based off
of like pornography and the ease of access from your
cell phones and kids just being able to attack into
the raunchiest porn they can just at the touch of

(24:02):
a finger, and then it's evolved into something maybe it
desensitized the kids over a few generations. Now kids don't
even want to have sex and engage in any type
of sexual activity with each other. And there does seem
to be this shifting of what sexuality is with the
younger generations. There is a sexualization of children, but it

(24:26):
seems to be on the LGBTQ side, right.

Speaker 2 (24:31):
Yeah, absolutely, it's any form of that which doesn't produce
new human beings, right yeah. So yeah, that's it basically,
and I covered I think it was yesterday I did
a livestream. I was getting into the Jaffy memo from
the nineteen nineteen sixty seven slash sixty eight. It was

(24:51):
the Planned Parenthood Rockefeller Foundation population Control memo to all
the Planned parenthoods about the sixties sexual revolution. So a
lot of people think, oh, that's just like a counter culture.
Oh we're against the man, We're going to fight the man. Actually,
the sixties sexual revolution was promoted from the top down,
so it was an elite thing and it had nothing
to do with anybody's freedom or liberty. It was actually

(25:13):
about social control and the idea that if we could
detach sexuality from pair bonding and from producing human beings,
if you can make it into like a recreational activity,
then now sexuality is a tool of control. And so
that's not the only thing that document talks about. It

(25:34):
talks about increased taxation, so more and more irs penalties
for having kids was the theory at least incentives for
state control of the family in terms of even I
think it even mentions one child policy. So I mean
they didn't get obviously didn't get all of that through,

(25:55):
but that's what in the nineteen sixties late sixties as
a result of the sixties, the sexual revolution, that's the
things they want it to put in place. I mean
it even goes so far as to say to have
a compulsory state mandated abortions, to have sterolis in the water.
I mean, it's crazy. So it's real document, it's not
conspiracy texts. So that's I think what all that's really

(26:19):
about is just it's just control. It has nothing to
do with anybody's freedoms. And I mean they don't, the
elite don't care about you being free.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
Something that's coinciding with that whole thing is the normalization
of pedophilia. But I think there's a whole different agenda
behind that. I think that's just so those sick fucks
and globalists and elitists can feel free to harm children.

Speaker 2 (26:44):
Well, that's part of it. But even beyond that, even
that has still a scientific social engineering component, which is
that the more that you can mess up people, the
younger they are, the less likely they are to form
a pair, bonding and have a family. So even that
is about ultimately destroying the family and destroying population. That's it.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Do you think that everything that happened from the fifties
and sixties and beyond with the MK ultra and the
mind control experiments, was all preparation for what we're going
through today to implement on the public.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
Absolutely. Yeah, because the same people that I've lectured through
their books from that time and before that time talk
about this same agenda. Yes, absolutely, and I don't think
there's any question about it. I mean, I think it's
been a few years since you and I talked, but
even when you and I talked, I think around that time,
three years ago, I had lectured through maybe thirty or

(27:45):
forty of the writings of the global elite. I think
now we're up to maybe fifty or sixty. So you know,
we've been consistently going through the writings of these people.
And you know, you can go to somebody like HG. Wells,
who was saying exactly what's happening now one hundred years ago,
so he was riding in the twenties. You know, we're
going to have a global technocratic government, will have you know,

(28:08):
open free, free love, will have no families, will have
test to babies, We'll have you know, world currency, on
and on on. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Now I want to find your get your insights into
what is really behind this Luciferian our Satanic agenda. Is
this what these elitists really believe or is there something
completely different that we don't understand. Is is what they're
showing us just a form of symbolism to try and
get us on the wrong track. Do they really want

(28:43):
to implement a world of Satanists?

Speaker 2 (28:49):
I think that you can have differing groups that have
essentially the same goal. So you might have people who
are just purely pragmatic, power elite, very wealthy, people who
are just self interested. They may not be self consciously
worshiping an entity known as Satan, they still fit into
that goal. I think social Darwinism fits well into that

(29:12):
goal too, because it's just, you know, kind of like
if I'm at the top of the totem pole, it
doesn't matter how I got here. All that matters is,
you know, I'm at the top of the totem pole,
so you know, everybody else is below me and not
evolved and they didn't get to the top of the
dominance hierarchy or whatever. So there's that. I think there's
also people who do believe in some kind of a

(29:33):
of an entity or a being, or they think maybe
they're in contact with a higher level ascended masters, or
they think that it's aliens, or they think that it's
or or there's theistic Satanists who actually believe, like Michael
Loquino did, that you know, there's some kind of actual
entity named Satan that we can derive power from. So
I think all of the above. I mean, maybe people

(29:55):
who are transhumanist Luciferians, they probably maybe they see Lucifer
as like a symbolic figure of man stealing the technology
of the knowledge of the gods and then using that
as a ladder to kind of climb up to like
a tower of babble to heaven and become gods. So
I think you have all the above, and whatever the

(30:18):
differing mechanisms are, they all have the same end goal,
which is will achieve some sort of immortality slash semi
divine status through through technology. And so you know what
is magic, Well, magic is indecipherable from sufficiently advanced technology.

(30:40):
It's basically the same thing. According to Arthur C. Clark, he's
one of these sort of Luciferian characters. So I think
that's kind of the the way they view this process.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
Is that, yeah, it's also another thing targeting children, and
it seems to be normalizing or attempting to normalize levels
of mental illness to where they're putting people in positions
of power, people in celebrity positions that are certifiled they
are literally fucking crazy. As an example of how far

(31:13):
it's okay to be out there in modern society and
become successful these days seemingly Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
I read I think Daniel Esslon's Tavistock book. He talks
about the strategy intentionally promoting mania and psychosis, and so
this is actually something that I think the Stanford research
documents talked about as a technique of socially engineering. He
promotes things that are you know, absolutely destructive to society

(31:42):
on purpose. So it's actually a technique. It's not completely
crazy or oh they don't know what they're doing. No,
the social engineers do. And if you go into the
history of Tavistock, which you know, in the last year
we've done multiple talks on John Coleman's book on Tavastik,
Daniel Esslin's book on Tavistock, going into versus manuals and whatnot,

(32:05):
and it's actually Taviastock was, for example, who was behind
the push for all the trans stuff in the last
five years that's openly publicly one percent known to be.
Tavistock was the spearhead of that. So who is that why?
Maybe they matter? Yeah, well they're the you know, they're
the British psychological warfare experts going back one hundred years, right,

(32:27):
going back to World War One. It started with Wellington House.
Wellington House was who was doing World War One propaganda.
That turned into Tabstock Clinic and Tavistock Institute. So that's
the kind of brains behind the last one hundred plus
years of social engineering. Tabastak is who gave us people

(32:49):
like Walter Lippmann and Edward Burnez and all these people
who are the minds behind the strategy of using these
things for steerings the And so that's why I mean,
this is not this is not new either, with like
the pedo stuff. I mean this is like you know Kenzi, right,
Kensey was getting rock Fuller Foundation money. He was really

(33:11):
pioneering a lot of this push for that stuff a
long time ago. So this is this None of this
is new, and it's not just random organic stuff. These
are phases of a revolution that are pushed on purpose.

Speaker 1 (33:23):
Yeah, coinciding everything that we're discussing here, there are these
events to push fear into the public. Whether it's a
pandemic or a school shooting or the threat of war.
There's always something looming, Always something looming. What's next? Could
it be an alien invasion? I don't know, but it's
it would be more interesting than a lot of the

(33:44):
stuff that we've been seeing lately, that's for sure. But
with everything that's been put out there, from balloons shooting
down balloons or UFOs whatever whatever they are, there seems
to be a push to get society's consciousness moving in
that alien direction.

Speaker 2 (34:01):
Right. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean I've been saying alien
things to sigh out for at least ten years. I
think some of my first interviews on my YouTube channel
were with the Collins brothers and we were talking about
their essays that they had written a long time ago
about alien aliens being a psychological warfare technique social engineering,
and you know, it's just another possibility for how the

(34:25):
elite can tie this into something that's amenable to or
steers people into technocracy is ultimately what I think the
alien stuff goes towards. Doesn't mean that I don't think
there are. I mean, I think there's unexplained phenomenona o,
there's weird stuff out there, but none of that necessarily
leads me to conclude, Oh, well, then therefore it's extra

(34:46):
biological entities, it's beings from another planet. I mean, none
of that's true or verifiable on the basis of the
blurry images that we see. And I mean I've been
watching and studying and reading UFO stuff for I don't
know fifteen. I started reading some of the UFO community
stuff maybe in two thousand and six. I haven't read everything,

(35:07):
obviously nobody could, but you know, I mean it's a
top When I first got into conspiracy stuff, you could say,
maybe two thousand and three or four, pretty heavy. One
of the first things I got interested in was, well,
what about UFOs? Maybe we were lied to about that,
And I think everybody kind of has that phase when
you get into the stuff that you and I talked about.
I remember reading a lot of those books back then,

(35:28):
like the heh Neck and Lauren. I remember reading Skinwalker
Ranch books. I read a book about Lawrence Rockefeller and
his interest in promotion of UFO stuff, and then I
got into you know, Jacques Valie and these different figures,

(35:49):
And I remember too, I had read a Christian analysis
of UFO material to forget that guy's name, but so
I was interested in that topic from the vantas point
of different perspectives, and then I think I stumbled across
Collins Brothers material. And then they eventually put out, I
think a couple of years ago, their big fat book

(36:09):
Invoking the Beyond, which there is about a thousand page book,
but there's a three hundred page section of their book
which is all just kind of dissecting the UFO alien phenomena,
which I think is a bunch of ssyops. So I
would just say you could go, if you want a
longer perspective, you go read my watch my interviews with them,
or read their book. But I did it devote I

(36:29):
think a couple sections of part one end two in
my book to theorizing aliens as a psyop. And there
is documentation for that too. There's nineteen late sixties Brookings
Institute document for NASA which talks about how useful it
would be to re engineer Western religion. All the Western

(36:53):
religions would be able to be re engineered and retooled
if the alien discovery was promoted on a mount scale,
because it would mean that the story of Biblical redemption
and creation and the incarnation was not true. So then
now people say, oh, well then what is true? Oh well,
let's retool it towards something technocratic, right, So that's basically

(37:13):
admitted in that document.

Speaker 1 (37:16):
With there seems to be some very dark stuff going
on with the UFO agenda, especially when it comes to
like we were talking about earlier MK ultra mind control experiments.
I've heard testimony and accounts from people that believe that
they they at first they thought they were being taken
by aliens, but it turns out that they were being

(37:37):
taken by either people in our military industrial complex or
three letter agencies to perpetuate this UFO agenda and get
people to honestly believe that they were taken somewhere and
had interactions with off planet beings. But it was all
part of a horrifying psychological operation where they're actually taking

(37:58):
people and getting them to have these false memories about aliens,
all to perpetuate this UFO thing.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Yeah, I think there is a good parallel to be
made between things that we read about in MK Ultra
and alien stuff. I mean there's a lot of parallels
too with cults, you know, the occult in the alien world.
You know, there's many alien cults, and I think a
lot of those have a history of people connected to
military intelligence, connected to the CIA, long history of that,

(38:31):
and that's again been detailed in a lot of other books.
I mean there's even some you know, really bizarre alien
cults that I think that I speculate we're probably uh
test beds for various m culture type experiments and studies.
So culture are a great you know Petri dish for
studying how to how to create and control people with worldviews,

(38:54):
how to how to do mind control, all all kinds
of different stuff. Right, So to think that all of
this is, you know, everybody's a good actor and that
there are no nefarious actors in this stuff is just
kind of naive and stupid in my view. So so
I don't. Yeah, I mean, that's a whole other domain
of its own. And there are parallels too with like
ritual abuse and what people just describe in their cases

(39:17):
of ritual abuse and what people who claim to have
been abducted experience. So I would say that's a much
more likely explanation or parallel for what's going on, rather
than people really being abducted. I mean, I think there
can be you know, entities of supernatural phenomena going on too.

(39:39):
I mean, there could be the demonic involved in this,
so that's another factor. So I don't think we have
to squeeze everything into one single explanation. There can be
multiple explanations because there might be multiple different things going on.
But I think that there is a supernatural demonic element.
I think there's a black ops, you know, government element

(40:01):
going on, slash corporate element going on. There's an advanced technology,
right that's probably a lot of the visual phenomena that
we see is probably just advanced drones that we don't
know about, that kind of stuff. So I think all
of that stuff's going on, as well as the psyops
and you know cult, you know research and study test

(40:22):
tube stuff going on. I think all the above revolt.

Speaker 1 (40:25):
Now, you mentioned Kubrick earlier. I want to go back
to that for a minute. Do you think that he
was trying to raise the curtain and show the audience
what was really going on. Was he trying to be
sort of like a whistleblower in a way or was
he just tongue in cheek, just like a lot of

(40:47):
these other productions. He knows what's going on, and it's
like an inside joke type thing.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
I don't know people's motives. I mean, I've had a
couple of DMS with Vivian Kubrick, and she spoke as if,
you know, she thinks her dad was who he presented
himself as, right, like he was really critical of the establishment.
He might have had to work with figures from the

(41:16):
establishment at different times for different you know, projects, like
working with NASA or something like that, or this or
that lens, access to the Zece lens and this kind
of stuff, But she doesn't speak of him from her
perspective as if he was part and party to a
totality of conspiracy. I think a lot of the films
that we see present Kubrick as critiquing the establishment from

(41:42):
a perspective that was appropriate for that time period. Right.
So if you were in the nineteen fifties or sixties
and you're critiquing the establishment, you might be tempted to
think that, oh, you know, Marxism or fifty sixties leftism is,
you know, how we would go against the establishment, and
I think as you progressed, as he got older and

(42:02):
maybe wiser and was introduced to more powerful people. When
we look at a film like Durry Linden, we see
him critiquing the aristocracy, the old money, this kind of stuff,
and then we see, you know, is is Wade shut right?
This probably most advanced critique, which is, oh, actually there's
like these you know, zillionaire jeff Stein mcgeffrey sex clubs,

(42:27):
you know, that are really calling the shots right. But
probably Kubrick himself, maybe he was just a figure who
was conflicted. You know, maybe it's not like everybody has
to have only one motive their whole life. You know,
you can be conflicted. You can go through different phases

(42:47):
in stages. I know I have, right, I mean, I mean,
I think probably in two thousand and five I probably
would have thought maybe there are aliens or something, right,
I would have entertained that idea. And if people, you know,
fifty years from now look back on my work and
they could say, was Jade, you know, a devoted conspiracy

(43:08):
theorist the whole time? Well, I think I kind of
had you know, ups and downs, and I've changed my
mind on different topics based on new information. So I
don't think there's any kind of like one easy answer
about people's motives or were they always part of the
system or the establishment, or it's just too hard to
know that without some kind of hard evidence that exactly
showed that, right, Like there's if something was declassify you

(43:30):
know that, oh Skubrick was working with the CIA the
whole time, or you know, something like that maybe would
be significant in this regard. But I just don't know.
And I would just say I just kind of critique
the art as I see it presented. Now.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Speaking of like I said earlier, I mostly checked out
of Hollywood and watching movies and TV shows like that,
mainly because I've just been so busy with my career here.
But I do still enjoy a good movie. I do
still enjoy just checking out and letting my imagination go.
What would be some of the movies that you might

(44:06):
recommend I really enjoy, like science fiction or horror movies
I always have from the past, say five years, Which
ones did you really enjoy?

Speaker 2 (44:17):
Yeah, I mean they don't for me. They don't all
have to have necessarily some healthy, quote positive message. I mean,
if you're talking about only new films or films that
are new to me, because.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
They could be new to you, because you know, I
haven't seen films in a while.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
Yeah, So you know, my wife and I. One thing
we did was we got we got kind of sick
of really new movies because most of the time they're
not very good. Yeah, and we've seen most you know,
we've seen a large portion of movies from the eighties, nineties,
in two thousands, so we kind of started diving into

(44:53):
old Noah movies. So we went back and watched a
bunch of movies from the forties. The last few years,
we probably watched one hundred movies from the nineteen forties,
So I would say we did a We did a
podcast called Psycho Sunset Boulevard Fritz Lang's m and we
call it Hell on Reels where we went back and
we tried to find really interesting archetypal villains in the

(45:15):
nineteen forties movies. So that was that was a lot
of fun. I know. I liked the movie Come True,
which is kind of a recent independent horror film that
dealt with like the subconscious and the demonic kind of
manifesting through the subconscious in that way, I thought there's

(45:37):
I mean, they're kind of like mk ultra alter personality
type films more recently that I found worthy of dissecting.
We did well Basically, any movie with Anya Taylor Joy
in it, they're all going to be mk ultra alter
based movies. So I'm trying to remember that one that

(45:58):
we did that I had her in it where she
has an altar. She's the altar to the blonde chick
and she's the brunette chick who's in the nineteen sixties
has an alter. Anyway, I can't remember the name of that.
It's just escaping my mind, but that was pretty good.

(46:18):
I think I did a podcast with the guy from
Syops Cinema. We did a whole dissection of Anya Taylor
Joy movies. I'm trying to see where that is. I
could find that. We went back and watched a bunch
of Mel Gibson movies because those had a lot of
good kind of symbolic stuff. They had a lot of
good look I appreciate Apocalypto reviewing that. We've been watching

(46:41):
a lot of spy movies. I'm always doing that kind
of stuff. So last Night is so ho, that's the
movie I'm trying to think of.

Speaker 1 (46:49):
Oh, okay, that was on my list along with Come
True that you mentioned. I do have a list of
things that I might be interested in.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
So yeah, she was in a like an ai movie too,
called which is interesting. So, you know, it's weird because
she's almost always in these movies about this kind of stuff.
Like so she was in Split that's about personalities with
James McAvoy, last night in Soho that's like an altered
personality and in the Fractured Mind the menu is not

(47:16):
really about alternate personalities, but she plays a lady of
the evening at this weird kind of quasi cult compound,
so that's relevant. She's you know, she's the Witch and
the Witch in the I think one of her debut films.
There's another movie too that she's in. I think it's

(47:38):
called Marrow Bone that's about alternate personalities as well. Yeah,
so we did a bunch of analyzes of her stuff
and then but so it's a tough question. You're like, which,
what are the new movies that you like? I'm trying
to think of. It's just it's been a while since
I've seen like a new new movie.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
It's hard to, like you said, decent new movies.

Speaker 2 (48:02):
These are so rare, it's like, yeah, I'm trying to
think of We did a whole podcast analyzing the Born
series and Mission Impossible, and it was it was neat
to go back and review those because they both had
quite a few things that I've forgotten about or had
notice relating to kind of geopolitical conspiracies in the spy world.

(48:28):
But yeah, those are the ones that come to mind.
Other than that, I can't think of anything new.

Speaker 1 (48:32):
I wonder what the Hollywood elite is going to turn to,
what's going to be their next thing. If indeed it's
going the direction of all actors going to AI and
they're going to become obsolete.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
I guess they can go to whatever the new little
Saint James Island is and do whatever they're mean. Yeah,
it seems like a lot of them have like turned
into doing like and like investing in wherever they think
the next trends are going. For example, uh, when we

(49:10):
did the I was on a Tucker Carlson documentary. I
don't know if you saw that about the bugs eating
the bugs, and in that in that documentary they played
the clips of Nicole Kidman and Robert Downey Jr. They
seem to be invested in the beyond meat bug companies
and trying to get everybody to eat bugs. So it

(49:31):
seems like activist and the look the actors moved from
that into becoming quasi guru slash activists. I think that's
It's like the next easiest thing for an actor to
do is to take on some sort of pseudo cause, right,
which is usually some sort of a weird scam.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
It seems like there was too much time, money, and
effort put into the COVID operations and the jabbeitter jabbers
and everything that followed to just let that all fall
by the wayside. It seems like we've been moved trying
to move on to the next psychological operation and nothing sticking.

(50:09):
People are not it's not listening that same fear response
as as the COVID. You think that we may see
another pandemic type situation in our future to try and
recoup some of that.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
It's very possible. I think, you know, they kind of
have different cards in their deck that they can play.
They can throw down different cards, So I think that
one worked fairly well. I mean, may not have gotten
everything through that they wanted. But we have seen a
lot of the globally. You know, Bill Gates and others
have talked about the new pandemic. I think Tadro's talked

(50:44):
about the next pandemic. So they are sort of seating
and you know, testing the waters as to you know,
maybe we can do the you know, COVID twenty nine
or whatever the next phase will be. So yeah, I
think that's very plausible, and they have spoken in that way.
But it doesn't have to be that. We might have
ramped up global war, we might have a cyber pandemic.

(51:06):
That's another where economic collapse or all the above are
all very possible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Now, something I like to get all my guest thoughts
on is the possibility if freethinkers, if people on the
right side of history, if people that are questioning the
bullshit narratives right now are the majority of people. Because
the illusion is that everyone is woke and everyone just
wants to participate in any agenda that comes down the pipe,

(51:34):
and that's all that we will see from our mainstream
media and social media and their news. But is it
really that do we actually have more people that might
be coming around to the right side of history that
could be approaching a majority. Possibly.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
That's a good question. I always go back and forth
because it seems like at times you feel like, yeah,
it's most people are becoming awake, and then some event
happens and then you realize, no, they're not. So it's
I don't know, it's hard to say. I mean, it
seems like the popularity of the stuff that I talk

(52:13):
about and you know what we cover on the Fourth Hour,
Alex Jones, and you know, sometimes those topics get out
there in the mainstream and they get really popular. Seems
like RFK Junior is saying a lot of the talking
points that are correct what we've been saying in the
so called conspiracy world for so long, at least the
mainline stuff. So yeah, I certainly hope. So I guess

(52:35):
it just remains to be seen as to how effective
that will be, because you know, the elite have control
of the levers of power, so even they might not
have the majority of the population's minds, but they still
have the levers of power.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
So well, speaking of the leverage of power, I think
one of the biggest concerns I have is throwing around
terms of domestic terrorism amongst anybody who has a differing
opinion than our government who questions the narrative. This is
gonna be a very dangerous especially for people in broadcasting.

(53:12):
Are you concerned about the implications of this and the
future of broadcasting in general with all the censorship and
canceling of everybody.

Speaker 2 (53:22):
I mean, it's always possible that it could get that dark,
and but I mean, you know, there's no there's really
no other options. Right, It's like, well, I could do what,
like just shut up and not talk about it exactly.
I mean, I mean, if you don't, they're gonna they're
gonna march forward no matter what. So you might as
well talk about it, right, Like Alex says, you might
as well fight it, fight it because they're they're coming

(53:43):
either way whether you do or don't. So you stand
a better chance of fighting than not fighting. So I
think that's the practical approach for what I do and
what we do in terms of media. But yeah, there
is always that possibility. And we've seen them use that,
that playbook, that script for so long. I mean, they
did that, They've been using that, you know, us, all

(54:05):
of us in the conspiracy world. We're saying a long
time ago that the stories that they were saying about
the Muslims would be used on us, right, That was
a big point of like, oh yeah, oh we're nine
eleven nine to eleven, nine eleven, Yeah, but we were
always saying that the domestic spying and the legislation and

(54:26):
the removal of the civil liberties was eventually going to
be used on the rest of the domestic population. Here,
we are absolutely and we saw that, you know, with
the Twitter files and what they're doing with social media,
that that we were again once again totally vindicated right
where they're just taking anything this dissenting from the establishment narrative,
especially when it comes to the stabbes, that that makes

(54:49):
you a this info agent. And then the for example
the NATO SIOPS documents cognitive warfare, it actually specifies, yeah,
you'll be able to you'll be an ideological terrorist if
you dissent from the the official narrative. So that's what
they have planned in their syops documents. So I won't
be surprised when they roll that out.

Speaker 1 (55:07):
You mentioned RFK, it would be nice if we had
someone in the establishment that was on our side, but
could that even be possible? Could anyone that gets that
level actually make a difference. We have this collective need
for a savior in our political sectors, but it's never happened,

(55:28):
and I don't see if it ever could, even with
a character like him. What do you think?

Speaker 2 (55:35):
Yeah, I mean, I think if you're old enough to
have seen the campaign phase enough times in your life,
you know that in the campaign phase, the early phases,
they say all kinds of great things, all of them.
You know, you can go back to Barry Goldwater, right,

(55:59):
talking about the Council on Form Relations and the Trilateral Commission. Right.
Even Reagan at one point talked about the CFR and
Dave Rockville and Trilotter Commission, and you saw what happened
to Reagan, right. So uh So, I mean, you know,
I just think that what usually happens is that politicians

(56:19):
and people who are savvy enough, who've been through this
song and dance enough times, they know that when the
election is starting to ramp up, we're getting in the
pre election phase, you can say all kinds of true things,
and then when the election actually happens and they're in office,
nothing happens, right, It's back to back to business as usual.

(56:41):
So I always hope. Sure. I mean it's great to
you know, be great if RFK Junior did actually get
elected and do something different. But I think we've been
through this song and dance enough that everybody kind of
knows that. And the president is limited really in what
he can act actually do. He can do a lot
of maybe symbolic media stuff, but he doesn't he can't

(57:07):
really affect a whole lot of change. And ultimately, all
of these bureaucratic government positions, I mean they're great for
I guess the individual politicians enrichment, but they don't really
ever affect much change at all the overall agend of
the technocracy and the world global you know, new world

(57:27):
order that always marches forward no matter who's in office.
Why is that, Well, that's because politicians don't really call
the shots, and you know people. Every time people start
to wake up to that, then they get embroiled again
in another cycle of election drama, and then they go
back to picking you know, their candidate or whatever.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Or there's a huge false flag event that gets everyone
to need to feel like they need the government.

Speaker 2 (57:52):
They need this, you know, Oh we got to be together,
you know, right after exactly what Bush did with nine
to eleven exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
Yeah, man, it's very interesting, interesting times we're in. Jay.
I want to thank you so much for coming on
before you head out today, let the audience know where
they can find all your content.

Speaker 2 (58:12):
Yeah, you can find me at Jasonausis dot COM's my website,
which is kind of like the permanent, you know, archive
of all the past talks, lectures, interviews and so forth.
You can find me on YouTube under my name, Twitter
under my name and Rockfin as well under Ja Dyer
Instagram all of the just under my name. You can
get my books, you know that We've got this and

(58:34):
I've got a new book, met an Aeratives, which is
philosophy of symbolism. And then I've got my six hundred
page all of my geopolitical philosophical essays and one big thing.
You can get that at the website as well. And
then again July sixth, will be live in Hollywood with
Jamie Kennedy who will be doing stand up and I'll
be doing a bunch of talks there.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Excellent, excellent, Jay, thank you so much. We'll do this
again in the future. And until next time, everyone, have
an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow we'll see all
this today. I want to welcome Logan Yates. He has
been researching the occult for over twelve years, and in
his spare time, he will decode esoteric and occult symbolism

(59:15):
in our favorite Hollywood films. Logan, welcome.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
How you doing doing great? Chris? Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (59:24):
Thank you so much for coming on. Man, this is
gonna be such a fun show. You've recently viewed and
decoded the nineteen eighties class at Conan the Barbarian starring
the one and only Arnold Schwarzenegger, and you've found some
extremely interesting symbolism and programming within the film which you're
gonna be presenting today. This is gonna be fun. And

(59:45):
this was also one of my favorite films as a kid.
In fact, the whole Conan, the Destroyer, Barbari and all
those movies were great. It's been a very long time though,
since I've even seen those. In fact, I think after this,
I'm definitely gonna have to watch it. It's going to
be very interesting seeing what you come up with. But
before we get into the breakdown, let the audience know

(01:00:08):
anything you think they should know about yourself and what
brought you to decode movies and watch Conan the Barbarian again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Right on.

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
So, my name slogan. I've probably been looking into the
occult and conspiracy and everything that's tied into it in
spirituality for probably at least ten, maybe closer to twelve years,
off and on, literally just starting off just digging on
the internet on your own, right, and then you ended
up finding communities of people, and then you know, in
the last few years, content creators have exploded, like yourself

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and a few others that have put out fantastic things,
and that really helps you along. But as far as
Conan specifically goes, I got to credit my good friend
of mine. I had not personally watched this movie since
I was a kid, and I can't even think that
I had even seen the whole thing all the way through.
But obviously you know who Conan is, right, It's a

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It's a household name in America at this point and
has been for thirty some years. Right So, and he
keeps he kept at me, he said, Hey, man, I'm
telling you, watch Conan. It's you're gonna start seeing a
lot of different things that you didn't see years ago.
Watch it, watch it, watch it and me being me,
and I think a lot of us are like. This
says that whenever somebody tells you, hey, watch this, you're like,
oh yeah, yeh yeah, I will. I'll get to it.

(01:01:22):
I'll get to it, you know. Long story short, I
put it off so long. He actually came out and
visited me right out a month ago, almost a month
ago today, and I got so close to him coming
out that I hadn't watched it yet. I thought, I'll
just wait till he gets here, we'll just watch it together.
Well that ended up being I don't know what's the

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movie two hours long? I don't know, somewhere into three hours,
you know, because you'll see something, you pause, you keep pausing,
you keep pausing, you keep pausing. We're like, oh my god.
And he and I didn't even finish the movie. We
got off on to doing something else the next day
that he was here. But anyhow, I had seen so
much I thought this this is worth talking about, right.
It's not just seeing one thing or two things in

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a movie. It's is this is pretty much end to end,
and there's some stuff that's just really really on the nose.
So it's a movie with very little dialogue. So what
they do use as meaning, right, it's not. They're not
flooding it with words. It's actually a movie of very
few words. So what they do say, you know, as
meaning to it. So anyway, that's that. And me how

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I got here in a nutshell. But again, you know,
I don't think had my friend not pushed me to
do this, I probably wouldn't have done it. I mean,
I can see things in places, but I don't decode
movies and go on people's shows and stuff like that.
So this is the first time or for me. And again,
had he not pushed me to at least watch the movie,
I probably wouldn't even have made it this far.

Speaker 1 (01:02:44):
So well, I love it. Man, great introduction, and I'm
excited to get into this and I'm excited to rewatch
Conan the Bulgarian after this. So this is great. So
where do you want to start with this?

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
Well, I probably got to start with the slideshow that
I've put together so I could work on a screenshare.
So bear with me here. I'm gonna change some things around.
We're gonna start here, so we'll jump right into it.
So Conan's a nineteen eighty two film by Dino de
Laurentis since got Arnold Schwarzenegger and James Earl Jones, So
something that some folks might not know that it's actually

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set in a fictional universe that was created by Robert E.
Howard called the Hyborian Age, and he based it in
roughly ten thousand BC. So it's got some Norse references,
and it does mention in an Egyptian god by the
name of set Set, but the main antagonist, being James
Earl Jones, is the leader of a snake cult that
performs a ritual sacrifice to a snake god, or sacrifices

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I should say. So we're gonna cue the music, and
then I included this just because I really liked the quote,
which is that which does not kill us makes it
stronger by Nietzsche. So a lot of this movie is
narrated by one of the characters, and that's Mako the Wizard.
So after the credits Makeos cues in, he's speaking the

(01:04:01):
words between the time when the oceans drank Atlandis and
the rise of the Suns of Arias, there was an
age undreamed of and unto this conan destined to bear
the jeweled crown of Aquilonia upon a troubled brow. It
is I his chronicler, who alone can tell the of
his saga. Let me tell you of the days of
high adventure. So pretty good kickoff to the movie, right,

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and that was This is the forging of his father's sword.
Right here is what you're seeing, and it is uh.
I look at that as more of a moose. We'll
see a lot of rams heads later on, but this
is more of a moose skull. But anyway, we're gonna
move on.

Speaker 1 (01:04:42):
It's already bring back those nostalogies.

Speaker 3 (01:04:44):
I'm telling you, manes were eighties movies not the best
thing ever. They were, dude, And I raised my kids
on him, and even my children who are early twenties
and lateeens, even they'll testify that the eighties and early
nineties movies were just better. They really were. So anyhow,
we move onto a scene in a snowy mountain range,
and this is young Conan sitting with his father on

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a mountaintop. His father is sitting there telling him more
of this kind of a spiritual talk. So he's telling him,
telling him that the fire and wind come from the sky,
from the gods of the sky, and he says, Chrom
is your god, and so we'll get into that as well.
He lives in the earth. Once giants lived in the earth,
and in the darkness of chaos, they fooled Chrom. And

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I'm almost getting kind of like Nephelum type vibes whenever
you listen to.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
That's almost a direct Bible clue that once there were
giants in the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Earth, I know, right, So they're not messing around and
they do the shit through the whole movie. Man, it's
I'll get to that later anyhow. So, Yeah, it's kind
of got like a Nephelum type vibe here. So and
they're saying that the giants when they fooled Chrom, they
took from him the enigma of steel. Chrom was angered,
and the earth shook, and fire and wind struck down

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these giants and they threw their bodies into the waters
in the rage. The gods forgot the secret of steel,
left it on the battlefield, and we who founded just men.
And then then he goes on to basically saying, you
can trust no one in this life, not men, not women,
not beasts. The only thing that you can trust is
your sword. And this is the only actual picture of

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crom that I could find that actually looked legit. So
on the left you had this tree, earthy looking clay
being Cyclops with looks like maybe an olive eath on
his head. And on the right that's Saint Patrick, so
crom being more of a Celtic deity, so I'll get
into that. So being that Conan is a Samerian and

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the Samerians were based on the Celts, it only makes
sense that Conan would worship a Celtic deity named Crom
so Crom is short for Crome. I'm just going to
say Crutch c r u I a c h. I
don't want to butcher the name, which was the god
of the Celts prior to Saint Patrick. So Crome was
known for requiring the sacrifice of the first child of
every family and the firstborn of every livestock every Swayne

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or Halloween. So it was believed that once Chrome received
his harvest of children and livestock, that he would reward
them with the bountful harvest of crops. Chrome was often
depicted as a gold figure surrounded by twelve stone or
bronze figures, so throughout history and religion, we find the
twelve and the one. Right, whether it's Jesus, whether it's Horus,

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it's still that same twelve and one story over and
over again. You had your one God and then you
had your twelve followers.

Speaker 2 (01:07:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
So Chrome is thought to actually be the Celtic derivative
of either Chronos or Saturn, and we'll get into that
through the rest of the movie as well. You'll see
some Saturnian stuff. Even the I did find something out there,
and I'm this is the first time I've heard this.
I'm not one hundred percent sure on it. They're saying

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that Chrome could also be associated with Moloch, specifically specifically
in an old Irish tape called the Seas of droom
dom Guere and the Greeks may have also identified Moloch
as Cronos do to his child eating tendencies. And we
know the story of Cronos eating his own children, so
we can we're tying Crom to Saturn in this, all right,

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So back to the movie. So we enter a horse
bound army with a twin servent Embland. It has a
I'll go ahead and just tell you now, a dark
sun and a dark moon, and they arrive at Conan's
village and the snowy mountains and proceed to basically ravage
the entire village. So we'll get into the black Stone
and the Black Moon. They speak about it through the

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whole movie, and then there's some stuff later on that
is their interesting references. We'll just say that. Okay, So
this is Conan and his mother. They are cowering and hide,
trying to hide from this snake serpent army. Right, if
you'll look on the left tan side of her garment,

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you'll see something that kind of looks like a Masonic apron.
Do you see kind of where I'm talking about? Yeah,
all right, so I put the apron to the side there.
I know that seems minimal. This is ginger beer compared
to the stuff you're gonna see later. So i'll just
skip on past that. But you do have a reference here,
all right. So I stopped here surely because it's interesting

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in kind of a different way to me. So you'll
see her clothing again. So this is where the army
has her and Conan cornered. Right, So something that you
didn't see any because I didn't include it in the slide.
So right now, Conan's father is either being killed or
he's dead. They sick some dogs on him, so Conan
ends up with his mother while dogs attack and kill

(01:09:43):
his father. As the army approaches Conan and his mother,
she draws her sword. So here's something that I didn't
even pick up on this till like two days ago
when I was reviewing my stuff. So if his if
Conan's father is dead, that makes her a widow right
in this moment, which makes Conan a widow's son. Have

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you heard that terminology before? The widow's son? All right? So, yeah,
a nod. It's a Masonic nod to hire him abyss right? So,
and what else I have here? So yeah? In this scene,
the mother and child are also shown in between the
shoulders swords soldiers soldiers shoulders. I can't even talk. Have

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you ever seen anything in whether it's old texts or
or anybody documenting anything about the chalice and the womb
being in the shape of a V?

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:10:36):
So if you'll kind of if you can draw a
V from the vs of these shoulders of these soldiers,
they'll form a V and you have mother and child
in the womb right there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:45):
Yes, I can see it very far.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
All right, it is so moving. Moving on. So in
this next scene you'll see, Yeah, I just gave you
a close up of her clothing. More time, so we'll
click on through. So right now, keep in mind his
dad is dead and they've taken his father's sword. Enter
James Earl Jones aka Fulsa Doom. You'll see the all

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seeing eye in his armor. Yeah, matches, And I pulled
this straight off to the Masonic shop man they have,
They have an online shop where they buy all their
own merch right, so this is this is right? I
mean I went, no, why would I not go straight
to the source, right, I'm not gonna I'm not going
to try to go to shutter stock or anything like that.
I'm going to go to where they buy their stuff

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because then I know it's real. So anyhow, you'll know
more symbolism of the eye on his armor. Uh. One
thing I want to point out here, and I'll talk
about this a little bit later, is in the center
of this helmet headpiece, you'll see a little piece of jade.
So jade often associated with nobility and wealth, and also

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sometimes considered to be a protector of the generations, both
living and dead, as you'll see the ja throughout the movie,
and the more the conversations go, this tent to me
sounds like bloodline preservation. But we'll get into more of
that here in a little bit. So here is where
he officially cuts off his mother's head, right as Conan's

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holding her hand. So you see this in a lot
of movies right in the beginning, and there's a certain
company that does it more than any other company. And
it's not this. It's not universal where the parents will
be separated from the children in a tragic way in
like the first ten minutes of the film, right, So
we're repeating this pattern here as well, where the child

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experiences trauma watching either parents get taken away or parents
are killed right in front of their faces. They're still
I mean, it's again, we're seeing it again, just in
this movie. Now, don't get me wrong. This movie was
not marketed to children in any way. It was rated
R and there's some pretty nasty scenes in it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
But again, I still watched the hell out of it
as a kid, though.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
Oh we all did. Yeah, absolutely, As soon as you
thought they weren't paying attention, you're all over it. So anyhow,
I just wanted to point that out that we're we're
following that same pattern. Yeah, all right, just another close
up to James Earl Jones, just to get a better
look at it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
Always got me.

Speaker 3 (01:13:14):
It's like, dude, the worst wig ever. It's the worst
wig ever. Them bangs.

Speaker 1 (01:13:20):
Yeah, it's like a week with a bull cut.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Yeah it is. Uh, it's the eighties, man, it was
you know, eighty one eighty two, that was. And honestly,
but if you if you pay attention to just the
set production as much of the things I'm going to
be pointing out here, they did a great job on
this movie. I'm not going to say they didn't. They
spent a ton of money and the the artistry and
the stuff. They did a good job on it. They
really did. Alrighty. So here's a little bit closer picture

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of the black son on top and they're calling that
the black moon. On the bottom, it's a crescent moon.
You can see in the bottom there's a little bit
of a crescent there. And then you have the twin
snakes meeting each other. And there'll be more to go
this later here. So the village has been ravaged, the
parents are dead. What are they rounding up they're rounding

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up the kids. So, and this is Mako narrating, saying
the ashes were trampled into the earth and the blood
became as snow. So the army takes Conan's father's sword
along with the children. So leader fulsa doom. He goes
north and then the children are taken south to what's
called Vanier. So Vanier in norseensology, it's a race of

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gods is responsible for wealth, fertility, commerce, and they were
subordinate to the war like Easter. So there's supposed to
be natives of Vanaheim. And this is all tied into
the nine Realms of the World tree. I only threw
that in there just because there are Norse references and
I just wanted to give credit to it. But it
is obvious that this snake army has picked a random village,

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came in, ravaged it, and the only thing they really
wanted to harvest was weapons and children, mainly children. Yeah,
So what's funny is is Mako's narrating here and he says,
who knows what they came for? And in a movie
with very little dialogue, I'm led to believe that they

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want you to know it's about kids, right, so yeah,
and here's another one. So in Mako says, no one
would ever know that my Lord's people had ever lived
at all, which I feel like is a direct reference
to eliminating civilizations and writing history as they see fit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
So that's so interesting that he narrated who knows what
they came for? As they're showing you, they're they're hauling
the kids out there in chains man, that's correat.

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
When I'm done, man, you're gonna be like, how the
hell did note we didn't see this before because it
is so on the nose.

Speaker 1 (01:15:51):
Well, honestly, the last time I saw this, I was
probably about ten twelve years old, so of course I
wouldn't have seen.

Speaker 3 (01:15:56):
The same and I would not have picked up yeah,
because that was like my buddy, he was saying, he goes, dude,
watch it again. You're not gonna it's not gonna be
the same movie that we watched when we were kids.
And sure, shit, he's right, all right. So anyhow, basically,
what I'm getting at here is, you know, there you
have a snake cult that is coming in and eliminating
villages to where they're keeping these kids, and now these

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kids are no longer gonna your your kidnap. Children are
not going to know anything about their family history, their
bloodline or anything. Well that sounds like somebody can manipulate
pretty easily if you've erased their existence. Yeah, all right,
So now we've got the children and we're gonna enter
some rocky terrain where there's a Wheel of Pain, which

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is the carousel where the slaves have to push it
around for punishment. So the wheels of the the spokes
at the end, they all you'll see when I get
to they have like various animal head effigies on them,
when one's a bird, one's a reptile, and other's a fish.
I don't think it really means anything. I think it
was just good movie effects. But there is more to
the Wheel of Pain that I do want to point out.

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All right, So he gets shackled to the wheel of pain.
This is the beginning of him turning into Arnold. I
do want to point out, though, that he has this
redheaded handler that is with him for a good portion
of the movie. I couldn't figure out any symbolism within that,
but the red headed person stays with him for a while.

(01:17:23):
So he gets shackled in game on right. Okay, so
another shot at the Wheel of Pain. Pretty good movie
effects really, except it's still pretty cool. And this is
where he's growing up. He's pushing this big thing, so
obviously he is turning into Arnold Schwarzenegger. This was an
interesting greeting. I couldn't make anything of it. I looked online.

(01:17:47):
Does this make any sense to you at all? Chris?
Like kind of like mirroring your hands when you greet
and handshake instead of doing a crossbody.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
I couldn't see it now me either.

Speaker 3 (01:17:57):
I thought there might have been something to this, but
this one, I mean, I kept because it's an interesting greeting,
but I couldn't find anything on it. But moving on,
So I do want to point out that the wheel
of Pain here is a spoked wheel, and this is
symbolism that you're going to see throughout the rest of
the movie in various ways, and it's gonna be they
it's interesting how it all ties together. I'll show you

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so if you'll see that Conan is wearing a necklace
here that looks exactly like the Wheel of Pain. Right,
So didn't we associate chrome with either Chronos or Saturn?
I mean, that's documented that's not me pulling from thin air.
I mean, it's documented that chrome is associated as the
same as Chronos or Saturn. Right, So here we've got

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Saturn holding his famous spoked wheel on the left. Right. Yeah,
so in the center I included the Chaos magic star,
which is still used in the Greater and Lesser Keys
of the Seals of Solomon. And on the right you
have a Masonic apron that also includ dudes Seals of

(01:19:01):
Solomon that are also the same image as the wheel
spoke of Saturn.

Speaker 2 (01:19:06):
Weird.

Speaker 3 (01:19:07):
Yeah, it's all right here, man, there's more so Anyhow,
I do want to add that I mentioned that those
are the key the Seals of Solomon on the Freemasonry
apron because they openly admit that they part of their
practice is studying the words and the teachings of Solomon. Right.

Speaker 1 (01:19:30):
So, and I know you're going to probably get to
this after your presentation, but I'm pretty sure if you
look at most of the movies Arnold Schwarzenegger has made,
you'll find symbolism throughout esoteric and occult symbolism. Because we
were talking about that before. All the movies he's made,
if you go back and look at the list, you'll
start scratching your head and be like, huh, those movies

(01:19:52):
have some predictive programming in them. But we'll get to that.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
Yeah, he was. He was a big breakout star and
the perfect cat, the perfect vessel for or really and
they're I mean, don't get me wrong. I like to
think at it from their side. And if I were them,
I'd use a guy like I mean, I could see,
you know, say, I could make it work. You've got
a guy of that level of fame that's a perfect
vessel to convey your message. All right. So now what

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else this snake cult does is they turn out gladiators.
So he is taken as as he's basically on the
TRT wheel, the wheel of aka the wheel of trend.
You know, he's all hulked out now, so now that
he's worked out for most of his childhood, he's ready
to fight. So he's taken by an adult or as

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an adult by the van here to fight as a
gladiator so he can keep his life. So he starts
just walking through opponents, and he starts feeding off the crowd.
That starts kind of feeding that dark side of him, right,
and he's really, really getting to enjoy where he's at, which, really,
if you think about it, that is kind of similar
to how some traffickers treat their victim. They give them

(01:21:00):
a sense of worth and make them feel like they're
doing something with their lives, all while they're still using
and abusing them. Right right, all right, So this is
this one. I giggled when I saw it because over
the left. Keep in mind, like he didn't get this necklace,
that necklace he was wearing, he didn't get that until
he was working the wheel in Vannier, right. But they're

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literally up in the upper left hand corner. They've even
got Conan stadium merch basically.

Speaker 1 (01:21:27):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:28):
I mean that's the equivalent of like the finger at
the ballgame.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:21:33):
They're like, all right, we're team Conan. We like this
guy in the stadium merch our Saturnian stadium merch That that
made me laugh, all right, So he definitely has a following.
The crowd absolutely loves him. I just throw in some
of these poses just because they kind of look cool,
and it's just an appreciation of eighties movies. I don't
see any symbolism in the way he's standing or anything
like that, but it does look pretty cool. So yeah,

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and then he does often there's there's a lot of
arm crossing over the heart and bowing of head in
this movie. Here, I just say, he's, you know, showing
his appreciation to the mob. But somebody, some other people
may see it. Otherwise I could be wrong. Okay, So
this is this is interesting as well. So he was

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I need everybody to kind of really listen to this.
So not that everybody's not already. He was taken to
the east by wagon. So he's riding into the back
of this wagon with a chin and call around his neck.
But he appears content because, as you see Maco narrating
in time, his victories cannot easily be counted. So even
though he's got a chain around his neck and he's

(01:22:39):
a slave, he's a happy slave because his captors have
made him feel valuable. All right. So let's talking about
traveling from west to east. Have you heard the term
traveling man? Okay, so kind of like the Widow's son,
it's another Masonic term. So a mason or freemason is

(01:23:00):
denoted as a traveler or a traveling man while rising
from west to east, symbolically, when rising in the degrees,
the traveling Man denotes privileges awarded to a Master Mason,
and it's a phrase that would be recognized by other
Master Masons as a true solicitation of the brotherhood in
which they belong. So not only do they openly tell you,
at least twice in this movie that he's going east

(01:23:22):
from west, but not only that, but visually, now I
know they're going east. Well you know if you were
like facing a map that looks like they're going east
to west in this direction. But a majority of the
travel scenes in the movies, he's also traveling west to
east left to right on the screen as well. It
gets a little more interesting as well with this. So
he was taken to the east as a great prize

(01:23:45):
where the war masters. So he's going to the East
as he's ascending through the degrees to meet the masters
who are in the East. I mean, it's like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
A hero's journey within the right.

Speaker 3 (01:24:00):
Okay, all right, So I want to talk a little
bit about the ram symbolism here. So now he is
in the east, and they did put him with a
bunch of Asian looking masters, and I think even in
this scene he's holding a Katana, So they did kind
of honor some Eastern stuff too, But the RAM symbolism
generally relates to positive things wherever I found it, whether

(01:24:21):
it's Norse or anywhere else, such as like strength, virility, courage,
et cetera. But let's also remember that Conan's a widow's son,
and he's also now a traveling man, and he's meeting
with the masters. What makes me lead to believe, or
leads me to believe to make the next statement is
just things that I've found later in the film. But

(01:24:43):
I'm thinking that RAM could be an acronym for Royal
arch Mason. The Royal arch Masons are the American branch
of the York Right. Yeah, we'll see some stuff later
on that looks similar to some Royal arch stuff as well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:59):
Very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Yup. All right, so he's still in a cage at
this point, but he's brought food and literature and entertainment,
and we'll get into the entertainment here soon enough. So
here you'll see in the narration it says the poetry
of Katai, which I think is spelled incorrectly, but it's
subtitles and the philosophy is sung. So these are actually
real things. So Maiko's narrating that. You know, he's still captive.

(01:25:24):
But the philosophy is Sung is something that they brought
to him, and it's related to the Sung dynasty. So
I believe the philosophy is Sung follows operating under a
sense of governing the populace under a doctrine. So Katai
was a city in Xingjiang, China. Anyway, not much about
that other than the fact that I think they tried

(01:25:45):
to be somewhat realistic with what they were communicating. They weren't.
It wasn't your typical eighties movie where they might have
thrown together a cool set, but none of the symbols
made anything or they were like making up names. Like
everything that mentioning in here is like real stuff. That's
what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (01:26:04):
Okay, So he's traveling east, meeting the masters, learning the mysteries. Yep, yep,
and now he's about to get down Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:26:11):
And she and I really hate this scene because like
she's not cool with it, and there's a crowd you
could tell just from looking at Yeah, and there's a crowd,
like they said, they sit there and watch anyway, says Oh.
He also came to know the pleasures of women. Okay,
I mean, make sure what direction here. So they unlocked
the cell door and they deliver him a topless woman

(01:26:34):
for what I would think is breeding purposes. So she's scared,
but I will say they had him be gentle with her,
and he does cover her up. They sent her in
there with nothing and he gave her the blanket. So
good job there. But what's what I found interesting in
the scene is Mako says that he was bred only
to the finest of stock. Why would that matter unless

(01:26:58):
there's a product from that that you're interested in, you know.
So anyhow, Okay, so in this scene, he's out here
just practicing with the katana, and he keeps kind of
like walking towards the camera and it kind of pans in.
It's kind of a cool sword work scene. But I
want you to look kind of off to the right
where you'll see those spears, and you'll see this is

(01:27:20):
the first of the flur de ly coming into play,
which the Florida Lee is attached to a few different associations,
Mason's being one of them. So yeah, all right, a
little bit about the Fluri Lee. So you'll see the
symbol everywhere, And guys, I'm gonna say, just because you
see a flirt lee doesn't mean that whatever is attached

(01:27:40):
to his Masonic it's been something that has been recreated
and spread onto anything and everything. Right, So you know,
if you see a fence around something, I'm saying it
doesn't automatically mean that a Mason owns that property. I
think it's something you see in a lot of places, right,
But anyhow, I do want to say that are in
some places it does have me. So on the left,

(01:28:01):
I've got the emblem for the Boy Scouts of America,
which is a branch of the Massona of the Masons.
In the center is an old coat of arms I
believe from the UK, potentially Scotland. I should have got
the family on that one, but I didn't. Up top
top right is a true Masonic emblem with a G
and the fluridally in it, and then the bottom is
just an everyday fence that you'd see at a lot

(01:28:22):
of places, So that's interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:24):
In the the state symbol for Louisiana is also.

Speaker 3 (01:28:27):
A oh yeah, I was thinking about the saints on
the helmet. Yeah, yep, And you're from Louisianna. Right, yep,
that's what I thought.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Oh yeah, big, big free Masonic communities. They're huge.

Speaker 3 (01:28:40):
East of the.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Fact I was, I was somewhat raised by Freemasons. My
family had very high level associations with some Freemasons, and
I grew up amongst the Shriners and things like that.
So yeah, all over the place.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
My neighbor growing up was a Shriner. Great dude, though
I love it to death. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
Yeah, the Shriners were off.

Speaker 3 (01:29:01):
I don't think anything nefarious of this dude. He could
grow one hell of a garden. It's goods good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:07):
I think some of most of the people just do
it for community, and I think higher levels you might
get into the nefarious practices.

Speaker 3 (01:29:13):
And that's something that and I knew that you and
I would each touch on that before we jumped off
of here. That we're definitely not saying all of them
are bad. It's just the just the top bastards, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:29:23):
Yeah, just the ones that are you. I mean, And
I believe that there's light and dark Freemasonry. I believe
there's some very powerful We'll get into that benevolent practicing Freemasons.

Speaker 3 (01:29:33):
If you know, what I mean, right, that's whenever you
get into your greater and lesser keys and stuff like that.
So yep, alrighty okay. So before I get into this scene,
he did. Conan did get freed. So what's funny is
the person that freed him was that red haired handler.
The red haired, red bearded guy not only was his handler,

(01:29:53):
but he's the one that set him free. So either way,
I don't I couldn't find anything deeper that in that
exact relationship. But basically, now he's taken off running through
some rocky terrains and the dogs are chasing him. He
comes to some ruins and he climbs up and then
he falls into a cavern. So inside that cavern he

(01:30:14):
sees a tomb. He finds some flint and creates a
fire in there, and inside there, which will be the
next slide, he sees a dead king on his throne,
still wearing armor, crown sword. He's got it all right.
So that is this room right here, So this is
where he obtains the Atlantean sword. So there are Robert Howard.

(01:30:37):
When he wrote the Hyborean Age, he did reference Atlantis.
So we'll get into Howard at the end. Of this
as well, because not only is this movie full of
symbolism the author, there's a weird story behind him as well.
So no matter which direction I went with this, man,
I just kept finding stuff, so all the more reason
to talk, all right. So here's where he gets the

(01:30:58):
Atlantean sword. At first I thought that might have been
some symbolism on the hilt there, but I couldn't find
anything that matched it. So moving on, climbing out of
the cave, and he's got his awesome sword. He's still
looking at the.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
I had a cardboard sword as a kid, modeled after
that that I made myself.

Speaker 3 (01:31:18):
Very nice, very nice, very nice.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
I like that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:23):
Yeah, I think it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
I carried that everywhere.

Speaker 3 (01:31:25):
Yeah, I think at one point in time, man, whether
we were out in the woods or somewhere, we were
all conan for at least thirty minutes one day, every
one of us. Jones, yeah, yeah, bamboo, all of it, man,
we did it all, all right. So this is an
interesting spot. So he did you notice that? I want
to go back here? So here he's not He's got

(01:31:46):
like a cape on, but he's got a short sleeved shirt.
Keep in mind, he's pointing his sword at some dogs. Well,
in the next scene, he sure does have a lot
more furs. Yeah, he gained some furs on that once.
So apparently those yeah, those dogs turned into clothing, all right,
so dressed it all for looking like a mongol. He

(01:32:09):
walks through some rocky terrain and he comes to a
single hut with an attractive woman greeting him at the door.
So she offers him warmth and fire and questions if
she would like to warm himself by her fire. So
you probably remember this scene, don't you. I yeah, yeah,
very yeah, yeah, okay, so yeah, I don't have any

(01:32:30):
notes there. So we're moving on and it doesn't take long,
and she just turned straight feral. We're like, we're like
ten seconds and he no more than sits down, and
she's like crawling around on the ground. She's throwing something
into the fire to make it, you know, burst and increase.
And anyhow, she goes on and says says that they
prophesied Conan's coming from the north, a man of great strength,

(01:32:54):
a conqueror, a man that someday would be king and
would crush the snakes of the earth. Of course, as
soon she says snakes, he gets all excited, right, and
you know, he starts describing, as you can see on
the stream, he starts describing the sigil that the Black
Army's using, and she mentions the black Sun and the
Black Moon, and she also tells him there's a price
for her information, and then they begin to fornicate. So

(01:33:19):
during all that, she calls out the name Zamora and says,
it's the crossroads of the world. You'll find what you
want in Zamora. So they're nearing their crescendo and the
room goes completely blue, and she basically turns into the
suck of his demon, which she was the entire time,
and then basically he kicks her off. She rolls into

(01:33:40):
the fire, turns into kind of like a lighter of vapor,
and then she exits cackling, and he screams into the
air Crom. He blames Crom for a lot of his
misfortune through this whole movie. He screams out when something
goes wrong, he blames Crom. So here's her described, Like
I said describing, there's a converse station and then I

(01:34:03):
want to talk about the Black Moon and the Black
Sun and Zamora just briefly. So I'll get into I'll
start with the Black Moon and the Black Sun. So
have you ever heard of the black moon? Okay, all right,
I did not know what it was until I dug
into this movie the specifics, right, so I understood. You know,

(01:34:25):
when there's a new moon, basically there's no moon in
the sky and you have a black sky, but a
black moon. Since the Earth seasons are generally around three
months long, they usually consist of three new moons, which
is one per month, just like one full moon per month. Right,
So however, when a season encompasses four new moons, that
extra new moon is determined or is termed a black moon.

(01:34:48):
But what I found super interesting is the frequency. Did
you know how often a black moon occurs? No, once
every thirty three months? I know, right, Like, as I
kept going, I just kept finding shit. I'm like, get
out of here, man, are you serious? Like come on,
all right? So the Black Son, we know that there's

(01:35:12):
a direct connection with like Nazi Germany and the Black Son.
But we're going to get into some Black Son stuff
later that I think is a little bit more interesting. So,
but there is you know, on the surface level of Google,
all you're gonna find is Nazi this and Nazi that
whenever you look for the black Son. So let's talk
about Zamora. So Zamora is actually a real place. It's

(01:35:33):
two places, right, It's Zamora, Spain and Zamora, Italy, and
both happen to be well known for their Catholic churches
and Roman Basilica domes. So you're going to start seeing
a lot of Holy Roman Empire and what I think
is somewhat Catholicism or Catholic references throughout this movie. But yeah,

(01:35:55):
so in this film, she the Zamora is described as
a city of thieves and criminals, and it just so
happens again that you see that these two cities in
real life are related, how they're tied together. So one
other thing I want to mention is she also talks
about Zamora being the crossroads of the world. So the

(01:36:18):
crossroads the world is actually a real place, and it's
in Hollywood. It's a historic area and Hollywood is established
in nineteen thirty one and it's currently an open air mall.
So in a Hollywood movie, you have her calling out
a real place, but it actually is two cities that
have basically been fully infiltrated or taken over by whether

(01:36:42):
it be the Holy Roman Empire of the Catholic Church.
And then she also references a place in Hollywood, all
in the same line. Kind of weird, but anyhow, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Enough about that multi layers to all of Yeah, it's
just it is very layered.

Speaker 3 (01:36:57):
So and I have to share this just for appreciation
of eighty eighties movies.

Speaker 1 (01:37:01):
Yes, this is great, I remember.

Speaker 3 (01:37:04):
Yeah, it's good stuff. Man.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
I can't wait to get to.

Speaker 3 (01:37:06):
To you know. I I probably will watch Destroyer just
because I watched this one. But we'll see how it
pans out, all right. So this is also something I
found was actually pretty funny, is even though he had
that horrific experience where he basically ran into a demon,
a true demon, he still stays the night in her house.

(01:37:29):
The only thing that would make this better like like
go Monty Python style and like walk out with a
cup of coffee, like you know. Anyhow, he stays in
the hut overnight and he comes outside and I'll get
to that in a second, But he comes outside to
a man chained up named Subatai, and the man's begging
for food. Subatai is a thief, and an archer, and

(01:37:50):
he claims to be Hurrcanean from the Great Order of Kerlate.
So Hurrcanean in Howard's High Oorian Ages spelled with a K.
But there is a Hyrcanea here on Earth and it's
spelled with a sea and it's modern day Iran and Turkmenistan.
So what's funny is is Subatai is basically trying to
get Conan to let him loose because he says, I'm

(01:38:12):
going to be food for the wolves, and then modern
day Hyrcanea when he trains like that, it actually means wolfland.
So yep. So there, Like I said, they used a
lot of real stuff. All right, this is Zamora. But
I want to talk about the fire scene first because
they want to talk about God's in prayer and religion
a little bit. So prior to this scene, Subatai and

(01:38:33):
Conan are sitting around a fire. They just got to
know each other. He just freed Supatai from his chains,
so Subtizir. Conan asks Subatai what God he prays to,
and Subatai says he prays to the four winds. Conan
mentions that he prays to Chrome but he seldom prays
to him because he doesn't listen. He also says that
he has to be strong in front of Crome, and

(01:38:55):
if he doesn't know the riddle of Steel, that Chrome
will cast him out of Valhalla, which is Norse reference.
So one thing I want to point out that Subataime
mentions that the four winds are greater mentioned mind you,
they live in the sky. Krome lives in the earth.
So even from an ascension standpoint, Supata is already kind

(01:39:16):
of leagues ahead of Conan, being that he's already working
with entities in the sky versus a demigod in the earth. Right,
So basically he's saying that his god is stronger and
his God is the everlasting Sky, and Krom lives under
that God. So now we're in Zamora, the city on
the slide right now, and you'll see the Serpent tower
in the upper left. So when they first arrive, first

(01:39:40):
thing Supertai says is civilization ancient and wicked. So they
walk through a market like a bizarre area in a
Middle Eastern type of setting, to lots of people in animals,
typical Old world bizarre. So what they're really saying in
this scene, I think is once they're through the whole
city that anywhere you see these serpent towers, you're gonna

(01:40:01):
see absolute debauchery, all right. So they run into a
guy in an alley and they're trying to find the
Snake Army. So they start describing the emblem, right, and
they don't ever call it a symbol. They keep referring
to it as a magnificent standard. In the whole movie.
They say, it's it's just a magnificent standard, that's what

(01:40:23):
they keep calling it, all right. So this guy says,
the only snakes I know of are those of Set
and those cursed towers. So we'll get into Set and
the Temple of Set later on, but I do want
I wanted you guys to see that because it is
a pretty good little chunk that I go over after
the movie's finished. So Set was mentioned as an Egyptian god.

(01:40:43):
That was I believe brother Osyrus, if I have that right.
But there's a little bit different take on Set from
what I've found. But they do say the main complaint
in this and you heard this from a king as well,
that you'll see that in the later on. A king
mentions that the common narrative here is the snake cult

(01:41:06):
has spread to every city, is infected everywhere. They keep
kind of hitting on that this was kind of funny
two or three years ago. It was just another snake cult.
But what I think that says is is it's not
abnormal for cults to exist. It's not abnormal.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
But that was funny.

Speaker 3 (01:41:27):
Anyhow, you're gonna love this. So they're leaving town and
these women, they're kind of like stepping over them to
get through. The women are all like sitting on the steps,
and she says a pittance to protect you from evil,
and Conan he doesn't care for that, and he's like,
now you guys are He calls him stupid sluts and

(01:41:48):
keeps moving on. Basically, it wasn't He wasn't offering or
going to participate in their solicitation. Okay, So here's where
it gets a little bit wild. So remembering the scripts
and scenes are intentional, Conan's line here is he points
at this tent you see with the boys and what
they seems to be a cow that he says, can
you believe that? Huh? And he points in there, so

(01:42:11):
in there is three young boys that are wearing white
turbans and white towels for underwear, and there looks like
grooming a white cow. So we're gonna go forward. So
the reason you see everybody looking this way towards you
is because Conan just punched a camel and like knocked
it out cold. But let's look a little bit closer.

(01:42:32):
You get a better look, and you can see what
the one of those boys is holding is like a
round globe like piece with a handle. And what I
came up with that is a global scrucager, which is
like a Holy Roman Christian type of wand or religious symbol.
But what gets even worse is do you see the
guy there with the horns on his head in the
priest's clothing. There has not been an underclothed person outside

(01:42:56):
of a sex scene in this movie yet. And now
in this seat, in this city that's infected by the
serpent cult that's ancient and wicked, and you see all
these different types of debakery. At the end of town,
you got a man by himself with three young boys
in their underwear, and.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
It looks like he's got a hat with ten dildos
on you.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Yeah, it's it's I think it's supposed to represent like
horns or fire or evil, but he is wearing a
priest's outfit basically with yeah. So anyway, there's more iggots.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:25):
So and here's the Cruciger, which oh yeah, and uh,
I literally just googled like religious round globe ones and
I finally found it, and I'm like, that's that may
not be exactly a sure, hell looks a lot like it.
So here's a good close up for you. You've got one, two, three,
four boys and the pedo King here. So now you

(01:43:48):
can add pedophilia to the list of the snake cult.
One thing I wanted to bring up is Zamora sounds
a hell of a lot like Gomora from the Bible,
doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:43:58):
Yeah, what did they do? They do this shit?

Speaker 1 (01:44:02):
They yeah, debacher, Yeah, yeah, disgusting.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
Absolutely, it is a lot more luck just before we
move on at the anyway, enough about that. So here's
where we're entering the one of the snake towers, and
we're on a mission to take on the or steal
the eye of the serpent. I'm gonna try to move
a little quicker, all right. Valeria says this a few

(01:44:28):
times in the film. She asked, do you want to
live forever? Do you want to live forever? I didn't
go much deeper than that as far as research, but
she does bring it up multiple times. So they're on
their way to get the eye of the Serpent. We
have our team of three gets good in here too, do.

Speaker 2 (01:44:45):
You remember this?

Speaker 3 (01:44:47):
So they descend the tower bi rope, only to find
themselves in the middle of a ritual sacrifice to the
snake of God. So in this movie set is a
snake God. So everybody all in one with white candles,
so white meaning purity for the potential sacrificial offerings, they
need to be pure, so we often use white. So

(01:45:09):
in the center, you're going to see a priest, the
dark priest kneeling in the center and he's got his
robes on. And just above the priest you can see
a little bit of something that I'm getting ready to
get into a little deeper. So this guy's the high priest,
second only to Tulsa Doom. So you'll see in front
of the priest is the all seeing eye and what
I would call horns of Saturn. Yeah, yeah, all right,

(01:45:35):
one thing before I get the symbolism in here, I
want to go ahead and just talk about the lighting
in the room before I talk about anything else, and
it happens to be purple. So, Chris, you've done episodes
on purple and its use in different applications before, so
you know we're on the same page there. But you'll
note that the room is lit with a purple center

(01:45:55):
light and purple flames on the candles. I know the pictures,
it's an eighties movie. I appaul Joys for the grainy pictures, guys,
but it's an old movie.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Hey loo, pretty damn good for you know, being taken
off your TV and being an eighties right on.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
So anyhow, one thing I want to talk about is
the use of purple here. So purple is often known,
whether you know, if anybody's familiar with the chakras of
the body or any other thing in the universe that
may have a chakra system, purple is the color that
represents the crown or the mind. Well, you've got a

(01:46:31):
whole bunch of people that you need to put under
a spell. I would say that these guys that they're
going to do that, purple will probably be the one
they should use, you know what I mean? So anyway,
definitely I think, being that this is a spell of
the mind, the purple is intentional in this scene. So
I will go on and you're going to see purple
associated with spell casters and victims. Actually throughout the film,

(01:46:53):
you'll see it in other places as well, not just
in this room. So let's move on. So actually I'll
go back real quick. So here I want to point
Now you've got, you know, the infamous all seeing eye,
which is all this is just the beginning. It is
in like so many different scenes right in your face.
So you've got the all seeing eye. You've got above that.
Some may call that a crescent moon. I would more

(01:47:14):
say it's a Saturnian reference to the horns of Saturn.
But one thing I wanted to point out is look
at the shape that these candles, the light fixtures are
hanging from. They look kind of like a handlebar mustache
kind of all right, So I'm gonna move forward. Yeah, okay,
So look you here, So your your shriner's fez is

(01:47:36):
basically your horn upside down. On the apron, you've got
the all seeing eye. And then on this belt buckle,
which is pulled straight from the Masonic shop, you've got
the exact shape. That's the fixtures of those candles hanging
from the ceiling. It's a match on everything that anyhow,

(01:48:00):
moving on, so you got Valeria, she's getting ready to
go incognito. I think she takes out one of these girls.
One thing I do want to note is they even
went as far these flames are purple on these candles.
It's it's hard with the picture, but if you were
to watch it on.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
TV, remember that too.

Speaker 3 (01:48:16):
And there's future scenes you're going to see with torches.
They even put purple flames on the torches. All right,
Here is a horrible picture of a giant snake with
the eye at the serpent at the top. But and
then the next scene, so here Conan and Supertai have
crawled through a tunnel to the room where the eye
and the giant snake are at. So, sir, thank you.

(01:48:44):
I was getting ready to say it was like you
look and then you beat me to it, so X Yeah,
And honestly, you know what's funny is is when we
were sitting on my couch watching this for the first time,
my buddy points it out and at first I was like,
it's not on the nose enough for me, and he's like,
are you sure, And I.

Speaker 1 (01:48:59):
Was like, it's pretty I know.

Speaker 3 (01:49:01):
I don't know why. I don't know why I've been
that moment for some reason. I was in denial on
that one, and I don't know why. Anyhow, Yes, it's
pretty blatant now that you look at it. And that's
actually a jade necklace hanging in the center. So more.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
And it also looks at the bottom it's got two
serpents that are coming together.

Speaker 3 (01:49:16):
Yeah it is. And it's the and it's the blue
and white color scheme just like they use. So yeah,
right in your face, man. Yeah, so they did it again.
They did a good job on the set. It looks good. Here.
Here you got your black son. So again I'm gonna
give credit on the detail because they did do a
good job with it. So here's your black son and

(01:49:37):
a snake facing you. Here's your black moon. But if
you'll look at the crescent moon, it's actually the same
direction as the shriner's emblem this time. Yeah, but even
more so, thank you, thank you. It's a different snake. Well,
who else used the ora boros? That's an or that's

(01:49:59):
an It's it's a grainy picture, but that's an Ora
borrows around a compass and square including the skull and bones,
and and you got nine stars, you got nine stars,
you got your counsel on nine.

Speaker 1 (01:50:12):
That's a secret society symbolism soup right there.

Speaker 3 (01:50:14):
Oh, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. So I want
to go back. I want to make sure I didn't
but yeah, they do use the roboros, right, So, yeah,
I didn't miss anything. So we're gonna move forward. There's
a better take on the eye of the serpent, which
is also a purple stone. All right. So one thing
that they do often in this movie is they line

(01:50:35):
those horns up with a head. They do that more
than once. So back to Valeria upstairs. The rituals moving forward,
So you have two women beginning to undress the third
woman and they're prepping her for sacrifice, and the whole
time the priest. She's making eye contact with the priest
because that's what keeps a spell in place, all right.

(01:50:55):
But again, horns in front of the head. So now
they've got her typical typical you know, just your typical
snake cult stuff from the run of the mill snake
cult stuff. All right, he's got more aprons on his
head dress. And then again we've got horns, not only
horns on the head, but the snake emblem over the heart.

(01:51:18):
So not only are they controlling the mind, but they've
got control over the heart as well. All right, So
here's where she just about drops in. But in the meantime,
while Conan was trying to steal the eye of the serpent,
a drop of sweat hit the snake and woke it up,
so he has to commence with chopping that wood and

(01:51:39):
go into town. So him and him and super Tye
take out the snake. We're back up here. You're gonna
love the next picture. So they paused on this for
a couple seconds. There is another woman that you know
where I'm going with this, So there is another woman

(01:51:59):
that in on the left hand side. But they held
this for like two seconds. Yeah, dude, and it lines up.
He's got six on each side, six girls, six girls
on each side.

Speaker 1 (01:52:12):
So yeah, Now, for those listening on the audio podcast,
I highly recommend you go to rock Finn or Rumble
and watch this the video version because he's showing some
great a great slide show that shows exactly what we're
discussing here. So it's much better as one of videovers.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Right, and I guess I should explain. Yeah, I apologize
for those of you that are on audio. This is
a priest with six six sacrificial women on each side,
and then above that it's a picture of the Last
Supper and it's really interesting how they line up. So yeah, anyhow,
all right, so back to the woman in the trance.

(01:52:50):
The priest collaps and she drops down into the pit,
but the snake wasn't there, so she screams, and then
basically they all kind of figure out that snake's dead,
and they figure out something's wrong, and then and chaos ensues. Yeah,
and they escape, and now they're back in Zamora, the
city of Debakri. And as you can see, Supatas already

(01:53:10):
found a random woman to hook up with, so didn't
take him but a couple of seconds. All right, So
here's where Conan He's given Valeria the eye of the Serpent,
and the rest of this is just a big party,
you know, And even Mako even narrating, saying all manners
of pleasures and diversions were indulged, so they if it
was to be done, they were doing it. Partying it up. Yeah,

(01:53:34):
all right right here in this scene, armed guards enter
in and armed guards have grabbed them and now taken
them to the hall of King Osrich the Usurper. So
this was actually a real person. Uh he was. The
name Osrich means divine ruler, and he was a real
person in Anglo Saxon King in Northumbria a d. Seven

(01:53:56):
eighteen to seven twenty nine is when he ruled so
and allegedly they were comets witnessed at the time of
his death. But that's all I know about this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:04):
Movie.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
There's some good stuff in this room too, so right away,
I mean, I guess I could get into you. You
probably see stuff already, but yes, yes, sir the king.
At first, he acts like he's pissed off because the
Serpent Cult is now on his ass because the crew
sole the eye of the serpent and killed a big snake.

(01:54:26):
At first he's mad, but then he starts laughing and
he's like, now I'm on your side, We're cool. I
hate those guys. And he basically goes on and says,
I hate the snake cult. They're ruining everything and they've
kidnapped his daughter as well, and he actually refers to
refers to Tulsa Doom as a demi god in this scene.

(01:54:47):
So not only do we have gods, we have demi
gods as well. So you'll notice one thing I want
to point out is again it seems like anybody that's
on the side of the hero shows this ram or
what I'm gonna go out. I'm gonna jump out on
a limb and say Royal arch Mason reference the shield.

Speaker 1 (01:55:06):
Also, I see another huge The shield.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
Is what I want to talk about. The shield is
what I want to talk about, right, and before I
get into eagles and serpents and things, I am not
an expert. I believe you know, people like Matt Lacroix
have probably done a lot better stuff than I have.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
But yeah, Matt's presented some great stuff about the eagle.

Speaker 3 (01:55:26):
And a lot of my information literally came from Matt
because he knows the stuff. He seems extremely intelligent. But yeah,
when I knew we were dealing with a snake cult
and I saw that eagle shield, I was like, oh,
here we go, So moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:55:40):
Yeah, so just before you move on, just so the
audience that's listening, there's a shield that've been behind the
king with a giant eagle on there, and he's if
he's supposed to represent the good side of things or
the the polarizing side of the Serpent cult. The eagle
has always been this symbol of the opposing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
Energy, right, and I believe it's not that either one
or good or bad, just opposing. Yes, yeah, And I
have a slide on that where we'll talk about the
Sumerians and kind of how far back it goes one thing.
All right, So and this I'm gonna I'm gonna probe
you on this one man, because there is a flur
de lee and a spider on this guy's chest, right, yeah,

(01:56:24):
bur enough, yeah, right right there? Yeah, and a spider.
There actually is a flur to lee spider out there.
It's not called that that. There is a spider that
will occasionally form a flur to lee on its back,
and it's called the False Widow.

Speaker 1 (01:56:41):
Interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:56:41):
I couldn't find anything else on it, though, but I
thought that was like, that's neat. And actually, if you
go back, I believe up here at the top is
a spider as well. Maybe I don't know if you
can see it, yeah, but either way, so here he
is telling them, you know, everywhere we have these evil

(01:57:04):
towers and I'm sick of it. He's just basically complaining, saying,
I'm done with the shit and I'm down with you. Guys,
help him take.

Speaker 2 (01:57:10):
Care of it.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
So here's where he talks about the fangs of the serpent,
which is a dagger. He shows him this dagger and
he explains how the cult influenced a son to kill
his own father with it. And to me, that kind
of sounds like a representation of how today there's certain
entities that like to get in between parents and children.
It's a kind of a common theme, whether it's governments, schools,

(01:57:35):
child protective agencies, YadA, YadA, YadA. We could go on,
you know. So anyhow, he's afraid that his daughter's gonna
end up using that on him. So here's the beauty
of this. I love this boom. He throws it down
and they stop here. So they want you to see
left hand snake, right hand left hand path, right hand

(01:57:58):
path is what I'm That's what I'm getting out of this, right.
So I thought that was quite interesting, So I will
let's see here. So yeah, he drives a dagger into
a wooden table by the throne, and like I said,
this frame shows your left hand and right hand path.
And then he explains to the team that no matter
how many riches a man accumulates in life, it becomes

(01:58:20):
a prison without the love of his child. So he
bestows with them each He overflows each one of their
cups with rubies, so basically fund the rest of their
journey and then some he actually tells them it's enough
rubies that they can start their own kingdoms. So I
want to talk about rubies for a second and red stones.
So rubies are often found in Masonic rings and jewelry,

(01:58:41):
and rubies are historically known even outside of Freemasonry, to
symbolize health, wisdom, wealth, and success. So in the Masonic world,
rubies are red stones are regularly chosen for hear this.
Hear me out again on this one. In the Masonic world,
rubies or red stones are regularly chosen for brothers who
have completed the fourth Degree. And not just Masonry, but

(01:59:02):
Royal arch. So yet again, Royal arch Masonry, which is
the American version of New York. Right, So this guy
gives ruby which is awarded to you know, people who've
completed the fourth degree. He's also wearing a rams head
not to mention that, but hasn't Conan already worked his

(01:59:23):
way potentially through a few degrees in his journey already,
and now he gets handed.

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Ruby's very cool. That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:59:33):
And again this is one guy's opinion, just just my
opinion's observations.

Speaker 1 (01:59:38):
It makes sense, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:59:39):
Eagle and serpent, so this is good stuff. So the
pick on the left is a mosaic from Constantinople with
an eagle biting into a snake holding up with his claws.
And we've seen that there's some American government stuff. I
think that has similar imagery, but I didn't choose to

(01:59:59):
go with any American on this slide. In the middle
is a Mexican flag with your Mexican eagle killing a snake.
The third picture I cannot take credit for my buddy,
the one that prompted me to watch this movie, watch
this movie. I introduced him to the whole eagle and
serpent thing. He hadn't heard of that before. And next thing,

(02:00:20):
you know, he sends me this picture of Johnny Depth.
So if you look on each hand, it might not
be an eagle, but it is a bird on the
back of the palm. And then up above the wrist,
a serpent on each one of his arms. Yeah, so
eagle and serpents everywhere, right, all right, now, I want

(02:00:41):
to go into a little bit about where that kind
of comes from. And again, this is kind of this
is an explanation that I listened to Matt. I've never
met Matt, but I think he does great work. So
remembering that these symbols have been reused over and over
over time, and they though meaning might not be linear
from the way of used five years ago the way
it choose today, I just want people to understand that that,

(02:01:04):
you know, serpent doesn't always mean bad, eagle doesn't always
mean good. Sometimes it can be the invert, right, So,
but what I gathered is that the eagle inserpent symbology
goes all the way back to ancient Samaria post flood,
where two brothers were given control of society in the world.
We're talking like post Alluvion time period. And I'm sure
most of the people listening have heard of Enki and Enlil.

(02:01:26):
Right from what I gathered that Nki was supposed to
embody the serpent and en Lil was to be embodying
the eagle ended up being ah if I encorrect me.
I'm wrong, Chris. But it was a war for the
human race, wasn't it. Yeah right, Okay. Serpents originally supposed
to mean balance and higher consciousness, but eagle also meaning

(02:01:49):
something of high consciousness, meaning that you can see everything
because it's the highest flying birds. So neither one of
those descriptions really have any negative connotation in either one
of them, if you you know, at the base level.
So again, it's not so much to symbol, it's how
they're using it and who's using it in my opinion, Yeah,
I agree, all right, Okay, So now they're onto the

(02:02:12):
Mountain of Power, so the team learns they need to
again travel east to the mountain fortress Serpent Tower. So
again we're we're still traveling east. So Valaria is talking
about Tulsa Doom and how he's a sorcerer that can
summon demons. Then we're going to talk about demon summoning.
There's a couple characters in the movie that talk about

(02:02:32):
demon summoning. Then we're going to talk about some stuff
later that touches on that as well. Basically at this point, though,
Valeria is saying, now let's just take the money and run.
We got enough rubies to live three lifetimes. We don't
have to, Tulsa. Doom's too tough. We can just let's
live our lives together. She's already fallen in love with
Conan at this point, so she wants to take the
bag and just buff it. He says, nah, I'm going

(02:02:53):
to kill this dude. So he's traveling the countryside holding
this green jade emblem, trying and you know, approaching travelers,
and they're all kind of giving him the no. I
don't know what you're talking about. So but then he
runs into the children of Doom, which are these people
walking in robes holding flowers. So they do tell him

(02:03:16):
which way to the fortress. But there's something with the flowers,
and we'll get into that as well. So before that, though,
Conan rides up on what appears to be excuse me,
I'm sorry about that. What appears to be an area
with stones stacked up in rows and columns. It's got
skeleton soldiers still standing with their armor on. Mako narrates

(02:03:37):
this as supposedly a land of giants and gods, and
this is actually where Maco first comes into play. So
he exits the hut you'll see he's got some talismans
hanging on his body. The main thing in this scene
is is the first thing that he says to Conan
is if you're bringing trouble, all summoned demons to get
rid of you. So back to back you go, her

(02:04:00):
complaining two slides ago about also did n't being able
to summon demons. Now he meets a guy that can
summon demons, and there's demons later, so we'll run into
that as well. So I want to look at the
three triangle symbol you see on his shoulder there. This
is not an exact match. If it was the exact
match to anything, it'd be the Triforce of Wisdom from
the legend of Zelda. That's the only thing I could

(02:04:22):
find that thing to be an exact match on. Now
it does look similar to some Norse triangle symbols, but
again it sure does kind of look like some royal
arch masonry stuff as well. Now it's not exact because
the tryant you'd have to move one triangle on top
of the others.

Speaker 1 (02:04:40):
But either way i'd be interested to know, and you
might have researched this if the writer or producer were freemasons.

Speaker 3 (02:04:48):
Well, I I didn't get much into that, but there
there's a there's a tie to a guy later specifically
Michael Aquino that I think is there by the way
they mentioned something in the in the movie. But as
far as actual ones that are actual like Scottish or
York Ride or anything like that, I couldn't find anything.

(02:05:10):
But then again, they're also not more likely not going
to openly admit it. I mean, I don't know, is
there anybody in Hollywood that actually.

Speaker 1 (02:05:17):
Probably be difficult to have to find that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:19):
We're talking like archive dot org, wayback machine. Yeah, thirty
five layers of the Onion Deep. So anyhow, it could
also mean the three Fates, and we've all heard about
the three fates in grief Greek mythology, right, So I
won't go too much deeper into that, because I do
you know, we're already in an hour and there's actually
quite a bit more to cover. So he asked them

(02:05:40):
if he can summon demons. Obviously, Mako says yes, But
then they talk about mounds. The mounds have been here
since the time of the Titans. I won't go any
deeper into that, but Chris, I've I've watched enough of
your stuff. I know that you know, we know that
there's a part there's parts to mounds that parts of
our history that probably we don't understand that are related

(02:06:02):
to mound builders, is what I'm getting at.

Speaker 1 (02:06:04):
Yeah, kings, sure that mound builders were related to before
the construction of some of the greatest megalithic structures, might
have been some prototypes or something, right, different things.

Speaker 3 (02:06:19):
All right, So he's saying kings are buried in them,
great kings, all right. So few things to note in
this scene. First, Mako asks them, you've not come here
as a pilgrim, have you, Well, a Masonic traveling man's
journey is also called a pilgrimage. Yeah. Anyhow, the one
thing I want to note here is the flowers. So

(02:06:41):
Conan tells him, well, there's symbolism in the back. You've
got the spoked wheel of Saturn, and then they're using
random triangles as well. But the flowers in his hand,
not only are they purple, but he says they're for
a girl. Well, we know what girl he's talking about.
He's talking about King Arlsterrix's daughter, the one who's under
Tulsa Doom's spell. Well, if they're using purple to cast

(02:07:01):
a spell, you'd probably want to use purple flowers to
try and break it as well, right, if you're targeting
the crown or the mind, So a little bit closer.
But I the flowers, man, I dug deeper on the flowers.
To me, they look like forget Me nots. Guess who
else likes Forget Me nots?

Speaker 1 (02:07:24):
Hey?

Speaker 3 (02:07:26):
Those two that are pins. The two pins are straight
from the Masonic shop online.

Speaker 2 (02:07:33):
There.

Speaker 3 (02:07:33):
So forget me goots come in a few different colors,
purple being one of them, and they're also white, and
you'll see the white flowers later on as well. But
it's a five pedaled flower. This is directly from the
Grand Lodge of Iowa to Forget Me Not. During the
nineteen thirties, this little delicate five pelled flower which became
which is similar to the common vallet, became a symbol

(02:07:54):
of Freemasonry in Nazi Germany and exemplified the spirit dedication
of courage of men who literally held their Masonic principles
and beliefs in the faces of gravest, in the face
of gravest danger. So it is odd that Arnold's father
was a what they called in per Wikipedia storm Trooper,

(02:08:16):
and he's also using the symbol the flower that became
a Masonic symbol during Nazi Germany. That's you know what.
I'm just here, all right, I'm just here anyhow. So
here's where they transition from purple to white all in
one scene, which to me could be a nod to

(02:08:41):
ascension or it could just be something different issue. Yeah,
it could be a continuity issue, could be but anyhow,
And now we are at the we're basically at the temple,
so it's a giant ritual. They've all got forget me
nots hanging around them, hanging off their X, this, that
and the other. You got two guys here that they've

(02:09:03):
got something burned in that fire, and they're dipping down.
They're holding the smoke in their cloaks and they're getting lit.
They're breathing that smoke in, getting a good buzz on. Yeah,
see him bending down there, and everybody's just kind of vibing.
It's like Joshua Tree all over again. Out here. Everybody's
just hanging out.

Speaker 2 (02:09:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (02:09:21):
They got this guy just doing some candle magic and
banging some rocks together and got a rock balancing on
his head. He's probably the CEO of Google or something,
or some tech it's probably some tech bro out there
out there. Yeah, he's yeah, he's out there on an
ayahuasca trip and he's gonna slate a ten million dollar
deal the next morning. All right, So we have more

(02:09:43):
blue and white in the robes. I think it's more
of like a navy blue. But either way, we're we're
all kind of doing our thing here in the ritual area.
One thing I want to bring up here, try to
do it quickly, is this is the Tower and it
looks a little bit to me like a key. So
it's a grainy photo, I apologize, but but this is
the fortress to Doom. To me, it looks like a key. Well,
guess who else likes keys. So on the left we

(02:10:07):
have the Vatican, which looks a lot like a keyhole.
And actually if you look in the center of that,
you've got the same wield spoke of Saturn. The center
is Washington, d C. I encourage anybody to go to
Google Earth on their own and find this. But the
top of the photo is the owl, the basically the
Capitol building. That's the handle of the key. And if

(02:10:28):
you follow that road, and that manicured grass all the
way down the knob. The end of the key is
the Lincoln Memorial at the bottom, and then the right
hand side we have we'll shoot, we have Buckingham Palace,
which also looks like a real long key. So anyhow,
don't all three of these places all have giant obelists

(02:10:49):
as well? Yeah? Okay, right on, So we like keys
and we like keystones, yep, alrighty, yes, So moving on.
So if it seems like if they're in black, they're
a priest or a priestess and there, and if they're
dressed in white, they're basically a follower or a sacrificial victim,

(02:11:10):
and just more scenes here, we're nearing the end, but
I have, like to say, a lot more to cover.
So here's an interesting scene. So off to the side,
Conan is approached by what appears to be a priest
and this gets really creepy. So the dialogue short and
within a couple of exchanges, Conan's already aware that the
priest is basically wanting some of that young man, so

(02:11:31):
it's pretty gross. He's got to forget me nots around
his neck to kind of protect him in this situation.
Although everybody else is wearing him too. So the priest says,
where do you think you're going? Conan says, I'm afraid,
He says, afraid to bear yourself. You shouldn't be afraid
to bear your own body. Basically, he baits him into
the situation. Conan sees that the priest is wanting him,

(02:11:54):
and he finds a way to take his clothing, and
here he is with that goofy free and grin. Now
he's incognito. One thing that my friend brought up that
I thought was really interesting is is that whole scene
was implied. There was nothing ahead of that that would
have told you that that priest was there to try
to hook up with him. It was kind of like

(02:12:16):
an automatically known thing, which is quite interesting if you
really think about it. Anyhow, so he's trying to fit
in with that goofy freaking Grimo's face. This ends up
getting him in trouble. He shows him the emblem from
the temple, and obviously nobody else has that, so he

(02:12:36):
doesn't do anything right now, but this ends up sending
a message down the line. He ends up getting found out.
So here they're lining up to go in all your
human sacrifices, your worshipers, children of doom. Here's a good
shot at the temple, which again, they did a good
job constructing this stuff. They really did. All right, there's

(02:12:58):
your all seeing eye again lining up. Here's these guys.
I'm gonna click through this. This is odd. So he
makes his way up to this reflecting pool and this
woman asks him what does he see and he responds
with infinity, which I thought was a very unique response
for somebody that has had the life that he's had.

(02:13:22):
All right, so now you've got Ostrich's daughter there in
the center, and then the Eye and the horns above,
and we're gonna click through again with the temple. Some
of these I just doubled up. There's James Earl Jones
and he's addressing the crowd. So he's basically saying, I've
watched you for a thousand years, so that to me

(02:13:46):
leans towards a long bloodline. He got the Eye and
the horns directly behind him. He asks them who still
fears death and who will not face emptiness? Which interesting words.
All right, back to Ostrich's daughter crossing her arms again. Sorry,
I'm trying to speed up just a little bit, not
really skipping anything though, So this part's pretty important though.

(02:14:08):
So they've captured Conan and they're working him over pretty good,
and then him and Tulsa Doom are going back and forth.
Doom's saying, you killed my snake, you stole the eye
of the serpent. And then Conan comes back. He's like, dude,
you ravaged my family and killed my parents and stole
my father's sword. And then Doom remembers him so and
then he talks about the riddle of steel. But in

(02:14:29):
this scene this is interesting. So Tulsa Doom he says,
I'm gonna show you that flesh is stronger than any
steel that you can ever imagine. And he calls this
girl up top to the cliff ledge and he coaxes
her and he basically gets her to jump and commit suicide.

(02:14:50):
As she's on her way down, it's blurry, it's a
motion picture, but as she's on her way down you
have to see the eye and the horns and then
the suicide scene. But basically what he's saying is is
I don't need a sword, I don't need a gun.
I can brainwash you and get you to do anything
I want. Well, who does that sound like It sounds

(02:15:11):
like today's media. They don't fire a single bullet and
they move entire societies to do what they want, all right,
So this is where he gets ordered to be crucified
on what's called the tree of Woa. Does that look
familiar to you at all?

Speaker 1 (02:15:29):
Yeah, it looks like the damned monstrosity in the Vatican.

Speaker 3 (02:15:33):
Okay, I know what you're talking about there, and that's
interesting because I didn't think about that. But it looks
a lot like what's called the Great Basin bristle cone pine,
which is also deemed to be well one of a
certain tree in the species is also deemed to be
the oldest tree in existence, reaching an age of over
five thousand years old. Now I know that's disputed with

(02:15:54):
this old Japanese spruce that's supposed to be like ten
thousand years old, but some may know it as the
tree of Mythuselah. So that it looks a lot like
the one that they built in the set, doesn't it.
It's interesting that they chose the tree of Methuselah, I
thought anyway. So the biblical story about Methuselah was a
male character from the Bible who was noted to be

(02:16:15):
the oldest human ever living of nine hundred and sixty
nine years. Well, False Doom claims to be one thousand
years old, so there's a correlation there. According to the
Book of Genesis, Methuselah was the son of Enoch and
the grandfather of Noah. But I want to bring up
real briefly, being that we brought up Enoch, I want
to talk a little bit about Enochian magic and the
Greater and Lesser Keys of Solomon. Right, so, as we know,

(02:16:38):
the Mason Study literature related to the construction of King
Solomon's temple, but possibly unbeknownst to some, the Greater and
Lesser Keys of Solomon, which are grim warriers or documents
that describe how Solomon first summoned and entrusted demons to
build his temple, but then with a ring he received
from the archangel Michael, Solomon sealed the seventy two demons

(02:17:00):
sometimes referred to as the Goiesha, into a brass vessel
and cast them into the lake and Babylon. I say
all that to say this, what I just described in
The Lesser Keys of Solomon sounds very, very very similar
to what John Dee and Everard Kelly were doing when
practicing in Nokian magic to see the future and basically
report back to the English throne. It also saw a

(02:17:21):
Buckingham Palace in a slide earlier. Right, Okay, So what
I'm getting at is is we're we know that these
guys look to Solomon, and now we're using a tree that,
in my opinion, when you look into the Bible, goes
back to Enoch and how Ainochian magic and Solomonic magic
are actually very similar. I may have not done a

(02:17:43):
very good job explaining.

Speaker 1 (02:17:44):
That, No, that's great, this character fulsa doom. He seems
to have parallels to Solomon in some ways as well.

Speaker 3 (02:17:54):
Sure, and honestly, at first, whenever I spelled out Flsa doom,
it's almost the exactly that are in Methuselah. But then
I did like a almost like a Jamatria calculation line.
It's not a match, it's not close enough to even
really throw in here. But at first glance, I thought, man,
those letters like seventy percent of the letters are the
same in each word so or each name. So anyway,

(02:18:16):
moving on, here's him on the tree. He hangs here
for a couple of days and then Subatai comes up
and saves him. This gets interesting. So he's in bad
shape on this tree and they have to save his life.
So they know that since he's in his weekend state,
the demons are going to come for him. Valeria is

(02:18:38):
in love with him. She wants to save Conan. She
asked Mako, can you save him? He said yes, but
the gods require a price. Valeria offers up her soul
to save Conan. But they also have to draw all
these ruins and schigils all over his body as spells
to try to keep the demons from coming in the night.
I want you guys to remember that Valeria offered up

(02:19:01):
her life to the gods for Conan. All right, So
here they're drawing all these basically protection spells on his face.
I couldn't really get a match on any of the symbols,
but I still thought it was interesting. They've got him
tied down, armed, legs and everything to where he can't
get away. Here he is secured. Demons come in the night,

(02:19:22):
but the demons don't win. Here you'll see Mako performing
a certain mudra with his hands. I couldn't find an
exact match to this, But what I could find it's
two separate ones combined and one that protects the third eye.
I think it's the index fingers are supposed to tect
suppose supposed to protect the third eye, and the little

(02:19:44):
fingers extended are supposed to protect the crown, which I
found fitting. How it's matching the narrative in the movie
that even the mudra that he's using is actually something real.
All right, he's alive, He's well, we're all happy. Here
he is more triangles in the background. This is an

(02:20:05):
interesting scene where he's doing his sword play. You got
a split triangle back here. He's making a triangle with
his arms and his left eyes closed. So I'll move
on from that because I do need to get some
other stuff. Here's where they say they think that they
hear the Mountain of Power is hollow. Sounds a lot

(02:20:25):
like people that might work in tunnels to me, but
that's just my opinion. Here they're putting on war paint,
which I think looks pretty cool. Here's the interesting part.
So they enter that they're entering false the main fortress,
the base of the head boss, and as soon as

(02:20:46):
they come in, they see bodies being cut up and
put into a soup. So now we have cannibalism. Yeah,
So here's bodies being chopped up. Here's the guy's carrying
the soup. Here's a carcass in the back getting, you know,
feel dressed as you may say. These guys actually have
a little faux pile where they spill some of it

(02:21:07):
was kind of funny. Here's the war paint, which I
think the war paint looks awesome on these guys. Here's
more bodies. Is them seeing the bodies being hung upside down?
So I want to bring attention to this scene right here.
So does this look like the faces of people that
are getting or witnessing a giant orgy? Not really, They

(02:21:30):
actually look like they're so one thing I do want
to point out here, and it gets proven later on.
Valeria is the one in the center and she is
the only one in this photo with one eye completely covered.
So both of Arnold's eyes are covered with paint. Super tie.
If you look at his one eye, it is still
has paint on it. She's the only one with one

(02:21:50):
eye covered, and she's the only one that offered offered
herself up as payment for something that she wanted from
the gods. Will that will play out? Trust me. Here's
a giant orgy. So we have child trafficking, the eradication
of civilizations, we have forced gladiatorship, now cannibalism and orgies,

(02:22:15):
all in the same cold, all on the same cold.
Here's the soup. I couldn't get the jaguar reference, although
I wanted to include it just because they were beautiful
pictures of the jaguar, but I wasn't sure what they
were trying to do here. Here they're serving the soup
to the people in the orgy. Here you'll see she
takes a bite out of a hand right here, just

(02:22:37):
chows down on it, all right. Moving on, now we
have up here is Tulsa di Doum, King Oswick's daughter.
And you'll also see the Tree of Woe aka the
Tree of Methuselah in there as well. So here they
use you can see it better here, but they're wearing
purple clothing. It's a dark purple, but it is purple.

(02:22:57):
Moving on, kind of a Jabba and Leah scene here
a little bit. I think Star Wars is first though,
But yeah, so, and I did this just because it
was a cool pick but the snake eyes for James
Earl Jones moving on another orgy shot. They are just
tearing it up, having a great time showing they want

(02:23:19):
and they want you to look at this jaguar. They
show it twice. So here he is full on snake.
I think he's picked up that conan and the other
two are there because he starts he starts his escape
right here. He starts to slither on out, so you'll
see a head coming out of the soup here, So

(02:23:40):
it definitely definitely cannibalistic. Okay, this is where they've escaped
and now they're tracking them. He strings out a snake
and he straightens it and he shoots it like an arrow.

Speaker 2 (02:23:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:23:53):
One thing I want to bring up here is in
this scene, he says, now this is Tolosa to do,
James Earl Jones. Now they will know why they are
afraid of the dark. They will learn why they fear
the night. I can't remember if it was you or
somebody another creator. I thought somebody had covered something on

(02:24:14):
the human subconscious and why we fear the dark. I
can't remember what the reasoning was. I don't know if
you've done any had you done anything, on that somebody
I've listened to somebody in last year. That's covered that anyway.
I wanted to note that that I don't have anything
else to add for that piece. But here she is
saying the wizard I told him I would pay the gods.

(02:24:35):
But it's just as you know. And I mean we
could go through any magazine covers or any any famous
movie posters. It seems the ones that have sold their
soul and paid the price tend to have one eye covered.
So I think that is an odd coincidence. Okay, To
dispose of her, they have to burn her on a

(02:24:55):
funeral pyre. And now that's done, and they are baiting
and waiting for Thulsa Doom. They have set up a
place for him to come to them. There's Subatai with
some more horns on his helmet. And this is where
Arnold's wearing a horned helmet as well. So call it

(02:25:17):
what you want, but we'll move forward. So I do
have more things to cover. Here's where the snake army enters.
This is the final battle, So James Earl Jones all
right again, the rams head has only been associated with
the hero's side in this movie. There's a remraculously, he

(02:25:38):
comes up with a rams head shield out here in
this place that he's never been to before, all right.
And then there's Valeria again. She's dead, but she's materialized.
She ended up taking out one of their soldiers that
was getting ready to get him from behind, from behind,
and then she says, do you want to live forever?
And she's dressed like a Roman goddess. I didn't do
any helmework into goddess. She might be dressed as there's

(02:26:02):
plenty of other things in here. So but here they're
looking at victory except for this guy. He's still there,
so Conan takes him out and then it's still the
famous crossed arms bow head pose, all right. Final scene
back at the fortress, Doom is addressing everybody holding a

(02:26:26):
candle and they're all right in there with him, vibin
what he says, and this is really interesting. He says,
the purging is at last at hand. The day of
Doom is here. All that is evil, all their allies,
your parents, your leaders, those who would call themselves your judges,
those who have lied and corrupted the earth, They shall

(02:26:49):
be cleansed. In your hand. You hold my light, the
gleam and the eye of set this flame will burn
away the darkness, burn you the way to paradise. I
thought it was quite interesting that it was him the
one that said all that is evil, all their allies,
your leaders, your judges. Interesting choice of words. Interesting choice

(02:27:14):
of words for a movie that has a shitload of
free Masonic symbolism in it. So all right, anyhow this
is And then here Arnold starts to come up behind him.
Doom tries to sweet talk him, basically tries to pull
that cult leader that you know, whether you know he
embodied his own David koresh or or Marshall channeled his

(02:27:38):
inner Marshall apple White, and tried to try to talk
Conan into sticking around and joining, but he ends up
cutting off also Doom's head with the shard of his
father's sword. Here he is holding the head in front
of the crowd. But this gets better. Boom horns over
Arnold's head right there, dead center, So I'm and then the.

Speaker 1 (02:27:58):
Eye he makes wings be yeah, I know.

Speaker 3 (02:28:01):
Ain't that something right? And he ends up I mean,
and this was this was his breakout movie. It wasn't Terminator,
it was this. He did movies before this, but this
was his breakout. So to me, this is them saying
this is our boy.

Speaker 1 (02:28:14):
That's crazy man. Yep, that's great, great job the code.

Speaker 3 (02:28:18):
Yep. So there's and then here's everybody just distinguishing or
extinguishing their torches and the pool of water that is
actually the shape of an eye. All right, So there's this.
So I am going to stop screen sharing. Where is it?
Stop sharing? Red button? Okay, close this and maximize this.

(02:28:44):
Are we good? All right? I did have a couple
of other things that I wanted to talk about if
you had time, I know, a little bit in but
I wanted to talk about how you'll hear him reference
the Temple of Set. Yeah, so it just so happens
because the one thing I noticed is is like the
way Set, the way I read that Set was portrayed
in history, didn't really match up to the way that

(02:29:06):
Set was being portrayed in this movie. Right, And keep
in mind this movie was made in nineteen eighty one
nineteen eighty two Hollywood movie Hollywood, California. So in nineteen
seventy five, the Temple of Set was founded in San Francisco.
So for those of you that don't know what the
Temple of Set is the Temple of Set And this
is actually per I actually pulled this from just from Wikipedia.

(02:29:30):
So this is the state approved message that you're getting
and it's still not real great, and this is this
is the washed state approved version. But the Temple of
Set is. They're calling it an occult initiatory order. Founded
in nineteen seventy five, a religious movement a form of
Western esotericism. The Temple of espouses of religion known as Setianism.

(02:29:54):
Practitioners are known as Setians. They say. It's sometimes called
a form of Satananism, although this term is not often
embraced by Setians and contested by some academics. Anyway, the
temple was established in nineteen seventy five by Michael Aquino,
who was called an American political political scientist, but more
importantly a military officer. This dude was like a high

(02:30:16):
ranking military officer and focusing on like psychic.

Speaker 1 (02:30:20):
With yeah, some terrifying psyche shiting during Vietnam.

Speaker 3 (02:30:25):
Yeah, so I'm gonna say it again for those in
the back, A high ranking military officer is the one
who formed a Luciferian temple in San Francisco, Like hello, hello.
Anyhow so he Basically, his excuse was, well, I didn't
like what Anton Levey was doing, so we're gonna break
away and we're gonna have this cleaner, nicer version. Okay, yeah,

(02:30:49):
all right, yeah, we'll believe that. So anyway, if you
ever wanted to go and check out their website, it's
Zephyr dot org x E p Asmler dot org and
you'll find some interesting stuff on there about the Temple
of Set if you're going to sit there. If for
anybody that wants to look at that and say it's
not Luciferian after looking at that, well okay, to eat

(02:31:11):
their own. But anyhow, there's that. I want to talk
about Robert Howard a little bit. So he was the author.
He's the one that wrote the Hyborian Age. This guy
was born January twenty second, nineteen oh six. Died June eleventh,
nineteen thirty six. So you already see where my gears
are turning, just with the dates and the age and

(02:31:32):
all that. Right. He died when he was thirty. He
actually blew his brains out in his parents' driveway. The
guy was known he wrote a lot of stories like
this about Conan and Sumerians. But he was actually a
well published author. The reason I don't think he was
ever really mentally stable. From what I read, he was
very close with his mother. His mother was on her deathbed.

(02:31:54):
The way it reads online is is the hospice nurse
that was in house, he said, is she ever going
to wake up from the coma? She says no, And
at that time he went out and said, all right,
I'm gonna kill myself. What's odd is is the last
six years of his life he became extremely good friends
with HP Lovecraft. Although they never met in person for

(02:32:15):
six years, and this is verbatim, they vigorously wrote back
and forth, exchanging ideas of society, racism, politics, everything including writing.
They were homies. So what we know about Lovecraft, I
think it's quite interesting that this guy was tied to
him in that way. What's odd is is this stuff,

(02:32:38):
The Hyborian Age didn't get published until six years after
his death. I'm not sure who got their hands on it.
It's not surprising that it got published because he actually
the year of his death he was like an all
time high in sales. He was actually doing really good.
So somebody probably saw the cash cow and grabbed it up.
I get that. But the Conan movie was actually first
written by Oliver Stone. It turned into that script even

(02:33:00):
per stones exact words, was just cocaine feudled madness and
there's no way we're ever going to make this into
a movie. So Dino d Laurrentis grabbed it death with
John Millius and then what you saw is what you have.
So do we have like five minutes where I can
just run through arnold movies really quick? Okay, So a
little bit about Arnold. We know he's Austrian. We know

(02:33:23):
his dad was part of the Nazi Party. I'm not
gonna for the sake of time, I'm not gonna go
real deep. But his dad applied to these Nazi organizations
multiple times and then finally got accepted. So let's just
say he wanted him. I do find it funny that, again,
his dad was very pro Nazi Party. Did you know

(02:33:44):
that he was married to Kennedy? You knew that Maria
Schreiver was actually Kennedy? Right? Okay? Found that interesting. So
let's go into the movies. Right, So we know he's
a very successful movie star. But one thing I do
want to say is is Chris Pratt is his son.
In law as well. I know man that one hurt.

(02:34:04):
I was like, I didn't want to know that. I'd
rather not know that anyhow. So first movie was Hercules
and New York nineteen sixty nine, very low budget, just
him showing his muscles. Long Goodbye was another one, not
very good in seventy three. Just when I say not
very good, probably nothing of noteworthy. His first real breakout

(02:34:27):
was Conan, but before that he actually did the Jane
Mansfield story, and we know there's some darkness that surrounds
the death of Jane Mansfield as well. So it's funny
that he was in the Jane Mansfield story in nineteen
eighty but then he did Conan in nineteen eighty two,
Conan the Destroyer in nineteen eighty four. I haven't watched
that one yet again. Terminator was also eighty four, and

(02:34:50):
we know basically what the Terminator is about. Sky Net
very similar to what we are experiencing right now, with
like the robots that come from Boston Dynamics, the massive
survey state that we live in. We are in that time,
red Sonia, it looks like another Norse Viking movie. In
nineteen eighty five, I don't know much about that. Commando
nineteen eighty five, not a bad movie, but I kind

(02:35:11):
of feel like it might have been romanticizing the Honduran
drug war a little bit. Oh yeah, you know, so
we're kind of like we're still we got we're pro war.
We're pro war.

Speaker 1 (02:35:21):
Here.

Speaker 3 (02:35:22):
Raw Deal is where he is a FBI chief or no,
he's an outsider that fakes his own death and re
emerges as an ex con and basically goes in and
destroys the mob from the inside out. So we got
him fake and his death in this movie Predator, which
we know what Predator's about. It's like an alien movie,

(02:35:42):
but it's still also kind of like pro war. Running Man,
this is a good one. It's twenty nineteen. America is
a totalitarian state. Or the television. The favorite TV program
is The Running Man, a game show which prisoners must
run to freedom to avoid a brutal death. Well, that
sounds what like squid game that was released in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
Hunger Games all that The Hunger Games.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
Was twenty twelve, yep, so, but yeah, he was made
a scapegoat by the government, imprisoned, and he had an
opportunity to make it back out again by being a
contestant on the show, but scapegoat by the government. All right,
Red Heat was basically trying to make us scared of
Russia because Red Heat was nineteen eighty eight, so it
was pumping that Cold war propaganda. Twins Twins is where

(02:36:27):
him and Dane DeVito are twins, and Dane DeVito got
all the shitty jeans and Arnold got all the good genes.
But basically they openly admit in the beginning of the
film it's a genetic experiment because there was what like
six or eight fathers. Yeah, there was like the men
they pulled, so they're normalizing gene experimentation. Total Recall is

(02:36:48):
about a board construction worker who dreams of visiting colonized
Mars and that the company Recall is a company that
implants false memories into people's brains. Well, there's been people
that have been talking about that stuff for a little
bit as well.

Speaker 1 (02:37:03):
Also goes into the simulation theory and things like that.

Speaker 3 (02:37:05):
Absolutely, here we go kindergarten Cop. We remember what kindergarten
Cop was about, right about him trying to catch this guy,
but he goes under cover. It's Kindergarten teacher. The thing
about this movie that we should not forget is the
scene where he goes, all right, kids, we're going to
play a game who's your daddy? And tell me what
does he do? Tell me who's your daddy and what

(02:37:28):
does he do? So basically, right there is the school
getting in between kids and parents. What do we see
during COVID. We saw during COVID at the school getting
in between the kids and the parents. We're normalizing it
here in nineteen ninety all right, and we had Christmas
in Connecticut, which is nothing notable. He had like a

(02:37:49):
cameo in Insino. Man. Here's another movie that comes up
in his movie list, and it's really interesting because he
only had a cameo in it. Do you remember the
movie Dave Present in Tomado?

Speaker 1 (02:38:00):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 3 (02:38:02):
That movie is about presidential body doubles. Yeah, the whole
movie is about president's body guns. He has a cameo
in that. Then we know Last Action Hero, which I'm
not gonna hate on it. I love that movie and
I always will. I love Last Action Hero. It's a
fun movie. It is. I'm sure there's stuff in there.
I just I'm not gonna look for it in that one.

(02:38:23):
I just got certain things have to remain sacred man.
So all right, barretta Island those about drug trafficking, True
Lies here's a good one.

Speaker 1 (02:38:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:38:32):
True Lies was in nineteen ninety four, and that's whenever
they started going after the Islamic Jihatis in the movies.
Weird how the timing on that. So you got red
Heat in nineteen eighty eight about the Russians. Now we're
going after the Middle Easterners and Desert Storm, Desert Shield area.
So another pro war So Junior is a nineteen ninety
four movie where Arnold becomes the world's first pregnant man

(02:38:54):
and delivers a child. Boy. If that doesn't sound like
the last three years of our lives, it's all it's
predicted programming Eraser nineteen ninety six. He is a top
gun in the US Marshall Witness Protection scheme where he
erases people's past and he deals with their future. So
more of erasing identities and showing that identities can be

(02:39:19):
erased if they want to. All right, then jingle all
the way. No, I'm not gonna worry about that, and
then you have the worst Batman movie that was ever made.
Which was Batman and Robin in nineteen ninety. It's so
bad it's good. In my opinion, I.

Speaker 1 (02:39:35):
Don't even think I ever saw that one man. I couldn't.

Speaker 3 (02:39:37):
Oh you know what, it'd probably make you laugh. It's
super cheesy. It's George Clooney Batman. So all right. End
of Days nineteen ninety nine, the private security guard finds
himself caught up in an apocalyptic conflict. The devil's only
chance of getting out of his internal prison is to
mate with the chosen girl in the last hour of
the millennium. So basically you have End of Day nineteen

(02:40:00):
ninety nine. We had y two k the millennial freaking
propaganda all going on at the same time. When did
when did we declare WMD's in Iraq? Was it ninety nine? Oh?

Speaker 1 (02:40:12):
It was somewhere around that time.

Speaker 2 (02:40:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (02:40:14):
Oh god.

Speaker 3 (02:40:15):
Well, the in this movie's description, it says the devil's
only chance of getting out of his eternal prison. Aren't
there theories that they found, like the tumbinimrod and stuff
like that? Right, Yeah, that's what I think of when
I see that, you know, So all right, the sixth Day,
which we know the seven days of Creation so the
Sixth Day is about cloning, about how everything can be cloned,

(02:40:37):
any including humans. Collateral Damage two thousand and two is
just more pumping international terrorism found it, you know, war
machine propaganda. Then another Terminator movie in two thousand and three,
and then he did The Expendables those three movies, and
then Last Stand, which was another kind of like crime

(02:40:58):
terrorism movie. It seems like after his governorship, which I
want to talk about that briefly, a little bit after
the governorship, it seemed like he was really pushing predictive.
Well wait, I think I lost my thought on that.
I think something about after his governorship movies, it seemed

(02:41:21):
like that it was maybe less programming, it was more
I'm just doing movies for fun now it was everything
maybe prior to. But anyway, that's all I've got on that.
I don't think I have a whole lot else other
than just talking about his governorship a little bit. So
one thing I do want to bring up on the
governorship is he was the thirty eighth governor. I know,

(02:41:44):
for those of you that follow numerology, you know thirty
eight to hit and eleven. I do think that's oddly
convenient that when he was Governor of California that it
was under like an eleven type of energy. So yes,
that's really about what I've got. I know, I might
have jumped all over the place.

Speaker 1 (02:42:03):
Oh this was great. I'm so excited to go and
want watch Coda in the Barbarian right now. In fact,
I'm gonna have that on in the background while I'm
starting to work on this. So this was great.

Speaker 3 (02:42:13):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:42:14):
I love decoding these old Hollywood movies and seeing the
symbolism and programming packed in all of these and it's
still happening. Every movie has the propaganda and the programming
in it that tells you that the real world is
much more closer to what they're showing you in Hollywood

(02:42:35):
than ever could be imagined, and that our hidden reality
is being portrayed in different ways, and we just got
to pay attention to what they're showing us and we
can unravel a lot of these secrets. So amazing stuff. Logan,
thank you so much. One more time. If people want
to get in touch, what's your email?

Speaker 3 (02:42:53):
Yeah, So, like I said, I don't really have any
channels or content and this is the first time I've
done something like this, But if you do want to
reach out and just friends. Whatever you can give me
at l yates one, So that's l yaites one at
ProtonMail dot com. And also, I am pretty close to
the Phoenix area. If there's anybody out in this area

(02:43:15):
that wants to meet up and talk or whatever, that'd
be cool.

Speaker 1 (02:43:17):
Right on, Logan, thank you so much. This was great.
We'll have to talk more in the past. I'm sure
you're gonna do some more fantastic work decoding movies and
we'll see in the future. That'd be great, man. I
loved it, And until next time, everyone, have an excellent
evening and we will talk again tomorrow.

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