Tales From the Rift, NHI are Here, Liminal Spaces & Realms Beyond | Tillie Treadwell - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew. Today,
my guest is Tilly Treadwell. If you haven't yet check
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Knowledge Network. We feature some of your favorite podcasts and
content creators. Today, I want to welcome Tilly Treadwell. She
is an author, speaker, content creator, teacher, and paranormal experiencer

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whose journey into the paranormal began thanks to encounters with
non human beings preceding her ability to speak. Tilly, welcome,
How you doing?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Hello there, I'm doing very well today. I'm honored to
be here. Thank you for having me, and I hope
you're having a great day too.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I am, and thank you so much for coming on.
Looking forward to our discussion today, I'm really glad you
were able to make it on. Last time we had
your husband Artemais on to give us an introduction into
your experiences, but today we're going to be hearing your insights.
You also have a new book, very exciting, Tales from
the Rift. We'll be getting into that a bit as well.

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But this is your first time on and there's a
lot to get to before we do. Tell the audience
just a little bit about yourself and let them know
how they can find out even more about you.

Speaker 4 (02:23):
Ah, I can do that, I think so.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
My name is Tillie Rose Treadwell. I am an American author, speaker, teacher,
and intermediary. I have been having paranormal encounters since before
I could even speak, so the paranormal is kind of
you could say, maybe even part of my DNA.

Speaker 4 (02:45):
I'm most well known for my role.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Behind the scenes of certain genetic studies and neurochemical neurological
studies recently, and I've been working with a group of
scientists to assist the human society in further evolution. But
I mean outside of that, yes, I am an author.

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I write for Eerie Expeditions magazine as well as Outer
Limits magazine.

Speaker 4 (03:17):
That's over in the UK, though, but.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
My publishing house is based here in America. I've got
a brand new standalone book coming, and you've gotten a
chance to read some of that. I hope you've loved it.
My publisher loved it so much that I was granted
essentially endless contract renewals to continue the series and a
spin off that's going to be coming.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
To you guys next year. But man, what'd you think?
What'd you get to write?

Speaker 2 (03:48):
I thought it was wonderful. I was only able to
read the first few pages of it since it was
such short notice, but the storytelling was beautiful, and the
experiences in the are incredible. Before we do get into that,
you said that you've had a lifetime of experiences before

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you could even speak, right, what is it that you
can remember? What is your earliest memory of paranormal experiences?

Speaker 4 (04:18):
Sure?

Speaker 3 (04:19):
So I tell this story all the time, and this
is one of the encounters that's really stuck with me
all throughout the ages. I was a little baby. I
was somewhere between I would say three and six months old,
And for anyone who may not be aware, I am

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diagnosed as being level one autistic, as well as having
a diagnosis of very low ego content and very low
emotional content. That's something that we can dive into further
later on, but it's highly relevant to this story because
now scientists are finding that people who are autistic do

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tend to hold pre verbal memories in some cases, and
I seemed to be one of those.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
So I was a.

Speaker 3 (05:09):
Baby in my baby carrier, and I'm a nineties baby.
So do you remember the infant carriers had the handle
and you could transport them in the car that way,
but it was like a little rocker. Yeah, I was
in one of those, and I was swaddled up in
a nice little blue blanket, I had my pacifier. I

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was happy as a clam and I was at one
of our relatives houses for a holiday. I don't remember
exactly which holiday, to be honest, but the family was
gathered in the kitchen and I was on the floor
in the carrier, just looking up at the ceiling, happily
enjoying my pacifier, and all of a sudden, just like that,

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I was taken up out of my body. And I
was fully conscious. So I know for fact that I
was not dreaming, because one second I was there listening
to the adults around me and enjoying the scenery, and
the next second I was up out of my little body.

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And to this day, this is one of the weirdest encounters,
I would say, quote unquote that I've ever had, because
the being that came to get me, I still don't
know exactly how the physics of this would work. But
she it they whomever was presented as a as like

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the full moon essentially, but complete with a human like face,
so two eyes, a small nose, and a smiling mouth.
And she, I say she, because it's it was a
feminine presentation, was holding me against her and like looking

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down at me. With her eyes, but there was no
arm present. So somehow I was magnetized to this person's body,
or maybe it works differently wherever I went, I don't know,
but she communicated to me telepathically that she was very

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happy and grateful that I was coming to Earth to
do what I was going to do, and she was
asking how she could help support me and support my
purpose here. And I was honestly terrified because I was
a little, tiny baby and being fresh into this incarnation.

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Is the theory that I didn't understand what was going on,
and I didn't have memories of what this person was
talking about.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
At least, this is my working theory. Now. I began
to cry as.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
Large as a loud and hard as I could, and
she just dropped me back into my body, and I
remember slamming back into my body, and then I started
to physically scream and cry here on this plane, and
I remember spitting out my pacifier to whale, and my
mother came and she got me, and I remember the

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adults like kind of chuckling and laughing because they had
never seen me cry that hard before. And it took
me a very long time to calm down. I didn't
calm down until I had cried myself to sleep, actually,
and no matter what they did, they could not soothe me.
So that that was my introduction to the paranormal.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
You could say, throughout your childhood, how did your experiences
present themselves and progress and how did your understanding grow?

Speaker 3 (08:59):
Oh? I, well, do you consider some pre birth memories
to be paranormal? Would you classify that as something?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well, I can't classify any other person's experience as anything,
but if they believe that that's what they're experiencing, I
would have to say that that is what they're experiencing,
because that is their experience. But I definitely think it
is possible.

Speaker 4 (09:28):
That's totally fair.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
I just wanted to get your input, your opinion personally
before I started to ramble on it.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
I am I think anything is positible, Honestly.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
I love that attitude.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Yes, okay, So when I hit around the age of three,
four or five years old, I was at my grandma's
house and I just started having memories that were kind
of brought on by the realization that I couldn't project
myself wherever I wanted to go anymore, that I was

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stuck in this body.

Speaker 4 (10:05):
So I started to.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
What I call quote unquote remember, But of course I
don't know this for a fact.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
This is just my experience.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
I started to remember being back beyond the veil and
hiding in objects in my grandma's house there, and being
excited to come to Earth. And I would watch the
family go about their business, and I would ponder what

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it was like to be human and to be here
on earth and grounded in a body instead of wherever
I wanted to be.

Speaker 4 (10:45):
So I would often hide.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
In my grandma's mantle garlands because my grandmother was really
into decorating for the seasons. I'm I'm sure, as you
could tell, some of her flair kind of rubbed off
on me. But she would have these beautiful garlands on
the mantle for every season, and I seem to have

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memories of hiding in those garlands, and hiding in the
little cuckoo clock that she had in the dining room,
and hiding in some dolls and teddy bears that she had,
and looking out into this world from those objects. So
I was inhabiting those objects, preparing to incarnate here, and

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having chose that family particularly to get me jump started
on my journey here incarnate. So that's one example, And
since then, I've gotten a chance to talk to a
lot of non human people who have been seemingly incarnate
here for any amount of time, sometimes permanent, sometimes part time,

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sometimes just for a few moments, as well as reaching
beyond the veil to talk with them, and interesting, they
also had reported to me extremely similar experiences and methods
of operation, kind of within this realm and right on
the edge of it, so possessed dolls and possessed other objects.

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I fully believe that that is a thing, and I
seem to have some personal experience with that from before
I was born.

Speaker 4 (12:26):
So there's one example.

Speaker 2 (12:29):
With your experiences with what you call non human entities,
how did they present themselves? And were all your experiences benevolent?

Speaker 3 (12:43):
They presented themselves in a multitude of ways over the years.
Sometimes they interact with me in just little orbs of light.
Sometimes they look like big, misty fog. Other times they
are present as shadow people, you could say, like three
dimensional shadows. Sometimes they just look like people, like normal people.

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Sometimes they look like that's what it is, medieval chimera paintings.
Do you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, yeah, so
I've met beings and people that look precisely like some
of those critters. Sometimes they'll show up as strangely enough,
a fictional character or a cartoon character, or another archetype

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like a god, an angel, a devil. It really just
just depends on that person and their personality and how
they'd like to interact with me and what type of
lesson that they have for me. And especially since beginning
to write these tales for my new book, because it's

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going to be a very long series, I've had more
and more groups of non human people and individuals coming
to me and saying, hey, as long as you don't
blow my cover, as long as you fictionalize this in
some way, I would like you to tell my story
and add to the human mythos. I'm a quantum story collector,

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so I'm all down for that. And even sometimes too,
I've had non human people spot me out in public
and approached me. So there's there's been a new trend
going on lately on TikTok. People are starting to catch
on to the liminal space theory. Liminal spaces can be

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like the fireplace in your home, but they also are
places like gas stations, back alleyways, crossroads, and grocery stores.
And I've had more than one encounter with an incarnate
non human person who has approached me in one way
or another, and I have a.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Lot of fun with it.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
As to whether all of them have been positive, I've
been told many many times that because of my neurodivergence
and my own physical differences, that.

Speaker 4 (15:09):
I'm far more amenable to.

Speaker 3 (15:12):
Non human people than i am to most egoed human beings.
So I personally have not really had any super negative
quote unquote experiences with non human people, except for the
one case where I was living in a house that

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we didn't know it needed such repair. It was breaking
down around us. We didn't realize it when we moved in.
That's the joy of living in Florida. Unfortunately, we have
a lot of slum lords here, to be honest, and
it's crazy the audacity too, because they will charge you
a pretty penny every single month, knowing that your roof
is about to collapse, so you got to be very careful.

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But I call them decay claim hauntings. Decay claim hauntings
tend to be the most vicious because these are hauntings
where the entities don't seem to have a lot of
free will or sentience. They are really just there as
a byproduct of filth or of environmental decay.

Speaker 4 (16:24):
Yeah, so you can't talk.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
To them and reason with them in any which way.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
They will break.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Through any defense that they possibly can, especially as the
damage in the environment or the house spreads. And we
were chased out of the house in twenty twenty three
because of that, And during that I was physically assaulted
by one of these beings, and it was a really

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nasty haunting, to be honest, but that's been my only
overwhelmingly negative experience.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
I want to go back to the liminal spaces for
a minute. This is fascinating. Have you had experiences where
you may have had what people would consider a time slip,
missing time where you actually were not in this reality
anymore and people witnessed that you were gone?

Speaker 4 (17:22):
Yeah, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
That happens a lot with Artomaus and I, and oh goodness,
it happens, honestly, so much that pinpointing more recent examples
is difficult, But I can share a neat story with
people about that. On our first date, it happened, and

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he talks about this all the time.

Speaker 4 (17:48):
We went to a mall as.

Speaker 3 (17:50):
Part of our date, and we were having such a
good time talking and walking around the mall that we
didn't realize the mall had closed around us and they
had locked the doors and everything. But the thing is,
we weren't hiding at all. We were walking freely around
the mall. We were watching the security guards just go
and do their things around us. We were watching people

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come and go and whatnot, and no one seemed to
know that we were there. But then it seemed like
some kind of spell was broken, because when we went
to leave the mall, that is the only time that
the security guard even realized. Well, the guards realized that
we were there, and they came to get us because

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they only had seen us on the camera.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
So what to make of that? Really?

Speaker 3 (18:38):
Did we disappear into some kind of liminal dimension. Was
there some kind of perhaps unintentional glamour at play. I
don't know, but it's still one of our most intriguing
experiences with such a concept to this day.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
And it wasn't a short amount of time we were.

Speaker 3 (18:58):
In that you could say pocket dimension. For at least
an hour and a half, wow, just wandering about talking.

Speaker 2 (19:06):
And did you notice any time difference whenever you started
to realize that you were back or whenever that experience
was over.

Speaker 4 (19:17):
Oh goodness.

Speaker 3 (19:21):
The thing that sticks out to me most is that
it seemed to me that time went by incredibly quickly.
But does that reflect on the clocks.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:32):
And that was like ten years ago, so reason not
quite that.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Guy, I have to hear about your exorcism experiences. You
worked as an exorcist, Is this correct?

Speaker 4 (19:45):
That is correct?

Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yes, for anyone who doesn't know this about me. For
a little bit over a year, I was part of
an exorcist and investigation team for the Catholic Church. Now, granted,
I am not a religious person, and at the time
I was not a religious person, so under the broader
term of exorcist, that's where I felt.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
I'm a non.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Religious Did they seek you out?

Speaker 4 (20:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (20:15):
Interesting?

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I was known in my wider community where I used
to live for being an excellent energy healer, tarot.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Card reader, a medium.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Oh absolutely, And I didn't realize it. But a good
friend of mine at the time he had told me
about being Catholic. He told me about being involved in
the church, but I was really young at that point,
and I was just I was not picking up what.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
He was putting down. He kept trying to tell me.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
He's like, you would be so awesome if you would
expand your gifts, if you would help the wider community
with exorcisms and things like that.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
And I was like, oh, yeah, maybe one day.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
I mean, I don't know, but I'm not religious.

Speaker 4 (20:58):
And then one day he's like, I want you to
come meet some people with me. Will you do that?

Speaker 3 (21:05):
Will you consider joining my team as I would love to, That.

Speaker 4 (21:09):
Would be wonderful.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
He took me to the Catholic Church locally and we
met with the father. And I didn't even know at
this point that any church whatsoever was working hand in
hand with paranormal groups. But it's true, and over the
last few years there have been a few fathers and

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pastors who have come out and said, yes, when we
get in into a case that's over our head, sometimes
we will call on a trusted group of people and
they will handle the case with us.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
So that is what I wound up doing.

Speaker 3 (21:47):
Our team consisted of, depending on the case and who
was available, it would typically be between three and seven
people max. But the core group was like four to
five of us, including me. They had some of the
best gear at the time, and I didn't handle the gear.

Speaker 4 (22:07):
I was solely there to work.

Speaker 3 (22:10):
As an intuitive and to make contact with the non
human people, as well as to screen for mental health
concerns within the victim or the family, because I had
at that point undergone two years of clinical training for

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trauma and for psychological care, because originally I was planning
on being a psychologist, a trauma psychologist, and I decided
that that wasn't for me. We can talk about why later,
but I was lending my knowledge and my intuitive gifts

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and all of my beautiful genetic differences to this team.
So my eyes have a different structure, which is why
they look funny. My ears as well, and I was
born with medically anomaloists porphyria. For anyone who's not familiar
with that, porphyria is a condition of very very rare

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genetic difference where someone is deathly allergic to the sunlight.
Mine is the rarest of them all because mine is
only triggered by sunlight. So I can have red wines
and dark chocolates, all of that good stuff without having
a porphyic attack. So with all of these things in mind,

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now scientists are coming to see that the differences that
I hold also include brainwave differences. My brain runs on delta, theta,
and alpha brain waves, whereas the typical person around me
runs on mostly beta. My brain waves are said not

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to be able to exist in the way that they do.
So I'm sitting here talking to you consciously. I should
be technically a sleep, in a very deep sleep, and
I'm not. I should be in a trance right now,
but I'm not. All of this is coming together to
help us understand that people with my profile typically can

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see further into the light spectrum, as well as communicate
mentally with seemingly different realms than most people can, and
my ear structure allows me to hear things that are
typically outside of the range of common human hearing. These

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are all great things if you want to go investigate
something spooky. You know they realize this back in the day,
even if they didn't have all the pieces put together.
And so I joined the team as the intuitive and
psychological advisor, and then later took on the term of

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exorcist because I became rather adept at talking with all
parties involved and that includes the demons, the so called demons,
or whoever was there, and then seeing where fact met
fiction from each side, and coming up with a solution

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for all parties involved. Now, the trouble was typically the
human beings didn't want to take the solution, because most
human beings saw themselves as nothing but innocent victims. Interestingly,
though very interestingly, in every case that I worked, I

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found that abuse, neglect, extreme dishonesty, alcoholism, drug abuse, animal abuse,
all of these things, as well as a general egotistical
delusion were present within the victim and or the surrounding
danoly So the demons quote unquote were actually a whole

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lot more helpful and trustworthy than the human parties most
of the time. That said, though, there were a handful
of human families that took my advice and that still
write me occasionally saying, Hey, just want to let you
know we're still doing really well, thank you very much
for helping us, and we're glad that we took your advice.

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I've even passed on my methodology of exorcism to my
husband and a few chosen others, and they've started advising
people and they're reporting back that they also are having
the same success that I had. One person even recently
went on the air on a show to say that

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my husband Rmaeus had recently advised them on how to
handle a situation. Allegedly, this person did exactly as Artimaeis
had advised and the issue was solved. And this person
came on the record to say this. So there's the opening.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
H so interesting. I have a couple of questions about this.
In the most extreme cases, how would the quote unquote
possession manifest itself in a person?

Speaker 3 (27:30):
So I I didn't handle any direct possession cases because.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
It's just not wise. And there are there are indeed.

Speaker 2 (27:42):
So these were more of hauntings, you'd say.

Speaker 3 (27:47):
Uh no, they were put there, Yes they were possessions,
and yes, okay, so it's not quite a black and
white thing.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (28:00):
So typically these cases start off as hauntings and then
they'll progress to possessions. Right, But there's that middle ground
where the non human being is working his her its
way into the person, and that's often where I would

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be called in as far as the explicit possessions and cohabitations.
By the time you get to that point where it's
like a movie style possession.

Speaker 4 (28:40):
It's too late.

Speaker 3 (28:42):
The person who is being possessed to that degree needs serious,
impatient psychological help. They don't need an exorcist. And I
say this, and some others now are coming out to
say this too, because without getting that mental and emotional care,
that person subconsciously gave permission and invitation for that being

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to come in. And there were a lot of cases
where the alleged victim was actually and or the family.
They were getting a lot of attention, support and resources
from the community, and so it turns into a scam.
I hate to say it that way, and yet it

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is the truth. So they don't actually really want the
circus to end because they are getting love, money, time, attention.
People are you know, dropping off baked goods. They're raising
money for them. They've become kind of like a superstar
in the public eye. People make movies about them. And

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the thing is too the demons quote unquote the demons.
A lot of the time, they'll play along with that
because the human being almost always sets the contract, is
how I understand it. So they'll play along with it
because they're still getting fed, they're getting their their energetic nutrients,

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they're getting attention, and they are getting a type of warship.
Believe it or not, what more could they want?

Speaker 4 (30:14):
You know?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
Right, based on your understanding and your experiences, what do
you think we're really dealing with when we say demon?

Speaker 3 (30:29):
It's that's a great question. It's a non human person
who is fulfilling a role. And I know that it
may sound strange, but I've spoken to a lot of
these non human people who consent to play the bad

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guy because it in the long run, somehow is helping
out the human party or the human parties. It might
not be for another five, ten, fifteen, twenty, maybe even
more years, but at some point there is a greater
good that's coming out of it. We can compare this
to even in the Bible. In the Bible, there was

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a point where God allegedly had made a bet with
Satan regarding Job.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Now, if God and Satan are complete.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Enemies, why would God even entertain something like that and
put through put Job in his family through such horrendous
trials and abuse. So it's not as simple as black
white good evil, at least not in my experience and
not in my opinion. And I have seen beautiful things

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come from a handful of these cases.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
Would you say there is an ecosystem of intelligences just
beyond our perception and everything from lower vibrational to extremely
high vibrational beings.

Speaker 3 (32:08):
Nailed it absolutely all the way, yes, And they all
have varying degrees of sentience of ego content, emotional content,
and different ways that they like to present or that
they will present, and how much, how often, how closely
they'll interact with human beings or ego to people. It

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all just depends. There's a stunning variety, in my opinion,
and I think it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
And you would say, within that spectrum, there are some
that intentionally interact with humanity for different reasons, and there
are some that are indifferent and don't care either way.
And then there are some that might feed on us
a little bit, right, Oh exactly.

Speaker 3 (32:57):
Yeah, And even in the so called vampireic sense, that's
not black and white to me either, because I have
met people, not human people who claim that they feed
off of human energy, off of the the emotional energy
that surrounds them.

Speaker 4 (33:16):
But they feed off of.

Speaker 3 (33:19):
Positivity, you could set, off of health, off of happiness
and joy, and so they seek to add to that
for humanity's sake because it also benefits them.

Speaker 2 (33:32):
Right, that's so interesting.

Speaker 4 (33:34):
Yeah, it all just depends.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
I'd love to hear about some of the scientific discoveries
that are being made surrounding you and your genetics.

Speaker 3 (33:47):
Oh sure, sure, goodness, Where to stare? Perhaps a good
A good place would be my eye structure. So a
lot of people notice I have massive lamps, as they
were called back.

Speaker 4 (34:01):
In the day.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
They found that my eyeballs are a bit bigger than
the typical human beings, as are obviously my pupils, my irises,
and then my eye to face ratio I think it
was called, so my eyes open up a lot larger too.

(34:27):
They also found that my eyes have a much thinner
lens than most adults. Kids start to develop the thicker
lens somewhere between around seven to thirteen typically, and this
begins to limit how far they can see into the

(34:49):
light spectrum.

Speaker 4 (34:50):
This is why it's theorized.

Speaker 3 (34:54):
That the younger kids have a lot more of the
paranormal encounters, and they seem to draw a lot more
attention from non human people. And this seems to be
true in part because I have had experiences with non
human people who have quite literally said that to me
as well, that they've seen me. They know that I

(35:16):
can see them, and so they'll walk up to me,
or they'll glide up to me, or they'll they'll poke
out of the wall and say, hey, I know.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
You see me.

Speaker 4 (35:23):
What's up.

Speaker 3 (35:24):
So that's that's one part of it. Another good, good
place that we could talk about is even energy porousness
or energy feeding. One of the experiments that I did
recently with the scientific crew that I work with now

(35:48):
involved an energy healer of course, myself in a pretty
damaged raw state, and then they're scientific machines and when
I first went to them, they measured the light that
was coming.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Out of my body.

Speaker 3 (36:11):
You could say even that this was my aura that
they were measuring over in the UK and whatnot. This
machine is just part of medical diagnoses in general, because
it seems to be so very accurate at measuring organ
health and the strength of your light emissions, those kinds

(36:31):
of things. I was measured and my reading was actually
so sickly that the scientists said, I'm actually very worried
about you. You need to get medical care. And I
had to explain to him, I know I have porphyria.
I've been very sick for most of my life and

(36:51):
I'm still recovering. And then I went next door because
we were at a giant convention and I wasn't planning
on making this an experiment. By the way, this just
unfolded as it did, which I think is even better.
Right next door to his booth was an energy healer,

(37:14):
and I felt drawn to her. There was just something
about her that I really wanted to connect with, and
I introduced to myself and I asked her for a
healing session. It blew my mind because the things that
she was describing as she was working on me, I
have never seen a human being be able to do.

(37:36):
I've only heard of this methodology from non human people
saying that this is what they do in other places
to heal their peoples. So as she was healing me,
I was talking to her and I was getting her backstory,
and she said, you know, it's so funny that you
say what you're saying right now, because this methodology was

(37:56):
gifted to me from elsewhere. So we went through the
session and I felt fantastic, and I went back to
the machine and I got my measurements done again and
the readings blew the scientist Paul's mind. Almost every single

(38:21):
gap was filled in, and my organs were measurably functioning
at much higher efficiency than they were just fifteen twenty
minutes before then. So he was studying my results and
the screenshots, and he came to the conclusion that some

(38:43):
people are incredibly sensitive to social energy, energetic energy, just energy,
especially perhaps trauma or drama, anything of that nature. And
he came to the conclusion that my our results are
the best that he's ever seen for the argument that

(39:03):
quantum healing medicine is.

Speaker 4 (39:05):
Real, that.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Energy poorous people aka you could say energy vampires do exist,
and that quantum healing could be the future of human medicine,
at least to some degree.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Wow, is there any upcoming studies that you're going to
be involved with?

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yes, we are supposed to be meeting up next month,
believe it or not. He was so impressed that he
was asking to meet with us again and conduct more studies,
and we're going to make that happen more towards the
end of the month.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Wow. Beyond that, any idea what they're going to be
focusing on.

Speaker 4 (39:52):
I don't know. He hasn't told me yet.

Speaker 3 (39:55):
He wants it to be a surprise, because we want
to make sure that we're not skewing the data, you
know what I mean, if possible, especially because a lot
of the time it seems like there are tons of
electrical misfirings around me. And I know that Artemais had
talked a little bit with you about that before, and

(40:15):
so try us a.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Little bit about that. I may not remember or may
not have heard that.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
Oh, absolutely well, it really it depends on perhaps a
lot of different factors, and of course I don't have
all of the answers. But a lot of the time electricity,
I'm sorry, a lot of the time electric objects will
either work outstandingly well or extremely poorly.

Speaker 4 (40:43):
Around me.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
There are a lot of electrical glitches. Sometimes lights even
will flicker on and off. Circuits have been blown out,
circuits have been exchanged within the houses. There's just been
a ton to be honest with you, and it's pretty common.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
The most recent one, armais, was filming a show with
someone and I came home. At the beginning of the show.
They were having a lot of trouble connecting with each
other with their devices for some reason. But the moment
that I stepped through the door. She said that it
just sounded like he was suddenly right there in the

(41:27):
room with her, getting a perfectly clear signal, whereas before
it sounded as though, in her own words, he was
in another dimension.

Speaker 2 (41:38):
Yeah, going back to non human intelligences, would you say
that there is a fundamental difference between what we are
understanding is extraterrestrials that come in crafts from different planets.
Is there a difference between that and what we're experiencing
with inner dimensional beings, angels, fairies, or is it all

(42:03):
sort of the same thing that just presents in different ways.

Speaker 3 (42:09):
That's that's my understanding, but I could always be wrong.
Every time I've ever talked to a non human person
about all of this stuff, a fair number of them
have told me that the et hypothesis is at best
a prank and at worst a control mechanisms.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
And yeah, so what they told.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Me is that there there is a fair number of
people human and otherwise, in the media, in the government,
in the government families, the traditional ones, and even in
the scientific and the pharmacological families that are deeply invested
in in peddling this narrative that all or most non

(42:58):
human people live in so called outer space and are
coming from light years away, because this helps to also
further the narrative that we live in a material world,
and it's linked into toxic capitalism and in pharmacology and.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Essentially a slave society.

Speaker 3 (43:24):
So for me, everyone that I have ever met has
told me outright that they either come from right above
where we live here on the surface, so in the
immediate sky, or they're here on a more delicate overlay.

(43:45):
For the most part, they're in a slightly different dimension,
but they are organic to Earth right along with human beings,
and that makes perfect sense to me, you know, And
even like the et hypothesis, why would these people be
coming from trillions of miles away to muddle in human

(44:05):
affairs unless it was something more nefarious.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
That's just my take on it, because.

Speaker 3 (44:12):
Otherwise wouldn't they be busy living their own lives and
enjoying what they have going on. I mean, that's just
how I that's just how I see it. I could
be totally and completely wrong, So I don't know, but
what you exactly where I am leaning as well.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
I think that for sure there is an ecosystem of
his intelligences just beyond our perception and different which you
might call realms or dimensions. And I think that whatever
these intelligences are have the power to become anything they
want to present themselves as to in a sense hijack

(44:52):
our consciousness. Maybe not in a negative sense, but they
can change our perception in an instant and if they
want to, they can make us. I think that we're
on a craft of some kind. But I agree, I
don't think that there are extraterrestrial beings coming from different
galaxies to mess with us and stick probes in our
butts and things like that. I think they would have

(45:14):
better things to be doing.

Speaker 4 (45:17):
Yeah, yeah, okay, cool.

Speaker 3 (45:19):
I'm glad we're on the same page with that, because
a lot of people get really upset when I give
my experience and my understanding because they are so emotionally
and socially and sometimes financially invested in that et hypothesis.
And like, okay, with my neurodivergence, I tend to be
a pretty Even though I try to be extremely polite

(45:41):
and very loving and kind, I still am extremely logical.
So I'll ask what a lot of people would call
cold questions, and back when I was doing interviews, on
my own channel. I would ask people who were making
these claims. I would say, Okay, how.

Speaker 4 (45:59):
Do you know?

Speaker 3 (46:01):
And there were a lot of them that got really
upset with me and would refuse to work with me
after that, not because I was being unkind, but simply
because I was trying to logically examine what they were
saying and compare it to my own experience so that
I could get a grander understanding. So they would take
deep offense to that.

Speaker 2 (46:19):
Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty sad the reaction you get from
people who are invested in some of those theories. But
more and more, I think we're going to start to
become aware that our reality alone has so much more
than we could ever understand, just beyond the surface. Give

(46:42):
us a synopsis of your book. I know it's based
off of your experiences, but tell us how it's presented.

Speaker 4 (46:50):
Ah, yes, the fun stuff, all right.

Speaker 3 (46:53):
So Tails from the Rift is presented in kind of
like a print.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
Format.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
I walk you through the seasons and the holidays, starting
with spring and Easter all the way through Halloween, and
then of course Autumn and the winter holidays and the
New Year, and each season has four different tales to it.
There are twelve tales there, plus a few extra bonuses,

(47:25):
and some of them are really sweet love stories between
human and non human people.

Speaker 4 (47:33):
Some of them are kind of like.

Speaker 3 (47:37):
Eternal friendship stories between human and non human people, and
then some of them are what a lot of people
would just call outright horror stories. Then there are also
a few choose your own ending adventure chapters as well
lots of different ways that all of this can be interpreted.
And really, these are just stories that are meant to

(47:59):
reflect just a fraction of my own experiences as well
as some of the experiences that have been reported to
me over the years from people that I have known, vetted,
and trusted. But mostly yeah, these are essentially non human
stories about humankind.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
You said this is going to be an ongoing series.

Speaker 4 (48:23):
Oh yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:25):
The very first volume is coming out on October first,
and it's available for pre order as of literally today.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
For everyone writing the description as well.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Perfect. Yeah, the digital pre order is available, but then
it's going to be available in paperback and hardcover as well,
And if anyone's interested, I'm offering customized autographed hardcover copies too,
And if anyone's interested, please message me. I'll be more
than happy to get you set up with that. But

(48:58):
beyond that, yes, the.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
Excuse me.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
The next continuation of that is going to be coming
in late spring of next year, and it's going to
be a collection of stories that are all about summertime.

Speaker 2 (49:15):
For the last few minutes, I'd love to get your
thoughts on where the collective consciousness is as it relates
to our consciousness evolution, if there is an awakening occurring
across the planet, because for the past five six or

(49:36):
more years, the events in our reality have shaken a
lot of people to question more than they ever have,
and it's also causing a lot of chaos. Some people
don't know how to navigate the revelations that are coming
out right now. What are your thoughts on how everything

(49:59):
is unfolding and why and what is happening with human consciousness.

Speaker 3 (50:06):
I really appreciate that question because I like to say
that my specialty is existential therapy. This is something that
I've had to contend with just time and time again,
whether it's been working with Artimaeus on his paranormal awakening
journey or people that I've helped in the past in

(50:27):
and outside of the exorcism cases.

Speaker 4 (50:31):
A lot of these base truths.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Are truly traumatizing for a lot of egoed people to
understand or to accept. And when I say ego, I'm
not talking about in the narcissistic sense necessarily, I'm talking
about in the clinical sense. The ego is what gives
the human brain and the human animal structure.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
That's what gives.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
Someone an internal world. It's based on off of the
stories that the person tells him or herself.

Speaker 4 (51:05):
All throughout life.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
And if you can imagine, then let's say that we
have a religious person, a Christian as is very common here,
who believes that anything that is outside of his or
her Christian religion is automatically evil, quote unquote and out
to get humankind. But then let's just say, what if

(51:31):
disclosure does happen. What if that person then meets a kind, beautiful, loving,
non human person who doesn't follow the chosen religion of
that human being. That's going to shatter that person's paradigm
and quite possibly cause a lot of mental, social, emotional harm,

(51:52):
maybe even physical harm, because if someone is shocked too
much emotionally, it can cause damage to the organs. It
can even cause like a heart attack, you know, scare
someone to death, for example, that said, I think we.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Should and again this is just my opinion.

Speaker 3 (52:13):
I think that we should move slowly and for the
most part, allow ego to people to lead the way
with steps that they are comfortable with, even if that
means that plenty of loving kind non human people are

(52:37):
villainized and demonized in the meanwhile. Because this is a
lot to swallow. And if someone's listening to your show,
I feel okay saying this because I think that they
can handle it. In my experience, we live in a
deeply mixed society of hybrids, human people, non human people,

(53:03):
people who have very delicate non human bodies, people who
are incredibly strong, robust, you know, Superman, you could even
call them. People who have glamour abilities, shape shifting abilities,
you know, people who can even summon objects from thin air,
people who can teleport, levitate. So this is my experience,

(53:27):
this is my understanding, and I think that your audience
can handle it. But the wider population, I sincerely don't
think that they are ready for this. And I love
social media because it allows me to keep essentially my
finger on the pulse of how people with more ego

(53:47):
content are experiencing all of this, and it seems like
every other day I'm seeing videos of people religious and
not that are freaking out over the possibility that aliens
are coming, or that fairies are about, or that people
who who don't have to wear makeup, who have a

(54:09):
different kind of cosmetic ability exist, And I think it's
just it's a very delicate situation right now. And although
I think we are on the verge of some kind
of awakening, I think that there are many different timelines
and groups at play, and I think that every journey

(54:29):
is different, and I'm just just here for the ride
at this point. I support everyone in every journey, no
matter what they may think, feel, believe. I I'm just
here to help walk everyone home because I see everyone
as my brothers and my sisters, no matter who they are.

Speaker 4 (54:50):
Yeah. I answer all of your questions. I hope I
remembered everything that you would ask me.

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Are you optimistic about the direction that you see things
headed right now?

Speaker 4 (55:01):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (55:02):
Man, I like the way you think, But goodness, that's
a tough one for me.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
At least. It really depends.

Speaker 3 (55:11):
It really depends. Again, it's not a black and white answer,
you know. I work with some people that I think
are absolutely fantastic, and like yourself, they're willing to hear
me out, they're willing to examine with cold logic and
step out of their.

Speaker 4 (55:32):
Own ego for a while.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Or maybe they're lower eco content like me. I don't know.
And so we make these beautiful things happen together, and
we forward disclosure together, and we love each other and
we trust each other and whatnot. But then there are
other people that I've tried to work with that they're
set on seeing me and seeing people like me as

(55:54):
evil no matter what. And so they and these are
some very big names, and they are pushing society in
a completely different way, and they're just there. They're pushing
more division, They're they're pushing more genetic dividing, and they

(56:16):
may not realize it.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
They're not they're not forwarding love the way that they
think that they are.

Speaker 3 (56:23):
They are living in a state of fear, ego and
in some ways delusion, and they can't realize it because
of that higher ego content. And so no matter what
is done, there are always going to be people who
split off into one of those two camps. And I'm
fascinated to see how all of this plays out, But

(56:45):
am I hopeful? It's just it's a case by case spaces.
Every person is an individual.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Would you say that it's fair to say that what
we focus on in our individual lives, if we are
projecting positivity and love, that for the most part, that
is what will experience in our lives.

Speaker 3 (57:08):
Exactly. Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. And this is part
of what even the demons told me. They said that
most non human people learn and grow by being a
mirror to human people, to people who have high ego content,
moderate to high ego content. That makes perfect sense to me,

(57:31):
and so there's a wide variety of how these non
human people will show up and interact with human people,
but it's safe to say that for the most part,
I would say about eighty to ninety percent of the time,
if a human being or a generally egoed person has

(57:52):
done their shadow work, they're taking.

Speaker 4 (57:53):
Personal responsibility for themselves.

Speaker 3 (57:55):
Their families, their homes, their pets, their financial health, health
and especially their dietary concerns, and their community. Overall, they're
going to be drawing in the energy that they're putting out.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
And so.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
The loving giving non human people tend to see that
in my experience and want to reward it. Or they
will find human beings or more egoed people who are
at a crossroads and they will offer that person some
kind of gift, knowledge, or deal, And how that human

(58:34):
being or that egoed person reacts is how the timeline
and the relationship will unfold, for you know, better or
for worse. So human beings and people who do have
higher ego content, they actually have a lot more control
than what is typically taught. And this is part of

(58:55):
why actually I left the Catholic Church.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
You'd say, more often than we have a symbiotic relationship
with these beings, whether we know it or not. We're
granting permissions, we're granting access, and we may not even
be aware of it, for better or worse.

Speaker 3 (59:12):
Right, Yes, yeah, absolutely absolutely, And even something as simple
as how someone speaks, this is it's a constant battering
point between the two groups of people. So when I'm
talking to ego to people, I change my language. I

(59:35):
will sometimes allow myself to say, oh, that's so cool,
or we're doing something.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Great or beautiful together.

Speaker 3 (59:43):
But that's an ego judgment that I'm just using to
try to convey something generally regarded as positive and encouraging
to the ego to person. When I, however, speak to
non human people, I speak explicitly and factually, separating opinion

(01:00:03):
and fact clearly and concisely, because that is how they speak.
It's very contractual in that way. So, and this gets
more into the ego. If an egoed person can slow
down their speech and snap judgment, that will go a
long way in creating healthy, happy, human to non human relationships.

(01:00:28):
This is also why a lot of the stories of
the fae mingling with human beings didn't work out. And
if we look at those old stories, the vast majority
of the time what happened is that the human being
broke a promise, broke an explicit agreement, betrayed that person,

(01:00:51):
caused them harm, and then went back to the human
community whining and crying about how the non human person
hurt them, but not taking any responsibility for their role
in it.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
Does that make sense?

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
It makes me think of an experience one of my
friends had recently where they were out in a national
forest area and I believe they took something from there
that they shouldn't have, and they had a hitchhiker followed
them home and torment them for months until they returned

(01:01:23):
the object that they had taken from that area. And
I understand this happens quite often.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
It does, yes, oh absolutely, And this is why I
advise all human beings to tread with respect and never
take anything that is not already in your domestic environment
and that does not belong to you. This is also
a part of why people ego to people go missing

(01:01:52):
when picking mushrooms or berries. Like, I can't say a
lot about what I know, I'm going to be publishing
some of that in a book in I think it's
coming out this winter with Malcolm Robinson over in the UK.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Yeah, but if you go into the.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
Forest as an egoed person, I would like to advise
you to be extremely respectful. Don't go in there blasting music.
Please don't take your dog especially, do not take your pets.
Do not be loud, do not litter, and do not
take anything that you don't have permission to take. Also,

(01:02:40):
stay on the trails. If there is a trail, it
is there for your use. Please don't wander off of
it because you never know who you're going to find
and you never know what kind of peace treaties are
at play and with whom, and in the forest as well.
There are some wild peace peoples that I have met

(01:03:02):
that have even more ego content than the average human being,
and they will absolutely outwit you at your own ego games.

Speaker 2 (01:03:13):
I actually i'd love to get your thoughts on this
before we close out. I had a guess recently that
was saying some very similar things about the elementals and
beings in nature that there may be some sort of
human hunting license that is at play here, some kind

(01:03:38):
of regulations for taking people from these areas. Have you
heard anything about this?

Speaker 3 (01:03:46):
Yeah? Wow, I've heard about this from several angles, human
and non human alike, and that's something I plan on
exploring more in my upcoming Tales books. And you know,
a lot of people here anyways. They've called me paranoid
or insane because I say these things. But we have

(01:04:10):
lots of proof seemingly of this being a phenomenon. You know,
little kids, for example, they might be taken, but they're
typically returned. There's a friendly wolf or a friendly bear
that keeps them warm, feeds them berries, and then returns them.
Adults don't tend to be as lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
I wonder why that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
Might be Tilly, this was fascinating. Thank you so much.
We'll definitely have to do this again. I know there's
so much more we can get to before I let
you go. Remind the audience how they can find out
more about you and let them know if you have
anything upcoming that you'd like to share.

Speaker 4 (01:04:49):
Oh my pleasure. Thank you. Well.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
You can connect with Artemais and I on Facebook just
search Tilly Treadwell. You can also find us on YouTube
if you search the Weird Walk Home.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
That is our channel. Right now, he is in the
middle of.

Speaker 3 (01:05:05):
A diary vlog style series where he catalogs all of
his different paranormal experiences and his personal growth journey with
me over the last decade that we've been together. He
talks about his experiences with mimics and the Egyptian gods,
the Fay shadow people, and so very much more.

Speaker 4 (01:05:26):
You might really enjoy that. He's also thinking about writing
up a book.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
About his own experiences, and further evidence or proof might
be involved in the publishing of that book, but you'll
have to stay tuned. Aside from that, we're going to
be sharing the stage at the Cosmic Contact conference that's
going to be in January. We're going to be heading
over to Maryland for that one that's January tenth and eleventh.

(01:05:54):
We're going to be vending there too, so you'll be
able to purchase recent editions of the magazine where I'm published,
as well as my books. Tales from the Riff will
be included in that, plus our Weird Time Book and
then other wonderful volumes from the publisher. I'll also be
selling my organic, handmade small batch dessert tease. You'll be

(01:06:19):
on tap for sample there as well, and some very
special candles that I'm working on. I might even do
some energy work and Tarot card reading for guests if
I'm physically feeling up to it. We'll be speaking also
at the twenty twenty six Full Disclosure Now Conference. We
officially got that all set up and cleared as of August. Yes,

(01:06:43):
let me see what else? Oh, I have a brand
new blog that or block that I'm starting up with
Eerie Expedition's magazine that's going to be called How I
Met Your Monster Awesome, and that'll be coming out on
October first as well. And if you're into something spooky.
For anyone who has heard of Jeff the talking mongoose in.

Speaker 4 (01:07:05):
The October edition.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
Yeah, in the October edition of Eerie Expeditions magazine, I
delve into that from an exorcists point of view. You're
not gonna want to miss that. I think that about
covers it for now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
Excellent, Tilly, thank you so much. Like I said, we'll
definitely have to do this again. And until next time, everyone,
have a wonderful evening. We will talk again Tomorrow's yelled
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