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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show Ryan Gable.
He is a veteran radio personality and producer for The
Secret Teachings. His broadcasts focus on the synchronicity and objective
analysis of parapsychology, pop conspiracy, parapolitics, health history, the paranormal, symbolism,

(00:25):
esoteric the occult, alchemy, magic, philosophy, and much more in
the most distinct ways by finding parallels and patterns often overlooked. Ryan,
welcome back.

Speaker 2 (00:38):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (00:40):
I'm doing good, buddy, Thanks for having me back.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
Thanks so much for coming back on Man. Always a
great discussion, and today we're going to once again analyze
the reality theater that we're presented as a mechanism for
control and division usually and the extreme polarities are being
presented as if they're the only options, and it seems

(01:02):
that there's an end goal that appears more and more
to be as this epic duel between the polarities good evil,
Black White, Coke, Pepsi, God, Satan, Trump or Kamala, and
those of us that opt out of the madness seem
to be more and more the enemy of both of
those polarities. So we're at an interesting point with how

(01:26):
everything has unfolded and it's becoming more and more difficult
to navigate the conspiratorial waters. But it's an interesting time
and you always do great work looking behind the theatrics,
analyzing the symbolism of some of these large scale events,
which we're going to discuss a bit today. Before we do,

(01:47):
remind the audience a little bit about yourself and your show.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, well, these are all things that are read up
my alley, everything that you just mentioned. So my show
is called The Secret Teaching. I've done it for about
ten to eleven years, but I've been on radio for fifteen,
so I've probably had about four or five years of
practice before I really started my show, and it developed
into something where I tried to be as objective as possible,

(02:14):
painstakingly objective, which means that some shows I might lean
a little bit more to one side and other shows
a little bit more to the other side. But when
you put it all together, I'm trying to bring balance
to everything, doesn't matter what the subject is, and my
specialty is symbolism and applying symbolism to everything. It doesn't
matter what the subject is. It could be health, it

(02:36):
could be the Olympics, it could be the super Bowl,
it could be just politics in general, or it could
be the supernatural, whatever the case is. I try to
apply symbolism and mythology and I look at a little
bit of everything, Chris, try to figure out what's going
on from every angle and try to find a new
angle on things rather than kind of what you're alluding to,

(02:57):
rather than just taking on one side of things or
the other, which I do find to be increasingly difficult,
because I mean within a group, like within Christianity or
within Islam, or within some religion somewhere in the world.
You know, those different denominations, and everybody has their own
kind of way of viewing it. And I think that

(03:18):
that is kind of like a language, and I don't
think that there's anything wrong with that, even if I
disagree with the with the belief system. But that's not
really my business to disagree. It's not my belief system.
I don't really care. I'm more interested in learning about
why people see things differently, and I'm not really trying
to push an idea. But within whatever the group is,

(03:39):
it is very difficult to say, well, I'm not against you,
but I'm not necessarily with you. I see what you're saying,
but could you also look at it this way? I
think the big problem is it's really difficult to do
that and then to still maintain some kind of relationship
with people, because most of us just want to sort
of live in the whole harmony and the piece of

(04:01):
a I guess, I would say, of an ideology. So
to answer your question, I try to really focus on
that in all of mine work, whatever the subject matter is.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Yeah, we we've reached such an incredible point in it
seems like consciousness evolution, where we're really pushing to try
and understand some greater concepts at this point in our reality,
and there's more and more of us that are at
least becoming aware that there's a fundamental problem with a

(04:36):
lot of what we rely on in the mainstream and
what we rely on as far as some of our institutions,
and that seems to have this ripple effect to where
more and more people, once they become aware of that aspect,
they start to pay attention to other things in their lives,

(04:56):
and this has this powerful hundredth monkey effect. And unfortunately,
the point we're at now it seems to be that
there's so much growth at this time as and so
much information to decipher through that there's a lot of confusion,
a lot of fear, and a lot of people are
not probably not sure where to go with all this.

(05:17):
So this is great that we can actually come here
and discuss these things and maybe try and get a
better overall perspective of what's going on. I know you've
been looking at some of the bigger events unfolding lately,
and you sent me a message about the Olympics and
some of the other parallel events that are unfolding right

(05:37):
now that are causing division. Talk a little bit about
what you're seeing in some of those events, like the Olympics,
and what we're tuning into basically as this theater.

Speaker 4 (05:52):
Okay, I think that that's a good subject to begin with.
Let me preface by giving you a couple of examples
that I think are small in comparison to the Olympics,
and then we can kind of build up to that.
So and based on your original question, I think that
this comes into that comes into play as well. So
let's look at, for example, before we get to the Olympics,
wildfires in the United States. I first noticed this when

(06:16):
we had those fires in Lehina and Maui, and you
had one side of the media, mostly the mainstream, saying
that this was climate change. You had the alternative media saying, no,
it's not climate change, it's directed energy weapons and it's geoengineering.
And I said, well, those things exist, but I don't

(06:39):
think that that's what caused these fires. Oh, but they're
very suspicious. Well, sure, maybe they're suspicious. It might also
be not that the fires are suspicious. It might be
more so that the way that massive corporations react to
stilling or stealing essentially or gobbling up the land in
a disaster, that might seem suspicious.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Sure, no doubt about it.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
But that doesn't mean some kind of geoengineering DW is used.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Again, not that that doesn't exist.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
So I kind of noticed it then when I was
told some really nasty things by some of my listeners
that they weren't going to listen to me anymore because
I denied the truth of dw's and I thought I
read them on Boeing's website, Raytheon's website, Lockheed Martin's website.
I just don't buy what the alternative media is selling.
But I don't buy the mainstream media either. I thought

(07:30):
it was negligence, just like what happened in Paradise, California,
where the in court it came out that the power
company was largely responsible for the fire because they did
not take care of the power lines. So people want
to believe in climate change or geoengineering, dew weapons like Again,
there's a little bit of truth to both sides of that.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
But that then.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
Allows the company that was negligent, and of course the
government in California that's negligent and doesn't want to do
force work, it allows them to get away quite literally
with murder. So that's that's an example of and I
started thinking more like that with every issue, and I
thought the same thing with I don't know what I
can and can't say for.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
You can say whatever you want for this stream man,
no limits here.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I didn't mean that in terms of censorship.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
I just meant that in terms I didn't want to
say a keyword and you got kicked platform.

Speaker 3 (08:21):
But go for it. Okay.

Speaker 4 (08:24):
Well, it's the same thing with vaccines, right ire. I
never took a vaccine for COVID. I don't get my
flu shot. I'm one of those people. I'm kind of
an old school hippie liberal type of a person. Honestly,
that's how I live my life. But I don't think
that everybody is having cancer diagnosis because of COVID vaccines.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
And I think.

Speaker 4 (08:43):
That's true because we saw massive spikes and cancer long
before COVID vaccines.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
That doesn't mean that they can't contribute to them.

Speaker 4 (08:51):
But I don't think that that's what the main cause
of the massive increase in cancer and cardiovascular disease and
diabetes and all these other things are. And on the
other hand, what do people say cancer is caused by Well,
it's not caused by the vaccine. It must be caused
by the sun. It's the sun's fault. That's kind of
like the climate change version of it, right, it's the
sun's fault, it's the UV radiation, which.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
Like, sure, yeah, there's truth to that.

Speaker 4 (09:16):
I just don't think the cancer is caused by vaccines
or it's caused by the sun. I think it's caused
by our diets and things that we interact with in
the environment. And once again, that allows companies, and that
allows massive lumbering corporations. Not that I'm opposed to corporations
making profit. I hope Tesla makes another trillion dollars, and
I hope Apple makes another trillion dollars. But I'm saying

(09:37):
that I think these companies can get away once again,
quite literally, with murder, by focusing on things that have
nothing at all to do with the root source of
the problem. But there's a market for that. There's a
market for climate change. There's a market for the sun
did it. There's a market for its vaccines that did it.

Speaker 3 (09:53):
And there's also a.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
Market for, Oh, you don't actually have heart disease. You
just got stars code two and it's the virus that's
making your heart go crazy. It's the virus that made
you have a stroke. It's the virus that made you fat.
It's the virus, it's the vaccine. It's like no, it's
the lifestyle on average. So I say that because I
think that those are kind of micro cup I mean,
they're large, macrocosmic examples if we look at them individually,

(10:18):
but in terms of the Olympics, I would consider them
microcosmic because of the Olympics is such a massive event.
It's a global event, to the point where I think
they estimated during the Tokyo Olympics close to half the
world's population watched That's a lot of people. It was
like three point four billion or something. It was over

(10:38):
three billion. I don't know what the exact numbers were.
That's a lot of people that watched them. That's like
half the world's population. So it's a lot of people right,
way more than the Super Bowl. So same kind of
thing happened during the Olympics. I like the Olympics mostly.
I mean, I enjoy watching hockey when there's the Winter Olympics.

(10:58):
I got in the water polo a couple of years ago.
I watched the water polo matches. I like watching football
or soccer. I like sometimes I watched basketball games. Well,
my point is I kind of like the Olympics, but
I understand the history of the Olympics. I've I even
wrote a history book where I talked a little bit
about World War Two in the book as an introduction
to the overall subject matter. So I've studied that quite

(11:20):
a bit in my life. I have a whole library
of books on that. So yeah, I understand that nineteen
thirty six Berlin. Most of the modern Olympic Games, the
way that we view them and the way that they're portrayed,
are derived from Lenny Riefenstahl, and it's derived from the
Nazi Party trying to glorify and trying to propagandize the

(11:43):
public to accept what Hitler wanted, and that was a
united world, a united European Union, which we eventually got
without Hitler anyway, just with other countries controlling it. That's
a whole other story. But yeah, I understand that's where
a lot of it comes from. It's obviously also the
old Greek Olympic Games and the parallel games called the

(12:05):
Pythion Games of the Serpent Games, the Pythion Games which
were those of Apollo and the Python in the myth
which relate to the orcle of Delphi because that's where
the Python was, so like, I'm aware of all that,
but still I still like the Olympics. I think the
mythology in the history is really fascinating. But what I
don't like is when there's the opening ceremony, and before
the opening ceremony, like, sure, I'm going to look at

(12:27):
it because it's global and there's going to be symbolism.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Everything is symbolism.

Speaker 4 (12:31):
There's symbolism in the background of your video right now,
and in the back back, these are all kanji. Here
on my wall, these are all symbols, right, everything, the symbol,
the color of my shirt is a symbol. So yeah,
there's going to be symbols. But that doesn't mean that
they're satanic. It doesn't mean that the illuminative from there,
it doesn't matter. It doesn't mean that the Masons were involved. Right,
So that's the mindset you have going into it, or

(12:54):
you have the mindset of that's all crazy.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
There's no such.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Thing as symbols, don't exist. There's no meaning to any
of this.

Speaker 3 (13:03):
It's just an.

Speaker 4 (13:04):
Opening ceremony because we want to watch some international sport.
And I think that likewise, you go into it with
that mindset, which I think the majority of people do,
and you don't see the subtle things, even and this
is the point, even admittedly symbolic things like for example,
the Olympic logo that you saw the Olympic logo, the

(13:25):
woman's hair and the lips, that's not that's not something
that conspiracy theorists found. That's not something that the average
person just you know, glossed over. It was what the
French government said. They designed the logo to be Marion
or Marianne, the goddess of freedom and liberty, basically our

(13:46):
lady Libertas with a Latin Libertas or our Lady Liberty
or statue of Liberty. So like they openly just said, yeah,
we designed the logo to represent Marion, and we had
decided to the French governments that we just to have
the opening ceremony on the river Syin. I believe it
is how you pronounce it. And it was the first

(14:07):
time they'd ever had the opening ceremony outside of the stadium,
and they had it on the river. And if you
look at the I guess it would be French mythology
or the tradition of personifying nature as a as a deity.
The river Siin is actually personified as a goddess, a
goddess named Sequana, and she's directly related to well, Marianne.

(14:31):
So you see those two symbols, those are just on
the surface. That's what the French government, the Olympic committee,
that's what they said it was meant to be. It's
not a conspiracy and it's not just oh it's there's
no symbolism at all, it's just some opening ceremony that's it.
That's what the government, and that's what the Olympic.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Committee said that it was supposed to be. Okay.

Speaker 4 (14:50):
So my point with all that being said is that
you have people going into it looking for some kind
of demonic, satanic glue minati symbolism and a lot of
that I've noticed. I don't think I've ever noticed this
until recently, like really recently, like just the Olympics, that
I've noticed that there's a very heavy I never thought

(15:11):
this very clearly before.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
There's a very heavy.

Speaker 4 (15:15):
Fundamentalist Christian segment within the conspiracy. I knew that there
was kind of a Christian angle to things, but like,
it's a very malicious in my what I experienced. So
at Laska Weeks, more malicious Christian element within the conspiracy
minded groups. I guess you could call them where everything

(15:37):
is the same two or three verses from the Bible,
like if they see a horse, it must be the
horse of revelation. It couldn't be that the government of
France and that the Olympic Committee said that the horse
on the river was meant to be ridden by Sequana,
the goddess of the river, who rides animals just like

(15:58):
Diana or Artemis because she's a goddess of nature. And
you can say, well, that's not what it meant. They
were lying to us. It was really the horse of
the Apocalypse. I just don't understand. It's not even like
the Book of Revelation is being referenced outside of one
or two verses. It's just the same verses. And behold

(16:18):
a pale horse. Like the horse wasn't pale. It was
silver and a silver horse and all of my symbol books,
a silver horse is the horse of the moon. It's
the horse of the moon goddess, which would of course
the moon controls water, so yes, it would be the
horse of Sequana or Marianne. So that checks out because

(16:41):
that's the logo, that's the river and the horse is
that of the moon. Plus who performed on the on
the Eiffel Tower, Selene Dion Selene is the moon goddess.
That's literally the name of the moon goddess. Selene spelled
in different ways. And there was a very viral photo
of the Eiffel Tower with where they had the Olympic

(17:03):
rings under it.

Speaker 3 (17:04):
I don't know if you did you see this where
they had the moon was photographed in the middle of
the rings.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
So really it was just like a really really, really
good picture. The moon was in the middle of the
rings and was right under the Eiffel Tower, and I
think it was after Selene performed. So here you have
again Selene, the moon goddess on the Eiffel Tower, which is,
you know, reaching up into heaven drawing down the moon
which was right underneath of the Eiffel Tower. So when
you start to look at it from that, this is

(17:31):
how I looked at it. I just tried to figure
out what these different things officially were and what they made,
what other people were seeing. I don't see the Horse
of Revelation. I don't see the Book of Revelation. I
do in some things, but I didn't see that. I
saw Marianne, I saw Sequana, I saw Selene. I saw
a pattern, a parallel pattern of goddesses that were linked
to water, the moon, and birth. And then the very

(17:52):
opening of the ceremony, Chris was you had these people
that took kids down into the catacombs of the city
with the torch. You can see all the skeletons and whatnot.
There's like, what's five six seven million skeletons down and
they estimate, and they put them on a boat, and
then they exited the tunnel. There's like you can see

(18:15):
the light at the end of the tunnel, and they
exited the tunnel through like on a water on a boat. Well,
there's a couple of things going on there. I mean
the underworld or the afterlife. You're on a boat, whether
that's in Greece or that's in Egypt or anywhere else
in the world.

Speaker 3 (18:30):
You're on a boat. You're on water.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
You go through the different divisions and the torch lights
your way, and then you go down. When you're born,
you go down the berth canal, which is what was
in that opening scene, and then.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
You are berthed.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
You follow the light, you go toward the light, and
that's the birthing portal into the physical world when a
baby is born. So it was a resurrection ritual, which
all again has to do with the motif of the goddess.
So if you look at it from that point of view,
which is not really a point of view that's structured.
I'm just simply looking at what like, Okay, there's Marianna,
there's Sequana, there's saline, there's a birthing ritual. Okay, This

(19:05):
clearly has to do with the goddess, and then they
put Isis.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
I don't know if you saw this.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
There was a giant Isis head like the goddess in Egypt.
There was a giant Isis head in the river, so
it clearly was meant to represent the goddess. And if
you look at images of Isis, I'd say probably the
most famous image of Isis is the image of her

(19:31):
with the red background the veil, and she is holding
a boat because she is the goddess of water and
childbirth and rivers like the Nile, and she's holding scales
in the other hand, which relate to the weighing of
the soul and the heart, the feather and the heart
in Egypt. But also it's something that Jesus holds scales

(19:51):
in some images. Saint Michael holds scales. The black horse
of the Apocalypse does indeed hold scales. So if there's
any relationship to the black Horse or to the revelation
story and the horse is, it would come through the
Isis imagery. It wouldn't come through the actual horse itself,
which was again silver, although there was a white horse

(20:12):
with wings. But I can't I didn't hear anybody point
this out. The white horse with wings is not the
revelation horse because the white horse's spring. The white horse
with wings is the pegasus, and the pegasus is used
to kill who Medusa? And Medusa was done. What happened
to Medusa? She had her head cut off, just like
Marie Antoinette. So that imagery is all over the Olympics,

(20:35):
all over the Olympics, and you get instead of that,
it's revelation, it's you know, devil worship, it's the illuminat
and I get tired.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Well, it's not sexy, it's not fantastical. We're presented with
what comes out of the performance, and whatever true meaning
it has is really irrelevant. What happens is it's presented
and either one person or a thousand people will come

(21:05):
to a certain conclusion. And if those individuals or groups
have a powerful enough voice, this takes on a life
of its own and it spreads like wildfire, and it
becomes a new understanding and a new misunderstanding. And unfortunately,
this has been happening so much, and it's been compounded

(21:27):
event after event, year after year for the past few years.
And on top of that, we have the AI art
with the chat GPT, fake stories behind it, and all
the deceptions that are coming out from every angle. It
is an era of madness and mass confusion, and I

(21:47):
can see how that can be very dangerous for whatever
the next step may be for us. But overall, it
seems like to me, if I can step back and
look at everything, I'm an optimist and I also have
a strong spiritual foundation for me. If I look back

(22:07):
at everything, there may be this greater force guiding humanity.
Call it consciousness, call it a collective consciousness that no
longer desires to be bamboozled and fooled and trapped within
this system. But what happened was we allowed it to unfold.

(22:29):
We gave it permission to unfold for centuries, and it
took a large scale slap in the face collectively for
us to start to realize that we've been allowing this
system to lead us in certain directions. And it seems
like whatever the system is is having a reaction to

(22:50):
the wakening, and it's causing mass chaos presenting the different polarities.
Like you said earlier, it seems like if you don't
align with the extremes, it becomes very difficult for you
to navigate some of these waters. So it is a
very interesting phenomena, and I do have to wonder if

(23:11):
there is some sort of greater force at play, that
maybe it is just the collective consciousness that wants to
pull up its big boy pants and have some accountability
for once.

Speaker 4 (23:23):
I get the gist of what you're saying, and it
seems like there certainly is some sort of counter I
would call it, some sort of counter intelligence movement that
almost trolls people with that with this kind of stuff,
it really feels like people are being controlled by the imagery,
by the ritual, ceremonial aspects of things like the Olympics.

(23:45):
And in fact, that's not just my opinion. And I
should also say that all the stuff that I just
pointed out about the Olympics, it doesn't mean that I'm right.
I mean, the symbols are there, so I mean that's
clearly factual, but the overall are over arching theme is
not something that I can tell you I know for
sure if there is one right, there are certain facts

(24:06):
that are facts, and that's just the bottom line. But
I think that there's the evidence of trolling can be
found also in the Olympics. And there's different, I guess,
forms of trolling, but some of them are more obvious.
The guy that put the Olympic ceremony together, the guy
that was the director of it, Thomas Jolly, openly admitted

(24:27):
that the ceremony was meant to mock Christians. Now, that
was the opening of the The Last Sepper, right, and
the blue character Ionysis playing the part, right, So he openly.
I mean they denied it at first, and then he
came out and said, yeah, that is what it was
supposed to be. I was influenced by that imagery and
I wanted to he meant to mock the Last Sepper, okay.

(24:53):
And then the woman that played Jesus, the lady with
the headdress on, Barbara Butch, she also said it was
meant to offend Christians.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (25:04):
So in that case, you do actually have very blatantly,
you have people that are saying that we are trolling
Christians on an international stage.

Speaker 3 (25:14):
Now, what I find peculiar about this.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
Is that the two people that were responsible for that imagery,
in their own words, this isn't what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (25:25):
They're both gay Jews, and I found that peculiar. I
haven't heard anybody else point that out. They're both gay Jews. Well,
the woman, she calls herself a queer, fat Jew. But
the other guy, he's just a gay Jew. So at
least that's what I've read in their social media and

(25:46):
their bios and all that. I've read a lot about
both of them. They're both gay Jews, and I thought, huh,
that's weird. So two gay Jews got together and literally
conspired to offend Christians and to troll Christians at the Olympics,
and the Ayatolah of Iran and the president of Turkey
and the Muslim countries came to the defense of Jesus

(26:08):
and came to the defense of Christians, and Christians do
not accept that. They do not want to acknowledge that
the Muslim world came to the defense of Jesus while
Jews mocked Jesus.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
This is interesting because this speaks to a larger issue
that we're facing right now. Even in politics, we're seeing
theology and religion creep in and it's becoming a very
powerful driving factor in conspiracy land. Basically, like you said,

(26:41):
a lot of the heart of a lot of this
culture is Christian and I don't have anything against Christians,
although I do agree that they can be rather judgmental
and close minded, and I do align with a lot
of the Christian beliefs. I think that the dogma and

(27:05):
the way it's presented is a form of mind control.
I think it always has been. I grew up in
a Catholic home, and everyone that I talk to that
grew up in similar very religious Christian or Catholic homes
has a level of trauma behind it. It seems to
cause this deep rooted theological dogma that causes reactions to

(27:30):
certain situations, and it becomes so deep rooted. That's why
I think it can be a form of mind control
if you're exposed to it at such a young age.
It's so powerful that what's happening is these people that
are fundamentalist Christians or they have that very powerful Christian
dogma that they grew up with, are expressing it because

(27:50):
they are being gaslighted right now, because they're being taunted
right now from whatever this is. And also whatever this
is seems to have this desire to not only push
to those good and evil polarities, but express especially to
the religious folks that we are in the end times,

(28:11):
which I find very interesting as well.

Speaker 4 (28:15):
Oh, I've been talking about that on my show The
Secret Teachings for years. I believe that there are very
powerful forces. I would say the Windsor family is one
of them, who play on the themes of the end times,
play on the themes of the Escaton and armageddon and
all of that. And I think that's why you do
actually see a lot of that imagery in pop culture.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
And you see it.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
I mean, well, one, it's because just the heavy influence
of religion, but I think it's also because these themes
are played on when we see these these giant rituals
like the weddings or the coronation the king or they
clearly play on that imagery, There's no doubt about that.
But when you look at let's again go back to
the Olympics and look at the Olympics, that's not the

(28:57):
horse of the apocalypse, plain and simple. It doesn't mean
that you don't see that imagery elsewhere. I mean, when
those two horses got free, I don't know remember that story.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
The horses got.

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Free and ran through the streets of what was in
London a couple of months ago, okay, that you can
absolutely relate to revelation, and they were. One of them
was covered in blood.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
I think it was.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Now, if you get beyond the Christian element, if you
have eyes to see, it's more of there's a battle
between paganism and Christianity and some of those older understandings.
If you can get past the Satanism and some of
the more modern understandings, there seems to be this revival

(29:36):
of pagan understandings that are bursting through in our modern age.
Would you agree with that, I would agree.

Speaker 4 (29:44):
I would say ninety percent of that. I've thought of
that recently and mentioned it on a recent show, and
I thought, maybe because I don't know if it's necessarily
pagan in the sense that paganism means religion of the
country people. It basically means a religion that's not institutional.
So I actually did thinking about that, Chris, I was
thinking about that in Red in regard to the Olympics,

(30:05):
and I thought, I mean, the whole Olympic opening ceremony
was meant to.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
Pass the torch to the Goddess.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
I mean, that's pretty much part of the imagery and
also part of what the Olympic committee and France said,
But at the same time the torch was being passed
to Marion the same week the opening ceremony, Joe Biden
acknowledges that, Okay, I can't do this. I'm going to
step down, and he used a very curious word to
describe how he was going to move down and give

(30:38):
the space to Kamala Harris. He said, I'm going to
pass the torch to the new generation the same week
that they're passing the torch to Marianne and France. Now
that might just seem like a total coincidence that it's
the torch and it's the Olympic torch, there's more than that,
because when he passed the torch to Kamala, I don't
know if you know anything abou Kamala Harris, her name,

(31:00):
you know anything her name? This is weird. Okay, this
just it's not my opinion. It's just a fact. And
then you can do with it what you will. But
it relates directly to all the same imagery we saw
at the Olympics. And this is going to answer your question.
I think this is my way of answering your question.
I might be, but I'm going to try to come

(31:22):
back around to your question. So, Kamala has two meanings
in Sanskrit, at least according to scholars and dictionaries. It
means lotus, but it also means pale red. Her middle
name is devde v I, and Dev is a character
who is usually linked to lok Shmi, who is a

(31:45):
goddess of She's basically a Fena or Minerva. She's the
owl and she wears red like Kamala, the pale red.
Dev is a goddess who in the myth does a
dance with Shiva, the destroyer at the end of the world. Now,
of course, just to try to bring balance to this,

(32:08):
the Hindu trinity of the Trimurti is Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.
It's the creator, the preserver, and the destroyer. That's balance
and necessary evil. If you get rid of the elements
of creation and balance, then you only get chaos. So
if we're only looking at the chaos element, then it
would be maybe more evil or satanic or whatever term

(32:29):
you want to use, Okay, if you don't have Brahma
and Vishnu.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (32:32):
So she does a the Dev character does a dance
with Shiva at the end of the world. This is
really weird. When the world ends, they slay an elephant,
maybe the Republican parties, and they baite, they bathe in
its blood, they bathe in its blood, and they wear
it's they wear its skin, and they dance around and

(32:54):
laugh and play, and it's swell.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
It's the end. It's the end of the world.

Speaker 4 (32:58):
That's dev So Tamala Devi in Sanskrit means the pale
goddess of chaos, the pale goddess of destruction, the pale
goddess of the end of the world. Hey, hear me out.
When Kamala Harris became vice president, this is not me
saying this. This is what the symbol dictionaries say. It's
really crazy. When Kamala Harris became vice president. Remember the

(33:20):
Democrat Party turned their logo to the sun, so that
the star. Remember that the star was pointing to the east. Okay,
So you've got a couple of things. So you have
the eastern star, okay, So you could relate that certainly
to Venus. But if you've read a very select few
magical texts like the the Book of Abermelin, the Mage,

(33:45):
or if you've read well, especially if you've read this
infernal dictionary that I have with Colin de Plancy, and
there's a handful of others. There's a every element every
side of the four points of the five pointed star.
The fifth point is consciousness, but the four points relate

(34:05):
to one of the elements in each of the elements
in each of the four directions, Like the Christian Cross
has an associated spirit. So if you point the pentagram,
this isn't my opinion, this is like ceremonial magic. If
you point the pentagram to the east, you're calling on
the Eastern Spirit.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
Well, get this.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
The Eastern Spirit is named orions Orians like the Orient
and the Eastern Spirit. Get this arrives as there's different descriptions,
of course, there's all kinds of descriptions, but it's a
demon basically. So it is a decrepit old man, maybe
Joe Biden, who no joke, rides a donkey simple look

(34:46):
at the Democrat party and is followed by a crazy woman.

Speaker 3 (34:53):
I can't make it up.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
So you get that from the moment of inauguration to
now she's the nominee Kamala de Vi and the passing
of the torch the same week they're passing the torch
in France, this big Olympic ceremony, this big ritual, and
then furthermore the Pale Woman. If you want to go
to the biblical terminology, I've got a Bible over here.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
I love the Bible.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
I've read Revelation probably more than any other book except Genesis,
and I am like from a Christian point of view.
If you're listening, I'm very familiar, yes, with the Book
of Revelation in the Bible, and in reading that and
then relating that to Kamala Devi and the Red Goddess
of Destruction.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Who is that?

Speaker 4 (35:35):
Who's the Red Goddess of destruction? That's the Horror of Babylon.
That's Alistair Crowley's Red Woman. Yeah, it's also Lilith or
lamache To. And you want to get hear something really weird, Chris,
If you could do this on your computer, I bet
if you go to duck Duck go the search engine,
let's see if it comes up in real time with you.
I've had four listeners confirm this.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
If you go to duck Duck go and if you
type in tell me when you y let's see.

Speaker 4 (36:05):
I'm ready, Okay, I don't know if it's still going
to come up for you. I have screenshots of all
of this, uh, and I have listeners that sent me
some to type in Horror of Babylon verse. That's it,
Horror Babylon Verse and click enter and tell me what
comes up under the news. Now, I don't know if
it's going.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
To see it might have changed under the news. Yeah boo.

Speaker 1 (36:31):
Book of Revelation, the Beautiful Babylon Jewel of the Ancient World?

Speaker 4 (36:40):
Is that on dot go? Okay, it must have changed,
because when I did my show in this week ago,
I typed in Horror Babylon to try to find the verse,
and what I got was news articles about Kamala Harris
and her stances on abortion.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
I have screenshots of that is really.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
Really nothing like that is coming out on this one interesting.

Speaker 4 (37:00):
Maybe that's because she pointed it out, but but even
if that's not the case, I just thought that that
was weird. But the point is, what's Kamala Harris's major policy,
Like her main political issue is abortion, well so is Lilith.
Lilith is the Red Goddess, the Red Queen, Queen of Knight,
and she is the abortor of children and the tempter

(37:21):
of men. How to Kamala Harris begin her career famously
by being a tempter of men and sleeping with the
mayor of San Francisco, Willie Brown. So she began her
career as a political whoror she also is, well, I
think primarily concerned with abortion. That's what the New York
Times and I mean that's if you just listen to her,
she's all of her campaign ads are about abortion. Well,

(37:43):
that's again the same character. That's this what doesn't matter
what you call her horror Babylon drunk on the blood
of the of the followers of Christ, or it's the
Lilith of Lamache too. And then what's another big thing,
Kamala Harris LGBTQ. Do you know what Lilith the goddess
wears around her neck? A rainbow?

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Like this stuff is not coincidental, man, I think it
can't be.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
No, this can't be coincidental.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I'll go ahead.

Speaker 4 (38:08):
Well, bringing it back around to what kind of what
you were asking and what we were talking with paganism
and all that. I think what's happening here is I
think Kamala Harris is a vessel for that queen that goddess,
that energy, that spirit. In the same way that I
think that they used the Olympic ceremony to draw down
the moon to in the witchcraft sense, to draw down

(38:30):
the moon, except not into a member of the coven
who has the ritual intimacy with the male member of
the coven who's the green Man or the horn gods
as part of a copulation ritual. I think that they're
drawing down a very perverted feminine energy because across the
world what you see is a heavy focus on the

(38:52):
destruction of families, a heavy focus on the destruction of children,
a heavy focus on a distortion of all that is good.
And this takes us into another very disturbing area. Please
cut me off at any time. But when you look
at the two people that did that imagery at the Olympics,
that intended to mock Jesus, and then you go read

(39:13):
the Holy Book of those two people, the Talmude, and
what the Talmude says about Christians and what it says
about Jesus Christ. That Jesus Christ burns in feces. And
that's not an anti Semitic statement, that's a factual statement.
I can show you in the Talmud where it says
that I have screenshots and I can pull up the text.
Same thing with all gentiles are filthy and dirty and

(39:35):
can be killed by the fundamentalist Jews, and the Jews
cannot be held accountable for killing gentiles and mocking Christ.
There is a I'm not saying Jews Jews right talking
about fundamentalist Talmudists, these people that Winston Churchill said this
in nineteen twenty. He said, these people are hell bent

(39:56):
on destroying civilization, reducing things to a state of arrested development,
trying to create conditions of impossible equality, and eradicating civilization
anywhere it exists in the world. This is even written
about in Elephus Levi's The History of Magic. He writes
about how the same groups of people do and he
grew up Catholic, how they do this and what their

(40:17):
agenda is, and everybody's in the crossfire. Everybody's in the crosshairs.
And I think a great example of that would be
what's happening in Ireland and what's happening in well, I
guess all across the UK. You see these riots and
protests over illegal immigration. How does the media portray that
right wingers against Muslims. And when they show these Muslims

(40:37):
that are attacking the right wingers and the right second
Muslims they're wearing Antifa garb, it's a communist revolution. It's
not Muslims. Muslims are just in the crosshairs, just like
Jews were in the crosshairs in the past. The Islamic
world is not the enemy. They came to the defense
of Christianity. What we're seeing here is whether or not
Albert Pike and that letter is acci the final World

(41:01):
War is going to be fought by bringing all religions
into conflict with one another, driving them based on their divisions,
and destroying all religions in order to unite the world
under a one global, one global system.

Speaker 3 (41:13):
I think that's well.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
That would explain why the polarities are so important right now,
why it's so important to corral people into these different
belief systems, and why if you opt out of the madness,
you become a target for any of those specific belief
systems they.

Speaker 2 (41:32):
All attack you.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Also, this political season has a level of theatrics that
is more than anything I've experienced in my lifetime, and
it seems like it's pushing towards something in the mass
consciousness that is like an apocalyptic type situation. Now, another

(41:55):
thing you mentioned, the Jewish situation and what's happening is
another one of these polarities where we're being pushed to
hate a group of people based on the ideologies of
the powerful leaders of these certain groups. We're also seeing
in the conspiracy Christian culture people who are looking back

(42:17):
at World War Two and saying, oh, maybe Hitler was
doing the right thing. And it's becoming this new movement
where we're we're looking at just all the wrong aspects
of this. It's all part of this same division tactic.

Speaker 3 (42:34):
Yeah, see that.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
Do you want to talk about this because okay, we
can definitely discuss this. So there's a lot of a
lot of complicated details here.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
Ah.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
Yeah. Number one, anti Semitism.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
We should define that. It means being an anti Semitic, right.
Semetic means that you are you are Semitic, you speak
one of the Semitic languages, you are descendant from one
of the Semitic tribes. Okay, just because you're Jewish doesn't
mean you speak one of the Semitic languages. I can
convert to Judaism the porn star. Jenna Jamison converted to Judaism.

(43:07):
That doesn't make her a Jew, okay. In the same
way if you read the Book of Romans. The Book
of Romans says that a Jew is not someone who
is Jewish outwardly. A Jew is someone who is Jewish internally.
Same thing with circumcision. It's not a physical thing to
be performed, it's a spiritual thing in the heart to
be performed. Joseph Campbell, the mythologist, he said that Israel

(43:27):
is the state of Saturn, that their star is the
Saturn star. The Book of Acts says that the Saturn star.
They use the word rim Fam in the Book of Acts,
that the Rima star is the star that the Jews
were worshiping. That God was furious with the Jews for
worshiping because it was a false idol. And in the
Book of Revelation it says that the fake Jews, just

(43:50):
like the Book of Romans, just like in the Book
of Acts, that these people that pretend to be Jews
and pretend to be poor when they're wealthy and they're
not actually Jews, and they're not actually poor, they are
the Synagogue of Satan. People say well, that's that really
anti Semitic book. You mean Revelation, You mean in the Revelation.

Speaker 3 (44:07):
Where it says that.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
So if you read the Bible, there's this clear indication
that there is a very wicked group of people that
pretend to be Jewish that are not Jewish.

Speaker 3 (44:17):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
So that's the first thing. And Semitism would include all
of the Arab world. If you are Arab, you are
a Semite. There are dozens of tribes Muslims are Semites.
Every Muslim you meet who is Muslim by birth, in terms.

Speaker 3 (44:34):
Of their genetics and their lineage, are.

Speaker 4 (44:37):
By definition Semitic, okay. And it's weird in Judaism. If
your mother is not Jewish, you're not considered Jewish, even
if you are of the bloodline. So it's a very
confusing thing. All that's really important to define that before
we can even go any further into trying to understand
what all this stuff is. If you go back to

(44:57):
you and your audience are obviously probably very familiar with
the Rothschilds, and the Rothchild dynasty began in the seventeen
hundreds in Frankfurt, Germany. In seventeen seventy five, there were
anti Semitic laws preventing Jews from doing things in Germany
in seventeen seventy five. This is not something that began

(45:20):
in the twenties and thirties in Germany. This is something
that goes back hundreds of years. There were anti Semitic
laws that were enacted in Russia in the late eighteen hundreds,
before the turn of the century. This is something that's
been going on for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
Now.

Speaker 4 (45:35):
We could explore why that is. One of the reasons
could be because well, Jews or Gypsies usually had very
strange customs, and they were strange to every culture, and
these people, well, we could give you. I could give
you an example of one of the customs. It's called
metz pipeh. I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right.

(45:56):
I don't speak Hebrew. Not a Semite. But if you
go to the New York City website for health or health,
you can just type in NYC Health Department and you
could type in briss I think, but you can read
this on the New York City Health Department.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
It's called direct oral suctioning, where the mole.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
The mole cuts the baby's penis and then drinks were
basically sucks the blood out of the baby's penis. If
you were a foreign people that came into a city
and one of your rituals was to drink the blood
out of a child's penis, I'm pretty sure people might
see you as a demon. You probably would be looked
at right as some kind of months, which is why

(46:40):
if you look at the Infernal Dictionary, which was written
in the late eighteen hundreds, Okay, a lot of these
demons ball Mollic, you know, the famous ball Molik, or
any of them, belfagor Uranome. The list goes on and on.
A lot of them look like rabbis with horns on
their head. Because the caricature of the anti Semitic thing

(47:02):
that we thought started in Germany goes back hundreds of years.
Because it's not that Jews were portrayed as demons. It's
that demons were things that were from the outside. They
were foreigners. That could be a country, it could be
a people, it could be a tribe, it could be
anything from the outside world to the Chinese. Everything outside
of Chinese territory was demonic in a sense. Okay, outside

(47:26):
of Africa, everything was demonic. So if you have this
group of people that are in different parts of the world,
and they're traveling all about and they don't really have
a home, and they have these bizarre rituals okay, bizarre
by whatever definition. Everywhere they go, they're going to be portrayed,
just like the plants he portrays them. That's where we
get the caricature from. That's where we also get the

(47:47):
idea of well, what do Jewish people tend to go into. Well, Historically,
in the Bible, Christians are not allowed to loan money
at interest. Jews are in in law later, much much later,
i'd say, more recently, closer to our time than the
time of Jesus. The Church said that Christians are not

(48:07):
allowed to loan money at interest, are not allowed to
engage in usury. Okay, Jews are because they didn't follow
canon law. In the Qur'an, it says that Muslims are
not allowed to loan money at interest and engage in usury.
In fact, they condemn anybody who does that to basically
burning in hell eternally internal damnation for you engaging in usury.

(48:28):
Jews don't have that restriction, so it's acceptable for Jews
to engage in interest. This is not a this is
not a theory.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
Rabbis. A rabbi pointed this out to me. This is
why Jewish.

Speaker 4 (48:38):
People tend to get into banking, because it was a
field that was considered that it was considered wrong for
anybody else. It was immoral, unethical, it was it was gross.
I mean, if you don't believe me as a listener,
or you, Chris, you could just look.

Speaker 1 (48:52):
Up Oh I'm very familiar with this, but yeah.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
With this, yeah, yeah, And I wasn't suggesting that you
don't believe me. I'm just saying and like, if anybody
you could just look this up, read the rabbi's article
and Rolling Stone about it. Same thing with entertainment, entertainment,
you know, the not in those days. It would wouldn't
have been movies, but it would have been like acting
in plays and just traveling entertainment, like a traveling circus.

(49:16):
That was something that Christians and Muslims did not engage in.
Jews did so over time, Jews did become bankers, Jews
did become entertainers. Jews did eventually take control. I mean
I actually learned this in film school, man. I learned
in film school that other than Charlie Chaplin, and he
might have even been Jewish. I don't think he was.
But other than Charlie Chaplin, every movie house in Hollywood.

Speaker 3 (49:37):
Was run by Jewish people.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
Is because that was the only field that was really
acceptable for Jews.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
To engage in outside of banking. But then the banks.

Speaker 4 (49:44):
Also collude with the with the movie houses, and that's
why you just see this endless stream of garbage that
comes out of Hollywood, because it has an endless financial base.
It doesn't matter if you go see it or not. Okay,
So in understanding that, we see that there are these
anti Semitic laws that are put in place, we see
the caricature of the jew that developed. We see Jews

(50:06):
also get into what law. Jews get into things like medicine.
There's nothing wrong with that. So do Hindu, so do Chinese.
It's a cultural thing. These are good jobs.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Again, I like to remind you this is not speaking
to jew the Jewish people. This is to the small
group of powerful individuals that try they're trying to currently
take over the world and have been since the dawning
of whatever. This group of powerful people are, And it's
not any specific race, it's not any specific religion. They,

(50:42):
like you said, have some very dark practices that most
of the rest of the world is not down with,
and they're trying to subject and force the world to
be a part of it all as we speak, because
at some point this group became very powerful and infiltrated

(51:05):
all the other groups globally and it just became this network.
And now this network is trying to protect itself with
terms like anti semitism, which makes this a very dangerous conversation.
So I just had to throw it out at there.

Speaker 4 (51:21):
I know, it's almost like you have to add in
some kind of disclaimer every two seconds and a conversation
like this because people, Yeah, right, so what do we
call bankers, what do we call lawyers? What do we
call these people? We call them bloodsuckers. That's a colloquial
term we use. Well, what's a bloodsucker? Vampire? And what
would that probably derive from? Well, maybe the practice of
sucking the blood out of a child, right, so they

(51:43):
call that blood libel. Once again, it's not blood libel.
It's a historical fact and it's on the New York
City Department of Health website. Okay, so understanding all that,
we can go to that question of what you brought
up with Hitler and why there's this resurgence of all
Hitler was right.

Speaker 3 (51:58):
It wasn't just the chat pot.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
I don't think it's necessarily right wing groups. I think
even left wingers think this too. But yes, there are
a lot of people that are going back. I just
talked about this on one of my shows on the
Secret Teachings. A lot of people are going back and saying, oh,
maybe we Hitler was right. See, this is kind of
the problem. If you look at what's happening in Europe,
and if you look at what's happening in the UK
in particular, there's a movement of anti immigration sentiment. People

(52:24):
are tired of the illegal immigration. But you isolate an
individual and you talk to them, Okay, there's a difference.
The average person understands. I think almost everybody understands there's
a difference between legal and illegal immigration.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:40):
But when people are worked up and they're going to
hotels to rip migrants out of the hotels and they're
going to beat people up or whatever it is that
they're doing, they're tired of the illegal immigrants.

Speaker 3 (52:50):
They're tired of being.

Speaker 4 (52:51):
Treated like second, third or fourth class citizens in their
own country. They don't distinguish between what's legal and illegal.
And right now their attention is focused on Muslims. Oh,
it's the Muslims that are the problem.

Speaker 3 (53:02):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
And there absolutely are radical, crazy, psychotic Muslims. Okay, but
there are radical crazy psychotic Christians. And I know that
it's not acceptable to say this, but I will say
that there are a radical crazy psychotic.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Jews as well. Okay.

Speaker 4 (53:16):
Now this is this all I think comes together because
if you look at World War two and prior to
World War two, and if you look at the nineteen
twenties in Germany, there was a big problem in Germany.
The problem in Germany began in the late or the
early twenties, in the late twenties. It peaked in the
late twenties. So after World War One, Germany is broke,
Germany is in ruins. Essentially, they were made to take

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responsibility for this First World War, and communists tried their
Bolshevik Revolution in Germany like they did in Russia. It
didn't take so instead they engaged in other practices. They
took control of schools, they took control of medicine and
the legal system, and the Sexual Institute of Science or

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the Institute of Sexual Science run by Magnus Hirschfield. All
the schools in Berlin, the Red schools, all of them,
this isn't a theory. All of them were run by
Jewish people. So you can see that. If you're the
public sitting back and looking at the illegal immigration today,
what do you see. You see hajiebs, you see Muslims,

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and you say it's the Muslims that are the problem.
You don't distinguish between your average Muslim and what you see,
which most of those people aren't even Muslims. They just
wearing I mean, I've seen people arrested at universities that
were wearing head scarfs and you take the head scarves
off and they have yamakas on, okay.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
So it's not like they're all Muslim, Okay.

Speaker 4 (54:41):
So that's really important because in Germany in the thirties,
when people finally got fed up with the illegal immigration
and with all the perversity in the smut, you know,
Berlin became the.

Speaker 3 (54:53):
Hub of the gay movement.

Speaker 4 (54:55):
In the twenties, Pornography, the degrading of the family, child
abuse like child pornography, pedophilia. These things became huge in
Germany in the twenties. People rebelled against that. Hitler was
elected unanimously because he was a populist who said, we
are done with this garbage. He wrote minekompf, I've read it.

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That's what he talks about. Now, the Holocaust. Get this,
the Holocaust Encyclopedia says. If you go on line and
read the Holocaust Encyclopedia, it says that no, the Germans never,
the Nazis, never had an intention to kill Jews. In fact,
they tried to encourage Jews to immigrate out of the Reich.
Why because they were there illegally. Most of them were

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illegal immigrants into Germany.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
When the encouragement.

Speaker 4 (55:45):
Failed, this is the Holocaust Encyclopedia speaking, not me. When
the encouragement failed, they moved to more aggressive tactics like
forcing them to leave. Those tactics involved rounding them up
and putting them in camps that were transitory camps. That
eventually led to what we know as Israel today. And
that was an agreement made called Havara between the Nazi

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establishment and the Palestinian authority to found the State of Israel,
which also came from the Balfour Declaration of the British Right.
So when that was going on, there was also this
ongoing communist revolution revolutionary They were called the Anti Fascist
Action League and they were the precursor to the modern Antifa.
And when those people were rounded up and put in

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prison or in camps, guess what they happened to be.
Most of them were Jewish. So they rounded up communists,
but most of the communists were Jewish. They rounded up
illegal immigrants, but a lot of the illegal immigrants were Jewish.
Now you can see the same thing happening today. We
go after Islam. We go after it's the Muslims. It's
the Muslims. It's the Muslims. Now that could break two ways.
That could break one way where we start rounding Muslims

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up and we start a holy war, or it could
break the other way. And when people read about Hias
highest the group that's facilitating the illegal immigration, the US
and the UK realize, oh, hias is a Jewish group.
We might turn our attention to Jewish people and say
they're the problem, They're creating this problem, it's not the Muslims,
and go after them instead. So there are two horrible

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things that could happen here where we eventually we get
to a point where we target an individual. We've already
done that with Islam, and we're either going to continue
doing that with Islam and go to war with the
Islamic world, or we're going to turn our attention to
Jews and go to war with the Jewish world, and
we're going to see the same thing happened that we
saw in the twenties, thirties and forties in Europe and
also globally. This is so dangerous, Okay, this is so

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incredibly dangerous, And if you look at the history of this,
you realize even the encyclopedia of the Holocaust and Holocaust
museums admit this. The Nazis never had an intention to
kill Jews. They were trying to move the legal immigrants
out of their country. So if you go back and
you say Hitler was right about that, he was right
about that. They didn't want illegal immigrants in their country.

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That was one of the big issues. They didn't want
all this garbage in their media. It was smut, it
was pornography, It was degrading German women, it was degrading
German families, it was teaching children that.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Sex with adults was okay.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
Hitler banned that's what the first books they banned that
were that material. So if you look at what Ron
de Sandez is doing in Florida, he's not I don't
think he's an extreme far right winger. He's an average
guy who said, we're not going to put this smut
in perversity in the schools. We are banning these books.
We can't have pornography given to children. And people say,

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just like Hitler. Actually, yeah, that's accurate. He is just
like Hitler because Hitler banned the pornography and the smut
for kids. That's exactly accurate. Now, that doesn't mean that
what Hitler did.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
After that was right.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Okay, But again people don't like with the legal and
illegal immigration. When they're worked up in a mob, they
don't distinguish between Hitler being right about banning the pornography
in the smut and ending this movement to make everybody
gay in Germany, because that was what the movement was, like,
everybody's gay, everybody has sex with everybody. It was just
basically worse than a Roman orgy. You go beyond that

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and things when you can't get the people out of
your country, when you're going to war with them in
your country, when there's basically a civil war breaking out,
when you have communists, subversive movements like Antifa, which is
again nineteen thirties Germany, that's where they come from. You
can look up their flag. It's the identical flag, except
that it has two red flags rather than a red and
black flag. Now they're like anarchico communists. You look through

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all that, it's like, well, clearly the Nazis didn't just
come to power one day and thought, Okay, we hate Jews,
We're gonna kill Jews. It's not that simple. And the
simple fact that history history has shown us that through
all the book, like historians have told us that, movies
have told us that, oh, there was no reason for
the Nazis hating Jews. There was no reason for the
Nazis to do what they did. No, there's always a reason.

(59:45):
And when you understand that reason, a couple of things happen.
You either think, well, Hitler was right, which is insane.
Hitler was not right, but he was right about a
few things. Hell, even Joe Biden was right about a
few things. But Barack Obama was right about a few
Bush was right about a few things. Clock is accurate
a couple of times, right, So it's the same kind
of a thing. And I think the overlying point to

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conclude my thoughts on this, and maybe I would love
to see what you think about what I'm saying, because
I understand how offensive and everybody's like, oh my god,
I don't want to hear this. I think the point
is you cannot ignore the important contextual details of history,

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because due to the fact that we have ignored that,
or we've had it kept from us, we are in
a position now to repeat it, and to repeat it
in ways that are far worse than anything the Nazis did,
far worse than anything the Nazis did, because the Nazis
did not have the spy system that we have, the
technology that we have. If you look at what the

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White House alone has done colluding with pharmaceutical companies pain
influencers to promote those products, or colluding with corporations like
Amazon to sensor certain in books, or colluding with the
media and forcing them and basically demanding and instructing them
to censor certain stories. Those are the definitions of fascism.

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According to Benito, Mussolini. So that's not even something that
people recognize because nobody.

Speaker 3 (01:01:17):
Reports on that hardly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:19):
You don't read about that until there's a lawsuit or
until some citizen journalist finds the documents and points it out.
In Germany, they were very proud of what they were
doing and the people were mostly behind it. Today there's
no pride in what they're doing. I mean, except for
the Pride movement. Today, it's just no, we didn't do anything.

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We're fighting the fascists. We believe in equality.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:43):
Well, it's like George Carlin said, when fascism comes to America,
it's going to come with a smiley faced T shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
This is the danger that we faced in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Yeah, I am right on board with all of that. Man.
The problem with even trying to get into deep understanding
with all of this is once you can see what's unfolding,
you can't go back. That's first of all, and the

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question is how do you navigate forward from here? Amongst
the polarities. You can try and stay in the middle
ground as much as possible, but then the dark polarities
get darker and darker to where it becomes impossible to
even remotely align with some of the ideologies that keep
you in the middle, so you're pushed further and further

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to that side that has extremes, fundamentalists, extremes that cause
problems on the far right side, on the side that
is seemingly more on the side of humanity than the other.
So it becomes extremely difficult to navigate this and the
more it unfolds, the more it seems that ultimately, if

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we don't pick aside, it either means destruction or exile
or your life is not going to be made easy
at the least. So we're in a very extremely important,
interesting times and this is such an important discussion. Yes,
that's what happens, So you know this is I think

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these discussions are essential right now so that we can
first of all become aware of what's happening and then
make our decisions on how to navigate based on that.
And some of these truths hurt, but they are truths
nonetheless any and we all need to hear them right now.
So Ryan, thank you so much. This was fantastic. Is

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there anything else that you'd like to throw out there
before we close out today, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
If you don't mind, there's one other example. I wanted
to give.

Speaker 4 (01:03:50):
So if you look at the more polarity between Russia
Ukraine and how the Democrats support that. Republicans perceptually are
opposed to it, but they actually participate by continuing to
give them money, weapons. But on the surface, Republicans are
against it Israel Palestine, Democrats are opposed to it, but
the Republicans are for it. And the Democrats, even though

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they're opposed to it, a lot of them are very
opposed to it. On the surface, a lot of Democrats
also support it. Give them weapons, give them money. So
I think the polarity there is interesting because I want
to point this what I wanted to point out to you.
I think it was the Jerusalem Post that reported this
fifty percent plus of every campaign dollar that goes into

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the Democrat coffer comes from a member of.

Speaker 3 (01:04:39):
The Jewish group.

Speaker 4 (01:04:41):
Okay, Jews account for fifty percent of all the donations
of the Democrat Party or more. Why is it then
that the Democrats perceptually hate Israel. That's a weird question
I've been grappling with. Why is that and why is
it that when we learned about the sam Bankman fried
Fti scam, we learned that all this money that was

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being given to Ukraine and on the Republicans that are like,
no more money to Ukraine. Why is it that Republicans
were getting kickbacks from that money that it was laundered
to Ukraine, that was ending up back into the pockets
of members of Congress Republican and Democratic.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Kind of makes you have to ask the question, is
there a puppet master pulling strings on both sides right now?
I mean, that's what everything points to.

Speaker 3 (01:05:23):
It sounds like that. It does sound like that, doesn't it.

Speaker 4 (01:05:25):
And I should ask rhetorically, I should ask this, does
every Does anybody know where the gay capital of the
world is today? It's not a derogatory thing, it's it's
just a real question. Like the gay capital of the
world today is tel Aviv?

Speaker 2 (01:05:40):
Is I heard this?

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Twenty five percent?

Speaker 2 (01:05:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:05:42):
I heard this.

Speaker 4 (01:05:43):
Twenty five percent of the population is homosexual or LGBTQ.
That's twenty It's one out of four. That's the largest
of any population in the world. Like it's one to
two per maybe maybe five percent in some places like
San Francisco you might get a higher percentage, but it's
one out of four.

Speaker 3 (01:05:59):
And Tel Aviv.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
Do you know where the gay capital of the world
was in the nineteen twenties Berlin interesting communists. Communists, Berlin
was the gay capital. So what is the main focus
of the Democrat Party. They're focused on a couple of
big things. Immigration, abortion, LGBTQ. Okay, so immigration is being

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run by highest largely in the US and the UK.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
That is a Jewish group.

Speaker 4 (01:06:26):
Abortion, Well, the Talmud says that the fundamentalists, the fundamentalist
Jewish people can kill gentiles and it's acceptable. Who are
most of the abortions performed on Well, they're actually forty
percent of them are black women, but the rest of
them are Hispanic and white and others. And that would
mean that we have a lot of gentile babies killed.

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But the Democrats are big supporters of that, and they're
also big supporters of LGBTQ.

Speaker 3 (01:06:50):
Where's the capital of that, Tel Aviv, Israel.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
So don't sit there for a minute and suggest to
me that the Democrats are opposed in any way, shape
or form to Israel. They work for Israel more than
the Republicans do. And I think that that's statistically and
financially verifiable too, because the Republicans only receive about twenty
five percent of their money from Israel, fifty plus percent
from Democrats or four Democrats comes from Israel, and they

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just happen to support abortion and immigration and LGBTQ, three
big issues in Israel. I don't find that to be coincidental.
And I also don't find it to be coincidental that
why the Republicans run around saying we got to support Israel,
or the Democrats run around saying we got to support Ukraine.
Ukraine also is being built into what Zelensky, who's Jewish,

(01:07:36):
says is the greater Israel. So I don't understand why
at the center of all this it just seems to
be a dog and pony show for a very small
group of people that take on an identity that has
nothing to do with a religion. There is a and
for the record too, if you go back and you
read the Talmude and the Sanhedrinhedron was the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:00):
Board of the rabbis.

Speaker 4 (01:08:02):
All the rabbis had to be well versed in one thing,
black magic. They had to be necromancers, they had to
understand how to do these things. I think that has
spilt over into the world today. I think that that's
when we see this kind of perverse, disgusting crap on
TV and in media. There is a powerful force that,

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like Churchill said, once, to destroy civilization. It doesn't matter
if it's an Israel and Palestine, it doesn't matter if
it's Ukraine Russia.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
They want war.

Speaker 4 (01:08:33):
And by God, the last time that this stuff became
popular and trending, which the talmude was trending on Twitter
last week or x, we had.

Speaker 3 (01:08:40):
A global conflict.

Speaker 4 (01:08:42):
And I do not think that we are going to
escape another global conflict. I think we're going to see
a global war sooner than later because of these conditions,
because of how obvious it's becoming that there is this black, powerful,
black magic force that's operating. These people do not I mean,
look last thing, look at what happened in Ukraine. I
mean the Russians even pointed this out. The the Azov Battalion,

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which are literal Nazis, the Azov Battalion that works under Zelenski.
They perform old Nazi rituals. There's videos of this. They
use black magic symbols on their barracks. This is not
just a political war or a physical war. This is
a magical war, a supernatural war, It's not something that's

(01:09:27):
confined to the battlefield of brother versus brother, father versus
you know, son or something. This is a very dark,
supernatural thing. So on that note, thank you so much
for having me on the show. I really appreciate it.
If anybody wants to reach out to me, my email
is TST radio at ProtonMail dot com. The website is
the Secret Teachings dot info.

Speaker 2 (01:09:47):
Thank you, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:48):
Roan. Yeah, I agree with that one hundred percent. This
is a spiritual battle that we're fighting, and that is
to me, one of the most important aspects to get
across people. So this is something that we have to face.
And even if you don't believe in those spiritual ritualistic practices,

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very powerful people do and they are using it as
we speak, so there's always that aspect. Ryan, thank you
so much. We will definitely be talking again and until
now today, I want to welcome back to the show
Brandon Williams. He is a State National of California, author,
common law lawyer, and founder of the Amnesty Coalition, a

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group that aims to address the slave state framework that's
created by webs of legal contracts and documents like birth certificates,
social Security cards, and the US citizen fraud system. After
a successful career in sales and marketing, he is now
devoting his full time work to research and experimentation in

(01:10:53):
becoming a state national Brandon, welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:10:59):
Good man, got to be back.

Speaker 3 (01:11:00):
Thank you to have you back.

Speaker 1 (01:11:01):
You have essential information that everyone really needs to hear,
especially when we're entering these times where the system that
we used to rely on quite stupidly is now crumbling
more and more on a daily basis. There's a lot
of exciting things happening, and today we're going to deeper

(01:11:23):
examine the process of exiting this matrix system that continues
to attempt to slowly destroy humanity and it really just
prevents us from having our human experience that we deserve.
So you have a new presentation that we're going to
get into. Can't wait to get into this. Before we
delve into that, just remind the audience that may not

(01:11:46):
have seen your last appearance a little bit about yourself
and your work.

Speaker 2 (01:11:51):
Yeah, I don't, like I said before the show, I
don't remember exactly everything we went over. If it's been
more than a year, a lot has happened, a lot
has changed. It's the same basic idea. It's just that
now we're doing a lot of mainline litigation to kind
of push these things home. A lot of successes, a
lot of things have I'm trying to think a year
So what we're this is April twenty twenty four, so

(01:12:15):
a year ago would have been April twenty twenty three. Yeah,
lots lots happened since April.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Twenty It may have even been late twenty twenty two
when you were on, but it was around that time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:28):
Yeah, that's it. That feels like one hundred years ago. Yeah,
lots literally so so yeah, but it's gotten cleaner, it's
gotten faster, it's gotten better. I don't know if I
did a whole presentation last time, but.

Speaker 1 (01:12:43):
No, we just discussed present were working on last time.

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
But looking forward to Oh well, if that's the case,
then this is this is going to be a real
mind blower for a lot of people because I've gotten
this thing down to about forty five minutes or so
of a presentation and yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 (01:12:58):
Just roll out if you want, Oh, let's do it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:02):
So yeah, I was just in Austin, Texas doing a
whole bunch of shows. I did kel Callahan. I just
did Crow seven seven seven. I did uh Luke's Story.
I just released a show with Alex Zech which is
like amazing, really great show. Him and I have a
lot of good chemistry. He's really familiar with a lot

(01:13:23):
of this work. And I was on Kyle Kingsbury. I'll
probably be on Aubrey Marcus soon. So I'm I'm pretty
excited to kind of take this I have. I go
on a lot of conspiracy shows, which has been kind
of like my thing for a long time, like maybe
a year. Almost everything I go on is some some
some sort of conspiracy related this or that. But now

(01:13:45):
I'm starting to bleed into the mainstream quite a bit,
which is which I'm really excited about. I'm happy, you know,
because my whole purpose is just to make sure that
as many people as possible see this information as quickly
as possible in the most an exciting and assimilatable way possible. Right,
I don't really care about the platform or anything really

(01:14:06):
of that sort. I'll even go on left leaning, right leaning.
I don't care what it is. If they want to
hear it, I'm going to go on there, you know,
I mean, so where we'll start here is I will
show you guys. This is a presentation on nationality, citizenship,
and taxation, how to no longer have any tax liability,
and how to get out of the system, how you

(01:14:28):
got into the system, and how easy it is to
fix all that. Okay, So first off, twenty eight USC.
Three thousand and two. So the way this works is
the first number is the title. So if you go
to the US Code, you can see here it goes
by title, and each title is a different subject of
different things to speak about and talk about. Right title

(01:14:50):
twenty eight, If you go down to the bottom here
you can see here Title twenty eight is judiciary and
judicial procedure. So Title twenty eight of the United States Code,
Section it's a section symbol three thousand and two. We're
going to go down to sub section fifteen, Definition A.
It says here a United States means a federal corporation,

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and the word federal is capitalized, which is also has
significance to it. Right now, if we go to Title
twenty six, which is the Internal Revenue Code, the tax Code,
We're going to go to section seven seven zero one,
Subsection A one. This is a very very important term,
probably the most important term you will ever learn in

(01:15:32):
all of law. The term person shall be construed to
mean and include an individual, a trust, estate, partnership, association, company,
or corporation. So United States is a person. That person

(01:15:54):
is a federal corporation. All corporations are persons. Okay, And
this is why in a criminal case you'll see at
the top of the criminal case it'll always say United
States versus John Doe. Yeah, United States is a person. Huh.
Now we're gonna find out where is that person located.

(01:16:19):
We're gonna go to UCC Section nine Dash three zero
seven Location of Debtor, Location of Person, Subsection h Location
of United States. The United States is located in the
District of Columbia. Now, we don't know where. We don't

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know what size, we don't know what section, We don't
know what coordinates. It could be a circle, it could
be a star, it could be a start. We have
absolutely no idea the size and scope of where inside
the District of Columbia, United States is located. And I
don't think anybody else knows either. I've never seen the

(01:17:00):
information that clarifies it any farther than this. Meaning, let's
say you were born in the Washington, d C. The
District of Columbia, and someone said, oh, you were born
in the United States, Well, they would have to prove that.
And I don't think it's provable at all, to be
honest with you, I don't think the physical boundary delineation

(01:17:20):
of where United States is actually located within the territorial
boundaries of the unit of the District of Columbia has
ever been published. So I don't think it's provable. I
do not physically think it's provable at all. United States
is a corporation, so it would fit the definition of
the term person. Got you Starbucks is a person. Shell

(01:17:47):
Gas Incorporated is a person, you know, like a law firm,
like a like a you know Chardle, one of the
guys names Chardle, one of the guys that tried to
sue me. That was funny. Let's say Chardle and Williamson,
you know, LP would be a person. It would be

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an association or a partnership. Right. An LLC is a
person because it's a limited liability company, say company. Those
are all persons. Okay, now we're going to find out
if we've already figured out that United States is a
federal corporation, which is a person located in the distion

(01:18:35):
of Columbia. We have no idea where I don't think
anyone on the planet really knows. Now we're going to
find out how that relates to the term United States citizen. Okay, Now,
if you look at so this is forty two USC.
Ninety one O two Subsection eighteen. Now, this is interesting
because you can see here more evidence as to what

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I've already said. United States citizen means any corporation, partnership, association,
or other entity organized or existing under the laws of
the United States. So Starbucks is by definition a United
States citizen, Chase Bank is by definition a United States citizen.

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It's a person. Microsoft is by definition a United States citizen.
Apple is by definition a United States citizen. Which is
a total mind fuck. But this is the proof to
show you that what I'm talking about, the fact that

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it is a corporation or a corporation is a person.
Person can be a United States citizen. Okay. Now, the
one that we're going to look at here though, is
this first one. This is when we're talking about an
individual is not an entity such as an estate partnership, association, company, trust, corporation,
we have an individual, so any individual who is a

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citizen of the United States by law birth or naturalization.
Law means by contract, operating under the laws of meaning
that you volunteered and to you know, operate under the
laws of the United States. Birth means you were born
in the district of Columbia. But even that is very
easy to defend against because where in the district of Columbia.

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I don't think anyone knows, uh, So that's really easy
to combat. Then we have this term naturalization and a
lot most people have heard this term. Nobody knows what
that term means. We're going to go to find that
definition of that term, and it's going to shock you.
You think you're shocked so far. If this is all
news and for those this is about.

Speaker 1 (01:20:51):
For those listening on the audio side, if you'd like
to see the vo presentation, please tune in to Rumble
or Rock Fin and that's where you can check that out.

Speaker 2 (01:21:02):
Yeah, this one here. I do understand that this is
going to be very difficult to swallow if you think
the first part is usually the first parts. I've given
this presentation one hundreds of times. The United States being
a person and a corporation and how that works. That's
usually pretty easy to swallow. This part is usually where
a huge percentage of the audience starts to fall down.

(01:21:25):
They just can't believe it. It can't be. There's no way. Now.
When I first learned about this definition of naturalization, I
walked around for literally sixty days in a haze. I
couldn't believe it. I was trying to figure out how
it could be, how it couldn't be. Am I missing something?
Is there is secret definition. There are a lot of

(01:21:46):
secret definitions. There is a lot of digging that's required,
and a lot of these things. This particular definition I'm
about ready to show you does not fit that category.
I recommend that you should dig into it for yourself.
This is going to hit you about as hard as
Mike Tyson. Okay. Definition of naturalization comes from eight USC

(01:22:06):
one one zero one, Subsection A twenty three. The term
naturalization means the conferring of nationality of a state upon
a person after birth by any means whatsoever. Now, like

(01:22:30):
I said, you're gonna most people, and I was one
of them, you're gonna need thirty to sixty days of
mulling this around in your head to realize this is
the most insane thing most people have ever heard in
their entire lives, because we're gonna break down this definition,
and we're gonna break down every single word in this definition.
But I feel that this definition really is the secret

(01:22:52):
to everything personally so far, so far in my research. Okay,
and I didn't know about this definition back when I
did the Free Contract Killer course. This came afterward, right,
But a lot of the stuff that I talk about
in the Free Contract Killer course all fits into this.
But this is a much simpler, easier, more direct explanation
as to how all this works. Okay, so conferring they're

(01:23:12):
actually referring to the normal dictionary definition on this. It's
just bestowing an honor upon or a characteristic, very simple.
We'll go over nationality of a state. We're going to
go over what that means state in just a moment,
upon a person. You can see the word person here
is clickable. There's a slightly different definition for title eight,

(01:23:32):
but it means the same thing as Title twenty six.
We're going to click that word. You'll see here. The
term person means an individual or an organization, and that
definition the source for that definition is right here on
the upper right eight USC one one zero one, subsection
B three B as a boy. Okay, it's the same
thing as the title twenty six definition. It's just that

(01:23:54):
instead of clearly delineating each type of entity, they just
say individual organization. But it's the same definition. Okay, after
birth by any means whatsoever. So if the term person
could mean an organization, then the term birth would mean
the date that the organization was brought into being would

(01:24:16):
be the birth of that organization. Okay, so let's reread
this again. I'm going to replace the word person with
individual or organization. The term naturalization means the conferring of
nationality of a state upon an individual or organization after

(01:24:37):
birth by any means whatsoever. Okay. Now, what we're going
to do is we're going to start digging into what
the definition of the word state means. We're going to
go on to my website and we're going to go
down to look at some definitions. Here. So we have

(01:24:59):
the definition the word state from black Slaw means here,
and now this is I could show you all the
Black's Law, but this is just my website. It's for
these presentations. It takes too long to dig through Black's Law,
So if you would like to verify these, please look
in Blackslaw yourself and the definitions will tell you here
which edition it comes from, so you can feel free,

(01:25:19):
obviously to double check all of my definitions to make
sure that They'm not living in a space Cadet world.
So from Blackslaw, sixth edition, the term state in its
largest sense, a state is a body politic or society
of men. Pretty awful definition in my opinion. So we're
going to go up to body politic. Body politic from Blackslaw,
fourth edition means state or nation or public associations. Pretty

(01:25:44):
awful definition. So I went and I said, okay, what
is nation? Then I'm just trying to dig this down
to try to find the definition that actually makes sense
right now. I dug around, and state and nation mean
the same thing. So I was digging around and I
found this court case where they define the term naation
in a way where it finally made sense to me,
and it's beautiful. It's a life changing definition. It's about

(01:26:06):
as life changing as the definition of naturalization. So nation
or state means the same thing. That definition is an
independent body politic a society of men united together for
the purpose of promoting their mutual safety and advantage by
the joint efforts of their combined strength. But every combination

(01:26:29):
of men who govern themselves independently of all others will
not be considered a nation. A body of pirates, for example,
who govern themselves, are not a nation. To constitute a nation,
another ingredient is required. The body thus formed must respect
other nations in general, and each of their members in particular.

(01:26:51):
Such a society has her affairs and her interests, She
deliberates and takes resolutions in common, thus becoming a moral person.
Moral person who possesses an understanding and will peculiar to herself,
and is susceptible of obligations and rights. Now we're going
to break all this down. It's very, very simple. It's

(01:27:14):
just like the human body is composed of a bunch
of cells that kind of come together and cohes into
one big collection or group or body. Right, it's the
same thing. It's a bunch of individual people who come
together and they operate as a group, and they have
good internal operations and internal tranquility, and they issue good

(01:27:34):
tranquility and good relations externally to their body. That's it.
That is the definition of the termination. Now the termination
has nothing to do with territory or location or coordinates nothing.
There's no such thing as land involved for a nation
or anything. It's just a bunch of people who operate together.

(01:27:55):
So your podcast is by definition a nation. It is
an independent body politic it is a society of men
united together for the purpose of promoting their mutual safety
and advantage by the joint of Allah and going on.
So a nation is just an idea. A nation is
not a location. For example, United Nations. United Nations is

(01:28:20):
not a location, it's an idea. If you go into
the Foreign Affairs Manual, which is the manual that goes
into how the passport works, we go to eight fiveh
five dot two, and you scroll down to the endorsement
section speaking about various passport endorsements and diplomatic passports and
all sorts of good stuff. If you scroll down to

(01:28:42):
and I have it here on the video version of this,
but I'll talk about it on the audio version clearly
so that the audio people can get it. It says
here for Diplomatic Code Endorsement number eleven, the bearer is
Ambassador at Large four, and then it says title. Then
if you go down to the example they give for
the types of titles that you could give them, Ambassador

(01:29:04):
at large for Global Women's Issues. Global women's issues is
not a location, it is a nation. You can be
an ambassador at large and get a diplomatic passport for

(01:29:24):
your nation. Everyone in the Forbidden News nation, Forbidden Knowledge nation,
can can be an ambassador at large for the Forbidden
Knowledge nation. And people ask me, oh, well, that's about
to bs and no one will ever bow lah lah,
and they'll they'll never bow allah lah lah. Well, here's

(01:29:46):
the truth of it. What is the definition of a
foreign nation or foreign government? H and USC eleven gives
you that definition. The term foreign government includes any government, faction,
or body of insurgents within a country with which the
United States is at peace, irrespective of recognition by the

(01:30:09):
United States. They don't need to recognize you. You're starting
to see this in the media. They're starting to talk
about micro nations and that kind of thing and how
they're not recognized, blah blah blah blah. You don't need recognition.
That is not at all hearts of So they say, oh,

(01:30:31):
they're not recognized hoping that you will believe that means
it's not real. But when you look in the United
States Code, recognition is not part of what is needed
for a nation or foreign government to be real. It's
completely irrelevant. Let's say we were in a courtroom and
they said, and I have I have my own nation
called the Nation of the MSCY Coalition. Let's say they said, oh,

(01:30:53):
the Nation of the MBSCY Coalition is not beneficially recognized.
I would say objection immediately, and I would say recognition
is not required at all as a legal prerequisite to
me having the nation, and I would show them eighteen
USC eleven and it would be sustained by the judge.
It's not an aspect of a nation at all, has

(01:31:15):
nothing to do with anything. We're all just so brainwashed
to go and suck the tit of mommy and daddy
that we think we need to be bestowed the ability
or honor or right to have our own government or
to have our own nation. It's completely false. It is
a brainwashed, fixed, false idea that we all have in

(01:31:39):
our head. That the United States Code is very clear,
has absolutely nothing to do with it. The only element
that you have to have in order to have your
own foreign government is you have to be at peace.
That is all. Recognition has nothing to do with it. Now,

(01:32:02):
the most intelligent question to ask yourself at this point
is what is the definition of peace? Well, I've got
that for you too, right here. The word peace and
the word nation has almost the same definition, which is
really beautiful, and it proves out what we're trying to do.
Peace is defined as the tranquility enjoyed by a political

(01:32:24):
society internally by the good order which reigns among its members,
and externally by the good understanding it has with all
other nations. Applied to the internal regulations of a nation.
Peace imports, which means imports means like shows or indicates

(01:32:44):
peace imports in a technical sense, not merely a state
of repose and security as opposed to one of violence
or warfare, but likewise a state of public order and
decor so peace essentially is the same thing good internal relations,

(01:33:05):
good external relations. And then it goes a little farther
and describes it even more and says public order and decorum,
which means diplomatic relations. Diplomatic relations equals peace. Peace equals
foreign government or nation. That is the entire mathematical equation.
And again for people who are still like, oh, this

(01:33:28):
is all blah, this is all blah, you have the
United Nations Declaration of Human Rights. Now, I know that
people are not too fond of the United Nations, but anyways,
this is very useful for this subject, specifically Article fifteen.
Everyone has the right to a nationality. No one shall

(01:33:53):
be arbitrarily deprived of his nationality, nor denied the right
to change his nationality. No one can stop you from
having your own nation. It is an international human rights
violation to do so. As long as you are at peace,

(01:34:15):
you have your own nation. That nation is a foreign
government as long as you are at peace, and relation
to your relationship with the United States, see the power
of naturalization. You deliver or create that nation by simply
conferring the nationality of that nation upon yourself or even
other people after birth, by any means whatsoever. So now

(01:34:39):
we're going to go back to and I'm going to
show you a little evidence on this, and again it's
another group that people are gonna freak out about if
they're in the conspiracy theory world or conspiracy world or
whatever you want to call it. I don't know a
lot about this group. I don't care. I use this
group specifically as an example of a completely foreign nation

(01:35:00):
that issues its own passports, its own driver's license, its
own license plates, while not actually having any land or
roads at all whatsoever. And it's all legal, and other
nations accept their passports and their licenses, and it shows
and proves that you do not need land in order
to have your own separate nation or foreign government. That

(01:35:21):
group is called the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. They
have their own website. It is Order of Malta dot
I n T, which probably stands for international. This is
a completely sovereign nation. Then that nation does not have

(01:35:45):
any land at all whatsoever. People think, do you need
land to have your own nation? Absolutely not. This group
is living proof. Okay, now we're gonna head back and
we're gonna reread this term again. Now naturalization, now that
we've gone on that whole long rabbit hole. The term

(01:36:07):
naturalization means the conferring of nationality of a state upon
a person after birth by any means whatsoever. So, how

(01:36:29):
did you wind up in the United States, which is
located in the District of Columbia. We don't know where.
How did you wind it up in this unknown place?
How did you wind up in this dark forest where
no one even knows where you are anymore, and they
don't even know where it is? How did you wind
up there by simply saying you're there? Period? How do

(01:36:51):
you leave that unknown place, that unknown forest that no
one knows where it's at? Inside the district of Columbia?
You simply say or confer the nationality of a different
state upon yourself and tell them you're no longer a
part of that state. You're now a part of this state.
State could be one of the fifty states. It could
be anything you make up. It could be any nation.

(01:37:14):
It could be anything. It could be the Forbidden Knowledge nation.
There is absolutely nothing. It's an international human rights violation
for them to attempt to stop you from doing that,
And as long as you're at peace, they don't even care.
They don't even want to hear about it. Now you

(01:37:38):
are a foreign gun.

Speaker 1 (01:37:39):
Does this cause any hindrances with participating in any normal
commerce or activities that we would enjoy as the citizen
of the United States? Is there anything that we would
not be able to participate in?

Speaker 2 (01:37:59):
No, and that's a great question. That's the next part
of the presentation, So let's get into that right now.
So you have an I nine Employment Eligibility Verification form.
This is what people fill out when they get a
new job. Quite often, I will show the form on
the video, but if you're on audio, you'll just have
to remember it's a white piece of paper and ask

(01:38:20):
you some questions about your citizenship and nationality in this section. Here,
check one of the falling boxes to attest to your
citizenship or immigration status. Box one is the one that
everyone always checks. A citizen of the United States, which
by the way, is naturalization. When you fill out a
nine nine and you say that you are a citizen

(01:38:41):
of the United States, you are conferring the nationality of
United States upon a person, meaning yourself after birth, by
any means whatsoever. You were not a United States citizen
until you said that. You either were a resident of
the United States or you were a city of the
United States. You weren't a citizen or a resident until

(01:39:03):
you said you were. Once you said you were, you were,
that's naturalization. Now box number two is a non citizen
national of the United States. Now what does that mean?
We're going to go back to the same place. Or
we saw the definition of naturalization eight USC one one

(01:39:24):
zero one subsection A twenty three. We're going to go
just a touch above that to A twenty one. The
term national means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.
The word person has the same definition title eight, which
means an individual or an organization. The term state and

(01:39:47):
nation mean the same thing. So we can replace some
of those words. We can make it simpler. We have
this term permanent here. It is blue and clickable. We're
going to click on that. This term means nothing, and
I will prove that to you now. The term permanent
means a relationship of continuing or lasting nature, as distinguished
from temporary. But a relationship may be permanent even though

(01:40:08):
it is one that may be dissolved eventually at the
instance either of the United States or of the individual.
In accordance with law, permanent means nothing. Fuck all, It's
just a It's just a term. Is there to fuck
you up, basically. Okay, So we're gonna remove that the
word permanent, and we're gonna we're gonna swap out the

(01:40:29):
word state with the word nation and We're going to
swap out the word person with the definition from title eight,
and we're going to reread this and it's going to
start to make more sense. The term national means an
individual or organization owing allegiance to a nation. See it now,

(01:40:50):
it's starting to take some shape. Right, national has the
word nation right in it, So nationals, you know, it's
it's one who is in or has allegiance to a nation.
Pretty simple, right, So now what we're going to do
is we're going to look up the definition of allegiance. Okay,

(01:41:12):
so what is how does that work? Right on my website,
I give away a free explanatory statement which is attached
to the d S eleven passport application form. We're going
to go down this. I have a really good explanation
of how this works. Here allegiance from Black's Law, second edition.

(01:41:38):
Here is the definition. By allegiance is meant the obligation
of fidelity and obedience which the individual owes to the
government under which he lives or to his sovereign in
return for the protection he receives. Now, this is the
most important part. It may be an hour, absolute and

(01:42:01):
permanent obligation, or it may be qualified and temporary one. Okay,
now we're gonna look at twenty two USC two one
two persons entitled to passport. You can see here no

(01:42:21):
passport shall be granted to I'm sorry, no passport shall
be granted or issued to, or verified for any other
persons than those owing allegiance, whether citizens or not, to
the United States. We're gonna look at another one. We're

(01:42:43):
gonna look at twenty two CFR fifty one dot two.
CFR stands for the Code of Federal Regulations. Says here
very clearly and subsection A, a passport may be issued
all to a U. S. National. The Passport Office thinks

(01:43:10):
that passports are only issued to US citizens. That is
completely false. A passport may be only issued to a U. S. National. Now,
what is a US national? Going back to eight USC
one one zero one Subsection A twenty one, the term

(01:43:32):
national means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.
We've already cleaned up what all of those words mean.
Permanent means nothing, person means an individual or an organization,
State means nation. Allegiance means fidelity or obligation, which can
be absolute and permanent or qualified and temporary. So now
we're starting to see that. So if we were to
reread this and plug everything in term national, which isn't

(01:43:55):
even capitalized, by the way, kind of interesting. The term
national means an individual or organization owing fidelity or obligation,
absolute or qualified and temporary to a nation. And now
we're starting to see what that really means the term national. Okay,

(01:44:16):
now here we go a twenty two. This is where
the term US national or national of the United States
means the same thing. So U s national or national
of the United States. Those two terms mean the same thing.

(01:44:38):
And remember over here a passport may be issued only
to a US national. So what is a US national means?
A a citizen of the United States or be a
person who, though not a citizen of the United States,

(01:44:59):
owes permanent allegiance to the United States. Now, what do
you need to get to operate a car outside of commerce,
to get bank accounts, to get credit card processing, to
get a home, to get into bars, to get everything
under the sun, moon and stars, and operate entirely normally

(01:45:19):
in the society normally quote unquote, what is the one
thing that you have to have to for travel, for
bank accounts, for credit card processing for for anything that
someone who was born and raised in freaking you know,
Oklahoma or Montana as American as it gets. What is
the one thing that you need to operate in this country? Passport? Okay,

(01:45:45):
not a driver's license. Driver's license is trash. Passport. Passport.
You could do everything with a passport, everything under the sun,
moon and stars. And I can prove that even farther
by going into the I nine again, and we're going
to scroll down, and it says here these are the

(01:46:06):
various documents. Uh, this is for video people, so I'm
gonna say this in a way where the audio people
can get it. So, so on the second page of
the I nine, it says here list of acceptable documents. Okay, Now,
in order to have employment eligibility, you have to prove
identity and employment authorization, right, and there's these three columns.

(01:46:33):
Column A are documents that establish both identity and employment authorization.
List B is documents that establish only identity, and List
C is documents that establish employment authorization only. So in
order to be authorized to be employed, you have to

(01:46:55):
either have one item from list A or one item
from B and C. Because you have to prove identity
which is B and you have to prove employment authorization
which is SEE. But if you have something from list A,
it covers both of those instantaneously. The very first item

(01:47:16):
in list A is US passport or US passport card.
If you look at the d S eleven form, which
is the passport application form to get your passport, you'll
see at the top of the form, this is the
one you'll see at the post office or whatever when

(01:47:37):
you go get your passport. Right at the very very
top of the application, it says select documents for which
you are submitting fees, US Passport book, US Passport card
or both US Passport card. Boom, that's what it looks like. Yeah, now,

(01:48:12):
what do you need to do in order to be
qualified to get a US passport or US passport card?
You have to be a US national. A passport may
be issued only to a US national, So you have
to either be a citizen of the United States or

(01:48:33):
a person who, though not a citizen of the United States,
owes permanent allegiance to the United States. So what do
you need to get a passport? You simply need to
pledge allegiance to the United States. You don't need anything else.
You don't even need to speak English. You don't need
to be located in any of the fifty States or

(01:48:55):
even in North America. You could be in Zimbabwe. Now,
someone who is not a citizen of the United States
does not have a tax liability twenty six. I think
it's CFR one dot eight seven one one. For purposes

(01:49:20):
of the income tax. Alien individuals are divided generally into
two classes, namely resident aliens and non resident aliens. Now,
a US citizen is somebody who has naturalized into United States,
which is located in the District of Columbia. The District
of Columbia is not part of the United States of

(01:49:41):
America and has nothing to do with the Constitution or
the Bill of Rights. The District of Columbia is a
foreign incorporated zone, is basically a giant business campus. So
when you when you've naturalized into United States, you've actually
left the United States of America. Can you no longer
have any rights? You no longer have any Constitution, You

(01:50:02):
no longer have a Second Amendment. So that's why you
need a license to carry a gun or a permit
to buy one. You don't live in the United States
of America. If you live in United States. A resident
alien is somebody who's a resident alien of United States.
A non resident alien is somebody who doesn't live in

(01:50:23):
United States. How do you not live in the United
States by simply saying you don't live there. It's that simple.
Resident alien individuals are in general taxable the same as
citizens of the United States. That is, a resident alien
is taxable on income derived from all sources, including STARSS

(01:50:46):
without the United States. But that's not what happened. You naturalized.
The way that the Internal Revenue Code views that is
the following and I quote. However, non resident alien individuals
may elect to be treated as US residents for the

(01:51:08):
purposes of determining their income tax liability. What that means
is that when you naturalized into United States, you've volunteered
to pay taxes. Y Y. Very easy to fix. You're

(01:51:34):
going to I have a free document on my website.
You can download it. It's called revocation of election, and
the exact terminology is revocation, which means elimination or destruction
of a previous thing or whatever. Revocation of election to
be treated as a US resident for purposes of determining
income tax liability. We go down. We have definitions, we

(01:51:59):
have open statements, we have nationality clarification, and we have
naturalization right here, So we have a statement of naturalization,
we have some financial information, closing statements, and then signature page.
Very simple, the actual body of the document itself. The

(01:52:23):
first half page is just the title and the who
it's from and who it's too. Then you have definitions,
and then you have the statements and the sections and
the whole document itself before the signature page is only
four pages long, and the first half is just the

(01:52:43):
title and the who it's going to and who it's from.
So it's only three and a half pages long, and
you can see here on the fourth page half the
page is empty. So it's basically three pages of actual material,
very short, very simple. You simply download this, you feel,
you change all the information that's required your name and

(01:53:06):
the address and and the social of the person here.
So so the way that the whole thing works, with
this whole corporation thing and all that, is that when
you were born, your your certificate of live birth created
a what's called a public corporation. They opened up a
corporation off your name in all capital letters, right, So

(01:53:26):
you can see that right here, Blacks Law, fourth Edition,
What is the definition of public corporation? A public corporation
is one created by the state for political purposes and
to act as an agency in the administration of civil government.
So when you see your name in all capital letters,
it's actually a different person. Corporation is the person. There's

(01:53:51):
two persons. There's you as the as the individual, and
then there's the all caps name as the public corporation,
which is also a perse on. Both of those persons
can be moved around to the process of naturalization. So
you can move around Brandon Joe Williams and all caps,

(01:54:13):
or you can move around Brandon Joe Williams not all caps.
So the natural person Brandon Joe Williams. I confer the
nationality of the nation of the Amnesty Coalition upon both myself,
Brandon Joe Williams as the natural person, as well as
the artificial person public corporation called Brandon Joe Williams in

(01:54:35):
all caps after birth by any means whatsoever, I just
naturalized both persons right now live on this podcast. If
I wanted to say a different location, I could say
a different location, and I could move both of those
persons to another location right now live on the podcast,

(01:55:01):
and if we go to the Truth about Frivolous tax
Arguments on the IRS website. This is the one that
when you start sharing this with your friends and family,
they are going to send you this particular page. This
particular page has a lot of things that has has
that combats a lot of what I've been telling you
in the show. Very very easy to handle. This particular

(01:55:22):
page they're going to they use the term taxpayer. You
can see it these fifty six times on the upper right,
and you can see all the orange on the right
hand side. All the way down this entire document, they
are saying the term taxpayer, and they are using the
term taxpayer everywhere. Everyone is taxpayer, taxpayer, taxpayer, taxpayer, taxpayer, taxpayer.

(01:55:47):
Title twenty six of the United States Code, Section seven
seven zero one, subsection A fourteen is going to give
us the definition of the term taxpayer. Here it is
the term taxpayer means any person subject to any internal
revenue tax, a US national or national of the United States,

(01:56:18):
or on the I nine they have a little bit
different terminology for it. They call it a non citizen
national of the United States. All those three terms mean
the same thing would not be subject to any internal
revenue tax because they have not naturalized into United States,

(01:56:41):
making them a resident alien. They are a non resident alien.
So by definition that per Son would not be a
tax payer, which means everything on the frivolous tax arguments page,
which actually everything pretty much they say on this page

(01:57:01):
is entirely true, but it would not apply to non taxpayers,
would not apply to US nationals. Perfect and that is
basically the entire maize.

Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
And that's great, man, this is incredible information, priceless information. Now,
what are some of the most profound benefits that people
can experience aside from not having to pay their taxes?
What other benefits comes with.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
This diplomatic community. I know you had mentioned before speed cameras.
So the thing is that I don't want to get
into I don't want to get into a whole nother
talk because cars and stuff is a whole presentation. But
the way that it works is when you get normal

(01:58:00):
license plates, you are essentially donating your car to the
state in order to operate that car in commerce. And
if you look up on your if you look on
your title, your certificate of title which you get from
the DMV. If you look up, it'll say registered owner
and it'll have your name on the title as registered owner.

(01:58:25):
If you go online, type and legal definition of registered
owner and you go here, it says here owner whose
name is recorded in a security issuers registers as the
securities owner and is entitled to receive dividend or interest

(01:58:50):
or principal payouts. The certificate of title is actually a
security document and you're basically have a security interest in
the vehicle, but the state actually owns the vehicle. That's
the way it works. When you get your stuff to
the DMB and then if you go to and then
if you want to know what registration is, this is

(01:59:12):
going to piss you off quite a bit. Registration is
actually the Motor Vehicle Theft Prevention Program Motor Vehicle Theftvention
Program Title thirty four. There it is thirty four USC.

(01:59:42):
Twelve six eleven. Thirty four USC twelve six eleven, So
it says here, the owner of the motor vehicle may
voluntarily sign a consent form with the state and motor vehicle. Now,
motor vehicle, by the way, is a commercial term. You

(02:00:05):
can see definition of driver from Title forty nine CFR.
There we go Boom forty nine CFR three nine zero

(02:00:32):
dot five has the definition of driver, which is your
driver's license. Driver means any person who operates any commercial
motor vehicle. That's how they have jurisdiction over the vehicle
is that the vehicle you have volunteered to operate the

(02:00:54):
vehicle in a commercial capacity.

Speaker 1 (02:00:57):
No shit.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
So the driver's license is literally the modern day star,
and they would place on the Jews during the Holocaust.
The driver's license is the number one thing that ties
you into everything and destroys all of your rights and

(02:01:23):
places you in the District of Columbia. The reason being
is because State of California is a corporation that is
located in the District of Columbia. The original name of
California is not State of California. It's California Republic. The

(02:01:44):
original name for Tennessee was not State of Tennessee. The
original name for Tennessee is the south West Territory. The
original name for Vermont was not State of Vermont. It
was Crown Colony of Vermont. The original name for Texas

(02:02:11):
was not State of Texas. It was the Republic of Texas.
I believe the original name for Utah was not State
of Utah. I believe it was Utah Territory. Let's see

(02:02:32):
on Utah. Utah Territories is the original name for Utah.
Most of them are territory Utah, it was territories. Idaho
is not called state of Idaho. State of Idaho is
listed on dun and Bradstreet as a fucking business. I'm

(02:02:56):
not gonna I mean, I can show you that. Uh
see here, there's a law firm. So State of California
is listed on Doneon Breastria as a business, and it
literally lists Gavin Newsom as the key principal for the business.
This business is located in the District of Columbia. The

(02:03:18):
only way you can live in State of California is
by conferring the nationality of State of California upon a
person meaning yourself as an individual, or your businesses, your estates,
your trust or companies or corporations, your partnerships after birth,
by any means whatsoever, you cannot live or domicile or

(02:03:38):
be a resident of State of California. I guarantee you
no one even knows where in the District of Columbia.
State of California is even physicy located.

Speaker 1 (02:03:47):
Yeah, this is priceless information, Brandon to close out, how
do you feel about how these events are unfolding in society?
The financial side, the political side, the people's awareness side.
It's like, the more we're becoming aware collectively of all
of these concepts and how we were basically being screwed

(02:04:10):
our entire lives, the more people are starting to learn
how to check out of the system, and it's creating
interesting ripple effects in our reality. How do you feel
about how everything's unfolding.

Speaker 2 (02:04:26):
It's a very exciting time to be alive. I mean,
I'm trying to get this out to as many people
as like, Yeah, I'm trying to get on Rogan is
that I can't go and h But I mean, every
show is so valuable, Every show is so amazing, and
I just want everyone to have this information that's looked
as possible, which is why I give my course and
all the information away for free and I go on

(02:04:47):
all these shows because I feel like if we don't
take action and learn this stuff and and and and
start doing this stuff pretty rapidly, we're gonna have some
real trouble. You're pretty and this was great.

Speaker 1 (02:05:00):
Thank you so much. Once again before you head out,
remind everyone how they can get access to all this
wonderful content and anything you have upcoming that they could
look forward to.

Speaker 2 (02:05:13):
Yeah, so right now, I'm pounding home a lot of
this stuff. In litigation, we do have some various organizations
that are difficult to work with, such as banks and
mortgage companies. We are pounding their doors in and pounding
their windows in. The Internal Revenue Service is actually the
easiest organization to work with. They never give you any
problems at all. Once you understand how all this works

(02:05:33):
and you send them orders as to how to process things,
they always do. They never have an issue. They just
never tell you how to play the game. Once you
learn how to play the game, they will play the
game exactly as they're supposed to. They're one of the
only organizations actually does my main website for all my research,
I have an entire it's one stupid fuck dot com.
I'll give you a little micro tour real quick. So

(02:05:56):
there's a step by step guide which you can go through,
which is the first, the first few handful of things.
There's a bunch of text here on how everything's kind
of laid out. The State National theory page is the
book form in text format, going over all the information.
You can also download the first six versions of Black
Slaw Dictionary here, place it on your phone on your

(02:06:17):
computer and it goes down. And it's a text based
book essentially that I change quite often. And then there's
the free Contract Killer course which you can sign up
for here, and it's a series of video It's a
thirty nine days of videos that come to your email
absolutely free. And then at the upper right, I have

(02:06:38):
my Facebook, I have my Instagram, I have my YouTube,
I have my x Twitter account and a lot of
things are posted on there. A lot of things are
posted on all my socials, and I also have a
lot of additional shows on my YouTube. And then I'm
also on shows like this one like five days a week.
So you can go on Spotify or Apple Podcasts or

(02:07:01):
anywhere else or YouTube. You can type in brand in
Joe Williams and you'll find probably you know, eighty or
so various shows that I've been on. And so yeah,
all different. The three main subjects, the three main things
I talk about. If you go on my Instagram, which
is one dot Stupid, Dot fuck, the three pin videos

(02:07:23):
are ten minute super fast breakdowns of the three main
areas of my research. Number one is nationality, citizenship, and taxation,
which which is this This show is going to be
a much better breakdown of that because it's only a
ten minute primer video. The second video is all about driving,
traveling cars and automobiles. And the third video is all

(02:07:46):
about financials, infinite money, negotiable instruments, and the monetary system
that we have. It's a ten minute breakdown on how
to have infinite money. So those three videos are a
great place to start and a great place to share.
And then from there the free course and the other
shows and the other material. It's usually how I roll
things out to street.

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