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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew. Today,
my guest is Bush Whisperer. First, if you'd like to
help with our film fundraiser, we're working on movie number three.
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(01:07):
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(01:30):
you have suggestions or you'd like to be a guest,
email me Forbidden Knowledgenews at gmail dot com. Today I
want to welcome back to the show Bush Whisperer. He
is a full time practicing shaman from Cape Town, South Africa.
He also shares authentic, practical and theoretical content on many
spiritual and esoteric subjects. Bush Whisperer welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
How you doing absolutely well? Brother, can't complain. It's hot
here Cape tom Beach with us and yeah, life is
just moving on December caught up fast you did, trying
to make it through the holidays right on. Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
It's great to have you. Last time you were on,
you shared a bit about your journey, gave great insights
about the nature of spiritual beings and your metaphysical experiences. Today,
we're going to take a deep dive into the nature
of time and dimensionality and how we're manipulated as humans

(02:28):
to participate in a false paradigm with warped perceptions of reality.
This is a huge topic and you've got some great
talking points that you sent me. Before we get into this, though,
remind the audience just a little bit about yourself and
let them know how they can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Thank you. It's an honor to be here, and thank you,
dear brother Chris. I'm a local shaman here practicing in
Cape tom but I've been invested into the spiritual sciences
and they are cult scientists since I was a little child.
And I don't know if you called my last show
with Chris. Chris is wonderful guy. To go on a
show with you just sort of milks you like a cow.

(03:05):
Information just comes flowing, and so yeah, you know, I've
got a lot of experience in spiritual practices and I
lived in probably most of my a lot of my
adult life in the Far East and amalgamited Western traditions
with Eastern traditions and got drawn into the shamanic path
into the jungles where I lived and got to find

(03:29):
a different tasteful life. Oh where you can find me
on LinkedIn if you're just go to LinkedIn at Bush Whisper.
You can find me on YouTube at bush Whisper, at
bushspur In, LinkedIn at Bush westbro On Facebook and LinkedIn
is where a lot of people come to me for
like professional but YouTube and Telegram is where I communicate,

(03:51):
hang out, talk to people, just chat.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
Well, this is such a big topic. I'm not sure
where we would start when looking at and dimensionality. But
where do you think we went wrong with our understanding
it is?

Speaker 3 (04:08):
That's a phenomenally powerful question. I don't even know how
to really address that. To start where we went wrong,
I would say, like if I were to try and
try and get a handle on that, I would say
that I would imagine that it has to do with
this material money. We started getting obsessed with material goods

(04:37):
and material things and technology, and the more we got
fixated on how easy and amazing we could make our
lives and our toys, the more we started becoming attached
to our work. Well, I think before we subsisted, and
in a subsistence lifestyle, one does what one has to
in order to get what one needs, like animals in

(04:59):
the wild. But then the greed monster started jumping on
our backs, And I would say that's probably where we
started to get fixated on this materialist perspective, where we
started to move towards this idea of atheism, that we
are just physical beings, starting to forget that we have
a deeper, multi dimensional self. And the more we think

(05:22):
about physical things, the more we attune to physicality, and
we lose our group, with our ancestral lineage, with our
inner spiritual connection with the guides, and lose the perspective
of just how multi dimensional space is and how time
isn't what it seems. And also, I think it's good

(05:44):
to do with goals. When we become goal orientated, it's
really great for achieving things or making things happen. However,
you can get stuck in the rut of moving forward
through time to achieve one goal after another. And when
we're doing we don't stop to take a look around
just exactly where we are, sort of like if you're

(06:05):
running a race through a forest, right, you're not going
to stop and look at the flowers, are you? You're
gonna miss all the beautiful sceneing because your mission is
to get to the timeline, to the finish line as
quickly as you can and get the best time that
you can You don't have time to stop and look
at the water and the patterns and the water, how
the water flows, the little bird sitting on the tree
tweeting the beautiful flowers, the blooms, the little bees. You

(06:28):
only get to do that when you stop. And I
think that we don't stop often.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
Enough when we look at the most detrimental ideologies that
have been put forward since the dawn of time. Based
on most historical documentation, the masses seem to adopt these

(06:53):
anti human ideologies from the ruling class that is trying
to manue, pipulate, and control for some reason. And I
think our perception of time is the same in a
sense that that has been manipulated by the ruling class
with calendars and work weeks. Like you said, it was

(07:16):
all about greed. But I wonder if it's something that
naturally developed in our human psyche, the desire to participate
in this timeline structured reality, or if it was indeed
something passed down by the ruling class that they may

(07:40):
have received by non human intelligences.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
What are your thoughts about that? I think you know,
what you're saying is quite profound, and I believe it's
very much on point, my impression is absolutely the way
that we were ruled. I think the way that you
trigger the greed response in a human being is with scarcity,

(08:09):
because when you trigger the scarcity paradigm, then the human
being starts worrying about the future. Is there going to
be enough food for my family for the winter. And
now you're able to manipulate that being to say, well,
if you do this for me, I'll make sure that
there's a surplus of wheat for you and lots of
wood for your fire, right. I mean, if you imagine

(08:30):
the lords or the manner and so absolutely, it's definitely
the aristocrats that perpetuated this crime of scarcity upon humanity
in order for certain ruling classes to have absolute abundance.

(08:52):
And in the same vein, I would say that it
seems that these groups were very much fixated with certain
blood lines, and those blood lines go right back to
the ancient times, to what we call the giants or
the you know, we know them as the Nephilim from

(09:14):
the Nephilim king the Anakim, but they're also known indifferent.
In India, they are known as the as the Ashura,
and the Ashura be got the Raksha. If you go
to Persia there are the the Ahura with the good guys,
and the Yaksha with the good guys, and the divas
with the bad guys. In India the divas and the

(09:36):
devis with the good guys and the Raksha with the
bad guys with Ashura, and so we've got these mixed stories.
But there were definitely some kind of different spiritual entities
vying for control, and some of them seemed to be
from some perspectives helping humanity more and others seem to
be trying to enslave humanity more. And obviously there would

(10:00):
have been contracts made, right, there would have been hybrids
made in order to rule us, which is what a
lot of the records seem to show. We can see
this right back from the Sumerian records through the Book
of Giants is quite extensively available in different languages and cultures.
It's a very ancient, ancient piece of piece of writing,

(10:21):
and the other books as well a number of the
apocryphal writings will speak about this. You know, Noah was
a giant, and obviously we have these stories in the
Norse traditions and the American Indians speak about it, and
there's nowhere where you go where there aren't stories of
these beings. So there were these kinds of beings that

(10:43):
were ruling over humanity, and there were great and terrible
wars fought, and certain bloodlines seem to take charge after
these great and terrible wars. And I think that the
perpetuation of these ruling casts. For example, is it a
coincident that's George Bush and to the Crew were all
related to the Queen? Right?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
You know?

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Is it a coincidence that Carrot Top the current the
current American stooge? I mean, what, what was it? His
uncle was responsible for Tesla's work being confiscated. I think
it's his uncle, well, one of his family anywhere we're.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Talking about Donald Trump, Donald Trump's yes.

Speaker 3 (11:25):
Yes, yea, all right, trying not to say too many
names because that way, you know, the algorithms, don't don't
try and flag us as a political show, because we're
not really political. But but yes, I mean, it's it's
very easy to spot who's been ruling us and where

(11:48):
that rulership comes from, and it's not new. And I
think that there definitely are spiritual contracts with beings from
what I would call the eighth sphere. That's how Steiner
spoke of it. That's how he spoke of it. From
the Theosophical Society and from the Anthroposophical societies respectively. And
you know the Klippot rulership as they would speak about

(12:10):
in Western circles. And then you've got the nagas and
certain different kinds of spiritual entity populations that had interactions
with humans, between different jakshas, rakshas, and ashurdas. So you
find this in every tradition, don't you. You know that

(12:30):
there have been these entities in league with those that
are in charge of us.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Contracts were made based on your understanding of the different
spiritual traditions and possible communication with non human intelligences from
our ancient past. Do you think that at some point
that kind of interaction and communications ceased to exist, especially

(12:59):
amongst the general population. It did seem to be mainly
reserved for the priest class and the ruling class, but
based on many ancient stories, there were also many regular
people that seemed to be able to communicate with the

(13:20):
divine or angels or different beings. In your perspective, do
you think that there was some kind of event or
massive change to where in our modern age that is
seen as complete fiction and basically fairy tales.

Speaker 3 (13:41):
Absolutely, and and the histories are repugnant with all of
the evidence of it. Right. Yeah, how far are you
from Salem?

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Pretty good distance, It's a couple of states away.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
Well, I mean that was that one of the hot
spots in the USA for witch burnings? Yeah? Was it not?
But I mean they were not just there. They were
all over the show. And I think like the Originals,
what became the klu Klux Klan was actually looking for
these kind of people's you know, original before that there
were these groups and secret societies that went around looking

(14:17):
for people with gifts. And it's all across Europe. I mean,
the Crusades happened. We can't deny that, and what what
what what was their major reason for this? Where we
can believe what we're being taught to believe by the histories.
But I think it's more insiduous than that, because a
lot of the people that were forced to leave this

(14:39):
world were the innocent? Were those with gifts? Were they
look at what the pharmaceutical industry did right after the
which hunts and after because Most of the people that
were put to the torch were medicine people. They were herbalists,
they were practicing a kind of sacred spiritual medicine. And

(15:02):
those were the first people to be condemned by the
church systematically removing everybody and if you had a spiritual gift,
you were that was it. You were done for. Not
just you, your family, your your family's lands. They would
remove an entire bloodline. There were you know, and and

(15:22):
they were cruel and they were vicious, and so they
forced people to either live in fear and and forget
about that. If you had a gift, you were either
forced by your family to forget about it, not to
develop it because you would put the family in danger,
or you were caught. And I think that like you

(15:44):
do that for like a generation or two, and it
sort of sticks, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, I would imagine so. And with each generation there
is such a massive loss of information, especially if you
look at our modern times. We seem to have miniature
resets every day decade and then larger versions cyclically that
tend to wipe out much of the known history that

(16:09):
we have, so we really have no idea what our
real history is even trying to look back twenty thirty
forty years is difficult. Going back to our ancient past
seems almost impossible with the amount of information that's been lost.

Speaker 3 (16:26):
Absolutely, And you know, I discovered Tartaria. Funny little story.
I was twelve and we had this. I wasn't looking
for Tataria. I didn't hear about it. I was studying
the occult because I needed answers, right, I needed to explain, like,
what on earth have I been? What's this life been
all about? Why have I been having these crazy experiences?

(16:48):
And the only place I could find anybody that seemed
to know about this stuff was in occult texts and grimoires.
I'd be like, Okay, these guys are describing something that
I know. And and so I had read about this
Tartari place in some Tartarus. So I'd read about Tartarus

(17:10):
in some gnostic texts. I used to have been about
twelve years old, and I was like, okay, where is
this place? Ah, we've got this very ancient set of
antique encyclopae.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
He did.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Yeah, it was the pride and joy of my mom's partner.
And so I went to look in this old and
I wasn't supposed to look in this set because it
was very very old. It was like from the eighteen
hundreds or something, and you know what was at early
eighteen or eighteen hundreds. Anyway, it was a very old set.
And I found this whole chapter on Tartari and I
was like, well, it's not Tartarus. And then I started

(17:48):
paging through it and I was like, okay, boring stuff, populations,
drive cture, economy maps, all that stuff. And I remember
going to the school the next day and saying, why
haven't we learnt about this place on the map in Tartary?
At my school told me it didn't exist. That was
my first sign of hold the moment. I tried to

(18:11):
explain to the teacher, no, I got this from an
encyclopedia and they said no, no, no, you couldn't have. I said, yes,
I did. We've got it at home and they were like, well,
bring it.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
I said, I can't bring it. It's not mine. It's
like it's like more than a century old. It's an heirloom.
You know. I'm not even allowed to touch it, let
learn take it out of the house. So it was
very old, you know, leather bound all all of that stuff.
It was it leather bound or fabric or some kind
of I think it was leather anyway. My point is

(18:44):
I think that they've hid in a lot of our
history from us. And there's a lot of evidence of
the mud flood here where I live in Cape Town,
the southern tip of ap Okay. If you go to
the city, you go to Cape Town, you will find
many of the buildings have a first a ground floor
underground and there are windows and doors right, And there's

(19:08):
no historical account for how all these windows and doors
are underground, right. Yeah, that's a red flag, isn't.

Speaker 2 (19:16):
It's so interesting?

Speaker 3 (19:17):
How do you not account for this? Like this is
not just one building, this is like a.

Speaker 2 (19:21):
Whole have the same thing in the United States. All
across the United States, you'll find these buildings that seem
to be for some reason buried up to a certain point.
But I want to go back to time and our
understanding of time for a bit. You mentioned in your
talking points some of the Eastern traditions. Do you think

(19:44):
that we can get a little bit better understanding of
the nature of time based off of some of the
Eastern traditions India Vadi Taoist. Is there anything that they
have brought that could give us a better understanding?

Speaker 3 (20:06):
Yes, I'd love to be able to share a image.
There it is there, it is so I hope you
can see it. Okay, we can see it. Now, how
do I make myself come back there? Right? Right? So here,

(20:27):
we've got this. Let me let me look at it
so that I can. Can you see my cursor on
the on the image? Okay you can?

Speaker 2 (20:35):
So.

Speaker 3 (20:36):
Here we have an idea of probably one of the
most fundamental pieces of occult symbolism. And just for those
that don't know, this is the Vedic anagram. It is
also how a Vedic astrological chart is drawn, right, the

(20:56):
nine astrological influences and then they plus they plot the
chart over this, over this nine blocks. And yeah, we
we have a confluence of forces as it relates to
this little struct that we're looking at. You represents Saturn.

(21:16):
This is the cube of Saturn, and this is the
sigil of Saturn on the right hand side here. And
if you look at this Saturn and sigil, you've got
the four five six line which represents the axis mundy.
And we'll get into what the axis mundy is the

(21:37):
axis mundy is the world tree. It is the pole star.
It is the totem right, the totem pole that you
dance around if you're doing a sacred dance. It is
the middle pillar from the Western tradition. It is the
Shashumna from India and Vedic practices and yogurs, and it

(22:01):
represents the central point of alignment between the expressive and
the impressive. And here we've got you know, seven, eight
and nine, And here we've got one, two and three
that represents two sides, one to do with an expressive
potential and an impressive So we've got centrifuge and centripetal

(22:25):
forces being represented here. And the centrifugal and the centripetal
forces are bound in a pillar of harmony, which is
ruled by the number six right four five six four
representing the root the stability, six representing the harmony of venus,
of life and of beauty, five representing mercurial potential. It's

(22:48):
the calm at the center of the storm, the hub
around which all movement is maintained. So five represents the
movement and is hence at the center of this little diagram.
And these two forces represent the centripetal. The one would
represent the rising force, which we call the pingala in

(23:10):
Vedic cosmology. Is it possible for me to switch between
one image and another easily? Here? I'm not used to
using this particular.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
I can still see your screen if I can. You're
going to different images.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Here Kundalini pingala it pingala. I usually there we go.
This is quite a good one to use. So we
can here see so I don't have to do anything.

(23:50):
You can see the image. Yeah, So here we've got
like an idea of Vedic perspective that represents these You
can see there the central line the shashumna, which is
the expression of the causal body. Very important. The causal
body is what we call the akasha. That's what transcends
time and space. They speak of akashik records in Western

(24:14):
sort of ideas related to it. But the akasha has
more to do with sound that represents space. It is
the the the cosmic egg of sound vibration through which
the emanations of ida and pinkaala can come into being.
And then we have the right side on the on
the imagere which is our left side, which is a

(24:36):
descending force. It brings coolness to the root and that
is considered ida. And the ida is in Western English terms,
the astral field, the astral body, the astral. So you've
got three bodies in Shamanism, You've got your divine body right,

(24:56):
which they represent you as a shashumna. Then you've got
you your underworld right dream time where you find your power.
And then you've got the middle world, which represents that
force forces of interaction between the divine and the underworld.

(25:17):
This is where the magic as such happens. And so
the pingala would be considered the underworld in terms of
the etheric body that is able to move around spatially
here on the physical dense plane and holds the template
that's being the key. So the pingala represents shape, represents geometry,

(25:43):
represents structure, and it holds the form of things. The
ida represents the qualities. That's the astral. It represents color, feeling,
all sorts of qualities that you will experience, textures, moods
that you get when you look at the color red,
you get a mood from that color red. It's an

(26:04):
energizing active let's let's go out and do something kind
of mood. Those are all related to the astral. So
the astral is like a sphere of color and a
sphere of impressions that we travel through this fluid field
of impressions. The etheric is a structured universe that looks
and for all intents and purposes, could be this reality.

(26:26):
Only you don't move conventionally. You move at the speed
of thought, and walls are not an inhibition. So you've
got the etheric field of pingala, you've got the astral
field that you're done, and then you've got the causal field,
the shashumna, which is transmitting, and that is all your
soul body. Now, I ask you time happens as a
result of Indam pingala coming together.

Speaker 2 (26:46):
Oftentimes, I think people get the etheric and astral confused.
In this diagram, you're saying it's two different things. Could
you differentiate between these two realms?

Speaker 3 (27:03):
Well, the etheric body. Most times when you hear people
talking about astro projection, that's etheric projection, like it's ninety
ninety five percent. Few people can tell the difference. And
that's due to a lot of these occult writers that
were more theoretical than practical. Yeah, and they wrote all
these these books and it's like me ever since I

(27:23):
was a child, was like, how these guys that are
famous writers can get these things back to front or confused.
But the etheric is represents the word so F comes
from the from the hieroglyph for football, for the hieroglyph
of the cross, the T, which represents Saturn and time.

(27:44):
And it is known in our circle as the alpha
and the alpha and the amiga the beginning and the ending,
and that alpha and amiga beginning and ending, which is
F which is f which is off, which is where
it is at. So English has developed the word at
from this, which has got to do with coordinates and

(28:07):
presenting this coordinance of geolocation, and that geolocation has got
to do with the imagine geometry, the sacred geometry of
crystals and of atoms and of energy patterns that are
crystallizing in a particular pattern. So we're talking about the paternity.

(28:30):
We're talking about pata, which is the Sanskrit for patty,
which is father, and patre, which is you know, going
from Greek lineages into Latin for father, and I mean
this is basically your German. You've got far parder farther
and this this is universal, and then you've got the marta,

(28:51):
which is the feminine, and the feminine is a more
chaotic principle, and so the astral then represents not having
dimensionality in terms of a pattern. So the astrol is
extremely chaotic. It's just a fluid that you move through,

(29:13):
and as you move through it, whatever you're feeling will
imprint itself on the substance around you, and the substance
will become like a dreamscape. But it will be it
will have no conventions in terms of up, down, forward, back,
or any such notions. It will be completely abstract. And

(29:34):
as it is completely abstract, it it is. It is
not definable, and that comes from the root to the
word fire ash. The word ash is from the same
route as even in Daoism, when when you want to
invoke the fire element in the Daoist alchemy, you would
meditate on the sound of the hissing sound of serpents,

(29:58):
of the salamander, and the the hissing sound of this
is the sound that fire makes when it's burning, right,
And so that's that s has got to do with
the root of the word fire and strale. Strale means
a ray that's Germanic right. So you look at astral

(30:18):
it means that the ray that comes from fire, which
is essentially that which is emitted from heat and color
and produces a quality of heat and potential. And then
the f which is the beginning of the ending, is
that which delineates A from B produces differentiation, like the
floor is separating me from below, the air is separating

(30:41):
me from above. The idea of left and right, of
separating me from two directional perspectives, and the idea of
inside and outside. In the astral field, there is no inside, outside,
up or down. It's just one continuity of absolute abstraction.
In the etheric plane, you're literally on a plane that

(31:03):
looks like this plane, and it follows pretty much the
same rules. In fact, if you want to get right
down to it, imagine this. Let's look good dimensionality for
a moment. We're in the physical plane of existence now,
and the physical plane of existence existence you could see
as being a crystallized form of light, right, And this

(31:24):
energy of consciousness is producing matter marta, which is the
mother coming back to itself. But the mother isn't just
the pure mother. The mother has got the father inside it.
The pattern, right, So this mother has been patterned, So
the paternity has entered into the maternity, producing the child

(31:49):
of matter, if you want to consider it as such
a metaphor. Now, when we look at matter, matter is
contained with inner structure, and the structure that contains matter
is you could compare it to a kind of an
electromagnetic field of pattern, and that pattern is like a map,

(32:10):
and everything inside this is mapped according to the pattern
that that's in and that's the etheric field. And so
the etheric field is a hyperdimension and the matter is
a small dimension within the etheric field, and so when
you're in the ether, time slows down. There's a huge
change of time. Now, the ether is a structure that

(32:32):
is contained within an abstract field which is hyperdimensionally more
than the ether, and that is the astral, which are
the qualities, the qualities of heat and cold and light
and color and all these qualities are just mixing around,
and that they are based on an emotional state. So
you have the astral, then within that you've got the

(32:55):
etheric and within that you've got the physical and all
of these are existing within a higher dimensional field of
what we call the coursal field, and the coursal field
is really the fatal plity of it, so its qualities,
and it has split into its pattern, and the qualities

(33:19):
have surrounded the pattern, and the pattern has then become
condensed and crystallized because the pattern gets filled with the
potential of the qualities or the energy. So I get
this sense that we've misconceived of this notion of reality,

(33:40):
and this is all within this causal field. And the
causal field having split the way it has in this
diagram in front of us, shows that splitting rather well, right.
It shows how the balance between the coursal field emanates
outwards to produce the ida and the pingala. And the

(34:02):
ida represents your petuitary gland in your physical body, represents
your emotions, the hormones, and the currents of feeling. The
pingala represents your pinial gland. The penial gland is a
little pimple attached to the thalamus, sort of just behind
your ear in the center of your head, but in
the center, and the pinial gland regulates your central nervous system.

(34:24):
The regulates your optic nerve, the amount of light that
is being received, the way the senses are relaying information.
In fact, the thalamus is a filtration system for all
of the sensual information that travels through the brain from
the various senses. They go to the thalamis to be
re coded so that the thalamus is able to put

(34:47):
them into a contextual form of code that can then
be sent relayed to to the platy lobes where the
dream of reality is concocted and we experience the physical reality,
which is really just dream time. And each by the
pineal gland, except for smell. This is why I smell transcends.

(35:08):
The smell goes straight to the to the stem of
the brain and it connects with those deep, deep emotional
states and and and the the petuitary gland regulates your hormones,
and it's got to do with regulation of growth and
cell tissues and all of these these things which are

(35:29):
expressed as the hormones regulating enzymes and all the other
action sort of the different biochemical agents in the body.
And so you've got the emotions in the pituitary gland,
the hormone system, and you've got the rational thoughts which
we're moving through the central nervous system being carried through
these little cables and nerves through our brain lighting up

(35:52):
electrical discharges to produce a field that this extra dimensional
consciousness is able to enter into the body. And you know,
the consciousness is really what we're talking about. Everything is consciousness.
So when we think of this matter, this table underneath
my hands, or the ground under my feet, that's consciousness.
And we've forgotten this. And so this consciousness is the

(36:15):
substance of form that we experience physically. But the consciousness
comes from a place of pure thought. And so there's
this range from the causal field, which is that part
of the soul which moves into the body, and that
part of us that will move out of the body.
And when that causal soul moves out, it wears a

(36:38):
etheric and astral glove which will drop off here on
the physical plane or on its subjective planes closer to
the physical, and the causal will move from time to time.
But it's because the causal is that field of time, right,
and that field of time it's danced into linear packages

(37:03):
because of this polarization of id and pingala. And so
getting back to that other image, you can see now
I don't seem to be able to go back to
my other image. How do I move this thing. That's
a little bit tricky. There we go, Okay, there we go.
Managed So if you look at this image now, you

(37:24):
can see that this is the same idea as what
we've just looked at, right, but it's put into a
geometric geometric pattern, and this represents obviously the eight points. Yeah,
and this is the eight points of the octahedron. And
so we are in a structure which is like an octahedron,
and that octahedron structure within it contains a cube, right,

(37:48):
and that cube is represented here effectively. And so when
we start to pay attention to that, we start noticing
that the four, four, five, and six contracts into a
central point, right, and the other six points basically rotate

(38:13):
to form the vertices of the markaba or the cube
in terms of the astral space or etheric space. The
cube is the symbol for etheric and the marcaba, which
is a tetrahedron double faced tetrahedron, one tetrahedron spinning clockwise,
the other tetrahedron spinning anti clarchoires, and they're sort of
rotating through each other like that. Hard to describe, but

(38:35):
they're moving in different spins, and obviously you have this
fiery essence pulling the energy and this cool essence pushing
the energy, and they produce this centrifugal harmony imbalance, and
this represents the astral forces of quality. Then these become
more crystallized and they become the form of a cube

(38:58):
where you then have this vertices on the outside representing
the six directions right and this cube, which is what
they praying to it maker, which is what the old
Saturn cults used to worship, and just the word of Saturn.
Saturn was one of the earlier deities that was worshiped,

(39:19):
and Saturn used to have a skythe because Saturn was
the reaper, but Saturn was reaping the corn. So when
we're looking at depictions of the green Man, we're looking
at depictions of that which represents the abundance of nature
to bring food, corn, and wealth to you. So in

(39:41):
modern times we associate Saturn with the number eight with money,
but in all times we associated Saturn with green nature
because nature was what you could have, right, you could
have food in your bond. So there's an interesting perspective
of how we've changed our perspective of what Saturn represents.
But Saturn is the lord of time, and it's the

(40:03):
lord of time. Saturn represents rhythm, and the rhythm is
that the fundamental structure that vibration follows, because vibration is
bound by the law of rhythms, and the rhythm dictates
this linear movement. And that linear movement is happening because

(40:23):
number four is rooted. Because number four is rooted, number
six is maintaining the harmony of four, so that four,
even though rooted, can have harmony. And at the center
of that harmony is number five, which is movement. So
it's a moving, rotating axis mundi. But it's also been

(40:46):
depicted as a tree, right where you'll have the trunks
number five, you'll have the roots number four, you'll have
the branches and the leaves number six, for example, another
way of conceiving it, which is how it was conceived
of and in more ancient times. So this idea of
Saturn representing the structure of time has got a lot

(41:07):
to do with these ideas that we've become so enamored
by physical, physical things, and the etheric represents physicality, so
the astral represents spirituality. Yeah, because the astral is about
the qualities. It's abstract. It's about the feelings. It's what

(41:31):
do you feel deep down? Who are you? These are
abstract questions. What did you achieve? What can you hold?
What have you done? Those are physical etheric concepts, and
so we become so locked into the etheric that we've
lost touch with our feelings and the notion of time.

(41:53):
Just to bring it back to the cause or field,
these principles are what's locking us in to the our
store in the etheric. When we transcend the astroum in
the etheric and the cause of field, we are no
longer bound by time where in the Akasha. In the Akasha,
we're in the womb of the world, the world womb,
the egg, cosmic egg, and in that cosmic egg we

(42:14):
can experience past lives, future lives. Time is not binding
us because we think of time as being somewhere over
there or over there in the past and the future.
But all time is yere. The only way to explain
it is like this. Imagine like one point that's one dimension,
then two parameters gives us space. There's one dimension, it's space, right,

(42:41):
But in order to get from one dimension to two
dimensions of space, you need almost infinite points on a
flat plane. Right. Now, we've got this flat plane two dimensions.
How do we get to three dimensions? Well, we need
to have almost infinite layers and stacks of these flat
planes to produce the third plane, right, the third dimension.

(43:02):
So you can see how the one point is stacked
into almost infinite to make this the two dimensional plane,
and the two dimensional planes are stacked into an almost
infinite to create the three dimensional plane. And what the
three dimensional plane is is a lot of different two
dimensional planes interacting with each other. Okay, so what's the
fourth dimension. Well, the fourth dimension is when you have

(43:24):
a whole lot of almost infinite three dimensional planes superimposed
over each other. And those almost infinite number of three
dimensional planes superimposed over each other is each three dimensional
plane is like a snapshot of reality. But when you
run them fast, it produces movement. Right, But there's an

(43:46):
almost infinite number of them. So on some sense, you've
got to pick like image five a two one nine
two five followed by image two one two one three five,
and they've got a sort of link sync up and
link up. And from this reservoir of proverbial cosmic soup
of all these different three D potentials. We've got this
fourth dimensional package of linear or a worm like structure

(44:10):
moving through images that follow a causial route of existence. However,
when we go beyond that fourth dimension, so the fourth
dimension you can think of as time. When you go
beyond the fourth dimension of time, you've then got to
imagine all these different timelines. Heah. Now we're talking about

(44:31):
the multiverse, right. They're all the same kind of universe
as this universe, but they're all slightly different. Now, next
level of dimensionality. We've got all these different multiverses, all
these different universes like this universe, but all slightly different.
And you're able to jump from one of these universes
to another universe, and this is called transformation and change,

(44:54):
and we're doing it all the time. And so we've
got this almost infinite scale of these multiverse And then
what is beyond that, right, because that's now the fifth dimension?
What's the sixth dimension? Why you need to have all
these multiverses. But each multiverse is unique to the other multiverses.
So in this multiverse, the laws of physics are different.

(45:16):
In that multiverse, beings have got funny eyes in that multiverse,
beings of crystalline beings, right, And each multiverse contains within
it on almost infinite series of universes when you consider
the scale of us, and so all of these almost
infinite multiverses are existing here at one point. And so
we're able to travel between these multiverses, between the universes,

(45:40):
in the multiverses throughout consciousness of what it means to
be fully multi dimensional beings. And we could consider that
as the sixth dimension, right, and so what is the
seventh dimension? It starts to become obscure, right for the
brain to keep track of what what would that look

(46:00):
like if you have that multiverse of multiverses? Yeah, and
what you even call that structure? And you now you
would have to have an almost infinite number of those.
So what we think of as time when we come
back down from step step step step back into our
universe is these little linear structures. But these linear structures

(46:22):
are actually surrounded by all these other potential times. So
this is why we're able to see the future, real
live past lives have you know, prophecies have moments of
realization of things that are going to come in the future.
And why fortune telling and why we have spent so

(46:45):
much time in our lives learning to debilit these skills.
Why kings and queens have always had a quart astrology.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
For example, I want to get a little deeper into
the nature of the eighths beings that you mentioned earlier.
Some know them as arcns. First thing is based on
your understanding. Do you think these beings are outside of

(47:13):
what we understand is space and time and have the
ability to affect reality outside of that, or are they
within everything we've been discussing.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
Now, that's a really interesting question. My understanding of that
is relative and limited, if I'm completely honest. But what
I do know from my experiences is that you know
these beings are there, They're real, and that that it's
fhere isn't isn't the place you really want to tangle

(47:54):
with it. It's not the only place where other beings exist, right,
Just to be clear, there are beings that are in
this sphere that are a part of the sphere, which
is like a chain of life. For example, like my arm,
my body is all it's a lot, right. I think
of my body as just being my body, but my

(48:14):
body is a series of different individuals. Each organ is
a different being, and they're all interacting together, and they've
learned to cooperate so much that they become merged into
one body. And each one of these beings, each organ's
got its own emotion, its own consciousness, it's its own drive,
and they have to subsist together in a state of harmony.
But each being is part of a system, and that

(48:39):
system causes interaction between other beings. And if we look
at that system and that being, there are populations within
that being of different tissues, and each little individual cell
within that tissue is a being with its own consciousness.
And that's like just accounting for what like half of
the cells in our body. The other half are microbes,
and those microbes are foreign bodies that act as glue.

(49:03):
And the act is part of our immune system. And
the act there's various different parts digestion, enzyme production varies,
different microbial network that can keep everything together and keep
the system flowing and service all of the other beings.
It's like a service industry. If you will, you know
you're going to have a lot of people. So within

(49:24):
the universe of consciousness and energy, this exists in the
same way as it does in our body. But there
is an eighth sphere, and the eighth sphere is a
unique thing. From my understanding of it is that from
the text that I've come across, which the Book of
Giants and various different texts, and there was a great battle,

(49:45):
and the battle was between these two hundred beings that
descended on the earth. The oldest rout of them they
call the Igigi, that's in the Sumerian texts, but they
were called the gre Gordy by the Greeks, the Gregory.
There were two one hundred of them, and they came
to Earth, and these Gigi or Grigory decided to take forms.

(50:07):
And so now we hear about the Nephilim right, And
they wanted to live on physicality. They wanted to have
lives here. So they had to have offspring, because in
order to have a footprint in linear time, you need
to have generation right, so that you can reincarnate. You

(50:28):
need to have generations that follow you, right, because you
can't just incarnate here. There needs to be particular mathematical consistency.
So you need to put your seed onto the earth,
and that seed needs to prosper so that at some
point in life you can pop up again as one
of those seeds, right, like a plant, a tree putting
out seeds, and at some point that tree can grow

(50:51):
out again on another seed far away, and it's basically
the same tree, just about almost the same same information,
but slightly involved. And that's sort of like future lives
and past lives. These beings wanted to propagate here, but
they became corrupted by the space, by this earth, and
in their corruption, they caused a lot of harm to humans,

(51:13):
and there were wars, and then it says that they
were cast down and the prison was created for them.
In some accounts they speak about Gibreel Mikhail, Ariel Raphael
banding together, striking them down and seeing them in the
ethers of the earth, giving them their own, their own

(51:34):
abode where they were trapped. In other accounts, we've got,
you know, we've gotten a number of them from the
Arabic accounts, the the the accounts of the Persian and
the Greeks, you know, the nause these wars between the

(51:57):
giants and the gods. So anyway, the story is that
these beings were vanquished, and these beings were cast into
a place where they would await judgment, that they would
be trapped there now. Steiner speaks about the different epochs
of man, that we've come through four different epochs, we're
moving to the fifth epoch now, and that these beings come

(52:19):
from a previous time of the Moon matrix epoch and
of the Saturn matrix epoch, and that these were different,
like different epochs altogether, and that the beings of that
time passed away, but they were sort of being dragged
along by the universe that's recreating itself. And that the
universe will destroy itself and recreate itself from time to

(52:41):
time is another concept, and this is a very concept
of the Yugas. You know, they've got beautiful stories about
how Shiva goes to sleep and the universe goes out
of being and sleeps in the great cosmic oshes of
the cosmic cosmic egg, and then Shiva comes popping out
of Vishnu's belly button and the universe and dances back
into being and Brahma creates through Shiva's expressions and bang,

(53:05):
the universe is back into being, And that there are
mathematical cycles that the universe will uncreate and recreate itself
sort of like it does a sonic boom of sorts,
and some beings are left behind. So how these beings
got to be there, I don't know, but I believe
that the time spreen timestream reverses. So you get to

(53:26):
a certain point in the cosmic arc of where we are,
where we're moving now, and there's the idda and there's
a pingala. Right, So the ind is moving one way
and the pingala's moving another way. At the moment, pingala's dominant.
So pingala carries the forces of life and manifestation. But
I believe that at some point there will be an
inversion and when the universe pops out and pops back in,

(53:49):
then the idda will be dominant and the pingala will
be following. Now, the idda, the emotional side is repressed
and the rational logical pingala etheric. The etheric also relates
to your mental abilities, your logic, your ideas and thoughts
will be dominant. So these beings are facing the wrong
direction in terms of timestream, and they are being left

(54:12):
behind by time and their universe is their eighth sphere
is shrinking and corroding away until it will pop out
of being and they will be churned into fodder to
start the Journey of the Amiba, you know again, and
they don't want that. So what they do is they

(54:33):
are trying. They are trying. According to this is Steiner.
This is riot of Steiner from the Anthroposophical and he
got a lot of information from Madame Lavatski from the
Theosophical Society, which got a lot of their information from
the Resccrucians as well. But this is in alignment with
what we see in the Vedic law as well. It
doesn't seem to contradict. It is that at some point

(54:57):
these beings discovered that they could prey on human and
that if they could align human beings to be with them,
they could siphon off the life force, prana, soul energy
of the human to turn it into currency that they
can trade with in the aid sphere. And that currency

(55:20):
of trade is what they are able to maintain their
sphere with so that it's not disappearing out of time.
So their very survival depends upon them being able to
latch onto us. This is why they're vampiric beings and
why they want to suck our energies and why they
want to control us, because they want us all to

(55:41):
turn their direction, because we have this power to reorganize
the whole of creation humanity. This multi dimensional expression is
a part of our soul matrix. So when we all
are one of one mind, the whole universe sympatheticticularly aligns
itself with us, because it's all just consciousness, and we

(56:04):
are the top of the permit of consciousness coming into being. Here,
we are the biggest effect of consciousness intelligence in the
universe around this zone. And so if these beings can
align themselves with us, they can, hopefully, according to their
idea expressed by Steiner, is they can actually swallow this

(56:28):
universe into the AID sphere and make the AID sphere
of the new universe, which is like it's heavy concept.
The universe is corroding, it's breaking to pieces, and it's
falling into bits, and the only way they can keep
it is by sucking the life out of ours.

Speaker 2 (56:44):
The overall direction that human evolution is going, it seems
to be in part guided by these non human forces
passed down to the ruling class, as we were talking
about earlier, in order to steer society in certain directions.

(57:05):
And when we look at the technological age we're in now,
the degradation of human morality and compassion and connection to
nature and source. That would absolutely make sense that their
influence is guiding us in a certain way.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I don't want to talk about it too much, but
I mean, they're trying to legalize watching children doing things
that children shouldn't do if it's animated, right. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
Before we close out, I'd like to get into solutions
on how to navigate where we're at now. You mentioned
meditation in your talking points. Before we do, I want
to get your thoughts on the multi dimensional multiverse possibilities
of this reality. I've had guests on that have discussed

(57:59):
jumping timelines. Some of them have actually claimed to be
able to do this through various techniques meditation. I've had
other guests that have had near death experiences and claim
to now be existing in a different reality than they
were before. Others had near death experiences and it seems

(58:23):
that a completely different person came into their body after
having that experience. And I'm wondering if this is this
connects to the multiverse reality, that if it's possible to
jump into different timelines through various means, either near death experience, meditation,

(58:45):
maybe even psychedelics, what are your thoughts on.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
That, Well, I think it's it's happening all the time
for everybody. It's how time works, I see. I think
people people get caught up in that and they think, Wow,
it's something special. It's not something special, it's normal. We're
all doing it. We're doing it every day. Every time

(59:08):
that we transform, we shift, every time we shift our
perspective perfectly normal. And yes, this is how simple the
structure is. So it's happening all the time. And yes, absolutely,
I think it's just people's perspective are caught up on

(59:30):
that hyperdimensional zone and they're thinking that that's special. But
it's really like coming right down to the roots, the
roots of the tree, like as a gardener will tell you,
you know, focus on the roots of the tree, Focus
on the roots of the plant, keep the roots zone
healthy and the rest of the plant will prosper. And
so if we focus on the roots, Yes, absolutely, this

(59:51):
timeline shifting is a normal part of life. And when
we transform ourselves, the universe around us transforms. And this
is the magic of life. Life is magical. Universe is
a complete magical construct. We took about consciousness, a conscious
as a shell that comes out of the sea and
the conscience is blown in ancient India to call the
hierarchies of the angelic hosts and the spiritual beings to

(01:00:13):
come to spiritual war, right to come to aid. And Zeus,
Zeus is Jupiter, but in Verdic traditions just party, you see.
So we've got this and then we've got Zeus, and
then we've got just Jupiter Jus Peter, and we've got

(01:00:37):
Jispita and Diospitta, which is the sky Father. It's one
of the earliest dates he's worshiped in India. And so
this is relating to that which is transcendent like consciousness,
that from whence consciousness comes the father of consciousness, thine
father that Emmanuel was talking about to step away from

(01:00:58):
the churches, transformation of the of the the message right,
because there was a Google message. Unfortunately, you know, the
priests got hold of it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
They do that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:10):
But so consciousness is the substance of everything. So if
everything's mad out of consciousness, then when we change our consciousness,
everything else is changing. And that this is this is
this is a rule of manifestation. Manifestation is changing universes.
It's just a different way of presenting the information. It's
the same reality. If you're manifesting something, you're you're drawing

(01:01:33):
a different universe towards yourself. And now how to do
this That that's that's that's the real point and that's
where this this beautiful image comes into to play here
when we're looking at this the satin cube, right, you
know that central pivot, the four, the five, and the
six is what brings us into alignment. That's that's your

(01:01:57):
central column. And so we're talking about harmony. We're talking
about balance. We're talking about harmony. We're talking about striving
towards generating a harmonious state of being, a harmonious way
of connecting with other people in as much as we can.
And sometimes that involves being direct with people. Right, people

(01:02:21):
are full of crap. You've got to say, look, you've
made you full of crap, back off. It's not about
just being excessively tolerant all the time, Like we should
not be tolerant of people that mess with children. I'm
a father, you see how like untolerant I can be.
You know what I mean? Like, I think we need
to have boundaries, we need to keep it real in
the world. But at the same time, we need to

(01:02:43):
keep it real, you know, balance and find our own
balance and find our tribe and become close to the
people that we relate to. And that love care is
the structure of being right. So that's what brings children
into life. When a man and woman they love each other.
And you know, if a man and women are in love,

(01:03:06):
it's so much easier for them to have babies. Don't
know if you notice that, Like you really need contraception badly,
if you don't want kids, if you're not really in love,
it's it's harder to make babies. You know, There's there's
something magical that happens with that power of that glue.
And obviously that also keeps the generations together. Our parents,

(01:03:26):
like grandparents, keep the the cultural glue of our past.
And this is something that we've forgotten. So this digital crap,
we need to like, less digital, We need to less online,
less of all of the Hollywood mind control, because the

(01:03:49):
Hollywood is okay. So the holly is the tree of
the of the Druids, and the wand of the holly
was used to hypnotize, right, So if you needed to
be hypnotized, that's what the holly one was useful. So
Hollywood is a hypnosis engine. It's we pay for the
right to be mind controlled, which is really hilarious. There's

(01:04:09):
a lot of education, and it is a lot that
you can learn because they tell you they're dirty little
secrets while they hypnotize you. But how to withstand that
hypnosis and that's where meditation comes into it. You know,
meditation will be written about as a B C d EFG,
but really what it is is it's about coming back
to the center, and it's about your thoughts, your emotions,

(01:04:30):
allowing them to subside, and bringing the breath back to
the central pivot so that you can get to that
point where you are just here experiencing reality without trying
to change or imprint your thoughts or your feelings onto it.
And that's a that's a shift of awareness that gives

(01:04:52):
you the power to recognize what reality is and how
you can influence it. So meditation gives you that power
if you practice it, because you become aware and listen
to the word aware. I wear this body, but where
do I aware this body?

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:05:15):
This is about awareness space. If you understand your space,
you can control it. Right, if you know what the
perimeters of your land is you can build the wall
around your land. You can build a house. You can
control your space. In the same way that you can
control your space to keep the bugs out and the
snakes out and the spider's out, and safe environment for
your kids and keep it clean, you can do that

(01:05:37):
with your consciousness. Similar idea. So meditation is that way
of bringing back the mind from the madness that we're
inducing into our minds. And we are inducing madness through
the media, madness through our the way that we live.
We're being driven into this financial war with ourselves where

(01:05:59):
we're constantly having to run and jump through hoops to
get money to make ends meet or to actualize our dreams.
And the more we get, the more we seem to need,
the more we seem to want. It's an endless spiral.
So meditation gives us time to step out of that
and just look within ourselves and go what do I need?

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Last few minutes, you mentioned one of your talking points
shadow work. A lot of people may have a limited
understanding of what this is. Some people may have a
lot of fear associated with facing their shadow. What would
you tell someone that is really interested in starting the

(01:06:41):
healing journey, but doesn't know how to start, doesn't really
have a good understanding of what shadow work is or
where to begin with it. What would you tell them?

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
I would say that shadow work in shamanism we call
it soul retrieval. That's a nicer word, isn't it sol retrieval?
But sole retrieval and shadow work is much of a muchness.
So we repress so much of our feelings because of insecurities,

(01:07:14):
because of different emotional complexes, because we're tell ourselves nonsense,
because our parents tell us nonsense, because our schools tell
us nonsense. We take on the neurolinguistic programming, and we've
repressed as part of ourselves because it's not good enough.
We repress that part of ourselves. We try and become
that thing that we're not really in order to impress parents, teachers, friends, whatever,

(01:07:37):
And so we sculpt ourselves into becoming this thing that
we're not, and this thing that we're not produces all
the suffering, all the sadness, and all the harm that
we do not want to perpetuate on others. We do
it if we're having a bad day and we snap
at someone that's our shadows. So what do is shadow work.
Shadow Work is just going into our unconscious and processing

(01:08:00):
the motions that we've repressed, processing those thoughts about ourselves
that are harmful, those thoughts about others that are harmful.
Processing all of that information so that we can sive
it out. So like think of it as water. You know,
you want to you want to perceive the water. You
want to get out the bits out of the water.
You want to filter the water of consciousness. And the

(01:08:21):
water of consciousness has become dirty because we have allowed
all of our nonsense to go to the bottom of
the well. So now we're going to the bottom of
the well and we clean out the well, and we
just take out the bits. We just look at them,
acknowledge them, process them. Shadow Work can be dangerous inasmuch
as it can leave one very overwhelmed with emotion, which

(01:08:44):
is why it's got to be done in a careful
and intelligent way. You know, you don't, you don't. I
want to get strong. I'm going to pick up as
much weight as I can and do as much weightlifting
as I can for three days. You used to do
it slowly. You build the muscle bit by bit, get stronger,
get fitter, and buy and buy your bell to pick
up those heavy weights and shadow works the same. Starting small,

(01:09:08):
I always suggest like using nature, you know, using the sun.
Sun gazing is probably one of the most powerful tools
that there is for stimulating the positive hormones because of
the way that the pinial gland is stimulated and the
way that the pineal gland affects the petuitary gland when
the sun is touching your eyes, obviously only in the mornings,

(01:09:30):
like when its sunrise, because it can be harmful. You
can't stare at the sun during the day. But this
stimulates melatonin, serotonin. Don't put me in all these wonderful
good stuff in our brains so that we can get
into our natural eye. And so I would always say
to people, do a course of solo gazing for like
forty days before you start shadow work, and you'll find
that you'll be so uplifted by the solo gazing you'll

(01:09:52):
be ready to go into the shadow places within your
being and go. You know what, when I was a child,
someone said this to me. It made me feel pretty
crap about myself. And I've realized I've been carrying this
around on my shoulders my whole life. And you know what,
I don't need it. I don't need to feel that
way about myself anymore. And suddenly it's like a weight,
it's lifted off your shoulders and you feel empowered and
you know, so there are a lot of different techniques.

(01:10:15):
I actually did our whole two hour seminar for how
to do shadow work. It's see my channel. If you're going, look,
they're under my it's under my lives. But shadow work
in short, is not the way it's being produced or
the way it's been spoken about, like people try. And
I think the controllers don't want us to do shadow work.

(01:10:35):
They want us repressed because a repressed individual can be
easily manipulated through advertising and Hollywood mind control and food poisoning. Gosh,
you know, there's there's another element of it, like what
you eat. You want to clean your your brain out
as well, because the brain is like it's stuck in patterns.

(01:10:56):
You want to clean the crap out of the brain
so that the brain can make new neural pathways, and
those new neural pathways will open up aspects of our
repressed so unconscious that will reveal things about us that
bring us to a better state of wholeness and well
being one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:11:14):
That is great information for the people. Is there anything
that we didn't cover, any final thoughts that you'd like
to leave the audience with today.

Speaker 3 (01:11:25):
Yeah, with regards to the shadow work and the spiritual tradition,
there is the most powerful little exercise that you can do,
and it is praised by the rosa Chrustians, the Vedicts,
It's praised by you know, the the Anthropacifists, the the Theosophists,
just about every mystery school. And it's so simple. It's

(01:11:47):
called the daily recollection, and what it is is the
memory exercise just before you go to sleep. You just
start off with five minutes, ten minutes, and you can
increase it to be twenty minutes and twenty five minutes.
It's a kind of a meditation, but it's not a meditation.
It's you sit down or you can lie down, but

(01:12:08):
I would recommend sitting down and being really comfortable and
just in that point, see where you're sitting down, and
move backwards in your day from the point up until
you sat down, and just move backwards through your day,
observing especially how you felt and things that happened and
how you internally were affected by your day and just

(01:12:31):
move back from that to the point that you work
up in the morning. You don't change anything. You don't
have to recognize anything, you don't have to realize anything,
you don't have to write anything. There's nothing to do.
It's just a simple exercise of just observation, and you'll
find interesting these patterns. But if you do it every day,
then you notice patterns interesting that pattern that when I

(01:12:53):
speak to John in the morning, I feel this way
every day. So maybe like John's got like a bad
influence on me. Because we don't speak to John in
the morning, I end up having this kind of a day.
You'll notice things just as a pattern, and then just
you can jot down a few things on a diary
about your experiences of the recollection. If you do that
every day, that will prime your memory in such a

(01:13:17):
way that you'll be able to be trained to deal
with the little repressed things. You'll stop adding to the
repressions every day because that unrepresses emotions, but just for today.
And once you do that for one day, two days,
three days, twenty days, thirty days, a month, two months,
you start lightening the load of the shadow. It's a

(01:13:39):
very subtle way. But by and by other things will
start lodging loose because you'll notice, oh, these experiences have
had in patterns, and actually they remind me of that
experience and that experience and that experience. The key is
just not to turn it into a mental journey. When
you're doing your your recollection. Just run from the end

(01:14:01):
to the beginning of the day. Don't go off mind wondering,
write on a few jots on a piece of paper.
Diary and keeping a diary is really powerful. Like people
don't understand the strength of the diary. The diary is
the magical emblem of the heart. It's where you keep
all of your deepest emotions, you know. So yeah, that's

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Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
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Speaker 3 (01:14:26):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
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