Possessed by the Spirit of Propaganda, Delusion & Division, Predictive Retro-Syncs | BG Cast - Forbidden Knowledge News

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I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials. The systems which are in place
to keep the world same are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
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dedicated his life to understanding the nature of human consciousness,
nature of reality, true human origins, and the occult nature
of our governments and global establishments. Steven, Welcome back. How
you doing.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
I'm good man, Thanks for having me on. I'm just
kind of taking in again, like you, this this strange,
unknown and uncharted territory for humanity that we're currently in
and maybe for dispatch of humanity. But yeah, dude, just
I'm riding the waves just as much as anybody right now.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
So it's good to be back, dude, and it is
great to have you back.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Today we're going to once again explore some of the
spiritual teachings and insights that have been passing through your
field of awareness as of lately. You mentioned the chaos.
There are some times I find myself very disappointed with
what I perceive to be a collective state of mind.
But I also have to remember that everything we see

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online is to a certain degree theater in propaganda, and
we have to take everything with a grain of salt.
But it does seem more at an unfortunate point where
we do have to question everything we see in here,
especially online. There seems to be concerted efforts through propaganda

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to have us believe that people are just becoming craze
shooters out of nowhere. It may be true to a
certain degree, I believe if it is, there is some
outside manipulation that is causing this, or it could all
be deeper levels of theater. We don't know because we've

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been subjected to it so much. Most of what we
see has a level of theater to it. But we're
going to explore that a little bit today. That's a
lot to get to before we do. Just remind the
audience a little bit about yourself and let them know
how they can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
All Right, guys, I'm Stephen a Big cast and I'm
the podcast that covers this great awakening and everything that
it entails. We dive into consciousness, the occult, the conspiracies,
we even dive into psychedelics, we dive into psychology even
and my goal here is is to kind of help
everybody along and help this along because we're all essentially

(05:04):
going through this together. We're learning this together, and that's
a very important part of this experience that we're all.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Learning this together.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Nobody really knows more than anybody else, and if anybody
is telling you that they do, they are bullshitting you
because we're all and like I said, this very strange,
unknown and non charted territory. So what I do is
I break that down in a way where we can
kind of take from it the good things, you know,
what we can learn and we can apply as far
as a solution based mindset to achieving our spiritual evolution

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and getting ourselves out of this false matrix system. And
I kind of throw discernment at the BS. You know,
there's a lot of BS, even in the spiritual and
conspiracy community guys. And you can find me on a
course the Forbidden Knowledge Network with Chris over here, and
you can find me on Rumble in YouTube under bg cast,
all major podcast platforms under bg cast, and all social

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media under bg cast.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
We'll share your concerns with the audience about what we're seeing.
You heard my opening statements, give us your thoughts about everything.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Well, man, I'm gonna tell you this.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
So I actually I threw this post up on X
Today because and I threw it up on Facebook too,
because in a lot of my ways have kind of
lost my fucks for social media, and there's a there's
a reason for that.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I've loved this point, yeah, dude, Oh yes, yes, I've
lost all my fucks.

Speaker 3 (06:27):
I mean, I'm at the point where I'm just gonna
do like my normal good morning posts and I'm gonna
freaking just advertise my shows. And that's where it's at
because one of the things, and we actually brought this
up on our dual show that we did for the gathering,
it's building in another illusion around you, and you're already
in this illusionary reality. You know, we have the algorithms

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that are tailored to the viral, to the sensational, even
in the darker polarities. And now there's even like empathy
psyops that are going on too that I've kind of
seen just start to kind of spread out of nowhere.
And it's at a point, you know, where where I
agree with you, dude, we can't We absolutely cannot believe
anything that we see online at this point.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
We cannot. It could be a I, it could be fake,
it could be CGI. We don't know. And this is
the thing I said to you.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
It's a double edged sword, because you know I and
I talked about this with you before.

Speaker 4 (07:23):
It's a double edged sword.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
Because everything we see online is fake and gay, and
everything we experience is real and true, but we can't
prove it. It's like it's it's it's quite literally, it's
it's a divine sense of humor in my eyes.

Speaker 5 (07:35):
Man.

Speaker 3 (07:35):
But that that's what we're dealing with.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (07:37):
You we're already an illusionary reality. We're already in the
societal maya. This reality is an illusion, and now we
have this other illusion that's being it's like an inception
illusion at this point, like you're you're you're you're getting
an illusion built around you while you're already in another
illusionary world. And now you're even getting this other illusionary
world thrown in your face where everything is tailored to you.

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You know, you're not getting anything objective anymore. Everything is
going to be tailored to your point of view. You're
going to be, like I said, everything, the viral, the sensational,
the dark, the the hideous, the cruel, all being elevated
to the top of the algorithm. And you know, some
people want to say, it's a loose farm, it's a
loose harvest. Absolutely, yes, I agree, But you can stop

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yourself from becoming and all you can eat buffet when
it comes solution, if you you know, train your mind
and you heal yourself. Those are those are the two
biggest things that you can do to not be in
all you can eat buffet for these evil anti human
whether it be politicians, interdimensionals, whatever we're looking at right now,
and you know the theater too, man, And I'm going

(08:41):
to say this, I think I think you know right now,
I'm leaning towards it being a bit of both, because
I do think there is Yeah, that's the thing we
see in this man, whenever we look for the answers
to these bigger questions, we see that they very rarely
sway to either end of the polarity spectrum. It's usually
in the it's usually both things. And so I do

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think there's definitely theatrics at play. I do think though
there's some there's some kind of agregoric dark energies at play.
And I kind of see it acting out, dude, and
the people who have bought out, bought into this false
matrix system like one hundred percent, dude, like they live it,
they breathe it, they sleep it. You see almost this
dark demonic behavior coming out of these individuals.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Dude, and I think you know what it is.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
It's like, yes, you know, we we probably have Manchurian candidates.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
I'm not doubting that at all.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
Where I think the icing on the cake is though,
is these individuals, because they have bought into this false
matrix system, they're channeling these dark agregoric entities and energies
into their being because you know, everything is free will
based here, you know, and everything is intention based from
what both you and I have seen, and you know
you put your intention into buying into this system with

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your free will, and you know, playing this game or
whatever it is, and through your free will, you're opening
your self up the channeling these dark energies.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
So I mean, in some ways, I'm even gonna spitball
with this. Of course, this is speculation.

Speaker 3 (10:06):
It could be that they take these Manchurian candidates or
these shooters and all of that, and they do do
some kind of dark stuff on them that opens them
up more to.

Speaker 4 (10:16):
These dark aggoric energies. I don't want to tell this out, but.

Speaker 1 (10:20):
Again, the few people recently who are speculating that there
is some sort of black magic digital sigil that may
be at play that is infecting people's minds in a sense.
I talked with a few people about the TikTok which

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phase it. I talked with you about this as well,
about how younger people are starting to gravitate towards black
magic and practice it because they saw someone else do
it on TikTok and it's causing a lot of problems.
This may also be connected, according to some guests I've
had recon to a psychological black operation that is trying

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to essentially get people possessed with this dark eggrigor. So
what you're saying kind of makes sense if you believe
what a lot of the speculation is about it.

Speaker 3 (11:20):
No, No, I completely agree, and thanks for coming in
on that, because I would love to add I'll add
to that as well. I wouldn't doubt that, man, you know,
I wouldn't doubt that. Of course, we know the parasite class,
the Invisible College. They are masters of the human psyche
and they know the human consciousness very well that I
have to give them a world of credit for, even
though I despise doing that, I have to give credit

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where credits due. But so it's very possible they could
be doing something like this. There could be some kind
of symbol that they are implementing, because dude, I've seen
people like I'm gonna even throw this out here, I've
seen somebody who has been a.

Speaker 4 (11:56):
Devout anarchist for years.

Speaker 3 (11:59):
Actually I knew them back like when I was originally
gotten into the anarchist community back in like twenty twelve,
twenty thirteen, So this point, I've known them for like
twelve years, and they've been like a devout anarchist man,
and they had a lot of discernment, they had a
lot of personal sovereignty. And what happened is they ended
up taking a break from everything for a little bit,

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and then they came back to the scene to start,
you know, kind of beating the streets again.

Speaker 4 (12:24):
But then I noticed a change in them.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
They started buying into Zionism, they started buying into like
a lot of these different and I'm like looking at
this individual, and I'm like, and of course this is
a buddy's, you know, buddies wife of mine, and and
like I'm looking and you know, I'm friends with him too,
and I'm like looking at her, and I've been talking
him about it.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
I'm like, dude, is she okay?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Like she's and and he kind of was like, I
don't even know what's happening when it comes to this,
So it's even getting to the best of us, you
know what I mean, it's even getting to people who
have been on you know, there's is.

Speaker 1 (12:53):
Where I wanted to go with people we can actually
physically touch and talk to, to gauge where most people
are at, because this is something that I am almost
obsessed with doing, is gauging where the collective is, or
at least trying to getting out into reality and talking
to people, or at least observing how people are acting

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and what is permeating through real reality. And every time
I do, it's, like you said, it's always never as
bad as they're portraying in the media, of course, but
I do surround myself with people of like mind, so
it's more difficult to find out what the opposite side

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of the spectrum thinks about what society is doing and
where we're headed and things of this nature. So I
really enjoy hearing the other side's perspective, at least the
normal person that you come across on a daily basis
on the street. So when you mentioned that you're talking
with someone who seems to have a little bit of

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a mind virus infection going on. That's very interesting to
me because this is how we gauge where we're really
at right.

Speaker 3 (14:09):
I would one hundred percent agree, man, And it's happened
to a few people I've seen. Again, like I was,
I don't know if I told you about this, I
might have. I have a friend of mine who I've
been friends with now for I want to say, twenty
plus years, and this man was one of the most
spiritual dudes I knew back in the day when I
was first starting, like he he started, you know, he

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was practicing Kundalini yoga. He was actually a driving factor
for me to pick up Kundalini yoga. You know, very sovereign,
very discerting individual.

Speaker 4 (14:40):
And then what happened.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
Is twenty twenty came along and he kind of started
to do in which was strange because he was devout dude.
Like people think I'm devout and disciplined. This man, I
would even say, was a level above me in the
way that he operated. And he just fell off and
then he started to absorb the leftist mine virus man.
And then I see this guy the posting, you know,

(15:02):
my friend the post he makes on Facebook now all
about Trump, this Trump, that blackpill, this black pill, that
like we're doomed, We're gonna die.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
This is what's.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
Gonna And like I've I've had a couple of times
where you know, I've I've talked to Him'm like, bro,
this ain't this ain't the dude I used to know.

Speaker 4 (15:17):
I'm like, what's happening to you? Man?

Speaker 3 (15:19):
Like and uh and of course, like that wasn't well received,
So like I did my part. I went to him,
But dude, I see it in the What we have
right now is a little bit of both in my eyes,
because I'm among the general population pretty much every day,
and we have people who.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
Are waking up.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Like I don't know if I mentioned this on your
show before, but again, I had my one of my
front desk workers, somebody you wouldn't even even know or
think would be awake.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
I walk up to her, went in and.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
She looks at me and she goes does everything feel
fake to you? Does time like feel not real? And
like I'm looking at her and I'm just like in
my mind, I'm like, oh hell yeah, Like I can
plan a seed at this point in time, So you know,
I play it all koy and nonchalant.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
I'm like, well, what do you mean, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Everything feels fakes kind of going into it. And I've
had more and more people kind of come up to
me and be like, you know, why does everything feel
so surreal? It feels like everything that's happening is not
even real right now. So we do have people who
are igniting their divine sparks or they're starting to ignite there,
and then we have the opposite man, we have people
who are diving deeper into the dark, darkest depths.

Speaker 4 (16:21):
Of the mind virus.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
And I want to bring up what you were talking about,
the dark magic sigil and the sigil on in the
black magic on TikTok. You know, I do think that
could be appropriated intentionally. I do think that could be
being put out there intentionally on the caveat though too
that what we have in our society is I don't
even call them real atheists. I call them nihilistic atheists.

(16:46):
And the reason why I call them nihilistic atheists is
they think just because everything is by coincidence and chance
and it has no meeting, they can do whatever they
want without any kind of recourse or any kind of consequences,
you know, And these individuals, you know, are really a
lot of the ones who are picking up into black magic.
And it's a recipe for disaster in my eyes, because
we have somebody who doesn't believe in the divine but

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is believing in energies, and that energies can be manipulated.
And you don't have that foundation in the divine light,
you're just opening up a doorway for a lot of
crap and a lot of different again channeling dark eggregrk entity.
So I see a little bit of both man, and
that's that's the truth. Like, you know, I see people
who are I mean, dude, and a lot of the
people I talk to you, they're fed up with this system.

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They're just afraid. They're just afraid of what comes next.
That's the biggest thing. They're afraid. And it's like almost
because of that fear, a lot of people in our
system we've trauma bonded with Stockholm syndrome at this point.
That's that's very much what's kind of happened here. So
even though there are people who are waking up and
there are there is another group of people that are
diving deeper into the depths getting infected by the mind viruses. Ultimately,

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what we have is this overwhelming fear in the collective
that's really starting to permeate.

Speaker 4 (17:59):
And of course, you know, and.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
People are afraid it manifests and not so great ways.
And of course the parasite class in the invisible college
is going to take advantage of this fear and use
it to do whatever they wish. Man of course, you know,
the collect and consciousness manifest events. So that's my take, dude.
It's a little bit of both. Like we see darkness,
but there's also some light.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Peaks there is, and I want to get to that
as well. I do want to address that this mind
virus infection affects both sides. It does effect the extreme left,
but it also affects the extreme right in a way. Now,
what we're seeing and what we have been is this

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presentation through social media and other high impact events that
affects communities like the LGBTQ Alphabet soup community. The portrayal
that Christians are bigots and God hates you and Jesus
hates you because you're gay. This has been an ongoing

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psychological operation permeating through these communities to get these people
to hate Christianity so much that they turn towards the
dark side and they embrace things like Satanism. I have
seen this so blatantly happen. Now it does happen on
the other side, but it's not quite as harmful when

(19:23):
it happens on the other side in my perspective. We'll
get into some of the other propaganda we see coming
out of the right. But what are your thoughts on
what I just said about those groups being pushed to
the dark side.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (19:40):
Absolutely, I completely agree.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
And this is one of the biggest reasons why I
think they have they've pretty much painted Christianity in a
bad light, is it's because of Christ. Christ supersedes religion,
at least.

Speaker 4 (19:56):
In my eyes.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
You know, I'm, of course like a fundamentalist right now,
would hear me and call me a heretic and that
I'm blasphemous, But based on all the research of the
Bible and the Christian religion that I have done, I'm
going to tell you Christ supersedes religion, and Christ is
a foundational layer and energetic layer of this reality. It's
an awakener, it's a revealer, it is all. It is love,

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It's compassion, you know what I mean, the things that
we really need in this world. So in my eyes,
one of the reason why, reasons why Christianity has been
painted in such a bad picture to the left and
it's causing them to go further to the dark side.

Speaker 4 (20:37):
I'll get to the right after.

Speaker 3 (20:38):
This is because if you explore deep enough, you find
out that Christ is a way of being okay, and
you find out that Christ is embodying these spiritual principles
into the physical and channing the channeling them out into
every facet of your existence. Now we know that love

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is not just an emotion and a force. So imagine,
you know, a collective of people discovering this, finding out
that love is a force and a power and utilizing
that to help fix a lot that's very threatening to
the parasite class and the invisible college. They don't want that.
So in my eyes, that's why Christianity is painted in

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such a bad picture is because Christ supersedes religion. And
when you get to that point of your evolution and
understand having beginning to get an understanding of what Christ
actually is, you see that it is just an embodiment
of the divine light and they don't want that. So
that would be my take on the left side as
far as the right, And you know, I give the

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right just as much crap as I do the left.

Speaker 4 (21:46):
Yeah, the right.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
The right is just as mind virus as the left.
The difference between the right and the left mind viruses
is the right mind The right mind viruses are towards
authoritariat authoritarianism.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
They they want the right to believe just because Trump's
in power, Trump can start taking like, for instance, the
whole thing with taking excuse me, taking away the guns
from trans people, right. I think, you know, so many
conservatives are on board with.

Speaker 4 (22:16):
That right now.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
But little do the conservatives know that that's going to
be used against them in the future.

Speaker 4 (22:24):
It's slippery slope.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
But because Trump has everybody so goddamn hypnotized, it's a
mass hypnosis at this point in my eyes, you know.
And we've had this conversation, man, I know your thoughts
on this before, but all I'm going to say is this,
Trump's definitely a master caballist. We might not have proof,
we might not have any shred of hard, super hard
evidence on that, but the way that man hypnotizes and

(22:49):
manipulates people. The man knows something, and that's all I'm
going to say at that. But again, the mind viruses
towards the right are for this authoritarianism and to push
this authoritarian agenda, which they don't know that they're basically
you know, because it's the biggest oxymoron. It's funny because
the right's all about America, you know, and the Constitution

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and all of that.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Stuff, but they are literally burying it.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
They're literally becoming its own undoing because they are accepting
of these authoritarian measures just because they're being put out
by Trump. So this is the mind virus we see
plaguing the right at this point in time, and it
is it's a recipe for disaster.

Speaker 4 (23:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Ultimately we see the parasite class. They want some kind
of civil war, they want some kind of civil unrest.
Because again, let's go back to what you were saying
about the slippery slope with the gun. A lot of
people have forgotten that martial law was enacted back It
was either in twenty nineteen or twenty twenty, and it
was never taken out of effect. Now you look at

(23:51):
what Trump did to DC, you look at what he
did to New York. He sent the National Guard to
New York, he sent the National Guard to DC. Martial
law is still in effect. It never has been taken
off the table. And again this could potentially be used
on us down the road because it's still an effect
and not taken off the table. And then we have
the right kind of congratulating this, you know, like, oh yeah,

(24:12):
go ahead and send the troops into the cities and
things like that until it's for them. You know, this
is this is the kind of hypnotization.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
In the brainwashing that we have going on at this point.
So it is, it's it's it's a it's a recipe.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
It's a prepared and planned recipe to send two sides
funneling headfirst into a brick wall. And none of these
people understand they're heading head first for a brick wall
because they're blinded by everything that's in front of them
at this time.

Speaker 4 (24:38):
But this is essentially what's happening in mind.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Not only that is, even though things have sped up,
it's still somewhat of a slow rollout. And you're one
hundred percent right about how people who support Trump are
seemingly blindly marching into this technocratic surveillance state with open arms.

(25:00):
That is one of the most dangerous parts I see
of supporting that. You also have the Zionist aspect that
they attempt to get people sucked into homegrown terrorist agenda
coming out on the right as well, focusing on right

(25:22):
now it's the illegal immigrants, But another slippery slope. They
could easily turn that around. What happens in four years
from now if someone else is elected, if a democratic
president is elected, and the pendulum swings as hard as

(25:42):
it can. But all of this infrastructure for surveillance and
law enforcement and AI has already been implemented under the
Trump administration, and it's there for the pendulum swing. Do
you think they're just gonna get rid of it? Fucked no,
They're going to start using it on their side. So

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either way is a nightmare in my perspective.

Speaker 4 (26:08):
Oh absolutely, man.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
And this is where you know, I've had conversations with
people on both the right and the left when it
comes to this. And one of the biggest things you
know this is you know this just as well as
a lot of people watching and listening to this show
is a lot of this stuff is done over the
course of years because the parasite class and the invisible college,
they take advantage, like I said, they know the human

(26:31):
psyche and human consciousness very very well, and they take
advantage of the focus factor of the collective because they
keep everybody bombarded constantly. And you know, we talk about
how our even our attention span is a collective has
gone down due to the shorts and the reels.

Speaker 4 (26:46):
TikTok.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
Now we have like a one minute or a ten
second to one minute attention span at best. We're looking
at a general collective with that man. So they're in
the process of doing a lot of things behind the scenes,
and they've been setting up a lot of things behind
the scenes for the past I don't know, I want
to say it like six decades at this point. They've
been been setting a lot of this up. So and

(27:09):
this because the conversation I have with the right and
the left is to explain to them, in order to
really see this in a bigger picture, you have to
kind of go back and look at the scope of everything.
And the responses that I get are we can't go
back to the past. We're in the now, all right.
It's like, you know, we're in the now we can't
just focus on the past. And I'm like, man, and
of course, like I have my own arguments to that,

(27:30):
don't get me wrong, but it is it's it's getting
to a point where, you know, and I talked about
this as far as peaceful resistance goes on our end,
when it comes to this, it's getting to a point
where we have two huge groups of what I would say,
insanely hypnotize people who are infected by mind viruss is,

(27:51):
who are doing everything that this system is wanting them
to do. And you know, we have it could be
a great amount of the population here in the United States,
and we have this bigger part of our population that's
a green all of this stuff that's going on, and
like I said, we got two size heading straight for
a brick wall and they don't even realize it. And

(28:14):
then it comes to us. You know, we're we're sitting here,
the sovereign ones, the discerning ones, and we're looking.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
At the show.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
And don't get me wrong, we're eating our popcorn, but
we're like, holy crap at the same time at you know,
everything that's kind of unfolding. And this gets to the point, guys,
where we have to take it upon ourselves to learn
how to say no, you know. And I was in it.
And again, you know, anytime I bring this up, I do.
I sense the collective fear. And when I say no,

(28:41):
that doesn't mean we're grabbing our pitchforks, our torches, our
Moltov cocktails and we're heading down to our state capitol
building and we're starting a French revolution. That's not saying no.
You say no through your actions. You say no through
your choices, you say no through your habits. I was
talking about Kerry yesterday on the FKA and panel, talking
about how she was going through the airport and she

(29:02):
didn't want to step through the X ray machine because
she didn't want to get irradiated and she goes, I'd
rather you pat me down, okay, And that's her saying
no in a small sense to having, you know, having
herself I radiated and subjecting herself to this and going
through maybe taking a little bit of an inconvenience of
her time and getting the pat down as opposed to

(29:23):
getting irradiated by the X ray machine. This is what
it means, guys, This is what's saying no means. And
this is ultimately where we have to start getting our
focus and our energy is towards saying no. We don't
want this false matrix reality anymore. We don't want this
authoritarian slash totalitarian system, and we have to start making
the choices and laying the foundation in order to say no,

(29:45):
Like how are you eating? Are you eating great foods?
Are you taking care of yourself? What is the content
that you're taking? Are you participating in the things that
you wish to no longer see to be? Are you
participating in the system at all? So this this is
where it kind of comes down.

Speaker 5 (30:01):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
It's ultimately the balls being thrown in our court in
a lot of ways, and not a lot.

Speaker 4 (30:06):
Of people realize it.

Speaker 3 (30:08):
And this is where the ones who do, like us
and I hopefully others realize after this conversation too, that
we have to start standing up and saying no through
the actions and the intentions that guide us through this world.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
And what will happen? You know?

Speaker 3 (30:21):
And a lot of people this is the biggest thing
I come across, Chris. A lot of people are like, well,
I'm just one person. Well, you as one person are
very powerful. Do not discount on how strong you are
as an individual, especially with your divine spark.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
If we all start putting the no into the collective consciousness,
because like I said, the collective consciousness is what manifests
the events that lead to what we're dealing with right now.
And if you put enough no into the collective consciousness, man,
the no is going to start to gain some strength,
and the know is going to start to get bigger
and bigger and bigger, and ultimately it's going to start

(30:59):
counteracting what we're doing here. And I think it's just
because a lot of people have been conditioned, even in
our community, man, have been conditioned to think everything is
hyper complex. A solution to this could not be that simple.
But that's the thing, guys, you've been conditioned to think
everything is hyper complex, so you ignore the simple solutions
that are right in front of your eyes. So yeah, man,

(31:20):
that's what I have to say about that, And that's
my take. And yeah, man, it's it's becoming a slippery slot.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Let's get a little deeper into the solution aspect, because
you're touching on something I think is very important. You
mentioned not taking to the streets. This is, in my perspective,
one hundred percent right. Because everything we try to take
out to the streets and protest, it's going to be

(31:47):
infiltrated by groups. All these movements are infiltrated by the
parasitic class and turned against us in every way possible.
That and I believe right now this would be something
that they would want us to do. They would want
us to take to the streets because they have ways

(32:09):
of identifying every single person. We have facial recognition. They
can identify who is on what side of what agenda.
And as long as they're going to keep pushing the
domestic terrorism possibilities, that is one of the most dangerous

(32:30):
things that anyone could probably do right now is take
to the street. It seems like the only way to
win this game, like you were saying, is not to
play at all, to check out and build our own systems.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Absolutely, man, and this is now, it is It's ultimately
the way to move forward. And again it makes a
lot of people freed, it does. But this is the thing.
It's like, there's nothing to be afraid of. And when
it comes to checking out of this, and yes, you're right,
they do. They want the civil unrest. They want us

(33:07):
to get unruly they want us because that, like I said, dude,
martial law is still enacted. They could just send them
that National Guard wherever they want at this point and
to you know, to spell protesters and anything like that. Ultimately, man,
I've said this before and I'll say this again, the
time for talking is over. The time for doing is now.
You know, a lot of us here, we're all well aware.

(33:29):
We're all well aware.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Of what the issues are here.

Speaker 3 (33:32):
We can see them as plain as day, and you know,
just continuing to sit and talk about them instead of
moving into solutions and getting the ball rolling. This is
the transition I want to see a lot of this
community start to make. And I know it's easier so
than done. We all have lives, we all have things
that we do on the side.

Speaker 4 (33:51):
Some of us have families, you know. But really it
starts small, dude. That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
Everybody thinks it when it comes to action, and that
they need to take this big, gigantic leap when it
comes to moving into a solution based mindset. It's not
a gigantic leap at all. It's actually just kind of
the flip of a switch. Instead of talking about how
messed up the food is Stop eating the messed up food.
Go get dude, and dude, like, here's the thing. I'm

(34:20):
going to give everybody a cheat sheet Asian grocery stores. Okay,
you want to get really good quality food at a
cheap price. Now, don't get me wrong, I'd stay away
from the fish because they got a little bit of
a different standard for fish than we do. But as
far as far as the meat and the vegetables and
a lot of that stuff, dude, all just as good
as your normal grocery store at a cheaper price. So

(34:42):
eating the healthy food is not a hard thing to do.
And there are ways to eat good healthy food on
a budget too. If you want to know those, hit
me up. I can help you out. Are you still
listening to mainstream media or mainstream alternative media, because here's
the thing. Now that alternative media has become mainstream, guess.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Who runs it? The parasite last It's.

Speaker 3 (35:05):
Like I know we were joking about like back in
the day before all this happened, we were like, man,
this is gonna be a great day when conspiracies are
like mainstream and everybody believes them. And now I'm like
looking at it and I'm like, man, I really wish
I could go back to that. That's Stephen the past
and Batman slap them because like, look at what's happening
to this. But again, are you still in taking this
content that's diverting your focus, that's not putting your focus

(35:29):
towards what's actually important, because that's number the number one
thing too. Also, Man, anything you got to bring to
the table, if you bake bread, if you grow veggies,
if you hunt, you know what I mean, or you
know you're good at building things, you're good at anything
is going to count.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Man.

Speaker 3 (35:45):
Find this is find a way you can utilize that
to help bring new earth into being, you know, whether
it's going out and helping people fix their homes in
the community kind of you know, just laying a groundwork
for a new way of being.

Speaker 4 (35:59):
So this is the solution. Man.

Speaker 3 (36:01):
Are you still buying things that contribute to the matrix
system too? Because here's the thing. In the United States,
a lot of people know, our dollar is the real vote.
Our dollar is what votes for what is brought forth
to us. So if you're putting money into stuff that
props up the false matrix system and doesn't prop up
the people in your community. It doesn't prop up what

(36:22):
I would call real true capitalism, like small mom and
pop stores, you know, things like that. Then you need
to start shifting and gravitating towards that. Again, these are
the solutions. The solutions are not huge, you know, it's
all very tiny things. And here's the thing though, too, Chris,
is everything that you do in the small sense builds

(36:43):
into something massive over time.

Speaker 4 (36:46):
You know.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
It is like it's just like that one small change
that you make to your life. And I mean all
of the self help people talk about it. Shoot, I
even Jordan Peterson, all of those guys talk about it.
And you know, it's that one small change that you
that will set forth an effect that's going to cause
a greater scope of change. So this is what I mean, Like,

(37:07):
we have to get out of the conditioning that solutions
to our current situation are hyper complex. And that's the
number one thing that we have to overcome too, because again,
if our collective consciousness is what's manifesting the events and
this reality for this parasite class, we start to alter
our collective consciousness, it starts to combat that. So that's

(37:30):
the thing, you know, and I want people to know
that moving into a solution based mindset is not a
difficult thing to do. You don't have to jump through
thirty hoops of fire with your pitchfork, your torch and
your multav cocktail all the way to the state Capitol
building and start to start causing a riot and things
like that. No, this is going to be a siege,

(37:52):
not an ambush. Okay, And I actually borrow that quote
from somebody, but it is. It's going to be a siege,
not an ambush, guys. And this is the way we
have to treat it. We have to treat it as
a siege, and that's how the solution is going to
come forth.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
Something else I wanted to get your thoughts on is
the unnecessary anxiety that a lot of our conspiracy culture
is permeating right now. The theories that have come out
in the past few years are really no different than

(38:27):
what we've heard in decades before from pioneers looking into
the nature of reality and what is going on behind
the scenes. But the researchers of the past did their work.
They did their homework. They actually dove deep into books
and documentation and got out there and did some hard

(38:49):
work to try and find the truth. Now we have
the TikTok conspiracy researcher, who, as I always say, is
just regurgitating another TikTok conspiracy researcher that they just saw
very poorly. And this is mainly the information that is
circulating about what is going on beneath the surface as

(39:14):
far as government corruption, UFOs, spirituality, and it is a
bunch of nonsense. There's so many contradictions between the conspiracies
coming out. We don't know if it's going to be
an apocalypse or an AI takeover or an apocalyptic AI takeover,

(39:35):
or if the Aliens are gonna invade, or if Atlas
is coming, or if the Earth is flat, or if
it's all just fake and gay. Who knows. There's no
way we're ever gonna find out. And I think it's
just causing this community, the people who want to know
the truth, a lot of unnecessary anxiety looking in all

(39:57):
these crazy directions. I think we just we need to
go back to our roots, to real grassroots research and
reading books and finding documentation, stop looking at the surface
level nonsense, because we've already discovered that's really not gonna
get us anywhere. We have no new answers than we

(40:19):
did ten fifteen years ago. In fact, it seems like
we have less. So there are many people I know
right now who are doing wonderful research like I just mentioned,
and I think that there is a bit of a
revival of that, and that's very encouraging because this is
exactly what we need, but we do need less of

(40:40):
the TikTok conspiracy researcher that's doing nothing but throwing crazy
theories out there and making people insane.

Speaker 3 (40:50):
I completely agree with you, man, And the one thing
I'm gonna say is I'm going to bring up a
writer because he's writing this. He's like, all of these
people on TikTok are just taking conspiracies from like thirty
years ago and like freaking putting them in a video
and acting like they're new things that have just came out.
It's exactly what's happening, dude. It's one hundred percent. So

(41:10):
I agree with them on that, and honestly, man, and
this is what I'm gonna say, is really a shame
what the conspiracy community has turned into today. Because I
remember the conspiracy community before twenty twenty. I've been in
it that long and back then conspiracy theorists didn't deny
that there was an underlying spiritual nature to this existence

(41:31):
that needed to be acknowledged to be because of all And
that's the thing too. And I'm gonna borrow a quote.
I know you were just on her show. I'm gonna
borrow a quote from my friend Emily Moyer. The conspiracies
are true, but that's not the point here, you know,
And and what that is is every single conspiracy, every
single rabbit hole. I even saw this medium on how
if you consistently focus on rabbit holes, there's gonna be

(41:54):
no end, all right, there's gonna be no end to
the rabbit holes. And that's because every single conspiracy and
every single rabbit hole is shown you that there's an
underlying spiritual nature to this existence. This is what needs
to be acknowledged, and this is what needs to be
focused on. Why would every conspiracy and rabbit hole have
esoteric and occult ties. That's that's no coincidence, dude, every

(42:15):
single one has esoteric and occult ties.

Speaker 4 (42:18):
Why would that be?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
You know, it'd be different if it was just a couple,
but it's quite literally every single one.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
So at that point we have to kind of.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Take a look at it, and we need to go, hmm,
why are these people so obsessed with the esoteric and
the occult? What is up with the parasite class being
obsessed with this? And then that was my thing how
I did it back in the day, And then I
came to realize, like, hey, there's there's something spiritual going
on here, and it is the conspiracy community right now
is and I hate to say it is doing a

(42:44):
disservice to what they're actually trying to do. And I
know not a lot of them completely realize.

Speaker 4 (42:50):
That at this point, but it is. It's it's made us.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Look even worse the people who are out here kind
of going through the experience. I mean, of course, you know,
we know people who are doing amazing research, who are
actually you know, bringing forth like legitimate stuff that you know,
that that has tons of hours of work put into it,
and it's so thorough and so on point. And it's like,

(43:14):
I don't I don't want.

Speaker 5 (43:16):
These shithead conspiracy TikTokers to destroy that for the people
who are actually doing the work too, you know, and
to like discredit the people who are actually going through.

Speaker 4 (43:26):
So I agree with you, man, I do think we
need to bring it back. We need to.

Speaker 3 (43:29):
Quit jumping the gun. We need to quit making assumptions.
And I'm not even gonna lie I used to do
it back in the day, but now now again, even
what happened with Charlie Kirk, you know, I didn't jump
the gun. I didn't make assumptions. All I tried to do.

Speaker 4 (43:43):
Is point people's anger in the right place.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
Do not be anger at your fellow neighbor, be angry
at the media, the US government, the intelligence agencies who
have put forth this division into our society and have
implemented it on a very deep level. So like this
is what we need to start kind of doing, is
we need to stop jumping the gun.

Speaker 4 (44:02):
We need to stop. I mean, I don't know if
you saw it back.

Speaker 3 (44:05):
In twenty twenty four, there is that TikTok going on
with the new EMS signal. It's going to activate the
nanobots that we're in the vaccine and it's going to
turn everybody into like flesh eating, raving zombies. And dude,
they had like freaking I want to say, hundreds of
thousands of people who are actually believing this, and it
is it's like TikTok has become almost like the mainstream

(44:28):
media for conspiracy theorists at this point, and you can't
you can't trust everything you see. And again I'll kind
of go back to what I said in the show,
what you experience is real, and yes, sometimes you can't
prove it, because you know when we're talking about subjective experience,
but just kiss you can't prove it doesn't mean it's

(44:49):
not real to you and what you experience.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
An example of these crazy ideas that bubble up out
of nowhere, I'm not going to mention any names, but
a mutual of ours is on Facebook claiming that the
experimental inoculations that many people opted in are causing a

(45:11):
sort of possession and are causing people to go crazy.
And this is very unsubstantiated in my perspective, quite dangerous
to claim this across the board. I do know quite
a few people who did opt in for the Jabbi
Jab and they're not insane zombies running around trying to
kill people, So that again is a bit ridiculous, and

(45:32):
we need to pump the breaks with some of these things.
Because this person is actually a pretty well known researcher, filmmaker,
person that is in the community and a lot of
people have a lot of respect for him, and for
him to come out and claim things like that, I
think can be a bit dangerous for people in this community. So,

(45:54):
like you said, pumping the breaks may be a little
bit of a good idea with some of this stuff.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Oh, one hundred percent, man. And that's the thing. When
I come off with my theories, the number one thing
I say is I can't prove this, okay, but these
are just my thoughts and and and that's that's what
I think a lot of people, when they make these claims,
need to kind of start doing because number one, especially

(46:21):
like I know exactly what you're talking about.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
You know what, I'm not going to say it's not possible,
but we do need to preface it with this is
just a theory or exactly like you said, maybe this
is possible, but not this is the way it is.

Speaker 3 (46:36):
No, one hundred percent man, of course, Like and I
know what you're talking about, And when you are a
well respected member of the community like that, and you
know you are a filmmaker and a lot of people
have watched your stuff, you know you have to You're
you're looked at as the new media. Man, you have
to take a lot of care into what you say,
the message that you deliver. You have to take a

(46:58):
lot of care when it comes into that, man, because
people are going.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
To believe you, you.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
Know, especially when you're when you're in that position. And
I think that's that's number one of the things too,
Like you said, revival of the grassroots research, diving into things.
That's why I fuck around and find out, man, That's
why I dive into the spiritual concepts. I start doing
them because I'm like, I want to see what these
are about. And you know, more people need to start
doing that in my eyes, you know, start diving into it.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
But yeah, you know, this is the thing.

Speaker 3 (47:25):
We should start pumping the brakes on making extraordinary claims.
I'm going to hundred percent agree with that, because what
if that extraordinary claim turns out to not be true,
turns out to be debunked. You know, it turns out
you're wrong. You're kind of giving the rest of the
community a bad name.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
You know. That's the thing.

Speaker 3 (47:45):
You know, how they say one bad apple spoils the bunch,
That's how the general collective looks at people like us,
you know, one bad apple will put a put a
giant blanket over everybody else man and also two man.
The thing about a lot of people in these in
our community at this point in time, I hate to
say it, not everybody's truly in this. A lot of

(48:06):
people are in this for the wrong reasons. And you
have people like you and I and a lot of
people that we know who are our head, heart and hands,
are two hundred percent in this all the way.

Speaker 4 (48:15):
You know.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
We live it, we breathe it, you know, we sleep it,
we shit it, we do we do it all, you know.
And then you have people who are in this community
who are here for the likes. They're here for the engagement,
they're here for the virul you know. And that's kind
of what happened after twenty twenty. I noticed this influx
of you know, people getting into the conspiracy podcasting in

(48:36):
the conspiracy community, and that seems to be all that
they're doing.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
It's a fad for them.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
They saw people were turning to this after what happened
with twenty twenty, and how a lot of that came
out of the woodwork as being what it was. And
of course, you know, due to human nature and human psychology.
People are going to take advantage of it. And I'm
not saying some of this is an infiltration either. In
my opinion, I do believe there is an infiltrative aspect

(49:03):
to this because you have you know, the CIA Operation Chaos,
you have co Intel.

Speaker 4 (49:08):
Pro, you have Project Prosperity, which.

Speaker 3 (49:11):
Are all about infiltrating underground and counterculture movements to divert
and disengage and dissolve them. So I mean, as far
as the infiltrative aspect, I do think there's some of
that going on because we do have a little bit
of a track record for that, you know, you know,
we do, we have some kind of evidence that shows

(49:32):
this stuff goes on. But again, you know what I say,
I think it's half and half.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Man.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
We have the infiltration aspect of it, and then we
have human nature at its core. You know, of course,
people are going to exploit things. They're going to do
things for money and likes. So that that's kind of
what I think it truly is. Man is you know,
we have people who are jumping the gun. They're not
being very careful with their words, especially when they're in

(49:56):
a position that could be looked at as they are
the media. Now they are delivering a message to people,
and we have people who are in this community who
their hearts aren't truly in this man and it's giving
the rest of us a bad name. And then the
infiltration factor, which I do think is happening.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Something that does occur when high impact events present themselves
are strange synchronicities, strange predictive programming that comes out in films,
occult symbolism. Now, if you ask the conspiracy community as
a whole, they'll probably tell you it's the Illuminati. It

(50:34):
is a top down beer mid structure where they're intentionally
placing all of this symbolism specifically in certain movies, are
in certain events as a calling card or some sort.
I just don't think they're that sophisticated. I don't even
think that maybe possible. What I see is what many
would call synchronisticism, Possibly that these events have such an

(51:00):
energetic effect that it sends ripples through these other pieces
of entertainment or artwork, or history or our reality. In
some way, that makes more sense to me than the
Illuminati intentionally placing symbols here and there and knowing what's

(51:21):
going to happen in the future to such a degree
that they're going to put it in Back to the Future,
our Snake Eyes and all the films that seem to
have this predictive program aspect to it. I don't know
about that. There may be something more natural occurring with it,
something that is part of our reality. Some also believe

(51:44):
that it is part of an occult ritualistic understanding that
people at a very high level know how to manipulate
the etheric energy that present these strange things to our reality.
But I have no idea. I just think there's something

(52:05):
deeper to it. I don't think it's all human involvement.
But what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 3 (52:14):
Man, I'm gonna say this, I'm very much I lean
towards a lot of what you think. I have a
couple of things I want to add. So they did
just come out with this article, not saying it's true
or not, But what happens in the future can affect
events in the past. So that actually kind of you know,
maybe the predictive programming as people think it is happening

(52:36):
in the future, but somehow affecting the past. That's a
little theory that's not exactly what I think's going I
did think it was interesting though, could be a possibility.
But what I think is going on. What I think
is going on is this man. So there are archetypal symbols, right,
There are archetypal symbols that are very powerful energetically right.

(52:57):
And you know, I'm a big believer that symbol is
is the prime language of this existence. You know that
verbal and written language is secondary because when we look
at symbolism and how it works with the subconscious mind,
and how our subconscious mind is firing in all gears
when we view a symbol like that, that shows the
power of symbolism. Now, what I think could potentially be happening.

(53:19):
Like I said earlier in the show, the collective consciousness
manifests events. So what they do is they don't predictive
program the event. They lay what I would call an
energetic foundation for an event like that to happen.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
And that's that's kind of what I think is what's
going on.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
I mean, for instance, I know you're talking about the
nineteen ninety eight movie I forgot the name, but the dude,
Charlie Kirkland was shot on September tenth.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
Snake eyes. Yes, snake eyes.

Speaker 3 (53:48):
I've been seeing it pass around, you know, you know,
the feeds and stuff. So and a lot of people
are thinking that this was predicted back then. What I
think is happening is you're taking these very powerful, powerful
archetypal right, and you're implanting them into the collective consciousness
of humanity. And then what you have is reinforcement of

(54:09):
those symbols through other avenues of media. Of course, you
know a lot of people watched that movie. Say, guys,
I mean what we could say probably upwards in the
millions of people, maybe even over one hundred million people.
You know, we have a population of what like three
hundred and eighty million here in the United States, Okay,
And that archetypal energy was implanted into them, and of

(54:30):
course what it gets implanted into this gigantic group of people,
all right, is ultimately going to spread through the rest
of the collective.

Speaker 4 (54:37):
And then those people.

Speaker 3 (54:38):
Who watch movies, they probably watch the news, right, they
probably watch your daytime TV sitcoms and your daytime night
your nighttime TV sitcoms. Right, So then you have the
reinforcement of this energy, you know, this archetypeal these symbols
and this energy through the other forms of media. And
now what this does is it lays, in my eyes

(55:00):
down what I would call an energetic foundation for these
kind of events to manifest. Because you know, we're talking about,
you know, a revelation of the method and karmac retribution here.
You know, you're people can buy in with their free will,
even on a subconscious level. They don't even have to consciously,

(55:21):
you know, accept something. They can even on a subconscious level,
accept something that's happening to them, and through their free will,
they're helping build this energetic foundation. So I agree with you,
it's a lot of synchronisticism, man is what it is
is is laying It's not predicting the events ahead of time.

(55:42):
What they're doing is they're laying the groundwork for them
to put forth an event like this.

Speaker 4 (55:52):
Down the line.

Speaker 3 (55:53):
And because of how asleep and how we are subjected
to a lot of these this symbolism and these art
type of energies through every basically every avenue of media
that an a sleep person watches, it's just reinforcing them.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
From your perspective, does that mean that they know that
in the future, Charlie Kirk is going to be assassinated,
or some guy that is going to be named Charlie
Kirk is going to be assassinated as a high impact event,
or they are just planting a seed that something very

(56:28):
impactful is going to happen in the future based off
of that initial energetic insertion into the film.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
So what I think could be going on is it's
a planting of a seed. I think what they do
is they I don't know that. I'm not saying they
couldn't know the event. I mean, I'm down a I
don't know, to be honest, I mean, I'm down a
rabbit hole with a time paradox right now. And you know,
time is a funky thing. We're just gonna put it

(56:59):
that way. But what I do know they do is
they like to keep people in a state of mesmerized terror.
That I do know for sure. And of course there's
a lot of what I would say, there's symbolism and
energy for that, and a lot of these movies that
people watch, a lot of what they watch on the news,

(57:19):
a lot of you know, the media, the day time
TV shows, the nighttime TV shows, that a lot it's
all there. So essentially, what they want to do is
if you keep people in a state of mesmerized terror,
they use that frequency to put forth an event of
some kind that's going to I guess you could say

(57:42):
it's going to have an impact on the collective. It's
going to cause more fear, it's going to cause more anxiety,
things like that. I don't think it's a synchronized as
some people make it out to think.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
What I do feel is.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
That again, these individuals they understand the humans psyche and
the human consciousness at a very elite level. They probably
understand things that both you and I don't understand just
quite yet, you know. And so with that being said,
they at least in my eyes, will guide the energy

(58:17):
towards where they see it fit. As far as them
having like, you know, the I guess you could say
the fact that like thirty years ago, they're like this dude,
Charlie Kirk, he's going to be born in like one month,
and then and then thirty years down the line, we're
going to sacrifice them. We're going to put predictive programming
in this nineteen ninety eight movie. It's gonna fly over

(58:38):
everybody's heads, you know, or things like that. I don't
think it's that in depth, but I do think. What
I do think is there is a guiding and a
focus of this fear energy. Absolutely, And of course, you know,
love and fear are opposite sides of the polarity spectrum.
Love is a very powerful manifesto, it's a force, it's
a power. Fear is also very powerful force and a

(59:02):
manifesto as well, So that's where I think they take
advantage of it. Ultimately, it's fifty to fifty, though, dude,
it's up to us as well when it comes to this.

Speaker 1 (59:10):
It's very interesting. We seem to be at a very
important crossroads a society. Steven, thank you again for coming
on tonight. Before we go, any closing thoughts that you'd
like to leave the audience with.

Speaker 4 (59:25):
Well, other than it's all fake and gay.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
But with that point, guys, we have to start moving
into the solution mindset. That's really the only thing I
can say at this point. You know, people who watch
my show, they feel like, I beat this forstead. I
do it for a reason because it can't be sent enough.
You know, we have to start embodying what we've learned.
We have to start living through what we've learned in

(59:51):
our evolution, and we have to start breaking away from
this system, one attachment at a time, man, And this
is the only way that's going to solve this, because
this is going to continue to keep happening. At this
point it is it's going to continue to keep happening.
At least in my eyes. There's more things they're waiting
to do. Like you were saying, I don't know what

(01:00:12):
they're going to do with three high atlasts. It could
be a nothing burger, or they could break out the
Battlestar Galactica glitchy fucking UFOs. They're going to land on
the Earth and try to freak everybody out. But ultimately, man,
where it comes down to is we have to understand
we are being tested. We have to start moving forward
with a solution based mindset. We have to start acting

(01:00:33):
through those solutions. And number one, as you say, Chris,
compassion and empathy are going to get us through this.
And those are my closing.

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
Thoughts on Steven. Thank you so much again. We will
definitely be talking again in the future. Before I let
you go, remind the audience where they can find your.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
Work awesome and so you can find me of course,
on the Forbid of Knowledge Network with Chris and a
bunch of other grave podcasts, and please support the documentaries.
Is the getting of New Earth entertainment.

Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
Guys.

Speaker 3 (01:01:02):
We have content that is being made with a no
narrative SIOP free, propaganda free, and it's made with a
lot of hearts. So yes, definitely support both Chris and
Ryders documentaries and of course you can find me on
all major podcasts platforms under bgcasts, Rumbling YouTube, under bgcast, Facebook, Bgcast,

(01:01:22):
Instagram is at BG with two underscores. Then cast an X,
which I'm most active on, although I'm kind of done
with social media at this point, is at BG with
three underscores. Cast and again, thanks for having me on man.
This is great and you know, I look forward to
the next time we do this and hopefully this helps
a lot of people move find a way to jump
into that solution based mindset finding Man.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
Well, thank you again and until next time, everyone, have
an excellent evening. We'll talk again tomorrow.

Speaker 4 (01:01:50):
See y'all.

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