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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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and welcome back to the show, Sean Hibbler. He decided

(00:43):
to change his career from producing sports related hype videos
and highlight reels to dedicating his time on producing short
films and documentaries based off of transparency and truth. Sean,
welcome back. How you doing good.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
Man, Thank you for having me back. I appreciate it
as always.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Yes, great to have you back. This is gonna be
a very interesting show today. We're gonna dive back into
really one of the most divisive and controversial topics being
discussed today, and that's the possibility that we reside not
on a ball hurling through space, but a stationary realm
some call flat Earth. I like how you call it

(01:26):
true Earth. I myself am still in the camp of
I have no idea what we're in, but I know
I don't trust anything NASA, the government, or mass media
tell me. I believe that anything we see on television
or social media has the Syop stamp of approval. If
you see it on the news, if you hear it
from the government, it has cleared the proper propaganda channels

(01:49):
and has been approved for your consumption. I can't wait
to get into this. You have some very interesting insights
into this, and you have your new film since the
next level with me, which we're going to discuss today.
Before we get into this. For the audience that may
not be familiar, remind them a little bit about yourself
and what brought you to make this film.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I'm Sean Hibbler from Hiblo Productions, filmmaker by day,
producer by night. You know, I have been making videos
on the truth. I'm going to be blatant about it
since twenty sixteen. Then YouTube started abandon me and censoring
me and striking me, and then the plandemic happened, and

(02:33):
then I decided to start my own business and become
a full time filmmaker and travel and make films that
the truth community wants in the sense of not for them,
but for their peers, for the people they're trying to
wake up. I'm kind of like the middle man in
a sense where it's like everybody's talking about either Tartaria

(02:53):
or flat Earth or nine to eleven whatever rabbit hole,
and when they're, in my opinion, when their peers are like, well,
what can we watch on it? Oh, and then at
that point it becomes YouTube channels, content creators, things like that,
which wake all of us up. But when when there's
something in the sense of a film, a documentary, something,

(03:14):
especially if they could stream it on their TV and
download it, you know, it's like it gives it that
authentic feel where it's like, hey, this is a real film.
Let's sit down and watch and absorb the information the
same way that we've all been programmed in our in
our childhood through through film and movies of lies. So
I'm trying to do kind of the same concept that
we got fucked up with growing up with the brainwatching,

(03:34):
but I'm trying to do it with truth entertainment, you know,
entertaining and truth combined, It's like, how do you do that?
I'm trying so and that's what I do, man, is
I'm trying to make films on topics that people want
to know about, people want to hear about and learn about,
but not bore them right on.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
Well, when it comes to this particular topic about the
realm we live on, what were some of the most
profound pieces of the puzzle and bits of information for
you that really got you to start looking more deeper
into this.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, in terms of Earth, it was more about proving
the globe to myself in the beginning stages. I'm not
a gullible person. I didn't just like, oh, look a
flat Earth video. Oh man, I'm awaken now. I watched
a video on YouTube. It was many, many weeks and
months of researching kind of when I heard when I

(04:30):
saw two hundred proofs the video by Eric Dubey, it
made me question some stuff, and I think as a
grown man or woman, it will that video will make
you question things. It doesn't matter. I don't care how
much you're married to this ball Earth and how much
you love it and how many posters and hoodies and
magazines and comic books you have that video will still
make you go, you know what, Yeah, I guess that

(04:52):
does a few of those things at least make sense. Right,
So that's kind of where I started, and I'm like, Okay,
this is making sense, this is kind of creepy. Let
me just squash this dark rabbit holes seemed like at
the time, like that was like a deep one. I
don't know about this one. Don't want to get made
fun of, right, who does? But I'm a realist man.
So I just went to NASA's website. That's it. I

(05:15):
just went to their website and I looked around myself
with a critical eye, probably for the first time, but again,
from a child, you're taught this stuff, and as you
grow up it's really not brought up again. It's all
over the place. It's everywhere. It's in every movie, every show.
There's just a globe place there. Right, It's like it's
always everywhere, logos, everything, brainwashing mechanisms are just glow glow

(05:40):
globes growing up. But it's not like in high school
as a freshman they're talking about curvature, or they're talking about,
you know, the rotation of the spin of the earth.
As a freshman, or as a senior, it doesn't happen really,
so it's kind of like out of side, out of
mind as you grow up. And then all of a sudden,
this wave of truth started happening, I think since nine

(06:01):
to eleven, but it really picked up in twenty thirteen,
twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, it started getting heated and with
the Earth. For me, it was just going to NASA's
website and seeing that it's it's all cartoons and cgi
and glamorous things that look pretty. But I'm like, wait
a minute, that doesn't for sure, that's not a photograph,

(06:22):
you know. So then I'm looking on their website for photograph,
the word photograph, photograph taken by you know, astronaut bill
or something. No image, image, image, image, image, image. It's
nothing but images and photo image imagery, composite images where
they're admitting in the sense like, yeah, this is an image.
It's a representation of something artistically, but it's not a photograph.

(06:44):
No one went click click, and then here's a photo
of the Earth, or of Mars, or of all this
stuff that they sell us since birth. So that really
made me go, wait a minute. Then I started looking
at documents of NASA's I said, well, legally, I have
to put spherical. You know that they test their aircraft,

(07:05):
for instance, over a sphere that's rotating at this much,
you know, miles per hour. And when I start looking
at their documents, all their documents stay about at least
our aircraft's talk about a non rotating flat, stationary Earth.
And I couldn't blieve my eyes. That's the moment where
I go, Okay, there's something here. Because NASA's documents are
legally admitting this, and no one's talking about it. No

(07:28):
one knows about these and not only that, why would
they have that at all? Ever, even as a quote
unquote of flat Earth. We're just testing over flat We're
just gonna put some quotes. So the military has documents
talking about the same thing. So does the CIA. So
again for me not seeing any concrete evidence on NASA's
own website and then seeing their own documents and the

(07:49):
military and the CIA state the same, and hearing tons
of pilots in person just walking out of a plane,
Hey guys, I got a question. It was a no brain.
I was like, oh maeah, yeah, we're flying over a
stationary plane. What's this motive here? What a big lie.
Holy shit, they lie about so many things. So I
wasn't too shocked, but I was more along the lines

(08:10):
of why are they doing this? Why would they need
to do this? Now it all makes sense, but in
the beginning I had no idea why. I had no clue,
so it was confusing.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
How many pilots have you interviewed or spoken to about this?

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Very interviewed? Only a few in terms of video conference
calls or audio or whatever may have you. In person,
many but not an interview style. I'm not going to
go in the cockpit with a film, you know, like
my cinematic camera, Like I sit down real quick, you
got a minute. Eventually, I'll work my way to try
to figure out how to get that done. These pilots

(08:43):
are scared. I know a pilot in Austria. I'm not
gonna name names, but it's the point of legit. Pilots
don't want to be face on film. Hey, guys, I
can prove the Earth's stationary plane by my instruments, because
then they're canceled, they're suicided. Who knows. Who knows, But
again it's up to them, and you can't make someone
go outside of their comfort zone. Man, But I do have.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Any of those guys told you that they are indeed
being like threatened or anything.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
No, it's not the case. I do know of, not personally,
but I do know of a pilot through third party
peers that have told me that they interview them on
a podcast or something. They or they were fired twy
two different times. I've heard that story. I wasn't involved
in that, but I heard those stories, and I think
because of those stories and because of who knows what

(09:32):
else really goes on behind the scenes. Like the pilot,
the specific one I'm talking about in Austria who's helped
me out in the past with just information. Right, he's
a pilot and he knows he can prove this. I
might be next year, I might be traveling out to
Austria to go up into plane with them. I think
the deal would just be maybe blur his face or

(09:54):
disguise at that point. But he's like, fuck this, man,
I'm sick of it. I'm gonna I got balls. Let's
do so let's go up in the air. You go.
You know, we got gyroscopes, we got this, we got that.
So it's like, let's do something type of vibe and
again nine out of ten flights I go on, and
I travel a lot nowadays, I always ask and eventually
I'm probably gonna get as shady as this might sound,

(10:16):
but sometimes being a filmmaker, you gotta think outside the box.
I think I might just get those camera glasses and
just go into cockpits every flight and talk to them
and then blur their face. I'll blur their face, guys,
because I respect them their profession. I'll even alter their voice.
I'll go the extra mile.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
The only issue is the backlash that I foresee is oh, well,
we can't see their mouth. That's dub lit, you know,
dubbed or whatever. So that's what annoys me about that
whole concept is people will just come back, oh that
you know, Yeah, I can't really tell if that's him.
You can't see their mouth, and it's ridiculous. It's like
I'm trying to protect their identity in their career. So
you have to you have to work with me. So

(10:54):
if there's a way to meet them in the middle
or something, or maybe just blur everything but their mouth,
I don't know, but I'll try. But I've had too
many conversations even walking just walking in the in the airport,
the terminal, waiting. I see a pilot sitting down, you know,
eating his lunch or something, wait till he doesn't need
his lunch. He's just chilling, and I just go sit
by him, like, hey, I got a quick question, man,
I say, you know, you're a pilot. I always fuck

(11:14):
with I always talk to him, and and there's not
maybe one so notch globe, notch globe. Now we're spinning.
And then he got like triggered and then like left,
like didn't want to talk. I even sat next to
one on a plane once the whole flight, and he
wasn't a flat earther. But once I started, I started
doing my thing where I started acting like I'm just confused,
Like I'm like, but how does this make sense? Man?

(11:36):
I always blame my cousin. I don't have a cousin
I speak to, but it's like, yeah, my cousin. Man,
he's just getting on my nerves with this flatter stuff.
So that's kind of how That's how I do it
on a you know, in in in public, but I
getting I get in people's heads. Even the pilot was like,
you know, you're right like a lot of stuff. I'm like, man,
some of these policies you just don't know. Man, there's
just like a teacher of school. They're opening up a

(11:58):
Rockefeller book and they're lying to every child, but the
teacher doesn't really know, like can you go into school?
Like fuck you teacher. No, Like they don't know. And
I don't think some of these pilots to know either,
but a lot of them do. A lot of them do. Man,
it's great.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
What are some of the most interesting things that pilots
have told you that indicate weird indeed on a float?

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Well, the fact that they never ever want and they
laugh about this one, that they don't dip their nose
down ever. And if you take if you scale down,
you know, if you do something around the computer, you
scale down a globe, and you scale down the airplane,
and you're going from the top of the ball to
the bottom. So I would just say us all the
way down to China, you're gonna you have to dip

(12:39):
the nose of your plane down, like what this is?
This is beyond common sense, and you have to do
it consistently to go you're going around the ball while
it's spinning. It's like doesn't even it doesn't even make
sense how you can even fly if that was the case,
We're going four different directions. Oh, but they're like, oh,
the airplane spins with the earth. Oh, it's spinning with
the earth. Okay, that that's what takes away from helicopters

(13:01):
just rising up and then you land in Africa. So
like they have an excuse for everything, but the excuse
doesn't make sense along with the valid proof of it.
There is none. So a lot of the Polots would
just tell me that the the they I'm sorry, they
they the only direction they go while they're flying is
maybe point one or point two degrees up. They dip

(13:23):
their nose up. They never dip their nose down. If
they dip their nose down, we're fucking landing the plane, guys,
and you're gonna feel that. You're gonna wake up to
that dip. So that and the fact that they, you know,
based on their artificial horizon their gyroscope, there is no curvature,
there is no movement. They can see stuff five six,
seven hundred miles away in the distance through their cockpit.
I've heard too, So it's like, uh, yeah, that should

(13:45):
be hidden by like like twenty miles of curvature just
down the ball. But you see all this shit ahead
of you. They can see like two states away. They're like, yeah,
we're it looks like Kansas has a storm. I'm like,
how the fuck do you know this? I'm looking like
where we are and they can see so far there's
we're not on a ball man.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
What would you or do you think are some of
the biggest reasons why this is something that would be
hidden from the masses, why they'd want to keep what
we're on a secret from us?

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Well, there's two. For me, there's two. One is the creator.
I think it pushes people away from even the possibility
of a creator. What it does is it takes a
distant God or a godless world and it destroys it,
flat Earth, crumbles it, because which is what they want.
We all know that they would love a godless world,

(14:38):
a Big Bang theory, godless scientific pseudoscience world, or at
least a distant god where you know, the closest star
is thirty six trillion miles away, So how far the
fuck far is God?

Speaker 3 (14:49):
Like?

Speaker 2 (14:49):
The God?

Speaker 1 (14:49):
Damn?

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Like, you can't feel real connections with some distances. They
tell you you short circuit your brain with these distances.
So I think the creator they push it away. They
want people to it at minimum, just believe in a god.
It's bullshit to me. I hate believing. You should hate
believing and stuff too. That's that's for Santa Claus fairy
tales believing. I believe. I know there's a creator, and

(15:12):
now I used to kind of not know, or maybe
lean towards atheism. But once you understand the design, and
once you see his creation, you can't unsee it. You
can't unsee the system that was designed for us. And
these lights in the sky above us are close and small,
and they're they're designed for us, and there's purposes for
them as humans, and we thrive off of them. And

(15:34):
this is what our designer did for us. But again,
so besides the creator, it also it hides more land,
it hides more resources, it hides more exploration and opportunity
and the unknown right where it's like, hey, well let's
go past the sixtieth because people tell me, by the time,
where's the edge, the Earth's flat, where's the edge? Well,
none of us have ever ever mentioned an edge, ever

(15:56):
mentioned falling off something, or ever said we're a pancake
floating in space. This is a realm. It is a
design system that is contained from the top. In my opinion,
it's just it's some sort of hydrogen above us, like
H three, A really dense, impenetrable form of water above us,

(16:16):
which is why the sky is blue, which is why
the rain comes down, which is why the old tails
of fish coming from the sky all day. All that
starts making sense in that point. But at the same time,
if you go outside of the seven continents that we know,
everyone's seen a flat Earth map, So whether you laugh
at it or not, you've seen one. Some of them
are kind of eh. But at the same time, you

(16:37):
can concept what I'm saying. Outside of those seven continents,
what's holding those seven continents and the oceans? The water
that we know the world ocean's in is Antarctica. It's
the highest land mass on Earth for a good reason.
It has to hold in our ocean. I always call
it a giant bathtub. But it doesn't necessarily connect. There's

(16:57):
probably inlinds and openings and it melts and who knows
how all of the system works. But at the same time,
water needs to be contained. But once you get outside
of that container, as I joke, and once you hop
outside your bathtub, there could be other bathtubs over there. Man,
we don't know. And once you realize that. In nineteen
fifty eight, when Amiral Bird went over there and said, hey,

(17:18):
there's another continent to size North America. No one's ever
seen it, and he was blown away. I can't believe
no one's been to this continent. It's huge. And they're like, oh, yeah,
that was on live TV. Let's just okay, hey kill
him six months later and then we'll do a treaty
where no one can travel over there ever again. And

(17:38):
then we'll start NASA from Nazi traders to just manipulate you.
And then we'll have fifteen years of pre programming you
for walking on the moon a rock in the sky.
Apparently we're gonna go walk on that, but we're gonna
have fifteen years of pre programming you with Walt Disney's help,
and then we're gonna give you a shitty, black and white,

(17:59):
sketchy moon landing. Talk to the president on a landline phone,
do nothing until the challenger we have to fake to
play some violin strings that make and get more money,
steal more money from you, and then do nothing again
until flat Earth comes out. NASA has done nothing for humanity,
nothing for you the listener, nothing for your mother or
your grandma. They've done nothing. But yet the space agencies

(18:21):
steal because yes it's stealing. They don't do anything, and
they lie. They're stealing three hundred and thirty minimum billion
dollars a year, three hundred and thirty billion a year
and tax money to lie to you and to possibly again.
I can't go over there and check, guys. But all
the red flags, multiple multiple red flags that there's more
land and in the north too as well. Man All

(18:43):
ancient maps civilizations spoke about four land masses in the north,
a magnetic force in the north, a magnetic mountain called
Mountain Marou, which is why all compasses point north. There's
a force there that are are creator designed, and we're
supposed to go pass over there. We're supposed to come
and pass come past the old tail with the compass,
but you're supposed to be going that. Well, we're supposed

(19:05):
to go to the north and see what's there, and
we're also not allowed to go there. Go ahead and try.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
While we're on the topic of possibly having way more
land than we'd ever been told or know about. The
theory is that what we know as the continents on
our planet, or these seven continents, are surrounded by a
massive wall of ice, and outside of that is many

(19:32):
different continents. And I've seen the old maps that indicate
this very thing, where there's like twelve or thirteen land
messes outside of this circle that surrounds us. First of all,
could you tell us a little bit more about that
map and where that was found? What that is?

Speaker 2 (19:48):
Yeah? Yeah, Well, to me, anything above seventy three miles
below seven point five miles down, and anything outside the
sixtieth parallel or speculation. And I'm going to repeat that,
anything that goes up past seventy three miles, because that's
the highest recorded anything I've ever seen, which was an

(20:09):
amateur rocket that hit something. They couldn't go past it.
Anything seventy three miles up seven point five I believe
miles downs the Guinness Book or World records for the
deepest hole ever dug seven point five seven point eight miles.
Anything below there, it's it's impenetrable too. They've already admitted that.
So anything below seven point five miles is speculation, and

(20:31):
anything past sixties parallel is speculation. Man, So I'm gonna
it's just a warning that I'm speculating at this point.
But yeah, there has been many maps of the past.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
There was an old map found in a Buddhist temple
that had like at least forty continents on there. I
believe with our known continents that we know about that
we kind of similar shapes in the center, so that
that kind of was like, wait, you know, even if
it was a fantasy, it's like, why don't we know
about this till this truth leak started coming out in

(21:03):
twenty fourteen. This should have been something that we laugh
about as kids or something. Oh yeah, there used to
be these old maps. This is hidden stuff, man, this
is stuff that's just surfacing.

Speaker 1 (21:11):
Now.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
There was a book in many books in eighteen hundreds
talking about more Land as well and other maps, But
the main book is that the Iron Republic, which is
I Win his testimony of a man his first hand
account of being fed up in the Tyrannical States and
getting in a ship, getting his crew together, getting the
fuck out, saying let's just get out, let's just go somewhere,

(21:34):
and wherever we land, we land. They got lost at sea,
they got lost. They knew they were at Antarctica. They
didn't know how to get back around. They got through
an inland, they got passed. They were lost for many,
many weeks, and then they stumbled upon land, not knowing
what it was. And the civilization called themselves the Iron Republic.
They knew that when they said they're from New York,
they knew where New York was not allowed to be here,

(21:56):
vice versa. But they greeted him with open arms. They
had advanced technology over there. I'm talking flat screen TVs
hung on the wall. They describe things that sounded like
the Internet in the book. They're talking about electric cars,
hovering crafts, electrostatics, all this technology in these outer worlds,
these civilizations that I think we go over there and

(22:16):
steal and come here and sell it to us. They
have free energy over there. There were things in the
book that even if you think the book was fantasy,
you could pretend. That's fine. It's an illusion if you
think that was a fantasy, But pretend it was a
fantasy books. I'm sure like Wikipedia would probably say it was.
They're still talking about more Land past Antarctica, there's more continence.
They're still talking about civilizations over there and flat screen TVs,

(22:39):
electric cars. The technology that we have now was being
written about in the eighteen hundreds. It's really crazy. What
was the other one? Smoky God, the World's beyond the polls.
These are books from eighteen hundreds, copyright in eighteen hundreds,
written by men and women that had this experience over there.
So when Amir Bird actually went over there to check,
oh yeah, there's more. So what they do to the

(23:01):
new world that we're a part of now, this slave system,
they completely indotrinated us. With moon landings coming soon, forget
about Bird, never mention that shit again and start a
treaty where you can't explore past where he was talking about,
and you still can't. And that treaty started in nineteen
fifty nine or eight, and it doesn't expire till twenty

(23:24):
forty something, and that was back then. They're like, doesn't
expire till year two thousand and forty, I think forty five,
And it's still going on now. And if we dissolve
that treaty, we'd have our answer.

Speaker 1 (23:33):
Guys. Admiral Bird's diary this was brought forward by his son. Correct,
and this is the only verification we have.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah, that's why I don't talk about it too much.
But yeah, there was a leak diary out there of
Admiral Bird where it rains true to me, man, it
feels true to me. It feels like this is something
they would cover up and sometimes the truth could be crazy, guys, Pee,
I don't know why people believe they believe in gray,
gray men with bug eyes flying in on space crabs

(24:04):
from forty billion light years away. That's okay for people
to grasp with no evidence, but it's not okay for
someone to think that there's maybe more land, more civilizations, humanoids,
other humanoids over there. They look they have teeth, they
have eyes. You know, they're just like humans, but maybe
a different shade, maybe a different structure, the way an

(24:25):
Indian looks different than a fucking African American, or a
Asian looks different than a Jew. It's like you could
get any two ethnicities or races or whatever you want
to call them, that we all look different. We're all
human though, we all piss and shit, guys. But there
could be more of us somewhere else, is all I'm
saying at least that's what has been stated in the
eighteen hundreds.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Now, just like many of the other conspiracy or truth
communities that are circulating, like even in the UFO for community,
for example, there has been infiltration three letter agencies, military
industrial individuals looking to muddy the waters. And I think
that's no different with the flat Earth movement. And I

(25:09):
think a perfect example of that would be the Flat
Earth Society. A lot of things that came out of there.
I think there's a lot of just complete crap and
misinformation coming out of that, but it's intentionally done to
discredit it, right.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Yes, well yeah, I mean the Flash Society has been
around right after NASA, not too long after NASA started,
maybe ten maybe ten years, fifteen years at the most.
They knew a lot of people knew the Earth was flat,
and they weren't going to be bought on any that
they just like when you know, you know, so there's
no you know, no piece of propaganda is going to
change society's mind, especially then, but they knew that they

(25:48):
needed something to fall back on, kind of like a
watching a nine to eleven conspiracy documentary on nine to eleven,
like what are you going to learn from that. Really,
they're going to tell you the truth. The most you'll
learn is, oh, I think George Bush kind of knew.
Oh my god, Like really that's so irrelevant to that day.
But it's the same thing where it's like the flatter
society will be like, oh, yeah, there is flat but

(26:09):
did you know that it's a pancake and space and
it's going up. It's flying up, so gravity's going down,
but we're flying up at a constant velocity. So they're
just like, it's just garbage. It's garbage information. None of
it is anything we speak about. And what they do
is they merge that in with Hollywood. So now Hollywood,
a CNN, the media, anyone when they depict flat Earth

(26:32):
or where they want to make fun of it or
have a piece on it, Jimmy Kimmel, anybody that they
show that pancake and space because they want their normal
person or even the person that goes you know what.
There is some questions I have though some of the
flatter stuff makes sense, and then they fall back to
the pancake and space. They can't get over that. They're like, yeah, no,
that doesn't well, no, we're not saying that though, and

(26:53):
then they go to Netflix and they see behind the
curve and then they hit play, and then they see
a bunch of you know, people that are just, in
my opinion, some of the people in the film are
just you know, controlled man put it that way, and
they go in there to make their money and to
do the damage that they've done. And then some of

(27:14):
the people are innocent in that film that were edited
and played out of context, like when Bob Nodell rests
in peace when he says something like, you know, the
we saw the fifteen degree rotation of the of the
ring laser gyroscope. He was speaking about the sky. But
Netflix and Delta Productions, they're not going to tell you
the truth. They're not going to tell you what we're

(27:34):
talking about. They're going to show a globe spinning and
then oh look, Bob just said that the earth spinning
fifteen degrees. No he didn't. You're taking out of context.
This is a mockumentary made from Hollywood. NASA, they all
got involved in this. You don't have NASA astronauts and
you don't walk into NASA's facility with open arms if
there's not a plan. So they knew exactly what they

(27:54):
were going to do to spin this flat earth because
it was blowing up. It was number one, it was viral,
it was, you know, being searched more than Trump and
Hillary at that time. What are they going to do?
They hijack the algorithm. Sorry, everyone that had their algorithms
jack those flatter. It's fault. But this is how big
it was. They put all their money into hit piece
after hit piece, after Comedy Central skit, after Neil Degrass,

(28:17):
Tyson bit, Bill Nigh, everyone, everyone involved. Ludacris go out
there say something that flatters the stupid They did everything
they could, just like COVID. They did everything they could
to sell the fact that we are in a ball,
but yet they still have yet to prove it. It's
twenty twenty three, guys. We should have a video of

(28:37):
an astronaut doing a three sixty with his camera phone
by now. The reason he can't do a three sixty
with his phone is because there's a thing called a
fourth wall, and you can't do a three sixty in
a TV show either, guys, And that's something that we
should have. We should have unedited footage from ground to
this upper space fantasy with pov would seeing space junk

(29:01):
with seeing shit everywhere. That's never happened. Guys, Zero times
in humanity have they filmed anyone going into this space
thing and seeing all this beautiful space shit. It's never happened.
There's zero footage of it. And I'm sick of it.
I'm sick of the lie. It's gone on too long.
And for people that are in the truth community, meaning

(29:24):
they're against this COVID shit, they're against nine to eleven,
they now understand the truth. What is the hold up?
That's what I'd like to know. And that's the number
one question I have for everyone listening is what the
fuck is the hold up? The ridicule stopped once the
algorithms were changed. People woke up. Boay, hold on, they're
flagging all this flatter stuff. They're hiding all of it.
Come on, guys, let's be realistic here.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Now. Let's get into some of the evidence that you're
presenting in the newest film. You focus on the satellite
enigma of satelloons. Tell us a little bit about what
you learned about this and why this indicates that we're
not on what we're being told.

Speaker 2 (30:03):
Yeah, well, you know, when you ask anyone in society
in the middle of the street, Hey, what's the satellite?
And the number one thing they'll say is a something
orbiting our ball Earth, spinning around, maintaining its position while
everything's going in four different motions. This satellite is maintaining
its position and keeping up with the rotation and doing

(30:26):
all that magically. Never been filmed, but that's what they'll think, right,
and that's what we're sold on. But in the film
level with me, we befriended randomly too, which is not randomly.
I'd call it God or the universe leading me there.
But you know, me and my buddy Tanner Stewart, we

(30:46):
went to Texas to we just wanted to film a
shot of him speaking of satellites about all attached on
They're all attached on balloons. Since they started, they still are.
Every single one of them has a balloon attached to
him and via the helium, which NASA owns all the
helium in the world. So that's a whole nother story.
But we just wanted to film just aesthetics and we

(31:10):
drove all the way over there in Texas little town
and this is the head of NASA's stalloon launch facility.
It's their scientific balloon Center. It's the main hub in
America where they launch all their satellites. Okay, and again
just esthetically, hey get it for the background. Let's film,

(31:31):
And all of a sudden there's employees leaving for the day,
and they did not like us filming outside. They're revenue engine.
They're driving by us. I think they're just closing up.
We didn't know. I'm like, oh shit, I'm like, well,
maybe we should wait. It seemed like the last guy
was either listening or watching from his truck whatever. He
comes over in his white truck, makes a bee line

(31:52):
in my camera into my camera zone. You're in public
property now, man, you just fucked up. You don't know
how many millions of people I've already seen you. But
he came in, you know, what do you do when
you can't be filming? And we're reminded him quickly that
this is the public property here, and then he quickly
was like kind of realized it. Oh, and then we

(32:12):
befriended him. Not that he's not my enemy. He works
for NASA, probably one of the head guys over there
at the facility, and you know, he's leaving and seeing
who the fuck we are, And you know, he admits
that he has no idea what we're talking about. When
I kept bringing up or Tanner kept saying, like, what's
up with these satellites orbiting, you know, up in space

(32:33):
and and he's like, what just confused, I'm like the
ones without balloons, And he's like, I don't know. I'm
like what, you know, like the and he's like, he's like,
I doesn't know what we're talking about. And all he's
doing is confirming to us that they're all on balloons.
And there's tons of footage of these satalloons from the

(32:56):
fifties to today being launched wed.

Speaker 1 (33:00):
Because I've if you google this, it seems like they're
making it out to be that it has always been
a normal thing, that they're launching these on balloons now.
And I swear I grow up and I've never heard
of this. I always thought the balloons were being launched
on the rocket launches. Cape Canaveral would be launching them

(33:21):
and then they would go into an orbit around the planet. Oh,
but that's what my understanding was.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
It's all pure fantasy. Man. There was a book written
think in the fifties or sixties by Arthur C. Clark
regarding that, I mean satellite fantasy, you know, fantasy set.
It's a book. It started as a book for those
that want to know the history of it. It just started
as a fantasy book, the way all globe stuff does.
It starts as a fantasy story. And I think NASA

(33:51):
just decided, Hey, let's just put it out there that
that's what we do. I mean, think about a NASA
rocket launch when when the NASA dweebs of the world
are sitting there around eating their popcorn watching the launch
three two one, right, I don't They don't do many anymore.
SpaceX got the reins because they got more audience. NASA
fails so many times that they're losing audience. But if
NASA did a launch tomorrow or SpaceX doesn't matter, you

(34:13):
will see that they're you'll hear the operator all right,
all right, so we're gonna project the satellites go all right, RELEASA.
So they're launching satellites into space, Like you said, that's
what you thought they were doing, which is what they
still show us they're doing. But can I foot into
that satellite? And not only that, but I thought that
there was tens of thousands of them at all times

(34:36):
magically orbiting our book. Can I have one shot of that?
And while supposed to like, while I see the shot
of that, you should be you should be able to see,
you know, meteors and crazy shit and planets and and
all this space junk and fucking orbiting movements and listen, guys,

(34:58):
there's no video. Fo what is your evidence of anything
you think that there is or there should be, There's none.
All you ever see is a selfie of an astronaut
and they show like a little little curve behind their
shoulder a little glow. Dude, that's a layer. That is
a thirty mile up jet or hot air balloon, whatever

(35:18):
technology they have that is recording our stationary plane like
all amateur higher balloons. Without a fish eye lens goes up,
you see a stationary flat horizon. Nastay does the same thing,
probably an eight K and then they go in the studio,
or they add the fish eye lens while while it's
up there, or they can just go in the studio
and attach a fish shye lens filter effect and it

(35:41):
bends it however they want. They could bend it a lot.
They could bend it a little, and then that's the
background layer. Guys, that's it.

Speaker 3 (35:48):
Now.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
The astronaut is the front layer. And that's why they're
not doing three sixties. That's why there is no zooming in.
Why can't the astronaut go up there and zooming on
an airplane or zooming on something upside down or a boat,
a ship, do something, zooming on another, zooming on an airplane,
zooman on something, do something besides the rhetoric, the bullshit

(36:09):
that you have sold us for the last ten years
that people have been watching, at least they have done,
they have accomplished and proven nothing, and it's twenty twenty
three and people still want to fall for it. It's sad, man,
It really is sad. Unless you're a double mass double
jab sheep. I don't care about them that they're not
for this awakening, They're not for this this war will

(36:31):
they will lose in this war. They're going to lose
their lives unfortunately if they keep going the way they're going.
But for the people that are awakened and the people
that are against the system, you can't defend a unproven
ball earth theory started by Jesuits and Freemasons, and you know,
different groups that don't have your best interests, but they

(36:53):
want you to be filled with nonsense. You can't defend
it anymore, I don't see. I think that's why a
lot of people are waking up to flat earth now
more than ever, is because they can't fight it anymore.
They know that they can't prove this shit, this ball earth.
They got to give it up. Sam Tripley, I give
you know much love to him. He's finally done with it.

(37:14):
You know, It's like and more people will follow. In
my opinion, you can't keep talking truth and saying, oh,
maybe we're a ball No we're not. You know we're
now once you know we're not. It's just it's a
better feeling, man, because this isn't twenty sixteen. You're not
going to get made fun of anymore. Oh the Earth,
Oh you're a flat earther. That shit's done. I go
all over in public and people are like, you know

(37:36):
you got anything on that I've heard about that. They're
not like, oh, you're retired. It's a little bit changed
because of COVID man, and rightfully so as it should.
People should start waking up now. Everything's a lie, including
especially our history. Man, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
And I really like the term true Earth better than
flat Earth or anything like that, because I think it's
beyond anything anyone could ever under stand at this moment.
And I like to think of it maybe more along
the lines of a simulated holographic reality that renders and
replicates as we perceive it. Possibly, but definitely not what

(38:15):
the traditional model that we're being told of. A ball
hurling through space that is definitely out the window for me.
So realm possibly. So now, while we're on NASA still,
I want to go to the Challenger disaster, and you've
done some deeper research into this possibility that there was

(38:35):
no deaths on the Challenger explosion, that it was all faked,
it was an operation to perpetuate this the space myth.

Speaker 2 (38:44):
Well, yeah, like this. I mean, you know they're all
still here, you can't. It's one thing that there's one
out of seven astronauts that has a doppelganger with the
same name. One one that's weird, but I'd give it
a okay, a break, two would be super strange. Three

(39:06):
fuck that. But six, six out of seven have identical
looking doppelgangers today with the same name, and most of
them work for prestigious universities and they're protected. Get the
fuck out of here. Judith Resnik, you know, the NASA
astronaut from The Challenger. She is a current law professor

(39:30):
at Yale. In the film Level with Me. We did
approach her, you know, Project Veritas attempted style, but she,
as you could clearly see, freaked out and being under
probably a NDA or at least a or at the
most a you know, witness protection program that she's a

(39:52):
part of with this whole whole psyop. Just watch her
reaction is my point. But you know it's in the film.
Michael J. Smith approached him in his dry way, and
who is this guy? And yeah, I mean it's completely him.
I zoom it on his dimple. Here you see his
dimple birthmark, dimple like thing like an imprint in his

(40:12):
here and same, it's the same guy. Listen. It's one
thing to look like someone, okay, but six s out
of seven dead astronauts should not have six s out
of seven exact lookalikes, exact with the exact name that
again we only locate to in person. But both of

(40:35):
their reactions is film worth? You go watch it. Because
it shows you, like, holy shit, these guys lie, they're
actually alive. And even if we didn't approach these two
people in person, I still would have put in the film,
and I'd still be one hundred percent sure I talked
to you know what do you call them? Forensics? Okay, Now,

(40:56):
they wouldn't sign to be in the film, unfortunately, but
legally I couldn't put it in the film. But it
listen all I'm gonna I can't. I wish I could
say they're firm name, but I signed that. I would
one hundred percent. These are the same people, and it's funny.
It's funny how What it is for me, though, is
that in nineteen eighty four, eighty five, and I'm sorry,

(41:19):
I was eighty six. Sorry, it's been a while since
I even thought about the film. I've been working on
something else. But I think eighty eighty six is when
the Challenger happened. And you know, all yeah is give
them a haircut, a makeover, moving four states over, They're okay,
it's not Michael Jordan, it's not Michael Jackson. They're gonna

(41:40):
be okay. These astronauts, they can live somewhere else. Give
them a haircut. They're fucking fine. Think about it. Logically,
it's that easy, guys. Okay, that's it. That's that should
be the end of it. But it's not. I mean,
they didn't know there's gonna be YouTube, there's gonna be
the Internet, there's gonna be Facebook. They didn't know any
of that. And neither of these astronauts. They're stupid. They're like,
oh yeah, let's h you know, let's pick on Dick Scoby,

(42:02):
Richard Scoby. You know, mister palsy face. He uh, you know,
he lived his life, man. I think he was just
in the winness protection in the beginning stages, and I
think he had no one bothered him. There was no Internet.
I think he lays the ugly dude. But I think,
you know, maybe the first year he laid low, and
second year, you know, went out there and did his thing.

(42:23):
Then he started a firm. He started a marketing firm. Okay,
they do branding called the Cows in Trees. Okay, Cows
in Trees. It's a brand marketing firm, repeat marketing firm. Okay.
So in twenty sixteen, with Flatter Earth was viral for
the first time. Uh, these videos were floating around. People

(42:46):
were finding these astronauts present day and Cowsantrees dot com,
which was Richard Scoby's firm. When you went to the website,
and I did this back then, so there's nothing fake
in my face.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Yes, the website's down, wonder why it's been down for
years now, But we all have screenshots, many different people,
different sources have recorded screenshots of this website. Plus there's
backlinks and Google images and you could see the business
existed and Dick Scobe was the owner. But when you
went to Cowsantrees dot com, it started off an animation

(43:21):
of a cow with a rocket on a rocket ship
making the smoke trail of the Challenger with that six
and then disappearing. Oh oh yeah, it's in the film.
And then it said, you know, welcome the Cows and
Trees Marketing. And I'm like, wait, what the fuck does
marketing have to do with space? So Richard Scoby's new firm,

(43:41):
Cows and Trees in Chicago, Illinois, their website had a
cow doing the Challenger six. Wow, Okay, coincidence? Sure do
they they look exactly the same? Coincidence? Sure, same name, coincidence, sure,
same age coincidence. Sure, no real backstory on this guy
for the Challenger mission. I mean he did one little

(44:02):
fake mission before that. So these are people that are
put in the system, probably Freemasons. The teacher, Christa mcculliff,
George Bush, George Bush senior, han selects her, says, hey,
we're gonna do a contest. You won, the brand new
teacher of a school, been there a year or two, Like, yeah, no,
you're we're going to pull you out of school for
the rest of your life and we're going to kill you.

Speaker 1 (44:23):
Right.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
No, No, These were all people that they trusted, really simple.
No one's in those rockets anyways, but for sure not
that one. They just send it up. Fifty eight seconds
later it explodes. In my film, I have footage of
Christa mcculliffe, the teacher, her dad, her father, outside of

(44:45):
the live event after the rocket exploded, so they're they're
already dead in the sky. Guys, it exploded. This is
when the smoke trail is making its way down and
everyone's supposed to be crying. By now her dad's fuck
and laughing his ass off because I don't think he
knew that CNN was filming him. These are actors. Guys,

(45:07):
this is a stage.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Shit.

Speaker 2 (45:09):
As people know about COVID and the pandemic and everything
the last three years. It's a stage. The world's a stage.
They were doing it. Then there's nothing new. One of
the sun. They're creating these crisis actors, staged events. And
the reason they did the Challenger is because, in my opinion,
no one really gave a fuck about NASA back then. Man,
after the failed Moon missions playing golf on the moon,

(45:29):
what are you guys doing? Half the world still wasn't
buying it. Then people think everybody bought it. No they didn't,
so it kind of failed, and they kind of just
like they fell by the wayside. And the seventies fucking
cared about NASA what they're doing, so they needed to
steal more of our tax money. So they came up
with an option. Let's fake something and fake deaths and

(45:49):
play those violin strings. Because now it's like, naw, we
have this collective conscious of oh, oh my god, NASA.
They all died, and that teacher, oh man, they propaganda,
I mean the propaganda on her for the last year,
and we America loved her like that. So everybody's like, yeah, dude,

(46:09):
how much more taxes do you need from us NASA?
Go ahead, we love you. And by the way, I
don't want to. I mean, you're pretend you're five years
old and this happened or ten, you're gonna want to
go to space? Is that your dream? Now? Think about it, man,
think about it. It's triple meanings for everything they do.
They don't just do things for one reason. There's multiple reasons.

(46:31):
That was trauma for every child. Every child that said
I want to go to space. I know there's not
too many, hopefully not nowadays too. But back then it's
like I want to go to space. I want to
be an astronaut, I want to be a freemason apparently,
but no, I want to go to space. Oh fuck that,
Oh fuck that. I'm never never mind, you know. And
and it worked because when's the last time someone, even

(46:53):
they pretended a human being went to space. Don't say
Richard Branson is an alien. I'm talking about a human being,
a teacher, a random teacher at a school like no, man, no,
So they bury that, you know, man made space flights
along with the trauma based mind control. Everybody is in Kumbai,
yat together the country. These are heroes, fallen heroes, Let's

(47:15):
celebrate them, blah blah blah, fuck them all, they all
deserve to die.

Speaker 1 (47:21):
Well, let's get into one of the latest operations to
not only perpetuate a narrative of space, but extraterrestrials and
the possibility that we could be having extraterrestrial encounters in
the future. They could invade as they may be a threat.

(47:42):
There is a lot of disinformation coming from many angles
in here, but the mainstream media is now one of
our main sources for news on UFOs and extraterrestrials. So
this alone is enough reason for us to know that
this is some sort of psychological operation going on. What

(48:04):
do you think is going on behind this?

Speaker 2 (48:05):
Well, I think they're going to try to roll out
and this is how I ended level with me, but
this is I think they're going to try to roll
out this Blue Beam shit, which initially was called Operation Skybeam.
So for those research journalists buffs listening Operation Skybeam. I
know it's been you know, mainstream as Bluebeam now but

(48:27):
a Project Bluebeam. But either way, I think they'll attempt it.
I think they already kind of are there. They're putting
in here putting it there, seeing their reaction, seeing if
people TikTok it and say it's fake, and they really
don't know. I think that in terms of UFOs, I
don't know much about them, man. I try to say,
I try to have an open mind. You know, part

(48:48):
of me goes all that's fake, but then there's part
of me that goes, you know, our ancient spoke about
these crafts, and a lot of the ancients said they
came from under the ocean, and even in the Book
of Iron Republic they're talking about them over there. So
maybe in the outer lands it's technology out there. I
don't know. Maybe there's technology over there that it's just

(49:08):
we look at it as mainstream propaganda, as some gray
guy from far away driving something to blow everybody up
and they're not human. But in reality, it's one hundred
percent human beings creating them and designing them in my opinion,
and who knows, I don't know. Again, it's it's the unknown.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
You look at Admiral Bert's story, there were advanced humanoids
in your lands that.

Speaker 2 (49:31):
He here with beings exactly human beings that had advanced technology,
advanced minds, advanced sources above who knows. I don't know.
We can't go there, man. So here's the thing there,
there has to be UFOs crafts, right, there's no way
the multi hundreds of millions of people, normal people, normal

(49:51):
people in my opinion, maybe brainwashed. But they saw some,
they saw some. They claimed that they saw the same.
Like my buddy Austin wits it okay, once it gets it.
One of the scientists in the in level with me. Okay.
He does science experiments that'll blow your mind. He's an
electrostatics genius. But he he has told me he has

(50:12):
seen them six or seven times growing up. He's not lying.
Why would he lie. He's a flat earther he and
I trust him. He's a very smart man and one
of the most intelligent men I've ever met. And he said,
I've seen them, man, I don't know what that doesn't mean.
He goes, for sure, they didn't come from above, Like
that's proven. There's nothing can get up there, nothing get
below us past seven point five miles. But could they

(50:35):
come from the outer lands? Is this technology they have?
Is this technology that we stole from them and reverse
engineered and now we have it, so we have I
think that America has some you know, design crafts working
off of electrostatics. If you don't know what that is,
please research it. Because that there is no gravity, everything's electric,
everything's electrostatics. They can manipulate things with his electrostatic charge. Okay,

(50:59):
which is what Tessa want to talk about. They hid
that shit, our lost civilization of the past that people
call Tartaria. They were all about this technology too. So
the electrostatic force itself. That's why I can move on
a diamond. It's electrostatics. They have these machines that can
alter the electrostatic force of our nature, of our realm.

(51:20):
And if they reverse engineered them or just designed them.
I have blueprints in the film showing you the blueprints
that governments around the world have designed these crafts based
on electrostatics. So they're here, they're real. The disclosures. Now
it's just what are they doing with them? Are they
just going to scare us the rest of our lives

(51:41):
for them, or just fly them around for fun, or
just go to the outer lands and visit their friends.
I don't know what they're doing with them. I do
know that they have hologram technology that will make a
look as real as possible. They already have that, they've
already utilized those, and they also have man made crafts.
So the combination of those two that's scary.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
Man.

Speaker 2 (52:01):
And I'm not fear mongering, but it's fucked up that
they could do that tomorrow, and I think the COVID
influenced running to the store to buy a face mass
type of people are going to fall for it. They
have no idea how easy it would be to beam
in every metropolitan area in the world, every major city

(52:21):
in the world with their five G technology. Wonder why
there's so much five G It'll be hand in hand
utilized five G beaming technology holograms that look like UFOs
across the world, and then having a few real ones
that they designed in the air during that blowing shit
up for real below with direct energy weapons or whatever

(52:43):
they want to do. I pray it doesn't come to that.
The point I'm trying to make is they could possibly
do that, and I'm trying to make people aware of that.
You know, it's not about fear minering, it's about you
need to be aware. At least you need to be
aware that they can do that.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Guys, right on yeah, And I think that there's also
free energy implications involved. If we were to ever as
the general public, discover what's behind anti gravity, electrogravitys things
of this nature, that we wouldn't have a need to
rely on the government. Any type of military industrial technology

(53:21):
that they're keeping from us. We would have access to
this and we wouldn't be necessary to rely on right.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Yeah, Well, here's the thing, man, we don't need a government.
We never have, we never will. The government is here
put in place to rule over us and to control us,
and to break up the family, to influence us, to
mentally get in our heads and endotrinate us. It's all
a part of the system. I don't know who runs
the system, but this system needs to stop. It needs

(53:50):
to be reset. We need a new world, not a
new world order. We need a new world. And the
way to get a new world, heaven on Earth, as
I would pray for, is to eradicate all evil and
dissolve it. And I think a big part of the
evil is NASA is the space agencies. Because once humanity

(54:11):
is on board with oh yeah, we're not in a
ball at all. They have been lying and stealing our
money for too long. Once NASA, SpaceX and all these agencies, ESA, RASA,
all of them, Once they all dissolve and the governments
fold and universities fold, our new world can start. The
people can control this now. And once we keep teaching
and having teachings about our past and our history, our

(54:34):
real history, and the ancients and the giants, and the
structures and the technology and things that we can, let's
go make water cars again. But there's no form of
getting suicided because we already eradicated all of them. So
there's steps that humanity can and will take. And I
think that the war that we're in right now is
already being won by us, and we will continue to

(54:56):
win this war. And we will talk about this in
the future in a different light, because I think when
you walk outside in the next ten years, it's not
going to look the same, but I think it's gonna
look better. That's just me.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Now.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
There always has to be a next agenda, a next
big thing that we have to be afraid of that's
going to be happening. And it looks like they have
a couple of different possibilities for this. Like you said,
we could have the big alien invasion. I do think
they spent too much time and energy and money into
the whole COVID and booster and JAB scenario to let

(55:32):
that fall away. So it's possible. I think we could
either see that or the pandemic part two. What do
you think about that?

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Nah, pandemic A plandemic two point zero will not happen.
I don't even think they'll try it. I think they'll
pretend like they're gonna try it, but they're not gonna
try one. It's over, man, This plandemic shit's over. They
got what they wanted. I don't think they got enough arms,
but they got enough arms to know that they killed
a third of them. A third will die soon and
other third will never be able to reproduce again. So

(56:02):
when you do those numbers, you see the math that
you know the their depopulation agenda is still intact as
we speak, and they're never gonna be able to get
what they wanted. Eighty percent, ninety percent of the world
jabbed and fucked up. They they they gave up. We
won that war, whether it feels like we did or not,

(56:22):
we did. There's no vaccine passports, none of that's gonna happen.
It's over, will they attempt to do something again. No,
not not, not in a COVID nineteen stance. I don't
think so. I know, I know business owners in California
that are completely biden fied and masked and all that stuff.
Uh and and yeah round one, they they were all

(56:44):
about all that shit. And now you know, I'll walk
by and say, hey, man, if there's a pandemic tomorrow,
I always talk shit to all of them. It's like,
are you gonna cut? They literally they're like, never again.
And these people still wear mass you know, it's like
they're but they're like, we're never going through. I don't
care what the TV says. These are the people that
you know are not like us. So I'm like, wait,
they're like that. Multiple people I've acquaintances I've seen like,

(57:08):
We're never gonna fall for that shit again. I'm never
closing my business. I'm never doing that. I'm never doing this.
I'm never asking for jab cards even. And these are
jabbed people because they know they it took them a while,
but they realize, yeah, that was all fucked up, man,
fuck that. So I think that they know that they're
not gonna be able to do that. Exactly again, but
a lockdown that's different. A lockdown could come with alien threats, man,

(57:30):
and I wouldn't put it past them that they're gonna
start doing something with that.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
Unfortunately, Well, it doesn't seem like conventional warfare is going
to be a thing either. The majority of the people
aren't going for that. They're not being they're not being
scared into jumping into wars with other countries anymore. So
I know the next big step may be war with aliens.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
Well, I mean, as Ronald Reagan said multiple times, what
if we had a threat, an outside threat that we
all universally have to come together. And he even said
I put in the film something not verbatim, but something
along the lines of like we might not be able
to have that possibility, meaning they might not they might
not be able to come down, so we will do

(58:15):
it anyways, Like he's literally saying, if that's not a possibility,
we could still come together and do it. What are
you talking about, Well, yeah, this is what they're talking about.
So I think it was like a joke in terms
of like wherever he was speaking at the UN or whatever,
but he's serious in the sense of they don't have
to wait around. They know Warner von Braun, one of

(58:36):
his friends, this lady, this woman, spoke many times in
person about this stuff, and on his deathbed he admitted
to her that this whole thing was a scam, this
alien invasion, that it's coming and it's a scam and
it's all fake. And she's in the film too, and
she's spoken to Warner von Braun, the Nazi trader, you know,
the piece of shit that started running ass in the

(58:59):
beginning and all that, and she's she admitted that it's
it's all phony. Uh, And so did he knew that?
They know that NASA knows it, SpaceX knows it, but
the public doesn't know. The public still thinks that, you know,
maybe one day some creature from billions, trillions of miles
away is and to come here and do something. It's
twenty twenty three, it's never been done. So they have

(59:20):
their game plan ready to go. I think they're going
to execute. I do. I don't know if it's going
to work. All I can do is pray that humanity
tiktoks the shit out of it with a laughing emoji.
That's all I can do, because and I mean that,
and because that's literally the test results they're looking for.
Is the fear or is it getting ridiculed if their

(59:41):
tests are getting ridiculed. It's the same as when they
rolled out swine flu and they started saying you need
to wear a mask starting tomorrow. No one did it
because they didn't have enough marketing tools. It didn't work.
People don't even remember that. That's how much it didn't
work with Obama to wear a mask and do all
that shit. They try this which swine flew, the COVID shit,

(01:00:02):
vaccines are coming, none of it. Everybody just nah, No
one cared, and it didn't work. So they had a
better strategy for round two, which was the plandemic that
we know of. So maybe round one, hopefully humanity laughs
at it, and hopefully there is no round two because
World War three will be ended by then. I don't know, man,
We'll see.

Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
We're in interesting times for sure. What's next in the
pipeline for you, Sean.

Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
I'm working on a project right now. It's going to
be called Old World Order. It'll be OWOFILM dot com.
Once it's up and running. It's going to be on
our on our previous civilization before us, Man, I'm sick
of the lies of people on horse and buggy in
the nineteen early nineteen hundred's designed and built structures built

(01:00:46):
for giants, and giant stairs and giant doors and free
energy and technology all over the place were that wasn't
made by them, that was all free to them. They stuck.
So what happened? Who was here before us? Who was
just here? Because the history books are lying, obviously, so
the timeline does not match man that some of these structures,

(01:01:06):
you know, the structures I'm talking about, right, some people
call it tartaria. But some of these ancient structures were
claimed to be like So say you see a photo
of a structure from nineteen twenty, they took it down
two years later. So the story is they were built
in nineteen twenty and taken down in nineteen twenty two.
What by that same guy on the horse, the little

(01:01:29):
tiny centimeter of a human in the photo on the ground,
this giant building and that like they built it. No, no, no, no, all,
that's a lie. So I'm getting together with the experts
in their field, in this field. You know, I'll throw
a few names out there, doctor Narcolongo and Martin Leitke,
Flight of the British. Even Max Egan is going to

(01:01:50):
be jumping in this one. There. I'm gonna be getting
some the people that know this is their life, you know,
this is their career, this is their forte this is
their expertise, all ten twenty years of knowledge. Authors, people
that have written books, published successful books on these topics.
I'm going to be traveling a lot in this one.
A lot of boots on the ground, a lot of
drones in the sky hitting these buildings. Wanted to go

(01:02:13):
see what's on top of them, what's around them. We
can't go up there, right, I mean, we're not allowed
up there, so send some drones. So I want to
really put together a film with just like when Level
came out the original in twenty twenty one. I did
that because everyone's like, hey, we heard about this flighter stuff.
What can we watch. I'm like, we don't really have
a documentary or a film, you know, So I want
to be someone to do that. I made three of them.

(01:02:35):
This will be my first on our lost history. It's
called Old World Order.

Speaker 1 (01:02:39):
Right on awesome. We'll be looking for that. Sean, Thank you,
and we'll do this again for sure. Before you head
out let the audience know where they can find all
your contents.

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
Everything I ever do and we'll do is on Hitler
Productions dot Com. Hi double B E L E R.

Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Rock On. All right, Sean, we'll do it again soon
and until next time. Everyone. Today, I'm going to welcome
back to the show Scott Pace. He is from Louisiana
working in Baton Rouge. He is an avid deer hunter
and bigfoot and dog man researcher. Scott, welcome back. How
you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
I'm doing great man. Thanks for having me back again, Brie.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
It was great and I had a great time out
in your area in the Louisiana wilderness this past weekend
listening to your amazing encounters and exploring some of that area.
And since we since the last time we spoke, you've
had tons of incredible experiences that you've told us about.
I can't wait to get to some of those tonight. Actually,

(01:03:39):
and these experiences have even evolved into different types of
encounters with different types of beings like extraterrestrials, little people, mantids,
and much more. So. It is very incredible. I can't
wait to get into it. But first remind the audience
about how this all started for you, and then we'll
get into some newer experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:04:00):
So in twenty nineteen, I had an experience was up
in north central Louisiana. I was up there on a
hunter least deer hunting, and I had a forest person
or a sasquatch walk up on me and also a
dog man, And so when I seen him, I turned
and looked at him and took a picture of him

(01:04:21):
with my cell phone. And then after I picked up
my rifle and was looking through the skupe because it
really couldn't tell too good what it was. And then
once I did that, the dog man actually started mind
speaking to me. And that's when all this stuff started.
And when I looked at the sasquatch or the forest person,
I really think something transferred to me. I don't know

(01:04:44):
how to explain it. I can't explain it, but I
all know something transferred to me. And since then I've
been able to mine speak and also had a lot
of vegetations and stuff, and so it's been pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
And during this first encounter, it was, hm, it was
terrifying at first because the dog man said something threatening
to you in mind speak, right, Yes.

Speaker 3 (01:05:08):
I actually when I pointed the rifle, told me and
told me to put the gun down. Here's gonna come
over there and tear the building up and kill me.
And so I really, I really know what to do.
I didn't know how to react to it and know
exactly what to do. I just was in shock. And
then the bigfoot the dog man began to converse together
and talk to each other, and then something else in
an audible voice mine spoke to me and told me

(01:05:30):
to leave. And so as soon as they told me
to leave, I opened up the door and got out
of there, you know, just left out, and they actually
paralleled me and followed me out to a lay down
area where we have our vehicles out and everything, and
actually had a golf car out there, my cousin's full well.

(01:05:50):
We took off and left out there, and my cousin
that knight had pulled his fold a little bit further in,
so I heard him coming around, but I had to
walk out. When I walked out, there were four of
them followed me out, so I think it was too
Sasquatch and at least two dog men, maybe more, but
that was a group of and they they never tried
to come out of the woods, but that when I

(01:06:10):
was getting into my golf card happened to be facing
the woods, and when it does, I could see all
the trees and everything moving. I could see all the
bushes moving. And I just told them, I said, look,
don't come out, because if you do, I'm gonna start shooting.
I said, I don't want to hurt you, and I
don't want to get hurt. So, you know, I just
turned the golf crall around and hotel out of there,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:06:27):
And to remind the audience a little bit about the
Louisiana legend of the rue Garu, which is the dog man.
Could you explain a little bit about the history for
those that may not be familiar.

Speaker 3 (01:06:41):
Yeah, it's it's actually a legend that's here in Louisiana,
and supposedly they came over here from Europe or France
or something, and I think they actually been here a
long time. But the legend is is that or people
that are Catholic and stuff like that, they would tell
that children if you were bad, then the rugaroo would

(01:07:04):
come and get you at night, you know, and so
that one way they kept them, you know, try to
keep them straight and stuff like that you know, but yeah,
it's it's been known through French folklore here in South
Louisiana the ruga root, which is actually aware we'll for
a dog man, you know, and there's actually two different

(01:07:24):
types there. One looks like a dog, a big tall
person about seven foot tall, with a dog's head a
human's body basically, and then the other one is just
a big huge looks like a half sasquatch and a
half dog person with a dog's head on a big,
huge wolf's head on it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:43):
Now, like you were saying, your experiences have changed and
evolved over time, could you talk a little bit about
how the the the experiences in the phenomenon has changed
over the past few months and years for.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
You, Well, in twenty nineteen, I really know what, wasn't
a researcher at all, man. I watched YouTube and stuff
like that. You're doing shows like finding big Foot and
stuff like that, and you know, I hadn't. I heard
some things in the woods and seeing things, But I
guess in twenty seventeen it really was a kicker for
me when I seen a print. I seen a footprint

(01:08:21):
that was actually in the in the pine straw, and
it was really deep. So I tried to step on
the pine straw and it was only one footprint too,
wasn't more than one, it was just one. And that
kind of got me in a direction. I started buying
books and stuff like that and doing some research. And
then once I bought the books and started reading and
stuff like that, they got more interested in. And actually

(01:08:44):
two books that I actually bought was by a guy
bound by the name of Jack laps Ritis name is
Kawani is an Indian name is Kawani, And so I
bought his two books and I started reading them, and
then from there he said he would talk to him
and stuff like that. So even though I didn't see
anything or or I could hear things in the woods
and things would move around me, and sat times I

(01:09:06):
thought there were deer moving in the woods, because sometime
there'd be three sides around me. I hear moving stuff
there actually be surrounding me. I thought it was deer.
So I was getting ready every time with my rifle,
you know, And that's kind of like how it started
for me until twenty nineteen when they actually came right
up to me. So, you know, at times I would
go out there and bring my biblesff like that, read
the little pocket Bible and stuff, and it'd be a

(01:09:27):
time for me to reflect at the end of the year,
kind of start off the new year and stuff like that.
So it started kind of started off like that. So
as far as me interacting with them, I never interacted
with them before other than other than you know that
time there, I would I would kind of do some things,
like you know, just kind of like say some hey,
I'm coming into the woods or something like that, you know,
just kind of test the waters and stuff like that.

(01:09:49):
But nothing that happened at all until that, you know,
that time when they come right up to me. So
it was about thirty forty yards when they came up
to me.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Now, did these these bigfoot creatures seemed to have family units?
Do they seem to have any structure in their communities?

Speaker 3 (01:10:09):
Yes, they all have family units. The way I understand
it is the dog man actually or kind of like
the pets, you know, but it's a supernatural thing, you know.
I mean, the forest people are actually of people. And
I don't believe they're from Earth, I really don't. I don't.
I think they've been here a long time from other
stories that I've heard they were actually brought here from

(01:10:31):
other planet, another planet, and from the story that I
got was that their planet, uh, the Sun was actually
dying for the planet, so they had to leave and
go somewhere, and so they were actually brought here from
the planet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:46):
And they they would tell you these things. They would
tell you these things through the communication through the mind
speed communication.

Speaker 3 (01:10:53):
Well some of it, yes, And the other part was
I read some of this stuff in the book. And
then so I'd asked questions and these books that I
got about that when I go, you know, in that
area and stuff like that, and sometimes I'll just be
here at home and I would ask and they would
answer me and talk to me mm hmm. So they
give me feedback, you know, and hard to times. It
was hard for me to comprehend what was going on,

(01:11:15):
and said, this is this is way too much. And
so I said, I can't comprehend all the stuff that's
downloaded to me, you know, And they would say, well,
it's it's not what you believe, it's what you're willing
to accept. They say, can you just accept these things?
You know? And I'm like, well, yeah, I mean I
can accept. They say, well, do you know everything about
a computer or a cell phone, how it works. I said, no,
I don't know everything about it. They said, well, you

(01:11:37):
just accept when you press a button, it's going to
turn on. They say, well, this is the same way.
They said, just accept there's some things you don't need
to know.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
And we talked a little bit about this the other day.
But there are different races and different species and different
types of bigfoots. And you even mentioned the different types
of dogmen right well.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
As far as dog man, I think there's a couple
of different types, a few different types that I know of,
and that is what I'm going by what I've seen.
What I know. There's kind of there's one but a
wolf'snows it goes real far out. The head's about two
foot long. The other ones have a pug type nose
where their faces pushed in a little bit. Then you
have some of them a really really huge big you know,

(01:12:19):
I mean, they're just huge and grotesque looking. And those
are the actually what they call the werewolves.

Speaker 1 (01:12:25):
And what about the bigfoots. You were telling us that
they vary in size pretty greatly. Some can be little
people and some can be up to what were you
seeing like twelve fourteen feet tall or larger all.

Speaker 3 (01:12:39):
Other than that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:12:40):
Wow. So getting into this and meeting people online. After
all this happened, I began to reach out to people
and anybody would talk to me, and I begin to
find out real quick who was telling the truth and
who wasn't telling the truth because of what I've seen
and what I experienced. You know, some people blow smoking.
Some people just want to sell books and stuff like that,
and a lot of times I've seen where people would

(01:13:00):
take other people's information and try to make a living
off of it, you know. And so I thought that
was pretty incredible that you don't have an experience, but
yet you want to write books and stuff about that
kind of stuff. I thought that was pretty interesting. But yes,
they come in many different sizes and different various sizes.
Some of them are really small. Some of them look

(01:13:21):
like ewoks. I've got pictures of that. I've actually seen
the real little ones before. And the amazing thing is
they're able to cloak. They ab be going visible, so
you see them, it just looks like a little a
little person with long hair, black hair on it, or
dark hair, say brown hair or something like that. And
then they're there, they are gone, and so then you

(01:13:42):
have all the ones so extream. I mean they could
be twenty feet tall, really really really big and strong.
I mean they're huge. The last big one that I
seen it was probably fifteen sixteen feet tall and was huge.
It was as big as a one ton truck on
his bumper, that's how big it was. And I was
in Macy, Nebraska and actually had got a picture of

(01:14:04):
that one. It was far off, but I've seen it
and I couldn't I was it was to me. To
see it in the daytime was amazing. But the next
thing was to see it, you know, walking compared to
the other one. The other was about six foot tall.
Then this one. These came up to its waist, so
you're looking at twelve or fourteen or fifteen feet tall
once you put the mask to it, you know, once

(01:14:25):
you get past the waist and start getting to the
chest cavity and stuff like that, and the head and
the arms and everything. And yeah, they're they're huge. I
mean they're just size of them and just humongous. Now.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
You were telling us while we were there about a
trip to North Dakota, and by the way, you also
mentioned pictures. We will have those pictures we're going to
show you in our documentary. We're saving those for then,
and there are incredible We're gonna have all kinds of
good stuff to show you in there. But you were
also telling us about a trip to was it North Dakota, Nebraska. Yes,

(01:15:00):
I'd love to hear more about that in some of
the encounters you had there.

Speaker 3 (01:15:05):
Okay, so I'll go into that. So I've reached out
to people. If this first happened to say in the
year two thousand and twenty, and so it was right
after my encounter, I started reaching out to different people.
And one of the guys that I reached out to
was really cordial to me and was talking to me
about it, really explained a lot of stuff to me.

(01:15:25):
Was an American Indian by the name of Barry Webster,
and he has a sight on Facebook that's called res squatching,
And so I started talking to him and he and
I made friends and over the past couple of years,
you know, we've talked a lot. So I passed, I'd
say three years, we've talked a good bitch, you know.

(01:15:48):
And so he kept inviting me to come up and
he said, you need to see these things, and you
need to come over and see this. And I'm thinking
to myself, and see you walk right upon them. He said,
oh yeah, so they come right upon you and stuff
like that. And he said, we have eye shine. I'd
never seen an eye shine before, know what I was.
I never even heard of that before, and I hear
people talking about it, and then I were catching He
does live shows on his feed sometimes on the weekends

(01:16:10):
and during the week and stuff, you know, and you
know how these live shows where he'll go in there
and get his uh set his team set up, and
they'll go out and they actually ride around the truck
to get to a spot in our vehicle whatever, and
they'll go out there and start, you know, videling these things.
And sometimes you can you can get pretty close to him.
So anyways, I'm set a time with him in last October,

(01:16:31):
and the beginning of October I was able to go,
so I took vacation and went over there. So we
got there. We got the first day, we kind of
got to know each other, sit and talk and stuff
like that. Rode around and he showed me, you know,
the reservation and stuff like that. It's in Macy, Nebraska,
right next to the Missouri River, so that night was
pretty interesting. They had we had a little camper we

(01:16:53):
stayed in that night, and I remember the wind, which
is hallum, and it was cold. It was in the
low thirties. So he's still out for a minute. And
when he went outside and came back to the door,
he opened up the door. So Scotty, come out here
and shay you something. So I stepped out and he said,
you ever seen an eyes shine before? And as soon
as I stepped out the camper, I looked out there
in about ten foot off the ground, there was a

(01:17:15):
dark figure the way you see these things at night,
you know, these these forest people, these creatures at night.
It's just a black shadow. That's what you're going to see.
You're not gonna see hair or anything like that. You're
just gonna see a dark shadow, is what you're gonna see.
And then I began to see the eyes, and the
eyes looked like kaleidoscopes. Ever it was turning like this,
you know, and like tubes with a kaladoscope, just like

(01:17:37):
klada scope. The eyes were like white, really bright white.

Speaker 1 (01:17:43):
And now is this something different than a sasquatch or
is it the same type of thing.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
It's a sasquatch. This is what I'm decribing a sasquatch now, yeah,
but this is what I seen when I was there.
When I got there, I mean, I flew up there
and you know, out of New Orleans and went up
to Oma Hall and then we went up there and
I was able to stay in the reservation. It's about
about an hour and a half from hom Hall, that's
where it's at. So anyways, I got there and and

(01:18:10):
when we stepped out, I looked at it and I
seen it so uh. Me having a Christian background, which
I am a Christian stuff like that. Uh, they told
me they mind spoke to me, said seeing just say sing.
So I began to sing to them and sing a
hymn to them. But when I sing to them, all
of a sudden, these two little figures began to rise
up like this, you know, the same thing, the eyes
turning like that, the same thing. So I sing to

(01:18:33):
them and just looked at him. So and it was
he said we, you know, introduce yourself to him and everything.
So I was talking to him first, and I said, look,
my name is Scott Hey something from Louisiana came a
long ways, you know, I said, I live by the
gol from Mexico, way down, you know, Louisiana. But I said,
I'm here to learn from you. I don't want any
knowledge that you want to give me, so I'm willing
to learn from you know. I just want peace while

(01:18:53):
i'm here. I'm not here to hurt you, and I
don't want you to hurt me. And after that have
sing to him, and and all of sudden two little
figures rose up after that, and so the rest of
the night was pretty amazing though. You know, he we
went back and he said cold, let's go back again.
So I'm like, okay, So I kept mind speaking to
him the whole time. I said, come to the window,
let me take your picture. They never would do it,

(01:19:13):
never would do it. But it was amazing because even
though the wind was blowing, I could feel the camper
doing this. It would rock and it would do it.
I would count it was four to five times every time,
one two, three, four five, and they would stop, Wow,
would again one two three four, And I was like,

(01:19:35):
you feel the whole camper just doing that, you know,
And it wasn't hard they didn't come and beat on
and try to scare us or anything that. So I
think your approach, it's all in your approach and how
you approach them. If you go there, you know, beating
on trees and hollering at them, hooping and doing stuff
like that, what's kind of mocking them, you know, I mean,
this is who they are and how they live. So

(01:19:57):
if you go in there and you start mocking them,
you're gonna you may have some batter responses, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:20:01):
Right, you also had to go ahead and finish. I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:20:05):
Okay, So I've got a bunch of more experiences I'll
tell you about. So the next so the next day,
you know, a group of people came in there, actually
the rest of their group came in and so we
left and went that night and we went out two vehicles.
One was a truck and that was a jeep. And
so we went to the first place we went to
was this place. And this is where this one he

(01:20:26):
calls Stevie Wonder. It's because he does like this. It
looks at him, does his head like this like this.
So that's what he does. He just does like this,
looks at it. And anyways, it's it's kind of I
don't know, that's just the way they are, what they
act like or what. I don't I don't know. But anyways,

(01:20:46):
we went to this one spot and was going up
this heel like this. It was on an angle like this,
and everything o bluff that went up, I mean way up.
And so we got there, we parked and got out,
and as soon as we started going down the road,
they said, we let's see if they first or pull up.
They said, let's see if they here, and I'll said,
I've seen it. I said, there's eye shine, his eye
shine right up the heel up there. So anyways, we stopped,

(01:21:07):
we pulled in, so park the cars and stuff, and
we got out and you can see way up there.
Some of the eyes were white, some were blue, some
were orange, and some I think I counted one or
two that were red. So each one of the eye
shines are basically compared to a mood. So white would

(01:21:30):
be peaceful, blue would be peaceful, orange would be on alert,
and the red would be like I'm mad. You see
what I'm saying. So that's something you got to pay
attention to if you ever see that, you know, so
you see white and blue. You pretty much should see
time to get turn around. Leave. Don't say that. But anyways,

(01:21:53):
we stayed there. We got to the Jerrold and he
began to walk up to him. Barry did barr Webs
begin to walk up to him, him and Derek and
begin to talk to him where they start talking to
a native language, you know, and once they start talking
to them, he said, y'all walk up. And we just
kind of stayed back a little bit. And so we
walked up there and he said, just introduce yourself. So
I started introducing myself and talking to him. Said, look,
we come a long ways. We just want to talk
to you. Would you please come and talk to us,

(01:22:15):
you know, interact with us. And I said, I'll mind
speak to you if you want. They never wouldn't mind
speak to me. But they started coming down and came
very very close to us. They were you can see
how big they were. Because the amazing thing is when
they moved, they don't walk like people. They just cliud, wow,
you come down, they glide like this really really incredible.

(01:22:38):
And I mean they came right in front of us.
When I say right in front of us, they were
tall and for me it was like I was looking
up like this, you know, when I was looking at them,
and they were right across a little ravine that was there,
like a ditch and everything, but they wanted the heel
right there. And I couldn't get over how big they were.
And it's like looking up like this, like if you
were looking at the edge of a peak of the
house and you're looking up. That's them. Okay, that's how

(01:23:01):
big they are. And I couldn't get over that, you know.
And so eventually all the eyes turned white, and they
were all over the place, and they kind of blended
in and something came to the edge of the road.
I thought one was going to walk down the road,
but it never did, but it was on the edge
of the road right there. And so they said, okay,
we've seen this and everything. We're getting ready to leave.
And then here's something that happened. I noticed one it

(01:23:21):
kept kind of looking like this, kept looking over at
me like this, and it was doing like this and
kept looking at me. So I just locked eyes with
it and I said, look, i'll talk to if you
want to talk to me, you know, And I said,
just just look at me and I'll talk to you.
The next thing was amazing. What happened was there was
a prism that went from his eyes to my eyes
and kept going back and forth. Okay, so the prism

(01:23:44):
was going back and forth like this to me, it
locked eyes with me. And when it did is I
think it was trying to either read my life or
something like that. You know, it was trying to get
in tune with me or something. So anyways, we left
there and trying to think another place we went to
after that.

Speaker 1 (01:24:03):
Now, while you're thinking about that, I want to ask
you the the yes, the incredible abilities these things seem
to have, Like you said, they were gliding down the mountain,
they seem to have cloaking abilities, they seem to have
blending abilities, ability to just disappear in front of your eyes.
Do you understanding how are they capable of doing this?

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
I have no idea. I don't know how they do that.
I can't answer that. I'm not a scientist by no means.
You know, there are some people that try to explain
it with the hair, how they can do something with
their hair and do it and make it do that.
My thing is how can they go through walls and
stuff like that? You know, if you can do all that,
and it's one thing to have those abilities to be
able to see at night in our eyes like a

(01:24:45):
tube like a cloud of scope, you know, you're looking
through a Claudus looks like that. I think they're way way,
way more for advanced than what we know, you know.
I mean, we've had them come into our house before
and all the doors are locked, all the windows locked, Okay,
so they can just come right in, so you know. Yeah,
But anyways, I'm trying to think, uh, if we went

(01:25:07):
anywhere else that night, We went to a couple of
places but really didn't have a lot of activity and
stuff like that. So that was about that. And then
the the next the next night we were there, went
to the same place again, and uh, when we first
got there, it wasn't too much and it was kind
of a different nights, you know, and we've seen a

(01:25:29):
few of the eyes stuff like that. We try to
talk to but they really wouldn't come out. It's like
they weren't interested in stuff, you know. So anyways, they
stayed where they were and we got to see a
shine again and so that one then itself is pretty
incredible for them just to do that was was really wild,
you know, and so, uh, I'm trying to think exactly

(01:25:50):
what next. Oh, we went to this one spot. It
was it was a bottom, went down in this bottom
that was there, and uh, I actually got chased by
something that night. And so we were there in that bottom.
We both got out and he began to talk to
him and stuff like that. He said, uh, man, I
got a weird feeling about this place, you know, And
he said, we think it's haunted or something like that.
So you think it's hornted? I said, what in the

(01:26:12):
what are we doing here?

Speaker 1 (01:26:13):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:26:13):
You know, and all of a sudden, out of this bottom,
this dark black figure shoots up out of there starts
coming toward us. We ran back toward the truck and
got in the truck, close the doors, and so then
we seen it go back down again. So we took
off and got out of that place. And so the
next day we were there, we kind of did a

(01:26:33):
little video thing and everything, and that their team did
a speech and stuff like that, and I did some
things on what we saw and stuff like that. So
everybody got a chance to talk. And that evening we
had to go out that night again stay out about
two or three in the morning. So a couple of
guys over there, they want to take a nap. I
was so fired up, so energized by everything, I didn't sleep.

(01:26:54):
I couldn't sleep. So Derek, his brother, asked me, said
and me and this other guy said you want to
go take a rise. Yes, let's go take a ride.
And said, come on, let's go. So went around and
where we sat at this campground, right around the corner
from there, there's a bison pen and that's where I
got to see him at in the daytime. So he
goes there and he starts talking to him, starts interacting

(01:27:14):
with him, and it says, hey, see tongue, come out,
we want to talk to you. So and then he
starts speaking his name language, you know, And all of
a sudden, this one comes out. And there was just this pole,
this big, old, tall white pole that was there for
the you know, for bison, you know, for the corner posts,
and everything is what it was, and this this one
is just sitting there and he's dancing. It's going back

(01:27:35):
and forth. So he grab he grab it with his
left hand and go right. He grab his right hand
and go left. He just kept on doing this back
and forth and forth. And this is tall, man. This
pole is like six foot tall. This thing is as
tall a taller okay, yeah, And all of a sudden,
trees next to it, way up in the trees. Four
more were there, and then all of a sudden one

(01:27:56):
starts walking in between the trees and goes across. Now
that that young one came up to the large one's waist, okay,
and this thing is way tall than that. So that
can see if you doubled, that's twelve to fifteen feet tall.
That's how tall the thing was. And I couldn't tell
it was too far away if it was either a

(01:28:16):
male or female, or couldn't tell, you know, by looking
at it. But it was just huge, I mean just
and I was just blowing away. The other guy that
was with us, he was he was like, what, I
can't believe this, man, I can't believe this. And so
he had a pair of binocs up, grabbed a pair
of binoculars, and I think guy was looking at that.
I looked at him. You could see him clear. I mean,
even they're they're very very black, very dark long hair

(01:28:38):
on them, you know. And that big one was just
like this is this is something you A lot of
people never ever get to see. Yeah we got we
got to see it. You know, it was a chance
of a lifetime, you know, so I thought, yeah, pretty
blessed about that.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Absolutely, Man, that's incredible. Was this the same experience where
you said one of them tried to reach in and
take your cell phone.

Speaker 3 (01:29:02):
I haven't got to that yet. Okay, that's the next night.
Give me you got you we're still going o case here,
here's the next night. Okay, So I'll go into it
the next night. So we you know, wead dinner and
all the stuff like that, and I'll go into just
societies and stuff. So the next night, uh, we went
to a couple of different places and rode around stuff
like that. Nothing, a lot of nothing happened. We heard

(01:29:24):
things running through the woods and stuff like that, but
that's that could be anything. You know. Didn't see any
eye shine or everything. So we go to this place it's
called hard Knocks. Okay, m So this happened the first
night too. So the first I'll give it. I'll give
you that at Hard Knocks is where this happens. You
have to go way down in this bottom way down,
way down, way down this bottom, and we turned around

(01:29:44):
and was head back towards Hopping. Okay, well we got
down in this bottom. It's really cold that night. Man,
it's like in the thirties again. And the winds howlings
blowing and everything, so we're freezing. So the truck was
in front of us and we were in a jeep.
It's a guy brought his jeep out there and everything,
so we were his cheap And anyways, we got out
there and Barry was in the front with the with

(01:30:06):
the other guys and he was talking to him. He
was trying to stay warm. He didn't got out of
the truck. To me, I don't think he got out
of the truck at all. But we got out of
the truck in the back. You know, it was four
of us that got out. Was me, Derek, and two
of the guys you know was there. And so the
guy that was driving, I got next to the bump
on the on the hood and I was just kind
of holding the hood like this, you know, stay warm
from the radiator and stuff like that, and all said,

(01:30:27):
we hear something go like that. I turned around and looked,
I said, does something did a limb, just follow a
tree or something, just jump out of the tree. And Derek,
his brother, was sitting there playing with his phone. He says,
died eleven. He said, one just jumped out of the tree
behind y'all and the other guy he said, he said, yeah,

(01:30:47):
it brushed up against me. I said, you gotta be kidding.
He said, no, I was leaned over like this on
the hood, and that one jumped out of the tree,
rubbed up against him and ran down the hill.

Speaker 1 (01:30:58):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:30:59):
You know, I think this is pretty ironic. I like
to talk that for a second. You know, it's how
many times have we seen young ones like that run
in front of cars? Some have actually been hit before,
you know, But you think about that. I think I
think it's a truth of Dare type thing that they do.
You know. M interesting, yes, And I think that's something

(01:31:20):
that they pulled and they do stuff like this. They'll
take off and go. But anyways, that that was on
the actually on the second night I was there, that
happened when we seen all the eyes shine and everything together.
So after that, that was it. We all went in.
It was probably about three thirty in the morning and
everybody was tired. So the last night I was there.
We went back to the place where Stevie wonder where

(01:31:41):
where his head was doing like this and all that,
and we went there. Not a lot of action happened.
And we went down to the bottom to this other place,
and we got chased off by something, and then we
left there. We went to the other place, which is
called hard knocks down in this this uh that bottom

(01:32:03):
down down there, but trying to think exactly, we went
down to and then at bottom this is where it
got really creepy though, And so Bear began to say
say that. We said, there's not a lot of activity.
And I started looking around and said there was a

(01:32:24):
few eyes, you know, you can see eyes shine and
stuff like that. And also there was nothing. There was
no noise. There was no crickets, there was no birds.
I mean there wouldn't a night it's gonna be anything anyway.
But you couldn't hear anything. I mean nothing, No big
boot were there. Nothing in the sasquatch. Nothing was there. Also,
we see this magentle light coming down like this on

(01:32:44):
the right hand side of the right quarter panel. Off ways. Okay,
this magentle lightness comes down like this. It's the best
way I can describe it. It was a light light
light I'm sorry, it was a light light purple or
dark heat of color, magenta color comes down and all
of a sudden, this all I can describe it as

(01:33:05):
a light person, a light being. This person just comes
out of it, starts walking. How that walks out of
that beam, walks in front of the truck, never stops,
just keeps on walking like it's nothing. They kind of
hesitated for a second, that went on down the hill.

Speaker 1 (01:33:23):
Wow, did de you materialize or just keep just keep
walking out of your view?

Speaker 3 (01:33:28):
Just kept walking out of view and just kept walking.
And what was really interesting was Barry said, the aliens
are here. I said, do what, Yeah, the aliens are here.
And also this magenta light comes in. Now how do
they know that aliens are there? I don't know, just
but that idea was me, him and a guy by

(01:33:49):
by the name of Terry and his sister Deeje that
were riding that night, you know, and Terry has since
passed away. And but anyways, Uh, everybody was quiet when
I said we were quiet in the truck. We were quiet.
I mean, it's nobody. Nobody hardly breathed when that happened,
So we cranked up and got out of there. We
went to one more place and it was called Monument.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Now, just just so the audience has cleared, this was
an iridescent like light being that stepped out of a
beam of light and walked in front of you in
the wow.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
And the millanare isn't in a bottom, it was in
a bottom of the woods. Yeah, I mean way in
the bottom.

Speaker 1 (01:34:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:34:24):
I'm trying to let me see if I can describe
what they look like. It was a tall beam, probably
about seven foot tall, not really wide, didn't have a
lot of gurf to a lot of build to it.
It was just tall and skinny and it the colors
look like a rainbow color, but no color. It's hard
for me to describe because we don't have colors like that. Okay, Yeah,

(01:34:47):
I had to described some of the colors in it.
It would be a bright white, a blue, a green
I don't know, and some other colors. It's just really
really hard for me to describe because we don't have
colors like that here. I mean, don't. I mean, it's
it's the best way I can describe it to you.
But mostly most excuse me, mostly bright white, blue and green,

(01:35:11):
not really no red or anything like that, you know.
But I remember going coming out going across us and
we just all watched it and it went across the
road it was a dirt road, went across the dirt road,
went down the hill, kind of hesitated there for a minute,
and it took off. That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:28):
That's incredible. That was just the final experience of that trip.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Well we no, that's not it. So then we leave
there and they said, y'all want to go get one
more spot, And I said, this is crazy. I said, yeah, yeah,
let's go do at more. So what's a place called monument? Now,
this is kind of a sad place, you know, because
it was a place where some children were raised there
and some of them had died stuff like that, you know,
and so that had some sad stuff that happened there.

(01:35:56):
But anyways, they had a big monument there too. We uh,
you know, marked the spot and everything and to give
a dedication, you know, to those families and stuff like that.
And so while we were there, we pulled in there
right in front of the mind. We sit there as
soon as we get there is the only time they're
really mine spoke to me. Mind spoke to me a
couple of times. And when we got there, we pulled

(01:36:21):
up and we stopped. The first thing Barry said. Barry said, Scotty,
let's get up. I said, nope. They mine spoke to
me me. He said, don't get out. So I said, okay,
they said they said. He said, come on, let's get out.
We're gonna do a live. And I said, ooh, I'm
gonna sit right here. Said they told me to stay in.
He said, what is it. Come on, I'm not gonna
hurt you. I say no, I said, I know they're not. Said,

(01:36:41):
it's respect, you know, I respect. I'm in there in
the territorym in their home, and I'm just going to
respect them, and that's what I'm gonna do. So I said, okay.
So they finally talked his sister to get out with him,
and they didn't go far. They got out of the doors,
walked to the edge of the truck where the bumper is,
and both of them stood there. So he began to
get his phone on and he begins to do a live.

(01:37:02):
And when we first got there, we could see eyes
shine and stuff around. But what was amazing was they
had some little ones in the trees. You see the
eyes glide up across, They glide up, they move around,
they go over here, they go over there. They don't
really jump like that. They were just kind of glide
like this, you know, And that's that's where they moved.
And so I began to hear footsteps around me, and
I seeing all these dark shadows. Now this is amazing.

(01:37:26):
I kept trying to do like a night vision thing
on my phone, the half that I had downloaded, and
everyone work. It's like they took over my phone. So
I said, okay, I'm just gonna start taking pictures. So
we're gonna take pictures and stuff. And all of a sudden,
I hear this noise. It's like really close. And I
told the guy and sitting me and the other guy
never to get out. So he was just sitting there
and he actually when we first got out there smoking

(01:37:49):
a cigarette and then he rolled up his wounded He
rolled my mind, leave it down, I'm good, he said,
you shoot. One of us said no, I'm good, just
leave it there. Of course, when you turn on, all
the inside of life still come on, you know, because
that's where it sits. So anyway, see he rolled up
his wooding and stuff like that, and so he left
mine down. I said, just leave it down. It's gonna
be okay. So sure enough to hear this noise and stuff,

(01:38:09):
and I can look in his rear of your mirror,
and I see eye shine behind me in the rear
of your mirror. And so I seen off to the side,
I could see moving and all I could see was
was dark shadows moving around. I can see him coming
toward us and moving around. There were some trees and
stuff on the side of us. So all of a sudden,
one walks past us, and so I began to just

(01:38:31):
take pictures and stuff. When I've seen a dark shadow
go by, and all of a sudden, I seen it
turn around and I could see it all can see.
It was a dark shadow. I could see on them
reach inside the window and tried to grab my phone
out and said, no, don't do that. But right before
I did, I took a picture and that then you're
gonna see the picture that I sent to you, and
you'll see the face. So I actually got a picture
of that.

Speaker 1 (01:38:51):
Wow. Man, that is so.

Speaker 3 (01:38:53):
But they never tried to hurt me the whole time
I was there. You know, and I just no, no,
don't do that, you know, That's all I said. But
I could feel it's like, see how close you get
to him? Yeah, that's how close though it was to him.

Speaker 1 (01:39:04):
That that's incredible. Now, your experiences with this, you with
this particular trip, was just mainly the wild men, the
sasquatch and these these light beings that you saw right.

Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Right, I don't remember seeing anything else. Now, what all's there?
There's a lot there, I mean, there's a whole lot there.
They told me. The little people are there, the dog
men are there, the forest people are there. Of course,
they got aliens and stuff that coming out and what
we call aliens, but they're just different beings, you know.
And what else is there? They've seen the goat man

(01:39:43):
is there. So there's a man with goat head stuff
and the horns and all that. He's there. I asked
about the moth man too, and they said, I think
they said one time they seen the moth man there,
just a few times, not a lot, but the goat
man is definitely that. They know where he's at, in
the area he stays at.

Speaker 1 (01:39:59):
Now and in recent times you started your experiences started
to evolve into different types of encounters within different types
of beings. Right in recent morvas and times even extra terrestrials.

Speaker 3 (01:40:13):
Well, I've had some things happen, and recently it's it's
really picked up. And I don't talk about this a
whole lot, but yeah, I've had visitations and stuff and
I don't know what it is. I don't know if
they come and pick me up and they used me
for something. The last experience I had was and this

(01:40:34):
is which was really creepy and crazy. Is is that?
How do you know it's real? Well, right after I
came back, I was very very disoriented. Took me I
had to It was like on the weekend, all the
stuff was going on, and actually was it was last
weekend and started happening, and my sinus has really really

(01:40:55):
messed up. When I came back, when I blew my nose,
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:40:58):
Now what was it? Was it like a dream type
or I'm going.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
To get into that and I'll explain it to you.
That's what I'm trying to do now. But I'm trying
to approach it the right way. I remember everything that happened. Okay,
So to me, it was physical, it was real because
when I when I woke up the next morning, I
blew my nose and there was this real fine sand

(01:41:26):
type stuff. Okay, and so what happened? And also I
had some marks on my leg where I didn't have
before before that when I woke up that morning, they
weren't there before. So anyways, what happened was they came
and got me, and we went somewhere. And I don't
know where it's at. I don't know if there was
another planet or it was here on Earth, but I

(01:41:48):
can tell you what it looked like. I still remember
when I became aware of what it was. We were
in a big old tunnel, real huge tunnel on all
on the side of the tunney was carved out of rock,
and on each side of the columns all the way down,
these big columns and everything. So we walked along ways
in there, and it was a light inside there, not

(01:42:11):
like a regular light, like an iridescent light that was there,
but we could see the whole way in there, and
we walked down there. We just kept on walking and
I couldn't see the source of light, couldn't hear anything.
There was no noise except we were walking down but
strangers who was with me. There was a sasquatch person
with me. There was an insecticoid, secticide or sextusoid, how

(01:42:34):
you said, this guy. There was some bigger grays that
were with me, not the small ones, the big ones.
They were with me. They were everybody was taller than me.
And so we kept walking down this I would call
it a hallway or a corridor. And also we came
to this one spot and there was a acopaica center

(01:42:56):
and it was black. It was all black, and it
looked to be made of some kind of stone, some
heavy stone. I don't know where it is. It was
really really heavy, but it could barely fill up in there. Okay,
So it went in there. And when we got there,
the sasquatch went over there and he picked the lid up,
moved it over a little bit, and he told me,
he said, get inside there. I couldn't hardly get up there.
So I climbed up and to helped me get inside,
and was looking around and this thing was huge. When

(01:43:18):
I said it was big, it was huge. It was big.
When it got down in there, whatever it was had
long fingers. Because I seen the fingers, the fingers came
up and they were trying to hold me. And I
remember trying to get out of there, and I said,
help me get out of there, Come on, say, this
thing's got me, won't let me go, And I remember
it grabbed me on my leg and it squeezed me
and grabbed my leg and actually punched my leg. And

(01:43:40):
so that thing pulled me out. And next thing I remember,
I was waking up in the morning. But here's a
creepy part where something was touching my back in the
back of my leg, like it was setting me in
my bead. Like when I went to sleep, I was
sleeping on my right hand side. And then when I
woke up, when it let me loose and gave me

(01:44:01):
my brain back or whatever, then I was still on
my right hand side. But the weird does weird things.
My sonces were so gig you can hear me now.
My sons are still messed up. I'm just now getting on.
I took a lot of sciences messing this whole week,
even flushed it out. It's like something was in it
when I when I blew in the morning, it was
it was just red and orange looking colors.

Speaker 1 (01:44:23):
You know, Sorry, I was muted. Now you had more
experiences with these mantis type beings more communication, right.

Speaker 3 (01:44:35):
I haven't had a lot with That's the only time
I remember having having that type of stuff. You know,
I've been visited by a an Egyptian dog man before.
What I don't know. It wasn't it wasn't what you
call it, dark one. What's his name it? It wasn't Anubis. No,
it was somebody that somebody in a different family or

(01:44:57):
something like that, because it had a it had a
human human body. It had the breastplate on, had the
skirt on, had the things on, and its arms right here,
and it had sandals on. And anyways, it came to
me and it held my face down and was telling
me to stay down, just ting me to stay down,
stay down. And then when it did that, I all

(01:45:20):
could think of was a calling name of Jesus. I
kept saying Jesus, Jesus, Jesus. But his whole time, it
was like this on my head and my whole face hurt,
and so I just began to call the name of Jesus.
And it was amazing because this this being, whatever it was,
had come from the south and it left out to
the east, and it was a bright light that came
into my house and it was like like Jesus was there,

(01:45:43):
you know, and he just turned and walked forward us
saying that thing took off it low.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
That's incredible. And you were also saying that in that
area and other places in Louisiana, there are other types
of cryptid beings like reptilians.

Speaker 3 (01:45:58):
Right, it's not necessarily a reptilian, but some kind of
aquatic beings that are here.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
They've been too interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
So yeah, they've had that here too. So they've had
aquatic type beans here. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
Well, how have those been described?

Speaker 3 (01:46:17):
Like a lizard man or a lizard person something like that.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
So it is kind of kind of like a reptilian.
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:46:23):
Yeah, it would be something like a reptilian. Yeah, that's
the best way I can describe it. I've heard of those.
I've heard people tell me stories like that too. It's amazing.
Once you get into this and you start telling your
story about what happened, you know, other people opened up there.
A lot of them don't want to be named, okay,
I mean very very very few. Well, well I don't
want to know the names out there, Okay, I'm just

(01:46:45):
brave enough to come and do it. You want to
tell you my stories and stuff like that. And I
haven't heard of a lot of mermaid stories, you know.
Here I had a cousin who went to They went
on vacation and went to Hawaiian and they've seen a mermaid.
It came from the up, came up and looked at them,
and then took off and went straight back down again.

(01:47:05):
They were on a big corel wreath and I'm trying
to remember the the island they were on, I can't
remember right now, but anyways, they were right next to
a coral reef that dropped off a couple of hundred
feet and they said, also, this thing shot up, looked
at them and turn on a shot back down.

Speaker 1 (01:47:20):
Now, you were taking me around some of the wilderness
and that in your area and showing me some possible
areas where it could indicate that these these creatures could
be like the branches that have put down into crosses,
some possible footprints. What are some other evidence that you

(01:47:41):
could see that maybe folks can go out and see
for themselves that would indicate that these creatures are out there.
I know some people hear tree knocks and they have
other forms of communication and even gifting that they do.
What have you noticed?

Speaker 3 (01:47:56):
I personally don't gift them anything I haven't started that
don't really care started. I don't. I don't do that
type of stuff because I've already got enough issues with
them coming in my house now, you know. So yeah,
I'm being serious. Okay, But if you if you want to,
if you have an encounter, you hear something, you want
to research it, just be very careful because there the

(01:48:19):
dog men in the in the Sasquatch are like people,
not all not all people are nights. Okay, so just
let you know. But if you if you some signs
to see. Here we go, you walking in the woods,
and all of a sudden you see normal trees and
also nobody foot up. You see one cracked, You see
one just snapped and bent down. Okay, maybe see something
going across the road like that. Maybe see one just broke,

(01:48:40):
like something is broke and the whole tree is laying
across the ground. There's nothing else. It's not have been
a storm, have been anything else. That's a sign. Another
thing is you see crosses like this. They can they
can put crosses, big crosses across a pathway or looks
like a straight away in the woods or something like that,
or crosses on the ground. No thing is you'll see
a normal woods with pine straw and stuff like that,

(01:49:05):
leaves all over the place, and all a sudden you
see a big area that's pretty good. So I say
a ten foot square or ten foot circle that's really clean.
That's another sign. You can tell what else smells.

Speaker 1 (01:49:20):
Well. I've heard that people have heard things like whoops,
whooping calls, and like what sounds like samurai chatter and
things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:49:28):
If you heard that, yeah, give examples of out all
that to everything I've heard. Whistles. Yeah, okay, so this
is what I've heard so far. I've heard whistles. Heard that. So,
me and my cousin were hunting and he had shot
a deer. So and went to go help him retrieve it.
And when I went over there, the first thing I
heard was, it's like that back and forth of different hawkers. Okay, oh,

(01:49:53):
this is getting natured, you know. And so he thought
it was hunters. I thought it was fine. I knew
what it was. Back and tell him, no different man,
The hunters all around us, now, you know, I said, yeah,
because our hunting leases in the national forest and then
they have you know, public plan around us that, but
we have private land that we hunt on. And all
of a sudden we started coming back and we heard

(01:50:13):
but real loud. I can't whistle out. I was like,
like that, wonders that's it. He said, God, they're all
over the places and says yep, sure. So I thought
that was funny. How's I got another story. I'll tell
you real quick. Uh my best friend, uh season before
last wanted to go with me. I wanted to go
deer hunting and stuff like that will come on. He

(01:50:34):
was kind of in between starting new jobs and stuff
like that, and so he had a couple of weeks
off of breakings and start a new job and he
does contracting works what he does. So said, now I
just want to go hang out with hung the deer hunting,
you know, say as a little boys will come home,
come go with me, go get in box. So we went.
So that morning, nothing happened. Nothing happened all okay. So
that evening we went. It was real quiet, unusually quiet.

(01:50:56):
It's man, this is weird. This is quiet, said, something's
going on. So we hard to leave and start to
walk out and go back and just go ride the
golf cart out and stuff. You know. So anyways, we
were walking out and I start mind speaking, say, I said,
y'all here, would you please give us a sign that
you're here.

Speaker 1 (01:51:10):
All of a.

Speaker 3 (01:51:10):
Sudden they went and we whack like that when it
hit and it was so loud, and it was way
as forty acres across a clear cut. Came back and
hit us in the chest. Wow, And he's like, he
looked at me. He said, it's time to get out
of here, said the hurt. I said, if they wanted

(01:51:32):
to hurt it, they be right there on you, you know,
and so that they'll be on you in two seconds,
I said, from forty yards away. I said, they're so fast.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Well, have you heard of any attacks or anything like
that on people.

Speaker 3 (01:51:44):
Personally?

Speaker 1 (01:51:45):
No, I haven't heard that, even from dog men, the
more aggressive entities.

Speaker 3 (01:51:51):
Okay, this is this is me and my surroundings and
my people. No, I haven't heard that. I've heard attacks
off away from here, but not here in at least
people don't talk about it, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:52:03):
Yeah, yeah, what about animal mutilations or you know, even
missing pets or dogs or things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:09):
Well, I've had a deer stolen from me. So the
weekend before I had my sighting, I shot a deer
and it was muzzle loading season or what it called
primitive hunting. Then I had a muzzleoader and I shot
a deer, got all the deer standing, went to go
retrieve it, and I seen the deer. The deer had
laid over case, so it's it's gone. And so I
went to go retrieve my deer. And also the deer

(01:52:31):
gets up like this. I look the legs I'm moving
just goes like that takes all I looked at that.
So all that started the weekend before you and I'm like, go,
that's crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:52:43):
You know, yeah, that.

Speaker 3 (01:52:47):
Move it was now a little like you pick up
a purse, you know, or something like that, and it's
just hanging down a rag. You know. It just and
so you know, I talked to one of the first
interviews I did was with the late Carry Arnold, and
he told me similar stories. So he had like a big,
huge deer shot like it was like a ten point
something like that, and he said he went to go
retrieve he shot it. He said it go down. His

(01:53:07):
mom they said when he climbed out out of the
stand and went to go retrieve as deer wasn't there.
That's happened to a lot of people, goes. My cousin
even told me a story about that. He said he
shot it, went over there to go get it. Deer
with there.

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
Yeah, man, I got a couple more questions, and I'll
let you go. Some of the skeptics would ask, why
do they never leave dead bodies? Why don't we see remains?
Why don't we ever see their poop? And what do
they eat? What do you think about those questions?

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Well, you asked a lot of questions.

Speaker 1 (01:53:37):
Well we'll start one by one. What about their dad?

Speaker 3 (01:53:40):
About one by one, I'm going to tell you about
each one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:42):
Sure, sure, I asked the question, what about the remains,
the dead bodies? Do they bury them? Why do we
never find them?

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Sadly to say, but the our government is highly involved
in and stuff. Okay, I've heard that. So if one
is shot and you let the police know, or you
let your d n R or no, or you let
the rod life picture is no, they'll never see it again.

Speaker 1 (01:54:05):
Uh huh. That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (01:54:06):
The other thing, that's why I just never see them.
So you know, if it does happen that you see
these things, it's best take a picture and get away
from them. I think that they bury their own myself,
you know, they think they do.

Speaker 1 (01:54:21):
What about their waist? Do you ever find bigfoot poop anywhere?

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
I haven't, but other people have seen pictures of it.
So I have seen people. There's funny people singing pictures
of that stuff. You know. I have seen stuff in
the woods. Okay, I'm not gonna say. Let me just
say this. I've never seen a big chunks, but I've
seen stuff that was a splat before, like a big
old splat. Yeah, I understand what be ugly, but yeah,

(01:54:50):
I mean I have seen that before. I haven't seen
a big role before. I've never seen that, but yeah,
I have seen pictures.

Speaker 1 (01:54:58):
Interesting, What about what do you think they eat? Are
they are they vegetarians? Or are they imni like?

Speaker 3 (01:55:04):
People there think of them like this. They are people
with special abilities the case. So just leave it that
they are people that were brought here from another planet.
And that's my belief one. I will put my word
my life on it. That's it. They're not from here. Okay,
so they're not from here. They're brought here to work
a long time ago, and some say their son died

(01:55:26):
and so their planet was dying, so they had to leave,
so they came here, and this is the planet that
was closest to their to their planet. You know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:35):
Have you seen any UFOs anomalous lights in the sky
things like that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:39):
Yeah, I've actually seen. I have four counts of UFOs.

Speaker 1 (01:55:43):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:55:44):
The first one I seen was a long time ago.
I think it was two thousand, maybe two thousand and
one or two. It was actually in a church group
was on a retreat and down in Dessin and there's
a group. I was about eight people there, so that
was good bit of us there. We got there early
and the sun and just went down, and so more

(01:56:05):
people were coming in from the group that night, you know.
And they had like a little board walk out there
and with some benches and we were just sitting there
and also we just see this green light oovers that's
all you hear, just went. You could hear it, that's
all you heard, and it sparkled. It was low. That
was the first one I saw. Yeah. The next one

(01:56:26):
I saw we was actually at our hunt lease in
North Louisiana and we were talking about it. My little
cousin just happened to be telling me about He said, uh,
he said, we've seen some lights in the sky and
they were they were like a group of going across
the sky like this. One time. I said, really, so
they're in the line. He said no, they were just
kind of but they were just going across the sky
like that. I said, yeah, that sounds like you could

(01:56:46):
be a UFO that there were. There were white they
were just like an led light. I think we looking
at then led light. That's what they look like. This
looks like a white light. So soon as we were
saying that, all of a sudden, we see this this
light and does this goes across and it goes and
it disappears. So my my thought is the light goes

(01:57:07):
across and goes into a portal and goes where it
goes to. But it was just like a like a
It was just like this opened up like that and
it closed it that was it's just like a mine
and it stopped. Now I've seen this more than once, okay,
and I'm gonna get to that in just a second.
The next time it was Hurricane to Ida, and after
right after Hurricane the next the next night, and so

(01:57:30):
the hurricane had just passed through everybody's generators want and
hardly any lights on everything on. People on the lights
are wrong? Were people that were, you know, burning candles
and lights like battery outread lights and stuff like that.
So hardly lights on it up. So the sky was
really really bright that night. All of a sudden, the
flight line from my house, it's it's east and west

(01:57:52):
like this. Okay, nothing comes this way, I mean nothing.
And all of a sudden, me and my wife are
sitting some lawnchairs, just sitting out to talk, you know,
and uh, we're looking up there, and all of a sudden,
see this this light coming out. And she goes, look
at that light coming and I say, yep, because it
looks like a helicopter plane. I said, well, let's just
let's see if it makes a noise. Got closer and
close and closer. Never made any noise, never blinked, It's

(01:58:13):
just a bright light. And so she goes, it's gotta
be some kind of plane or system. Now not really
used to watch. Let me try something. So I said, hey,
I can see you. As soon as I said that,
the light did like this, and it went out and
all of a sudden, it's just a flat It's a
flat surface like this, and closer it got, it was spinning.
The bottom of was spinning. It was silver and blue,

(01:58:36):
and there was a hole in the center of it,
and it came toward us and almost got over us.
And we're just quiet. At this point. I'm just laughing.
I think it's funny. And I also it takes a
forty five goes like this and the heads straight west
toward t toward Texas, just all's tail. And my wife
gets up out of the chairs. She goes, I'm going inside,
and said, what you gonna do if it want? It

(01:58:56):
gets here? Whatever? Gotcha?

Speaker 1 (01:59:00):
Man?

Speaker 3 (01:59:01):
I thought that was funny. So those those about four
UFO stories.

Speaker 1 (01:59:05):
Yeah, that's great. Well let's close on this. Why do
they think Why do you think that they made themselves
known to you? Why do you think that they were
comfortable enough to show themselves. Most people go their entire
lives and will never see anything like this.

Speaker 3 (01:59:18):
You know, I don't know. I really can't answer that.
I don't know one hundred percent. I think they feel
comfortable around me. I think they know that in my heart,
I'm not going to hurt them. So I've actually asked
peace with them. I don't want to hurt them. I
never point a gun at them and never hurt them.
When I pointed my rifle out on the dog, man
thought I was going to shoot him, but I wasn't.
I was just looking at it. In fact, the sasquatch

(01:59:39):
the forest person told him his finger's not on the trigger. Now,
how can that thing see or know that far away
that my finger was like this, Because if you're a shooter,
your fingers never on the trigger. You're a shooter, your
fingers here until you're ready to commit. So it knew
that my finger was not on the trigger. Okay. And
so I I think they know that I'm not there

(02:00:01):
to hurt them. If I want to hurt them, I
would have shot up the woods stuff like that. And
I'm not that type of person. I won't want to
go out and hurt them or anything like that. And
so you know they know I'm not going to hurt
their family. So I think that's why. Another thing that
is they know that I'm a good person, a godly person.
I raided my Bible. I read my Bible in front
of them, and so I think they can get inside
your head and they can read your mond so they

(02:00:22):
know who I am as a person. So if you
have an interest in this type of stuff, if you've
seen something like that before, then I would say take
take a good approach to it. Don't go out in
the woods beating on trees and stuff like that, and
don't do that. That is not my approach at all.
When I walk into the woods or father one of
the time. Let me tell y'all, they come to me

(02:00:42):
when I go to my hunt liasas and they come
right up to me, they can come to me. I'll
tell you one more story before Lee. Last time I
was up there, you know where me and my wife
were actually building a little campground up there so we
can bring camper and leave it there and camp during
you know the year and stuff like that when I
get toward retirement. So anyways, my cousin let me borrow
a piece of heavy equipment it had, and I was

(02:01:04):
clearing the land and stuff like that and doing some stuff.
I couldn't get it started. So a bunch of my
cousins were there. We're all looking at this thing, this
piece of equipment stuff like that. So finally got it
running and all that, and has to do with them
lesson with electronics too, okay, because there was nothing wrung
with it, and also come back with something wrong with
it and it just goes away. You know. Well, they
have a German shepherd, big German shepherd, I'll send. This

(02:01:27):
thing runs toward the woods, all the hair standing up
on it like this, and he's just growling like that,
you know. And anyways, all my cousins are standing there
looking at it. You know, they didn't know what to do.
So I turned to my cousin and I asked him.
I said, your dog every done? Worey said never. So
they know who you are. And you know, I've been

(02:01:49):
bluff charged before. I had a dog. Man when I
was clearing my land run up to me and got
about probably about twenty thirty feet away from me, and
I could hear it coming across the words just come
across a hill, come down across the road, across from us.
Came up my land up the hill and got right

(02:02:09):
up on me and just got down like this and
was looking at me, you know, all fours and just
god down was looking at it like this, and I
just looked at it and I just turned around and
walked away from them, So they know my intention. They
know I'm not going to hurt them and not gonna
get a gun shoot out and stuff like that. So
they know who you are. But your your approach should
should always be a friendly one. And if you feel

(02:02:30):
threatened him any kind of way, if you feel sick
to your stomach or something like that, get out because
they will zachy. I've been zapped twice before, two times,
and I actually threw up. I mean I threw up
like I've been drinking all that long. Just threw up,
you know. But anyways, I just a very, very very
sick and it took me a while to get over
that the whole day. So another thing is is you'll

(02:02:53):
know when they're around. You'll smell them some ton of
stinky and stuff like that. They'll give off signs stuff
like that, or they'll throw a stick or a rock
or something like that. You know they're there something you
know to get your way. But if they got if
they got babies are young, they've got to go run
you out of there. You're gonna get run out of there.
They'll growl at you. I've had a grit their teeth.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
At me mm hmm, like.

Speaker 3 (02:03:12):
This at night, right before dark, I'm waiting. I'm waiting
to get a deer. And also I start hearing stuff
like that, I'm like, oh, time to get out. I
just pick rifle up. Get I said, I respect you.
I'm gonna I'm out of here.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
That's incredible, Scott. These these stories are amazing and h
thank you. I'm sure you're gonna have plenty of more
experiences and we will contect you to document them and
we'll have more conversations.

Speaker 3 (02:03:36):
At some point, Tom, I want to write a book,
you know, I'm start writing amazing, get it at least
get a journal, start writing this stuff down, you know,
because I mean now it's starting to multiply so much.
Now it's just getting crazier and crazier. You know.

Speaker 1 (02:03:48):
Yeah, but definitely something you should.

Speaker 3 (02:03:50):
It's incredible, you know, it really is. But thank you.
I appreciate you taking time to share my stories and
to listen to me. I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (02:03:56):
Thank you, Scott. And we'll do it again soon. Till
next time, every one to have an excellent evening. We
will talk again tomorrow. We'll see y'all then

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