Navigating Spiritual Psychosis, Crumbling Narratives, From Aliens to the Rapture | Stijn - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
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(01:10):
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I want to welcome Stain. He is a researcher of
the occult and seeker of divine knowledge. He is the
yarl of the tribe Breyhorn Pagans and host of the
Greyhorn Pagans podcast. Stain Welcome.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
How you doing, Thank you? Thanks for having me. Yeah,
I'm good. It's been a long day, but I I'm
always excited to come on a show and talk about
things that I find interesting and that I hope everyone
else will too.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Definitely man looking forward to getting into this. You wanted
to discuss the state of spiritual and social care infusion
in our realm, some of the events that are adding
fuel to the rise of what seems to be psychosis
among those programmed by the psychological manipulation. Because of the

(02:13):
extreme anti human nature of some of these agendas, myself
and many others look at the possibility that maybe there's
a non human hidden hand pulling strings in our reality.
This is a big topic before we get into any
of this. This is your first time on tell us
a little bit about yourself and let the audience know

(02:33):
how they can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Of course, Yeah, I go by Stein Fawkes on the Internet.
That name goes back to when I was this edgy
twenty twenty some year olds want to be activist. I
am the host of the Gray Horn Pagan's podcast of

(03:00):
the tribe of the Pagans, and of course a Germanic
pagan myself. I am a believer and follower of the
old gods of Europe. That's also why I always wear
the hammer of Thor around my neck. Other than that,

(03:21):
in daily life, I work in security. I have two
kids and a wife and a step son, two cats,
and yeah, just trying to survive this crazy world. You
can best find me on YouTube under the name Steinfox,

(03:42):
or look up the Ground Pagans podcast Instagram, Grey Around Pagans.
Just look up Stein Fox or a Gray aroarnd Pagans
and you'll be sure to find.

Speaker 2 (03:51):
It right on. Tell us a little bit about your
journey of awareness and how you begin to navigate this
as it relates to some of the parasitic agendas.

Speaker 3 (04:06):
Yeah, my first real awakening was I want to say,
late teens, early twenties. I was never really raised religious.
My parents have always given me a lot of freedom
in that regard to find my own path, to find

(04:28):
what works for me, what connects with me. I've been
raised around religion, let's say, because both my grandparents from
both mothers and father's side, were Catholic Roman Catholics. So
you know, we did go to church every once in

(04:50):
a while with my grandmother from mother's side, because she
always lives closer to us. You know, we did the
Easter and Christmas thing, not necessarily because we were religious,
but because, you know, we were doing it for Grandma,
and it was in the in the church where you know,

(05:11):
all the family came together, so we were doing it
more for family than for faith. But I've always loved history.
I've always loved stories. It's it's basically what the North
European culture of course is built upon stories and storytelling.

(05:32):
And have for the longest time felt like an outsider,
and I didn't know why. So I started to look
for answers, started to look for just any kind of
answer of why I feel the way that I feel,

(05:53):
why I see the things that I see that others well,
either don't see or refuse to acknowledge, calling it coincidence
or that I'm you know, looking too deep into it.
While I know in you know, in my in my soul,

(06:14):
that you know there is something there, and it was
in my I think my early twenties. I might have
been twenty one, twenty one, twenty two when I really
found out that the world is not ruled by the
ones we were told it is ruled by, and that

(06:36):
our history is much more complicated than than we are
told then how it is written in the history books,
of course. And I actually fell into a deep depression
because of that. I was, I was really rest I

(07:00):
was angry. I felt, well, I fell into a kind
of nihilism, you know, like why would I do anything?
Why would I try to build up anything? If there
is this hard cap if you will and you have
to do certain things to go beyond that, why would I,

(07:25):
you know, even try to you know, get a job,
keep a job, if you know. And I mean eventually
later on I did realize that that nihilism is also

(07:46):
not getting me anywhere. If anything, it is holding me back,
because I was still you know, living together with my
back band girlfriends, and we still, you know, at the
very least, had rent to pay bills, to pay groceries
and all the things. So I had to be somewhat

(08:09):
of an adult at least, so I try to find
some answers in religion and spirituality also because that is
so integrated into how the world operates, both you know,
positive and negative. Of course, where there is dark, there

(08:31):
is light. There is this duality. One cannot exist without
the other. And I tried the whole Christian thing, of course,
because I mean, it's there, it's easy, it's accessible. It's
not that I really like, actually believed in God or something.

(08:54):
I believed in a higher being, and I was trying
to have it be God, because you know, as I said,
it's successible, it's easy. But I couldn't fully surrender to
it because I the one thing that stressed me out

(09:15):
too much was the the punishment site of it, the
belief or else that really that puts so much pressure
on me to watch what I do, watch what I say,

(09:35):
watch what I think. Even that I wasn't able to
just live because I was so preoccupied with with that. Really,
so I kind of reverted back to being agnostic. You know,

(09:59):
it's like, oh, yeah, I believe in a higher being,
it's just I'm not giving it a name, I'm not
giving it any any kind of shape. And that was
until I saw the TV show, the history show Vikings

(10:20):
which is very Hollywood still. But first of all, you know,
they talked about the gods of Europe, of course, so
very close to home to me. And it was the
it was the honor culture. It was the the love

(10:44):
for you know, for one another. It was the being
able to take revenge in one way or another, like
not during the other cheek and just forgive them for
what I've done. It's also a thing that I never
really got into. It's like, but if you do wrong,

(11:05):
then you should be punished for that, right, Like so
it's it's really that's what spoke to me. And I
was like, whatever, whatever this is, whatever it is that
they are portraying, it's like this, this is this is it,

(11:30):
this is it for me. And I started to you know,
of course go deeper into the history of vikings, in
history of the Norse pantheon, Dramanic pantheon, all the European pantheons,
and yeah, that really gave me the the solid foundation

(11:51):
that I need it in my life. And through researching
and investigating the stories and the more a cult esoteric
side of things as well, made me understand the world better,
made me understand myself better, you know, about who I am,

(12:14):
and why I feel the way that I feel, why
I do the things that I do, And from there
I have been on this journey of gaining knowledge, gathering wisdom,
trying to apply that wisdom ever since. And that's been
a good thirteen years ten thirteen years now. I'm currently

(12:42):
thirty three. I think had the real awakening at yeah,
around twenty three, so it's been a good ten years
of you know, just research and going further, going, going
deeper into everything and noticing patterns, seeing patterns. And yes,

(13:07):
certain patterns have always or have very often repeated itself
or have taken on taken on different forms. Social media
has definitely made some of those patterns more more noticeable.
And one of those patterns is what is described as

(13:32):
spiritual psychosis or you know, a lot of people will
confuse it with spiritual awakening, but they are most definitely
two different things.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Let's dive deeper into that. What are some of your
observations about the current state of society, especially those that
are deeply programmed.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I think a lot of us are in some kind
of a psychotics date. And I don't mean just the
the upper echelons that the so called elites I mean
that they are psychotic, narcissistic, whatever, that's that's pretty much

(14:22):
a given. Otherwise they wouldn't be where they are. You
kind of have to be. And it is because of
these like very stressful times, you know, like nothing is
for sure and things change day by day, like literally,

(14:44):
you know, what was the truth yesterday can be a
lied today. It's you know, nineteen eighty four wasn't supposed
to be a manual, yet it is. And yeah, it
is very often like we seem that so often in history.
I am a perfect example of it myself. We turn

(15:08):
to religion or spirituality for like something to hold on to,
for something to provide us with meaning. You know, if
there is something higher than ourselves, then you know there
has to be some sort of a greater plan, a

(15:29):
grander plan as well, or some sort of a protector
even because you know that's I guess that's what we're
looking for. It just this, this protector. This, I mean,
you could say we have we all have some sort
of a like spiritual daddy issues, if you will, and

(15:53):
some people, I mean they take it in all kinds
of directions. There's a huge pagan revival going on a
lot of people turning back or you know, finding the
old gods again. A lot of the younger generation is

(16:13):
also turning towards Christianity again. You know, like basically every
sort of religion or spiritual path is really growing. But
with that there's a flip side to it as well,
which I mean they those people, they see it as

(16:37):
some sort of a spiritual awakening, but if you break
it down, it's really a spiritual or religious psychosis, which
is a thing of all ages. Really, it's it's not
even that modern. Like a very good example would be

(16:59):
the French heroine John Dark or Joan of arc as.
She is best known in the English speaking language. She
was a peasant girl in the fifteenth century France. Like
she wasn't special in any way, but she at least

(17:20):
claimed to hear these voices of Saint Michaels, Saint Catherine
and Margaret who told her to lead the French army
against the English. That maybe, you know, a spiritual revelation

(17:41):
she you know, she did die a hero. But also
you know, if you as modern day psychologists, for example,
they will say that, I mean, you know, she's hearing voices.
There's got to be some you know, psychological schizophrenic issues

(18:08):
also kind of goes into the what is called the
bicameral mind. I believe that the notion that our ancestors
when they hear heard the gods talk to them, they
actually hurt the gods talk to them, or they hurt
something or someone talk to them, it wasn't just their imagination,

(18:33):
they actually heard it. So it's it's a great discussion
of like, is it mental illness, are they, you know,
are they schizophrenic? Are they you know, just delusional? Or
is something actually actually happening. In some cases people are
in fact actually delusional. And because it's spiritual awakening is

(19:01):
supposed to make you feel part of a greater whole.
It's supposed to uplift your spirits. It enables you to
get a a greater understanding of things. While with spiritual psychosis,

(19:24):
you feel scattered, you feel torn apart, you feel like
you have lost yourself, lost the the answers that you
you thought you had. Often that turns into well, at

(19:45):
very least like severe alterations and you know, perception, moved behavior,
even mystical beliefs. I mean, we've all, we've all you know,
know or know still that someone who like believes that
you know, some sort of a spirit or entity is

(20:10):
talking to them, or you know, they are in connection
with a higher being, very often not from this planet.
It's very often something eat like and they will just
go way too deep into it and make their whole
life about that one thing that they have, that one

(20:35):
experience that they had, that is a clear form of
spiritual psychosis. Unfortunately, and very simply put, those people needs
they need help.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Well, let's break this down because this is very complex.
But I definitely see where you're coming from. I left
Christianity as a teenager because of similar reasons to you,
the dogma, the fire and brimstone aspect being damned to hell.

(21:15):
But I look at where I'm at now and I
came back around full circle, not to the establishment religious Christianity,
the biblical dogmatic version. Basically, I simplified it to the
followings of Jesus Christ because it is simple and it

(21:35):
basically entails me being a good person without having to
offer anything to any spiritual beings or sacrifice anything, or
having that being expect anything in return from me other
than just being a good person. So that is where
I'm at, and it's a very simple spiritual path, but

(21:57):
it is a spiritual path nonetheless, and I could see
how even simple things like that could lead to things
that you were talking about spiritual psychosis. But there are
also many that question spirituality in general, as in, should
we be relying on non human entities for information on

(22:19):
how we should be living our lives? Shouldn't we have
a foundation of knowledge of being a good person just
because that's the way to be. But it seems that
we rely on a lot of these spiritual intelligences to
form our reality in a sense and guide us on

(22:41):
so many things that we really don't need this outside information.
We could be thriving as humanity, because it does seem
that a lot of the spiritual intelligences that people rely
on end up leading them on path of destruction, like

(23:01):
you were just mentioning with Joan of Arc. So it
is a very complex situation, and I do see many
people falling into these spiritual traps. So where does that
lead us with spirituality in general? Should we be outsourcing
anything to the spiritual realm?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
No? You you should not be outsourcing any of your
of your power really, and if you are following a
deity entity, spirits, whatever it you know, you may call it,
or it may call itself. If they are asking of
you to do that in order to you know, gain

(23:49):
favor or gain something, you should reconsider. You should really,
you know, think about what it is that you're doing.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
What it is at the pagan gods considered spiritual deities
in a sense that.

Speaker 3 (24:06):
Considered, they don't require it's it is. Uh, let's let's say,
you know, I I am a I consider myself to
be a man of thor, you know, the the protector

(24:29):
of midguard, the protector of mankindness, where I wear the
hammer to be a man of thor for me, it's
that's also the thing with European paganism. It's a very
personal practice. We don't have you know, said rules. We
don't have you know, a book that tells us, you know,

(24:52):
this is how everything should be. We have stories of ancestors,
we have stories of the gods, we have stories of
hero that tell us like, hey, this is how they
did it, this is their reward. If you want to
be like them, we suggest you follow a similar path,

(25:14):
but you know, geared towards yourself to what you do,
what you feel. But for me to be a man
of Thor. He is the strongest of all the gods.
He is a protector God. You have to at least
somewhat embody that, so go to the gym, preferably train

(25:40):
some sort of a martial arts, be a you know,
be a good husband, be a good father, be a
good a good son to your parents. The thing is,
you don't have to be a man of Thor to
be those things. But if you like, on the other hand,

(26:01):
if you want to be a man of Thor, you
are not required. It's not a requirement, but are expected
to be that if you want to honor the gods.
If you want to honor Thor, then these are the
things that are.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
It's more of embodying the archetype as opposed to making offerings,
rituals and sacrifice.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
You can do that, but it's not necessary. You know,
it's not necessary to bring some sort of a sacrifice
or make some sort of sacrifice to appease the gods.
I mean self sacrifice. Yeah, but that is, you know,
if you want to better yourself, if you want to

(26:47):
be a better man, a better woman, better husband's, better lover,
better whatever, you're going to have to sacrifice some parts
of yourself that holds you back from that. So so yeah,
embodying the archetype is is exactly what's what it is.
And no, you don't need spirituality or religion to be

(27:12):
able to do that, you know, as you as you said,
and I absolutely agree, it should be a given to
just you know, be a good person. For some people,
I guess, you know, spirituality or religion gives them that

(27:33):
that boost to, you know, to perhaps be it. And
I mean, you know, on the flip side, there are
many religious people who are absolutely horrible people. Oh yeah,
so spirituality or religion does not make you a good person.

(27:55):
It does not make you a bad person. It is
what you do with it. It is how you treat it.
It is how you embody it that makes it good
or bad.

Speaker 2 (28:09):
Now, in my introduction, I had mentioned how it's difficult
to understand how any human could be responsible for the
ideologies that are imposed on us. And you have to
look at is there some non human, some spiritual influence
that is attempting to steer humanity in certain directions? Would

(28:34):
you say that's the case or is it just multi
generational brainwashing?

Speaker 3 (28:38):
At this point, that is most certainly a large part
of it too. But I do believe that's there is
a a maliciousness that is something outside of our of ourselves,

(29:04):
that is something non, non tangible, that is, I don't
want to say, ruling this world, but definitely steering it
in in a way. A lot of people will call
it names like Moloch or bal or any of these
Canaanite gods, really because that's what the in in the

(29:30):
upper echelons, that is what is worshiped these you know,
these gods, gods who who do well not even require,
but demand sacrifice, you know, in in exchange for power,

(29:50):
for wealth, for whatever it is that that you may
may wish for. And if it's not real, well, the
people who worship those gods, those entities, they most definitely

(30:11):
believe they are real and are acting accordingly.

Speaker 2 (30:16):
Let's talk a little bit about some of the other
things that are unfolding behind the social agendas that are
deeply connected to what we're discussing as well. You mentioned
in your talking points the alien agenda. What do you
see behind.

Speaker 3 (30:33):
This trying to well, first of all, disconnect us further
from you know, human being, from being human. It's kind
of the in connection to the whole star seeds, indigo

(30:55):
children thing, believing that your soul comes from this difference planets,
this different cluster, and somehow it's always the Pleaadiens, always
the Pleiades, because they are believed to be this higher
form of life, which is theosophical. Actually it's a very

(31:20):
theosophical way of thinking, you know, a little steiner Ma
Namblavatski Veri a cult. And I think it's also control,
you know, if we're talking you know Project Bluebeam for example,
it is creating fear and through that fear, keeping control.

(31:41):
It's it's very and also so that the ruling powers
can present themselves as the heroes of humanity because you know,
we eventually managed to defeat the big bad aliens you know,

(32:03):
like the movie Independence Day, but real life, Like wouldn't
that be great for the powers that be, especially in
these days, if we have a like a true common
enemy which comes from outside, like truly outside outside, that

(32:24):
we can you know that we may finally unite as
people and fight against like wouldn't that be wonderful? So yeah,
there are multiple parts too. It's it's it's disconnect from
from ourselves, and it is keeping control and pushing it

(32:51):
to Yeah, maybe a like indeed some sort of a
one world order, one world old society, and you're gonna
need a common enemy for that.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
What are your thoughts about our true cosmology? You mentioned
the alien agenda, how it's basically attempting to get us
to look towards the stars and different planets. Do you
think that what we understand is space is something completely different.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
I don't think we understand what space actually is. I
don't know what it is. I can make you know.
I have a whole lot of theories and speculations about it's,

(33:50):
what it could be, what it might be. I don't
know what it is.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
I know.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
For sure it is not just one big vacuum, because
nothing can exist in a vacuum. Something has to has
to be there. And whether that is, you know, the
dark matter that people keep talking about, or something else,

(34:19):
I don't know. I just know that whatever we are
told spaces is not what it is. I do believe
that we have I don't want to say like our
origins are from somewhere else, but if you look at

(34:43):
the just the chemical composition of you know, us humans,
of the human human body, No, it's found nowhere else
on our planet, not in the animal kingdom, not in
the plant kingdom. We are comprised of, I mean very
simply put space dust. So yeah, I do believe that

(35:11):
our our life, energy, our our soul, our you know,
whatever name you want to give it. There are so
many names for it. I do believe that it may
have its its origins somewhere else but our our home,

(35:34):
our native planet, if you will, is Earth. We are Earthlings.
But you know part of this.

Speaker 2 (35:48):
This greater Oh what are your thoughts on what could
really be represented by the Atlas comet? When you try
to find it information about it, even from mainstream scientific sources,
it's jumbled. You can't find any tangible information. Social media

(36:09):
is an absolute shit show. It's mostly AI and vakery.
But I feel the same way about what's beyond our
atmosphere or the firmament or whatever you want to call it.
Do you think this may be connected to the alien agenda?

Speaker 3 (36:25):
Bluebeam three I Atlas? Oh boy, it's a good one.
I I don't know it is. It is an anomaly
for sure, and nothing, or at least since we started recording.

(36:53):
What has you know? What is happening beyond? You know,
beyond our our atmosphere, beyond our planet, nothing has really
ever come this close to us, like it literally moved
through our solar system miraculously, not hitting anything or getting

(37:14):
trapped in you know, any kind of of orbit. So
that is pretty miraculously miraculous on its own. It is
definitely having its effects, like nothing outside of our solar

(37:36):
system passes through without leaving any kind of a trace,
with any kind of a lasting effects, temporary or permanently.
My wife has told me she our interests line up,
but she does, you know, research on other stuff as well,
that solar flares have been increasing incredibly. I I just

(38:00):
talked to to someone like literally before I came on here,
who said that, you know, at least he has he
has heard that it has left some sort of a
plasma trail. I believe even you know, a little bit

(38:22):
of speculation that it came through the asteroid belt or
what we believe is the asteroid belt. We don't even
know if it has hit anything that maybe in that belt,

(38:43):
and if it did, what the consequences are of it.
So what is three I Atlas? I have no idea,
but it is an anomaly and it its effects are
something that we should keep an eye on and it

(39:05):
should be studied over the next few years.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
Let's get to something else that's in your talking point,
the return of Christ and some of the psychosis that
may be associated with that.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
That's that's a lot actually a lot of people. I
mean that that also kind of kind of goes into
the into a hero worship, the hero syndrome, if you will,
always looking for an outside savior because we have forgotten

(39:47):
what it's like to to be self sufficient, to you know,
save ourselves in time of need. And I I do
believe that there is a return of well Christ consciousness,
if you will, that higher consciousness. It is expanding, It

(40:15):
seems to be expanding among you know, among us, more
and more people coming to some sort of conclusion, gaining
a or you know, being awakened, if you will, you know,
with all twenty twenty Spiel was another huge awakening for

(40:40):
a lot of people. It's it's basically the nine to
eleven of this generation, if you will, also any magnitude.
Really so, I do believe in the return of a
of a Christ's consciousness. But what I know for or

(41:00):
is not going to happen, is Christ in the flesh
or the literal spirits of Christ coming down from the
heavens and wiping out all the bodies and saving us.
It's a beautiful dream, but it's a pipe tream. It's

(41:21):
not what is going to happen. It is a new
wave of enlightenment, if you will. That is the return
of Christ, or that's how I interpret it, That's how
I see it.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
There's also another very dangerous spiritual movement, but it's of
course fueled by the ruling class, and that's Christian Zionism,
which if let play out, could lead to the destruction
of our planet. But it does seem that there is

(42:00):
is a revealing of this ideology going on right now
in a big way, almost a self destructive way, which
makes me question if there's something else, bigger going on
with the Zionist movement right now. What are your thoughts
on that.

Speaker 3 (42:23):
I think it's too hard to keep these things hidden
nowadays we are, you know, in the age of information
and with the the enlightenment waves of the of the
last few years, and also just you know, people really

(42:46):
getting good at basic pattern recognition. Things are not being
able to to be hit anymore nothing, you know, I
think like true a cult like as in hidden, I
don't think that will ever really happen again, and self destructive. Yeah,

(43:16):
but that that is with with anything that is trying
to you know, keep up the keep up the facade,
keep up the charades, keep you know, if they, you know,
they or any any group keeps telling the same lie,
you know, keeps trying to keep on the mask that

(43:42):
that they have on, eventually they are going to break.
And if you're going to tell a lie, you also
better tell everyone the same lie, because that's another thing,
Like you can't tell one group of people, oh, we're
doing this, and then another group of people's like, oh,
we're doing this, but I thought you were doing that,

(44:04):
Like why you're now saying that you're doing that? You know,
it's it's confusion. And if people are confused, they're gonna
look for answers, and then they're gonna find out, Oh
they're not what they seem, they're not what they portray
themselves to be. So I think, you know, with that
and just the like, nobody can keep anything hidden anymore,

(44:30):
it's getting harder and harder to keep it up. Is
there's something more dangerous underneath it? I don't know, but
something will take its place.

Speaker 2 (44:41):
That is the big question right now is what's next,
because it does seem there's a level of self destruction
happening at very high levels. It may be, like you said,
they can't keep it going any longer. But what I
find very interesting is how we're nownavigating AI right now

(45:02):
and how it reflects some of the nonsense, and it
is bringing to light a lot of fakery that is
being portrayed right now. I know for myself, I rarely
look at social media anymore because everything is AI and
fake and you can no longer tell what is real

(45:22):
or not. But I'm seeing that this is a trend.
More people are checking out because they don't want to
see AI for everything and be misled by the videos
that they're watching, so they're not going to participate anymore.
And I think this is helping with the destruction of
that system.

Speaker 3 (45:42):
I agree. I do use AI myself, but I use
it as I believe it is intendance to be used
as a tool. You know, it's just it's helping me
with you know, the quality of my podcast. It's helping

(46:04):
me with the quality of my my audio, with you know,
the like thumbnails like actually making interesting thumbnails because I
don't know how to work photoshop, so I use it
as a as a tool, but I'm not dependent on it.

(46:26):
AI slop AI videos, AI girlfriends. Yeah, things are are
getting pretty bad. But I think also as as with
anything any you know, new shiny toy, if you will,

(46:47):
it all gets abused. You know, you have to abuse
it first before you really understand what the risks of
it are. And I do believe that it can help us.
It can you know, free up a lot of time

(47:08):
for us that we may use for things that will
actually benefit us. I've even seen theories at least or
speculations not sure about that, that it could help in
spiritual development, as in it could like do some of

(47:29):
our day to day tasks, freeing up time for us
to really you know, turn inwards, to really start doing
our our shadow work, understand ourselves, understand the the bigger holes.
So not like AI directly being involved, but more as

(47:53):
in a tool that can free up time that can
take that can take over the monotonous tasks, the soul
crushing tasks that prevent us from really understanding and discovering
our power. Then again, it is already used by the

(48:17):
military industrial complex. I believe in the Ukraine War, whether
or not that's still going on or even still relevant,
they have used AI drones. I believe that we're programmed

(48:41):
to target certain certain vehicles, certain groups, certain facilities. But
you know that's with every everything wants. You know, the
military found finds out it's a thing, they're going to
weaponize it, and it's it's one of really one of

(49:05):
two things that or yeah, it's a thing that we've always.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
I don't ever have a problem with using AI for
things that can make our lives better or that are
good for humanity in general. The misuse of AI is
my concern. Using it for deceptive purposes, using it to
harm someone, those are the things that I am heavily against,

(49:32):
and I think that we really need to take a
close look at the way we're using it. Even if
it's to make a silly video to post online, but
you don't put a disclaimer that it's AI, and it
deceives people into believing something that is not true. It
may not seem like it would have a big effect,

(49:54):
but you don't know what that could lead to in
that person's life. And with the state of psychosis that
we were discussing earlier, it probably couldn't take much for
some people to get in those rabbit holes, like we
were saying earlier as well. So yeah, it can be
a dangerous thing, but it can also, like you said,

(50:16):
be very beneficial if used in the right way.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
We've we've also seen it with with deep faces already,
you know, making certain well X rated videos and then
you know, pacing someone's face over it. How long is
it going to be before that's used as blackmail? You know,
go improve that, it's ai, go improve that.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
It's a deep fa last few minutes we have, let's
talk a little bit about how we should be navigating
the realm. As it stands, things will most likely get
even more crazy as time goes on. It seems the
only way to make get to the other side of

(51:01):
this is to go through it. We seem to be
in a bit of a self destructive phase when it
comes to the systems that aren't working for us. How
to get past that, how to rebuild? Is the question
that a lot of people are asking right now. What
are your thoughts on where we're at and how to
navigate through it?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
Stay off social media as much as possible. I know,
a lot of us are already there or you know,
seek out some of the alternative platforms. There are very
good alternative platforms, alternative social media, whether us of course,
the reason why, you know, they're not as big as

(51:50):
you know some of the more well known ones. Always
or not. Let me rephras that don't just assume things
to be true. So very simply put, you know, do

(52:13):
your own research. It's a little little too oversimplified. But
stay stay vigilant, you know, just because even spiritual leaders
tell you something is happening or will happen, you know,
as we've seen with the latest rapture incident, if you will,

(52:35):
that was the the end of September I believe, you know,
so many people believed it. They fell for it because
they you know, the one they wanted to believe it.
So stay skeptic, i'd say, always always second guess, especially

(52:56):
in you know, in these days as you mentioned, like
also ai Can is now getting really good at manufacturing
certain things. Stay true to yourself straight, stay true to
your your own values, keep your circle small, take care

(53:17):
of yourself, take care of your your family, your loved ones.
And yeah, just stay on social media as much as possible.
Don't watch the news, stop reading the newspapers online, and

(53:40):
you know, like actually physical. When I stopped doing that,
I started feeling a whole lot better because everything is
just I mean, it's all negativity. So that is going
to affect you. And the best advice hold on for

(54:00):
dear life. We will get through it. But it is
a it is a dark, dark time. But it's also
in these dark times where where light shines the brightest,
so probably be that light right on.

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Very well said, before we close out, tell us a
little bit about your work on the Gray Orn Pagan's website.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
The Yeah on the website, the podcast, the tribe. It's
it's really one one whole. I try to well, first
of all, make people aware of the ways of our ancestors,

(54:51):
because I do feel that a return to our ancestral
waste could be very, very beneficial for us. I try
to educate people on European paganism European spirituality because there

(55:13):
are still a lot of misconceptions about it, and I
do not shy away from more controversial topics or symbols
such as the black son, the swastika, the Othala rum.
I would much rather educate people and actually use those

(55:37):
symbols in their intended ways. So there will definitely be
some things that you know, people do not agree with,
and you know that's fine with me. On the podcast,
I really go into just all manner of religion, spiritualities,

(56:00):
virtual paths, alternative health because I just I want to
explore it as as much as possible and I know
that it is beneficial for a lot of people too.

(56:21):
And with the Tribe of the Greater Pagans, we really
try to be this close knit community that helps each other,
that lifts each other up. That is a place where
you can be yourself, where you can where you can learn,

(56:42):
where you can you know, even get some just some
support if you're having a bad day. You know, many
of us, you know, if we're having a bad day,
we'll just send a message into the group and be like, hey, guys,
I'm having a bit of a rough day. Can I
you know, can I get some Can I get some wives?

(57:03):
Can I get a bit of a bit of support.
I need a little little pick me up. So that's
also what we're really trying to do with the tribe,
be a very open and open minded community, and you
don't have to be pagan or spiritual or anything to
be to be part of its just I mean kind

(57:27):
of going back to the beginning. Just be good, right on, man.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
I love it. Stein, Thank you so much. I'd love
to talk again in the future. And until next time. Everyone,
have a wonderful evening. We will talk again tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (57:41):
We'll see y'all.

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