Episode 99 (Part 2): Wonder Woman 84 Review feat. Emily Grayce

Late, but not forgotten, Jace and Josh with guest Emily Grayce, review Wonder Woman 1984. We also discuss some of the latest entertainment news.

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So question for you, answer foryou, Um, do you feel in
charge with that robe on? Oris that just like a comfort thing?
It's a comfort thing. Are yousure? I feel like I'm in an
interview right now and I'm being like, I don't know, I feel intimidated.

(00:23):
There's really no reason to be intimidated. It's a it's a it's a
housecoat and it's plaid. I thinkhe looks like the Big Lebowski. Oh
my god. Like I don't knowif I should be offended or I don't
know if I'm talking to or ifI'm talking to this dude. It's a
that's a movie. It's peque JeffBridges, or that's fair, it's it's

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just him, like he doesn't reallyhave to do anything more or less.
It's Jeff Bridges. It's Jeff Bridgesin a robe you are currently Guys,
it's not really a big deal.It's it's not big of a deal right
now, because it's like I don'tknow how I should act, Like,

(01:08):
do I act later back? DoI act like I'm doing a million dollars
deal? I don't know, actlike the way you normally act. I
mean, granted, the way thatI'm acting currently is the way that I
normally act. But exactly, you'rethinking too much into this. Just this,
it's another thing. It's just Ifeel like it's a thing, another
thing, a thing, not ChrisHemsworth. Can we make it a thing?

(01:30):
Oh no, I'm not really not, God didn't. Now we're like
going in No, we're not ropesception right now. Context it is here

(02:05):
we discuss insightful views on a routine, biweekly basis, over the incredibly nerdy
things we can't stop talking about.To take you on this doork your ride,
are your host, Josh I amnot wearing a rope and myself Jason,
why don't you take a seat?Said back, Relax, We're here
to do all the heavy lifting.It is about to get nerdy. This
is episode ninety nine, Part two. You know, the build up for

(02:25):
why episode one hundreds a little crazy? Yeah, it is, yeah,
because we have something very special planned. Yes, I think I already know
what this is. Oh, absolutelyyou do. Yeah, but our focus
is on today's episode, and ontoday's episode we have a special test.
It is Emily Grace, whoa Hello, Welcome to the show, Emily,

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Yes, welcome to the show.Would you care to introduce yourself and a
little in front about yourself. Sure, I'm Emily. I live in Florida,
I'm a tech writer, and Iam Jason's girlfriend. And that is
great news for me. That isa fantastic news for you. Yeah,
so for both of you. Yes, so, yes, thank you for

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coming on to the show. Now, Emily, you have listened to our
show for a while now, yes, yes, yes, and you may
have noticed that we actually have someof our popular talking points, one of
them specifically being Marvel. You,however, specialize heavily on the other side

(03:35):
of the pond on DC. Doyou care to share with us some and
the audience some of your favorite charactersfrom DC shows, stories, or miscellaneous.
Sure. I am a diehard Supermanfan, started with the show Smallville.
Okay, let's go, and I'veread a lot of Superman comics starting

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with the nineteen thirties. Um.Impressive. I do enjoy Marvel, but
definitely a DC girl. We shouldunderstood, Okay, and the time we
got some DC, which is somethingthat we have been talking about for a
long time. So um. Thoughtson the DCU inception, current state,

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and the future the DCU, likewhat are your well dislike lay it all
out. I have high hopes,haven't been super impressed, but we'll see
what happens. Okay, what isyour favorite installation? A Man of Steal,
not a steal? Nice choice,good choice okay, and close runner

(04:46):
up mm hmm. Wonder Woman ofcourse, okay, that's fair. Also
a good choice, every good choice. Okay, I'd say that's fair.
That's fair, both of those points. Yeah, we're glad that you're here.
We just noticed sometimes we catch ourselveseither in the moment or when we
are listening to ourselves, which isoften strange how often we talk about Marvel.

(05:13):
But we are again, very gladthat you're here. They can keep
us in check, and you arejust chock full of interesting tidbits and information
and history in fact. So it'sa nice little addition to our show.
So we're glad to have you.Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. So
as far as the topics for today, we actually have a few things.

(05:34):
Because entertainment, news and media neverreally rest. The main topic of discussion
will be Wonder Woman nineteen eighty fouror Wonder Woman eighty four. That will
be reserved for the last talking point. But I have question you have answers?
Did I have to watch Wonder Womantwo through eighty three to understand this

(05:59):
one? You know? Sometimes,Josh, you just give the jokes and
I have no retort, Like hereon your own, that's what I do.
You just have to watch wonder Woman, just Wonder Woman in order.
Yes, that's all you needed?Okay, cool, good, all right,
I did my homework. Good good. I'm really glad that you did.

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Sometimes I wonder about you. Iwonder about me too. WandaVision is
out. We are not going tobe reviewing it today. Currently there are
two episodes as a part of thisas so far from this recording, however,
we can say that it has gottennothing but blowing wonderful reviews. It

(06:45):
has been strange um and we currentlyhave seven more weeks and consequentially episodes left
in the series. I cannot wait. I cannot wait to discuss this because
from what I've been able to gather, it's strange and clearly don't know what's
happening, and they're dropping a lotof Easter eggs. I have heard many

(07:11):
wonderful things about it. Emily,I have to explain that puns are Josh's
thing, and sometimes it just itflies so far under the radar you may
not even pick it up. Itry, all right, I'm sorry for
what we are putting you through now, just so you know exactly what you

(07:36):
are fully gotten yourself into. PunCity over here. It is pun City.
Yeah, I like it. So, yeah, that's we'll probably do
a full review once the whole seriesis out, honestly, Yeah, and
just review it as one full Iguess, unless I, uh we or

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any of us watch it and wejust really need to discuss, like the
mind f that that happened in aparticular episode, because apparently whatever we're getting
now is just going to just pickup gradually until the serious finale. So
looking forward to it, looking forwardto it. So we'll definitely talk about
that in the future. Yeah.Yeah. So moving on to the next

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topic, is the four hour SnyderCut is not a miniseries thoughts, Emily,
what are your thoughts on this,because I know we had discussed this
off air, the topic of watchingit in segments. I think it was
supposed to be four like sections anhour apiece. Now it's all at once.

(08:45):
You just watch it and pausit wheneveryou feel like it. I feel
like This is not super uncommon withadditional or extended editions, you know,
look at Lord of the Rings forour cuts are not super unheard of.
I think he wants to keep ittrue to the movie form, so I'm
not surprised that you didn't keep itas a mini series. Yeah, that's

(09:11):
a good point, I think fromthe way I'm seeing it, I actually
was really interested to see it infour sections because it just fundamentally changes the
flow of it when you have itall at once. I think he has
the advantage of just piecing together amovie and it's more fluid that way.

(09:33):
When you have in sections, therehas to be a starting point, it
has to be a breaking point,and maybe that's not something that he wanted
to sacrifice. And his vision isan ultimate vision of this, Josh,
what do you think? I mean? I was we've kind of talked about
this when you know it was thatit was going to be. You can
either watch it in full or watchit, you know, separately, and

(09:56):
I was down for just watching andfull regardless. I mean, I understand
the appeal obviously of watching it asindividual components, because you know, it's
a lot easier to digest, right, and a lot easier for people to
be like, all right, letme watch four episodes versus one four hour
long thing. And it's kind oflike what Emily brought up about the Lord

(10:20):
of the Rings thing. It's likesome people really like that stuff. Like
I was excited to watch, youknow, um, the BVS Ultimate Cut
when it was like three and ahalf hours or whatever. So and you
know, we sat through Endgame,which was, you know, just slightly
over three hours, but it wasstill three hours, right, So I
mean, I'm personally ready for it, and I'm here for it, and

(10:41):
I would and I was going towatch it in its entirety anyway. Yeah,
I do remember Kevin that we don'tget that option. That's true,
Pet, That's absolutely true. Iwas about to say that. I do
remember there was a period of timewhere the rumor was going out right before
the release of Endgame or they weregoing to consider putting in a break in

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the middle of a movie for intermission, but they very much scrapped that idea
because they said, it's it's it'shappening, it's it's flowing when that's energy
happens, we just don't want toget into its way. Yeah, And
and now that you watch the movie, I don't even know where they would
have put the brake. I don'tAnd maybe that's what you know Snyder is

(11:24):
going through right now. Have youguys seen just doesn't have a good place.
Have you guys seen Titanic? Yes, they cut that in the middle.
I used to have the VHS tapesand i'd have the first part in
the second part on two different VHStapes. Yeah you're you're so you're talking.
Yeah, yeah, feel but here'sthe thing, Like, I feel

(11:48):
like that movie, like where itcut it was a good cut. Yeah,
Like you could literally like that first, you know VHS you go through
and you're like, okay, cool, I can see that that's where intermission
would be or whatever, and that'sa great cut. And then you start
the second you know VHS with endgame. I have no idea where you could
have done that, Like I couldthink of maybe one spot, but then

(12:11):
it's like it kills the flow,Like you were saying, if I had
to guess where an endgame, AndI'm really interested to see this for our
cut because now I'm like almost compelledto watch it all in one in one
go. Yeah, I'm I wouldsay an endgame. I could imagine after

(12:31):
the I'm travel mission and they returnwhen Fulk you know, slams the ground
because he's upset that Natasha's gone,would have been an actually a perfect time
to break. I agree, that'swhat I was thinking. Yeah, I
was actually kind of thinking before theoh no, no, no, no,
I just I personally disagree. Idon't know if I could do that,

(12:54):
but if if I were the editor, I would have just faded to
black as soon as they came back. As soon as they came back,
or after after yeah, after hekneels and you know he realized it,
maybe adding a few extra cuts ofthem, like I don't know, morning
or weeping, and it kind ofstarts up with or you could have ended

(13:18):
it, you know, after Helpthrows the park bench, you know,
into the woods possibly you know,somewhere in there. But after that,
I think it would have been agreat moment to start. There's a lot
of movie after that. There isI mean just literally from the fight scene.
You know, the ending fight aloneis forty five minutes, so it
is long. It is absolutely long. So that is all we have.

(13:41):
Actually, No, there is actuallya little bit um Emily, you had
told me that it actually earned arated our rating. Yes, so let's
go. Yeah, I don't seehow it could be PG. Thirteen At
this point, I mean, he'shaving carte blanche for whatever it is that
he wants to do. So,yeah, I'm having a movie. I'm

(14:03):
excited for it. Listen to justlet the man have his vision of what
the of what this was supposed tobe, and so we can finally see
it and then we can be done. Whether it's good or not, that's
yet to be seen. Obviously,let's just be done with it at this
point. If it's better than whatwe had, which I'm pretty confident it
will be some level, I'm goodwith it because I don't think you can

(14:26):
get worse. I yeah, it'sI mean, at this point, it's
it's really interesting with everything that's beenhappening with Ray Fisher because he's no longer
coming back. We don't even know. We haven't discussed that. We're not
going to talk about that in thisepisode because I feel like that's a whole
other bag to Okay, so weare going to be moving along. Emily,

(14:48):
you also sent me this. Thisis great. You're giving us the
drive task for the DC section.There's an article here talking about Superman's power
and how they're about to change.You want to care with us a little
bit about this in your perspectives.Um, it is in Action comic number

(15:11):
one thousand thirty and it's the WarWorld Rising arc spin and Superman will start
to lose some of his powers orhis powers will fail on him, and
they will explore how he deals withthat. UM. As of right now,
the only two things that affect hispowers are Kryptonite and magic. UM.

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But I think there's going to bean external source that's going to affect
his powers, and we will seewhat that is. So few things of
note here. I'm actually I didn'tknow that they were still making action comics
to this day. So one thirtyis a daunting number. It is insane,

(15:56):
right, And is this the firsttime, Like he's lost his powers
multiple times, he's lost his powers. He's essentially become human at certain points.
I think they're just trying to exploredifferent avenue of how he deals with
that. I mean, they've doneit a dozen times before. I think
they're just bringing it back again tosee what happens for the new generation.

(16:19):
Absolutely, so it's going to beinteresting. Superman comics have never really been
on my radar, but you know, if it, depending on how they
execute, this would be worth aread, maybe a worth a discussion.
Gosh, what are your thoughts,because I know we talk about Superman and

(16:41):
how overpowered he can be. Sosure, is this something that you're looking
forward to? Is there something thatyou're hoping to see any supremise By the
way I'm looking at the cover rightnow, the cover looks yeah, but
I'm you know, I'm curious aboutthe premise, about seeing what changes are
going to be done to him andstuff like that. It's always it's always

(17:04):
cool to see like the hero overcomewhatever things happening to him. So I'm
just wondering how he's going to dealwith it, how the writers are going
to deal with it as well,because Superman definitely has, you know,
arcs where he's written really really well, and he has arcs where it's just
like he can do whatever the hell, like he can hold infinity in his
hands, and I'm like, howdoes that work? But okay, and

(17:26):
so's it's very strange depending on youknow what you read, but yeah,
i mean this sounds cool and ifit leads to a cool Superman arc.
Then I'm all for it. Yeah, let's do it. I'm do for
a cool Superman story. Yeah,I wonder if he loses something, does
that mean there's another power that overcompensates. I don't even know what that would

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look like, Like, how doyou fly more than what you fly already?
I wonder. I don't know.So there is this scene there was
an episode in Smallville where Clark Kentlost his vision and his superhering became like
extremely heightened, and he used thatto fight off the bad guys in that
episode. So you're probably onto something. Mm hmmm. On a side note,

(18:15):
case you need to really watch.Yeah, I know, I know,
I know. Mulville is so good. Like I think I've seen like
all ten seasons, Like I've gonethrough it like five or six times.
Jeez, it's on Hulu, sonot gonna lie. It kind of skips

(18:41):
episodes around season like seven or eight, but the rest of it is great.
Well that's when that's when Michael Rosenbaumleft the show, and then it
just kind of yeah, I don'tknow. Yep, I know who he
is. I know I know thathe's like Luthor. I know yeah,
yeah, it is great. Andto be honest with you, I'm pretty

(19:02):
sure I'm familiar with most of theseason two, if I'm going to be
completely honest with you, because Idid watch it for a period, but
I just I didn't get it.I just I was waiting for him to
dumb the suit and I was justlike, Oh, this is the entire
series. Okay, got it.It's called small Ville, not Metropolis.

(19:23):
I understand that. I'm just tellingyou where I was when the show was
out. I struggled with the showat first, but that didn't mean I
didn't give it a chance. Somore than willing and interested to revisit it
again, get on it. Ithink they have all the seasons. I
also I also have all the seasonson David, so perfect. If not

(19:48):
one the other, I prefer theother. So next topic is back to
Marvel. Chris Evans. Oh,Chris Evans, my captain, My captain.
He is rumored to return as CaptainAmerica in a future Marvel project.

(20:10):
It's just too much? Is thistoo little? Are we ever going to
be satisfied? It's like it's likethey don't know when to end a good
thing. Yeah, that's they hada really good ending for him in an
endgame, you know, they wrappedeverything up nicely. I think bringing him

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back would just be a lot atthis point for at least for me to
take in absolutely correct in all honesty, Like I always thought that they would
bring Evans and Robert Downey Junior backand all them, but I didn't.
But I was thinking like, oh, like maybe you know ten movies or

(20:56):
twenty movies from now or whatever orlike this big, big, big big
men or something. I didn't thinkit would be the sooner, like less
than a year, yeah, exactly, Like it's I know, twenty twenty
felt like twenty years, but likeit wasn't. It was literally just one
year, like a little early.So it's interesting. Just like Emily was

(21:17):
just saying, like he had afantastic ending, right and it's like to
rip that away so quickly, it'slike, oh, less of it in
bad at that point. So you'recorrect. I do agree with you.
You thinks to take note, AndI think this is like the biggest thing,
Like as soon as you know,you mentioned the multiverse, like I

(21:42):
think everything just kind of comes offthe table at that point, you know,
like yeah, yes, and noChris Evans character Steve Rogers Captain America.
That character is done, but thereis a multiverse where multiple versions of
that same character exist of course,so if you do want to tell a

(22:04):
story, you don't have to takeinto like once you open that door from
multiverse, like that's it. Youcan just literally do whatever you want.
If somebody chooses to come back,he can and yeah, and I agree
with that, And I mean,here's the thing. At this point,
Marvel has literally done everything like perfectly, I would I would say like they've

(22:29):
done a very good job to explainingyou know, the Marvel universe to a
general audience, right, so Iknow that they can do it. However,
at the same time, you likethe multiverse stuff, that's where you're
going to start losing the general audience. And I feel like that's where,

(22:52):
you know, someone just sees ChrisEvans back and like let's say, for
example, you bring in the multiverseand you bring in Johnny Storm human torch
Chris Evans, the general public willbe like, why is he on fire
now? After seeing him in CaptainAmerica for solo, right obviously, you
know, like us here, weknow it's like, oh yeah, because

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he played Human Torch first in twothousand and five before he was Captain America.
So yeah, of course, bringhim back his Johnny Storm. That's
hilarious. It's great. Right forthe general public will be like, why
is he on fire and not oldnow? Right? And again, I
feel like Marvel is good at explainingthings, so I feel like they could
do it. And I think,you know, hoping one division does this.

(23:40):
Obviously Doctor Strange two's going to pushmultiverse and then you know, we'll
talk about this in a little bit. But Spiderman three, he's also supposedly
pushing multiverse, right, right,so with those pushes maybe, but I
don't know, yeah, I mean, and then at the same time,
you know, this is rumored.We don't know why type of role it

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could be, whether it's you know, Old Man Cap, whether it's Young
Cap, whether it's Alternate Reality Capor whatever, or maybe it's just a
story that hasn't been told yet.I mean, exactly, we assume that
we've seen every single thing that needsto be seen. But what I'm confident
is Chris Evans wouldn't return for whatpeople could consider a cash grab, right,

(24:27):
So that's one if he's coming backhis cash grap was doing the entire
d Yeah, I mean at thatpoint, I mean he's very well established.
She can choose his passion projects atthis point, and he's still doing
very well for himself. I youknow, I would like to see him
come back. The rumor also isthat he's coming back in the same capacity

(24:48):
that Robert Dunne Jr. Came backfor Spider Man one Homecoming, So we
don't know what that means. Haveyou guys heard of Crisis on Infinite Earth?
Yes, I would love to seesomething like that where essentially like the
older versions fight the younger versions.That would be very interesting. That would

(25:11):
be really interesting, And you know, with all of these shows that are
coming out, I think they hadthe opportunity to really dive into that and
to explore that. You know,I keep thinking about Secret Wars, where
you know, that whole story was, you know, this big crossover event
where we were pretty much wondering abouthow this was actually going to end up

(25:37):
working, because I mean, thesepeople have contracts, so they have a
limited amount of time, like wejust have to get it done for Secret
Wars or wondering who of these characterswho are actually themselves or who's an impostor
or an alien. So now wehave this fantastic opportunity. There's a Disney
Plus show starring Ben Mendels and SamuelJackson and Secret Wars and they are the

(26:03):
main characters. But like, whatdoes that look like? And I'm fascinated
about what's going to happen, Butwe're getting completely off topic. Chris Seferens
is room to return. I wantto see it. I mean, at
this point whatever, I feel like. Also, this is just you know,
an act that they're doing to tryand get Robert Donne Junior to come
back. I think that's what's reallyhappening. They're just, you know,

(26:26):
they're trying to remove any obstacles outof the way for him to say no.
I feel like his would be evenworse to have come back this early.
Yeah, because of a sacrifice thathe did at any game. Absolutely,
But again I say the multiverse,like I know, but that's like
a cheap because but like Loki,Loki is getting his whole ass show,

(26:52):
Like he's getting a whole show basedon his multi version self. That's fair,
you know, like, and itexciting, it's fun. I can't
wait to see it. And Ifeel like that's more in character with Loki
though, because he is the godof mischief, right, But he's totally
dead. He has like how manytimes have we seen him die? This
is true, but that old versionof him that we know and love and

(27:17):
that we kind of grew up withas expired, Like he isn't done.
So you know, that version ofLoki that we will be seeing this year
on Disney Plus also has that CaptainAmerica also has that Tony Stark. So
I don't know, I don't know, Like I think they have to be
really careful on how they deliver thatas opposed to yeah, we're just back

(27:40):
again, right, you know,if anyone can figure it out to Marvel,
I am disconfident in their abilities.But yeah, we've said it time
and time time and time again.They made us care about a tucking tree
in a raccoon, like come on, I yeah, yeah, and they're
just gonna keep on doing it.So that's the rumor for Chris Evans.

(28:03):
There are a couple of other things. Um, there's some interesting information about
your boy. Go ahead, waitwait you mean you mean boy anyway?
Him? Yes, him. CharlieCox, who plays Daredevil in Marvel's Netflix

(28:25):
show, which has since been canceled. Now I think out two years,
two plus years now, right,so it's been that long time really does
fly. Actually, it might beapproaching three years. That was the first
show to get canceled from Marvel's Netflixseries. Great show, but it has
been axed, and everyone has beenhoping since the massive acquisition of his knee

(28:52):
taking in twentieth Century Fox um thatthose characters could potentially come back into the
fold. So the rumor is CharlieCox, who plays Daredevil on that show,
was starring in spider Man three,the yet untitled spider Man during There's
been a lot of rumors as towhat that title will be called. Um.

(29:15):
Some of the titles include Spider Man, Homeless, Spider Man Home Run,
any of them that I may bemistake right now. Please don't let
it be home rules, just know, I just it's got to be home
at this point because we see apattern the Home Trilogy. M M,

(29:37):
yeah, the Home Trilogy. Iguess we can call it at the Home
Trilogy. Well, isn't it duringChristmas? So it could be like I'll
be home for Christmas? Or somethingcould be gods well, I mean one
part of it happens during Christmas.I don't know if it happens all for
Christmas, like Miles moralists and SpiderMan Miles moralists. How many Spider Man

(30:00):
properties right now? Are you tellingme that I'm going to have a Spider
Man Christmas movie right now? Mightwill be first? What are we watching
for Christmas this year? Elf?No, Spider Man three? That is
Christmas movie. That's what we didwith one woman. That's fair. Yeah,
when is a Christmas a week?We'll get to that. I hate

(30:26):
the argument so much. Anyways,The rumor is Charlie Cox has rumored to
a finished filming his scenes in SpiderMan three. So if you know the
rumor came out, I want tosay, what the end of December and
we are now approaching the end ofJanuary of twenty twenty one. That's that's
a significant time of filming. Soit's not just once one and done scene.

(30:52):
That sounds like something significant is happeningwith his character. Oh my,
do you know you know how amazingit would be to see him swing next
to Daredevil. We'm out there yet. I think I think we're just gonna
see I don't think we're going tosee his costume. I think he's just
gonna be again what everyone is,Oh yeah, I still hope you're yes

(31:18):
to seeing the two of them togetherlike that. So, like, are
we to assume that the Netflix MarvelUniverse is cannon and they've already set up
that story and Matt is just takingits helping superheroes? Now? Is that

(31:41):
what? He doesn't know that he'sa superhero at first? I'm sure,
remember Peter Arvil have money. It'sDaredevil, it is dared well, Daredevil
may no, Daredevil may no.I don't know, because maybe he sees
that he's like a kid and he'slike, I don't let me help us.
It would be interesting to see thatso quickly for a series or franchise,

(32:04):
a multitude of franchise that take theirtime in explaining. So it would
be odd for me. I wouldn'tcomplain, but it would be odd for
me to see, you know,Daredevil full regalia swinging around in Spider Man
three, because like, there's alot of stuff that's happening in Spider Man
three right now, right, wegot doc off in there, we have

(32:29):
you know what, then just dothis? Just give me a scene of
Spider Man perched on a building,Daredevil just jumps down. You're like,
hey kid, blah blah blah,all right bye, and just like,
huh okay, I think I don'tknow. I trust the mine hive that
is Marvel right now. So yeah, I just I'm just gonna leave it

(32:49):
in their hands. A lot ofpeople saying they're going too quickly with the
Spider Fse stuff. Kevin figi Inin a press juget interview for One Division,
said that at there is a majorityof the rumors that are dead on
right now, and there's a lotof them that are completely off base.
So who knows what's happening? Whoknows? I don't. I don't know

(33:14):
what I'm gonna do. I'm gonnaI'm gonna be more fan boyish than it
wasn't for that game. I knowyou are. I know you are.
You can't see right now, butI changed before. We were talking about
how I have my lights on mydesk. Now before it was solid blue,
Now I have a blue and red. You are a massive fan,

(33:35):
and I love it. This isthis is what we champion and what we
celebrate. Here the last bit ofnews that we have for the movie review
is. There was a video thatwas posted from Disneyland featuring Tom Holland talking
about the behind the scenes for hiswork that he's making for um, the
Avengers campus. The Spider Man ridethat's going to be there is I guess

(34:00):
almost done because it's already been filmedand a lot of the stuff that they've
been showing is stuff that's been filledbefore the coronavirus. They made it very
explicitly known during you know the videothat all of this was happening before then.
So new places to visit once everythingis normal, I don't take more

(34:23):
Spider Man rides, so yeah,maybe we can plan a trip that would
be fun to go visit and thentalk about our experiences once that's all over.
That would be I mean, Istill love like the Spider Man ride
from Universal, like it's so somuch fun, but I mean, this
could be cool. I actually haven'tseen this video. I'm watching it as
on you currently. Yeah, andit looks like, oh, we can

(34:45):
web swing what. Yeah, Idon't really know how that's going to work.
I don't want to know too much. I just want to, you
know, at this point, likeas soon as it's ready telling me that
I'm going to be able to websomething right now. I think that's what
they're saying. When is coronavirus over? Is the better question? You're not

(35:07):
wrong? Wait, this is Disneyland. Yes, exactly, it's a trip.
It's a trip. It is abig, big trip. Oh right
now, I'm kind of sad,but you can still point it. Um
and that's all the rumors. What'sup? He doesn't have the classics Spider
Man here though, which I ama little disappointed with. Yeah, there

(35:30):
is one thing that I'm actually veryimpressed with that I've for all of the
Marvel movies that I've seen so far, whoever makes and puts on the wigs
is earning their keep. Let mejust put like that, you're wrong because
Chris Heavens, I'm very certain,have worn a wig multiple times. Chris

(35:52):
Hemsworth, Loki, Tom Hitdelson hasall worn wigs and has looked very convincing.
Ned. Yeah, Ned is likethat. Yeah, Ned, I
did not realize until I saw JacobBlon Jacob Babylon like by himself. I'm
like, wait, he has nohair? What that's a wake That's very

(36:13):
convincing. I wish everyone could haveseen Emily's face as I said Jacob's He's
just like wait what, Yeah,it's it's not real. It's also side
note, apparently the dude lost thetunnelway. I was just gonna say,
I saw that recent picture of him, like with always weight loss and he
didn't have any hair. But Ithought that was new. I did not
think that that was something that hewas always like that. Oh my god.

(36:37):
If you watch any interviews like ofthe three of them, like talking
or whatever, yeah, he doesn'thave or he's shaped. Yeah, so
dude's looking good. He's looking great. I mean, I can only imagine
that he's lost. Wait for areason. He's mentioned multiple times even from
the first movie he really wants therelationship to be at a strain. So

(37:00):
I mean you could also be becausehe wanted to do it for his health.
True, you never know, butI absolutely agree, But I kind
of I would love to see themfight, right, I think that have
a great relationship, and I wouldlove to see the dynamics of them struggling

(37:21):
with him supporting him and him beinga man. Sure, that's so not
everything has to be easy. Um, whenever you throw in a monk or
wrench into the formula that usually wouldmakes it more interesting, right, So
whatever it is, I'm here forit and yay for good health. Yeah,

(37:44):
those are all the topics that wehave for today, and now we
come to the very casual movie reviewof Wonder Woman eighty four, directed by
Patty Jenkins, starring Gal Gadot,Kristin Wick, Pedro Pascal, and Chris
Pine. We have all seen this, was anybody like already know the answer,

(38:07):
but I'm going to ask it anyway. Has anybody seen it in theaters?
No? I did not either,so we all saw this in the
comfort our home on HBO Max Yep. I really was looking forward to seeing
this in theaters. Initial reviews,Emily, would you like to start?
What did you think about this film? How did you receive it? Initially?

(38:31):
I loved it, I laughed,I cried, I love the action,
the romance. Then the more Ithought about it and the more I
read about it, my review probablygot a little more rotten, which is
all those tomatoes to say that themovie is now officially rotten on Rotten Tomatoes.

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But I think my biggest problem withthe film was the whole let's have
Crispine take over a man's body,and we'll do whatever we want with this
guy. Like not really that sensitive, but I did read that. Oh
I can't. I can't say whatI want to say because I would spoil

(39:15):
the movie. So I'm not goingto Oh no, we're about to get
into yeah please if you haven't seenWonder spoilers and now you say so when
um, Wonder Woman revokes her wish, apparently that erases anything that happened with

(39:35):
that person. So her having intimaterelations with him essentially goes away. Everything
that she did with him goes away. But still, um, especially bringing
him back in the end was juststrange. Yeah. Yeah, I feel
like we're all on the same pagewith that. Yeah, that's what are

(39:59):
your thoughts? Okay, So overall, here's the thing. When I when
I think about this movie, letme hold off on the thinking portion.
I think it's fine, I thinkit's fun, it's cool, you know,
just chill, relax, watch it. I start to think about it,
that's when I'm just like, oh, okay, let me just not

(40:22):
think about it and I'll be fun. Because then, yes, you do
go into those issues of yeah,they literally just use this dude like out
of nowhere because in her eyes,and in the audience's eyes, yeah,
we're seeing Chris Pine, but it'sreally there's other dude that that they're using
his apartment, they're using his body, they're using everything. And you know

(40:42):
when you look at it, thatwhere you're just like, oh, that's
a a whole situation you got goingon there? Yeah. Um, And
then you know you have the restof the movie, which is just like,
okay, well we'll talk about that, right, I think that is
by the way, before you continue. Sorry, yes, I did want
to say one little thing. SoI just wanted to double check Rotten Tomatoes.

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And it's actually back. It's notrotten. Yes, what is it?
What's the certified fresh either, Butit's not rotten anymore. So what
is it? Like, Oh,it's sixty it's sixty tomato me, there's
seventy four percent audience huh so itwent up at some point. Okay,

(41:25):
yeah, I just wanted to bringthat one up. I always have problems
with Rotten Tomatoes because I understand whatit is, but it also because so
many people rush to it and findout what it says. There are so
many reviewers that you know, arejust going to be swayed by the other

(41:47):
reviews that are happening at that point. I truly don't know if we have
like an independent review, Like I'mjust seeing this, I'm just going to
close my eyes and I'm just gonnaleave it alone. I feel like a
lot of people are like, letme see what this person has to say.
Yeah, I guess they're right.Let me agree with everything that I'm
seeing there. So I saw thismovie with you, Emily, and you

(42:13):
know, coming out of it,I really liked it. I've really enjoyed
it. Was it strange? Yes, However, I would like to say
that I don't think that there's anycomic book movie that comes out. I'm
not saying this in defense of itor speaking out against it, but whenever
you're wanting a comic book movie,there's always going to be some part of

(42:35):
it that is super freaking strange aboutit. There's all like Batman, everyone
was just like Christopher Nolan is hailedas like the best Batman trilogy, the
best DC movie, like the bestcomic book movie ever, And I'm like,
hold on, hold on, there'sa lot of problems with the lore
of Batman. You have a superbillionaire that has medical issues, and things

(43:04):
that have been completely unresolved. Hetakes vengeance into his own hands and uses
his personal wealth to put on amilitary suit and a cave to defeat bad
guys, as opposed to like investingthe money into his city to eradicate crime.
It really doesn't make sense when youlook at it just on the beginning

(43:28):
level, and then like it justconstantly, just it keeps. It's like
what Vision says in What Was It? Civil War? Like his strength invites
more nonsense that everybody else has todeal with. This is all chaos,
right. So one of my favoritelines in Age of Ultron is his super

(43:50):
self aware moment that happens with allpeople Hawkeye where he's talking with Wanda and
he's like, we're on a floatingisland fighting robe and I have a bow
and arrow. None of this makessense. It's the truth. It's like
you can say that with every singlecomic book movie. So with that being
said, no matter how weird itgets, I still like it. Yeah,

(44:15):
there could be some things that obviouslycan be improved with every single movie,
but I say that to say,Chris Pine coming back in the body
of another man was strange. Itwas like, really really, it just
it just added all of these likeunnecessary questions. I don't think I wanted

(44:35):
to ask, and it took meout of a movie. Looking back on
it now, I kind of wantto say, it probably has something to
do with the fact that it's Iusually don't see something like people just being
brought back to life. That is, even if you start taking a look
at like let's say the Bible,like people just don't come back to life.

(44:58):
That is usually a very uni niquething that happens that not happens very
often, if that makes sense.So somebody just coming back from the dead
would be odd in its own right. So how do you bring back a
person? Now, they did,like walls appeared and nukes appeared, and
like a lot of things happened,But those are just physical, tangible things.

(45:22):
But I don't think we ever sawin that movie that a physical person
came back from the dead from likewhat sixty years ago, seventy years ago,
So I don't know. I mean, they could have easily, like,
they could have easily done it.And because it right, it's a
wish that she makes, right,she wishes for him to be back,

(45:44):
and you know, she was madeof clay. Right, you could have
ironically had a sand just build upand look, oh it's Chris Pine,
he's back fair. Yeah, shewas made from clay. He was made
from sandy. Part of their orone of the ways. Yeah, and
parts of the film like even yousaid wish and I instantly felt of Aladdin.

(46:05):
And I'll never forget the rules thatthey had to establish at the very
beginning. You can't make anybody fallin love with each other. I appreciate
that rule now more than anything asan adult, because like, there were
some serious implications to wishing somebody tofall in love with you. So glad
that's there. Can't bring anybody backfrom the dead, and what was the

(46:25):
third one? Can't kill someone,can't kill somebody. So those cardinal rules,
I feel I could be also appliedto the stone. I mean,
you just can't just wish for whateveryou want. There has to be some
rules. So if you're bringing somebodyback from the dead and you don't know
the rules, maybe something strange happens. It's not really this stone is made

(46:49):
by her version of mischief. Yeah, So it's like, oh, I
get the toy with these people,let me do whatever they want. I
get to take whatever they want them, whatever they have the most of.
Sure, in that sense, it'smore of a trickster. But was it

(47:09):
really chris Pine's character, So itwas chris Pine's mentality? Oh is it
a memory of chris Pine's character's mentalityand not explained? I mean, no,
they really didn't, do you remember, Emily h No. I think

(47:30):
bringing somebody back to life is abig deal. I mean, yeah,
it is. But at the sametime, they could there were so many
different ways it could have gone aboutit, except for the fact that they
took over this man's entire life,so like for literally how long how long
were they they are like a weekor two? Almost for two weeks this
guy's life. He just disappeared toall of his friends and family. UM.

(47:54):
Yeah, I feel like we canget really into like the strangeness of
it all. But I mean,if you're wishing for somebody to get back
and somebody is going to look asclose to that memory of that person and
then your mind just kind of fillsin the blank for everything else, maybe
that's truly what happened, and maybeit just felt like maybe it just so

(48:15):
happened that this person didn't have family, they didn't really have a lot of
responsibilities where he was on a vacation, like you could fill in the blanks.
It was just I feel like itwould have worked with a better explanation.
I don't think you should have justremoved it. I don't think you
should just totally bring back Chris Pinefrom like because again, that's bringing somebody

(48:37):
back to life from death. Sure, not something that happens often. But
other than that, like, Yeah, the movie was weird. There was
a lot of other strange things.But I usually am not too interested in
just talking about all the things thatwere bad. There were a lot of
good things. Let's talk about that. I loved I was very skeptical of

(48:58):
Christen Wick for that or for thatrole, but I loved her. I
thought she was perfect for that role. She was. I thought she was

(49:20):
endearing at the beginning and then playeda really nasty character at the end.
She could switch on and off reallyroll um. I do have to say,
I thought, um, Diana waskind of a crap friend, which
I know was necessary to kind ofmotivate her since week character to make the
wish she does. But I didn'tthink Diana was a very nice friend and

(49:44):
I see you shaking your head.Well, she she doesn't ignore her,
but she doesn't make besides the timeshe takes her out for drinks and whatever.
She doesn't really make an effort unlessit benefits her. That's fair,
But then you can also argue it'slike my boyfriend who I thought was dead

(50:07):
for sixty years suddenly appeared. Buteven before that, even before she made
the Diana made the wish. Sherecognizes that what's christ and sweet Cares's name,
Barbara is struggling, and she doesn'tmake an effort to stand up for
her much. Yeah, there wasa disconnect. I do. I am

(50:31):
inclined to believe what it is thatyou're saying because there was a disconnect between
therese two characters. Sure, theydid have this kind of friendly chat and
the trailers that kind of felt likeshe was being interviewed. And then when
I'm watching you know, the movie, and I'm like, oh, she's

(50:52):
a coworker, it didn't it.That interview segment just kind of it didn't
land correctly. So Diana really didseem disconnected, and for the time that
was spent in the beginning of themovie knowing her like how she cheated.
In the beginning, I thought wasgoing to play a bigger picture, like

(51:13):
the lesson that was learned, andI don't know if that was that happened
like it just I don't know.I just felt like an introduction, a
reintroduction to Diana's character. And becauseI didn't see the connection between the lesson
that she learned back when she wasa kid, maybe she forgot it,

(51:37):
maybe she just needed to be reminded. It felt like wasted time. So
and that was like structurally, therewas a lot of other things that just
didn't really land. I also lovedchrispin Wig's character. Her performance was been
astic. I absolutely loved it.And you know, she's taking revenge for

(51:57):
being called cat called and it.Yeah, her character was great, the
performances were great. Um Structurally itseemed odd and I'm gonna get to that
in a second. But there aresome other characters. Um we mentioned why
it's weird that Chris Pine was inthe body of another person. But his

(52:17):
performance, what did you think abouthis performance? Everybody Chris Pine, he
does great that he does very charismatic. Dude's funny, so I mean like
his the way he acted. Hisperformance was fine. And it was really
funny just seeing him like look atall the new things and be like,
oh, what's that? Like trashcan dude, like like you know,

(52:40):
him just being all interested in everything. Right, He's like people parachute now,
Like that's just funny, Like littleChris Pine's always a great time comic
timing is though, so very goodexactly. Um, I'm really curious about
what you thought about Pedro Pascal's arter, Max Lord, Well, I know

(53:02):
how you feel about it. Yeah, Well, I may or may not
get into that. I'm not sure, Okay, I just so, okay,
Petro Pascal is like becoming the newhousehold name that everybody's very familiar with.
Right, everyone would be much morefamiliar with him starring in The Mandalorian.

(53:27):
We know the work that he deliversthere. I mean, he's great
in the movie. His performance isphenomenal. He seems very comfortable in a
role. There's his moments of desperationwhen obviously it looks like he bites up
more than he can actually chew.Uh. They did his character a little

(53:51):
too well, and it felt attimes to me that in the course of
the movie he felt more of themain character than that Anna did in her
own movie. It just it reallyfelt like I was like, I really
wonder and I don't know if otherpeople have noticed this. I wonder pop

(54:12):
it. I want to know whatamount of time does Diana have versus nice
Lord, because it feels like hehas more screen time than she does and
that's weird. It's really weird fora movie. Ah well, if it's
on par then okay, so let'ssay, for example, they both have

(54:37):
with Gallant Chris. True, buthow are you utilizing that time? Because
if you're not utilizing that time properly, it's just wasted time. Like I
said, you know, you spentlike, what was it, eleven minutes
for that whole you know Ninja Warriorcontests where people are up and on poles

(55:00):
and you know, leaping onto horses, and I just felt like, because
that really didn't connect to the end, it was wasted time. It was
really wasted time. There are otherthings that were structurally, but I don't
know why. What do you guysthink, do you feel like do you
feel the same way or do youfeel like Diana had more time or she

(55:22):
was more of a main character inher own movie SI Freedomly I hadn't thought
about it. I think I thinkKristin Wig is essentially the B character.
Pedro Pascal is the I would almostcall him an anti hero. Hm.
I felt I felt really bad forhim the whole movie. I didn't really

(55:44):
feel a ton of negative emotions towardshim, more sympathy and regret, especially
when they kind of brought in hisson to use him as a at turning
point point. So I don't Idon't know, I don't know if I
would say that. I mean,essentially, Patrofascal Max Lord made the decision

(56:07):
to revoke his wish. It wasn'tyou know, it wasn't Wonder Woman forcing
him to do that. Yeah.Well, his I guess his son helped
him that, right, Yeah,because he saw his son was scared and
all this stuff. Right listen,Pedro Mascal is great. Um about his
performance was cheesy at first, butthen when you see that he's kind of

(56:31):
putting on this persona because he's tryingto be this businessman, and then you
see he's trying for his son andstuff like that, it's like, okay,
I understand it, right, Sohe's supposed to be like this character,
right, Um? And then yeah, basically he gets to a point
where he's like, Okay, nowI have all this power, but then
he realizes he's gone too far.Right, I feel like he's redeemable in

(56:53):
the end, that I enjoyed it. Um As for whether or not he
was quote unquote the main character,I like he was to me anyway.
I mean, at the same time, though, it's like, was he
considered a main character or is itjust that he was actually a villain that

(57:13):
was given a good arc? Yeah, So if he got a good arc
and Diana doesn't have a well thoughtout, grounded arc, right, that's
a problem. I mean that's aproblem. But then also, you know
what, let's counteract that. Whenwe talk about The Dark Night. Why

(57:34):
is it that we say, oh, yeah, that's a Joker movie.
He had the good arc blah blahblah, Batman His wasn't that great,
but the movie is still so good. So why is that like a you
know, I guess, yeah,I don't know, like I have to.
I mean, I've been thinking aboutit, you know, obviously since
you know, we watched it onthe release day. I don't know.
It's just that's a double standard.It is a double standard and Maybe it's

(58:00):
because I have seen so many Batmanmovies and this is the second wonder Woman
movie. Maybe that has something todo with it. I don't know,
possibly, But you know, structurallythe movie was a little off for me.
I felt like, you know,this was something that they were filming
obviously, it felt like they hadto stop while it was in like post

(58:22):
production, and they just kind ofput it together. That's it didn't feel
like a complete movie. We hadmany parts of a movie, but didn't
feel full. And it also feltlike and I don't know if you guys
felt this, but wonder Woman islike one of my favorite DC movies.

(58:43):
I don't know if I can saythe same for this one. In this
and the first wonder Woman movie,there were so many moments that Diana was
doing what she believed was right,and there was it was very much a
superhero movie, and it was abig action final you know bout at the

(59:05):
end, which I appreciated, andthere were lessons to be learned. It
felt like the lesson teaching went onoverdrive and it felt like, I don't
know, like the last act ofthe movie felt like I just want to
teach you this lesson on how tobe good to one another. And I'm
like, but what about your story? I don't know, I mean,

(59:31):
yeah, I mean I can understandthat because the lesson of the movie of
the movie is being hey, betruthful, right, be truthful to each
other and be kind to each other. You know, the truth will set
you free type of deal. Right. I felt like I was getting lectured.
I mean yeah. And it startsright at the very beginning with her

(59:52):
cheating in the tournament, right,right, She's like, hey, like,
you're not gonna win if you're nottruthful to yourself. And yeah,
they hammered that into you usually,right, it's a good message. It
is a good message. Would itbe could have been not hammered as much?
Possibly? Would we have had thesame message if it happened any other
year? Like, that's that's justwhat I've all the things that I've noticed,

(01:00:23):
I don't know. Yeah, it'sjust very The timing is a little
on the nose, exactly, Emily, what do you think? Um,
as far as maybe maybe what doyou think, Emily? But the on
the nose, this is the lesson, Like it felt very sitcommy, like

(01:00:45):
you know, what did we learntoday? To me? That it feels
very much like a comic book.Um, truth justice in the American way
and the American way people, notany other country. Yeah, it's still

(01:01:07):
good, you know, with allthe with all the criticism that I have,
that doesn't detract from the movie.I still think people should watch it.
Um It's still currently on HBO Maxif you still want to watch it,
it's there until the end of January. I think I would say as
of this episode, I think it'skind of like, what like another week,

(01:01:30):
Uh yeah, a week okay,yeah, Um, so there is
something I do want to talk aboutthough, Yes it is. And credit
scene though scene, Yeah, forgotabout that. So a lot of people

(01:01:53):
are like, the movie is allright, but that mid credit scene though,
So let's not beat around the bush. We had Linda Carter what's her
name? No, not not IndaCarter's name, but like the character hysteria,
Hysteria, Hysteria. There we go. So we had Hysteria. She
was teased in the movie, andthen Diana and donned her armor, and

(01:02:15):
then the mid credit scene we seethat she's still you know, walking around
and it's it's Linda Carter aka whoplayed Wonder Woman in the originally original Wonder
Woman. Yeah, so that waspretty dope. That was pretty dope.
So what do you guys think aboutseeing her and what does that entail?

(01:02:37):
I mean, I think it's Ithink it was just a cool little cameo.
I don't know. I mean,this is all theroduced to me.
I'm way outside of my death here. We now have a DC h a
DC fan much more than I am. That may be able to because it's

(01:03:00):
better than I can because I justthink it's cool. I don't know what
they can do with that. Whatdo you think I could do with that?
I WoT. I did read upon this and it's it is potentially
possible that they'll bring her on tothe next movie, um, because they're
actually wondering if hysteria, which Idon't believe. I'm not sure. I

(01:03:21):
don't know if she's in the comicsor not, but um, she is
a daughter of the gods as well, so some kind of like Skywalker mentor
maybe that'd be cool. I'd begreat. I'm here for it. I

(01:03:42):
mean, listen, right, andshe's in good health and she's interested in
doing it, why not do it? You know? I mean, she
was supposed to have a cameo inthe original, but they just couldn't find
a good fit. Is that right. I believe that's correct. Yeah.
So the fact that they were ableactually get her for this, yeah,
and hopefully I mean yeah, Iwould kind of hope for either a mentor

(01:04:05):
role like you just mentioned, orif she's just you know, a little
bit more prominent in the story,that'd be great. I mean, I
don't know, it'd be cool tolike see have a little little fight scene
with the two of them in therenext to each other. That'd be great.
I mean, listen, if HarrisonFord can do it in Indiana Jones,

(01:04:26):
let's let's go. I'm ready forit. There are and like,
there's gonna be a lot of thingsthat just don't make sense about this movie.
One of the things that just reallydon't make sense about this movie is
why is it the kid um MaxLord's son made a wish and it didn't
work? That really bothered me watchingthat film. Did it not? Was

(01:04:49):
it that it didn't work or didhe pull away before he could know?
Like he made the wish. Heabsolutely made the wish and it didn't just
happening. Yeah, I didn't takeand I'm just like he didn't believe in
the wish. I don't know ifthat was one of the rules, isn't
it? Max Lord essentially could grantthe wish if you wanted to, like

(01:05:11):
he granted um Barbara's second wish,which was a little off the cuff from
what the essential rules were, youknow that, Pom. Yeah, but
yeah, I guess if he doeshave the power to control what gets done
and what doesn't, he just saidno. He said no to his son's

(01:05:36):
wish, well because he didn't wanthis son to waste right? Was that
because the sudden asked for I wishto be with you more? Right?
Was that something about his greatness,wasn't it? Or kindness? Yeah?
Yeah, he was just like illNo, I mean not like that,

(01:05:56):
which was like a drank teddy bear. What's wrong with him? That's fair?
And I probably could have just disregardedit, Noah. And then there
was also Barbara. Barbara had twowishes, and we don't really know if
she revoked one wish or two.Do you think that she's coming dack?
I mean she well, I thinkthey all had to. I think,

(01:06:17):
well, since he revoked his wish, doesn't that just cancel everybody. I
don't know. I mean, it'scommon book logic at this point, so
it's possible, like like you know, you destroy the mothership, you destroy
all the other ships. I lovethat. L never understood how that made
sense, but very very convenient roleand work exactly like I think that would

(01:06:40):
be Independence Day. Avengers is acouple of other reviews. Yeah, like
destroy the main frame and everything elsegoes with it. It's like, what,
no, I have individual things.That's a terrible flaw in the system.
I don't want to pay for that. I don't want to deal with
that. Wait a minute, payingfor this. Fanos Fanos Fantos purchased that

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army and sent Loki the gun ofthis shift deleted, and all I had
to do was destroy that and everybodydies. It was just funny because like
Fanos is like this super smart,like you know, tactician, army general.

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I'm like, that's just the stupidestmove I've ever seen in my life.
Yeah, yeah, that was theold than was the old Fantos,
right, Yeah, So it wasjust it was just small things like that.
Like one person pointed out that,you know, he was on this
remote island and all of a suddenhe revoked his wish and then somehow it

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was like within like one hundred feetof his son, who was running out
the woods, Like where how didyou end up here? Also, did
either of you play Heavy Rain?Yeah? A long time ago? Oh
my gosh, a long time ago, okay? Or do you both know
the meme of the guys screaming Jasonover and over from that game? I

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don't think so. But what thismeans for context, for context, you
will have to post it in theshow notes exactly. So for contacts context.
There is a game called Heavy Rain. In the game, you play
as a father of two kids,and there is a scene where you are

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in the mall and you know you'rebuying your kid a balloon because he wanted
a balloon, and then as you'repaying for the balloon, the kid kind
of walks away. Now, thisgame is one of those interactive games where
it's like you're basically watching what's happening, but every once in a while you
kind of like walk around and dostuff in the game. Once the kid

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leaves, you have to keep pressingthe square button to call out for your
son, and the son's name isJason. So every three seconds, you
just hear Jason Jason, Jason Jasonand just like that, because they only
recorded like three different ways of himsaying it. I instantly heard that when

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he just started screaming Alister's name liketwenty five thousand times, like I will
I will show you guys the videoafterwards, but it is essentially that.
But he's doing that for Alistair,just screaming Alistair's name for like a good
minute or my favorite in Batman.All right, the same name, same

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same, same same thing. Yeah. So yeah, the movie was weird,
but at the end of the day, I still personally liked it and
I would still encourage people to watchit. So my review is, how
do we do this? We alwaysforget? This is what three fresh cheeks?
I'll give it three out of fourwere out of four. Family,

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there's one thing we actually didn't talkabout real quick, it's still three out
four. What did you think ofthe invisible jet? Well, yeah,
we didn't talk about all. Theother thing is somehow she can now fly?
Yeah, she can fly? Doyou know? Actually, do you
know what? I heard the bestthings in the world when when I heard
someone say about it, but likeshe wasn't flying she was falling with style.

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Well I was. I was talkingto Jason like, well, then
what's the point of the invisible jet? I mean if she can fly?
Yeah, because and here's the thingtoo, she can supposedly fly here and
then she can't fly Justice League.It's like what right? Yeah, And
this is why it seems messy.It just seems not every put together like

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I get it. I get it. Maybe she loses her flying abilities and
in the third Wonder Woman movie inthe nineties, I don't know, I
don't know, or or maybe guesswhat in Zack Snyder's cut she can fly
there you go. Maybe who knowsshe can fly though right in Cannon like

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in comics. I don't know.I don't think she can because then what's
the point of the invisible jet?Every or I think that she needed the
jet at first, but then shelearned how to fly because in Justice League,
the TV show, she flies right. And in the new iterations of
Wonder Woman, I don't think shehas a jet. I think it's just

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her the Amazon Woman with other warriorsthat also don't have jets. It gets
why does Wonder Woman have the jetis a real question. That's a great
question. I don't know why she'sAmazonian Greek. She has a jet,
right, none of the specs saysI don't. I don't know, And

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and that's how we're gonna end this, like when it doesn't make sense and
I have a bow and arrow andof this mixed sense. You're not wrong.
I mean it was a cool nodto have the jet in there,
thought, right. I think that'swhat a lot of people kind of talked
about when the first movie ended.It was just like, oh, that
movie was so cool, it wouldhave been even better. She had a
jet, yeah, as a passingjoke because I hadn't expect you to deliver

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on your promise in the sequel.But also she's like the actually put a
jet that's invisible. Okay, allright, Yeah, not sure if I
actually needed that, but if shewere flying, they don't. But when
she is flying, like how doeschrisp Time also fly with her? I

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think maybe that's the reason, likethe invisible jet was really for him?
For him, Yeah, I guesslike you can you can knock a movie
for all of the terrible things thatI had done, but you can also
like make excuses for everything. Yeah, So I think that I think we

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can continue poking holes in this movieaboutely Can. I still find it fun.
I still find it fun. Istill, like I said, I
enjoyed it. I still encourage otherpeople to watch it. I liked it.
I still liked it. As weirdas it was, there was something
very enjoyable about it. So,but we are coming to the end of

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future episodes. Thank you. Itwas a pleasure. Yeah, it's good

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to have different perspectives and on newperspectives and new puns. Apparently all the
new puns. Okay. Question,if you had an invisible jet and you
had to refuel it, can yousee like the No, because you can't
see the people inside the jet either, So then how do you find the

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jet? In the comics that youcan always see Wonder Woman in the Jets
in the seventies TV show, didn'tthey just have like a doll inside the
thing, like moving to It's justnot feasible. Maybe this is the reason
why they got rid of the jetmater fly Like they're just like, we

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can't do this all the time.This is not a good idea. Let's
just let's just toss the jet guy. We lost the jet. Essentially,
she stole the jet, right,Okay, But then how did she have
the keys to the jet hangar?She worked at the Smithsonian. The Smithsonian
has a jet hangar. Apparently theSmithsonian does it's comic book logic. See

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it's comic book logic, and Ihave a bow and arrow. None of
this makes sense.