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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is Jeff Harmon. He is a second generation astrologer and
spiritual consultant with over forty years of experience. He offers
detailed personal and business readings using Vedic, Noddy, classical and
astrolocation astrology. He has also solved many paranormal case involving
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haunted dwellings, UFO related events and possessions. He has cleared
people homes and commercial spaces experiencing negative spiritual attachments, and
he has assisted in treasure hunting. Jeff, welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
How are you doing doing good? Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Thanks for coming back. I always love our discussions. Today
we're going to get into what the astrology indicates about
some of the current global events unfolding, such as Maui fires,
global escalations, new pandemic and lockdown possibilities, UFO madness, and
maybe some political nonsense if we have time. Yeah, but
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before we get into any of that, for the audience
that may not be familiar, just remind them a little
bit about yourself and your work.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Oh yeah, Well, you know, I've been doing this a
long time since the mid seventies, and it's a lot
of fun. I like it because it helps people. I
always try and walk away and do other things, and
it always brings me back. So I'm really busy doing this.
I do a lot of business stuff. I do a
lot of personal things, real estate elections. You know, it's
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a crazy time right now, and a lot of people
are moving around. You know, many people are leaving where
they currently live or looking for new places. So I
do a lot of real estate elections, meaning the time
to put your stuff on the market, move into new places,
all that kind of stuff. So that's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Excellent, excellent. Yeah, Well, let's get into some of our
crazy current events that we're looking at right now. One
of the most prominent things whenever you check into the media,
news or social media is of course the fires in Hawaii.
And first of all, let's get your insights into this,
and what does the astrology say about it?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Well, it's interesting. I have a YouTube channel that I
tell people to go to. It's Jeff Harmon Astrology. And
one of the things we mentioned just two weeks ago
was right when those fires broke out, we had venus retrograde.
And this is what we call an inferior conjunction retrograde.
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Now that's kind of confusing. What that means is when
Venus appears to go backwards, which it does from our perspective,
it goes to what we call the conjunction of the sun.
So but it's the inferior part means it's happening between
the Earth and the Sun, so it's much stronger. And
every time it does, this goes all the way back
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to the Mayan times, very ancient knowledge about Venus going retrograde.
In fact, this was the old metaphor for Lucifer falling.
And this is very interesting because every time Venus goes
retrograde in an inferior conjunction, we get weird, strange, kooky,
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and subversive things happening. Hence why they said it was
Lucifer falling. Always some type of subtrifuge and trickery goes on,
well clearly without even getting into the conspiracy. You know, theories,
and I don't know that there are all so much theories.
But when we look at some of the enigma that
surrounds the Maui fires and why certain things happened the
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fire department and et cetera, et cetera, and the devastation,
there's been a lot of rumors that there's questions as
to why and how this started, et cetera. Well, that
fits the astrology of the Venus retrogram and it happened
exactly like on the day almost right to you can
set your watch to it when retrograde Venus was squaring
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Uranus and going into an alignment with the sun. So
clearly pretty wacky. And you know, Mihera goes out to
those people. I have a lot of clients over there,
and I can tell you it it looks like a
nuclear war zone the way it got hit. It was
really really bad.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, And of course one of the most obvious and
possible conspiracies that we can look at as some sort
of land grab, and it's becoming more and more evident
that this is probably what this was on a very
large and nefarious scale. But it's hard to tell at
this point how deep that rabbit hole goes. I'm sure
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we'll have plenty of wonderful investigators looking into that further.
As far as some of the other things that are
going on right now, one of the other big stories
is the possibility of COVID Part two or three or
however many of these plandemic episodes we're supposed to see,
But there's rumors of new lockdowns. What are we talking
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about here.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
Well, I think they're going to try it. They're definitely
up to some Well I just heard a major studio
here in California is now mandated, and I think it's
Disney that you got to wear masks. And I know,
for the longest time you couldn't get on the Netflix
lot unless you had a face diaper on and clearly
you know, and had to be vaccinated to the max.
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You know, I had to have every booster, every variant
you know of vaccinations, And you know, I think they're
going to try it. I don't think it's going to
be as successful though, as they think it's going to be.
Two reasons. One is I don't think people are going
to accept it, and our learned leaders may not have
the easiest time in forcing it. So we'll see where
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this goes. But I do get deception is really on
the rise here. And of course this gets into the
whole politics of the Biden family and Hunter and you know,
again I always laugh when I hear David Weiss being
assigned to, you know, a Hunter. That's like assigning John
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Gotti's accountant to investigate John Gotti, the very guy who
covered for him, you know. And of course we know
so all of this wraps up into a lot of
what's going on this fall and that with the United States.
And I clearly have to say I have never seen
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as destructive and manipulative and secretive energies that are going
on to the United States as we're seeing now. And
nobody seems to notice, nobody seems to care. They constantly
just oh, you know, the half of them. I'm just stunned,
you know, they're, oh, well, you know, Biden's doing his best.
I'm like, really, it's like you know, what's in your coffee,
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you know, And I mean, as gas soares to new
highs and as likely to go higher as he shuts
down every lever on the economics. So it's hard not
to talk about some of the political intertwinement that's going on.
And it's really not even politics. This is very transparent.
I always say, forget the politicians, you have owners, like
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George Karland said, and literally when you back it up
and look at this from one hundred thousand feet down,
there's no question there is some agendas at play here
that are clearly happening. There's no doubt. I mean, you
cannot turn off the energy systems, of which America probably
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is the most abundant energy on the globe. I mean,
even though Iraq and the Middle he says a lot
of oil, We have a real lot of oil and
coal and other renewable energy sources. And I can tell
you they've suppressed hydrogen. They've suppressed free energies for many,
many years. I was actually introduced to hydrogen back a
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long time ago, like forty years ago. It was perfected.
In fact, the military apparently uses that they nicknamed it
cracked water, and they're using in a lot of drones,
and they can easily do this, This is completely a
manipulated situation on the public. And again nobody seems to notice,
nobody seems to care. They just keep blindly heading down
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the primrose path. And this is raising costs of good
everywhere across the board, not only in the United States
but globally, and it's destroying the middle class economy, it's
completely decimating it. Well, Vanguard, Black Rock and the rest
of them just bail out the major conglomerates keep supporting them.
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And you know, the game is rig folks. The tables
are tilted, and we just are not waking up to it.
And even the political mayhem that's being exposed. You know,
you've got the House trying to prosecute and the Senate
we'll just shut it down. And this is probably one
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of the most blatantly manipulative energies I've ever seen from
the astrology standpoint. And the interesting thing is is ex
eactly what's happening right before our very eyes as the
mind control news blows stardust in our face telling us
there's nothing to worry about, pay no attention to that
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man behind the curtain over there.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Well, I've definitely noticed it's a quickening of these events
that are meant to elicit fear and for us to
solicit reliance on Daddy government at all times. And these
events before twenty twenty, they used to take place every
once in a while. Every few years, we'd have a
global disaster, we'd have something that would cause the masses
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to come fearful and ask for the assistance of the
military and government for some crisis that's about to occur,
our terrorism, our COVID. So there was always something that happened.
But after twenty twenty, seems like those somethings are closer
and closer together, and because of that, there seems to
be a lot of fail occurring on their part.
Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, well exactly. And it's not even you know,
they're just blatantly moving forward with agendas because they've got
every base covered. You know, when you can't prosecute or
even engage the justice systems, there's there's nothing to do.
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I mean, you can cry wolf all you want, nobody's
doing anything about it. And clearly Garland is in the
fold right along with the media, and you know, they're
they're very very much. When you look at this whole
thing and you take it up to one hundred thousand feet.
It isn't just the media and the government. It is
the owners at the top of the pyramid. They're the
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ones pouring the money in the top of the funnel.
And it all comes down to money. I mean, there
was a gentleman in I think it was Black Rock
or Vanguard who got caught saying, oh, we buy all
the politicians right off, because everybody will answer to the money.
And if they don't dance with the money, they'll certainly
dance to the threats that, Hey, you love your grandchildren,
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you love your children, you know. So this is dirty
pool and it's you know, you're dealing with some very
very intelligent and very manipulative people. And I'm not so
sure that there isn't a lot more in the extraterrestrial
or terrestrial A lot of people call it extra terrestrial. Well,
I would also say, you know, you clearly got a
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lot going on with the entire system. You know, there's
a lot going on here.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Well, I'll also come across plenty of folks that are
still discussing the possibility of some sort of mass form
of justice that we may see in our lifetime, maybe
possibly in the next coming years. The form of retribution
that these arrests may may finally come that has been
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being talked about since twenty sixteen, that we may finally
see some some major political shifts and a form of
justice that we might be able to understand. I've never
been hopeful for this, because this is something that we've
been told was supposed to happen for the longest time,
and it's become like one of those in the world
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possibly things where somebody's crying wolf and it never happens.
But what are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Well, you know, we're constantly hearing, you know, the Patriots
has come rioting into Washington any week. I think this
is a lot deeper than that, I really do. I
think this is going to take a lot of time.
I would have to say that the astrology shows that
by twenty twenty five, this next election year is really intense,
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like really really intense. What worries me is these people
have a lot of power, and I think there's really
a very demonic element to this, almost literally between good
and evil. And I think there's a lot more you
could say on and off planet involvement here than we
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may know. And that's a theory of mine, But just
from things I hear and things that I put together,
there's something going on in this planet that's been going
on forever. It's not just recent. I mean, you go
back to the Cuneiform tablets and Sumeria. They had all
talked about these war between the Aanaki and the Watchers
and all this stuff that you see it in the
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Keys of Enoch and so on and so forth. And
my experience is there is a war going on here
between the freedom of humanity and also you can say
the globalists and the nationalists when you take it down
to our world, our quote unquote reality, and there's something
very divine here going on in planet Earth where the
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evil never wins, but it causes a lot of trouble.
When you look back through time at the amount of
horrible things that have been done against humanity, and particularly
the most recent that was on a mass scale was
clearly Hitler. And then of course we go back to Mao,
we go back to you know, Stalin and so on
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and so forth. But if you keep going back in time,
we always see this force of good and evil doing
a lot of havoc. And of course we're seeing this
on many levels right now and I think one of
the most important things, and that's an indicator for me astrologically,
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has been something known as the Great Conjunctions. The Great
Conjunctions go all the way back to the Biblical times
and actually pre biblical times of Noah, and it talks
about how the solar system has these cycles that happen
in huge forms. One of them is known as the Yugas,
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and the Yugas are actually huge because they actually talk
about two hundred and fifty million year galactic cycles and
all these different elements of time broken down, and then
we get into the shorter intervals, which are called the
great conjunctions of Saturn and Jupiter, and Saturn and Jupiter,
even though many people use Neptune, Ortis and Pluto these days,
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which also I find to be very accurate, But it's
the Jupiter Saturn conjunctions that seem, in my opinion, to
show the extremely powerful changes in society. Well, the last
great conjunction we had was right at the formation of
this country. And it's interesting. There was a guy that
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I met back in the eighties. You may have heard
of him, Manly P. Hall. He wrote the book Yeah
cool guy. In fact, I was just over at PRS.
They're redoing it right now, and we were shooting a
little video over there, and they're totally redoing the whole thing.
But that's known as Philosophical Research Center over on by
Griffith Park. And what was interesting, Manly was pretty old
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when I met. This is back in the eighties, and
I think he died like late eighties, early or like
nineties something like that. So he's pretty feeble when I
met him, but a nice guy. And he was a Mason.
And of course I know many people in the religions
hate the Masons, but I always encourage people to realize
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pick up a copy of the Constitution and the Bill
of Rights and read that sometimes. So you know, I
can't speak to the war between religion and Masonry, but
I can't end these secret societies. But I can say this,
the Constitution of the Bill of Rights is a pretty
profound document, and I think it's probably one of the
most well thought out, well crafted documents to stop the
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human tyranny against human tyranny, to give freedom to everyone.
And one of the things that's interesting about astrology is,
you know, everyone was warning about the Mayan calendar. You know,
I said, forget the calendar. I can't come up with
anything for it, maybe you know. And then now there's
many people saying, oh, they got it wrong, they didn't
interpret it right. The only thing I can tell you
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that I've found to be exceedingly reliable is the Great Conjunctions. Well,
right when George Washington and of course the Founding fathers
were drafting all this, we had the Great Conjunction that
was the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. And there's no
question this world has changed so much in the last
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two hundred and something years two hundred fifty to be exact,
or to forty seven. It's kind of breathtaking. I mean,
we have gone from you know, horses and buggies and
muskets and you know, bow and arrows to high tech
nanotechnology that's being put in our vaccines right. So and
look at where we're at. Of course everyone now is
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AI this AI that everything is AI AI AI, you know,
and granted it's it's here. And what brought that in
And this is what I was warrying about many many years,
is the Saturn Jubra conjunction. On the winter solstice of
twenty twenty. Now, a lot of strologers are using siderial astrology,
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some of them are using tropical and I can tell
you they both seem to matter. And this is a
real enigma because we have the sidarial placements of the
planets and we have the tropical and it seems like
you have two camps here, just like in politics, that
can never agree. But I have always been crazy enough
to look at them both and I find that they
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both really contribute a lot. And the winter solstice of
twenty twenty, not only did we have COVID which came
in in January of twenty twenty that was exactly on
the Saturn Pluto conjunction, and Saturn and Pluto also is
another one that shows up extremely powerfully. We had nine
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to eleven on the Saturn Pluto opposition, we had the
banks crash in on the square, and the conjunction brought COVID.
You literally could have set your watch of that one too.
Literally in January of twenty twenty, COVID nineteen exploded on
the scene, even though I think it was before that.
They were busy releasing it somewhat before that, But the
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bottom line is that's when it really kicked in. And
we can say not only did our world change from COVID,
but it also really changed from the winter of twenty
twenty forward. And of course now we're seeing the political
effects of that, you know, the shutting down all the
energy that's it got to go green. You know, I
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got news for them. You know, the batteries do not
generate electricity, They store it and you have to charge
them from somewhere, you know. And I always laugh, if
your Tesla runs out of you know, electricity on the freeway,
we can do go get a bucket of electricity, you know.
And then now they have all these generators running to
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charge the teslas quickly. Well do you know that that
gets about five point six miles to the gallon? When
you work out what does the generator cost to run
its diesel fuel to charge the tesla, it's less than
five point six miles to the gallon when you extrapolate
the electricity of the charged car to the generator. And
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we're not even talking about you know, charging the batteries
or building the batteries. You know, what it took to mine,
what it took to manufacture, and what it takes to
repetitively charge the batteries. But you know, go green folks,
you know, so they're out of their minds. This is
the definition of way past stupid and they're selling it
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to us. So what's happened here? The astrology said, from
twenty twenty forward, we've entered this high tech era and
also we had the Saturn political juncture was brought in
COVID nineteen. I say this is where the new one
world orderers knew that this was happening. They've probably known
it's happening for a long time from my perspective, and
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they're striking. They want digital currency, they want to decimate
the middle class, they want smart cities, and they want
everybody in them. And this is why they're destroying many
of the remote areas. That happened in California as well.
There were firemen saying, hey, you know, we don't know why,
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but there was an engine block cut in half over here,
and this tree had like a laser swipe through it,
and so did this house. Yeah, well, nothing to worry about, folks,
just your normal forest fires. But you know, there's a
lot of very strange things, and someone listening to all
that's a conspiracy there. Well, I don't know about that,
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because certainly very strange things go on that shouldn't and
you have to say, first and foremost, you know, does
this correlate to the astrology, And the answer is yes.
We have something coming up that have been warning about.
October third, we have Neptune, the planet of confusion, delusion
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and the Twilight Zone, making an opposition to the United
States birth chart. Neptune on October third in the siderial chart. Furthermore,
we have Saturn in the sky stationing right over the
top of the United States Moon that's known as Saudi Sate.
And we have a progression that's going to join the
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United States Moon from Mars. It's called the conjunction. If
we don't see the owners pull out some very very manipulative,
tricky and unusual stuff. Now this could be another scandemic.
Did I say scam, I'm at planned. I meant pan.
But the bottom line is, whatever they do, they probably
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have twenty five scenarios twirling around on the ends of
their fingers that they could implement, and one of them's war.
Clearly they want to get war. I think any way
they could accomplish getting rid of three quarters of the
human race. They do it, and you know, Biden is
just beyond arrogant. He is he literally acts like a
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person who knows he's in the fold. He's protected as
long as he just does his job. He can't even
see straight to do that or remember which way to walk,
but they tell him and he gets through it. But
the bottom line is we're in scary times and the
United States really starts a sederial Pluto return on the
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United States and somebody listening to me goes, well, what
does that mean? Well, the Pluto return literally destroyed the
Roman Empire. In fact, most great empires, if you look back,
historically dissolve at approximately two hundred and fifty years. And
it's not exact, but that's about what we call the
synotic cycle. It's a fancy word that just means how
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longs to take plual will go around the sodia, And
that seems to very accurately coincide with the collapse of
many empires, the rises in the falls. So the United
States is in this and it's all going on between
now and the end of next year twenty twenty four.
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Plus we have some very very violent stuff going on
in twenty twenty four with progressions. Progressions is a fancy
word that astrologers use to mathematically extrapolate either in a
person's birth chart or in a country's chart, as to
when a planet advanced year after year after year. That's
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something a person or something exists. And these are extremely
karmon and they're extremely accurate. And we have some doozies
coming up between now and the latter part of next year.
If we get into twenty twenty five, we're going to
see the fate of the United States. And back to
your question earlier, you know, people were asking, you know,
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you know where the patriots going to commemit? There may
be the only way out of this might be what
the Constitution calls for is a military intervention. And I
know there's been a lot of folks talking about this.
One of the gentlemen on X Sony two was talking
about this, and he was talking about the irregularities of
the Biden inauguration and some of the other protocols that
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aren't there. I know one thing, I have talked to
a number of people who are in the military, and
they're very upset. And there does appear to be an
organized effort to counter act this. Because this war is
going on. In my opinion way up at the top
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of the pyramid. It's not happening here, though, we're seeing
the effects of it. They're flooding the border, they're destroying
the I mean, it's very transparent. You look at the
district attorneys letting everyone out, you know, you know, oh,
you kill three people here, go to violin lessons. You know,
don't worry about court date, you know, just get out
of here. You're to vote for us, kid. So the
bottom line is it's very transparent. Police officers are so disgruntled,
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you know. I mean, I'm all for not police brutality.
Some of them do get pretty brutal, there's no question
about that. And they don't have to kill people. They
could hit them in the knee, they could wound them,
they don't have to kill shot everybody. But there is
also a lot more good police officers and a lot
more good people that work in law enforcement than bad.
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And you always get a few bad eggs all the time.
And they're walking away because they say I just talked
to I pulled into them place the other day. A
guy that does cast things for me and for jewelry,
and you know, he's showing me security pictures of all
these people drilling on his door, and the cop was there,
and I said, you know, this's got to be tough
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on you guys. He says, we're so sick of it.
He said, the only reason I show up to work
is because of my pension and my pay. But he said,
I try and do a good job. And they let
him out by five o'clock. So it's breeding crime. And
this whole thing is to destroy Middle America. And when
you have the elite sitting here surrounded by their you know,
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private security teams who have every weapon available to them,
including tasers and lasers and every other damn thing, and
then you have the rest of us who get charged
if we protect ourselves in our own homes. Yes, so
this is clearly very transparent what's happening. They're destroying the
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economic structures in every way, not just the energy, but
they're destroying the cost of goods and the ability to
do commerce. And then on top of that you have
the FED raising interest rates. When you know, if there
was ever a time for quantitative easying, it would be now.
But they're doing twofold. They're coming at us with raising
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the costs of good and then making it harder to
get money. You can still get money, but it's much
more expensive to get money. And what is this doing.
It's all driving things to the moon, and this is
the game to destroy Middle America and it is and
this is exactly what the astrology shows. It's precisely well.
Speaker 1 (29:40):
One of the most difficult things that I see us
trying to get past is like you said earlier, it's
definitely a war of good versus evil. It's a spiritual war.
But what's happened over the years is everything we know
as good is being infiltrated and posing as something good.
Everything's being inverted in what we consider the truth community
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and cons conspiracy community. There's infiltrations. There are negative forces
and energies and entities and people becoming part of this
community infiltrating and spreading bad information, misinformation, sending people off
on the wrong path, and destroying whole entire movements. So
it's they're becoming very and they're funding it. Yeah, so
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it becomes very difficult to see what really is good
these days.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
You bet, and literally anyone you know, like I know,
I'll get heat for this one, but anyone who loves
Trump is very infuriated. Right now, anyone who hates Trump
is jumping up and down, like get them, they're clapping
their hands right. So, but this is unprecedented, whether you
like or dislike Trump. And what's fascinating about this, I've
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been looking at Donald Trump's chart. His astrology shows this
to the team he lost that twenty twenty election. And
I'll get a heat for this too, but I really
think the election was manipulated. All the astrological things I
could see absolutely said it was. And there's some pretty
compelling evidence too that will not be looked at by
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anyone in positions of power to alter it. And what's
interesting is I don't think we've seen an honest election
in California in thirty years. I really don't, or at
least twenty, that's for sure. And what's interesting is it's
very easy to manipulate electronic machines, and the harder it
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gets to do that, the more trouble you're going to see.
And again, if they want with paper ballots and voter
eye ID, it's going to really tick them off because
they have literally manipulated, I believe, in California elections for
years upon years upon years. And if you're not in
the fold, you're not going to win. And this takes
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a lot of money, a lot of power, and a
lot of them key, you know, places to turn the
right screw to make everything happening. But I can tell
you we are clearly as a country in one of
the most dangerous times in the existence of the United States,
even more so than the eighteen sixties. You know, the
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eighteen sixties with the Civil War was really intense, no question.
I mean when you look back at what happened there,
it divided the country, I think for a good cause.
I mean, it's nobody should be enslaved at all. And
you know there was a lot that went on there
too that we weren't told as well. And I can
tell you that where we're at now is a much deeper,
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more sinister and dangerous time than ever before, because it's
not like the eighteen sixties anymore. Now they're not just
interested in freeing people, they're interested in incarcerating us all
unless you're in the full You know, Ann Ran who
had wrote the books, is the author from Russia who
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had come here and she wrote the book at the shrugs.
Some people may or may not have heard it, and
they actually made a movie of that and wonderful stuff that.
Just like George Orwell's book nineteen eighty four, these are
eerily close to exactly what's happening right now. They don't
want to control you. They want to control what you think.
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Literally and social media, like right now, what we're doing
our facial recognition. You can't even be on Zoom unless
you have agreed to give up your facial recognition and
all the data and all the things you say. Everything
we say on any social media, texts, phone calls is
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absolutely one hundred percent parsed, recorded and databased. And this
is way past enemy of the state right now. And
you know the movie with Gene Hackman and of course
Will Smith, good movie, really good movie, if anyone hasn't
seen it, Watching that one, I don't scare the hell
out of you. And that was cool thirty years ago.
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And I could tell you where we're at right now.
There's nobody sitting in a little cubicle listening to us.
There are computer programs that literally parsed us. They don't
care where you shop, they care what you think, what
your probabilities are, what your psychological profile is, and we
are entering a high tech era that warrants or allows
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the manipulation of technology to literally imprison us if if
we do not keep this country's original Constitution and Bill
of Rights, the basic freedoms. And when you look at
the Bill Rights and the Constitution, it's a profound document.
For every single person drawing breath, I don't care how fat, tall, skinny,
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what color you are, It doesn't matter what religion you are.
Those basic freedoms are essential to humanity. And if it's destroyed,
we're in big trouble. And I can tell you over
this next year to year and a half, we're going
to see that play itself out because these guys on
NUCA City, you're not dealing with nice guys here. This
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is you're dealing with people at the top of the
pyramid here. I mean, look at Lenin. Just to get
a little piece of what Lenin was thinking, Like, I
went to the Reagan Library and I put this on
a podcast a while back, and I couldn't believe my eyes.
He literally Lenin is quoted in parentheses or in quotations saying,
we don't care if we kill three quarters of the
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human race as long as the quarter that is remaining
becomes under our rule communist. That's how they think. You know,
look at Stalin, Well, this is getting too expensive to
shoot the people. We're wasting all this ammunition and menpower.
Let's just starve them out, turn off the food, cut
them off of all supplies and everything. They starved them out.
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Millions of people died, just like Mao, same thing and
the same thing that's going on in China. These are
not nice people. You know. The constitution would burn them
if it touched them. It's pretty pretty scary, and we're
for freedom.
Speaker 1 (36:16):
We are, and like what you were saying earlier, when
it comes to technology and the development and growth, rapid
growth of technology that's occurring right now, this is a
weapon that we should be concerned about because it is
a weapon being used against us in many different ways.
Just as an example, ai Chat GPT. I suspect that
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what this is going to do is replace all search
engines to where we can only find Daddy government approved information.
If we go into Google or any search engine and
we search for we're trying to do research on something
that we're not sure about, it will only provide the
information that has been approved by the globalist beasts system.
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So I think that is what could be going on
with a lot of the advancements in these AI algorithms
and what we're interacting with online and things like that.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
What do you think, Yeah, I mean they love the
China model, they really do. I mean, China is the
prototype that the New one World orderers want to use.
And I believe there is a lot of secret weaponry
that is available, psychotronic weapons. I know the United States
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has perfected fission from everything I've heard, and that's a
big deal because fission is different than fusion. You know,
fusion is used in nuclear actors so on, it's over,
but fission is also as well. It's a lower type
of power of nuclear. They've actually miniaturized it. They can
keep planes in the air as long as the rivets
stay in the wings unmanned. And here's the thing, they
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don't need to come back to refuel. They don't need
to come back and get more ammunition. We are talking
WAT lasers and particle beam directed energy weapons on these
vehicles and satellites and so on and so forth. And
we you know, we hear this crap on the new
as well. You know, Russia's developed supersonic missiles and so
is China. Yeah, well they're not going to compete with
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a megawatt laser take them out of the sky in
a nanosecond. So you know, there is weaponry that I
believe is reversed engineers from extraterrestrials and terrestrial beings. And
there seems to be a real war here that's going
on right now that is in a way kind of divine.
(38:39):
There was a number of people involved in UFO UAPs
and all that stuff, where commanders at military basis have
come forth and said, we have literally seen orbs around
various different military installations and afterwards it didn't work. It's
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like the circuit boards had to be replaced or we
had to rebuild it. So there are definitely forces, I
think divine forces here protecting this world. And one of
the interesting things is Admiral Bird. Admiral Bird was funded
by the US government. And isn't this interesting how much
interest everybody's gotten Antarctica about that. And you know, there's
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mountain ranges named after the Rothchilds and Rockefellers, and there's
all kinds of stuff going on down there. And the
rumor is that Admiral Bird had taken a flight mission
with a whole team, a squadron, and they were forced
down underneath this cavern in the Antarctic subterrane and they
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were told right out, you know, we will not allow
you to destroy this planet. And one thing's for sure.
When you look at Tartaria, you look at energy, free energy,
so on and so over, the things that have gone
on for a long long time on this planet. Our
history is not to be believed. Secondly, uh, there are
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spiritual forces on this planet that are always at war.
And I really believe we are in this country at
a time when we might see divine intervention come through.
There's too many people in very high places who are
really smart, and they know a lot of stuff, and
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they know where the screws are to turn to to to,
you know, potentially stop this. And I think it's going
to get crazy. If the astrology's right, and it usually is,
I'll never forget, you know. Nine to eleven, I was
talking to a friend of mine, Arch Crawford, and I said,
Arch says something big is going to happen. He says,
I agree, And two days later it might even have
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been the next day, I'm watching the towers come down
like sparklers from jet fuel. And you know, we won't
get into that one, but clearly the army of architects
and structure engineers who said that was physically impossible to
do what it did the way it did the way
they said it did so but that doesn't get any
press either. So you see how controlled our perception of
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reality is in the mundane world. And they control the money,
they control the media, and they control what you get
to study, learn, think, and we see the effects right now.
I mean my heart goes out to parents. They literally
are being told, you know, if little Johnny or little
Sally wants to change their identity and sexuality, we'll give
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them irreversible surgery. If you don't agree with it, we'll
take your child away and they'll become a ward in
the state. Now think about that one. I mean, that
would be unthinkable even ten years, five years ago, it
would have been unthinkable. So we are really in a
scary time. And this is the astrology says we're going
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to see some very serious things play out over this
next year and a half. And I think this fall
is an extremely powerful trigger point, extremely powerful.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
We're going to see you mentioned ets and UFOs, and
of course we've been all watching what's been happening, what's
been rolling out of our mainstream media, congressional hearings, talk
of retrieved crash, non biologic or biologic, non human entities,
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things of that nature. So there is a level of
what is supposed to be disclosure happening right now. But
of course we can't trust anything coming out of our
government or mainstream media because they never had a track
record telling the truth. So why now about extraterrestrials and UFOs.
What are your thoughts on what could be really behind this?
Speaker 2 (42:52):
Yeah, I mean only to their advantage. They seem not
to care about anything unless it's fortifying their narrative. And
I don't know that I have a snampy answer to
that one. It's kind of an enigma they could be.
You know, again, I think they have twenty five scenarios
floating around on the tips of their fingers that they
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could pull. One thing's for sure, you know, pandemics, war,
all these things are certainly in their tool chest. The
extraterrestrial thing has been something you know a lot of
people have speculated could be brought out to again put
fear into people and then have them go behind agendas
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to protect themselves, because that's always the thing, you know,
is no one's going to give up their freedoms for free,
but they'll do it if they think that's going to
better their situation. And you know, I think where they
really do want to go as digital currency. And you know,
I've never seen the FED raise interest rates during a recession,
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and I don't care what they tell us. We're in
a recession. We're in a functional recession, a much different
one than anything before. Functional meaning that they keep pouring
enough money into the system to keep it all rolling,
and yet it's constantly increasing in cost of goods to
live and with Biden shutting everything down, it's insane. In
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this whole electric vehicle thing, and even the climate change,
I can tell you the climate change things, it's all
you can say. How transparent the media is. We had
heat indexes much higher than this in the thirties, and
they say another time was back in the eighteen hundreds,
and this going back farther again, we don't have the
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kind of data that we have ever since last century.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
I believe people still fall for the climate change. We
were supposed to be what underwater the ice the ice
birds were supposed to melt. We were supposed to be
in a global warming nightmare, and then global cooling. So
I can't believe people still falling for the bs that
they're trying to feed them with climate.
Speaker 2 (45:02):
Chickens totally balling for it. Yeah, oh yeah, and you know,
go buy your tesla, you know, I mean, I see
them all the time in California. Here they're doing their
civic duty with their tesla, proudly having the hands of
ten and two. But you know, again, it costs much
more pollution to develop and make these batteries. My brother
(45:24):
told me a very sad story. People also have to
realize these electric vehicles when they catch on fire, walk
away because you can't put them out. The fire department
can't put them out. See, the lithium ion batteries literally
fuel their own combustion. The only way you can put
out a lithium ion battery is wait until it's done
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and all the fuel inside of the battery has combusted.
You can't put them out. A very sad story my
brother told me. A friend of his in his Tesla
had flipped upside down, lost control the doors lock automatically
and the battery caught on fire. His friend took a
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ten pound sledgehammer and was beating on all the windows,
couldn't break them, and he watched his friend burn up
inside the tesla. So this is kind of scary, and people,
you know, this isn't you know, real frequent. But if
you get an electric vehicle with it lithium ion battery
on fire, get out, get out right now, because you
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can't put them out in the fire department. That's all
they do. They just surround the area to keep people
away and let it burn. You can't stop it. Talk
about pollution, talk about a carbon footprint. Do you ever see
how much black smoke comes out of I seen them
all the time smoking here on the side of the room,
and you know, it's insanity, it's virtual insanity what they're
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selling us. And again, if the electric vehicles were the answer, great,
what about hydrogen. Hydrogen is such a viable you can
convert diesels and gas motors over to hydrogen. But can't
have that because that's too plentiful. You see, and I
actually rode up the grapevine. If anybody knows what that is,
(47:13):
it's a it's the five going up towards Pyramid Lake.
And it's one hell of a pole. I meant, most
trucks are doing twenty miles an hour at the top
of this thing is huge. And my friend had a
three point fifty Chevy pickup truck and had converted it.
He took a battery, hold it out and the copper
rod will give you oxygen. The aluminum rod will give
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you the hydrogen. All you got to do is apply
about sixty eight to sixty nine ampires of current, which
is very easy to do with an alternator and a car,
to ironize water. And that's it. It makes it. It's
so flammable. He had to missed down the hydrogen because
it'll burn up the it'll burn home the pistons. It's
(47:56):
so flammable. Yeah, and I think a gallon of gas,
I'm sorry, a gallon of water will get you. It's
one hundreds of miles. It's a long, long way. It's
very efficient, and you know we can't have that. So
if these if these crooks were really interested in helping us,
that's what we would do. He would see free energy.
(48:18):
I mean, look at Tesla. He had presented all kinds
of energy transmission techniques and free energy that he had developed,
and JP Morgan the book he's look at wait wait
a minute, wait a minute, this is free No, no, no, no,
we can't have that. Rockefeller and the oil boys stomped
on that instantly. And even if you keep oil going,
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even though it's not as you know, practical as free energy,
that's for sure, it's way better economically for us. And
when you look at the emissions that cars and diesels
have been refined to, it's really pretty good. It's putting
out a lot less pollution then the diesels that are
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charging the tesla's and the power plants and everything else,
and also what it takes to make the batteries.
Speaker 1 (49:08):
So this is the problem with people who are discovering
these free energy devices and these inventions and working with
this energy is debt exactly. They can't come out and
talk about it. I remember a couple of years ago
I had a gentleman working on the water fuel for
the vehicle, and he said he was in fear of
his life, and then I never heard from him again.
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So there's that happening. But there's also the infiltration aspect.
They will get in with these people that are working
on these brilliant inventions and take them over or take
them out, or pay them off to where we'll never
hear about any of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (49:44):
Yeah, that's the big thing I hear is they literally
will make them, you know, so opulent that they just
they don't care. You know, Great, here's your mansion, here's
here's enough to live for you and your your relatives
for the rest of your lives. A nice day, We
own it, and then on the shelf it goes. Oh yeah,
this is clearly a very demonic force that is wearing.
(50:09):
Look what happened with Tartaria and the world Fares. I
mean I was questioning this stuff at first, but if
you look into the Chicago World's Fair, some of the
architecture that was in existence, the free energy, the domes,
you know, Tesla figured this out. If you take away
anybody can do this. Go to your loco lows or
home deepot or whatever you want and take a wire
(50:31):
and run it up a tree. Oh maybe you know,
ten feet, twenty feet, thirty feet. If you can't, you
gotta be careful going high like that. But the old
days of the TV towers was perfect and just put
a lead on one end and put a lead on
the other end. You'll be stunned at the voltage potential
difference between a wire in the air and a wire
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on the ground. You don't even need to go that far.
If you just run one up twenty feet ten feet,
you'll measure potentially a fifty thousands of a vault or
more sometimes up to one hundred millivolts, which is again
thousands of a vault on that wire. What's creating it?
It's everywhere. It's everywhere. I mean, energy is all around us.
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It's magic. This planet is magic, and there are demonic
forces trying to keep consciousness as well as energy and
freedoms suppressed. I really believe that demonic forces. There's a
lot more truth to the Garden of Eden story that
I think we know. It's just been watered down. And
that is there are spiritual and demonic forces about us
(51:39):
that we can't see with the visual spectrum. And you know,
again there's a lot of people who talk about disincarnate
souls and ghosts and all that stuff, which absolutely exist
and I don't think anyone dies. So there's a whole
astral world that's just above and around our five cents.
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We just can't detect it. It's like no one right
now can hear another radio or TV station because you're
not tuned into it with the apparatus to decode it.
So it's the same thing. Our brains are actually attenuators
of consciousness, and they are when we're slapped on the
rear end in the delivery room, we get dumbed down.
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They say, there's a mark made right here that literally
makes us forget it dumbs us down. And the lower
conscious mind is formed starting in the womb, and the
Hebrews called it the fesh and it is really like
the keyboard, the mouse, and the screen, or the steering
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wheel of the gas pedal and the brakes that we
control things with, and it's not us, but it becomes
our perception of reality. And if the demonic forces can
keep us focused down here in the money, the pain
that this that that you know, all the lower conscious things,
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that's when you can get human beings sugitious about anything
out of fear fear of going broke, fear of this,
fear of not being healthy, fear of this, fear of that.
It's all fear based and they feed off that energy.
And I really believe the Vedic and the Knadi astrology
shows this matrix that is here on this planet with
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the celestial matrix, if you will, of this solar system.
You know, everybody thinks all astrology is predicting the future,
you know, smoking merrors and beads. No, it's a celestial
astronomical matrix. And I don't think anything lays that out
as well as the Knotty and the Vedic astrology when
you take in what is it really saying? We're all
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dumbed down spiritual beings having a physical experience, and many
of us are getting much more conscious to that, and
the religions have really failed in that area, and you're
all going to hell. It just don't cut it. You know,
there's a little more going on than that.
Speaker 1 (54:06):
This reality has so much hidden wonder to it that
these forces you're just talking about are doing everything they
can to prevent us from realizing and becoming aware of
these hidden energies that's around us at all times. But
I think more and more people are waking up to it.
More and more people are able to sense and achieve
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the awareness to where they can perceive some of these energies.
And there's a lot of changes in this reality happening
right now. Now, let's get into for the last few
minutes that we have, what does the future look like
astrological wise?
Speaker 2 (54:45):
Well, like I've been saying, I think we're in a
really challenging time until twenty twenty five. There's a series
of events going on. There's always stuff going on. But
I think in terms of this, you know, chapter of
humanity's last industrial revolutional growth, we are now in a
(55:06):
new chapter and we're going to find out by twenty
twenty five whether we're going to be the phoenix rising
out of the ashes or we're going to be in
prison by the very technology we have developed, and it's
now going to be manipulated by forces above us. And
I tend to lean towards we may get lucky and
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be the phoenix rising out of the ashes. It's going
to be a little bit up the middle. But I
think we're going to find there's a lot of people
who love their children in high places and their grandchildren
as well. And again it's really profound that the founding
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fathers of this country had the foresight to zero in
on the very specific points of human freedom and no
matter what fancy words you want to use. Freedom of speech,
freedom of expression, freedom of belief, and religious rights are huge,
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they're huge, and you know rights, the bare arms to
protect yourself and all the other incredibly well documented things
that are within the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.
I don't think there's another document quite like it. And
I think if this country gets destroyed by the very demonic,
(56:27):
evil forces that are behind these people, they're all bought
and paid for, and forget Republican, forget the Democrat, they're
they're all they're all in the fold. And that's that's
an old expression, that they're in the fold. They're in
the payroll and or coerced. We're going we're going to
see us be the phoenix rising out of the ashes
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if this maintains, if this country is not destroyed, because
they are certainly going out of their way to destroy
it at this juncture. And I think we're right at
the precipice of seeing these forces clash based on what
I see in the maderial and tropical astrology.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Jeff, always a wonderful conversation. Before you go, let the
audience know if they're interested in getting a reading, finding
out more about you. Where's the best way that they
can do so the.
Speaker 2 (57:25):
Best way is is Jeffharmon dot com. Also, I tell
people go to my YouTube channel because we got a
lot of really fun stuff coming out and there's a
lot of stuff that's been done that you can watch,
some really good things about consciousness and souls and also
ways that we can maintain our energy, medical astrology, all
(57:45):
kinds of stuff. I can't get medical advice, but it's
fun stuff. And so that's the YouTube channel, Jeff Harmon Astrologer,
and then also my website Jeff at Jeffharmon dot com.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
Perfect Jeff. We will definitely be doing this again. This
is your like, I don't know fifth or six appearance,
who knows, I've lost count, But we'll keep it going
and until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We
will be talking again tomorrow. We'll see y'all. Then, many
of us have woken up to the fake money in
the banking scam, fake health, and the pharmaceutical scam. Fake Today,
(58:20):
I want to welcome back to the show Lindsay Sharman.
She is host of Rogueway's podcast, author of several books, educator,
and National Board certified teacher with a master's in teaching.
She is also a spiritualist and experiencer of other realms
via astral travel, dream walking, visions, and interaction with other
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dimensional entities. Lindsey, welcome back.
Speaker 3 (58:46):
How you doing, fantastic, Chris. Is awesome to be here
with you in your exceptional audience.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
Oh, having always awesome to have you here. This is
gonna be fun as usual. Today We're gonna discuss past
lives and past life trauma. And up until a few
years ago, I had no idea that our past lives
could carry so much over and so much information and
baggage into this incarnation. And apparently it can cause major mental, emotional,
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and even physical manifestations in this life. So there's so
much to this. There's a lot we could get into
before we do. For those out there that may not
be familiar with you, just tell us a little bit
about yourself, your content, and your spiritual work.
Speaker 3 (59:35):
Yeah. I am Lindsay Sharmon. I do the show Rogue Ways.
I'm a spiritual healer, spiritual teacher, and I came to
all of this begrudgingly. I would say, I've always been,
you know, into the spiritual and whatever, but as an
actual sort of I guess, you know, business or occupation
that was like very foreign to me, and but here
I am anyways doing it. I'm so grateful because I
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get to receive actually so much from doing this, and
I get to watch people will transform their lives, and
that's really great. I also write. I do channeled writings
through entities I've been interacting with my whole life, which
I call the spiritual ancestors, or sometimes I refer to
them as the wogis. And those beings might seem to
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other people as though they're extraterrestrial. They present often as
you know, lights in the sky and things that people
would call UFOs. So I have that relationship and what else.
That's good enough, I guess for now. I do a
lot as you do too. I know you're you can relate.
Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
Oh yeah, a, it's good stuff. That's some of you
do some amazing work. Before we get too deep into this,
since you mentioned the wogies, maybe could you elaborate a
little bit on what you believe these beings are because
later on I want to circle back to this.
Speaker 3 (01:00:52):
Yeah, so these you know, I started experiencing these these
lights in the sky, and so I assumed, as I
think most people would this was alien craft and you know,
UFOs extraterrestrials, And it became obvious to me eventually that
they were could communicate and that they could read my
thoughts at they're telepathic whatever and whoever and wherever they
(01:01:13):
were from, and so I started trying to interact with
them on that level. And I don't really consider myself
psychic psychic, like it's not really clear to me you know,
what someone's thinking or you know, anything like that. But
I do consider myself empathic and as sort of psychic.
I receive images, impressions, and ideas, and so as I
was sort of like sending them, you know, questions, I
(01:01:36):
started to get like blinks in response. That was the
easiest way to receive information because it's visual, it's like
happening actually right in front of me. But years into
this process, I then started receiving you know, those sorts
of impressions and understandings and messages more clearly, and really
I had always been receiving that. But I think, like
a lot of us, we pack up a lot of
(01:01:57):
sort of like baggage and blockage between our selves in
that side of ourselves, our our logical self and our
sort of right brained, maybe intuitive side of ourselves. So
as this relationship developed, I not only was growing my
skills and abilities, but I was coming to understand these
beings more. And to me, they're they're not physical. They
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we could call them. I think interdimensional would be a
best the best word for them. They're of consciousness might
be another good way of understanding it, or spiritual beings
some people might call them because of all of that.
So I understand them in all of those ways, and
I I have then also experienced, you know, intergalactic journeying
(01:02:40):
with them, which I think we've talked about on a
previous episode, but I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
Yeah, yeah, these beings are would you consider them separate
from what you understand is your spiritual ancestors or spirit guides.
Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
I do call them a spiritual ancestors, and they are
a spirit guides.
Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
Okay, so it is, But.
Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Yeah, but I don't I think that you could say
that about like Jesus or archangel Michael as well, right
like that could be a guide for somebody. And so
I see them as both really.
Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Right on, right on. Now to get into the past
lives and past life trauma, how did you first become
interested in start looking into past lives and have realizations
about that.
Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Yeah, it's it's really cool. Because I did not go
looking for it. I don't remember if I even believed
in it or not. I don't think I had like
an understanding of past lives. I have somewhat of a
Christian background, really loosely, and so if anything, I probably
had the idea that we just live once and go
to heaven or hell, right, if anything, if I had
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thought about it too deeply, and that didn't really ever
seem right to me. But I still don't think I
had like pondered past lives. But I had this, you know,
And it was during a dream. And people understand dreams
in various ways, and I understand dreaming as just another
layer of our consciousness, and that all of us go
traveling astrally every night. And some dreams are sort of
more mundane, and some are more profound, like actual experiences
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we're having on a spiritual or a different layer of
conscious sort of level. So this was one of those
for me. And I always called these sort of my
power dreams, because I didn't I just needed a way
to differentiate them from like the dreams we have where
we're just going through what happened in the day, or
you know, our fears or those types of things. So
I had this power dream you might want to call it.
I had this experience, and it was really clear, as
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these dreams often are, it's almost lucid in a way.
And in this experience, I was watching cars go by
a random road I was just sitting on and all
of a sudden, like a window of Cepia tone opened
and as the cars would drive, they were like modern cars,
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but as they hit the sepia toned window, they become
like horse drawn buggies, right, and like just I was
like what, And then they'd go through the other side
and be a modern car again. And so I understood
this cpatone window was like another time. And then I
moved into that cpotone window myself, so I understood I
was now in another time. And then I sort of
went into a building. And then I went into like
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a body, and I was in this body, and I
was looking in the mirror, and I understood myself, as lindsay,
having come to this time and into this body. But
I also then instantly like sort of almost lost that
understanding of myself and understood myself as this person looking
in the mirror, totally different person. This is like Western times.
I'm you know, brushing my hair or something. My name
(01:05:41):
is like Elizabeth, Like I just have my whole history
as like part of my consciousness, and I am this
person and someone walks up behind me, some small part
of myself almost saw them in my current life as lindsay,
as someone who's in my extended family. But I instantly
then also saw them as my husband in that life,
(01:06:03):
and I knew, and I was scared for some reason,
and I understood I was scared because I was wondering
if my husband had learned about my lover. And I
don't even think I had actually engaged sexually with this
lover yet, but that we were like flirting and we
were connecting, and maybe I was thinking about leaving him
or I knew I had cheated on some level at least,
(01:06:23):
and I was scared that he had found out because
he was a very violent man. And it turns out
as he came up to me, he was sort of
lovingly caressing my neck and then he grabbed a knife
and cut it, So, yeah, he had found out. And
then I died, and I died horribly and painfully and
suddenly and someone unexpectedly, And it had started with this
(01:06:45):
sort of light loving touch of my neck, right, And
then I left that realm and that understanding and that time,
and I came back to this and I woke up
and I was like, that was a crazy dream. That
was an insane dream. But I started to wonder, like
what really was that? Because I was that person and
I had all the memories and I understood everything about
(01:07:05):
this life, and I understood who that person the husband
was and all these things that had happened in our
social you know, all of this stuff, and I was like,
maybe that was me, Like maybe that was a life,
and people have talked about past lives and maybe we
do have past lives, and maybe this is it. And
then I started thinking more and I started understanding I
had come into this life with a hatred of anyone
(01:07:27):
touching my neck, Like if anyone came near my neck,
I would like freak out and like throw them away,
you know, like try to like escape almost like a
traumatic response like PTSD, Yeah, like a trigger. I started
thinking like, well, that must be what this is from, right,
cause there was no explanation. I'd never been like choked
in this life or had any sort of neck trauma
(01:07:48):
as Lindsey, but I clearly did as Elizabeth in the
Western Times, right, And it even, you know, in my
conception then, and I still have some of this conception now,
like even if you don't want to think of that
as a past life, you know, maybe there was some
other level of trauma or ancestral trauma that kind of
was being triggered and therefore then able to heal in
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this experience of myself as this other person. I really
believe and understand it as my past life and that
my soul has gone through all of these incarnations. But
I accept that, you know, we have this collective memory,
and we have ancestral memory, and we have these other
sorts of ways that we might be able to understand
this in a different way if we want to. And
I don't think it matters too much, right because in
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the end, the results is the same. And the result
for me was that in experiencing that again and understanding
that this is where my own neck issues came from,
I was able to then release that and heal it.
And now people can touch my neck, Like you know,
I don't have that anymore, and whatever was stored in
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the physically, you know, has had been released. And I
did forgiveness with that person and that soul and that life,
with myself in that life and with myself in this life,
and just sort of allowed all of that to release.
And I think that's what any trauma requires, is that
we see it, we understand it, we accept it, and
we just allow it to be what it is, and
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that understanding and allowance allows it to finally leave us
and we can become healed and whole. So that was
my very first experience of a past life memory, and
that was the healing that it brought me. And it
may seem sort of simple, and you know, it's just
a neck, it's not that big of a deal, but
there were more profound experiences to come and more profound
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healings to come in time. That was just sort of
my intro.
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Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:11:05):
I was just gonna ask if you explored any further
your own past life experiences, but apparently you did.
Speaker 3 (01:11:13):
Yeah, Well, like everything for me, I didn't go seeking it,
but it definitely came. And you know, one of the
that one was pretty dark. And I think I've had
like eight or nine past lives come back to me
at this point. It just keeps growing.
Speaker 1 (01:11:29):
And did they always come in dreams?
Speaker 3 (01:11:33):
No, I that one came in a dream, and maybe
maybe a few others have, but a lot more now
have come in what you know, sort of like a
trance or a spiritual state that I go into. You know,
I'm a shamanic healer and I do a lot of
spiritual work, and so I spend a lot of time
in meditation and that sort of space, and a lot
(01:11:53):
of times when I'm just doing healing with myself, things
like that will sort of come forward. And one of
the most profound and I think deep experiences I've recalled
I had was I remembered being a person in I'm
going to say, like the Middle Ages, I'm real bad
with time, and I'm really bad also with names. And
(01:12:15):
it's so funny because I am in conscious, waking life
and always have been, and it turns out that I'm
also bad at those things in the spiritual realm. So
you know, it does a change in that level. But
you know, if I'm going to say medieval times, the
buildings were all stone, I felt like we had like
horses and armies that had like lances and swords, things
that I right now would call medievals. So I was
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in this time, and I was a man in this life,
and I was actually really horrifyingly experiencing this life as
a torturer. It was like my job to torture people.
And if I weren't so immersed in being that person,
I would have fled from that life and that memory instantly.
(01:12:58):
If I were more of like Lindsay consciousness, I would
not have even allowed myself to explain se because it's
so repulsive to me and reprehensible to me. And in
this current life, as Lindsay I, it's one of my
main like moral questions is like how do people torture
each other? But like, how do you get to this
point where you would ever do that to something? This
(01:13:21):
most heinous, awful, just psychopathic thing, right Like I just
can't even understand it. And so if I would have
had any of this level of consciousness, I would not
have been able to even experience this life. But because
in these memories and these recalls. I'm so fully immersed
in that life as that person identifying as this. I
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was able to experience it and live through it because
in that life I didn't have a problem with it.
I was like, Yeah, this is my job. This is
what I do, and not only is it my job
what I do, I kind of like it and I'm
like honored by people for it. It's like, you know,
not everyone's capable of this. So I mean, I was
like proud of myself, and I felt like I was
(01:14:02):
doing this duty to my I don't know if it
was like a king or a you know, duke oruse.
I have no idea, but whoever the leader of you know,
my army or my military and my country was in
that in that life, I felt really happy for that,
Like I'm doing this duty and we need this in society,
and we're purging the filth and we're getting information we
(01:14:23):
need and all of this. I felt like I was
leading this noble role. And so I experienced all of that,
experienced harming people, I experienced enjoying it, I experienced, you know,
feeling good about it. And I also then experienced this
really unexpected moment in that life where I was torturing someone,
and for some reason, I like made eye contact with them,
and I just understood like what I was doing to
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people beyond the physical right like on like a soul level.
I was like a spiritual experience, and it horrified me,
and I like lost my nerve for this, and I suddenly,
have you ever seen that? Is? I think it's a
family guy or the guy's in prison, and he like
stabs himself and he's like, oh God, is that what
I've been doing to people this whole time? Like I
belong in here. It was kind of like that moment
(01:15:09):
where I was like, this is what I've been doing.
This is actually horrible, and something about me understood that
the harm like went beyond like I said, it was
like almost spiritual or like the emotional effect of it
or the mental effect of it. And I just had
this sort of like come to Jesus moment and I
all of a sudden, all of it hit me, like
my whole life and everything I'd done. And also some
(01:15:31):
part of this was the realization that perhaps the purpose
for which I thought I was doing this wasn't so noble,
wasn't so pure, My leaders weren't so you know, honest
or something. The cause wasn't so great after all. There
was something of that in it too, There was something
of seeing like the humanity in the person who I
was hurting. All of it sort of hit at once,
(01:15:51):
and I like lost myself and I became very scared
that I was going to be found out as like
a traitor right if I did keep torturing. But I
also like did not have the stomach anymore to keep torturing.
So I just went into this deep depression and rejection
of myself and I was going to kill myself in
that life. And it was so weird because at that
(01:16:13):
point I sort of left that consciousness of myself as
that person. I returned to my consciousness as Lindsay, and
I was there as Lindsay outside of this man who
I also was in that life, and I, as Lindsay,
was like telling him like, hey, it's okay, Like we
can actually forgive ourselves, like we can receive forgiveness, we
can heal this, we can release this, like you don't
(01:16:35):
have to kill yourself. And I know it's like overwhelming
right now, but it's going to be okay. And I
was trying so hard to help him see you know
that actually anything can be forgiven. And that was actually
kind of hard for me to even do because again,
as lindsay, I was like, I hate you, which means
I hate myself, which means like what does this mean? Right?
Like it's really really hard. I came back to this
(01:16:58):
consciousness and came out of that really deep meditation, and
I was like crying and upset, and because you know,
I don't know if people can relate unless they've experienced it,
but when you experience it as yourself, it's like it's
in you, just like if you did that in this life, right,
That's how it felt to me. So it was really
traumatic to even experience. And this has been how most
(01:17:20):
of my past life recalls have been really traumatic to
experience and really negative things that I'm either doing or
that are being done to me, and that life, I
think the most out of all of them, was the
most horrific and traumatizing. So I kind of was, you know,
re traumatized again. It takes twenty days, I think, to
really deal with just that this had even happened. And
(01:17:44):
then I started asking myself like why why did I
go back to that and why did I learn all
this again, and why did I re experience it? It
has to serve a purpose in this current life, or
else I wouldn't have done it. And I started thinking
about how my whole life I had had this sort
of preoccupation with trying to understand why people torture or
(01:18:05):
kill one another in horrible ways and what that really is.
And there I had experienced it, and I did understand it.
I understood how you could get to that point where
you felt like it was right or good. So I
still didn't understand I still didn't experience like the psychopathy
of it necessarily, like just doing it for the joy
of it, But I did understand that doing it for
what you thought was a cause or a purpose, or
that it was necessary or that the person deserved it.
(01:18:27):
And I really did believe that. So I could actually
understand that now, which in itself is healing in a way,
because in a way, now I have some level of
compassion for people who are doing that in this world
to other people for similar reasons. I can understand how
you make the mistakes in your mind and your heart
to get to that point. I still can't relate to
(01:18:47):
doing it because I'm not in that place anymore, but
I can understand having been in that place is how
you could confuse yourself to that point and get to
that point. So that's kind of worthwhile in itself to
understand this, you know, someone else's experience that I couldn't
previously understand. But another part is I remembered. And this
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is hard for people to understand sometimes too, but I
had never really forgotten, but I had just put it
out of my mind almost completely, that I had been
tortured as a small child in this life, as lindsay,
and this is actually the root of my own PTSD CPTSD,
to be precise. And I had sort of, like I said,
(01:19:30):
like not repressed it, but just put it out of mind.
There was nothing more to be done with it that
I thought I could do with it, and so I
put it out of mind until I went through my
own healing of CPTSD and other things. It just it
just stayed there. But at this moment I remembered, and
then that also unleashed all of this healing because I
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was tortured by a dentist, which I have found since
many people were. I don't know what that is. I
guess dentists are sometimes.
Speaker 1 (01:20:00):
Here actually orthodontistally, yes, very much so, yeah, God.
Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
And it's awful because you're a child.
Speaker 1 (01:20:08):
Yeah, that's why I help. I have trouble going to
the dinnis. I'm terrified, but you know, something that happened.
Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
Yeah, wow, I didn't know what happened to you, you know,
and it is I also can't I shouldn't say I
can't have a really hard time going really wellness too,
like really yeah, because you know, And it's interesting too
because until I started healing from it, I could go
to the dentist super easily because I had put it
out of mind and I was really good at dissociating.
And then once I started healing all of this, I
(01:20:36):
was like, I can't go anymore because now it's like back,
it's in my consciousness, and I like, I can't deal
with it. So it's really really hard. Well yeah, and
you know mine at least and probably yours too, Like
it was really obvious that he enjoyed it, you know,
and that he loved that I couldn't do anything about it,
and he loved prolonging it and it was awful, and
(01:20:57):
you know, my parents and maybe yours too, like they
didn't believe me because I was so young. I just
thought I didn't understand.
Speaker 1 (01:21:03):
And also, this was one of my parents kind of friends,
you know, they were acquaintances. So yeah, yeah, hell situation.
Speaker 3 (01:21:11):
They Yeah, they choose their victims very intentionally. They're like,
here's a young one. And they're also like, yeah, their
parents are my friends or whatever. There's a reason mine
was my mom this was the only dentist that would
let her make payments. We were very poor, and so
we had to go to that dentist and he knew it.
So yeah, So that all came back and I was like, well, man,
(01:21:35):
I mean like I also then understand. I'm still in
forgiveness of that dentist. That's a hard thing to forgive.
I have a little bit more understanding compassion because of
my own life as a torture in a totally different
way for different reasons but somewhat similar. But I also
had this understanding because I always asked myself, why why
did this happen to me? Like I get the logical
(01:21:57):
reasons why. Like we just said, I was poor, my
mom had to go there, all that, I was young enough,
all those things, but like why, as a soul. Did
that happen to me? Why did that have to go
through that in this life? And this helped me understand like, oh,
it's literally karma. I've I had been the torturer and
now I was the receiver of the torture. And it's
not like this punishment. It's not like this hard and
(01:22:19):
fast rule like you have to experience every single thing
you did, like in detailer. But there is something of
it that is like, yeah, your soul does want to
experience both sides of it actually, and we don't think
that in the moment. In the moment, it's hard to really,
I guess, except that your soul would even arrange that
for yourself, or that it would choose to experience such
(01:22:40):
a thing as torture. But for me, I started to
understand that my soul did actually choose that, and there
was a reason for it, and that it comes from something,
It was caused by something, and in this grand cosmic
sort of consciousness, higher level sort of way, it made sense.
And in the craziest way, that did help me release
(01:23:00):
a lot more of that trauma and really start to
deal with that more effectively. I can actually go to
the dentist. Now it's still very hard for me. I
have to work at it and really get myself through it,
and but I can do it, and it is easier
and easier as that heals. So there's another really extreme
example of a past life, you know, directly affecting this life,
(01:23:23):
causing experiences in this life, but also the recall of
it allowing so much healing to take place.
Speaker 1 (01:23:31):
Have you ever explored or is it possible do you
think to understand exactly how many lives we've have experienced?
Speaker 3 (01:23:41):
You know, there's this there's like which level of perception
are we are we going to look through? Right? Because
at the highest, highest, highest level, let's say, from whatever
we're going to call Source or God, we've experienced every
single life that exists in all of the multiple universes
and timelines, and right like we are all of that
r but as like this as this life has, like lindsay, like,
(01:24:02):
how many lives has this aspect of source this soul experienced.
There's this conception that you have one hundred and eight
lives and you could be anywhere in that timeline of lives.
None of it's happening linearly though, So on another level,
of conception, we're experiencing all one hundred and eight at
(01:24:24):
one time, which is also why we can remember them.
But you you know, some people might be if you
were looking at it more linearly on their like twelfth
life or you know, their five fiftieth life or their
ninety ninth life, or they're like one hundred and six,
Like you're almost done, right. And I think people who
(01:24:44):
are experiencing in linear consciousness closer to that one hundred
and eighth level are people who we look at and go, oh,
that's an old soul, this is a why soul, or
if this is a person who's really tapped in or
connected or really understands like who and what we are.
I think that's sort of true in the people who
are at the other end of the people were like,
oh my god, is that perceiven conscious? Are they an NPC?
(01:25:04):
Like what's happening over here now?
Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
Is there a specific spiritual teaching that says that there
is one hundred and eight specific lifetimes?
Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Yeah, it's a it's like a Buddhist, Vedic sort of
Hindu It's it's over in those sorts of areas that
specific number has come up. Yeah, but it's not like
I don't I don't know a lot of people who
really get to like materialists or like, yes, exactly one
hundred and eight, and you know, I feel like it's
(01:25:35):
much more nebulous than this. So again, the way I
understand is like, right now, I'm Lindsay, and I have
this sort of string of lives that might be one
hundred and eight lives, and that specific stream is like
representing an aspect of the mass consciousness that is creating
itself and healing itself and discovering every aspect of itself.
(01:25:55):
But it is actually still just one strand of this
much larger consciousness too, right, and we're all sort of
moving that way or a part of that as well.
Is just again it's like which level do we want
to look at it from and what's actually helpful from
which to look.
Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
At Do you think that we have to experience lifetimes
as lower life forms like animals or insects and we
have to build ourselves up to humans that Oh.
Speaker 3 (01:26:27):
I don't know if I believe that, but that is
part of that one hundred and eight okay system of
why is that? Like you went through mineral and amiba
and insect and we have reptile and all of the
different things, and human is sort of the end result
of all of that, you know. And I would say,
at the very least, if that seems to be in
(01:26:48):
our genetic code and so we would have memory of
it anyway, somewhere, we'd have experience of it somewhere within us.
I don't know. It's hard for me to conceive of
that as like a lifetime though. It feels more like
you would, like, I don't know, experience part of it
as like maybe each one of those is one lifetime,
like all the mineral consciousness is, like you experiences as
(01:27:11):
one or something. It's I haven't really looked too deeply
into it for myself, but that's sort of my feeling
about it.
Speaker 1 (01:27:19):
Now. Going through the experience of reliving a past life
and experiencing your own death, this is a form of
energy release to where it will help trigger the healing
of some of those traumas, right.
Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
Yeah, it definitely brings healing of current life traumas, and
just even the understanding or the information of it can
do that. And that's why I started my guides and
allies guided me too offer past life readings and past
life trauma healing work because I don't necessarily I can't
(01:28:01):
necessarily give people that same type of reliving and immersive
memory that I've had, although anyone's capable of experiencing that,
I can't like trigger it for someone, but I can
give them the information and even the information I see
people's lives transforming just from receiving that, Like you had
this life and here's how it was for you, and
here's what happened for you. And people receive that and
they're like, oh, I mean, this makes more sense now,
(01:28:23):
and I understand this aspect about myself. And I've always
wondered where that came from, and now I know. And
that level of healing is also really powerful. And so
I think whether it is triggered for people spontaneously like
it has been for me, whether you receive that information
through like a reading like I offer people, or I've
received past life readings from other people too that have
(01:28:44):
been really helpful for me, and just the understanding, just
the information can can help you receive that healing or
release some things that you may have been holding on to,
or unleash some things that you were maybe repressing about yourself. Right,
that can happen too. All those types of healings can
be a part of this. I also think for me,
(01:29:05):
at least, you know, the spontaneous memories I've had, they've
come at pretty specific times, and when I look back,
I can see it's like they came at the moments
where I was ready to understand them and integrate them
and release what was ready to be released and do
that level of healing. So I know some people sometimes
are like, well, I want to do this and I
want to experience this, and I'm like, I don't know.
(01:29:27):
I think you should just trust your soul as a plan,
because it's always been really hard for me. It's not
like what we just talked about. Those two lives were
easy to experience, and they weren't easy to heal. You
know what was in this life, as lindsay, as a
result of either. So I'm not saying you want to
avoid it either. I'm just saying, like everything happens for
a reason, I think people should just trust themselves and
(01:29:50):
trust their soul in that. And same with if you're
called to do like a reading with myself or other
past life readers or healers. You know, I think you
trust that you feel called to that for a reason too,
and that it is time for you to learn something
else and integrate something else and release something else.
Speaker 1 (01:30:07):
Have you ever consciously gone in and attempted to extract
a past life memory.
Speaker 3 (01:30:16):
For myself? Yes, for yourself, No, I haven't. I work
with myself on a very just open ended way. Like
my way of working with myself is to go into
that state of you know, spiritual connection, deep meditation or
whatever people want to call it, and just say to
my GUIDs and allies like all right, like what now,
what do you want to do today? And I do
(01:30:39):
that for a really specific reason. It's because the times
in my life where I've tried to push something or
for something, it has not been as good. And the
times where it has just spontaneously sort of happened, it's
been profound over and over and over again. So I
have this ultimate level of trust in my guides and
allies and in my own soul that you know, what
needs to happen will happen, and that I I don't
(01:31:00):
have to ever push it or guide it. It will
just occur when I give it space and time. And
that's actually the way I work as well with people.
And this is why some people will ask me, like, oh,
can I come to you for medium ship stuff? Can
we contact you know, one of my past on loved
ones or whatnot? And I always say maybe, right. I
don't know, because I have had people who have passed
(01:31:23):
come through tarot readings and past life readings and you know,
guidance sessions that I do with people and different healings,
but I don't do it on purpose. And that's confusing
for some people because there's so many people who do
and they're like, I am a medium or I am
a past life reader, I am this and that, and
I'm like, I'll do this session with you. It'll be
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this long, and I know healing and blessings and stuff
will happen, but I don't know exactly what it's going
to be. And sometimes we do see past lives for people,
and sometimes we see people who have passed on, and
sometimes there are spiritual guides and allies come through, and
sometimes a massive blessing will happen and physical healing will happen.
But the truth is that I don't know what's best
for you, but your spiritual guides and allies do. And
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my spiritual guides and allies do. And so if we
just open that space and go in like exactly, the
right thing will happen. Which is not to say I
don't get specific. You know, when I do a past
life reading, it's a past life reading. We're going to
see your past life. But what will happen you know,
because of that or in connection with that, or what
blessing energy or messages will come through, or whether or
not a past on love one will come through along
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with that. That's all kind of up to you and
your soul and your spiritual guides and allies.
Speaker 1 (01:32:34):
Have you experienced or helped anyone experience a level of
physical healing from a past life trauma.
Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Physical healing the passive trauma. I know that physical healing
has occurred for people, but I'm trying to remember like
a specific example that would be good.
Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
I remember I had a guest talk about that in
one of they were helping so someone that in their
past life they were I believe shot in the neck
or shoulder, and in this life they had extreme shoulder pain.
And when they did the regression and went through the
whole lifetime and death, they came back and the shoulder
pain was gone, which is pretty incredible.
Speaker 2 (01:33:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:33:17):
Well, it's so interesting because I'm not remembering at the
moment any specific people I've worked with, which isn't to
say it didn't happen. I just that's how my memory works.
But I am remembering one of my own Another past
life resulted in a physical healing for me my right shoulder.
Speaking of shoulders, it's actually like under the shoulder blade,
so whatever that is, right, like in the scapular sort
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of area, like at the towards the spine and doubt anyway,
I have this really constricting mess of i'll say, like
fascia muscle and nerve that's just like all compacted or something.
And I have really severe back injuries and massive surgeries
and all sorts of stuff. So there's a you know,
good physical reason in this life. But I'm also like, why, right,
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there is always so tense, it's always so constricted. There
is nothing specific of any of my injuries that would
put something right there. Right, I had this another past
life memory came back, and I was an awful, horrifyingly
awful woman. This is like sixties seventies of you know,
nineteen sixties, nineteen seventies, so This is linearly my last
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life that I had before I came into this existence.
Horrifying woman, really beautiful, like very very beautiful, and like
power hungry. But I was a criminal too, and I
had this man who was like physically smaller than me
and not as attractive as me, and not as powerful
as me, and he was like my little like slave
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like peon, like I treated him like garbage and he
would do whatever I wanted because I could make him
do whatever I wanted, and I loved that. I was
such a selfish, horrifying person. I'm disgusted by it. So
that's who I was. And the part of the life
that I went into and re experienced was again my death,
my murder. Actually I won't go into too much detail
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because it was super graphic, but he stabbed. He started
off by literally stabbing me in the back in that
exact location. And it's funny because that area can be
an area where we hold pain in regards to like
self loathing and treating others with cruelty, So right exactly
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there and that's where he stabbed me. So it's like
energetically it would get stuck there more easily, it would
more easily manifest in the next life, because that's like
the exact spot to hold all those energies. But that wound, too,
was such a staggering blow to my ego. I didn't
even understand it for a few minutes of that experience.
I was like, what's even happening? Because I own him,
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he would never just stab I mean, what's what's stabbing me?
And it took me a while to realize, like, oh,
he's stabbing me, you know, And then worst things happened
and then I died. But you know, I in that
life kind of understood like, wow, I kind of deserved this.
I mean like I just treated him like the worst
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piece of garbage and used him in every way possible,
never give him any respect or love or anything, and
just expected it for years and years and years. So
I kind of already started settling into that before I
even fully died in that life and apparently came into
this life with that pain. And when I started thinking
about it, I was like, the times it would hurt
most were the times where I in this life have
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wanted to become like you know, you do what I say,
and like kind of controlling and like egotistical and selfish,
and it would like flare up in tense and like
tighten and cause all this physical pain for me. And
I was like, that's so fascinating. So like in this life,
when I'm nearing the energy that caused that in the
past life to be done to me, that physical wound
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will like reappear to remind me. Basically, It's almost like
a gift in a way. I mean, I don't want
to hurt, right, but part of me is like, well,
thank you for reminding me, Like why I don't want
to treat people like that ever again?
Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Right?
Speaker 3 (01:37:07):
And this is also like I mean, this is the
journey of our soul, like it is gathering information, gathering experience,
learning what it wants to do and doesn't want to
do in order to accomplish its goals, and like that's
why we experience anything we experience.
Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Really, are you ever the understanding that all of our
lifetimes are in a sense occurring at the same time,
because time doesn't truly occur linearly.
Speaker 3 (01:37:33):
Yeah, And I think that's a beautiful way and reason
why we can access all of these past lives and
all of this information is it is really truly happening
all right now? And you know, that's why it gets
hard sometimes are we seeing like the future actually or
the past, because I've had some past life readings where
it seems like the life is something you know, like
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Atlantis we might say, right, or like pre history like
distant distant civilizations but on Earth. But then I can
kind of get confused and be like, well, is this
the far future then? I mean, I don't know, and
are we kind of just going in this loop? I
mean we go from Golden Age to dark Age to
Golden Age to dark Age to Golden Age to dark Age,
Like it's not the same every time, but it's very
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similar every time. So there's even some part of me
that I can get kind of confused about time and
space and like where are we and when are we?
And you know, like I said, I'm already not good
with that stuff in this life. So it can get
sort of hard. The more you have ego death and
you know, release of these linear conceptions of time and space,
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it gets even weirder and weirder.
Speaker 1 (01:38:40):
Do you think that we could experience lifetimes as non
human entities such as what we would understand as extraterrestrial
or interdimensional beings?
Speaker 3 (01:38:51):
Yeah, I had one past life that came back for
a guy. This was before I was doing past life
reading specifically, but I was doing a guidance session with him,
and this energy sort of returned, and I understood that
it was him in another incarnation. And I didn't really
even have a conception of what this being was. I
knew it was physical. It seemed to me almost like
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a beast, but it looked so weird. I just was like,
I don't know exactly what this is or how to
describe it, but I understand your consciousness in this life,
and I understand what you're experiencing in that life, and
I can explain that and I could share that with you,
and that's the part that needs to come back anyway.
But it was super weird. The flora and fauna was
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like different, the whole things were different.
Speaker 1 (01:39:36):
Could you tell us a little bit about what that
experience was for that person.
Speaker 3 (01:39:42):
Yeah, it was this deep like oneness with life, like
as emotion, as a movement. The consciousness was so vast.
But it's so interesting because it's a high level of consciousness.
But I feel like we would project onto it and
judge it as a low level of consciousnesiness. Because it
was that I keep thinking like beast like, like it
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was just not It couldn't have spoken with words or
like written numbers down right, It can't build like a
tower for you, but it like understands everything perfectly. And
so there was this powerful magic, I want to say,
of this being that it just had. It could just
kind of change things and do things and be anything
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and understand anything, and that was like its purpose in
its ecosystem. But there was something in it too that
was therefore i'll say, like uncontrollable in like reactivity, so
when other beings might like approach it, it would just
maybe sometimes like snap them and break them apart. So
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like part of what was coming back to this person
was this understanding of the ability to connect with that
vast oneness energy, but also the warning to not get
like lost in it, because you kind of lose what
we talk about is like being civilized or human. When
you go too deep into that, it's like a wildness.
(01:41:08):
So it's really really crazy. And for whatever reason that
person understood perfectly, They're like, oh my god, I get
like in my wherever they were at, whatever they were doing,
whatever they you know, were experiencing and healing for themselves.
It was it was perfect for them. And it's funny
because I go into these things sometimes and I'm like,
am I supposed to like really say this to this
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person right now? Because this seems ridiculous, like like what
is this thing I'm looking at? And like is this
even real? And you know, but then it comes true
in that person, Like all the people I work with,
I'm so grateful are are like, oh yeah, I get it,
it's perfect. I'm like, well, good, because I kind of don't.
I mean, I do, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:41:48):
Now, could you possibly help the audience visualize how you
assist people with recovering past life memories. Do the memories
show up in your consciousness? In your mind?
Speaker 3 (01:42:04):
Yeah? And so this is what again. My spiritual guides
and allies kind of forced me into this. They were like,
you know, you're gonna start doing past life tarot readings
and I was like, I don't think that's a thing
that people do. And I don't think it's a thing
that people do. I actually think I'm like the only
person in the world who does past life tarot readings.
But I was like, you know, I don't know how
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to do that. I don't think it's a thing. And
they just kept like pushing it and pushing it and
pushing it, and finally I was like, oh god, I've
learned a long time ago that I just should do
what I'm told. Everything goes better for everyone that way.
And so I got some guinea pigs to let me
try it out on them, and you know, a layout
just kind of a formed in my mind, and I
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started doing this reading, and I didn't really like trust
it at first. I was like, I don't understand how
a tarot card is gonna show me someone's past life.
But I mean I understood since then, and I think
I understood this before then, truly, but that the card
is just like an access point. And really, anytime I'm
doing a reading, a life path reading or an insight
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vignette reading or these past life terre readings that I've
started been doing for a while now, but the card
is just an access point for the information to come
through a card, like doesn't even really matter. I could
do the same thing without cards, but the cards are
very helpful for me. Is a nice medium. So what
happens is I flip the first card over and I
usually sit for it with it for you know, a minute,
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and for whatever reason, that card just allows me this
portal through and I start seeing this life, and I
start seeing it, I start sensing like when or where
and what type of person, and you know, the sort
of background of the person and how they looked and
how they seem to me, and what their goals and
what their purposes were and why they were the way
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they were, and all of this information comes through, and
we actually used three cards to just kind of get
a full complete picture of that life and what happened, specifically,
what happened that matters for this life currently, because not
everything we live through in every life matters right now,
but some of it does. And that's why it's coming
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up in the reading. And you know, people will ask like,
why this life, Why does this life come up when
you did this reading for me? And the answer is
always like, that's the one that is the most helpful
for you right now. To receive this information and this
impression of yourself and that experience of yourself is going
to unlock something. It's going to unleash something, it's going
to heal something, it's going to allow you to understand
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something that right now you needed more than any other
life's lesson or karma, and so we look into that,
we see that, we look into some of the challenges
that are still going on in this current life because
of that life, and then we look into some of
the gifts because we also always have good things that
came from each of those lives too, even when it
doesn't always seem like that immediately. So we look at
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some of the gifts karmically that have come. We look
into the future, like what's coming next in this current
life because of those karma patterns, And usually that's a
really good opportunity to continue or finish the healing or
the lessons from that life, so you can kind of
close that life and maybe move on to the next
and then you know, we get some final messages. So
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that is always really healing for people, and the reading
itself is awesome for anybody. Again, like I said, I
think people just know when they feel called like, oh
that sounds really interesting or I really want to do that,
there's probably a past life that's waiting to give you
some messages. But I've also learned that because of how
healing this can be, and is that some people want
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or need like a longer extended support through healing the
trauma that comes up from this. Some of the traumas
that come up are so powerful in this current life
that it's going to take more than just a quick
interaction with it to really help it unfold and release.
So I also offer a past life Tarot healing journey
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in which we intentionally, you know, uproot some of this
old trauma and do past life readings and do guidance
sessions and do practices, and it's a longer extended support
to help people heal. Sometimes we get to do multiple
lives in that journey, and sometimes we just do one
because it's big enough to twant to work on the
whole time, you know, and it's just different for everyone.
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So that's been really beautiful too. I've seen people really transform,
you know, career, physical health, mental health, emotional health, just
in this. It's usually about six months time, and it's incredible.
So all of that came from my GUIDs and allies
being like, hey, you should do past life terror readings.
Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
That's great. I'd love to get your insights into how
to effectively make contact with your guides, make first contacts.
I get all the time, folks, asking me about how
personally I've made contact with my guides. Initially it was
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through meditator. I oftentimes use plant medicines, and I don't
ever want to recommend anyone to use any other substances.
Speaker 2 (01:47:07):
So I'd really love to.
Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
Hear about your experiences with how you initially made contact
with your guides and maybe any recommendations for folks that
are looking to to find their guides but have no
idea on how to start with that.
Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
Yeah, it's such a big question, and for me, I
really I the more I look back, the more I
see I like came into this life with like a
full contact already happening, and it's just been unfolding. You know.
Me accepting that and understanding that is really the main
blockage to that ever being a part of my life.
So that's been ongoing all the time. But if you
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want to, like if anybody out there, what I always
emphasize is that this is all coming through your heart.
It's not coming through your mind, it's not coming through logic,
it's not coming through your thoughts. It's coming through your heart.
And when you know that and you focus on that,
that's going to be the fastest track and the safest track.
You know, there's all these different like things you can
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do in sigils and whatever, blah blah blah. You can
do anything you feel called to. I would just always
focus on the love aspect of it, because the universal
source is love. God is love, whatever you want to
call all that. The spiritual ancestors are love. That highest
level of consciousness is love, and your heart is where
you access love, feel love, right, transmit love. So all
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the messages I get, all of the impressions, I get,
all the images I get, all of that is coming
through my heart, not through my mind. So when I
go into a spiritual space, I also then do it
through love, you know. And so I tell people sometimes
when they're like I don't know like how to get
into that vibe or how to raise my vibration or
how to like get like deeper into that, I'm like,
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just lay down, close your eyes, hold your heart, and
just go love love love love love love love love
love love, Like just sit there and say it and
feel it, right, Or maybe you imagine all the things
that remind you of love, like your dogs and your
cats and birds and the things that you love in
life and nature and like all the good stuff, babies laughing,
Like whatever it is that you're calling that forward, you're
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going to start feeling that in your heart, that's going
to start putting you in that space. But what I also,
you know, kind of warn people about is that for
a long time, you know, instead of connecting really clearly
with your own higher consciousness or your own spiritual guides
and allies, what you might do instead is like cry
a lot, because what you actually you have to do
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first sometimes is heal. And I always come back to this,
and you know, I have a lot of students and
a lot of different classes and healings and readings and
all these things I do, and I always come back to, like,
the reason we're healing emotionally, mentally, physically, or any of
these levels is because that is the spiritual journey we've
talked about, Right, this shoulder pain I had is physical,
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but what was the root of it. It was spiritual,
It was emotional, it was energetic. So all of this
healing we're doing is actually clarifying all the levels of
our body and mind in order to just be what
we already are, which is this conduit for love, which
is the source of all things in the universe and
is the source of all of these messages, visions and more. So,
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I would say those those are the best ways to
sort of start that or get in deeper connection. But
I also you know, if you do a guidance session
with me, your guides and allies come through, And so
if you want to know who some of them are
and you want to receive messages in that way, that's
something that I do too. But you know, the other
last thing I'll add to this is that all of
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us have many, many, many spiritual guides and allies. I
think a lot of people think they have like one
or something. It's like, no, I'm going to say, each
of us has tens and tens of spiritual guides and
allies who are on our side, part of our teme,
helping us out along the way.
Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
And there's something else I've encountered since I've made contact
with my guides and started having my spiritual experiences is
the negative entities and spiritual attachments that I've had to
deal with myself. I've recently helped others deal with their
own spiritual attachments, and this is something that most people
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will probably never realize they have unless they are seeking
some of these spiritual experiences.
Speaker 3 (01:51:27):
Right, yeah, I do. And I think that's another reason
why it's so important to be healing at any levels,
because those things can only access us through our wounds
and through our lower lower vibrations. You might think of it, right,
which is where, which is our wounds, and is our traumas,
and is those things. So there's yet another reason to
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heal everything you can, whenever you can, like to be
the brightest you can be. It's because those types of
energies really love to feed off of us, and they
love to get their little hooks in wherever they can.
And it's also true that sometimes as you're healing, and
as you're opening your spiritual channels and as you're connecting
more with your guides and allies, that some of these
things seem to like come out of the woodwork to
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like specifically target and attack you. And you know, the
way to understand that is to say, like, well, you
were a food source for them and their friends until
you started healing, and they don't like that, and they
want that brightness you're creating, but they want it as
food for themselves instead of for you. So they're going
to try to like maybe pull you back off track
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or get through your defenses. And I think the beautiful
thing about that is we don't have to fear any
of it because we know that that isn't love, right,
and we are love and that's all we are. That's
another reason to come back to that heart space and
that energy, because they can't get through that.
Speaker 1 (01:52:45):
I mean, I've had experiences getting rid of some of
these things just by busting out laughing very hard. They
like absolutely hate higher vibrational energy laughter.
Speaker 2 (01:52:55):
Love. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:52:57):
Well, you're just talking about this because I was just
a Walmart the other day and there was this woman
who is demonically possessed. And you know, other people would
understand this as like someone who is really just mentally unwell,
it's the same difference to me, but I see I
see the possession instantly, and they usually see me instantly too,
because I'm like this blazing beacon of light and they're like, ooh,
(01:53:19):
what's that shiny thing? Right? So we walk by this
woman's you know, woman form demon energy and she was
like standing there right now. We had to like squeeze
past her to get through, and she just like instantly
like glonded onto me. Right behind me and was like
following me. And I don't know what she was saying
or doing because I don't care anymore because this happens
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to me like all the time. That's really I have
so many crazy stories of really mentally emerald people who
demonic energies just come through and like attack. In fact,
the one not that long ago, literally from across the street,
it was like, lindsay, you're gonna die. I'm like, dude,
whoa Okay, did you know who the person was? No?
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I was. I was in where I have never been before.
Speaker 2 (01:54:06):
Yeah, no, I know.
Speaker 3 (01:54:08):
People don't. People don't always believe me. I'm like, no,
I'm targeted. I'm not a targeted individual from the government.
I'm a target suitual from the spiritual realm. But that
was a really crazy, wild experience. I have a I
have a video out about it that probably has Asheville
somewhere in the title if people want to go listen
to that extended story on Rogueways. But this woman at
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Walmart was just like, you know, she she targeted us.
She like globbed onto the back of me and she
was like trying to I mean, I feel it as
her trying to get through at the demon trying to
get through my spiritual protection. And but again this has
happened to me so many times that I just have
this unbreakable faith. I didn't even turn around. I didn't
look at her, I didn't do anything. I didn't respond
(01:54:50):
or acknowledge her even I just held that wall, that
spiritual light I call it, you know, calling in the
golden light, and that repelled her, but it all so
seemed to make her angry, the demon angry because it
didn't get what it wanted, and so I could tell
it was going to then go like attack other people,
whereas before it had been kind of hanging out at
the front, like being mindless and just being a negative
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energy around, but now it was going to start directing
it at people because I had like properly deflected it.
So then I understood that I had to have to,
but I wanted to make sure it didn't attack anyone else.
So I was calling in the golden light to sort
of protect anyone who it might interact with, and just
bring in, you know, the angelic or whatever spiritual guides
(01:55:34):
and allies. And it really is just that permission they need,
like an invitation. I mean this is a public spot
in a way, right, We're all allowed to be there,
but someone has to invite them to come do their
work there. So it's really all I'm doing and they
do the work, not me. And so I saw that
just kind of come around these people she was headed towards,
and that like stopped her again, and she started screaming
(01:55:55):
because she couldn't get through the light wall, and then
you know, she's upset, and eventually I realized, I just
need to put this around the whole store. She's just
gonna hang out here all day, like trying to attack people,
And so I called and asked if it could be
put around the whole store. And she started leaving and
she got to the front door and there's you know,
thirty people she could possibly look back at. But she
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looks back at me and it makes eye contact and
like sneers or whatever and wanders away. But you know,
part of me could feel like victimized by that, like
why me, why is this always happening? But another part
of me is like, I mean I really think that's
like why I went to Walmart today at this time
is because source whoever was like, well, you can go
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in and call in the light and help everyone get
through this demonic encounter. And I want everyone to also
take from that that I'm not special, you know, I'm
not like I don't have like a special level of
clearance from angelic energy or something. It's like anyone can
call on those energies and ask for them to come,
and they will always come. They never don't respond. And
(01:56:58):
sometimes I think some people don't really feel that necessarily
right away, but it is happening. Sometimes there's deeper layers
of darkness they have to come through to get to you,
but they're always there, They're always coming. So you know,
if you ever find yourself in any situation where the
darkness seems to be around, you can call in the light.
And I think one of the things too is people
don't believe like they believe they have to be like
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in a religion or of a specific belief or call
on a specific entity. And I don't think you do.
I think you just call on whatever. Again, what connects
to your heart? Like, what do you love most? Right?
Do you love Jesus? Call on Jesus? Do you love Ganesh?
Call on Ganesh? Whoever you want, whoever you believe is
of the light and truly loving ask them to come
(01:57:40):
in or just do what I did call in the
light itself.
Speaker 1 (01:57:44):
Is this something that you also help folks with, is
identifying and ridding spirits attachments.
Speaker 3 (01:57:51):
Yes, that's one of my favorite things to do, is
helping people brighten themselves in their space and rid themselves
of those dark attachments and energies. You know, it's one
of my It just tends to be the people who
I work with. Honestly, It's like I don't even necessarily
go seeking it or advertising it, but most of the
people who come to me do have some level of
that darkness to clear out, and honestly, I think most
(01:58:13):
of us do. It's not always as intense as what
I just described, Yeah, but you know it's around so Yeah.
I think the more we heal ourselves and the more
we clear those things, the better off we and everyone
else around us.
Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
Is awesome, Lindsay, this was fantastic as usual. If folks
want to find out more about you get some of
your services, how can they do so?
Speaker 3 (01:58:39):
The best way would be to go to rogue ways
dot org. It's ways as in pathways, not as in
ocean waves, and Rogueways dot org is the place you
can find the books that I've channeled through the links
to rogueways if you want to listen or watch along,
and also the services. You can book any of them there.
I also have classes that I teach that you can
take that are self paced on your own time, or
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we can always do that one on one. I teach people.
I love to teach people what I do or any
level of the things we've been talking about, and anyone
can develop those gifts in themselves too, so that's one
of the things I do. I do events every solstice
and equinox. We just had one yesterday actually it was
one day of Brightness and so you can get booked
for the next one if you want to come to that.
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It's a really powerful uplifting healing no darkness there, no
darkness could exist on one day of brightness. And yeah,
my Past Life Terror reading is the past life Trauma
healing journey and all of that is all linked to
from roguways dot org.
Speaker 1 (01:59:37):
Awesome, Lindsey, thank you once again, and we'll definitely do
this again of course, and until next time, everyone, have
an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow. See y'all. Dan
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