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September 7, 2020 • 82 mins
Jace and Josh discuss the passing of Chadwick Boseman and review Disney's latest release Mulan.

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(00:00):
Can I tell you something? Ofcourse you can, so you are aware
that I am now the wearer ofglasses. I am aware, and my
eyes have quite literally been opened becauseapparently I'm not blind anymore. Yeah,
I didn't even know I was blind. That's the best of us. Um,

(00:23):
this isn't good because now I amobsessed with cleaning these things. Yeah,
because I've always seen the world throughmy eyes with nothing in between.
And now that I'm wearing these glassesand I get like spots on them every
once in a while and i seelike a little bit of blurriness, and

(00:46):
I'm like, piss me off.So i gotta take off of glasses,
gotta start cleaning them. I putthem on, guess what I noticed another
one that was there before. Yeah. And now I'm at a point where
I'm just like after a week ofwearing them, I'm just like, Okay,
this is my life now. Um, I don't care about the spot.
Yeah. And I'm looking at thespot right now, like it's there.

(01:11):
I see it, and I wantto so badly clean it, but
I know it is for not.Yeah, It's just gonna get worse from
there, and I'm just gonna leaveit and I'm gonna trying out to vocus
on it, but I'm gonna focuson it. Yeah, you're gonna find
yourself cleaning it when it's just likecompletely covered and like stuff and like when

(01:34):
did this even happen? And thenyou look and it's like, oh I
can see clearly again. Yeah,I know it's great. Is this?
Is this what the world looks like? It looks so much brighter now,
right, Yeah, that's my life. I am now part of the glasses
club and I am I am enjoyingit so far. Um. I've been
wearing them NonStop for about a weeknow, and this is it me,

(01:57):
this is me now. Yeah,just don't get knocked around too much because
when you do, the glasses comeoff, and that's really frustrating. Listen,
listen. If there's one thing thatyou should know about me, Jason,
is if I get knocked down,don't get back up again. Why
You're never gonna keep meet. Iget knocked down, but I get up

(02:21):
again. He's still going. Listen. Okay, I take a whiskey drink.
Do you still keep going? Takea bunk a drink? I need
to go wock after this. Hetakes another drink. Oh my gosh,
and then a girl starts talking aboutDanny Boy. Are you done yet?

(02:49):
Are you done yet? How doyou spell chumbawamba? Context is here we

(03:15):
discuss insightful views on a routine biweeklybasis, over the incredibly nerdy things we
can stop talking about to take youon this doorcy Rider, your host Josh,
Hello, everyone and myself Jay Soon. Why don't you take a seat
to back relax. We're here todo all the heavy lifting. It is
about to get nerdy. This isepisode ninety six, so we seriously need
to face the music. I knoweveryone has addressed it already, we have

(03:38):
not. By this time, youhave already heard that Chadwick Boseman, legendary
actor known for such legendary roles sucha Third Good Marshall, Jackie Robinson,
James Brown, and of course iChala, otherwise known as Black Panther,
has passed away. Yeah. Andit's it's it's really sad, it's really
really devastating. Yeah. So ChadwickBoseman passed away on August twenty eighth of

(04:02):
twenty twenty from colon cancer. Um. And I'm really still not even finished
processing this yet. Yeah. AndI mean either mine. Um, you
know when I when I heard it, I honestly couldn't believe it. Um.
I I was just it was justa normal night, casually going through
Reddit, and then I get anotification from from I think it was Apple

(04:27):
News or something, and the bannthe notification banners just says Chadwick Boseman passes
away at forty three, And Iwas just like, now I didn't just
read that, did I? Andthen I tapped on the notification. Sure
enough, there's a whole horrible there. And then I switched to a group
thread that we're in and apparently,like a minute or two beforehand before I

(04:51):
got the notification, somebody else hadposted it in the chat, I just
didn't see it. And I wasjust like, this is a this is
a real thing, Like this isthis really happening kind of thing. Um,
yeah, it's just a huge shock. Yeah some foremast So I feel
like that was literally how many peoplefound out. It was completely taken by

(05:15):
surprise. Um. They either foundout, Yeah, they found out either
through notifications on their devices or theyfound out from somebody else. So I'm
I don't I I'm like baffled.I don't really understand it because I feel
like he just got here and he'sdone such phenomenal work. And I've been

(05:40):
a fan of his way before hegot ever casted as black Panther, you
know, when you know clear,because we always talk about you know,
marnerful stuff, things that we aremost excited about. And it kind of
is a reverse engineering for us,because usually when somebody gets casted, you
know, if we don't know anythingabout them, that's usually when we started

(06:00):
hearing about the work. We maydive in and find out, you know,
what else they have done. Andyou know that's you know, that's
our little pocket, our little entryway, our gateway into learning more about different
types of balance sets out there.So Chamer Boseman was a little bit different
because I mean I had been followinghim get Everything that I had seen him

(06:21):
in was just like amazing, absolutelyamazing, And I had known about him
before he was cast in forty twoand I remember seeing that and I thought,
this is great. This movie isphenomenal for well filmed, great acting,
you know, great story, welldone cinema, well done movie.

(06:43):
And I said, you know,I'm looking forward to just seeing what else
this guy has to do. Andyou know, once I found out that
he had been cast, I wasjust like, man, he's you know,
he's James Brown, he's you know, Jackie Robinson. Now he's to
child and everyone was really excited.I did, obviously, you know the
way the Marvel movies work. Hewas casted in Civil War, and I

(07:09):
mean for the little part that itwas in there, I mean, he
commanded presence. I mean everyone wasjust talking about just two people with Spider
Man and Black Panther, who wasjust like, if Spider Man wasn't there,
Black Panther would have been it.And you know, obviously we wanted
to know more. Twenty eighteen,it's coming gone and that movie is at

(07:30):
the top of my list, andI think this is now you know,
you know, I want to say, unfortunately solidified it. I just don't.
It's hard for me to process.I just don't know what is it
that I'm supposed to say. Ilook back on it now and I've been
watching you know, his movies asmuch as I can. And it's really

(07:54):
funny because I watched the James BrownGet On Up movie, I want to
say, maybe a week before hepassed away, a week and I'm saying,
I'm watching this and I'm like,how was he doing this? Like
you just you just you see talentand some people they got good looks.

(08:15):
Some people have the ability to draw. Some people can create an epic,
you know, just with a pieceof paper and a pen. And I'm
just looking at this and the rangethat this man has is unreal. So
I had just watched that a weekbefore he died, and I was just
like, man, I can't waitto see what's next. And then to

(08:37):
hear this news, It's tough.It's just really really tough, and I
don't know how to process it.But I knew that I had to keep
away from social media because how peopleresponded obviously equally devastated. But just people
are just believe asking the wrong questions, you know, I mean, it

(09:00):
just passes away. Man had afamily, he's just married. I don't
want to know when the next moviewas, whether or not it was filmed
or not. Don't know if Icare to really know whether or not that
was filmed or not. Yeah,there's yeah, there's a there was a
man that existed on this planet andnow he's gone, and you know,

(09:26):
my entertainment that he was able tosatisfy is not that important, right,
So you know, I mean Ikind of I've expected it, and I
know that sounds terrible to say,but I mean I looked and I said,
give a time. It's it's gonnabe minutes before people start asking whether

(09:46):
or not it was already filmed.It's in considerate. I mean to me,
it's inconsiderate. I don't. Idon't think that's right. Um.
I think there's a god to givepeople a moment to grieve, got to
get people moment of course. Yeah, I mean we're like the two of
us were like incredibly huge Marvel fansobviously, you know, just listen to

(10:11):
any one of our ninety five pastepisodes. I mentioned Marvel at least once
in every single one. But knowingif you know Black Panther two, like,
oh, what's gonna happen with that? That was nowhere near in my
mind when I heard that this manpassed, like I was just like,

(10:31):
you know, I was more concernedfor his family, his loved ones,
like his friends, even like peoplethat were closest to him, Like that
was in my mind for first andforemost, not like when no crap Now
Black panther two, what's gonna happenwith that? Like? Who cares about
that at this moment in time?Right? Like man was human being.
Man inspired millions and millions of people, and you know he was part of

(10:58):
a literal call true phenomenon, right, and he brought joy to everyone,
who brought inspiration to everyone. It'slike, that's what I care about.
Yeah, Like that's what we lost. Yeahs like a really really good caring

(11:18):
person. Yeah, it came outof nowhere. And you know, I
think that's the thing that shocked peoplethe most. And I take this moment
to say, it's very easy forpeople to make comments. I mean,
we are a show that discusses movies, and I think i'd like to think
and if you know, it's notalways true. You know, sometimes we

(11:41):
talk about people. Sometimes we talkabout some questionable things that people choose to
do. Ultimately, it is theirdecision whether or not, you know,
it means they're right if they havea choice, or people have choices to
carry themselves how they wish to carrythemselves. Of course, you know,

(12:05):
I just can't ram my head aroundthis. Like no one, no one
knew, no one knew. AndI remember his past, it was either
may or June. Jadwick posted avideo and no one was talking about what
he was, you know, bringingawareness to which was you know, not
only social causes, but you know, fundraisers or causes that he cared about.

(12:31):
The responses were, you know,he looks like he's being starved.
He looks like someone needs to makehim a sandwich. Yeah. And you
know, looking back on it now, that man was suffering. And then
when you start diving into it evenmore, you realize this spin was dealing
with this for four years. Thatmeans before people had ever even known him

(12:54):
before, he was in this Inthis I mean, does meteoric rise in
superstardom, you know, claiming legendarystatus. This man was battling cancer.
Yeah, this man was battling cancer. And I don't think people truly realize

(13:16):
what the implications of this are.That means he got this diagnosis prognosis,
and he continued to work, andhe continued delivering the best work of his
entire life. I mean, canceris no joke. I think anybody that

(13:37):
has dealt with it, has dealtwith a family member, will tell you
it is not an easy joy ride. Right, And he continued coming to
work, he delivered his best workphysically, he bulked up and took care
of himself the best way that moneycould ever provide. I mean, he

(14:01):
had access to resources, doctors,all of this stuff. And on top
of that, he's going to visitkids who have terminally eases diseases just like
he does. And I'm thinking aboutthat. I'm really like, it really

(14:22):
starts to to settle in a manwho he who he was, or he
passed. It's it's a lot,It's it's really like there. I don't
want to say that there aren't thatmany good people, because I like to

(14:45):
believe that there are, but hewas definitely like the best of what humanity
could be, right in terms ofhow caring it was, in terms of
how passionate he was, in termsof you know, just being a good
person. Yeah. Um, Andit's it's you know, it's it's a

(15:05):
horrible tragedy. And like I,unlike you, I'd wish I had seen
more of him before being cast inthe Marvel universe. That's I did know.
I knew of him, but likeit's one of those actors like,
oh yeah, I've seen I've seenhis face, right, I don't really
know too much about him, butI've seen his face before, Like I

(15:26):
remember when forty I remember when fortytwo came out and I would see like
the trailers and I saw like TVspots and I saw him. I'm like,
oh, okay, so yeah,I know who he is, but
I don't know who he is ifyou like that, and then of course
you know being the marvel Nerdlas BlackPanther from there, That's when I took
notice. Of course, like manymany other people, I'm sure it works.

(15:50):
Yeah, um, I'm looking athis IMBB right now. He was
also apparently in a episode of Castle. Yes, I love Castle. I
love that show. I can't rememberlike what episode he was in or anything
like that, so it must havebeen just like either a quick thing or
it's just an episode at that wasn'tlike in my memorially like most of them

(16:10):
are. Yea um, but yeah, I mean I kind of wish I
was able to spend you know,more time watching his roles. Um.
This weekend I bought two of hismovies about forty two because I never even
though I knew of it way backwhen from when it came out, I
just never watched it. Um SoI bought it this week, Um so

(16:33):
I'm gonna watch it. And thenI also bought one of his newer films
which I did watch, not whenit first first came out, but maybe
like once it came to streaming,twenty one Bridges, which was a really
good movie. Ye. So yeah, I just wish I was able to
spend more time with, you know, to see his talent on screen and
things like that. Yeah, it'shard. It's hard, I mean,

(16:57):
and it's hard as it is forany or it's hard it is for anybody
that's like a kid who is trulyinspired by him. You know, I
can only imagine what his family isgoing through his right now, his wife
is and his family. I justwhat is that you can do? What?

(17:19):
What can you do? That istrue? What can you do?
And it was it was really heartbreakingto like read because right after that,
um, I you know, gotthe notification and I was messaging you know,
this group thread. Um you know, I did go to Twitter to
see what people were saying. Idid go to Reddit on the Marble subreddit

(17:40):
to see what people were saying,and it was heartbreaking to read how some
parents were like, how do Itell my kid that Black Panther just passed
away. Yeah, Like, howdo I tell my kid, who loves
you know what he stood for andwhat he showed them? How do we
tell him that person just passed away? And it's like, I don't know,

(18:06):
it's it's just a tragic should nothave been taken away from us,
this just quickly. Yeah, andso you know, with this, I'm
faced with my own mortality. Imean that this person, you know,
reached what people would call superstar statusand this was able to take him.

(18:27):
I'm like, anybody, anybody,Yeah, you know, need you anybody,
So you know, in this time, that's it's just difficult for all
of us. You know, quarantineand pandemic and viruses and all of these
things. It's like there's so manythings that you have to be careful and

(18:51):
mindful of. I mean, youhave to be mindful of your mental health.
I have to. You have toabsolutely have to. Um, you
got to be active. I thinkthat's important. You got to eat right,
and you got to monitor certain things. Because the man was with forty
two forty three. People are stilldebating this. They you know, some
people again, conspiracies is really notwhat I want to hear. I don't

(19:15):
care that you know, he playedforty two and he died like that.
That stuff really doesn't mean anything tome at all. What concerns me most
is the person. What concerns memost is what he was able to do
with the time that he had,and how he just continued working and he

(19:41):
worked until he couldn't. That's andI'm thinking about all these you know,
other people where illness just overtook them. I mean, I don't want to
go I don't want to go toa place that I know that's going to

(20:03):
I'm not going to be able toshake it off. And just know that
if you're here, it is agift. And when you're here, you
focus on what you choose to focuson. You have people in your life
that you care about, reach outto them, reach out to them,

(20:26):
even if you have differences. Youdon't know what's going to happen tomorrow.
Tomorrow is not promised, right,so nothing's ever promised, nothing's ever promised.
So and I don't really mean towax philosophical. It's just I'm is
truly precious and there's something that youare dreaming of doing. How's the time

(20:52):
to do it. I mean,work towards it. You don't have to
accomplish in it a day, butyou can't work at it. And it
doesn't matter if it's a minute,doesn't matter if it's an hour, as
long as you're working towards it,right, as long as you're motivated.
I mean, this is this hitme harder than I had expected. Kobe

(21:19):
Bryant was harder than I expected.That was different because I watched sports,
but Kobe was always a part ofarrival teams, and all of a sudden
this happened, and I'm just like, WHOA completely turned my world upside down.
Sure, Chadwick Boseman was different,you know, like very familiar,
and I follow you know him andhis work and you know all the things

(21:44):
that he had been doing. Butnow this happened, and it's like and
it's it's tough. It's tough.Yeah, for sure, it's not gonna
get easier, but we all kindof get through it and we'll all get
through it together. Um. Butthis time, I do want to say,

(22:06):
you know, our prayers definitely goout to the Bozeman family during this
typical time. We are thankful forthe talent and the memories that he has
left behind. So thank you forthat. I agreed, and we're going
to take a break now, andwhen we come back, we're gonna have
movie reviews and much more. So. Stay tuned, Welcome back to the
FDC podcast. We are your hostswith the most Jason, Josh what I

(22:33):
don't like that phrase? What's warmwith the phrase? The hostess with the
mostess? I dislike that phrase evenmore? Well, super grumpy, Maybe
I should just say you're a line? What line? We do a thing
here. We do a thing hereat FC podcast called the cobby it hasted.
It allows us to be consistent,organized following the overall reception plot,

(23:00):
action, acting, music, seeamatography, conclusion and stingers feeling better now?
No, yes, okay. Themovie that we're going to be discussing
first is Mulan's absolutely correct. Thishas been five months waiting? Has it

(23:27):
been that long? It's been fivemonths. We've been waiting for this movie
for five approximately five months. Ididn't think we were actually going to be
getting its longer. Yeah, well, you know that's what happens when you've
just been staring at the four walls, just waiting for this whole thing that's
called coronavirus to blow over. Soplans get changed and rearranged, and some

(23:52):
movies are coming out in theaters.Out of all of them, I would
not have expected New Mutants to comeout in theaters. Didn't see that coming.
But somehow New Mutants is out intheaters. I still haven't seen it.
Very mad about that, but no, I'm not going to cry over
spilt milk. But somehow Ulan I'veaction remake from the Disney which many people

(24:14):
were concerned really wasn't going to begood, is out on Disney Plus.
With some caveats, of course.And I feel like we need to preface
this before we actually started getting intothe coming, which is this movie was
released on Disney Plus, but itwasn't accessible to everyone that has Disney Plus.
They've created something new, and bythey, I mean Disney has created

(24:37):
something called Premier Access. We kindof talked about this in previous episodes,
where in order for you to accessit, you actually have to do a
purchase for this movie specifically was thirtydollars. With the thirty dollars purchase,
you would be able to access itearly. You would be able to launch
not only the movie but as wellis the extra I guess features that you

(25:03):
would typically get on the DVD,so music, videos, behind the scenes
and all that stuff, which,honestly, square is usually a movie that's
released like so quickly. Usually don'teven get so much of a trailer.
You just get the movie and like, go home, that's it. That's
it. Like what do I meango home? You're home already if you're
watching Disney Plus. So with thethirty dollars premiere access, you were able

(25:26):
to get the movie. You wereable to get the trailer as well as
a lot of behind the scenes,and I'm sure a lot more is going
to be released somewhat soon. Soprobably I feel like we have to factor
this in into the review process becausethat wasn't necessarily received well. So I
don't know exactly where. Maybe we'llgo in the first copy, maybe it'll

(25:48):
be in the reception. So inreception we typically talk about the trailers.
We've been looking at trailers for thisfor about a year now, I mean,
it's crazy a little over year now, yeah, I mean it's been
a while. So we've been watchingthese trailers and we've been very familiar with

(26:10):
the live action remakes. I thinkthe most recent one for the live action
Disney remakes was Lion King. Wewatched that. We reviewed it here.
I liked it. I feel likeyou liked it too, So we liked
it, but we understand stood thatit didn't really bring much yep. And

(26:33):
I'm so glad that we're talking aboutthis now because I will be bringing a
blan King at the end of itof this review. But in any case,
I was a little hesitant about MulanBulan was not a movie that I
watched in theaters at the time thatit came out, but I was familiar
with it, and I'm pretty sureI must have watched it on video because
I knew what happened. I justdon't remember sitting. Maybe I didn't see

(26:57):
it in one sitting. So yeah, I mean, I don't know,
Like it was just like, Okay, it's another Disney new movie. I'm
just interested in seeing it. Youknow, they'll skin off my back if
I don't. So all of asudden, late maybe late last year early
this year, a new trailer cameout. I was just like, yeah,

(27:18):
okay, it's looking good. Ithink it was the round January when
it came out, and we wereall pretty excited and waiting for it,
and then rona virus came in andchanged everybody's plan, so that got put
on hold. Yeah, so we'rehere now, and you know those are
the trailers. We liked it.I mean, we had some questions whether

(27:41):
or not we were going to getsome staples from the Mulan movie, like
the music, like psychic characters,like things. There's a lot missing in
this movie. There's a lot ofmissing. There's a lot missing that are

(28:03):
familiar within an animated feature film that'snot present in this, you know,
live action feature film. So Imean, what are your thoughts. I
mean, I'm trying to remember,like what I said about the trailers in
earlier episodes, I felt like Ithought it was promising, um, but

(28:26):
at the same time it did had, you know, some reservations. As
you know, we've been watching thesedifferent live action versions coming out of all
these films. Um. But Ithink I want to say that I was
still looking forward to it, andyou know, now seeing the film,
I would hope that because I didenjoy it. We'll get to that in
a little bit. But yeah,I mean this moved. The journey for

(28:51):
this movie was so weird. Itwas. We had those trailers, then
we had you know, we hadthe political side of it. Then we
had the whole yeah thing a bitcoming out March and then didn't come out,
and then we were like, oh, what are they gonna do with
it? Are they gonna keep intheaters? They can put on streaming service.
Decided it was finally going on streamingservice. Behind the paywall, behind

(29:11):
the pay wall, excuse me,Yeah, I forgot about that one part
two. And then on top ofthat, it is behind a paywall of
a streaming service that you're already payingfor, and then here it is,
yeah, ugly laughing. But inany case, I you know it,
Yeah, it's weird. Like whenthey announced the movie, I was like,
oh man, we're just going throughthe entire gamut now, like we're

(29:33):
just picking things up that whatever's left, we need to remake it. So
I laughed. I laughed secretly.I don't think I laughed out loud or
I don't think I mentioned on theshow. But when Disney Plus came out
they announced that Lady in the Trampwas being remade, I was like,
man, you just I haven't evenwatched that, You're right, match that

(29:55):
either maybude, we'll do it too. Maybe we'll do a comrad when that's
like old and dusty. Yea,I'm just like, you know what,
I'm gonna call it right now,let's just pick a random number. Episode.
Oh you're gonna do it, aren'tyou? Two fourteen? Episode two

(30:18):
fourteen review of Lady in the TrampLive Action. But man, I hope
it's still available because it's, youknow, give me be doing some stuff.
Hold on, I'm gonna put itin my reminders. I'm gonna put
it on this digital grease sport.No, don't you side note. This
man tried to get me to signup for a website to do things that

(30:41):
we can already do on other devices, and I'm not having it. That's
the most already get out of me. Don't you sign up for another website?
You have to give context for that. No, I'm not that.
No context is needed for that.This is you and me context only.
That's not what the show is.It doesn't matter. That's the one thing

(31:06):
we're keeping from everyone's. Sorry,I'm sorry, audience, that's the one
thing you do not get context on. Oh my gosh, it's so funny.
We will have to unlover that.Yeah, we're gonna uncover that later.
Yeah. Two fourteen. I'm stillgonna put this on the grease board,

(31:30):
please stuff. So two fourteen Lydiantrip. Oh oh gosh, that's
so good. Anyways, it's fine. I don't know what I mean.
We we are clearly planned and preparedfor this. We are so mulan.

(31:52):
The reception has been weird since itsinception, but it's out now, and
I have to say, I reallythink the weight was worth it. It
definitely could have been a lot worse. Okay, so maybe we are differing
in opinion there. So let's getinto the next covey, which is the

(32:12):
plot. Yeah, reno the plot. So this is a quick plot synopsis
from Rotten Tomatoes and it's pronounced tomatoes, so everyone is aware about that,
really not. When the Emperor ofChina issues a decree that one man per
family must serve in the Imperial Armyto defend the country from the Northern invaders,

(32:34):
Hua Mulan, the eldest daughter ofan honored warrior, steps in the
place of her ailing father. Shemasquerades as a man Hua June, and
she is tested on every step ofthe way and must harness her inner strength
and embrace her true potential. It'san epic journey that will transform her into
an honored warrior to earn her therespect of a grateful nation and a proud

(32:55):
father. Very well done, andthat plot very much, very similar to
how the animated feature film happened innineteen ninety eight. Yes, so with
that being said that the plot's thesame, we should probably talk about some

(33:17):
of the differences in this copy soas we hadn't mentioned before. I mean,
it's pretty much the same, it'sbut it's not. I mean,
okay, one has a talking dragonand a little cricket, right, so
sidekicks one, right. It's soit's important to say this because there are

(33:38):
no side kicks or none. Well, we still had the three like the
three dupases where they side kicks,though kind of I don't consider them psyekicks
and the Disney stands anyway, they'renot site kicks. Yeah, supporting characters,
yes, side kicks. No,they were not pretty much supporting characters

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in though. But they wouldn't callthem animal sidekicks because in every single Disney
animated film there's always an animal sidekick. Saying how it works, Okay,
So yeah, no animals like gigs. However, what was substituted for the
dragon? Which I'm pretty sure manypeople who are familiar with the nineteen ninety

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eight animated like substituted Eddie Murphy's voiceas Mushu as the phoenix. I'm pretty
sure everyone at one point or anotherwas screaming, moan and at Eddie murphy
voice whenever the Phoenix was present.I sure, did I know there's somebody
else that's out there that did it? We know somebody? Yeah, we

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know, yeah, we do.No one anyways, Um, and so
did it work? Is the question. Now. I'm a big fan of
Eddie Murphy, and I feel likethat's what made the movie for me much
more appreciative. Since the no animatedfeature, you know, and I'm sorry
not animated feature, there's no animatedsidekick. Lund kind of has to stand

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on her own, which actually workedout remarkably well because he is alone in
this. It really doesn't have thesupport and there's some other supporting characters that
are in there, which obviously we'regoing to be talking about when it comes
to acting. But I liked it. I really liked how she didn't really

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have anybody to talk to. Shetalked to the horse, but obviously the
horse is just a horse. It'snot really a character. It is an
object that Luon stole in order forher to accomplish what it is that he
was hoping to accomplish. So Imean it worked. I mean, honestly,

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like, I didn't think I wasgonna like it as much, but
what they ended up leaning into inthe movie really worked in its favor apportance,
I would agree. Um, Imean, I do like the fact
that she was able to flash herselfout a little bit more. Um.
And we'll kind of get into this, I guess during the acting portion.

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But I do like that the relationshipbetween her and her father has expanded upon
a little bit more in this versionthan it was in the previous version.
Um. And yeah, I wasdisappointed that there was no Mushoe and there
was no you know, cricket.Um. It's actually disappointed that the grandmother
wasn't there either. No, thatwasn't another person that took out, But

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yeah, the grandmother was funny.Um. But yeah, I mean it's
it's very much similar to the original. Of course, there's no Dad's numbers,
and because of that, I feellike there is a moment in the
original that's handled a little bit betterthan it was here, especially when it
comes because there's a moment right afterthey're doing you know the musical number for

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Girl walth fighting for and mid singing, they come across the village that's been
destroyed by by the Huns and everyonejust is silent, and then they're all
just staring at this village that's beendestroyed to the ground. When they were
all being all happy and jolly.In this movie, they have that scene

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of them coming across the village that'sbeen burned down, but it's literally like
a throwaway type of thing, likethey come across the village, like look
at the village, all right,moving on, and it's it just felt
way more impactful in the original versionthan it did year. Yeah, and
then there was one more moment thatI really felt like they could have fleshed

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out a little bit more specifically,and I kind of wrote this in my
written review for Mulan one. Youcan check that out on the website.
I was talking about the music specificallyfor this scene. But the scene is
a hole is works for me,and it's the moment where she decides,

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you know what, I need togo in place with my father and I
need to be the one to goand protect him because I don't because I
don't want him to, you know, have to bear this. And you
just hear the music swelling, youhear everything going, and you can feel
the intensity in her eyes and likeher hesitation when she goes to like cut
her hair and she puts on thearmor and everything like that, and you

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feel her transforming into this you knowpersona that she's going to be taking up
for the you know, for thefor as long as she can, for
as long as she can basically,And it was so it was such a
monument monumentous moment in the original film, and I was waiting for something similar
for that here and again, justlike that other scene, it was kind

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of like Okay, I'm put onthe armor, he's out. It's like,
oh all right. Like I feellike because was the relationship between her
father and herself and this movie wasso much more flushed out, and I
thought that scene could have hit alot harder, yeah, but they kind
of didn't. So yeah, Idid feel like it was kind of rushed,

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which is weird because this movie's halfan hour longer than the original.
Yeah, yeah, there, Soit's by no means why I think this
movie is perfect as far as likethe changes that were made, there were
some things that they really developed verywell. As far as the plot is
concerned, the relationship between Mulan andher father was impressively like it really waited

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and you know, you were obviouslyable to see Mulan as a child growing
up and seeing her rebellious spirit energyand now that's being channeled and now she's
very much not like any other person, and knowing because this path was taken
on so early, knowing what thatwould mean later on. This really focuses

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more on what I was just talkingabout before the break. I mean,
you have the opportunity now, sothe decisions and the actions that we make
matter. So you know, thatwas something that was done and it really
started to show when he was ayoung girl. And when she was later

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told that her role was going tobe getting paired up with a matchmaker to
be matched with the husband. Heknew that that was going to be something
that you would have to accept orhonor of her family, which is obviously
something that is taking a most importance. I mean, I really loved how

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that whole leading really worked before themovie quote unquote got started, it was
great. Now there were some charactersthat were completely removed and replaced. Shenton
was removed and replaced Boori Khan.Now Boykon is played by Jason Scott Lee.
I love that character. I lovedthat character a lot more than I

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thought I wouldn't. Well, hewas more flushed out. Shan You was
terrifying, let's just put it thatway. For an animated cartoon. I
was just like, Nope, notmissing with that person. There's lots of
characters that have been like, I'mgoing to push that person off a cliff
scar. I mean, yes,he was dangerous, but I feel like

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I would be able to take himon. But shan You not touching that
guy with it? Nope, thatman did not care. So I don't
know, like for all the changes, the changes didn't really bother me.
I'd really feel like the changes helped. And like I said, there were
characters that were removed, and therewere some characters that were added on which

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we're going to talk about in acting. But one of them I really can't
say her name, but I knowThe actress's name is Legong so young.
I'm so says young as I'm sorry, I'm butchering the name right now.
I apologize, okay. I meanit's very hard to say. Yeah,
it's yeah, I'm not proficient,as you can tell. But um,

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the from the differences from the animatedfilm to the live action film, I
appreciated that character very much, soso, and I think that was something
that was needed in order to showa reflection of whom Moolm was and the
actions that were being taken. Iunderstood the reference let let me go,

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So that's I mean, we'll talkabout that in a second. Yeah,
but really the story kind of goesand hits the same beats that the animated
film did. They had the thesnowy hill scene. There was no commander
of interest that was change. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of wish that

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they did. But if they didhave that character that we would have to
have be a man, and thenI would just be more upset. Yeah,
I mean, the plot, likeI said, it really to me,
it worked. I really feel likeit worked. So this is the
way that I see it, andI've kind of thought about it now as

(43:29):
a movie by itself. If Idon't compare it to the original, I
really like it. But then ultimatelyyour mind is going to bring in that
comparison no matter what. And whenyou bring in that comparison, I still
like it. But I have reservations. Yeah, I just I've learned a

(43:53):
long time ago. I feel likeI'm going to hate all of these movies
if I do that. Sure,and do that. Like Beauty and the
Beast was another one. I wasjust like, oh, Nope, not
liking this. Don't like this.You're not singing the song the way I
want you to sing the song.Can do that? I mean, an
animated film, musical. Even whenyou're doing a musical and a live action

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film, you gotta have to adaptit. You gotta have changes. It's
gotta have its own life. SoI've learned to stop. But this is
the only movie that changed I know. I keep bringing this up. This
is the only movie that changed myopinion on a previous live action film,
which we will definitely talk about.But yeah, that's I mean, that's

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the plot. I don't know ifthere's anything else that you want to talk
about the plot before we go tothe next one. Nope, let's go
to room acting I mean action.Excuse me, don't you dare? Action
was amazing. I give that ninepoint five. So this movie was pretty
much a lot of action. Likethis was turned into an action flick for

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the most part. Um So Ihad when the movie started, and I
texted this almost immediately after the moviestarted. You know what I'm about to
say. Movie starts, you know, nary open narration, blah blah blah,
and then they start showing Ulan aschild and you know, she's chasing's

(45:21):
chicken around and she's like jumping offrooftops and whatever, and I'm like,
this is ah, this is givingme some Prince of Persia vibes. So
no, don't say that, becausethat movie also starts out with das done,
like you know, doing parkour andeverything like that. And I'm like,
this is not this is not howI wanted this. You feel that

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a way? I don't. Yeah, I mean, it just felt like
that sort of I don't know,like they were kind of building her up
type of thing, and I'm like, all right, they're showing her from
from child. She's like got thisincredible cheat and by the way, she's
only this powerful because she has incrediblecheet, not just because she happens to

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be an everyday person who overcomes greatnesslike the original. All right, fine
whatever, let's see where this goes. Um, And from there it definitely
got better, like, you know, definitely the one of the big fight
scenes in the middle of the moviewhere yeah, I guess it's the middle
um where you of course you havethe snowy mountain scene and all that stuff.

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The fight choreography I thought was prettygood overall. Um, it did
remind me of like, you know, Come Foo flicks and stuff like that,
which which is a good thing Ithink. Um, Obviously the choreography
isn't as embellished as it is inthose other films. Oh no, I
don't think. No, it shouldn't. It's not that it isn't that type

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of movie. Sure there's action inhere, but it's not that type of
over the top you know on wiresand cranes and everything, like you know,
Stephen Chow movie or something. Soyeah, I mean I thought everything
was very very well handled. Idid like the camera work for a lot
of the you know, yeah,these scenes like you know, the camera
flipping like from for the cold horizontaland stuff. Like that was cool.

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Touches we saw, of course inthe first trailer where they did that flip,
and they did that a few timesin the movie. Um, but
yeah, I mean overall, theaction isn't like I didn't think it was
like the best action I've ever seen, but probably the way that this movie
is presented, it kind of fitsand it's not like again, it's not
over the top. It's not liketame either. It's like somewhere in the

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middle. If you're comparing the animatedfilm to the live action film. I
don't think this movie brought any changesas far as the action is concerned.
We've got the training sequences. Yeah, there were a few more. I
mean there was a part where Mulanchased after them, But I don't really

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know like it was cool. Don'tget me wrong. I love seeing it
very memorable and whenever something new isadded and actually makes me pay attention to
it more because I'm like, okay, so this is here. Why did
they added And that was there becausethey were going to lead Gun's character,
which I'm not going to say hername because I'm bad at it. So,
like I said, I don't reallyknow there were that many changes,

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and that's good because I don't feellike that film really needed to deviate too
much from action and plot and allthat stuff. But the changes that they
did lean on, like we talkedbefore, worked out very well. So
the action, the action itself andthe action pieces how it moves from one
scene to another action really worked well. And that leads us to acting.

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Now acting, I mean, thiscast has everybody, and I really loved
who they casted. They had youfeel lou as um danny En I forgot
he was in this film, soseeing him in this film was great.
As commanded Tongue, Lee Gang completelywell, I don't know if it's a

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completely new character because she transforms intoa hawk and hawk was in the animated
film, so maybe not. Butlean character and say it's a new character
who she represents in relation to Mulanwas fantastic. I loved it. I
was just I mean, it hadit caught my attention and it was something

(49:32):
that I was really paying attention to. Um. Then there was the Emperor,
who I knew was gently and Iwas just like, oh, this
is going to be good, butI didn't do anything. I really wanted
him to do things that Ley issuch an amazing actor and a great action

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star. So whenever he's just actingin a movie and not things, I
always get a little upset. Ithink that part and we have to get
into voice acting because his voice isnot in this film. Guys, I'm
just gonna let you know that rightnow. It was really distracting, and
it's one thing that really bothered me. It was that. So here's the

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thing. I don't I think thatwas his voice because he also speaks that
way in that like, you know, much more toned down, basier voice.
He speaks that way in the Mummy, and then I'm pretty confident he
also speaks that way and Forbidden Kingdom. So I don't think that he's being
dubbed in every single movie he's in. I just think he's doing a deeper

(50:40):
voice. If his voice is highpitched for sure, right, if you've
heard him speak normally, yeah,it's a little bit more high pitched,
right, And that was the partthat was distracting. In certain roles,
he's definitely had his voice deepened whereye happens his own voice when talking?
I need to know more, tobe completely honest with you, I need

(51:00):
to know more because it was distractingbecause I was looking at it, I
was like, something doesn't feel right. It didn't feel right. It didn't
He could have just played, youknow, his normal voice self and it
would have been fine. So thefact that he wasn't fighting and the fact
that his voice was just darring towhat I was expecting, it just didn't

(51:21):
work for me. And so Idon't know, it just felt like a
different person. And I don't knowif it really needed to be a different
person. It could have been Gentlyas the Emperor and like literally Gently as
the Emperor and it would have worked. But I mean, he had a
beard on, deeper voice, didn'tact, and it was just like,
thank you, I mean I willI will say, having Gently and Donnie

(51:44):
and in the same movie and thennot having like some sort of right like
a two minute fight scene with themdoing something that was a little bit of
a way. It was a wasteto me. To me anyway, I
don't know, it could have beenso much more. But yeah, Jason
Scott Lee, his acting in thiswas absolutely phenomenal. Definitely not shown you.

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But I'm not going to compare thismovie to the animated film. I'm
just looking at what he was doinginside the film and his presence, acting,
ability to convey fear and to beintimidating or a new character worked one
or two them, and I woulddefinitely want it again just for him alone,

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that's fair. So there's no commandercharacter as we talked about before,
Well there is a commander, butthere's not a love interest between Land and
the commander. So the love interestis in a character called Hungui. I
think his name is yes Hunhui.And wasn't expecting that, And I don't

(52:53):
know if it worked, but theymade it work, and I liked it.
I liked it. Instead of theentire battalion going into the water and
speaking with Mulan, it was justhim. And you know, I mean,
you can't really say that you're notgoing to take advantage of scenes like
that. I'm sure you should reallyillustrate why Mulan doesn't go shower because he

(53:21):
can't is really what it is atthe end of the day. So and
I do I do like how shekept like how that scene was. I
don't know, like I felt likein the original it's just like, oh,
taking casual bath blah blah blah,and this one it's like she kept
purposefully not taking a shower because shedidn't want to reveal herself. And then

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finally everyone was like, dude,come on, you stink. Yeah,
and she was like, all right, well, like us, I kind
of have to now. And thenlike it progressed a little bit more naturally
in this version than it didn't theoriginal. I feel right, and it
worked. I feel like in asfar as plot is concerned, going back
to that covey, it works.It really I thought it was done very
very well. Yeah, and thenthere's you know, like I liked the

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sister character. I forget. Iapologize. I don't know the sister's name,
but I like the changes. Asfar as the acting is concerned,
I believe everyone did the roles thefather in the film, and I have
seen this acting before and I'm amachine that I don't know the name.
I apologize. What is his nameagain? Zema, that's it, Zima,

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he played Zoo. That's that's thecharacter's name. Mulan's father. He
was in UM. I know themovies that he's been in, but I
know he was an agency shield.I know he was in Moo Assassins and
a Rival. I don't know ifyou've ever seen a rival, But we
should definitely review that movie. Thatmovie is phenomenal. Have you seen that

(54:52):
movie? I have not, Ohyou should. You're also missing one more
movie he was in, was that. I feel like you should know.
I mean, there's lots of movies. So he was in rush Hour,
he was in rush Hour. You'reright, it's the girl's daughter. I
mean the girl's father, the girl'sdaughter. Yes, yes, yeah,
you're absolutely right. So I mean, like I said, Stella cast stella

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acting. I mean, everyone broughtit. I don't feel like anyone they
didn't bring it in this film.Yeah, no, I agree. I
thought again, the relationship between youknow, Bulan and her father, I
thought was one of the better thingsthat was improved from the original. And
seeing them both act off of eachother, I thought was done really really

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well. Like the intimacy between thetwo of them. Yeah, especially when
they're both, you know, sittingdown first of all, when they're sitting
at the table as a family andhe gets upset and all that stuff.
The way that he looks at herlike, hey, listen, you're the
daughter. You have a job.I'm the father. I have a job.
I need to be the one doingthis and bring on her, and
then they both and then he realizes, all right, I might have been

(55:58):
a little bit too harsh and thenhas that a little heart to her,
just the two of them, mwhen he's like, you know, checking
out his sword and everything. Yeah. Still just you know, their expressions
and in their eyes you can kindof tell that they were bringing in there
all. So I really really enjoyedthat. I mean, honestly, I
felt like you and Mulan really carriedthis film for me. And I mean

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it's the relationship that makes, youknow, makes her motivated for the entire
film. So well. I thinkit's actually it's interesting as you're saying that
too, because when you watch Mulan, I don't think that's heavily emphasized enough
because there's a lot of things thatare happening in Lan the animated film that
we don't talk about, like theimportance of a matchmaker, Like in that

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culture, it's it's important to hitthese goals in these markers in order for
you to get matched, in orderfor your lineage to continue in a very
specific way. Yea. So therebelliousness there, that's even a word.
But how Mulan rebels and doesn't wantto do that is almost seems flippant.

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And I'm not knocking Lulan. I'mnot saying Mulan the animated film is a
bad movie. But I think itbrings strength in this area in the live
action film in a way that Idon't know if the animated film could have
done, which is why I loveit so much. I don't want to
compare it because when it stands alone, it's great, and if I compare
it, I'm like, it's stillgreat, it's still phenomenal. I wasn't

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expecting it. To be completely honest, you have to understand the culture,
which is not something I would havebeen able to do, to be completely
honest. So I'm glad. I'mglad it's out and we're able to view
it and study it and learn moreabout the culture. If this is what
I feel like these movies have theopportunity to do. Yeah, music,

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let's talk about music. Let's talkabout the music. So as a cinematic
score, I enjoyed it tremendously.If I put it up against Bulan the
Animated Film, it's not gonna work. It's gonna failure for a single time.
Yeah, so if I'm looking atthis on its own, it works.

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It really really works. And literallythey were teasing some songs, some
or one. The one really wantedthat song to really come out, but
it just it poked out its head, sang a little melody and stopped.
Yeah, I mean so the songin question, which again I also questioned,

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like, was this the big songfrom the original? And I because
it was, because you know,Christina and Kulia sang it was reflection from
the original, and they don't flatout sing it in the movie because there
are no musical numbers or anything likethat, right, But they honored it
by you know, having instrumental versionsof it a score of it, right,

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which I was like, okay,that's cool, perfect that is that
is a great way to incorporate themusic of the original movie without actually singing
it, right, But they didit so much, and I'm like,
all right, guys, I understandwhat you're doing. There is quite literally
other songs from that film that peoplelove, one in particular that could have

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just been a quick instrumental during themontage of them training, and I'm like,
anyway, but yeah, for therest of it, I did.
I did like the score but Ididn't think it was that memorable, to
be honest. I've mentioned earlier aboutthat scene of you know in the original

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animated where the music is swelling whenshe's you know, taking the place of
her father. Didn't necessarily feel anyswelling of any kind here. And the
only time that I really took noticeof the music was when Reflection was playing
yeah and cool. That's supposed tobring the emotion out. But if it's

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only when you're putting a song thatI technically already know out there and not
really doing much more with it,and I'm like, oh, they look,
there's oh and it's gone and we'reback to kind of kind of you
know, normal music, which notto say that it's not bad, but
I wasn't as engaged with it.And I'm wondering if this is because this

(01:00:29):
was a home release and I didn'texperience it in a theater, and if
I would have noticed it more ifI was at a theater. You remember
a while ago there was a moviethat was announced literally at Super Bowl and
it was released on Netflix like literallyright after the game. Yes, it
was called The clover Field Paradox.Yes, I have always felt like that

(01:00:51):
set a weird precedence where these bigfilms were being released on Netflix on small
screens where we simply don't have,like the sound system and the theater experience
to really experience it. Could Couldthat movie have bombed in theaters? I'm
sure, But I also feel likewhen you're looking at the film on a

(01:01:13):
big screen, it just looks bettercleterally, because you have to you have
to scope, you have the youknow, the grand size of it all.
But when you're looking on the smallestscreen, it just, I don't
know, it hits different, ifI'm going to be completely honest with you,
and that works not only for visualeffects, but it also works for

(01:01:34):
frecking music, man. I mean, like the music you need the rising
strings, all the speakers that existsinside of a theater room. So I
mean, I love the music.For what I was able to hear.
I probably should put on headphones soI could hear it a little bit better,
But I don't know, man,it's I liked it. I liked

(01:01:55):
it. The composer was Harry GregsonWilliam who actually did Shrek your favorite Listen,
We're not gonna be talking about Shrekthis year. I mean this episode
so you know, I'm just sad. It's it's good. I think he
did. I mean, he dida fantastic job. I loved it.

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Yeah, I just don't you haveto try to find line because I feel
like most people are expecting, likeyou should just put in that song in
there and just like play it.But perhaps they did it and it didn't
test well, So this way theyprobably didn't do it as much. Well,
here's the thing too, Like,in all honesty, this movie is
a lot more serious than the originalwas, Like let's put that, let's

(01:02:37):
face it. I think this isa much more down to earth, grounded
version of this of this tale,and so yeah, having like these really
funny happy Giddea songs would not meshwell. Right, So yes, I
understand it from that point of view. Right, however, you can make

(01:03:00):
a somber instrumental version of the songshe really really wanted to, So I
don't agree. I feel like theytried to make it work with like the
normal sound and it didn't work well. So they're like, we're not doing
it, but didn't really try tofigure out a way to incorporate it a
little bit better. But that's notoccur there. Yeah, um, yeah.
I mean the music, it's it'sgood, it's okay, it's nothing

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groundbreaking, it's nothing you know thatwe haven't heard before. Basically right now.
When it comes to the look ofthe movie cinematography, everybody thought that
it looked fantastic, ten ten outof ten. The cinematography was done by
Mandy Walker, and I don't knowwhat else she's done. No, actually,

(01:03:42):
I do, look at up rightnow. Was known for hind Figures
Australia tracks. I think she's knownfor An Milan obviously, so I am
a big fan of pen Figures.I thought that was expertly done. But
honestly, they were just moments insidethis film that just completely had me.

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In the very beginning, when youcouldn't see Malan's you know, young Lan's
face, when yeah, the bamboostick, he's practicing, you know,
moves and exercises and you know,not showing off, but exercising and showing

(01:04:25):
what it's capable. I like,I fell into it right there at that
moment. I was just like,oh, this is this is good.
This is a very good start,and it just kind of grew and I
don't know if you noticed that thelighting of the film got progressively darker as

(01:04:45):
the film progressed, and it becamemuch more red and hues, and it
was purposefully done. I loved it. The scene that really caught my attention
and really solidified as this is afilm that I really enjoyed it was when
she Ulan revealed herself to the battalionsaid I lied, yeah, and she's

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walking out of the out of thesnow. No even before that, when
she when you dere's a long shotof the battalion all the way to the
right and there is you know,moul On to the left, and when
she shunned, he walks away.That scene is steered into my mind forever.

(01:05:29):
It's not an easy shot. Tomake it seems simple, but to
film it and make it look goodis not easy. So for that,
I you know, I will beabsolutely watching this film again. Yeah,
I mean yeah, no, Iagree. The look of the film is
fantastic. There are a lot ofreally really good shots, just like the
one that you just described. M. I will say though some of the

(01:05:51):
editing was a little weird. M. Yeah. I don't think he can
win them all. Oh, youdefinitely can't, because like this one would
like sometimes I'll there there's some editingweird little things. I'm like, oh,
that's a little weird, all right, whatever, Like I'll kind of
glance over it. This one.When I saw it, I was like,

(01:06:12):
wait, did I skip a scene? Did I hit fast forward by
accident? So there's a moment inthe battle with the Warrens, and you
know, she sees that she's they'rethey're fighting a trembiuchet and her friends are
gonna die. So she's like,I need to do something. So what
she does is she realizes, oh, hey, there's a snowy mountain peak
behind them. I could probably usethat. So what she does is she

(01:06:33):
gets on the horse and she startsheading, you know, towards like the
outside to kind of go around andto get behind them. And along the
way she's grabbing you know, likethese helmets, and we don't know why
yet. The very next shot,like she ficks she picks up the helmet.
The very next shot, she's drawinga bow from behind a boulder at

(01:07:00):
destination that she was trying to goto and shooting somebody. I'm like,
I'm sorry, how did you teleportfrom there to there? And set up
all the helmets and everything. I'mlike, all right, that's a little
jarring. Like I understand quick dasand stuff like that, but it's a
little jarring. Yeah, I couldhave extended the scene a little bit more.

(01:07:21):
I'm sure it's just a tad bitbecause it was it was literally like,
oh, okay, cool. Ithought I missed like a good twenty
seconds of the film just now.Yeah. And then also, by the
way, is it weird how it'sliterally they're not on a slowly plane,
but right directly behind them there justhappens to be the stowing them. Yeah.

(01:07:44):
It feels like it was just likethey were like, oh, that
was a cool scene in the original, we need to do that. Oh
we picked a battlefield where there's nosnow, but there's no behind them to
use that. Yeah. So thatwas the only other kind of weird thing
that I had. Yeah. Ithink that's the advantage of recording on a
sound stage, Like you can makeanything happen anywhere. Right literally, um,

(01:08:10):
everything CG. Nowadays everything is CG. And but to do that,
to answer to that, it didn'treally feel like I can usually tell when
it's a green screen, but thisone didn't really feel like that all the
time, not all the time,you know, like when they're in the

(01:08:30):
town and when they're in the mountainsand following the Phoenix and all that stuff.
Like that stuff all seemed real tome. So it was fine.
But when it got to that scene, it felt off. It just felt
too contained. I feel like ifyou put some ridges in there, it'd
be fine. Yeah, yeah,that's fair. So yeah, yeah,

(01:08:56):
I like just the cinematography was great. I feel like we are approaching conclusion,
Yes we are. Yeah. Sooverall, I did like the film.
I did enjoy it. I thinkthat it was fun. It is
definitely one of the better Disney liveaction movies. I feel and had a
good time. There are some thingsabout the differences that I'm kind of like

(01:09:19):
about um specifically, you know,no Mooshie or Cricket, but again,
it doesn't tie with the whole quoteunquote seriousness of this film. Also,
if you weren't going to have them, I feel like the Phoenix could have
just been sidelined as well. Iknow you wanted to have something of like

(01:09:40):
an ancestor to guide her or whateverit is, but when the Phoenix does
nothing, but it's like a quickwaypoint like it is in a game,
like, come on, let let'sdo a little bit more right, um,
Like, like it would have beencool if it's somehow like let's say,
you know, when Long lost hersword, if either A the Phoenix

(01:10:01):
would have grabbed the sword and kindof gave it to her, which that
wouldn't have been as cool because shedoes get another sword later on, which
kind of makes it more meaningful,right, Or if let's say she lost
a sword, he goes into thelava pit and then she's about to get
hit by m bory Kon and thePhoenix just comes and like, you know,
rips him off for like a secondso she can get back on her

(01:10:24):
feet or something like that, thenthat would have kind of been okay.
But Yeah, other than that,I feel like the whole phoenix thing was
a little wasted. But again,overall, I did enjoy the movie.
This is one of the live actionones that I probably will go back to
and watch it again because they didhave fun with it. And yeah,
that's my take. Yeah, Ianswer to that part. I feel as

(01:10:47):
though that the Phoenix wasn't actually there, but something that Ulan was able to
see and no one like because noone else looked at it. No one
else was like, what back isthat? Well, yeah, because it's
it's her sister right protector, right, so slash when you hit the left
stick and you see your wit woinalways with the video games. Conclusion,

(01:11:12):
for me, I loved this film. I really loved this film. And
to answer what I've been saying sincethe beginning of the review, this is
the only movie where I wanted torescore a film that we watched that I
liked, and I don't know ifI like it as much now. And
it's weird because Lion King came out. We reviewed it and I was just

(01:11:33):
like, I liked it. ClearlyI loved the animated film way more than
you know, the live action film, but like, I get why they
were doing the stuff that they weredoing. So I finished watching Mulan and
I was just like, oh,that movie was like brought down a few
notches now. I just don't know. So it occurred to me when I

(01:11:55):
was watching Mulan. Whoever watched itwas clearly a fan of the animated film,
but they also understood like much moreof the history and the culture and
how to craft a story and weavethe two together. And it doesn't seem
like it was that much of astruggle. It seemed fluid when I'm watching

(01:12:17):
Lion King, clearly fan of thefilm, but not much else. I
don't and I don't know. MaybeI'm wrong, but it's just I don't
know. It just feels weird tome now after watching lun and I'm like,
Okay, so that's clearly it.And I don't know what Lion King

(01:12:40):
the live action quote unquote live actionwas missing, but it's missing something.
I can't really pipe my finger onwhat it is. What's missing is that
it didn't add anything. It isliterally the same film, whereas with Ulan,

(01:13:04):
again they fleshed out characters, theykind of made even though I don't
agree with the message of the moviecompletely because they do think the message of
the original one stands a little bitmore, but they're still kind of in
that same realm. They push thatforward a little bit more, and they
push that loyalty and truth, andthey push that family aspect of it a

(01:13:28):
little bit more. And you know, they do small changes here and there
enough to say that this movie.Have you never watched the original, you
know you can get something a littlebit different out of it with Lyon.
Can you literally get the same filmtwice? Only one looks like a national
geographic documentary? All right, that'sabout it. It looks prettier. Yeah,

(01:13:53):
I agree. But that being said, I understand why The Lion King
was made. And you know,I kind of put this in our we
keep talking about our group chat,but basically in our group chat. I
watched a review of the twenty nineteenright came at last year? Yes,

(01:14:17):
yes, so twenty nineteen version ofLion King. Um watched the review of
it, and you know they werelike, yeah, it's nothing, blah
blah blah, basically what I justsaid. But then at the end they
do a quick little skit, likea little funny bit where somebody pretends to
be John Favreau, and you know, someone's like an audience member like asking
John favor like, hey, whywhy did you do this? But you

(01:14:40):
didn't necessarily add anything to it.You just made it look really, really
nice. And the John Favreau characterlooks into the camera and he goes,
listen, we the reason we madethis movie. Well had he goes,
hey, do you like the Mandalorian? And the person goes, yeah,
I love the Mandalorian so great,something new blah blah blah, and John

(01:15:01):
Faber goes cool, that wouldn't havehappened if I didn't make this, And
then John Faber was like, listen, sometimes you got to make a movie
that's just there to make money orjust there to do something, so you
can then take that and turn itinto something that's way more creative. And

(01:15:24):
in that aspect of it, I'mlike, all right, I understand why
sometimes movies are made and they're kindof crappy, but then somebody else can
take, you know, the moneythat that movie made and then kind of
go ahead and do something that theyreally really want to do, like they
kind of have to like prove themselvesalmost like all right, fine, I'll

(01:15:45):
prove myself by making this movie makinga bunch of money blah blah blah,
and then I'm going to really workon what I really want to work on.
Yeah. So in that aspect ofit, I understand it. Yeah,
I made my piece with that movie. I have too. Like I
said, I don't hate it,it's just it just doesn't anything. It
just again missing And if it didhave what was not what what what it

(01:16:08):
was not missing? That be fine, totally fine, yeah, exactly.
Uh. And then lastly, wellnot lastly, there's no like less first
stingers are concerned, there's no aftercredits, so there's there's no after credits.
However, Yep, there is onething that you should look out for,
and it's there's one thing that mademe super happy. Yeah. I

(01:16:30):
literally pointed, I said, Iknow her. Um, so this is
so we didn't We actually did reallygood. We didn't talk any spoilers.
Actually we did talk spoilers, dowe, Yes, like major spoilers.
Yeah, if you watch Blue Line, I feel like you know what's about
to happen exactly. But this onecan be a little bit of a spoiler

(01:16:53):
if you're if you're um listening tothis just to see how it went.
So yeah, so if you ifyou this made I didn't know that she
that this was going to happen,so um, definitely made me very happy
and I was very surprised. Soif you don't want to be surprised,
or if you want to be surprised, excuse me, don't listen to this
part. But there was a smallcameomera a miss Mingo when who a lot

(01:17:19):
of people would recognize as the Cavalryfrom Ages Shield or or you will know
her as the original voice from thenineteen eighty eight And I mean to film
Mulan. I mean that's what she'sknown for. Yeah. Um, she's
also in Kingdom Martis Mulan Hey umuh. She had a fantastic cameo where

(01:17:43):
she introduces Mulan so good and Iwas like, oh my god when I
know her, Like I was,I was genuinely happy when I saw her.
Yeah, I mean that is agreat way to incorporate in the cake.
I really loved it. Yeah.I didn't think they were gonna do
it. I didn't think they're gonnado it, and then she shows up

(01:18:04):
and I'm like, it's her.Yeah. Yeah. I kind of wish
they did that with other with othermovies. I mean, James Old Jones
was Bufassa again. So the answeris, yes, they have done that.
You know, you know what,I've been cool. If what's his
name, Scott Scott Warner Race wouldhave showed up in Alaven, that would

(01:18:25):
have been cool. And oh god, what's the what's Jasmine's voice actor name?
Linda Larkin. Yes, it wouldhave been nice with the two of
them were to show up in Yeah, obviously you couldn't really do. But
I know, I'm sure. I'msure were he alive, they probably would
have tried to get him listen.That would have been everything. But nevertheless,

(01:18:49):
it's uh. I liked it.Like I said, I really liked
it. I suggest everyone go watchit. How many stars, how many
how many fresh Gates did we givethis? I'd probably give it a four
four out of five. Yeah,four to five because if I because in
our chaps when we when I didit out of ten, I given an

(01:19:10):
eat, So four sounds about right, Okay, I mean that's fair because
I would actually give it a fouras well out of five. So,
like I had mentioned before, Itotally suggest you you watch it. It's
on Disney Plus. But like Isaid, if you do have just Disney
Plus out its own, it willnot be available. You do have to
sign up for Premier Access. ButI feel it's worth it. I mean,
considering that we have not watched moviesfrom the last five to six months,

(01:19:34):
this is something that you should probablyconsider consider. Yeah, and if
and if if you're by yourself,like if it's just you in the household,
I can understand your reservations on itum, I would still say,
still check it out because I thinkit is worth it, especially for families.
I think this is fantastic, totallymy you know, my sister.

(01:19:56):
It's my sister, her husband andher two kids, like taking the four
of them going to the movies thatthirty dollars covers it fantastically. It's way
cheaper, so definitely definitely worth itif you're in a family group. But
even if you're not, I'm bymyself here in my apartment, like I've
still paid for it obviously because wedo the show, but I still probably

(01:20:17):
would have done it. Yeah,I agree, So I'd say it's worth
it. Say it's worth it.And you know what if you decide that
you listened to our review, ifyou listen to other people's reviews. I
know Chris Stuckman did a review,I know Jeremy John's interview, a bunch
of people during reviews. I don'tknow if andre it is Yeah, yeah,
yeah that it's checked a bunch ofpeople that that we follow, they
do reviews. So if you're listenall those, you're not really sold on

(01:20:42):
it. It will be released toeveryone on Disney Plus starting December fourth,
so right months and then you canwatch it yourself. Yeah. But that
I say, it's absolutely worth it. And there's not much else to say
except thanks so much for tuning in. I'll tell you what. If you
like what we had to say.He can follow us on Twitter and I
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Speaks too. We're actually stopping theepisode now because we have yet another mover
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