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Speaker 2 (00:33):
I think it's just going to get weirder and weirder
and weirder, and finally it's going to be so weird
that people are going to have to talk about how
weird it is. Eventually people are going to say, what
the hell is going on. It's not enough to say
it's nuts. You have to explain why it's so nuts.

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The invention of artificial life, the cloning of human beings,
book contact with extraterrest trials, the systems which are in
place to keep the world saying are in utterly inadequate
to the forces that have been unleashed.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Welcome back to Forbidden Knowledge News. I'm your host, Chris Matthew.
Today my guest is Isaac co host of Hidden in
the Shadows podcast. Be sure to check out my films.
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Knowledge Neews at gmail dot com. Today I want to
welcome Isaac. He is co host of Hidden in the
Shadows podcast. He's a shaman and lead investigator of Hidden
in the Shadows paranormal Isaac, welcome, How.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
You doing doing good?

Speaker 1 (01:55):
It's great to have you man looking forward to our
discussion today. We're going to share your journey which includes
paranormal experiences and investigations, and you're also a shaman, which
we're going to explore a bit as well. There's a
lot to get into there before we do. This is
your first time on tell us a little bit about
yourself and let the audience know how they can find

(02:17):
out more.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Well names Isaac co host of Hidden the Shadows podcast
and co investigator with my wife, we're both She's also
the co host of Hidden Shadows podcasts and co investigator
of Hidden Shadows paranormal. We decided to keep hidden the
shadows for our paranormal team and podcasting because that's what
everybody knows us as been doing that for podcasting for

(02:42):
about five years and then the paranoral investigating for about four.
Podcasting is actually have cut us into paranorl investigating. Though
the paranormal has surrounded me and my wife for but
since we were kids, her since birth, because she was
born very powerful psychic medium as she still is today,
and me, I grew up on a very haunted ranch

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when I was a kid in Texas. Everything paranormal was
ever severely happened to me happened to me on that ranch.
But also as I grew up, had paramorle experiences. But
they really upticked when I met my wife and then
being dating her in early days. Uh, everything paranormal again
started happening around her because every house she's lived in,

(03:25):
every house she's going to live and is haunted.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
And it's because ghosts or attracted to her there. She's
like a night light in the nightlight, sorry, a search lights,
like a big search light in the in the paranormal realm,
So spirits are consistently attracted to her. So no matter
where we live, it's always gonna be haunted, and that's
something that we've come to accept. But also later, uh

(03:51):
doing doing paramol investigating is when we started figuring out
exactly who we are and why we are our purpose.

Speaker 1 (04:02):
Right on. Well, that's a great introduction. Maybe we could
start with how everything started for you, some of your
earliest experiences.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
Yeah, the ranch I grew up. It's in Blanco, Texas,
which is about an hour north of San Antonium. Population
was fifteen hundred when I left him. I'd have rowed
since then. I don't know, it's been years since I've
been back. But the ranch is out in the middle
of nowhere, and that's not exaggeration. Literally there's no street lamps,

(04:33):
there's no lights to drive to get there, so I'm
living there. When I was younger, I killed probably more
deer with my car than ever did with a gun,
consistently hitting them all the time. But no, that ranch,
I don't know acreage. I want to say two football
fields and with at about three in length if he

(04:57):
gets a good judgment of size. There were three points,
almost like a triangle, where me and my family, my
uncle and his family, and then my grandparents all lived
and we were separated by one hundred yards each. But
I commembered the early days of the first paranol experience.

(05:17):
I think I remember having when I was young because
me and my brothers were went out one night during
summer when we weren't in school, and we were up
to like one o'clock in the morning, and we decided to, hey,
let's go down to this down the road and across
the and jump the fence and go to this house
that you know, uncle has always told us of which
lived there or which died there? Right, and we did

(05:39):
hundreds and believe it or not, but we had experience
when we were younger, so we decided to go back
there again. And we took a camera old school, you know, nineties,
hold your shoulder camera and but basically I'm aging myself
right there. And we walked down the dirt road which
is about maybe forty fifty feet from the house, and
then defence is, you know, line the road on the left,

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and we second youngest brother he got a little further
than us, and my youngest brother was handling the camera
and leave me his work camera work rivals. Blair Witch
is how bad he is? But so we didn't catch anything.
And I remember walking with them and he, my second

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youngest brother, was ahead of me, and he there's a
woods that blocked the clearing before you see the house
or the barn kind of thing, and he was further
on before I broke the trees to see where he
was looking at, because he was just standing there staring,
and I said, hey, Gabe, what are you looking at?
And he just points and I look and the grass
is maybe up to my waist, so let's say about

(06:47):
three feet four feet up. And I see this white figure,
pale white figure stand up and turn around and walk away,
and we all just wow. I saw running back to
the house and stuff like that. But the best way
I can describe it looks like it looked like if
someone drowned and their skin was underneath the water for

(07:10):
a very very long time. Oh and it was just
like pale white, like no clothes. Nothing at all I
saw was like the ways stop. But I saw him
stand up and then turn around and walk back into
the darkness.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
Did it look solid?

Speaker 3 (07:22):
Yeah, wow, because the moonlight was out, so I can
we can kind of see what was going on. But yeah,
that's what we saw. We all hauled, asked, and I
know my young second young I asked my second youngest brother,
like he said, he just saw the head and like
he was like, is that someone out there? And that's
what he was staring at. He was trying to figure
outf someone was out there until he pointed when it
started standing up, and that's when I saw it stand
up all the way and turn around.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Wow, that's pretty crazy, man. So did anything else happen
related to that or in that same timeframe that may
have been connected.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
So later on, I would say when I was in
high school, because this happened to him, I was probably
like elementary and then that later on in high school.
Granted there's stuff happening in between. But relating to that
Pacific white guy, we call him the white guy. One
of my best friends, and I didn't have a car
if he was eighteen, So this is why when I
was sixteen, he had a car and he drove me

(08:16):
home and he had experiences there beforehand because me and
H were good friends. So he always came to my place,
but he never liked coming to my place. He didn't
have to, but he dropped me off and I remember
he was in a mood too. He's like, hurry, get ou,
I don't want to see nothing, and so I get out.
He drives literally The next day at school, he tells me,
I'm never going back to your place here again. I'm like,
you already said that. What happened this time, he said,

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because the ray of the road is to my house
is like a long maybe you know, a quarter mile
dirt road. It has an instant left. There's our instant
right turn and then instant left and then you get
to my my priory. When he was getting out that
long turn to get to the he looked over to

(08:59):
his way soon like a little pond or lake was
at some point in time, but it dried up a
long time ago, and this is all grass. And he said,
when he looked out towards that field, he saw the
white guy standing out there. But yeah, he saw the
white guy getting out there, and then like he basically
hauled ass and said, I owed him new shocks.

Speaker 1 (09:17):
No shit. So that's any ideas of what that could
have possibly been.

Speaker 3 (09:23):
But referring to the white guy, Yeah, the last person
to ever see him. Friend RONI in construction in my
early twenties. I think it was twenty and again I
think I didn't have a vehicle at the time whatever,
But no, because he picked me up and we go
to work. So he just bas just picked me up
and he dropped me off at at night. And he
said when he was leaving, he was on the highway

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and the highway has like a dip and a turn
that goes over a creek a little tiny bridge, and
that turn that goes up to the left like you're
going uphill and making a left turn. At the same time,
off to your right, there's a driveway that's gated and
that goes up to somebody else's property. And he's said,
when he looked over in the gated spot and my
little opening of dirt opening to the driveway, he saw

(10:05):
someone like haunched down and like in a fetal position
but basically just sitting down. And all he saw was
like the back of this person like like hunched down there.
He saw it for a second that who is hunched out?
You're naked, And he looked at oh crap, when he
fucking he hauled, asked and drove out of there and
stuff like that. Oh ship, do you think that was.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
More metaphysical or a physical creature of some sort.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Now that I've been part of the paranormal for years,
my best guess it's a It's either a rake or
a spirit of someone who drowned somewhere on the on
that land years ago, because there's a river or creek
essentially that runs near the property. But it's about a
good couple of miles away. But that's my best guess.

Speaker 1 (10:58):
Rake. You said a rake of her did this before?
And I think I've seen some videos on YouTube that
claim to have shots of what they call a rake.
But for the audience that may not be familiar, can
you describe what this is?

Speaker 3 (11:17):
Funny enough, I never looked at too much in race
knowing what they are. But the rakes have been captured
on camera have a very close look wise, like they
have the same look as what I saw that pale
white human Lloyd figure. It looks longer, taller than and
it should be with a huge like hairless, like just

(11:39):
pale white looking genderless. It's just like a creature that
exists without in like almost cryptology, but also in the
paranormal world.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Yeah, the ones I've seen have really long arms, like
longer arms than anything else. Was that the same thing
you saw.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
I got a good look at his arms. He's always
just standing in the field staring. And the guy I saw,
like I said, he just looked like a pale white
guy or this pale skinned guy standing out there, no hair,
Like I said, I couldn't see a general because whatever,
but it was just like and the way his skin
looked was like he was drowned. Like how skin looks
like that's been in water for a long time, like

(12:17):
you know, de tearating away. So that's what maybe me
think he might have been a drowned victim. But then
I saw pictures of Rakes and I was like, kind
of looks like him.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
Right on, Well, let's get into a few more of
your experiences, and I also want to hear about some
of your wife's experiences as well.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Now, there's one time that happened that after talking to
a bigfoot enthusiast that I interviewed on my podcast, I
never took that experience as possible a bigfoot experience. But
then against this, this is central Texas, and like, why

(12:59):
would bigfoots be down there? But apparently there has been
sights anyway. One of the nights, the first nights that
scared the crap out of my friends. The one friend
that told me, like I said, they ruined this shock
because his name was Stephen, and I had another friend
named Matt, probably the best friends I had in my
high school years. Staying over at Steven's house or sorry,
at you know Steven's house one night and it was

(13:20):
a Saturday, and he asked, you want to spend the
night over, you know till Sunday and stuff like that.
I'll take you back and Sunday evening. I was like, yeah,
that's cool, and but I need to get my stuff,
and I asked my mom. So we both see me
and Matt Stephen drove with Stephen's vehicle all the way
back to my place. And as we got to the house, sorry,

(13:42):
I had to explain whoever it was city because it's important.
Matt was riding shotgun. Of course Stephen was driving. I
was in the back seat. So we get to the
house and the port slides off, so it's dark out there.
I'm like, oh, okay, and we get out and me
and Stephen get me and Stephen get out and Matt's
still in the car and I go, hey, you can't

(14:03):
gotta come. He say no, it's good. Out of the
way here like, are you sure. I was like, yeah,
I'll find I'll say here all right, because I've told
him stories about for my childhood and stuff like that.
So he's like, all right. Me and Stephen go in.
I have a small conversation with my mom asked me,
all yeah, le's fine. Whatever. So I go pick pick
up some stuff. I think we were in the house
total of maybe five minutes. And then as we're leaving,

(14:23):
I'm like, oh, let me turn the porch slight on
because it's dark hair at that I don't want to
walk in the darkness. Turn it on. We go down
the porch, We go up to the car. Matt is
now in the back seat with a freaked out look
on his pit on his face, and were like, what's
going on? He goes get in the car like like
what like get that car right out? Like oh, okay,
gee damn, So I thought my stuff in the trunk.
We get in and as we're driving away, he tells us, well,

(14:46):
why we're in the house, he said, literally, as I
closed the door, he hears a hoof stump, that's what
he described it in the distance, and then right next
to the car, so he looked around the hell, isaac
cat cows or horses out here, which is true. I
do have cowns out there, but I never wandered that
far towards our profit and off in a distance, then

(15:09):
ride next to the car, then off in the distance,
then right next to the car. He started freaking out.
He jumped in the back seat so he could see everything,
like all his surrounding. And then when he said he
was looking around, we heard like a tink like along
scratching against the side of the car, which he jumped
down in the fetal position and started like freaking out.

(15:30):
And he said he was literally about to start honking
the horn when I turned the porch slide on and
walked out. What was also interesting amongst that entire night
is that when we're driving away and he's telling this
is the story what happened, all the deer stood on
the side of the road and watched the sleeve, watched
the sleeve which they and he noticed that midway to

(15:53):
him telling the story, he goes, why are the deer
watching us?

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Wow?

Speaker 3 (15:58):
And we all looked at like, yeah, there's standing wat
It's the creepiest thing I've ever seen. From gear like
they just watched us leave and we get back to
Steven's Tauis, we'll look at the side of the car, put
our flashlights on. The on the car seats is a
scratch and yeah, there's a very thin nail size scratch
from one in the car all the way to the other.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
Wow.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Yeah, easy to say. They never came back to the house.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I bet would you say there's anything historically in the
area that you were that may have contributed to the
energy or activity that was there.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
The land. I don't know if ever been at Texas,
but yeah, Texas, the hill country is where I was living.
There's a lot of limestone in the ground, so much
so that you can't dig ever so how far deep
without hitting it, and therefore you have to break it
up and get it out before you go any further.
And I was told that limestone a granite, A lot

(16:55):
of that as well, holds a lot of energy. But
right that land out there, my grandfather bought in the
mid seventies, and yes, where we put our three trailers
and they started building homes afterwards on that property. But
something I I why can I witness or I learned?

(17:16):
But I figured out is that there's a big tree
right when you drive in and the and the entryway
to the ranch on to the right. Now it's not
on our property to the other side of the fence,
but hanging over so close that it might as well be.
And I noticed one of the days when we were
walking there that there's one big branch just hanging over
and it had to ringed like a ring knot in

(17:39):
the tree branch, almost like if someone consists used a
pulley system over again and again and again and again
and again, wearing a giant knot in the tree like
over years. Yeah, this is Texas Blanco. The town of
Blanket was founded in the early eighteen hundreds. Wouldn't put

(18:00):
it past anybody if they were to hang anybody to
use that tree. It's so far out of town, so
out of the way that if you want to do
so without anybody knowing you were doing it, that would
be a good spot. Plus, you have two rivers on
each side of this area. They can easily throw a
body in and never see it again. Yeah, that's a suspicion.

(18:23):
I'm not saying that's the reason why that land is
so haunted, but the experiences there alone is just and
then one of the times it was the weirdest out
of all. And this is I would say, before I
had my ability. But I've already moved and left, and
I came back to visit my dad and my grandparents

(18:44):
in the area around that branch and stuff like that,
and imem were staying out with my dad and he
was at my uncle's place and we're going to have
dinner there. So instead of taking my car at night,
I'd walk. And it's not a very far walks if
it was in blocks, I would say less than a block.
And I was going up the dirt road to my

(19:06):
uncle's place, and there's a whoever owns the land on
the right side of us installed the fence that is
probably a good story tall, like this big giant metal
fence and very sturdy, very expensive looking anyway. So I'm
walking and I'm just thinking to myself, oh, man, hold

(19:26):
that happens out here. And I'll hear here bang like
something like slammed against that fence. Scared the shit out
of me. And I look and I see like a
four or five point buck deer. It's like wobbling away
like it just ran at the fence and where it
was standing when it hit the fence. If the fence
wasn't there, it would have ran right into me. I

(19:49):
did not even hear it. Huhang, opposite direction the only
reason deer would even come at me with purpose. And I
remember I was talked to my wife about it. We

(20:09):
thought maybe it could have been skinwalker with purpose I
coming after me directly. I mean that was just a
theory of mine. But like that didn't make any sense.
I didn't hear it coming and it just if it
fence wasn't there with but it literally read right into me. Wow.

(20:30):
Maybe I can fill up for about two hours just
talking about that right now.

Speaker 1 (20:34):
I'm crazy. Now you mentioned ski walker. Is that something
that's prevalent in that area as well? Skin walker phenomena.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
You think it wouldn't be because it's solely a Navajole
legend and stuff like that, But there have been skim
walker sightings all across the United States from different Native
American tribes. In Texas itself at a very Native American
presence there, Like months ago that one of his friends

(21:06):
was down by the creek area fishing or trying to fish,
and he found a bunch of arrowheads Native American air
hits down by the creek area. I was like, oh crap. Yeah,
so he said there might have been Native American presence
in this area or even on our property at some
point in time, long ago. So another possibility wise funted.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right on. Well, before we get to
a few of your wife's experiences, is there anything else
that really sticks out? Any profound experiences that you've had?

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Not not me per se, but I guess the most
impactful and not packful one, but I guess the time
I actually saw anything. So me and my brother were
living up and we called it the pink House, which
really was it was now more of a yellow But
it's a two story building built by my grandfather my

(22:00):
uncles years ago, long before I was even born, and
they made it have concrete and it's a second building
with maybe eight rooms because my grandfather had thirteen kids,
so they needed space for all of them twelve kids, sorry, wow,
with thirteen kids, and I have twelve uncles and aunts
on my father's side, but so he needed a place

(22:22):
to put them off, and he built this second story
building and all those rooms. All my uncles and aunts
are long married, and living in other states. So me
in my early twenties asked my grandpa, can I live
up there and I'll pay your rent. It's like, oh,
that's fine. So me and my brother both live up
there and one of the knights, and we were working
overnight at the time, so we would wake up at
night and go to sleep during the day. But one

(22:43):
of the nights before work or I think I was
off or something, I'm like half awake, and then I
hear like a like a little girl saying, get up,
get up, get up, and then I hear a low
toed good and then wow bang, something slamms my my
night standing right next to me, and then the blink

(23:05):
of me waking up, and I see like a shadow
figure of like a little girl in like a Victorian
dress because I see all these like little doiley's and
lace and stuff like that, but it's all black, like
her hair, her skin, everything that's like shadow black, right,
And I rememberr wake up and I blink. I saw that,
and I blinked again and she was gone. And it

(23:27):
was interesting scary at the same time. Is that the
water bottles that are all my nightstand were ratting, like
someone just hit it like they were like like someone
just banged it and they were like vibating around. Yeah,
I mera got up and I went to my brother's
room and I said to them, I just saw My
brother says, oh, you saw her too. I'm like what
he's like. He's like, he said one of the nights

(23:47):
he saw her standing out the foot of her bed,
and then he told her to leave, and then he
just goes. I went back to sleep, and I was like,
you just blew that off. And I was like, yeah,
I don't know what she was when she was good
as a girl, little kid, I wantn't be scared of
like little kid goes to what's supposed to be scared
of about the coast demons?

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right? Well, I was going to ask you, was it
an overall malevolent feel to those experiences.

Speaker 3 (24:10):
That one? Yeah? Yeah, most of the others was just
like scared of shait you and stuff like that. But
like I said, I wasn't asware as I am now
when it comes to everything. Let her alone with my
skills that I now. But no, my wife she's had
had experiences of her own life and this is how
we always well, she always knew she had abilities because

(24:31):
every house she lived and was haunted. No one has
that kind of luck. Her earliest experiences was talking to
her grandfather who passed away when she was like two,
and she was in the crib talking and stuff like
her mom walked, He's like, who are you talking to her?
She goes, Grandpa never met him. I had no idea
who he was. This a picture, but she was talking to.

(24:52):
Besides seeing little kids around her house, a teenage girl
rocking in her chair in her bedroom one night. It's
like seeing a girl to stand at rocking in her chair,
like my wife has seen more than I ever am.
And then she kind of like shut off her abilities
until she met me. I want to say shut them

(25:13):
off entirely, but kind of like put a silencer on them,
and because she didn't want to deal with it. And
then meeting me and then early our dating stuff like me,
you know, telling hey, this is important, we need to
you know, strengthen your abilities and stuff like that is
when she started to divide, diving into more and we
started learning that she was an impat in the first

(25:36):
stages of what her like Maria imagining her abilities because
she can feel the emotions of the dead but that
was just one of her many abilities that she does now.
And I call her the jack of all trades when
it comes to psychic meets your abilities, because there seems
to be nothing she can't do. Her main focused skill
is remote viewing. She can find anyone anywhere at any time,

(25:59):
alive or dead. It does not matter, Oh you didn't
do is show or a picture of the person in boom.
She knows exactly where they are and what they're doing.
Scared of shout out a couple of my friends because
she described their rooms that she's never been in.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
Has she ever helped with any missing person cases or
anything like that?

Speaker 3 (26:17):
I get on her ass about it all the time,
but she has doesn't have very strong confidence in herself,
even though she's been right about everything she's ever done.
So I'm like, and she's I guess she's just afraid
of messing up, like not being the right person, Like
it doesn't matter if you give them the exact location
of the person, any kind of evidence would help them

(26:39):
find the person. So she's starting to get into it
more and looking into it like the last year, getting
better at it. But it's just a confidence thing. She
doesn't have too much confidence in herself to know that
I know she can. And that's how consistently you know,
telling you have to it's gonna be, you know, gotta
help these people and stuff like that. So besides helping
the dead as we do, she I told you need

(26:59):
to helping a living as well, because you can find
maturity people out there.

Speaker 1 (27:04):
Right on, now, you said you had uncovered abilities yourself
as well, and in your bio you say that you're
a shaman. Talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Now, it's just a part of an interview where we
derail because for the rest of the interview you're not
gonna want to talk about anything else than this.

Speaker 1 (27:31):
Right on, right on? Yeah, and before we get into it,
is there anything important that we should know before we
go and down that road? Oh?

Speaker 3 (27:40):
Necessarily. I mean the podcast was kind of the catalyst
for the parent the paranormal teams because we interviewed a
paranormal team on the podcast our first year, and that
paraoral team we interviewed disbanded literally a month after that interview,
and then half the team from that that disbanded paramormal

(28:01):
team created a new team that we ended up joining.
And it's because of joining them that I actually started
mastering what I could do. That happened literally months before
that interview. There was a member on that team, they Mike,
who became kind of my mentor, and he never heard
about what I can do or even even knew how

(28:23):
to even master the controller or do anything with it all.
All he really helped me with was learning to look
through my third eye, getting touch of spirituality, contacting my
spirit guides. That's side of the spiritual world is what
he really helped me with. I think we would discuss
like things I could do with my ability and how
we can better it and strengthen it to you know,

(28:44):
help people out and stuff like that. So he became
my mentor in that situation. And granted he's retired from
para investigating all together. He had a lot of medical
problems later in life and he just can't do it anymore.
But we still talk and stuff like that, and I
keep them. I consult with them on all different things
and what we're doing. So he's still kind of like

(29:06):
helping out. But as of investigating, no, he's not doing
anymore because the parent old team as it is right now,
it just me and my wife. We are always looking
for members, but no one ever wants to stick around
as we like to go into the most dangerous locations
that we can find, the most evil infested locations you

(29:27):
can even think of, if it's even infested. Hey, that's
exactly where we want to go.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
Wow. Right on. So tell us a little bit about
your journey of explorations of your abilities and how you
came into them.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
So great information for pretense. I have never been or
still isn't any kind of psychic medium whatsoever. I never
had any abilities up until September twenty twenty, never had
any inclinations acne me see or hear them any better

(30:06):
than anyone else can. But in September twenty twenty is
everything changed, the ability yet to be one hundred percent
to find awoke or came to me however you want
to put it. What happened is that I started feeling
the energy of the dead in my hands. It's the
best way I can describe it. The sensation feels like

(30:29):
when your hand goes like numb, like when you sit
on it too long, it could fall and falling asleep.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:35):
And it starts in the center of my palm, it
spreads out through my fingers, the closer or the stronger
the entity is. So in the beginning, I was like
a natural EMF detector, like I could know where spirits
are by just feeling around. But that was the first stage.
Second was my first ever pull when I encountered a
demon for the first time. Me and my son were

(30:56):
out in the backyard. I think I was barbecuing and
it was around Halloween and it was nighttime. He wanted
to be out there with me, and there's only one
light out there from the door, like right outside the
door where you can have any illumination. And he was
out there with me, and all of a sudden, he
started acting scared, like what's going on? It's going I

(31:16):
was like, And he's optistic and nonverbal, so we taught him. Great,
he could talk now, it's fine, but when he's he
was like three years old, he couldn't speak properly or
couldn't speak at all. So he taught him like like
basic sign language and stuff, so he can, you know,
tell us what was going on. And he was he
was signing like monster, like scared, like monster, what And

(31:38):
he was pointing out in the yard and I was like, oh,
and all of a sudden, my right hand started charging.
Is what that sensation I call it? It's that sensation
I call it charging. And I was looking a feeling around,
like what the heck's going on? And my Megan came
out and she was like, what's going on? What was killing?
And freaking out? And she goes, I don't know. He's
saying something's over there. He don't like it, and she's
tuning in over there. I was like, kind of what's

(31:59):
over there? But I do not like it. It's evil, right,
And I walked in the yard and start feeling around
and then I'll stay get more intense, and then almost instinctively,
I grip my hand like I'm trying to grab the air,
and I feel like this lightning strike go up my
entire arm all the way into my head. And as
I'm pulling whatever this is, and I just let go
because I don't know what that sensation was. And I

(32:19):
felt that energy like move into my arm and down
and into me. I'm like, what the hell was that?
And Meghan said it's gone. I ran away. I'm like, demon,
so you don't run away. But through practice in investigating
and of course having Megan, we figured out that's what

(32:41):
my hands are doing and is differentiating positive from negative.
So when my right hand charges, it's something evil, something dark,
something negative. Well, my left hand charges it's something positive,
something human, something on the positive side of spectrum when
it comes to you know, the paranormal, because usually and charges, Oh,
it's a person that's somewhere around right hand, Hey, get

(33:03):
your guard up because there's something evil around here. But
then the pulling sensation that that pole energy and absorb
it almost like a vacuum into my hand. The early days,
I would pull that energy into myself and my body
would become like a natural filtration system, turning that energy
into neutral energy. That would leave me in a breath
I got and when that happened, a chill run up

(33:26):
my spine and it would just exhale and I could
be sweating and aggregate weather and that would happen to
me like like you're cold out of nowhere. But that
practice pulling and transferring filtering started taking a toll on
me and started turning the hair on the right side
of my beard and my head gray. Great. I was
thirty four at the time. I was like, you see

(33:49):
me now, fine, But it was just like she was like,
you gotta find that what we do is this aging
you and it's only on the right side of my
body too. So luckily, my mentor Mike had a vision
or dream of the King Solomon's symbol and he was
like he didn't understand what this once and at the
time the team that we were part of had a

(34:11):
Jewish member and he posted in our group chats like
you gotta keep druid and said, you guys know what
the sign is A symbol is, And of course our
Jewish members like, oh, that's King solomon symbol, the symbol
that's on King Solomon's ring. So I looked up King Solomon.
I remember the story told me in my youth to
go into a Catholic church with my grandparents about the

(34:31):
story of King Solomon, about how he imprisoned seventy two
demons in his ring and used that somatic magic to
build his temple, all that story, and I was like, well,
the only person in history could do what I do.
Granted Solomon use magic, and I'm using some kind of
energy ability. It's within me. Let me try that. So

(34:52):
I bought a King Solomon replica ring, nothing special, just
steel and silver, and I got it for my pinky.
I remember I did a poll and I had the
energy in my hand, and I said, simply into the
ring and I closed my fist and any energy was gone.
It didn't go through me. I'm like, oh, interesting. And
I kept doing that over and over again. And then

(35:13):
my wife one day came into a room and goes,
what is that screaming and yelling? What is that? What
I like? And I said, did this? And I gave
her a show with the rings, like, oh my god.
She says she heard screaming and yelling and swearing coming
from the ring. Wow. And she tuned into it and
she said it looked like a prison cell while all
these dementor looking shadow figures like swirling around and hitting

(35:37):
the walls and then able to leave. And I go, oh,
so that's what it is. It's a prison. How it works,
I'm still not one hundred percent sure on but one
thing we've come to know for sure is that everything
that I sent to this ring never leaves, It never escapes,
and once it goes in, that's it. It doesn't exist

(35:58):
in our demential world anymore. Once it's in there. I
got asked one time, do I have a name for it.
At the time I didn't. I just call it simply
the ring. But over time I thought, let me call
it cienda fergo, which is Latin for no escape, because
everything goes in there and never leaves. But the the

(36:22):
what it looks like to me. Before I say that,
I have to explain how I know what it looks like.
So looking learning to look through my third eye, as
my mentor has trained me and taught me how to do.
It's not a vacuum that I'm creating with my hand.

(36:43):
If you're gonna if you can imagine strings of energy
coming from each of my fingertips firing out and wrapping
around an entity like a boa constrictor reeling and condensing
their energy to about signs of like a stress ball
in the center of my palm. And then I and
that energy to the ring, and it goes and gets

(37:03):
sucked as a ring and into that dimensional space wherever
the rain is or wherever that place is for the ring.
So that action of what I'm doing, that's what's happening.
In the early days, I would have to take your
right hand like hold it, and then I could see
into what I've come to call your mind forest. And

(37:24):
the mind forest is the subconscious part of everyone's mind
where all our darkness, our negativity, our subconscious emotions, our trauma,
all dwells and festers and builds that place where we
either constantly or sunconsciously put all our junk, essentially, and
I can see that place. And everybody's mind forest is

(37:44):
different from the foliage, from the trees, from the time
of day, from how vast or how condensed it is everyone.
And I've seen a lot of mind forest over my time,
probably more investigations that I've actually done. But yeah, and
I remove that negative energy from your mind. For us,
your main spirit it comes forward. And I've talked to

(38:06):
a collide scope of spirit guides. But that's why I
come to figure out and in the early days, yeah,
I would have to hold your hand to do that,
but figuring out that, hey, I can send these tendrils through.
Let's say, how we're talking right now through the camera
from where I am on my phone goes through and
my tendrils will pop out wherever you are, grab whatever

(38:27):
is in your home, pull it through the phone into
where I am, and then of course I've sent it
to the ring. So the best way I figured out.
It's like folding fourth dimensional space. Essentially, your phone is
where it is, mine is mine, and it would be
across the country. But when I pull you back to
back and I'm reaching in, grabbing and and pulling out
whatever is at your place, that's skill. That ability has

(38:51):
allowed me to help out seventy sorry now, sixty seven
different families over our time and individuals. Sixty seven home
cases me and a wife haven't done.

Speaker 1 (39:02):
Now. Do you also help with personal attachments, negative entities
or energies that attach to people themselves?

Speaker 3 (39:11):
All the above, right on, right on. I have helped
up with attachments, oppression, infestations, regular hauntings, everything you can
think of that requires me to remove something from someone's
place or attach to somebody. And the sixty seven home
cases happen all across the entire world. I have pulled

(39:36):
things from Australia, from China, from Ireland, from UK from Hawaii,
from the Belize, from the Philippines, from Argentina, from Canada,
from Mexico, and all across the United States. I have
helped people across the entire world. Is it doesn't matter
where you are. All that matters is that we can

(39:58):
video chat as we're doing right now, so using common
technology with mystical ability in order to do so. As
I said, sixty seven home cases, and in those sixty
seven home cases and the investigations I have done so far,
I have imprisoned one hundred and eighty four demons in

(40:19):
that ring.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
And they are completely clean after you do that, they
don't have any further problems. They haven't gotten in touch
with you with any other things that have showed up.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Four cases that have happened to repeat, and it losely
because those people do things to attract stuff back to
their homes.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
Oh right.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
Yeah, most people I talk to want it gone. They
do not want this. They don't want to deal with this.
Once it's done, they do not do anything, and they
do their best to try to prevent it from happening again. Yeah.
Every once in a while I meet the people who
are like they use it as a form of clout,

(41:00):
like they want to be haunted. They want people's attention
because they're haunted. And they meet me and to go, shit,
this person got rid of it. I need to get
something back that was just like it. And they do
it again. They call me back again. And I do
it over and then after several times in me telling
them like, look, if you're going to keep doing this
over again, my help needs to be for people who
actually want these things gone. If you were consistently trying

(41:22):
to want it there, I can't continue to help you.
So there's only been that only happened twice, four times
I had to repeat. But like I said, my ratio
from other people, you know, once it's gone, it's gone,
it's done. Then they literally tell me within a weeks
we check in with them like house things going, oh
it's better, like it never happened, all right.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
What were some of the wildest cases or investigations that
you've been a part of.

Speaker 3 (41:51):
The most profound still to this day. Most profound was
a woman who I helped in Canada. Her name is
Down and she had a son named Ronic and her
son was being oppressed by the spirit of a witch
who had three demons in her stead, and they were
oppressing this kid so bad that he couldn't walk. He

(42:14):
literally would drag himself on the floor because he said
his legs were hurting so bad from being hurt by
the monsters, as he put it, And she was desperate
she reached out to a shaman around that area. They
came in, nothing changed. A parent investigation team that was there,
who I became really good friends with, tried to come.

(42:34):
Didn't want to then, dow change her mind. She wanted
because the husband was upset about the whole idea of it.
So I got in touch with that paranormal team unknown
paranormal shout out for them, uh because became good friends
with them. I helped him out with the case in
their own home and we became very close after that,
and I asked him, Hey, can you go back and

(42:55):
just ask her if she's willing to, you know, just
have me outside the house a video call and look
at the house right at least that much. And he
was like, okay, So he calls it. She said, yeah,
it's fine, you guys about So we do a video call.
She's outside her house. I feel something instantly and I
pull it, send it to the ring. I describe what
it looks like and she gasps, be says that's what

(43:16):
he describes him as. That's where her son describes him as.
So she's like, all right, let's let's go in. So
she walks me through the house. I pull I pull,
I pull, I even go into Ronick's mind force, I
pull from his mind force out. Because with oppression cases,
I have to get the fail safe, And I call
it the fail safe because every dark entity that's oppressing

(43:37):
somebody leaves a piece of themself in their mind force
and I get one hundred percent figure out why. I
feel like it's like almost like a tracer back to
the person in case to get pushed away, or a
marker telling other dark entities, hey, this one's are some of.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
These maybe trying to possess the person and oppressing them
over time to wear them down to where they can
take over the consciousness.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
Well, that's my oppression exists in the first place, is
to break the person down for possession. It's the only
reason they even do it. But after I cleared everything
out of her home, she literally said, the next day
he was walking, it was fine. Within a week, she said,
it felt like it never happened. Wow, I want you

(44:26):
to guess how long it took me to clear stuff
out of her home.

Speaker 1 (44:31):
Oh, it's a few hours.

Speaker 3 (44:33):
Thirty minutes.

Speaker 1 (44:34):
Thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (44:36):
That is my record time from clearing out somebody's house
and clearing their mind for us and telling them have
a good day. Yeah, thirty minutes. That's how long it
takes me to do something that takes a priest, a
light worker, a psychic medium, a shot, anybody else weeks sorry,
days to weeks to years to do. I do in

(44:58):
thirty minutes. And also I want you to guess how
much you think I charge for this?

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Oh? Man, I don't know. A couple of hundred nothing
right on.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
Charge nothing for my services, never have, never will. I
feel it mora really wrong to do so. So I
do not do that right. And that's amongst everything that
I do. People found the most astounding that you do
this not only faster, better, more efficient, and you do
it for free.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
Yeah that's the real deal, man, that's where it's at.
Have you worked with people who have had the spirit
so extreme where it has led to possession?

Speaker 3 (45:43):
I haven't had that kind of look, I believe me.
That's my last great test is to see if I
can pull a demon out of someone who is fully possessed. Now,
I've known a few people, but I've never had, like,
been in a room with actual possessed person. That's comly

(46:04):
find out is that possession cases are more rare than
people think. Oppression all the time, possession rare. I would
say maybe ten percent of all oppression cases lead to
possession because majority of the time people reach out to
someone who can help. They reach out to this person,
I reach out to that person or a priest, or

(46:25):
they pray, or they do something to prevent it from
getting stronger. Right.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
For most of these cases, are the people doing something
particular to attract these entities.

Speaker 3 (46:39):
Sometimes it doesn't happen all the time. Sometimes something easily
just be walking down the street and that the demon
goes ooh, I like this one and follows them home.
It's happened more times than you think. It's, of course,
the majority of the times because someone was at a
place that was haunted, or they go investigating, or they
mess with a Wuiji board, or they do something or

(47:00):
get a haunted object they buy from someplace. I've seen
that happen a lot too. But sometimes it's just as
random as they're just existing and this thing just sees them. Right.

Speaker 1 (47:11):
Yeah, I want to get your insights into the nature
of the intelligences beyond our perception, demons, other spirits. Depending
on who you ask, some will say it's all malevolent.
It's all demonic. Whatever you communicate as a trickster trying
to deceive you. Others may say it's an ecosystem of intelligence.

(47:32):
Is everything from light to dark. Talk a little bit
about your understanding of what lies beyond.

Speaker 3 (47:40):
That's a loaded question my conversations I've had with demons,
because once I have them in the ring, I interrogate
them to understand why they were oppressing a certain person.
What it looks like in the ring? Continuing that statement
I said earlier, those tendrils, that the ability to go

(48:02):
in someone's mind force that allows me to look inside
the ring. What it looks like in there. If you
can imagine a forest after a nuclear blast, All the
trees are burnt in black, the sky's overcast, the ground
is covered in dirt and ash. The entities in there
are all different shapes and designs of shadow figures. Some

(48:23):
have horns, some don't. They're all yelling and screaming, swearing
at me particularly. But that was that, and then I
learned to mold and change that place to my will
and control because I figured I have control over it.
And what I did. Out of those one hundred and
eighty two confirmed demons I have in that ring. I

(48:46):
have also a laundry list of other entities I've put
in there as well, from witches, from skin walkers, from
different entities that you can think of. And I've lost
count of how many negative human entities that I put
in there. I've lost count of how many of those
asholes that I put in there. But of those one
hundred and eighty two confirmed demons, twenty nine are high ranked.

(49:07):
And I say high ranked, I'm talking the top elite guys,
the ones that you know of, the ones you hear
from stories, the ones names you can hear in movies.
Those guys twenty nine or high rank. And what I
did to create intimidation for everything I sent in there
is I built a line of trees going in a

(49:30):
perfect like walkway. And if you imagine when you go in,
you're seeing that point of view like twenty like yeah,
twenties twenty nine trees lined up face to face to
each other, all to your right and the left, and
each of those trees have a high ranking demon chained
to those trees all the way down. And also say

(49:51):
you're a demon who got sent to that rank, and
you look down at your feet when you walk you're
in there, and you see a big marble slab right
in front of you. Inscribed on that slab is abandon
all hope. Ye who enter here, you know where that
saying is from. And for those who don't, that is

(50:11):
supposedly the inscription above the gates of him right, and
that these are intimidation factors that I put to them,
because they're going, oh shit, I'm in here, there's demons
being chained, there's all the creatures around me that are
you know, in pieces around me, and stuff like that,
holy shit, where the hell am I? This can't be hell,
you know? And then I show up and I interrogate them,
asked questions so they're more easier to give up the
information that I'm looking for. So that's what it looks

(50:36):
like in the ring. It sounds like the best I
can to give a description so you can go look
for it for yourself. Is I don't know if you're
a Slipknot fan at all, but the opening track to
the Iowa album, I think the song is called five
one five you times that by one hundred, and that's
what kind of sounds like in there. Only for people later.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
Right now for the other types of entities that exist
beyond our perception. Would you say there are also entities
that take advantage of humans that aren't demonic, that are
maybe tricksters. Are Is there an ecosystem of beings that

(51:18):
are non human?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
Yes. The creature the demon has existed long before Christianity
ever wanted to call them demons. They were the demons
a long time ago in all Latin histories. Every culture
across the entire planet has their versions of what a
demon would be. The Japanese with the Urytide, Nordics with
the draggers. It just it depends on where you are
in the port of the world. But there's always been

(51:42):
inhuman entities that never exist on the human plane, therefore
existing on a very lower dimensional plane of negativity, of
a negative energy. They're born of evil, They're born in
negative energy, so that's all they know. And of course
you have the creatures that might have been Pulpah's throughout history.
Someone might have created them through the fact of believing
in to them. There's that theory that I always play

(52:04):
around with that some most of these negative entities out
there are just tolpus, are nightmares in real form. Enough
people believe in something that makes it real, and the
humans manifestation abilities. We have more power that we think
we do enough to create them. But I've encountered all
different kinds of creatures, from breaks, from wraiths, from different demons,

(52:24):
from course of spirits, of witches, from creatures like monsters
and creatures. I think I took a dog man one time,
which made no sense. I was like, I didn't think
that was even existent, But all right, Uh, it's weird
the negative world of dark entities that I've taken. I've
encountered so much stuff that I never thought was real
until I see them in the Ring to find. But yeah,

(52:48):
most of my encounters with human entities and demons, I've
counted more of those than anybody else the weirdest. And
I know you've had some interesting people on your podcast.
You probably set some out land your things. But I've
taken down dragons in the negative world, in this negative space,

(53:09):
and I put them in the ring, and I'm like,
how is this a demon portraying itself as something else?
This doesn't even exists in this way. No, it's a
fucking dragon, all right, HY think that was real in
a negative space. But then again, if it's a tulpa,
then it's a strong possibility. Who knows, but well, from

(53:29):
what I've learned, demons why they go after people in
the first place, and this probably also lies in the
majority of negative entities out there. They are attracted to
negative human emotion. Our emotions are so powerful and strong,
we as humans feel them when they say I kept

(53:53):
at tension with a knife when we walk into a room. Yeah,
because you're feeling the human energy of everyone around you
when everyone's static and happy, and oh yeah, you're in
that same mood too, when everyone is angry or upset
or depressed. You can feel it. So a creature that
exists from negative space feeds and is It's like a

(54:14):
drug to them. Are negative emotions. That is why they
go after people. And then when they start oppressing, that's
all they do. They try to squeeze every drop of
negative emotion out of you before they can possess you,
and they're gonna get everything that they want. Hence why
they push all negative emotions. Push your family away, push
your friends away, make you sad, make you depressed, make

(54:34):
you angry, just amplifying the negative emotion, and it goes
with dark entities too. Some negative humans I've encounter that
I pulled or oppressing someone because they want to feel
alive again. Therefore that strong as emotions that they know
are the negative ones, hence why they're scaring the shit
out of people to therefore get that negative emotion because

(54:56):
they want to feel alive again. And sometimes they're just bullies.
There's several times in my investigations of locations that we
encounter like negative spirits, human negative spirits bullying other regular
positive human spirits, and a location to keep them there
because they want to feel tough, they want it to fee big,

(55:16):
they want have a sense of power. But once I
removed those negative entities from a location, all of a sudden,
the human entities that were so quiet beforehand start talking.
Our spirit box goes off, my wife starts getting astronger communication,
and then therefore she helps spirits crossover. Because our goal
as parallel investigators is not to collect evidence. We're not

(55:37):
there to prove that the dead or real we know
they are. We're there strictly to make that place ninety
percent if not more, less haunted than when we found
it by removing all the dark entities from the location
and helping as much spirits who want to crossover do so,
therefore making it, like I said, ninety percent less haunted
than when we found it, which is the full on

(55:59):
enemy of any peril investigation team out there, especially the
cloud chasers who are out at this evidence going. You
just ruined what we do. I know you're ruining what
people do. You are exploiting the dead for personal gain,
and we're not about that.

Speaker 1 (56:15):
I love it, man, that's awesome. We got a few
minutes left. I have to ask you about the ring.
Say anyone else would get their hands on it if
you were to lose it, would it be extremely dangerous
if they had any knowledge of the spiritual realms or
anything like that.

Speaker 3 (56:34):
If I used magic, I would say that's a possibility.
But I don't. That's the thing about me. I do
not need spells. I do not need prayers, I do
not need incense. I do not need any form of
any kind of magic whatsoever. I just need to be
in a room with whatever entity, or in a good
distance of whatever entity is out there, and that's it.

(56:55):
It's done. It's overweight. Regardless of how strong or powerful
or ancient this entity is, it does not matter. It
always ends the same. And I's not to say it
with a concker egotisto attitude. No, I'm just saying it
as a matter of fact. Nothing has been able to
stop me. Nothing. And this is why I use the
term Shaman. It's the best description I can give of

(57:18):
myself and the most important thing that I guess I
want to leave you with because it's what I always
try to find information with by expelling this is. I
have six names, six titles, six names that I have
earned over these almost five years now of using my ability.
The first is the shadow Walker. That's my handle. That's
what I've used for a long time now. That name

(57:39):
given to me by another psychic medium who kind of
has something similar when I do. But she only works
with positive entities by pulling positive energy in and then
crossing to the other side. She never does anything dark. Granted,
it takes her immense amount of energy to do that
and she's tired as hell afterwards. But when she went
to her shawman and asked her what disability is, Seaman

(58:01):
told her, oh, you're a psychopomp or you're a shadow walker.
So that's why she called me a shadow walker and
that's stuck. The second was an earth shaker, and that
when I started looking for evidence on this ability anything,
I searched everywhere, every religion, every culture, all across the
entire world to finding anyone like this. And in my

(58:24):
search I found a Native American deity called Earthmaker, and
I remember I was talking about to my mentoring. He's like, Hi,
does that make you earth shaker? Like what are you
talking about? Because he said when I would put my
hand to the earth to do like a big giant
ground pole of everything around me, he said he felt
the earth with vibrates, therefore calling me earth shaker, which

(58:44):
is a pun that kind of stuck. The third was
is Odin's drinker. You didn't ask what my choice of
faith is, but I don't feel bad about telling anybody
I'm not a Christian, and which is kind of like, well,
will you hunt demons? Well you can hunt demons if
you're not Christians. That's easy. They exist regardless of you

(59:04):
believe in them or not. I started looking into the
Nordic faith and one of my first oppression cases I
ever did.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (59:14):
Then the day before my wife megan, she was like,
let's make an offering to odin we're going into battle,
so let's see it wouldn't be hurt. So I was like,
all right, So I just took some stones and a
wolf pendon buried in the ground, and I said, oh, Father,
protect me in battle in the backyard. And I heard
clearly as I'm speaking to you, dranger right look around,

(59:35):
opened my eyes like what the hell Like there's no
one out there back there with me, and I'm like,
what the hell is it? And I look at The
word dranger is essentially a word that Nordics used way
back when to compliment or almost like a title. Essentially
translates to like badass or ultimate warrior. If you're somebody's
dur anger, you're their best fighter. So for the all

(59:57):
Father to call me thur anger, it's a high compliment,
and that kind of stuck for a long time. The
fourth is, like I said, the best description that I
can give myself, it's a shaman, but specifically a war shaman.
Megan research on her own. She found out there were
shamans in the aztect and Haitian. Even the Viking Board

(01:00:22):
of using staffs an object to imprison dark entities. Oh shit,
so this is not something new she said yes, but
they would have to use spells. They could only do
it one entity per object at a time. You have,
you know, if the ring could ever get full, it's
way packed. But I don't think it ever can. It's
it seems endless in there. But they were always called

(01:00:44):
war shamans because they were meant for war, battle and
stuff like that. Ah, So therefore war shaman kind of
became one of my fourth name. The fifth name is
what they call me, what the entities, what demons called me.
They don't call me eyes, they don't call me shadow walker.
They call me order keeper. That's what they call me,

(01:01:06):
order keeper. But the sixth name is the most important
name because that's steve name that has the strongest clues
to exactly who I am. So I had surgery about
two years ago over my belly button at hernia surgery.
And my mentor, who's had many surgeries over his time

(01:01:29):
because he had stomach cancer. He's fine, he's in remission then,
but he said every time he went under he's anstecha.
He said he would meditate, and when he meditated under anesthesia,
you can go anywhere. So I was like, holy crap,
let me try that now never get opportunity do this again.
So but literally the night before my surgery, we get

(01:01:49):
visited by my grandfather, but not my grandfather who passed
away in this lifetime. My grandfather who passed away when
I was with the Cheyenne tribe in the early seventeenth
He told Meghan, tell me to find him when I
go under. It's like, all right, so have the surgery
enough he ever had surgery before?

Speaker 1 (01:02:13):
You have?

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
You had surgery before I have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
Yeah, I had my gallbladder removed over a decade ago,
So you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
That feeling of when you go on I stg recually
fall asleep and wake up at the same second and
hours that passed, never experienced before. I was holy crap.
So but Marr waking up and looking at Meghan in
the in the I guess the room and going, I
know my name, I know I am, And She's like,
it's like nurses a rin teto. Six hours that I

(01:02:42):
was under. All I remember is sitting on a natural
outcropping of rock in front of a cave, and there
was a fire pit in between me and I guess
my grandfather, and the fire was blue, a very light blue,
and I remember looking at him, the Native American man
the hole get up and stuff like that, and he
points to me and says, you are ash will Kinda Tunka,

(01:03:05):
the reaper of souls. You are ash Wakanda Tunka. Oh
I am remember waking up and telling her, like, I
know my name, I know lies kind She's like a
ses yeah. And so later on after I had some
clarity and stuff I got thought about, like ash Wa
kind of Tunka, what is that? I couldn't find that
name anywhere. That name doesn't exist. It was like I

(01:03:27):
even asked Native American people I've met around here. They
had never heard of it. They say it sounds Native American,
just don't know what where it's from, or William what
it means. Yeah, strangely enough, Native American spirits when we
investigate around here in eastern North Carolina, they called me
Ashual kind of Tanka over the spear box. We hear
that as come over the spearbox. And then my friends

(01:03:52):
in northern West Canada around Vancouver, the unknown paranormal he
was investigating one time, right Native American place, and he
asked them, Hey, I got a friend in the States.
He has a certain name on one know if you
guys know it, And he said, do you guys know
the name Ashual kind of Tanka And he heard instantly
over the spear box, Oh, yes, he is king. That's

(01:04:16):
what he heard over the spearbox. So a Native American
name or legend that's supposed to be associated with the
Cheyenne that Native American spirits know on the East coast,
United States, and Native American spirits know on the northern
West coast of the United States essentially know the name
Ashual kind of Tune. But yet majority of Native American

(01:04:37):
people I talked to around here have no idea. So
that tells me there's a stronger legend to this name
that I don't even know, that might have been lost
through time, or some Native American elder somewhere knows that
name or knows the story and they keep it so
close to the chest that nobody knows. But that is
the strongest clue to exactly who I am on that

(01:04:59):
kind of level.

Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
One more question about the ring. You mentioned that you
don't think it could ever get full, but is it
possible that if it does, that they could escape somehow?

Speaker 3 (01:05:12):
No, because my ability, like I said, it doesn't work
in a sense of magic, which would energy move from
one place to the other, And I wouldn't call myself
a witch. We released it. That's more megan thing. She
practice more white witchcraft than anything.

Speaker 1 (01:05:28):
Hm.

Speaker 3 (01:05:30):
I find out that when I put my hand to
the earth while I'm in the ring of the earth
that's inside the ring, and I say a commandment of
any kind, almost like creating a law, therefore it sticks
like no one can enter the ring that is not
of my blood, or no one can remove our entities
from this ring that is not of my blood, or

(01:05:52):
someday the essence because some of the things I put
in there, I do not tell anyone other than the
inner circle. Circle is the group of people that are
associated with me and my wife that are privy to
certain information that cannot be out in the air waves,
not yet anyway in time, but that inner circle information

(01:06:12):
is privileged. But there's some things that I put in
there in the ring that I never want to escape ever,
for what damage it would do to not only me
but everyone else. Now that's pissed off, and know that
humans can imprison them. So's it's white. But also the
ring is always with me, always and if you worked

(01:06:35):
on psychic mediumship skill whatsoever, you would never know it's
there because it doesn't work like a haunted object. And
that's the part of it that really goes what like what?
And that's why I think no one can remove stuff
from it. A haunted object as we know them, when
you attach a demon into it or an entity to
it's that object itself. If any room or house where

(01:06:57):
it's in starts affecting, the people around them are getting
affected and start having nightmares whatever. One hundred and eighty
two demons along with a long list of other stuff.
One demon in that ring should be enough to affect
everyone in this house, but no one's affected. Mm hm.
You would never know it's there. Like I said, it
doesn't affect people, so it doesn't work like a haunted object.
And what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Then?

Speaker 3 (01:07:18):
My best guess is that it acts like a an
access point to another world, this other world being this
prison world where all these things are that can't leave,
where they have no more power in there like that's
why they I know. I don't know if you thought
about it, but you asked if they are trying to
hurt me while there, They've tried bump brushing me. But again,

(01:07:38):
they have no power in there. They are powerless. They
are just less powerless than they were in our world,
but even more so in that, in that ring than
anywhere else. So that's why I can change them trees,
why I can interrogate them on a level that would
be illegal in this world. It's it's because they have
no more power in them.

Speaker 1 (01:07:59):
Do you think they're parasites or are they part of
our experience here a necessary part or was it an infiltration?

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
They have a parasitic attitude about stuff they need us. Essentially,
they hate us. They hate us with a passion. Let
me tell you, Oh my god, they hate humanity. That's
why obsessive upsets me when I hear people say demons
that I have a demon guardian, now I have a friend.
Oh you're fucking not. It's abusing you, it's manipulating you.
It's just waiting for its opportunity to do something to you.

(01:08:32):
So now they are not friends of humanity in the
least spit But it's almost like infiltration. They've existed here
long before we have. But something my wife figured out
what her meditating remote viewing and going not only across
the entire world, but going up higher dimensional planes, she

(01:08:53):
talked to some interesting characters. I can tell you that much,
and that'd be a story for her. But what she's
learned is that you've already heard this from countless people,
but higher dimensional planes, right, and we'll never know what
the true number of it's twelve dimensions up or thirteen whatever,
how many people want to you guess that, But she says,
there's twelve the twelfth dimension being where the source is,

(01:09:13):
and of course all dimensions to go down, but she
says it also goes opposite negative dimensions down. All human spirits, ghosts, whatever,
they're on the fourth dimensional plane of higher negative entities,
negative humans, demons, they're in the low dimensional plane negative
fourth right, and we are third dimensional beings, but we're
in the middle. And this is why they come to us,

(01:09:36):
because they're going down. And so I said, the human
emotion is the strongest ability out there. Our souls create
and generate energy that attracts them for positive and negative reasons.
But ghost human spirits are trapped those who want to
stay behind. What we found out is that to hear
because unfinished business, as we all know, or they're afraid

(01:09:57):
to leave. They're being punished a lot of marks. You're
afraid of judgment, and we have to basically convince them otherwise, like, hey,
it's gonna be fine. You're gonna go. Maybe you're come
back again a new life, or maybe you go on
to your final resting place, but it's going to be fine, right, Yeah,
So we have helped a lot of spirits crossover. Some
choose to stay because they like it here versus starting

(01:10:20):
over again. So we were run into a lot of
those cases. But when it comes to dark Ange, these demons,
now I've hunted them more than anything else, especially demons themselves, sorry,
set up in prison so many. It's a hierarchy almost
like a gang these days, because what I've learned by
looking at them is that they have designs in their

(01:10:42):
skin and almost like granding or carving in their flesh.
And the more higher the rink, the more designs, like
a gang. And that's why some of the top ring
guys I've taken down are covered from head to toe
in carvings and the branding on their entire skin. Sorry,
I know, Oh this guy's been around a long time,

(01:11:03):
but also he's he's top level. Some guys just have
a sleeve or just a chess piece or maybe that's
your legs. It depends. But they higher the rank, I guess,
the more people they possess, the more people they oppress,
the more chaos they create. Whatever the essence is is
that there's a hierarchy of that in hell, but also

(01:11:26):
of how you get there and how you earn your
place amongst them. So they do have a sense of
grade system. As for regular dark entities, not so much.
It's like they're just existing to exist.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
Well, this is so fascinating, man, We're almost out of time.
We're definitely gonna have to do this again because there
is so much that we didn't get to that I'd
love to before we close out, let the audience know
if they are having any issues, what's the best way
to get in touch.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
So we got the Instagram Hidden and Shadows podcast on us.
I always say it's the best place to get hold
of us because we check out the most out of everywhere,
or hitting the Shadows dot com, which actually have our
own website where it's links to all our social media
where you can find us all ways. You can listen.
By the way you listen to the podcasts anywhere you

(01:12:16):
listen to podcasts on Spotify, Apple YouTube wherever. We talk
about ninety percent paranormal and spiritual stuff. Could do do
you occasional cryptid or conspiracy theory or true crime stuff,
but majority of it is parablem or even aliens as well.
By the way, I have had encounters with them too,
So if you ever bring it back again. But yeah,

(01:12:41):
if you're dealing with anything minor as hey, I need
my mind for us cleared out, I can easily do that.
Or I got a demon in my home, I need
it gone easily can do that. And some problem just
message us either through email, to the website or messages
on Instagram. But set up a time, a call, like
a FaceTime like we're doing right being you are doing
right now, and like I said, thirty minutes in and outs,

(01:13:03):
I pull whatever's there, clear your mind for us out
and you're good. You're done. So you said, that's amazing,
and like I said, I do not charge anything for
our services whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
That's awesome, Isaac, Thank you so much. Like I said,
we'll definitely be doing this again. Until next time. Everyone,
have an excellent evening. We will talk again tomorrow we'll
see y'all then.

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