The Birth Field & Great Mother, Trauma & Cultural Imprinting, Regenerative Birth | Alana Bliss - Forbidden Knowledge News

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Speaker 1 (01:21):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host Chris Matthew. Today,
my guest is Alana Bliss. Check out my film's Doors
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email me Forbidden Knowledgeews at gmail dot com. Today, I

(01:43):
want to welcome back to the show Alana Bliss. She
has committed herself to being an embodied agent of change
through intentionally creating a regenerative culture and lifestyle. She is
an eclectic theist, permaculturists, conscious birth, educator, doula, writer, and entrepreneur. Alana,
welcome back. How you doing doing well?

Speaker 3 (02:06):
Thank you. I'm glad to be here to have you back.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
When you were previously on, we discussed an introduction to
sacred childbirth. Today we're going to continue the discussion, taking
a deeper dive into the topic. With the rapid technological advancements,
it seems to further many get from truly beneficial natural
ways of giving birth. I would think that the way

(02:32):
we enter this realm has huge effects on our development
and even spiritual connection. There's a lot we can get
into with this based on your talking points. Before we do,
remind the audience a little bit about yourself and let
them know how they can find out more.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Okay, Hi, thank you. I'm Alana Bliss. I have five children,
four of which were born at home. I've been a
doula and study at some midwiffree. I decided to go
on the permaculture path because it was a little more
stabilitizing or it gave more stability to our lives for
our children, so that's why I did that. And my
youngest is three, my oldest is twenty one, and I've

(03:11):
had incredibly empowering birth experiences. I did have one emergency
C section, which is also very empowering because I have
a lens where I perceive birth as a right of
passage and a fortification process where I gather the strength
to become a powerful and present parent. So that's something
that because of this lens, I've been able to take
cardships and transform them into these very strengthening experiences, so

(03:34):
that's been pretty powerful. I had one child in Oregon,
one in Minnesota, one in Costa Rica, and then another
two in Minnesota, so I've been all over the place
with that and I've spoken throughout the world, not like
all over, but in Portugal and Costa Rica and Minnesota
about birth and Florida as a right of passage, and

(03:55):
really found that people are passionate about it. When I
tell people I love to give birth, they kind of
look at me like I'm crazy, but it's true I do.
And so I also have a spoken word piece that
I wrote about it. And I'm just really passionate about
re empowering mother, father, and child and really taking it
back as a human experience and also a million experience.

(04:16):
So I think that that's really what I'm feeling drawn
to in this this season of my life.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
Excellent. How long have you been exploring these methods of childbirth?
Has it been since your first child or before?

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yes? Yeah, so I was. I was terrified of childbirth
because my mother would always use it as like a
guilt trip, like you better be nice, you were you know,
forty six hours of hell or whatever she would say.
And so I was scared about the pain and all this.
And so you know, I had my first pregnancy. I

(04:53):
aborted because I was so scared. I didn't want to
do it, and then I ended up becoming the bell
tane queen in Ashland, Oregon and representing the fertility goddess,
so that, you know, kind of solidified it. When I
got pregnant that like a month later, not even a
month later, and so I felt like cornered into it.
I guess I was like, Okay, I have to experience birth.

(05:15):
And I met a woman on a train who was
like on spiritual fire around birth, and she had just
witnessed her first birth. She'd been studying midwiffree, and so
I started to like dive in. I read Aname's book,
Spiritual Mifree, and then I started realizing that it was
actually an empowering thing. If I was at home, I
would be able to kind of sink into the relaxation

(05:37):
of it instead of feel like a medical emergency. So
I studied it. I wrote a spoken word piece about it.
I performed it all over in Hawaii, in the States,
I mean, in the mainland and wherever I went, and
I kind of solidified that. And then I treated my
pregnancy as if it were a like a class, you know.
I dove in, I learned everything I could. I interviewed

(05:58):
a ton of midwives, and then I went to a
doctor and the doctor tried to scare me out of it,
out of home birth. She was telling me I would
never be able to do it. I have a bicorner uterus,
which is like kind of like heart shape, so I
have like two corns or whatever they call it, and
so two horns, and so because of that, I would
never go full term. I was too high risk. I

(06:19):
have to be in a hospital. And then I left
that doctor's appointment. It was a woman doctor too. I
left crying and I called one of the midwives that
I felt the most resonant with and I told her
what had happened. And she said, sweetheart, and you are fine.
I'll be there every step of the way. You don't
have to worry. It's all right. And so I went
with her and I had an extremely empowering birth experience

(06:40):
where I met what I call the great Mother or
this continuum, continuum consciousness of the great birth, an egregre,
that is the birth itself. And I felt incredibly supported
and we used crystal balls and I danced. I wouldn't
say it was an actual dancer. It was more like
stomping my feet in the contractions. And there was one

(07:03):
moment during that birth where I was laying on a
massage table and my partner and my dula were like
in the other room, kind of preparing a snack or
something for me, and I was like, oh, I'm alone
and dejected, and so I started feeling a lot of pain.
And I remember like in that moment, I felt like
I was going to be ripped in half. And then
luckily this when the rush subsided, my mind was like,

(07:27):
get up, dance. If you lay like this, you are
going to end up on an operating table, Like you
need to move your body, move your hips, just get
RELENTI relax and release and I did that and it
was never as painful as it was in that moment again,
and so that's kind of when I started to realize
how I birth had a huge effect on my sensations.

(07:47):
And then there was a crystal bowl in the room
and I remember like, play that and I toned to
the same frequency as the bowl, and my pain like
rolled the sound waves out, and I was like it
was just incredible. After that, everything we had essential oils
and crystals and crystal bowls and did you know all
of the things, and I had of extremely empowering birth.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
That's amazing when it comes to our modern methods of birth.
I think this is a good place to start. What
are some of the biggest problems you see with our
modern medical industry and the way that they do deliveries.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
Yeah, so, I mean the first one is women shouldn't
be birthing on their backs. Yeah, Like that's the fundamental thing. Like,
I've never birthed on my back. I have birth hands
and knees. I've you know, I've been at birth where
women have hung or squatted or like like hung on
their partners or hung on like a something off the ceiling.
Like I use a sheet in that birth so she

(08:46):
can just like put her weight on it and relax. Water.
I mean, it's like it's not natural because you know
how we have our tailbone kind of it kind of
curves up a little bit at the base of our spine. Well,
it's contrary to the baby being pushed out. So not
only are we laying down in kind of condensing our hips,
but we're also trying to push a baby over our tailbone.

(09:08):
So that's a completely unnatural position. And it was invented,
or it was actually shouldn't say invented. It was started
to be used so that the doctors could have a
better view of what was going on. So it has
nothing to do with birth like physiology, and so that's one,
but I think the bigger issue with birth is that
we have this Okay, so there's a I believe that

(09:29):
there's a birth field, so like a toroidal field that
is generated from within the mother in the womb, and
this is basically opening a dimension between portal between this
reality and the next. Right, it's so the soul can
come in. And it's this field that the mother creates
that is unconscious, biological, and it's a part and it
connects her to the agrigor of birth, the great Mother.

(09:51):
And in that process, the birthing field, when it's really
allowed to generate, it creates this safe space. And the
masculine role is to hold that to make sure it's protected,
and the feminine role is to generate it and just
release and relaxing. No deeper. And so what has happened
is through intervention and kind of like a colonialization of birth,

(10:14):
what's happened is that that birth field has started to
have fear in it, pain and fear. And so what
happens is the mother is afraid of birth itself because
of all these ancestral wounds, you know, with the you
know how trauma passes through different generations. So we have
a fear of birth itself and then that trauma given
to us by mothers, our grandmothers, so far back. We

(10:37):
are afraid of giving birth. And fear in a birth
process is like holding the brakes. So if you try
to get your car to move and you've got one
foot on the break the whole time, you can't go anywhere.
And so what happens is the generation of this birth
field is reduced and the strength of connection to fit
to the oneself and you know, this field is reduced
and we do need more help and we end up

(10:59):
having to have interventions because we're afraid. So that's the
big one is fear. It's been like inoculated into our consciousness.
And what happens in that process is that I as
a baby, or I should say, when I was a baby, right,
because we all were. When we come into the world
and we experience fear, we automatically close down and we

(11:23):
tend to give our authority over to others. Right, So
we get this initial imprinting Olympic imprinting from birth that
the world is a scary place, that it's not safe,
we are not supported, and we are disconnected. So going
into another big, big issue that we're dealing with in
modernization of birth is cutting the umbilical core before it's
done pulsing. This is huge because a lot of the

(11:43):
baby's blood is in the placenta, and so that's one thing,
But then another thing is that the biggest physiological change
of our entire life is going from a cycle with
our mother to being an independent, autonomous cycle with ourself.
And I mean this like literally with like nutrients and
blood and oxygen, right, and now all of a sudden
we come out and in a natural childbirth, we are

(12:05):
allowed to learn how to breathe because we're connected to mom.
The cord is still giving us oxygen, it's still giving
us nutrients and blood, and we're allowed, we're like able
to take a breath with spaciousness. But when the cord
is cut, we have to breathe or die, you know.
And so it's this moment of panic and you lose
all that blood. So you're you're like symbolically being disconnected

(12:28):
to source from source, You're being disconnected from your source,
which is your mother, and you have to breathe now
or die. So this creates an incredible imprint of fear
and insecurity. So then what happens is in order to survive,
oftentimes there's an intervention and the doctor or somebody has
to help you to breathe, and then we feel dependent

(12:50):
on authority. So this is like the saying how you
who controls birth controls the earth is essential because what
we experience during that time literally creates the lens from
which we see ourselves in the world.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
I know you said that the main reason they started
making the woman lie down to give childbirth is so
that the doctor could see things better. But with everything
that at one time was beneficial for humanity, there seems
to be an intentionality behind the degradation of some of
these the ways that we operate as humans. Would you

(13:27):
agree that this is another one of those instances where
there is some intentionality at some level behind this.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, I mean I when I look back at the history,
there's a really good book about birth. It's just birth,
and it's like the history of it. When we had
birth at home, surrounded by elders, and specifically the elder
women and our sisters and things. I think that that,
you know, that was a really normal process, and yes,
we did die like it happened, And so there are

(13:57):
times when Western medicine is important. I experienced that firsthand
with my emergency C section. I appreciate that. I appreciate
the ability for us to be able to be saved
when we're in these situations. However, I do agree and
I think that you know, if we are to colonize
or disconnect humans from nature, the first step is to

(14:18):
disconnect ourself from like, you know, first from ourselves. Right,
so you you have this feeling of fear. You can't
trust yourself, you can't trust your parents, you can't trust
the world. Now it's going to be much easier to
manipulate people because fear is the number one tool for manipulation.
So I really do think that it has a huge Yeah,
I think it was intentional, and I think that it

(14:39):
was done in order to have more power and control
over the masses. And I think that's a big part
of the colonial tool belt. You know, We've got like alcohol, religion, birth,
taking the kids and raising them in something into a
different you know, like like the Indian schools, so I think, yeah,

(15:00):
I personally, do you know, I tend to be a
little bit more of a conspiracy theorist. But but uh, yeah,
I know, which is why I feel like I can
just get into that with you. But I do think
so because it's interesting how within every birth there's this
opportunity for evolution or not. Right. So, when a man's

(15:20):
sperm is maturing based on the experiences that he's having
in his world, certain genes will be pulled to that maturation.
So for example, if I'm in like a warring society
where I have to fight or I feel stressed a lot,
then my body will say, oh, I need to make
sure that my children have strong bodies and the ability

(15:42):
to be resilient and withstand hardships, right, And so I'll
pull those genes to the body will pull those genes
into the sperm every time it matures. If the man
is feeling like he's in a loving, creative, nurturing environment,
then it'll pull genes that are more about development, like
intellectual development and creativity and less about physical strength. Right.
And so that's every single cycle that a man has

(16:04):
with his maturation of sperm. The same is true with
a woman every cycle that she has. When she right
before ovulation, there's a maturation of the egg that happens,
and the same exact thing happens. This is called genomic imprinting.
So every single time, every single month, the body is
saying I'm involving. Am I evolving our species? Or am
I continuing this fight or flight kind of thing, you know?

(16:26):
And there's no wrong answer, because we have to survive
and thrive. And so the same is with in the pregnancy.
When a mother is feeling loved and nurtured, as that
baby grows, it will activate these genes either for like
fighting and strength or creativity and intellectual and intelligence, and
so this in empathy and so this happens every single time.

(16:48):
And of course isn't like oh I had a bad thought,
now my baby's going to be No, it's like the
chronic feeling underneath. It's like the undertoe in which the
baby is born, because the baby's literally swimming in and
be created by the juices of the mother and what
she experiences. She is the lens from which the baby
experiences the outside world. And how mom feels about the

(17:08):
baby and how Dad feels about the baby will directly
affect how the baby becomes, like who the baby becomes subconsciously, physically, emotionally, spiritually,
and so how you know. What I've been really passionate
about bringing up is like seeing birth as a right
of passage, Like if I am coming into this experience,

(17:28):
first of all, I think that our daughters and our
sons need to be taught like fertility in like this
rite of pastors kind of way, Like every young girl
should learn how her cycle works. Oh, I can tell
what I'm fertile based on my cervix, based on the
fluid I'm experiencing, based on my temperature. I'm going to
know exactly what I'm ovulating. Now, imagine how few abortions

(17:50):
we would have if girls were taught that at a
young age, you know, and when it was time to
actually have babies, they would be ready and they would
be able to have conscious conception, they could actually decide.
And then if men were taught that same process and
they understood like the flavor changes or the you know,
how to retain their own semen and recycle it, you know,

(18:10):
and then they could also be active participants in when
conception occurs instead of oh up, sababy, you know, and
I don't think and I don't think that there's anything
wrong with bops of babies. I have plenty of them,
you know. I wasn't consciously conceiving and doing all that
stuff with mine and they're awesome people. But like, it
would be incredible as a society if we were taught,

(18:31):
if our children were taught that when they were growing up.
So that's something I'm really passionate about. And then also
the birth itself, like a father feeling empowered to be like, Okay,
I get that I'm going to be pushed away by
my wife like she's gonna or partner, she's gonna push
me away. I'm gonna have to love unconditionally. I'm gonna
have to keep coming back even though I'm not feeling

(18:52):
safe in this situation. I'm gonna have to strengthen myself
because guess what, your kids are gonna do the same thing.
So if you're able to like start feeling like unconditionally
loving and supportive regardless of what's coming at you from
this very hormonal woman, you know, then you can become
that's your right of passage in understanding how to be
a better father and partner and the woman. Same thing

(19:13):
is as she's doing the work to open up and
release and thaw the frozen emotional landscape that's been holding
her in fear around birth, then she can open up
and become this like vessel in which this baby can
come through with grace. And of course there are complications,
but when those occur, if mom and Dad can be like,
this is a right of passage, fortifying us into parenthood,

(19:36):
fortifying us into the and like I can look back
and say, hey, I did that. If I can do that,
whatever's coming at me, this kid's gonna throw at me,
I can handle it. You know, I just climbed a mountain.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
I want to go deeper into the spiritual metaphysical aspects
of childbirth. You mentioned a few times the birth field.
Maybe we could get a little deeper into that as
well as the great mother. You said she is a
birthing archetype innocense. Talk a little bit more about.

Speaker 3 (20:06):
That, Okay, So field theory is something that I've dived
I've like to dive into right and like, for example,
when a baby is born, there's this morphogenetic or not
born conceived, there's a morphogenetic field that starts to occur
at conception, and it's it's just like this energy around
the baby that starts to tell it orchestrate how it forms.

(20:29):
This is the this is the head, this is the heart,
this is these are the lungs. There's so there's like
two different fields. There's a morphogenetic field and then there's
the biofield. The morphogenetic field is first, it happens before
there's much else, and it uses like you can imagine,
like the DNA is like the harp, and the morphogenetic
field is like playing the harp, and each of those
strings is like the genes of the DNA, and it's like,

(20:52):
so this field is starting to like pulse. There's actually
they've actually found with through like monitoring stuff, like these
electromagnetic frequencies coming off of the baby that pulse and
it activates the DNA, and so this is kind of
how that starts to occur. And then once there's enough
biology there, the biofield takes over. And that's just like
the biofield is like the functioning of how our body works,

(21:13):
and it's the electromagnetic kind of rhythm that goes on
within the body, and the morphogenetic field and the biofield
kind of have this interplay, and so that's going on
within each of us all the time, and then you know,
people see it's like, oh, that's like the aura or
that's you know, the biofield is like the part of
us that's like this toroidal field that we're always emitting
from our hearts. Like I don't know if you've seen that,

(21:33):
but there's like you can measure that, right, there's this
field coming off of us at all times. When birth happens,
the field shifts from our hearts to our uterus, and
the uterus starts to play a huge role in that
it starts to become the center of this generation of
this stronger field, and that stronger field reaches out. So
my experience, I saw this continuum of all the mothers

(21:57):
that had ever given birth, of all species that give birth,
all that were in this moment with me right now,
and all that would be doing in the future. We
were like one continuum concept. It was this unification of
sort and I felt and heard through psychic connection the
Great Mother, which I consider the agrigre of birth itself.

(22:18):
So she's not dependent on my belief, she's dependent on
the process of happening, which is kind of this primordial
being And oh, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, I was going to say that you mentioned earlier
that the Great Mother Agrigre has innocence been altered by fear,
and that makes me think of all the other archetypes,
the unseen intelligences and forces that have influenced humanity since
the beginning of time, how much those have been altered

(22:50):
or even infiltrated by darker forces or intelligences that want
to gain power, even humans that want to gain power.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yeah, well, I don't think the Great Mother herself has
been altered. What I think is that there's been this
fracturing of it. So like just like whenever, whenever this
field is being generated, the highest goal or the like
is to become in complete grace and unity with this
Great Mother. And then what happens is you're in this
like field of protection, right, and so from that space,

(23:22):
like that's that's the most ideal. If I can't get
to that point, there's another energy that's created, do you
know what I mean? Like there's an and then the
more I get to like the suffering, the more there's
like these different fractured I think fractured beings that come
from that. So there could be there very well could
be like a I don't want to call it a demon,
but some kind of a parasitic loose feeding being that's

(23:44):
like specifically in those places where it's extremely disempowering. I mean,
if you look at the history of birth, there was
an era and I don't remember the exact dates, but
I know most of the nineteenth and or the most
of the nineteenth century and into the twentieth century, women
were given twilight sleep, which was basically like bella Donna

(24:07):
mixed with other components. And so what would happen is
the woman would go in and usually it was really
wealthy women, and so they would go in and they'd
take their little concoction, and then they would come in
and ask her questions, and as soon as they realized
she couldn't remember anything, then they would bring her into
the birthing room and they would actually like strap her
down where she had lambs wool leather straps on, and

(24:29):
they've used the lambs wole so that you couldn't see
like it wasn't causing like redness on the wrists, but
they would strap her on her arm, her hands and
wrists and ankles, and then she would be writhing in pain,
and that they learned that she could wake herself from
this delusion through her own screams, so they started to
put cotton balls with oil in the mother's ears. And

(24:50):
like the only people that really knew the horrors that
were going on at that time were the doctors and
nurses and the people that lived near, so that people
that were living near the hospitals were poorting these horrific
scream and this is why the women. The doctor started
cutting women open to try to pull the baby out.
This is why they started inventing forceps to try to
pull the baby out because baby wasn't coming out naturally

(25:11):
because she was literally strapped down. And again what happened
afterwards is Monk wakes up and baby's in her hands,
and she has no memory of all that. Dad's not
allowed anywhere near. And so this like horrific experience is
sought after because people are like, oh, there was no pain,
it was great. Meanwhile, deep in the subconscious mind, we're

(25:31):
totally disempowering our next generation and ourselves, and so we're
giving our power away because of fear, fear of pain,
right and so and it's oh, it's so modern, But like,
imagine the kind of being that could be born from
that pain that how they could you know, in a
spiritual sense, Like and I don't get into this with
most people because sometimes they can't comprehend it. But like,

(25:52):
if there's these agrigors born from experience, shared experience, it
continues on and on and on, then this parasitic being
that's feeding on birth could totally exist in those realms
and would have been born through that, you know. And
so yeah, there's and that's just one example. There's many,
many more of different kinds ether they used. They experimented

(26:14):
with so many different drugs before they finally came on
the epidural, which is the main way that they go now.
And so the epidural just numbs the woman from like
the chest down, I mean, the you know, the abdomm down.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
How much do you think technology, our modern technology that
we utilize in childbirth every day is affecting this field.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
I think that it is affecting a lot, and I worry.
So one of the things the reasons I'm feeling drawn
to really speak out about a lot of this is
because I feel like we're at the precipice where weak
as a species could lose birth. I feel like we
could become so industrialized, especially going into this transhuman world,
that we would just give all of our power to technology,
and technology could take it away from us. And I

(26:57):
mean not like intentionally, because it's just like the Twilight
Sleep women wanted it. They wanted it because they didn't
understand the complexity and then power that they had, they
gave it away. And it's the same with our with
right now, coming into this realm of like new technology,
we could easily just be like, oh, I'm just going
to schedule my c section, da da da, or sure
I'll donate my womb to like the thing that's going

(27:19):
to start birthing babies and gestating them. You know, who knows.
I don't know where we're headed. I know that technology
is growing leaps and bounds, and I'm very I feel
like the more we can embody ourselves and embody our
literal procreation, we can we can go from being like
fear based, easy to control masses to like in our bodies,

(27:41):
fully empowered, confident co creators. And it's you know, it's
that's a big one. So birth practices now I mean,
there's countries with ninety percent cesarean rates scheduled cesarean rates,
and in the US we're not. We're pretty far behind that, thankfully,
but it's becoming a strong concern. And there's nothing wrong

(28:03):
with cesareans if they're needed, you know, but I do
think that scheduling them for fear and convenience is dangerous
territory because there's a lot of things that happen, like,
for example, a baby is born sterile. So no, the
gut biome is sterile right when the when the baby
passes through the mother's vagina and comes out into the world,

(28:24):
they get inoculated and so and that's another reason why
babies are always putting things in their mouth. They're inoculating their
gut microbiome so that they have the ability to break
stuff down. Because we are a community of billions trillions
of beings, microbiome and cells all working together. And so
when we're able to acknowledge that this all comes from

(28:46):
we're actually inheriting our microbiome from our parents and the
same from the planet. Like there's a genetic inheritance that
we need to start talking about. It's a right, you know.
I have the right to inherit my family's genetic biome.
I have the right to inherit inherit a world that
hasn't been mauled by genetic mutations, you know, but yet
that's just happening. And so it's something that we started

(29:08):
We need to start talking about that, because it's the
DNA has a resonance, and there's like, you know, there's
the idea that we've been manipulated for you know, many
many generations now, from like all the way back to
like Egypt or beyond right Atlas and Atlantis, whatever, there's
all these times that we might have been manipulated and
maybe our spirit gene was turned off or no, no, no,

(29:28):
there's all these theories, right, but still there's like a
resonance in our DNA. And I was having this awesome
conversation with a Hindu man the other day and we
are talking about he believes in Hinduism that every human
has gone through the incarnation of every single organization like
organism on the planet, because each of these has a
sensory perspective that we need in order to be fully human.

(29:52):
Because we're like the we've become like kind of the
most sensory capable of all beings and so in that
just you know, from that's the Hindu perspective. And now
take that to the next level and look at our
genes and our DNA, and we have this DNA of
all these other beings in our in our body. You know,
we literally have the ability to resonate with and empathetically

(30:16):
connect with all beings our in their ecosystem, all of
our relations. Right, so this is something that you know,
we need to be able to preserve. And when we
can do this in a way that causes like love
and connection, then I think that that will really activate
our humanity.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
It makes me wonder how much vaccines and the many
different types of inoculations that are forced upon a child
is hindering that connection and the natural ability to develop.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Yeah, it does. And so there's a lot of you know,
they say that like all of our like I said,
the lens of our perception of our self and reality
is completely constructed by our our in utero experience, what
we're experiencing in the womb, our birth, and our formative years.
And then what happens is all that stuff goes unconscious,

(31:10):
so we're not noticing it. But we know the Florence
skulshan metaphysician from the thirties, has a book called The
Game of Life and How to Play It, and she
talks a lot about how to deprogram the subconscious mind.
But like what she's talking about is the subconscious mind
is like a servant to us. It's like always trying
to serve us and what our beliefs are, our formative beliefs.

(31:32):
If we believe the world is scary, unsafe, disconnected, and
that we don't have power, we're going to constantly be
replaying this throughout our entire life because our subconscious mind
is so committed to serving us. And what we've told
it is the truth, our truth, right, our subjective truth.
And so this is something that unless you do the
work to like get in there and kind of help

(31:54):
re establish this, break those old records and re establish
what you actually believe and want to believe. And it
takes a lot to get to that subconscious mind, you know.
And then the super conscious mind she talks about is
the mind that's like connected to source. So that's like
that you could just jump past a lot of that
inner drama by connecting to source, and that helps move
it through. But like what we say, what we believe,

(32:17):
how we like the patterns that we create in our reality,
these give us clues into what we believe. So like
before I start with any when when I'm talking about birth,
it is like, what do you believe about birth? Because
that will tell you what your kind of unconditional programming is.
And most of us have come into the world in
a scary way. Most of us were born in hospitals.

(32:38):
Most of us were born in bright lights and beeping
and mom being scared or in pain, or dad not
knowing what to do. So we you know, of course
we're going to feel these ways. Of course we're going
to feel uncertain to connect with each other. Of course
we're going to feel the world is a scary, you know,
malicious place. Like of course, I mean this is our
foundational belief system, you know. So whereas imagine you have

(33:03):
a father who understands that his role is to be
the protector of the birth field. His role is to
make sure that birth field is safe from any outside dangers.
Like for example, if I'm birthing in the middle of
the wilderness, you know, and I'm just in it, I'm
totally like open, and I'm vulnerable, and I'm my body
is just getting open, and all of a sudden a

(33:24):
bear comes. What's gonna happen. I'm going to see the bear,
and I'm gonna be afraid. That fear is going to
tell my body it's not safe to birth here. My
body will stop unless I'm too far along. But if
I'm like, haven't opened all the way, my body will stop.
I will get somewhere safe away from the bear, and
then I can birth again. So this is the natural
cycle of the body. If I'm afraid of birth, I

(33:45):
can't do that right. But if I can release my
fear and trust the process, I can get open. But
if I'm in that space getting open, and my husband
is here and or my tribe and they're like, chase
the bear away, so I never even see the bear,
or I know I'm safe, then you know I can
continue to birth. And so that's his job, or the
masculine role, or the birth you know, team's role is

(34:06):
to keep x outside fear from coming to the woman. Now,
the other part of that is sometimes we have our
own interfere so he can say, if he knows me
really well, he can ask me questions like what's what's
you know, what's what are you feeling right now? Or
what are you feeling any fear? How can I help?
How can I support? He can just kiss her, you know,
because sensuality activates all these beautiful hormones that you can

(34:30):
actually have an orgasmic birth, you know, and that happens
with touching and connection and kissing, massaging and holding and
all the things that got the baby in can get
the baby out, and you can have these erotic birth experiences.
But not in a hospital. That's weird, right right. But
the problem, another problem with hospitals is that and I

(34:50):
don't mean this across the board, but often what happens
is that they're trained to look for the worst case
scenario and tell the parent the patients about it. So
you tell a mother this happened to my cousin, Oh
my gosh, that baby is too big. We can't it's
not going to come out. We're going to have to
induce right now, or you will not be able to
have that baby. Seventeen year old cousin of mine, Oh okay, yeah, yeah,

(35:12):
for sure, I want the baby out. Too big. That's terrifying,
you know. And now the birth starts in fear disempowerment.
We have to help you, we have to fix you.
That was I mean, I was irate. I had to
leave because I couldn't stop it at this point. It
was it was just the industry taking over and I
had to step back. You know, actually was causing more
problems because I was like, that's not true. It's not true.

(35:34):
Your baby's not too big. Don't listen to them.

Speaker 1 (35:37):
You know, since you but it started doing this, have
you noticed more people becoming aware of the problems with
our modern birthing systems and maybe looking more into the alternatives.

Speaker 3 (35:53):
Unfortunately, No, I mean, there was in the eighties and nineties,
there was a what in the eighties especially, there was
definitely like it was coming up, and then with like
the Mina main and a lot of the midwiffree, the
reactivation of midwiffree, there was a big movement. It seemed
like it was going to get better and better. People
were starting to learn about fertility awareness methods. They were
starting to learn about how you could actually play such

(36:16):
a big I mean, that book that I was talking
about with the Olympic imprinting information comes from a book
called The Secret Life of your unborn baby by this
man Bernie Thomas Vernie. That was an eighties that it
came out. We've known this stuff, but unfortunately the fear
has been revving up so hard and like people have
been coming down. So for example, traditional midwiffree you learn

(36:39):
from a midwife that's been doing it forever. You apprentice,
you do it for a certain amount of time until
you're comfortable, you take on your own role. Well, now
what's going on is that there's licensing, so midwives become licensed.
Oh now insurance will pay for it if they're license.
But if they're license, they can't deliver twins, they can't
deliver breach births, they can't go past a certain you know,

(37:00):
I think it's forty two weeks. So there's all these
things that they're not allowed to do to keep their license.
So there's being more regulated. Women are losing power that
you have to birth out without the midwife now because
if you want to have twins at home, or you
want to have a breach birth, or you want to
go past the time that they think, you know that
the industry and there's you know, I think that there's
a lot of like it's like safety rails. You know,

(37:21):
they're trying to like create safety rails for people, but
they're the problem again, is that birth, the lens of
birth isn't that it's sacred. The lens of birth isn't
that it's a powerful initiation. It's that it's a traumatic experience.
It has to be monitored by the hospital, you have
to go. It's it's a condition, a condition, you know.
And I think that's gotten more prevalent. And I think

(37:42):
with like epidurals and potocin, which is like they came
up with that, you know, I don't remember exactly when,
but it's because it's mainstream now, and so you go
in and if you're not progressing the way you're supposed
to do, then you give you potocin. When potosin comes
from like large animals, I think it's a I think
it's a horse. And so the uterine of a horse
needs more, It has a different like, it's it's stronger.

(38:05):
So you end up having stronger contractions that are harder
to withstand as a as a woman, and you're you've
got an IV and you're you gotta sit down with
your IV. You gotta be stationary. You can't move your body.
You have to sit there and you're like in bright lights.
People come in and out that you don't know. Like
that is the worst environment. You're you're you cannot create
the field. You can't. You can, I mean you can,

(38:27):
but it's harder. You have to really like not let
them get in and get super into yourself and like
hopefully you have a really good birth team that can
hold that shit at bay if you're going to birth
in a hospital, because you're gonna hear all the scary
things that they're gonna want to tell you. Oh, she's
not progressing her heart rates not like this, this is this, this,
this this, And then all of a sudden, your fear
it starts to come in and the breaks and then

(38:47):
potocin pushes it open and then it's so painful up
a dural. Oh I can't feel anything, and I'm just
gonna wait for the baby to come up, you know,
and this is this is the process. Oh and then
that's not working. C section hospital can say we did
everything we could if the baby dies, but we still
have a large morability rate for mothers and babies. We

(39:08):
shouldn't have what we have in this country. Considering the
amount of medical potentials for saving lives. Yet we do,
and so it's but again it's all the lens. But
I feel like with the modernization and the technology that's
come up in the last you know, several decades, it's
actually taking us backwards, not forwards in birth. And with
the all the like logistics around licensed midwives. You know,

(39:31):
there's all these things they can't do. So then again
it's taking it backwards, making it more medicalized and less
and less free. There's a movement there is a movement
called free birth, and that's been good. But one of
the problems with free birth is that you have all
these women berthing on their own. And I appreciate that
a lot, But there's so much wisdom in the midwif
free field. There's so much wisdom in this, like in

(39:52):
birth professionals that know how to be with a woman, like, Okay,
you've got swelling, a swelling cervix, let's pop you up,
put your butt in the air, take the baby off,
let the swelling come down. Now you can open up
and give birth. No, you don't need a c section
because of that. Right, So there's there's so much knowledge
that is going to be gone if we don't protect it.
And so I as much as I love and appreciate

(40:13):
the free birth movement, I do really strongly feel like
we need to protect the traditional midwiffree.

Speaker 1 (40:18):
Knowledge and their movement.

Speaker 3 (40:22):
It's about decolonizing birth. So it's like we've been are
industrialized and the birth process is industrialized, and so it's
taking it back and just giving birth that you're you know,
on your own, you know, and there are you know,
people that like support that, like you can have mentors
and things. And I don't know as much about that
because I've gone really into the into the midwif free

(40:43):
stuff because I love the wisdom that comes from them.
I've been at plenty of births where like, had I
not witnessed a midwife or doctor coming in with some
like tried and true techniques, that that could have gone
a lot worse. So I feel like they're important to
hold that space. And I've babies that have come out
that needed a little extra something and the midwives and

(41:04):
doctors know how to do that. Like in Costrica, there's
a doctor that comes to you at your house, I mean,
and that's what we used to do here, Like doctors
used to be taught that when you come into the
room of a birthing mother, you have to make sure
that she feels really safe with your entrance. You can't
just come in. You have to like kind of prep her. Oh,
doctor's here, someone's coming in. You know, you know this person.
You know. It's like the field is delicate and it

(41:26):
can easily be Like, I mean, think about how easy
it is to go from love to into fear, you know,
with one word, that.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Makes a lot of sense. You touched on the initiate
roles in birth feminine, masculine, and baby. Mostly the masculine.
But let's get a little deeper into that, tell us
a little more.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
Yeah, So the woman's initiation is to surrender. Her initiate
role is to surrender to her body and trust. So
that's huge. How we are born is how we will
birth because we've only experienced that, right, unless we've done
all the work right. But like, if I have never
thought of birth ever, and all of a sudden I'm pregnant,

(42:06):
then I'm generally going to give birth the way I
was born unless I sit there and I do the
work and I can. And so that's the nice thing
about pregnancy. Is that you have this very malleable time.
Bodies are shifting. You know, you don't look the same
when you're nine months pregnant that you did when you
were made in you know. And so there's this process
of becoming a mother that physiologically happens to your body.

(42:29):
And so it's a time where really flexible and we're
really able to shift and thaw the like emotional landscape
that we have, finding those places of resistance and fear
and moving through them. So there's a really great practice.
It's it was the birthing from within folks. Pam England
came up with this practice, and what it is is
you imagine the worst case scenario, the thing you're most

(42:52):
afraid of, and not death, but like everything else up
to the point of death. You imagine that happening in full, full,
vivid color, right, and then you imagine it again a
second time. But the second time you don't change anything.
You just imagine yourself coping with strength in each of
these situations. So let's say I'm terrified of like a

(43:14):
sea section, and I imagine like I'm at home, I
can't I can't open, so I'd spent days. I need
to get to the hospital. I have to like have
potocin or I have to go have a sea section.
You know that could be my fear. Then I imagine
a second time, but I see the same thing happening.
I'm at home, I can't open I have to go
to the hospital and adults. But every time, I'm like,

(43:35):
I'm like strong in the decision. I'm coping with that
with strength. I see myself moving through the entire process
with strength and like coping with it with resilience. It's
not as scary now. I know I can get through it.
So we look. We have to as a mother, you
have to face your fears. You have to recognize your fears.
You have to acknowledge them. You have to embrace them.

(43:56):
You have to understand the shit's gonna hurt. I mean
people are there's a lot of people that I want
to use pain or I say pain is passage. Pain
is like a part of that passage. It's like the
thing that makes you strong. It's the fire that burns
you to become the phoenix. Right, you have to go
through this pain, but it's not hurting you. It's just
like when you work out or you climb a mountain
and you've got like you feel or you're doing super

(44:18):
intense yoga. When you're doing it, it hurts, but it's
hurting good, right, It's strengthening you, it's making you better.
So when we come into first of all, pain in
our society, Oh pain killers don't take tail and all
I mean advil just don't feel the pain. Nah, man,
we need to feel that pain. We need to actually
feel the pain. We need to relax our bodies, let
our endorphins kick in the dopamine. We have everything we need.

(44:40):
Matter of fact, the hormones are the endorphins that are
present when you do heroin, when you do ecstasy, when
you smoke pot. All those things are right here, even
mushrooms and DMT they're all released during birth. So the
more you can relax your body, you actually have inside
of you this biochemical laboratory that will release these things

(45:00):
and deal with the pain. So like when I was
getting birth, I'm breathing, I'm relaxing. More I relax, I
feel the pain comes up, and so like it's like
coming up and then all of a sudden instead of
like trying to get away, is like pulling myself up
higher in my awareness. I relax, I dive in like
a pool. I go right into the pain. I breathe
into that pain. And what happens is the dopamine kicks in,

(45:24):
the endorphins rush. I start to feel better and it's
never And the more I do this, every contraction, I
don't resist, I relax. I resist, I don't resist, I relax,
I relax. I feel the resistance. I intentionally relax. This
is the initiation of the mother to fully trust her body,
to fully relax, and to also during the pregnancy. Get

(45:44):
this shit clear. A lot of us don't't ever talk
about what we want with our babies, how we want
to raise them, how we want to discipline them, what
our goals are when we have like that's just stuff
we like. When we're getting into relationships, we need to
start with that, Like do you want kids? Yes? Okay, Well,
how do you want to raise them? These questions are
important because what happens during a birth is this shit
comes up in the mom's mind, all these fears. Like

(46:07):
there was a story where a mother she didn't that
they didn't they tell death to his part at their wedding.
So she was fixating on this and she wasn't progressing
in labor. Midwife asks, is something on your heart? I
didn't say. We didn't say until death to his part,
he is gonna leave me. Well, they brought in a pastor.
They did it right there on the spot, and the
birth half like that, you know. So the mother has

(46:30):
to become a clear mind, trust and complete surrender. And
when she can do that, the birth is just it
happens so smoothly. So that's her initiate role surrender and
trust the father guardian of the birth field to be
that strong rock that can withstand the storm of her
emotion and be able to still hold loving space regardless

(46:53):
and not take it personally. Understand, this is hormonal shit,
you know, And like I say that because women we
I'm not own it hormonal when pregnant, you know, like
we do. I got mad. I met one woman and
she was telling me, oh, my husband's breathing. It just
drove me crazy. And I was like yeah, so but yeah,
like stuff like that, you know, so we get all

(47:16):
these emotions. Some women get mad at the man for
like having that she has to go through pregnancy. He
doesn't have to like this. This stuff comes up, So
man's got to be solid. He's got to be able
to hold his ground like a warrior, not a violent warrior,
but a loving warrior, you know, a warrior piece who
can just be like, I feel you, I understand, I

(47:37):
feel you. I'm empathizing, I'm connecting. I'm not taking it personally.
I'm right here for you. I will not leave you. Know,
I'll be there in the room with you. I'll massage you,
I'll hold you, i'll kiss you, I'll do whatever you
need to like help you release your fear. And that
is the most powerful thing because one of the other
things that has to be released during those initiations is

(47:57):
that the mother is never going to be a maiden again.
She's he's never going to be able to live for
herself by herself, without any responsibilities, even when she's old,
She's always going to be a mom. The maiden is done,
and that is a hard thing for a lot of
women to release. There's like a part of us that
wants that's like, we want to be able to live
for ourselves and make our own decisions and not think
about others. That happens, this beautiful flower of a maiden

(48:21):
is going to become a fruit that's round and not pretty.
It is pretty, but not like a flower. Right, And
then you know, so that happens, and the more we
can release into that as women, the better. And the
same thing with the man. He was a bachelor, he
had freedom, he could do whatever he wanted. Now all
of a sudden, he's the rock. He can't go anywhere.
He's got to stay right here. He's got to make
sure these kids are safe. He's got to make sure

(48:41):
she's safe. And I mean, of course that's not the
only thing, but like that's a masculine role. He's got
to be present in his heart and mind in that
family and be able to hold that kind of sacred space.
So his right of passage is to become the spaceholder, right,
And that is in when you and a birth with
a man, It's my favorite. I love I love women too,

(49:04):
but like I love seeing the moment when the man
father sees his child for the first time in Christ,
even the most tough guys they hold their baby and cry.
It's like, is this bond that just happens and he
starts to recognize, like, wow, I'm literally responsible for the
life of this being. I can't just do what I
want to do. I gotta make sure this this little
one's safe, you know. And so it's like changes you

(49:28):
from like a bachelor to a protector to a warrior
and like. And then the right of passage for the
baby is the imprint. Baby is completely wide open, totally
a blank page, you know, with the exception of the
limbic imprinting within the womb and the and the sperm
and egg. But still baby's receptive. It's like a sponge
coming out.

Speaker 1 (49:48):
I am.

Speaker 3 (49:48):
I'm experiencing the world and it's just this wide open heart.
And so how the birth and how the you know,
how the pregnancy, birth and formative years happen. That's the
right of passage of each baby is to be the receiver,
to fill that color, you know, to color the page.
What are we gonna be? Who are we gonna be?
And so it's just full innocence. The baby's right of

(50:10):
passage is the right of innocence. And how we as
parents learn how to hold that. And of course we're
gonna have problems. We're gonna have times where it's hard,
We're gonna i mean, there's sleepless nights challenge is like crazy,
and so that's why the birth is so powerful. If
you have an empowering birth experience, you're not gonna have
as much postpartum depression. You're not gonna have relationships spurring apart.

(50:34):
If you feel super loved and supported by your man
when he's there in the birthing room with you, you're gonna
reflect on that, and it's going to fortify the relationship
when you're not getting sleep and one of you is
sleeping and the others up with the baby, you know,
and all throughout the whole life of the child. It's
such an important it's such an important part of our

(50:55):
cro creation.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
Last few minutes we have, let's talk a little bit
more about the permaculture of birth and regenerative birth.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Yeah, so what we were talking about around you know,
regenerative birth being how do we give birth thinking about
it in a place where each generation is getting better
and better, so we actually have you know, we have
these perceptions where I want my daughters to have a

(51:27):
better birthing experience. I want my sons to know how
to hold space for their partners. That is so important
to me because it's regenerative. Right now, we're coming art
the soil of birth is depleted. You know, the microbiome
of our planet is depleted. Like this, they go hand
in hand. How we perceive ourselves is the foundation from

(51:51):
which we treat our world. And so if we are
depleted and our children are depleted, and every time we
give birth, it's less and less empowering, and we're gonna
end up having these degenerative birthing experiences versus regenerative. So
that's really really important to me. And you know, it's
it's a natural ecological process. I mean, if all animals
give birth, all we give birth, we have the ability

(52:14):
to do it, like it's not something that needs a
medical intervention. We actually are totally equipped, you know. And
there's so like the first the first part within permaculture
birth is you know, the ethics of permaculture are earth care,
people care, fair share. So EarthCare is like in our birthing.
There's also a ton of waste, like actual pollution in

(52:37):
the birthing industry. There's like these gloves, there's you know,
the needles, there's all the like pads that you birth
on and throw away. There's like ton of trash that's
that's accumulated from that, And I think that is really
important that we start to consider, like the effect including diapers.
I mean, I clot diaper all my kids, and to
be honest, they were out of diapers before too, every
single except one because he has special needs. But the other,

(52:59):
the other one all for out of diapers before too.
No problem, they felt wet when they were wet. They
didn't have a heaping mountain of trash that they've created,
you know, within two years of their life. Oh that
was another thing, like karmicly I feel drawn to. I'm like, well,
I don't want my children to be pollution producers just
because they exist. And it's the same with birth, Like

(53:20):
I don't want to give birth in a way that
I'm creating all this you know, trash. So that's something
that I think we need to talk about as well
within the birthing realm. And then you know observing, you know,
observing and around. Oh yeah, so earth care, So that's
one people care. We've touched a lot about that. How
do we nurture birth, How do we nurture each other?
How do we actually like empower each other because there's

(53:41):
every single person is doing their best, you know, and
I don't. I'm not trying to vilify an industry, I'm saying,
it's not the individuals in the industry, it's the machine itself.
And I think, you know, for where we are, I mean,
there's this parasitic whatever you want to call it, puppet
mass that exist in our world and that they might

(54:03):
very well feed off of the looche of birth. And
it's a humongous amount of it because of that birth field.
So that's something that I think is really important to
nurture the people care and take it back and then
the fair share, like I was saying in the beginning
of this permon culture question, like making sure that every
generation has it better than me, better than I had it,
better than you had it, better than we have it.
Like if we can keep going better and better into

(54:25):
like more empowering home birthing, and and it doesn't have
to be at home. I mean there can be birth
centers and things, or even hospitals can be the right
setting if the lights are low, if people know not
to just bust in, like oh here, come on, all
of you observing new medical students, come watch this woman
give birth. You know, yeah, it's like the worst, right, So,

(54:46):
like there's just ways that we could re establish to
create a safe space for women to birth. That's really important.
And those are just little changes like in a hospital.
If you just if people set out to say, okay,
my you can do a birth plan. Everyone can create
a birth plan, and they have to in the United States,
they have to honor that. So if I write down

(55:06):
my idea of what I want for my birth, I
want a natural birth. I want to make sure that
people are you know, not just barging in. I don't
want to be attached to an IV. I want to
have a yoga ball because that really helps. The yoga
ball you sit there and you can just you know,
rotate your hips or bounce or do whatever you need
and it's like you can get mobile without getting tired.
You know, you can just kind of I want a bathtub.

(55:27):
I want all these things. You write that in your
birth plan. If there's a complication, talk to my husband,
don't talk to me, right, you put that in. If
we create this is this is a we call this
the least change for the greatest effect. So, because in
the United States we have so much rights around our
birthing in the hospital, we can each do that and
establish how that works and don't let the fear in.

(55:49):
It's that small. So that's another part of the permaculture principles,
you know, integrate rather than segregate, like the more of
us that are working together to consider birth as a
right of passage and see if it's just a change
of your lens, you're just picking up different glasses and
putting them on. Oh wow, birth is extremely sacred. That's cool.
You know. It's like not just a terrified medical event,

(56:10):
you know, or the sin in which I have to
suffer because someone in the past did something wrong. You know,
that's been one within certain Christian faith. There's like some
people that perceed it as like the retribution of the
of eves, you know, eating of the apple and an
awl stems from Plato's dualism, which is kind of interesting
because early Christians and early Jewish traditions don't see the

(56:34):
body as sinful, and they don't see sexual union as sinful.
They see it actually as a prayer. And so it
was this Plato kind of introduced the idea that like
the soul and the flesh are separate, and that you
have to go towards the soul and repress the flesh.
That the early Roman Catholic Church embodied and put this
shame into us. And it's not actually for us to have,

(56:56):
Like we don't need to live in shame of our bodies.
Our bodies are beautiful. They're actually given to us by God.
You know. It's like, of course we're going to be
able to feel all the things that we have if
we If where I couldn't feel all the beautiful sensations
of sexuality and then be able to bring that into
my birth and have like an orgasmic childbirth, I wouldn't
have like all of the I have like this, like

(57:18):
I said, the biochemical laboratory inside myself, and all I
have to do is let myself feel it. It's powerful,
you know, And I think that that needs to be
shifted too, is to perceive it as sacred, perceive it
as a rite of passage, see it as something that's
normal and natural.

Speaker 1 (57:32):
This is such great information. And you're also working on
a book about this fairy topic. Tell us a little
bit about what the audience can expect from that.

Speaker 3 (57:44):
Yeah, So I go into like the I really try
to like construct the lens in a sense, decolonize the
birthing process, see it as natural. Really invite the masculine
back in because I think that part of the patriarchal
issues that we're experiencing in the last however many years,
like generations. I think patriarchy is a result of this

(58:06):
disconnection from the birth field. I think the men didn't
know what to do or how to do it, and
they didn't feel included and that kind of birth some
of this, and there's also I guess so I also
get into that. I get into like how our bodies
are you know, we're colonized, you know, through like this
agricultural press perspective of like ownership, land ownership, and then

(58:26):
therefore I want to make sure my children, my genetic
progeny are inheriting my land. Therefore this woman has to
be stuck to me forever. You know. That's kind of
these ideas. But I break it down with more historical
context and more well thought out written ways, and so
that's it kind of go from that realm of like
how did this all start to like how do we
move forward from here? The books got a lot about

(58:48):
the right of passages, fertility, rights of passages, conception, how
do we do conscious conception? I talk about the masculine
feminine and baby rolls within that a little bit more,
also have birth stories interwoven in from people that have
donated their stories. My own five are in there. And
then I have a bunch of actual rights of passage

(59:10):
ceremonies in the back, like here's all the things you
can do. Here's some examples of how you can turn
this into a rite of passage, so you can do
this ceremony to be able to embody that. And then
there's a references in the back for further reading and things,
so people can kind of get deeper because it's a
rabbit hole, and the further you go in, the more
you realize that you know. The birth really, in my opinion,
is the number one thing we can take back and

(59:32):
change the trajectory of humanity like so much. If we
can just birth in peace and love and empowerment, then
we as a species really change the trajectory that we're
going on.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Well, to close out, give us your final thoughts and
remind the audience how they can find out more about you.

Speaker 3 (59:52):
Yeah, so you can. I've on Facebook, Milana Bliss. Also
you can email me at Mama Lana Ama Laa Bliss
at Gmail. So that's m A m A l A
n A Mama Lana Bliss Bliss at gmail dot com,
and uh, I think that, you know, we I want
to say that to all those that have given birth

(01:00:14):
and didn't feel like it was empowering experience. Like there's
so much healing still in that and every one of
us does our best, and we all really you know,
come into it with what we have been given and
what we cultivate, and so there's a lot of pain
that I've experienced when I talk to people about birth
and fear, and I think that being able to look

(01:00:34):
at it and feel it and it can be scary,
but it's so important and I have no judgments about
any of it because I think that, you know, we,
like I said, we do our best. And I want
to send so much love to all the mamas and
papas and babies and all of us because we were
all born and we all have birth trauma and healing,

(01:00:55):
even the ones that were the most you know, amazing births,
there's still going to be something that came up. And
if there isn't that awesome. But yeah, I feel like
I just want to send out a lot of love
for all of us and for our inner children and
trust that we can do this, that we have the
opportunity to be able to re empower ourselves and decolonize

(01:01:16):
our birth process.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Wonderful. Thank you so much again, Alana, this was fantastic information.
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