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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Today. I want to welcome back to the show Randy Weidenheimer.
He is a host of Guya's original series Quantum Effect,
as well as a featured guest and Undisclosed. He has
also appeared in Open Minds with Regina Meredith and Beyond
Belief with George Nori. He is an energy healer and
a member of the Patawatami tribe. He learned at a

(00:27):
very young age the power of plants and vibration in
the healing process. At around the age of nineteen, he
began his in depth studies of martial arts, which led
to other forms of energy transfer and healing practices from
world renowned masters and teachers. He developed a healing method
he calls creative energetic health. Randy, welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm doing great. Good to see you again.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, great to see you. It's been a while since
you've been on. Today, I think we're gonna dive deeper
into true nature of how we really interact with all
the energy and information surrounding us at all times. We're
going to discuss discuss some things that you're currently looking at,
like biohacking and field information flows and interferences. We're going

(01:15):
to find out all about that. But since it's been
so long, remind the audience a bit about your background
and what led you down the path you're on.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
I think there was a country in Western song that said,
God bless the crooked road that led me to you.
I think that's true for everyone, and mine might have
been more crooked than most. But at a very early age,
I mean seven eight years old, I've become fascinated with physics,

(01:50):
and in particular nuclear physics. Kind of an odd thing
for an eight year old, but by thirteen it was
laser physics. By fifteen or sixteen it was quantum physics.
And so it's kind of like catching a cold you
can't get rid of. You know, you're continually fighting with

(02:12):
it or engaged with it, is the way I refer
to it. And as you go along, you start learning
the language, and if you keep going, you start learning
that the language is also present and everything from spirituality
to psychology to just all kinds of things. So one

(02:35):
of the things I do is what I call cultural
appropriation of quantum physics language. And when I did that,
started doing that, that was twenty five years ago. I
was at a science and consciousness conference, and I started
talking about that in that way, and they basically all
thought I was crazy. And now it's commonplace. It's commonplace

(02:58):
to talk about these things, and so I think that's
the typical path. The first you're crazy, and then they
kind of accept it, and then like they just passed
you by and forget where it came from. Right, But
those were fascinating conversations because there were all kinds of
people of these conferences, and one of the things there

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were Russian physicists and they were a lot farther along
than we were in the application of some of these things.
And basically it's applied consciousness. And doctor Bill Tiller was
a friend of mine and he got all enamored with it.

(03:43):
I wrote some books about it and stuff, and I
used to do some consulting with him. And that's the
ability of anybody to influence their own selves and to
influence everybody else. So if we keep going, we come
up with like how to win friends and influence people.

(04:03):
That was a book back in the sixties, and then
now we're at like how to be a friend to
yourself and how to influence yourself. Actually becomes a phenomenon
of quantum physics. It's taking everything outside and actually trying
to find out what the inside looks like. So, without

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being too vague, this gets into everything from meditation to
spirituality to whatever, because everything you can influence outside of you,
it's like done by something inside you. So if we
take that and keep going, we come up with like, well,
the human body and human life is a great instruction manual.

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It has all the faculties to be able to explore
what it means to have conscious us, or to be
spiritual or all these other things, right, and so then
it becomes a matter of avoiding the traps. The traps
become ideas, they become memes, they become viral thoughts literally,

(05:16):
and we participate in all that. And so at some
point you start coming back to the idea, and especially
in meditation, that maybe you could have an influence on yourself.
And so I started studying martial arts at very early
Asian kung fu and martial arts is very interesting. If

(05:38):
you progress beyond the fighting, it's very much about internal development.
It's about the ability to influence yourself. It's about the
ability to control your own blood pressure, to control your heartbeat,
control your respiration, and you've got the ideal subject yourself.
But these things are require a lot of time and

(06:01):
a lot of practice, and so most people today want appeal.
It's like give me a pill. And of course that's
where we are in what I call biohacking, very popular
right now. The idea you can modify yourself well in
kung fu and then kunlini, yoga and a lot of

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other spiritual practices. I've studied a bunch of it over
the last fifty years. Is the difference is I've decided
that every time they'd say you could do this or
this could be done, I took an interest in it
and decided, let me practice that to the point that
I develop a skill set to be able to influence
my own thoughts, my own energy flows, my own heart rate,

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things like that. You do it, I learned to do
it to others. And one of the things about healing
is like when you're doing the healing practices which I
do on other people, it's like, excuse me a minute,
let me work on that on myself. Right, let me
see what the effect of that is for myself. So

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now back to quantum physically, get into well, what are
you using, what's the operative operating kind of like tools
or I mean, this is where the language goes crazy.
You're using your own energy feel to influence others. They're

(07:27):
using your thoughts or emotions to power that. And somebody recently,
very famous said, well, if you want to make a
change the world, use your emotions, and like that's the
most horrible way to progress that I can think of.
But that's my opinion, okay. And the reason is you
can't sustain an emotion. I mean a lot of people

(07:48):
can hang onto one, you can be sad for years
or mad whatever, but you just can't do it. And
so basically, your electromagnetic field you can increase by all
kinds of practice, breathing, proni, diama, just a dozen different things.

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But the idea is the bigger the energy field, the
more influence you have. Now we know that we call
that a charismatic person. Some of them run for president
and so. But the idea is that large electromagnetic field
is something that you're capably utilizing like a tool. You

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can apply it to yourself. So biohacking tries to find
all these different formulas. I've gone down that path. I've
made a bunch of formulas that have different benefits. One
of them was to be able to increase your theory
feel from about two inches out to about fourteen and
it tends to work. And it's been around in alchemy

(08:54):
and different things forever. And that's monotomic gold, you know,
just different things that you can put together. So people
are like, you have the baby boomers, seventy five million
baby boomers. What are they most interested in? Being younger?
Looking younger? Right, give me cosmetics, give me something. And

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now we get into biohacking. Oh, we're going to call
that stem cells. Where you're going to call that all
kinds of things from crisper technology, cast nine to whatever.
And so that's kind of the current state of affairs.
But I tend to go in the other direction, which
is the internal direction, meaning you can influence your hormonal balance,

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you can influence your oxygen rates, your absorption rates of oxygen, carbon, nitrogen,
all these different things can all be influenced by your
ability to learn to interact with your own self. It's
the best tool in the universe human body, and the
best thing to interact with that is your own consciousness.

(10:02):
As long as it's your own consciousness and there becomes
a problem. It's if I'm talking too much interferre.

Speaker 1 (10:13):
No, I just want to I want to stop before
a minute, because I want to go back to quantum physics.
You had mentioned a couple of times that you had
introduced some ideas to the corrent to put to the
public consciousness before we even really heard about this from
mainstream quantum physics. What are some of the most exciting

(10:34):
things that are coming out now in quantum sciences that
you may have had ideas about in the past, And
is there anything that they haven't gotten to yet that
maybe you have had some theories about already.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yeah. The problem is when you get ahead of people,
you're considered crazy.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 2 (11:04):
So I may have joined those ranks at an early age.
I don't know. I don't know. About twenty five years
ago they came out with in physics that there was
more than three or four dimensions, and not to mention names.
Michio whatever he was, he was standing there with a

(11:25):
bunch of us are staying around, and I said, oh,
he goes they're going to introduce the idea there's eleven dimensions,
And I said, didn't you learn to count any higher
at an early age, and of course that didn't make
me popular, and I'm not supposed to be that way,
but I am occasionally and so so the answer is
dimensionality is first of all, bad language. So when we

(11:50):
change that language to intersection, we get a better idea
what's going on? Right, So a quantum intersection means intersection
of energy or information, and in this case, energy slowed
down is information. Information slowed down is matter. So this
all ties back to like, how do you influence the body?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Right?

Speaker 2 (12:14):
If you can change the energy levels, which we can,
then you can change the information club. So one of
the things in genetics is we have infinite amount of
genes we'll call it. Most of them are what we
call unexpressed. So if there's no energy flowing through that gene,

(12:37):
think of it as a template, then you don't get
that outcome. We carry templates for all kinds of things. Right,
I have brown eyes, some people have green or blue.
That's a template energy information flowing or energy flows through
that template and out the outcome. You look at the outcome.

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So one of the things we do in reality is
don't question outcomes. Right, we're looking at it, so but
we can question, well, what is the information, what's the
energy flowing through that template? Where did it come from
my mom, my dad? Does it come outside of me?
Is it epigenetic in nature? Is it collective consciousness being

(13:23):
an expression of you know, physical size or temperament, or
it just goes on forever, probably more than we have
time to talk about. But if we look at that,
now we have the ability member internal ourselfs using our
own energy that we could influence whether that gene expresses

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or not. Well, this is similar to what they're trying
to do mechanically through the crisper technology and the introduction
of genes from outside to make a change inside us.
And so we have outside the inside, and what I
work on is inside inside like you can, you can
change it yourself. So that's some of the things I

(14:09):
work on and teaching some of this stuff of the well.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
That's probably you know, dangerous information to introduce, because then
we won't be relying on pharmaceuticals and in the medical
industry and Daddy government as much anymore. We can heal ourselves.
So I'm sure that those ideas are a threat to
some people out there.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you know. One of the things
I teach is the concept of a baseline. What's your
baseline and and what that means is like, first of all,
how you or you? That's one of the basic things.
And through a process of calibration or being able to

(14:52):
discern the truth, you can come up with a number
of like how how Randy is Randy? How Chris is Chris?
But we can extend that again. And once you come
up with a what I call it basic truth, you
extend it. So I wrote a little book called why
Wait not published. I just give it to my students.

(15:12):
But baseline, your caloric intake, baseline, your caloric expression, how
much you burn off, and that way you can avoid
a million different diets that are out there. So because
if a diet worked, it works for some people, but

(15:33):
it didn't work for everyone. So that's the subjective nature.
That's why you need to study yourself right, how do
I take in calories? How to burn them?

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Right?

Speaker 2 (15:45):
And then if you want to make changes, you at
least have an idea of something to measure from a baseline, right,
even in your own consciousness. And so back to biohacking,
and everybody wanted to be Hormones have a big effect

(16:05):
on how you operate. You know, we could think of
it as the fuel. It's an additive to whatever fuel
would take out. So the basic human structure operates off auxygen, carbon, glucose,
a couple other things, or gland rescretions. That's it. The

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same thing. You could basically find out where you are
and then what you can do to change that, okay,
without the need of going to things from outside you.
And as an example, one of my martial arts teachers
was in la in the seventies and when he came
to this country, he opened up a healthy store vitamins, supplements,

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and one day he said, I realized a second like
four hundred different supplements in a month, and with realization
comes the truth. He goes, I realized every one of
those supplements and vitamins, and here we go. Pharmaceutical is
everything is written in such a way that you go,
oh my god, I need that. And then you go

(17:16):
around the world. People are operating at let's say a
high efficiency and they're not taking any of that. You know,
It's like the nuet up in Alaska. There's not a
green plant within a thousand miles, yet they have normal
vitamin sea levels and this set and the other. So
there goes all diets out the window. And then the

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same thing is that, well, if you have a metabolic
level like when you're sixteen, let's say, why don't you
have that when you're sixty? And then here we go
into being able to go through things. But again, if
you can't discern the truth of it, then you have
to believe whatever they write down and say, take this,
take that whatever.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
So well, we're yeah, I was just going to say,
we're living in very interesting and encouraging times because this
is being realized by people. So it makes me happy
that people are seeing through this and looking for alternatives
and listening to folks like yourself. So that's that's a
good thing that we're seeing right now. I do want
to go back a minute to what you were saying

(18:21):
about outside possible spiritual influences, that we have to be
cautious of these energies that could possibly affect us that
may not have our best interest in mind.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Oh yeah. There was a third or fourth century Chinese
flos for Wang Po okay, and Wang Po wrote the following,
reality is reality? What do you think about reality and
how you feel about reality? It's not reality, and welcome

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to Facebook and Twitter, and yeah, you're not getting reality,
you're getting how people think about it and how they
feel about it, which is highly entertaining.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Right.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
So one of the things, back to intersections and dimensions.
They started in okay, they got up to eleven and
basically the conversation got dropped after that. In other words,
they came to realize that there's a lot more than eleven,
which is where I was back in the eighties, right,
that there's more going on here. And the problem is,

(19:33):
like in the electromagic spectrum, we occupy such a small
portion of it, both in our interactions and our receptivity.
So it doesn't mean the rest of that spectrum doesn't exist,
but when we go through daily life, most people ignore it.
They ignore the fact that dogs can hear things that

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we can't, or cats can see things we can't, and
so those are realities too, but most people don't participate them.
They don't do things to try to expand their hearing
or their sensitivity in their different senses. And again that's
back to martial arts. We were taught all that. We
were taught hot and cold and you know, up and

(20:18):
down and this that and the other is exercises to
be able to develop strength in those areas. In others
of being able to be more sensitive, well, being more
sensitive is to be more interactive. That's it. So our reality,
in my thinking, represents about thirty percent of actually what

(20:39):
goes on. And I think Jay Wider was talking the
other day about there's a lot more going on around
us than we're aware of. There's a lot more. We'll
call them people, things, entities, aliens, spirit, attachments, non local
consciousness that goes on forever and are influenced by that.

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And so all that we learned together is I will
learn together as the field. And I did an interview
on a book review on Asthminal the other day and
the lady asked me like, well, what's the field? And
I said, well, nobody's really defined it, but I will.
And that is all information, all energy, all information, all

(21:24):
consciousness combined. So well, that opens up everything that comes
to you comes out of the field that you don't
originate it. You just become a contact point, remember the
intersection for that information because it already exists. And that

(21:44):
gets into a whole bunch of things from remote viewing,
the tesla and everybody else, so we just.

Speaker 1 (21:50):
Have like a built in antenna or receiver YE to
access Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
And remember when we were younger, we just local stations,
three of them, and we went off the air at midnight.
And that's not true anymore. And that gets into the
fact that in the nineteen hundreds there was only one

(22:17):
or two electromagnetic influences on a human being outside we'll
call it. That was the sun and maybe we had telegraph.
And so if you look at human evolution, we're not geared.
Like right now, there's about seventy four electromagnetic waves propagating

(22:38):
through the space on the it's a microwave, that's TV,
it's radiant, it's on and on and on. Well, human
beings don't adapt that fast. It takes generations to adapt
to that. And so this continuity that occurs, to withdrawal,
the non participation in those fields that information results in

(23:04):
a certain amount of apathy. And I think that's kind
of what we see around the world. We've been hit
with so much information. And remember in the sixties, information
came from a book or a couple hours of TV,
and now we're trying to up our operating speed. Is

(23:24):
what I call it so right, and there's ways to
do that.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
Yeah, I was about to ask you, let's let's get
into some of those methods.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Well, one of them is kind of like we call
a hierarchical assignment. Is why is that important to you? Okay?
I mean if you take all of Facebook and Twitter
and whatever, all the others, Instagram, whatever, and you look
at that information, you say, why is it important? One

(23:55):
of my favorites, there was a guy that said, a
lot of studied UFOs for twenty five years, and I say,
and I know all these people. It is going on
and on on, and at the end of it, I go,
has that made you a better person? Have you benefited
from that? I know it's given you things to talk
about and relate to people, and you know people don't

(24:17):
use some sort of base level. Does this benefit me? Right,
considering the amount of time I've spent on it, Because
if you spend an hour a day for three years straight,
you're going to be more knowledgeable than the typical PhD
out there on any specific subject. And so four hours
a day of interacting with your iPhone is actually not

(24:42):
going to produce that change, right, It's actually a stagnation.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Is what I call it.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
So if that makes sense, So you can learn all
that through meditation. Martial arts is a better teacher of it.
I've studying talk kung fu for about forty year because
the exercise are meant to develop skills other than physical
and the physical of the non physical, the intuitive, the

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is a much better tool to interact with the world.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
And so those we and those can offer methods that
will counteract these negative frequencies and energies that are surrounding
us and possibly allow us to have access to those
those those frequencies and realms that we can't perceive.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, one of the things to have. Let's say a
baby when they're born has a fifty foot energy field
and by the time you're twenty one year down to
three feet or less depending on your drugs. And I'll
caholing this, that and the other. So doing prodiga, amayoga
and meditative type things, martial arts specifically, you can generate

(25:58):
that bigger energy field. Again. Now, some people are born
with it automatically. We call them charismatics, and people want
to be around them. We call them energy vampires. The
current languages call them followers. So because they want energy
you have that they don't. You have more energy, and
so that's the reason they want to be around you.

(26:22):
You think it's because you're good looking or you know something,
and it's not true. The universe really is an energy universe,
and everything goes on as energy exchange. I call them
energy equations. So to be around somebody, to eat, somebody
eat something, to engage in conversation is an equation and

(26:45):
you will either benefit or be drained by it, plus
or minus. It's the same thing for diet, it's the
same thing for basically everything. Right now, how interactive, Well,
if you can clear a nine foot energy field, you
basically to be unaffected by Cole's flew a whole bunch
of things. Even if you were to participate in that,

(27:08):
you would recover faster than somebody had no energy field
or one foot energy field. So if you had a skill,
having a big energy field out to thirty forty feet
becomes a real game changer. Now, if you control that space,
think of it that way. My consciousness and habits are
in our hold space. Well, that means it's denied to

(27:32):
enter these spirit attachments, demons, gin non local conscience. It
goes on forever and the reason I know it one
of my yoga teachers did a yoga to retreat one
time and he said, I'm going to show you something
and there are four hundred people there and he controlled

(27:53):
the space. And what that meant was everything that was
attached to your parents, your grandparents, any kind of entities
or demons or whatever you want to call it. He
basically held in abeyance abeyance. He held them out of
our field for about a minute to two minutes, and

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it was the most phenomenal thing in the world. It's
literally like being a lower gravity, right. He just felt
like wow, he felt expansive, Okay, And at the end
of the time, he collapsed the field and it was
a pretty day. And immediately there was like a thunderclap
and lightning and hailstorm and everything else as that field

(28:36):
collapsed back in. So quantum physics field collapse. Every moment
represents quantum collapse. And so now we get to a
really important thing. The world is perfect at every given moment.
Quantum physics tells us that by quantum collapse, if it
could have been different, it would have been different. So

(28:56):
it can only go from perfection to perfection. No matter
how much people don't like that idea, okay, but it
does give you back to a baseline. It gives you
a place to start, So at any given point in
your life, you can start. That's the most important thing.
You can start by applying yourself to any kind of

(29:17):
discipline or information or pursuit that will result in not
just you being better. But then I call it not
being a burden on the universe. Is that you then
have the ability to help others.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
So yes, yes, I love it. I want to get
your thoughts on a sort of spiritual I don't want
to say argument, but two different schools of belief. One
is that we are able to access other forms of
life through the universe by space travel and going travel

(29:51):
to planets. The other one is that the real universe
is the innerverse, and it's basically for us to access
through ourselves, and it is the the realms that's around
us at all times that we can't perceive. And I
want to get your thoughts on that is there. Do
you believe that there is life outside of our planet

(30:12):
in the universe in the traditional sense or do you
think it is more of layers and layers of reality?

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Yes, both both when you do remote viewing or what
I call go surfing, the universe, the field you come
across information sets. It gets into set theory and a
book I've been working on for five years called Approximate Reality.

(30:43):
Your reality is very limited. It's you don't exist in Dallas,
Texas at the moment, right, So we want to provide
a benefit to people. Let's say I'm in Oklahoma and
headed Dallas. When I start, let's say ninety nine percent

(31:04):
in oklonma one percent in Dallas. But there's a quantum
switch that occurs at some point along that journey where
I'm basically ninety nine percent in Dallas and only one
percent in Oklahoma, let's say, And that occurs at like
maybe ten or twenty percent into the trip. It didn't
occur like where it flips over and I'm immediately in Dallas.

(31:27):
Does that make sense right? So what happens is my
consciousness has already occupied the space of Dallas, we'll call
it where I'm going. And when I discovered this, I
always play with things. I discovered that one of the
things that happens when you travel, like on a motorcycle, car,
or jet plane, your energy fields streams out behind you,

(31:50):
and when you get to wherever you're going, you have
what's called jet lag. Right, everybody's familiar with it. So
one of the things I discovered is I could pet
my energy field ahead of me, not behind me. Take
it projected ahead of me, go ahead and put it
in Dallas. And when I arrive in Dallas, guess what,
I've just caught up to myself and I have no jetla.

(32:11):
So I fly all over the world. I don't have
jetla right now? How do you do that? It's just
a matter of practicing, thinking about yourself, thinking about your
energy feel and go ahead and place in it somewhere else.
We call it place your consciousness on somebody or something.
That's quantum physics. Because you start having an influence on that,
you start having a presence. And so there's something for

(32:36):
people that fly you can, like I say, try that
and work at it. You'd be surprised. What do you
get to a long trip and you're not tired?

Speaker 1 (32:45):
So now I want to get to some of the
other techniques that you were mentioning. One of them Kundalini yoga.
But something else that caught my ear. You mentioned the
gin and I've heard these entity spoken about a couple
of times on my show from Different and I want
to get your understanding of what these what these are.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Non local consciousness okay, non local member Dallas, it doesn't exist, well,
it exists as an identifier as a location. And this
is where an intersection becomes better information identification than dimension. Okay.

(33:29):
So when you were saying earlier, like are the physical beings, yes,
their physical beings out in the universe. Are there beings
that exist in what we would call a non material universe?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Okay, So the Gin operate in a non material universe.
So does the astral lower astral. Like I said, you
just if you go through the esoteric text, you can
find millions of them. Tiger Spain by sirih Paul Twitchell. Listen,
I think four thousand of them domains, universes, kingdoms, and

(34:07):
we have that language come through us with elves, and
you know all these different the fairies, the little people
in native American language as existing, but they don't exactly
exist in our reality. So this is getting wrapped around
that Dallas doesn't exist unless you're in Dallas. Okay, local reality.

(34:29):
So GIN operate as an operating conscious. Well, if you
exist for one hundreds or thousand years instead of our seventy,
which is restriction, then you might develop the skill to
be interactive, not just in a non material fashion, but
in a material fashion. And of course all those interactions

(34:52):
we have determined as being demonic for the most part,
although we sit around talk about the reciprocal which is angels. Okay. So,
and all of them are described to have certain powers. Well,
power is just the ability to focus energy. When you

(35:14):
can focus energy, if you develop that skill, or if
you become what it called mono minded, then if you die,
you can still you know, knock on wood around, you know,
people you've been related to, or appear as an apparition
or things like that. So an apparition, if we look
at it like a gin, is not exactly physical, but

(35:38):
they're not exactly non physical. What they become is you
become interactive. Okay. So there's people that are more interactive
than others. We call them what do you call it, psychics?
We call them seance people. This has been going on
for a thousand years. It's just that when science came

(35:58):
along and became the new religion, we got rid of
the old religions. We got rid of the old religions
that said that somebody has schizophrenia had entities, right, they
had spirits in them, and there would be like in
the Native American Novajo, have a blessing way, have some
way to get that out of that person, to break

(36:20):
that connection. And I'll put it in modern terms, if
you've ever been married and divorced, you might need to
break that connection.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
So I think that these outside influences that were talking
about earlier, like different harmful frequencies, and not only that,
substances drugs can actually attract some of these entities.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Well, actually what they do is open you up. So
if you look at like a nine foot inter's view
as a sphere, what if it has an opening in it?
What if you've done marijuana, hard drugs, this, that, and
nearly knocked in the head high fevers. All those represent
openings that allow that information or energy to come into you. Okay,
And people like I love things like the atawuasca.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Right.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
It's like when that first started as a craze, I
got calls from London to Europe all over the world
going help. Once you get in and open up something
like that, you don't have the information, energy, education ability
to deal with it. And of course that's one of
the things I was trained in. So I'm able to

(37:27):
help those people that open up a connection. Right, think
about having the ghost in your house. I get rid
of them. I used to have a nice little business
of de ghosts and houses because all it means is
something else is living in that space. Well, now we
go back to a human being. How many things are

(37:49):
living in your space? Right? Are you a many? Me?
Your mom or dad? Right, that's your mom or dad
living in you or through you. And you know, if
you're to be Chris, then I want you to be Chris.
No entities, no spirit, none of the no connections right zero.

(38:10):
And now you're in an energy state where you can say, hey,
I can actually benefit myself. At this point, you can
increase your energy, you can increase your presence of being Chris,
and at that point you're able to influence or connect
with other people in a a much more energetic way.

(38:31):
We'll just say, like I said, the language is trying
to invent the language of the custo when we borrow
culture appropriation, quanta physics. Thanks, right, So.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Would you consider these this is kind of a two
part question. Would you consider these part of what is
considered source or creation or God? And what is your
idea of what source is?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Remember that I use the field definition all information, all energy,
all consciousness when you separate it, and that's a human
thing to pigeonhole, to put a box. As soon as
you identify thing, you have limited the amount of information

(39:22):
available to you about that subject. I know, this gets
really entangled, right. So if you say God, I say
which one there's been presently on the planet. There's about
four thousand and thirty one of them, I think last
sime I checked. Okay, So but everybody knows what they're

(39:45):
talking about. It's just that you can stand to the
next to another person and they do not have the
same exact information. That's order them outs see. So and
of course the last time we talked, that's where I said,
believe is insufficient. Right knowing this as an absolute so

(40:09):
without getting into rock and roll. So so knowing God
would become more important than my God is what I
call it. Right, So, so in.

Speaker 1 (40:21):
A way they are a separation from that energy field.

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, what you're doing is identifying with something outside of you. Again,
one of the one of the language, one of the meditations,
and uh is in Korea, yoga is God and me
and being God are won. So to identify yourself as
God becomes egotistical unless you're running for political office. But uh,

(40:51):
you know it's ah, but it's a way to eliminate
the separation that occurs. And what it gives weight to
is what I call hierarchical dominance, right in this case spiritual.
And so to recognize that which is above you is
what I call arbitrary. It's better language than above is beyond.

(41:17):
So now beyond in which direction, well, direction goes away
and instead we become what we call either inclusive or
exclusive of that information, that person, that identity, those events,
Like I said, it takes a long time to go

(41:38):
through all of it. So when you deal with gods,
the original language was gods were the intersection with humans,
and then there were lords that were above gods, and
then there were kings that were above lords. You see,

(41:59):
so you say God bless you, and they say Lord
bless me, and then you say, King gives me permission
to be blessed. I guess. So you see all this
as remnants throughout our society. Because society has changed where
God played an important part, let's say in the year

(42:20):
oney eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, and then the resonance residence
renaissance became. Things started shifting away from what I call
the non material right.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
So.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
That's where we get our current religion, which is called science,
right right, believe the science, Oh my goodness, yeah, trust?
Well trust means that you're basically lazy. So I look
at it not willing to carere those are some ideas,
and again, what you think of about it and how

(43:00):
you feel about it, it's not reality. The reality of what
I just said is maybe the truth, but it doesn't
require you to have an emotional response or anything. It's
just something that you can play with. And I think
that's one of the things that appears to be lost,
is what I call it such a humor and the
willing to play with an idea, right, And if you

(43:22):
can play with it, you can take it and turn
it around, look it upside down, see, and eventually you
can come to some idea whether or not that was fun.
That's the way I look at it.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
That seems like open discussion and agreeing to disagree is
a lost art.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
You know, yes, yes, remember what you think about it
and how you feel about it. It's not reality. So
so reality can be played with. That's that's what we're
getting at. Can you stand up and become interactive with reality? Well,
here you go with all these spirit shall help people

(44:01):
and telling you you can manifest reality.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
Right.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I was just about to get into what you consider
manifestation while into these realms.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
So basically it's not true. It sounds good, okay, and
pay me four hundred dollars and I'll teach you you
manifest reality. And of course it doesn't happen. And the
reason is in quantum physics. Will get into a very
simple thing. Is what you're trying to manifest or achieve available?

(44:32):
A very simple question. Right, you're in the middle of desert,
I'm going to manifest ice cream. No you're not. It's
unavailable to you. You see what I mean? And that's
just one of the aspects is what I call it
a manifestation, right, is do you have enough energy? Can
you apply that energy as a force, right in order

(44:56):
to shape reality? Well? If you can, first of all,
I'd love to meet you, right, because I've found very
few people that are able to do that. One of
them was a nasty christianistic I mean, this boy was good.
He could literally manifest things, but he did it in

(45:17):
a very specific area, and that was with plants. He
could make plants grow to ten feet tall, you know.
And I've seen this firsthand. So that's an application. If
you see healers, they're I don't think they're really manifesting
so much as they're unmanifesting that which has been given

(45:37):
to you or you participate in. If you have an illness,
then the extra energy allows you to recover faster. So
go back to pharmaceuticals. Let me get this straight. I
take this little bitty pill and this little boil pills
able to basically influence two hundred and fifty pounds of
handsomeness right in a way that makes me healthier. And

(46:03):
so if you just write down those three or four
things I said and and run through it a bunch
of times in your head, and you go, there isn't
any way possible that that's true, right without the participation
of my own consciousness to think I'm going to be better. Okay,
So that is manifesting, Okay, using something outside you as

(46:26):
a catalyst, as an influence and so so then God
serves a purpose, then pharmaceutical to serve a purpose. So
we don't have to demonize all of it when we
understand the relationship. Okay, so right now that does.

Speaker 1 (46:47):
Yeah, now you were mentioning, you know, unfortunately the spiritual
community waters have been muddied a bit by just people
looking for monetary gain or notoriety in things of this
nature and just throwing all kind of weird stuff out there.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Well, one of.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
The things you mentioned earlier was Kundalini yoga, and I
know there's this, of course, a huge woo wu stigma
with yoga in general. And then when you add terms
like cundalini, where a lot of people might not have
a great understanding of what this means, you know it
kind of it may get lost in understanding sometimes between

(47:23):
a lot of people who are trying to understand this.
But what is your understanding of kundalini and in Kundalini yoga?

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Okay? I first started in the early seventies, started teaching
around seventy three or four, and I've taught Kundalini yoga
basically ever since. I used to have for many years,
almost a decade. I taught three times a week. Okay.
The reason I taught it because it worked for me.

(47:55):
That's that's you know, everybody all do this do that?
Remember like the diets. If it worked for you, great,
but it doesn't mean it works for everybody. Okay. So
that's the first thing is there's no perfection and like
doing this as opposed to doing that, there's no cachet

(48:16):
of like, oh I do Kudin yoga, I do a
Yengar yoga, I do Korea yoga. I do you know?
I mean there's dozens literally at yoga. Okay. Kudling yoga
is what we call eight limbs all combined. It's basically
all yogas experienced in one set of exercises or meditations.

(48:37):
So if you spend say two and a half hours
in hatha yoga body postures, Baptiste taught it. There's a
bunch of people that taught hatha yoga. But when you
start applying a focus, a consciousness, a mantra, a breathing pronagyama,

(49:00):
because there's Roger yoga, you combine it, you get a
much different experience. And this is one of the things
I was talking about, Like you're not able to hold
a thought. One of the exercise I give is real simple,
hold one thought for one minute. It's almost impossible unless
you do some sort of meditation or training like that.

(49:23):
And so the idea of any yoga is you overload
all your senses to the point that you withdraw into
the inner cell or into the true self. But here
we go, God, conscious, the whole thing. But it works.
I paint, I make paintings. And somebody made fun of

(49:48):
me one time, like, what are you doing? Well, I
was doing a drawing, a painting, and on my lap,
and I was listening to the radio, watching TV, and
reading a book all at the same time. So what
was I doing? I was overloading my subconscious, overloading my

(50:08):
unconscious to the point that self expression was the only
thing left open for me to move the direction to
move it. We see it in every I'll call them avatars,
but in this case Bock Beethoven, I mean van go whatever.

(50:33):
They become so overloaded. And most people did that through
drugs or alcohol or through psychedelics all through our history. Okay,
and the references are a little bit obscure, but it
was the same thing. It was to free the consciousness
to express itself. And like the book review I did

(50:53):
on Gravity University on asthma, is the biggest crisis or
whatever that affects us today is a lack of imagination
and the willingness to accept somebody else's member a version
of reality. And so if you're really going to be
an avatar to yourself, create your own dang reality, right,

(51:16):
but do it by eliminating the accumulation of programming, influences, mom, dad, everybody.
You're connected to, all of society. And when you do
all that, then we're going to call that paraphysics. That's
my definition of it. It's kind of like a parapsychology,

(51:39):
or the idea that there's things outside of us. Yes,
but if you eliminate all those, you have an expansive
ability and room to express yourself in ways that haven't
been done before. And to me, that is true alchemy.
That is a true changing of the self.

Speaker 3 (51:57):
Right.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
And Kunlin and yoga presents what I call a fast
way to get there, but you can go too fast.
It's like anything else. It's like in kung fu. There's
a deep spirituality in it. It's but you have to
go through six years of physical training for them. Even
start teaching you that they rarely even refer to it.

(52:21):
And my teacher said like, oh, yeah, that's a forty
year program after the six years, and I go, I
didn't know I signed up for that. But three of
my teachers in LA when they I met with them
when they I was fifty years old, and one of
them reached ome. Pamela Shoulders said, we're proud of you.

(52:42):
You're better than we were at fifty. And so sometimes
I say, what's your credentials? I go, right there, that's
my credentials. You seeing me that I persevere for that
length of time to be able to explore the martial
arts in a way that included spiritual life reality. I mean,

(53:03):
on and on and on, because once you develop the
skill set of being yourself, then the whole world is
open to you.

Speaker 1 (53:10):
Okay, so you said that you can go too fast
with Kundalini yoga. Now I've heard that people who have
had an experience with something that they call kundalin energy
have had serious injurgy injuries because they had kind of
unlocked this and experienced this when they weren't ready. Could

(53:33):
you talk about what how does that happen and what
exactly is this energy and how does it manifest?

Speaker 2 (53:40):
Okay, you are an intersection of ever how many dimensions,
interactions whatever you want them. Right, if you take all that,
one of the things that kundling yoga does that other
yogas don't do except creat yoga and a lot. There's
some sick martial arts stuff that teach it also, and

(54:02):
that is you develop your nervous system. So if you
take a human being and say, well, they operate off
of certain voltage, we'll just pick a number thirty six bolts.
Let's say alonger spine. Well, what if you had fifty
voltes or one hundred volts. Well, it's like a magnet.
As the energy spirals up, it creates an interview. We

(54:24):
know that that's standard science. And so the more energy
you generate a longer spine, the more rotation you get
in the bigger field you get. So that's what a
person has forty fifty foot energy field now or one
hundred feet. You can't have one hundred and four hundred.
It just keeps you on. So if you don't have

(54:47):
the nervous system, you won't be able to handle the
energy club. Now, historically we call that people that went
into a trance state or fell down or went into
screaming fits or whatever because the energy and flow was
too much. Okay. So Kinley Yoga Crea Yoga developed the

(55:08):
nervous system to be able to handle an additional voltage. Okay.
And that's one of the things that happened to me
when I was about thirty five, is that I studied
it and learned a way to expand the amount of
energy I could flow through myself and even to flow
around me even a much greater Well, that energy becomes

(55:30):
available to other people when.

Speaker 3 (55:31):
I work on them.

Speaker 2 (55:32):
Okay. But if you don't have the nervous system handle
the energy flow, think about you just overloaded the wiring. Okay.
So that's what they call a kindelin a rising experience.
In the seventies, I used to get calls from all
of the world. People would get in trouble, and they
knew I could fix it because I could learn to
dampen down that energy in another person, just like you

(55:54):
can learn to increase it in another person. Okay. So
back to at the Alaska, it's the same thing. What
if you opened up a channel of information that you
are not prepared to deal with so that it becomes
you forced it, and anytime you force something, there's going
to be a consequence. We say, okay, so there is

(56:18):
a certain amount of contemplation before you engage in any
kind of psychedelics or any kind of martial arts or anything.
It's like, let me try this on, but don't let
me be a finante. Can go away it, you know,
like I did, you know, because I would do it
and sometimes I'd pass out for three or four hours

(56:41):
straight after one of the classes because I had to reintegrate.
So all experiences integration, synchronization, congruency, integration congruency. So all
experiences have to go through that cycle and through that
process for you to benefit from that experience.

Speaker 1 (57:01):
Okay, Now, when you're doing energy work on people, could
you tell us about some of the techniques and method
you're doing and what is actually occurring during your sessions.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
Science loves anacdotal information, not so, and yet if you
get right down to it, that's all we have. Only
have the experiences I've had, Okay, and well those are anacdotal.
They're non scientific, yes, what's your point, right? Because they
represent life. They don't fall under the idea of science. Right,

(57:37):
they're they're non repeatable. Okay, the kiss of your first
girlfriend or whatever, it's non repeatable, Okay, it doesn't mean
it didn't happen. Doesn't mean there wasn't some hormonal shift
and this, that and the other. Current. So one day

(57:58):
I decided I would teach a class in this. And
I've done that over the years, and I've found out
that basically, there are very few people interested in what
I call healing. Others they may say they do, but
it's actually a job. It's actually something you have to
work at. And so as soon as it becomes work,
same thing as spirituality, it's like it becomes work, conscience

(58:23):
becomes work, and it's like, can't you give me a pill?
And of course then comes the perversion. Yoga with goats,
yoga with beer, Yoga. I mean, it was considered a
spiritual science. I'm getting ready to do a book review
on yoga, Honda, but an autobiography of yoga. But anyway

(58:48):
to your question, one day I decided to teach a
class in it. I asked if people were interested, and
they were about fourteen people that were interested in the class.
So when a Tuesday night show up and we'll go
through all this. And one of them was an eight
year old and she had told her mother that she

(59:10):
was coming to my yoga classes. I don't even remember
how she found out, but I heard her mother somebody
talking about it, and so she said, I'm coming to
the you know, learning how to heal class?

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Right.

Speaker 2 (59:23):
I call it creative energetic health because it's creative and
it's energetic, and those are the two requirements if you're
going to create reality, by the way, and imagination deals
with that. Anyway to get back to it a ligne,
everybody up and I said, okay, who has a problem.
Who has a pain in their body? And one of

(59:45):
the ladies goes with my knee hurts. And so I
turned to one of the other people and go fix it.
And they go, how do I do that? And I go,
any way you want to? You see what I mean?
Remember that we're limited only by imagination and by authority
that have told us we can't do things right. And
if you don't know, you can't do it. Back to

(01:00:07):
Tesla and everybody else, you'd be surprised at what all
you can do, what all effect you can have.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:15):
I told the person is like there has to be
a kinetic action. Like if I have a thought about
somebody and I reach over and call them on the phone,
that's a kinetic action. That's one of the things I
went through with doctor Bill Tiller is that you can
affect things in a long distance way as long as
there's a kinetic movement that is involved in it. And
that gets into a hole long thing about why that's true.

(01:00:37):
But so I said, you can raise your hand, you
can weigh, you can throw it away, you can I
don't care what you do, right, but do it without touching.

Speaker 3 (01:00:47):
And so.

Speaker 2 (01:00:50):
The person that was doing the healing wave their hands
around and then I said, how's your knee feeling? And
she goes, it feels different, right? So why because all
energy is interactive, that's it. All thoughts energy interactive. So
we went around and somebody said, well, what about genetics,

(01:01:11):
And I said, well, genetics is just energy flowing through
a template, so you should be able to change it.
And so they said what do you mean. I said, well,
I have brown eyes, and so I turned to the
eight year old and I said, change my eyes to green, right,
And everybody's sitting around a table, and so she sat

(01:01:31):
up straight, took one deep breath, and everybody moved back
from the table like this, because we're sensitive to that
kind of energy. We're sensitive to that expansion of our
energy field to include access to the field and access
to more information energy we ever thought possible. She changed

(01:01:53):
my eye color to green, opened my eyes, and everybody went, WHOA, Right,
now there's a trick. I'm an artist. It totally shifted
how I saw colors in the room. I mean, so
I knew that there had to be a physical difference
going on because of the shifts, right, And I'm very

(01:02:14):
sense of the color shifts, right, so as an artist,
and then I was praying, I said, now change them back.
So so you know, it's like play with this stuff,
but you know, you ask permission and you want to
make sure.

Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
That brings me to how harmful can others energies and
intentions be towards ours? And how much can it affect
our reality?

Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
Like a lot or not? Crazy you got a lot
or not. The more you're yourself, the less you're influenced
by it. Think about people trying to get the vote
for somebody that's like no, right or yes, but you
like in this I was open to it. I had

(01:03:02):
stated my intention, they were able to make the shift.
How did they do it? I don't know. I had
my eyes closed. Later that she just waved her hand right.
And so the main thing is she had never been
told she couldn't do it. Okay, So we can alter

(01:03:23):
gene expression doesn't have to be through a Crisper cast
nine machine. Okay. And I have seen it and done
it upon occasion, but I cannot say I've done it
every time because we have what we call momentum in
her life, and we have caramel, we have connections, we
have equations, this language I use. Okay. Now another one

(01:03:48):
came to class again, a young one, and she said,
I want to learn what you do. And I said, okay,
just sit here after class and I'll tell you a
few things. I says, what's going on? She said her
grandmother had a high blood pressure, and I go, look,
just find her blood pressure and then when you find it,

(01:04:08):
just lower it right, very simple. So way she goes.
She comes back and goes I did that. I said, congratulations.
Now her grandmother goes in the hospital for high blood
pressure and the doctor comes in and goes, it's like
one eighty one ninety whatever, blah blah blah, and he
goes out the door. The little girl goes, her grandmother

(01:04:31):
lowers it down. The doctor comes back in and goes,
it's perfectly normal. He goes, I don't understand it. A
little girl goes and he goes, don't do that. Do
you see what I mean?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
Don't do that?

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
Oh man, Children's hospital. I had a one of my clients,
five year old, all kinds of genetic problems, and she
was in there with her heart rate would go way
up and this, that and the other. And I walked in,
walked over to her bad heart rate twelve.

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
The doctors come in, took one look and walk away.
And I always like Children's Hospital in Coome City. I said,
I did that, and they go, we want to talk
to you, and I go, here's my phone number. Next day,
we don't want to talk to you. Don't ever call
us again. Right, Yes, what's funny about it? Nationally in
is pseud of health, same thing CDC, same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:05:24):
I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:24):
I've been interviewed and asked questions and then all of
a sudden they don't want anything to do with me.
Because everybody has the ability to influence their own health
and well being to some degree, and that some degree
becomes that part of you know, if it's available. And
all these people telling you you can do all this
stuff is not true unless you can. And so everybody

(01:05:50):
can practice something. And that's why I don't limit it
to just yoga. You can study reka, you can study
occupying anything that involves the energetics of the humian body.
You can study in a way that allows you to
influence yourself. And if you can influence yourself, you can
influence others. Excuse me, in a positive way.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
So right on, one hundred percent, man, that's a perfect
note to end on, Randy. This was fantastic for the
audience that is interested in finding out more about you.
And if you have anything interesting that you're working on,
go ahead and let us know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Okay, yeah, these are things that occupy. It's interesting people
come to me for help and mental, physical, emotional, spiritual,
psychic all that and it all has a universal basis,
and that is energy, information, and consciousness. And when you
combine those in yourself, you have the greatest ability to

(01:06:50):
influence the universe, yourself, your family, your work, and the
only factor is what we call a limitation of the
Magic Nation and so so everybody i'd encourage read science fiction,
but I'm on the internet, YouTube and all this stuff.

(01:07:12):
Randy Beidenheimer Energy Doctor Spell with a K is another one,
creative energetic health. It's just a very simple idea that
through imagination, creativity and energy you make changes and that
is true manifestation or whatever. So and get busy. In

(01:07:36):
forty years you can be really good.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Hey, there you go, something to look forward to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
Randy.

Speaker 1 (01:07:41):
This was fantastic, yeah, man, And we'll have to definitely
do this sooner again in the future. Until next time,
everyone have an excellent evening and we will talk again tomorrow.
We'll see y'all all. Then, today, I want to welcome
back to the show Craig Campebaso. He is a multiple
award winning film and Emmy nominated casting director. He was

(01:08:03):
fifteen when he started in the entertainment business. He directed, wrote,
and produced the short film Stranger at the Pentagon, which
was adapted from the popular UFO book authored by the
late doctor Frank E. Strangers. Today, we're going to be
discussing his latest book, the UFO Hotspot Compendium. Craig, welcome back.

(01:08:24):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:08:26):
I'm good. How you doing, I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:08:27):
Excellent, man. It's always great to talk with you. You're always
busy with wonderful projects. I'm looking forward to getting into
this new book, the UFO Hotspot Compendium. And You've been
involved with you ufology for a very long time. We
always discuss your insights into the phenomenon when you come on,
and I have to admit my understanding of UFOs and

(01:08:49):
ufology has dramatically changed even probably since we last spoke.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
You know that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Being said, he'll probably most likely change even more as
time passes, and I keep gaining better understanding by sharing
information with wonderful researchers like yourself. Now, there's a lot
I want to get into, but first just remind the
audience a little bit about yourself and what led you
to write this particular book.

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
Well, I've been in the film business ever since I
was fifteen, so I've always loved that part of it.
And when I was twenty six years old, I had
a major spiritual awakening that sort of like made me
look out into the universe where I'd never looked before,

(01:09:34):
never thought about extraterrestrials, never thought about that stuff. So
I started doing deep dives into lots of books and
going to lectures and UFO conferences and hearing stories from
real contactees and meeting a lot of these people. And
then I started going on investigations and seeing things and

(01:10:01):
seeing craft and all of that. And I realize that
if somebody wants to see something enough, if you put
yourself out there, you will see it. Right. So I
literally have gone the gamut and have been doing all

(01:10:24):
of this for well over thirty years, and I'm an
author of seven books. I have a four part book
series called The Autobiography of an Extraterrestrial Saga, and so
that's what kind of got me into writing, and that
was catapulted from my spiritual awakening and bringing in all

(01:10:49):
the information that was really out there in the universe
and connecting to all of those energies and outlining it
in that book, especially talking about star seeds and how
they raise younger worlds up into the universal society for

(01:11:10):
those for those planetary beings to become fully conscious. So
we're a dualistic race, of course, and so they've learned
how to use their heart and mind as one, and
so they work for service to humanity and the rest

(01:11:31):
of us, you know, a lot of us down here
work for service to self and other things. That's not
so bad, only when you do it in a very
bad way, that's going to harm other people as well.
So it's really these incredible consciousness raising programs. And my
book agent came to me and said, I got a
great idea for a book, the Extraterrestrial Species Almanac, and

(01:11:58):
that's the cover of it there. And I said, oh
my god, I could totally write that book because one
of the things that I've always researched is all of
the contactes who we have, especially having face to face

(01:12:19):
contact with human extraterrestrials, and to me that was so fascinating,
especially a lot in the early fifties and sixties, so
I knew a lot about those cases, and some were
conversing with beings that didn't look like us, that maybe
they were humanoid, but they might have had a look

(01:12:42):
of an animal or something of that nature. Like the
jargons kind of resemble humans, but they also resemble seals
in a way because they have that kind of skin
a little bit in their face. Of course, we all
know about reptilians, grays, all of that good and bad

(01:13:05):
just like in humans. And so I knew right where
to go to all the source material, and so I
was able to obtain permission from the publishers of these
books to actually do a thumbnail review because that's what

(01:13:26):
the publisher wanted of these specific races, right, And so
the book did extremely well. It was released January first
of last year, still going like gangbusters, and then they
wanted me to write a new book, which is the

(01:13:47):
UFO Hotspot Compendium, All the Places to visit before you
die or are abducted.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
Now, I just have to ask you when you say
they wanted to who is is this your publishers? The publishers,
and is there any specific reasons that they choose these
particular topics. Is it something that the publisher is interested
in particularly?

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Well, there's three publishers. There's the big publisher, which is
Red Wheel Wiser. There's the intermediate which are book agents
as well, but they also have their own thing and
they broke her the deal between Moufon and Red Wheel. Right,

(01:14:34):
so Mofon has an imprint with Red Wheel and I
have two books with Moufon Books. And then there's several
other authors. I think there's a total now of eight
books with Moufon, some by Jlen Heinek. That makes w
They revamped, Kathleen Martin's book Captured has just been revamped.

(01:14:57):
They have other books that are also there, very exciting.
So they kind of come up with the ideas and
they brought it to me and I said, wow, that's
really great. So what they did was is they the
head of MOFON, sent out to all the MOFON state
directors to nominate their favorite UFO hotspots and which ones

(01:15:21):
were were the ones that garnered the most sightings and
things like that. So I got a giant compilation and
we only focused on the US and Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
Right, sure, that's plenty enough to focus on for a Book's.

Speaker 3 (01:15:37):
Totally enough to focus on for a book. And so
I went through all of that and then compiled which
ones I really really wanted to focus on, mainly to
do the larger story because it was kind of like
reopening each case to do a deeper dive into what

(01:16:04):
the normal person would have no idea about certain places. So,
for instance, the first chapters on Giant Rock and the
Integratron in the early days where George van Tassel ran
the Giant Rock Airport right, and he moved out there

(01:16:28):
because he wanted to have a more metaphysical lifestyle. So
he took over from the former guy who had passed
away who was running the airport, who dynamited under Giant
Rock and built his home underneath the rock. So there's
actual pictures that I was able to get from the

(01:16:49):
Integratron archives to put in there, and also worked with
the historian of Giant Rock as well, and so you
get to learn all about that because a lot of
people I didn't know. I was just fascinating with that
whole story because George began channeling extraterrestrial beings in the

(01:17:09):
early fifties beneath Giant Rock, and I knew two people
who were with him during that time. One just passed
away a couple of years ago and the other one
is still alive. So I had real live witnesses who
were there and who knew George throughout his entire lifetime.

(01:17:30):
Then in fifty three, a craft landed in the middle
of the night and an extraterrestrial being named Saulgonda came
out and met with George and said, would you like
to see my ship? Of course, George was fascinated with
the way things flew because he had worked for Howard

(01:17:51):
Hughes Douglas Aircraft and one other place before, and so
he was very excited to go on the craft. And
he describes what the inside of the craft looked like.
Interestingly enough, and all of the archives and all of

(01:18:15):
the on air footage and things that he did, he
never said in one sitting what Slgonda looked like, So
in listening to everything, one time he would say, yes,
he was five six, his crew members were five to six,
and then another time he had short blonde hair, he

(01:18:39):
had tan skin, he wore a silver uniform. So I
took all the components and I had an artist create
Selgonda because we don't have any artists impersonations of Slgonda,
and I put it in the books so people could
see what possibly he could have looked like, which is
kind of cool. So it was working with historians and

(01:19:04):
also working with mof on investigators past and present, and
also digging into blue book files of what we could
get to say what was the actual outcome of that,

(01:19:26):
of that come of that complete story. For instance, Aloni
Zamora story where the policeman, you know, he ends up
seeing this this thing go down and he drives into
the desert. He doesn't know what it is. There's a
round sort of oval craft and these two little beings

(01:19:47):
and he gets closer and he realizes that they're not
from here, and he totally flips out. Now, there were
so many investigations that went into that, including Jay Ellen, Heineck,
et cetera. That the end conclusion was that nobody could
prove or disprove what he saw and so but they

(01:20:15):
all said that he was an earnest man and that
they believed him right. Not the Blue Book report, but
Jail and Heineck, all of the people who went and
did a deep dumpster dive there. Now, I worked with
two former MOUF on the guys who really went deep

(01:20:38):
into this story recently and have put out a book
that's on Amazon. So what's really great, what you guys
are going to love about this book is that at
the end of each chapter, like you will get the
coordinates to exactly where that ship landed if you wanted

(01:21:01):
to go to the site. Right In the Travis Walton story,
you get the coordinates. In the Georgia Damskis story, you
get the coordinates to right where he met Orthon. There's
the coordinates to where Valiant Thor ship is stationed at
Lake Meads, so you will get the cordinates, but you

(01:21:22):
also we end with what was the final investigation, past
and current, and then we go into the things when
you're visiting the area, like the contact information address, websites,
phone numbers, all that good stuff, and I just won't

(01:21:46):
make sure I'm not forgetting anything. And then I do
a really fun thing for the UFO tourist at the
end of the book where you can get all kinds
of alien goodies, rent spaceships, all kinds of like strange
things you would know ever think of. And then I
in the book with all the conventions and festivals for UFOs,

(01:22:07):
where to report a UFO abduction, and support groups, where
to find current UFO info, the reports and photographs and
things of that nature. So that's what I love is
that you get to go and experience it. It's like

(01:22:27):
taking a bucket list. I already had one fan holding
the book up and he sent me a video and
he's like, Dude, I'm going to every one of these
places and I'm going to post it on Instagram and
I'm like, that is so amazing. Yeah, that is like,

(01:22:48):
so there's thirty five places and you get to see
what you can do. And you know, even in the
Betty and Barney Hill case there there's accordinance to actually
where the craft landed and all of that. But things
that I didn't even know that would interest me is

(01:23:08):
if you were there and visiting, you could go to
the local university and see Betty's dress that she wore.
She donated everything to the university. They have the bust
of Junior there that she had made. Who was the leader, right,
He looked different than the regular gray looking guys that

(01:23:30):
were on the craft. He had sort of gecko eyes.
He had blue skin that had an aluminum tint, and
it was bumpy, and so Betty really really liked this
leader as well. So you get all those stories and

(01:23:53):
you get photographs and all of the excitement that goes
along with it. It's like you could take your own
bucket list trip if you wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
All right, and did you were you able to interview
direct witnesses from each of the areas that you explored,
not necessarily you know, professional investigators or anything, but just
regular people who had seen sightings.

Speaker 3 (01:24:19):
Well, one of those people is me, and the first
one is when I was in Sedona. I always take
night vision binoculars. I always see craft with that because
it's way up high. And if you're in Sedona, I
also give you the local people who will take you

(01:24:41):
out on tours with night vision binoculars. Right, you could
go to the Bradshaw Ranch, you could go to a
viewing point. The person I have in the book has
six night vision binoculars, so you can go out in
groups and each person has their own. But also once

(01:25:02):
I was traveling towards bell Rock, going to bell Rock
and coming from Bell Rock, was a giant metallic orb
this big, and it was going like this and I
couldn't believe my eyes. I'm driving. I fumbled for my
phone and I snapped a few pictures and I got it.

(01:25:24):
So it's actually in the book as well. And yes,
one of the witnesses from Giant Rock in the early days.
I have asked her millions of questions over all the
years and all the things, since she was really good

(01:25:45):
friends with George and the Bradshaw Ranch. For instance, I
have heard of this place. It's in Verdie Valley. It's
outside of Sedona, and Bob Bradshaw was a cowboy and

(01:26:06):
way in the early days, he bought one hundred and
forty acres of land in the middle of nowhere, and
there was a little homesteaded house on that property, said
to be the oldest home in Sedona, right, And so
he built his ranch his home there, and when his

(01:26:28):
boys were young, they used to take people out and
they would give him tours of the brush and all
that kind of stuff. And then later in life, when
he remarried his wife, his wife, Linda and her son
moved into the ranch. Her son was in his twenties.
And my friend was working at the ranch at that time,

(01:26:53):
and they were just starting to do shows like rodeo shows,
cowboy shows, you know, shoot them up, all kinds of
different things like that. And my friend worked there, and
I have heard her stories for all these years, and
she said, with the first night we did a covered

(01:27:15):
wagon rodeo show, she said, a flying saucer flew right
over us, like low wow. And she said it was
like so amazing. And she said the energy there was
so different that you didn't want to be there at night.
She said, I made sure I always left so I

(01:27:38):
would have enough time to get out of there before nighttime. Right,
So so I'm going to just give you a little
laundry list of the things that happen at the Bradshaw.

Speaker 1 (01:27:50):
Yeah. Well, this is one of the craziest UFO locations ever.

Speaker 3 (01:27:54):
It is now. I worked with local researcher Tom Dung,
who has a wonderful book out about it. Oh that's
what I was saying. So at the end of each chapter,
like I tell you the name of Tom Dongo's book
in case you want to get it right, I tell
you the name of all the research material at the

(01:28:19):
end of each chapter under sources, and like even the
Pasca Goula incident, all of those things you get the
actual name of the book. So if you're really fascinated
in that story, you can go online and you can
buy it and read more about that story. But so

(01:28:40):
the Branshaw Ranch the laundry list. Is this. A spaceship
landed in broad daylight in front of the ranch. Another
time at night, grays were wandering around the property looking
in the windows and they saw them right. Another time,

(01:29:03):
their dogs were barking at something outside repeatedly and crazily,
and they went outside and they were barking looking up
at something had it surrounded And when they got outside,
all they heard was really loud, horrific hissing, and it

(01:29:23):
freaked them out. So they got the dogs inside, and
the next morning when they went outside, they found reptilian
footprints where they were right, so evidently it was clucked.
Now you have to realize Sedona is a giant vortex.
There is quartz crystal embedded in everything there. And when

(01:29:46):
this court works alongside of with this red rock right,
and it has like a lot of iron ore and
things in it, it makes these electrical charges which create
a vort tex. Like Bell Rock is one of the
most powerful psychic vortexes. Right. Cathedral Rock is sort of

(01:30:08):
a yinin Yang vortex male and female Airport Mesa is
also a very good, nice uplifting vortex as beautiful views,
and there's more vortex areas as well. But out there

(01:30:30):
in this Verde valley you can feel the dimensions peeling
away when you're walking. The very first time I went,
I went with my friend who worked there. She said, oh,
I got to just take you out there, and we
didn't have a four wheel drive, so you can only
drive in the dirt so far. Then you have to
leave your car there and you have to hike in

(01:30:52):
about forty minutes right, And as you're walking, it's like
a wash that's maybe as wide as your hands or wider,
with all kinds of trees and brush, And as you're
walking down there, you can just feel dimensions and things
opening up. Everything in my body told me to turn

(01:31:13):
around and run home. That's what I was feeling. And
when we got there, I was just so uncomfortable, right,
and so I was really happy to get out of there.
It's not like we saw anything or whatever. But then
years later, I a few years ago, I went back

(01:31:36):
with some friends. We actually rented a jeep and went
back there, and we went with one of the local
historians as well, who gives night vision binocular not classes,
but you know, go out and night watch, and she

(01:31:57):
knew a lot of stuff. But I always learned a
lot of stuff from my friend who was there. But
you can literally see that things are happening there without
seeing them. It's like you feel them, you experience them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:15):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:16):
When Linda was there with her son, if they took
the video camera and film things. Sometimes they were filming
into another dimension and they caught things that were not
where the camera is. It's really strange. There's even things
today where people hold up a piece of glass and

(01:32:39):
they can see a ship in the sky, and they
pull it down they can't see it. It's the same
with a cell phone. If you hold a cell phone up,
if something's there, you'll see it. But back then they
didn't have cell phone, so what they had was a
regular camera and a video the old VHS video camera.

(01:33:00):
So what they caught was in one thing, they caught
a dinosaur, right. And another time they caught a creature.
And now I forget what that creature looks like, but
it's described in Tom's book The Sun did. When he
was driving down that that wash that I was telling
you about, that's where he saw that creature in the

(01:33:22):
middle of the night. He said, it just stopped and
stood and looked at him. He looked at it and
it went on right. And another time they filmed telephone
poles that weren't there. There were telephone poles, and there
were pigs. Now Sedona doesn't have pigs. What they have

(01:33:44):
is have Alina's. They have a Lina's Room wild and
come out in the middle of the night, right, so
they kind of looked like a little bore, right, like
a little boar, but they're not They didn't have pink pigs,
and they're in some of these things now. One of
the other ones was very fascinating because what they saw

(01:34:06):
was on albino sasquatch.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
I've heard of these, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:13):
Yeah, and a flying saucer above it. And Linda began
finding bigfoot footprints around the corrals, so she knew that
there was one in the area, and she would bring
out plates of food of vegetables and fruit and put

(01:34:37):
it on the top of the fence where the corows
were for whoever the sasquatch was. And in the morning
she found all the food was eaten. It was still there,
and then there were sticks and stones, which was bigfoot
gifting back yea. And she started finding white hairs on

(01:35:00):
her pregnant mare's stomach, right, and then she one time
she was so she kept feeding her every night she
fed her and she realized she was a her because
she had laid down in the dirt on her side
to make a body imprint to show that she was pregnant. Wow,

(01:35:25):
and then so so she called her Big Girl is
what she called her. She ended up naming her Big Girl,
and they got her on camera with this thing in
another dimension. Right, So it was really fascinating. Now. Tom Dongo,

(01:35:51):
the UFO researcher there in Sedona, he called her and said,
be very aware of your mayor's pregnancy because either grays
or reptilians are stealing the fetuses of mares on other
horse ranches. Right. And she believed that Big Girl was

(01:36:15):
protecting her may pregnant mayor from the grayser reptilians. And
we know that they were on that property because they
experienced seeing them with their eyes and hearing the reptilians
and seeing the reptilian footprints.

Speaker 1 (01:36:33):
Now do you know as far as the video and
pictures they got, if those like are available for anyone
in the audience to go okay?

Speaker 3 (01:36:39):
I totally tried to get that. The you know, Linda
has passed away, Bob has passed away, the ranch has
been dilapidated for a very long time.

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Speaker 3 (01:38:00):
A lot of them when it was over, except for Linda,
they didn't really want anything to do with it anymore.
From what I hear from my friend who worked there.
It was just too much for a lot of them.
And I know the Sun experienced missing time, and you

(01:38:21):
know he would go hiking and would experience missing time
as well. Now also on that property, people experience missing
time by the windmill, and even some reporters that have
gone there over the years, they experienced a couple of
hours of missing time there and so and then there

(01:38:45):
is a alligator tree, which I have a picture of
in the book, that is between the ranch and the
homestead because they're very close together. Is it's called the
alligator tree because it's bark looks like alligator skin. And
Linda said that was a portal and that negative and

(01:39:06):
positive entities came through there. And she said when the
negative ones came through, bad things happened on the ranch
all the time, and when the good ones came through,
good things happened. And she really think the good ones
were coming through to protect them as well. So that
is one fascinating place, it is.

Speaker 1 (01:39:28):
And before we move on from the branch, I wasn't
there a supposedly an alien that was captured or killed
with like a sword or something like along those lines.
I barely remember the exact details of this, but again
we were never able to get any evidence of it
or anything. Are you familiar with that?

Speaker 3 (01:39:48):
I am. You're talking about the Stardust Ranch.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
Oh, Okay, this is a different one.

Speaker 3 (01:39:51):
Okay, that's a different ranch. That's the Stardust Ranch. And
John Edmonds passed away earlier this year, so I'm pretty
sure that maybe that ranch now has changed hands. So
I sent of two of my little investigators over to

(01:40:13):
the Stardus Ranch. I did not want to go to
that little evil place. I was like, nope, I'm not
going there. So two of my associates went. And it's
not open to the public because it's private property. But
they made a nice, hefty donation towards his horse rescue,

(01:40:36):
and so he allowed them to come in and visit
with him and sit in the living room. Now, I
watched Ghost Adventures when they were there and they did
their thing. I had watched that episode and it was
kind of, you know, it was pretty scary. It was
pretty dark, and I I don't have the exact number,

(01:41:02):
but I remember reading in the book that it was
something like every forty two days something like that is
when the aliens would appear through the portal. It was
like a cycle where they would come through. And so
he knew when they were going to come through, and

(01:41:24):
he said that he had killed several of them, right,
And I can't remember the exact a man, let me
see if I've got it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
It's one of those that is so so crazy and
so out there that and especially when you can't you
know if he's killed him. I would think you would,
you know, immediately have some proof or hide a body somewhere,
you know, keep it or you know exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:41:54):
So it called into question from a lot of investigators
and everyone that he, you know, his ranch was really
worth like at most a half a million dollars. It's
just property with an old, dilapidated house, right, I mean

(01:42:14):
this house is really old. It hadn't been painted in years.
Everything is dark and dingy. And so when all of
a sudden this alien thing happened, he put it up
on the market. It was either five or six million dollars,
hoping that somebody like a big a low or somebody

(01:42:38):
with a lot of money would come and buy it.
But nobody. Everybody said, we're not falling for it because
we believe that you're lying. Right, but you there's not
a lot of in depth stuff but that goes on
there that that has the proof. But but if it

(01:43:00):
was true, I mean, we don't know, We honestly don't know.
Because when my two people were there and they were
sitting in the living room, they said, you have the
hebe gbs so bad when you're in there that again,
everything's telling you get off this property, get off this property,
get off this property. They said it was so dark.

(01:43:22):
But they said where the fireplace was, it was like
the breath and breathing of an evil entity or entities,
and that it was horrifically dark. Right, so they wanted
to really get out, and they said, now outside, some

(01:43:44):
of the places on the property felt normal, but way
in the back of the property it felt also abnormal.
It didn't feel right. Yeah, as well, So this is
a again one of those places that you can't visit

(01:44:05):
unless somebody buys it and opens it up to investigations,
right or from what my friend said who were there,
there's something dark and evil there for sure, right now.
The cycling of a portal is an interesting idea, right.

(01:44:32):
We know that when portals are created, usually you can
just come and go and come and go, untell some
being who has the power to close it closes it, right,
But a cycle portal I had never heard of, and
I found that to be interesting. So I can't remember
what he said when he decapidated them they vanished or

(01:44:56):
something like that, but if they were real, I would
really think that a body would be there.

Speaker 1 (01:45:04):
Right right, right, So yeah, that's a super interesting story,
and that's.

Speaker 2 (01:45:10):
What you know.

Speaker 1 (01:45:10):
That's what I love doing on this show, is opening
stuff like this up for discussion because who knows, you know,
we don't have the proof either way, So it's a
it's a perfectly it's a great thing to discuss this stuff,
to get people a little insights into it. Now, I
want to get into some of the some of your
favorite places discussed in the book. Maybe you could name
off a few of them all.

Speaker 3 (01:45:31):
Well, so it is, I was right. I have my
notes right here. Aliens appeared every forty two days, like
on a portal timetable. And he has said that Sance
he moved in in nineteen ninety five, he had killed
nineteen of them.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Wow, that's a lot of aliens to have nobody a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:45:55):
That's a lot. But I don't know. But see, here's
the thing. If I would have seen that first one,
i'd have moved.

Speaker 1 (01:46:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:46:04):
I wouldn't have stayed there. I would have been out
of there and then tried to sell it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:10):
I might have been setting traps for him, knowing myself
I had a home alone situation for him.

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
Yeah, well that's you know. That is Another thing to
do is set up camera, set up all kinds of
things like that and then just leave the property and
to see what happens. Yeah, so so some of us,
So you want to know some of my favorite ones.

Speaker 1 (01:46:34):
Yeah, some of some of your favorite spots that you
get into in the book.

Speaker 3 (01:46:38):
Well, my favorite of all time, the which we already
talked a little bit about, is Giant Rock and the Integratron,
just because it is some of the most amazing information
people will read about.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
Well for forlis that may not be familiar, maybe you
could give them an overview of what's what's going on there.

Speaker 3 (01:47:01):
Sure, So, after George van Tassel had that late night
meeting with Salgonda, he gave him the blueprints to build
a rejuvenation machine called the Integratron, and he told him
where to build It's it's less than three it's about

(01:47:24):
three to five minutes by car away from Giant Rock.
And because there was a large cachet of Courtz crystal
way down beneath in the ground, right, And so George
had to raise money to build this machine, and so

(01:47:44):
Howard Hughes gave him twenty grand to start. And so
he decided to start having UFO conventions where he would
bring contactees and they would talk to groups. Now again,
back then it was snail mail and phone calling and

(01:48:08):
word of mouth. So as the years went on, it
grew bigger and bigger and bigger. I actually have a
VHS tape that was taken when it was in its heyday,
when there were ten thousand people out at Giant Rock.

(01:48:28):
They all went out with their campers, their cars, their trucks,
their whatever, you know, and George would get up, he
would talk a little bit about his experience, and then
there would be other other researchers. There would be people

(01:48:49):
Georgia Damski was there, and many others who were these
early contact these who were having contact with human from
other worlds that lived on the interior of their world right.
So this alone was fascinating and this helped him to

(01:49:12):
raise the money to build it, and as he got
down through the years, it just kept taking lots more
and raising and raising and raising that when he got
it to the stage where it was almost five percent,

(01:49:34):
he just had five more percent to go till it
would be operational. What you would do is there's two floors.
There's a bottom floor and a top floor. Is you
would walk in one door and walk across the floor
and go out the other door, and it would rejuvenate everything,

(01:49:56):
all the cells in your body. And that's how extraterrestrial
stay looking young. Solgonda was seven over seven hundred years old,
and he looked like he was twenty five. Right, So
when they have their craft, this is what they live in.
They live in this actual resonation field that is constantly

(01:50:20):
bombarding their cells with youth, right when that's why that's
another reason they live on the interior of planets, is
because they can create this same environment where they're not
going to be bombarded by the outside influences of the

(01:50:41):
sun and all kinds of things that age us. That
they stay looking young as well. Now they can tear
us floors, they can have outdoor settings. They have things
called sincotron skies where you look up it's infinite. It
looks like you're outside in the middle of the day.

(01:51:02):
And it's called the syncotrons guy, because when it turns night,
it will turn intonight as well and go in the
natural cycle of the planet. So there's all of these
very unique things. But when he was almost finished, Algonda
told him that Earth people were not ready for it,

(01:51:27):
and not to turn it off. So he didn't, and
he passed away, and a lot of people believe that,
you know, the government came in and took all his
research and all of that. We don't really know those
things for sure. His second wife has passed away, we

(01:51:49):
don't know about that. But somebody else ended up buying it.
They didn't really do too much with it it. It
just remained locked up behind gates. And then three sisters
came along and they decided to buy it, and they
totally gave it a beautiful cleaning and sheen and redid

(01:52:15):
the property and redid the outside of the dome and
the inside of the dome to protect it and preserve it.
And so they have. So Now what they do is
they do sound bess because the top floor of the
Integratron is an actual sound chamber. And when you are
on one side and I'm on another, if you said

(01:52:41):
on the other side, I would hear Craig that loud, right,
So it throws sounds. Once I was there and Gregorian
Chanters recorded an album inside the dome. Mini artists go
and record songs there, and they came in and did
a performance for all of us, and it was the

(01:53:04):
most amazing things because you heard all of these noises
and sounds and beautiful chants like they were moving all
around the room in this life like you had never
experienced before. So when they do the singing goals, it's
the same thing in a sound bath. When you're lying
on a mat, you start to feel like you're levitating,

(01:53:27):
you do feel yourselves being rejuvenated, you feel all of
these things. It is such a great experience. So if
anyone ever wants to go, if you want to learn
the history of Giant Rock, I do. I did give
the name of the historian who does take people out
on trips to Giant Rock right with and gives them

(01:53:54):
the history. It's better to go at night where you
can bring your chair, sit out, SkyWatch with or night
vision binoculars and hear the history of the rock. And
if you go to the Integratron, you go to integratron
dot com and when you're there you have to sign
up for a sound bath. That's the only way that

(01:54:16):
you can get on the property. It's not a place
where you can just go and wander around. Right So,
they have an incredible gift shop. They actually have a
CD of the actual sound bath, so you can bring
that home and use it to meditate with, which I do.
I wore my first one out so much I got

(01:54:38):
another one last time I was there. And they also
give you a little history before they do the sound
bath of it. And there's a lot of the history
on the first floor that you can go and look
and read about, and all of those things. When I

(01:54:59):
did short film Stranger at the Pentagon, I went there
and we did several screenings of the movie upstairs under
the dome. Because doctor Frank Strangers, who wrote the book,
who knew Valianthor, he actually emceeed all of those early

(01:55:24):
space conventions that George van Tassel Gate, so he I
didn't even know that they had called me and doctor
Frank to come there to do a retro UFO convention,
and we went down. I had always wanted to go.
There was my first time and we were sitting with
the sisters under the dome, just me, doctor Frank and

(01:55:46):
them talking, and doctor Frank starts talking about those early times.
I had no idea, so I got a big history
lesson also from him about those early days and the
things that went on there. So that place really George
van Tassel. We call him the grandfather of ufology because

(01:56:11):
that's the place where it was born. Is a giant
rock and the integratron. Yeah, man, I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:56:19):
Yeah, that's a great, a great history lesson to look up,
especially for you know, for ufology. Maybe we could get
to a couple of other places. I think we have.

Speaker 3 (01:56:29):
Time, absolutely. Uh so let's let's go to hotspots where
you are like almost surely going to see something, right,
So Sedona, You're gonna really see something no matter where
you are in Sedona. Just bring those night vision binoculars.
If you want to somebody to take you out on

(01:56:50):
a tour, it's at the end of the chapter. Just
call just call her, set it up and go out.
You It's better to go with somebody for a tour
who can tell you all about what's going on and
that they already have the equipment, like night vision binoculars
in Sedonau. The other places E Seti Ranch in Washington State, right.

(01:57:17):
I had heard about this ranch. All my friends had
gone there over the years. They're like, oh my god,
you see a spaceship every night, every night. Sometimes there's
a ton of them, this and that, And so I
went with a couple of friends of mine, And so
what you have to do is you go on their
website and you sign up for a you know, to

(01:57:41):
go to a SkyWatch.

Speaker 1 (01:57:43):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:57:43):
If you want to stay on the property, you can
rent cabins, urts, bring your own trailer in that kind
of thing. I mean, there's fees for all of that.
Of course, it's a huge property and the SkyWatch area
looks out into this vast, giant open field that goes

(01:58:05):
on for miles and at the very end of it
sits the majestic Mount Atoms.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:58:13):
So way back when when Kenneth Arnold was flying, he
saw nine disks flying in a v formation and they
were going towards Mount Atoms from Mount Raymier, right, And
this is where the term flying saucer actually originated from.

(01:58:36):
So we know in that area there's been a lot
of extraterrestrial activity. Now, the ranch hands and the people
on the ranch they see ships going in and out
of the mountain all the time. So when you're in
the SkyWatch area at night, they do have one set
of night vision binoculars. There'll be a ranch person there

(01:59:00):
and they'll look up and they'll spot one and they'll
use a laser pointer and say okay, that's where it is.
And then they'll say everyone mentally focused to have it
moved to the left or move to the right, and
you will actually see it move. And when they say
power up, it will power up with tons of light

(01:59:20):
and it'll brighten up like a big right star and
you hear everybody you know in the SkyWatch area screaming.
It's so exciting to see. And when you're looking through
the night vision binoculars you really see it more clearly.
You see the definition. And sometimes you will see a
fleet of them going by. Sometimes you might see three.

(01:59:42):
The last time I was in Sedona, i saw two
of them going just hauling across the sky way way
way up that where you can't see with the naked
eye right so that place you're going to probably be
able to see something. They do have bigfoots there that

(02:00:06):
sometime come on the property. There's a juvenile named Delochey
that they've named him Deloche, and he seems to be
very curious of humans. He doesn't like go into the
camps or anything. But you might see him from a
distance and he'll just stay there and look at you
because he's just as curious as the rest of us.

(02:00:30):
So that's a really cool place. There's also I give
you at the end of the thing all the things
that you can rent if you want to stay on
the property or if you like more of the comforts
of home, like a toilet instead of having to leave
where you're staying, even in the house, to go to

(02:00:53):
the public restroom on the property. Right, there's a place
not far from there where we stayed, which was absolutely fantastic,
and so that's one of my favorite favorite ones. And
so those three places like Sedona and Giant Rock, the

(02:01:17):
Integratron and e Seti Ranch, that's really where you're gonna
most likely see something, but you have to sort of
stay vigilant and keep your eyes to the skies with
some night vision binoculars.

Speaker 1 (02:01:33):
I love it, man. This gives people some great options
on not only learning about it, but actually being able
to go check this stuff out for themselves. So that's
very amazing. Now I want to spend the last few
minutes that we have. You're also working on a new
documentary tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
Yeah, so I'm working on the documentary to the Extraterrestrial
Species Almanac. So where a lot of people. I don't
I think a lot of people knew, is that all
of the races in there I took from real contact
cases and obtain the permission from the publishers or the
actual contact these to use their story in the book

(02:02:14):
and in the back of the book under further reading.
If you actually go there, you will see the book
about that particular race and where you can purchase it. Right.
So everything's in the back of the book, in the
et almanac, in this book, right. So what we're doing

(02:02:37):
is we're actually bringing on a lot of the real
people who are having face to face contact with extraterrestrial beings.
We're bringing them on talking about what they learned, and
you'll hear about their story. We're bringing on hybrids, people

(02:02:58):
who have hybridization with other alien races as well, and
we actually will be talking about all the different various
types of hybrids because a lot of people go hybrids.
How can you do that? Right? Yeah, Well, guess what,
there's many ways of doing it. And what's fascinating is

(02:03:23):
that you know that these people are different. There's something
sometimes in the way they look, in the way they act,
or they're super super smart, or they're super psychic, but
all of them have a very deep spiritual connection to

(02:03:45):
the Earth and to the universe. Right, So that's what's fascinating.
It's not going to be your normal UFO documentary. It's
going You're going to be in outer space the whole time, right,
It's going to be super cool, super cool.

Speaker 1 (02:04:04):
I love it, man. Now, how do you feel about
the phenomenon? It seems like it's kind of evolving or
changing in certain ways. I don't know if what the
reason behind this, but a lot of the contact these
and experiencers that I've interviewed lately and had on my show,
this is more of astral experiences or dream experiences, and

(02:04:25):
they're not really being seemingly not as physical as they
used to be with some of these classic encounters that
we were just talking about where they're actually physically taken
on a ship or they can physically see an extraterrestrial
and interact with it. And most of the sightings that
I see lately are more dream state, astral etheric and

(02:04:45):
not as physical as they used to seem. Have you
noticed the same thing.

Speaker 3 (02:04:50):
Well, sometimes it depends on who the person is and
what the actual mission of that person is, as well,
And the one thing that you have to remember is
that when you're experiencing something in the ethereal or in
the astral right, you are still learning no matter what.

(02:05:16):
It doesn't mean that you have to be in a
physical body to learn. It doesn't differentiate from your soul learning.
If you go to a class on board a craft. Now,
lots of people go to classes on board crafts. Some
are aware of it, some are not aware of it.
Some are taken up to give a little awakening. They

(02:05:39):
get a little remembrance, and because they want to keep
pursuing it, they remember more and more and more and
they go there. And what this does is this helps
them to elevate themselves spiritually, like the consciousness raising programs
we talked about earlier in the show, that this helps

(02:06:02):
them to broaden their social their spiritual sustenance so that
they become more and more spiritual. They now work from
the heart and mind working together. And then this sort
of leeds out into all their family and friends. What

(02:06:23):
are you doing different and this and that and that
kind of thing. And if people want to then sort
of say, well, wow, I think I might try that.
I had an experience once, or you know, I will
tell you there are so many people that have had experiences,
and once they know that you had, when they feel

(02:06:43):
so much at ease to tell you about their experiences.
You know. I ask actors all the time, that's what
I do as a casting director, and I will tell
you some of them had had horrifying experiences, some of
them have had brilliantly beautiful experience, says. Some of them
want nothing to do with it, right, because they're too

(02:07:04):
terrified of what's out there in the great big universe.
But my question always is, if benevolent extraterrestrials landed, would
you go for a ride in their spaceship? Right? Almost
everybody says yes, but that last you know, twenty fifteen
percent says no.

Speaker 1 (02:07:23):
Yeah, well this I mean to me, I do see
that there is a huge aspect of this that seems
to be a spiritual evolution for humans, where they're trying
to evolve our consciousness. But very few times or less
often we see nefarious types of experiences where they're dealing
with the you know, more malevolent extraterrestrials that seemingly are

(02:07:46):
having terrifying experiences and might not have the best interest
of humans in mind. Do you think that there's this
kind of I don't want to say war or something
going on where there's these different factions of good and
evil ex terrestials that have different ideas of what they
want out of humanity that has been going on for
a while.

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
Well, there's so many different points of view that go
along with it. But just like on our planet, we
have good, bad, and then evil, there's just some people
are just plain evil and they don't care about killing.
They don't care. They'll just do whatever they want to

(02:08:27):
get what they want. There are some extraterrestrial races that
for instance, Bill Tompkins, who worked at TRW and worked
on the first Moon mission, said that he was able

(02:08:48):
to see the feed when it was going in and
the actual light feed picture, and that Neil Armstrong saw
these gigantic reptilian ships on the Moon, and so Bill

(02:09:09):
also believed that I'm just giving you a little tiny
thumbnail of it. There's way more to it than what
I'm saying, but the people are interested. Bill Tompkins has
passed away, but he did write a book about it.
So if you look up Bill Tompkins, you'll find this book.
I'm sure on Amazon or something. But you know, one

(02:09:31):
of the things that he said, he says, you think
that's your moon, that's not your moon, that's their moon.
The reptilians, they own the galaxy. Now we've heard this
from other people as well, from other contactes who were
meeting with positive extraterrestrial races that told them about this

(02:09:51):
ongoing war with humans and reptilians and things like that.
That doesn't mean every reptilian is bad, that doesn't mean
all of that is. But you know, in the end,
we don't have access to really what's going on out there. Yeah,
so it's it's interesting to hear these stories and do them.

(02:10:17):
But what I don't want people to do is go
into fear about it. Stay in your positive, spiritual self,
and you are the one who's helping to rise this
planet out of duality, each person just focusing on that.
Don't dwell on these darker aspects because there's nothing that

(02:10:38):
you can do about them anyway, right, So keep yourself positive,
keep yourself spiritual, and keep going and elevating yourself your
spiritual sustenance, and you'll be fine because nothing can get
around you when you when you've raised yourself.

Speaker 1 (02:10:58):
Wow, I agree, man, that's perfect. Note to close on, Craig,
Thank you so much. This book is fantastic. Let the
people know where they can find more about yourself. Get
the book, social media, all your good stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:11:12):
Sure so anything Stranger at the Pentagon and you can
watch the short film I did we won a bunch
of awards on the website Stranger at the Pentagon dot com.
Or you can watch a short film on Amazon Prime
in the UK and America. If you'd like to get

(02:11:35):
these books, you can go to my website Autobiography of
on A N E. T Backslash other dash books, or
you just go to Autobiography of on et dot com
and you click on other books. My book series is

(02:11:56):
on the front homepage, and then the other books are
under other books of course, and anything you buy off
the website, I personalize and sign them for you and
all that good stuff. So that's where everybody can get
all the goodies that are out there.

Speaker 1 (02:12:18):
Awesome, well, Craig, I love it. Thank you so much,
and we're definitely going to do it again in the future.

Speaker 3 (02:12:23):
You betcha. Thank you so much, everybody.

Speaker 2 (02:12:25):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
Until next time, everyone, have an excellent evening. We'll talk
again tomorrow. See y'all doin

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