Rise & Fall of a Frankist Monster, Epstein & the History of Parasitic Zionist Control | Leo Zagami - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on? It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew.
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or you'd like to be a guest, email me Forbidden
Knowledge News at gmail dot com. Today, I want to
welcome back to the show Leo Zagami. He walked out
from what he perceived as the criminal side of the
New World Order or Illuminati, and now exposes the dark
side of these shadowy factions. He is an author of
several books. Leo, welcome back.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
How you doing.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
Always a pleasure to be with your show, and have
you been doing a lot of thing since the last
time we spoke, So I'm glad yeah, creating Gus I'm
a great document that is along the way with your show.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, thank you so much, and it is wonderful to
have you back. It has been a while. Really looking
forward to getting into your new book, The Rise and
Fall of a Francis Monster, exposing Jeffrey Epstein in the
most powerful Jewish sect in the world world. This is
such a huge topic right now, but as far as
the information we have access to about the status and

(02:07):
progress and real history of this man, we don't get much.
There seems to be a lot of gaslighting, demoralization, misinformation.
So I'm really looking forward to getting deeper insights into
not only what's been unfolding behind the scenes, but who
this man really was. Before we get into this, though,

(02:29):
remind the audience just a little about yourself and let
them know how they can find more about you.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
That they can find more about me on Liozegami dot com.
I'm an author, investigative journalist with the pastor so within
the realm of secret societies that we can commonly refer
to as the Illuminati and freemasony. So you can find,
like I said, more about that. It might be on
my website Wonderful.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Tell us a little bit about what brought you to
write this book and what you mainly focused on.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, I thought that there was really a missing link
nobody was talking about. I mean, there has been thousands
of articles written about Jeffrey Epstein, about his milieu of people.
There has been, of course documentaries, and some of them,
you know, might bring also to light some interesting subjects.

(03:27):
But I wanted to really point on something that nobody
has discussed, the ancestral roots of Jeffrey Epstein and his milieu.
The background from a political, of course, point of view,
is typical of the power players of this age. But

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when it comes to the anthropological religious sectarian that, like
I said, has been not well discussed at all. And
so I published this book book and I'm glad that
the readers are finding it interesting because it came to
become number one in history of Judaism also in other

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categories like espionage, biographies and so on. And like I said,
I think the main thing that the readers find interesting
is to analyze what happened in the light of a
past which has been hidden for most of this time.

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We have had some sporadic references to the Sabbatian Frankist
as a sector within Judaism, but very few historians have
really published any material of relevance about it. I think
show them as an historian and also a well known

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figure in the history of kabal has been one of
the few people now today have maybe the occasional academic
who likes to dwell into the subject, but it's very
rare that you find publications because it's in the interest
of certain rabbinical schools and certain branches of Judaism to

(05:17):
really keep the truth about the Sabbatian Frankists from coming
to light.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Excellent, and like you were saying, you go very deep
into even the Jewish folklore, the history and roots of
Jewish secularism. You even go back to the story of
the golm tell us a little bit about the origins
of these groups. Like you mentioned, the Sabbatine Frankists and

(05:44):
what you focused on about the history.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Yeah, I mean for those who don't know who the
Sabadian Frankist are in a nutshell. Shabbataiseab was this Jewish
figure who gained a lot of attention in the seven
tventeenth century, declaring himself the Messiah and really receiving support
for a time by more than half of the Jewish

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population living in Europe. It became sectarian when he eventually
was forced to convert to Islam, and so did his
most close disciples and followers at that point, creating what
has been known in the history of the Ottoman Empires.
The Dome made this crypto Jewish sector, which continued to

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practice the Sabbatian rituals in secret, one instead portrayed themselves
as Maslim outwards. This crypto Jewish modality was already known
in the Jewish War since the time of the Spanish
Inquisition in the very Peninsula, when they pairs the Ny

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Peninsula of both the Jewish as well as the Moorish presence,
and they forced everybody to convert to the cat fate.
And so at that time we have the bed of
what are known as the conversus or the Maranos. The
conversers are the more genuine converts to Christianity, the Maranos
instead the pigs, the ones that were actually continuing in

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secret the too practice Judaism. And it was actually wein
the Maranos, which I described in my book, has a
link which is un thought of with the Puritans in England,
with Oliver Cromwell and the people around him. Oliver Cromwell,

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for those who don't know, it was the guy who
for a brief time created the Republic and what is
now the United Kingdom. Once again, it didn't last that wrong,
to tell you the truth, but it was important historically,
the Oliver Cromwell episode because thanks to the people close

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to him who were very much entrenched in this Jewish
mysticism and Messianic legacy that came from it, that gave
the very roots of what today we of course acknowledge
as a Zionism. But from that moment onwards, there is
also a close link with Sabbataisa because Mordeguise the Father

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was working for these British Puritans in Ismir Turkey, and
so he brought inside this household the ideas that were
propagated by a guy called Menasse ben Israel, the ambassador
of the Jews, who eventually got Oliver Cromwell to get

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the Jews, who had been kicked out of England for
several hundred years from the whole British Isles back to
the British Isles. So that was an important development, but
that was only the first stage, because the plan was
always to bring them back there and then back to Israel.
It of course took several hundred years to break down

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the Ottoman Empire. But we must say that, like I
described in my book, the Ottoman Empire faced extinction, especially
at the hand of the Domain and the Masonic Lodge
is connected to them from that place called the Saloniki,
which nowadays is part of Greece, but at the time
it was part of the Ottoman Empire and was one

(09:26):
of the most important ports in Jewish communities. Now. SABBATAISEEVI,
of course died and then left his legacy to another
guy who claimed to be his incarnation, that was Barakruso.
Barrakruso didn't live a long life. In fact, it's very
rarely mentioned, and we talk always about Sabbatian Frankis Maradan,

(09:50):
Sabbatim Russo Frankis because he was still retaining most of
the beliefs of Sabbataise without adding anything new. Jago frank
himself was actually born in what today we call Ukraine
and close to Poland, and he was from a Sabbatian

(10:13):
family who was forced to abandon those areas after his
uncle has a rised attention with spreading some Sabbatian publications
that were deem dangerous by the rabbinic communities. That then
will work in tandem with the inquisition. And of course

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the Catholic inquisition was still, let's say, alive and kicking,
even if not as strong as it was. But then
we have also other forms of inquisitions in the Protestant
churches and the rabbinical course work often connected with them.

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There was a book, in particular, a book that not
many people know about, because this is the first time,
really that you can find in a book of almost
were under pages not only summarized the history of Sabbatian Frankis,
but also of their beliefs, like for example, the Babo

(11:15):
Elahin that was this book attributed to a guy, a
rabbi who then became involved in a controversy. Rabbi that
was also then linked to Jacob Frank family wise and
to Moses Doubrusk, who became also another important figure in

(11:39):
the creation of the Asiatic bread and also a member
of the Order of the Luminadio aadam y shaped. So
the spreading of the teachings of shabbataiab and then Jack
of Frank became also known outside of the Jewish war
the thanks to these Masonic lodgists and Illuminati logists. But

(12:00):
before that, Jacko Frank distanced himself from the traditional Islamic
context of the Ottoman Empire and brought back instead a
different form of Sabbatianism that at that point became Frankism.
So Sabbatian Frankism the merger of this idea of also

(12:22):
including elements of the Catholic faith the Trinity. Initially it
was a guy called Nemea Ayun who was a Bosnian
Kabalist in to Sabbatianism, who was lived in Sarajevo, who
back then, by the way, it was part of the

(12:44):
Ottoman Empire. Because these things need to be understood that
the borders were very different from today's borders, and the
Ottoman Empire was extremely influential. So he had received a
traditional Talmudic education, but then he went on to become
a very important figure. He went to Palestine, he went

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to Egypt, and then he appeared in mRNA, which is
today called Ismir. Ismir is a very important location because
of course abat isab He started preaching there. And when
this guy arrived there who was very much entrenched with

(13:30):
the knowledge and he was securing himself as a rabbinical opposition,
he then wanted to mix elements of the Trinity of
the Trinitarian God into the Sabbatian beliefs. So Memo de
Coula became a publication that was basically well known before

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Jacko Frank started to reveal himself, but gave those basis,
let's say, those those basis of merging Christianity and in
the Trinity, in particular with this form of a retical Judaism,
form of ltical Judaism, though that was very much condemned

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as aretic by most of the Jewish contemporaries because it
promoted the swapping of wives, orgies and all the basis
of that misled kabalistic interpretation that led to people like
later on Alistair Crowley and course Influenzia Madame Blavaski. I

(14:36):
was I'm very down to the point here in this
book if you know what I'm talking about, when I,
for example, dedicate a whole chapter to Max Steon, which
is considered the mentor of Madame Blavaski, but very few
people maybe know about him. Or for example, in Yazius
tabulation Lincoln, a figure that comes from the Sabatian Frank

(15:01):
is Millie Hungary and then becomes this sort of ither
find him as an international metal mystery because he changed
so many roads in his life, and this is typical
of those the Sabbatian Frank is the versatility, the fact
that they have often been involved in intelligence operations, but
also the fact that we find them at the very

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creation of some of the most important ideologies that have
transformed Europe. Now, when it comes down to Moses Dobruska,
who was the son of the cousin of Jago Frank,
he was also the grandson of this guy, Rabbiehavior Shoots,

(15:46):
who wrote the bab Elm that was considered like a
holy book by the Sabbatians. He has a really important
role because he changes name of course many times and
in the various roads that he has is another international
man of mystery, liking access Travish Lincoln, who started as

(16:09):
a Jew and ended up as a Buddhist monk, going
through the rise of Nazism, and even a member of
the SRAA and involved with the Anglican share. So here
we have people that repeat the very versatile in transforming themselves.
But that's really the very basis of Jack of Franks knew,

(16:32):
let's say, move he didn't want to be stuck in
the Islamic world of the Ottoman Empire. He wanted to
bring his new form of of Sabbatianism in the Catholic word,
by bringing also to the Jesuits twenty thousand Jews that

(16:52):
will convert and that he will initially call the Edomites
the edom followers, and Jago Frank wanted to open up
to the Christian world. The sabatianires is something that then
became of course immediately controversial, and in fact he was

(17:14):
then arrested by the Inquisition.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Right now, you mentioned a few things that I'd like
to dissect a little bit, first, being their true beliefs.
You mentioned how they mismatch different theological belief systems. But
what it is at its heart is truly something that
seems very dark, resembling what we would now understand is Luciferianism.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Right yeah, well it's inverting the basic tenets of Juda
is you know, going and eating work in the holidays
or literally interpreting also urianni Kaba, which itself was you know,
becoming a new thing within Judas. You know, people were

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starting really to follow the Yezirah and the teachings of
Lurian Cabala. But then they were, of course they were
following the whole thing in a traditional way. Because Isak Luria,
who was born in fifteen thirty four died in fifteen
seventy two. This Jewish rabbi who developed was no Shabbataiseevi

(18:22):
or not Jacko Franko, no Bara Cruz. So he wasn't
an heretic. He was a simple, a guy who sticked
to the tenets of the Mosaic laws, the six hundred
and fifteen laws and the respect of course for those
inai course, laws that were delivered to Moses one. Instead
of course that can be said for these people. These

(18:43):
people were you know, the Luriani Cabala. The doctrines of
creation are to be respected within a context which is
not of course Christian, but has a traditional let's say,
describes the origins of evil. It describes the exile of

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what we see as the shaky, now the divine presence
the doctrine of the redemption one instead, and of course
still sees sexuality as something very holy that shouldn't be
messed with one Instead, in the context of the Sabbatian
Francis with Shabbatize, we immediately see all these things reverse.

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He goes into the elements of Uriennicabella to define what
is known as redemption through sine. So the Holy Book
Babo Lain becomes the description of this imaginary Shabbati going
on top of a mountain to then of course free

(19:50):
himself of every you know, constraint and in this Antiinomian way,
so basically without respecting any rules of the Jewish religion
and creating new ones as it went along. That was

(20:11):
very important that we understand that there are radical courts
of Frankfurt or Mannheim in particular, investigated this matter, found
that they were people who were really dangerous for the faith,
including the uncle of Jacob Frank. So from the very beginning,
the Sabbethians were already under the the you know, under investigation.

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Then Jacob Frank arrives and he adds even more controversy
because here we have a guy who radically re interpreted
the sheik in Us being the Holy Mario source. During
his time, he was arrested by ultimately also by the
Catholic Inquisition because he was dealing secretly with the Orthodox Nations,

(21:00):
and it would be eventually freed by them. He was
saying in one of the most important monasteries that there
is in Eastern Europe, and the Holy Mary of chester Coova,
the Black Mary, which was very revered by John Paul
the Second. So I also give it to the Jeffrey
Epstein Glemax story completely new to Ista, because I explained

(21:20):
why they were received in private audience by a Polish
pope who was very well versed with the Sabbath in
Francist Because if today we have the possibility of studying
many elements of it is because of the archives that
come from Poland, one of the few places where they
survived these documents, because they were very secretive. They were

(21:45):
very secretive when they moved to America. They were very
secretive when they moved around the world because their interest
was never really to become visible. They wanted to create
the banking cartel Manheim the basis of it Frankfurt and
Jagofranco when he was liberated, he eventually created this court

(22:06):
in Offenbach, just near Frankfurt, where the lodges. Of course,
already of the Illuminati were trying to become active in
his very name.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
The method that they use to infiltrate all of our institutions,
and from what it seems, they've infiltrated many of our
religious and financial and political institutions, basically everything that controls
our systems. But the method they do it is extremely

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parasitic because they take on the traits of this other
religion or belief system integrated into something that vaguely resembles
Christianity or whatever they're trying to hide behind, and it
becomes something new and over time, I mean, it's not
recognizable as to what it was.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well. For example, when Jago Frank eventually being investigated, gave
the permission to his followers to marry into the Catholic word,
they didn't simply go marrying to the I don't know,
the butcher on the corner. He got them to marry
with the elite of the Catholic word. And on top
of that, he also gave orders, so when you will

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be baptizing the Catholic faith, you will take on the
surname of your godfather, which would become another very covert
way of infiltrating some of the best families, because their
godfathers will not be the modest guy who we find
in a typical town in Poland or Ukraine or murdeauv

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or whatever they must, it will always be connected to
the research. That's was how they eventually arrived to the
heart of the austrong Garri Campire Vienna, Vienna with the
rothschild who were first nobilitated there. Rochiad also part of
this Sabbatian Frankist establishment. You said it very well. I mean,

(24:07):
they tried to infiltrate, but let's not forget who inspired them,
because they were very close to the Jesuit. And that's
why I said, really inspirational on that front. But when
we go and see, for example, I published a book
that is the last one of the Confession series, Volume twelve.
I explain also the importance that the Conversos and the

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Maranos had in the very formation of in Natulo Yola,
the Alumbrados who were the illuminative of the time, who
were mixing Jewish mysticism Islamic influences, and they were already
if you think about it, putting together that syncretism that
became then of the Sabbatian Frankists.

Speaker 2 (24:53):
I want to get into Epstein a bit, talk about
his rise to power, who he really was, where the
hell he came from, and why him?

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Well, of course he always comes from the family background.
So the first thing which I did then my book
was to go and look into the family background of
Jeffrey Epstein, of Gill and Maxwell, and suddenly I find
myself with an ancestry which was clearly influenced by the

(25:28):
Sabethian Frankist. I mean, when Jacob Frank didn't manage to
force him to convert into the Catholic faith, some of
his acolytes he then told them to infiltrate what then
became the City community, the Orthodox community, so they could
infiltrate and hide themselves from the other. You see still

(25:53):
to this day the problem that Judaism has in confronting
the Sabbatian frankistreity, is that any of the most illustrious rabbis,
including for example, rabbihavior shoots, are considered to this day
some you know, geniuses of the sacred figures of Judaism

(26:17):
that are untouchable. So that I think Jeffrey Epsen comes
into that situation. His family is from Brooklyn. It's a
family that of course comes from Eastern Europe, from the
Sabbatian Frankists, let's say strongholds of Eastern Europe and Russia

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and the Stobowski the family of the mother as well
as the family of the father. And then we have
of course the family of Gille Maxwell, the Hawk family,
which then becomes the Maxwell family. Now these things are rarely,
if not at all, discussed by any journalist systorian to

(26:58):
my knowledge. I was kind of like fascinated by putting
together this book because of the lack of information that
I found when I go around, because everybody's focusing, Oh,
Jeffrey Webstin was working for the Mossad or the Shimber,
or was working for the Yeah, it's not that it
doesn't work that way, it's the mosalte, the Shimbay, and

(27:18):
there is really state that works for the Sabbatian frankis
to have created the state for their own purposes, so
they turn it around, and in a way, when they
turn it around, they make it impossible for the common
folk to really understand who is behind this whole thing.
So Jeffrey Rebstin in the middle of the seventies finds

(27:38):
his patron of sorts in Donald bar Donald Bar, you
know Donald Bar the father of course of the future
head of the DJ when he him himself is suicide. Now,
a lot of people who still believe that Trump can
be genuine in this situation say, oh, but Trump was,

(27:59):
you know, at the time president, and Jeffy Ebsen was arrested.
No Temple was the president with Jeffy Epsin was suicided,
which is another thing. It means that you are basically
trying to eliminate any traces and connections to a figure that,
of course was very powerful. Now, how you see, they

(28:22):
can't really understand the rise of Jeffrey Epstein. That is
very easy to understand the rise of Jeffy Epsen once
you understand how the Sabbath and Frankist work. First of all,
they support their own even within the Jewish community. They
are a restricted and internal community to the Jewish community.

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They hate other Jews. So in reality they might see
them in favor of Israel or in favor of Judaism,
but they hate anybody that hasn't fold for their fake
Massiahs because they are fake Massia. They are false pro
as you know we call them in the New Testament.

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So to deliver the truth about Jeffrey Epstein means to
go first of all behind the scenes. And the first
figure of controversy we find is Donald Barr. Because Donald
Bar is this guy who was born into nineteen twenty

(29:27):
one in two thousand and four. But the guy is
an incredible figure. He has a time in the Office
of Strategic Services, the OSS during World War Two. He
is a Jewish person who converts to Catholicism, not a
late age, which only the Sabbati and Frankis do, to

(29:48):
then rise up in the Catholic faith his sons. And
that's why really there is a problem. You know, when
people to of William Barr, Donald Bard, they don't connect
him to the Jewish world. And his Jewish family hails

(30:08):
its roots from the city of verdie Kief, which is
a major center of acidic Judaism that was infiltrated by
the Sabbatian Frankists. So Donald Barr, it's typical Sabbatian Frankist.
I mean, he's a Jew, and any converser Catholicism he
brings up as a Catholic. He's even William Barr, that,

(30:32):
as we know, was strategic as US Attorney General during
the first Tramp administration. He had written a book Space
Relation just a year before employing Jeffrey Epstein in a school,
a very preppy New York school in New York, without

(30:56):
Jeffrey Epstein really having even the I mean he should
have had, you know, a PhD something, some kind of
degree to be a science to teach science and mathematics
in a school like that, without really having any you know,

(31:18):
he went to high school, but he never really got
further than that. How is it possible that this guy
gives him a job at the Dalton School with all
these elite people there. It's obvious that the Donald Barr
found in Jeffrey Epstein not only a good tim Frankist

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that could you know, indulge into what they believe, which
is a redemption through sin, is creating sin around them
of immense proportions. So then once you create all this scene,
you are kind of like unattached di it. You are,
you know, going above it. But also because both Sabbatis

(32:03):
and Jago Frank believe that by doing all this they
will get closer and closer to the Messianic times, that
they will eventually bring back the future king of Israel.
So the aside from everything else, of course, we see
that Shabbataise for example, gets to be the Messiah only

(32:27):
when not and of Gaza. In Gaza, by the way,
a place that is still very controversial, accepts him and
says to him, you need to reveal yourself as the Messiah.
At that point, the scenery in Jerusalem rejected him. It
was Gaza, the place where the Sabbatians first above and
where all the tribes of Israel, the remaining tribes that

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you know. We have also the thing that there is
two tribes that are the ones that are known, and
we have ten tribes that are unknown of Israel. Now,
in the context of the Sabbatians, Mortega ISSEVI, the father
of Sabbatia, was very much also connected to this guy

(33:14):
komens Be in Israel, who by the way, connected with
another guy from from all chrome Word's background, who gave
birth to this belief British Israelis, which became a very
important belief to then convince the British people that they
were the lost tribes of Israel, that they had to
support the Jews in a special way and eventually support

(33:37):
the bal for decorations after the Sich Spike agreement. So
the Donald Barr, who gives Jeffrey ebs and this first job,
publishes a book that is filled with the not Soviet
Sabbatian Frankis reference, in which we have basically this paedo
pile from out the space, and we have a few

(34:00):
that resembles Gill and Maxwell called Lady Morgan indulging in
acts of sadism. And I mean, it's it's incredible that,
I mean, these people were actually already preparing the rise
of Jeffrey Epstein, and that happened eventually, it was sanctioned
in the middle of the eighties when Les Wexner, another

(34:25):
member of the clique of people, gave him that building
that eventually he will sell to him for a dollar
worth millions, which is said that rigged with cameras and
everything to start the operations, the operations that of course
then he carried on also the zorrange he carried in
Little Saint James, and the operations that I exposed in

(34:49):
my book connected also to the signs of transhumanism, robotics,
hands of robotics, and the soft tour behind the Sophia
the robot I mean when I mix the face of
Jeffrey Epsen and frank there is a reason, and there
is actually many layers. There is the layer of the

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interpretation of the word Frankenstein, because Mary Shelley was inspired
by Jaco frank and Franken was for frank and that
Stein means stone. But also the eye is like the
eye in the interpretation, also in the cabalistic interpretation. But
is the Frankenstein monster that gets out of control, like

(35:34):
the order of the Illuminati, that is created within the
world of free mission that then rises and creates itself
problems a getting out of control. Let's not forget that
in Mary Shelley's history, doctor Frankenstin goes to the University
of Ingostadt. So there is also that clear reference to

(35:56):
the Illuminati. The husband of Mary Shelley is it is
himself involved in the secret societies we commonly refer to
the Illuminati. So the link with Frankenstein is it's very direct.
It's not just a imaginary and like you said, the golem,
the golem is a folk tale of something of a

(36:19):
monster created out of clay with the formula kabalistic magical
formula by these rabbis who then create something which goes
out of the control they can't control any longer, supposed
to protect their community, but then becomes something. And Jeffrey
Epstein was of course working for the intelligence of is

(36:40):
there to protect their communities also around the world and stuff.
But at the same time Jeffrey Epstein gets out of
control and Jeffrey Epstein in the end becomes the victim
of his monstrosities. So in nineteen ninety one they created
this Jewish study group known as the Mega Group with

(37:02):
less ex Charles Boufman.

Speaker 2 (37:04):
In it.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
We find in fact a guy which is very important,
Ronald Loder Lord and Louder. One of the first finances
of Benjamin Atania from one of the heirs of the
State Loader Cosmetics company, was the ambassador in Austria in

(37:24):
the eighties, when eventually Jeffrey Ebsen is also given a
passport Soudi Arabia passport with the residents in Austria. Austria
the home of the Sabbatheen Francist because it's true that
they developed in Eastern Europe, but it's also very much

(37:44):
true that the Lodgers became more and more influential in
what we in Vienna because Vienna was considered like, you know,
the New York of the time.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Let's say, yeah, that is fascinating. You mentioned briefly some
of the operations that Epstein was involved with and the
ones most people know about blackmail, operations, trafficking, but you
also mentioned transhumanism. This goes deeper into layers and most

(38:16):
people aren't aware of talk a little bit about the
transhuman aspect people.

Speaker 3 (38:22):
First of all, people need to understand, I mean jeff
Ebsen had an office in Harvard University. I mean it's
not like me and you can go and open an
office in Harvard University. So that gives you the idea
with the academic word hand in hands, professors that were

(38:42):
deemed to be very inspirational, very powerful, at the time
will simply bow down to his to his influence and
go and visit him in Little Saint James, and of
course in Doug also with whatever the ravit is, the
indulging also in the Zoro Range, both the Zoro Range

(39:05):
as well as Little Saint James, aside from Little Saint James.
Having that, of course, clearly that temple, which is by
the way inspired by a building that was a hotspot
of Sabbatianism in a LiPo in Syria, which is something
that needs to be But the fact that this guy

(39:27):
was connected to Peter Til, he was connected to a
long mask, He was connected to a lot of people
that are at the basis of what we are living now,
this dark Enlightenment era. So it's it's, it's it's very
important for people to understand. For example, Jeffrey Epstein invested

(39:50):
a lot of money in the study and research of
things that the common folk will find the weird.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Right.

Speaker 3 (40:01):
He wanted to inseminate the world with the seamen of
Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, what is that all about? I
mean the jeff the Epstein Empire intersected with the Santa
Fe Institute, where he donated two hundred and seventy five thousand,
where Jim Ruth chaired the boarder while Jordan greener Hole

(40:22):
was a trustee and they were contemplating in the future
of civilization. Like I said, Peter Thiel a figure that
we all know now about because of Valenteer, but let's
not forget that Peter Thier comes from Frankfurt. And then
we go back to one of the base hotspots of
the seventeen Frankisterre is it because that's where it sprang out.

(40:45):
And it wasn't only involved in Jews, because Peter Thiel
is not a Jew, but there was also involved in
Christians who went into their lodges. The Asiatic Brethren was
extreme influential the whole thing. It was insreme influential because
it was the first Masonic organization that welcomed Jews into

(41:08):
the lodges. Jews were not welcome in any Masonic obedience
in Europe, especially in Germany, and they were definitely not
welcome you. And in the Illuminatio Adam Beshap that there's
a specific rule that tells you not to get Jews
to join. I know it sounds a little bit controversial,

(41:32):
the sol thing, but in the end, when you understand
how they were operating, they compartmentalize with this Asiatic Brethren
the creation of something that then was extremely influential. I mean,
the Siatic Brethren became the influential order for the order

(41:54):
temporientis that then of course worcame Alister Crowley. They teaching
of Alistair Crowley, the teachings of Madame Blak. I mean
here we're talking about the very teachings that are so
are considered so influential today in you know, in so
called sexual magic, and everybody is always talking about these

(42:16):
things and think that Crowley is the god that created all. No,
he was simply a guy who took teachings that were
already elaborated before him. He formulated them with his philosophy
of telema. But in reality, when we see the foundation

(42:37):
documents of the Uto, we see a direct reference to
the Asiatic Brethren, also known as the Freda Lucius, because
they were also connected to the Freda Lucius. So they
were they they became when the Sabbath Frankist ended the
Masonic Illuminati network in Europe at the time, they became

(42:59):
extremely flueniure. If today you know, if in the century
that followed. We had the Golden Dawn, we had the
all these orders that were doing their own thing with
Kabala and stuff. Is because they were inspired by the
Sabethan Frankis, how does this this whole thing evolve. It

(43:22):
also from a guy called Hecker, when coffin Hans Eric
bon Hecker, who was a German nobleman, a Bavarian officer,
who gave very initially to a group called the Order
of the Will and the Order of the Rosy Cross.
He was actually a member of the Order of the

(43:43):
Golden Rosy Cross, which, by the way, I also explained volunteer,
my confession is a Jesuit creation of the time. He
was then kicked out of it. He founded that this
brief briefly lived Order rotted Crucis, which though became extremely
influential in seventeen seventy six because it is fire then

(44:06):
the birth of Adam Daishap's Illuminati. The success of his
Order of this Resecrucion thing didn't really work out for him,
but it worked out when he went to Munich, and
we said, Munich is a Sabbatian frank Is a place
is another Let's say, aside from Frank for man Munich

(44:29):
and Vienna are very important for the Sabbatian Francis, and
it was there that certain Sabbatian Frankists were introduced to him.
And then at that point he opened his lodges to
all the Jews, but these were no ordinary Jews. He
was opening the lodgest to the Sabbatian Frankist Jewics. So
the main people behind him at that point was actually

(44:53):
a direct relative of Jacko Frank who had now Moses.
Dobruska is a important figure because it also demonstrates there
is a direct link with the French Revolution here, like
there is a direct link we said earlier with the
rise of Nazism. Here we have a direct link with

(45:14):
the philosophisial cell and with the very birth of one
of the most important moments in the history of the
Western world, because the French Revolution is considered such now.
He was known as most As Dobruska. He was the
son of the cousin and first cousin of Jaco Frank.

(45:35):
He was the grandson of the guy who wrote this
Holy Book of the of the Sabbatians, the rabbi that
was involved in this controversy because the Rabbi abe Shoots
was attacked and became involved in one of the biggest controversies,
the hen then Abe Shoots controversy, which we don't have

(45:57):
no time to go into, but then described in my
book very important the Knights. Now, when he became one
of the main activists of these Knights of Saint John
evangelists for Asian Europe commonly referred as the Theiatic Brethren,
he of course filtered the teachings that he had received

(46:18):
from the Sabbatian War. The Sabbatian Frankis toward I mean
a guy so close to Jacob Frank was of course
influenced by his teaching and was filtering in the lodge.
But he wasn't the only one in together with him.
There was another Sabbathian frank Is called Efrem Joseph Inglisheld,
who had been a German Jewish I mean, was a

(46:39):
German Jewish mynstic very much involved in the Jewish Enlightenment
because he was then very close with Moses Mendelson. Moses
Mendelson is considered one of the most important figure in
the development of the Ashkala, which is the Jewish Enlightenment.
Here we are talking about the modernization of Juds. You know,

(47:02):
it's like the Sabbath in Frankis. Thanks to these figures
pushed certain Jews to secularize themselves and distance themselves from
the religion more and more so, if they couldn't get
them to become eretics, they would get them to become artists.
Like you said earlier, there is a similarity here with Satanism.

(47:25):
And because in the end, even if of course Satanism
can be yeah, also consider something that is born within
the Jewish media, Jewish faith. Let's say it's with Christianity
that we usually refer to the Satanic Mass as the

(47:45):
reversal of everything Catholic and Christian. They were reversing everything
that was Jewish, the formulas, the way of so while
in the lodges of Freemasonry they focus in bringing this

(48:06):
fusion of Juday's Christianity, Kabbalistic nonsense all together with this,
of course Frankist point of view. Then this became the
basic elements of that sexual magic that eventually would be
then practiced by Alista Crowle. So he was talking about

(48:29):
a direct formal link the lodges of Thesiatic bread and
didn't disappear. After the death of Jacob Frank or after Mosses,
Dobruska was put on the guillotine because he then became
known as Junius Frey. He went to with the Jacobins
to fight in the French Revolution, and he would eventually

(48:50):
lose his head, which is kind of you know, But
in the meantime he became extremely influential. He still maintained
of course contact like also with the others who were
involved the cteling. They bred and like Efreim Joseph Fischer,

(49:12):
who was more connected with the Offenbach court. The oftenback
court was the court because Jago Franco, when he was
liberated by the Russians, he went to Offenbach. He took
this castle and he became the baron. He was became
All these Sabbatian Frankists at that point had become nobles,

(49:35):
even Sheffield himself. Most of Dobruska was a noble, was
an aristocrat. That was their aim was to become integrated
with the aristocracy, with the noble families of Europe, initially
within the country court and then the Black Aristo secretly
aristocracy close to the Vatican, then with the Anglican aristocracy

(49:59):
of the of England. The Broadshots were nobilitated in England.
So in the end, this nobilitation makes them very different
from your ordinary gion and win the other earths eventually
came with the idea of the Zionist movement, and then

(50:21):
they had to put together. Though at that point there
was a very fractured Jewish world. There was a Jewish
war that I was talking Hiddish in the Ashkenazi community
and being Orthodox and kind of defined as primitive and
trible by the secularized Jews. Would say, these people, they

(50:43):
are like, you know, a little bit tribal, a bit
like Franz Kafka himself a Jewish, secularized Jew. Let's say,
I figured very close to let's say, the ideas that
were promoted by the more secularized Jewish Enlightenment roach. But
at the same time we have to understand that all

(51:04):
this splitting Judas in various currents, and then the arrival
of Zionists, the arrival of different kinds of Zionists, because
you know, you create the left Zionists, labor scientists, you
create the right science. Revisionist scientists created the in the
Galian tactics of creating the opposites. Ultimately we see that

(51:28):
the Sebetian Frankis were the ones who inspired the very
formation of the state of Israel, which was defined by
my late friend Ery Hamish as a Sabbatian state. So
I think that in my book, finally you have all
this and it's not an anti Semitic book, because in fact,
I have Jewish people, even from the city community, who
are reading this book, are complimenting me for the respect

(51:52):
I have of Judaism, because you see it, it's very
easy to fall into the antisemitic nonsense, to the typical
bashing of the Jews. You can never do that with
an entire race is ignorance. You can condem an ideology,
you can a sectarian rate.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
To be part of our modern Hegelian dialectic to further
divide people and bring them further away from what's really happening.
I want to get your thoughts on what is unfolding now,
where we're at with the Epstein trial. What is this
administration's role in everything?

Speaker 3 (52:31):
What do your thought Well, I mean forced into maybe
redacting a lot of stuff that will then be made public,
but we will never have the videos of he Barrack, raping,
Virginia Giuffrey or other monscules. It is. You can't forget that.
I mean, we're going to have a highly filtered version

(52:53):
of things because the people who are behind the set
in Francis I the most in my book, and there
are people who most of the time you never heard,
but they are control of the banking system, of the
automobile industry, of other important elements, you know, the military
industrial complex as well as well as the big pharma.

(53:17):
Those people, they don't want the truth, the entire truth
behind Jeffrey Epstein to ever be known, the fact that
Athelex we Exstan. Then you have Robert Maxwell, the father
of Gilaine into the equation. He himself died in a
mysterious way. In the same way that we have a

(53:37):
Jeffrey Epstein who is suicided, we have a Robert Maxwell
who has suicided. Let's not forget that these people are
often kept alive until they are no longer you know
or reputed the safe, and then they are eliminated.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
So much of what you've written about over the years
seems to be unfor as we speak. You mentioned the
Dark Enlightenment, the transhuman movement, This technocracy that is taking
over everything. It seems like we're moving closer and closer
to an AI governance system, which is terrifying.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Do you have hope?

Speaker 2 (54:15):
What are your thoughts on where we're at with all that?

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Well, as you know, I had the written, in fact
the trilogy dedicated to cyber said and volume six point
sixty six, which we discussed in the past, then the
volume seven and volume nine cyber sat and as the
ultimate evil development of the AI ward the artificial intelligence
and robotics, who, by the way, like we said, they

(54:43):
were central also to like people will discover reading my
book to the work of Jeffrey Epstein, are to be
used forul the control of people who are going to
be highly discontent, who will feel betrayed more and more
by the political establishment, who will not no longer go
and vote, who might even think about civil arrest. But

(55:08):
by that point, the technology in front of us, robotics
and AI, will make it impossible for them to really
go totally off the grid or escape from what is
already a prison planet with thousands of satellites around it.
And this is really unfortunate, but is the reality we

(55:29):
have to face. We cannot be eluding ourselves, like some
people in the New Age community or in the True
for movement in the past saying, oh, the moment of
reckoning is coming. We are getting freed. Guys. Getting freed
means at that point, if we really have to be
absolutely honest about it, giving up your bank account, giving

(55:51):
up everything that you have material because they own it,
not you. They are the ones who are produced. They
are the ones who have so all to you and
everyone are going to continue to strive over this materialistic realm. Unfortunately,
we can hope maybe for a number of years to

(56:12):
be creating maybe an independent of the greed, the reality
that doesn't accept the compromises of the eye. But that
would mean at least a million people that come together
and say, okay, we buy this island, you know, we
go and overtake little Saint James and Bigs and whatever

(56:34):
island is next to it that actually absence had both
also another island, by the way, it's never talked about
a bigger island next to it. And so at that
point we could maybe have a degree of independence. But
I'm being realistic here. This planet nowadays has been a
compromise because that technology that traverse engineering, if you think

(56:59):
about it, comes from the very foreign angels that we
have been always trying to fight and to expose.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
For the longest time, I've had an understanding that there
is no savior coming, there is no heroes at any
high level in power. That we're basically on our own
when it comes to this stuff. Would you agree with
that or do you think there is someone in power
that may be working against some of these things.

Speaker 3 (57:28):
There is people in every institution in the world. There
is honest people, good people who don't like what is happening,
who don't like where we're heading, but unfortunately they are
a minority. Unfortunately, the moment you are in those institutions,
you are meant to compromise. The moment you go to
the White House, you sit on that chair, you are

(57:49):
compromising because there is no way that you can say
no to the big farmer, the militant. That's a complex,
the banking, catael, the whole system once you're there, and
that also is really being becoming more and more evident
with the second trump A presidency. So I think that
disappointment in politics can only lead to abandoning politics together

(58:15):
in search maybe of an alternative of the great solution
at least to create a microcosm that doesn't bring us
under the complete control and domination of that AI which
is inevitably used being used already now to control our minds.

(58:35):
Technocracy is our enemy. It's not our friend. And whoever
claims the contrary, because you know, we have those who
claim yeah, but there is a positive way we can
use this opposed the way it's like playing with fire,
and it's like saying that, you know, using a nuclear

(58:58):
facility in jeb is a positive thing when we all
know that Japan is prone to earthquakes, and in fact
we saw it with Focushima, a complete disaster and nobody's
talking about it. But for one thousand years more we're
going to have radi activity from that, from that terrible
event that happened. So we have to be honest also,

(59:20):
and I the problem here. I see a lot of
finger pointing, a lot of exposure work. But in the
sense when it comes to the UFO thing, the UFO thing,
it's also part of the problem, and it's going to
be more and more part of the problem the more

(59:41):
they actually come out and reveal us more about it.
They're so called exposure. It's all part of something that
is coming. And you were saying, is there a savior? Well,
if we have to be honest, we did all the

(01:00:02):
religions in the world. There is a figure that might
oppose this arrangement. At the same time, we have also
the rise of a figure that is commonly referred to
as the Antichrist that will endorse it. So I have
still hope that maybe we can somehow oppose this, and

(01:00:25):
that is my hope. I mean, I'm not you know,
I'm simply stating that the prophets of all, including Jesus
and the Christian world, have always promised us so that
this moment will come, so we should of course be
ready for it, but to compromise like today's Christians do

(01:00:47):
often or other religions, thinking that they have the only
way and that they are the answers to all the problems,
and that eventually it's not an easy thing when you
know very well that God is definitely the answer to
things and can be of course a great moment for

(01:01:09):
us to maybe deal directly without all these organized religions
who seem to inevitably be corrupt at one point.

Speaker 2 (01:01:15):
Yeah, the teachings of Jesus Christ are the easiest way
to navigate your way through the madness. So if there's
anything that can be recommended, I'd probably go there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:28):
Absolutely. But in fact, the fact is that we have
so much instrumental use of Jesus still to this day,
by the very people who claim to be Christians or
Catholic So this or that, it demonstrates that the demonic
forces what we commonly refer to as the devil or say,

(01:01:50):
and has all the interests to control that. You know
that those teachings in some way now when it comes
to the Jewish word, they didn't have an acceptance of Jesus,
and for that reason they were prone to fall for
these false messiahs. And that is where Shabbatiae he comes in.

(01:02:14):
Jacob Frank and even Barol Cruz. So these people who
have inevitably brought Judaism in their wrong direction, if they
accepted Jesus two thousand years ago, this will have never happened.
You know that that gives us a very clear indication.
But it's also true that Jesus himself became the matter

(01:02:36):
of political and geopolitical interests. With the Council of Nissa onwards.
We start seeing compromises upon compromises, it becomes a state
religion for the Roman Empire. And at that point that
you have the Valigant, which I find the most anti
Christian institution. To you, you can see in the war.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
Well, one thing we can do is learn as much
as we can can. And you have many books out
there that have been predicting everything.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
And I would suggested for what we discussed today was
just of course the rise and fall of frankest Monster,
exposing Jeffrey Epsen and the most powerful sect in the world.
But also before that, this is the last installment of
my confessions. I'm no longer doing any other confessions because
my intention was to describe in twelve books this whole

(01:03:26):
pyramid of power. When you arrived to the top of
the pyramid, where we will commonly refer to the old
seeing Eye, which in reality is the Jesuit general is
the Jesuits is the power that controls of the secret
societies we commonly refer to as Illuminati or Freemasonry, and
this I think is very important. There is also another

(01:03:47):
book which you have never discussed me you, which I
suggest for the readers, which is about Islamic Freemasonry, and
the Secret Society is behind the eternal conflict in the
Middle East because it received praises even from the Islamic word,
even from the surface, which I criticize in the book,
because they say, it's evident that I have respected that,

(01:04:10):
you know, I've respected the religion in a way that
I claim sources which are credible. I don't simply speculate
in my books. So that is definitely something that I
suggest for our viewers to read into my books, because
when you have maybe nineteen it's sixty mini, it's an interview,

(01:04:31):
it's simply scratching the surface of something that requires further studies.
And also today with this culture of scrolling on the
web for your phone and thinking that you can get
all the truth with a page or two on the internet,
it's completely wrong. You need to really go much deeper
if you want to have a complete awareness. And then

(01:04:54):
at the point, once you are aware of all these things,
create your own reality and promoted with your friends and
people who are like minded, to create maybe at least
a microcosm of people who have a reason in this
world of increased madness and kalo excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
I agree one hundred percent Leo. Thank you so much.
We'll definitely be doing this again. Most so much more
we can discuss and until next time, everyone, have an
excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (01:05:26):
Thank you very much.

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