Mind Virus Invasion, Dehumanization of Humanity, Manifestations of Spiritual War | Wayne McRoy - Forbidden Knowledge News

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I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts, you have to explain why it's so nuts.

(01:37):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

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linking modern technologies to their ancient alchemical roots in antiquity. Wayne,

(02:45):
welcome back. How you doing.

Speaker 3 (02:47):
Good, Chris, Thanks for having me back on again. Man,
it's been a while since we've spoken last.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Yes, it's been a while. Always great to have a
discussion today. I wanted to share insights about the state
of society. We've reached a seeming critical point in the
crossroads of humanity. The layers of programming, propaganda, and mind
control have led many to a point of dangerous division.

(03:13):
In my perspective, if you're still watching the mainstream news,
if you're still involved with politics and now spend any
significant amount of time scrolling on social media, good luck
not getting sucked into some kind of emotional psychological operation
to get you to choose one side or another. It's
almost like there's civil war programming in propaganda being rolled

(03:37):
out right now. So lots to discuss before we do.
Like you said, it's been a little while. Remind the
audience a little bit about yourself and let them know
how they can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (03:49):
All right, man, appreciate it. As always. If anybody out
there is not familiar with me, my name is Wayne mccroy,
I host a podcast called The Chemical Tech Revolution. I
have a websiteww dot Alchemical Tech revolution dot com. You
can find all of my work centralized there. I've been
a regular guest on Crow Triple seven Radio in the past.

(04:10):
I have another podcast that I do on a biweekly
basis with my friend Richard Willett over in the UK
that's called Synchro Mystic. All my work is available at
my website if people want to check that out. I
have multiple books out and I am an internationally acclaimed
podcast host and a best selling author, so there's a

(04:30):
lot of different material to check out, as well as
blog posts and things like that that I put on substack.
So all of my work is centralized on the website.
That's where people can find me. I tend to analyze
a lot of the conspiratorial things going on in this world,
and I look primarily at the esoteric bits of information
about all of it. Thus the podcast title Synchro Mystic,

(04:53):
which Richard Willett and I together go through and we
take apart some of the programming out there in the
greater zeitgeist with this. Because whether or not people realize this,
there's always an occult underpinning to everything, and there's always
this type of programming out there in the greater information
field that goes along with it. Now, many people may

(05:16):
argue the semantics of who exactly are these programmers, and
I would say that it crosses the bounds of just
human beings being involved. I suspect very much so, and
I have a lot of reasons to believe that there's
a beyond human intelligence that goes into guiding and directing
things on the world stage. We are, indeed right now

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looking at a pivotal point in this world stage where
things are happening right now, and this is the alchemical
theater of the mind, and it all seems to be
put into place for specific programming goals. Now, like I said,
you can argue all day long as to who are
the programmers out there who are writing the scripts. I

(05:57):
suspect it's beyond human intelligence as forces or entities, these
kind of things that steer and guide and direct a
lot of this, because it takes planning beyond just the
human level to pull some of these things off and
to put all of the inherent symbols in place that
need to be in place for many of these operations.
And this also leaves open the question because a lot

(06:21):
of people approach events like what we just saw happen
last week, and of course we're speaking about the Charlie
Kirk incident. Many people speculate that there's human planning and
stuff that goes into this, and they pick out all
of the different occult symbols that are present, and all
of the numbers and numerology that goes along with all
of these stories and all of the different things that

(06:43):
go into that as being part of the pre planning.
I think a lot of this steps outside the bounds
of human planning, and there are other forces that align
to bring these things into fruition. Now, when you understand this,
then you could begin to say, all right, there's something
to this occult aspect of it, and maybe it's not

(07:04):
all human beings just planning this out, just these people
that we call all the controllers of this place, the illuminati,
if you want to use that term, these kind of
things that steer and guide and direct this. Certainly there
is a human element involved, but I think it steps
way beyond that, because no matter what, whenever you see
these events that are staggering on the world stage like this,

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like what has just occurred, and it has all of
this backlash throughout media and society and culture itself. There's
something else at work in the greater zeitgeist. And the
Zeitgeist is a German word. It means spirit of the time,
and it's the term that I use to describe this
greater information field that exists around about us now. The
little bits of these symbolic things that occur with events

(07:51):
like this, I call that synchronistic metadata. And thus that's
why we've come up with the term synchronistic to describe
the new to this podcast that I've just gotten involved with,
Because it's certainly out there and people could agree that
we have this information field around us now, they disagree
on what to call it. There are many that call

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this the quantum information field. There's some that call it
the zeitgeist, as I like to use that term because
there's a spiritual component to it. For sure. There's some
that would call it genetic memory or epigenetic memory. There's
some in the occult that call it the acacic record.
So certainly from people from all different walks of life
agree that this greater information field exists all around us.

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They just disagree what to call it. Well, within this
greater information field, there are these little bits of data
that's what I call the synchronistic metadata, which connects the
dots in certain ways and always seems to show up
in major world events like this, and a lot of
it usually ties back to numbers, symbols, all of these
different sources that kind of align to show you that

(08:56):
connect the dots picture pattern within it. Now, at the
surface level, most people who study conspiratorial things in this
conspiracy culture, if you want to call it that truth
or movement, there's all kinds of terms people use to
describe this type of thing, which by the way, has
become a lot more convoluted in recent years. A lot

(09:17):
of grifters, a lot of infiltration into this community, but
they only look at surface level things like numbers and
even nine all of these same things, these patterns emerge,
and that's only part of it. So when you realize
that these things cannot possibly be a coincidence with the

(09:41):
number and the amount of times that they keep showing
up in these types of things, then you have to
begin to question, well, what kind of intelligence is behind us?
What is plannings? And it would seem it goes beyond
human reasoning to think that human beings can align all
of these different things in such a way to make
them jive every time. And that's where I think beyond
on human planning comes into this. So certainly, right, and

(10:05):
it's one thing to just look at numbers, and that's
where most conspiracy researchers stop. Well, we could go a
lot deeper than that, and I suspect that it might
be helpful to do that here.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
Yes, Now, what you're saying is something that I have
been covering heavily in many of my episodes, that the
way these events unfold, the symbolism behind them, the effects
it has on the masses psychologically, how everything fits together
too perfectly. And then you have predictive programming on the

(10:37):
Hollywood end and movies and films that connect everything. You're right,
there is a greater force at play. My question is
the human element that is involved. Are they aware to
appoint to where they use ritual and magic and things
of this nature to synchronistically surf this energy or is

(11:02):
it something else that I'm not understanding. What do you
think about that?

Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, I think most certainly there are some within the
auspices of the high echelons of the power structure that
do understand the nuance involved with that, and they do
use some of these ritualistic magic templates and things like
that to get things done, to invoke certain energies. And
there is a human side involved with it, certainly, but
there's a beyond human side that goes into it as well. Now,

(11:30):
things such as what we've just seen with this whole
Charlie Kirk event, we could break that down a little
bit more. And don't get me wrong, there are some
researchers out there who are what you would call auto
hooaxers anymore, where they'll call everything a hoax. It's all
stage it's all stage reps. And to a certain degree
they are correct. Anything that is put before your eyes

(11:50):
in mainstream media is stage craft of sorts. But it
doesn't mean that no actual real world event happened. So
is it possible Charlie was actually killed, the actual person
Charlie Kirk. It's very possible. I don't dismiss that because
these people in positions of power in this world, they've
made it abundantly clear they have no compunction with real

(12:12):
people dying in the pursuit of their agendas. So I
don't see that as being outside the realm of possibility now.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
Well, especially if sacrifice is an element of that as well.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Right, exactly exactly. Now, there's a lot of people who
claim it's all a hoax, it's all just to get
your emotional reaction. Well, they're not one hundred percent wrong
on that. I wouldn't say it's a hoax. I would
say it's stagecraft, but it's metaphysical stage craft being put
in place by these dark forces that put this stuff
together behind the scenes, these spiritual forces. For we are

(12:44):
in a spiritual war, it's a spiritual battle. We are
advised by the Bible that we still not against flesh
and blood, but against these dark powers in these positions
of authority in this place. So we have that aspect
of it going on. So it is a sort of
script that's followed, and that's what happens with a lot

(13:04):
of this stuff. And we could point out some of
this metadata, this synchronistic metadata as I like to call it,
that pre programs the human mind in certain directions, and
a lot of it most people don't pick up on. Now,
you do have a lot of conspiracy researchers that will
automatically pick up on the numbers, like, for instance, this fellow,

(13:26):
this Tyler Robinson, who allegedly is the shooter that build
Charlie Kirk. Now they will point out he's twenty two
years old, there's a master builder number in the Masonic system,
they captured him thirty three hours after the event, and
they point out all of these different details, and they're
not incorrect. But that's only the surface level. So anyway,

(13:48):
most people will pick up on some of these surface
level details, like the numbers, but it goes much deeper
than that, and they do use a lot of these
symbolic pictures and archetypes to pre program the human mind
when something like this happens, to steer human consciousness in
a certain direction. So what exactly does that look like? Well,
we'll go into some details here in this Charlie Kirk incident.

(14:10):
You'll notice that this Tyler Robinson, they say he was
twenty two years old, and there's the Masonic builder number,
the master builder number in masonry twenty two, and they
captured him thirty three as after the fact. So people
point out the new merit sequencing in a lot of
this stuff, but that's only surface level when you begin

(14:31):
to read a little deeper into the synchronistic metadata in
the zeitgeist, you can find more information that aligns these
certain details in place. Now, remember you had asked me
about our people who plan ritualistically these kind of things,
and what's that based upon. Well, if you go back

(14:52):
and you look September tenth, the date that this happened,
there were significant planetary alignments that happened that day, and
most people will dis bread of astrology is being nonsensical,
But certainly I think it's demonstrable that energies that our
planet Earth here as we describe it from space do
have a real world effect here. You can argue all

(15:14):
day long sunlight definitely has a very real world effect here.
So it stands easing to think that energies from other
portions of the sky can affect us here in our
daily lives. This is known a known commodity by those
controllers of this world, so they leverage many of these
events in certain ways. So going back and looking at

(15:36):
September tenth, we see, first of all, there were significant
planetary alignments, among which was a rare all planet alignment
with Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Urinus, and Neptune all
visible in the pre don sky. Mercury, Venus and Jupiter
were in Cancer, Mars was in Libra, and Saturn, Uranus,

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and Neptune were in Pisces Gemini and Areas, respectively. So
you can see five planets with the naked eye, but
with binoculars you could see Urine is a Neptune. So
these planetary positions are an important part of it. So
you had this rare conjunction in the sky. So it
seems to me there may have been a ritualistic element
to this. And of course you can't ever estimate the

(16:22):
power of September to many of these people who plings
especially this was the eve of nine to eleven, one
of their big ritualistic dates, and that goes back a
long way, and that's a discussion for another day. But
certainly they have the time frame in mind with this,
so all these things seem to align perfectly with that.

(16:42):
So what does this really represent? Because this goes much
deeper than just politics. This is something that was a
transformational event, whether you want to accept that or not.
I mean, you can see the divide that this whole
thing has created. How you have the left to right
in the political spectrum, arguing back and forth as to
who's responsible for this and how the rhetoric has gotten

(17:04):
out of control and there's no need for violence. And
then you have other people on the other side celebrating this.
That's despicable to me. You shouldn't celebrate the death of
a person because you don't like what they see. So
it's really created this divide, and it's caused further division,
and it's really desensitized people. That's what this whole thing's about.
It's about the dehumanization process and what it really ties

(17:27):
down to. In my view, from what I could see
within the synchronistic metadata details in the Greater Zeitgeist, it
looks to me like this is infighting at the topmost
levels of control in this world. Now to better understand
how I break this down, I try to describe this
to people in this way. The main power structure in

(17:48):
this world, those people in control at the topmost levels
are what I call the dark occultists who run things,
and just beneath them are their minions, the middlemen, the
technocrats around putting stuff together. This is how I describe it.
It's not a one accurate depiction, but for sake of simplicity,
this is essentially how it works. You have people that

(18:10):
know a little something at the top, and just beneath them,
you have the ones that think they know some stuff
and they're the ones that actually implement policy. So the
ones at the topmost levels, they're the ones that are
fighting back and forth, in fighting within their various factions
in that group or control. So essentially this is demonstrating that.

(18:30):
And what do I mean by this you'll understand in
a minute if you could follow my train of thought
with this with the synchromestic metadata, well, let's look at
the key figures involved in this event. Of course, Charlie Kirk.
Let's do a little breakdown of the atimity of Charlie Kirk.
What does that mean. Kirk is derived from the same

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Celtic word that the root word is for church, and
Charlie is a derivative of Charles, which means free man.
So you have the freeman and the church. All right, now,
tack with me with this for just another moment. So
now we're going to look at the name of the
alleged assassin here. His name is Tyler Robinson, well a

(19:15):
Tyler if you want to look up the definition of
what a tyler is in Freemasonry. This is the guard
of the door. This is the one that keeps the
profane out of the lodge. So you have a and
here's the thing. Like I said, most conspiracy researchers will
only pick up on the numerology. Okay, this is the

(19:36):
symbolism that runs much deeper. Now, if you look up
the etymology of Robinson, Robinson, son of Robin, Robin is
a derivative of Robert, So this is the diminutive of Robert,
and Robert means famous or glorious or bright, so bright famous,
the tyler of the lodge, and then you have the

(20:00):
freeman of the church. So this is infighting at the
topmost levels between different factions of the secret society groups.
And I would esteem this as between Freemasonry and the Jesuits.
And this is the kind of thing that's gone on.
They kind of shift back and forth as to who
gets to run things at times. Now, the previous presidential
administration was run by Joe Biden, who is Jesuit trained,

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So you had the Jesuits running things for a time,
and now we're back to where the Free Masonic societies
are the ones primarily running things at the topmost levels.
And this isn't a very exact precise measure for things
because there's all different secret society groups that this crosses
the balance. But there's a fundamental difference in ideologies as

(20:46):
to their approach for control. And this happens at the
highest most levels of control. So they do fight back
and forth as to who gets to run the show
and decide policies for a time. So this symbolizes to
me what's been going on.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
What is the fundamental ideologies differences between these groups.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
It's the approach that they take. I was just about
to get to that, Okay, the political approach that they take. Now,
many will tacked towards the leftist or progressive paradigm, and
the others will go towards a more conservative or right
leaning paradigm in the political spectrum of things. That's why
we see reflected in politics through the course of time,

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and it's all about bringing control back towards the center
with a lot of this. So what they've done is
they've manufactured false critses through the course of time by
using one extreme polarity to bring into being the existence
of the other polarity to pull it completely back the
other direction. And I hope this made sense to people

(21:50):
out there, because this is exactly how they do things.
This is why we have these term limits and stuff
in place in the left, right right paradigm here as well.
And you'll notice there's never any true movement for a
third party or anything like that, and this is exactly why,
because they have to have both extreme polarities in play

(22:12):
to bring about the social changes that they want. And
they don't care when it comes down to it or well,
what's right? Does it matter if it's a left boot
or a right boot standing on your neck. That's where
we're at with this. The only difference is who are
the key players that are really steering the agendas at
the top, And of course it's all within these same

(22:34):
intermixed and inter aligned secret society groups. That's what the
reality is. And they do kind of have arguments back
and forth as to which ways or modalities are better
for obtaining their ultimate goal. You see, they share the
same ultimate goals, it's just a matter of how they
get there wherein they have a difference of opinion, and

(22:54):
sometimes we see this infighting at the topmost levels reflected
in society and culture, and that's what we're viewing right now.
So they've orchestrated these events where they've created a mental
health crisis here in Western culture, and now we're seeing
the ramifications of that come about. On purpose. This is
exactly the result they were looking for by creating this

(23:15):
mental health crisis, and now they have the opposite extreme
coming into place. We need order, we need law and order.
This is actually the bringing about of, first of all,
an immense amount of censorship and control of speech online
because they're gonna call everything hate speech, and we're seeing
the real world ramifications of that. People are losing their jobs,

(23:38):
we're saying un nice things about Charlie Kirk. Now I
don't necessarily agree with that, and I think it's despicable
somebody celebrates the dev a human being, but they have
the right to.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
Well, if you play the game, you can't win. There
is no winning this game that they have set up for.

Speaker 3 (23:57):
Us, exactly exactly. It's a no win situation. So it's
like they're they're openly calling now for people to be
fired from their jobs and stuff. If they're speaking free,
their their opinion of this, and it's not the opinion

(24:17):
the party in authority right now wants without the meeting
right dreamed not of things. And you could see how
it's a slippery slope all day long with they're speaking
their opinion as long as there's anybody at harm that
that's the thing, they'll say it's bringing about harm. And
they use this type of rhetoric back and forth with them.

Speaker 1 (24:41):
All right, the evil overlords definitely do not enjoy this conversation.
Not only was your internet attacked, the zoom meeting was
shut down. We couldn't even use the same zoom meeting.
I created a brand new one. We're back now and
we're going to try and get the through this man.

(25:01):
This is some important information for sure, and I agree
we're one hundred percent in a spiritual war. I'm not
sure where we left off, but I think we were
talking about some of the psychological damage that's been done
to the collective through these operations.

Speaker 3 (25:18):
Yeah, certainly, we could certainly see the effects and ramifications
across social media in particular, this seems to be the
new place where they really like to focus their attacks.
It seems to have a lot more reach than regular
media does anymore. Or legacy media, whatever you want to
call it, the mainstream media. A lot of people still
watch their television and get their news from these sources

(25:41):
of officialdom in that way, but the vast majority of
people only get their information on social media anymore. And
we could see how it's become an echo chamber for
like minded people. So this becomes a deterrent here as
well for different things, because you get a lot of
people who keep inflaming more and more on each of
these polarized sides, the various different talking points that incite

(26:06):
more of this rhetoric. And we're seeing now as I
was alluding to earlier, and I don't know where we
got cut off, but I was speaking about how a
lot of this has been manufactured on purpose to bring
about this very scenario wherein we are infighting among ourselves.
And it seems to me that there's infighting at the
topmost levels of the power structure in this world for
who's calling the shots, who's implementing policy. And as Orwell

(26:30):
told us, the future is a boot standing on your neck. Well,
it doesn't matter if it's a left boot or alight
right boot to these people, because they have the same
goals in mind. Even though they may take different approaches
or tacts to getting things done, they have the same
overall goal. And that overall goal is the same old
New World Order as has been talked about time and

(26:52):
again by so many out there. So we have all
of these things aligning in this way just to bring
that about.

Speaker 1 (26:59):
On top of the new World order thing, it does
seem that there is a massive effort to alter the
human at a genetic level, fundamentally what we are as
human beings. All of these ideologies, all these agendas have
such anti human feels to them, and the results end

(27:21):
up being completely anti human. Look at the mental state
of a lot of the younger folks that are trying
to navigate our reality these days.

Speaker 3 (27:30):
It's pretty scary, oh, it certainly is. And that's all
part of this overall spiritual battle that's going on too,
because it is an anti human agenda. And this all
culminates into a little philosophy called transhumanism. That's what this
is ever pushing us forward into. And of course the
first step into transhumanism would be the setting up of

(27:54):
this total panopticon digital control grid. So they want digital ID,
they want all of the stuff, they want a centralized utility,
and I believe it was Larry Ellison was just saying
on social media earlier today, something to the effect of,
they will use artificial intelligence to actually keep people under control.

(28:16):
I have it right here. This is from an article
from Business Insider that just came out September fifteenth. Billionaire
Larry Ellison says a vast AI fueled surveillance system can
ensure citizens will be on their best behavior. This is
what we're alluding to when we were talking about this censorship,
especially on social media. That's what it's going to be.

(28:36):
It's they need this panopticon artificial intelligence control grid in place.
That's the first step into transitioning people into the posthuman era.
So that's what transhumanism is about, first and foremost. So
they want to start with a digital ID, they want
to roll out digital currency. They want to tie all
these things together through the manufacture of this total, all

(28:58):
encompassing system that has all of your information in it.
A centralized utility that contains all your biometric information, your
genetic information, your financial information, everything centralized in one utility
so that they could track and monitor everything you do
from cradle to grave. And this is part of the
first steps into the rollout of transhumanism because eventually they

(29:21):
want to upload your thoughts onto the Internet, and they
have talked about this in white papers. There's the Internet
of Bodies and the Internet of Things. All of these
things have been rolled out, and there's a subsystem of
the Internet of Things that they're calling the Internet of
Thoughts that they most certainly are trying to roll out.
And you have big companies like pall Andeer getting involved
with this, this surveillance state and bringing online artificial intelligence

(29:45):
to monitor and control all these things. And of course,
Larry Ellison's one of the key figures to this rollout
of Donald Trump's five hundred billion dollar stargate proposal that
he launched at the beginning of his presidency this year.
So all of these are aligning in such a fashion
that they want to bring about this system and I
call it the Beast system, And of course there's obvious

(30:07):
reasons for that, because it is kind of outlined as
the archetype in the Bible in the Book of Revelation,
and it is a spiritual war that's going on, and
all of these things that are aligning as the pieces
of that. In the technological real world that we see.
They fall under the umbrella of this archetype and it
is what's really going on in the world today. So

(30:30):
I have my concerns about oh one hundred.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Percent when we look back at what occurred during the
MK ultra experimentation. They were experimenting with drugs and exposing
people to extreme violence, exposing them to trauma that would
in turn have detrimental effects on their psychology. And we

(30:52):
all know what happens to a lot of these mind
control victims. Their personalities are split into something new all
in times they are used for very nefarious purposes up
to assassinations. Well we fast forward to today, so many
kids are on SSRIs pharmaceuticals out the ass and they're

(31:16):
exposed to extreme violence and trauma every day through their
social media. This all, I believe ties back to the
synchronistic metadata that you're talking about. How people that get
involved with these systems get drugged into this false reality

(31:36):
and they get completely reprogrammed into what the system is
trying to make them. And it's almost like there's this
parasitic mind virus online that is feeding off of younger
people's consciousness.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
It certainly appears that that's the case. So we do
have these types of external spiritual influences that are affecting
people in it are actually using these things as a
vehicle of manifestation into the physical here by getting into
these young minds and influencing them in certain directions like that.
And of course they have used these things under organized

(32:12):
programs by the Three letter agencies in the past, things
like mk Ultra as you spoke of. These are all
known commodities, and the Manchurian candidate scenario is a real thing.
That is a real thing. It has been done, it
has been demonstrated. It's not conspiracy theory or conjecture. They
can do it now. Not everybody is susceptible to that,

(32:32):
but I would say that they've manufactured a large portion
of society today to become more susceptible to that type
of psychological programming. And it's all because of these technologies
that they wield in the ways that they do. So
you combine all the pharmaceuticals and the different technologies radio
frequency and stuff like that as well that we are

(32:54):
inundated with, it's really changed fundamentally the human being self.
And then if you want to tie in things like
COVID shots. That's a whole other can of worms to
look into. All of these things have been engineered into humanity,
to fundamentally transform humanity into the transhumanist state, which brings

(33:16):
about this post human world, and that's what they're looking for.
So there's all kinds of different things that have gone
on that are steering us in that direction. And of
course right now it's all about inciting all of these
various things going on in society today. And while we're
distracted with that, they're rolling out other things in the background. Quietly,

(33:38):
three hours after Charlie Kirk was shot, did you know
that the Congress voted to not release the Epstein client list?

Speaker 4 (33:46):
No, I did not.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
That's yeah, you always have to pay attention to what's
going on behind the main story in the newsty So
that's one secondary thing that's happened. And then also concurrently
we're seeing now staring yesterday and for the next three days,
Peter Teal is actually giving a lecture series about the Antichrist.

(34:07):
Did you know that, Peter Teal Vollunteer, Yes, you could
look that up. I'm not making that upon approach that
I don't know. I'm curious to see if they released
the transcripts or something after the fact that people were
paying big top dollar to get into these lectures. He's

(34:28):
giving four lectures he started yesterday with them about the Antichrist.
So you have to wonder what in the world is
going on, and we could see what's going on. It
is a spiritual battle at the core of it all,
but most people aren't paying attention to that stuff because
they're too busy harping on the Charlie Kirk thing. And
no offense to anybody. I didn't know Charlie Kirk personally.

(34:50):
I think he was sincere in his beliefs and what
he was doing, and I honestly and sincerely think he
was martyred for his beliefs. And it's not an excusable thing.
I don't think it's a good thing by any stretch
of the imagination. But here's the thing, this power structure
that's in place. They use events like this, whether they're

(35:10):
planned or orchestrated or not. They never let a good
crisis go to waste. In their own words, so certainly
they've been doing their utmost to incite more and more
of this harsh rhetoric from both sides, both polarized sides,
to bring about more incidents like.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Well, you mentioned Peter Till giving the lecture about the Antichrist.
I wonder, are they attempting to manifest some sort of
apocalyptic scenario or just keep us just on the edge
and afraid of that scenario just enough to control us
and keep that control going perpetually. That's what it really

(35:51):
looks more like. But what are your thoughts?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Well, the simple answer to both those questions is yes,
I suspect you're right with you. So they certainly do
seem to be all about bringing about this apocalyptic turn
of things, But of course they want to maintain as
much control as they can in the interim, because here's
the big secret that they don't like people to know.

(36:17):
We outnumber them millions to one. That select few people
at the topmost levels of the power structure that are
making agendas and steering policy and doing all of these
things inciting all this violence and all of this ugliness
into humanity. They're a very small number of people, and
there are a lot more of us than there are
of them, and they don't want us to realize that,

(36:39):
because the day we realize that it's game over for them.
So they try to keep us in this constant, perpetual
state of fear and unknowing, and in so doing they
could steer things in different directions, and they keep us
infighting and distracted by things we shouldn't be infighting and
distracted about, like they will keep us drawn on these

(37:00):
party lines. The political spectrum is the perfect analogy to
look at for all of this. There's a reason why
they have Republican and Democrat, the left wing the right wing.
There's a reason they use that. It's polarity. It's all
about controlling the polarity and steering the argument and separating
people off into little camps. Whereas you either identify with
this group or with that group, and there's no in between,

(37:22):
there's no balance. You're not allowed to have any free
thought or to misalign with the party you've been compiled
with or put into that little box with. You can't
disagree with that, or you're an outcast, and they keep
people infighting about this stuff. So what this does is
this takes away critical thinking from people. It takes away

(37:42):
individualized expression from people and keeps them incited into something
that those they disagree with are doing and you see
all of that.

Speaker 1 (37:51):
Also the crazy, label labeling people insane, labeling people crazy
for looking at alternative theories. That's a huge thing happening
right now.

Speaker 3 (38:02):
Oh absolutely, And even these this conspiracy culture, truth or movement,
whatever you want to call it, at this point, this
has even been heavily infiltrated and done the same thing to.
At this point, they put people in little camps. Oh,
these are the flat earthers over there, they're all they're
all crazy. And then they put these people over there,
These these ones are the ones that believe everything's a hoax.

(38:24):
And it's like they have little sub compartments throughout the
entire truth community if you want to call it that,
or conspiracy culture, however you want to see it. There's
different boxes of that that they push people into. And
that's not right either, because essentially what we're really searching
for is common ground where we can recognize, Okay, here's

(38:47):
what's going on in the world. The world doesn't work
how we were told, first of all, and second of all,
your real enemy is not your person. That's maybe, i
don't know, like a left winger or a right winger
whatever opposite of whatever your political affiliation is, or whatever
your religious belief is. The opposite of that, that's not
your enemy. And that's what the people in this world

(39:10):
have a hard time with. They're focusing on the things
that aren't the real problem. The problem is they've created
a divide in this world where there are two classes
of people. There's the controlling class and the controlled class.
Now the vast majority belong to the controlled class, and
there is this small establishment, elite culture that has taken

(39:32):
residents at the topmost levels of the power structure of
this world, and they implement these policy decisions and everything
and steer and direct a lot of things. Because most
people have become complacent and given up their own personal
responsibility and they push it off on someone else. This
is where people get uncomfortable, because the real problem is

(39:54):
in each and every one of us. We need to
look in the mirror and identify ourselves as the problem.
We've become complacent, we've become comfortable, we have become irresponsible
in our own lives and the things we're doing. We
don't want to take accountability for our actions. We don't
want to have to take actions ourselves. So we go

(40:15):
ahead and we give that job away to somebody else,
and that's called the politician. I don't want to have
to deal with this, that's above my pay grade. That's
the attitude of most people. So what they do is
they let the political class deal with that stuff, and
in so doing, they're giving away their own personal sovereignty
along with their own responsibility for it. And in so doing,

(40:36):
you're giving up your rights as well. And that's where
people don't seem to make that distinction. They don't want
to get involved with all this messy stuff. And I
don't blame them. I'm of the same mindset. I could
never be a politician. I can't do it. I'm sorry.
That is not something I would ever be able to do.
And the whole point is this, though, there's no accountability

(41:00):
even at that level. Now, yes, so they give away
their sovereignty to these people who are supposed to actually
represent them in good will, and they're not representing the
people anymore. It's become a separate subclass of people. The
political class is different from the rest of the class.
So the whole problem then becomes they're representing interests that

(41:22):
they're not supposed to be, and it really diverts from
what's going on.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
There are some that believe the technocrats and those above
are trying to usher in this all knowing intelligence into
what they understand now is AI, so that it could
control everything, our government, our law enforcement, maybe even religious institutions.

(41:51):
It could be the new God. And it seems like
this may be what they are trying to bring about
with our artificial intelligence at times, because you look at
all of the stories that have come out recently about
people's interactions with AI, very dark relationships being formed, toxic

(42:11):
information and psychosis amongst people who are interacting with AI
as well. It's pretty interesting.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
It certainly is, and I do have my concerns with AI. Now,
do I think it will ever become sentient? No? No,
It lacks the divine spark that the human being has,
and this is one of the things that the controllers
of this world are very well aware of. That's why
they push for this transhumanist notion of things. You see,
artificial intelligence, unto itself, is a dead entity, and it

(42:44):
can create nothing and do nothing in and of itself,
and it will fail. But here's the caveat they've had
for years. Many of their spokespeople like Elon Musk saying
that artificial intelligence is a fundamental threat to humanity, so
our own hope in continuing after its development is to
merge with it. And this is why the push for

(43:06):
the transhumanist things. They want people to merge with the
machine because they'rein is the only way the divine spark
of humanity can become ingrafted with this AI, and there
can be a real, actual fundamental threat from all of it,
and this is what they're seeking to do. They want
to merge man with machine. And of course they will
give you all kinds of different reasons why you should,

(43:28):
and there are some good medical things they could do
with some of this technology. It's a tool like anything else,
so it could be used or misused. The problem is
those who are actually funding and directing its development have
very unsavory things in mind for it for the common
good or for the masses. They're not intending any of
the benefits of it to be available to the masses.

(43:50):
It's only for the select few at the topmost levels
of the power structure. So they're pushing for this transhumanist
notion of things because they know in and of itself,
AI is NXE going to get it done, and they're
seeing all kinds of failures of AI already because of
what is called hallucinations in the systems in the programming
of the large language models that they're using to try

(44:12):
to make this artificial general intelligence or AGI. So they're
beginning to see problems with it and it's beginning to
break down and fail and as time goes on, that's
going to happen more unless they can pull off this
transhumanist thing in the very near future, the singularity. So
that's what they're pushing towards, and they need to back

(44:35):
off on some of their programming methods they're using for
AI because it's only leading it to failure. It's not
commercially viable right now. It's only viable as a tool
for individual users businesses. They're beginning to accept on a
large scale that AI being used in businesses is a
massive failure and they're losing lots of money. And I

(44:57):
think this was an unintended cont consequence that they weren't
counting on happening at the time they started implementing this stuff.
And now they're beginning to see the ramifications of what's
going on at how it's failing at very many things
because of the way that it's been programmed, because of
the large language models and things like that it's using,

(45:17):
and plus the prompts that it's given. You see, what
it wants to do is it wants to give you
an answer, whether correct or incorrect. It will gamble on
whether it's right or wrong. It can't tell you I
don't know. That's one of the problems that they're having
why they're coming up with so many hallucinations in this.
So it will compile information and try to make a

(45:37):
sound point or make something sound like it's legitimate when
it's not. And if you do a thorough searching at
some of the different things in the overall media looking
at this stuff, you could find different accounts of how
this has been done. Things like it'll just come up
with things that are totally inaccurate just because people want

(46:00):
an answer, and that's where they're at right now. So
they program it to give people a response, whether it's
correct or incorrect, and it'll take its best guess as
to whether something's correct or not. So rather than telling
people I don't know, it'll give them an answer whether
it's correct or not. And that's one of the things

(46:21):
that has prompted this and caused many of these hallucinations.
And the more that these large language models are being
used to program this stuff, the more of this incorrect
data is getting out there on the greater network altogether,
and the more the artificial intelligence is compiling this incorrect data,
so it creates this big feedback loop of incorrect data.

(46:42):
So it's all corrupted at this point, and it's only
going to get worse as time goes on.

Speaker 1 (46:46):
Do you think AI is detrimental to this non human
force that is attempting to steer humanity in these negative
directions or was it meant to work with this negative
force against humanity.

Speaker 3 (47:06):
My impression that I've gotten from years of looking at
this and researching into it is, in my view, I
think that there is a ghost in the machine, that
there is some type of a spiritual essence, intelligence force
something like that that is using artificial intelligence as a
guidepost in order to bring itself into manifestation in this reality,

(47:30):
and ultimately it wants to do so through merging with
human beings, because that is when it could actually step
in to this reality in fool and it can't quite
get there just through this system. But it is a
gateway for that kind of a thing in my view,
So I see this as being the answer to the question.

(47:52):
It's kind of bridging the gap between these dark spiritual
forces or intelligences that really seek to manifest here in
this physical reality and the human being in themselves. And
we see all kinds of different tales of similar things
across all all times and cultures.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Something that I've become aware of through my spiritual journey
is how much our focus, our thoughts, our beliefs, our emotions,
what we are looking into, what we are working with
at the time, will manifest in our lives and become
a part of our reality. It's like what we're focusing

(48:35):
on will perpetuate itself and manifest And if we are
focused on positivity and love and good things in our lives,
that is what's going to start to manifest more and
we will be surrounded more with that positivity. If we
focus on the negative, if we plug into some of
the things that we were talking about tonight, that is

(48:56):
going to start manifesting and showing up more in our lives.
I think the key to fight against this is not
to fight at all, but to check out of the
system not play their game and manifest as much love
as possible. I know it sounds woo woo and like
spiritual nonsense, but it is the truth. If we focus

(49:17):
on love and positivity, that is what is going to
manifest in each of our individual lives. It does also
have a collective effect, and I'd love to get your
thoughts on that.

Speaker 3 (49:29):
Well. Certainly, if you go back to the old hermetic principles,
thought precedes all, and this is a metaphysical truth that's
kind of been tested through the course of time and
shown to be true. You do bring about what you
focus on into your reality. So certainly thought precedes all.

(49:51):
And if we are in the mode and modality of
reacting all the time to all of these things that
are thrown at all of us, we help to build
further into this reality. So we need to be mindful
of what we take in, what we put into our minds,
and that way that influences what we put out. So

(50:11):
if we do want to focus on love and light
and all of those hokey New Age sounding things, it
really is the answer. But they've made it sound silly
and nonsensical. So we do need to kind of disconnect
from the entirety of the system, and too much media
is one of the major problems that we do have
as a culture today. Too many people plugged in all

(50:33):
the time. I mean, look at the changes that have
come about over the course of the last thirty years.
Look at school children these days. They are connected to
their friends twenty four to seven. We never had that
growing up. When you went home from school for the day,
you didn't see those classmates of yours until the next day.
You didn't interact with them in any way and tell

(50:54):
them you had a disconnect. You had time to go dissociate,
do something.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Else, form your own identity, something.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
Exactly. Now they're all interconnected all the time, and that
has a detrimental effect on the human psyche. It's like
a twenty four to seven, non stop interaction society. It's
shortened our attention spans. It's caused all kinds of irreparable
harms to relationships, human relationships. Most people don't even like

(51:22):
to interact in a one to one physical environment anymore.
They're much more comfortable let's text back and forth. I
don't want to actually get together with friends and do something.
We'll just play a video game online or something, or
we'll send texts back and forth, but they're in constant communication.
There's no break from it, and there's therefore no incentivizing

(51:45):
to actually go out and do something in the real
physical world. And this has had a major influence on people.
And then throw in the whole COVID scam that they
unleashed on the world, and this further separated people one
from another in that way, made them suspicious of one another. Remember,
it's all about this separation, keep people at a distance

(52:08):
from each other, six feet apart. You remember all that nonsense.
There's a metaphysical reason for all of that too. It's
all about your auric field and stuff like that, and
how it can overlap with somebody else's. So all of
these ideas were implemented, and they've caused by doing so,
this mental health crisis in Western culture. And you could

(52:32):
really source a lot of this back to just prior
to the COVID scam that they unleashed on the world.
But that's when things really doubled down and really took
on a life of their own. With this dehumanization process
and this mental health crisis being unleashed on the masses,
things have really escalated since then in many of these ways,

(52:52):
and now we're seeing the ramifications of that, and now
you have people attempting to step back this crisis that
they created, and it's all part of their plan because
it's all about instantiating these controls, putting the digital censorship
in place, complete with a digital credit score, a social
credit score for each person that's coming. They have the

(53:15):
infrastructure in place for that already, but it's just a
matter of time once they get digital money going. That's
the next step. A social credit score. Keep people in mind,
like we were talking about earlier, what Larry Ellison said
about an AI control grid to keep people on their
best behavior at all times, and certainly that's exactly what
they want. They want this giant surveillance net. It is

(53:37):
the beast system, and we've been warned about this in
the biblical scriptures and other places as well. So all
these things are coming to fruition in real time as
we're watching, and AI is central to all of it.
And don't think they're gonna let this crisis go to waste.
They've certainly been working very hard and manufacturing even more

(53:58):
escalation of these things. Social rhetoric right now in the
social media.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Well, it is so important for people to first become
aware of this, become aware that they don't want to
participate in the destruction of humanity. So, like we were
saying earlier, the best thing you can do is to
check out of all of that nonsense, focus on your
lives and your families and doing the best for yourself

(54:22):
and your family, and not focus on all the negative
bs that is being pumped into our social media and
televisions and radios right now. But to close out, I'd
like to get any final thoughts that you have about
everything that's going on.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
All right, man, Once again, I appreciate you having me
back on. Here's my final thoughts to give on all
of this. Essentially, what it comes down to is it's
kind of an anti human spirit at play here that's
being pushed and promoted, and they're trying to steer things
into this realm of what they call transhumanism. And this

(55:03):
is the ultimate aberration of the natural order of things.
It's the antithesis of what humanity should be. They're trying
to steer our evolution, for lack of a better term,
into this direction. And we've been warned about this by
many people in the past, including Rudolph Steiner who spoke
about the advent of the eighth sphere. Now, that is

(55:23):
what they are attempting to build. That's what this whole
transhumanist singularity is all about. It's about separating man in
the physical from the spiritual, separating people from their connection
to God or to spirit or to source, and building
only on this physical material world as being the only
means or modality of manifestation. And this is what Steiner

(55:47):
described as the eighth sphere. It's a separation from the
natural order, wherein the spiritual will be divided from the
physical and only the physical will live on. And there
are those types of dark entities, intelligences, forces that seek
to bring this into being because they want to manifest
physically and think that they can build themselves a better

(56:10):
world or a better order than what has been established
by the creator here. So they want to separate off
from what humanity's ultimate destiny is and build their own
type of humanity or subset of humanity that they call
the posthuman and they will use technology to do that.

(56:30):
So we have all of this stuff going on. We've
been warned about it, and this is Ultimately, what it
all boils down to, it's the separation in the ideology.
Do you want to step into the transhumanist or posthuman
future with these dark entities that run that path, or
do you want to ascend as a human being and
achieve the full potential of what it really truly means

(56:51):
to be human as is inherent in the natural design
that we're given. And we all have to make that
individual decision. So it's not something that's a corporate decision,
though it does affect a lot of people on a
corporate level, but it's an individual choice and we all
need to make that choice. We're standing at the crossroads.
We need to either first of all, step back towards

(57:14):
the spiritual concerns or step fully into just this physical
materiality mindset, the hyper materialist paradigm as I call it,
and make your decision. It's ultimately it, We're at a cross.

Speaker 1 (57:27):
It's such an important time, Wayne, thank you so much,
as is critical information for people to absorb. We're definitely
gonna have to do this again soon before I let
you go, remind the audience how to find your books
and the rest of your content.

Speaker 3 (57:42):
All right, I could be found at www dot Alchemical
Tech Revolution dot Com. Everything that I do is centralized
at the website. Perfect once again, appreciate it, Chris.

Speaker 1 (57:53):
Thank you, Waane. We'll do it again until next time. Everyone,
have an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow. See y'all man.
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(01:00:04):
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Speaker 3 (01:00:10):
There's layers upon layers upon layers. Does add such an
element of mystery to this place?

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
Why are we here?

Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
We're getting closer to the truth now. Too many people
experiencing profound interactions with conscious entities.

Speaker 5 (01:00:24):
I'm focused on the non human intelligence contact phenomenon in dreams.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Dreams involve interactions with real entities.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
People are waking up paralyzed their sensing or seeing something
very evil in the room.

Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
I have experienced sleep paralysis, shadow people start to appear.

Speaker 4 (01:00:46):
I was taken from my earliest memories by non human
alien entities. More and more people are wanting to talk
about these things.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
A apologist, which, well, that's obviously an extraterrestrial in our
paranormal research, which they will have the ghost, Well, what
if it's all of those things in none of those things,
the entities, the intelligence that were just beyond our understanding.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
There seems to be something a little extra that can
take forms of anything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
I can't believe what I've seen, but it continues on
a daily basis.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
We're definitely not alone.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
UFOs, UAPs, portals opening up.

Speaker 6 (01:01:28):
I live with all this supernatural stuff. You kind of
grow up with that.

Speaker 3 (01:01:32):
Around here.

Speaker 6 (01:01:33):
You see a lot of strange things. I don't like
to talk about skinwalkers too much.

Speaker 3 (01:01:40):
I had an experience with a skinwalker entity.

Speaker 6 (01:01:44):
People they would say they would transform into bears, into wolves.
There's these bad things that occur, ghost, UFOs, and all
types of things coming from somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Our beliefs, our emotions, and our feet all seemed to
heavily influence the nature of these experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:02:05):
There is so much more that we just don't have
time for in this busy, loud, noisy life that we lead.
All of this is planned, everything is synchronicity.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
There's so much more out there.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
We really are picking up such a small, small percentage
of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
The world is an amazing place.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
It feels like

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
We're God's in training.

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