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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Zachary King. Be sure to watch
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dot com with subject gathering. It is a potluck event,
so we ask that you bring food or drink to contribute.
We hope to see as many of you as possible
there today. I want to welcome Zachary King. He is
an international speaker and former high wizard for a Satanic
coven who shares the story of his miraculous escape from Satanism. Zachary, welcome,

(01:55):
How you.

Speaker 3 (01:56):
Doing doing good?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
How are you excellent? It is great to have you.
We're really looking forward to hearing your story, getting your
insights to share with the audience. You started practicing magic
at a very young age and that led you down
an extremely dark path, but you eventually had a miraculous
experience that led you down your current path. And this
is such an incredible story. There's so much to discuss

(02:21):
here before we do. This is your first time on
Let the audience know first how they can find out
more about you.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Uh you can find me at my website. All Saintsministry
dot org. I also have a Spotify account. It's All
Saints Ministry, but mine has the front and back of
a miraculous middle and two candles on it because there's
a lot of All Saints ministries on there. My phone
number is eight oh two five seven eight sixty five

(02:50):
five four. My email address is Mystic for God at
yahoo dot com, and on my website is the link
to my spot if I account linked to my YouTube channel.
I also put out YouTube shorts. I actually have a
pair of YouTube shorts. A pair of shorts say YouTube
on them. I think what else. I have a Twitter account,

(03:18):
but you know, not called Twitter anymore. But I think
I've only posted like Merry Christmas to my one fan
by one follower back, like I don't know, seven or
eight years ago, and I never post on it. I've
got a Facebook page, but I haven't posted on that
over a year. I think that's about every day.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Well, thank you so much for that, Zachary, and thank
you again for joining us. Let's start from the beginning
with this. I know that you started from a very
young age practicing magic, but let's hear your story as
much as you can tell. With the time we have.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
All right. So by the time I was ten years old,
I had seen every movie that had magic in it,
and had watched like Doug Henning and David Copperfield form
illusion on television. And I wanted magic to work. I
wanted magic to be real. But I didn't want to

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pull a rabbit out of a hat or show you
a card drink. I wanted the levity or do something
that you know, like, there's two types of magic MG,
I see and that's Doug Henning's light of vand an
illusion making an elephant disappear. Because the biggest disappointment to
me it was finding out that when they did a

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TV special and it showed an elephant disappear from one
spot and then reappear in another spot, there was no
magic involved in that. That was the camera turning off
and then reappearing over here where they built the exact
same set that the elephant was on over here where
there's no elephants, And then it was just a trickery.

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And then everybody that was on the set had to
sign a non disclosure agreement, so they had to swear
that they're not going to tell everybody what really happened,
you know, And I was like, no, that's not what
I want. I want, like, I want to do a
real magic spell. I want to make somebody love it.
Takee make myself love the tape. Hey, if I could

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levitate all the way to school, I'd be the coolest
kid in school. And if I could make money appear
out of nowhere, you know, if I could make something
appear or disappear at will, that would be great, you know.
And I mean I was reading Doctor Strange and comic books.
I was watching the version, the early version of Marvel

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movies we had on television. There was a Spider Man's
show that wasn't just a cartoon, it was an actual
show that came out. It was terrible, you know, the
special effects were horrible, and you know, Sam walking a
tightrope made it look like a web. But I still
one of those superhero special effects in my real life.

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And so I asked my Baptist preacher, who seems to
know the whole Bible, and my dad, who seemed to
know part of the Bible anyway, if magic was real,
is this something I can really do? And my Baptist
preacher and my parents all said, no, magic is fake,
It's not true. It's just stuff comic books or fantasy movies.

(06:28):
Magic is nothing you can really do. Now, like to
pause here for a second and say, how did my
parents and my Baptist preach. Now, my Baptist preacher should know,
like he had to go to college to learn this.
He went, he should have read the entire Bible. It
says in the Bible thirty three times not to do
magical things. Now, now, I'm not lie is in the

(06:53):
Bible once. Now's I'm not killed. Now's i'nst deal. Those
are big commandments, but they're all in the Bible one time.
And if it was impossible to lie, thus I'm not lie,
wouldn't either it was impossible to steal or kill. God
would not command you to not do it if you

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could not do it. It's like we don't have a
speed on a sign that says don't go over seven
hundred miles an hour because nobody can do it. So
if he's saying don't do magical things thirty three times,
then perhaps doing magic one is capable. It's something you

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can do if he's telling you not to do it.
And two, maybe it's more important do not do magic.
Then you don't lie because he only said don't lie once.
He said don't do magical things thirty three times. Somehow
my Baptist preacher and my dad didn't read those verses

(07:56):
because they said it was impossible. Now my train of
thought here is child, was my dad has told me
things in the past that weren't true. He thought they
were true, but they weren't true, or he was wrong,
or he was lying, and I didn't know which one
it was. But maybe this is the case. Maybe they

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know it works and they don't want me to do
it because you know, my parents and creatures obviously are
the fun beliefs. You know, if it's fun, don't do it.
So I'm just thinking, I'm going to keep trying it.
If I can prove magic works, this will be the
coolest thing in the world. Now, if I prove his

(08:37):
fault doesn't work, I'm not going to waste my time
with it. So I was thinking, what could I do
as a magic spell that would prove that it works?
And I thought, you know, when I play Dungeons and
Dragons every weekend, I play with the older kids at
my church and school, and we always do campaigns for

(08:59):
money first, so we can afford to do the campaign.
So it's always for gold or jewelry or you know,
something like that and precious stones. And so I decided
I'm going to do spell for money, and I did
a spell for money. Next day, I went out and
I found a count of tennis balls for five dollars

(09:21):
in it. I thought, this is pretty cool. But somebody
had to find this. You know, it was at the
tennis courts. Somebody just probably put it down on the
ground forgot about it, drove off. And so the next
weekend I did it again and I found a ten
dollar bill inside of the wreck. All right, eight days,

(09:42):
fifteen dollars. This is nineteen seventy six. So back then,
comic books were fifteen to twenty cents, candy bars were
fifteen to twenty cents, and penny candy was a penny
and for five bucks. If my dad paid attacks, I
could give five hundred pieces of candy. So, you know,

(10:05):
to put that in perspective. For now, that same piece
of candy that I used to pay one cent for,
they now charge like fifty cents, which is insane. Put
that even more in perspective. When my dad was a kid,
he used to get ten pieces of candy for a penny.
But that's so can So that's pretty crazy. So also

(10:31):
at the same time as this is going on, there's
this game at school that just came in. I'm in
the fifth grade, first day of the fifth grade. This
kid walks up to me and says, gave me in
the bathroom at the first break. Now, we didn't have
children beware that. There was no internet to tell you,
you know, safety protocols. Nobody told us. If somebody says

(10:52):
me me in the bathroom, don't go. You know. I
didn't know anything like that. So I went in the bathroom.
It's ten twenty am and here's like fifty kids. It's
brand new school, brand new building, huge bathrooms, and they've
got a new system for the lights. You got a
key the you had to put in and turn off
the lights or turn them back on. And some kids,

(11:14):
some genius kid figured out if you unfold the paper
clip that's to get in there, you can turn the
lights on it off. It was like okay, So he said, okay,
so we're going to turn out the lights and chant
to phrase a certain number of times and if you
do it right, the spirit of a burn victim will
show up in the mirror. Nobody believes that, but you know, okay, whatever.

(11:36):
So it turns out it's not a game, it's a spell,
and it's not the spirit of a burn victim. It's
a demon. But we don't know anything like that. We're
ten years old and the kid turns out the lights.
Some of the kids have answer, we're ten years old,
they're still I used to being in the dark. And
we chant this phrase and suddenly the mirror lights up.

(12:00):
This scary face appears, and forty nine kids run screaming
out of the bathroom. One child he's an idiot, and
I can say that about him. It's me stayed in
the bathroom vac This is the coolest thing ever. I
chanted the phrase, I saw the face. I made this appear. Now.

(12:20):
I don't know who he is, but he looks like
the spirit of a burn victim because his skin is
super dark, looks like maybe it was charred in the fire.
And the tops of his lips are melted down and
are over they're connected to the bottom part of his lips,
and he's got really sharp teeth. He's got a snarl
on his face. But I mean, if you died in

(12:41):
a fire. You might look like that too, So you know,
I'm not thinking it's a scary face. I'm thinking, oh,
this poor person. And remember too, at ten years old,
you're not the sharpest marble. You know, this guy is not.
You haven't tapped into some castle in Ireland three thousand
miles away. You haven't even tapped into the wall the

(13:05):
room behind the mirror. If you're seeing the demon in
the mirror, he's standing next to you, you know. And
I'm like, I'm not smart enough to figure that one out.
I'm just thinking I've got the spirit of a burn
victim in the mirror, not at all considering that if
it's a mirror, if he's in the mirror, he's reflecting.

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You know what it means, he's standing next to you reflecting.
So but they sent notes home eventually saying that if
we were caught playing this game in school because kids
were starting to get badly hurt, that we'd be suspended.

Speaker 2 (13:41):
You said, kids were starting to get hurt, and I had.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
To take and kids got kids got trample. We had
a kid got a broken arm, another kid got a
broken leg. You know, like having fifty kids run over them.
So I had to take this note to my dad
and the tent. And my dad usually just took a note,

(14:08):
snatched it out of my hands, signed it through a
back of me, never read it. Today it was my
lucky day today. He decided he'd read the note. And
my dad had been a sniper in the US Marines,
and he looked at the note, read it, made this
scowl and asked me in his usual loving tone, have
you been playing this game and being terrified with my

(14:32):
dad as I was? I told him one hundred percentage truth.
I looked him in the eye and said no, so
that I wouldn't spend a lovely three days with my dad.
I started playing the game at home. Now where could
the danger in that? So I have a bathroom in

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my bedroom, so I'm going in there every day now.
When I did it at school, I did it once
a day. Now that I'm doing it at home. I
wake up in the morning, I play the game. I
use the bathroom. I played the game. I burst my teeth.
I played the game. I play it ten times before breakfast.
After breakfast, I go back and I burst my teeth again.

(15:15):
I played the game. I play it two or three
more times. Before I leave from school. When I get
home from school, my parents aren't there, and until I
get supper, I'm playing that game. So I'm playing it
twenty five or fifty times a day. Every time I
play it, that face shows up. Not keep in mind

(15:36):
that I'm a fat, little nerding kid, so all my
friends are nerds like me. If we're not playing D
and D, for example, or we're not just laying around
reading comic books, I'm playing this game. So to me,
this person in the mirror, although I don't know him personally,

(15:57):
is like my friend because he keeps showing up and
I'm kinda I've never I never had a conversation with him.
I tell him goodbye when I turn out the lights.
I sometimes tell him below when he shows up. He
never says anything back. You know, I'm thought maybe he

(16:17):
can't hear me because he's in the mirror and I'm
out here.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
It never once occurred to me that he was standing
right beside me. And I'm happy playing the game. I
like doing it, you know. I also you know, one
day I did the magic spell for money, and in
the middle of it, I was doing it in the bathroom,
went home and I did bloody Mary chant, and then

(16:45):
the face shows up and I show it that I'm
doing a spell for money. I don't know if this
guy is anywhere other than the mirror, and I don't
know what exactly I'm doing, but maybe this is something.
Maybe this is the power I can harness. Maybe I

(17:05):
can make something happen with this, Maybe he can make
something happen. So magic spell for money. Do the bloody
Mary chant. Finish the magic spell for money. Next day
I went out to play next day. Every time I
did magic, it was a Friday night. Next day, I'd
be Saturday. I'm out playing and I'm in this really large,

(17:26):
unpaid parking lot and something shiny catches my eye, so
I run off to see what that is. And when
I get there, there's nothing shiny there, but I find
what looks like Monopoly money will look tight over bands,
and I put that in my pocket and go back
to playing. Later that night, you know, everybody's taking their bath,
everybody's change clothes. You know, you're all in pajamas. And

(17:51):
when I got when I got home, I put in
my dresser. So when I got I'm getting ready for bed,
I turn out the lights give what. I had a
little tiny flashlight in there, and I get in my bed,
pull the sheet up over my head, put the flashlight on,
and I'm shining it on my treasure and I'm unrampling
all the rubber bands. When I finished unrappling everything, when

(18:15):
it looked like monopoly money because I'd never seen a
one hundred dollar bill, And then when I had everything,
I had ten one hundred dollar bills. So it's nineteen
seventy six. I'm worth a thousand dollars. I realized at
this point that I could buy one hundred thousand pieces
of candy and which would fill my house. And this

(18:39):
is like, this is before we had a lot of
before we had power Ball, before we had Mega millions.
There was nothing like that back then. But now I've
won a thousand dollars, I'd be worth about seven thousand
dollars now, So I imagine what you could do with
seven thousand dollars right now, you know. And I just
had it just with a expell. I had a thousand bucks,

(19:02):
and I knew I've got my walk in closet is
bigger than a lot of my friend's bedrooms. So and
it's full of clothes. My parents even stored clothes in there,
and shoes and boots and a lot of winter clothes
or why we needed winter clothes we lived in Florida.

(19:23):
But you know, it was an amazing walk in closet
that was now going to be filled with my stuff
that I buy and put in there, and my parents
will never know. You know, my mom's not going to
know that she didn't buy me this leather jacket. She
might have she buys me some much stuff, you know,
or shoes and boots that I like, you know, the

(19:44):
only stuff that I couldn't buy. I couldn't buy something
that was blatantly something she would not have bought me.
I can't buy like urban clothes. I can't buy Harley
Davidson anything because they know didn't buy me anything like that.

(20:06):
But there's tons of other stuff that I can get
and my parents never know. You know. I wear a
shirt out of the house and my dad's like, where'd
you get that? Goodwill? Okay? Or mom got it for
me from Goodwill? My mom really did get it. I

(20:27):
would say that, But if I bought it myself, I
would tell my dad that I bought it, you know,
But usually I would say I bought stuff at Goodwill
because they know back then, you know, you buy a
shirt at Goodwill, it was like a pickle. Pair of
pants with a dime, pair of shoes was maybe a quarter.
You know, It's like everything was. It was almost like

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he was just shy of being free. M So I
know now that that beyond the shadow of a doubt,
that magic is real. Yeah, I can do this every day.
You realize that if I did this every day for
a year, I could buy a Lamborghini, which was the

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car I wanted, a Lamborghini cantush Or if I did
it every day for almost three years, I'd be a millionaire.
And I thought, I'm a genius. No one knows this
works but me. Everyone in school is just blindly walking
through doing their stuff, doing the stuff they're told to do,

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not realizing there's a whole new world out there they
don't even know exists. My Baptist preacher doesn't know it's real.
My parents don't know it's real. And I have powers
that no one else has. I'm a superhero. I am
a superhero now at this point, I have the powers

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to do anything I want to do, and no one
else can do this now. At eleven years old, I
became the victim of a sexual assault at school the
hands of a female teacher. She told me of what
happened is, I got a note to go to the bathroom.
My teacher didn't want to give it to me because

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she says, you had three minutes to make it for
whatever your class was to hear. Why couldn't you go
to the bathroom in that time? It's because I was
at pe which is on the far side of the school,
and you're over here on this side of the school building.
And in three minutes, I have to come inside, take
a shower, change my clothes, and run here. How I

(22:39):
found to go to the bathroom. So she asked how
many other people had to do that same thing. Well,
the whole room, everybody put up their hands, and she said,
how many people here went to the bathroom. One girl
raised her hand and said, I peeve in the shower.
And so it was like, you know, we have forty

(23:03):
nine fifty kids per classroom, and nobody went to the
bathroom except her in the shower. So she gave me
a note to go down there, told me not to
play around, just go use the bathroom. Come back. So
I go to the bathroom. I open the door and
it's like a horror movie. I opened the door and
there's heavy breathing in the bathroom. I look under all

(23:26):
the stalls. There's no feet on the floor, but I
can hear somebody panting in the bathroom. So there's nobody
standing at the store at the urinals. I take a
step in. I open a stall door. Nobody there. Open
a stall door, nobody there. Open a stall door, nobody there.

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Last stall is a handicapped stall. But I've already checked
under the stalls. There's no feet. I opened the stall door.
There's a female teacher sitting on the toilet. Her skirt
is hyped up to her waist. She's doesn't have any
underwear on, and what she has looked like she was

(24:07):
wounded somehow. No sex education, no idea what a vagina
is that she has one and what it's for. I
had no idea. It just looks like somebody stabbed her,
a sliced her, don't know. And then she orders me
to come in and latch the door behind me. So
I do that, and then she has me come closer

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to her. She unzips my pants pulls my pants and
underwear down, orally sodomizes me, and then has me lay
on the floor and she gets on top of me.
Then when she's done, she tells me that this was
my idea, I clearly wanted to do it, that I
enjoyed it. She said that feeling you just got that

(24:53):
means you enjoyed it. And if you tell anybody, you'll
be expelled from school. Your parents would kick you out
of the house, You'll be arrested and taken to prison.
And when you get out. Now, they made all this
sound like it would all happen in the same year
when I got out of prison. I would not be
allowed to go to school. I wouldn't be allowed to

(25:15):
move back home. I would have to get a job,
pay my own rent, pay all my utilities, buy my
own groceries, all of that, and I'd have to grow up.
But remember I'm eleven years old, so I'd have to
just become an adult at eleven years old. And she
made it sound like my life would totally suck. And

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then she had me get dressed and kicked me out
of the bathroom, and I walked back to the room,
and the teacher in there asked me, because I've been
gone for about a half an hour. She asked me
if I had fun in the bathroom. And I didn't
know if that meant, I know, you went down there

(25:57):
to pee and you just played around for or that
meant she knew that teacher was waiting for me, and
she wants to know I had fun with that teacher,
and I just said no, and I sat down, didn't
say anything. Now keep in mind that I never peeed.
I didn't pee it and washed my hands and knew anything.

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So that's the last class of the day. So now
I've got to go home. I'm walking home and I've
still got to pee. But I'm scared to go to
any bathroom in the school because she might still be there.
She might be in a different bathroom. I don't know.
So I walk home. On my way home, I peed
my pants. When I got home, I put my stuff

(26:40):
in the dirty clothes Emperor and just hope my mother
didn't say anything to her. She didn't. And then that
nan I took the hottest shower I could possibly take more.
I took a bath and it was scalding hot, and
I'm just trying to get twained and then there was
a while during that time that I thought about taking

(27:02):
a bath and pure bleach. I thought about drinking bleach,
but I read the label on the back and said,
maybe fatal or swallow. I'm not looking to kill myself.
I'm just looking to get clean. And I thought bleach
would clean me from the inside out. And you know,
I just I felt less than a human. I didn't

(27:25):
know really what had happened to me, but I didn't
feel like. I didn't feel deserving of anything. I felt
abandoned by God. I felt God didn't love me. And
even though my dad gave me a house at night,

(27:46):
I couldn't really feel his love for me. And I
couldn't tell anybody what happened. You know, I knew that
if I told my dad what would happened to me
kick me out of the house, I'd be arrested and
wouldn't be allowed to go to school and lose all
my friends. So I just I was alone. I just
withdrew into myself. The only thing that made me feel

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like I was somebody that was doing magic, because every
magic spell I did worked. It may not have worked
for exactly what I wanted, but it worked on some level,
so I just continue to just go further into magic.
And then when I was twelve years old, there was
a kid that used to play campaigns of D and

(28:30):
D with us when I was ten, and he stopped
going to school, stopped going to church, stopped playing D
and D with us, and we just assumed he moved away.
When I was twelve years old, he came back and
he started going to church and going to school and
playing D and D with us, And he told us
that he didn't move anywhere. He was homeschooled, and he

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went to church and home and he was trained to
do something, and we never asked what he was trained
to do. But it turns out what he was trained
to do is to be a Satanic recruiter for children. And
so he told us that there was a group that
played D and D that also believes magic is real. Well,
I know it's really, so I don't even check these

(29:12):
guys out. At my house, we had a twenty six
inch console TV. I don't know how old you are,
I'm fifty nine, so console TV is a pretty fast
I remember those.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
I was born an eighty so I remember them.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
So it comes in a giant wooden box and I
just fell on you kill you, you know, if you're
all kid. My mom made me take everything off of
it every Saturday and polish it. You know, it was
a piece of furniture in the house, so you know,
we would have that. But over there they had a

(29:51):
fifty inch projection screen TV. You know, I had an Atari,
the original Atari, who dubbed a black and white TV
and my bedroom. You know, you tell that the kids
today and they're like, what a black and white what? So,
you know, But but over there they had a Atari
booked up to their fifty inch projection screen, which was

(30:14):
very stupid to do back then, but they still did it.
And you know, at my house during the summers, you
could have there emails a day and the snack if
my mom was in a good mood, and that snack
is going to be like a carrot stick or an
apple or a bowl of grapes or something. But over there,

(30:35):
if I wanted pizza, I could have it. When I
lived at home my entire childhood, I had five pizzas
and all of them were bought at the store. But
over there, you know, we had dominoes and down at
one point we had actual mom and bob those atinos.
You know. We had different places, so we could get

(30:56):
pizza anytime we wanted, but you could give burgers. We
got McDonalds once in a while at my house, but
it was like a rare treat, you know. But over there,
if I wanted McDonald's every day, I could do it.
They had a pantry that was filled with like twenty
or thirty boxes of candy. And I saw that and
I took like three bars out of it, and they said, oh,

(31:18):
you don't have to take three bars all at once.
Just go over there whenever you want one and take one.
I said, what if I'm taking twenty, like whatever you want,
just take them. You don't have to ask. Just go
over and open the door and take it out. No
one will say anything to you. There's no such thing
as taking too much. Like so I could eat an
entire box. They're like, if that's what you want to do,

(31:41):
and you might make yourself sick if you do that,
but you can do it. You know, we don't care.
You know, you do whatever you want to do. And
then I found out they told me. I don't know
how they knew, but they said, you know, you had
something happened to you last year. That was terrible. Should
have never had happened to anybody. But now you can

(32:02):
get your power back. Now you can do that anytime
you want. I'm thinking, I'm not sure I want to
do that again. And no one can make you do
it if you don't want to do it, but no
one can tell you know if you want to do it.
And they told me that they showed me movies that

(32:25):
I couldn't watch at my house. Like in my house,
you can watch a G rated movie. It's a lot
of Disney or a PG rated movie if it had
been vetted by my dad first. And that was it
as far as I knew. In my world, there was
nothing about TEG. And then they showed me an R

(32:46):
rated movie. I had no idea these movies existed. And
then they showed me an X rated movie. And then
they showed me a triple X rated movie. And when
they're doing this, room full of kids, we're all watching this.
And then they showed me a triple X rated movie

(33:06):
with kids in at my age. Now imagine this, So
you've got to go see a Harrison Ford movie at
the theater. And Harrison Ford is going to sit next
to you in the theater and describe the scenes to you,
the backstory behind every scene. Now, he might let you
just silently. I mean, if you want to just enjoy
the movie, that's fine. But Harrison Ford is there to

(33:29):
talk to you in case you want to ask him,
did you really do that? Stunners out of Stuff double?
Whatever you want to ask him, he's right there. So
you get to sit there with the actor from the
movie talking to you. So they put in a triple
X Born with kids in it, and those kids are

(33:51):
sitting all around me on the couch. I'm sitting in
the room with the movie stars that I'm watching. This
is my mentality, you know. Okay, Yes, I'm seeing a
pretty girl naked and she's sitting right there and she's
got a smile on her face and she's telling me,
watch me see what you think. Tell me what you

(34:12):
think of what I'm doing? Do you like that? Do
you like this? Do you like that act? What do
you think of this? And you know, you're twelve years old.
I've gotten hormones that have kicked in. You know, I'm
watching what's going on and it's making me excited in
many ways. And they asked me if I'd like to

(34:33):
star in movies like that, and I was like, I
don't know what to do. They're like, oh, that's fine,
we have somebody that can train you. And I was like,
I don't know, and they're like, we'll make you a
movie star. It's like, here, let's check out some of
the fan mail we get. And so they brought out

(34:53):
like a letter from Japan and it was written on
Like when I went school when I was in first grade,
the paper was wide, it was whiter than it was tall,
and the fat lines and you wrote with a really
fat pencil. Well, this ouded really fat lines and it

(35:14):
was like, you know, whiter than it was tall, and
it was written in crayon, and it looked like a
child had written into us. Now, in reality, this would
not have been a child. This porn was very expensive.
A child couldn't have afforded it. But it had to
have been an adult. And there would have to be
pedophiles watching this and you know, doing whatever they're doing

(35:37):
while they watched the video. But we didn't know the
word pedophile. We didn't know that there were perfects in
the world, and we didn't know that it's not children
writing into us because their misspelling words on purpose, I think.
And they're writing in crayon, so it's obviously a child.
And then it would say something like eighty eleven, you

(36:01):
know down at the bottom of it, or you know what, whoever.
It could be a male or female name, but they
would always write like age seven, age eleven, age twelve.
Nobody was over fifteen and so with and they pull
out multiple letters and be like one from Japan, one

(36:23):
from Germany, and you'd see on the envelope where it
came from, you know, so you'd see that it's coming
from Germany, it's coming from Japan, it's coming from France.
You know, there's all these places. And they'd have hundreds
of these letters. And so I wanted to be famous,
and I wanted to fit in, and they're offering me

(36:45):
a chance to fit in and be famous and do
these things with all these girls and that are all
around me. And so I was like, where do I
have to go? And so they handed me an envelope
we were sealed, and they asked me if I knew
a certain family. I said, yeah, I know. It's three

(37:06):
sisters and a brother and it's about a couple of
blocks from my house, and I know the woman. They
don't have a dad that lives there, and so they
told me to go there, bring the doorbell, hand them
this envelope. So I did that and the oldest girl

(37:27):
answered the door, took the envelope from me. They invited
me inside, and they opened the envelope up. She read
it and then she passed it on to other two sisters,
and then they invited me inside and they had Their
sisters were eight, eleven, and fourteen. So I was with
the old the eight year old first, and she trained

(37:49):
me for a couple of weeks, and then I graduated
to the eleven year old, and then I was in
bed with the eleven year old and I heard the
back door open up, and my heart stops because that's
how her mom comes home. She always parks in the
back and comes in the back door. And I'm terrified.
Now this woman is going to catch me and I'm

(38:10):
going to die. And she knocks on the door and
her daughter says, yeah, mom, and the door opens up,
and I'm scared to death. I can't move. I'm partially
under a sheet, but I'm clearly naked, and her daughter's naked,

(38:33):
and she asked, how's he doing, and she's like, he's
doing great, mom. He learned a lot with, you know,
the first sister, and he's gonna grab me graduate from
me in a couple of days, and then he'll go
on to the oldest sister and he's not going to
have to do much with her. He knows pretty much
what he's doing at this point. And she asked me

(38:55):
everyone to stay for supper, and I said, you'd have
to ask my dad. So she did know what. She
calls my dad, And I'm thinking at any point she's
gonna say, by the way, I just walked in on
your son naked with my eleven year old in case
you'd like to kill him instead of me. But she
never says anything like that. She just talks to my dad,

(39:17):
comes back and says, your dad says he can stay
till after supper. And then I told him we were
going to watch a little TV for about an hour
and he said that was fine, and just send you
home when you're done. I was like, okay, and she just,
you know, tells me to have fun and closes the door.
And so I asked the girl, I said, so your

(39:37):
mom knows that we're doing this. She goes, oh, yeah,
They had to clear it with her first, you know,
before we said, yes, we do this. Apparently her mom
got started in kitty born when she was three years old.
She had multiple abortions, and then at some point she
decided she wanted to keep her children. So she had

(39:59):
three daughters and Sun, and the Sun was now like
fifteen or sixteen or around that and wasn't interested in
being born anymore, so he stopped doing it. The oldest daughter,
I think, ran away from home when she was fourteen
and they didn't see her again. You know, I went

(40:19):
from the eleven year old of fourteen year old, and
I was with her a very short amount of time,
and then she was like, you don't need help any more.
You know what you're doing, you know everything. So then
I went back to the group and they started shooting
me there. We had multiple places to shoot, though not
all of them in the same town. But you know,

(40:42):
then I would appear on video and we made things.
We had still photos. We had loops, and a loop
is seven minutes. We had VIDs and bids are thirty
minutes roughly, and we had movies and those were like
an hour and a half, two hours, and then we
had compilation tapes which would be like four to six hours.

(41:04):
They were very expensive and they would be like one
type of sex for like four to six hours. And
clearly these are further its buying these, but that never
occurred to me when I was a kid and I'm
shooting all these and I'm like, people would write in
and they'd say they'd want the the nerdy kid because

(41:27):
in a lot of the movies, I had nerd glasses
that everywhere that they had me wear as a prop,
or they wanted to see the dark kid. All the
kids in this thing are white except me, so they're
saying they wanted the darker kid. My name was Tommy.
In the films. They wanted Tommy to form with a
Little bit or with Skita Bites or whatever the name

(41:49):
was on the screen of who they saw, you know,
that's who they wanted, you know, in the videos. So
then we would have future movies where we would act
out whatever they're wanting to see with me, with whoever
they were wanting me to be with. And I'm thinking,
I'm the luckiest kid in the world. I mean, I know,
at school on Monday. All the boys that come back

(42:13):
on the weekend talk about sex they had on the weekend.
You know they weren't having sex. You know, they would
just make it up lives to make themselves look bigger
and madder than what they were. But I was really
having sex something again. But I knew better than to
say anything to anybody. Was what if somebody believed me

(42:34):
and told my dad, or believe me and call the cops.
I don't want anything to happen now, speaking of cops,
we were in a town called South Bay, who was
very close to where I lived, about twenty miles away,
and we were in a building where we're going to
be shooting some porn. But I'm not shooting anything that day.

(42:57):
I'm just a runner or a gopher that day. So
we have all of our film equipment, sound equipment, lighting
equipment is in this one room, and they keep sending
me there and telling me what they need. There's also
a girl in the room that's laying on a cot naked.
She's black, I guess she's really dark, and she doesn't

(43:20):
speak English like. I came into the room and I
spoke to her, and she spoke to me in a
foreign language. I knew it wasn't Spanish because my mom
was Hispanic and she wasn't Spanish, So I don't have
any idea what she said. But I'm running out of
the room every time. I'm running in there, grabbing what
they want, running back out. And there's a line of

(43:44):
men that goes all the way to the door that
are having sex with this little girl. And there's one
man after another. Eventually a woman comes in, ties a
tourniquet on her arm and gives her a shot, which
you know, to me, just medicine of some kind. And
so I watched that, and then I grabbed some stuff

(44:04):
and run out. And then a little later I came
in the room to grab something out of her eyes.
Her rolled back in her head. She's drooling, and she
looks like she might be dying or dead, and these
men are still coming in there to have sex with her.

(44:24):
I run out and I say, what's going on? So
they come in the room, they stop the line of men,
they come in, they check her. She's dying. They then
announced this to the men that are lined up. There's
still a few left, and they said, well, we're already
paid and we still have sex with her like, oh yeah,
you can still keep going. So she had sex with

(44:48):
like another two or twelve men after she was dead.
Then a police car shows up. This is about three
hours later, so there's no men up at a dead
corpse now. But the cop shows up and I run,
I get somebody, and I said, there's a cop outside.
I don't know why. And so they came to the door.

(45:09):
Open it up, Let this cop inside. He walks to
the room and there's this little throw rug on the floor,
so he grabs the body. He checks it for a pulse,
doesn't find anything, throws her into the throw rug and
wraps her up in it, throws it over his shoulder
and tells him I'll get rid of the body. And

(45:30):
he said, I'll give good of everyone, and he walked out,
put it in his car and drove away. So you know,
I'm thinking, all right, so we have the cops with us,
which was really really bizarre, but you know, okay, that's happening.

(45:51):
And then also when I was twelve years old, this
older kid ran up to me one day and he goes,
you know you're in a Satanic coven, right, And I
burst out and he ran off, and after about two
weeks though, I was out of sleepover one night and
I saw these people in black robes and ask them
what they were doing, and they just got up walked away.

(46:12):
So I was like, oh, that's kind of suspicious. And
then you know, and after about two weeks, I was thinking, Okay,
now we were taught to Baptist Church that Jesus defeated
Satan two thousand years ago, so he's no threat now,
and that Satan is afraid of the Baptist Church. So

(46:37):
if these things are true, then Satan's afraid of me.
That's why he gives me everything I want. Satan is
not the bad guy my parents and my Baptist preacher,
or the Noebodings. Anything I want to do, The answer
is no, Dad. There's a new movie coming out on Friday.
Can I go see it?

Speaker 2 (46:56):
No?

Speaker 3 (46:57):
Dad? The moody Blues are going down? Can I go
see him? No? After a while, you just dad, Can
I know? Dad? No? After why you just look at
my dad? No? But anything I wanted to do over there.
You know, we're going to go see a new movie
on Saturday. And then Saturday night when I go see
the movie Blues play. You know, anything I wanted to

(47:19):
do was yes, do no matter how it was and
what it was. If it was a little dangerous, we
could still do it. I wanted to go on airbow
rides so bad my dad would never take me because
it was too dangerous. I went on multiple arbow rides.
There was so much fun. Every last one of them.
There's a giant cage that's too small for you to

(47:39):
stick your hand or foot or face into the blade,
so you're not in danger there as long as you
don't stop in an alligator infested area. They're not going
to climb into the boat either. So you know, everything
seemed okay. You know, it didn't seem to be dangerous,
and it was a lot of fun. So everything I

(48:02):
want to do, the answer is yes, you know so.
But two weeks into it, I was like, and this
was not not two weeks into my Satanism, but two
weeks into that kid telling me it's a Satanic coven
going to somebody I trusted, and I said, hey, you're
want to laugh. I heard this was a Satanic coven,

(48:22):
crazy right, And I expected him to laugh at me
on the back and tell me to go play, but
instead he said it is and my heart sunk into
my stomach and I stammered out, Am I a member? Yet?

Speaker 2 (48:38):
No?

Speaker 3 (48:39):
Would you like to be? Okay? Now, people when I
talk at conferences, theyre like, didn't you know right from wrong? No?
The lines were kind of blurred. And I'm having sex
all the time. Anytime I want, I see a pretty girl,
I go up and ask her, Hey, let's do this,

(49:01):
and she's like okay. Sometimes we go back in a
bedroom sometime to do it in front of everybody. You know,
I'm addicted to porn. I'm addicted to sex. I'm addicted
to masturbation. You got to be eighteen to buy porn.

(49:22):
I'm twelve. If I quit this Covent, I'm gonna stop
being in my movies. I'm gonna stop being famous. I'm
gonna stop having sex, at least on the weekend. Sometimes
every day. I'm smoking cigars, cigarettes, pipes, bongs. I'm taking

(49:46):
all kinds of drugs. You gotta be nineteen to smoke,
na buy tobacco. I also don't know how to buy drugs.
I get all my drugs here for free, and I'm drinking.
My mom would give me. My parents had an ice

(50:07):
cream shop, so we had these cups anywhere from ten
ounces up to forty something elses forty eight ounces, so
my mom would give me like a twenty four hours cup.
Fill it without jay. I'd walked to school, but it
was about halfway done. I would pass a friend's house
and get some vodka in there. Now school with a

(50:31):
twenty four hours cub half and half the lid on
it in a strong I'm drunk in school, but teachers
don't know that because I'm drunk every day at school,
so I look normal now. I might play pe later
and throw up, but I'm a fat, nerdy kid of course.

(50:51):
Or of course I'm want to throw up when I
played Pe, so it wasn't shocking. Nobody ever checked my
vom to see, hey, wait, that's vodka, you know. And
so I'm doing all this, But you got to be
twenty one to buy booze. I'm still twelve. Okay, If

(51:11):
I want to join, what do I have to do?
They said, there's thirteen steps to joining a Satanic coven,
and you've done almost all of them already. All you
have left to do you have to slice your left
thumb and bleed onto a document, and you have to
sign it in three places in your own blood. The
blood of Jesus washes away all sin, but not mine.

(51:35):
And I signed my name to that. Jesus died for everyone,
but not me, and I sign my name to that.
And on the final page of a five page document,
I agreed to sell my soul to the devil. Oh.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (51:49):
Now, when I'm at my talks, I ask, I stop
my talk, and I ask, how many people here believe
you can sell your soul to the devil? So let
me ask you, do you believe you can sell your
soul to the devil.

Speaker 2 (52:03):
I personally don't believe it's yours to sell, but that's
my own opinion.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
But you are correct. You cannot sell what you do
not own. Jesus died for you. God paid the ultimate
price for your soul. You don't own it, you can't
loan it, you can't lease it, and you certainly cannot
sell it. You might have heard that Satan is a liar.

(52:32):
I am here to confirm if Satan says good morning,
get a second opinion, right, But again, not the sharpest
marble in the bag. So I agreed all the things
in that document I said yes to, and I signed
it away in blood, and I believed I was bamned.

(52:55):
But I mean, I'm twelve years old. I am I
going to die when I'm like a hundred, Well, I've
got ninety years to change my mind. I've got ninety
years trying to break that contract. That the downside to

(53:16):
that mentality is that you don't know when you're gonna die. No.
I I saw a Final Destination that girl pused out
a friend and stepped off the curve and got by
a bush. That's That's the best death in the movie.
I thought, just steps off the curve. Bam, And I
was like, WHOA. So have you seen Final Destination six?

(53:42):
That was a that was a fun one. So I
just saw it this weekend. So, you know, not knowing
when I'm going to die and figuring that I've got
ninety years to change my mind. You know, I agreed
to all this stuff. So I come into a room
instead of a farmhouse pretty much out in the middle

(54:05):
of nowhere, and I'm in a white robe signifies you're
losing your innocence, and they baptize me full submersion in
a demon's head vat that's filled with human blood, pig's
blood and human urine, full submersion. You come up, You

(54:28):
go into another room and you take a shower, and
you change out of the white robe. You put on
a black robe and you raise the cowl up, signifying
you've been baptized into a world of darkness. You come
into a room and you sit in a wooden chair,
and they hand you a wheel. It's about thirteen inches
across and then has a cruise fix on it. You

(54:49):
spend the crucifix upside down, signifying human sacrifice, and then
you grab the arms and break them downward, denouncing Christ.
You're left with looks like a peace sign. They read
the document you signed previous, and then they intertwine it
with this document, and now there's a celebration that you're

(55:13):
now a Satanist. But the reality is you're now celebrating
that one day you're going to die and go down.
And at this point people are given the black robe
you come out in is not your final black robe.
That black robe is just black. The final black robe

(55:35):
is a black robe that has a cowl on it
and it has a red inverted pentagram on it. But
that also wasn't the robe I wanted. There's a red
robe that has a black inverted it, and that's the
robe of the Mage, and the Mage is the official

(55:55):
magic practitioner of the Covenant. Now, if you were a mage,
you were seven years old, which there was one. If
you the seven year old speaks just gibberish and nonsense
out of his mouth. Whatever he says, it's like the
dumbest stuff you could possibly say. Do you know what
I saw in Barney today? Now we didn't have Barney

(56:17):
back then. It's just I watched Gilligan's Island on the weekend.
This is the episode, you know, and then he tells
some stupid stuff that Yillan did. But when he became
the Mage, everything out of his mouth was wisdom. Everybody
listened to it. He could say anything. If when he

(56:37):
said it before he was the Maid, he would be like,
go play, you know, that's nonsense, go watch TV. But
now that he's the Mage, everybody listens, everybody obeys. And
I wanted that power. I wanted whatever I said to
matter to be important, even though I'm I also be

(57:00):
talking about Gilligan's Islands. I want it to be important
when it comes out of my mouth. And when I
became the Mage, it became so now I got to
do magic spells. You do the official magic of the coven,
and I love magic. Magic was so much fun to me.
I couldn't understand why people didn't do magic. You could

(57:22):
accomplish so much stuff by doing that instead of working
hard for it. Just to do a magic spell. When
you want a new car, don't work for ten years
to be able to afford to buy a new car.
The a magic spell a couple of times, Boom, look
you've got the money for the car. So I'm doing that.

(57:45):
I officially joined my Satanic coven when I was thirteen,
and I'm the mage. I'm having a great time. When
I was fourteen, they told me that I was going
to participate in a sex orgy, which was not any
big deal because I did those all the time. But
it's going to be me and all the boys that

(58:08):
are twelve to fifteen years old, and we're going to
have sex with a nineteen year old girl and the
purpose was to make her pregnant. And then about nine
months later, she's going to have an abortion. And I
was like cool. Final they said I was going to
be participating in the abortion. I was like cool, And
then I went home to look up what abortion meant,

(58:29):
because I didn't know. Now. What I did know about
the word abortion is that it was a dirty word
because my mom one day whispered it to my dad,
and if she's whispering it, it's got to be dirty.
But my dictionary was so old it didn't have the
word abortion in it. So I went to the library

(58:50):
and I found two books on abortion, and both were
like two inches thick. I'm making it through school on
cliff notes. I am not reading two inches to find
out one words definition. So I went back to a
coven member that I liked to trust it, and I said, hey,
I heard that I've got to anticipate in a sex origin.

(59:11):
He goes, yeah, that'll be fun. I was like, yeah,
she's pretty. But they said I've got to do an
abortion almost nine months from now. I don't know what
that means. He goes, oh, you're killing a baby in
the womb, and my jaw dropped. I was like, is
that legal? He goes, oh, yeah, in the womb legal.
Out of the wom murder. Okay. So they gave me

(59:34):
a scalpel and they told me to practice with an
apple or an orange or a ball of Plato. But
then I was also told it's not a real baby,
it's just a clump of cells or some tissue. Most likely.
Of what's going to happen, I said, they'll stick a
vacuum tube in her and just suck the baby out.

(59:56):
You know, it'll just be like a little embryo. It's
not a Babyorry about it. You're not going to see
anything for real. So that's what I expected for nine
months when the event took place. We have a group
of women nude, kneeling on the floor, chanting our bodies ourselves.

(01:00:17):
We have a group of men at the far end
of this farmhouse praying to Satan to keep police and
bad people away from us. But again I'm thinking, why
are they trying to keep the police away if we

(01:00:37):
have the police in our back pocket. And then we've
got oh, we've got a separate room, separate from the
entire group, And it's a bunch of little kids, and
the little kids have to stay up as late as
they can, and the one that stays up the longest
it's like a free video game console. And you're trying

(01:00:59):
to stay up three am, which is what time our
spell is taking place, which midnight is the witching hour.
At three am is the Devil's hour. Do you have
any idea why it's name that? Why is it? It's
named the Devil's hour because Satan cannot create anything new

(01:01:21):
and original, He can only mock God. Three pm is
Divine Mercy hour. That's the hour Jesus died, So three
pm is known as divine mercy hour. Three am is
the Devil's hour. So at three am we have thirteen

(01:01:45):
high priests and priestesses around this table. The woman is
laying on the birthing bed. There's an abortion doctor and
an abortion nurse and full abortion equipment there. I remember,
I'm not expecting to see a real baby. I've been
told it's a lump of cells or some tissue and

(01:02:05):
they're going to stick this vacuum tube binner and sub
this little embryo out. I don't know what an embryo is,
and it's like a little tiny baby or something. But
they said, not a baby. You're not going to see anything.
So they do a late term abortion. It's been it's
about three months to me turning fifteen, and they deliver

(01:02:28):
the baby breach, so the head is still inside the woman.
The body is outside the woman. It's a little girl,
and I'm looking at this like this is a baby.
If you delivered this, it would be fine. And then
they perform a late term abortion, which i'll spare your

(01:02:50):
listeners into what that is, but if you were there
in person, it'd be the grossest thing you've ever seen.
And then they dismember the body and throw it out
to the women on the floor cannibalized I and then
we have a giant sex orgy, and then they sneak

(01:03:15):
me home. I have my bedroom is that there's like
a building right next to another building and there's like
maybe a foot and a half between them. So I
would get home, go into that little alleyway open. I
have these large jalousy windows and the screen just pops out,

(01:03:39):
So I would open the bottom window, pop the screen out,
climb inside, close the window, put the screen back in place.
My parents would never know that I wasn't in there
the whole night, and at that time, my brother was
in my same room. My brother's special needs. The plus
thing about my brother is that he's not a tattle tit.

(01:04:01):
He's not a nark. If he saw me do something
like that, he would never tell unless I said, don't
tell Mom and Dad you saw me do this, then
he would tell that'd be the first thing out of
his mouth. Mom, I saw Zachary climb through the window
this morning. I learned that while I was three years old,

(01:04:22):
not to do anything and tell him not to say it,
just so tell on me. But I also learned if
I didn't say that, he wouldn't tell him. He wouldn't
say anything, so I could climb in at like, I've
been there the whole night, and I might be really
tired when my dad wakes me up. You know, I'm

(01:04:43):
exhausted from the night before. You know, He's like, why
are you so tired? I had a hard time falling asleep.
Next time, wake me up, I'll make us a warm
milk or something. Okay, So not suspicious at all that
I had not been home entire night. Never checks on

(01:05:03):
us during the night, you know, clearly, you know we
get up there on the night to go to bathroom,
so clearly we're home. So you know, I'm just I'm
going through I'm getting ready to graduate high school, and
I want to go find a Satanic coven when I graduated.
But I mean, it's not like we're going to advertise

(01:05:25):
in the town square. We don't have the internet back then.
Back then, the ways you could find a satanic coven
if you went to like an adult bookstore and you
got a swingers magazine, now not a professional grade swingers magazine,
like a mom and pop swingers magazine. In the back

(01:05:47):
of it are a bunch of ads, and one of
the ads would be for a satanic coven. But I
don't know if you've ever been to one of those places,
but they're easy. Usually people sitting out in their cars
adding to whatever porn they just and if you got
too close to the car, you'd see everything because I
and then the bad part isn't that you'll see everything,

(01:06:11):
it's that everybody sees you. Right. So I don't want
to be seen by the people in the party lot.
I also don't want to be seen by the people
inside the store. What if I opened that door of
my Baptist preacher's coming out the door. I'm not thinking, aha,
I caught you. I'm thinking, aha, he caught me. So

(01:06:33):
I don't want to go to the porn store. But
I don't know where else we advertise. And but when
I started to school, I found it because they advertised
it in the town square. You know, they had the
Baptist in the Catholic student union and the Democrat and

(01:06:55):
the Republican student union, and the Satanic and the wick
in student Union. I was like, whoa. So I went
to that a couple of times. And this is a
bunch of kids away from home for the first time
with no adult supervision, and they think that Satan is
all about getting drunk, getting high, having sex. I've been

(01:07:21):
doing that since I was twelve. I don't need a
Satana covin for that anymore. And they make up magic
spells on the spot. I'm gonna slam this beer in
one goal. I'm gonna twirl it above my head three
times and throw it across the room, and if it
lands in the garbage can, I'm gonna get a brand
new truck tomorrow. Wow, that's not a magic spell. And

(01:07:46):
then our meetings will be on Saturday. Guess what they
did on Sunday. They went to church, not to break
up the church. They went to church because this is
just a club meeting. And Sunday we had to get
sanctified so we can do all this regular stuff all

(01:08:06):
during the week Saturday, I'm going to get drunk and
smoke some weed and have sex again and then go
to church on Sunday and get sanctified again. Start Over
isn't what I'm looking for. This is not a real
Satanic coven. So I called my first group back and
I was like, hey, during the summer, I read a
book and I just read it for entertainment purposes. But

(01:08:31):
in the book they talked about a place called Bohemian Grove.
I don't know if it's real or not supposed to
be in California. And they talked about a group called
the Illuminati again, never heard of them, don't know what
that is. And they talked about a Satanic coven that
was gigantic. Where can I find them? Who is that?

(01:08:55):
And they said, that's the World Church of Satan or
Satan's World Church, two different names, same covin. I give
your phone number. You got to tell them your real
name because when you get there, they're gonna look at
your ID. It's got to match. It doesn't match, they
will let you in the door. I was like, okay,
I wouldn't have even thought of giving a fake name.

(01:09:17):
So and they said, just wait for their phone call
and then just do whatever it is they tell you
to do. Okay, So I call this number and it's
just an answering machine and so I leave my name
and my phone number and tell them. They said, say
that you came from us. So you know, I name
drawp that And I waited a few days and I

(01:09:40):
got this call and the guy tells me to bring
my license. Drive there, but you go to have to
park about two miles away. It's going to be a
giant party, and it's like in a building about the
size of a Super Walmart. I don't even know if
we had Super Walmart back then. I know we had Walmart.
But you know, he's like, come there and come in,
and you know, you'll see if this is what you

(01:10:02):
want to do. I was like, all right, So I
drive there. I find the building and he's right, I
can't park nearby, and so I drive about two miles
away and there's parking lots all the way and I
finally there's a guy there in a guard uniform. He
signals to me that I can pull in there. So

(01:10:23):
I pull in and I park and he goes all right,
and I just got to hook it down there and
I was like, I can't get a ride from anybody. No, okay,
and he goes, But your car is safe. You know,
there's security in all the parking lots. I was like, okay, fine,
So I walk two miles. I come into this this warehouse.

(01:10:44):
There's a door there. There's no doorbell. I knock on
the door. This guy opens the door, has for my
ID and then he checks his clipboard. Remember we didn't
have tablets or laptops or computers of any sort back then,
you know, checks the clipboard and he finds my name,
checks me off, has me come inside, gives me my

(01:11:07):
ID back. You go around this big, heavy, dark curtain.
When you move that out of the way, that's that
big dark curtain sound muffling because it's like a giant party.
Inside there's tables filled with like snacks like chips and
crackers and soda. Then there's other tables that actually have pizza,

(01:11:28):
and other tables that have big sandwiches and stuff on it.
There's a table that has soda. From the first table,
there's another table it's just pure soda and salsa, water
or bottles of water. Then there's another table that has beer.
There's another table with hard liquor. There's another table that
has like weed and mushrooms. There's another table that has

(01:11:52):
cocaine and heroin. Whatever your choice, whatever your flavor is,
that's what they got. Then, as it go further in,
there's recliners and regular chairs and tables, couches where a
lot of people are sitting and talking. There's a dance
floor with a DJ. There's a band playing. Further in

(01:12:12):
the building. In the very back of the building, in
the far right corner is five or six giant beds
and bigger than king sized beds. They're all pushed together,
and there's a bunch of naked people, men and women
on these beds having sex, and they invite me to join. Now,

(01:12:33):
this would have been like nineteen eighty four, the AIDS
epidemic was in full bloom. I am not playing Russian
Roulette tonight. So I walked away and I sat down
in a recliner. There's a bunch of people all around me.
So I start talking to some guy and we're just

(01:12:56):
having a regular conversation, but about Satanism and about the
cove and he belonged to and the coven I came from.
And this guy walks past us. Now, let's go back
to me being about thirteen years old. I'll sleepover and
one night I got up to go to the bathroom
get a drink of water. So I'm walking through the house.

(01:13:17):
I see this guy wearing a tuxedo, got a top hat,
on's carrying a wand, and he's got a corporse spring
on his face. But to me at thirteen, he looked
like a member of Kiss wearing a tuxedo, and I
thought that is the coolest look ever. And he sees

(01:13:37):
me and he winks at me, and he walks into
the kitchen. I went to the bathroom, I got my
drink of water, and then I'm thinking I should go
into the kitchen and see who that is, But I don't.
I didn't just go back to bed and go to sleep.
And then the next day I asked him, Hey, I
was in the house this morning. I went to the
bathroom and got a drink water, and I saw this guy,

(01:14:01):
you like a member of Kiss, swing a tuxedo. Who
was that? They? So you dreamed that that didn't really happen. Okay,
so my God's gonna lie to me. Now, I'm let's
store that in the back of my head, and one
day I'm gonna find out. So one day happened when
I was eighteen. I'm at this party and I see

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this guy. Now it's not the same guy, but it's
the same costume, tuxedo, top, bad bond, pork spain on
his face. If you want to know what that looks like,
go to the video Pink Like a Pill official video,
and the guy appears in her video four times. The

(01:14:44):
third and fourth time he's doing a spell. Now, somebody
sent me because there's another picture of Pink standing on
the red carpet with this guy, the High Wizard, and
it's a girl. Now there's actually there is an her
old female High Wizard. So she's standing on the red

(01:15:05):
carpet a side wizard. And then somebody else sent me
a group of photos. It's like five or six photos, honey,
how many was it? Oh? Close to ten photos? And
Ink and the High Wizard are at a VH one

(01:15:26):
Awards show, and so it's like she knows the High Wizard.
The High Wizard is with her in the video and
on the red carpet and at this VH one Music
Awards show. So I see this guy walking past me

(01:15:48):
and the guy that was sitting next to me. I
grabbed him and I was like, who is that? What
is that? How can I do that? And he goes, well,
who ran your covet? I said, We're a huge covin.
We had like one hundred and ten to one hundred
and fifty members at any given time. We had thirteen
high priests and priestesses and the majors do the official magic.

(01:16:12):
He was, okay, well, we have one point one million
members worldwide and we're run by a CEO and a
board of directors and high wizards do our official magic.
That was a high wizard and I was like, how
can I do that? He says, all I know is

(01:16:34):
that you have to give Satan's attention, and if you
get Satan's attention, you can be the high wizard. Okay,
now we're going somewhere because I know abortion is a
Satanic sacrifice, and abortion gets his attention. You want something
and you can't figure out how to get it. You

(01:16:56):
go to a Satanic coven and you pay them a
certain amount of money, which is usually lots, and then
you ask them for a hex and in a hex
an abortion comes with it. Now if you're going to
do a spell. In Satanism, a very basic spell. An

(01:17:17):
easy spell would be like the Evil Eye putting the
Evil Eye curse in somebody, But in reality, that's like
kicking someone in the shins. The next level up of
a curse is equivalent of boken them in the eye.
The next level up of a curse is punching them

(01:17:39):
in the gun. Now, if you do something a little
more heinous than that, you're kicking somebody in the most
But each level of curse takes the attack up. Anne
putting a hex on somebody and doing an abortion is
dropping on atomic bomb on them. Whatever you're trying to do,

(01:18:02):
you're going to get. It's not going to be a
question of is that going to happen? It's win is
it going to happen? So, and when you're cursing somebody,
When people think of curses, they think, well, you've got
to have an altar. You've got to have a skull
on it. You've got to have at least three different

(01:18:23):
colored candles. You've got to have a knife. You've got
to have a parchment, you've got to have a quill,
you've got to have incense. You've got to have whatever
the little ingredients a certain account rooment you need for
your particular spell. But you're looking at a spell wrong.
You're looking at a curse wrong. In a curse, a

(01:18:44):
satanist or a witch praise to Satan to attach a
demon to you. So let's say it's a one shot deal.
The witch goes in, does a spell, ends one demon
to you one time. It's just a one shot curse.

(01:19:04):
The demon goes to you, but you're going to stay
to grace, so he can't attach if you're gonna state
of grace. He can't attach if you're not gonna stay
of grace. He latches on. So he goes to you,
but you're in a state of grace. So the demon leaves.
He doesn't come back a second time. He doesn't even
wait five minutes, and you know, just to check. No,
he goes once and he leaves. Let's say it's a

(01:19:25):
try curse though, even comes to you today at noon. Oh,
you're gonna stay in grace, and he leaves, but he
comes back in six weeks, comes at four pm. You're
still in a state of grace. He leaves, and then
he comes back in a year, comes in at midnight
but you're still in the state of grace. He leaves,
he's not gonna bother. He was hired for three, he's

(01:19:47):
not coming back for four. And he doesn't check in
between the times that you've already set for him to go,
because if you'd have done that, he has probably caught
you not in the state of grace. All it takes
is one sin. You're not in the state of grace.
So but let's say that a hex is done instead.
So when a hex is done, demon goes to you.

(01:20:09):
An abortion was done goes to you if you have
a state of grace. So the demon thinks to himself,
no problem, I'll wait. The demon hangs out with you,
and let's say you are the greatest Christian in the world,
you almost never sin. Three years from now, you're driving
a traffic and somebody cuts you off and for some reason,

(01:20:33):
it really fisses you off, and you roll down your
window and you flip them off, and you cuss them out,
and you take the Lord's name in vain. And now
you're in a state of old sin. And the demon
goes aha and attaches to you, and now you have
a demonic curse. But you may not know it for years.

(01:20:55):
You may not realize it until you have children or grandchildren,
when you really there's a pattern to everybody's life, like
every third daughter gets an abortion, every firstborn son commits suicide.
And you realize this that it happened to your kids,

(01:21:15):
and it happened to your grandkids, and now you're starting
to realize, wait a minute, am I cursed in some way?
So if you realize that, you need to get deliverance,
if possession has occurred, you need exorcism. But some people
never realize it. They go their entire life with a curse.

(01:21:38):
Now I have a test and telling people that I
have this test. Now I have eight hundred plus emails behind,
I'm two hundred plus text messages behind. I'm two hundred
plus WhatsApp messages behind, probably two hundred phone calls behind.

(01:22:02):
And I had a conference about a month ago. It
was a exorcism and deliverance spiritual warfare conference. And my
line went out in the door for the entire conference
until when the conference was over, we all got kicked
out of the auditorium. And then I still had a

(01:22:23):
line outside from me for two or three hours before
I could leave. And then everybody emails me, and I
have a test that I can send people. It's just
a written document, it's just a word dog and it
tells you what to do for the test, and then
you call me when you're done. And we discussed the

(01:22:44):
results of it. And basically the test is it's a
thirty day fast, and in that thirty day fast, you're
not fasting the whole thirty days, you know, don't. Don't
look at that and go, oh my gosh, I couldn't
do that. I'm diabetic. I couldn't fast for that. I
wouldn't be able to if if that's what it was
on the surface. You pick a four hour block of

(01:23:07):
time during the day. Now you do it every day
for thirty days, so you cannot eat or drink anything
four hours, but you've got the other twenty to do
whatever you want to do. Now, you can't do it
during regular sleeping hours because that's cheating. Well, let's say
you do it from ten am to two pm, so

(01:23:28):
you can eat up until ten and you can eat
and drink after two pm. So at two oh one
you can eat and drink, you know, and at nine
fifty nine you can eat drink. You just have four
hours that you can't do anything. Then you announce when
it starts, I am fasting for the next four hours

(01:23:50):
to find out if I have a curse. When the
four hours is up, you say, I fasted for the
last four hours to find out if I have a curse.
If you don't have a curse, you might have demons
all around you all the time, depending on where you are.
But if they're not attached to you, they don't care.

(01:24:10):
If you're fasting doesn't matter to them at all. Even
if you are fasting but you're not fasting for them
to find out. If they're attached to you, they don't care.
But if they are attached to you, they will attack
you to make you stop fast because they don't want you.

(01:24:30):
So if you get attacked, you have to write down
we'll attack you're getting you know, And some people don't
have any idea what that means. And I said, okay,
Let's say you came home last night and you had
a full tank of gas. You have a locking gas
cab and only you have to keep but you woke
up in the morning and you have a quarter tank

(01:24:51):
of gas. Where did the gas go? You came home
last night and your car was fine. You woke up
this morning you got four flat I'm going to say
you don't have four. Let's say you got one. But
your tires were fine last night. Suddenly you've got something
in your tire. Now here's where it gets really special.

(01:25:12):
You saw all your tires last night and there was
nothing sticking in them. You live in a gated community,
you live in a nice place. You wake up in
the morning and you have a screwdriver sticking out of
your tire that you know was not there yesterday. Suddenly
you have that. You have cameras on your property. Your

(01:25:35):
cameras don't show anything. They just suddenly there's a screwdriver
sticking in your tire. How did that happen? If it's
not demonic, if a demon didn't do it, how did
you get it? So you check all your results. I
had a woman that got this test about a month ago,

(01:25:56):
a little more now, I think, and she started to
In the first day, she injured her like like just
a routine injury, but it was so bad she can't
walk down. Then the next day she had something else happened.
I think. The third day she had something else happened,
and she called me and he emailed me and said

(01:26:17):
I got to stop that, this is what's happening. And
I was like, will you clearly have a curse? You know,
I've got other steps to find out how you got cursed,
you know, and then there's also steps to injure curse.
But you know, it gives you a thirty day window
at seeing our demons really have they really cursed you?

(01:26:41):
And some people don't get any attack. And it's funny
because the people that don't get any attack before they
got no attack. We're telling me, I know I'm cursed,
and I know my uncle did it. I know my
dad did it. I know my mom was evil. I
know she did it, you know, And they are positive
that this person at work is an evil bastard and

(01:27:03):
they know that he put this curse on them. And
then you do the test and you get zero attack.
Now it's not just zero attack, it's no attack above
what you normally get. So if you're not getting anything
out of the ordinary, any special attack, or if you
get none, you're not cursed. And I tell people you're

(01:27:28):
satanic attack. There's actually three possibilities. One is that you
have a curse, and that's what everybody thinks they am.
One is that God is doing these things. He's allowing
these things to happen to you to bring you closer
to Him. And one is that your life just sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:51):
Sometimes life just sucks, Zachary, I apologize, I have to
catch you off. We are at the end of our
normal time, but I'm going to extend us for another
thirty minutes because I know we didn't finish your story yet,
so I'd like to take the last thirty minutes to
close out your story and maybe get a couple of
questions and before we have to wrap up.

Speaker 3 (01:28:14):
Okay, all right. So I had escaped out of Satanism
when I was thirty three years old, and I was
so paranoiate about being caught. For one year I lived
off the grid. Two years back on the grid, I
had tried to get into Canada like three or four times,
and every time I tried, I got rejected, and I

(01:28:35):
finally I got rejected the final time. I ended up
in Burlington, Vermont, and I started off as a dishwasher,
then a bouncer there they call him a doorman, and
then I went from being a doorman into being head
of security, and then I got a job at another place,
and I was head of security, and then I went

(01:28:56):
to being the nighttime GM, and then I left that.
I went to retail, and I was a retail I
was the manager in training at Finish Line, and then
I was the GM at Sunglass Side, and then I
was the GM at Piercing Pagoda. So a store in
the mall sells gold and silver and stainless deal and

(01:29:17):
does piercings, and it's owned by Zales. So I'm doing that.
This woman comes in and she's going to buy a
pair of gold Hooperarians, and I present her with the
pair based on what she said that she lost, and
about to close the deal, and she goes, you know,
actually shopping with my daughter. And when I'm done, I'll
come back and I'll buy them. I've been a retail

(01:29:40):
manager now for a few years. I know that when
a woman says that, what she means is I'm going
to find it cheap for somepace else. But she's got
an honest face. I know she's really going to come back.
And she does this. Three hours later, she comes back,
she makes the purchase and I hand her the receipt
and I said, if you call this eight hundred number

(01:30:01):
on this receipt and take a survey. You might win
a thousand dollars. And she goes, that's great, I've got
something for you too. I'm thinking, oh no, she's gonna
pull out a Jack Chick pamphlet, tell me that I'm
sinning and he dropped on my knees and begged for forgiveness.
All this stuff I can't do because I sold my
soul to the devil when I was thirteen. But instead

(01:30:24):
she pulls out this cheap, gold colored piece of ten.
It's like this a little bitty oval. I mean, it's
so cheap that if you held it up to the light,
you see the light right through it. And then she says,
the weirdest thing I've ever heard. Now, I partied with
rock stars. I made about twelve hundred rock stars when
I was high wizard. And if you give somebody that

(01:30:48):
could write poetry and songs unlimited booze and drugs, they
will say some strange stuff. And if you're doubting that statement,
turn on a top station when you leave this interview
and just listen to any song, classic rock, new rock,
whatever you want to listen to. There's a song out

(01:31:09):
right now where a girl is singing about her new
NW Have you heard this song new new? Who is
the song NU knew? Who is a song about her? Vachina?
Or Katy Perry? I kissed a girl and I liked it?
Who cares? Or how about how about the song that
made Kid Rock a rock god when he first broke

(01:31:32):
out onto the scene. It was like the number one
song of the year and the video of the year.
But the lyrics are the dumbest in the world. Bowa
Toba to Dang to dang, diggy diggy up jumps the
boogie gum on. You know, we're idiots for liking that
and making it number one. So what this woman said

(01:31:52):
to me was dumber than that. It was crazier than that.
She said, the Blessed Mother is calling you into her army,
And I thought, Blessed Mother isis go? Yeah, I have
no idea. I was Baptist. Mary gave birth to Jesus.
What else did you do? Nothing? Because she gave birth

(01:32:13):
to Jesus. We didn't hear about Mary and Joseph and
Jesus fling to Egypt, And we didn't hear in the
Baptist church. I didn't know about Jesus' first miracle turning
water into wine because the Baptists don't drink, so we
never heard about that. I was Catholic whore. I found
out that that happened, and I was like, when did

(01:32:33):
that happen? I never heard that. They never read us
that verse. So, and why didn't those things happen? Because
all she did was con birth to Jesus. So we
don't have any titles. We don't call her a blessed mother?
Why not? I don't know, because it's in the Bible.
Why don't we call her mother of God? I don't
know because that's in the Bible too, So I'm not,

(01:32:56):
you know, realizing, you know, blessed mother. I don't know
who who that that is? And then she says it's
very powerful. I know the Protestants don't bless anything. So
this woman's got to represent some female deity cult and
I don't care because so many cults are connected. You
could belong to one coven in Germany and belong to

(01:33:17):
another coven in France, and you could be member of
that for thirty years before you find out they're connected,
you know. So I'm like, no, I don't want to
join her calls, and then she just starts talking on
and on on and just tune around. I go to
my happy place, and I'm thinking, how do they all
find me? There has to be a sign above my

(01:33:37):
head that only crazy people can see, and it says
crazy come here, and an arrow pointing down to me.
Because they all find me no matter where they are,
no matter where I am, craziest person in the room
will come up and talk to me. So she's just
going on and on, and finally I realize, you know,

(01:33:58):
I have her money. She made my day financially, she
has the gold. This was win win for both of us.
Why is she still talking to me? Can I tune
her back in? And she tells me, ken, it's very powerful.
No no, no, no, no no. I was the high Wizard.
There's generally between two and five of us in the world,

(01:34:21):
but the number could be as low as one or
as high as can And she's trying to tell me
that this blessed miraculous metal is stronger than me. There's
no power to this, there's no mistique to this. I'm
going to grab this and feel that it has nothing.

(01:34:43):
At that time, I could grab a feather and tell
you this was used in a protection spell. I could
grab an amulet and tell you this was used in
the death spot. I could grab something and tell you
your friend bought this at a second hand store and
made up a story about it. Nothing to it, there's
no attachment, and I stick my hand out for it.

(01:35:05):
She's all giddy, she's thrilled. I'm willing to take it,
and I'm gonna take it in my hand, squeeze it,
feel as there's nothing to it, and I'm gonna toss
it on the floor, slam it on my counter. I'm
gonna tell her it's worthless. And if she gets offended,
that's fine. Get offended. And if she wants to return

(01:35:26):
the goal and get her money back, I'll do that.
And if she wants to call my boss, which is
a regional manager and complain, I'll give her the original
manager's number, because my manager is not gonna believe I
insulted somebody to their face. She knows that I make
my days, my weeks, my month, my quarter, and my year.

(01:35:51):
I'm second to none in my sales. She's gonna think
she didn't like your haircut, she didn't like your tie,
she didn't like your cologne. But it's not you. It's
nothing personal to you. So I know I can insult
this woman to her face. There's nothing she can do
to me. I stick my hand out. She drops in

(01:36:12):
my hand, and I clench my fist around it, all
ready to tell her these things. Except when I clenched
my fist around it, my mall and my store completely disappear.
I'm standing in a darkened void, and this woman, mary
Anne Wickman, tells me about the magic spell I did
last night, and that's of the devil. And I've split

(01:36:35):
over one hundred churches and that's of the devil. And
I've committed over a hundred abortions, and that's of the devil.
She tells me about eight or nine other sins and
everything ends with and that's of the Devil. When I
first got here, I wanted to hit her with an
energy verse, knock her back, you know, come out of
this place that I'm in. But now let's go back

(01:36:58):
to me being the only one high wisdow out of
seven billion people. I didn't have the power to give
somebody a worthless gold colored piece of tin transport both
of us to a darkened void and know all their sins.
Her magic stronger than mine. I'm terrified. I don't know
what to do. I'm starting to panic. I'm sweating, and

(01:37:20):
she says again, Blessed Mother is calling you into her army.
And instantly, like a grace from the Holy Spirit, I
knew that the Blessed Mother was the Mother of God,
which is a very strange revelation for a former Baptist
to have. We would rather shoot ourselves in the face
of the shotgun than say Mother of God. And when

(01:37:42):
I realized that Mary appeared, this is the most beautiful
woman I've ever seen, and she smiled at me, and
it was a smile I knew I did not deserve.
I was acutely aware of my one hundred and forty
six assisted abortions all and she took me by the hand,

(01:38:03):
the hand that had the middle in it, and she
turned me around. Divine Mercy Jesus was standing behind me.
I didn't know what Divine Mercy was sent to. Rays
of light shooting out of his hearten and they were
going like around me and over me, and under me
and through me. And in that instant I knew I
did not sell my soul to the Double. When I

(01:38:24):
was thirteen, I knew that Jesus Christ was my word
and savior. I knew that all my occultism, my magic,
satanism in my new age is false. And I knew
everything Catholic, the truth and the blessed. Mother told me
that my job was to help her end a worship,
and then I opened my hand. In this moment, Mary

(01:38:46):
Anne Wicknes is still talking to me, and she tells
me that she works for Father Joseph Whalen Saint Raphael
Healing World Ministry at He's the busiest priest she knows,
and he doesn't even have time to talk to her,
and she's the personal assistant. While she's talking to me,
her cell phone rings. She looks down. She goes, well,
this is Father Joe. I've got to take it. Yeah,
you just explained overly. Go ahead, So she takes the

(01:39:08):
phone call. Father Joe back then was starting to go death,
so he talked like everybody was going deaf. So I
heard everything he said. Can you hand the phone to
the young man you're talking to? So she hands me
the phone. I'm shaking like Ozzy Osbourne. How am I hello?
Welcome to the faith and the phone back to Maria,
so I hand the phone back up on her. Her

(01:39:29):
daughter comes up to the counter. He says, can you
bring this man one of each of everything? So her
daughter runs out of the mall. We get two more
phone calls like that first one. Then her daughter comes
back with a paper grocery bag filled with white a
Catholics do that or white Catholics believe this pamphlets a
Catholic Bible and like one hundred and twenty five white
house Catholic media dis to which I when I went

(01:39:52):
home that day, I had just been married recently and
like two or three months before, and my wife had
been a just fellowship Jehovah's witness like how bad you
got to be to be kicked out of it? And
I walked in the door and I said, say, oh, hey,
guess what. I'm Catholic now, And to the Jovah's witnesses,

(01:40:15):
Catholics are like the mortal enemies. So she was like,
all the things you could possibly be, why would you
do that? But the very next day I started going
to daily mess and she came with me, and at
the consecration I saw Jesus and I was like, do
you see that. Here's what isn't that man up there
on the stage she was as the priest. I said, no,
the other guy. I don't see anybody else as you

(01:40:39):
don't see it because you're not Catholic. I thought everybody
in that room saw what I was seeing. I thought
of you were Catholic, you saw Jesus at the consecration.
And then I talked to some people and they said no,
like nobody was seeing what I was seeing. And then
I found out there was a place called Perfectual Laboration
where you could go see Jesus twenty four hours was

(01:41:00):
a day. And I was like, is there like a
sign up sheet for that? Do I have to like
sign my name to something? And then like four years
from now, they'll call me and say, you're far A
block of time is right now and if you don't
make it, it will be four more years. And they're
like laughing at me. They're like, no, no, no, you
just go. There's not a line to get in, No,

(01:41:23):
like there's got to be there's a line to get
into see Elephis and he's been dead over forty years.
So I go shop Number one. Our car is the
only other car in the parking lot shop number two,
there's no line to get in shop number three. We
opened the chapel door. It's Jesus, some woman, myself and

(01:41:47):
my ex wife now and this woman looks up like
a deer in the headlights and packs her stuff as
fast as she can go. If this was an Olympic event,
she got gold and bam, she's out the door. Oh,
just before that, she goes, you can't leave till someone
else comes in. I'm bamed. She's out the door, And

(01:42:07):
I thought, why would I leave. I'm in a room
with Jesus. So that became like my normal hangout. I'd
be there anywhere from thirty minutes to eighteen hours a day.
That was in January of eight. In May of eight,
I officially entered the Catholic Church, and I was working
with Saint Raphael then till about twenty ten. In twenty ten,

(01:42:33):
I had learned, I thought everything I could, and I
needed a cool name for my ministry, you know, And
I thought the Blessed Mother was super cool and blessed
Bartolo long ago had been He'd been raised Catholic, baptized Catholic,
and then he converted being a Satanist and then he

(01:42:56):
became a Satanic by priest, and then he converted to
being Catholic and became a Catholic priest. And then he
was worried that because he'd been a Satanist, he was
going to go to help. And the Blessed Mother appeared
to him and said, anybody that propagates my Rosary will
not go to help. So he build up with silica

(01:43:17):
in Bombay to the Rosary and the Blessed Mother. I thought, man,
he's going the extra mile. So and then Saint Benedict
was cool. He was an extremist. I'm an extremist, so
I took Benedict as my confirmation name. But the Blessed Mother,
Blessed martt Longo andre Pio, Saint Benedict Ministry doesn't roll

(01:43:41):
off the tongue. So I thought, well, we're all about
inclusion in this country and really around the world now.
So I came up with All Saints Ministry. So not
only do I have all the saints that have ever
been saints, but any future saints as well. So I
started All Saint Ministry. All Saints Ministry. We promote pro

(01:44:05):
life and spiritual warfare. My talks are about pro life,
spiritual warfare and my life. And then I also have
a talk on Satan and pop culture. And then I
started a second ministry last year called Our Lady of
Guadaloupe's Army, and in that one, we take on Satan

(01:44:27):
and the Antichrist had to head. It's we've basically painted
targets on our backs, and you know, but we know
we die martyrs, we go straight to heaven. And in
that ministry, the Satanists do black masses between midnight three am.
It's an extended black mass, and they consecrate all the

(01:44:49):
day's abortions in their time zone. There's twenty four times
zones in the world, and they consecrate all the day's
abortions to Satan and the Antichrist. So we've come up
with a ministry that fights that. So and the reason
we're going to be targets is because Satan has power,
but he's not going to get any more. And the

(01:45:12):
Antichrist has power, but he's not going to get any more.
And I'm sure they would like more so, but this
prevents them from getting more because they were getting more
power through all the abortions that are happening all around
the world.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Wow, Zachary, this is an incredible story. We're definitely gonna
have to have you back on. There's so many questions
I have that we won't be able to get to.
There is one thing I want to ask before we
close out, though, How widespread is this epidemic of Satanic cults?
Would you say that it permeates through our culture, even

(01:45:48):
to lower levels of education, regular people in your workforce
that may be involved with these things.

Speaker 3 (01:46:00):
I was at a conference once and somebody asked me
what does a Satanist look like? And so I said,
do we have any doctors in here? And this guy
stood up. I said if we have any attorneys? This
guy stood up. I said we have any cops? This
guy stood up, and I said, okay, these guys look
just like your typical Satanists, people like all of us.

(01:46:21):
And you're not going to tell now. You can tell
the kid that hangs out in the cemetery with a pentagram,
you know, earring in his ear and you know, chanting
Marilyn Manson songs and all dressed in black. But that
kid's most likely not a real Satanist, you know, he's
just a one of me. The people that are really

(01:46:43):
in covens. Wait, here's an idea. Remember that Mike Coven
back in like nineteen eighty four had one point one
million members worldwide. And I have people that tell me
there's no way there's a Satanic couven that big. The
Satanic Temple held Satan Khan in twenty twenty two, and

(01:47:03):
when that came out, Lucian Greaves came out and said
that their coven had three hundred thousand members worldwide. Covens
generally don't get smaller. So in twenty twenty three he
came out and said this was at the next Satan On.
The first Saint in Con was in Arizona. The next
one was in Boston. It was one year later and

(01:47:27):
Lucian Greaves came out and said that they had seven
hundred thousand members worldwide. It more than doubled in one year. Now.
They didn't hold a Satan Con in twenty twenty four
because they were donating their money to the Democratic Party
to get Taula or you know, elected, because she ran

(01:47:48):
on an abortion platform. And so do they you know,
they believe that like on the if you go to
their website, they believe in seven things and the first
one is a right to a woman's abortion on demand,
because they believe abortion is a Satanic sacrifice, same as me.

(01:48:10):
I have a book called Abortion It's a Satanic Sacrifice.
I tell you how we got abortion in America, what
organizations I worked with as a high wizard to move
Satan's agenda around the world, and how to shut down
on abortion mill through spiritual warfare that if it wasn't,
if it didn't take spiritual warfare to shut it down,

(01:48:30):
it became legal in it like nineteen seventy three. If
Marching would shut it down, we send a million people
a year to march in Washington, d C. In January
March for Life. If Marching would shut it down, we
wouldn't have any abortion mills here. But we have eight
hundred and sixty five just from Planned parented. So, like

(01:48:54):
I said, if marching worked, but Marching has never shut
down a single abortion though. However, we have four methods
in my book and in my CD set. They're also
on my Spotify account and on my YouTube channel, so
it's not a secret. I throw the message out there
and my methods are shut down fifty three abortion mills

(01:49:17):
that we know of, according to planned parenthood. The average
abortion mill murders fifteen hundred babies a year, so shutting
down fifty three, I'm saving almost eighty thousand babies a year,
which is a very good feeling for me. But you know,
if anybody would like to donate money to my ministry,

(01:49:38):
I have fundraisers on my website. We have like a
life funder, I have PayPal, I have Venmo, I have
a cash app or on my website on my contact
page a peel box if you want to send me
a check. We work hard at shutting down abortion mills

(01:49:58):
around the world. Also, I talk about spiritual warfare. If
you have questions about spiritual warfare, you think the devil
is attacking you, you think that there's a curse on
your family, whatever you have questions for, I am here
to help you.

Speaker 2 (01:50:14):
Excellent Zachary, thank you so much. I will have all
the links easily accessible for everyone who would like to
get in touch and learn more about you. And like
I said earlier, we'll definitely have to have you back
on There's much more that we can get to Until
next time. Everyone, have an excellent evening and we will
be talking again tomorrow. We will see y'all then

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