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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Author and amazing researcher of ancient history and philosophy.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Matthew Lacroix. How are you tonight, Matthew.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Great, it's it's awesome to be here with you, Chris.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
Great, great power things out there.

Speaker 3 (00:17):
Well spring is finally arriving in Maine. Our big snowpack
is starting to open up holes with the sun is
getting getting to it, and slowly but surely the spring
birds are moving in and I'm I'm excited for our
first sixty degree day.

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Great sounds great. Well, let's get into this. Let's tell
me about a little bit about your background and what
got you started down this path. Yes, let's get started
with that.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
Well, I was. I'm a big outdoors guy. I hike
a law I was. I wasn't even really much into
writing when I was younger. I mean, I did a
little bit of dabbling here and there, but I was
more someone who was trying to seek something that maybe
I wasn't really aware of. I was spending a lot
of time not even not only just in the outdoors,

(01:06):
but even is pretty much as far into the wilds
as I could. And now, in retrospect, looking back on it,
I think one of the major reasons I did that was,
and I actually used to talk about it with some
of the people I was with, was I just really
was rejected a lot of the model of what society
had turned into, with people wanting to spend their time

(01:28):
either you know, going to sporting events or going to
the mall or all these things, and I couldn't stand it.
It was something that really was causing me almost to
feel lost. And so every several times a week I
would take off from high school or college or whatever
and just hike into the hike in the mountains. I

(01:48):
went to Plymouth State University, so I was just south
of the White Mountains of New Hampshire, and I got
to have my fill of going up there sometimes every
other day. And for me, spending time out there and
reconnecting with what I realized was the real reality, you know,
the balance of everything and where it in harmony of

(02:09):
where it should be, and the quiet so that you're
of the quiet, allowing higher consciousness to be able to
be very easily obtained. And and and then when I
came back after spending sometimes days camping or whatever it was,
it would really be very apparent to me the differences
of being all of a sudden surrounded by wireless signals

(02:31):
and blaring radios and TVs and all these things. And
it was it was very quick quickly that I started
to realize that there was these two worlds that were
clashing together. There was, you know, this one world that
we've created where we're we're all distracted and doing all
these interesting things. In some cases, people are just almost

(02:53):
running between between structures and ignoring the outdoors entirely, and
and and not and not even that, but in most
places where we have bright city lights, which is pretty
common in a lot of urban areas, people can't even
see the stars. So if you if you don't have
any outdoor, any of the outdoors around you, and you

(03:13):
can't see the stars anywhere, it's very easy to cause
yourself to become lost in a in a system that
is created for that very purpose, just because of the
very the fact that we have the potential to do
a lot of very amazing things with our mind and
waking up our consciousness and our chakras. And there's a

(03:35):
lot of there's a lot of danger and thread against
people fundamentally seeing reality in a completely different way. So
when I was when I was spending a lot of
time out there and having all these experiences. I started
to do some writing about it and reflecting back on
what it, what it did for me, and how I
how I saw things, and very quickly when I when

(03:57):
I was at the same time studying ancient history about consciousness,
it really became clear to me that that we don't
understand our ancient history, and more importantly, it's deliberately been
held back, so we don't know the truth of a
lot of the events that have happened over thousands of years.
And more importantly the book the book that I ended

(04:18):
up writing after that that stretch of realizing all of this,
I wrote a book called The Illusion of Us, The
Suppression and Evolution of Human Consciousness. Because it became apparent
that that consciousness and seeking the higher side of ourselves
was pretty much the lowest priority of you could call it,

(04:38):
our educational systems, in our in our our system as
a whole. And so I wanted to figure out, well,
what is real? You know, who are we? What makes
what makes up our identity? Is it our is it
our physical body? Or is it is it this much
much more important side of our consciousness and That's what

(04:59):
led me down to realizing that consciousness and understanding our
multi dimensional dimensional cells is something that we really have
been held back from. And you really see that if
you think about how we have a curriculum, especially in
places like the United States, where consciousness and delving into

(05:20):
these these deeper sides are not even they're not even taught,
and nobody even really discusses them. It's like a really
taboo subject still because where we are in many ways
kept in this illusion of both our physical body and
that the physical reality around us is all that exists,

(05:40):
and that keeps us in this perpetual loop.

Speaker 1 (05:43):
I think definitely, So you would definitely say, I mean,
our entire history is basically a lie and most of
what we read in history books is false.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
That's pretty accurate.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Yeah, it's I mean, it's not like we would say,
it's not like we would say every single thing is
is a creation of a false reality. It's just that
it's been manipulated in such a way where it's been
written by the victors to give a predetermined outlook for

(06:15):
what the history was. And I think by far the
best example of that, and this is this is one
of the biggest conscious shifts. I just had a great
discussion with someone last weekend. This is one of the
biggest conscious shifts that is occurring right now. Of course,
not on the level that maybe you and I would want,
because a lot of people are the levels of consciousness

(06:35):
in the group that spent that that's going to listen
to this, and people that that we associated with, we
tend to have a little bit of a higher conscious level.
It's just simply awareness. And so some people, even people
that aren't really conscious and aware, they're still they're still
responding to some of these altered history examples. And let
me give you that that example, and that would be

(06:56):
Columbus Day, because right now I've seen only in the
last couple of years, a general you could call the
general population, this collective consciousness we have has started to
really push for Columbus Day to be completely changed to
Indigenous or Native American Day or whatever whatever they want
to call it. And that's amazing because that's a complete

(07:19):
opposite if you think about it, of what we were
celebrating before, and that that that basically reflects the idea
that we used to see Columbus as a hero, just
like all these other these other characters that we have
gone down in our history when at when went out,
they're actually the villain. They're actually the one who is
the bad guy, I guess you could call it. And

(07:40):
that's why we're changing to realize that if you look
at what Columbus really did, it's being sent over from
the this you know, the the ego of the Catholic Church,
and then Cortes going to Mexico, and then Pizarro conquering
South America. You saw, there's this systematic conquering of of
the north to the south of the Americas, and that
was where some of the most preserved legacy of these

(08:05):
ancient cultures that you know, went back thousands of years
existed and they were essentially all wiped out. And the
reason why that's so important is that we always we celebrated, oh,
Columbus came over here. They were all just these very
primitive people who were you know, they were they weren't living,
they weren't technologically advanced at all. They were just like

(08:27):
basically like animals and in their mind, and and Columbus
came over and brought all these you know, these people
that we we deem appropriate and you know, like US,
and they they colonized and took over and became the
land of America. Whereen as reality, if you, if you
look at objectively, how those events were viewed and how

(08:47):
they actually happened, it was really just basically an army
of soldiers that had this, that had this. Basically they
were sent to to find this, you know, this this
land of America whatever and then basically take it over.
And now they're really interesting about that though, is is

(09:08):
that we're told that Columbus was being sent west because
he wanted to expand the spice trade route. But if you,
if you look, he's he he came west into the
Bahamas and down through Puerto Rico and Cuba, and he
never went west. He never went further west in there.
In fact, he came multiple times back to those same
locations because when they when they came there, they found

(09:30):
the natives wearing gold on their on their necklaces and
various different metals and things that he took them as slaves,
and he asked, he demanded and forced them to tell
him where they got that gold from. And then they
spent the next next several years mining and using the
local people as slaves in Cuba and Puerto Rico and

(09:51):
and hundreds of thousands died. Hundreds of thousands of people died,
And it's something that we don't even that people don't
even know about in history because our history has been
so rewritten by the victors that we have this complete
false view of what actually happened. So if you look
at that, on the surface, Columbus, we're told Columbus is
supposed to go west for a spice trade route, but

(10:13):
he keeps going to Puerto Rico and Cuba and mining
gold and then bringing it back to Spain. It really
doesn't sound like they were trying to find a western route.
He never even landed in Mexico. And so the whole thing,
you realized that the motivation and the reason behind the
reason they really went there was to both find these
resources of the Americas and get them and also conquer

(10:36):
these these people because the Church knew that there was
a threat with all with a lot of the information
that was contained in the Americas, and there was a
lot of really really important information that had been connected
back to a lot of these important places that we
can get into. But so that's an example. So right now,
the people of the Americas are starting to realize that

(10:59):
here this soldier from the church came over and was
part of taking over and stealing all the land, and eventually,
through war and all the terrible means that occurred, they
were able to eradicate and take over and and and
you could completely take this land of America and turn
into what it is today and what it is it Well,

(11:20):
we have people fighting over saying that certain certain cultures
and certain ethnicities don't belong here, and yet we're all
people that traveled here. It doesn't make any sense. It's
so silly if you think about it. And the population
of Native Americans that still exists in the United States
is less than five percent. It's it's less I think
it's less than one percent. It's a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction.

(11:44):
And that's that's really very disturbing to think about that.
Just it's essentially it's a genocide of the Native people.
And and that to me, people are starting to realize that,
and they're changing their model of viewpoint to start celebrating
the Native people rather than this conquering supposed hero.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yes, you see that, and I see a lot of
people are waking up to a lot of the things
that are going on nowadays, and thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (12:11):
That's some amazing information. Really appreciate that.

Speaker 3 (12:15):
So anything and anything I say, I really hope that
people are objective and they go look yourself, because that's
when truth really becomes real for the individual, when they
actually can go verify information. I've done a lot of
a lot of study and research because I don't I
don't want to say something that's that's maybe not real,
or something that some people might think is a creation

(12:37):
of one person. I try to only focus myself as
a being objective based to find.

Speaker 1 (12:43):
The truth, right, Yes, and yeah, always do your own research, definitely.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
So going back in our history, I'm fascinated with the
ancient mythos, whether it be Egyptian or Sumerian. I'm just
now learning all about it. Going back to beginning, can
you tell us a little bit more about what you
learned about where we came from? Were we genetically manipulated?

Speaker 3 (13:15):
Well, this is a very uh this is in terms
of when someone goes down this road of uncovering truth.
And it's interesting, right, people are on one end of
the spectrum of the other and a lot of people
don't understand why that is you know one person who
is falls under this illusion of just you know, watching
reality shows and thinking everything is the way it is,
and that's that person. And then there's people like you

(13:37):
and I and others who to a lot of people,
they seem completely crazy, like insanely crazy if you tried
to talk to them about this stuff. And what you
just said is one of the most taboo sides of
this of this of this studying, because there's such a
there's such a stigma and in a control of the

(13:58):
idea of where we came from and who we are.
And I can go I can go down some of
the ways that that's that's happened to us. But essentially
we have to have a whole discussion about Darwinism because
that that led us into this cave of our own perceptions.
And I want to start with that because then we
can go into understanding where we really came from and

(14:22):
where and what this place is. So let let's let's
go back a little bit to understand that when the
Church was becoming powerful after the Roman Empire collapsed, after
the Byzantine Empire, it was originally called collapsed, it morpheden
formed into something called the Roman Catholic Christian Church. It
was just this this re retooling of the Roman Empire

(14:47):
because they knew it was an unsustainable model. All empires
are unsustainable, by the way, including currently right now. So
when the when the Roman Empire collapsed and the Church
adopted this, uh, these various versions of the Bible and
these teachings that are either stolen and rewritten from cuneiform
writings like We're going to go over or they're taken

(15:08):
from places like the Book of the Enoch or various
places like that which don't give any credit to. But basically,
what they they realized was that the whole future aspect
that they were going to go look into achieving was
controlling thought and controlling information and controlling how people think.

(15:29):
And that's why so many people were burned at the
at stake if they were considered witches or whatever it was,
because they were considered people that thought differently, Like if
someone said that they thought that the Earth was in
the center of the universe and that they could you know,
they could perceive or or they figured out that there
were you know, planets all revolving around the Sun and

(15:51):
that we're just simply part of you know, a great
billions of solar systems and galaxies. That person would have
been burned at the stake because they're disrupting the model
of reality that's being controlled. And that hasn't changed much.
People are not burned at the stake anymore. But there's
still this very very very strong attempt to keep a

(16:12):
lid on this information. And we're going to go into
the Vatican archives later, but it all ties into this
powerful Christian and Catholic Church Roman empire that had collapsed,
and what they essentially did was there was this there
was this scientist named Darwin who visited the Galopagus Islands,
and he had a theory that all evolution was based

(16:34):
on survival the fittest, and that it had all come
from a primordial pool of ooze, and that in that
a tiny little creature could could turn into everything from
a tiger to a wooly mammoth to whatever it was
to eventually a person. Right, and that was how that
was what that's basically still what our model that's taught

(16:55):
in school today is, except if you look into Darwin
and you look into what he actually wrote in his papers,
he specifically said that he found tremendous flaws in his work,
and that he called his science simply a placeholder because
he knew that in the future it would be disproved
and his theories would become just past theories that were

(17:18):
eventually realized. The problem was the Church really liked Darwin's
ideas because it gave us a very skewed point of
reality that were that were nothing here right, that were
just an evolved ape, and that we're everything you see
around the globe, all the wars, in all the conflict
is simply a leftover trait of our slow evolutionary process

(17:41):
out of the ape world, and that we're just we're
still animals. And that's the model that's been used today
to explain everything everything, and that's how people That's basically
how people think, except there's a big problem with that.
It's not true at all. So when I was I

(18:03):
used to believe that that was real, but there were
certain things that didn't make sense to me, and I
didn't realize that it wasn't real. And still I until
I started to really think logically and then dig into
some of these cuteiform tablets and to look into some
of our ancient history. A lot of people don't understand
that if you don't understand ancient history, you will not

(18:23):
be able to correctly put the pieces together of things
today because they directly correlate to all the things that
happened in our past. And so what that means is
when you read ancient cuneiform writings from from summer, our
earliest civilization, and you know, right up through the Babylonians
and the Assyrians and all the way up through the

(18:46):
Egyptians and then then the Greeks and all of these,
you see these similarities, similarities that pop up all over
the place, and they basically tell almost the same story.
And I want to very strongly point out something I
recently talked about before, but one of the problems with
these cuniform writings is that they're very long, and a

(19:09):
lot of people don't spend the time to actually read them.
But more importantly, because they don't actually go to read them,
they just take everything as hearsay. And what that means
is if someone's able to manipulate them into thinking a
certain thing about those writings, they'll just simply take it
as face value and believe it. And what happened essentially
is this there have been many people who have translated

(19:32):
these ancient cuneiform writings, which this is our earliest writings,
that explain everything. They explain where all the laws came from, agriculture,
they explain where how our reality became what it is today.
And the reason why those are not at the top
notch of our educational system and everyone's reading them and

(19:54):
understanding them is that one we've been made to believe
they're a myth, and two, most important, the very person
who has spent the most time translating them has we've
been made to believe that he created all of his
notion and ideas incorrectly based on what he wanted, and
that all of references to what are known as the

(20:17):
Onanaki or the Annuna they call themselves, any reference to that.
If you were to go online and ask how many
people think the aonachi are real, I bet you one
out of every three people is going to think that
Zecharia Sitchen created that. And this is why this is
the point I want to start and clear this whole
mess up, because not a lot of people are talking

(20:37):
about this right now. In eighteen forty nine, there was
a huge discovery made in Ninevah Iraq which is now Iraq,
and that used to be the ancient you know, a
Syrian of Babylonian empires. Now what they found was called
the asher Bonapaul Library, and it contained these cuneiform writings

(20:58):
that had been amassed by the king there, asher bona Paul.
He traveled all over Mesopotamia and he gathered all of
these these really rare cuneiform writings and he put them
all in this massive library. It is the most important
library on earth, and most people have never heard of it.
I have did a video on my channel about it
to try to help people understand because this library contained

(21:23):
some of the most important versions of all of these
texts that we have. In fact, if they didn't find
that library, we won't even have them today now. And
why that's important was that shortly after the discovery is
made in eighteen forty nine, there was a man named
George Smith, who's who is an expert, a serriologist. This
is someone this is way before the cover up in

(21:47):
the in the putting suppressing of this information ever occurred.
Then George Smith translated things like the otra Haasis and
the Epic Ecic of Gilgamesh literally fifty to seventy years
before zecher is Sichen, and in his translations are found
very clearly if you were to go look up look
up his work. It's called the the Chaldea Count of Genesis,

(22:11):
I think, and in the in that writing he translated
in the Lady eighteen hundreds all of this information and
what it says is it talks about all of these
gods that came to earth. They and they call themselves
the Innuna. Now, before anyone thinks the Aonachy again is
some word that someone made up. This this great god

(22:34):
being that they all are worshiper are basically obsessed with.
His name is Anu. And Anu can be seen all
throughout the ancient world basically obsessing about this character Onu.
And they're these, these beings part of this empire under Anu.
Their name just simply derives from the from his name. So,

(22:56):
and this is actually really common, like in Assyria they
mim this the same thing in Assyria, where these where
these where these empires were, where these libraries were found.
Like with the leader there, Asher Bunnapaul. His name is
derived from Ashur, who is the name of the original
Sumerian god in lil So his name was Ashure when

(23:19):
he went up into the Assyrian Empire and started those
those civilizations, and so as you can right there, like
the name of kings later on just simply derived from
his name. And that's how these these beings work. They're
they're very they're obsessed with loyalty and honor and this
empire mentality. And when you start to reflect on our

(23:41):
world and how things have gone, it really starts to
make a lot of sense that that's how the model
of earth has gone too. So what did these cuneiform
writings say? Well, first of all, the Sumerians are the
earliest civilization we have on Earth. They clearly state in
their writings in many, many, many places that all of

(24:01):
the things that they that they supposedly were the first
to develop, they did not develop them. They were given
that information. And they all say the same thing. In
places like the Sumerian Kingless, which is one of these
cuniform writings, the very first sentence says Kingship was lowered
from heaven, and then it talks about the flood and
all the devastation, and then it says after the flood,

(24:24):
Kingship was again lowered from heaven, and it was in
the city of kish and it talks about how we've
had these disasters on the earth that have wiped out
periods of civilizations and then they had to be restarted again.
And that makes a lot of sense if you start
to consider why there's so much advanced technology in places

(24:44):
like the Great Pyramid of Giza that we simply just
can't understand today because it's part of these lost civilizations.
And that's something I talk about quite a bit. And
so these cuneiform writings, to make a long story short,
they say that these beings, which are just advanced humanoids.
Let's make that very clear. They're just advanced humanoids. That's

(25:06):
why we do not look like anything else on this earth,
because we're not. We are them people. It's funny, right,
Everyone's like, I don't know if I believe in aliens,
that's pretty ridiculous. Just go look in the mirror, because
we are essentially them. We're we're essentially a genetically modified
you could call it, a Denisovian Neanderthal, early early hominid

(25:30):
humanoid that was given their gifts and we were basically jumpstarted.
So if that what that means is this, if if
they had never come to Earth, then we would have
had it would have taken potentially millions of years to
get to where we are now. Except that's not really

(25:51):
how things work. It's does again this evolutionary models, what
is evolution? Does it?

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Does it?

Speaker 3 (25:57):
How does it?

Speaker 4 (25:58):
What is?

Speaker 3 (25:58):
How does it really happen? Versus what we've been told?
And the way I look at it is I got
a lot of a lot of these questions can be
answered from like really fantastic researchers like Lloyd Pye who
have looked into these early evolutionary sides and they realized
that there's this whole side of macro evolution versus microevolution.

(26:19):
And what that means is a species cannot transform into
a different species. That is physically impossible. However, a species
can take on different traits as part of their environment
to become accustomed to it. As in let's say, some
kind of an elephant wooly mammoth type creature could grow
more hair based on being exposed to an environment that's

(26:42):
extremely cold over long periods of time. But an animal
could not grow an extra ear or some kind of
an extra fund that doesn't distance doesn't work, work, And
that's how we've been misled down this road of thinking
that here's Earth, no one ever visits it, it's isolated.

(27:03):
Everything is happening here completely on its own, and it's
part of this process, when in reality, this is what
I've come to the conclusion of, there are sentient beings
all over the called a multiverse, because it's no longer
a universe. Our understanding is that the universe is actually
made up of layers of almost infinite versions of itself.

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And that's how that's how time. Time itself is basically
a completely different concept than we can understand. So basically
how it works is sentient civilizations reach a certain point
where they develop an expansion and understanding of everything around them,
and they visit other worlds and other places, and they

(27:46):
end up becoming either stewards of those places or they
become almost like packed parasites on those places. And that
has to do with the mentality of whatever these advanced
beings are and when during the research I've done, and
if you look into ancient Native American cultures like the

(28:07):
Hopie who, by the way, I think pregate any other
Native American civilization in the Americas, I believe they're part
of a lost beginning that does not derive from the
ice bridge in the bearing straight at all. But anyway,
the Hopie talk about how they were connected to the
Pleiadians as part of their ancient, ancient legacy, and that

(28:29):
the Pleaadians were part of the designers of Earth, and
what that means is, instead of thinking on an evolutionary
pathway that everything came from this sludge and then changed
into something else and whatever it was over billions of years,
think of it as when a planet is ready, when
it's cooled enough to support life. Then you see these

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planners you could call them, call them galactic planners, could
go to a go to a place, you could go.
You can even call it panspermia, because in some cases
some of this is probably panspermia and some of it
is direct intervention from others. And basically what that means
is most cases life did not come from here. It
was either either arrived here through asteroids and comets and

(29:14):
other means, or it was brought here. And the conclusion
that I've come to that the Palladian teachings really like
Barbara Marciniac, really does a great job talking about this,
is that I believe that the Earth is part of
this DNA library. So you think of it as every
content and every unique environment has you know, thousands and

(29:36):
millions of different species, whether it's insect all the way
up through you know, birds and animals and all these things.
We see they're part of this genetic library on Earth,
and we've been systematically, of course, destroying that library over
the last several hundred years. In fact, over even then,
just within the last couple of years, we've reached the

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point where humans are now directly responsible for fifty percent
of all reptile and mammal species on the Earth that
have disappeared. It's so sad, and a lot of those
are tiny and small, and we never knew they existed,
but we still essentially think about what that means. We
are responsible for causing a species that's been here for

(30:19):
millions of years to never potentially never exist again. And
that's a really sad thing to think about. You know,
that species will never exist ever again, and it's not
because of natural selection, it's simply because of call it
a society that is given an incorrect model of their

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connection to the Earth, and that their stewarts rather than
just trying to rape and consume all the resources as
fast as possible. And that misconception is why we're in
a place where in today of treating this world the
way we do, rather than treating it like this galactic
library of species and plants that could be potentially from
all place, all over the galaxy. And so we as humans,

(31:04):
we are simply this experiment. We're an experiment in both
consciousness being housed in this third dimensional body as well
as an experiment of being essentially these these Onanaki you
could call them children. It's we are these Ononaki uh laborers,
I guess. And that's and that's where I see our

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truth coming from it. And but really, anyone who thinks
that this is somehow gonna make them feel sad or depressed,
it's complete opposite, because we've been made to believe we're
nothing and then we're just apes, when the reality is
we are incredible beings that have have gifts that have
been instilled in our DNA, in our genetics from these

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you call them gods, these advanced beings. That makes us
far more important than we realize. And I want to
make one more point before we move on. There are
seven colors in the visible like spectrum. I tell this
to people all the time because I feel like I'm
a broken record, but I can't not tell people there
are seven colors in the visible like spectrum. If you
look at a rainbow, this is very important. If you're

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looking at that rainbow, from red up to purple, every
single one of those colors is going to have an
increasingly higher vibration. And what that means is every color
in the visible life spectrum goes from red to blue
and then purple, from a low vibration to a very
high vibration. In the cover of my book shows this

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red versus blue world that's in conflict because it has
to do with these these competing sides of keeping us
either in our lowest state or allowing us to reach
our highest state. And this is where it gets amazing.
We have seven chakras in our body. Chris, have you
heard of chakras?

Speaker 4 (32:55):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Okay, good. We have seven chakras in our body. It
represents these points of energy where we can completely fundamentally change.
They are points where our vibration can actually change permanently
if we do certain things like reach a certain health
state in our physical body. And reach a certain state. Mentally,

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we can change and move up these chakras. And here's
where it gets wild when you learn that Anki genetically
designed us, especially you learn through like the animal tablets,
when thought talks about how we are like these light
beings with the amnesia that don't understand who we really are.
It really starts to make sense when you go over
this what we're talking about right now with this visible

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elite spectrum, because seven colors of visible eye spectrum each
with an increasing vibration, we have seven chakras in our
body exactly matching the seven colors of the visible life
spectrum in terms of vibration. And what that means is
your root chakra, your lowest possible state that you can
exist in. It's called your root chakra. It's your red chakra.

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That's that's that's where people are kept if they're in
a state of fear and you know, war about being uneasy,
about if you're in a very if you're in a
somewhat of a very anxious and very fearsome state, that's
that's where you're going to be kept. And that's the
lowest vibration we can exist in. Okay, and As you

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move up to higher and higher up your chakras, your
vibration increases and you simply become more and more aware.
That's that's about all it comes down to. We are
literally designed around the vibration of the of of the
visible light spectrum. That's that's that's what we're designed around.
That's why we really are like these light beings that

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have no one, that really have lost all this knowledge
of it because it's been systematically destroyed. And that's going
to be an interesting side we can get into too.

Speaker 2 (34:54):
That's amazing, that is awesome. Yes, thank you for that. Now,
speaking of these frequent.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
I know you were speaking of these inter dimensional entities
that are not necessarily looking out for us. You could
say they maybe seek to lower our body, our frequencies.
I mean, we might know them as arkans. Can you
talk a little bit about those?

Speaker 3 (35:20):
Absolutely, this is a fascinating area and the first place
to start would be for anyone that's listening to this
to go and look up what's called the nag Hamadi
scriptures and what that means is in during w w're
World War two or during that time period, there was
there was these these buried scriptures that were discovered in Egypt,

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and and inside them they found all of this very
very important information in these different chapters that have been recorded,
and one of the chapters is called the Hypothesis of
the Arkans. And right and right there, that's like a
really really scary title. Right, that's real and it actually

(36:05):
says that. And these are ancient, ancient writings that go
back thousands and thousands of years. And it's interesting because
Nagamadi means basically snake scriptures, snake writings. And when we
get back into the mentality and the sides of these
two competing families that we're going to talk about, you'll
see where the snake fits in and where the ego
fits in, and so in the Nagamadi Scriptures, and specifically

(36:30):
in the chapter the Hypothesis the Arkans, it talks all
about who the Arkans are. And if we can break
down the word arkon, it simply means ruler. And so
Hypothesis of the Arkans is talking about who are the
rulers of our world? And of course those things were
left out of the Bible, right while other things were

(36:51):
put in and rewritten. You have some of our most
ancient writings that clearly state who these beings are and
what their mentality and direction was. And what he talks
about is how long ago, you know, before we had
records that we have now, there were these rulers that

(37:12):
took control of Earth, rulers that took control of our
reality actually, and what that means is getting back to
the Sumerian king list, Like it said, the first sentence
it says before it talks about anything, is that kingship
was lowered from heaven. But what is kingship? It simply
means the framework for everything around you, from governing laws

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and how the mentality of the society is going to go.
It is the structure for reality itself. They they're the
ones who brought down this reality to Earth. That's why
the Sumerians say that agriculture and mathematics and language was
all given to them. All of it was given to
them because it was just brought to this world. And

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so who are these rulers, Well, the rulers of our
world in many cases, they're still controlling this world. They've
never left, or they've at least meant their governing has
never left. I do think that some of them are gone,
but I think it's hard for us to perceive. And

(38:19):
let me explain the reason behind that. We exist in
the third dimension primarily right now us talking and looking
at you. This is the third dimension. However, there are
dimensions both below us and dimensions above us. And how
it works is this, we can only see a small

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amount of what's actually in front of our eyes. We
can only see what's called the visible LFE spectrum, and
there's far more beyond the visible life spectrum. Like when
you and I were talking about before off the show,
these probes that were sent out to look for planets
and various things, they don't send something that can see
with the out of the visible life spectrum. They have

(39:02):
to go infrared because they're looking for completely different things
than we can see with our eyes. And that just
shows you that there's so much around us that we
just simply can't perceive. And that is how an advanced
civilization could completely control a lower civilization that they created,

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because they're simply in higher dimensions. It's they can play
God essentially, or God's we would call them. And so
that's how this whole thing has worked. These beings came
here long long ago, hundreds of thousands of years ago.
They came here because they were looking for essentially resources,

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and there's there's a whole story behind it. But we
are the product of them realizing that they could not
maintain the needs of what they what they wanted in
this planet if they didn't have someone to help them.
And so where we're an experiment that came out of
a need to have both labor and this this representative

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in the third dimension, we are and because they themselves
in most cases do not spend any time in the
third dimension. Is weird and wacky as that sounds, it's
difficult for us to understand what that means because largely
we only perceive the third dimension. If you go into
deep meditative state, you can ascend to the fourth and

(40:31):
fifth dimension, but only for a very temporary period of time,
whereas they can actually exist there permanently and in some
cases above that. So it all comes down to an
awareness of everything that's around us. So what happens when
this third dimensional experimental being wakes up to realize that

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you could call it the farm around them, this control
that's been going on for thousands of thousands of years
in this competition for how human society would go that's
that's essentially when what's what it's gone down and we
can explain how that went to it at some point too.

Speaker 2 (41:11):
Yeah sounds great. Wow, that's that's really fascinating stuff.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
Now I want to get back to a little bit
of the ancient history as far as pyramids. Can you
talk about a little bit about the significance of the pyramids,
maybe a little bit about their purpose?

Speaker 3 (41:28):
Okay, And I didn't even actually answer your last question.
I just realized what I'm gonna get it entire right
into the pyramids. Basically, what you find when you look
at the Greek gods, the Roman gods, the Sumerian gods,
these Syrian gods of avalence, all all throughout history. They
all have different names, and it's and also the Mesopotamian

(41:50):
gods too, I mean, uh, the meso American gods as well.
They all have these different names, but they all have
the same mentality that carries over from them. And what
that means is you can trace the influence of these rulers,
these arkans, because that's all they are, They're just rulers.
You can trace these rulers all across history, through every

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civilization by their mentality and the easiest one to connect
to is is to look at the Greeks, because you
look at these polarizing figures of Beside and Zeus, and
you quickly learn when you start to connect all the
way back that Beside is simply this being Anky, and
Zeus is simply this being Enlil, and they're they're this

(42:34):
rival family that's been competing all along. Now they each
had sons and daughters that carried down this legacy, and
they would almost in every case. There was very few cases,
but this wasn't an example, but there was crossover of
like some a son of en Low would occasionally change
mindsets and want to be part of the other side

(42:54):
of higher consciousness. But in general this a son of
one of these beings essentially take on the mentality of
their father. So Mlil had sons like this son Neerta
and Enki had sons like especially this one name Namedshidah
thought thought was his Egyptian name. And they they had

(43:15):
this huge they this huge signature all across our planet
of which civilizations have been started by them and which
civilizations have either been destroyed or conquered. And so let's
connect it back to the Pyramids, because in if you
look into the Age of the Pyramids, we're told they're
about four five hundred years old and that they're they're

(43:39):
made to how is pharaohs? That's that's what everyone's told,
that's how that's what our schools are giving every every
kid when they go in, and then they have this
predetermined view of of of what history is. But it's
it's again like we were saying that being the show,
it's all lies and that can be really disturbing for
some people to understand. But just to research and you

(44:01):
look and you find out that there's never been a
pharaoh ever found in the Great Pyramids of Giza, especially
especially the Great Pyramid self and as, and so if
you say, well, there's no pharaohs found in it, then
why are we taught that? Well, because if people found
out that there were no pharaohs ever buried or ever
intentionally put in the pyramids, they would start asking questions like, well,

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what's their real purpose and why were they built? Because
right now we're told that the pharaohs were placed there
and that they built these enormous structures to honor them,
and that's completely wrong, and it's a very it's a
very interesting lie to give us a misdirected view of
what their purpose was. But if you look about three

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hundred about four hundred miles south of the Great Pyramid
of Giza is a place called the Valley of the Kings,
and this is where all of the kings of Egypt,
most of them, were all buried. They brought them down
and they buried them, and you can see right there automatically,
and there's no pyramids found there. These were a lot
of cases. These pharaohs and kings were buried deep underground

(45:04):
in these these chambers in various places, so they weren't
pyramids at all. That they were that they were buried in.
And so here you have these enormous pyramid structures all
over the world, and especially especially we'll focus in on
the ones in Giza, and they have all these strange
alignments and all these things to them. And then it

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has nothing to do with pharaohs. And this is where
it essentially gets down to. There are two important what
are called air shafts in the Great Pyramid of Giza,
and they're called the Queen and King's Chamber. And what
they mean that that means is we're told those were
simply created as as air vents for whoever was in there,

(45:45):
so they could breathe, except that they're exactly positioned in
such a precise way that they can They line up
to certain star constellations, but not now. They only line
up long ago, far before we were told that the
pyramids were built. Because there's this there's this thing that
our earth does called the procession of of of the

(46:06):
axis of the It changes its position over time based
on the stars and a very slight amount. And so
when you want to know what the night sky looked
like back during supposedly whenever these were built, you would
you would have to figure out where the stars were
positioned at that time. And with computers we can do
that today, and you can simply figure out that when

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the when the king, the king's chamber was aligned to
the constellation of Orion, and when the queen's chamber was
aligned to the cons too serious, when did that happen? Well,
it last happened ten thousand, five hundred years ago, which
is which matches exactly what both Thought says in the
Emerald Tablets as well as as well as Plato talking

(46:53):
about how Atlantis was destroyed nine thousand years before him,
and what is how does that correlate? Well thought and
the Emerald tablets, these these ancient writings, they go way back.
He wrote about how when Atlantis was destroyed, he traveled
to Egypt and he called it the land of Kem

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and that and he says, I built the Pyramids. And
if you start looking at ice core data and you
compare Plato's date of nine thousand years before that existed
before him, you you nail right on that ten thousand,
five hundred year date. Then you start to get a
little bit more of a correlation. You say, Okay, the
Pyramids are ten thousand, five hundred years old, and that
means that the Atlantean civilization preceded them, was before them,

(47:38):
and that the Sumerian civilizations we see in Mesopotamia they
actually came after. So there's this whole disconnect with this
this ancient ancient Egyptian civilization that was essentially changed over.
And we have the complete and incorrect dates for and

(47:59):
you see this connection that goes all the way back
to both Atlantis and all the way down to Mesopotamia
to sumer all these civilizations. What they were doing was
they were being controlled by certain gods, these on an Nochi,
and they called them they don't call themselves the Aonachy.
They call themselves Leanuna. And it says that specifically, and

(48:22):
like I was saying, George Smith translated the autre Hases
you know, in the late eighteen hundreds and right in
theontra hasis one of the most important texts we have.
I want everyone to read that. I just did a
video on it recently. They they talks right in there
all about the Onuna and the on Anchi and about
how they genetically manipulated us. It has the entire story,
and it even has the deluge story and talking about

(48:43):
these disasters that occurred that wiped out a lot of
these civilizations. And that's why we see the pyramids having
this much older day than we're giving, as well as
a place like go Beckley Teppe up in Turkey, which
is this emerging site that has been radiocarbon dated to
like eleven thousand years old and which completely throws off

(49:06):
this model we're given for when human civilization is developed
and what our timeline has been. Because the amazing thing
right now about this is if you look at what
our books say about eleven thousand years ago? What was
what were civilizations doing? All of the critics and the
mainstream scientists and they say, we were nomadic and we

(49:30):
were traveling around in groups and hunting, except that here
you have Glbeci Teppi, that is this ancient monolithic structure
that has connections to the stars, very similar to Stonehenge,
actually has connections all through the constellations. In this advanced
knowledge of all of these things, why would a nomadic

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hunter gatherer society stop and build one of the most
fantastic structures we've ever we could have ever uncovered with
knowledge that's beyond what we even thought possible, and then
deliberately bury it so that that's what they found. There
was literally piles and mounds of dirt that had been

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and they can actually determine in such a way if
if something fills in naturally or if it's actually put
in by by by by people doing it, and they
determined that Quebecci Teppy was one of these sites that
was deliberately buried. What did they know, right, How did
this advanced civil civilization know that a lot of these
sites were either a going to be possible, going to

(50:34):
be disrupted from whatever Earth changes are occurring. But also
more importantly, they knew that there was with whoever was
given the information, which I think it was probably part
of thought, but they knew that this information right now
that we're talking about and these ancient sites would be
deliberately destroyed and also suppressed and hidden. So some of

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these places, like like I said, the Nagamadi Scriptures was
found buried too, and the and the Guebecy Teppy was
found buried. All these these things were buried and sealed
off because I think they understood that based on whoever
was in charge, that there would be this thousands of
year period of when war empires would try to conquer

(51:19):
and destroy all of these things. We will never know
how many of these ancient sites were completely destroyed and
eradicated before we ever the history books and information was
ever able to find them. All we have left from
what I've gathered, are just scraps and pieces of what
actually used to exist.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
Wow, thank you for them.

Speaker 1 (51:39):
That's awesome information. I appreciate that, Thank you very much. Now,
moving even further back, you mentioned Atlantis.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Now, would you say this is our first civilization?

Speaker 3 (51:53):
It actually looks like places like Atlantis and Lemuria, where
the first advanced civilizations we probably have at least at
least that we we have any information about. And basically
what I've what I've uncovered is that Lamuria was a
subcontent that used to exist like Atlantis and Lemuria, existed

(52:15):
somewhere in the Pacific Ocean, probably near where a lot
of the the Pacific Islands are up through the Hawaiian area.
And the reason why nothing is either nothing's there now
or everything's moved around is that there have been really
really cataclysmic cataclismic earth changes that have occurred in such
a way where entire land masses have either disappeared and

(52:38):
become submerged, or some places have moved some some masses
have moved because of you know, the plates of the
Earth and various changes that have occurred. So when you
when you look into like like Plato talks about in
the Timmis and Critias, when he talks about Atlantis being
destroyed nine thousand years before him, he he talks about

(52:59):
how the destruction was so extensive that there was nothing
left and to fill in more pieces than a lot
of other people that have talked about it. But I
think the Emerald Tablets is probably the best source information
about Atlantis, and Thought really really just has pages where
he talks about how Atlantis existed. Is this subcontinent west

(53:22):
of the Pillars of Hercules, and we know that as
the Straits of Gibraltar, So it was somewhere in the
Atlantic Ocean. You know, Atlantis derives from Atlantic, just like Atlas.
The Atlas Mountains in Morocco derived from this great king
of Atlantis that used to be there. All these names

(53:42):
all come from this original place. And at the end
of Atlantis when it was being before it was destroyed,
there was actually a war that occurred there. And a
lot of people are going to know exactly what that
is when I mentioned it. It was the war of
the Titans and the Olympians. And that's because this this
big what's it's it's just a myth right now in

(54:03):
our society except for you. You find out who these
these competing sides were. The Titans was essentially Poseidon and
Thought and the side of call it the higher and
higher knowledge side, and then the Olympians were This was
this war side of the Eagle under under Zeus and Inerta,

(54:24):
which his name and Inerta's name in uh In to
the Greeks was Apollo. So you had these these two
sides that have been competing for all throughout human civilizations
from you know, the Romans and the Greeks and all
across our our society, they've been competing for how our
civilizations would go. Now en Lol, this this brother, he

(54:48):
always had this symbol of the eagle or in some
cases also the bull, but the eagle was his primary symbol,
either the double headed eagle or the single headed eagle,
and that was his his symbolic representation of his mindset
and his side of the family. And on the other
side you had Poseidon Enke, which his side was the

(55:10):
serpent and the dragon, and that has you can find
traces of that all across the world. With these with
these two sides that have been competing all along, and
so Atlantis, we had this emerging advanced civilization, not like
we think of with flying cars, but with understanding like
what the what the pyramids are found all of the

(55:32):
earth on these lay lines, these energy centers. Nick Letessa
talked all about this this energy that can be tapped into,
this free energy that exists around the Earth that we
we wouldn't have to be worrying about polluting and ruining
our world with fossil fuels if we even understood that
this was possible, and of course they do, but there's
no money to be made in that, just like our

(55:53):
entire medical industry is based on artificial compounds. That's because
it's it's the only the primary purpose is again making money.
And when something is based on money, finding cures and
finding things that our solutions are not part of the
are not part of what they find, because what we
what were the point? So getting back to Atlantis, there

(56:13):
was what was called dark magic that was actually being
practiced there by a lot of the people Atlantis. Okay,
because these two competing sides that wanted the Atlantan civilization
to go and these these these dark dark sides and
the Emerald tablets. It talks about how they actually contacted

(56:36):
and brought in what are called lower dimensional beings and
and they actually it's entirely possible that some of those
beings that had been brought in through through these these
very satanistic like we see today, these very satanistic blood
blood sacrifice rituals, they are responsible from, Like why why

(56:58):
do you think people do them. It's because they are
the way to connect to this entire other side. Instead
of connecting to higher dimensional beings, that's the way you
connect to lower dimensional beings, and that forms a framework
what a lot of the ancient cultures consider this battle
of light and dark. And the problem is a lot

(57:18):
of those beings, these Aonachi, some of them became very corrupted,
and I actually think that a lot of these lower
dimensional beings may have actually even took them on as
almost parasitic to even control their mindset. So who was
using who in the end is only a matter of perspective,

(57:39):
because I see very disastrous things like like thought talks
about thermal tablets that occurred in Atlantis where a lot
of this dark magic was being performed, and what happened
was Earth changes ended up coinciding with this, and some
writings even talk about how they may have Enki and

(58:00):
others may have actually deliberately had Atlantis be destroyed because
it became this location of extremely unstable use of energy
and dark and dark magic, and a lot of people
people don't even think that magic is real, except that
during this huge time of our history, anyone who is

(58:21):
considered a witch or a sorcerer or whatever it was
was being gathered up and burned at the stake. You
think all those people were faking it or just people
that thought differently. There was this long lost thing called
the old religion that used to exist, that was part
of Enochian magic and all these things that were around
long ago. There used to be all these things and

(58:43):
they've been lost. It almost doesn't even exist anymore. And
so when Atlantis was destroyed, the people of Atlantis that
were part of this higher mindset, they all traveled to
these certain locations on the planet.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Like.

Speaker 3 (59:00):
The Basque region of Spain and France, France and down
through Morocco and then over in Egypt, and these became
some most conscious locations on our planet. And they and
so if you were, you know, if you're listening to
this and you happen to be from the Basque region
or Morocco or whatever it is, you have lineage that
may tie directly to this. This ancient Atlantean lineage that

(59:22):
goes that goes long, goes far back to this time
when when they essentially escaped their their their their continent
that was that was sinking into the ocean, awesome, great stuff.

Speaker 2 (59:34):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
Now, earlier you were talking about consciousness and how it
has been suppressed over the years through whether it be
what we've learned in our history.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Or different types of methods.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
Uh, can you talk a little bit about that and
how maybe we can tap into some of that consciousness
that we've lost.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
So when you look into we just celebrated Saint Patrick's Day, Okay,
this is a great thing to bring up, and people
are gonna be like, what is it to do the consciousness? Well,
Saint Patrick's Day, we're told, is being celebrated because Saint
Patrick ridded all the snakes from Ireland. And then you know,

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there's this whole aspect of Irish pride that's that's present there,
and people drank and they wear green and all these things,
and it's a complete joke because Saint Patrick's Day, in
my mind, is the most sinister of all the holidays
that we celebrate. And again, what does that consciousness? Well,
Saint Patrick was he was being pushed by the church

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or he had been tasked by the church to rid
the snakes schrom Ireland. And a lot of people see
that and they're like, that makes sense. There was a
bunch of really dangerous, poisonous snakes in Ireland and they're
gonna attack everybody. But if you just do a little research,
you'll find out that there were no snakes in Ireland
that ever that have ever been there. It's way too
far north. They can't survive there. So if it's not snakes,

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then what is it. Well, there's this whole side of
understanding both ancient uniform writings all the way up to
Holidays that has to do with this menim menim metamphorical
symbolic aspect of how they reference things and what that
means the snakes, Like we're gonna get back to snakes,
goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden
story on how there's this divide between the evil snake

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that gave that gave the knowledge of good and evil
consciousness to Adam and Eve, which is very a very
real story. Adam's name was a dam Mu. This this
talks about the early creation story of this genetic manipulation
of the early hominive and how Enki the snake had
given a dam U that's the knowledge of good and
evil consciousness, and how you know this god figure was

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trying to be the good guy and we should know
about that, and he's protecting us where it's actually a
control thing where they wanted that side, which is end Lo.
By the way, jehovah Yah wanted to keep us in
this lower conscious mentality because it was a much easier
way to maintain, to control this the essentially the workers

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of Earth or the you know, the lower the lower
people or whatever he called us beasts actually because he
knew end Low was part of this entire process. If
you're read the audre Hasins talk extensively about this where
they needed to take this helmet in and change them
over to give them the gifts that they have. But

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Enke ended up giving him giving us too many gifts
and we became too conscious and gave us all the
gift of language. And this whole story has to do
with this anger by end Lil that he didn't want
us to ever have higher consciousness. He didn't want us
to ever have language and understand anything around us, because
it's so problematic if that happens, because then you can

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have your labor force and your domain. You know, these
can wake up and realize what they're part of, and
so getting all the way back, the snake in the
dragon have always represented anky side and knowledge always. That's
why the ancient Chinese and these Asian cultures in India
still represent a worship the snake as part of this

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higher conscious side. But I've got to point out before
we go into the other conscious side, is that in
meso America, the Aztecs and the Mayans were not corrupted
by blood sacrifice because of the snake. This is one
of the biggest misconceptions that makes it so that the
snake is considered the polarized evil figure when like when

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you actually look at the information, Like I was just
in teaching Itza last year, and I was looking for
evidence of this battle of the Eagle and the Serpent,
because it's all over the world on flags and crests
and ancient writings and in rock carvings, and it's all
over the world, and this struggle where the eagle essentially
won and destroy the serpent all of earth the people

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that had this serpent knowledge. And so what I found
in chiachin Itzza that was absolutely fascinating was over near
the temple of the Jaguar. And again I'm sure experts
that are all you know, controlled by the the elites
that can't talk about this stuff. I'm sure they know
about all this stuff already. But people like me that
have no nothing hitched and nothing attached to me, I

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can say what I want. So when I'm down there
was I was looking for evidence of this because I
know that chichen Itza was this really good example of
the Mayan civilization that eventually became corrupted by war and
blood sacrifice, And so is there a record of that?
Because they kept track of everything in their stories. That's
the whole point of these murals, and these they told

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the story. So I'm looking around in the temple of
the Jaguar, and I have pictures of this on a
lot of my some of the videos I have, and
some various things I've done. Where I found near the
temple of the Jaguar. It shows cuckoo con which was
thought the snake. It shows his symbols all the place,
you know, and how he brought the Miyans to higher

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consciousness and all these things. And then there's this other
figure that I don't think anyone has ever seen. There's
an eagle also, and this eagle is present and it's
eating a pine cone with the snakes with the snakes
all surrounding it. And if you look into what a
pine cone represented, even into these on an achy, you
can see so many representations of where they're holding a

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pine cone and and they're passing it to mankind or whatever.
And what that means is the pine cone represented knowledge
or imparting knowledge into another society. Essentially, that's what it
came down to. And here you have in teaching Itza,
you have this story about how the mines used to
be perfectly connected to the stars and understanding all of

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these things around them, and then all of a sudden
it became warlike and they started doing this all these
blood sacrifices, just like the Aztecs, and what lo and
behold for you have this, you have this story that's
being told in Rock. It's saying that here we had
coogle Kan thought give them lightning and then move on,
because where did he go? Well, he had to establish

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the Mayans, right, and then where did he go? He
went down the Aztec and then and then he went
all the way down Well, well, it's a lot of
questions about when the when the Anka was actually founded,
but he essentially was part of founding all of those
cultures or parts of people that were associated with him.
And so when he left the Mayans and he had
to travel to the Aztec to then set up their

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their societies, he left and he was gone, and the
Mayans became desperate and they had they had another god
who pretended to play as google Kan who came over
and that was part of this Eagle side, and it
was either Inerta or someone associated with the Ammal side,

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and they corrupted every the Mayans and the Aztec to
believe that if they wanted to bring their gods back,
they could, they could sacrifice their blood and they would
bring these odds back that have given them knowledge. But
it was it was a complete trick because it actually
number one, it brought in these lower dimensional beings, remember

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like we said, through these practices, and it corrupted the
entire culture and it just it led to besides when
they were when they were then like the Aztecs were
then conquered by Cortes. But if these things had never occurred,
with this, with going in and then and completely corrupting
the civilization, they they would never have had the downfall

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like they had. So what does that mean. It means
that there's been this ancient war, and this is one
of the things that I'm writing about extensively my next book.
I called my next book the Stage of Time, because
the Earth is part of this stage of both the
higher and lower dimensions on how things are going to
play out in this physical reality. And so there's been
this struggle of both these two sides of this ancient

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family about how civilizations will go right, either this higher
conscious mentality side that connects back to the stars, or
a war a war mentality. So let's go all the
way back to where we started. I didn't forget back
to Saint Patrick's day. Saint Patrick was ridding all the
snakes from Ireland. And why that's such a sad thing

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is that if you actually look into who the snakes were,
they were simply druids and pagans. And that meant any
any of these old religions, like we talked about before,
it became part of the control mechanism where they were
in tune with just like the Mayans were tune with
the stars and in tune with harmony of the earth.

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And understanding this entire other aspect of our consciousness, this
higher aspect of our consciousness, okay, and they were essentially
eradicated all over Earth. But a lot of these crusades
were both part of finding ancient relics and cleansing in
the land of these leftover people that could connect all

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the way back to this ancient snake knowledge. So the
druids were the ones who were part of the ancient Druids,
the ones who build Stonehenge. And the reason why that's
such a sad thing about Saint Patrick's day is that Ireland,
in Scotland and Wales, that whole area was the last
refuge on the entire planet of these druids that connected

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all the way back and they were that that holiday
represents their eradication on Earth, and that they were completely eradicated.
We don't even know how many were actually killed. I've
heard numbers in the thousands, and I've heard hundreds. I
don't know. We don't know exactly how many were killed.
Some fled and then others were just simply killed. But
that's what Saint Patrick's was that was tasked with, and

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when he did that, it allowed the complete control of
essentially the whole planet. By this these these these empires
of the Church, and you only had these small segments
that survived, like Buddhism and Hinduism in places that had
gone that had still had these ancient roots back to
the snake. And that's why they're the only religious cultures

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or some of the only religious cultures we see on
earth that have to do with a higher consciousness rather
than this this given version of reality and what we
should believe and what we should think and that we
see now that was and that's how we've had this real,
very sinister, systematic control of how consciousness will be viewed.

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And it hasn't really changed. It's been going on for
a long, long long time. It's just that it became
such a way where we literally lost all knowledge of
these things. You've talked to most people and they have
no idea the truth of Saint Patrick. They don't know
anything about the age of the Pyramids. It's because these

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things have been very carefully suppressed so that we don't
find out the truth. And for people like you and
I who are like stumming upon this, we're really dangerous
because we're you know, we're disrupting this whole model of reality.
So what they do is they keep all of these distractions,
these illusions. That's why they call my last book the
Illusion of Us. They keep all these illusions and distractions

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going so that people either a never have time because
they're just working all the time, or B they're spending
their free time just entertaining themselves and they're not spending
their time looking into all these things, because really, how
does someone know they don't know something? If they don't
know it, that's a really difficult place to figure out.
Someone can't be like i might be missing a ton

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of ancient history, but I'm just going to choose to
ignore it. There are people that are like that, but
most people when they're coming across this information, because all
of it's lumped in this giant category called conspiracy. Anything
that falls into a conspiracy doesn't matter if it's you know, geoengineering, chemtrails,
or all the way to ancient history. They're all part

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of these ways where we're being misled about the truth,
and those are all conspiracies. Isn't it amazing that something
like the JFK assassination is almost like believed and understood
now that something the government was involved with. You look
at all the papers that just got released, and they

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were like, we're going to release all the JFK papers. Actually,
we're going to keep like fifty of them and then
we might release them. Actually we're not going to, right
the why wouldn't you release something like that unless it
had information that would make you the story look different?
And how that went as assimply, the CIA was extremely
worried that the JFK was going to take down the

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banking system, and the CIA and the wars that were
going on they had they had to take them out.
And so the point I'm trying to make is most
people acknowledged that the government had a hand in that
in his death, and yet and that's a conspiracy, and
yet any other spiracies that come down the line are
immediately rejected because we have this very delicate, subconscious view

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of hold of reality. If you were to wake up
in the morning and you like like wake up in
the morning and you say to yourself, Okay, I'm I'm
gonna go to work and I'm gonna come home and
watch a movie, and I you know, I think I
feel like I know like the way things work because
I went to college and I understand all these things.
You're going to feel this sense of calm because you

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feel like you understand reality right. Anyone who is intelligent
is going to need this sense of understanding things around
them now. And the reason why that's important is because
whenever you bring conflicting information to someone, something that comes
along that completely disrupts that entire view of reality. It's
so difficult to incorporate it because of how many people

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are telling us this is the way it is, that
they'll reject it. And that's based on the fact that
any of these things that go into that category, if
they make a lot of people feel that way without
the right information at the right time, they'll reject it instantly,
reject it because it's a very very difficult thing to
say to yourself, I've been lied to and I need

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to try to figure out what actually is true, like
because like you know, so much of the so many
of these things are not happy. They're pretty dark the
ways that they've done this and the way and the
means that they've done throughout history, and a lot of
people it's very difficult to to even look into this
stuff because it's it's really hard to wrap our heads around.

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Why would all meet in a place like Bohemian Grove
in California, and do these satanistic every year presidents in
and business leaders from all over the world that are
part of this tight knit group of what's called the Illuminati.
They all and of course we've been made to believe
as a joke. And yet all these leaders every year,

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and the atomic bomb was first, you know, sign over,
and and the plans were first like looked at and
Bohemian Groves. There's all these this strange place in California
where leaders all of the world had these mock sacrifice
rituals to this giant owl owl called Moloch Okay, And
that's right there in the open. If you want to

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go looking online, just do a little search for and
actually look at this place exists and that every president
from you know, Bush, I don't I don't even know
if if Obama went there, but almost every president has
gone there, and they're actually I think Reagan actually wrote
no is Nixon. Nixon actually was the only president that
for some reason I couldn't keep his mouth shut about

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that place. And he made a comment about how they're
they're so wacky and like perverted. This very interesting. Look
up the quote that Nixon said about Bohemian Grove. But anyway,
that's a conspiracy, and that's a really dark, strange area.
How do you explain leaders from all the world taking
park taking part in mock sacrifice in front of a

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giant fire with this huge owl of the back. How
do you try to take the version that we've been
given and try to make that make sense? You know
what I mean? So to get to make a long
story short on consciousness, we are incredible beings that have
this potential to reach extremely high levels of consciousness. And
if we just believe in ourselves and objectively seek the

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ways to do that by becoming healthy or with our
bodies and not allowing all these terrible talks and things
that were pushed on us to happen, and then changing
our mindset, you know, spending time outdoors and reading about
objective things in ancient history and start to put the
pieces together and what's actually happened. Our ascension of our
consciousness can occur quite rapidly, actually, because I feel like

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we've been held back for so long that I think
our bodies and minds are waiting for us to just
catch up.

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
Definitely, and would you say, yeah, any.

Speaker 2 (01:16:55):
Type of meditation would help with that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
Absolutely, our mind is so cluttered in so much stuff
that we need to quiet it to them begin to
start anew. We can't just sit down with all the
things that are going through our brain and be able
to put all these things together in a way that
makes sense until we can take our brain and just
calm it down a little bit, calm ourselves. See, putting

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yourself in that state makes us so that you essentially
separate yourself from your physical body. That's the entire purpose
of meditating. You're taking yourself out of this reality of
this physical world with all the things that are bombarding us,
and you completely put yourself in a state where you
exist as just your higher consciousness. That's why meditation is

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literally going into a higher dimension. That's what you're doing.
You are mastering the ability for yourself to reach a
higher state and from whether it's meditation or psychedelics or
whatever it is, or spending time in the outdoors, whatever
it is that people need to do to free their mind,
every individual is different.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Thank you, Den, this is awesome information.

Speaker 4 (01:18:07):
I really appreciate this.

Speaker 1 (01:18:08):
Now let's give in to something something I find really
fascinating as well.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
Niburu.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
The whole planet X is it the home of the Ananaki,
and is it really is it really come around this
certain amount of time either thirty six hundred yeah, thirty
six thousand.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Years or thirty six hundred years.

Speaker 1 (01:18:32):
Or whenever it comes, tell us a little bit about
what you know about that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:37):
Okay, this is a really polarizing topic too. It's pretty
much up there with the genetic manipulation. I think all
the ancient texts, all the ancient cuniform writings, remember kingship
lowered from Heaven? Well, what is heaven? It's just anything
beyond Earth. That's it. That's as simple as it gets
anywhere in the Bible. That's referencing heaven. And these angels,

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their demons. They're just talking about this, these these beings,
every single our changel an angel. They're just referencing whatever
these certain autonochy beings are and whatever their mentality was.
And so what they all say is they talk about
how they came from somewhere else and they came here

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specifically because their their world, their planet, was being disrupted.
Now why is it being disrupted? Well, if you read
back and you and there's a lot of tuneful writings,
some that aren't even named I mean, there's there's I
think more than fifty percent of all remember this, more
than fifty percent of all cuneiform writings we've we've ever

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uncovered are still untranslated. Isn't that scary to think about?
Like you would you should think to yourself if you
were an objective scientist, that this is the most important
writings we have, because they represent the beginning point, the
very first stage when we were given this information. Because
as you know, if you play telephone with a bunch

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of kids and you tell someone something and then it
goes all the way around that group. By the time
it gets back, it's it's something completely different than when
it started. But what about the person that was told
to That person still has the original message, right, That's
how these cuneiform writings work. They are our earliest records
before anything was polluted and and oh yeah, so they

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go back to talking about, you know where these beings
came from? This nabiru and it's spelled differently in a
lot of different places. It's not always n I B
I r U. There's there's certain different ways that they
that they spell it, but it all comes down and
it's also called marduk too. There's a tablet called the
numa Elish. It's very important because it talks about the

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early creation story of both us along like the autre
Hasis talks about, but it also talks about the creation
story of what occurred in our solar system literally billions
of years ago. And what these what these on and
Akis say, of course, how would they know, right well,
these these beings, according to a lot of the information

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that I've come across, they're not even they're potentially not
even from our universe. Try to wrap your head around
that they these beings are Some of these beings are
millions of years old, and of course, with our lifespans
capped at one hundred and twenty years older, so we
can't even wrap our heads around how a being could

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be around that long except for the fact that we
see so many examples in movies and things where there's
this something's done, where consciousness is transferred over to another person. Right,
Stargate did that really really well, And actually I think
starget has a lot of truth in it. And essentially
what they talked about, how long ago these this these

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advanced beings from wherever they came from, became trapped in
our solar system and in our universe. Like I said,
our our universe is actually a multiverse, and it represents
slices of different versions. And these beings came from somewhere else, okay,
and specifically whatever the means that occurred long ago, whether

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it was weapons it's some kind of advanced war, or
them manipulating and trying to play around with the the
rotations of their planets, because these beings had technology we
can't even fathom. Okay, whatever occurred their solar system, there
are many, There are many there that became our binary.
It became trapped in our solar system because their sun

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is a dwarf son. It's what that means is this there?
And that makes sense if you start to think about it, right,
A sun only takes on that that white dwarf or
dwarf signature when it starts to burn out. As a
sun becomes really old a star, they will essentially start
burning out the fusion that the energy they have. Eventually

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they'll slowly start to burn out and they'll they'll shrink
and get smaller and smaller. And so what that tells
you is that our binary, yes it's a binary, is
part of two different, completely different aged solar systems that
became entrapped in each other, okay, through very subtle means
of gravity, because of how big our sun is, so

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billions of years ago. In the Anuma Elish, it talks
about how these Autonachi character these anarchy gods. They named
themselves after the planets of both our Solar system as
well as their planet. And they didn't call in the numlaction,
they didn't call it in the bureau. They called it
Marduk because Marduk was determined to be the head of
the gods at the time, and he was the firstborn

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son of Enki, and so Marduk became this great hero.
Now what did that mean? Well, think about long ago,
if this had actually occurred, which it really looks like
it did. It becomes trapped in our Solar system, and
the first whatever several passes that had occurred, essentially this
planet on this giant elliptical orbit, because it doesn't belong

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here again, would come swinging through a certain part of
our Solar system, somewhere between Mars and Jupiter, and it
essentially crashed into or one of its satellites, which means
a moon crashed into the planet that used to be there,
called Tiamat okay, and that was the proto Earth Earth
before it became what it is now. And one of

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the reasons why Earth has so much water is that
when Tiamat was destroyed. This is what it says, right
according to the new mit lish, it talks all about this.
I encourage everyone to read it. It says essentially that
much of the planet was broken apart, and that these
enormous holes were then filled in with water over time,
because Tiamat was a much larger planet than than Earth was,

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and the remnants of Tiamat became our asteroid field. And
so some people like I don't believe that. Well, go
look at a model of our solar system today and
you'll see that between Jupiter and Mars you have this
giant asteroid belt where to come from. While the elish
clearly states that it was from this ancient collision long ago,

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that that left this this state of our of our
world away it is today, and and that it caused
great destruction in our solar system. And so this planet
and these and these beings, because of that giant elliptical orbit,
they their planet, their atmosphere became started to get destroyed

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and they had to come here because of the because
of gold, and that's it seems silly, except for the fact,
if you look at it today, gold is the most
important resource pretty much on planet. And the really interesting
thing that you want to get down the rabbit hole
is that a family like the Rothschilds, who essentially controls
the entire all the elites. They're like the puppets, I

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guess you could call it of the of these these
war On and Hockey here they're the representatives. They still
determine the daily price of gold, and they have gold
mines all over the planet. Because gold has these properties
has nothing to do with being pretty or rare. It
has these very important properties because of what the element is.

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Where the reason why astronauts wear it on their visory
why is it's all over computer technology and all these things.
Is that it has the highest reflectivity of incoming radiation
solar radiation, of any element that exists. So that means
that if you were if you needed a way to
reflect solar radiation back, you would you would you could

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essentially use that, or it has all these other moleuccier
molucier things too, like it may be responsible for actually
extending life a life form. And when you find these
ancient tombs in Egypt where they have like boxes underneath
where the pharaohs were buried with what's called monoatomic gold,
gold down into its like a powder form. Why would

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they have that unless it was one of these very
sacred things that only these high up kings and various
individuals knew. And so there's these various reasons why they
came here, but it essentially it comes down to the
fact that this planet has an enormous elliptical orbit, and
these beings come back every time there's a pass that

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goes near Earth. They come back to gather all of
the resources that have been accumulated during that you know,
several thousand year period of us of us getting it
because what happens we are part of these We buy
gold and jewelry and then we die because we have
short life spans, and it always finds its way back

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somewhere and it's melted down.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:28:04):
Gold never disappears. It's eternal.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
So all these.

Speaker 3 (01:28:06):
Things like pawn shops everywhere where does all that stuff go?
Does anyone ever think about the fact that there's pawn
shops on like every corner, and they're all buying gold
and silver that's being then sold back to the government
whatever it is. But where is all that going into
these vaults of bullion and all these things that are
actually being considered our currency. So it's a really fascinating

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element aspect if you learn about gold and the properties
of why that's so important and today and so again
this does this planet exist? Well, let's get into it.
In the nineteen eighties, they NASA and other scientists have
determined that there was a planet that has to exist

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somewhere far beyond Pluto, because the evidence for what it's
doing spoke louder than any writings or anything that could
tell that exists. As in there our two uttermost planets,
Uranus and Neptune, scientists found, and actually our entire Solar system,
but especially those two utter planets had this very slight

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tilt to both of their orbits of their planets, this
gravitational tilt on an axis, and they were Uranus and
Neptune were both like that. And the only way that's
possible if you get a tilt is if you get
something that's influencing it, some kind of gravitational influence from
far away, and that was the proof behind them saying

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planet ten or planet X exists, if anyone remembers. In
the eighties and into the early nineties, there was article
after article where they were talking about how it was
going to be found any day, and they were just
waiting on all these things. So what they did essentially
is they sent out infrared probes to go find it

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in the eighties, and in nineteen eighty three they found it. Okay,
they found the key signature for it, and they also
found this small binary sun that was also with it.
And the proof behind it was there was an encyclopedia
that was essentially printed this entire page that described it,

(01:30:19):
and that encyclopedia, and I really want everyone to look
at at what I'm talking about right now, but that
encyclopedia was printed in nineteen eighty seven, and the reason
it was allowed to come out was that there was
this general acceptance by the majority of NASA and others
that they were going to release this information, except there

(01:30:39):
was a decision then made to not release it, whether
or not it's because you know, it connects back to
the anarchy or whatever it is, Earth changes and freaking
people out the number of reasons why they did that,
but it was decided to not tell anyone and just
bury the whole thing. And it all starts with the
head of the naval observatory named Robert Harrington. He's the

(01:31:01):
head of the entire naval observatory, remember that, not just
some low life guy with a with a with a telescope.
He's the head of the entire naval observatory, and he's
tasked with being part of finding this planet. Okay, And
when they got those those findings back from this Iris telescope,
he went to the southernmost point of our hemisphere of

(01:31:23):
our Earth to see it. And why can't anyone see it? Well, this,
this planet exists only an extreme southern elliptical, the elliptical
of our planet. You cannot. If you think of space
as being three D, it's not a two D thing.
There's you know, there's space above us, to left, to
the right, behind us, underneath us. It's it's it's a

(01:31:44):
three D thing. So something is coming from underneath you.
You can't see it because your entire planet is facing
the wrong way. That's what they determined is happening with
this planet. Is this coming from ours called our southern ecliptic.
So he went to the to the edge of Birch
Point Point in New Zealand, and he had a telescope
and he found it because he knew exactly where to

(01:32:06):
look based on the observations that were coming from this
IRIS probe. And so, just like the movie The Deep Impact,
he rushes back, right, he rushes back to get all
this information out, and before he can publish it, because
it takes a long time to get these findings and
publish it. As he's in the process of publishing it,
he just mysteriously dies of throw cancer. Right boom, He's dead,

(01:32:28):
and all his work is then debunked as mathematical error
because of uranus neptune being tilted, and the entire thing
disappears and like and everybody ignores and forgets it ever
existed except before they were going to do that. In
nineteen eighty seven, the New Illustrated Science and Invention Encyclopedia,

(01:32:49):
Volume eighteen came out. It's like someone didn't get the
memo right because they thought it was gonna be released,
And on page twenty four hundred and eighty eight it
states Pioneer ten became the first craft one of these
Irish probes to pass into intercellar space in nineteen eighty three.
It says, the diagram shows the path of the two
Pioneer probes. Now, Chris, can I share an image of

(01:33:11):
this really quick?

Speaker 4 (01:33:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:33:12):
Of course, So I'm gonna share an image of what
this Pioneer probe found because it's absolutely fascinating. Okay, okay,
tell me when you can see that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:29):
Yep, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:33:30):
So this is the actual page from the nineteen eighty
seven encyclopedia before they decided to cover this whole thing up,
and what it shows is absolutely fascinating because it shows
two It shows two Pioneer probes on the left side
being sent out, Pioneer eleven and Pioneer ten, and Pioneer
eleven went the wrong way and it didn't find anything,

(01:33:51):
but Pioneer ten did. And it shows very clearly that
according to their calculations from these probes, which are very accurate,
they discovered a tenth planet at four point seven billion
miles from Earth. Just think about how far that is.
That's why this thing is. It's so far out, but

(01:34:12):
yet it still can have an impact because gravity can
travel immense distances. The larger the masses, the more can
affect other smaller masses around it. Now, the other thing
that it found is absolutely amazing because there's not a
lot of information that talks about are a binary star.
If you do any research into solar systems, you find
out that around eighty percent of all solar systems are binary,

(01:34:33):
meaning they have two sons. So it's extremely common. And here,
just like you know commonality, we find that the Pioneer
ten not only did they find a tenth planet at
four point seven billion miles out, but they found a
dead star. And what is a dead star. It's just
a dwarf star. It's an old star. And if you
think about how this solar system it's talked about how

(01:34:56):
in these ancient writings that it came long ago, it
became trapped different age, it would make total sense that
this that would report to being this dead star, a
much older star, and it's it's found at fifty billion
miles away. So look at where the tenth planet is
and look at where the star is. You see this
dance of this old dwarf star in our in our

(01:35:19):
sun that had this enormous orbit. I think I've seen
some calculations that this star could could be so far
out that it doesn't even pass even somewhat nearby for
something like you know, well over like fifty thousand years
or something. It's just got this enormous elliptical orbit. And
so that's why this planet, every time it swings through,

(01:35:42):
causes these potential impacts on us. So in the end,
there's a lot that we're being that's being hidden from us,
a lot that exists out there. And it all comes
down to what we're willing to spend our time doing
to investigate to find truth, versus what we just decide
to believe. Because when you do go down this road,

(01:36:07):
it's always a higher conscious road and you and you
it fundamentally changes your life. It's it's what's called being
becoming awake. And I can tell you that I try
to never push this information on people that aren't ready.
For anyone that wants to try to run down the
streets and yell this information if they don't, if they
hadn't heard it yet. It's it all has to do

(01:36:27):
with each person is ready for information at a different time,
and every individual is going through a different path and
in a different stage along that path, and but like
the Mayan said, we have reached what's called universal consciousness,
where people have reached a conscious level where they're ready
and it's the truth is starting to boil over and
it's starting to it's starting to really make in roads.

(01:36:50):
If if things like YouTube and Facebook and the Internet
and all these these means, if they don't become completely
control and have the information like the road, the very
scary road are going on right now where freedom of
speech and having this open objective information is there's a

(01:37:11):
serious attempt right now to have that be stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
Yeah, I can tell I can see the major censorship
going on. I feel that myself now going back to
some of these controllers and you know, we're basically you
could say they're slaves and these modern day secret societies.
Would you say the elites some of their bloodlines tied

(01:37:35):
back to these ancient beings.

Speaker 3 (01:37:38):
That's right. It's one of the most telling areas to
look at right now. What's going on. We have this
world where most of it has become more modernized out
of kingdoms, where now we have this democracy platform and
these various other platforms that are similar to it. But
at the same time there's this really bizarre thing where

(01:37:58):
in the United Kingdom we still have this like monarchy
with kings and queens, Right, isn't it so strange this
all this you know, ridiculous distraction stuff talking about this
big wedding coming up, and how Megan is not part
of these blood these royal blood lions and the queen
and all these these others that are really upset because

(01:38:20):
it's not the way things have been done. And why
would they care about that?

Speaker 5 (01:38:25):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:38:26):
Why? Well, if you do a little research into these royals,
you'll find that families like the Rothchilds and these royal families,
they have bloodlines that can be traced all the way
back to the Sumerians, traced all the way back to
these ancient bloodline kings. And the way they feel and

(01:38:47):
the reason why that the things are done the way
they are, is that they feel that their blood that
makes them who they are, makes them superior over everyone else,
because there are different bloodlines on this planet and part
of an old, ancient blood line, and they will protect
that at any cost. They will intermarry, they'll do anything
that doesn't it doesn't matter, it's protecting the bloodline is

(01:39:08):
the highest priority for them. Now where did they get
that from. That's exactly how the Onanaky governed their their
mentality of their royals. They are obsessed with with bloodlines.
When Otter hasis the character of Noah that people think
is a joke. When he survived, which he did, the
only reason en Loyl didn't just kill him because he

(01:39:29):
was one of the last humans on earth. That's an
absolutely readly Otrojsis. It says it clears day in there.
One the only reasons why that he didn't do that
was because he found out that he was that that
Otter hasis Noah. Zias Sudra was one of his names too,
was one of Nki's sons. What does that mean then?
It means he has royal blood. That's the whole thing
behind this is that these elites have royal blood lines

(01:39:52):
that they're still maintaining and they're still maintaining right they
have that they have that monarchy kingship in the UK,
and yet there's this illusion of all countries all over
the world that have all their own governing and all
their own laws, whereas these elites actually controlled basically the
whole world almost and they can because they control the

(01:40:12):
financing systems. The Central Bank is directly owned privately by
the roth Child family. The Federal Reserve is a privately
owned bank by the roth Child family. The United States
has no means to say anything about what it wants
to do with its own finances in terms of big decisions.
It's like basically just a puppet of these central banks. Now,

(01:40:35):
what countries are not on the central banks? How about Syria,
Iraq and Iran and all these countries that are being
targeted to be under propaganda and all these things. Really
nothing has changed. It's a combination of keeping war going
and destroying these ancient artifacts because that's where our most

(01:40:59):
ancient civilization as were. And it's it's about this old
ancient mentality that's been going on all along, from the
Romans to you know, all the way back to the
greatest Syrian empires. It's not much has changed. It's it's
their reflection here on earth basically.

Speaker 4 (01:41:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:19):
And another aspect I find kind of bizarre and fascinating
is the Vatican's role. Uh, how they It seems like
they suppress so much information and play such a key
role in what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:41:31):
Talk a little bit about.

Speaker 3 (01:41:32):
That, Okay, well, let's let's end. Let's end with that tonight.
The Vatican is is a fascinating aspect. It's one of
these areas that all someone has to do is do
a little search on it, and they're going to get
their mind blown. Because we have these you could call them,
control points on Earth, the United Kingdom, and through these,

(01:41:53):
these these monarchy kingship families, they're the the governing of
the planet. They're the think of that. There's the representations
of the governing structure. That's why they could the Rothchild
family makes all decisions. Whereas the religious center of the
planet is in Rome, it is the Vatican. And when
the conquerors of the Spanish Eagle, of the powerful Catholic Church,

(01:42:18):
when they came over and conquered the Americas, especially especially
the Aztec, they stole immense amounts of relics in ancient
writings that they had created, and they and they basically
stored them all underneath there. And that's not even the
beginning of it. The Vatican Archives also contains huge amounts

(01:42:41):
of cuneiform writings from from Mesopotamia. It contains writings from
all over the world. It contains all of these and
it's stuff that we haven't even seen. We're talking about
information in relics that should be in a museum, should
be something that we be studying, but it's in vault underground,

(01:43:02):
in this giant Vatican Archive that is being controlled by
the Church because it's just it's a way to its
hold on into control information. So they simply capture whatever
information they don't want people to see, and they keep
it locked away, and maybe they release some of it
at certain time periods and then act like they're hero

(01:43:23):
but they more importantly, they keep it all down there
and they keep it locked away because anything that's down
there is part of something that doesn't agree with what's
being told above. That's all it is. And so it's
about keeping. It's about keeping this version of what our
reality is. And so the Vatican Archives is one of
these places where in the future, when that whole thing

(01:43:46):
gets exposed and we get access to it, it's just
going to blow this entire thing wide open for all
that has been held back and all that's been stolen
from us, and the fact that we deserve all this
information because it's part of our history.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
Awesome, Well, I want to thank you for coming on.
That was amazing information.

Speaker 2 (01:44:09):
Great great stuff. Go ahead and in by telling us
about a little.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
Bit what you got going on, I hear that you're
working on another book right now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:19):
Is that true?

Speaker 3 (01:44:21):
Yeah? So I have a YouTube channel at Matthew Lacroix
where I try to create movies and little documentaries because
I know and everybody loves to read. Yeah, I'm going
to leave the links to that in the description, thank you,
and it has it has the means for someone to
learn a lot of this if they don't want to read. So,
I mean, I want to provide both. But at the
same time, I am a writer and I and I

(01:44:42):
guess I've been spending a lot of my time making
videos of the last year. I wrote my first book
two years ago, but it took me until about a
year ago to revise to the point where I'm really
happy about it. It's the second edition of The Illusion
of Us. But after that point I became pretty focused
on my making videos on my YouTube channel. But I'm
now at the point where I'm trying to slow down

(01:45:03):
a little bit and I'm spending every day I'm writing
this next book because I really want to get this done,
because I think it has a lot of really good
follow up information for my first one, much deep, much
deeper book, and I'm going to eventually coming up, I'm
gonna be looking maybe for an artist for the cover
and various things. I want to go down a little

(01:45:23):
bit more of a of a professional approach to this,
because I want this information to be taken seriously and
I want I want this next one to help bridge
the gap between a lot of this information. And then
so the next book is going to be called The
Stage of Time, and it's going to be it's gonna
focus both on Earth and what it's part of and

(01:45:46):
the importance of what it is all throughout history, But
more importantly, it's going to focus on also this War
of the Eagle and the Serpent that's gone on all
over Earth and how they've been trying to control certain
civilizations all along, and then get into the fact that
what's the whole point of it is to control timelines
and explain what timelines are and how small small things,

(01:46:11):
even like our conversation, can literally change the entire timeline
because it's like a butter the butterfly effect of our
actions and the o in the way we speak. If
you were to go give someone some information that they
didn't know about, how do you how do you know
how that's going to change their life going forward? They
might completely change what they would have done. And so

(01:46:32):
that's how timelines work, and they're very precise, and they
have to do with very small amounts of information at
certain times can have huge, huge actions for the future.
So I want to end on one thing I know
you want to know about. We're at a time where
a lot of this information is people like me are

(01:46:53):
who are not part of the mainstream. We're trying to
come forward to bring all this information to try to
to try to show all that's been hidden, Okay. And
also we have tremendous earth changes that are occurring on Earth.
Earth changes that are occurring right now with volcanoes and
tectonic movements and earthquakes, and that's part of these this

(01:47:18):
very interesting cycle that is occurring that it probably has
to do with solar minimums and this effects of this
planet that is going through. And I just want to
point out that this road that we're going down on
the next next call it eight years until we reach
the zodiacal house of Aquarius. This is going to be
a very bumpy road, and we it's not like learning
this information doesn't matter. This is a very important part

(01:47:39):
of our path forward because if we can uncover all
of this, we can stop the direction it's headed. We
can we can basically illuminate all of those who are
these rulers and all of these means that are holding
us back, and we can forge our own timeline. We
can go the path that a lot of these potential

(01:48:00):
She'll Sension civilizations and want us to go, because really
the overwhelming outcome of advanced civilizations is usually higher consciousness,
not war and control. Empires almost always collapse.

Speaker 2 (01:48:15):
Well, thank you, that was a great note to end on.
Appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
Well, I thank you again for coming on. I definitely
want to have you back on sometime soon and I'm
going to be looking forward to that book. Definitely let
us know you know when it we should be looking
for it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:32):
Well, thank you so much for having me on, Chris.
I really appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
Now anytime, anytime we look to have any back. So
thanks again.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
All right, thanks, have a good day.

Speaker 6 (01:48:40):
I Tonight I want to welcome back to the show
Marshall Masters. He is a pharmacy and in science features,
news producer, freelance writer, television analyst, and the publisher of
yowusa dot com. Since nineteen ninety nine, he has been
researching Earth changes, Planet X, sustainable survival, community, catastrophic crop circles,

(01:49:02):
impact events, and future technologies. Marshall, welcome back and how
are you doing tonight?

Speaker 4 (01:49:09):
Good to be back. Chris doing just fine. Thank you
so much. How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Oh, you know, I'm doing as good as I can
amongst all the madness going on. I'm glad you're here
because it's been a while since I've explored Planet X.
It was one of those topics that really got me
started down my path. When I first started researching this,
I was convinced Planet X was coming within my lifetime

(01:49:37):
and it was the definite cause of the major Earth
changes that are occurring right now. As time went on,
I stopped focusing and researching on Planet X for many reasons,
such as the hundreds of doomsday predictions and date settings,
and many of the researchers that I kind of used

(01:49:57):
to follow aren't even putting out information any more.

Speaker 3 (01:50:00):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
I'm not saying that I don't believe in Planet X.
I just put it to the back of my mind
and kind of just stop focusing on it. But now
with the approach of Comet Atlas and evidence that we're
heading into a debris field such as the recent actual
meteor impacts that we've been seeing increased fireball sightings, I

(01:50:24):
thought it would be a great time to discuss possible
threats from space. But right now the world is under lockdown.
We know the official narrative of pandemic, but there's some
strange things surrounding it as well. We're seeing CEOs resigning
in record numbers, along with large portions of them going underground,

(01:50:49):
some of the military going underground. So, Marshall, my first
question for you tonight. Could this response by world governments
because of a threat from space and using the virus
as a cover story. This is one of the theories

(01:51:09):
I've I've heard many times.

Speaker 3 (01:51:11):
What are your thoughts on this?

Speaker 4 (01:51:14):
Okay, before I answer that, I want to go to
the point you made initially where you lost interest and
moved on.

Speaker 5 (01:51:23):
People. You know.

Speaker 4 (01:51:25):
I saw it with my own eyes, so you know, frankly,
I just don't care about the huchat John anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:51:30):
This is for me.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
I'm working on my book. When when survival communities. There
you go, this is my book. I just brought it out. Okay, Whips,
there you go, camera's freaking out. That's my book, all
right now. I decided to write that after I saw

(01:51:53):
it with my own eye September ninth, twenty eighteen, okay, Warden, Washington.
And the thing that people don't understand is that the
whole topic of Planet X changed irrevocably and in a

(01:52:14):
very negative way as a result of the pastor hadge
blood Moon triad, which was supposed to happen in twenty
seventeen prophetic Carbinger date. It was a non event. But

(01:52:36):
I have an article on my size, Christian's own Planet X.

Speaker 5 (01:52:40):
They bought it that month.

Speaker 4 (01:52:43):
In one month in September, more people researched the topic
of Planet X than in the previous ten years, Okay.
And what that did was the deep state totally freaked

(01:53:06):
because it was a single demographic Christians. And what they
saw is that Planet X as a topic galvanizes Christians
very quickly across sect lines. Doesn't matter all right. Once
that happened after the blood Moon triad theory, and it

(01:53:29):
was a non event for them, the globalists went batshit crazy,
and that's when the heavy suppression, the draining, the everything,
and I mean what they have been doing, and particularly recently,
people don't understand how deep the damage goes, because yeah,

(01:53:52):
they demonetize your channel, they do other little stunts, but
you have to understand they can destroy your business in
your life very easily because they have access to the
data centers on the inside trusted networks through the NSA sniffers,
and so because they're sniffers, they put the sniffers in there.

(01:54:16):
And while the patriots control them, the sniffers have got
back doors, and the back doors have got back doors,
and those back doors have got back doors.

Speaker 5 (01:54:24):
You know how it goes. So what do I do?

Speaker 4 (01:54:26):
They come in, they get into the administrative tools and
they go in profile your account, and then they go,
if we modify this one or two user settings that
you could modify on your own, then we will set
and process a cavalcade of failure and then next thing

(01:54:47):
you know, your distribution accounts are shut down, your emails
are going to France, all kinds of nonsense, and if
you call for help, they say, well, you know you're
the one who did this, as you're setting Okay, So
this is how they do it. There has been brutal,

(01:55:08):
absolutely brutal. It is for me, it's like nothing. I've
been doing this for going on twenty years and since
twenty seventeen, it's yeah, it's.

Speaker 5 (01:55:23):
It's war. That's it. They're just warring on us. Sass.

Speaker 4 (01:55:27):
A reason why you're not you know, you're seeing it.
There's a lot of information. Anybody that's doing credible research
is getting crucified. And the ones that are putting up
you know, fear bait and click porn and all that stuff,
they're making it hands over fist.

Speaker 3 (01:55:45):
And I agree.

Speaker 6 (01:55:45):
That's another huge problem is the ones that are making
those those fear porn videos that have no idea about
Planet X, but they just want the clicks, they.

Speaker 5 (01:55:56):
Want the click.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57):
And these these are the people that the one thing
they do that just gores my ox because I try
and help people with the best science I can give them,
well and they go here, they blow it out their
ass and then they say.

Speaker 5 (01:56:14):
Hey, what do you think tell me?

Speaker 4 (01:56:16):
And they're just then using you know, stupidity for another
clique and I and they're rewarded for it. They're the
ones getting traffic. Okay, so the people who used to
fall that are falling off by the wayside. That's not
their choice. But when your livelihood's destroyed when something you know,

(01:56:37):
you you built your channel, or you're publishing, whatever you're doing.
If they're diminishing you, they're crucifying you. They are hitting
you ten thousand ways to Sunday, all right, And it's
not a pretty thing. Now, why is it this way?

(01:56:59):
Let me go to the question then that was at
the end of your series of questions. What's really happening
right now is the biggest game of musical chairs in
the history of the planet. Whoever's left standing when the
music stops gets to sleep with the dinosaurs. And right now,

(01:57:23):
the ones that are dancing around are the patriots, the brexit,
the nationalist, the Alliance, the freedom movements in general, okay,
and the elites. That's where it's at. So what happens
if who wins, who loses? So far, you know, the

(01:57:48):
elites have been winning, and I saw that in two
thousand and five. That's when I first came to it
and understood that the role of the elites is to
reduce the population by ninety five percent. Remember Georgia guidestones,
keep it under a half a billion doesn't tell us
how we get there? All right, So I see all

(01:58:10):
of this. People are being kept in the dark, so
I find and then they're being misled by a lot
of fear porn, a lot of wild speculation, and it
whips them up. And there's some of it that's organic,
and you know, it's just people. It's you know, I

(01:58:30):
call them newbie gloomers. You know, all of a sudden,
Oh my god, we're going sky is holling.

Speaker 5 (01:58:43):
Bottom line is.

Speaker 4 (01:58:47):
It's about you, how you spend your time, what you're
gonna look at, and if all you can find is
disinformation and a topic, then you do what you've done.

Speaker 5 (01:58:59):
You said to decide and go.

Speaker 4 (01:59:00):
So that has been something and that is exactly, Chris,
what the whole campaign is about is for guys like
you to go, I'm gonna move on to another topic
where I don't have so much happy bullshit, okay, right,
And that's the way it goes. So for me, yeah,

(01:59:22):
I've seen it. I see the pictures, the reports are
coming in. The data is consistent. But you know what,
like I keep saying, Planet X is like UFOs, You're
not gonna believe it until an alien is eating your
face off.

Speaker 5 (01:59:37):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (01:59:38):
Well, well, thank you for addressing that. It was very
well stated, and I completely I get it. You know,
I understand how these powers that be can demonize certain
groups and just make them seem irrelevant. It's happening to,
you know, almost all of us in this conspiratorial field

(01:59:59):
right now. But let's start with something that everyone does
know about, something that is in the mainstream news.

Speaker 3 (02:00:09):
Comet Atlas.

Speaker 6 (02:00:11):
I'd like to get your assessment of any threat levels
of this. I know it recently broke up into like
five pieces and they're still giving these estimates of however
many millions of miles it's gonna pass. So what are
your thoughts on Comet Atlas and is this something that
we should be worried about.

Speaker 4 (02:00:33):
I'm concerned about it because a major chunk is gonna
pass within a few hundred miles of the Sun.

Speaker 5 (02:00:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:00:40):
It reminds you remember Star Trek for the Journey Home,
where they go to save the whales.

Speaker 3 (02:00:46):
And they vaguely do yes, yeah, and they have.

Speaker 4 (02:00:49):
To go back in time and they have to whip
around the sun. You know, they use the Sun's gravity well,
and they whip around the sign and it's real toasty
in there, and it reminds me of this a few
hundred miles away from the Sun. That's in astronomical terms,

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that's as good as a dead hit.

Speaker 1 (02:01:14):
I think it's like something like two hundred something miles
that it's going to be from the sun, ridiculously close.

Speaker 4 (02:01:20):
And so how this is all going to play out
right now? I don't know how they can track it
and talk about you got. What you got is a
debris field and most anything can disrupt that debris field

(02:01:40):
at this point, So it is until it is clearly
out of harm's way. Atlas is a problem. I think
we have to be concerned about Atlas. You don't know,
I mean, it's coming through the system. It's like you break,
you know, when you're playing pool and you break the
rack right boum balls going everywhere.

Speaker 5 (02:02:04):
We can have something like that. So this is and.

Speaker 4 (02:02:09):
Most likely if it's an Atlas event, we're not going
to get any warning.

Speaker 1 (02:02:16):
And I mean, I'm sure you've seen that. We've had,
of course increased fireballs in general, but lately they had
a supposed huge impact in Africa. A couple of other
fireballs that actually made impact in the ground, and I'm
getting sightings and videos every day of fireballs coming through.

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Is this connected to the Atlas debris field or is
this the Planet X debris field?

Speaker 5 (02:02:45):
In general? Who knows?

Speaker 4 (02:02:48):
I can tell you that there's the debris field is
really more about propaganda. I reported on that particular story
in one of my previous articles, and I nailed them.
They led out their butts. They said that the government
came out and said it was an ammunition truck that

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accidentally exploded. And I looked at the damage. I'm looking
at everything. I'm going now, this doesn't look good to me.
I'm not connecting the dots here. So I got a
hold of someone who's works in explosives with the military,
and I said, here, watch this report and tell me

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what you think. And he came back and said, Hey,
where's the paint blisters? He said, if truck blew up,
he said, if a truck with that intmunitions blew up,
he said, there would be pieces of it scattered everywhere.
And they were saying in the story that the truck
was buried at the bottom of the hole and couldn't
be brought up.

Speaker 5 (02:03:55):
All right, So.

Speaker 4 (02:03:57):
There's all kinds of lies and cover ups. All of
the things are happening. The impacts are happening, the awakening
is happening. More people are starting to you know, things
are forcing them to look around. And it's always convenient

(02:04:18):
to have one thing, Okay, always convenient for one thing,
one problem, one challenge, one enemy.

Speaker 5 (02:04:28):
That's not real life. Real life. When it reigns, it pours.

Speaker 4 (02:04:31):
Okay, So if the Patriots are going to win, Trump
and the Patriots are going to win, all right, that's
good news. We're going to have a chance to fight
for ourselves and stay free and raise children. And if

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the globalists win, they prevail in this battle of good
versus evil, it is an apocalypse and if they prevail,
we will be a slave species for countless generations to come.

Speaker 6 (02:05:08):
Uh yeah, we can. We can see this happening. I've
talked about this on multiple shows that so many people
are waking up right now. It's it's amazing to see. Uh,
it's amazing to see the pushback on some of the
social media where you know, we have Bill Gates pushing
vaccines and people are just waking up and bashing his

(02:05:30):
ads and and all these celebrities trying to support this
you know this, this lockdown and everything. People are just
waking up to it and it's an amazing thing to see. Now,
since you haven't been on in a while, and I
have not covered Planet X in a long time, I'd
like you to give everyone just a brief synopsis of

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what Planet X is because there has been some confusion.
Some people think it's a road planet, a mini solar system.
So just give us a breakdown of exactly what Planet
X is and what we will be facing.

Speaker 4 (02:06:08):
Okay, now, first, what I would want to say to
everybody is if you go to my website YOWUSA dot
com and you go up into videos, what you want
is Planet X one oh one, who, what, where, why, when,
and how? In one hour, you're going to know the
entire history. And I am going to tell you.

Speaker 5 (02:06:31):
I will.

Speaker 4 (02:06:33):
State for publishing that video. They came close to put
me out of business for that, and I've kept it
up because it's a no bullshit, hard facts. You can
bet everything that's in there. It'll tell you exactly step
by step. The search for Planet X, which by the way,

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occurred after the discovery of urness Uriness, was the first
object discovered with a telescope and it was observed, and
they found a perturbation, a zigzag in the orbit which
had to be caused by something larger. When they calculated
the perturber using the observations that they had of Uranus.

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The mathematicians sent a coordinate in the time to an
observatory in Germany, and literally they just took the scope,
put it right on it, and boom right there, and
Neptune was discovered with mathematics, all right. Neptune was the

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very first planet X. Planet X simply is a term
that says, you know, a planet exists by virtue of
the way it interacts with known bodies.

Speaker 5 (02:07:57):
Okay, so.

Speaker 4 (02:08:02):
It's you know, it's a pretty simple thing, known bodies.
Everybody has all of the unknowns. They say, oh, we
can't see it, so it doesn't exist. Bullshit. The failure

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to observe an object proves only one thing. You have
failed to observe the object.

Speaker 5 (02:08:30):
That's it. That's all it proves. Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:08:35):
And so the search was on and it was actually
the astronomer all right, and Loll observatory, and Loll was
the one who inherited planet X, and he was the
one that coined the term planet X. Prior to that
it was called Neptune's Perturber, and then other astronomers. In

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nineteen Carlos Munus Ferada all right, Argentinian astronomer, brilliant man.
He was the first one to announce that planet X
was actually a what they called a black sun at
the time, which now is the term is brown dwarf.

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But they called it a black star with a large
rocky planet several times the size of Earth. And he
put it in a thirty six hundred year orbit like
Zachariah Sitchen, and so astronomers have been tracking it. You know,
they say it's an Internet hoax. That's the hoax. And

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by the way, every time you hear the term conspiracy theory,
do you know the term conspiracy theorist was invented by
the CIA as a mine game to discredit honest whistleblowers.

Speaker 6 (02:10:04):
After the assassination of JFK.

Speaker 4 (02:10:06):
Yes, that's right, they invented the term conspiracy theories. So
the conspiracy people created the mockery. But it's always the
way it goes. Evil always reflects itself on to everyone else.
So what we have now is a mini constellation. There's

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a sun at the center of it, which is a
twin to our star, our binary star, and it's called Nemesis.
And around Nemesis is a small constellation of planets and moons,
and we are currently observing the major planets. And the
picture I have up on my series PC Corona Virus

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Planet X connection and if you go to the very
first one there is the analysis of the image.

Speaker 6 (02:11:00):
Now you're talking about the the outermost planets of this
mini solar system are most observable right now?

Speaker 5 (02:11:09):
Yeah, I mean it's.

Speaker 4 (02:11:12):
Uh, why don't I just go and I'll get the imagine.

Speaker 5 (02:11:18):
I'll share my.

Speaker 4 (02:11:19):
Screen, sure, of course, and.

Speaker 5 (02:11:24):
I gotta go back a little bit.

Speaker 6 (02:11:30):
Uh, Okay, So essentially we're, you know, we're looking at
a brown dwarf with with several surrounding.

Speaker 3 (02:11:40):
Large planets.

Speaker 4 (02:11:41):
Correct. Yeah, Now I'm gonna share my screen with you guys.
Hold on a second, here, okay, share a screen. Come on,
here we go, Here we go, share a screen. This
is the picture I've put up on my website.

Speaker 1 (02:12:01):
All right, we got it.

Speaker 4 (02:12:02):
This is at altitude Civilian passenger jet. These three objects
are real natural objects, and this is real unnatural kem trailing.

Speaker 5 (02:12:19):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:12:20):
I saw this picture and I went, okay, we better
go take a look at it, all right, So let's
do an analysis, all right, let me bring it up here.
Here's the analysis. You should be seeing it pretty quick.
Do you see it?

Speaker 6 (02:12:41):
Yes, I can see the analysis.

Speaker 5 (02:12:43):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:12:44):
Now I use a gamma method with digital imagery.

Speaker 5 (02:12:49):
It works.

Speaker 4 (02:12:50):
It doesn't do with film, but on digital images it's beautiful.
It's like a master volume. Turns everything up, turns everything down.
But the point of it is, when you turn everything down,
you reduce the amount of light, and natural objects will
continue to be bright. But unnatural things like lens flares, uh,

(02:13:13):
lens aberrations, things like that, they can't stand up. They're reflected.
They're not natural objects, and so they don't generate the light.
So you look here, here's gamma one, then gamma seventy five,
gamma fifty, gamma twenty five, then gamma twenty, gamma point fifteen,

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gamma point ten, and here it is gamma zero point
zero one. And you can still clearly see the two
objects above and they won off to the left hand side. Okay,
only natural objects do.

Speaker 5 (02:13:55):
That, all right.

Speaker 4 (02:13:58):
So I saw this picture sure, and by the one
the location where you see it, where the sun is
directly at the top, the one in the center. That's
where I saw it, except it wasn't that big and
it was a little closer to the sun when I
saw it.

Speaker 6 (02:14:14):
The most common question would be why isn't this visible
at all times? And why isn't everyone seeing it?

Speaker 4 (02:14:21):
Because these objects are behind the sun, and the only
time you can view them is close to sunrise or
close to sunset. If you try and go out at noon,
you're not going to see it, all right, And so
when you're at altitude, you have the advantage of atmospheric lensing.

(02:14:44):
And that's the reason why these things, these objects become visible,
is the atmospheric lensing at that time. So you know,
people go, you know, they run out at noon. I looked,
I couldn't see anything. You're full of it, really, you know,
you got to look at the right time. I mean,
if you're a deer hunter, okay, uh, what do you

(02:15:14):
If you're a deer hunter, you're gonna know where to
set your blind okay, and you're gonna know that. You
just don't race around the countryside in a pickup truck
going yip ee yipe, all right. You have to go
and you have to know when it's going to be there?
Where do you expect it? Yeah, you're hunting for this object.

(02:15:36):
I wasn't hunting for it when I saw it. I
was with someone else who noticed it. We saw it together,
all right, And she has a very very strong science background.
We were out doing that day. We were actually out
studying geology. So it's there and people aren't talking talking

(02:16:00):
about it because the suppression is very effective, and it's
just as simple as that.

Speaker 6 (02:16:06):
Now, will there be a time where it is inevitable
that everyone will see it, that that it will move
out from behind the sun and there will be no
hiding it anymore?

Speaker 4 (02:16:17):
Oh? Yeah, Yeah. When I saw when I saw the
three objects, Okay, you saw three? What is I have
seen one or two? One or two? One or two
for ten years? First time I ever saw three natural
objects in one image.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
That checked out?

Speaker 4 (02:16:40):
First time. Okay, But you know it's coming. It's a
clear sign that it's coming. But I can get the
same questions, well.

Speaker 5 (02:16:54):
What are we gonna do? You know, I don't want
to believe it's terrible whatever.

Speaker 4 (02:17:02):
Okay, So I just you know, for me, I just
really I know what's coming. I'm just gonna wait for
people to collectively wet their pants and then we're going
to have a conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:17:15):
Now for also for those that are new to the
topic of Planet X. The reason that, of course it's
so concerning is that the proximity it will pass near
Earth will cause major cataclysms. Now, of course no one

(02:17:37):
knows the extent, but from past cataclysms that were thought
to have been caused by this same system, it it
could be a extinction level event for you know, most
of the planet we're talking it. You know, earthquakes, mass earthquakes,

(02:17:59):
volcano knows, and these are just some of the things
leading up. It could get as bad as a complete
pull shift.

Speaker 3 (02:18:08):
Is that correct?

Speaker 4 (02:18:10):
Yeah, But I want to go back to something you said,
passing close to the Earth. I hear this happy bullshit
all the time, and I've heard it for years from
fearmongers who want the ad sense revenue and the clickbait.
Let me state for your community, it's not going to
hit us, and it's not going to come nowhere near us.

(02:18:32):
It's going to arc over our heads and pass between
the orbits of Mars and Jupiter as it goes south.
But say hello to my little friends and solar interaction.
It's going to leave a mark, and it's going to
be a very long and bloody tribulation. It will be
decades long.

Speaker 5 (02:18:54):
And that's just the way it is.

Speaker 4 (02:18:56):
But I see it from these you know, and the
people who are saying it's going to hit us, or
they're saying it's going you know, all of this proximity stuff.
They're doing one or two things. They're paid disinformation operatives,
or there's dumb as a sack of hammers. You want

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to listen to that. Hey, it's a free will.

Speaker 6 (02:19:24):
Now, you know. That being said, with everything that's happening
right now, we're having you know, some states that say
we're going to slowly open up, we're having we're actually divided,
completely divided as a country right now. They have the

(02:19:45):
camp that wants to open up everything, get things back
rolling again, and then those that want to keep us
in a lockdown. Do you think that this is just
going to be the way it is into untill we
possibly see more effects from this. Do you think that
this is linked to the Planet X in any way?

Speaker 4 (02:20:11):
Well, the pandemic is directly related to Planet X because
what they're trying to do is dethrone Trump so they
can regain power, and they want to destroy new trade
alliances that are going to undermine their cash cow. All right,
So what they're doing with Nancy Pelosi and her ten

(02:20:33):
thousand dollars ice cream refrigerator, okay, is they want to
prolong this for as long as possible. They don't care
how many businesses and lives are destroyed. What they want
is for everybody to be in isolation so that it
forces mail in ballots, which they can easily corrupt and

(02:20:56):
win the elections with forgery. And that's their strategy, that's
the whole This pandemic has multiple things that they want
to do with it. One of it is that they
want to be able to and listen, you know, they're saying, oh,
my gosh, you know we have to mail in voting,

(02:21:16):
mail in voting. And now they're saying, well, we're going
to be here through September or October, and of course
they're saying in September October so they don't create a concern.
And in September they're saying, oh, we've got to be
here through the end of the year. Now we have
to have mail in ballots so we can lie, steal
and cheat the election. And that's what the whole thing is,

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the coronavirus. And I really you know, China has a
four killed strategy. One they invented this thing, Two they
released it in three they covered it up.

Speaker 2 (02:21:57):
And four.

Speaker 4 (02:21:59):
When they were covering it up, they went out and
bought off the market all of the PPP equipment that
they could. And they turned around and have made a
cash cow killing on this disease. They spread around the world.
And what China's done here when it comes out, if

(02:22:22):
it does come out fully in the wash, hundreds of
thousands of people are murdered because of communist thugs in China.

Speaker 5 (02:22:36):
Yeah, next time, the next time.

Speaker 7 (02:22:38):
You go into the store and you buy a gadget
and it says, you know, made in China, you're out
there helping them kill people.

Speaker 6 (02:22:51):
Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. China is
one of the main parts of this elitist regime that
that is causing all this destruction and death. Now, I
want to get back to some of the earth changes
that are happening right now. Something that the mainstream news

(02:23:12):
picked up on for maybe a couple of weeks is
our magnetic north movement. How it's still rapidly moving and
there's got to eventually be a point where it can't
go anymore, and it's the magnetic north is gonna flip. Now,
I can imagine with the approach of Planet X that

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this could add to the the inevitability of this this flip.

Speaker 1 (02:23:40):
Right.

Speaker 4 (02:23:42):
Well, what's happening is is the it's already doing that
all right. Our Sun is interacting with Nemesis and as
a result, it's more luminous, it's brighter, very small amount,
you know, percent, maybe two, that's all it takes. And

(02:24:06):
so when you're seeing all the chemtrails sprang, what are
they doing. What they're doing is they're trying to reflect
photons of light back out into space, which carry radiation.
They don't want that extra radiation hitting the Earth because
what's happening, and what we have found is that there's

(02:24:28):
a movement of magma that's unnatural. Now, it's not that
there's more magma or lass, or it's hotter colder relative speaking,
it's velocity. Velocity has changed. The magma is moving much faster,
and the earthquake data we've been tracking for years now

(02:24:50):
is painting a picture of that very clear. So this
is something where they're chem trailing, because they're not trying
to save those of us alive today with kem trailing.
It's kem trailing is like a rotten onion. Peeling a
rotten onion, you're just gonna cry every time you pull

(02:25:11):
off a layer. What they're doing is they're hedging the future.

Speaker 5 (02:25:18):
You see.

Speaker 4 (02:25:19):
They want to go into their bunkers knowing everybody on
the surface is gonna die like sheep, and that when
it's all said and done, they come back to the surface.
Earth hasn't turned into another Mars or another Venus, but
we still have a biosphere, we still have an atmosphere. Okay,

(02:25:42):
the planet can heal itself. And so that's what they're doing,
is they're chemtrailing now, so they inherit a green Earth.

Speaker 5 (02:25:54):
And as with.

Speaker 4 (02:25:55):
Everything evil does, it's always you know, it's a banquet. Yeah,
you got the big bore in the middle of the table,
and then all the garnishes you could ever want around it. Okay,
So that's the same thing, and that's what's going on
right now. Trump and the Patriots have really thrown a

(02:26:16):
wrench into the globalist plans, which are to get five
G rolled out. I'm very happy to hear that people
are burning.

Speaker 5 (02:26:29):
The towers, right, I'm.

Speaker 4 (02:26:32):
Very happy to hear that. You know, SpaceX just put
up this link system and they're they're putting it up
where they can cover the sky with you know, all
these satellites, communication satellites. I think that, to me is

(02:26:53):
probably going to prevail. And I think five G is
going to slide by because people are against it. They're
burning the towers. Everybody hates and despises it. People will
buy the phones. I mean, this is a bridge too far.
Five G is total invasion. It is total invasion everything.

(02:27:18):
There's nothing left in your life that's sacred. But what
really bothers me is, see the thing about four G
is you're moving around, fine, you stop, you watch a video,
you play something. Five G redefines your interface with the world.
With five G you literally have the build walk down

(02:27:40):
the street and you could see a virtual reality overlaid
on what you're seeing in the street, and things on
the street that you don't want to see are going
to be taken out. You're not going to see that
drug addict laying in the gutter, for example. That'll be

(02:28:01):
sponged out, just like the green screen we have here. Okay,
you're going to see a world that they want you
to see. You're going to be passive. You're going to
and that's it. I mean, when they do enslave all
of us, they're going to make it a pleasurable experience
instead of a fearful experience. It's easier to control the

(02:28:22):
animals that way.

Speaker 6 (02:28:25):
Yeah, we have some We have so many things that
are occurring right now, and it is an amazing thing
that we're all waking up to this and realizing it
because now is the time to do it.

Speaker 2 (02:28:39):
We have to, if if to ensure our survival.

Speaker 6 (02:28:44):
Now, getting back to what we're going to be looking
at in the coming years, we've already seen increased earthquakes, volcanoes,
weather patterns. I still pay very much attention to the
earth changes. Where now I have to imagine that this
is going to continue to increase. It seems to come

(02:29:06):
in cycles. There are certain seasons that it seems these
changes kind of ramp up and then they'll quiet down
a little bit, but the next season it's ten times stronger,
and it seems to keep increasing.

Speaker 3 (02:29:20):
With these cycles.

Speaker 6 (02:29:22):
I imagine this is something we're going to continue to
see as this gets closer.

Speaker 4 (02:29:26):
Right, well, yeah, we're starting to get into the region
of positive feedback lips, where circumstances are self fueling themselves,
all right.

Speaker 7 (02:29:38):
And.

Speaker 5 (02:29:41):
That's not a good thing.

Speaker 4 (02:29:46):
To be frank, life as we know it ended with coronavirus.
Things are never going to be the same.

Speaker 5 (02:29:55):
People.

Speaker 4 (02:29:57):
A lot of businesses have found uh they could do
remote working or cut down. I mean a lot of
businesses are going to have new strategies to deal with this,
to cut overhead, not to be so vulnerable to these things,
all right, And we're going to have within a year

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and I think it's within a year, and other researchers
I talked to her saying the same thing. So by
the end of this year, by the middle or so
of next year, that's it. People are going to be
standing out on the corner going, hey, fellas you ever
seen that WHOA, Okay, let's go to see what they
see on CNN. And then CNN is gonna lie their

(02:30:45):
ass off. They're gonna say, oh, don't worry about, don't
worry about. Everything's going to be wonderful, because that's what
the globalists want to do.

Speaker 5 (02:30:52):
You know.

Speaker 4 (02:30:53):
I mean it's like when you're getting the cattle up
into the ramps so you can sloterm. You want them
to be real comfortable and think it's a nice joy trip.
You know, they're treating us the same way, okay, And
it is going to be when it starts really unfolding,
And when are we going to know we're in deep kimchi?

Speaker 5 (02:31:16):
All right?

Speaker 4 (02:31:17):
You saw the three images. When one of those planets
develops a terminator, we're screwed.

Speaker 5 (02:31:27):
That's it.

Speaker 4 (02:31:28):
Let me repeat that everybody can hear it, because it's
my prediction. When we see a terminator on one of
these planets, we're screwed. So what's terminator? Terminator is the
line between light and dark? And so we think about this.
You know the phases of the moon, all right, and

(02:31:51):
what is the phases of the moon? The terminator is
moving across the surface and changing the shape of it.
When one of these things starts to look like a
crescent moon, that's when we know it's on the systems
coming in on our side, and it's going to be showtime.

(02:32:14):
So that's what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a terminator.
Right now, we don't have a terminator. Everything's behind the sun,
so it's a total lit sunlit side and that's it.
Now we see a terminator, it's ten years a very
up and down, not so good, slow motion train wreck.
We're going to have periods of quiescence and then boom,

(02:32:39):
and then it's quiescence and quiet and then boom. And
that's the way it's going to happen, punctuated amounts of violence,
and people are going to be prepared for that where
they're not. Most are not modern civilization. We're very foolish

(02:33:00):
about things. We build to fail, play the odds, and yeah,
if the odds don't pan out, we crawled a hole
in the ground, eat dead food, and worry about what's
gonna come next. All right, anything that's on the surface,

(02:33:22):
you can get slammed. You know, people don't know how
to live with a lot of without electricity. People don't
know how to grow food.

Speaker 5 (02:33:31):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:33:33):
Well, you know, I thought that's what we could end
on tonight. Is Look, I know that we're already seeing
food shortages. They're ordering the euthanization of millions of cattle
and chicken. I mean, the food shortages are coming.

Speaker 4 (02:33:52):
Yeah, we just yeah, because and let me let me
talk to that real quick. Last year we had a
shortfall and what happened was the market did not price in.

Speaker 5 (02:34:06):
For this year.

Speaker 4 (02:34:07):
If we have a short fall, they priced in based
on we would have another bumper crop this year, which
would cancel last year. Well, guess what. We just went
from a shortfall to a short fall.

Speaker 5 (02:34:18):
We're screwed.

Speaker 6 (02:34:20):
Yeah. Now that being said, I know that people's options
for preparation right now are extremely limited. The time to
prep was last year, you know, or even before that.
But that being said, what can people do now as
much as they can to prepare for what's coming?

Speaker 5 (02:34:43):
What can they do?

Speaker 4 (02:34:44):
Stop watching click porn and fear bait. Stop giving your
time and your life to these bullshit artists.

Speaker 5 (02:34:55):
You know, there's a.

Speaker 4 (02:34:55):
Lot of good videos on how to make a smokeless fire,
all right, how to do this, how to do that?
Information you can learn. You know, it's not as much
fun as.

Speaker 2 (02:35:10):
WHOA, We're gonna die.

Speaker 3 (02:35:11):
We're gonna die, We're gonna die, We're gonna die.

Speaker 4 (02:35:13):
Okay, that's fun. People like that. They're porn junkies, you know,
fear porn junkies. So what are you gonna do? Stop
being a fear porn junkie. Start thinking like a survivor. Okay,
start doing some homework. Survival is not about a person, place, time,
or thing. Survival is a state of mind. And that's

(02:35:37):
what people don't understand. They think they go buy a
bucket of stuff at Costco and their survivors give me
a break. Okay, no way, So stop with the garbage
and start force yourself. Yes, it's really really boring to

(02:35:59):
learn how to make a smokeless fire. It's really boring
to learn how to open up, you know, a can
of food with nothing but a piece of concrete. But
these are the kind of things that that's gonna help
you when the time comes. Or you can just be

(02:36:22):
a hopeless, you know, hopeless snowflake that was self absorbed
with the stupidity purepoint.

Speaker 3 (02:36:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:36:32):
And and you know, on top of that, I think
you know, people also need to be more self sustainable.
If they can seeds, start a garden, learn to do
self maintenance, just just learn to to to live on
your own. Because the more we are self sustainable, the
less we have to rely on these powers and control,

(02:36:54):
and the closer we can get to to to changing
things and and possibly changing our entire timeline.

Speaker 4 (02:37:03):
I'm trying now. It's doing things, and you do it seriously.
And a lot of people are just gonna be They're
going to be caught flat footed because they allowed themselves
to be caught flat footed. And they're going to be
people who are clear eyed and they're looking and seeing

(02:37:26):
what's around them, and they're thinking, and they're thinking and
they trust their own opinions. You know, the thing about truth,
it's a pretty rare commodity these days. The only truth
that really matters is the truth that resonates within you
because you and you alone put it there.

Speaker 5 (02:37:49):
And how do you do that?

Speaker 8 (02:37:52):
You have to God, you have to do your homework.
Oh okay, that's it. Get off your ass, do homework.
You want to live, do your homework.

Speaker 4 (02:38:08):
Oh my god, No, I sound like a fourth grade teacher.

Speaker 3 (02:38:11):
I agree.

Speaker 6 (02:38:12):
You gotta do your research now, Marshall, you've put out
some survival material, some material about radios survival in general.
So if people are interested in looking at your work,
let them know where they can go to find some
of this material.

Speaker 4 (02:38:30):
Go to my site Marshallmasters dot com, YOWUSA dot com.
There's two books, Radio Free Earth okay. Two way communications.
People think bubble pack radios are cool dumb, Okay, in
the worst of times, the worst people are going to
have the best radios. And if all you got is
signal flares and bandanas, you ain't gonna do so good.

Speaker 5 (02:38:53):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (02:38:55):
Second thing, whin win survival communities. This is about people
coming together forming small survival churches, and I lay out
an entire planet. It is a business plan for the
common man. It's a very large book, one hundred and
twenty five thousand words, okay. And when I wrote both

(02:39:15):
of those books right now, okay, it's that much thought
and homework and research. And I made the books as
interesting as possible, try and get newbies into it. But
it's about having to learn something new. People just don't

(02:39:37):
do that unless they see a clar in president danger.
And I wrote those books knowing, yes, we're all going
to see it. Everybody's going to see it, and when
they're wedding their pants, that's when they need to learn.
I wrote the books for people who are peeing their pants. Okay,
it's quick immersion for people who appearing peeing their pants,

(02:40:00):
that's it.

Speaker 5 (02:40:01):
And otherwise if you read them now to work.

Speaker 3 (02:40:07):
Yes, God forbid the homework.

Speaker 4 (02:40:09):
God forbid the homework. So you know, if you die,
you know, think about it. Maybe it's because you're lazy,
it would be Marshall.

Speaker 6 (02:40:26):
Thank you so much for coming on tonight. It's fantastic
information and we're going to have you back on for
some more updates in the future.

Speaker 4 (02:40:34):
Oh always, man, I like hanging with you.

Speaker 6 (02:40:37):
Awesome man. Well, you have an excellent rest of your night.
There you too.

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