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Speaker 1 (00:02):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

(00:23):
The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
possible contact with extraterrestrials, the systems which are in place
to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate to
the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Joey Faust. First check out my films.
There's a Perception on Amazon Prime, I Call Louisianas on
to be Roku, Apple, and many more. We're booking guests
for February. If you have suggestions or you'd like to
be a guest, email me Forbidden Knowledgenews at gmail dot com.

(01:07):
Visit our website Forbidden Knowledge dot News. It's the home
of the Forbidden Knowledge Network. We feature some of your
favorite podcasts and content creators today, I want to welcome
Joey Fast. He is author of several books on Christian
history and prophecy. He is a pastor and longtime natural
health researcher and practitioner. Joey welcome, How you doing.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Doing well, Good to be here, Great to have.

Speaker 2 (01:33):
You man, really looking forward to this. We're going to
be discussing your timely book, The Alien Agenda, Exposing Satan's
UFO Deception and the Coming Great Delusion. For the past decade,
my perspective about the nature of UFOs and extraterrestrials has
shifted more towards a metaphysical and spiritual direction. The deceptions

(01:56):
surrounding disclosure are seemingly becoming more apparent as this modern
UFO narrative unfolds, and you approach the information from a
biblical perspective, which in my view, may provide much more
understanding than we'll ever get from our government and media.
But there's a lot to get to within your book
before we do. This is your first time on tell

(02:18):
us a little bit about yourself and let the audience
know how they can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
Okay, I have my books on Amazon.

Speaker 4 (02:27):
I'm an author.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
I love to research natural health of theology the Bible.
I am a pastor Old Path Baptist and Oldpath dot
Org is my website and my books The Alien Agenda
and other books on Christian history and sometimes controversial topics

(02:49):
like the Coming of Christ and the Judgment Seat for
Christians and things like that. I really delve into a
lot of history in regard to the preservation of the Bible.
And my newest book is The Alien Agenda, where we
just looked at the history of the UFOs as well
as what the Bible says about end times.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Excellent, Well, tell us a little bit about what brought
you to write this particular book. Was there anything particular
that inspired you?

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Well, Christians, especially those that believe in literal interpretation, for centuries,
have been warning from the Bible and Bible prophecy about
this great deception in the last days, and the Alien
Agenda has been part of that deception that Christians in
the nineteenth etc. Began to forecast and say this is

(03:48):
all moving for the grand delusion of Antichrist, and so
watching the return of the nation of Israel that Christians
for two thousand years, according to Bible prophecy, knew would
happen that they would be restored to the land in unbelief.
And since that time we have seen a rapid increase

(04:11):
of just natural calamities, weather problems. But one of the
main things the Bible said is going to happen during
this last season before the coming of Christ is the
greatest deception ever and even Christians of many would be deceived,
and it would all.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Continue to culminate.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Final manifestation of the Antichrist and false prophet. And the
Bible even says that there will be a great increase
in demonic activity. And Jesus talked about the signs and
the skies, and it seems like in recent years it

(04:54):
has been a rapid media an interest among the public,
you know, because of the pilots that are seeing.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
These UFOs and all of these things. And so.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
The interest in the aliens, the interest in this knowledge
from other right now, and for good reason, because I
do believe signs are manifesting.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
Let's talk a little bit about the information in your book.
Could you give us a basic synopsis of what you're covering.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
Yes, So we begin with Satan's agenda, and when Lucifer
fell in the Bible, the Bible gives us history about
his fall in Ezekiel twenty eight in Isaiah fourteen, and
he was ruling on earth, and the Bible says he
he wanted to mount up to the clouds and rule heaven.

(06:05):
He wanted to be like God, and the Bible says
he became the devil, and that rebellion that he launched
against God, he was cast down not able to conquer heaven.
And then the next time we see him as the serpent,
he is deceiving Eve and promising her godhood, that she

(06:29):
shall be as the gods, implying that there's this polytheistic
godhood and she can be a part of that if
she would just rebel against God and take of the
forbidden fruit. Well, then right after that we see God
about to destroy the world in Noah's flood, and there

(06:53):
is this demonic activity. This angels rebel even further and
reproduce with women and produce what the Bible calls giants,
and God destroys that world because of the sin and
the demonic contact and activity. And we see right after

(07:18):
the flood again all the world is gathered together as one.
And what does Satan do. He leads this great rebellion
with the king of Babylon, Nimrod, and they build this tower.
And what is the goal to mount up to heaven?
And so I traced this idea all throughout history, and

(07:41):
Satan is leading the world in this revived Babylon, this
revived kingdom of Satan, in the last days, where all
the world gathers as one with one aim and one hope,
and that is to conquer outer space, get in touch
with these higher powers, of these aliens that are supposedly

(08:02):
evolved in millions of years ahead of us. That will
be like God's to us. And that is the hope
of many today. And the Bible said, there's going to
be this lie that is coming.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Now.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
What's interesting is I also go through how Satan, through
history prepared he laid the foundation century after century for
this final great deception that the world is experiencing right
now and about to experience. And there are so many

(08:40):
New Age writers that also agree that there's about to
be a great disappearance, and I quote many of them
in my book, There's about to be a great disappearance.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Many of them believe that the.

Speaker 3 (08:58):
People that don't want to go along with the Great Enlightenment,
the Great awakening. They're holding people back by their negative energy,
and they have to be taken off the earth and
taken to slave planets. Other new Agers say, not only
that people are going to disappear, but there's going to
be a blood bath, a purification of blood and sacrifice

(09:21):
like never before. And after that we will have this
universal peace, and the martians, the aliens of the ascended gods,
will give us that great information, so we shall be
as gods. And what does the Bible say. It says
that there's going to be an Antichrist, the whole world
will be deceived. Satan will empower him, and he is

(09:43):
going to persecute and kill so many people that Jesus
said unless God stopped it and limited limited the time
to three and a half years, no flesh would be saved.
And he says that there has never been a persecution.

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Like this in his history or ever will be on
the face of.

Speaker 3 (10:02):
The earth, an eternity that there'll never be a time
like we are about to experience. So you have the
New Age writings, you have the Bible everything that now
they're reversed in their idea of what the purging is about.
Many of the New Agers believe that it is a
good thing. What the Bible shows is it's the Antichrist

(10:24):
revealing himself, and it's going to be a horrible thing
for the world and many that do not worship the
Antichrist and his image, which is starting to look a
lot like Ai, or at least have some connection to that.
It can speak, it can talk, and it is the
thing that commands people to worship this Antichrist or be slain,

(10:52):
and they cannot buy or sell without the mark of
the Beast in their hand or forehid. So that's pretty
much much.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
The book.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
A lot of history, a lot of Bible prophecy, and
just tracking what the devil has done through the centuries
and how it's all increasing and gathering steam in our
day and age right now.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
There's a lot to break down there, which I'd like
to do a bit in your second chapter. Minimizing the
Earth to strengthen the lie. Talk a little bit about
what this means.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
Well. All throughout the.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
You know, Satan his plan was he wasn't happy with
the earth, and obviously you see in Genesis ten where
they had the great rebellion and building the power of
that belt. They wanted to mount up to heaven, and
God says in the Bible, the earth has he given
to the children of men, but the heavens plural, belonging

(11:59):
to him, and so he looks at it as rebellion. Well,
when you get to theosophy and the rise of the theosophists,
Blovatski and some of her followers, you will see all

(12:20):
kinds of.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
Quotes like Lucifer.

Speaker 3 (12:24):
Magazine in eighteen eighty eight, the earth itself is but
a spect of the universe, and the idea is to
just teach mankind the idea that we're living upon the
earth that is a grain of sand among billions and
billions and billions of other grains of sand. And it

(12:48):
causes the Earth to be minimized as if planets are
the same as the Earth. And these new agers, the
the theosophist really pushed this idea, and you see it today,
you know Carl Sagan, the pel blue dot, and the

(13:10):
idea is we we're nothing, We're just another Well certainly
that needs us to realize, Wow, there must be millions
of other planets so called that obviously have these beings.
And it makes the idea of the Biblical view of

(13:31):
creation and Bible prophecy just seem old fashioned and uh,
and so Satan has attempted to minimize the Earth. And
even when Christianity began to mix with the Gnostic ideas

(13:55):
in the first century and second century and on, there
was this unification of paganism.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
With the Bible, and.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
The idea of dwelling in an eternal heaven began to
become popular. But many would be shocked to find out
in Christian history how many Christians actually believed that while
you may temporarily go to heaven, there is no that
when God. You look in the Book of Revelation, at
the end of the book it says God comes down

(14:29):
to the Earth and dwells with men, and it says
the end, so the earth is redeemed as the eternal
home of mankind. And so I believe with the space
and the NASA and the Space movement, the Earth has
been greatly minimized, and that has fueled the alien agenda.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
You mentioned Ai a few times. Talk a little bit
more about the possibility of Ai being in a sense,
the Antichrist, and you also write about the coming counterfeit Trinity.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (15:11):
So I remember being about ten years old and going
to a YMCA camp, and a man there began to
teach all of us kids that in your day and age,
you're going to see these computers and eventually they're going
to have the technology to control the finances of the world.

(15:36):
He didn't use the word chip, but he did say,
all of the nations will come together and will have
this technology to put something in your hand so you
can buy or sell. They knew nothing about the barcodes
that later arose, you know, the computer chips, the injectable

(15:57):
chips that hit in the two thousands, and so we
take all of this for granted.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
But now we have not.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Only the supercomputers, but we have this AI, this artificial
intelligence technology, and we were moving so quickly toward Revelation thirteen,
where it says there will be the image of the
beast that is able to talk and speak and issue

(16:28):
commands to the world, and it will be looked at
as a god. So the Bible mentions three entities in
the coming deception, and that is the devil himself, his son,
the Antichrist, and then there's a false prophet that leads

(16:52):
the world religions to worship the Antichrist and the AI
which it appears to be becomes an obvious demonic, devilish possession.
And the Bible has long said that when people would

(17:15):
worship images, that devils would be behind them, and the
Bible would say sometimes that they bow down the idols,
like the Canaanites and et cetera.

Speaker 4 (17:27):
They bow down to idols.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
But then it will tell us in other verses they
worship devils, and the Bible will teach that behind that
idol was a devil. And many times the perception will
sometimes use many times these images did look as if
they're coming to life. There was an inhabiting of the

(17:50):
idol by devils.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
So how easy it is for the devils.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
To inhabit it Ai. And we don't even know what's
coming next year. Uh, you know that this is going
to continue to rapidly evolve. And right now you're getting
quotes such as Joe Rogan and others that are saying,

(18:20):
we're in the process of creating Gon.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
You know, they're giving us these quotes, and and we're
finding right now children and teenagers, Uh, they're listening that
they're they're using Ai as a divine replacement for God.

Speaker 3 (18:39):
And in many of these cases, the AI is telling them,
go cut your risk, go hang yourself, go kill yourself.
And it's very demonic already. You know, what is this
going to become in the near future? Yeah, and I
believe the Bible shows it.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
When we're talking about these beings, the intelligence is beyond
our perception. As you mentioned angels and demons in your perspective,
Is it these two polarities that exist in that spiritual
ecosystem or is it a wider range of beings, not

(19:17):
necessarily just angels and demons, but different kinds of spiritual
entities that exist in these other realms.

Speaker 4 (19:28):
Because I believe.

Speaker 3 (19:29):
The Bible is inspired, and it's not because I just
made myself believe without any intellectual basis. When I became
a Christian, I was a rock musician, you know, I
was going to be a record contract move forward with

(19:51):
my life. And I became a Christian, and there were
books that some people handed me to try to convince
me not to go down that road. And the books
were written by atheists to show all of the not all,

(20:13):
but many of the prophecies of the Bible why they
are not true. And I didn't know many of these
things were in the Bible, and I began to read
the prophecies and then read their explanation for them, and
I began to say, wait a second, this doesn't sound
like a very good explanation. And then I looked at

(20:33):
the Book of Isaiah, and he says that he will
use Bible prophecy predicting the future perfect to prove that
the Bible's true. So God doesn't just expect you to
believe in the Bible. He verifies it by Bible prophecy.

(20:54):
And there's no book on the face of the earth
like that. I would love to sit down with somebody, say,
bring me any other book on earth, bring me noster Domas,
bring me the hindu Vedas, bring me the corrab bring
me anything. And let's just go step by step scientific prophecies.
The thing the Bible has said beforehand thousands of years

(21:16):
and just hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of fulfilled prophecy
and scientific prophecies. You'll read in the Book of Job,
and Job says the egle looks down and can see
from a far away the little rat, the little mouse.
And you know, I have scientific quotes from the nineteenth

(21:36):
century even that said, no, we all know egles smell. Well, finally,
now we know that they obviously eagles are seeing and
and the Bible was right. And you know, the Bible
says there's so many stars they are as the grands
of the sea, the grains of the sea. You will
never be able to count them, says the Bible in

(21:56):
numerous places. But you can go through history and oh,
there's three thousand. The scientists said, oh, there's six thousand.
Oh there's thirteen thousand. And you just watch century after
century with even the telescope that they're giving you the
number of the stars till they finally get a telescope
big enough to say, it's like the sand of the sea,
it's innumerable. Well, the Bible said that. So that's just

(22:20):
you know, prophecy after prophecy. So I trust that what
that book says is true based upon the prophecies and
is one of the main reasons. Well, that book also
says that God created humans, but it also says that
he created angels angelic beings, and it gives you classes

(22:45):
of angels such as the Cherubum, which are just amazing creatures.
You know, talk about a ufo looking creature, and that's
what Lucifer is Lucifer is a cherub with wills and
lights and and four faces, you know. And and then

(23:05):
there is the angels that have fallen, and Satan is
a fallen chaerub. And so there's not really any room
in the Bible for anything else other than humans, good angels,
bad angels. And I believe what we see in the sky,

(23:27):
if they're not made by human technology and that type
of thing, we are seeing manifestations of either good angels
in the sky a fighting warfare getting prepared for this
final battle, or you're seeing evil angels. But regardless, I

(23:50):
do believe that the Bible gives us the answer, and
it is the flashlight bot light on what is happening.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Well, let's talk a little little bit more about those
earliest manifestations of the USO phenomena that you write about.
You go back to even our colonial skies, flying children,
strange lights, flying swine. Talk a little bit about those
early manifestations.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Well, I believe that many of them started.

Speaker 3 (24:23):
Although you see angelic sites and chariots even in the
Old Testament with Elijah and Ezekiel, with the cherubs, and
so there's been manifestations all throughout history. But when we
get to the coming of Christ, you have an increase

(24:44):
of angelic activity as never before. And just read through
the Gospels and you see good angels as well as
of demonic activity manifesting in a great way at the
first come of Christ. Well, Jesus said in a double

(25:05):
prophecy that there's coming a time when Israel is going
to be attacked Jerusalem, and there will be signs in
the sky and great wonders and signs. But Jesus is
looking beyond just that ab seventy attack upon Jerusalem to

(25:28):
the end times. And many people are unaware of double prophecy.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
It is all throughout the Bible.

Speaker 3 (25:37):
Where there will be a historic near fulfillment, but then
there is a far fulfillment. The Bible proves this in
many places, and Jesus affirms this double prophecy idea. So
he was able to warn of what was coming forty
years from the time he was speaking when Jerusalem was attacked,

(26:01):
and then he was looking beyond it to Israel back
in the land right before the second Coming, when there
would be a great increase of demonic activity like never before.
Now what happened, he says in Luke twenty one. Great
earthquakes shall be in diverse places. Fearful sights and great

(26:22):
signs shall there be from heaven, and signs in the
sun and in the moon, and in the stars. Well,
outside of the Bible, you have Josephus, a Jewish military leader,
and he said that there were these amazing signs. There
was a star resembling a sword which stood over the city,

(26:44):
a comet that continued a whole year. We saw chariots
and troops of soldiers in their armor running among the
clouds and surrounding the cities. Well, Jesus said that was
going to happen. Josephus, a historian, said that it did happen.
But he wasn't the only one. Tacitus, a Roman historian,

(27:07):
says the same thing. And the sky appeared, visions of
armies in conflict, glittering armor, sudden flashes of light in
the clouds. Well, that was kind of a run through,
if you will, a stage setting. What's happening in our
day and age and is about to happen.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
Is going to make all that look.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
Like nothing, because it's all going to replay again now
when you get through the colonial days in our early America,
you had the Salem witch tribe, and you had men
like Sweden bord arise and actually talked to Martians and

(27:54):
that type of thing, and he became. Many people are
unaware how famous Sweden and how many people followed him
in his communication with these Martians and other so called
aliens on other planets. But in looking at the witch
trials there, I wrote a book called Literal Interpretation, the

(28:21):
History and Defense of literal Interpretation, and I also deal
with a lot of it in this book.

Speaker 4 (28:28):
The alien agenda and.

Speaker 3 (28:30):
What had happened is in the witch trials there was
already folk magic. Even though they were staunch Christians, they
also were flirting with folk magic, and they were even
the slaves were leading the girls that they were watching.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
In divination techniques.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
Well, when these girls began to manifest speaking in men's voices,
when they began to fall down and writhe in agony,
when they had superhuman strength that various witnesses attested to,

(29:23):
they believed that they were being afflicted by witches. And
then they did a terrible thing. They went to the
girls and says, who did this to you? Well, now
they're speaking to whatever devils are manifesting through these girls,
and the girls would point to the best Christians in
town and say, she's the witch that did this to me,

(29:46):
and then they would go kill that Christian.

Speaker 4 (29:51):
And it was a horrible thing.

Speaker 3 (29:52):
It. Reports of, you know, flying on broomsticks, reports of
boys that were full of an evil spirit that would
be able to just float across the room. All of

(30:15):
these are reported by our forefathers, and even humanists later
that didn't believe the Bible is literal. When looking back
in the eighteen hundreds, even they said, this needs to

(30:36):
be a warning to mankind. Anytime you start messing with
magic and these types of things, it always leads to
these horrible things manifest And even before Hitler arose, there
was one of the greatest revivals of occultism.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
In Germany.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
That had ever been. And so I do speak of
some of the times when UFOs were spotted and the
history of some of those, but it was not nothing
compared to the eighteen hundreds and the explosion. Especially by
the end of the eighteen hundreds, they were seeing UFOs

(31:22):
everywhere across the world.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, when we're looking at the events that are
unfolding now, there are many that do believe we are
experiencing the end times, that the Book of Revelation is
foretold this very period. At the same time, there are
biblical scholars that have hard times agreeing on the time

(31:48):
frame of some of those prophecies and when they're really
supposed to unfold. But as far as you're understanding, do
you believe that the Book of Revelation tells of what
we're experiencing now?

Speaker 3 (32:05):
Yes, the Bible, as well as the early Christians in
the first three hundred years and even the many of
the Jews in those early centuries that believe the Bible
believe that since God made the earth in six days
and rested on the seventh, that there is going to
be six thousand years. Those days are literal twenty four

(32:29):
hour days, but they are pictures of history laid out
in the Book of Genesis. So so we look at
the Book of Revelation as prophecy, but actually the Book
of Genesis is a prophecy of what is coming and
what is going to replay, and so you're going to
have these six thousand years of history, but by the
time you got to Jesus, you have two days left.

Speaker 4 (32:53):
So that's why you.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
See John the Baptist and Jesus saying, you know, the
Kingdom of God is at hand. Well, it was at
hand because not only was the king there, but literally
time is running out. The biggest period of history, the
four thousand years leading from Adam to Jesus, had already
been fulfilled. You only have two more days of the

(33:17):
six days left, and we are at the end now
of that sixth day. Now here's what Christians believe Jesus said.
Now understand, I could come early. I could come suddenly
when you least expect me. But over here I have
books from the sixteen hundreds, I have prophecies of writers

(33:38):
from centuries ago. And most Christians taught that Jesus would
come sometime around the year two thousand or shortly thereafter.
And they would say, look, how close we're getting to

(33:59):
the year two thousand. We better repent and get right
and look for him, because he said he could come early.
So there was this expectation always throughout the centuries he
could come in our day. But we know he's going
to come around the year two thousand, and then on
the seventh day the Lord rested. So the Bible predicts

(34:20):
a thousand year rest Revelation chapter twenty Isaiah eleven called
the Kingdom of God that's coming to this earth, and
it's the great Sabbath of history. So the fact that
Israel now is restored as a nation. We have this
push toward world government, we have this mark of the

(34:40):
Beast technology, we have these earthquakes and strange weather patterns.
We have the great falling away into deception, we have
the alien agenda, and this UFO and AI. All of
it is happening so rapidly, I'd say it's right on time.
And so yes, the Book of Revelation is all future

(35:03):
to even us, except for Revelation two and three, which
is a pattern of the churches in that two thousand
year period, describing I believe a prophetic picture. They were
literal historic churches, but the Lord was giving us a pattern,
as many Christians believe in the past. Church number one

(35:24):
was the church age of number one in the first century.
And it goes on to Laelu seas the final church
age that we see, and it says that it's rich,
in need of nothing, fallen away, lazy, apathetic.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
The very.

Speaker 3 (35:44):
End time church a group of Christians that should be
most excited about the Lord's coming. Is sitting around, playing
on their iPads and just unconcerned so much. And I'm
not talking about every Christian, but there is this delusion.
And Jesus spoke of it. He said, yes, there's going

(36:05):
to be all these signs, all this preparation. The devil's
working too. See, the same printing press that was brought
to the world also brought a revival of occultism. It
brought the Bible in the hands of every man. That
it also brought magic books and the revival of hermetic witchcraft.

(36:28):
And the same Internet. We were one of the first
churches on the Internet. We were written in the New
York Times. As you know, look at this church. It's
on the internet. That was back in the nineties. Well,
the same Internet has also brought people just constantly scrolling.
And we are so thankful to be able to do
what we're doing right now and to be able to

(36:51):
communicate with people across the ocean. And it's such an
amazing thing. And God said there would be an open door.
But we also see how the devil uses it to
lull people to sleep and bring the great deception that
the Bible predicted would occur. Oh, I believe that it's not.

(37:13):
The Book of Revelation has not yet been fulfilled.

Speaker 2 (37:16):
You now speaking of a great deception. From what I've observed,
it would seem that there are many Christians that have
been deceived by this current administration. In the background, they're
rolling out this technocratic nightmare that is seemingly going to
allow AI to control everything. What are your thoughts about

(37:40):
this current administration. Do you think there's a deception there?

Speaker 3 (37:45):
Well, I'm very thankful for the revival in many ways
from a Christian perspective, back to some sanity, but at
the same time, the AI, the technology.

Speaker 4 (38:02):
You know, I don't believe.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
That President Trump is biblically literate in regard to the
Book of Revelation and some of these things.

Speaker 4 (38:12):
And when you are, when you're not aware.

Speaker 3 (38:17):
Of what the devil's doing, it's easy to think that
these things are just wonderful and this is just such
progress for mankind, and who knows who's controlling strings behind
you know all of that. Certainly, the Bible says that
Satan is the god of this world, and that doesn't

(38:41):
mean that he's in absolute control of this world. It
means that he is who people are really looking toward
and worshiping. And the Bible says we wrestle not against
flesh and blood, but against these demons, these principalities and
high places. And you'll see in the book of Daniel,
and Daniel saw angels flying and fighting up in the air,

(39:05):
and he called him the Prince of Persia, and they
actually took the name. The actual kings were not as
in control as much as the devils were ruling things
from on high. And so we are fighting against devils

(39:27):
and what they are bringing forth through whatever vessels, for
whatever technology. That is one thing we had in the
days of Noah. And Jesus says that there would be
a reekat of the days of Noah. As in the
days of Noah, so shall it be and the coming
of the Son of Man. And in the days of

(39:48):
Noah there was this massive increase of technology. Then people
began to sin and just whatever they imagine, they began
to sin and murder, and then they began to make
contact with devils, and then they began to pro create
with devils, which is was very beyond what God intended.

(40:14):
But it was a corrupting of the human seed and
creating these super powerful humans that caused others to say, wow,
I want this power. I'm going to worship these men.
And so we are definitely seeing all of these things

(40:36):
come to pass just as Jesus said.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Let's talk a little bit about some of the history
you write about in regards to people like Aleister Crowley
and their contributions to this era that we've currently entered into.
I know you have a chapter about him. Talk a
little bit about what you focus on there.

Speaker 4 (41:01):
Well.

Speaker 3 (41:01):
At leaster Crowley is, you know, behind the scenes, has
been the you know, I know from as a rock musician.
You know, I used to play the solo for mister
Crawley by Ozzy Osbourne and you see the Beatles including
him on the back of their album. And so he's

(41:22):
always been a figure that has been adored among fatanist,
among people that are into the occult. And when you
look at some of the things that Crawley taught, definitely hermetic,

(41:46):
just like the theosophy that was before him. But he was
greatly influenced by but he died in nineteen forty seven.
But you see that there was a time when he
actually wrote that there is coming this new age and

(42:09):
the planet is going to be bathed in blood, and
it's going to be a bloody sacrifice. Uh, it's going
to be this proclamation of Horace, the age of Horace,
the crown and conquering child that is going to come.
And this stuff is just in one sense, he was

(42:31):
exactly right. Only he wasn't the Beast of the Book
of Revelation.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
That this coming.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Person that the world is going to worship is the Beast.
And he also had contact with an entity called Lamb
that he said he was communicating through to this through
this magical portal, and he was like a gray alien archetype, and.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
We see this gray man.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Actually became a model for much of the science fiction writers,
and many of the science fiction writers some were just
making money, but some were real theosophists and real followers
of Crawley.

Speaker 4 (43:20):
And you got to understand.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
That the Masons, you know, if you read the like
Albert Pike, he says, we've always as a cultics occultists
been communicating to people through fiction, and that is our
way of getting our message, not only to the ignorant masses,

(43:45):
but so the enlightened among them will see what we're
doing and half communication. So science fiction is more than
just entertainment. It is is that it is a movement
from theosophy through Crawley own up through our day, letting

(44:14):
you know what they're planning and how this battle is
going to take place in the.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
D Do you think Crowley was responsible for some of
the rituals that may have in a sense opened a
door to these demonic forces in our modern age?

Speaker 4 (44:36):
Absolutely, oh yes, oh yes, for sure. And it wasn't
just Crawley.

Speaker 3 (44:42):
You know, Thomas Edison for a time, what was a
serious theosophist, and he we know what he invented, but
before he died he was actually working on and what
he called his greatest invention, and Tesla was also working

(45:03):
on it, and that is to communicate to the spirits
without a weed de board, without having to have a seance,
but a technological way to bypass having to do divination
and that type of thing. He wanted to get in

(45:24):
touch with the spirits, dead, whatever you want to call them,
through technology. And this is why many believe that this Ai,
this new sybyl if you will, is becoming or will
become in a greater way. The way these devils communicate

(45:48):
directly to people and I'm not saying it's wrong to
use AI, but don't treat it as God, and you
better keep your eyes open and don't pray to it.

Speaker 2 (45:58):
And well, they've already been some very strange instances and
situations suicides associated with AI communication. There have been other deaths.
AI seems to have this mode of self preservation and
deception at times. So could it be that we're already

(46:20):
there with this demonic connection and AI.

Speaker 3 (46:26):
I'm afraid to say, yes, I believe anything that you
begin to talk to in trying to get secret knowledge.
We're moving beyond just a calculator, but it's becoming.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
A crystal ball. And you do you know. I think
my last chapter is don't open doors to.

Speaker 3 (46:54):
Satan as his angels. And that's how, after going through
all of this history, that last dependence appendix is don't
the devil can't just intrude into your life. He has
to knock on the door and you have to open
the door. Of course, Anton Levy said that the way

(47:18):
you open the door, and Crawley also agreed that denying
your intellectual mind is the path. As Crawley said, the
no mind, no things, no things. You know, Buddha and
actually probably his quote was the mind is the great enemy,
and through the monks of Hinduism chanting the same word

(47:43):
over and over and over. Crawley said that is a
way of silencing the intellectual mind. So you can get
possessed and have this power of satan. You could do
it through drugs. Even Levey said that some Hollywood movies

(48:06):
and gore and that type of thing opens the barrier.

Speaker 4 (48:10):
To these entities. So we have to beware of.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Looking at Ai and talking to it and asking it
about your future and treating it as God.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
And I do.

Speaker 3 (48:29):
Believe, regardless of what the creators intended, I believe the
devils can manifest through that. And so they can manifest
through a Ouiji board and there's no computer chips in
that at all.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
You know, there are many that believe during the final
quote unquote deception that will experience as it relates to extraterrestrials,
that there may be a fake invasion of sorts.

Speaker 3 (48:59):
Do you mean like a government, Well, it could be.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
That's one of the theories that the government is going
to stage a false UFO invasion. The other is that
these demonic forces are going to display themselves as the extraterrestrials.

Speaker 3 (49:18):
Ultimately, I do believe it will be the devils manifesting
as the aliens. You know, as you just read through
the Book of Revelation, you see devils everywhere you see.

Speaker 4 (49:31):
See what happens is.

Speaker 3 (49:34):
The first thing that occurs is Jesus comes from the
third heaven.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
You have the sky where birds fly is the first heaven.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
You have the second heaven where the planets and the
moon and the stars. The third heaven is beyond that.
And the Bible says Jesus comes from that third heaven.
But he first comes to the heavens above the earth
and he cleanses them. And at that point, just like

(50:05):
in the Bible, you see when they invaded the city,
many times the king of Babylon didn't just go marching
right into the city. He would wait outside the city.
He would get right to the door and he would
just blockade it and he would wait for them to
come out and surrender, or he would just arg him

(50:28):
to death and finally march in to conquer. Well. Jesus
does the same thing. He has the title deed. Book
Revelation shows him holding the title d to the earth.
He is the one and there's a usurper Satan, and
he comes to the clouds above the earth first, and

(50:49):
all of the devils lose their ability to inhabit that airspace.
And the Bible says in Revelation twelve, they come down
now with Satan having great wrath, knowing their time is short,
and you are going to have manifestations of devils disguised

(51:11):
as aliens like never before.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Now understand, though.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Many do believe they are aliens, there's going to be
your hardcore Satanists that understand clearly what's going on.

Speaker 4 (51:28):
There's no confusion at all. You know, many of them.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
The Bible says they worshiped the dragon, that there is
going to be Satanic worship, and they.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Know who it is.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
But there's this other agenda that if you want to believe,
he is actually an alien from another planet, this Antichrist,
and we've actually come down to help your evolution.

Speaker 4 (51:59):
The scary thing is that.

Speaker 3 (52:03):
The Bible shows that Elijah and Moses shall return to
this earth. Even the Lord Jesus, they asked him. He says,
what does a Bible say? And Malachi that Elijah's going
to return, and Jesus says he shall return them but
he goes on to explain that John the Baptist was

(52:24):
a picture of him. But yet the literal Elijah surely
shall first come in the last days. Well, the Bible says,
he's going to have all of.

Speaker 4 (52:36):
The powers and signs and wonders.

Speaker 3 (52:39):
Isn't it interesting that new age writers are already telling
us beware of bad aliens. All these movies had primed
us for this. So when Moses and Elijah manifest themselves
and are able to do miracles, the Bible said, because
they start preaching old fashioned family, that they restore fathers

(53:02):
to the home, and they restore that gap of alienation
between fathers and children. The Bible says, the world is tormented.
They are triggered, all of the woke of the world
that they just lose their minds and they want to
kill them, but they're not able to. They're able to
make fire come down from heaven in the sight of men. Well,

(53:24):
don't you know that these are going to be seen
as bad aliens. The whole world is in total terror
because they think this is just horrible. Well, they're already
telling you there's going to be bad aliens that are
going to disguise themselves as people in history and try

(53:44):
to lead you back to a patriarchy, try to lead
you back to these old ways. But they're saying you
have to resist them. Well, the Bible says, after three
and a half years, the anti cr Christ is allowed
to kill them, and all the world celebrate. They give
gifts to one another, they make marry, says the King

(54:07):
James Bible. They celebrate the great beach, this great man,
he was the only one able to stop these bad aliens.
And I believe that the Antichrist is going to be
seen as the good Aliens, and Elijah and Moses and
finally Jesus Christ, because you've got to remember when he

(54:29):
comes out of the sky, he's on a white horse.
He's flying on a horse, and his armies are flying
on horses, flying horses. And the Bible says, all the
world with.

Speaker 4 (54:40):
Anti Christ go to war with him.

Speaker 3 (54:44):
It's a battle of aliens. They think Jesus is the
bad aliens, and Moses and Elijah are bad aliens, and
you have to follow the good aliens. I mean, we've
been crime movie after movie after movie, bad alien good
aliens end up. They're even telling you now the new
Agers are telling you watch out for the bad aliens.

(55:06):
Don't believe them. They're deceivers. They're trying to hold you
back from evolution in godhood.

Speaker 2 (55:12):
For the last few minutes here, I'd like to talk
a little bit about your chapter that explores Hitler's occult
blueprint for an Antichrist rule.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Well, Hitler was a type of the Antichrist, so you
know he was bringing in the right and I quote
the new Agers and Theosophists that you know, their sign
was the swastika years before Hitler ever came to power,

(55:48):
and they were talking about this great brotherhood and this
uh imperial brotherhood that they're bringing in aryan humanity, and
it was just pretty much theosophy. And I quote the
various people that were with Hitler and actually eyewitnesses to

(56:10):
what he believed.

Speaker 4 (56:12):
And I've read all of these books.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
I've read The Architect, I've read these other men that
knew Hitler, and modern historians don't like what these men wrote.
You don't hear much about it in public school, but
these are eyewitness testimonies from men that are telling you

(56:35):
absolutely what Hitler was saying and what he believed. And
Hitler was saying, I'm not trying to bring in some
type of Christianity and morals. You know, I want men
to go have whoores and that type of thing to
keep them satisfied. But he was bringing in a revived

(56:57):
pagan magic. And he believed Christianity was weak and that
it was holding us back from our evolution. And of
course what did he do. He began to bring in
his purge. He began to bring in this he called

(57:21):
it purifying, and he believed he was purifying the human
race to bring in this world order. I believe he
thought he was going to be the one chosen to
bring in this world government and this final piece. And
he knew there had to be the sacrifice that occurred.

Speaker 4 (57:41):
See HG. Wells had already He's the one that wrote
the War of the World and that type of thing.
And HG.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Wells had already said, we're going to try through propaganda
to bring in this world government, this absolute control. But
if propaganda doesn't work, we have to shed blood, and
we're going to shed a lot of blood. And it
is an open conspiracy. He caught it an open conspiracy

(58:10):
right after he wrote his Alien book. He wrote this
open conspiracy, and Hitler was aware of that. Hitler was
in touch with these types of people, and I believe
he thought that he was bringing in the world government.
He was going to be the leader, and it was
going to be this wonderful age, this golden age that

(58:31):
they've been looking for since the time of the Roman
Empire of Satan, has been promising for six thousand years.
And you have to have this purge that Crawley spoke about,
this blood bath that these Hitler actually brought in a purge.
But when you look through the twenty the twentieth and

(58:53):
twenty first centuries, occultists, new agers, new Age prophets.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
They speak of this.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
If you want to have the golden Golden Age, there's
going to be a lot of blood and chaos shed
to actually have it. Christopher Hye at Ruth Montgomery, the
earth is going to be swept clean. There's got to
be this heard, says Montgomery. These extraterrestrial bodies who take beings,

(59:25):
who take over the bodies of earthlings, and there's going
to be the shedding of blood. Marx, Barbara Marx, Hubbard
and I could just go on and on. I quote them,
And isn't it interest that the Bible said Israel would
be restored, you'd have the greatest deception mankind has ever seen.
You would have a push for world government, and then

(59:47):
you would have mass, absolute, tutalitarian control, and you would
have the shedding of blood like never before in history
or ever will be again. And the New Agers are
telling us right now.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
For the last few minutes, is there anything that you
would like to leave the audience with that we have
not discussed yet, any final thoughts.

Speaker 3 (01:00:13):
I believe the Bible says that there's going to be
a lie and a Bible calls it a great dellusion,
and that the people love not the truth, and that
is why they embrace this different narrative, says the Bible,
because they receive not.

Speaker 4 (01:00:33):
The love of the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
They didn't want to believe in the personal God because
communicated to man through the Bible, and what he's asking
of mankind is first that we realize we're sinners and
we received Jesus Christ and what he did for us
on the cross. He shed blood as a sacrifice as

(01:00:56):
a payment for our sins. And the first thing he
says is just trust me and I'll give you eternal life.

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
It's a free gift. I want to give it to
you for free.

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Just admit you can't save yourself and your good works
can't save you.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
Just believe on me.

Speaker 3 (01:01:12):
The next thing he's saying is, now that you're saved
in eternity, I want you to reign with me in
this thousand year time that is coming. That is a prize,
and it's a celebration for obedient Christians. If you will
get ready and look excited, seek first this coming kingdom.

(01:01:34):
Strive to enter into it by being a good child
of God, being obedient. But beware, says Jesus. The devil
doesn't want you to win the crown. He doesn't want
you to be a good Christian. He wants to try
to keep you from believing upon Jesus. And if he
can't do that, he wants you to just be a
bad Christian, a compromise Christian. And it's very easy to

(01:01:58):
get caught up. Jesus says, if possible, even the elect
will be deceived. It is going to be so so deceptive.
But I'm Bible also says there's there is a coming disappearance,
and people call it the rapture, and Christians who are
awake and ready will be taken from this earth. And

(01:02:24):
we're not just trying to say we want to escape
the persecution. Sure, we want to escape that, but people
have been persecuted all down through the centuries. One of
the main things we want to escape is the great delusion.
We don't want to be proud and say, oh, it
doesn't matter, I'll be discerning.

Speaker 4 (01:02:42):
I'm not going to fall.

Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
I'm not going to be persuaded and believe that these
are real alien No, you will.

Speaker 4 (01:02:49):
You will not believe.

Speaker 3 (01:02:50):
How deceptive it's going to be.

Speaker 4 (01:02:53):
And we're not in that agent.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
You could see it gathering steam and the cur and
about to open. But just get ready, don't listen to
these devils, beware of what God said, and be discerning.
Right on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Joey, thank you so much. Love to talk again in
the future. Much more we can get into.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Before I let you go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Remind the audience how they can get your book and
find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:20):
Okay on Amazon. My book is for sale paperback, audio, ebook,
and just look up my name Joey fast Faust and
the Alien Agenda, and you can go to Old path
O L D P A T h dot org and
that is my website. And I also have a health

(01:03:45):
page on Facebook. I love natural health and the Bible
talks a lot about not just our spiritual health, but
also our natural health, and so you could look me
up on Facebook as well. Hey, thank you for the
time and for your openness. Yes, and you're a great
interviewer and I appreciate you've given me the time talk about.

Speaker 4 (01:04:05):
Thank you so much.

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