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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a clip from Raised by Giants. You can
access the entire episode now on our website and all
podcast platforms.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I'm looking forward to talking about this because this
is basically the basis of my new documentary, Psychic Agent,
The Real Life Stranger Things, which should be out within
two to three months on Amazon Prime and Apple TV plus.
Kind of what got me on this track was going
(00:31):
through all of the mk Ultra programs. Okay, so we
know that there were one hundred and forty nine subprojects
to mk Ultra, and there were several. Richard Helm of
the CIA, the director at the time, ordered that the
mk ultra documents to be destroyed. And the only reason
that we have any of the documentation on mk Ultra
(00:52):
was because around eight thousand pages we're found inside of
some financial documents that weren't destroyed by the CIA. But
there was reported that there was more subprojects of mk
Ultra than just the one hundred and forty nine that
we are privy to. Now a few of the subprojects
(01:13):
I found very interesting because four of them focused solely
on psychic abilities and parapsychology, hypnosis and what we would
later be called remote viewing. Now there was another subproject
that involved children. There's a few of them, actually, but
(01:35):
one of them in particular was Subproject one oh three
in nineteen fifty nine, which was called the Children's International
Summer Village, where all these kids were brought together to
be at a summer camp. The CIA was studying them
to see how they communicate with each other when they're
in you know, common groups, and it was also to
(01:57):
study young children who may be of interest to the agency. Now,
if you fast forward a little bit, there's this tape
that's been going around online that does something like you
should be hearing my voice in your right ear. Now.
This has been triggering a lot of people. They remember
(02:20):
hearing this in public school. They remember going through a
lot of these weird and strange tests in public school.
They would be taken out of class, taken to a
separate part of school that would be like a separate building.
(02:40):
Sometimes sometimes it was a different classroom, but a lot
of times it was just a completely separate building adjacent
from the school itself. They would be set down, they
would have they would do hearing tests, they would do
vision tests, they would do tests of with like blocks,
they would do wors test, they would do tests with cards,
(03:03):
like cards that would have a symbol on them. They
would be asking, oh, well, what's on what's going to
be the next thing on the card, which is a
lot of people to believe that this is like a
testing of you know, psychic abilities within the kids, right
test with ropes. They would be told to drink some
sort of substance, like a very liquidy substance. Some people
(03:25):
believe that it was a pink pepto bismal type drink.
Other people remember it being a yellow, thick pepto bismal
like drink. But they were like, I don't know, like
just in he's like, you know those little paper cups
that there's there's like look like shooters that they would
be that they would have to take. And this coincides
(03:47):
with like the drugging of kids, like nobody knows. And
that's the thing is within those tests, after they take
the substance, don't really remember anything else after that, so
it's very difficult to figure out exactly what was going on.
But a lot of people remember the testing going through
(04:10):
the testing strange testing. Some of it was like reading,
and this will leads some people to believe that it
was like ADHD testing and stuff like that, which that's
not out of the realm of possibility. But a lot
of these programs were called gifted programs. They were they
were called MGM. Which is really interesting because the entire
MGM show with the what was that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh, that's the network it's on, right, MGM plus, the Institute.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right MGM mentally Gifted Minds, the Institute on MGM plus,
which is.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let me ask you a question writer, those substances, whatever
those substances were, and we could probably just sit here
and try to break down the various possibilities of what
those kinds of tests would be. We have a listener
in the chat named Joe Ryder who said that they
remember those tests and that he had those tests done.
I don't remember anything like that personally for me, but
(05:05):
maybe I'm too young. But my question is the way
that you describe those peptibysmal like substances based on what
people are saying that they experienced. You know, there's a
lot of things, because we're dealing with kids, that it
could be a misremembering of something that could be inflated
as a story. Because of all the pop culture and
(05:27):
comics and movies and TV shows, but those things also
can be based on things like stranger things. Is so anyway,
the point is what those substances. Do you think that
maybe they could be some sort of ergot like substance,
hallucinatory psychedelic like substances, because they use those for adults
in these kinds of programs, and humans have used these
(05:48):
for thousands of years to induce what we would probably
call psychic type abilities and to speak with spirits. If
you give that children, that would absolutely enhance theoretically any
of those types of natural abilities already. That's my first thought.
What do you think of that? Or do you know
anything about that?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, it seems like some sort of hallucinogenic substance. And
they would also be asked to put on goggles like
three D goggles. What would the three D goggles be for?
It would be to change your perception while you're drugged,
to get you to see things that you normally wouldn't see.
And I didn't give an example of this when I
(06:27):
was really young. When I was growing up, I I
would see things in my room every night, like entities
would like come out of the walls. Now that might
sound crazy. Whatever people want to think, but I told
my parents about this. It was like every night I
see these entities. They come out of the walls and
surround me in my bed. Every night. My parents thought
(06:48):
that something was wrong with me. They took me to
the doctor. Okay. The doctor says that there wasn't anything
wrong with me, and he handed me this flash cart.
I don't know. It was probably as big as this
piece of notepod paper, okay, And it had these bulls
eyes on it and had a big bullseye, then a
(07:11):
small bulls eye, and then it was like four different
circles within circles, and he's like, can you make this
bullsye become three D? Can you make the bulls eye
pop up off of the card? I couldn't do it
at that time, and he was like, well, when you
can do it, come back and see me. And it
(07:32):
was like any it was like really fuzzy, like it
was almost like it was three D on the card already,
like if you were to take your three D glasses
off and watch a three D movie, how it's like
super blurry. That's what the card looked like. And as
the bulls eyes got bigger on the little flash card,
(07:53):
they got clearer. Okay, So I'm like putting two and
two together here, And if these people were forced to
put on some three D goggles and then they were,
you know, given some sort of substance, would that be
to trigger some sort of abilities? I mean, because we.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Know there are three three you say they're three D
goggles because usually that kind of stuff works with you know,
a movie that's that's rendered to be three D. But
obviously if you put them on, they don't. They don't
work when you walk outside, things don't. They're already three dimensional.
So what does that? What does that? What does three
D goggles mean?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Then for the people that can't see what they're supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Seeing, so maybe they're maybe they're not necessarily three D goggles,
but there's some sort of enhancing device to enhance the visions.
It almost sounds like you're giving someone as it's like
an acid trip, but then they're trying to enhance or
make the acid trip even more more real by putting
(08:57):
someone a device over over people's eyes.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right, So if you if you couldn't do something right,
it's just like with technology. You know, technology gives us
a leap to be able to talk to each other
while you're in Japan and I'm in the United States. Right,
we wouldn't be able to do that without technology. Well,
some people wouldn't be able to possibly unlock these psychic
(09:22):
abilities that they have within them without a little nudge,
without a little help, without a little technology, right, I mean,
and that's just pure theory I have, just based on
what happened to me and me remembering those bulls eyes
on that flash card that were like super blurry. But
(09:44):
there's several instances of that with people being drugged and
then experimented on, and it's shown a lot in the
Institute on MGM plus with children. But there's like the
Eames leaf Room. Have you ever heard of the Ames
leaf Room.
This is a clip from Raised by Giants. You can
access the entire episode now on our website and all
podcast platforms.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
And I'm looking forward to talking about this because this
is basically the basis of my new documentary, Psychic Agent,
The Real Life Stranger Things, which should be out within
two to three months on Amazon Prime and Apple TV plus.
Kind of what got me on this track was going
(00:31):
through all of the mk Ultra programs. Okay, so we
know that there were one hundred and forty nine subprojects
to mk Ultra, and there were several. Richard Helm of
the CIA, the director at the time, ordered that the
mk ultra documents to be destroyed. And the only reason
that we have any of the documentation on mk Ultra
(00:52):
was because around eight thousand pages we're found inside of
some financial documents that weren't destroyed by the CIA. But
there was reported that there was more subprojects of mk
Ultra than just the one hundred and forty nine that
we are privy to. Now a few of the subprojects
(01:13):
I found very interesting because four of them focused solely
on psychic abilities and parapsychology, hypnosis and what we would
later be called remote viewing. Now there was another subproject
that involved children. There's a few of them, actually, but
(01:35):
one of them in particular was Subproject one oh three
in nineteen fifty nine, which was called the Children's International
Summer Village, where all these kids were brought together to
be at a summer camp. The CIA was studying them
to see how they communicate with each other when they're
in you know, common groups, and it was also to
(01:57):
study young children who may be of interest to the agency. Now,
if you fast forward a little bit, there's this tape
that's been going around online that does something like you
should be hearing my voice in your right ear. Now.
This has been triggering a lot of people. They remember
(02:20):
hearing this in public school. They remember going through a
lot of these weird and strange tests in public school.
They would be taken out of class, taken to a
separate part of school that would be like a separate building.
(02:40):
Sometimes sometimes it was a different classroom, but a lot
of times it was just a completely separate building adjacent
from the school itself. They would be set down, they
would have they would do hearing tests, they would do
vision tests, they would do tests of with like blocks,
they would do wors test, they would do tests with cards,
(03:03):
like cards that would have a symbol on them. They
would be asking, oh, well, what's on what's going to
be the next thing on the card, which is a
lot of people to believe that this is like a
testing of you know, psychic abilities within the kids, right
test with ropes. They would be told to drink some
sort of substance, like a very liquidy substance. Some people
(03:25):
believe that it was a pink pepto bismal type drink.
Other people remember it being a yellow, thick pepto bismal
like drink. But they were like, I don't know, like
just in he's like, you know those little paper cups
that there's there's like look like shooters that they would
be that they would have to take. And this coincides
(03:47):
with like the drugging of kids, like nobody knows. And
that's the thing is within those tests, after they take
the substance, don't really remember anything else after that, so
it's very difficult to figure out exactly what was going on.
But a lot of people remember the testing going through
(04:10):
the testing strange testing. Some of it was like reading,
and this will leads some people to believe that it
was like ADHD testing and stuff like that, which that's
not out of the realm of possibility. But a lot
of these programs were called gifted programs. They were they
were called MGM. Which is really interesting because the entire
MGM show with the what was that?
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Oh, that's the network it's on, right, MGM plus, the Institute.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Right MGM mentally Gifted Minds, the Institute on MGM plus,
which is.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Let me ask you a question writer, those substances, whatever
those substances were, and we could probably just sit here
and try to break down the various possibilities of what
those kinds of tests would be. We have a listener
in the chat named Joe Ryder who said that they
remember those tests and that he had those tests done.
I don't remember anything like that personally for me, but
(05:05):
maybe I'm too young. But my question is the way
that you describe those peptibysmal like substances based on what
people are saying that they experienced. You know, there's a
lot of things, because we're dealing with kids, that it
could be a misremembering of something that could be inflated
as a story. Because of all the pop culture and
(05:27):
comics and movies and TV shows, but those things also
can be based on things like stranger things. Is so anyway,
the point is what those substances. Do you think that
maybe they could be some sort of ergot like substance,
hallucinatory psychedelic like substances, because they use those for adults
in these kinds of programs, and humans have used these
(05:48):
for thousands of years to induce what we would probably
call psychic type abilities and to speak with spirits. If
you give that children, that would absolutely enhance theoretically any
of those types of natural abilities already. That's my first thought.
What do you think of that? Or do you know
anything about that?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
Yes, it seems like some sort of hallucinogenic substance. And
they would also be asked to put on goggles like
three D goggles. What would the three D goggles be for?
It would be to change your perception while you're drugged,
to get you to see things that you normally wouldn't see.
And I didn't give an example of this when I
(06:27):
was really young. When I was growing up, I I
would see things in my room every night, like entities
would like come out of the walls. Now that might
sound crazy. Whatever people want to think, but I told
my parents about this. It was like every night I
see these entities. They come out of the walls and
surround me in my bed. Every night. My parents thought
(06:48):
that something was wrong with me. They took me to
the doctor. Okay. The doctor says that there wasn't anything
wrong with me, and he handed me this flash cart.
I don't know. It was probably as big as this
piece of notepod paper, okay, And it had these bulls
eyes on it and had a big bullseye, then a
(07:11):
small bulls eye, and then it was like four different
circles within circles, and he's like, can you make this
bullsye become three D? Can you make the bulls eye
pop up off of the card? I couldn't do it
at that time, and he was like, well, when you
can do it, come back and see me. And it
(07:32):
was like any it was like really fuzzy, like it
was almost like it was three D on the card already,
like if you were to take your three D glasses
off and watch a three D movie, how it's like
super blurry. That's what the card looked like. And as
the bulls eyes got bigger on the little flash card,
(07:53):
they got clearer. Okay, So I'm like putting two and
two together here, And if these people were forced to
put on some three D goggles and then they were,
you know, given some sort of substance, would that be
to trigger some sort of abilities? I mean, because we.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
Know there are three three you say they're three D
goggles because usually that kind of stuff works with you know,
a movie that's that's rendered to be three D. But
obviously if you put them on, they don't. They don't
work when you walk outside, things don't. They're already three dimensional.
So what does that? What does that? What does three
D goggles mean?
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Then for the people that can't see what they're supposed
to be.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Seeing, so maybe they're maybe they're not necessarily three D goggles,
but there's some sort of enhancing device to enhance the visions.
It almost sounds like you're giving someone as it's like
an acid trip, but then they're trying to enhance or
make the acid trip even more more real by putting
(08:57):
someone a device over over people's eyes.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Right, So if you if you couldn't do something right,
it's just like with technology. You know, technology gives us
a leap to be able to talk to each other
while you're in Japan and I'm in the United States. Right,
we wouldn't be able to do that without technology. Well,
some people wouldn't be able to possibly unlock these psychic
(09:22):
abilities that they have within them without a little nudge,
without a little help, without a little technology, right, I mean,
and that's just pure theory I have, just based on
what happened to me and me remembering those bulls eyes
on that flash card that were like super blurry. But
(09:44):
there's several instances of that with people being drugged and
then experimented on, and it's shown a lot in the
Institute on MGM plus with children. But there's like the
Eames leaf Room. Have you ever heard of the Ames
leaf Room.
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