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(02:42):
Rise podcast. She shares her insights from her journey and
escape from a Mormon cult. She is also a psychiatric
nurse that works to help others struggling with mental health issues. Heidi,
welcome back.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
How you doing doing great? I love this presentation and
it's always evolving, so I'm excited to share with you today.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
I'm excited to hear all about this. We're talking a
bit before we're gonna dive back into your research surrounding
the Mormon Mafia. Last time you were on, we touched
on it a bit as you presented some information about
their involvement with the jfk assassination. Another fascinating presentation, and
I'm really looking forward to learning all about this myself today.

(03:28):
But before we get to that, briefly remind the audience
a little bit about yourself and let them know how
they can find more about you.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
Perfect well. I am Heidi Love of the Unfiltered Rise.
Yes that is my real name. My parents were weird.
People ask me that all the time. I am at
the Unfiltered ricepodcast dot com. I'm everywhere podcasts are served
or podchasers that you love. Spotify is gonna be twice week,
YouTube is once a week. They're kind of punishing people,
so I try to stay out of the punishment to

(04:00):
get my whole channel taken away.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
So from what I heard, they're giving some people back.
William Ramsey just got his channel back. They're doing something
where you could submit some kind of paperwork. I haven't
submitted anything yet, but I will because I had forty
thousand subscribers on YouTube when they popped me.

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Oh my gosh. Well it seems like they're giving out.
It's almost like they're rotating the people, like, oh, you
have too many, so you go away, and now you
can come back because you went away for a while.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
I don't know who knows, man, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
It's probably the Marmins and the you know other people
that we won't.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Well, we were talking bit be Federal and you've got
some groundbreaking information. You've got some info that we'll hear
here for the first time. Very excited for you to
share that. But where should we start with this presentation?

Speaker 3 (04:51):
I am going to share the screen because I always
do this, and I feel that you know enough people
tell me that I'm full of it. I just always
make pictures to go with my presentations, because yeah, pictures
worth a thousand words. Yeah, so we're gonna minimize this
and I will show you what I've found out about
the Mormon mafia. And the Mormon mafia isn't my coin term?

(05:15):
Actually funny enough? It is from a Playboy art. So yeah,
back in the olden days there, they really did read
it for the articles, and there was some articles in
there about Howard Hughes, and they coined the term Mormon mafia.
Is everything else gone on your screen? I set this
picture here perfect, and so this is a really old

(05:38):
picture of Howard Hughes and his mother, and that is
where we begin with the Mormon Mafia. There would be
no Mormon Mafia without Howard Hughes, so and I dare
say there would be no CIA without him either. Oh wait, anyway,
we'll talk about that. His mom is very interesting. And
whenever we talk about people back in the day or
even relevantly now, we have to look at their family.

(05:59):
It's just something have to do to understand their psychological makeup.
For people that don't think that plays into things, it
very much, does. You know, Your personalities usually formed by
the age of five, and Howard at this time is
going through a really weird situation because his mom is
extremely worried about polio. She is, you know, worried very

(06:21):
excessively about Howard, and in fact, she gets into this
situation where she is examining him daily naked, She's checking
his bout movements. He's still sleeping with her as a teenager,
which can cause psychological issues in itself, and she is
what we would call nowadays OCD, possibly Munchausen by proxy.

(06:43):
It's a very strange situation. In fact, a lot of
people don't know this, but Howard went psychologically deaf, like
there was no reasoning for the deafness, and psychologically was
paralyzed for almost a year when he was young. So
we're not talking a little bit of problem here. We're
talking yeah, it's affecting him clearly. And at some point

(07:05):
I think his dad steps in because he goes off
to school and they have warned his mother never have
any more children. You know, this is a really bad situation.
You won't survive it. And sure enough, she has an
ectopic pregnancy and dies just before Howard is eighteen. Then
he has to come home from school and the dad

(07:26):
admits it was simply because he was sad, Like he
literally said, I need you home. I mean, I can't
do this by myself basically. And his dad was an
ex oil wildcatter, whereas his mom was a Dallas debutante.
And this dad is, you know, very involved as far

(07:48):
as money with engineering certain new things, which leads to
all of Howard Hughes's money. And so he makes this
drill bit that's specific that everybody needs for groundbreaking. And
so he makes this and a lot of people say, oh,
it was because he was this great inventor or whatever,
Well not exactly. The reasoning behind it was because he

(08:11):
was at a bar, so they say, and he was
sitting next to a guy that was talking about how
they needed this specific stuff to break through the ground.
And Howard Hughes's dad was like, hey, I'll give you
a hundred bucks for that idea. So he's dynamics, Yeah, Hughes.
Howard Hughes's drill bit becomes like something that everybody has

(08:33):
to have basically in the drilling like universe period, and
so it becomes a huge company, honestly, and then his
father shortly after he makes all this money, Howard Hughes
Tool Company, all this stuff, Hughes's home taking care of
his dad. He dies dropstead of a heart attack at
fifty four in the middle of a meeting. Yeah, so

(08:55):
he has lost both his parents and he is not
yet even And back then you had to be twenty
one to take over an empire, and he basically had one.
At this point. Family kind of challenged him on this.
The only family he really had was an uncle that
helped raise him off and on in the midst of

(09:16):
all that chaos, and Howard is nineteen and he says, look,
I'll pay you off to go away. Here's some money,
quite a substantial amount, or I'm going to sue you.
It did go to litigation, but it was dropped and
they settled and Howard ends up taking over that company.
Nineteen year old Howard at that time, he is now

(09:36):
this very huge money man. He can do whatever he wants.
He marries the social light Ella bots Rice of Rice University,
where he was going to school until that very dated
he dropped out, So I think maybe there was a
story there, because he takes his bride and runs off.
He goes to Los Angeles and he says he's going
to become a film director and I would put better

(09:57):
pictures in here of her. However, I like the one
of them together. This is the only photo I've ever
found of them together half chopped in half. So yeah,
it was really random. You know. The Rice family of
Rice University is very interesting in itself, let alone Hughes.
I often wonder if this was an arranged marriage or
some sort of deal on both of their parts. I'm

(10:19):
not sure, so very interesting. So his next wife is
where we get into some of the other things that
happen in his life that start to make him crack
because wife number one, she kind of gets left in
the dust. She missed her family, she could going back
and forth to Texas, and he just doesn't have time

(10:41):
for that. He gets into projects and he's like, in fact,
they're quoted saying, she said to him, you have to
come home on Thanksgiving or that's it. And he goes
to know Ad Trick, which was his manager at the
time of his money, and he's like, you've got to
come with me. Well, Noah had a family and everything,
and he was like no, and Howard insisted actually, and

(11:04):
so Noah Dietrich goes with him too Thanksgiving and apparently
he was like, I don't even know why we're doing this, like,
I don't even care about any of these days. He
didn't do birthdays, he didn't do things, he didn't do
any of it. He just cared about business. So that
doesn't go over well with women, just so men. No usually, Yeah,
she disappears after that. Shortly she files and they get

(11:27):
a divorce. And this woman comes into the picture, and
this is Jeane Peters and their marriage is very interesting.
Howard is extremely i would say, manic and OCD at
this point. He is into this film stuff, but he
likes her to come in and he just stares at
her for twenty minutes a day and he never touches her,

(11:50):
and then he dismisses her. But he's extremely concerned that
she's gonna cheat on him.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
Hello, he said he was into film stuffing, is.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It he's making he's making films at this time, like
and so in Los Angeles, and so of course, if
you're not being a husband to your wife and you're
just staring at her for twenty minutes, maybe yeah, maybe
that might be a problem for her. His IQ was extreme,
Like with with Howard, he was like IQ of one

(12:21):
fifty nine. So not even Elon beats that, Like this
man is is so brilliant. He's not brilliant. You know,
people people get like this. It's kind of sad. So
Jeane and him are are having issues and he brings
this guy into the whole situation over this. And at

(12:42):
this time, he is staying in fabulous Las Vegas and
this is actually where he was staying at the Desert
End back in the day. He's getting super weird at
this point, he's running around the top floor naked. He
sometimes wears a pink dinner. I'm not kidding on any

(13:03):
of this. And he gets pushed out of his own
board at this time, and he has to make a
sell of his airplane company. He's got tons of companies
at this point. And he's also worried about taxes. Back then,
the taxes were insane if you were in like a
certain tax bracket, and they forced him to do this payout,

(13:26):
which a lot of people saw on the aviator. And
when this happens, he has this the biggest check that
was ever written period up to this point to him
to him, so he doesn't know he's stressing. That's why
he's running around naked. I'm imagining. I can't prove that,
but he's kind of Brake's.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
Gonna ask you if you had any ideas of what
was causing the breakdown, if it was just his own
mental situation, or if there was outside influences.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
I think he was so worried about losing his money
that he was freaking out because they were gonna take it.
And also this woman, and we're gonna talk about what
he's worried about with her here in one second, but
first before we get there, we're going to finish with
the desert In. At the desert In, these people are like,

(14:16):
you have to leave, like you're weird and you're running off,
you know, everyone, like there's no tinted windows, like get
the hell out of here, naked guy. And so he's like,
you know what, I'm just gonna pull a big d
move and tell you to get the hell out of here.
How much for you to leave? And so he does. Yeah,
he buys the desert In and he has a little

(14:39):
help with this with his new friend that he's just made.
And this man is part of the Mormon mafia, but
he is not Mormon. He's one of the only ones
that are not Mormon. And this is Bob Mayhew. Well
Bob got hired by Howard to spy on his wife
and so he is supposed to find out if she's

(15:00):
cheating or what's happening, and according to Howard Hughes's statement,
he made it worse. But yeah, he becomes one of
his aids and one of his most trusted aids, even
though he never ever met Howard Hughes face to face ever,
and he actually ends up hugely important in his company everything.

(15:23):
So without ever meeting him, he becomes this integral part
of his company, which is so strange and so we
kind of look at that and go, okay, but why right,
Like seems strange and Mayhew, you have to understand about him. Yes,
he was hired as a private investigator for Howard. However,

(15:44):
his background is amazing. So his life is actually the
one they used to base Mission Impossible off of. He
was in the CIA and the f Well, he's CIA associated,
he's been in the FBI. He has worked with some
very interesting characters and I wonder if even Howard knew

(16:06):
this and that I don't know, so, but he's the
chief executive of Nevada Operations for Howard Hughes at this point,
as Howard puts him into position. He started nineteen fifty
five and he was hired to investigate the wife. Like
I mentioned, he had a history of being a spy.
He has delivered politicians and Nixon to the CIA and

(16:30):
or FBI. He worked with Nixon before this and in
nineteen fifty four had a campaign against on Nassas and
the King of Saudi Arabia. He was also involved with
the Bay of Pigs, the Backle. He was associated in
the Mob with Johnny Roselli and he was an advocate

(16:51):
for sam Gy and Kanna, and so these guys were
basically in his pocket, and that was how he was
able to acquire the desert in because remember the Mob
owned everything back then. I mean, this was their their deep.

Speaker 4 (17:09):
Oh so deep, you have no clue. In fact, he
was one of the first. He was involved with the
first what is it alien crashes back in the day.

Speaker 3 (17:22):
And yeah, yeah, I'm trying to phrase that correctly. And
so he had worked for ten years as well, like
in the FBI in Chicago. So this guy is like,
he's all the way in. I mean, it's just wild.
He's also a Nazi sympathizer and yeah, yeah, he's very

(17:44):
he's very interesting, to say the very least. He was
also involved with Bush and we're going to get to that.
But this guy is got his hands. I mean he's
everywhere in the CIAD classified docs. He is like everywhere,
and so just so people know that and put that
in their pocket about him so that we can, you know,

(18:04):
recognize him for later. And like I said, this is
his tye, Sam gene Conna, and so this is a mobster.
If people don't know because it's been so many years,
I know you do, but you have you have like
the authority living right by you. So Cory Hughes. Yeah.
So also there's another guy that comes into the picture

(18:26):
about this time, and these two do not get along
very well. And so this is his last name is Gay.
His name is Bill Gay, and Bill, I know, unfortunate.
It's yeah, Billy Boy. You know, Billy boy's a Mormon.
And so it's even funnier to me because the Mormons
call each other brother and sister. So he's brother Gay.

(18:47):
So I mean it's funny. He's connected. He's definitely connected
all over the place. He's in with Nixon, he's in
with my and John Meyer is a really close friend
to Howard Hughes. In fact, he was one of the
people that actually did meet him and speak with him

(19:09):
face to face. He's wrote a book, I think it's
upstairs called Age of Secrets. It's a really good book.
He's old, old, but he is still alive and so
but this man has since passed away. And Gay was
originally hired as like a Aeron boy. He has no
basic college, he didn't have any of the background of

(19:33):
the FBI and all this stuff. He's kind of just
an associate of all these things. He's not as big
as some of the other people, especially Mayhew. However, Mayhew
couldn't actually speak with Hughes. Everything goes through the Mormon
mafia where they call them his nurse maids. But they're not.
And I'm going to prove that, I mean, were the
nurse maids Mormon? Sure? Sure, great, everyone was Mormon once

(19:57):
Bill started hiring period. They say it was Howard Hughes
that liked that, and I think he did at first
because they didn't drink, and they didn't smoke, and he
hated the smell of cigarettes and he didn't like the
smell of alcohol. He was really OCD. Like I said,
so he did like that factor. But also he puts
this guy in charge, and he's a Mormon, so he's
running the show. So of course you know he's gonna

(20:19):
be in charge of everything. And in fact, there's a
lot of ties even with RFK and I do a
whole separate thing on that. But this gets into what
we are going to coin. Like I said, Mormon mafia,
not by me, This is it back in the day.
So he was also his chauffeur, and he became senior

(20:40):
executive very shortly by the eighties, and actually before that
was running things under like under the table. And so
this guy is all over everything. When I talk about
Bill Gay, he actually continues to control things after death.

(21:00):
He gets the best payout and we'll talk about that.
And his family is still relevant today and I dare
say the Mormon mafia lives on through his money. So
in nineteen seventy one, Hughes Air West's control was given
to Gay on the executive committee. He worked fifty nine
years with Hughes company. He was with Sumacorp until nineteen

(21:22):
seventy eight, which is the original corporation. And I believe
that's our next photo. No, not yet, all right, and
Sumacor is a funny thing because with Gay in charge,
they kicked Howard Hughes off his own board. Yeah, they
did that, and so they cided this is their original

(21:43):
logo here back in the day, and they cited that
he just wasn't well and he obviously couldn't do all
the things. But you know, Hughes was making different appearances
and things and being called to committee during this time.
He still was working a little bit it mentally, he
wasn't fully gone. So I don't know if there were
spurts or what was happening there, but nobody knew the

(22:07):
extent of anything. And we don't know how much this
comes to call as far as being kept a captive with.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Drugs until you're not useful anymore.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
Tell you want to be a real boy, right and
he and he's the king, right and he who has
the king makes the rules at this time, like Hughes
is funding the CIA, and we can kind of go
over that. But if you look at these people on
this board, look at the names. Irving S. Shapiro, oh Okay,
lawyer obviously, Frank William Gay a doctor, a lawyer. The

(22:43):
board of Trustees is all these people Okay, that are
I mean another attorney and another doctor. Okay, why are
there so many doctors on the board right? This is
a tool company at this point, and it makes you
kind of question And there are many questions that I
have about Howard and medications and doctors here. Pretty soon,

(23:04):
I dare say Howard suffered a lot underneath these men.
But before he suffered, he prospered, and we want to
talk about his prospering first. And with his prospering we
get into E. Perry Thomas. And E. Perry Thomas is
a Mormon. He was sent to Las Vegas to open
up the first bank to settle out there, and he

(23:27):
was also the first banker to lend to casino owners legally.
So this helps chase the mob out of town. Literally,
this probably would have never happened if the mob had
some foresight. But like I feel, this was all planned
through three letter agencies to get the mob out of
control and get the new mob in town into control.

(23:48):
And they did. They did. Yeah. And so E Perry Thomas,
even though he's this banker and he's known as the
quiet king maker, he was first at the first Continental
Bank of Salt Lake City, and then he changed over
to open in Vegas. He was sent there and he
changed all the corporate rules for casinos to become corporatized.

(24:08):
And so the only thing about him was he also
had a previous past to being a banker. He was
World War trained paratrooper and skier and work for intelligence.
Of course, he was like, what why are you a banker?

Speaker 1 (24:21):
Bro Like, that's never really been to Vegas, but from
what I hear, it was a lot more fun when
the mob was in charge of everything.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Oh, I'm sure it's kind of it's kind of sad now.
Like back in the two thousands, I used to live
near there and it was a heyday. It was super fun.
But nowadays it's very like you can't just go to
a club. You have to have reservations. Everything's bottle service.
It's all changed now. It's not as fun as it
used to be. It's very high scale, and it's probably

(24:51):
more the playground for elites, is my guess at this point. Yeah,
and if you're not one, it's gonna be it's gonna
feel like you're not one, is basically yeah. And so
you know, this guy is a big part of all
of this changing and the funny thing is is, yes
he's the banker, but everybody doesn't just have tons of
like disposable money. Yes, Hughes does, but he's only going

(25:11):
to share so much at this point. And this is
a bank, so I mean, he's not going to share
with the bank unless he's purchasing something. He's pretty you know,
like into his own money. Obviously, this gets him into
all kinds of trouble trying to keep it. And so
this guy here, he's interesting. You have to understand something
about him is Perry's heroes. We're two bank brothers, and

(25:34):
that is Mariner and Eccles. Well, if anybody knows anything
about Utah, those are names that live on and to
this day that Eckles and Mariner is like a huge
like they're huge corporate banks. Even to this day they're
very very very big, and they are very very very rich.
And so you know, we have to understand Perry Thomas

(25:57):
is tapping there. He's one of the first to tap
the pension funds of the teamsters and so to you know,
write he's a white collar crime. So let's be real.
He also was the friends with this George Eckyls Mariner,
who just happens to be the chairman of the Federal
Reserve Board from nineteen thirty six to nineteen forty eight.

(26:18):
And as this guy is so close to Perry. George Eckles,
you know, son, the son of Perry, is quoted saying
George Eckle was kind of my dad's godfather. And so
we're talking like more than a business relationship. They're besties, clearly.
And so he is fully helping Howard acquire so many

(26:40):
places at this time that eventually when he tries to
go buy another hotel, which was Circus Circus, they shut
him down and said, no, you can't, and he was
he challenged it, and they said, well why, and he said,
because you will literally own all almost all of Las
Vegas if we do that. So they put a stuf
up to that, and Howard Hughes couldn't obtain the Circus

(27:03):
Circus at that time. But interesting enough, Perry is the
one that's going through and making these purchases for him
and orchestrating all this, which is completely illegal. I mean,
you can't do that. I mean, so we've got this
interesting you know, FBI three letter agency asset Mormon bankster,

(27:23):
which is weird running this whole show with of course Mayhew,
you know their buddies, so and Mayhew is what he's
three letter agency, and with who else? Gay who's the
Mormon that I he's not in, but he's an associate,
you know, so E Perry Thomas doesn't quit there. In fact,

(27:43):
for those that don't know, Steve Wynn, who owns much
of Vegas you know now, was also financed by the
same person, E Perry Thomas. E Perry Thomas actually quoted
of Steve Wynn that he is my other son. So yeah,
this goes on and on into probably today, and we
just don't know the names anymore. You know, it's real.

(28:06):
They really did chase the actual mob out of town
by the nineteen seventies because they made the rules so
hard that the real mob couldn't pass them. And we
see this in the movie because you know, you know,
you see the people start freaking out and they're like, hey,
blah blah blah, I can't pass that. In this you're
making it impossible, and they just show the Mormons as
dumb cowboys. But that's not true. So yes, there were

(28:28):
dumb cowboy Mormons too, but that's not all they are.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Yeah, they were just part of this infiltration of the
parasitic ruling class that has taken over everything.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
Now right, Ah, you have no idea, and we're going
to talk about it. It's so bad. So of course,
with all this chaos going on, you know Howard is
still working and doing new deals because he is still
needing to finance all these things and get his money
out of his pocket per se. But he doesn't want
to gone, so he starts working with the government and

(29:01):
that seems very weird to me. But he also starts
yeah he I mean, you know, you're trying to keep
your money from the government, but now you're working with
the government. I'm confused. It's kind of like when Brigham
Young came out here to Utah and he was like,
I'm running from the government because they're trying to get me. Oh, also,
let me help you finish your railroad. Okay, that's a

(29:25):
real story. So you know, these things we see on
and on into like you said today, honestly, it's just
a big wheel that we're never gonna figure I mean,
we'll figure pieces out, but it's so big it's it's
never gonna be the whole thing. So for anybody that
doesn't know this plane, this was called the H four Hercules,
but this is the Spruce Goose, which he hated that name. Yeah,

(29:50):
and so he was building these planes and trying to
use less metal, and you know, he was considered like,
I mean, he's super smart. He was the guy of
the time. Is the Elon And this is from the
New York World's Fairs. This is a real little ad
Hughes Industries rocketing into the future, clearback in nineteen thirty nine.

(30:11):
So this shows you, like how they're viewing him. They
literally show him as basically like I mean, Iron Man
is based off of Hughes. Likely they say so, yep.
And so it's very interesting when we're looking at all
of these different pieces of the puzzle and the government
turning to him a because he's smart, b because he's

(30:32):
bankrolling them in my opinion. So in true James Bond fashion,
you know, he's helping with the Glomar Explorer through Mayhew
Gay is kind of in the back seat at this time,
and Mayhew's still a little bit forward, but they're they're
all buying for the king. Okay, It's it's not just

(30:53):
one guy, that's for sure. And Mayhew's the one making
all these ties at this point and obviously probably making
you know, howared a lot of money trying to be
able to get rid of some of that taxable income,
which he's hitting up Nixon for, which we're going to
get into. But Nixon and him are kind of buddies,
and so it's a big piece. We're going to go

(31:13):
to Watergate today too, and so you know, they have
him bankrolling different things. This is one of the things
that they do, and this is called Project a Zorion.
Apparently there was a big submarine in the bottom of
the ocean and they have to get it, and this
is kind of an example of what they're doing to
try and pick it up and move it and so

(31:34):
they can examine it and different things. And this isn't
the actual picture because I mean it's underwater at that time,
but this is an example of how it would have worked.
I found it really interesting. They called it Project a Zorion,
so I looked it up because I knew I knew
Azor's Island. And they like to lie and say they

(31:54):
just got it off of a library card of names.
That's how they chose the project. Sure, sure, Sure, it's
right near the Azores Islands, which are very uh sus
for Atlantis. Many people say it is Atlantis. It's a
group of islands belonging to Portugal. Yeah, so people say
that the islands could be the mountaintops of Atlantis. And

(32:16):
and do I think they're going after a submarine? Well,
I think they're going after something. I don't know that
it's per se a submarine, but hey, whatever you want
to say, this is just another picture of that boat.
And so this is, like I said, the recovery ship.
They also have it called Project Manhole. Is going right

(32:38):
along with this about the lifting cradle and what they
need to use to get that up, because they want
to look at this apparently, you know, so badly that
they're willing to do anything right. Well, funny enough, they're
this island that Hughes buys to do. All of this
stuff gets leased out, and it gets leased out to

(33:01):
this company for oil drilling. And this is right around
the Bay of Pigs Time and this is a PoTA
Offshore company of Houston, Texas. And funny enough, guess who
owns that? Yeah he does. And so we've got Bush involved,
We've got Mayhew involved, we've got Howard Hughes bank rolling

(33:22):
talking to Nixon, We've got Gay hiring a bajillion Mormons.
I mean, we're in it up to our eyeballs at
this point. You know, we've got a lot of good stories.
But he also becomes at this point spending his money
still a satellite like person. He's launching satellites up like
Hughes Net, like the company Hughes Net. For anybody they

(33:46):
had this back in the day for satellite internet is
Howard Hughes Hugh's Net satellites and people that dated Howard
said he had a phone that could call from anywhere
on his boat, and it was a satellite phone. This
is clearback. So Howard has been in this for a
long time. And who owns the satellites? Now, oh right,

(34:07):
we're doing the same thing right Elon Musks and his
you know, all of his stuff. He's shooting up there
and Starlink and all this, And it's interesting to me
how much they parallel. Also fun parallel is is Elon's
number one money man, does not have the qualifications to
be that, but he is a Mormon whose name is

(34:28):
Jared Birchall. So that's fun. They met at the boring
company digging holes. That's another fun story. So also during
this time, Hughes Electronics Corporation starts, which you can see,
provider of wireless communications. So this is all you know

(34:49):
underneath Hughes, who also owns General Motors, who also owns
you know, Bowie. At this point, I mean we're talking.
I think Howard Hughes owned breathing for a time. Yeah,
I look.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
At it through a certain lens. It seems that these
billionaires were paving the way for our modern technology, but
they were looking at the same time for artifacts in
certain places, maybe to help them develop certain technologies.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
Are so smart. Oh my gosh. Okay, I almost want
to tell.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
You now you are on it.

Speaker 3 (35:29):
I'm going to say, give it. You literally just hit
the nail on the head toward the end of my presentation,
which is amazing. Nobody's done just FYI. So that's pretty fun.
I do always wonder if this had something to do
with why Hughes was so easily controlled. This plays into
you know, he's younger here and he gets arrested for

(35:51):
killing someone. I often wonder if they gave him a
get out of free card and said, yeah, now, you're
our puppet. He hit somebody drunk and killed him and
somebody saw mm hm. And the guy that or might
have been a lady whoever was going to testify against him, said, oh,
he was drunk and wild and erratic, but then he wasn't. Okay,

(36:17):
So you know, you can see his face here. He
kind of looks like he's lost everything at this point. Yes,
you would be sad if you killed someone, I'm not
saying that, but you have to understand how Howard works.
I think it was more than that. I think they
were reading more than his rights, is what I'm yah. Yeah, yeah,
they're going to control him at this point, and so

(36:39):
I do always throw that in here because I think
it's important for us to understand how much Howard was
under their thumb. And at the same time, he is
trying to basically blackmail Nixon, and we're going to talk
about that, but we also have to explain that during
this time he's become a drug addict. Now people blame

(36:59):
all of this on his drugs. Okay, I'm going to
explain something to people. I'm a nurse by trade twenty
seven years now, and I've worked a lot of my
career the last ten years at least, and before that
in the er in acute care psych stuff. So we
give shots that are not always wanted, okay, And in

(37:21):
all the years I've been a nurse, I've never seen
a hypodermic syringe break off into anyone that I've given
a shot to. Do we learn about it? Yes, do
we know is a possibility? Yes? Do they teach us
how not to have that happen? Yeah, of course they try, right,
But apparently when Howard Hughes died at ninety three pounds,

(37:43):
he had multiple hypodermic needles broken off in his body
that were retained. And if you know anything about this
time in the world, these hypodermic syringes back, then we're
not playing Okay, these are giant, These are thick, big,
huge needles, and so yeah, do I think it was

(38:06):
just drugs? Sure, but let me tell you something about
why a needle would break off. A drug addict wanting
their shot would hold still, and let you do that.
A needle breaks off because you flex your muscle and
it you know, goes around that needle and when it releases,

(38:28):
it breaks right, So do I think he was drugged?
And or made an addict. Yes, I do. In fact,
his doctor was doctor Wilburt h Thing. Doctor Wilburt Thane
from Logan, Utah was a member of the Church of
Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints and served as one
of Hughes's personal doctors during his reclusive years, particularly in

(38:51):
the late sixties and early seventies. He was part of
the so called Mormon Mafia, a group predominantly ldsaids and
executives who managed to personal business affairs. So also with
doctor Thane, we have to know this. He had joined
a social fraternity, Delta Sigma Phi. He was also the
advisor to the fraternity where they started the chapter on

(39:13):
the USU campus, and he worked for many years underneath
the Benevolent and Protective Order of the Elks. He served
as Exalted Ruler of Logan Lodge one four five three.
I'm certain he's probably in the Rotary Club as well.
I gotta find that. And he received his fiftieth year
service pin from the Tahoe Douglas Lodge too six seven zero.

(39:34):
This is huge in Utah for people that don't know
Utah well that Elks are very dialed in and very
on every corner.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
So aren't they offshoot of the Masons.

Speaker 3 (39:48):
Yes, and so are Mormons hah, but they just don't
know it, right, And so yeah, Mormons are It's Masonry
for the whole family, but they don't get to know that.
So I like to call them porch Mormons because they
don't know. So he had worked nights for Howard Hughes'

(40:08):
private office while going to medical school. This led to
him becoming that they're trying to tie this in very nicely.
He got in deep shit after Howard Hughes died, and
they lifted his license for a bit just so people know.
Also so they know again it mentions Logan here. Logan
was huge for the Rotary Club at this time and
for the Mormons. So put that in your back pocket

(40:28):
for when we're going to talk about, you know, what's up,
because it really is a ring. This is definitely a ring.
So Howard is still alive at this point, but like
I said, I think he was heavily controlled. I think
he you know, definitely had some issues because look here,
after Hughes dies, he's indicted by the federal grand jury

(40:50):
for drug law violations. This isn't just me thinking this
this happened, you know. So, yeah, he actually lost his
license for a little bit and then returned to that.
So you know, that's strange. And we know that Howard
Hughes did have a lot of real pain, like actual
and it came from this accident. And this is another

(41:12):
reason why he was so addicted. People don't often cite
this crash, but this crash was when he's still testing
different planes and things for the Three letter agencies and
no one would fly this x F eleven because they
were afraid, because they were like, it's not ready, bro,
and He's like, those rules aren't for me. So he

(41:34):
got in there and he crashed into a lady's house
in the middle of Beverly Hills. No lie, like, yeah,
only Howard Hughes could kind of, yeah, do that and
kind of get away with it. I'm sure he paid
her off hugely, but nevertheless, she was she was in
there where it like hit. Yeah, And so it was
actually really scary, and he was horribly disfigured and had

(41:58):
to go to a burn unit for quite a while.
So I'm not saying he wasn't in pain. And I
do like to give this as a little background because
I think it's unfair when people judge him and say
he's just a druggie I mean you go live with
that kind of pain then, like and yeah, it's it's
we shouldn't judge like that. But yes, he became easily controlled. Wow, absolutely,

(42:19):
absolutely crazy. This is from that article that I showed
you about Hughes or talk to you about the Playboy article.
And it's funny because you see him controlling Nixon. But
what else do you see a green hand? Green hand
controlling how are hues? Wow?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
Interesting, but it's so weird it's gonna get where. If
anyone is listening on the audio side and wants to
see the presentation with the visuals, please go over to
Rumble to check that out.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
Awesome. Yes, you guys should definitely check it out. It's
a better presentation if you can actually watch it. So
why are we seeing Hughes controlling Nixon? Well, he was
just getting older at this point, clearly, and he still
hasn't spent out his money. He's still worried about his
taxes because he's making so much money too. He basically
owns everything now in the world, so and he is

(43:12):
bankrolling the CIA, but he's also controlled. Like, think of
if if you were addicted to drugs and you needed drugs,
are you gonna want Castro to be shutting drugs down?
Probably no, Probably no, my guess no, probably not. So
he's pretty upset about that as well. He's definitely involved in,

(43:34):
like I said, that whole debacle. So Zuppota Oil was drilling,
drilling Howard's Island at this point and the Bay of Pigs.
Whole debacle happens because that was Howard Hughes's Island and
that was their excuse for being there. And then they
went after Castro for the hundredth and something. I mean,
they went after.

Speaker 1 (43:53):
This picture you have up right now?

Speaker 3 (43:54):
What is this from? Again? From a Playboy article?

Speaker 1 (44:00):
Right?

Speaker 3 (44:00):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (44:00):
It's just the green hand puppeteering. Hughes is no, there's
a reason sober.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
Remember how last time we spoke, when we talked about
the sounds of the night, and this is where we'll
try that in. Remember what they said about stop blowing
shit up. I'm just going to leave that up here
for a minute. Remember that. So, Okay, Hughes gets in
this crash, and there have been different people that have
said he was made to crash by something. Not only that,

(44:31):
but they say, and I can't prove this, but they
say he had his own hangar at Area fifty one
and that he was called when that happened. He also
is involved with something called the Integratron. Do you know
about the integratory At this point, I.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Heard very little about it. Please tell us about it?

Speaker 3 (44:48):
Yes, So the Integratron is this magical thing that they're
making trying to contact other beings because this man, oh
I got to look up his name, he's trying to
recreate this because of some dream he had from a
being from Venus. This is literally I'm not Yeah, I mean,

(45:09):
you can't make it up, you know. And so they're
out in the guess where the desert? Right? And so
And also for people that don't know this, Jack Parsons
worked for Howard Hughes for some time. So just so
you can put that in your back pocket too. But
you know, we know that they're messing around with a
lot of things that they probably shouldn't be, you know.

(45:32):
At this point. Yeah, they're probably pissing the aliens off,
is what I'm saying. So George van Tassel is the
creator of this Integratron and Hughes is bankrolling it. He
wants to connect with these beings, but he also wants
to stop all nuclear bombing because we know at this
time Nevada is like being used for this. I mean,
they're bombing the crap out of it. And so he

(45:55):
goes forward and hires another person and that man that
I said age of Secrets. His last name is Meyer,
m I e Er. And I give that because there's
two Johnnies that work for him, so and they're both
Meyer and the other ones spelled different. So that's why. Anyways,
he gets him to actually be on the board of

(46:15):
that and start running testing to prove that this is dangerous, right, Oh,
you've got to stop because of the danger, not just
because you know the aliens, but because of the danger.
And so he is literally got Nixon up in arms
about this because he's he's going to have something over Nixon.

(46:35):
And he's like, you will stop the bombing because I
will frame your brother if not, because this brother of
Nixon's okay, he don Nixon borrow borrows a non paybackable
loan that's a bribe, okay, from Howard Hughes of over
five hundred thousand dollars. Okay. So he's like, you are

(47:00):
going to do two things for me. You are going
to stop the bombing to Nixon, and you are going
to make sure that all of my companies are going
to be approved under Howard Hughes Medical and it's going
to be my shell company, which we've seen the Mormon
Church do time and time again. But make the shell
company for me to make the taxes go away, so

(47:22):
that it's basically similar to a five ole one C three.
And it had already been approached to the Irs twice
for this and denied. They said, no way, No, you
own like too many weirdo things like satellites and planes,
and no, that doesn't qualify as medical stuff. And Nixon
pushed it through YEP, because of this loan with his brother.

(47:46):
And there is proof of this through this man Meyer
that wrote this book Age of Secrets, and he is
still alive. There's pictures. I mean, it's that book is
so good I can't even explain. So it's very very revealing,
we'll say that. And Hughes is telling them you don't

(48:06):
understand what you're doing when you're bombing things, like he's terrified,
and I think this plays into his mental state like
we were talking about before, like is this just paranoia?
Is this something else? You know? Is he afraid of
something green? Is where I'm going with that? And he

(48:27):
gets so strange that you know, if anybody's seen The Aviator,
this is a little scene from the Aviator. And this
comes from a journal of the people that were his
nurses all right, yes they were Mormon two And that
he wouldn't cut his hair or nails, and that he
wouldn't walk on the floor without these kleenexboxes on his feet. Well,

(48:50):
sounds ridiculous until I did a show about a month
and a half ago called The Golden Bough. Have you
heard of the Golden Bow before this ocultic book? Well,
it's such a huge So The Golden Bow talks a
lot about different esoteric stuff for different people, and it's old, okay,
And we're doing this chapter on it and they're talking

(49:13):
about the king and how is to be the king
and how the king it's kind of like a burden,
but how the king can't cut his hair or his
nails unless his nurses take the hair or nails from
them in his sleep, Well, Howard didn't sleep at all hardly, ever,

(49:35):
so his hair starts getting weird. Also another piece to
that puzzle is he couldn't touch the floor with his
bare feet ever. Now, I found that fascinating. Fascinating because
the esoteric side of Mormonism is highly underrated. But I
will tell you this. Number one, they know stuff. Number two,

(49:58):
they don't hide it. It back in this time Okay,
they do now. But there's like a chart that they
sell and well used to sell during this timeframe that
says the whole lineage clear back to Adam and Eve. Okay,
made by last name Bennett. Bennett's going to be very
important about one second, says it's not a relation of

(50:20):
this next Bennett, I'm going to speak to you about,
but I'm sure it is. We're talking polygamy in Utah.
A little hard to chase down, okay, But this guy
makes this whole thing and it goes into the building
of the genealogy websites to this day. That chart is
used and that is called one Divine Line, the Royal line,

(50:43):
and on it there's a big six pointed star and
it says from this line king shell rule. And I'm
not kidding, how did they get this stuff? To even
make this genealogy website well interesting, right. We know one thing.
We know that Mayhew has connections to all different kinds

(51:06):
of people during this time, and one of those connections
is IBM, and IBM makes a deal and this is
declassified CIA docs. I need to add it in here
that they would give the Mormons the punch cards from
the Holocaust so that they could put them into their

(51:27):
genealogical system. I'm kidding, really and so yeah, and so
guess who's on the board of the whole thing at
this time when this is decided because IBM has to
agree despite the fact that CIA has these documents now
but technically they were ibms. We know that now. But

(51:47):
one of the people on the board that gets to
vote for this is Bill Gates' mom. Makes sense, Yeah,
so there's that. It does because to this day, just
so people know, the number one shareholding and your stock
portfolio is very important when you look at them. These

(52:08):
people know each other, They interact with each other. Like
if you have a number one stockholding and you're a
big business and you're really rich, you know that that person. Okay,
that's stockholding, and the number one stockholding to this day
for the Mormon Church is Bill Gates, and Bill Gates
is the number one farm land owner in America. Only

(52:30):
second is the Mormon Church. Do I think they work together?
You tell me, right, So, yes, sus Yes. And during
this time, Mayhew is losing his position at SUMA, and
Gay is highly rising. Okay, he is becoming the top

(52:51):
dog basically, and you know, he's surrounded by all the
three letter people and now we're talking about a different
kind of company. And Mayhew actually fights back because he
never saw Hughes to be fired. So he actually sued
and won because he said, I don't know if that
came from him or not. Well you'd never seen Hughes,
so I mean that's kind of you know whatever, But

(53:14):
he won. So kind of interesting there. But may is
stepping up or Gay may Gay is stepping up and
taking full control over everything. And at this time he
makes another company, and computers are becoming kind of on
the scene for different things, and he makes a company
and a quote from Howard Hughes, this is a quote

(53:34):
from him. He just opened up that branch under my
name to do all his Mormon genealogy. That's why I
bring up the IBM situation. So you know, Gay's making
moves behind the scene, He's pressing Nixon and seeing aliens.
He is in Howard Hughes. I don't I can't prove

(53:55):
the aliens thing, but many people have said he was
afraid and stated at that. And now we get into
even more people that are involved in this whole situation
and involved in Watergate as well as branching off into JFK,
which is wild. This guy right here is Bob Bennett.
And Bob Bennett is a senator from Utah. He's the

(54:15):
grandson of Hebrew J. Grant. Well, Heber J. Grant is
the reason why the Federal Reserve ever came to Utah.
Just for people that don't know, Yeah, his godfather was
the one that actually made that happen. And so it's
very interesting when you start looking at all of these

(54:37):
people and all their connections clear back in the day,
and they don't just go away. I mean there's no
way they don't. And so Bennett is involved in way
more than that. And Bennett is involved. He was a
chaplain in the Army National Guard. They say he was
through letter agency at that point. Now there's back and

(54:57):
forth about that, but like it's amongst his client, it
was Howard Hughes. Later at this company he purchased and
it's called the Robert Mullen Company, and people that know
about JFK will know this name. And he was, you know,
a Central Intelligence Agency front organization. When E. Howard Hunt
retired from the CIA, he actually went to work for

(55:18):
this company, the Mullen Company. And so this is for
this Mormon Bob Bennett, and the other clients that Bob
has are the Mormon Church, Howard Hughes, the Mormon Tabernacle Choir,
the Osmond's. That one's a fun one, yeah, And it's
just a front company. And so it's it's weird. It

(55:43):
replaces Neapolitan and associates as Howard Hughes's rep in Washington.
The Mullen Company does Hunt. E Howard Hunt worked for them,
like I said, And the company president, Robert Bennett, was
asked by Nixon's staff to find evidence on misdeeds of
O'Brien and that might have been committed during his time
with Howard Hughes, because he also worked for Howard Hughes

(56:05):
at Suma Corporation and he will return there as well.
So this was all sponsored you know, by President Nixon
as far as the Special Investigations Unit, and Bennett actually
was in charge of Nixon's money for his for the
presidency before he got it. So it is such a

(56:29):
dirty web. And all of this has been proved by
the Pentagon papers. Like this is all declassified CIA docs.
This can be looked up so people can look at it.
And these are different clips, you know, from the actual
newspaper and from this is CIA doc gov. So you
can see it says the public relations firm of Robert

(56:50):
Mullen and Company, where Watergates by E. Howard Hunt went
to work in the nineteen seventies after his retirement, had
been providing cover for a number of years for agency
employees overseas. So this is way more than just Watergate.
This is very interesting. So as you can see at
the bottom it says CIA DOTV. These are all declassified.

(57:14):
This is a picture and I put this in here
of the original little ad for this company. But if
you notice it says Robert Foster Bennett Wallace F. Bennett. Okay,
remember who I told you developed the whole genealogy stuff
is a Bennett. But the last name has Arrow Contractors

(57:35):
on it. Okay, so that's really important. We're going to
talk about it. So just know that they're involved in
aerospace basically. Yeah, And so you also have to know
this is one of the people that they're with, Ben Rich,
and he is a Mormon. Ben Rich is a Mormon,

(57:55):
and he was the pioneer in stealth technology and skunk works,
were we know that rfk's probable killer worked. So Eugene
Faine Caesar and that that gets really interesting because he
also worked for the Mormon Church. Eugene Thane Caesar did.

(58:16):
And that man right there, Ben Rich, he went to
the Philippines on his mission. And where did where did
Thane go when he when everything hit the fan, he
went to the Philippines. I'm just saying a lot of connections,
a lot of connects. It gets weird. So at this point,

(58:37):
you know, the king is no longer necessarily needed. I
don't know if he became a huge pain in the
ass or what. I don't know what happened there, but
I do know this, all of a sudden over Thanksgiving
he was basically kidnapped. And the man that basically kidnapped
him is this man right here, and this is James O. Golden.

(58:57):
He is impossible to find him for me. If anybody does, like,
definitely send him my way. I found a little bit
on him, but I would love to find out more.
I will tell you for this. He's Secret Service special
Agent James O. Golden. He served on the security detail
vice President Richard Nixon. Makes sense. He also was that
was during a trip to the Soviet Union in nineteen

(59:19):
fifty nine and with John T. Sherwood, did radiation aimed
at Nixon's living quarters there. Yes, he was the one
that was fingered as taking Howard Hughes from his hotel
in the middle of the night on Thanksgiving and he

(59:40):
disappears period, and no one ever sees him again ever.
And so we also have to know about James O. Golden.
He worked for let's see Resorts International, and we're going
to get into that one because that one's really really
interesting as well. And yeah, he also was associated with

(01:00:01):
Cohne and Riboso, so who Riboso is an intimate friend
of Nixon's. So this all is very I'm assuming what
happened is either Hughes push Nixon too hard and it
pissed Nixon off, or I don't know what you know
there's definitely weird stuff in the Gymstone file about onasis,

(01:00:23):
and it could have been that as well, but a
lot of people throw that out and say it's guard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
There's strange exotic tech aliens, these three letter agencies infiltrating
all of these businesses. It's absolutely insane. And this seemed
like a very important period for this infiltration to take place,
with everything that was happening.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
And James O. Golden is a Mormon. I forgot to
mention that, but I just you know, I assume everybody
knows by now that most of them are and why
And people laugh at me and they say, well, why
do you why do you focus on the Mormons or
whatever so much? And I'm like, because it never went away.
You have to understand. This stuff that I'm talking about
right now goes into permandex This stuff goes into r F, caving, killed,

(01:01:09):
it's everything. And actually I had kind of an existential
crisis when I was studying all this stuff. And my
husband was like, you're good, like you you see him
off and I was like freaking out and I said no,
I'm not really good, and he goes, well, who did it?
And I said, oh, the answer is yes. And he
said what And I said all of them. It's all

(01:01:32):
of them. And actually seeing that and understanding that is
is a really weird situation. And again, you know, back
to the aliens. Don't forget Mayhew was involved with the
alien stuff and one of his best friends was Guy Banister,
And you know, we're getting into things where they work

(01:01:53):
together in the Chicago office and these different siops and different.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
Becoming more and more convinced that this parasitic group has
the strongest attempts, at least to theatrically steer society. And
they've been doing it for a long time. And it
seems to be such an intricate web of intelligence and

(01:02:18):
law enforcement and corporate interests all working together. But the
lower levels have no idea what the higher levels are doing.
And it seems to perpetuate everything that is making up
this new control system that we're being subjected to, especially
as it relates to technology and exotic technology.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
Absolutely one and ten percent. You know, the thing is
is it never went away. The money's just exchanged. Like
one of the reasons why Brigham Young was ran out
of town wasn't just polygamy. Look, he was actually counterfeiting
money back then then he teams up with who all
the people with the railroad. You know, these people are

(01:03:09):
huge and they just went underground. They just go underground
because they're tired of getting killed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
They rebrand themselves.

Speaker 3 (01:03:19):
Or give it to some son of a son of
a son. I mean, you know, it's everywhere. And when
we're talking about these people like Bennett. You know, even
after the whole thing with Watergate blows up in Bennett's face,
he goes out of the whole situation basically unscathed. This
is actually in the Baker's report, Like I said, page
number seven, Hunt is all mentioned all over this and

(01:03:42):
what happens to Bennett not much. And guess what he
leaves and goes back to work for Howard Hughes. And
so you know, they're protected. They're absolutely protected. I want
to bring that up because even to this day, people
will say, why are you talking about Bob Bennett's nice
guy ever? And I'm like, because, i mean, come on,

(01:04:05):
you know, like why you didn't find any issue with
the Watergate situation and his relation Like he was actually
being fingered as the whistleblower on Watergate there for a
little while. He was that in. I mean, we have
to look at these people and understand that there's more

(01:04:25):
going on than your nice grandpa. I mean, Bob Bennett
was a part of Skull and Bones at the University
of Use.

Speaker 1 (01:04:30):
It seems like you have your disposable assets that at
any point can be taken out and it wouldn't matter
or it would help the agenda. And then you have
the long term institutions of these assets that we see
that are still alive today, still pulling strings and still
very powerful. And this seems to be the case where

(01:04:55):
we have certain people who seem to be very powerful
at some point, but then they're taken out because it's
part of the eventual plan or they got too big
for their bridges. But they are ultimately just disposable.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Absolutely, And these are not like what this is not
like a person. This is like committees or groups or whatever,
like like you said, I mean, this guy is the
prime example. He's this special agent blah blah blah blah,
and he does all this stuff that he's supposed to
for whoever that wants. You know, Hughes Gone takes him
to the Xanadu and that is owned by Resorts International, well,

(01:05:35):
Resorts International is a trailblazer and gambling industry. Okay, it
was formerly the Mary Carter Paint Company, which didn't exist.
Why because it's a CIA front company just like the
Moling Company. They're exactly the same. And so when we're
looking at that, we're like, okay, wait, what what Why

(01:05:55):
are all these companies here that aren't exactly real? Right? Well,
Mary Harder Paint Company was also involved in the attempts
to kill Castro and why because they're a gambling place, right,
so they don't want the gambling shutdown that that would
totally affect them, So all of this stuff. You know,

(01:06:16):
James o'golden at this point is the VP of this place,
but after he leaves he goes on to found Innertel,
So we're not talking about just in America anymore. So
that's kind of really concerning knowing what we know that

(01:06:38):
this goes clear into other countries, and that permandex is
probably the early example of that. Because we have a
board of people that don't make any sense. We've got
mobsters with presidents with CIA agents that doesn't make any sense.
So you know, when we talk about that always also,
don't forget it goes back to the Nazis. It just does.

(01:07:00):
People can say Hitler was good or whatever they want
to say, but look, the whole thing is a racket,
and that's what it was. And so we've got, you know,
the Nazis, and then we've got the Italian mobsters, and
we've got the Mormon mobsters, and then we've got you know,
these other countries involved that have real Seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:07:18):
They all play in a bigger picture of what's unfolding.

Speaker 3 (01:07:24):
Well, guess who else goes on to own this this company, uh,
with the hotels, the resorts international.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
Our president, don't worry he's the Orange Man's.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Don't worry about it. Yeah, don't forget this either. You
know his his uncle, uncle John Trump. Do you know
about Uncle John Trump? So Uncle John is very important
with the secrets of the aliens and stuff we're talking
for those that don't know, you know, he's directly under Tesla.
He's kind of his apprentice, we could say it that way.

(01:08:03):
And so we know that the first person also into
the building after Tesla dies because he was underneath him
as an apprentice, is Trump's uncle. And so I think
that's why Marri Largo was tossed and they were looking
for something. And he likes to flex it every once
in a while and say, my uncle Trump blah blah
blah blah blah blah, like Uncle Johnny blah blah. Well,

(01:08:26):
Trump goes on to make these hotels, this hotel chain,
and he's over Resorts International, and what does he name
this hotel? First of all, we're talking about the Trump's
World's Fair Trump Plaza. That's interesting number one because supposedly
we're in that right now. But it's sucky. I don't know.
I haven't seen crap about it. It's apparently started in

(01:08:46):
May that we're in Trump's World's Fair time. It's supposed
to go the whole year. I haven't seen anything about
it other than a statement from him, but like, they
haven't started it that I'm aware of it. It has
like a full calendar and everything. So yeah, he's supposedly
going to do that and do it like debase.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
A fleeting moment.

Speaker 3 (01:09:10):
Yeah, it's interesting, but we know that he goes on
also to own a hotel name the Atlantis Hotel, and
we've already been there with the A's or Islands just
a minute ago. Is that a flex is he flexing
right there and saying what he.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
Knows, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
For sure on that one. Oh my gosh. So he
becomes like I said, this this president of this company.
And this is during the time where we know he's
besties with Cone. And for anybody that has not researched
Roy Cone, oh, I will do a show on him.
Probably it will have to be a five part series
one day. But Cone has there's a documentary out called

(01:09:54):
Where's My Roy Cone? Have you seen this? Fantastic? Worth
the three dollars on it Amazon fantastic. It will tell
you all the things you never wanted to know about
our president. They look more than friends here. Have you
ever had a friend so close you were this close.
I'm just curious because he's talking to his nose, not
his ear, pretty close, so I don't know what's happening.

(01:10:15):
There's another really interesting picture of them dressed up for Halloween.
That's it's Trump dressed up as have you seen it? Think? So? Oh,
go to google it. I'm going to put it back
in this presentation because I forgot. But he's dressed up
like a like a Trojan soldier, Roman soldier, and it's

(01:10:36):
he's very got a lot of makeup on, We'll say that,
and they're a Studio fifty four together, and and Roy
ConA is dressed up as the most vibrant homosexual that
there is and he he was just so people know,
I'm not making a joke, that's really and so yeah,

(01:10:58):
John Trump, just some people know, is also involved in
this high voltage Engineering corporation with Robert van Deigraf and
Dennis Robinson. And when we are looking at this machine
in the background, which is why I added it, what
does that look like to you today?

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Kind of looks like the certain collider?

Speaker 3 (01:11:19):
You bet it does? You bet it does? Do? I
think they've figured some things out. Oh yeah, I think
there's a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
I think the technology that we are allowed to know
about right now has been around for a very long time.
Some speculate maybe even up to fifty or more years
ahead of what we're allowed to know about.

Speaker 3 (01:11:40):
Well, and why do they have all these weird books about,
you know, Trump's son being a time traveler. And Howard
Hughes actually has some books that people say in Spain
Howard Hughes lived in a different time and that he
went back there. And if you do too many jumps
like they say, not like, I know, I don't travel,
but they say right like that it will aid you.

(01:12:01):
And he did age really rapidly and it will kind
of make you lose your mind. And so, you know,
it's kind of interesting when we look at it in
a different form. Did he figure it out through his
green friends? And was this what they were really after? They?
You know, it's so and Nixon is best buddies with Trump.

(01:12:24):
This is them at a regular wedding like this isn't
like a presidential thingy. This is like their buddies. You know.
Trump and Nixon told Trump to go and be the
president period, that his psychic told him to go and
run and that he would win.

Speaker 1 (01:12:38):
Just I'm pretty sure that exotic tich, whether we built
it ourselves or got it from aliens or was channeled
from spirits, this is the missing link to what people
should understand about what is happening. We had access somehow
to technology or information on how to build technology that

(01:13:00):
we should not have had during that time. And this
is the driving factor behind the parasitic ruling classes. They
had access to something a very long time ago, and
it's just grown since then.

Speaker 3 (01:13:15):
Right one hundred percent and who actually you know, funded
the railroad. When we're talking about these people and how
far back this goes, and then add them in with
the Mormons, because the Mormons are part of that. And
for people that don't know, you know, Brigham Young gave
free labor to finish that railroad and did not pay

(01:13:36):
any of the workers. They were just Mormons, and it
was it was like upwards of a million something dollars
of labor costs. He said they would and then they didn't.
And so these people became controlling factors because then Brigham
Young goes on to be what the governor, well, you
can't really take recourse against the governor. And then we

(01:13:57):
get to the Federal Reserve with Godby and that coming
to the Mormons and then Bennett and all these people,
and people want to tell me, oh, you're reading into it. Okay, sure,
when Permandex is funded by Haliburton and these different companies
that still, yeah, are around, so we you know, and
not just Halbert I mean, there's so many of them.

(01:14:19):
But it's the crossovers are just fantastic, you know. And
same with the wars. The wars are a big part
of this. This is their war machine. This is what
makes the money. So for those you know that don't know,
after this, Howard Hughes did meet his demise. So they
say he wanted to be cryo frozen and he had

(01:14:42):
it bought in everything, and they didn't do it. They
I don't know. They immediately buried him like instantly, which
makes me think, wow, he died a different way than
maybe what they say. Yeah. But interestingly enough, I said,
this does go on to today. I did show one
example of aerospace that but there are many and it

(01:15:02):
goes into RFK a little heavier. But one of them
is Baine and Company. So for those that don't know,
you know, this is Mitt Romney and when he was young,
and Mitt Romney teams up with this man. And this
man's name is Robert Gay. Well where we heard that
name before, that's his son. So Robert Gay is, you know,

(01:15:29):
making money. He becomes actually so high up. He becomes
one of the Quorum of the seventy. So there's the
quorm of the twelve, after the prophet and his first
and second counselor than the Quorum of the twelve, then
the Korum of the seventy. And he was in that
and once you're in there, usually you're in there for
good and you get some kind of a stipend council
or something. Okay, uh huh, yep, a hundred percent. Yep,

(01:15:51):
you're so good at this. I'm like, oh, wait until
you hear how good you were in just a second.
It's like the clincher. And so this guy, you know,
he's making these micro loans and helps pretty much crash
everything with Romney back in the early two thousands and
was making loans to people that they couldn't pay and
they knew it, and so it was really looked down upon,

(01:16:15):
even though it was white collar crime. And I mean
they should have been like, yeah, good job. But the
problem was he kind of got caught, and so it
was not a good look for the church. And yeah,
so he kind of got I'll say, I guess let go. Yeah,
basically of the quorum of the seventy, which doesn't ever

(01:16:36):
hardly happen. I mean, that's like super rare. But this
legacy does go on and they form a company together
with Gay and they put it together with let me
find It, the other big company here in Utah, and
it lives on to this day. And it actually his son.

(01:16:56):
This guy's son goes on to be way more secret,
way more quiet, and he has a lot of money.
And basically his wife has been said to say, my
family is I quote Mormon royalty, and so I mean
they don't mean royalty like the king, although there are

(01:17:19):
different weird things about that here, but they mean as
far as money. And she's pretty famous herself. And so
just remember Romney and Gay because I'll find that and
tell you guys what company that is is Huntsman Gay,
Huntsman Gay, Huntsman Gay. So if anybody's from Utah, you
know who Huntsman's are. They're huge and they merged and

(01:17:41):
so this is the son. So this guy's son here,
this guy's son right, oh there, it is right here.
He marries this lady and she's pretty famous in her
own right. This is Heather Gay of the Real Housewives
of Solid City, moving into you know, famous TV stuff, right,

(01:18:04):
Not like they haven't done that before. Yeah, so she
is interesting. They're they're divorced now, but she's more interesting
than this stupid little TV show. Okay, guys. She has
this dad and his name means and this is a
little bit from his obituary. John Lloyd Dean seventy five,

(01:18:27):
recently diagnosed with cancer. Okay, we're gonna skip down that part.
But he was let's see, he went to Helsinki, Finland,
and following that, after being part of Sigma Kai very important,
John got married and then he hope that's out of order,

(01:18:47):
and then he went to Quantico. This is part of
the obituary right here, because he was an FBI agent.
He was over first the bank robbery desk. Then guess
what he did. He started specializing in counterintelligence because he
learned Russian. We've heard that story before. And he flew

(01:19:09):
in helicopters hunting thieves of historical indigenous artifacts there. It
is good job, so good job. He won the State
Archaeological Archaeological Award as Special Agent in charge with the
Bureau of Land Management. So yeah, he's basically like Indiana.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
These similarities with Elon Musk and his family. They are
huge into finding these strange biblical and ancient artifacts as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:49):
Not to mention, while all of this is going on,
we've got these big companies merging, like I mentioned, and
that is right here. I knew I had that side.
The It is HGGC, which is is huge to this day,
just so people know, we gotta, we got to come
into this day. So they own a lot, let alone.

(01:20:11):
We know the Mormon Church and if anybody wants to
look up the enzyme Peak scandal, it got dismissed. But
they were guilty, guilty, and then and it's it's so
much money. I mean, what they even got them for
it is is nothing. And that's it was. They were

(01:20:31):
being Howard Hughes and taking their money and putting it
in offshore accounts instead of using it for five oh
one C three status stuff that they were given. And
it was a big deal. They had a whistleblower and
it just got dropped, just got dropped. Mason Hanschack anyway, Yeah,
so this is going on and all during this time,

(01:20:54):
we know on the other side of things, where the
speculation goes for the Illuminati instead of the Free Masonry brothers,
you know, is Onassas and there's a lot going on
with that one. It would take two shows. I'm in
the middle of it, and I bit off more than
I could chew because I didn't realize. But it goes
more into this whole Kennedy situation. But speaking of knowing

(01:21:15):
things and artifacts. I want people to know. Onasas had
some very interesting things on his boat that he lived
out of full time. He lived there and it was
just beautiful. It's called the Christina and this boat had
a Lapis lazuli fireplace. Yeah, weird. And also he became

(01:21:37):
into whaling, which is really weird. And he made all
the barstools at his bar out of penis skin from whales.
And I'm not kidding.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Wow, that's not weird.

Speaker 3 (01:21:48):
He Yeah, there's more going on that meets the eye
there for sure, especially with the Lapis lazuli and atlantis ties.
That's really interesting, that is. And so yeah, and you
know he's best friends with uh oh, what's his name
from England. He's a big deal. Why can I remember
that Churchill, he's his best friend. Onasas was like best

(01:22:12):
friends with him. But also everybody that worked for Howard Hughes.
When Howard dies, most of the closest like people went
to go work for Onasas. Oh, yeah, you know. Onnasas
is mentioned in the book with Fritz Springmeier. And I
know there's a lot about that book and I try

(01:22:33):
not to use it, but it's still interesting. He was
named a King in the Mariah Illuminati in that book.
Just so people know, I can show you a really
cool That's pretty much the end of this presentation, but
I do want to show people one little controversial thing
that is pretty fun. When we look at why things happen. Okay,

(01:22:54):
and we look at all of this stuff, and where
did the money go? And what about now? And why
is this guy more important than this guy? Blah blah blah. Right,
we've got to look at that into this day, and
like you said, most of it's like to their kids
or underground or or whatever. Okay, So I want to
ask you, does this guy look like JFK.

Speaker 1 (01:23:13):
Junior somewhat somewhat?

Speaker 3 (01:23:16):
Yeah, So let's break it. Let's break it down a
little bit. Here's this little little triangle above the lip,
and this is identical to me. This top lip is
pretty similar, This is thinner. Bottom lip is pretty close.
But this hairline here and it's like do do do?
Then comes down and over and I find it really interesting.

(01:23:37):
But the nose is a kicker the where it starts
how it comes down. Now his is much nicer and straighter,
but we don't know if he's had plastic surgery or
what you know. At this point he's a little bit older.
I think they look a lot alike. And this is
Onassis when he was young. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
These pictures of people from earlier generations that are of
extreme power connected somehow with the parasitic ruling class that
seem to have doppelgangers that show up much later in reality.

Speaker 3 (01:24:16):
Very weird, isn't it? And it makes you wonder. You know,
there's pictures of his real son who died in a
plane crash, Alexander Onassis, and Alexander Onassis died in a
plane crash. Like I said, but I have seen pictures
where people say, oh, that's JFK Junior, and I'm like,
it isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:24:36):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
So the one thing we do know is three weeks
before JFK was killed, Jackie takes off and goes on
Onassis's yacht, the shot I'm telling you about, okay with
her sister and sorry, I got my little and so
she goes with her, and you know, he calls and says,

(01:24:59):
you better get off that b so even if you
have to swim. Jfkata's and Jackie's pissed off at him
because they had another baby pass away that was when
baby Patrick died and during the first time JFK's baby died,
their first daughter died as well. What dead babies over there?
Very strange. And Jackie's very strange in herself. I have

(01:25:21):
to tell you she you know, do you know who
her writing coach was when she was eight years old?
Let's see if I have a picture of him. Oh,
that's not it. George DeMar Schild was her writing coach.
And not only was George de morn Shield her writing coach,
but she was so close to him she called him
uncle George. And her father, Black Jack Bouvier, member of

(01:25:46):
the Society of the Cincinnati right here, had a lot
of interesting ties, we'll say it that way, many many
interesting ties. So when we're talking about all of these people,
we know one thing for sure, and I wanted to
tie this back to the Nine because we spoke about it.

(01:26:06):
We know that George de Mornin Shild had I'm gonna
push stop share because I'll just talk now. We know
that George demarn Shild is very involved in this whole
Lee Harvey Oswald business. Okay. We know that Belle Helicopter
is involved with all of that The nine as well,
like we spoke about last time, and we know the

(01:26:29):
Nazis are pretty much running Belle Helicopter at that point.
And I don't know if people I think we talked
about that last time and about who his boss was.
And we also know that the girlfriend of the Doulas
brothers is best friends with Ruth Payne Forbes, not Ruth

(01:26:51):
Payne of Lee Harvey Oswald, who is the son of
Ruth Payne Forbes's wife, both of them. Okay. We also
know that Ruth Payne the younger Will Color the younger
got the job for Lee Harvey Oswald there at the
Texas Book Depository and who owned that. It's not Admiral Berg,

(01:27:14):
but it's uh, it's one of it's a bird. And
so when we're talking about all of this web we weave, okay,
and the legacy it lives behind, we have to look
at how this plays into today's economics. Number one, we've
mentioned the Gates. Number two, we've mentioned the Huntsman's, We've
mentioned the Gays. These all continue. The Romney's is a twisted,

(01:27:39):
twisted web, and I'd be happy to come back and
talk about that sometime, but they get into I mean,
you want to talk about crazy Mormons. They're killing each
other over there on that one. They're killing kids, they're
killing they're just opening fire on each other. And I
mean it was wild. You know that van full of
kids and moms that got shot out by the Mexican

(01:28:02):
cartel not too long ago. Do you remember this? That
is them? That is Romney's family. Wow. And so yeah,
they try to hide a lot of this stuff, but
so much of it goes back to you know, a
lot of these secret societies, a lot of the weird
cover ups of alien stuff, like people can believe it

(01:28:24):
or not. I don't know what to do with that,
but it is what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:28:29):
Vanity. Now, the last few minutes we have before we
got started today, you were telling me some interesting information
that may connect with Charlie Kirk and the assassination. Tell
us a little bit about the information you found.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Yes, so one of the videos that Charlie Kirk had
out there, and I hadn't really dove into it because
I do feel like it's it's We both talked about
how offy stated this is and how much AI type stuff,
and I mean, who even knows anymore? People are saying
it's a hologram, you know, And I don't know. I

(01:29:04):
don't know where the truth lies, but I do know
this obviously, there are videos that normal people took. Whether
he's a hologram or not, whatever you guys want to
believe it. But he says, right before he passed away,
I love how Mormon send missionaries around the world. I
love how polite they are. Half my team is Mormon.
And then they just gave that part of the quote

(01:29:28):
and then they stop it right there. But then somebody
asked him, so do you believe the Book of Mormon
is true? And he said, there's no archaeological evidence of
the Book of Mormon being true, and he gets shot
right after that. I find that fascinating. I also find
it weird. You know, we've had recent Mormon chaos. If
you've noticed the church that somebody ran into and started

(01:29:52):
opening fire, that just happened a couple days ago. And
then we also had the profit of the church. Russell M.
Nelson the Skull and Bones University of Utah one hundred
and one years old. People will say he wasn't in
Skull and Bones. Look, he was an l and Key
and Alan Key is the Senior Society of scholl And Bones.
So at the University of Utah, they're the ones that

(01:30:13):
do the tapping for the next people. So yes, yes
he was, and that is documented well and all declassified.
So what day did he die on? He died on
nine twenty seven, twenty twenty five. Now what does that
add out to. I don't do this a lot, but
this one was weird. It adds out to nine nine
to nine, and we know that everything in the demonic

(01:30:36):
world gets inverted, So what is nine nine? It's six
sixty six. And what day did his wife die? His
first wife? She died on three two two. And I
shit you not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:48):
I don't know where to go the synchronicities, occult symbolism,
predictive programming, like the snake eyes thing. I really don't
know where to go with all that. Some believe it's
all orchestrated, all placed there intentionally. I'm not so sure.
There seems to be something larger at play, something spiritual

(01:31:09):
or energetic, that may add to the strangeness that shows
up with this symbolism.

Speaker 3 (01:31:15):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:16):
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (01:31:19):
I am on both sides of that fence one hundred percent.
I think that yes, there is something out there that
influences things. Whether that be a good force or a
bad force. It depends on what is happening and what
they're summoning and what they're doing. Because at the end
of it all, I will tell you guys, obviously it works,
like black magic or magic in general would have died

(01:31:42):
off if it didn't work. So long ago. Let's be real,
you know, and what do we know about the Nazis
and the real and all this weird stuff that they're practicing,
and Rosicrucianism comes into RFK and we've got this seance
for this one and all this different stuff. And we've
got these Mormons that say they're not esoteric, but they are.

(01:32:04):
They are. The porch Mormons aren't. No, No, the porch
Mormons are definitely not. But that's just the regular people.
These other people high up they know what creates the ether,
you know, to open up and get the answers that
they need. Just like what you said, like about is
it it quote unquote aliens, I don't think it is.

(01:32:26):
I do think it's something higher and more advanced than us, Yes,
one hundred percent do do. I think some of it
is used one hundred percent. Do I think that this
old money from you know, the Wrothschilds who influenced you know,
the barons of the Federal Reserve, Rockefellers and Standard Oil

(01:32:46):
and Harriman who end up doing the money to Utah
for the railroads, still influenced to this date. You better
believe it. Like, yeah, the Rockefellers are a cover for
a lot of things. But one of those things is Harreman,
Koon and Lobe and that is no joke and that
is no cover. Like people need to look into that.
So when we're looking at laundering money and all this

(01:33:08):
different stuff, we've got those people over there who are
probably the Luciferians, and we've got the other people over
here who are we'll call them the esoterrasans. I don't know.
You know, we've got the esoterics and the money people,
because that's what it is. And yes, I think they
can affect things. I think they can summon things. I
think there are things out there. People always say to me,
don't you think it would be easier to just say

(01:33:31):
Joseph Smith lied? Sure? Do I think that's what happened? No,
Because I believe in other things. I do. And I
don't think it was an angel. No, don't. I don't
think that at all, you know. But the one thing
I will tell people about this particular prophet dying on
quote six sixty six, I do find it interesting. And
this credit goes out to LDS abuse. He found his

(01:33:55):
number for his particular fraternity when he was in and
I kid you not, it was six sixty six.

Speaker 1 (01:34:02):
So crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:34:04):
There's too many ties. There's too many ties on that one.
So you know, Sorry, this is great, strange stuff. No,
I keep moving on my chair, All good, All good,
I do too.

Speaker 1 (01:34:15):
I do that too all the time. But Heidi, thank
you so much. This is fantastic information and we'll definitely
have to explore more. You do some great research. Before
I let you go, remind the audience how they can
find out all about you.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Awesome. Well, I'm always happy to come on, love to
come on and share a couple other stories with you.
How this infiltrates RFK and many other facets of the
Mormon mafia. You can find me over at Unfiltered Rise Podcasts.
I'm everywhere podcasts are served. I do have a Patreon.
I did forget to mention that with Deplorable Nation. We
oftentimes go on and do medical stuff because that's kind

(01:34:55):
of like my extras. I do two extra shows a
month for people to join my patreons five bucks month,
so pretty simple. There you get to find out some
pretty weird medical things, as in the last one we
did was all about the beginnings of plastic surgery and
how they started making faces of people after the war
blew their faces off, like really graphic. So if you

(01:35:18):
don't love stuff like that, probably it's not freezing. Definitely
never going on YouTube. Can't put that right on.

Speaker 1 (01:35:24):
I love it. I love that you're doing all this, Heidi,
thank you so much. We will revisit everything again in
the future, and until next time, everyone, have a wonderful evening.

Speaker 3 (01:35:34):
Dogging in tomorrow.

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