Genesis Project, Perception Management & Cyber Sorcery | Wayne McRoy & Richard Willett - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbid Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew. Today,
my guests are Wayne McRoy and Richard Willett. Be sure
and check out my films Doors of Perceptions on Amazon Prime.
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or you'd like to be a guest, email me Forbidden

(01:06):
Knowledgenews at gmail dot com. Today, I want to welcome
back to the show Wayne McRoy and welcome Richard Willett.
Wayne is an author researcher and co host of The
Synchronistic podcast. Richard is a filmmaker, director, video producer, journalist
and also co host of The Synchronistic podcast. Wayne Richard, Welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
How y'all doing doing fantastic. Chris, how about yourself?

Speaker 2 (01:34):
I'm doing great. It's great to have you both on,
and you have both been doing such amazing work decoding
the hidden nature of this strange realm that we're in.
And today we're not only going to try and break
down some of the mechanics of synchronicity and methods of
manipulation by the hidden hands steering Society, but Wayne, before

(01:55):
we got on, you mentioned something called the Genesis Project,
which I want to learn more about before we do. Richard,
this is your first time on. Let's start with you,
tell us a little bit about yourself and let the
audience know how they can find out more.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
Jeers, mate, and thanks for having me on. I'm been
doing this this research for about fifteen years now in
terms of making content of a film and TV degree.
So I worked in not quite in the mainstream, but
I had kind of my foot in the door and
realized that it wasn't quite what I thought it was.
I always knew it wasn't anyway in terms of what

(02:32):
it was going to be, but I got a first
down account of working at the places like the BBC
and thinking this is just horrific. So I was always
learning this stuff. So I just started my own podcast,
and this was way back, probably ten years ago now,
and then I met Garethyke, so I work with Gareth
and we started Iconic together. Meet Gareth and Jamie about

(02:53):
seven and six and a half years ago now and
we've been doing that. So most of my work is
on Iconic dot com. You can find all my documentaries
on my weekly shows now do two weekly shows, and
it's all the occult and esoteric stuff. So we kind
of cover all sorts of spectrums of Iconic in terms
of the alternative, but it goes from politics to deep stuff,

(03:14):
and I'm myself and David mostly do the deepest occult stuff.
And then you kind of obviously get some kind of
like new ag kind of it's not quite new agey,
but it is like out there kind of spiritual stuff.
I suppose you could probably put it that way, and
it covers all platforms, but it's all stuff you won't

(03:35):
hear in the altern I'm sorry, the mainstream alternative media
and the alternative in the mainstream media. So that's where
I am. You can find me on Iconic dot com.
And obviously I do a show with Wayne every couple
of weeks called Synchronistic. We've known each other for about
nine it must be about seven or eight years now,
doing stuff back and forth, and we started Synchronistic about
a year and a bit ago and it's just done

(03:55):
really well. We when we do get a chance to
get together, actually chat about these things. But this is
a level where most people don't understand in terms of
what they're actually seeing, and it's absolutely everywhere, and the
whole point is to show people there's a language here
that you're seeing every day around you all the time
that you just have been told you have not been

(04:18):
told how to decode. And it's everywhere. So that's what
we do. And I learn a lot from Wayne as
well through the years. I've got all these books and
I'm a big fan of Wayne's work, just as a
writer and as a researcher. So but I've been doing
this some. I'm of documentary filmmaker really, but more kind
of got into this sort of stuff about ten to
fifteen years ago, so that's a iconic dot com is

(04:39):
where you can find almost.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
Excellent And you mentioned the deeper levels of what's unfolding
in this reality, and this show is definitely all about that.
My audience is pretty versed with the basics. Before we
get into this, Wayne, briefly, reintroduce yourself for the audience
that may not be familiar and let them know how
they can find more about you.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
All right, Well, people could find all of my work
centralized on my website. That's www. Dot Alchemical Tech Revolution
dot com. If you're not familiar with my work. I
delve very heavily into the occult and the esoteric side
of things and try to bring to the surface what
is actually going on in this reality around us, because,
as Richard alluded to here, it's encoded everywhere. They can

(05:26):
communicate through this language of symbolism and it's out there everywhere.
And more recently Richard and I Richard's been fantastic at
picking up the concepts that I've laid down. We've been
decoding what I call the synchronistic metadata that is out
there in the greater zeitgeist, the information field, and we're
able to actually obtain information about things going on by

(05:49):
using that methodology. And what this is is this equates
to symbolic things out there that we see round about
us every day, and it's kind of like a hidden
communication tool for those in the null, in the high
echelons of the occult fraternities of this world, the ones
that really control things and run things from behind the veil,

(06:11):
those that I call the dark occultists who run things
in this world. This is how they communicate ideas, This
is how they implant ideas into the collective unconscious mind
and leverage our own mental energies against us to bring
to fruition the agendas that they want to have play
out in this world. And they are doing this once again,

(06:31):
as I had spoken to you off air just prior
to the broadcast, with what is called the Genesis Project
or the Genesis Mission that the White House has recently
launched in conjunction with the US Department of Energy. And
what this is is this is an executive order to
make a historic national effort led by the Department of Energy,

(06:53):
to transform American science and innovation through the power of
artificial intelligence. So this is all about building a new
artificial intelligence infrastructure in the US and in the world
to come. And of course this hearkens to the building
of what I call the beast system. And there are

(07:13):
many people who have touched upon many of these things
in the past. We see how it all begins to
manifest in a way where it brings to fruition things
talked about in scripture and things predicted in various other
places throughout the course of time. So we have all
of these connection points with this. This is the fruition

(07:33):
of something big, something transformative to society and culture in general.
And we're sitting at the precipice right now of a
crossroads in society. And Richard and I have touched upon
this crossroads in past broadcasts of synchro Mystic. I think
we're coming up on our one year anniversary of the
launch of synchro Mystic, and we've had a great response

(07:54):
to that. Even though it started out a little slow
in the beginning, it's been snowballing every month now we
do this and we only get together about twice a
month because Richard's busy, I'm busy. It's hard to really
coordinate things from across the pond. But we do our best,
and everybody always seems to react very positively when we

(08:14):
put these shows out there for them to understand and
decode the synchronistic metadata. I think it's an important concept
and it's an important idea for people to look into
because you could have a better grasp of what the
reality is by knowing how to decode this and what
it is they're talking about. And what this goes back
to is the secret language of these occultists and these

(08:37):
people that really run things behind the scenes, and sometimes
it translates over into political ideologies, and we see that
all the time in world events. So when they're talking
about certain things, if you know the keywords to look
for and know the roots of where this stuff comes from,
then you could better understand what they're talking about. One
of the primary conduits they use for communicating these ideas

(08:59):
is the kabbala, the Lareanic cabala, and Richard and I
have delved very heavily into this, and you see these
stories out there in the mainstream media all over the
place that convey these hidden meanings, and most people don't
pick up on it. Like Richard just recently did a
story about the number six hundred thousand, So Richard, could

(09:21):
you elaborate a little about that for Chris.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah. Yeah, the six hundred thousand, I mean that cut
pops up everywhere. We had an article came out about
the farmers and how they're taken away obviously all the
work from farmers, and they would have to pay six
hundred thousand pounds in tax, which obviously is not the
real number, but the point is that that's the coded
This is part of the agenda. Now. The six hundred
thousand number is the amount of sparks or shards, the

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iron soft or the Adam Cadman, which is the whole
entity of what was originally the original one. You would
call it exploded in two when they try to create
space to create something else, So it retracted itself. This
is Lurianic kabbala. He retracted itself and doing so because

(10:10):
it was so powerful, it exploded. Now all these six
hundred thousand sparks, these elements, think of them shattered glass
falling to the earth. So you have these fallen angels
and the Nephelim that kind of connotation falling to the earth.
They became encased in husks, which they call kleapoth which
are the nasty husks, or serahphot which are the nice husks.

(10:31):
I wonder what husks? We go Yeah, exactly, we're kleepof
to these this cult. So when so the six hundred
thousand sparks, they call it teak and olam repairing the world.
It's a lot in this. I'll try and cram it
in repairing the world tikin olam in Lurianic cabala or Sabatine.

(10:52):
Frankism is about reuniting those sparks into the one. It's
the reversal, it's the great reset, it's the the singularity.
It's all bringing it back to one. It's clapsing it
and starting it again. But those sparks, So when you
see the eternal flame, So JFK when he was assassinated, Diana,

(11:17):
Princess Diana, she was assassinated, what did they put there
to memorialize it? The eternal flame? Because they see that
as we've released their eternal sparks. I'm sure Diana and
JFK didn't see it that way, but they do. That's
how they kind of apologize to themselves for killing people.
They see they're doing the world of favor. They're repairing

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the world, and people need to understand this is not
just a Jewish thing. This is a sabot and Lurianic
cabalistic thing. Sabotai Zev and Jacob Franku later took on
his work. They were Lurianic cabalists. So this is a cult.
This is a death cult. So by killing you, they
are releasing you into life, and that goes in Gnosticism

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has elements of that. Not to say any of these
systems are bad evil. They get hijacked, infiltrated by Sabatanism, sabotage.
So the six hundred thousand is a reference to the
sparks that will go back and as goes into the
Golden Age of Saturn and all of this stuff that
you see Trump And this is most this is mostly seen,

(12:24):
most obvious, even in the likes of the Habad Lubovich
sect in Brooklyn that also aren't anything to do with
the Middle East. They're Ashkaratsen. These are sabot and Frankists.
That they're very core. I'm not saying every single one
of them is so at the very core, they are
clearly Sabote Frankists and not Jewish. They're now using the

(12:45):
Jewish faith, elements of different faiths to create this construction.
They're in the Christian faith, they're in the Islamic Faith,
they're in Silicon Valley, they're in the Knights Templar, the
Knights Malta. They sabotage and corrupt everything within like a virus.
So that's how they operate, and what they do is

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and then when you start to see this understanding, so
you go, okay, they do that, they sabotage. So what
do they do? Will they hide themselves inside husks of
other organizations, kleipofs, Sarah Fott, whatever they want to call it,
because they use these elements and this psychology of understanding
that actually when the Wroths Child's call themselves red shield,

(13:26):
what they're saying is, I'm going to use the Jewish
favor as a shield to hide within, and whenever you
try and attack us, we're going to use the anti
Semitic thing. Even though Semitic means a group of language
is largely Arabic, which would be the Palestinians. Even then
they'll turn it inside out Satanic because at their very core,
these guys are Satanic. They're not sabotine is one level.

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And if it's like peeling an onion, like we've discussed
this me in Wayne peeling an onion skin back, you
get the sabotine layer off, you've got the Satanic layer,
the death cult layer. When it comes back to it,
there's these different layers that they hide within. And as like,
I'm not religious at all. And you know which is

(14:08):
what's great about me and way working together is that
we have completely different sets of beliefs, but we respect
each other as human beings who want to make the
world better for our kids. But by their fruits you
will know them. Is who can argue with that? So
you know these people by their fruits. So just before
us stop rambling a minute, Tommy Robinson over here in

(14:28):
the UK with the digital idea, I've just put a
video out about it.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Now.

Speaker 4 (14:33):
He's going over there to kiss the wall in Israel.
He's clearly an Israeli firster. He's over here pushing the
Islam everybody hates Islam type thing over here in the UK.
I know Donald Trump's doing the same in America. They're
the same because they're part of the same cult. Now
what that does is pulls the polarities into a position

(14:53):
where the British public and the America public do what
they beg for digital ideas, and that's exactly what that's
happening here in the UK. And we have something in
the UK which is this is even sicker. They're using
the something called the Veterans Pass is the first one
going to be used in the UK. So they're ABSORR UK.
So they're using the veterans here in the UK, the
same poor sods they sent off toward to kill each

(15:14):
other for them. They actually using it called the Veterans Pass,
and it's going to be the first digital pass in
the digital wallet. And they're saying, because people are asking,
you're not using palanteer, are you for the digital wallet, Well,
no we're not. We're not working with any outside corporations,
all in house. But when you see the digital pass,
they're working with the Ministry of Defense for that digital pass,

(15:35):
the first card in the digital wallet. I think it
is your first bank card in your wallet. They're working
with the Ministry of Defense. About three months ago they
signed a one point five billion pound deal with Palenteer
to run out run AI across London. So they're coming
in the side door using the same poor soods that
went to war for them, lost their lives, and ushering

(15:57):
it that way because they know the British public will
go well, if it's good enough for the troops and
the veterans, is good enough for us. And then the
likes of Tommy Robinson and the guys that go over
and kiss the wall in Israel can usher it out
here and gaslight people into God to do it because
all these Muslims are coming over. It's so obvious. And
when you realize the Saudi Royals aren't royals, they are Sabotine,

(16:18):
Frankis Nashkin nats him. You realize that one of the
the Kingdom Holdings has shares in ex Ai Holdings Corp.
And Qatar National Sovereign or the Tatar Sovereign Fund has
which is the National It's the same thing, the National
Trust and Sovereign Fund is the same thing when you

(16:38):
look at it. So what is Elon Musk doing in
bed with the Saudi Royals and the Saudi's if he
hates Islam? And it's all a problem because and then
obviously you have the Palentier connection with Elon Musk, so
we go into all of that, and that's on the
political level. But when you really come underneath it, there
is this language that you understand that once you tune

(16:59):
into it, you see it everywhere and you can pick
up on theirs signed symbols. Six hundred thousand is a
code for them and not in a wink like the rainbow.
But I'll stop. Well on, but that was a long
winded way.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
Of saying that you're spot on when you were discussing
the layers of agendas and occult symbolism. What's really being
represented under the surface. Going back to the Genesis Project,
I'm sure it's the same with this many layers to
peel through. As far as what's unfolding right now related

(17:37):
to this, Wayne will start with you talk a little
bit more about this and the deeper layers as we go.

Speaker 3 (17:47):
All right, Well, the Genesis Project, of course, they're invoking
the language of the Bible of creation, of building a
whole new world Genesis. And this just came out from
the White House, released as an executive order where the
President is ordering X amount of dollars. I think it's
something to the tune of one hundred million dollars or

(18:07):
something like that. One hundred billion. Excuse me, one hundred
billion dollars to go into the building of AI infrastructure
in the US, And of course he announced this right
after being reelected again as president back in January or
February or some such thing. And this was announced in
conjunction with Sam Altman and Larry Ellison and all of

(18:29):
those guys talking about the Stargate project, AI Stargate and
the Stargate. Richard and I have discussed this in the
past on Synchronistic Again. You are the stargate, the human
being is the stargate. We are the connection, the link
between worlds, and the whole agenda here smacks of transhumanism.

(18:52):
That's exactly what they're trying to set up, this infrastructure
for transhumanism, and it all has to do with data collection,
building these mass of AI data centers as the starting
off point for this, so that they could collect all
of your genetic and biometric information, your medical records, everything

(19:12):
all centralized into one AI driven utility where the AI
will be in charge and there's no accountability and either
you will participate in the system or you will be
locked out of society. And this is the Beast system.
We've seen this discussed in the book of revelation and
in the Bible. So we have all of this starting
to come online now and now we're seeing the real

(19:34):
world nuts and bolts building of this infrastructure. Because the
whole idea, the whole concept, is all about attaching man
to the digital neo cortex, the digital layer of this
reality that they intend to build. And what is this
digital layer. Well, they tried rolling it out back in

(19:55):
the early part of the whole COVID scandemic. They pulled
on us and they were calling metaverse. You remember all
the metaverse push. Zuerg had to walk away from metaversus
the actual buzzword because people weren't actually latching onto it
the way that they had intended that they would. So
this hasn't gone anywhere. They're still building this new generation

(20:19):
of Internet Web three point zero services and technologies that
essentially are the metaverse. What this is really all about
is building a synthetic digital sub layer of this reality.
And essentially what this is is this is a cheap knockoff,
a synthetic version of a thing that exists in nature.

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When you go into some of the occult teachings looking
back to the nature of manifestation and consciousness, and all
of those things. You find that this world we live
in has an etheric sub layer. The etheric sub layer
is a portion of the physical plane in which we live,
but it is of a finer grade of matter, and

(21:02):
we've only just begun to touch into this. If you
look at the Rosicruci system, they explain it like this.
We understand matter in its states of existence. We have solid,
liquid and gas, and now we have plasma. The rosicrution
system says there are seven different layers, or seven different

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states of matter that exist. Now from plasma on up
touches into this etheric portion. It's a finer grade of substance.
It is less dense than the dense physical chemical region
in which we exist. This is what these controllers of
this world are trying to tap into. They're trying to
build a synthetic etheric sub layer. Because this has everything

(21:46):
to do with how manifestation works. When you go back
into the old occult sciences, it's a stepping down process
from the spiritual realms into the physical, and that gateway
is this etheric layer. The first step of physical manifestation
in the dense chemical region in which we live steps
through this etheric sublayer. So to perform changes or make

(22:08):
changes in this world, it has to step down through
the etheric first. So an idea generates in the divine
world or the world of the mind, the mental plane
steps down through the astral and into the etheric first
before it manifests physically in the world that we know

(22:31):
and we can view with our five senses. This is
all part of how manifestation of a thing works. Within
the Rosicrucion system, the Rosicrusians explain it the best in
my view. I've looked at this from all different angles
and perspectives and from different traditions. They all tell you
the same things, but sometimes the language varies a little
and it gets a little confusing and muddled. So I

(22:53):
try to stick with the Rosicrucion system because I find
it gives me the most clarity, as it's more attuned
to Western ideologies rather than Eastern ideologies. This is the
Western esoteric stream of alchemical thought as opposed to the Eastern.
Now you have people like the Theosophists who've picked up
on the Eastern tried to gel it together with the Western,

(23:15):
and things become muddled and don't make sense. And they
do this on purpose, because then they apply the inversion
process to what the true intention is of these things,
and they invert it. And I will always tell people,
and I maintain this, the true definition of Satanism is
the inversion principle. They use it all the time. It's

(23:36):
the inverse of what the original intention has been. So anyway,
not to ramble on too long. Essentially, what they're trying
to do is they're trying to hijack this process of
manifestation from the etheric to the physical plane here the physical,
dense chemical region that we live in. And in order
to do that, they're trying to take a shortcut by
building a synthetic etheric layer so that they can progrem

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whatever changes they want into that etheric sublayer to manifest
physically here in the real world that we see in
experience with our five senses.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
It seems like another part of this is that they
require at least a large portion of the masses to
participate in the agendas the ritual in order for it
to come to fruition or at least go along with
it in a sense that we allow it to unfold

(24:31):
by going along with the agendas believing in operations like
COVID and fear factor, high impact events that have unfolded,
it seems like those are required for us to have
a reaction to allow these events to manifest into our reality.

(24:52):
Would you say that's accurate?

Speaker 3 (24:55):
Absolutely, it is. This falls back to the old Hermetic
principle of mental wisk. All manifests from mind. It begins
from mind, from thought, and steps down into physical creation
here into reality into manifestation from that. So they're trying
to hijack your thinking process first of all, to empower
the agendas that they want. So certainly that does hold true.

(25:19):
And think of it this way, if you want to
look at it from a more nuts and bolts perspective
here in the world of science that we're used to,
or scientism I would more rightly call it. But these concepts,
they do have their place and their usage. But here's
how you can think of it. Your perception is your reality.
So if you could convince enough people something's real, does

(25:40):
it not in essence become real. Look at COVID as
an example, enough people bought into it that it's actually
entirely transformed the world. And even though the evidence of
it was very scarce in the beginning. They used this
to actually build this type of eggra around it, and

(26:01):
it's taken on a life of its own. This is
how they do things. It's all about the thoughts, the
thought forms being generated from the minds of the masses
if enough people are thinking into this. And this is
something I've done recently. I've done a couple podcast episodes
now about the eggregre, the nature of an aggregre and

(26:23):
what that is. And this plays heavily into a lot
of the things we look at too. So if you're
focusing your thoughts and your energy into this thing, you're
giving a type of spirit or manifestation to it, and
it takes on a life of its own and it
begins to affect other people. Now you could look at
the whole idea of the hundredth monkey effect as an

(26:46):
example of this. So ideas can catch on without people
necessarily discussing them among themselves because of the nature of
how the thought form goes out, takes on a type
of life essence of its own, and then begins to
affect other people out there in this greater information field,
the zeitgeist, if you will. That's what I like to

(27:07):
call it, and sometimes it manifests as this synchronistic metadata
that I'm talking about, and it can implant ideas or
archetypes and perhaps emotions into people's minds or thought processes.
And this is what they really thrive on, especially the

(27:27):
more negative emotional responses. It's all about actually affecting your
animal nature, your reactive nature. They don't want people to
ever think critically about a thing. They just want people
to react. That is why they oftentimes will use emotional
trauma and generating fear and things like that to evoke

(27:50):
a response from people. That's all they're looking for. They
want people in this reactionary state because that falls back
to the limbic system or the animal brain, the reptilian brain,
and this of course always has a lot of connotation
attached to it too, So these are just more layers
of the onion we're peeling off. So this whole genesis
project is evoking that thought form, that nature of genesis.

(28:14):
It's about creating something new. But there's nothing new under
the sun, the Bible advises us, So this is the
same old new world order like always. That's what I
like to call it, because you see it emerging everywhere.
It's always the same playbooks that they use. It's the
same blueprint, and once you know how to read it,
it kind of gets tiresome for you. And you see

(28:36):
it everywhere. Like Richard alluded to, you could see their
language that they're using. They put it out there in
plain sight. But if you don't understand what they're saying,
that's on you. And that's the way that they perceive
this whole thing.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Richard, anything to add about this language, about the synchronistic
nature of the mechanisms of this.

Speaker 4 (29:00):
It's fascinating once you can read it, Like, let's get
up an example of I mean, the Genesis project is
it's a clear example. But let's have a look at grock.
What the grock means. If you look at the actual
meaning of it, it means understanding or to understand, which
has binarre on the Kabbala tree of life. They've always

(29:22):
telling you. So the whole point is that is to understand.
So the whole point is to understand. It doesn't understand
anything obviously, but it alludes to it. It's a synthetic
function of it, but it's not real true understanding. If
you look at and this is the big one for
me was data. An anagram of data is day at Daat.

(29:45):
Day At it's the hidden I think eleventh Sepharot on
the Kabbala Tree of life, it's the hidden knowledge. Day
At is hidden knowledge. So what is it for? What
do they get off you? When you use your computing
and jury thing? They get the hidden knowledge of what
you've done, and when you've done it, they harvest that.
So they are harvesting your hidden the hardest thing, sorry,

(30:07):
the Harvard harvesting, i'd say, your data, to know exactly
what you're doing. Therefore, they can read your mind or
play on exactly what you've done and see the way
you react, and it's stuff that you don't say, so
they see it as reading your mind, which is obviously
not still the same. It's a simulation of that, but
it's not that, and they know it's not truly that.

(30:30):
It can never be truly that, but they can simulate it.
And if you're convinced enough by what you see out
in the world, you'll think that they're reading your mind.
It's hidden knowledge. It's all it's hidden from them as well.
They're like you to believe that they're these magical magicians.
They just understand psychology, which is really understanding the way
human nature works in the nature of reality is, which

(30:53):
is the same thing. So Dayat is a great example
of them having this hidden language. What is great about it,
and I've said this to Wayne and I said this
on my shows, is the real good thing is that
they have to stick to this language because this is
how they've communicated for thousands of years. So once you've

(31:13):
decoded this language, there's no going back for them. They
can't suddenly start to change. The language they talk to
each other is too embedded in their beast system. So
you can decode this language. And that's why we do
myself and way and do what we do. We do
it to show you what they're actually saying to each other.
We do it, and then you can go, well, ain't
going to go along with that, that's ridiculous. And then

(31:34):
you start to see it everywhere. Then, like learning a
new language, you start to learn it and it snowballs
and you're like, this is bloody obvious. I was watching
Stranger Things last night. We all know that's an mk
Ultra kind of on talk project thing, but I mean
it gets ridiculous to the point where the tree in
upside Down World is the Kabbala Tree of Life tipped
upside down, and it's so bloody obvious. And then they've

(31:56):
even got a bit in the middle where they all
do in season five where it used to be the library,
so it was the information port where it was black
and white floor in the checkerboard from Freemasons, and now
it's in this world where it's all cornered off. In
season five it's the radio station. It's where the information's
being spread out, but it's all still checkerboard floors, and

(32:18):
they show you that everywhere. And I was watching another
Christmas film with a guy in it, and they had
an imporing with kids. I can't remember what the film
was called because my wife was watching it with the
kids and I didn't actually know. It was called a
Dustin Hoffman in it. And they had this toy shop
and in the corner, this gray black matt started. Mold
started growing up the walls, and it grows straight over
and one of the doors starts pounding, and the door

(32:39):
that starts pounding is clearly Solomon's Temple, the front door
with the two pillars on it. It's in everything but
the good thing is that they have to speak this knowledge,
and they are proving us right, So they are actually
undoing themselves every time they do something, because the people
like us, yourself included, the people like David Ike, the

(33:02):
Jordan Maxwell's of the world that I can't remember, some
older ones and max Egans of the world, the ones
that have been around a lot longer than I have,
and even exchanged to a certain degree when he was
before he was compromised, although I think he's always been
cia quite frankly, if you look at his family history,
it's quite obvious they did a lot to allay the

(33:23):
foundation work. Whether they were intending to or not, it depends.
And I've just seen You've got the cobolatry of life
behind you there, which is upside down, in upside down world,
basically in stranger things. It's everywhere, and he's fascinating to
read it, and you see it in the news. The
numbers six hundred thousand, they don't count the zero as

(33:46):
a thing, so they could be six thousand, it could
be sixty thousand, it could be six hundred thousand. It's
the same code to them, because they work between the
one and the nine and the one and the zero
what's that binary? So you start to see this eleven,
the eleven Cepharot is out is outside that binary one
and zero nine to eleven. Nine eleven was supposed to

(34:08):
be the same, just for example, supposed to be the
same date in which the two temple first two temples
were sacked in the Lo text. What the chances, I mean,
it's ridiculous. So then nine eleven happens and the twin
towers come down, which are Yaquin and Boas. And you
have that ix XI, which is the signal of Saturn
which you see on the Boumoral Crest in Scotland. Of

(34:30):
the British Royals are not British. It's a cult. And
you have all of these people, all these freemasons, they
want to rebuild the Third Temple. And then you start
to see obviously the Middle East and what's happening there
is the Great Royds Rail Project. Is is really this
sabotean death cults playing out biblical prophecies or whichever way

(34:51):
you see it, which is the project in New American century.
That's one olive skin or onion skin over the top.
Another one is the Greater Israel Project that's another onion
skin over the top of what really is a messianic agenda.
Then you've got the Freemasons. They're wanting to build Solomon's
termable with Lebieff and all of these guys, another skin

(35:12):
over the top. It's the same thing, but as Wayne
was alluding to, they're trying to manifest it in this world.
So they're going through these different layers and it's almost
like I'm speaking a language. I don't need to speak
to you, guys, because as a format and a blueprint

(35:32):
to this, and I can give it words, and I
can build the walls around it, and I can make it.
I don't really need to do that because I know
you guys understand. And once enough people understand what they're seeing,
they can see the patterns in everything. And that's all
we're doing is decoding patterns. And that's why we do
what we do, because they're only ever going to prove

(35:53):
us right. And they know that the faster they go,
the harder they go. They are running out of time.
That's why they terrified of Kronos, Old Father Time, Satan, Santa.
They're terrified. And I've written and I've got a book
coming out called I'm a mortal when it's all about
why are they scared of dying? They're scared of their
God Yahweh, who's the evil creator God from the original

(36:16):
Old Testament, who's the older bay Off in gnosticism moves
is creator God, evil creator God. They're terrified of that being.
They don't like that being. They're scared of that being
because what's happening is they're running out of time, and
they're running out of time. Why because we are waking
up to what they're doing, and it's this kind of duality.

(36:38):
But ours is going up and ours is going down,
and they've convinced people that ours is going down when
theirs is going up and it's not. And I am
very kind of enthusiastic about the future in that sense,
because well, we're probably a few hundred years out of
them getting this thing in real technologically in motion, and
they are nowhere near and we are waking people up

(37:01):
very very quickly. So that's how it's important to do
what we're doing and just learn to read the signs,
because once you grab a hold of that thread of understanding,
you will start to learn the language. Without understanding what
the words mean, you just fail.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
What are your thoughts on the stranger aspects of predictive
programming that we see associated with high impact events. Example,
a good example is the recent Charlie Kirk assassination, the
film Snake Eyes. The strange connections the symbolism that shows

(37:37):
in the films years before this also can be set
about Back to the Future and nine to eleven and
many other high impact events that are reflected either in cinema, literature,
or some other form of entertainment before the event unfolds.
Is very interesting to me how the mechanics of this

(38:02):
would work. What is your understanding of that.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
I just jumping a little bit way and just say
because I only got brief sort of. Dwayne knows more
about this, but to me, it's a cybernetics system, as
Wayne says, So they've basically plugged this information into the
loop somewhere, and filmmakers have made these films, probably even
subconsciously not really thought about this. This information is in
the loop, so they're bringing it into the realm of

(38:29):
stepping it down the realities into this realm. And I'm
not saying they're predicting the future, but in a way
they're predicting the future by actually going about and physically
putting these information out there. There's stories out there, so
it can work one way. It could either the story
comes first and then the action comes, or the action
comes and the story comes, doesn't matter. Circle is a circle.
So they understand how to inject this information. They act

(38:51):
hidden knowledge into the cybernetic loop, and they need us.
And the real important thing that Wayne has always pointed
out is they need us to do this. We are
the starlink. They cannot do it without us. So they
can't destroy us without us destroying ourselves. So we just
need to wakee people up to realize that you've been
plugged into a loop.

Speaker 2 (39:12):
Wayne, what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Well, Richard is one hundred percent correct and how he's
actually presenting this. This is a concept that Michael Hoffman
and the late James Shlby Downard titled Revelation of the Method.
And what this does is it kind of works in
a freeze and thought type of a situation where they
introduce an idea and if you go back and you

(39:37):
look at some of the metaphysics of how manifestation occurs.
Absolutely it comes from first the idea in the thought
world or the mental plane, stepping down through the different
realities here, through the astroplane, and through the etheric and
then it manifests physically in the physical So this is
all the hearkening process of pulling the thought down, drawing

(39:59):
down the thought or the idea into physical manifestation. So
they present it in the form of entertainment to begin with,
because what does entertainment mean to go in and grab
hold of the mind. Now, remember the whole hermetic principle
of mentalism that we discussed earlier. Your mind, your thought

(40:19):
precedes reality. So once they've grabbed hold of your mind,
they've entrained an idea into your mind and they've presented
it out there into the greater information field that I
call the Zeitgeist. So now this begins to gather energy,
and sometimes that's a very long process. So this thought
form is out there, it gathers energy from the thoughts

(40:41):
of people observing that thing, that idea that's been presented,
and through the course of time, it eventually starts to
build a real world quote unquote body for better for
lack of better terms here, and then it comes to
manifestation later. Now, like I said, Koh Hoffmann and James
Shelby Downard called this revelation of the method because they

(41:04):
always tell you ahead of time how things are going
to play out, and essentially it's kind of like presenting
a blueprint to you for some type of an event
or action sequence. So this is how it comes to
fruition here, and it does haarken on the science or
the scientific discipline of cybernetics. And I've torn this apart

(41:25):
ad nauseum in many of my books because this is
the important thing to understand. They hijack this feedback loop
system in the information field, so they apply cybernetics methodologies
to do this to implant ideas. And it hasn't always
been called cybernetics. I mean, these things have been around

(41:46):
from time immemorial, but now they've kind of quantified it
into a scientific discipline called cybernetics. So what they do
is they introduce these new ideas into the cybernetic feedback
loop and it circles around and begins to empower itself
and it comes back later. So this is something that

(42:10):
perhaps this had probably take an entire other show to
actually go through the process of cybernetics how it all works.
And stuff like that. But I've done presentations on this
in the past because this is exactly what they do.
They've developed an entire workable system that utilizes this principle
and they're trying to apply that to the greater information field,

(42:31):
the zeitgeist, and they've been successful in doing that. These
are your social engineers and social programmers of the world.
They put these ideas out there, and sometimes, this is
my view, I think a lot of this comes from
a beyond human intelligence, from outside the system that's trying
to manifest something here. So many of these ideas will

(42:53):
present themselves as a type of inspiration to say a
filmmaker or a writer or something like that, and they'll
actually go ahead and they'll develop a script based upon this,
not realizing that their inspiration is coming from some external
source that has an agenda and wants to build something
or manifest something into this reality later. And a major

(43:17):
conduit for this is science fiction, because yesterday's science fiction
is today's science fact. There's a reason for that. This
is how they build things. They hijack a portion of
the human imagination, and this is one of the things
that makes human beings unique in this world. We are
made in the image of God. Well, what does that mean?

(43:39):
It means we are lesser creators. So we have an imagination,
and that's something that first of all, the AI lacks.
It lacks imagination. That's why it needs to actually hijack
the human form, the human function. That's why they need
this transhumanist movement that they're pushing so hard for. They

(44:00):
need the human imagination to empower or build the things
they need built. They have no actual creativity of their own.
They have no imagination of their own. And a lot
of this has been described as the archons. So this
is the same thing that goes on in the Gnostic teachings,
and that's why these ideas have actually resonated for as

(44:21):
long as they have. So anyway, there's all of that.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
So I just looked at something when you were talking
about that way in science fiction. Now looked at this.
This is a great example of synchronistic synchronistic beta data. Now,
so I was looking at FicT. What does FicT mean?
I always go to Hebrew because it seems to be
attached to Hebrew. So ficed is not Hebrew word, but
it's likely a TYPEO for fiction. But the Hebrew word

(44:49):
check spelled c h e T is actually pronounced like
is ficed. Checked is spelled like that and fixed, So
check but pronounced chicked like fiction means sin.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
Huh.

Speaker 4 (45:09):
That's symp chronistic metadata playing out right in front of you. Fiction.
If you meant to ask about Hebrew fiction, you can
find many modern movies and stories written in Hebrew if
you are thinking about the Hebrew letter. So it's a letter,
not word. Sorry I was wrong. Letter check ct which
is pronounced ficked. It sounds very similar to FicT and

(45:31):
it means sin. That synchronistic metadata working in real time
in front of you. Because I just had that. Let's
just check what that FicT means and I knew it
would come up with something, but it means sin. So
science sintion.

Speaker 3 (45:48):
Sounds like is like. This is another thing that escapes
most people. This is actually called the phonetic kabala. By
the way, most people are unaware that there are multiple
forms of kabbala, and there are spelleds, likely differently, and
they all have different meanings and teachings attached to them.
This is the phonetic kabala that Richard is speaking of,

(46:09):
and just to put out there so people aren't thinking
we're just making stuff up. This isn't us making stuff up.
This is a system that has existed throughout the occult
fraternities from time immemorial. It's known as many things. It's
known as the phonetic kabala. It's known as the language
of the birds. The Masons call it the green language.

(46:30):
This is an important trope. A lot of people might
call it etymology. It's important to know.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
We're Quilette language is another one, isn't it why Why?

Speaker 3 (46:41):
That's what a lot of modern researchers call it, Twilight language,
the language of the gypsies. All of these things, these
connotations are all attached to this. This is the phonetic kabala.
It's a programming language. The English language is built around
this programming because if you look at the etymology of
words in English especially, you will find oftentimes they mean

(47:03):
something entirely different than how we use them today. And
they use and invoke this all the time, especially in
their news stories and things of that nature that we
get out there. And this is one of the key
facets of looking at it. So you have to look
at word origins. So just so people understand this is
not something that we're making up out of thin air.

(47:23):
There's an actual science behind it, there's actual history to it,
and learning to decode or decipher that green language, as
the Masons call it, is very important, and oftentimes they'll
actually utilize symbols representing that to the people so that
they know anybody in the know could look at it

(47:43):
and say, Okay, they're using the green language here, the
language of the birds. A perfect example of this would
be this past year's Super Bowl, and I've done an
extensive work on the Super bowls well, who won the
super Bowl? The Eagles, the green bird, the green language,
the language of the birds. So they were telling you
and know un certain terms. There's some hidden meaning to

(48:06):
the things surrounding the big game, the super Bowl, the
superb Owl, the language of the birds, you see. And
that's why they always use that event as a major
programming hub for a particular year. So I've been working
trying to reverse engineer this programming language, and Richard's been

(48:27):
working with me on this, and I think we're getting
better at it because we could pick out what it
is they're communicating and make future predictions based on that.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
A lot of people, sorry try to that bit sorry fiction.
The first bit was fixed, so that was sin chicked
is spelt, but checked is spelt but is pronounced fixed.
The second bit is ion, which is ion A y
e I N and that means either i or fountain.
So you've got sin fountain or sin spring or the

(48:59):
sin hidden eye. So this is this is the language.
As Waynes was saying, this is really important to understand
this stuff. That's why there's layers to this stuff, and
it's a feeling. So I just wanted to jump down
and that was just a real good example. I think
of me if I didn't have clo abalt any of
that or just ten minutes ago. But I know what

(49:21):
I know when I find it, and that's why that's
how it's hidden.

Speaker 3 (49:25):
This just to add to what Richard is saying here, sin.
If you look at the word sin, if you go
back to the Romance languages, you know, Spanish, French, Latin,
Sin in Spanish means without, so without and the connotation
is there without the divine spark, without God, without the

(49:46):
spiritual and that's what that is, leading to sin science
without God. They're trying to leave God out of the equation,
the creator out of the equation of everything, and this
is exactly why we need to understand this stuff. And
like Richard said, sometimes your intuition just tells you, you
know what, I should look up the meaning of that

(50:07):
word the original etymology, and you'd be shocked and surprised
at how many times that something that you into it
in that way is actually very accurate when you look
into the details of the origin of the word. And
this is how they utilize this phonetic Kabbalah, this green
language as a programming tool, because the human unconscious mind

(50:29):
recognizes the archetype, the source behind it, and acts upon
that in a subconscious way, whether we realize it on
a conscious level or not. So this is bringing the
unconscious or the subconscious to the conscious level. And when
we do that, we're less affected by their programming cues
that they put out there for us. So that's the importance.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Of this, Richard, you were saying, how they put forward
these illusions to get you to believe that they are
all powerful magicians and they have control of everything. They
do a pretty good job of that, because there are
many that do believe that we are on a prison
planet controlled by these negative forces, and even in the afterlife,

(51:13):
we are recycled back to do it all over again
and be food for these arconic forces. That is a
very dark perspective for me to continue on with. So
I haven't adopted that perspective. I think that there is good,
There is light, There is something benevolent beyond these dark forces.

(51:34):
But as far as your understanding of how deep it goes,
how much control these forces have, is it all encompassing?
Is there a way out? Is there hope in any
of this? And I'll let you both speak to that.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
I personally I don't subscribe to that either, But what
I will say is that it is whatever you perceive
it to be. I feel like you're trapped. Then you
are trapped. Say I go to someone sends me to prison,
but I find out all sixty of my best mates
are in the prison. Is it a prison or we're
just having a nice holiday? Like it doesn't make sense.
So it really depends on how you perceive it. So

(52:14):
some people would see this if you had the Gnostic
thing as a prison planet. I don't, but I respect
other people that do. I feel like if it was
a prison, will laugh come here to to I've broke
into the prison for a laugh and to annoy the archons.
So I actually put that on stage when I was
at the stage with David, because I do a lot
of lives with David, like, and I said, like, if

(52:35):
it is a prison, I mean, it'so annoying. And because
it's not prison to me, I've got my little boys here.
You know, you can tell me I'm in prison. I
don't need to act as if I'm in prison. I
don't need to psychologically take that into So I'm the
same as you. I don't think it's a healthy way
to look at the world. I get that. I get

(52:55):
that some people do just for me. It's like, you know,
and I be recycled back in here and all of
this stuff, and it's like, I get why people believe
the sort of things. But I also think that I'm
as free as I think I am in that very moment,
and regardless of where you put me, It's like the
old song, You'll always take the weather with you. If

(53:15):
I'm a miserable bustard in this world, I'll be a
miserable buster. Whether you'll recycle me back in or not,
it doesn't matter. I'm deciding whether I'm trapped or not.
And I think that's a healthier way. It's a more
powerful way of me. Maybe you know it's coping. We're
all bloody coping anyway. None of us really know what's
going on. I don't believe any single person has ever

(53:38):
known where we come from or where we go after
we die. We have hopes, we have faith. We have
faith is really important. Faith is strength, Faith is courage.
I have faith in humans, in you guys. I have
faith in me. I have faith that people will do
the right thing. I even have a faith that in
Yadabayos story, if that was ever true, that No Wonder

(53:59):
the guys pissed off his mum had him and discarded him.
What a horrible thing to do for your child. You've
had it off with no one. I don't know how
that works, and then you've had a baby, and then
you've gone, oh, probably should have done that, that was against
the rules, and then you've discarded the baby. No Wonder,
the baby's stuff. So you can have empathy for that.
I'll be annoyed if so. He's created his own world.

(54:21):
If you want to go into that realm of the
Aldbay of creating your world, doesn't mean he's a nice
person and you want to live in that world because
he's got trauma. So but trauma big perpetuates in the
cybernetic loop. So I don't buy into that because I
don't think it's psychologically very healthy. I believe that I
am here for a reason, and it's probably just to

(54:43):
annoy people and decode this weird shit. But when you will,
you know, when we all go into the same room,
I just don't find I find life really funny and
stupid and weird, and I have anxieties all day long.
I suffer from life. We all do, but I know
we all do. There is something missing, but there is

(55:05):
something missing. This isn't I don't believe this is where
we're supposed to be in terms of where we'll always be.
I feel like we all feel as something intrinsically missing,
and we're separate from something, but we're all separated from
something together, and I think that's something beautiful, even in
its darkest moments. If this is where the evil creator

(55:27):
God put me, And I'm so glad I'm not in
the bloody Middle East, and I'm so bloody gad glad
I'm not in Africa. And I'm so like in a tent,
living in a hunt made of feces, Like I am
one of the lucky ones. Do you know what I mean?
Live in a shithut? I live in a house with
an Internet connection. What is there to be?

Speaker 3 (55:46):
You know?

Speaker 4 (55:47):
I think you've got to be grateful for that. And
when you're grateful for that, you're like, you're anxious because
you don't want to lose it. People don't want to
die because I don't want to lose what they have,
because they love what they have and afraid of losing
what they have. So there's obviously extreme intrinsic value in

(56:08):
this world. And if that's what y'all to buy off
the evil God created, then that's all right. Then I
don't know what to say.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
Wayne.

Speaker 3 (56:21):
Final thoughts, Well, it's all a matter of perspectives and perceptions,
and your perception is your reality. So there, Richard's one
hundred percent correct. Do we live in a prison planet?
I don't think so, and I don't want to accept
that because I see the intrinsic good that does exist,
and I don't think that's the original intention of the

(56:43):
creator of this place. And although others have mischaracterized this Creator,
as this yall the bay off, this evil Creator. I
don't see it that way because I personally have a
connection with God, with my Creator, and I see the
beauty in that. We all, as human beings, have this
yearning in our soul to have that connection to our creator,

(57:04):
and there's nothing else that could fill that void other
than a right relationship with him. So when you have
that and you have that spiritual connection, and this is
of the utmost importance, because this is where the world
is going right now. We're coming to a crossroads where
we have to make a choice. Are we going to
choose the spiritual path or the physical path? And we
need to choose that spiritual path if we want to

(57:28):
ascend to something greater, to have that greater love that
is out there, to have that greater experience, and to
elevate ourselves beyond this physical mortal coil in which we exist. Now,
those dark powers that run things in this world, they
most certainly want to build what Rudolph Steiner calls the
Eighth Sphere, and this is a world devoid of spirit.

(57:51):
It's an artificial, synthetic knockoff of what our true destiny
as human beings are they think they could become or
build something better if they become the post human. But
there's no spirit in that. It is devoid of soul
and spirit, and it is a world of dead entities.
It is the reign of dead matter, as Michael Hoffmann

(58:13):
calls it. So these are the two paths. This is
where we're at. We're at a crossroads. We need to
each individually make that choice. Are we going to look
to the spiritual or are we going to get stuck
in the physical the prison planet that they want us
to be built into, and that is the eighth sphere,
as Rudolf Steiner describes it. It's also known to the

(58:35):
Hermeticists of old as the world of shells, the world
devoid of spirit or connection to God, the Creator, the Source.
So those are my closing thoughts on all of that.
But I do have this immense hope because it's an
individual choice. You don't have to go along with their program.
That's the good news. You can make that individual choice.

(58:57):
Although they may make it uncomfortable for you at times
to choose the spiritual path, you can still choose to
do that and fully experience what it means to be human.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
Right on this was excellent, gentleman. Before I let you go,
let the audience know where they can find out more
about you. Starting with Wing.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
All right, I could be found at www dot Alchemical
Tech Revolution dot com. Also, Richard and I do a
bi monthly broadcast called Synchro Mystic where we really tear
into this stuff in a very deep way, and we've
had a pretty good response to all of that, so
that could be found on YouTube, and it's also out

(59:38):
there on all the different podcast platforms, so you can
find us there as well.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
Excellent Richard.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
Video work Iconic dot com, and I also put some
articles on there, and I've had blog or an article, substack, article, blog,
whatever you want to call it. Some may conspire and
you can find me on x at WATA Richard WTF,
which is what taps a podcast that we do and
we meet as I look all the stories from the
week and kind of laugh at the absurdity of it

(01:00:07):
all and the madness of it all. And it's done
really well. But obviously I hadn't synchronistic with Wayne, so
I'm busy all the time making stuff. Got book coming
out in the new year, and Wayne's just finished his
new book as well. Which I'm looking forward to. So
we're always busy. We're always just trying to keep this
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