October 9, 2025 • 61 mins
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Paul G. Vecchiet is an author whose speculative fiction bridges U.S. government cover-ups, extraterrestrial phenomena, spirituality, and the future of humanity. As a U.S. government civilian and former U.S. Air Force Civil Engineering Officer, Vecchiet draws from real-life experiences in his novel, The Disclosure Paradox. Inspired by transformative meditation experiences in 2009, Vecchiet weaves elements of his personal journey, including the discovery of a hidden underground space at a large secure military facility, into his storytelling.
Born in Italy, Vecchiet immigrated to the United States as a child. After earning a Bachelor of Architecture from the University of Illinois, Chicago, Vecchiet served as a Civil Engineering Officer in the U.S. Air Force, with assignments across the globe. Today, he lives in Capon Bridge, WV. For more information, please visit https://thedisclosureparadox.com/.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Who's friend all the night dreamer stuck any at night?
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Speaker 2 (00:36):
The unknown is calling. Welcome to night Dreams, Forbidden Realm.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Coming to you from the Great Northwest in the forest
of gig Harbor, Washington. I'm Gary Anderson. This is night Dreams,
and how is everybody doing it? It's already the ninth
of October, you know. I keep thinking about here at
the end of the month. Am I going to get
any Tricker Treaters? Every year for the last twenty seven years,
(01:05):
I can count on my hand of Tricker treats.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How many hands you got there, mister one?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I lost the other. No anyway, But it's weird when
you live out in the woods. Nobody wants to walk
down that you know, gravel road with all the sear
trees dark, you know, because they never know there could
be a bigfoot standing around there.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Oh yeah, ray perrel crawler or a doll man. Who
knows what's going on? But I live in town. I
only give away one neighbor comes by, and after that
I'm stuck with eating all the cand You go.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Out there goes your way, cane. You know again, what's
going on about DNA? I heard some rumors going around
that a scientists made some weird claims. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, yeah, apparently this one doctors did a lot of
research and you know that one. There's a certain company
I won't mention where people send in their DNA to
find out their ancestry. Well he used that along with
some other things, which is kind of a scary thing.
But yeah, apparently he's come up with a few cases
off five eighty one of them that you can't link
(02:09):
any of the DNA markers with the either parent. So
his theory is, you know, could that be alien DNA
tampering years back or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, also in the DNA they found DNA, it was
non human mixed in it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Right, and along with other markers they can't match to
either parents, So that's hiss they now, he hasn't had
anything pure reviewed yet.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now, also with hysteria.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
They can single out PreTect who's who may have alien DNA,
maybe a hybrid. That's kind of a scary thought too,
because you know, some people are kind of racist out there.
So and then where they get the DNA from. But
here's the thing, these are all just theories. Nothing can
be really proven yet either.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah. But when you still have DNA JAC, when you
have DNA that has non human DNA mixed into it,
well that is the scary part because it tells us,
you know, it's not going to be the neighbor's dog
or cat or the monkey at the zoo. This is
something interesting that has combined with human DNA with an
(03:16):
alien DNA that should never have happened.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, and they kind of want to do some research
for the research and see the people that have these
peculiar DNA if they're teletrophy is way up, or their
esp or any other abilities that's above the average person.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, let's face it. You know, we have been visited,
we still being visited. It goes back before the Pyramids,
it goes probably back to even Cain, before Cain and Abel.
We're being visited, and I wouldn't doubt you know that
one movie God, I can't think of the name of it,
where the guy finds a box of sunglasses in the alley.
He puts it on, and all of a sudden he
(03:55):
starts seeing these alien creatures. How do we know? Yeah,
how do we know that? You know? Your wife could
be an alien? Her mind could be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
You gotta find that certain raymand to put on. You
can't see the skeleton looking at you. That would be scary.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'd lock myself in my room and go under the bed.
Let's find some information about our guests here tonight. What
do you think Let's do it, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Paul Jeevaquett is an author whose speculative fiction bridges US
government cover ups, extraterrestrial phenomena, spirituality, and the future of humanity.
As a US government civilian and former US Air Force
Civil Engineering officer, the Cat draws from real life experiences
(04:45):
in his novel The Disclosure Paradox, Inspired by transformative meditation
experiences in two thousand and nine, the Cat weaves elements
of his personal journey, including the discovery of a hidden
underground space at a large secure military facility, into his storytelling.
(05:05):
Born in Italy, the Cat immigrated to the United States
as a child. After earning a Bachelor of Architecture degree
from the University of Illinois, Chicago, the Cats served as
a civil engineering officer in the US Air Force with
assignments across the globe. Today, he lives in capon Bridge,
West Virginia. For more information, please visit his website www.
(05:28):
Dot The Disclosure Paradox dot com.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, Paul, welcome to the show here tonight, and how
are you doing.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Great? That was a wonderful introduction.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, we try no matter how long it takes. Now, Paul,
when you were in the military, did you ever talk
to other people about well ets, aliens and craft and
any of that stuff. Did anybody have their views about it?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
You know, It's funny. When I was in the military,
it wasn't. It was very much in the back of
my mind, you know, I just we just kept doing
our work. There wasn't much, you know, talk about it
because at that time it was still seen as something
(06:18):
fantastic and and not normalized, and so, you know, the
subject matter really never came up between me and any
of the employees. We you know, we had enough to
mess around with, like you know, training for war and
(06:39):
things like that very interesting. But the you know, the
one thing that opened my eyes was what happened to
me when I was at Wright Patterson.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
What happened to you when you were there? Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
I was a construction manager at aaron Oar Assistance Division
at Right Passion Air Force Base and one of the
facilities that I had to manage construction on was Foreign
Technology Division. For people that don't know, Foreign Technology Division
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was the arm of the Air Force where they would
do research on weapons systems other than US weapon systems
and look at their strengths, their weaknesses, opportunities that we
may have and then compile that information and hand it
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over across the base to our research and development people,
where they would take that information and they would come
up with ideas and concepts to either improve our defenses
or take advantage of the weaknesses that are other foreign
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countries would have weapons systems. So that was Foreign Technology Division,
and my project was on the second floor of this
very large building. It was a converted warehouse, so it
was about two and fifty by two and fifty square
and it was secure. It was surrounded by motion detectors
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and even if you had top secret clearance, you had
to be escorted around. Once you get into the facility,
it's like looking at James Bond movie because everything is white.
There are no numbers on the doors, there were no
names on the doors, there was no directory, and you
only went where you're supposed to go. The offices were
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configured in a way where there were locks on each office,
and whoever was in one office didn't know what was
going on in other office. That's called compartmentation. So the
second floor was gutted for a computer system, and I
was escorted up there, and part of my job was
to make sure that the existing conditions reflected what was
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on the drawings that we gave the contractor. So I
looked at the drawings and they were called as belts,
and for those who don't know, as bilts are drawings
that are showing the condition of the facility prior to construction.
So I unrolled the drawings and I looked and I
saw one sheet and the said basement, And I thought
(09:30):
this was a warehouse. You don't design warehouses with basements.
You just make the bare warehouse bigger. But I inspected
it and sure enough, if it matched the outline of
the facility, So I thought that was very interesting, and
(09:50):
I done through some more and I noticed that there
is a detailed four plan in the basement, so the
seventy by ninety foot it's a crowd chamber. And I thought,
I am seeing information I'm not supposed to see, because
that is highly sensitive information, and judging by the size
(10:13):
of that facility, that wasn't just for peature dishes. So
I made sure that my escort didn't know that I
saw what I saw, rolled everything up the way I
originally saw it, and kept that secret for five years
after I left the service, and only then after I
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left the service that I tell people about it. And
when I read the book by Corso, which is called
The Day After Roswell, he specifically states that they shipped
the cadavers from Roswell to write Patterson Air Force Base. Now,
the interesting thing is that if you go on Google
Earth and you look for that facility, it is gone.
(10:56):
If you look in the Internet for the name of
the facility or a number of the building, it's like
it never existed. They removed everything.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, you know, I find that quite obvious, and it
happens on a lot of things that the government steps
in and they expunge, you know, different things we found.
For example, in Antarctica, Paul Beck god three four years
ago it looked like a castle in Antarctica. It was
thawing out, and you know, we were looked at it.
(11:29):
You know, my producer went on his computer. We both
looked at it, and then I couldn't find it again.
It didn't exist. And then there was another one of
a huge opening which seven forty seven could fly into
this huge cave in Antarctica, the same thing. Mary Joyce
gave us that link and then it vanished like within
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a couple hours, it just wasn't there.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, yeah, in my book, you know it. The book
is could be an autobiography because all of the characters
are based on real people that I have met that
have influenced me, that our psychic that had given me
information about myself about what I'm supposed to be doing.
(12:19):
But it's also about experiences and places, and so I
make the character of the book into an amateur UFO
researcher where he goes around the circuit and any he lectures,
and what his key lecture is about is about inter terrestrials,
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where we have beings that are not human that are
cohabitating with us on the planet, and I cite Antarctica,
including two specific coordinate that we're on. I don't know
if they're still on Google Earth, but you can look
(13:04):
them up in One of them appears to be like
a retractable dome. The other one is a I guess,
a cavern in the ice with the opening being in
the form of a triangle that you could put a
seven forty seven through. So you know, there's and and
(13:24):
then I side about dualce and I cite the experience
at Renderson Forest. In fact, the Peniston reviewed my work
prior to publication, making sure that what I was writing
there was factually based on his experiences. So the theory
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is that we're not alone on this planet.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And you know, Paul, like I said at the beginning
of the show, a scientist has come forward and said that,
you know, checking DNA, he's finding DNA that's alien, that
is not from the male and female like the mother father,
but it's a DNA totally different that shouldn't be there.
(14:16):
You know, they're being able to read more and more
on DNA and that just maybe tells you, hey, your
neighbor could be maybe non human.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Well, so one of the psychic people looked at me
and she said that I had Lerian DNA and you're
familiar with the Lyrians. Uh. They're a an intelligent, benevolent, you know,
very compassionate race, non violent, So that kind of sits
(14:52):
with my character. But I thought that was interesting that
she said that, what.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do you think too, Do you think we have well
beings on this planet that you know, want to see
Earth survive and mankind survive. But I also know how
mankind has been since the beginning of time and just
because of a species or a race of another life
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out there, they could still have that. You know. A
lot of people say, oh, no, they would never hurt anybody,
But I disagree with that because I've seen images for
the years I had my friend that was with the CIA.
He sent me pictures of human mutilations along with cattle
mutilations from around the world. Things are going on, people
(15:37):
are vanishing, and what's your take on this.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Well, it's a large universe. There are many races out there.
Most of the universe wants us to be with a
part of the universal community. But the name of the book,
the Disclosure paradox is that if we have disclosure, there
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will be unintended consequences. And that's because they know. The
neuful community recognizes that we are spiritually corrupt. Our DNA,
which is what I believe is what the Bible says
is original sin, not what they talk about with Adam
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and Eve. Our DNA makes us a violent barbariavin irrational
obsessional possessions, and being racist a point of genocidal. They're
very concerned about that because you combine that with our intelligence,
and we are very intelligent compared to the rest of
the years. They may be more developed, but they're not.
(16:48):
That doesn't show that they're intelligent. They've just been around
much longer. Their spirituality is high. So when your spirituality
is high and you have the same level technology, you
have a greater chance of survival. For us, we are
at a very low level of spirituality but a high
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level technology, and that makes us susceptible to self eradication. Conversely,
if you have a race that is high in spirituality
and low in technology, there's a chance for them to
be assimilated by a more advanced race.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah so yeah, but Paul, think about this too. I
don't know your age I'm like in my seventies and
I grew up, you know, I say this so many
times watching Leave It to Beaver, which is still my
favorite show, believe it or not, and Father Knows Best
and all that where it showed morals. We don't have
that no more because no matter what you go on
(17:46):
to you know, cable TV or network TV, all you
see is blood, people getting shot, killed, murdered this way, vampires,
you know, walking dead, and that is twisting young people minds,
not for the good. So when they get older, all
that stuff is going to be embedded in their brain.
(18:07):
And that's what I'm saying. I don't think we're going
to make it as a civilization one at this rate.
And if I was an alien race, it came down
here even if I wasn't as intelligent. And I don't
think we're that intelligent, believe me. I just think that
they're going to look at us no more than we
look at something in a little dish in a lab.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Well, see what happened was what made them alarmed, was
when we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Ninasaki, killing
our own millions. And what they realized that our scientists
did not understand that that immense amount of energy in
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that short amount of time not only affected what we saw,
but it also affected other dimensions. That's why it was
like a fire alarm throughout the universe. Because after that,
after World War Two, that's when we had such a
spike in activity all over the globe on UFOs and sightings.
(19:17):
And if you notice, a lot of their sightings are
around nuclear facilities or places that we store nuclear weapons.
And that's because they they recognize that we are not
ethically prepared and we are not spiritually prepared to be
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able to handle the responsibility of having that kind of technology.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, you know what, Paul, it scares me just as
much as nuclear weapons. Okay, is AI artificial intelligence because
as the rate it's going they said that in the
next year or two, and it's already starting to happen,
and AI is actually making decisions, which they thought, Hey,
it's not input for them to make decisions, you know,
(20:08):
it's not in their programming. But now AI is actually
rewriting itself because they and making decisions even chat at
GPT or whatever it is. Back here. A few months
ago when they came out with a new one, the
old version that was still up and running was fighting
with the new one because it realizes won't exist, that
(20:30):
a new one's going to replace it if AI keeps advancing.
You know remember that movie War Games back in the sixties.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Oh sure, yeah, Well, well.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
What would say that it makes a decision that humans
shouldn't be existing because all they do is cause horrible
pain and destruction.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Correct, just like the first Star Wars movie or a
Star Trek movie.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, so that we got a lot of
things as humans we have to worry about now, getting
into you know, disclosure. What's a lot of people like
me when I say this, but you know what I've
heard so far from Congress, it's all hearsay this person.
(21:16):
I know, this person that knows this. I have a
friend who saw that. But yet, you know, they're not
I don't think they're ever going to come out really
and and tell us the real truth what is going on.
We might get a watered down version of it, but
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Know what's true.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
The reason is, you know, the reason that they're they're
they're stalling, and they're you know, they're delaying, and they
are you know, spraying this disinformation. There's a reason for
that someone. I think throughout major governments they were warn
(21:55):
that if we have disclosure then it would be ten
consequences because the universal community fears that if we have disclosure,
there will be contact, official contact. Once we have official contact,
that leads to a technological exchange, and once we have
that technological exchange, the bad energies on this planet greed,
(22:20):
you know, the military and does so complex the thirst
for power that will take over. They will take that technology,
weaponize it and use it against those that actually gave
it to us. And we'll do the same thing that
we did to the Native Americans, to the average needs,
to people of the Amazon for you know, just either
(22:41):
conquering for spreading Christianity even or whatever it is. How
about genocide and yeah, of course genocide is a huge
factor for them to ensure that we are we are
under a technological and social quarantine. Okay, when we went
to the Moon, our guys were warned about being there,
(23:06):
and that's been you know, obviously suppressed very well, but
there were signs from from Armstrong and from Aldron that
something happened there where it freaked them out. And you know,
why haven't we been there? We've had such advances in technology,
we should have been we should be having colonies in
(23:28):
there by now. But no, because we've been warned that
we're supposed to stay honest planet until we fundamentally change
our spirituality.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well I agree with that because you know, again they
talk about you know, Musk talks about going to Mars
and and and setting up a base there, you know,
and all that. But again I think it's very strange.
And by the way, Armstrong and that, you know, when
they went to the Moon, they saw craft and eight
went on there and they started talking about look at
(24:03):
this craft, and they were told, hey, don't say anything,
go to the medical channel because they knew, you know,
they were being monitored by different countries, different people have
that capability to listen in. And you know, they talked
about craft that was huge and you know, way beyond
our technology. They saw it on the other side of
the crater, and that that makes you wonder what is
(24:26):
going on. But again, you know, maybe the governments feel
that we're not capable to digest this. But again, how
long can you keep lying? How long can you lie
about Roswell? You know, that's one of the things, you know,
one of the first things with Congress they had they
brought the CIA, and they brought people from the Pentagon
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and the military, and they said, Roswell never happened. We
never had a crash UFO, we never recovered a crash ufo,
we never had alien bodies. But yet there's two, many,
many people that whole town. You know, it was all around.
I mean, and if you want disclosure, go back to
(25:09):
nineteen fifty two or fifty three to fly over Washington,
d C. I mean, what more do people really need?
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, that's true, but it you know, Massa. You know,
the public is one thing, but actually getting validation from
your government is another thing, and they're not going to
do that. In fact, we are at a point where
they are enjoying the situation that we are in where
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we have the Internet and we have all of these
means to produce, to record, to document, to fake and
when stuff comes out there is no acknowledgment. They just
let it go, whether it's true or whether it's false.
(26:03):
The more information is out there, the better because the
average person will be confused and more and people are
normally you know, on the side of saying it really
doesn't exist, so they won't say if it's a hoax.
They won't say obviously, they won't say it's true, but
they they just let it go and it's in their favor. Well,
(26:26):
I have as much information out there as possible.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Have you been on TikTok at all lately?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't. I don't go on that because of the
link to the to the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, okay, if you haven't gotten TikTok, go listen to
a lot of these podcasts out there that they're they're
just dumping garbage out there, misinformation right and left. We
don't need we don't need the government to step in
because all you have to do is go listen to
some podcasts about you of both, and they're doing clickbait.
They're lining up a storm about stuff right and left,
(27:01):
and you know what, it makes it more confusing, makes
it harder for shows that trying to give out what
we feel.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
The truth is exactly you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, now we need to take a break. Yeah, okay, Paul,
we need to take a break. This is about three
minutes long. When we come back, let's talk about underground
basis and whichever way you want to go after that.
How's that? Yes, Okay, we'll be back with Paul right
after this break. Stay tuned, and don't forget tomorrow's show JC.
(27:32):
Who do we have on YouTube tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Well, tomorrow we have mister Dick Algeier coming back on
and he's going to talk about how he remote view
three I Atlas.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, is it an alien craft? And then who else
do we have for a little news thing?
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Doctor Gregory Rogers is going to call in with some
updates on what's going on currently with some UFO stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, and you'll find us live tomorrow at seven pm
Pacific on YouTube, ten pm Eastern on YouTube, and we'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, I know it's kindly. I hope I didn't wake,
but what of God to say?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It?
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Can't wait? I knew you'd understand.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Every time I.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Tried to tell you, the words just came out wrong.
So I have to say here, I love you. I
did a song.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's kind strange.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Every time I'm near you, I just wrote out a
thing we used to say. Who you don't understand? Dear,
time I try to tell you, the words just came
out wrong. So I have seen it. It's already.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Buckle up. It is time once again for listener mail,
and this one comes to us from Paul and Cindy
and it reads, Dear Gary and the Night Dreams talk
radio team. My name is Paul and my wife Cindy
and I are writing to you from the East Coast.
(29:41):
We just wanted to take a moment to let you
know how much we truly enjoy your showy.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
We used to be loyal fans of another program up
here in British Columbia, but not anymore because we found you,
and all I have to say you now own all
twenty four time zones our book. What makes your show
so special is the variety and depth of topics. One
night it's UFOs, the next it's abductions, and then you
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dive into fascinating discussions on time travel that we do,
earth changes, and just plain strangeness that we do a lot.
Shows like yours are rare these days, and we find
it incredibly interesting. With an S not a C, I
have to admit my wife gets a little frustrated when
I stay up late to listen since we're on the
(30:33):
East Coast, but truth be told, we both end up
listening anyway. That's how good the show is. We think
so too. Thank you for doing what you do and
for being such a strong voice and alternative talk radio
A big shout out as well to all the listeners
out there, the night Dreamers. We hope to officially be
(30:53):
part of the family very soon. Well bye, thank You're
officially part of it right now. Keep up the amazing
work since nearly, Paul and Cindy. If you have some
feedback you'd like to send our way, perhaps tell us
some have an encounter of your own, email it to
us at night Dreams Talk Radio at gmail dot com,
and who knows, one day in the very near future,
(31:15):
your letter might be featured right here on the radio
Night Dreams Talk Radio, the show they warned you about,
and for damn good reason that.
Speaker 3 (31:39):
And we're back with Paul you know again too. I
just wonder how many underground military bases or et basis
there could be out there.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah, there's probably quite a few that I have heard about.
I know that there's one major anominally off the coast
of San Clemente, is it or no? Kelleen Island? Obviously,
Dulce is very famous and popular, and I have information
(32:14):
from a woman who her mother was CIA and uh
before she passed away. She gave her documents on Dulce
and on extraterriustial autopsies, specifically the Grays, which by the way,
are not actually a race, but they're an advanced android
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slave races. In other wards, they take on the character
of their masters. That's why there's such confusion about abductions
by Grays, because some Grays are bad, some grades are good,
and and people are confused are they good or are
they bad? They take on the character of their masters,
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so it depends on who the masters are. Anyway, Yet
there are there's a thing called deep underground military basis
to UMBs, and there was a document out there that
indicates a network of those basis underground. Whether it's from
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advanced excrescials that you know, we happen to I guess
join forces with in one way or another, or whether
they were done by our own forces. I don't know about,
but they certainly do exist.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, and that is really scary. And you think I
don't know. I don't again, I don't know your age.
But in the seventies, you know, I've been doing talk
radio since nineteen seventy, but in the I would say
mid seventies, there was reports all around the country people
hearing weird noises coming from underground and almost like jackhammering
(34:04):
type of noises and weird stuff going on. And I'm
talking across the country. So it makes me wonder, you know,
if the of these bases they are all connected to
each other.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Yeah. In my book and The Disclosure Paradox, I have
a chapter where characters are at Groom Lake and they
go underground and they link up and they go into
a underground transit system and they find themselves at Edwards
(34:39):
Air Force Base. So yeah, it's it's quite quite plausible.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And ye know, again you talk about up topsies and
all that stuff. I mean again, are these grays and
stuff like that, are they biological or.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
So? There's skin acts just like leaves on tree. That's
where they absorb energy and that's where they expel waste.
They don't have internal organs. They have a mind, brain,
and obviously they have you know, actual functions for movement
and stuff, but they don't have organs like a heart
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or lung or anything like that. All of that That
major organ is their skin itself.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, that's interesting too. And you know when you talk
about people being abducted I mean, I'm sure you heard
of these horror stories plus the good stuff people have had.
But you know, through the years, I've heard more negative
from people being abducted than I have heard good stuff.
You know again, I mean when they sit there and
(35:53):
abduct somebody and experiment on them or whatever, do a
mind melt or whatever they do, they're taking people out
of random or are they?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Now I've been asking the question where people have been
getting a Dutch because there I set up a group
of long before I started to write. That prompted me
to write a blog, and the blog was called The
Red Pill, and I set up a group called Skirts
(36:28):
and Healing where I recognized that people would want to
talk about their experiences, but I would not want to
open up, you know, publicly, So I set up this
private group called Spirits and Healing, and a lot of
these people actually liked it because they were meeting other
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people with similar experiences, and they were comparing things, and
and of course I was able to document a lot
of stuff. And one thing that I recognized was that
a lot of people that were abducted either had something
related with the military, either like their parents were in
(37:12):
the military, or they lived near a military bases. That
seemed to be like a data point for me as
far as recognizing the abduction phenomenon. And I feel that
(37:34):
a lot of the abductions, you know, there's there are
two characters in my book that were abducted females because
the the reptilions took their their fetuses and they they
put their fetuses in the laboratory at Dulce for experimentation.
(37:54):
And also Dulce was used for making super soldiers. So
I have that in there based on information that I
got from real people. So you're right, I think abductions
mostly are negatives, although I do know a woman who
was abducted with her brother and what they did, and
(38:20):
this was when she was a young girl. They put
an implant in her eye and it allowed her to
visualize energy waves and manipulate him, just like sonar in water.
She was able to manipulate energy waves and she was
(38:41):
actually working for to say, for a while.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
That's scary when you think about it. You know, Paul,
I have a friend who claims he sees I call
him lizard people, okay, because they got their eyes and
the slit in their eyes. But you know, he claims
that h that he has run across some of these
people that actually either worked for the government high up
(39:06):
or you know, different organizations, and that yeah, they've been
He's been with like one of them and all of
a sudden, he's having a conversation and the eyes like
like a lizard kind of have a split and goes
back to human. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard like shapshifting. I've heard
of that kind of thing. I haven't witnessed it myself,
but I have heard it. I do have information from
a woman who is part psychic, I guess, part experiencer,
and she has validated that there is a underground reptilian
(39:51):
I guess city under under Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Yeah, And she she had visions of these these caverns,
and she wouldn't want to talk about it, but it
was enough for me to to, I guess, get into
it and I and I did some research and sure enough,
there is some information about other people that have mentioned
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that they found an entrance to to the that civilization
under Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Did they describe what it looked like at all?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Paul, No, No, she didn't describe what it looked like.
She just she recalls that just a feeling of dread
and that these are not benevolent beings. They probably have
been there longer than we have been on earth, which
(40:51):
I think is part of the problem is that you know,
we came later and so they were here first. But
you know, when you talk about I guess organizations in
government that that know about this stuff or is hiding
this stuff. I feel that it's not the government. I
(41:13):
feel that it is actually the military industrial complex. They
have their own security, they have their own secrets. They
I feel that they were part of, you know, the
meeting that was supposed to happen between the Streastls and Eisenhower.
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Eisenhower left because the extressals had a condition where they
asked for abducting humans but not harming them. He didn't
like that, so he left. But who was left in
the room were members of Boeing of Northrope, Grumming, the
Archbishop of Los Angeles. And they all got scared and
(42:00):
they made the agreement with these ex thresholds, and they
got the technology, and they got you know, whatever services
that they demand, and they allowed the ex stressholds to
do the abductions to take our livestock and all that
without impunity.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Well, you know too. I don't know if you ever
heard of Mary Joyce. She runs a website sky Ships
over Cashiers, uh, and you know, she's been on the
show a lot of times through the years, and she
claims that these creatures whatever you want to call them,
you know, agreement they made that they could abduct, you know, humans,
(42:38):
but they like humans. They like humans without or with
barbecue sauce. That's what she claims.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
That's frightening, that's right. I don't it's possible, but yeah,
I think maybe they prefer the livestock rather than humans.
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I don't know, but again, you know, we don't know.
Is it a lot of people go missing? If you
do the research, I can't believe we have enough serial
killers to kill the amount of people are disappearing every
year in this country. Worldwide, also, people are disappearing and
they're never finding no trace of them. Now again, you know,
(43:19):
according to the FBI data records, they do find a
large percentage, but there's still a huge percentage of people.
They just don't know what happened to them. They vanished
off the Earth, So it tells me something could be
going on.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
And again, go ahead, are you talking about the four
to one one phenomenon in the Western States? Yeah that too, Yeah,
yeah yeah, and some of those related to to Bigfoot,
where I feel Bigfoot is actually a form of extrastual
(43:56):
that is actually like a sentinel for protecting the wilderness,
nothing more than that. But they are they have the
ability to pop in and out. And I don't think
they're just just because of their appearance that they're primitive.
I think they're they're advanced.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Well, you know, I had an encounter myself along with
a friend. I've talked about it so many times on
the show up in the Canadian Rockies years ago. We
were an avid photographer and we were out doing pictures
of silver mines up in Canada, up Canadian Rockies, and
(44:40):
we went to an old Japanese and tournament camp that
they used to hold prisoners during World War Two up
there about miles from nowhere. So the prisoners where would
they go? And we were by a crieck bed and
my friend had a white angle. I had my telephoto
on their or whatever it was, and he goes, look
(45:02):
at that bear across the creek and I looked and
swung my camera around, and I almost pissed myself at
that point because, honestly, Paul, it was not a bear.
It was a bigfoot and at at the same time,
I was getting ready to take a picture, but it
(45:22):
saw me. It screamed, and then it came up and
it came across. It chased me and my friend, who
again was a medical doctor, and we got kind of
separated going through the woods because we had to go
to about two miles through the woods to get back
to the old access road where the car was. And
(45:43):
when I got back to the car, I got in,
I didn't even think about my friend, but I could
smell the punge. It smell of muss urine and if
he took the world's hottest pepper and put all of
it together and mixed it. I couldn't breathe. It was
burning my throat, my nose. And I started the car,
(46:06):
and you know, my friend grabbed the car door and
I'm dragging him, so I stopped. I realized, Oh my god,
he gets in and this creature throws a rock, a
log or whatever, and it took out the front fender
and part of the door. I know what bigfoot looks like,
and I'll tell you what, I would never run across
(46:26):
one again. I don't know if they're part alien or alien,
or if they're flesh and blood or they're in their
dimensional I don't know what it is other than what
I saw.
Speaker 7 (46:36):
Wow, were you? Were you and your Amachi? Is that
the the the Japanese internment camp? Because I have a chapter.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
In my book ye ye ye yep, that's the one.
Speaker 7 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, I document that and something spiritual happens to
one of the characters and books over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Not many people go there. And it was like the
first week at June and it was still snow and
it was really cold yet up there, and I don't
it's not an area where people are going to, you know,
on a regular basis.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
What's interesting about that camp itself is that there's a
monument there, and the monument is to the four and
they were the most decorated unit in World War two
and they were Japanese Americans that were sent to Europe
to fight the Nazis, the most decorated unit in World
(47:34):
War two and they're right there. Only there is is
a monument to them, So that two thousand and six
is when George Bush actually made it a national monument.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, So going back to you know what made you
decide to right this book, Paul.
Speaker 7 (47:54):
Well, it's it's psychic women telling me that I I
had a role to play, that one would tell me
that I'm a counselor and informer. All kinds of information
(48:17):
I was getting from people that I had no I
guess no business is getting, but but it was coming
to me. And of course my meditative experience is the
first meditative experience was just you know, calming myself down,
doing the breathing exercise, and all of a sudden, my
(48:42):
body was vibrating. I was sitting down and I see
colors and I see bands of colors, and I feel vibration,
and I feel velocity, and I feel I went through
a wormhole in meditation, and that was amazing. I documented
(49:02):
that in the book. So what I realized is I
needed to write this book to explain to people our
relationship with the rest of the universe, the link between
the extraterrestrials and ourselves spiritually, and what we need to
(49:24):
do if we truly want disclosure, if we really want
to be with the rest of the universal community, and
they want us to be like them, They want to
be with them. What needs to happen. So this one woman,
and there were many psychic women that friended me. And
then the other thing is that the common commonality between
(49:49):
us was meditation. So you know, for all the listeners
out there, I recommend if you don't meditate, take it up,
because what it does is it opens up a gift
that we all have. We all have a gift, and
once you activate your neo gland to meditate, things will
start happening to you. You will understand the role that
(50:13):
your spirit took before you became human in this life.
You will understand that, and you will become much more
comfortable with your life, understanding your relationship with the rest
of the people. One thing that I point out is
(50:33):
that other people have a greater impact on your life
than you have on yourself. We're all connected in that manner.
Something is happening far away right now from you that
will affect you sometime later in the future that someone
is doing just because we're all interconnected. So one of
(50:57):
the psychic women turned out to be my mentor and
my spiritual mentor. And what would happened is that she
would go into a trance when she would be communicating
with me, and during this trance she would be getting
information and related to me. What was happened is that
when she was in a trance, an extraterrestrial race that
(51:19):
calls themselves the Watchers, and they have an outpost on
the Moon, they would communicate to me through her. They
would tell me, you know, if I'm doing what I'm
supposed to be doing. They would give me encouragement. And
(51:40):
when I decided to write the book, I wrote an
outline in one weekend, thirty one pages all in one weekend.
That kind of thing doesn't happen to a first time writer.
So it was it's my role to play. And I'm
hoping that people understand as they read the book that
(52:01):
there are lessons to be learned.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
There is now where can they find your book? In
the name of the book, Paul.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
The book is called The Disclosure Paradox. It's the first
book in the series. I have a website, The Disclosure
Paradox dot com all one word. It's available on Amazon, Barnes,
and Noble. If you have a favorite bookstore, go to
the bookstore. It's in their system. It's in the ingrain system.
They could go in and request it and it'll arrive
(52:32):
in two or three days after they request it. But
the other thing is I wrote a second book, and
that second book links to the first book because it
talks about DNA and that book is about a conspiracy
to destroy or to take the shroud of Turin. Because
(52:58):
what people learn reading that book in specific chapter is
that Jesus's blood is special, that DNA is not human,
his blood type is not human. It's close to AB positive,
but it's not. And that when they say that his
blood will wash aways since the earth, the hypothesis is
(53:20):
that we can take his DNA and actually repair our
own DNA to be like him, and then we would
be able to be spiritually evolved.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Very interesting. Hey, Paul, I want to thank you so
much for coming on on Thursday night. And again, one
last question. Do you have a website or anything you
want to.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Share the disclosure paradox dot com. Yeah, and it's a
great website. People could read reviews in there, they could
read about the books, they could read excerpts, they could
read about the characters, and they could also read about
books that are coming out in the future.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Great. Hey, Paul, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 7 (54:04):
Thanks for having me Gary, it was great conversation.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Okay, my friend, you have a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
It's coming up with you sure, Thanks you too, well, JC.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm really excited about tomorrow's show.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Yes, we got Dick Algar coming back on. He's gonna
tell us what he's found out with the three I
Atlis and a bunch of other things. He's remote viewed
some fascinating stuff.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
And that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Followed up with mister doctor Gregory Rogers coming back on
with some current event updates with what's going on in
the field of Fewer fos and as you know, there's
a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, well, you know, Dick is gonna you know, he
remote viewed the three I Atlas and we're gonna find
out is it a alien craft or is it just
a comment. So that's gonna be really a great show.
And we got some great, you know shows coming on
all through the month. End of the month, we got
Thomas Jane and we have Bron fit Haerld on for
(55:01):
Halloween and Ron Fitzgerald is gonna talk about we'll give
us Halloween vampire stories and all that. That's gonna be
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then who do we have?
Speaker 5 (55:43):
Oh, we've got a lot of guests, matter of fact,
let's see. Well, next week we got Michael Bautista coming on.
He's part of the Skywatcher project that's going where he
can sig off these UFOs in call him in.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
So that's going to be an interesting show.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
Yeah, and that's we followed with mister Jonathan Waygart on
the twenty thirty. Was part of a military unit that
came across a crash a bo and I think it
was either Peru or Brazil back in nineteen ninety seven.
It was Peru, I think, And listen he that's a
fascinating story. So that's going to be good. But Friday
(56:20):
October the twenty fourth. Right down, mister Timothy Phillips is
coming on, former director of aa RO that.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
You don't want to miss that one.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yeah, So you know, again we try to bring on
the best guests. We don't do like some shows do,
like every month you'll see three or four same guests
month after month, year after year. And we don't give
you the hype, do we hear.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
No, no hype. It's just it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
Good guests, good all around produced, quality show and with
you know, if it wasn't, we wouldn't have the listeners
we do.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, and you know, I also changed the format a
little bit of this show. If you haven't noticed, we're
not throwing in a lot of commercials at any at
the beginning of the show. We stick them at the
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But again, you know, you can catch us every Thursday
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Speaker 5 (57:49):
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Good night world. We'll see you tomorrow.
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of October, you know. I keep thinking about here at
the end of the month. Am I going to get
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I can count on my hand of Tricker treats.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
How many hands you got there, mister one?
Speaker 3 (01:13):
I lost the other. No anyway, But it's weird when
you live out in the woods. Nobody wants to walk
down that you know, gravel road with all the sear
trees dark, you know, because they never know there could
be a bigfoot standing around there.
Speaker 5 (01:28):
Oh yeah, ray perrel crawler or a doll man. Who
knows what's going on? But I live in town. I
only give away one neighbor comes by, and after that
I'm stuck with eating all the cand You go.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Out there goes your way, cane. You know again, what's
going on about DNA? I heard some rumors going around
that a scientists made some weird claims. What's going on?
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Well, yeah, apparently this one doctors did a lot of
research and you know that one. There's a certain company
I won't mention where people send in their DNA to
find out their ancestry. Well he used that along with
some other things, which is kind of a scary thing.
But yeah, apparently he's come up with a few cases
off five eighty one of them that you can't link
(02:09):
any of the DNA markers with the either parent. So
his theory is, you know, could that be alien DNA
tampering years back or whatever.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, also in the DNA they found DNA, it was
non human mixed in it.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
Right, and along with other markers they can't match to
either parents, So that's hiss they now, he hasn't had
anything pure reviewed yet.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Now, also with hysteria.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
They can single out PreTect who's who may have alien DNA,
maybe a hybrid. That's kind of a scary thought too,
because you know, some people are kind of racist out there.
So and then where they get the DNA from. But
here's the thing, these are all just theories. Nothing can
be really proven yet either.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
Yeah. But when you still have DNA JAC, when you
have DNA that has non human DNA mixed into it,
well that is the scary part because it tells us,
you know, it's not going to be the neighbor's dog
or cat or the monkey at the zoo. This is
something interesting that has combined with human DNA with an
(03:16):
alien DNA that should never have happened.
Speaker 5 (03:21):
Yeah, and they kind of want to do some research
for the research and see the people that have these
peculiar DNA if they're teletrophy is way up, or their
esp or any other abilities that's above the average person.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
Well, let's face it. You know, we have been visited,
we still being visited. It goes back before the Pyramids,
it goes probably back to even Cain, before Cain and Abel.
We're being visited, and I wouldn't doubt you know that
one movie God, I can't think of the name of it,
where the guy finds a box of sunglasses in the alley.
He puts it on, and all of a sudden he
(03:55):
starts seeing these alien creatures. How do we know? Yeah,
how do we know that? You know? Your wife could
be an alien? Her mind could be Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:06):
You gotta find that certain raymand to put on. You
can't see the skeleton looking at you. That would be scary.
Speaker 6 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:12):
I'd lock myself in my room and go under the bed.
Let's find some information about our guests here tonight. What
do you think Let's do it, okay.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Paul Jeevaquett is an author whose speculative fiction bridges US
government cover ups, extraterrestrial phenomena, spirituality, and the future of humanity.
As a US government civilian and former US Air Force
Civil Engineering officer, the Cat draws from real life experiences
(04:45):
in his novel The Disclosure Paradox, Inspired by transformative meditation
experiences in two thousand and nine, the Cat weaves elements
of his personal journey, including the discovery of a hidden
underground space at a large secure military facility, into his storytelling.
(05:05):
Born in Italy, the Cat immigrated to the United States
as a child. After earning a Bachelor of Architecture degree
from the University of Illinois, Chicago, the Cats served as
a civil engineering officer in the US Air Force with
assignments across the globe. Today, he lives in capon Bridge,
West Virginia. For more information, please visit his website www.
(05:28):
Dot The Disclosure Paradox dot com.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Well, Paul, welcome to the show here tonight, and how
are you doing.
Speaker 7 (05:36):
Great? That was a wonderful introduction.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Well, we try no matter how long it takes. Now, Paul,
when you were in the military, did you ever talk
to other people about well ets, aliens and craft and
any of that stuff. Did anybody have their views about it?
Speaker 7 (05:57):
You know, It's funny. When I was in the military,
it wasn't. It was very much in the back of
my mind, you know, I just we just kept doing
our work. There wasn't much, you know, talk about it
because at that time it was still seen as something
(06:18):
fantastic and and not normalized, and so, you know, the
subject matter really never came up between me and any
of the employees. We you know, we had enough to
mess around with, like you know, training for war and
(06:39):
things like that very interesting. But the you know, the
one thing that opened my eyes was what happened to
me when I was at Wright Patterson.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
What happened to you when you were there? Yeah.
Speaker 7 (06:54):
I was a construction manager at aaron Oar Assistance Division
at Right Passion Air Force Base and one of the
facilities that I had to manage construction on was Foreign
Technology Division. For people that don't know, Foreign Technology Division
(07:14):
was the arm of the Air Force where they would
do research on weapons systems other than US weapon systems
and look at their strengths, their weaknesses, opportunities that we
may have and then compile that information and hand it
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over across the base to our research and development people,
where they would take that information and they would come
up with ideas and concepts to either improve our defenses
or take advantage of the weaknesses that are other foreign
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countries would have weapons systems. So that was Foreign Technology Division,
and my project was on the second floor of this
very large building. It was a converted warehouse, so it
was about two and fifty by two and fifty square
and it was secure. It was surrounded by motion detectors
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and even if you had top secret clearance, you had
to be escorted around. Once you get into the facility,
it's like looking at James Bond movie because everything is white.
There are no numbers on the doors, there were no
names on the doors, there was no directory, and you
only went where you're supposed to go. The offices were
(08:42):
configured in a way where there were locks on each office,
and whoever was in one office didn't know what was
going on in other office. That's called compartmentation. So the
second floor was gutted for a computer system, and I
was escorted up there, and part of my job was
to make sure that the existing conditions reflected what was
(09:08):
on the drawings that we gave the contractor. So I
looked at the drawings and they were called as belts,
and for those who don't know, as bilts are drawings
that are showing the condition of the facility prior to construction.
So I unrolled the drawings and I looked and I
saw one sheet and the said basement, And I thought
(09:30):
this was a warehouse. You don't design warehouses with basements.
You just make the bare warehouse bigger. But I inspected
it and sure enough, if it matched the outline of
the facility, So I thought that was very interesting, and
(09:50):
I done through some more and I noticed that there
is a detailed four plan in the basement, so the
seventy by ninety foot it's a crowd chamber. And I thought,
I am seeing information I'm not supposed to see, because
that is highly sensitive information, and judging by the size
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of that facility, that wasn't just for peature dishes. So
I made sure that my escort didn't know that I
saw what I saw, rolled everything up the way I
originally saw it, and kept that secret for five years
after I left the service, and only then after I
(10:33):
left the service that I tell people about it. And
when I read the book by Corso, which is called
The Day After Roswell, he specifically states that they shipped
the cadavers from Roswell to write Patterson Air Force Base. Now,
the interesting thing is that if you go on Google
Earth and you look for that facility, it is gone.
(10:56):
If you look in the Internet for the name of
the facility or a number of the building, it's like
it never existed. They removed everything.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
Well, you know, I find that quite obvious, and it
happens on a lot of things that the government steps
in and they expunge, you know, different things we found.
For example, in Antarctica, Paul Beck god three four years
ago it looked like a castle in Antarctica. It was
thawing out, and you know, we were looked at it.
(11:29):
You know, my producer went on his computer. We both
looked at it, and then I couldn't find it again.
It didn't exist. And then there was another one of
a huge opening which seven forty seven could fly into
this huge cave in Antarctica, the same thing. Mary Joyce
gave us that link and then it vanished like within
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a couple hours, it just wasn't there.
Speaker 7 (11:55):
Well, yeah, in my book, you know it. The book
is could be an autobiography because all of the characters
are based on real people that I have met that
have influenced me, that our psychic that had given me
information about myself about what I'm supposed to be doing.
(12:19):
But it's also about experiences and places, and so I
make the character of the book into an amateur UFO
researcher where he goes around the circuit and any he lectures,
and what his key lecture is about is about inter terrestrials,
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where we have beings that are not human that are
cohabitating with us on the planet, and I cite Antarctica,
including two specific coordinate that we're on. I don't know
if they're still on Google Earth, but you can look
(13:04):
them up in One of them appears to be like
a retractable dome. The other one is a I guess,
a cavern in the ice with the opening being in
the form of a triangle that you could put a
seven forty seven through. So you know, there's and and
(13:24):
then I side about dualce and I cite the experience
at Renderson Forest. In fact, the Peniston reviewed my work
prior to publication, making sure that what I was writing
there was factually based on his experiences. So the theory
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is that we're not alone on this planet.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
No.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
And you know, Paul, like I said at the beginning
of the show, a scientist has come forward and said that,
you know, checking DNA, he's finding DNA that's alien, that
is not from the male and female like the mother father,
but it's a DNA totally different that shouldn't be there.
(14:16):
You know, they're being able to read more and more
on DNA and that just maybe tells you, hey, your
neighbor could be maybe non human.
Speaker 7 (14:27):
Well, so one of the psychic people looked at me
and she said that I had Lerian DNA and you're
familiar with the Lyrians. Uh. They're a an intelligent, benevolent, you know,
very compassionate race, non violent, So that kind of sits
(14:52):
with my character. But I thought that was interesting that
she said that, what.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Do you think too, Do you think we have well
beings on this planet that you know, want to see
Earth survive and mankind survive. But I also know how
mankind has been since the beginning of time and just
because of a species or a race of another life
(15:16):
out there, they could still have that. You know. A
lot of people say, oh, no, they would never hurt anybody,
But I disagree with that because I've seen images for
the years I had my friend that was with the CIA.
He sent me pictures of human mutilations along with cattle
mutilations from around the world. Things are going on, people
(15:37):
are vanishing, and what's your take on this.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
Well, it's a large universe. There are many races out there.
Most of the universe wants us to be with a
part of the universal community. But the name of the book,
the Disclosure paradox is that if we have disclosure, there
(16:06):
will be unintended consequences. And that's because they know. The
neuful community recognizes that we are spiritually corrupt. Our DNA,
which is what I believe is what the Bible says
is original sin, not what they talk about with Adam
(16:27):
and Eve. Our DNA makes us a violent barbariavin irrational
obsessional possessions, and being racist a point of genocidal. They're
very concerned about that because you combine that with our intelligence,
and we are very intelligent compared to the rest of
the years. They may be more developed, but they're not.
(16:48):
That doesn't show that they're intelligent. They've just been around
much longer. Their spirituality is high. So when your spirituality
is high and you have the same level technology, you
have a greater chance of survival. For us, we are
at a very low level of spirituality but a high
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level technology, and that makes us susceptible to self eradication. Conversely,
if you have a race that is high in spirituality
and low in technology, there's a chance for them to
be assimilated by a more advanced race.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Yeah so yeah, but Paul, think about this too. I
don't know your age I'm like in my seventies and
I grew up, you know, I say this so many
times watching Leave It to Beaver, which is still my
favorite show, believe it or not, and Father Knows Best
and all that where it showed morals. We don't have
that no more because no matter what you go on
(17:46):
to you know, cable TV or network TV, all you
see is blood, people getting shot, killed, murdered this way, vampires,
you know, walking dead, and that is twisting young people minds,
not for the good. So when they get older, all
that stuff is going to be embedded in their brain.
(18:07):
And that's what I'm saying. I don't think we're going
to make it as a civilization one at this rate.
And if I was an alien race, it came down
here even if I wasn't as intelligent. And I don't
think we're that intelligent, believe me. I just think that
they're going to look at us no more than we
look at something in a little dish in a lab.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
Well, see what happened was what made them alarmed, was
when we dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and Ninasaki, killing
our own millions. And what they realized that our scientists
did not understand that that immense amount of energy in
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that short amount of time not only affected what we saw,
but it also affected other dimensions. That's why it was
like a fire alarm throughout the universe. Because after that,
after World War Two, that's when we had such a
spike in activity all over the globe on UFOs and sightings.
(19:17):
And if you notice, a lot of their sightings are
around nuclear facilities or places that we store nuclear weapons.
And that's because they they recognize that we are not
ethically prepared and we are not spiritually prepared to be
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able to handle the responsibility of having that kind of technology.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
Well, you know what, Paul, it scares me just as
much as nuclear weapons. Okay, is AI artificial intelligence because
as the rate it's going they said that in the
next year or two, and it's already starting to happen,
and AI is actually making decisions, which they thought, Hey,
it's not input for them to make decisions, you know,
(20:08):
it's not in their programming. But now AI is actually
rewriting itself because they and making decisions even chat at
GPT or whatever it is. Back here. A few months
ago when they came out with a new one, the
old version that was still up and running was fighting
with the new one because it realizes won't exist, that
(20:30):
a new one's going to replace it if AI keeps advancing.
You know remember that movie War Games back in the sixties.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
Oh sure, yeah, Well, well.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
What would say that it makes a decision that humans
shouldn't be existing because all they do is cause horrible
pain and destruction.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
Correct, just like the first Star Wars movie or a
Star Trek movie.
Speaker 3 (20:56):
Right, yeah, yeah, so that we got a lot of
things as humans we have to worry about now, getting
into you know, disclosure. What's a lot of people like
me when I say this, but you know what I've
heard so far from Congress, it's all hearsay this person.
(21:16):
I know, this person that knows this. I have a
friend who saw that. But yet, you know, they're not
I don't think they're ever going to come out really
and and tell us the real truth what is going on.
We might get a watered down version of it, but
I don't.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Know what's true.
Speaker 7 (21:34):
The reason is, you know, the reason that they're they're
they're stalling, and they're you know, they're delaying, and they
are you know, spraying this disinformation. There's a reason for
that someone. I think throughout major governments they were warn
(21:55):
that if we have disclosure then it would be ten
consequences because the universal community fears that if we have disclosure,
there will be contact, official contact. Once we have official contact,
that leads to a technological exchange, and once we have
that technological exchange, the bad energies on this planet greed,
(22:20):
you know, the military and does so complex the thirst
for power that will take over. They will take that technology,
weaponize it and use it against those that actually gave
it to us. And we'll do the same thing that
we did to the Native Americans, to the average needs,
to people of the Amazon for you know, just either
(22:41):
conquering for spreading Christianity even or whatever it is. How
about genocide and yeah, of course genocide is a huge
factor for them to ensure that we are we are
under a technological and social quarantine. Okay, when we went
to the Moon, our guys were warned about being there,
(23:06):
and that's been you know, obviously suppressed very well, but
there were signs from from Armstrong and from Aldron that
something happened there where it freaked them out. And you know,
why haven't we been there? We've had such advances in technology,
we should have been we should be having colonies in
(23:28):
there by now. But no, because we've been warned that
we're supposed to stay honest planet until we fundamentally change
our spirituality.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Well I agree with that because you know, again they
talk about you know, Musk talks about going to Mars
and and and setting up a base there, you know,
and all that. But again I think it's very strange.
And by the way, Armstrong and that, you know, when
they went to the Moon, they saw craft and eight
went on there and they started talking about look at
(24:03):
this craft, and they were told, hey, don't say anything,
go to the medical channel because they knew, you know,
they were being monitored by different countries, different people have
that capability to listen in. And you know, they talked
about craft that was huge and you know, way beyond
our technology. They saw it on the other side of
the crater, and that that makes you wonder what is
(24:26):
going on. But again, you know, maybe the governments feel
that we're not capable to digest this. But again, how
long can you keep lying? How long can you lie
about Roswell? You know, that's one of the things, you know,
one of the first things with Congress they had they
brought the CIA, and they brought people from the Pentagon
(24:48):
and the military, and they said, Roswell never happened. We
never had a crash UFO, we never recovered a crash ufo,
we never had alien bodies. But yet there's two, many,
many people that whole town. You know, it was all around.
I mean, and if you want disclosure, go back to
(25:09):
nineteen fifty two or fifty three to fly over Washington,
d C. I mean, what more do people really need?
Speaker 7 (25:17):
Yeah, that's true, but it you know, Massa. You know,
the public is one thing, but actually getting validation from
your government is another thing, and they're not going to
do that. In fact, we are at a point where
they are enjoying the situation that we are in where
(25:42):
we have the Internet and we have all of these
means to produce, to record, to document, to fake and
when stuff comes out there is no acknowledgment. They just
let it go, whether it's true or whether it's false.
(26:03):
The more information is out there, the better because the
average person will be confused and more and people are
normally you know, on the side of saying it really
doesn't exist, so they won't say if it's a hoax.
They won't say obviously, they won't say it's true, but
they they just let it go and it's in their favor. Well,
(26:26):
I have as much information out there as possible.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Have you been on TikTok at all lately?
Speaker 7 (26:32):
I don't. I don't go on that because of the
link to the to the Chinese.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
Well, okay, if you haven't gotten TikTok, go listen to
a lot of these podcasts out there that they're they're
just dumping garbage out there, misinformation right and left. We
don't need we don't need the government to step in
because all you have to do is go listen to
some podcasts about you of both, and they're doing clickbait.
They're lining up a storm about stuff right and left,
(27:01):
and you know what, it makes it more confusing, makes
it harder for shows that trying to give out what
we feel.
Speaker 7 (27:08):
The truth is exactly you're right.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yeah, now we need to take a break. Yeah, okay, Paul,
we need to take a break. This is about three
minutes long. When we come back, let's talk about underground
basis and whichever way you want to go after that.
How's that? Yes, Okay, we'll be back with Paul right
after this break. Stay tuned, and don't forget tomorrow's show JC.
(27:32):
Who do we have on YouTube tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (27:35):
Well, tomorrow we have mister Dick Algeier coming back on
and he's going to talk about how he remote view
three I Atlas.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
Yeah, is it an alien craft? And then who else
do we have for a little news thing?
Speaker 7 (27:49):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (27:50):
Doctor Gregory Rogers is going to call in with some
updates on what's going on currently with some UFO stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:56):
Yeah, and you'll find us live tomorrow at seven pm
Pacific on YouTube, ten pm Eastern on YouTube, and we'll
be right back.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Well, I know it's kindly. I hope I didn't wake,
but what of God to say?
Speaker 5 (28:30):
It?
Speaker 6 (28:31):
Can't wait? I knew you'd understand.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Every time I.
Speaker 6 (28:39):
Tried to tell you, the words just came out wrong.
So I have to say here, I love you. I
did a song.
Speaker 7 (28:51):
You know.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
It's kind strange.
Speaker 6 (28:55):
Every time I'm near you, I just wrote out a
thing we used to say. Who you don't understand? Dear,
time I try to tell you, the words just came
out wrong. So I have seen it. It's already.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Buckle up. It is time once again for listener mail,
and this one comes to us from Paul and Cindy
and it reads, Dear Gary and the Night Dreams talk
radio team. My name is Paul and my wife Cindy
and I are writing to you from the East Coast.
(29:41):
We just wanted to take a moment to let you
know how much we truly enjoy your showy.
Speaker 4 (29:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
We used to be loyal fans of another program up
here in British Columbia, but not anymore because we found you,
and all I have to say you now own all
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so special is the variety and depth of topics. One
night it's UFOs, the next it's abductions, and then you
(30:10):
dive into fascinating discussions on time travel that we do,
earth changes, and just plain strangeness that we do a lot.
Shows like yours are rare these days, and we find
it incredibly interesting. With an S not a C, I
have to admit my wife gets a little frustrated when
I stay up late to listen since we're on the
(30:33):
East Coast, but truth be told, we both end up
listening anyway. That's how good the show is. We think
so too. Thank you for doing what you do and
for being such a strong voice and alternative talk radio
A big shout out as well to all the listeners
out there, the night Dreamers. We hope to officially be
(30:53):
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(31:15):
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Speaker 3 (31:39):
And we're back with Paul you know again too. I
just wonder how many underground military bases or et basis
there could be out there.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah, there's probably quite a few that I have heard about.
I know that there's one major anominally off the coast
of San Clemente, is it or no? Kelleen Island? Obviously,
Dulce is very famous and popular, and I have information
(32:14):
from a woman who her mother was CIA and uh
before she passed away. She gave her documents on Dulce
and on extraterriustial autopsies, specifically the Grays, which by the way,
are not actually a race, but they're an advanced android
(32:43):
slave races. In other wards, they take on the character
of their masters. That's why there's such confusion about abductions
by Grays, because some Grays are bad, some grades are good,
and and people are confused are they good or are
they bad? They take on the character of their masters,
(33:04):
so it depends on who the masters are. Anyway, Yet
there are there's a thing called deep underground military basis
to UMBs, and there was a document out there that
indicates a network of those basis underground. Whether it's from
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advanced excrescials that you know, we happen to I guess
join forces with in one way or another, or whether
they were done by our own forces. I don't know about,
but they certainly do exist.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Yeah, and that is really scary. And you think I
don't know. I don't again, I don't know your age.
But in the seventies, you know, I've been doing talk
radio since nineteen seventy, but in the I would say
mid seventies, there was reports all around the country people
hearing weird noises coming from underground and almost like jackhammering
(34:04):
type of noises and weird stuff going on. And I'm
talking across the country. So it makes me wonder, you know,
if the of these bases they are all connected to
each other.
Speaker 7 (34:17):
Yeah. In my book and The Disclosure Paradox, I have
a chapter where characters are at Groom Lake and they
go underground and they link up and they go into
a underground transit system and they find themselves at Edwards
(34:39):
Air Force Base. So yeah, it's it's quite quite plausible.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
And ye know, again you talk about up topsies and
all that stuff. I mean again, are these grays and
stuff like that, are they biological or.
Speaker 7 (34:59):
So? There's skin acts just like leaves on tree. That's
where they absorb energy and that's where they expel waste.
They don't have internal organs. They have a mind, brain,
and obviously they have you know, actual functions for movement
and stuff, but they don't have organs like a heart
(35:22):
or lung or anything like that. All of that That
major organ is their skin itself.
Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yeah, that's interesting too. And you know when you talk
about people being abducted I mean, I'm sure you heard
of these horror stories plus the good stuff people have had.
But you know, through the years, I've heard more negative
from people being abducted than I have heard good stuff.
You know again, I mean when they sit there and
(35:53):
abduct somebody and experiment on them or whatever, do a
mind melt or whatever they do, they're taking people out
of random or are they?
Speaker 7 (36:05):
Now I've been asking the question where people have been
getting a Dutch because there I set up a group
of long before I started to write. That prompted me
to write a blog, and the blog was called The
Red Pill, and I set up a group called Skirts
(36:28):
and Healing where I recognized that people would want to
talk about their experiences, but I would not want to
open up, you know, publicly, So I set up this
private group called Spirits and Healing, and a lot of
these people actually liked it because they were meeting other
(36:51):
people with similar experiences, and they were comparing things, and
and of course I was able to document a lot
of stuff. And one thing that I recognized was that
a lot of people that were abducted either had something
related with the military, either like their parents were in
(37:12):
the military, or they lived near a military bases. That
seemed to be like a data point for me as
far as recognizing the abduction phenomenon. And I feel that
(37:34):
a lot of the abductions, you know, there's there are
two characters in my book that were abducted females because
the the reptilions took their their fetuses and they they
put their fetuses in the laboratory at Dulce for experimentation.
(37:54):
And also Dulce was used for making super soldiers. So
I have that in there based on information that I
got from real people. So you're right, I think abductions
mostly are negatives, although I do know a woman who
was abducted with her brother and what they did, and
(38:20):
this was when she was a young girl. They put
an implant in her eye and it allowed her to
visualize energy waves and manipulate him, just like sonar in water.
She was able to manipulate energy waves and she was
(38:41):
actually working for to say, for a while.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
That's scary when you think about it. You know, Paul,
I have a friend who claims he sees I call
him lizard people, okay, because they got their eyes and
the slit in their eyes. But you know, he claims
that h that he has run across some of these
people that actually either worked for the government high up
(39:06):
or you know, different organizations, and that yeah, they've been
He's been with like one of them and all of
a sudden, he's having a conversation and the eyes like
like a lizard kind of have a split and goes
back to human. Have you heard of that?
Speaker 7 (39:24):
Yeah, I've heard that. I've heard like shapshifting. I've heard
of that kind of thing. I haven't witnessed it myself,
but I have heard it. I do have information from
a woman who is part psychic, I guess, part experiencer,
and she has validated that there is a underground reptilian
(39:51):
I guess city under under Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
That's what I heard.
Speaker 7 (39:57):
Yeah, And she she had visions of these these caverns,
and she wouldn't want to talk about it, but it
was enough for me to to, I guess, get into
it and I and I did some research and sure enough,
there is some information about other people that have mentioned
(40:18):
that they found an entrance to to the that civilization
under Los Angeles.
Speaker 3 (40:27):
Did they describe what it looked like at all?
Speaker 7 (40:29):
Paul, No, No, she didn't describe what it looked like.
She just she recalls that just a feeling of dread
and that these are not benevolent beings. They probably have
been there longer than we have been on earth, which
(40:51):
I think is part of the problem is that you know,
we came later and so they were here first. But
you know, when you talk about I guess organizations in
government that that know about this stuff or is hiding
this stuff. I feel that it's not the government. I
(41:13):
feel that it is actually the military industrial complex. They
have their own security, they have their own secrets. They
I feel that they were part of, you know, the
meeting that was supposed to happen between the Streastls and Eisenhower.
(41:37):
Eisenhower left because the extressals had a condition where they
asked for abducting humans but not harming them. He didn't
like that, so he left. But who was left in
the room were members of Boeing of Northrope, Grumming, the
Archbishop of Los Angeles. And they all got scared and
(42:00):
they made the agreement with these ex thresholds, and they
got the technology, and they got you know, whatever services
that they demand, and they allowed the ex stressholds to
do the abductions to take our livestock and all that
without impunity.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Well, you know too. I don't know if you ever
heard of Mary Joyce. She runs a website sky Ships
over Cashiers, uh, and you know, she's been on the
show a lot of times through the years, and she
claims that these creatures whatever you want to call them,
you know, agreement they made that they could abduct, you know, humans,
(42:38):
but they like humans. They like humans without or with
barbecue sauce. That's what she claims.
Speaker 7 (42:46):
That's frightening, that's right. I don't it's possible, but yeah,
I think maybe they prefer the livestock rather than humans.
I would hope.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
I don't know, but again, you know, we don't know.
Is it a lot of people go missing? If you
do the research, I can't believe we have enough serial
killers to kill the amount of people are disappearing every
year in this country. Worldwide, also, people are disappearing and
they're never finding no trace of them. Now again, you know,
(43:19):
according to the FBI data records, they do find a
large percentage, but there's still a huge percentage of people.
They just don't know what happened to them. They vanished
off the Earth, So it tells me something could be
going on.
Speaker 8 (43:34):
And again, go ahead, are you talking about the four
to one one phenomenon in the Western States? Yeah that too, Yeah,
yeah yeah, and some of those related to to Bigfoot,
where I feel Bigfoot is actually a form of extrastual
(43:56):
that is actually like a sentinel for protecting the wilderness,
nothing more than that. But they are they have the
ability to pop in and out. And I don't think
they're just just because of their appearance that they're primitive.
I think they're they're advanced.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Well, you know, I had an encounter myself along with
a friend. I've talked about it so many times on
the show up in the Canadian Rockies years ago. We
were an avid photographer and we were out doing pictures
of silver mines up in Canada, up Canadian Rockies, and
(44:40):
we went to an old Japanese and tournament camp that
they used to hold prisoners during World War Two up
there about miles from nowhere. So the prisoners where would
they go? And we were by a crieck bed and
my friend had a white angle. I had my telephoto
on their or whatever it was, and he goes, look
(45:02):
at that bear across the creek and I looked and
swung my camera around, and I almost pissed myself at
that point because, honestly, Paul, it was not a bear.
It was a bigfoot and at at the same time,
I was getting ready to take a picture, but it
(45:22):
saw me. It screamed, and then it came up and
it came across. It chased me and my friend, who
again was a medical doctor, and we got kind of
separated going through the woods because we had to go
to about two miles through the woods to get back
to the old access road where the car was. And
(45:43):
when I got back to the car, I got in,
I didn't even think about my friend, but I could
smell the punge. It smell of muss urine and if
he took the world's hottest pepper and put all of
it together and mixed it. I couldn't breathe. It was
burning my throat, my nose. And I started the car,
(46:06):
and you know, my friend grabbed the car door and
I'm dragging him, so I stopped. I realized, Oh my god,
he gets in and this creature throws a rock, a
log or whatever, and it took out the front fender
and part of the door. I know what bigfoot looks like,
and I'll tell you what, I would never run across
(46:26):
one again. I don't know if they're part alien or alien,
or if they're flesh and blood or they're in their
dimensional I don't know what it is other than what
I saw.
Speaker 7 (46:36):
Wow, were you? Were you and your Amachi? Is that
the the the Japanese internment camp? Because I have a chapter.
Speaker 4 (46:46):
In my book ye ye ye yep, that's the one.
Speaker 7 (46:50):
Yeah, yeah, I document that and something spiritual happens to
one of the characters and books over there. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (46:58):
Not many people go there. And it was like the
first week at June and it was still snow and
it was really cold yet up there, and I don't
it's not an area where people are going to, you know,
on a regular basis.
Speaker 7 (47:10):
What's interesting about that camp itself is that there's a
monument there, and the monument is to the four and
they were the most decorated unit in World War two
and they were Japanese Americans that were sent to Europe
to fight the Nazis, the most decorated unit in World
(47:34):
War two and they're right there. Only there is is
a monument to them, So that two thousand and six
is when George Bush actually made it a national monument.
Speaker 3 (47:46):
Yeah, So going back to you know what made you
decide to right this book, Paul.
Speaker 7 (47:54):
Well, it's it's psychic women telling me that I I
had a role to play, that one would tell me
that I'm a counselor and informer. All kinds of information
(48:17):
I was getting from people that I had no I
guess no business is getting, but but it was coming
to me. And of course my meditative experience is the
first meditative experience was just you know, calming myself down,
doing the breathing exercise, and all of a sudden, my
(48:42):
body was vibrating. I was sitting down and I see
colors and I see bands of colors, and I feel vibration,
and I feel velocity, and I feel I went through
a wormhole in meditation, and that was amazing. I documented
(49:02):
that in the book. So what I realized is I
needed to write this book to explain to people our
relationship with the rest of the universe, the link between
the extraterrestrials and ourselves spiritually, and what we need to
(49:24):
do if we truly want disclosure, if we really want
to be with the rest of the universal community, and
they want us to be like them, They want to
be with them. What needs to happen. So this one woman,
and there were many psychic women that friended me. And
then the other thing is that the common commonality between
(49:49):
us was meditation. So you know, for all the listeners
out there, I recommend if you don't meditate, take it up,
because what it does is it opens up a gift
that we all have. We all have a gift, and
once you activate your neo gland to meditate, things will
start happening to you. You will understand the role that
(50:13):
your spirit took before you became human in this life.
You will understand that, and you will become much more
comfortable with your life, understanding your relationship with the rest
of the people. One thing that I point out is
(50:33):
that other people have a greater impact on your life
than you have on yourself. We're all connected in that manner.
Something is happening far away right now from you that
will affect you sometime later in the future that someone
is doing just because we're all interconnected. So one of
(50:57):
the psychic women turned out to be my mentor and
my spiritual mentor. And what would happened is that she
would go into a trance when she would be communicating
with me, and during this trance she would be getting
information and related to me. What was happened is that
when she was in a trance, an extraterrestrial race that
(51:19):
calls themselves the Watchers, and they have an outpost on
the Moon, they would communicate to me through her. They
would tell me, you know, if I'm doing what I'm
supposed to be doing. They would give me encouragement. And
(51:40):
when I decided to write the book, I wrote an
outline in one weekend, thirty one pages all in one weekend.
That kind of thing doesn't happen to a first time writer.
So it was it's my role to play. And I'm
hoping that people understand as they read the book that
(52:01):
there are lessons to be learned.
Speaker 3 (52:04):
There is now where can they find your book? In
the name of the book, Paul.
Speaker 7 (52:09):
The book is called The Disclosure Paradox. It's the first
book in the series. I have a website, The Disclosure
Paradox dot com all one word. It's available on Amazon, Barnes,
and Noble. If you have a favorite bookstore, go to
the bookstore. It's in their system. It's in the ingrain system.
They could go in and request it and it'll arrive
(52:32):
in two or three days after they request it. But
the other thing is I wrote a second book, and
that second book links to the first book because it
talks about DNA and that book is about a conspiracy
to destroy or to take the shroud of Turin. Because
(52:58):
what people learn reading that book in specific chapter is
that Jesus's blood is special, that DNA is not human,
his blood type is not human. It's close to AB positive,
but it's not. And that when they say that his
blood will wash aways since the earth, the hypothesis is
(53:20):
that we can take his DNA and actually repair our
own DNA to be like him, and then we would
be able to be spiritually evolved.
Speaker 3 (53:31):
Very interesting. Hey, Paul, I want to thank you so
much for coming on on Thursday night. And again, one
last question. Do you have a website or anything you
want to.
Speaker 7 (53:40):
Share the disclosure paradox dot com. Yeah, and it's a
great website. People could read reviews in there, they could
read about the books, they could read excerpts, they could
read about the characters, and they could also read about
books that are coming out in the future.
Speaker 3 (54:00):
Great. Hey, Paul, thank you so much for coming on.
Speaker 7 (54:04):
Thanks for having me Gary, it was great conversation.
Speaker 3 (54:07):
Okay, my friend, you have a great weekend.
Speaker 4 (54:08):
It's coming up with you sure, Thanks you too, well, JC.
Speaker 3 (54:13):
I'm really excited about tomorrow's show.
Speaker 5 (54:17):
Yes, we got Dick Algar coming back on. He's gonna
tell us what he's found out with the three I
Atlis and a bunch of other things. He's remote viewed
some fascinating stuff.
Speaker 4 (54:27):
And that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (54:27):
Followed up with mister doctor Gregory Rogers coming back on
with some current event updates with what's going on in
the field of Fewer fos and as you know, there's
a lot going on.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
Yeah, well, you know, Dick is gonna you know, he
remote viewed the three I Atlas and we're gonna find
out is it a alien craft or is it just
a comment. So that's gonna be really a great show.
And we got some great, you know shows coming on
all through the month. End of the month, we got
Thomas Jane and we have Bron fit Haerld on for
(55:01):
Halloween and Ron Fitzgerald is gonna talk about we'll give
us Halloween vampire stories and all that. That's gonna be
really good. Now that is on YouTube, not on the apps,
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And then Thomas Jane the actor, The Punishers, A Fog,
a whole bunch of movies he made, and he's been
on multiple times. I really enjoy having Thomas on. And
then who do we have?
Speaker 5 (55:43):
Oh, we've got a lot of guests, matter of fact,
let's see. Well, next week we got Michael Bautista coming on.
He's part of the Skywatcher project that's going where he
can sig off these UFOs in call him in.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
So that's going to be an interesting show.
Speaker 5 (55:58):
Yeah, and that's we followed with mister Jonathan Waygart on
the twenty thirty. Was part of a military unit that
came across a crash a bo and I think it
was either Peru or Brazil back in nineteen ninety seven.
It was Peru, I think, And listen he that's a
fascinating story. So that's going to be good. But Friday
(56:20):
October the twenty fourth. Right down, mister Timothy Phillips is
coming on, former director of aa RO that.
Speaker 4 (56:27):
You don't want to miss that one.
Speaker 3 (56:29):
Yeah, So you know, again we try to bring on
the best guests. We don't do like some shows do,
like every month you'll see three or four same guests
month after month, year after year. And we don't give
you the hype, do we hear.
Speaker 4 (56:46):
No, no hype. It's just it is what it is.
Speaker 5 (56:48):
Good guests, good all around produced, quality show and with
you know, if it wasn't, we wouldn't have the listeners
we do.
Speaker 3 (56:56):
Yeah, and you know, I also changed the format a
little bit of this show. If you haven't noticed, we're
not throwing in a lot of commercials at any at
the beginning of the show. We stick them at the
end of the show so you can make the decision
if you want to listen to the commercial or not.
But again, you know, you can catch us every Thursday
at nine pm Pacific time at twelve am Eastern time
(57:21):
on your favorite app like iHeart tune in, Spotify, Apple
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Speaker 5 (57:49):
Yeah, it's very important, you know, because when it comes
time for a raise, I don't want you to tell
me to go get a big thick book to sit on.
Speaker 3 (57:55):
No, I'm going to tell you go to the store
and buy a maple bar. That's what I'm going to
tell you. Well, everybody out there. Again, I want to
thank everybody because on YouTube we're at well over three
hundred and fifty some thousands describers, and I bet you
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Speaker 4 (58:47):
Good night world. We'll see you tomorrow.
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