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Speaker 1 (00:02):
This is a clip from Raised by Giants.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You can access the entire episode now on our website
and all podcast platforms.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I feel like we're in a huge regurgitation right now,
not only like within the community. Me and she have
talked about this several times, how like everything's kind of regurgitated,
but it seems like, just like collectively, we're in like
a giant regurgitation when it comes to political things, and
(00:32):
I don't want to get too political, because I'm not
a political show, but it's just interesting when you see
things repeat so quickly and so fast, and it's just like,
you know, I'm just waiting for the murder hornets. I
want to see the murder hornets make a comeback. We
need a new wave of murder hornets and everything will
(00:53):
be complete, The cycle will completely be complete. But it
really feels like we're just getting a regurgitation from twenty
sixteen and a regurgitation from twenty twenty, and it's culminating
all into one, and it's just coming together at this time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's like an amalgamation of twenty sixteen and twenty twenty,
is what it kind of is the way I've been
putting it for a long time is like twenty sixteen
was really meant to make us see how absurd that was,
and that didn't really work. So we got twenty twenty
and that didn't really work. So what we're getting this time,
you know, an amalgamation and everything's coming back. I mean,
(01:31):
I even I remember when it was Hillary running and
everyone using the Simpsons episode as a prediction that she
was going to win, and then the day that Kamala
took over, that came back again. You know, the Internet
has shortened everyone's memory dramatically, and they don't even really
most people remember the fact that they've been sharing these
(01:54):
things kind of on a four year cycle every four years,
and there's two sections to it. There's the electioneer cycle
and then there's the between the electioneer cycle, and but
it's like this this never ending four year pattern. And
even from the world that I came from, like the whistleblowers,
they do the same thing where it's like every four years,
they're kind of reinventing themselves, going back on a new circuit,
(02:15):
doing a whole new version of what they were doing.
And our community does that a lot now. Now, the
alternative community at large does that, Like when I say that.
I mean, like the Joe Rogans and everybody else, like
it's they're all in on it too. But that's exactly
what it's like. It's like we've run out of cards,
(02:36):
so we shuffled the deck and started over again.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, it seems like I mean, even with things that
we don't really even care about, you know, like like
the Olympics. Like I mean, some people care about the Olympics.
Some people like the Olympics. I mean, it is what
it is. Some people like sports, and that's one, okay, right,
But it's like this mixing of the mainstream media and
the alternative community, and even for the people that claim
(03:04):
not to care about it, you know, but the it
gets pushed in their face. Right. And I'm using the
Olympics as an example, with all the conspiracies and the
symbolism of the opening ceremony and like all that, you know,
and I feel like it's like a reminder for people
that don't care about it or don't watch it, like, oh, hey,
(03:27):
the Olympics are on, when I wouldn't have known either way, right,
because I legitimately do not care about the Olympics, right,
And probably a lot of people wouldn't have known. So
they put this out into the community. They get everyone
talking about this, so it's like, oh, hey, guys, you know,
(03:47):
we didn't do any advertisement for the Olympics this year.
Not a lot of people know about it. Probably not
a lot of people are even interested in it. They're
more worried about things that actually matter within their lives.
Here's the right. It seems like at this point they're
just making fun of people. They're just making fun of
us and making fun of the community and trolling us
(04:10):
like super hard. And this one with the you know,
the biological supposed biological man, you know, in the in
the woman's boxing category that the other the world championship
woman boxer like just had to stop the fight like
forty seven seconds in, and they were saying it was
because she's a biological man. She wasn't a biological man,
(04:33):
she's a biological female. But they put biological that she's
just boosted up on a bunch of testosterone and like
weird hormone things, right, But they put biological male fighting
you know, female and boxing match to promote outrage and
it works all the time. And they do this stuff
(04:54):
to just make fun of us. At this point, you know,
grab your attention, promote outrage, and it's wild when you
take a step back and look at it for what
it is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I said that on a show a couple of weeks ago,
that all of us, it doesn't matter what your political
views are, it doesn't matter what your religious views are.
Most of us are being trolled everywhere you look. Social media,
mainstream media, alternative media. We're all being trolled pretty hardcore.
And I think that the evidence and the proof of
(05:27):
that is very evident with the Olympics. I mean, I
did a whole symbolic analysis on one of my shows,
The Secret Teachings. I was also on a handful of
other shows to talk about it. My views are completely
different than anything I've heard from either side, which is
a lot of just regurgitating. As soon as one person said, oh,
it's the horse of the Apocalypse, everybody went to Bible
(05:48):
Gateway and copy and pasted revelations and put it online.
And I said, now, that's not the horse of revelation.
That's Sequana, that's the goddess, that's the moon. That's something
totally different. But the thing that got me was this.
You know, obviously this exaggerated kind of reaction to the imagery,
which I mean, it was intended. According to the guy
that put it together, his name is Holly, it was
(06:10):
intended to mock Christ. And the girl that played Jesus,
she said her intention was to mock Christ, that both
of them were gay Jews, which is also interesting because
the Muslims came to the defense of Christians, but then
the Christians also hate the Muslims, even though the Muslims
defended the Christians, and it was the Jews openly who said,
we don't like Jesus. We're going to mock him at
the Olympics. But regardless of that, Christians get upset and
(06:32):
I'm not going to watch the Olympics. Okay, But you
just provided them with billions of dollars probably a free
like free advertising globally like now until the thing's over
and then into the future, because you're going to be
talking about this for years. Free advertising for NBC, free
advertising for the city of Paris, free advertising for the
Olympics in general, and all the corporations that sponsor them
(06:54):
and put money into them. It's like fake out It's
like real but fake outrage. You know, it's actually I
think it's like when you have those boycotts a Budweiser
or Target, people ask me, are you boycotting Budweiser. It's like,
I don't drink alcohol, so you're not boycotting. Well, I
don't need the boycott because I don't drink it in
the first place, right, so I'm not boycotting. So if
(07:15):
I'm not boycotting, that must mean I'm not. I don't care.
It's like, well, I already don't support it, so i'm not.
I can't boycott them. You see what I'm saying. The
same thing with Target. All the outrage over Target, and
I get it Target, but Target doesn't care about gay
people any more than they care about their employees. I
used to work at Target. Target doesn't care. It's all
just pretending like they care to get people to give
(07:37):
them the stamp of approval. Socially, it's the same kind
of thing with liberals. They go upset about things and
want things canceled. Conservatives want things canceled too. I mean,
it was very vile the way that people reacted to
the Trump assassination attempt to say too bad they didn't
get him. But at the same time, like people were
going to different businesses and harassing people and saying we're
going to get you fired. It's the same exact thing
(07:59):
that the liberals do. I shouldn't say liberals, the Democrats do.
They both sides are being trolled.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And yeah, I agree with that, and I feel like
I narrowly escaped the Trump assassination stuff, was working on
the documentary, so I.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Didn't burned your head right at the last minute.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, turned it just went right past me. But that's
really what it seems like, is that it's a that
it's a plan to demoralize us, to make us not
trust our friends, not trust our family, desensitize us. And
(08:42):
that's really what it's been used for. And it's been
like a decade's long run to make this merging of
the communities. That's what it feels like to me. That's
what it seems like to me, Shane, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, that's it, right. So what we've always been talking
about what they've done with our community and the bigger
alternative community is now it's at a point where it
doesn't matter what you believe. You can find someone else
who's written something official about that. At this point, right
where you can find a website that maybe appears credible
enough to say, see this person said it too, or
(09:22):
something like that. It's I heard Shane Cashman, a speaker
talking about it recently, called it a reality buffet. Whatever
you want to be real can be real now. And
that's exactly what I've been saying is coming. Is like
they've taught us that perception is reality, as soon we
will have the technology to make that true. And now
we're at that point where nobody knows what to believe,
(09:43):
to the point where they don't even trust their own eyes.
And that's the argument I keep getting in people, is like,
I'm sorry, but I have to trust what's right in
front of me, not your interpretation of it, because your
interpretation of it
This is a clip from Raised by Giants.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
You can access the entire episode now on our website
and all podcast platforms.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I feel like we're in a huge regurgitation right now,
not only like within the community. Me and she have
talked about this several times, how like everything's kind of regurgitated,
but it seems like, just like collectively, we're in like
a giant regurgitation when it comes to political things, and
(00:32):
I don't want to get too political, because I'm not
a political show, but it's just interesting when you see
things repeat so quickly and so fast, and it's just like,
you know, I'm just waiting for the murder hornets. I
want to see the murder hornets make a comeback. We
need a new wave of murder hornets and everything will
(00:53):
be complete, The cycle will completely be complete. But it
really feels like we're just getting a regurgitation from twenty
sixteen and a regurgitation from twenty twenty, and it's culminating
all into one, and it's just coming together at this time.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
It's like an amalgamation of twenty sixteen and twenty twenty,
is what it kind of is the way I've been
putting it for a long time is like twenty sixteen
was really meant to make us see how absurd that was,
and that didn't really work. So we got twenty twenty
and that didn't really work. So what we're getting this time,
you know, an amalgamation and everything's coming back. I mean,
(01:31):
I even I remember when it was Hillary running and
everyone using the Simpsons episode as a prediction that she
was going to win, and then the day that Kamala
took over, that came back again. You know, the Internet
has shortened everyone's memory dramatically, and they don't even really
most people remember the fact that they've been sharing these
(01:54):
things kind of on a four year cycle every four years,
and there's two sections to it. There's the electioneer cycle
and then there's the between the electioneer cycle, and but
it's like this this never ending four year pattern. And
even from the world that I came from, like the whistleblowers,
they do the same thing where it's like every four years,
they're kind of reinventing themselves, going back on a new circuit,
(02:15):
doing a whole new version of what they were doing.
And our community does that a lot now. Now, the
alternative community at large does that, Like when I say that.
I mean, like the Joe Rogans and everybody else, like
it's they're all in on it too. But that's exactly
what it's like. It's like we've run out of cards,
(02:36):
so we shuffled the deck and started over again.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Yeah, it seems like I mean, even with things that
we don't really even care about, you know, like like
the Olympics. Like I mean, some people care about the Olympics.
Some people like the Olympics. I mean, it is what
it is. Some people like sports, and that's one, okay, right,
But it's like this mixing of the mainstream media and
the alternative community, and even for the people that claim
(03:04):
not to care about it, you know, but the it
gets pushed in their face. Right. And I'm using the
Olympics as an example, with all the conspiracies and the
symbolism of the opening ceremony and like all that, you know,
and I feel like it's like a reminder for people
that don't care about it or don't watch it, like, oh, hey,
(03:27):
the Olympics are on, when I wouldn't have known either way, right,
because I legitimately do not care about the Olympics, right,
And probably a lot of people wouldn't have known. So
they put this out into the community. They get everyone
talking about this, so it's like, oh, hey, guys, you know,
(03:47):
we didn't do any advertisement for the Olympics this year.
Not a lot of people know about it. Probably not
a lot of people are even interested in it. They're
more worried about things that actually matter within their lives.
Here's the right. It seems like at this point they're
just making fun of people. They're just making fun of
us and making fun of the community and trolling us
(04:10):
like super hard. And this one with the you know,
the biological supposed biological man, you know, in the in
the woman's boxing category that the other the world championship
woman boxer like just had to stop the fight like
forty seven seconds in, and they were saying it was
because she's a biological man. She wasn't a biological man,
(04:33):
she's a biological female. But they put biological that she's
just boosted up on a bunch of testosterone and like
weird hormone things, right, But they put biological male fighting
you know, female and boxing match to promote outrage and
it works all the time. And they do this stuff
(04:54):
to just make fun of us. At this point, you know,
grab your attention, promote outrage, and it's wild when you
take a step back and look at it for what
it is.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
I said that on a show a couple of weeks ago,
that all of us, it doesn't matter what your political
views are, it doesn't matter what your religious views are.
Most of us are being trolled everywhere you look. Social media,
mainstream media, alternative media. We're all being trolled pretty hardcore.
And I think that the evidence and the proof of
(05:27):
that is very evident with the Olympics. I mean, I
did a whole symbolic analysis on one of my shows,
The Secret Teachings. I was also on a handful of
other shows to talk about it. My views are completely
different than anything I've heard from either side, which is
a lot of just regurgitating. As soon as one person said, oh,
it's the horse of the Apocalypse, everybody went to Bible
(05:48):
Gateway and copy and pasted revelations and put it online.
And I said, now, that's not the horse of revelation.
That's Sequana, that's the goddess, that's the moon. That's something
totally different. But the thing that got me was this.
You know, obviously this exaggerated kind of reaction to the imagery,
which I mean, it was intended. According to the guy
that put it together, his name is Holly, it was
(06:10):
intended to mock Christ. And the girl that played Jesus,
she said her intention was to mock Christ, that both
of them were gay Jews, which is also interesting because
the Muslims came to the defense of Christians, but then
the Christians also hate the Muslims, even though the Muslims
defended the Christians, and it was the Jews openly who said,
we don't like Jesus. We're going to mock him at
the Olympics. But regardless of that, Christians get upset and
(06:32):
I'm not going to watch the Olympics. Okay, But you
just provided them with billions of dollars probably a free
like free advertising globally like now until the thing's over
and then into the future, because you're going to be
talking about this for years. Free advertising for NBC, free
advertising for the city of Paris, free advertising for the
Olympics in general, and all the corporations that sponsor them
(06:54):
and put money into them. It's like fake out It's
like real but fake outrage. You know, it's actually I
think it's like when you have those boycotts a Budweiser
or Target, people ask me, are you boycotting Budweiser. It's like,
I don't drink alcohol, so you're not boycotting. Well, I
don't need the boycott because I don't drink it in
the first place, right, so I'm not boycotting. So if
(07:15):
I'm not boycotting, that must mean I'm not. I don't care.
It's like, well, I already don't support it, so i'm not.
I can't boycott them. You see what I'm saying. The
same thing with Target. All the outrage over Target, and
I get it Target, but Target doesn't care about gay
people any more than they care about their employees. I
used to work at Target. Target doesn't care. It's all
just pretending like they care to get people to give
(07:37):
them the stamp of approval. Socially, it's the same kind
of thing with liberals. They go upset about things and
want things canceled. Conservatives want things canceled too. I mean,
it was very vile the way that people reacted to
the Trump assassination attempt to say too bad they didn't
get him. But at the same time, like people were
going to different businesses and harassing people and saying we're
going to get you fired. It's the same exact thing
(07:59):
that the liberals do. I shouldn't say liberals, the Democrats do.
They both sides are being trolled.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
And yeah, I agree with that, and I feel like
I narrowly escaped the Trump assassination stuff, was working on
the documentary, so I.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Didn't burned your head right at the last minute.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, turned it just went right past me. But that's
really what it seems like, is that it's a that
it's a plan to demoralize us, to make us not
trust our friends, not trust our family, desensitize us. And
(08:42):
that's really what it's been used for. And it's been
like a decade's long run to make this merging of
the communities. That's what it feels like to me. That's
what it seems like to me, Shane, what do you
think of that?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Well, that's it, right. So what we've always been talking
about what they've done with our community and the bigger
alternative community is now it's at a point where it
doesn't matter what you believe. You can find someone else
who's written something official about that. At this point, right
where you can find a website that maybe appears credible
enough to say, see this person said it too, or
(09:22):
something like that. It's I heard Shane Cashman, a speaker
talking about it recently, called it a reality buffet. Whatever
you want to be real can be real now. And
that's exactly what I've been saying is coming. Is like
they've taught us that perception is reality, as soon we
will have the technology to make that true. And now
we're at that point where nobody knows what to believe,
(09:43):
to the point where they don't even trust their own eyes.
And that's the argument I keep getting in people, is like,
I'm sorry, but I have to trust what's right in
front of me, not your interpretation of it, because your
interpretation of it
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