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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Today, I want to welcome back to the show Ryan Burns.
He began researching the Uintaw Basin and the mysterious skin
walkers in the area many years ago, but when his
passion for answers could no longer be quenched, he left
his corporate job in Salt Lake City and moved to
a desolate in a remote basin to investigate the ranch

(00:26):
full time. He now owns property overlooking the ranch and
he hosts the popular podcast Hero Paranormal. He has written
about his experiences investigating shapeshifters, UFOs, and precognitive intelligences. Ryan,
welcome back, How you doing.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
You?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
And fantastic? How are you?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
Chrisent Man always look forward to these conversations. It's once
again time to get some updates about the research and
phenomena surrounding the areas of the Untaw Basin. Specifically, you
have property overlooking the infamous skin Walker ranch, and based
off of the little bit of information you shared with

(01:08):
me earlier, Man, the high strangeness continues as well as
some new exciting scientific based findings.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
So can't wait to.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Get all the updates before we do. Remind the audience
all about yourself and the work you're involved with.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Sure. My name is Ryan. I'm involved a bit of
a podcaster, have a smaller podcast called Hero Paranormal dot Com.
Hero stands for Hypernomalous Esoteric Research Organization. Esoteric is kind
of like the bait that I cannot exist. That's what
I'll definitely get trapped with. And I think the reason

(01:50):
that's the bait that I will ultimately get trapped with
is because I believe that the keys to unlocking Pandora's
Box will not science. I believe it is the esoteric
and the symbolism and more along the science route, although
super steeped in the esoteric. I have a little base camp,

(02:12):
a science project, if you will, call space wolf Research
dot Com shares a fence line with the most scientifically studied,
verified paranormal hotspot on the planet, a place where a
lot of black budget projects have taken place in the past,
and space Wolf Research delves deeply into neurothology, which is

(02:34):
kind of these experiences that all you fall into the
paranormal category but also sort of fall into that spiritual
category where you know something's up, You know that our
reality is not all there is, and for whatever reason,
the portions of the brain that encounter both the spiritual

(02:55):
endeavors and the paranormal endeavors. It's kind of in the
same cell block speak, the same usual suspects. So yeah,
those are a couple of the projects I'm involved with,
a couple of a couple of fun things.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
Excellent man, great introduction.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
First, let's start with some of the things you can't
really go into too much detail about. I know you
have some NDA's going on and a lot of things
that are highly sensitive, but if you could there, I
know there's some things you can allude to. So tell
us what you can about some of the more top

(03:35):
secretive experiments going on there.

Speaker 3 (03:39):
Great question. And I called before the meeting here because
I needed to know what data was available for me
to share as usual, and I got a highly redactick marks.
That's the good stuff, unfortunately, but no very little. So
a lot of people are involved with endeavors like this.

(04:00):
Unfortunately due to NDAs, it's difficult to talk about a
lot of these things and memorandums. But where it comes
to you ap case studies and the equipment that a
lot of intelligence corporations, advanced working groups and others are

(04:22):
trying to not only establish document, but put into place,
put into work both military and private contexts. There's a
lot of case studies involving u A p u AP
tracking the science behind managing signatures of what these objects are.

(04:45):
They're definitely unidentified, and I've been included in a selection
of endeavors that delve into like sensing these things, both
for relatively interesting endeavors. They're different, they're different endeavors, but
it goes about tracking these things and connecting them to

(05:09):
Internet systems and looking at the available data and making
it accessible to computers in the field, typically these Raspberry
units that you can like bury underground. But the equipment
aspect is cool. Like I said, the science is cool.
But the reason that I believe I'm included is because
of the esoteric and the availability of data. I've kind

(05:34):
of collected on how to anticipate the anomalies. Because sure,
it's great to be able to you know, get systems
and analysts and document electronically with onboard computers all of
the appropriate information for UAP tracking UAP studies, whether military
or private, but the true magic is being able to

(05:59):
anticipate these anomalies before they show up, like you know,
get everything in place, set up the table, set up
the stuff, and say, hey, I bet you they're gonna come,
and they come. And that's something that you know, while
the science community is baffled and mind blown by that,
I'm not because it's something that humans have been doing

(06:21):
for a very long time, since the beginning of time.
Every single religion is verifiably in one way or another,
a UFO cult, a UFO religion, you know, they're all
they all briefly touch on that subject, these these things
in the sky and other places. And yeah, I guess

(06:45):
my bread and butter has been anticipating the anomalies, knowing
when it's gonna happen, and dictating that to others.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Would you be able to elaborate at all about how
you're anticipating these any indication readers that might pop up
here and there.

Speaker 3 (07:03):
Oh, one hundred percent. It's not rocket science. And I
always use that because it's kind of funny and because
a lot of the people that are interested in it
are rocket scientists and they're kind of offended by that.
But it really isn't rocket science. It's literally just you know,
things that have been set along the wayside in recent history.

(07:27):
Usually I'll go about it like this. I'll look for
any specific dates that have symbolism with occult mystery religions,
occult mystery schools, things like Walpurgis Night, you know, the
hour specifically of Walpurgis Night. As an example is when

(07:48):
the quote unquote aliens landed in the backyard of the
family in Las Vegas. This happens specifically during the witching hour,
for which Saint Walpurgo was cannon more or less for
protecting villagers from these entities that come from beyond the veil.
And the same is true. We all know the typical suspects,

(08:09):
like you know, there's all Hallows Eve, there's the solstice markers.
We recently had you know, the dog days of summer start,
you know, which would be the dog serious and that's
going to continue until eight eight of twenty twenty four.
And we have we have a bunch of these that

(08:29):
have been written down, you know, a virtual esoteric far
farmer's almanac of dates. And then I'll overlap that with
things like moon cycles, and specifically the lack of the
moon or the new moon is typically when some of
these precognitive intelligences like to have the most fun and

(08:50):
then things like barometer readings, but most importantly in my opinion,
is electricity in the sky. And this is something that
used to be agreed upon, unknown people believed in it,
which is basically the ether, right, and electricity in the
sky is something that people just don't understand how important

(09:11):
it is, like this ether and its capacity to hold
energy when you have inclement weather and any of those
other things that I just mentioned, Basically you can pretty
much say, hey, it's gonna happen, and it's gonna happen soon,
and when it does happen, everybody's blown away and it's like, hey,
this is nothing. I didn't invent this. This has been

(09:33):
around since like forever.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
This is so interesting.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
There seems to be a lot of theological implications behind
the phenomena that's occurring. I'm very interested to see the
insights from some of the more scientific based understandings that
you're working with as to what's happening when you add

(09:59):
in all these, like you said, esoteric understandings and connections
that are going on. In your talking points, you even
mentioned that there's some ritualistic activity that's been ongoing that
you've been having some troubles with actually right.

Speaker 3 (10:17):
Sure, And some of my despair comes from that because
I find that a lot of the operations officers, typically
people that find themselves in high levels of special forces, intelligence,

(10:38):
special warfare centers, and you know, a variety of other
organizations that are linked to national security. I've noticed that
many of them, when you get to a certain established plateau,
you know, you bust through that glass ceiling, many of
them have efforts or more occulted agendas that are similar

(11:04):
to left hand spirituality. And most people would commonly call
this satanic, But this is a connector that I've noticed
a lot of these individuals. You get to a certain level,
and I was joking with a friend of mine recently
and I said, you know, other than a handful of names,

(11:25):
the rest all fall within this category. And it's pretty
fascinating that these things overlap.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Would you say that there is more of a leaning
towards the dark energies in the dark side of the phenomenon,
specifically in that area that you're in, or is it
a duality where you can experience light or dark, benevolent

(11:54):
energies or malevolent what do you think?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
The whole Yeah, the whole Smrgesborg is there. It's sort
of like choose your own adventure, right when it comes
to spiritualism, and you know, I've heard there's a lot
of there's a lot of commentary out there, but some
of my favorite sayings have been, you know, there is
no work without the shadow work. Or the one that

(12:21):
I tend to live by is you're of more value,
more value if you neither sell your soul to the
dark or the light, because then you more or less
can bounce back and forth between the aisle and you're
valuable to both teams. So it's you know and you

(12:42):
hear people. Nowadays, it's become kind of a new age
fun thing to say, you know, like, oh, I hate
to do this, but now it's time to work on
my shadow work, you know, basically dancing with your demons.
And I think we all know what our demons are.
I mean, we're flipping, you know, contained and forced to
live our egg existence in this meat soup meat suit,
which is super low vibrational. But at the same time

(13:06):
I think that we are higher powered in more positive aspects.
And so there's levels of how deeply you want to
be involved with your shadow work once you realize like, hey,
I have to. I have to inhabit this meat suit.
It is what it is. That's that's pretty much good
enough for me. I don't have to like you know, uh,
in the famous words of Chris Farley, stick my head

(13:28):
up the cow's button. Look around. But you know it
once I know I'm in a meat suit, this is
what it is. I'm I'm a human being, but most
likely have higher endeavors that I'm capable of. That's good
enough for me. Others, uh, you know. And and there's
a long list of left hand path people who I

(13:50):
respect very much because you know, while you know, the
majority of humanity puts certain spiritual giants on these pedestals,
they seem to kind of poo pooh like the left
hand path ones. But I think that we almost have
more to learn from the people that make the wrong

(14:10):
decisions or the darker decisions, than we do the ones
who always make the right decision, because we are given
excellent examples of what not to do, which is also
super important.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well, speaking of what not to do, I'd like to
go as deep as you possibly can without getting yourself
in any trouble. If you could speculate what is the
end goal? Of some of these black op groups with
obviously it's going to be weaponization of this phenomena in

(14:43):
some way, but who is the enemy? Who are they
going to be utilizing this against? Because their speculation that
it could be being used against the public on a
regular basis, what is your understanding of these goals behind
some of this experimentation.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
Yeah, I could baffle people with a bunch of like
amazing new modern jargon and you know, explain what the
goals are for many of these groups which have been
named in countless podcasts before, and people would be like,
oh wow, you know, all these groups are the ones

(15:27):
that are pulling the strings and hitting the levers and
making society do what they want to do towards these goals.
You've heard the usual suspects, But the reality is it's
the same goal that leadership or those who govern have
had for millennia, which is that it's a lot easier

(15:53):
when you get a piece of the pie, whether you're
in a royal you know family bloodline that's had a
huge piece of the pie for a long time or not.
But when you get a piece of the pie, the
first thought is wow, this is really cool. But I'd
like to make some adjustments, and the easiest way to

(16:13):
make adjustments is a total reset or knocking everything down
and starting from scratch. So it's highly individualistic depending on
who or what group you're talking about, but the one
thing they all have in common is they very much
like to reset humanity from time to time and weaponize

(16:38):
as much as possible any of these intelligences powers that be.
You could call them magic in the past. You can
call it in more modern terms. It's very obvious it's
artificial intelligence, robotics, and transhumanism. But it's all basic. We

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emulated as and worshiped as a deity in their minds
because these are tools with which to kind of, you know,
the best way to govern people is to beat them down.
You beat them down and then you can come in
and lift them up and be the hero. And that's
that's what they do.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
A question I've often heard surrounding some of these occult
groups if they have to answer to their karma? Do
they even believe what they're doing is wrong? And should
they be expecting karma If they believe what they're doing
is for the greater good, will they have to answer

(17:42):
to anything or is there an opposing force that doesn't
align with the dark side, that attempts to prevent what's occurring.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Such a good question, Chris, you're killing it. Okay. There
is a wider group of esoteric traditions, and they all
want to advance their magical work or their technologies or
the science. You know, trust the science. It's really trust
the magic. You don't understand, and they want to there's

(18:19):
offshoots and offshoots of offshoots, but again, there's a wider
part of the esoteric tradition. And whether you are one
hundred percent on the left hand path or one hundred
percent on what people commonly call the right hand path
or the white hats or you know, love and light,

(18:40):
the shocker is that they, much like angels and demons,
speak the same language and have the same goals. And
there's a reason for that. So, yes, there are light workers,
love and light. You know, it's all about treating people
with kindness and love, which which is true. And many

(19:02):
along the more left hand path eventually find out the
same answer, which is true. But the goals remain the same.
It's easier to build, you know, biblically speaking, you know,
you cause a flood and all of a sudden, you
knock all the pieces off the chessboard. It's a lot
easier and more peaceful to have a chess game. So

(19:24):
the all factions see ida eye on certain elements.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
When it comes to some of the groups that you've
signed NDA's with and are working with to some level,
do you trust their intentions?

Speaker 3 (19:46):
Sure, and inasmuch as they can tell you. However, the
nature of these intentions can change as soon as rituals
not agreed to start to take place. Specifically, and I
alluded to this in some previous conversations, and you can

(20:08):
have a conversation with somebody see eye eye to eye
on everything. Let's say you and I are talking about something.
I'm watching your dog, I'm I'm house sitting your house.
And you come home from a trip and you notice
that there's like, you know, an altar in your backyard
and you know, uh burning, you know what whatever, burning

(20:31):
sacrificial elements all over the place, and obviously black magic
taking place. You would wonder, wait a minute, I thought
we saw ida eye, and I argue that this is
something that needs to be communicated in advance, you know, like, hey, yaw,

(20:51):
watch your dog. I'll take care of your house, but
I'm kind of interested in some Uh. I'm in between
these two degrees right now. I'm remember this and I'm
under the Council of Nine and I'm divided and need
to do some shadow work. So there might be some
strange effigies in your backyard when you get home. If
I said that in advance and you were cool with that,

(21:12):
it'd be no big deal. But when you find out
about it and I haven't told you about it, it
muddies the water.

Speaker 4 (21:21):
That is absolutely crazy, man.

Speaker 3 (21:24):
All right.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
So you also sent me some pictures earlier that I
want to get to and I'll have these posted whenever
I edit this so the audience can take a look
at what we're talking about.

Speaker 4 (21:37):
But you sent me.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
UFO and then this other thing that I can't even
really describe what I'm looking at, but it's casting a
shadow and it looks like it has these long, spindly legs,
like some kind of robot with one eye in the
middle or something like that.

Speaker 4 (21:57):
It looks crazy.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
So how has the UFO action been over there as
of late?

Speaker 3 (22:05):
Yeah, it's been really cool this week. A gentleman, I'll
just call Sean J. Who is a out in the field,
often notified like check your cameras. Basically, he and some
other workers saw some stuff. I check some cameras. I
think I sent you those images. And you know, it

(22:27):
takes a village, so to speak. You need things like
property owners, nearby neighbors, field workers, oil workers. Nobody is
exempt from being able to help. But it's a big
deal to have people say, hey, can you check your
cameras between this time and this time, because it's so

(22:47):
much work to check them all the time. I gasp
when I think about the stuff that we probably miss.
But yeah, and yeah, there's stuff in the skies, on
the ground, and it everywhere in between. So it's really cool.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Would you be able to guess at a percentage of
what you're seeing whether it's truly unexplained phenomena or you
can easily identify it as military or some kind of
black project?

Speaker 3 (23:27):
Oh okay, Well that's where things get interesting because there
are in fact, oh there's overlap in all of those.
So I think that while in its purest form, what

(23:47):
you're witnessing is beautiful sentient energy. Some call it plasma,
others call it other things, but basically precognitive sentient intelligence
that likes to manifest and interact with certain people, certain
souls for whatever reasons. And this has been highly documented

(24:11):
by Jacques Valet, Frank Salisbury, Junior Hits this utah ufo display.
Actually there's a book by that very title, and how
these things display themselves to individuals for the reason of
downloading information into the individual and almost always many times

(24:34):
reasons that cannot be understood by the individual. You know,
they're downloading info into people, but it's hard for a
person basically a consciousness in a meat suit, a mortal
being to understand and canfabulate and figure out what an

(24:55):
immortal intelligence is downloading for whatever specific per during this incarnation.
So it sounds really crazy, but yeah, Jacques phil At,
Frank Salisbury, and Junior Hicks probably have done the most
work into understanding what the display means, what it's downloading
for the human being, and whether or not these messengers

(25:16):
are deceptive or not, because obviously there's there's you know,
we all know there's a huge hierarchy of these things,
whether you want to call them angels or demons. As
with everything politically now, it seems even our politicians and
politics in general are choosing sides. You know, aliens are
either demons or they're angels, and the reality is they're

(25:39):
everything in between as well hashtag aka grays. So it's
a beautiful form of energy that we're able to witness.
And interestingly, you know, I kind of like the trickster
aspect because I think that these intelligences crave that interaction
for whatever reason. You know, it's like without the death

(26:03):
aspect in most cases, but it's like a reason a
hunter goes hunting or a fly fisherman goes fishing. It's
like they crave that interaction to engage with something that
they love, but they just like the connection.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Right, you mentioned the grays. These are interesting creatures here.
I hear different descriptions based on different experiences. Most of
them are very similar, being that these beings appear to
be these engineered biological robot beings, but they speculate that

(26:40):
there are some sort of engineered creatures so that some
other intelligence may be able to control or inhabit it.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (26:52):
Sure, I think that's very realistic. I believe that any intelligent, thinking,
conscious breed would probably try to do the same. You know,

(27:12):
that's the knowledge bomb is that we are actually involved
in doing something similar, and we've always been involved in
trying to replicate some people call reverse engineer, but human
beings are doing very similar things. So you know, we

(27:33):
have obviously robotics artificial intelligence. It's getting to the point
where AI can't even be created by human beings anymore.
We need AI to create AI, as in the case
with Nvidia, and there's other aspects where we are merging
the biological and the computational. There's a group that is

(27:59):
very much doing what can only be described as harvesting
these mini brains, biodynamically creating and farming these mini brains
to hook up to computers. And the reason that they're
using little human brains is that they can be easily controlled,

(28:22):
and they control them with drugs and with positive reinforcement,
you know, dopamine and things of that nature. I believe
the company said that you know that the brains have
a shorter these little mini brains. You can you can
check this out online. It's pretty wild. But these little
mini brains have for lack of a better word, a

(28:46):
you know, good behavior reward. They're given dopamine and if
they don't function and interact with the computer as designed
or as it's desired. Then they're given negative what they
call negative reinforcement, which is basically shock therapy or they're

(29:07):
shocked pain. And so yeah, I mean we're doing the
same stuff. But yeah, to answer your question, one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (29:14):
That's crazy, man.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
A lot of what you're saying is really changing the
old understandings of aliens, extraterrestrials and UFOs that these beings
are coming in some sort of tin can rocketry from
beyond our atmosphere on a different planet, when it's more
likely that this is a metaphysical inter dimensional experience. There's

(29:43):
also an entire ecosystem and spectrum of intelligences that just
lie beyond our perception as well.

Speaker 3 (29:53):
Yes, and this is where what I this is why
I like to, for lack of a better word, hold
hands with everybody in the circle. And as an example,
an individual who is doing consciousness technology studies under what's
called umber of Aventus Leucis there in the Una basin

(30:16):
of Utah is very much engaging on psychedelic experiences typically
put into place with technologies so god helmets, ange lamps,
pandora stars and witnessing some of these entities, like you're

(30:39):
talking about that lie just beyond the veil. We know
they're there. You hear people who take you know, DMT
experiences and they come back with very similar accounts of
running into these machine elves or you know, I ran
into it. It's like, you know, going into a building
and it's like, oh, they have a janitor on the

(30:59):
first line, they've got an engineer on the second. You know,
it takes something to keep the building running. And these
entities seem to be I've got to be careful here,
but they seem to have designated jobs. They either are
put in those positions by some higher intelligence or they

(31:20):
genuinely were designed for that particular job. But it's the
foundation on which our reality is established. However, a lot
of people don't like to look behind the veil because
a lot can be revealed that can kind of, for
lack of a better word, unless unless you're well acclimated,

(31:43):
it can kind of break down those walls of reality
for certain individuals.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Would you say that everything that we experience in the material,
from the most mundane individual experiences in our lives to
the largest spectacle of the events from political to economic
or disasters that everything we experience in the material reflects

(32:11):
an opposite. But just as real experience in these metaphysical
realms as above so below, these experiences are happening on
a metaphysical and spiritual level, and they're reflecting a certain
way in our material world.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
Yes, and I do. I do believe that. Now I'm
not the average. Uh, Sadly, I'm it's so enticed by
a lot of this bait that you know. I like
to research things like these little mini brains, these little
mini organs being hooked up in labs and showing us
how how we're doing these these things.

Speaker 4 (32:54):
Uh, and.

Speaker 3 (32:56):
You know, but yes, I believe that it is all
connected and that attitude is everything. You hear this often,
and that's why I like to you know, Let's say
you go to a board meeting and you've got literally,
you know, a saint on your right hand side and

(33:16):
the opposite on your left hand side. But they're all
talking about something that they have interest in, and in effect,
they they have the membership cards at the cocktail party, right,
they all have a reason to be there and be
discussing this and have something to contribute and to answer

(33:40):
your question and not get derailed. I understand why a
lot of the Darker Path left hand path called them satanic, Setian,
whatever you want to call them. Institutions have a very,
you know, like f this junk attitude that the whole
game is rigged because it is to some extent, and

(34:03):
a very negative attitude about the whole ordeal. And it's
really attitude is everything, because once you figure it out,
you know, it's like you either say, well, this is
totally lame, this sucks, screw it all, burn it all
to the ground, or you can say, oh, that's great,

(34:23):
I just figured how this works. It is what it is.
I may as well have a good attitude about it
and be positive about it and try to enlighten, uplift
and help as many other souls as possible, because attitude
is everything, and this will manifest in a higher vibrational

(34:45):
pull for everybody, or you go the other route. So
while they most likely have the same knowledge and the
same unbelievable ability to calculate what it is, they understand
it's like graduating high school. There's people that are really
excited to move on to college, and then there's those
people that are like, I'm so glad I'm done with

(35:06):
that screw that. I'm never entering another classroom. So you
know it, attitudes everything.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
I want to go back to some of the equipment
that you were mentioning earlier that you're utilizing. We've heard
about the God helmet, ange lamp. We heard a little
bit about that as well.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
You mentioned Pandora stars. What is this?

Speaker 3 (35:27):
Yeah? Really cool? Okay, So these are all technologies, electrical technologies.
The brain is a hunk of fat and it is
designed to take different electromagnetic frequencies and utilize them magically,
really to create these experiences we have as human beings. Now,

(35:51):
the God helmet was designed by a guy named Persinger
to help Alzheimer's patients and other people with other problems.
And what they realized is in using the God helmet,
many of these people had spiritual experiences, neuro theological experiences,
and so it got that term the God helmet. Then
you have the Onnge lamp, which was kind of I

(36:14):
guess through channeling. I'm just going to try to simplify
this to not get lost in the weeds. A Catholic priest.
More or less, it's a series of lights in a
specific order that flash and recreate again this same neuro
theological experience known as well, it's very similar to the

(36:36):
DMT experience. It's a mimicry of that. And then you
have the one you asked about, which is the Pandora Star. Now,
this individual who channeled how to make the Angelamp claimed
that he channeled this from angelic entities. The Pandora Star

(36:58):
was made very similarly by an individual who also channeled
or was told how to put this thing together, and
he claimed that he received this information from extraterrestrial entities.
Which that's the difference. So basically the same technology, but
that's the difference.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Let's go back to some of the creatures and creepy
crawleys and weird shit you see all over the place.
You sent me a picture and you describe it here
as a monster's ink looking thing kind of looks like
Mike w from the film and it does. It looks

(37:40):
like it has one big eye. I'm gonna post it
up here forever for the audience to take a look
at that.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
But what is what is that?

Speaker 1 (37:49):
Man?

Speaker 4 (37:50):

Speaker 3 (37:53):
What's really I don't know what's really interesting about that
particular it it's showed up at a part of the
property that again we call the black Box. We have
the black Box, the bunk house, and then the base
camp in the back and back by the container, and
we have this this anyway, this showed up at a

(38:14):
part of the property that is probably the most heavily
camera it up right, and we never catch anything there,
So it was really strange. I had actually just been
talking to somebody about an individual who shares the same
name as that Monster's Inc. Character, Mike Wazowski. He runs

(38:37):
something called uh Dimensional Walking YouTube channel, and he's got
the same name as this Monster's Inc. Character. And I
was talking to somebody about a podcast I did with Mike,
and we were kind of joking about, you know, the
fact that he has the same name, and he jokes

(38:57):
about it too. He's a really interesting, intelligent, capable investigator
and paranormal enthusiast, and yeah, he jokes with it as well.
And interestingly, this happened right afterwards. This thing kind of
manifested and it's obviously casting a shadow, has very like

(39:19):
you said, spindily legs kind of all contortioned out, and
it doesn't look like anything that should be here. But
we come back to this ability for the trickster, or
this pre cognitive sentient intelligence that roams the landscape and
specific areas where it has an easier abundance of energy

(39:43):
to pull upon, draw from, and manifest. And what's found
is that oftentimes we human beings have a part in
creating some of this manifestation with simple commentary, simple thoughts.
And you have to be very careful when you're in

(40:03):
some of these sacred lands because what you think can
become reality. And it's just fascinating.

Speaker 4 (40:09):
That is amazing.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
So these, like you were saying, these pre cognitive intelligences, tricksters,
might consider them shape shifters. You've had quite a few
experiences with these intelligences and these beings.

Speaker 4 (40:26):
Could you tell us.

Speaker 1 (40:27):
Maybe about a couple of other experiences you had with
entities that shape shifted into something that maybe you were
projecting in your mind, like you were just saying.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
Sure, yeah, it happens. It's so interesting. You can't in
remote viewing, they call it front loading, right, you can't
front load the process. If you frontload the process with anything,
you come out with a tainted mixture. And the same
is true when you enter these sacred lands like.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Those busters with the marshmallow Man.

Speaker 3 (41:02):
One hundred percent like Ghostbusters. And it makes me wonder,
you know, you find this in cinema so often, and
you realize, you know, we oftentimes make fun of cinema
for how corny it is, but they often do the work.
They know the backgrounds, and they do the research, and
they know that there's something to this, and they leave
breadcrumbs like that in movies. And yeah, you can't frontload it.

(41:27):
You cannot. If you go out looking for the marshmallow Man,
you're gonna find the marshmallow Man. And uh, why that is? Well,
it's very likely that we have a lot more energy
power and capability than we are aware of, and that
most of this magic for lack of a better word,

(41:50):
which has been within us for probably millennia, has been
dumbed down, probably buy the powers in charge to a
point where we don't believe we have any of these
abilities anymore. But we are very much creators and a
piece of source. We are, you know, according to many

(42:10):
religions and most actually we have something within us that
is godlike, you know, whether it's Christianity that you're studying
or even Eastern religions, there is you know the tale
of like the creator, God breaking himself into pieces fractally
and just he keeps separating. Well, the same is true
of our reality. We are and have a portion of

(42:35):
not only creativity, but the reality itself within us that
we have very capable means of manifesting, and apparently, you know,
many of us have lost the insight of how to
focus this energy, how to make this come true. You
see people that are able to do it consistently, and

(42:58):
you know, you just say, oh, well, they're built differently
than everybody else, and that's not necessarily true. But I
think we all have it. I do think we all
have it, but more and more of us are becoming
MPCs and thinking we don't have it.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
Yes, there is that aspect, but I also see it
from an optimistic view that there are people that are
popping out of that MPC phase. There are a lot
of people who are becoming more aware. So it's a
very critical time than that we're in right now, and
it's so important for us to share this type of

(43:32):
information because I think this is what is perpetuating this
awakening that is occurring in people right now. You have
some very encouraging findings, some scientific based findings that you're
calling neurotheology. Tell us, first of all, what is neurothology

(43:53):
and tell us all about your findings with this.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah, okay, so I'll certain individuals have have through throughout
the years created this this this term neuro theology, which
is basically the study of how religious or spiritual beliefs, experiences,

(44:18):
and practices correlate with the brain. And it's virtually kind
of like spiritual neuroscience or the neuroscience of religion that
which we relegate religare hold you know, of importance, And
it's basically attempting to explain religious experiences, spiritual experiences, and

(44:44):
even paranormal experiences and behaviors in neuroscientific terms. So it's, uh,
it's kind of the relationship between the brain our higher
power and that aren't normal.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
How would you be able to discuss any of the
findings that you've come up with related to neurotheological studies.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Sure. My favorite example is something that came off of
the desk of the CIA doctor Kick Green, and it
is something called interference syndrome. Now, this is the analysis
of the brains of people who have been in close

(45:33):
proximity to these locations, these epicenters of high strangeness people
that have had UFO encounters, and the majority of them
are government employees. So off of the desk of the
CIA doctor Kick Green, we've received hundreds of these brain

(45:53):
scans and many have been checking it out and what
they're finding is pretty Doctor Gary Nolan is one of them.
And what they're finding is that when you're in close
proximity to this high strangeness, this otherworldly aspect of unidentified

(46:14):
aerial phenomenon, where I argue a lot of this is
biblical in nature, because we find the same thing written
not only in the Bible, but all major religious texts.
When people are close to these things, you hear the
same thing. When people were close to the Arc of
the Covenant, they would kind of get fried out a
little bit. And what they're finding is that there's whole

(46:38):
genome sequence sequencing of the Atacama and basically their brains
turning into Swiss cheese. Now a lot of these individuals,
this study is important because they've come forward and they've
realized they have real maladies that need to be taken
care of by insurance company and they need ICD ten codes.

(47:02):
Things like that so the work, there's a background for
why the work is taking place, but more to my
end and what I find appealing is that while on
one hand, these people's brains are kind of having these
dead sections or dead spots Swiss cheese virtually in their brains,
they are still able to perform at very high levels.

(47:24):
They have jobs that are extremely demanding with you know,
high intelligence required, people who are very involved at the
highest levels of some of the most scientific work around
and most of it covered with NDAs. But what they're
finding is that they are not only able to still

(47:45):
perform these very difficult tasks, but in many cases their
IQ is actually going up, so they're receiving downloads kind
of like what we were discussing before. You know that
what Jacques Valle, Frank Salisbury, and Junior Hicks start, which
is the study of why this display happens in the
first place. But these individuals are actually downloading more information

(48:09):
and in many cases their IQs are going up. So
it's really interesting because there's a lot of evidence and
the interference syndrome catchphrase that originally that term came from
what they found where people would walk under street lamps
and the street lamp would go out. That's where that

(48:31):
originally came from. And so there's a long history of
like people basically being so energetically charged with their surroundings
and so aware of what's taking place that they actually
have that effect on electronics around them. You've heard it
from Priori Gell or a bunch of others. But yeah,
that's I don't want to go on and on.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
If you could maybe give us some examples of the
phenomena that would occur that would cause the Swiss cheesing
in the brain.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Yep, so close proximity to areas that are known for
basically enabling these paranormal displays, these UAPs, these UFOs, and
interestingly enough, they have found the same correlation with some

(49:25):
of these high level scientists, propulsion specialists, et cetera working
on projects of exotic technologies aka most likely reverse engineered
craft also are having the same developments in their brains.

(49:46):
So there's something about being around I guess we just
call it what it is, this god technology, this higher
level technology, whether it's it's true to source or even
reverse engineered in a more man made scenario, be it

(50:07):
a lab setting, et cetera. They're finding the same thing
taking place in the brains through these scans, very similar
to Havana syndrome, very similar to Havana.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
Sent But you said, the individuals that experience this still
are able to function at very high levels as to
where they can reverse engineer very high level technologies.

Speaker 4 (50:33):
Right.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
That's what I love the most about all this is
it's taking science and literally spinning it on a finger
like a basketball, because science cannot understand how the brain
can take this much damage and then function higher. And
we've run into this in the past with brain scientists specifically,

(50:59):
one exam semple was there was a kind of a
doctor evil type scientist who was removing portions of animals' brains,
kind of trying to show that eventually these animals would
be rendered useless, and he proved very much the opposite
that he could take away large portions of their brains

(51:21):
and as long as he put them back together again,
these animals would more or less bounce back. And it
comes back to the fact that we're in a meat sack.
We're in a meat suit, and it just serves one purpose,
which is a vehicle, But realistically we're more higher powered
and more consequential as beings than we think we are.

Speaker 4 (51:41):
Do you think it has something to do with.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
The level of intelligence that they're connecting with, as in,
maybe it's a lower vibrational entity, and it may have
service to self intentions and possibly take over parts of
this person's consciousness because it allowed it to interact with it.
And this may be what is influencing a lot of

(52:08):
our modern technological silicone valley nerd dork takeover the world
types that are rolling out this technology.

Speaker 3 (52:18):
Right, great question, and very much so, because you make
room for what is important in your life, and I
believe the same is true spiritually, the same is true
of the brain, the same is true of intention. With
many Eastern religions, we hear the phrase, you know, during meditation,

(52:42):
to make your mind empty like a bowl of rice
without the rice, making room for what is coming in.
And this is really important because it could very much
be exactly what you're saying with these these dead spots

(53:02):
are making room for these downloads coming in. And you know,
you hear it from sports athletes all the time, golfers, snowboarders, whatever, Olympians,
and when they're asked, you know, like how did you
pull that off? How did you do that trick? How
did you make that hole in one? They typically come
back with the same response, I just cleared my mind.

(53:24):
I had nothing going on in there, and then I
just let it happen as if something else took over.
So very much, very much along those lines.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
Man, that's fascinating, all right.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
For the last few minutes, there's a couple of other
things that I want to cover. You said that Mofon
director and his team went to the property, found some
interesting clause tell us about that.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Yes, very interesting. We found a bunch of interesting things
on that particular trip, and I think among the most
interesting were very tangible items biological items left from creatures.

(54:13):
One was a claw, very sharp flaw. I don't know
if it came from a raptor like bird or a creature,
may have been something else. And the other was this tooth.
And this tooth was well, for lack of a better word,
very interesting because in his estimation it looked very much

(54:38):
like a dire wolf tooth. He put it side by
side with a dire wolf tooth. I believe I sent
you that, and yeah, they look almost identical. What's strange
is the area in general recently has had a bunch
of dog sidings wildlife sightings, I should say, because really,

(55:02):
these aren't your typical canines. In many cases, I think
they're not even necessarily dire wolves because they're even larger
than that. They may be something called it amphicion, which
is like more ancient. It's known as a bear dog
among archaeologists, and it's freaking huge. But yeah, there's a

(55:26):
lot of creatures that people are seeing in specific areas
down in the Unna Basin, and it's making for a
wild time trying to connect all these dots because many
of these creatures have different shades of fur, they're very large,
they don't act necessarily right. Some of them have actually

(55:46):
been bagged, shot and are being analyzed, but others are
still out there. So what's interesting is Colorado recently released
some dogs I'm sorry, not dogs wolves. I call them dogs,
but released some canines wolves and it's very likely that,

(56:08):
you know, some of these may be misidentified as wolves,
and when you see them in the moment, you might think, oh,
it's bigger than it really is. But there's an abundance
of these reports, so many in fact, that I think
where there's smoke, there's fire and some of these entities
have an ability to show themselves either as these animals

(56:30):
or you know, maybe the lines get blurred just enough
in these geographic locations where you get glimpses of animals
which used to be there in the past previously, because yeah,
the bear dog was around, you know, so long ago
that there's nowhere. There's no way that we could see one. Now,

(56:53):
the dire wolf, same thing. You know, it's ten to
twelve thousand years ago. The closest thing we have to
a dire wolf these days is the African jackal. And
there's just no way that, at least in my estimation,
there's no way that we're seeing the actual animal. And
you hear this from people who have encountered other things.

(57:14):
A very famous case coming out of the National Institute
for Discovery Sciences, which was run up by Robert Bigelow,
is a case of what they're calling a it sounds
wild and crazy, a dino beaver, which was an ancient
Jurassic like beaver entity or animal or critter. But yeah,

(57:35):
you're you're seeing cases where people are verifiably, you know,
swear on a bible telling you that they're seeing things
that just don't exist anymore, and you have to wonder
are they seeing something from the past where they're in
some sort of ability to see past our current time frame,

(57:56):
or is it something completely dimensional or is it a
real living endentity that is only there for a short.

Speaker 1 (58:02):
Period of t Well, well, you said that they do
have some physical evidence, maybe some carcasses that are being analyzed.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
Is that right, Yeah, that's right, And we've run into
this in the past. This is not the first time
that this has happened. And the hard part is, as
the example with this tooth or another or a claw
or whatever the case might be. Let's say you find
something and you get it analyzed and they say, oh wow,
it's a very well preserved specimen of a dire wolf,

(58:38):
which is what this appears to be. Well, that's it.
You don't have any evidence that the animal was there
that day, or last week or last month. It's highly
unlikely that the specimen would be in such good condition
just laying on the ground where we found it, And
you have to ask yourself, like, scientifically, it proves nothing.
You just have a very nice specimen. But you know,

(59:01):
within the working group of individuals who found it, you're like, oh,
my gosh, like, no, this thing was there. We saw
what it looked like. It looked fresh, and you're in
a quandary. You really have you have no no, nothing. Yeah,
you have no feet to stand on, even though you're
pretty sure you've got some amazing evidence.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
It makes me wonder if this phenomena, this trickster shape
shifter or phenomena, if it's in its physical, manifested form,
that it could possibly leave traces of itself behind the
very few pieces of evidence that we have from ufology

(59:43):
or paranormal types of contact experiences, such as the implants
or pieces of meta materials that we can recover. When
it's inside a person's body, it takes on a different
form than when we take it out and to analyze it.
And it reminds me of the old fairy stories where

(01:00:06):
you'd be given gifts in these different realms and it
would be a tangible item, food, drink, or something else,
and then when they'd come back into the real world,
it turned into a pile of sticks or dust or something.
So I'm wondering if maybe we're experiencing the same thing
where there is physical evidence left behind, but it changes

(01:00:29):
form in a way.

Speaker 3 (01:00:32):
Yeah, you're really reminding me of Joshua Cutchen's book A
Trojan Feast, and how he documents exactly what you're talking about,
how in different states of affairs, how something turns into
something else. And I think so because we've found what

(01:00:55):
various people have found on all sides of wolf research,
meaning neighbors, landowners, Various people have found what we call gifts,
which are things that should not be there, and they
very much it appears as if when you go to

(01:01:17):
show it to someone, it very much changes either color,
it's not as durable, it loses some of its magic
when you go publicly with it. If you keep it
to yourself, however, it stays in that original, almost pristine

(01:01:40):
shape I've got again. There's no I can't prove this,
but time and time again you hear stories where this
exactly what you said transpires.

Speaker 4 (01:01:49):
That's so interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
All right, One more thing, one more question for you
before I let you go any new theories or understandings
about why the Uintaw Basin is so energetically powerful, specifically
the areas that you're researching.

Speaker 3 (01:02:11):
There's so many different UH reasons and possibilities. There are
elevation aspects, geographic aspects, archaeological aspects. As you know, there
is a ton of archaeology there from the u Into

(01:02:31):
Basin bleeding over into Colorado, where you have all kinds
of dinosaurs for lack of a better word, literally right
under the surface. And you also have so we know
in the past, regardless of what people think about dinosaurs,
what they may have been, what they represent, or what
they are now, that doesn't even matter. We just know

(01:02:52):
that there's a lot of big remnants of something underground, right,
and that is really all that matters. You also have
extremes in elevation. So you have on one hand what's
known as King's Peak, the highest point in Utah and

(01:03:14):
a place that many have alleged there is a military
presence at that literally may be possibly utilizing that high
point for a variety of reasons, again no data or proof.
And then you have very low elevations in the un
A Basin because it is a basin, it is literally

(01:03:35):
like a satellite dish, a massive satellite dish when you
look at it from space, and the central portion of
the un A Basin is going to be around five
thousand feet. Then you have you know, King's Peak with
a I think the highest point in the summit is
thirteen thousand and five hundred and change, so extreme, really

(01:04:01):
close to one another, you know, as the crow flies,
they're really close. So you have literally the strata, for
lack of a better word, of all types of ancient
times exposed to some extent or another somewhere between those
two points, very close to each other, the lows of lows,
the highs of highs, at least in this particular area.

(01:04:21):
Then you have a variety of other things like ancient
waterways that have sediment and debris left behind. That fertile
valley known as shape Shifter territory where space Wolf Research is.
It's space Wolf and this stuff does not recognize meaning,

(01:04:41):
you know, this stuff meaning the paranormal, the high stranger,
does not recognize fence lines the way we do or
property boundaries. All Space Wolf Research was was a little
back eddy on a massive ancient prehistoric you know, Mega
faund Us dream. That's all it was. You know, It's

(01:05:02):
just a place where a bunch of sediment was placed,
and that's why it's a high spot now, nothing more,
nothing less. There's the whole area, the whole I would say,
there's an eighty square mile area known as the Dinosaur
Diamond or the un A Basin, or it has a
variety of names, but it's a spot like many other spots,

(01:05:23):
like Sedona, like many spots like the San Luis Valley
in Colorado. There's spots like this, you know, literally all
over the southwestern United States. But for whatever reason, it
has all of the elements, the waterways, the strata, the
history that and the folklore, very magical folklore that make

(01:05:47):
it very active. I could go on and on. There's
a high powered power line over a very porous sandstone
ridge with man made water suppression above it. The water
leaks down underneath the sandstone activates very strangely under the
power lines. There's a history of occult magic, both indigenous

(01:06:14):
and for lack of a better word, Masonic magic, voodoo,
Santa Ria, all kinds of different elements of magic that
were utilized by the Buffalo soldiers in their first encampment ever,
right there at a location known as Fort Duchane with
the Ute tribe. And you know, there were even larger

(01:06:37):
magical spells transpiring between the Ute and the Navajo who
were evacuated because so they were sold out by the
ute in a very beautiful spot near the San Luis
Valley so of Colorado. So there's really interesting magical correlations

(01:06:58):
in the past and a lot of this magic, the
shape shifter magic in general. It started out very positive.
You know. This was a way for indigenous members who
were very able to do some of these practices ritualistically.
For them to be able to spy on counterparts for
whatever reason, or get out of scenarios or situations that

(01:07:21):
were unkind to them was by manifesting this type of magic,
if you want to call it that. It's similar to
like remote viewing. People could argue that that's magic, but
it's a practice where you do a certain number of
steps towards an end goal and what you end up
with is something that we now call that magical, you know,

(01:07:43):
but it's a technology, it's a spiritual technology. And I
could go on and on, because there's so much history
in the U in a basin that alludes to why
this all may be transpirted.

Speaker 1 (01:07:55):
I love it, man, and I and my beautiful wife
will be fortunate to take a trip out there in
a little over a week see what we can experience ourselves.
No expectations, but at least we'll get to hang with
you for a day or two and see what happens. Man.
So we're very much looking forward to this. This is

(01:08:16):
gonna be a bucket list thing for us, and we
really appreciate your hospitality letting us come out and do this.
So looking forward to it. Man, it's going to be
a fun time. Before we close out today, remind everyone
where they can find out all about you, space Wolf Research,
Hero Paranormal, all your good stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
Yeah, that's uh, I'm looking forward to seeing you guys.
That's pretty much it. I'm Hero Paranormal on YouTube, hero
Paranormal dot com, space Wolf Research on social media, and
Spacewolfresearch dot com. There's a few books out there, some
other stuff, but yeah, that's pretty much it. Looking forward
to seeing you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:08:55):
Thank you much man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
We will definitely be doing this again. There's much more
we we'll always have to get into. And until next time, everyone,
have an excellent evening.

Speaker 4 (01:09:05):
We'll talk again tomorrow. We'll see all then.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
Today I want to welcome Isabella Young. She was the
victim of a messianic cult and escaped fifteen years ago.
After her escape, she focused on nature, expanding her consciousness,
healing emotional wounds, as well as learning about cults and
mind control and freeing her mind from cult programming, and

(01:09:31):
helping others become aware of the cult programming surrounding us
in our everyday lives.

Speaker 4 (01:09:38):
Isabella, welcome.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
How you doing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
I'm doing well, Thanks, Chris. I'm very grateful for the
opportunity to speak with you and shares some of my
experiences and some of my lessons that I've been learning.

Speaker 1 (01:09:53):
Thank you so much for sharing your experiences and insights
with us today. And most of us can imagine what
it would be like to be the victim of a cult,
subjected to abuse, mind control, as well as many other
traumatic events. But the work you currently do not only
helps people that have also been victims of similar circumstances,

(01:10:14):
but it helps society as a whole gain the understanding
that we are all subjected to similar methods every day
by our own ruling class, the control systems that are
the forms of religion, politics, education, our medical system, legal systems,
law enforcement, entertainment, economic and so on. You know the matrix.

(01:10:40):
We're going to get into all of this and how
it affects us on a daily basis, and your story,
which is extremely important.

Speaker 4 (01:10:48):
Now, before we get.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
Into this, tell us a little bit about what you're
currently involved with.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
I'm writing my second book, Old New Human of New Earth,
and basically what it is, it's a remembrance of how
to be human because that information is being forgotten more
so every day. So it's a remembrance of how to

(01:11:17):
to listen to our bodies, nurture our bodies, evolve through
our bodies, as well as have relationships throughout the natural kingdom,
and then to be building on relationships with non physical
beings that are here to help and support us. So

(01:11:40):
it's basically that we need to reconnect to our human nature,
a divine nature, nature, and each other at this time
in order to be a powerful force to resist the
dark forces that have their jack boots standing on our necks.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Now, let's start at the beginning for you. Tell us
a little bit about how everything started for you and
as much as you can about your story.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Well, I was raised a devout atheist Vibes. I was
raised by a devout atheists, so I had this superior
attitude to anyone who talked about God or believed in
a religion, and that continued on till my early twenties. Now,
like I thought, I knew better than everyone else. I
was on the inside of the truth. And then I

(01:12:36):
met the man who was ended up being the what
it was, my first husband, really father of my children, soulmate,
and we had a few profound spiritual experiences together that
really opened my mind to there being more to this
life than just what can be perceived through the five senses,

(01:12:58):
and that really started me on my journey of their
spiritual awakening. And then I was three months pregnant with
our second child and he died suddenly, which threw me
into help. Really my life was over at my dreams
of a family and living a self sufficient life style

(01:13:21):
on a farm where just fell gone and I was
completely lost. I didn't know where to go. I couldn't
keep working the farm. It was just too much, so
I had to sell that property and find somewhere that
felt like home, which took years. And in that time
period I was extremely vulnerable and I met, excuse me,

(01:13:47):
I met this group of people who were following an
Indian guru called cy Barber, and through them I heard
of this at that time, he was a trance channel.
I just mentioned his name. One time, his name's Louis
dur DMPRI and I did this charmanic retreat called Dying

(01:14:13):
to Live and I had a huge experience, expansive experience
in that and I heard was told it was time
to start training with him. He was in the States,
so I went over there, and through some very strange
but significant and coincidental events, we ended up getting married

(01:14:35):
after that short amount of time. How it sounds pretty bizarre,
but that's what happened. And I took my two oldest
children over to live with him in the States. So
I thought I was entering into a guru disciple relationship,
which I understood because my spiritual evolution was and has
been since my early twenties paramount to me. So I

(01:14:58):
was very devoted to healing because I knew I needed to.
I've had such a strong death wish it was running
my life, so I knew I needed to heal, and
I was looking forward to being part of this spiritual
community and making a positive contribution to life.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Now, before we go, could you tell us going back
to the spiritual experiences that you had with your first
husband that first opened to your eyes, so that there's
something more to this reality. Would you be able to
tell us anything about those experiences?

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I can. There are a few of them. This
is one of the most significant ones. So we did
a We did a tantra retreat with a spiritual tantra
teacher called body Avanasha and her guru is Bubbajee maha
Abata Babbajee. And I'd never heard of him before, and

(01:15:57):
in fact, I hadn't really heard of tantramar and Kundalini
was just a word that I heard in passing. But
it all sounded pretty interesting. So we did this weekend
retreat together at a It was like a an outdoor setting.
There was a like a mud brick room where we'd meet.

(01:16:17):
We camped around and met in the temple for teaching.
And one of the things the first things that we
did was we were invited to go outside and choose
an offering for the altar. It was a great big
altar there and you know, pick flowers or a roll
or whatever. So separately, Barry and I picked our chose

(01:16:38):
our offering, and then we put it on the altar
in front of this same photo. We talked about this later.
It was not planned would just happened organically, and we
went to see their teacher afterwards and we said, who's
this who's this person in the photo? And she said, Oh,
it's Maha Abbatta Babbajee. It's a typical picture of him.

(01:17:01):
He's got the long dark hair. He looks actually looks
very masculine and feminine, which which he is. But we
didn't really even know that he was a man, but
what a being like that? Who was who had been
real or Israel or whatever. So we learned about Barbajee.
And when we were driving home from the retreat, Barry

(01:17:25):
started telling me this story about how he'd been out
a couple of nights before the retreat started and there
was a film set on the property next door that
was a excuse me, a film for the like the
Man from Snowy River or something, because we lived in Australia,
and the camp that was a gold rush seen and

(01:17:45):
all the white tents of the old miners were on fire,
and he said, in the in the flames above the
the tents that were on fire, he saw this huge
face and he said, I didn't know whether it was
a man or a woman, but it spoke to me

(01:18:05):
and it said that you and I will be together
and Parris are well, I'm with her, meaning me. He
knew that there was some sexual energy and it was
all it was pretty confusing for him. And I'm listening
and to him tell the story. I said, you know
who that was? And he a little bit slow sometimes

(01:18:26):
ago and he realized it was Bubbagee. So we had
this really strong connection with this It's one of the
most highly evolved beings that sources this planet. And so
we started doing some of his free yoga and just

(01:18:47):
reading about his history and involvement in the planet. And
then it wasn't long after that that Barry died suddenly.
He went off to work one day and was found
in his car. His heart had stopped beating. And so
I knew then that he had he was connected and

(01:19:10):
where he needed to be, and that gave me peace
of mind because it was such a disturbing time it was.
It was good for me to know that that he
was in a good place. So the anyway, that was
just one example of encounters with with non physical beings.

Speaker 4 (01:19:31):
So we move forward.

Speaker 1 (01:19:32):
You're with your new husband and this new spiritual community
that you found. Tell us a little bit about how
everything unfolds there.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Well, it's it's classic cult one O one when I
look back and I can see how it unfolded. He well,
he believes he's the second Coming. He's announced himself as
the Myitrayer, the Kalki Avatar, and he's come to to
lift humanity out of the hell that it's in and

(01:20:04):
save the world basically. And so then we were his disciples.
You know, I'm his wife. So he's got a group
of people around him who were here to help him
on his mission, and everything that we did had to
serve that mission or serve him. So all our time

(01:20:24):
was taken up with cult activities, meetings and planning events
and or transcribing his tapes. Every word that he said
was an utterance from God, so that had to be
recorded and transcribed for the library. So there were lots
of tasks that people were always engaged in, as well

(01:20:47):
as work because the way he has funded himself is
through tithing, and so to be in his presence, everyone
needs to give ten percent of their gross income him.
That means that what they work, what they earn, what
they get gifted, what they get through an inheritance or

(01:21:08):
a car sale, or whatever, so he gets a shit
ton of money from people. He's not a huge operation,
and that's how he's kind of been able to skate
along through this. Like he used the same tactics, but
he's not a big cult leader like Bickram or the
Indian Gurus or it's just a minor league cult leader.

(01:21:29):
But he's got quite an operation going there because he's
still got the same people, many of the same people
around him who all know what he's done with children
with other cult members, and they all know what he's done.
But he uses a lot of like mind fuckery, the
gas lighting, the psyops and all that. So people are

(01:21:51):
so ber fuddled. They're still caught up in the idea
that every word he says is like providence and everything
he does is for the betterment of humanity, and that
he's somehow enlightened being.

Speaker 1 (01:22:08):
So I'm assuming he had extensive sexual misconduct with members
of this cult.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Well, so we had sex one time to consummate the marriage,
and I got pregnant, and after I was pregnant, he
never touched me again in the eight years of marriage.
So I was in a celibate marriage and he always
gave me excuses you know, I was. I was too needy,

(01:22:36):
I was too much like a man. I was not
deserving of him. I'd said something that was disrespectful, so
I wasn't worthy of his touch. And then the one
that he ran for the longest on me was that
being celibate was for my you know, my highest good.
That was what was going to further my spiritual evolution.

(01:22:57):
And it turns out that he's been fucking all the
the most of the male cult members as well as
heaps of randoms. He's on Tinder and Grinder, and so
he's been living this promiscuous gay lifestyle and I'm my
gatar is completely off. Well, I knew something. I felt
like something was off. I felt like something was off,

(01:23:19):
but I didn't know what he was getting up to
behind closed doors. And so all the you know, the
male cult members thought they were in this love relationship
with Gurujib and they're all being taken advantage of. And
it's very similar to I don't know if you've heard
about the Budherfield cult. It's a cult that was started

(01:23:39):
in Hollywood about the same time in that late eighties,
and the cult leaders is like a little guy with
a Napoleon complex and he's telling people that he's got
the keys, you know, they just need to do what
he does and they'll be free, they'll be sovereign beings,
they'll be enlightened, they'll experience the border field. And he's
running same scam on all the male cult members. It's

(01:24:05):
it's really common. It's for cult members. It's all about sex,
money and power. Yeah, so that was playing out in
the cult that I was in, Yeah, for the entire
time I was there, and it wasn't until well he's
also he's also groom's children and there have been young

(01:24:27):
boys in the cult besides my son, who he's been grooming.
And he plays the long game, this guy, like he'll
wait twenty years or something to you know, get his
way with some of the cult members. So he was
grooming the children. There were a couple of young boys
in that. He's got another cult in Australia run by
a woman who's just a completely evil piece of work.

(01:24:50):
And her nephews were living in the colt and they
were told they were gay from the time they were
eleven and if they only accepted their gay in as
they would be healed of a all their issues, and
she sent them to his bed. She sent them to
him like they it. I just want to say a
lot of these things only came to light after I left.

(01:25:12):
It was because we found out what happened to these
boys that I knew then what happened to my son,
and he was being groomed and he was being resistant,
and so he was taken out because otherwise the cult
leader would have been exposed as a pedophile, a rapist,
a con man, and.

Speaker 4 (01:25:36):
Your son was killed. Yep, I'm so sorry you hear that.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
And yeah, and that was that was spun as a
suicide and blamed on me. Wow. Yeah, it was an
absolute nightmare. But in the end, that's what broke me
out of the cult probe. It took that level of trauma.

Speaker 1 (01:26:02):
Now you said this gentleman's name earlier. Do you know
if he's still involved with any of this.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
Probably he's still involved.

Speaker 2 (01:26:10):
He's still running the same scam. He's got a disciples
that he still controls in the US and in Australia.
I've been doing some videos on my YouTube channel to
expose him and invite other cult members on because that's
this is the interesting thing about this cult is that

(01:26:34):
there are a lot of people who've been severely traumatized.
You know, there's been like mind rape, physical rape, spiritual rape.
And what's interesting about this cult is there's only two
of us who are really speaking out about it. Everyone
else is so traumatized, especially the men. You know, they
were really really fucked over. And so anyway, fifteen years later,

(01:26:59):
for me, I'm now able to talk about what went on,
raise the alarm, hopefully get other people who are in
the cult to think about the discrepancies between how this
cult leader behaves and what he says about himself. You
know that he's a divine being, but yet he's a

(01:27:21):
pedophile and a rapist, and a thief and a com
man and you know, a hypocrite and not a good person.

Speaker 1 (01:27:28):
Well, this is unfortunately what we see across the board.
In a lot of higher levels of power, no matter
whether it's religious or spiritual power, or political, corporate, or above.
There is some point where most of these individuals get

(01:27:49):
compromised or corrupted in some way. The power is too
tempting for them, and they have to sacrifice a level
of what they are as human to get above and
to gain more power.

Speaker 4 (01:28:04):
In these circumstances.

Speaker 1 (01:28:06):
Tell us a little bit about how you eventually were
able to get out of this.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
I just want to say one thing on what you
just said, Like I wonder where that level is with people,
Like I can understand that, I can see it happen
with people. And what happens then is there you know,
did they get a visit in the night from a
dark force that was in their ears?

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:28:29):
You know, just like where's the point, because there is
a point where that whether they sell their soul, you know,
they sign the Faustian bargain and then they're they're gone.
And we can see it in its pretty much anyone
who's got a fortune, fame and followers, they've all signed
that Faustian bargain. Yes, I totally agree with you. It's

(01:28:51):
it's so common. It's in families and in sports teams,
and it's it's all through it. Wherever there's a pyramidal
organization of power, right, you get people who are going
to oppear.

Speaker 1 (01:29:01):
It's very interesting and we'll touch on this later. What's
happening now with that, especially in the realms of celebrities
and some political realms that there's a lot of these
people being exposed, and it's allowing society to see what
we're really dealing with. So I think we're in a
very important time when it comes to that. But we'll
get to that in a bit. So tell us a

(01:29:21):
little bit how you were able to escape all this.

Speaker 2 (01:29:27):
So after my son was murdered, well at the time,
I was told it was a suicide and it was
because of me. I didn't give him the life that
he wanted. I hadn't been an obedient wife or an
obedient disciple, and so my son exitited and I spent
many months just it was basically breath to breath. I

(01:29:47):
really didn't want to live again. I had after my
first husband died. I'd been through that whole you know,
dance with death, and thought I had my turn, but
apparently not. So it was I had two other children,
and I knew that I couldn't take myself out, although
I really wanted to. So I had to keep living.

(01:30:11):
And I went along to see this guy who'd been
the cult psychologist for years. But in my disobedience, I
never went to see him. Just you know, I didn't
really I wasn't really very obedient, that was true. That
was just so much bullshit and hypocrisy, and so I
was quite disobedient. Anyway, eight months after my son's murder,

(01:30:32):
I went along to see this guy, and when I
walked in the door, he said, I knew you'd come
to see me, And then he said, you know you're
in a cult, don't you? And I said, no, I
don't know I'm in a cult. I thought I was
in an ushroun with my guru on a spiritual path.
And he said, go home and google cult characteristics. So
I went home and I googled cult characteristics and there

(01:30:55):
they were. Charismatic leader that's the arbitrator of truth, controls
people's time and or names. You know, he changed He
changed my name, He changed people's names. He married people,
He told people when they could have sex. Most couples
were in celibate marriages, even though he's not clearly not
He controlled what people ate. We were vegan, and I've

(01:31:17):
got my arguments for being vegan, so that's not the thing.
But anyway, our food was controlled, our time is controlled,
when people went on holidays, what houses they lived in
to what rooms they shared with whom, and so he
controlled all aspects of people's lives like that. And then
there's all the mind control tactics, you know, the brainwashing,

(01:31:41):
So he had to repeat his name. In the mornings,
we'd wake up in at four am, so sleep's reduced.
That's another cult control tactic is sleep disturbances. So we'd
have to do these prayers to him. He's has a
couple of different names. One of them is Bagavanchripranananda, so

(01:32:05):
we'd have to do like Prana Nanda arms and or
the sing friggin' songs with his name in it. He
would just pick a Indian budget and then put his
name into it, and we had to listen to his
tapes of his recordings. And then throughout the day because
we lived in just a normal could a sack home

(01:32:27):
home in the colder sack, people would come along to serve,
which is basically free slave labor. So they would cook
and clean and do the yard work and clean cars
and help with the children all that, and so there
was always this busyness. And if anything happened, I'm not

(01:32:48):
talking anything like from a broken glass to a bird
flying in the window, we would all be called together
and we'd have to analyze what happened and what within
us caused this thing. You know, what's faulty. Part of
our personality was showing up. Now, So that was the
I don't write. So there was the you know, the

(01:33:09):
love bombing, Oh, you know you're a goddess. You you
know you've got a mission. And then there was the
hate bombing, which was you're a broken piece of ship
and you know, no one likes you, including your kids.
And he played a lot of mind games with individuals,
comparing them, like he would tell my kids that I
loved them differently, and you know I had a favorite.

(01:33:34):
And yeah, he controlled controlled all the aspects of our
lives really and so there was no time that we
weren't really encouraged and weren't really allowed to read books.
Ah and if we read, we could read his book

(01:33:56):
as many times as we liked. That we were really
just kept in this bubble of lies and deceit and
mind fuckery. And then once I realized where, well what
situation I was really in, that was when I knew

(01:34:16):
I had to get away and get out. And he
told me this is so that there are ways that
cult leaders keep people in the cults, and that's through
like threats. So if I left, then what happened to
my son was also going to happen to my other children.
You know, they would die if I left. His biggest
one that he uses because he really manipulates on a

(01:34:39):
profound spiritual level, is he says that I've been you know,
I've had hundreds of thousands of lifetimes that have led
me to be with him, and this is the this
is the the main one. You know, this is the
the opus of my spiritual evolution to be with him.
So if I turn my back on him, I'm turning

(01:35:02):
my back on my spiritual path and I'm basically turning
my back on God. So I had to work through
those threats, and he told me that he wouldn't let
me leave without my daughter, and my other daughter had
already left, so I felt trapped. But I think that

(01:35:22):
what he eventually why he eventually let me go, was
that he knew if he made me stay, that I
would have taken myself out and then he'd have another
death on his hands, and that might be so easy
to lie lie his way out of.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Now since you're since you made your way out. Has
his organization, his cult community grown any Is he involved
with any individuals or groups at higher levels.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52):
No, he doesn't have any lineage at all. Not not.
He claims to be connected to like the Yogi Christ's lineage.
That's bullshit. He doesn't have any he never had any gurus.
He he he went through a a it's called it's
a it was a temple initiation. He was a trans channel.

(01:36:15):
But they also they also dealed with dealt with a
lot of the dark arts too. I can't remember the
name of that. So he's he's interested with demons. He's
opened himself up to the dark side. And that's what's
really running the show. That's what runs his sex addiction,
his power addictions and all that. He's a like if

(01:36:42):
just to himself. Really, he doesn't answer to anyone. He's
not accountable to anyone, and he doesn't form arrangements with
anyone because that would that would decrease his power. When
I say anyone, I mean another person. But he does
work with the dark forces.

Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
After you escaped, how were you able to start your
healing process and you eventually started to see things about
the way our material world and society functions that mirrors
aspects of your life in the cult.

Speaker 2 (01:37:21):
The main part of my healing happened when I came
to Hawaii that the time that the power, the healing
power of these islands and other places on the Earth
and nature cannot be underestimated. I know that by being
here on this island, my heart is healing. It's my

(01:37:43):
healing is going to be a lifelong process. But I'm
definitely not suffering anymore. I used to suffer all the time,
all day long. I used to cry for days hours.
I still feel sad, I still get angry, I still
have brief but I'm able to enjoy life. So I
know that my healing has progressed. And like I said,

(01:38:03):
it was really due to being on this island. And
then I started doing some practices that connected me more
strongly with nature. So I started sun gazing and I've
been sungazing now pretty much every day for about seven
or eight years. And that is the most empowering practice

(01:38:25):
is practice I've ever done, along with grounding, so that's
staying directly connected to earth, their feet to earth. I
have morn shoes in about that. I still wear them sometimes,
but mostly I'm barefoot. So I stayed directly connected to
the earth, and that has meant that my healing has
been far more graceful, and that any changes that are

(01:38:47):
going on in the bigger picture, which there are, you know,
is going through a major influx of light that's stirring
up all the the grunge. So we're getting to see
all the corruption and the pedophilia, like you were saying,
you know, so that a light is just like a

(01:39:10):
glass of water when you are dirty water, when you
pour the clean water and it gets stirred up until
it runs clear. That's what's happening now on a almost
a cosmic scale really, So connecting with nature it has
been crucial for my healing as well as a lot
of feeling my emotions. So when I do feel like crying,

(01:39:33):
I cry. When I want to scream, I'll scream, usually
into a towel, on a pillow or in my car
with the with the windows closed. So allowing the emotions
to run through me rather than fester and make me sick.
And then doing a lot of research to understand about

(01:39:54):
what happened to me, understand my family dynamics. So my
mother had a narcissistic personality, just disorder that made me codependent.
Therefore I'm a little you know, fluffy bunny when it
comes to narcissists or cult leaders are narcissist. So I
could see how I fell into that trap, and then

(01:40:15):
understanding more about how the cult dynamics play out on
a global scale, and then what I realized was from
my experience, I would have liked someone to tell me
my family. They my family knew I was in a cult.
Within a year of me leaving Australia, my parents, who

(01:40:35):
never did anything together, went along to see a cult expert.
They never said anything to me, None of my friends did.
I just remember this. One guy said, oh, you know,
we don't really need a guru, and I said, well,
you know, at this point in my life, I feel
like I do. But no one ever said, you know
you're in a cult. You know, you know he's sleeping

(01:40:57):
around and and here is all the ways that he's
defrauding people with these bank statements. So what I've learned
is that when you know someone's in a cult, tell them,
And so that's part of my speaking out now is
to tell people, hey, this is a cult that we're

(01:41:19):
trapped in. Because unless you know you're in a cult,
you never you don't get out because you don't realize
you're being mind controlled. Right. Unless you know there's a
cage for consciousness, Unless you know that everything is manipulating,
and you know that black screens are really you know,

(01:41:42):
black magic, then how can you avoid the traps and
how can you live as a sovereign being.

Speaker 1 (01:41:49):
I want to get to the metaphysical side of things,
especially when it pertains to the nature of psychopathy, the
high level powerful people that attempt to steer humanities in
dark directions. It seems like people at these high levels,
and even the person you were speaking about as your

(01:42:11):
cult leader, has a level of psychopathy that I look
at most people and I don't see and I try
to ponder on it, and I can't understand how people
can do some of the things that these seemingly evil
people do. And I have an understanding now that everything
has a spiritual base, that we are spiritual beings, and

(01:42:35):
the nature of what a lot of what people do
in their darkest nature comes from spiritual darkness, comes from
interacting with dark energetic forces, whether you realize it or not,
that can continue to lower your state of being, your

(01:42:57):
if you want to call it, vibratory state, lower your
vibrate until you no longer can recognize that connection to
God or source, and you are now doing the bidding
of these dark forces. And that's the way I kind
of see these psychopaths, these global leaders, these cult leaders,
these pedophiles, some celebrities, people in power are operating.

Speaker 2 (01:43:24):
I think that we will never understand the situation that
we're in on how to get out of it until
we address that fact that evil is real, that people
are infested with demons, and that's what we're dealing with.
And that was a shock to me too. I remember
even when I started writing and using the word evil,
I thought, oh, that's you know, it's a bit too much.

(01:43:45):
I shouldn't really talk like that. And then you find
out what's going on, and then you're like, it couldn't
be that bad, surely, but actually it is, and it's worse.
So we are dealing with demonic entities. And it's one
of the things I learned is that there are ways
that these dark forces enter into the into a human body,

(01:44:06):
and one of the main ways they enter in is
through anal rape. That's why pedophilia is the way it is.
That's how the demons get that's how they get control
of a human body, and then they run the show,
then they run the addictions, and they you know, then
they concipher and energy.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
And that is very interesting. That gives a whole new
outlook when I look at some of the initiations that
you hear about from higher levels of people in power,
some of the sexual depravity that they have to take
part in. From what you just said, that would actually

(01:44:45):
make a lot of sense as to what we're seeing.
The outcome of some of these people's lives.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Become demon infestation and and the the only way to
protect from that is to keep your vibration high and
not sell out, you know, just to really maintain a
high vibration. It's that and also just to have integrity

(01:45:15):
and that your focus is to be a good person
doing good things. Just keep that focus, and that is
protection against the evil entities who do continue to test
us and fuck with us and push us off our path.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
One of the most difficult things that we can do
as messengers of this information is trying to present it
to people that have not been exposed to this, that
enjoy the material, that enjoy being immersed in the physical
roles that they're playing and being unaware of the spiritual

(01:45:53):
nature of this reality. The people that some call n PCs.
I think that's a bad term. I think we all
have the potential to come online and become aware and
become spiritual beings. But there are some people that have
been so deeply programmed with fear everything that surrounds them
on a daily basis, telling them that this is all

(01:46:14):
there is to their lives. They wake up, they go
to work, they may be rewarded with a beer at
the end of the evening and a TV show, and
then they repeat that for the rest of their lives,
and they're told that that's all there is to their lives.

Speaker 4 (01:46:27):
And it's very.

Speaker 1 (01:46:27):
Difficult to get a lot of these people to become
aware of the levels of darkness that they're dealing with
and that they play a role in it every day
that they allow a lot of these things to happen.
They've participated with a lot of the dark arts agendas,
they voted, they'd allowed people to be in power, They've
eaten the poisonous food, they've participated with the crazy agendas

(01:46:52):
that have come out. We've as a collective, as a whole,
have done this for decades, if not centuries, and it
seems like recently more and more people are starting to
become aware that this is occurring. There are still the
few that I just mentioned where it's very difficult to
get this information to them.

Speaker 2 (01:47:13):
I agree, I agree. What continues to amaze me is
the level of evil genius that the call them the controllers,
temporary controllers, powers that shouldn't be, the evil genius that
they use to keep people ignorant of the situation and

(01:47:34):
then supporting and participating in their own enslavement. Yeah, it's
because that's what's really enslaving is it is participation in
the system itself, because that's what's holding it out. That's
what you know, paying taxes is doing, That's what voting

(01:47:56):
is doing, Like you said, that's what swallowing the pills
is doing, and buying the food is doing. And I
don't know what the answer to that is. I know
there's a lot of people out there who are using
their voice to bring this to people's attention, and I

(01:48:16):
feel like it's an individual calling really, like obviously your
call to create a platform to speak out about it.
For other people, it might be just a simple offering
of a neutral vibration or a positive vibration that adds
to the entire energy field, and hopefully that hopefully, but

(01:48:38):
I feel like that's an effective way to bring about
change rather than shaking people.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
Yes, now let's get a little bit into your books,
because I think this is a good segue. It relates
very much to what we're just talking about. Starting with
your first book, give us a synopsis of Putting on
the Armor of God, a survival handbook for the Great
Awakening and New Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
I was writing the book that I'm actually writing now,
and then in December twenty twenty, I just felt this
a new book coming through, and I started writing it
and put it out at the start of all the bullshit,
really with saying, hey, you know this is bullshit, don't
go along with this, and including it's interesting because I

(01:49:25):
did so much research and I ended up I'd end
up on the floor in tears when I found out
what was you know, what was going on, you know
what was in these bioweapons and how they were affecting people.
So it was really written as a warning and also
with a lot of the medicines, the natural medicines that

(01:49:46):
are available to us, that are free, that are effective,
that have no side effects and that we can use
to stay healthy, protected, grounded, empowered, resilient, you know, the
Like I said at the start, these are the medicines
that are being forgotten. They're medicines that the ancient people

(01:50:08):
knew about their medicines from different indigenous wisdom traditions, and
they're essential. Like, we can't expect to have optimal health,
physical health, mental health, spiritual health without using these natural medicines,
without spending time in nature, without being directly connected to

(01:50:28):
the earth, without sunlight, and without actual real fresh fruit
and vegetables. There are things that we need in order
to be as as strong and healthy and happy as possible.
So that was really what the putting on the Armor

(01:50:49):
of God was about. How can we can protect ourselves
from the dark forces that are we're basically under constant attack.
I mean, the Third World Wars already well under way.
It's ridiculous, Steven questioned this, it's a constant battle that
we're facing an attack.

Speaker 1 (01:51:11):
The most concerning part about what we're facing now is
the focus on the younger generations. I think there's a
realization that a lot of people in our age range
or older are around the same age, are becoming more
aware of the BS are checking out a lot of
things that don't serve humanity. But the younger generation is

(01:51:35):
still up for grabs in a lot of ways, still malleable,
and they are using the weaponization of social media, propaganda,
all these things to really focus in on the younger generations.
I do see a good side of this. I see
a lot of people that are raising their children to
turn away from the system, homeschooling not be a part

(01:51:57):
of this matrix slave programming. But how is the critical
time where we need to really take the reins and
control of what our next generation is being exposed to.

Speaker 4 (01:52:10):

Speaker 2 (01:52:14):
I think what's happening with the younger generation is an
absolute travity travesty. It's basically threatening the freedom and future
of humanity where we're at at the moment. Just what
was happening with children before all the handheld slave devices
was frightening anyway, from the whole like ultrasounds during pregnancy

(01:52:38):
to the hospital births, and then the elective cesarean sections
and then the all the shots and then the public
education system which is just a public slave system. I
mean that the whole like just indoctrinating people into believing
that it's okay for some people to have more power
than others and control over it. It's and then the television,

(01:53:03):
and it's it's just been child abuse from the get
go for children. And then now what's happening with you know,
little kids being given screens so that they relate more
to life through a black screen than they do to
you know, the world, Like they're not even reading facial
cues or understanding what it means to have eye contact

(01:53:27):
or how to resolve a conflict in real life. There's
so many ways of being human and skills that are
needed that are being that aren't being practiced because of
how children have been given these devices to basically babysit
and parent them. And I hear what you're saying. There

(01:53:48):
definitely is an increase in the amount of homeschooling, and
I know there are a lot of parents who do
take the time to protect their children from the rest
of the bullshit. But still, I wonder, you know, people say, oh,
there's so much hope in the future generation, Well have
you seen them? Have you seen them? They're looking down

(01:54:10):
at a screen for their direction. And I'm so grateful
that I grew up without a cell phone, that I
had some time in my life where I related to
the world without a screen running running the day because
it's so it's so addictive. I know that I'm addicted now,
but it's because I have an awareness of how addictive

(01:54:32):
they are that I can step back. But it's the
same as being in a consciousness prison. Unless you know
that this isn't a good thing for you, then how
can you moderate that or break that addiction?

Speaker 5 (01:54:46):
And yeah, it's it's as we said earlier, everything starts
on a spiritual, energetic level, and with what the children
and the younger generations are being exposed to when it comes.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
To pharmaceuticals being the solution for all their problems, as
well as being plugged into this technology twenty four to seven,
that has to open them up to these dark energies
in very profound ways, and it has to be extremely
difficult for them to even be aware first of all

(01:55:20):
of any of this, and the longer that they allow
themselves to be open to it, the more damages being done.

Speaker 2 (01:55:28):
It is it is, and I don't know what the
solution for that is, because it really is, it's very simple,
but it's very hard because it means taking those devices
away from children at least for some time, and having
actual human time, time in nature, time, playing outside time,
playing with other children, family time, you know, other sorts

(01:55:52):
of games, learning how to cook, learning how to grow food,
learning how to resolve conflicts in a peaceful way, learning
how to be a good human. And I reckon that
one of the ways that those demonic forces come in

(01:56:13):
by lowering vibrations, happens through the black screen, happens through
those murderous video games, and those music videos, those satanic
music videos. They're all ways that these dark forces can
come in and influence young minds, but you know also

(01:56:34):
older people as well.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Yes, the level of psychological control that is based off
of dark arts, which you might call black magic, really
controlling the consciousness of society for hundreds, if not thousands
of years. These techniques that were passed down through these
secret societies, these powerful families to control the kingdoms. That's

(01:57:02):
what they were used for in our ancient past. Now
they're just used to control society. We've integrated these dark
magical practices with our knowledge of technology. Now we just
call it science and technology. It's become this new deified
energy that everyone is now seeming to worship. At least

(01:57:24):
too many people are worshiping technology g in this way,
and it's reflecting itself in extremely dangerous ways as we speak.

Speaker 2 (01:57:36):
It is. One section of the book that I've been
writing is on AI and how AI's been sold as
this way to enhance being human just in some ways
it's going to make us immortal, or make us have
super consciousness or live forever. It's such evil bullshit. We're

(01:57:57):
already immortal beings. We already have super consciousness that we
can access. We can already communicate telepathic, we can already
do pretty much anything that they are AI can do.
We don't really, we don't need it. And in fact
that by using it, the more we use it, the
more we sell out our species, the less human we become.

(01:58:20):
And the end result is that it's just soul harvesting
people living in these virtual worlds, soulless and just being
like a battery, you know, like the matrix. And it's
very dangerous because there are these people who have so
much power and influence are putting it forth as being

(01:58:43):
the the the way we should be heading if we
want to be the most highly evolved species we can be.
But it's actually the complete opposite. It's the devolution of
humanity and I reckon artificial intelligence. That's just kind of
a nice name for it. It's a in intelligence. No
one invented this shit. This comes from other dimensional technologies

(01:59:05):
that have been introduced to humanity by dark forces that
understand human consciousness way better than we do. They know
how to they know how to manipulate the game so
that we all just participate in our own enslavement.

Speaker 1 (01:59:24):
Well, for the last few minutes, let's talk a little
bit about some possible solutions, starting with a synopsis of
your book, New Human, New Earth.

Speaker 2 (01:59:38):
The best things that we can do right now are
what makes us most human, whether that's having a conversation
with another like minded human, growing food, cooking food, dancing, singing,
playing games, being out in nature, camping, hiking, spending as

(02:00:00):
as a little time as possible, interacting and using these
black screen technologies. Because there that's always going to be
a manipulation of some kind. There's really no point in
following along the news cycle. It's just designed to create
some kind of negative emotion, whether it's rage or fear,

(02:00:20):
or you know anxiety at some level, so really monitor.
I find that it's best to monitor my own consciousness,
my own state, and stay positive or neutral, but just
don't feed the beast with negative emotions. That doesn't mean
I don't get enraged or whatever, but just not to
be staying in that state, not to be staying angry,

(02:00:42):
not to be spewing out hatred and trusting. This is
another thing that it's a huge part of this is
trusting that what is unfolding on the deepest level is
actually serving the freedom and future of humanity, and that
is that there's an influx of light that is transforming

(02:01:06):
all of us, you know, from the DNA to our
collective arrangements. And the reason why there's all this shit
show going on, bullshit elections and transgender shit, it's all
to distract us from what's really going on, and that
is that there's an increase in light that is available
to us at any time, which is to receive it,

(02:01:26):
and that is going to continue to evolve us and
free us from this system of enslavement. Now, how we
know that the frequency of light is increasing is because
the human resonance is fluctuating at higher levels than it
always has, and that's the vibration, the average vibrational frequency

(02:01:47):
of the Earth. It's like that pulse of the Earth,
and that's measured fluctuates during the day, but it's actually
had much higher fluctuations, so that shows there's an increase
in energy where and then I also follow astrology too,
so to be another way to be empowered is do
follow astrology. Learn your own astrology, because that's going to

(02:02:07):
give you more insights into yourself than pretty much anything else.
And also the astrology helps to explain what's happening globally.
So we are now traveling through this photon bell, so
there's more high intensity light in terms of where we're
moving through the solar system. There's been the highest registered

(02:02:29):
energetic particle from a observatory in Australia. It's the highest
frequency particle that's ever been registered. They got that. And
also there's the solar storms that have just been unleashed.
You know, just recently there was a massive solar storm,
so we're getting what we used to get in terms
of X, M and C class flares in a month

(02:02:53):
now happens in a week. So there's all this energy
that's available to us constantly. It is always giving life
force energy that's its nature to give. And so the
most optimal state to receiving that energy, that information, those
life codes is to be relaxed. So any way that

(02:03:19):
you could lie on the earth, meditate on the earth,
and that is a way of receiving the life giving information.
And that also can happen without necessarily being in nature.
You can just use your intention and invite in those energies.

(02:03:39):
So also eating high vibration foods. You know, sprout your
own sprouts, that's one of the most high vibrational foods.
You can do that on your own counter, Do mung beans, lentils,
you know, alfalfa sprouts, broccoli sprouts, anything like that is
going to give you the life force energy to remain
resilient with all these changes and all the chaos going on.

(02:04:06):
Exercise you don't have, you know, just every day do
something to sweat, to laugh, to help someone else, to
you know, help help your body stay healthy. Just doesn't
have to be a huge program, but just introduce a
few of these factors in and that that is for me,
that's the best way to navigate through this time. You know,

(02:04:27):
be a good person, help where you can and hold
that intention that that what I do is I hold
the intention that I'm here to serve in any way
i can serve the greatest good and and then listen
to intuition however that speaks, you know, however that speaks

(02:04:48):
to you, and then follow those instructions and then trust.

Speaker 1 (02:04:51):
That's something I wanted to touch on is intuition. Synchronicities.
This was a huge one for me. The messages that
the universe are surroundings people around us, things that occur,
the way things happen, these synchronistic events that lead us
on certain paths. Being able to become aware and pay

(02:05:12):
attention to those things in a way has become so
beneficial for me and continues to lead me to bigger
and better things in my life. And I believe that's
what if. Whether you want to call it God, source
or the universe speaking to us in different ways, and
I believe it speaks to everyone. We just got to
pay attention to it.

Speaker 2 (02:05:34):
Yes, it does speak to everyone. It's fabulous. I don't
know how I can't live my life without that. That's
what I followed. I followed dreams, I followed you know,
books that have opened up to certain pages and followed
the direction out of that, or followed just what I feel,
what feels right, and that's been my guiding force. And

(02:05:56):
it's so fun. It's so fun. It's absolutely straordinary. The
synchronicities that can happen. I mean, I can hear a
word being spoken and it's the word that I'm writing
on the page. You know that those sorts of things
happen a lot and number synchronicities, and you know, non
physical teachers that show up and teach me, Like I
remember I was writing about the Hermitic principles and so

(02:06:20):
I have thought turn up and you know, he teaches me.
And once, once I really tuned in and trusted my
inner world, then it's it's made life so absolutely extraordinary.
There's things that cannot be explained and it's just gratitude

(02:06:41):
that can be given. And that's another that's another practice
that is essential, and that's having gratitude from the smallest
thing to whatever's going on in the world. Because gratitudes,
it's like the it's what creates grace. That's my experience
of it.

Speaker 1 (02:07:01):
Yes, that is a perfect note to end on. Isabella.
Thank you so much. This is great information. And I'd
definitely love to have you back on There's so much
more that we can discuss before you go. Let the
audience know where they can find your books, website, anything
else you have out there.

Speaker 2 (02:07:22):
Well, thanks Chris. I really appreciate speaking with someone who
understands what's going on. It's really heartwarming. Gives me a
lot of faith in humanity that there are people who
know what's going on and raising alarm bells and providing
information that does help people through these times because it
can be pretty rocky sometimes. So my website is feeling

(02:07:46):
Better Naturally dot Love and my book is available on Amazon.
That's The Putting on the Armor of God and the
New Human New Earth will be out in a couple
of months hope. And I'm also on substack feeling Better
Naturally and on my YouTube channel feeling Better Naturally. I

(02:08:09):
speak as well as present some of the beautiful nature
that's around me, from underwater to birds and whatever else
is going on, because even just seeing images of nature
can be healing, like even the look appreciating the color
green or whatever it is. There's so many things that
we can do that are medicine for us that that's

(02:08:33):
effective and free and powerful.

Speaker 1 (02:08:37):
Yep, it's all out there, all provided by God, all
ready for us to use. Isabella, thank you so much.
This was fantastic. Like I said, we'll definitely do this again.
And until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening. We'll
talk again tomorrow and we'll see y'all then.

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