November 19, 2025 • 47 mins
In today's episode WJ and KJ, deliver another entertaining and creepy episode. KJ covers the eerie legend of La Lachuza, otherwise known as the Owl Witch. Bill covers a tale of a terrifying Bigfoot account where two Bigfoots cornering a cougar on the deck of a house near Mt. Hood Oregon. And some great listener mail. Please join us!
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
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Speaker 4 (00:45):
Hey, keV, let's let's follow this trail over you. This
looks like there might be something waiting down there.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
All right, Hey, wait a minute, do.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You hear that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I thought it was just me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What the heck is that? What that is? Whoa? Do
you smell that too?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's unbelievable. They looked there, they those.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Branches are over over there. What the heck is that?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Holy cow? Is that what I think it is? Look
at that day?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh my god, it's a freaking sasquatch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Welcome to the Bigfoot, Terror in the Woods Sightings and
Encounters Podcast. I am your host WJS and author of
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And now, without any further ado, my brother and co
host kJ she and keV. How are you.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's early here in the evening in North Carolina, but
we did set the clocks back, so it is dark.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah. Yeah, not my favorite time of year. I kind
of overlook it, you know, but yeah, God, this darkness
falling in and then like you look at the clock
at seven point thirty if you get the day off,
if you're like, jeez, you feel like it's eleven.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, it's six point thirty right now and it is
pitch dark.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah. Hey, by the way, the moon coming up tonight.
Is a beaver.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I just saw it. It's beautiful. Is it full time?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
If it's not, it's almost.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it looks like it's near Lefu. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
This moon they call the beaver moon beaver. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Keep naming them after all different things. Strawberry, like a
hundred different moons. Yeah, harvest moon, strawberry moon, beaver moon,
dog man moon. Oh, I could go for that.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
The dog man, well, you know, it's funny. I passed
on a dog man report for tonight. Oh yeah, I'm
not going to go retrieve it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We were you afraid of it?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, it was a little on the shorter side, and
I wasn't going to pair up a couple of shorts tonight. Okay,
so you know, eventually everything's grist for the mill. I
got some really good to counsel tonight. Interesting crazy stuff.
But how you don't go, man, let's go, let's go. Well,
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this sighting was brought to my attention by Deborah Reynard,
a resident of the state of Ohio. And this is
what Debrah had to say. Bill. As I had mentioned
to you when we first communicated with each other, I'm
not the one who believes that things just happen by
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accident in my life. My eyes and ears are always
open to what people are saying and why they were
brought into my life on any given day. Sounds familiar.
The reason for my saying this will come into play shortly.
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My brother Edward was involved regionally working for a large
computer related firm, performing and stalling computer upgrades in a
number of different locations in the States. This was in
the beginning days of the computer boom during the early eighties,
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and it was because of this that he had rented
a property just east of Mount Hood near what I
would believe at the time was called the Welches or
Welches like the Great Jelly, but I may be wrong.
She says, it was a long time ago. By the way, folks,
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that was spelled Welcches. So after you hear this account,
if you live around there and know anything about this
or anything else, give us a shout. So I had
made my way out to visit and spend some time
with Edward for two weeks during a summer vacation. And
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when I arrived, he had a beautiful two story house
that was nestled in the woods, having a deck on
the second story. I think it was on my second
day being there, that the two of us had gone
down to a bar and grill on what I believe
was Highway East twenty six for a couple of beers
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and burghers. While we were sitting there eating, two other
men sat down at the table next to us, and
we overheard them talking about Bigfoot. Edward and I looked
at each other with a wink and continued to listen
as we ate. These two fellas were talking about a
sighting of this creature that had happened in town the
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previous night by a friend of theirs who was driving
down the very road we were on in this bar
and grill. At some point, I felt compelled to enter
the conversation, and while excusing my interruption, I introduced myself,
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telling them that I was intrigued by what they were saying. Well,
these two fellas were more than happy to have us
join in the frame began to expose to us all
that day knew not only about what had just happened,
but the so called regular sightings of this creature in
the surrounding area. We left a grill that day all
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in a buzz about what the men had said and
my conversation with Edward continued until the next day about
this supposed bigfoot monster. Some four days later, about four
o'clock in the morning, I was awakened from my sleep
having heard some type of sound. Now, the room I
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was located in was on the first floor, with its
wall against the rear of the house, situated below this
second story deck that I told you about. As I
lay there in somewhat of a groggy state, wondering if
I actually had heard something or had just gotten up again,
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a loud and resounding howl of some kind erupted, which
I knew with certainty was what had awakened me in
the first place. I got out of bed and looked
out the back window, peeking through the curtains, and I
was certain that I saw something leap into the air
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out of the corner of my eye. Now I must
tell you that this deck, which was above the window
I was looking out of, had a dual floodlight shining
down on top of it, which washed its light out
into the yard behind the house as well as on
the deck. I walked up the stairs in the house
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in the dark, my brother being sound asleep, and I
crept slowly into the kitchen, which had sliding door that
opened out onto the deck. These sliders had a draw
string set of thick drapes covering them that were closed,
and so I snuck up on them and slowly parted
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them open with my hand just enough that I could
peek out onto the deck. As soon as I parted
these drapes a couple of inches, there laying on the
deck before my eyes was a large cougar laying there,
facing intently towards the woods in the back of the house.
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I hadn't made so much as a peep with the
drapes being cracked open maybe two inches, with me concealed
behind them, and this cougar suddenly twisched his head, turned
to look at me, and immediately faced the woods again.
I let go of the drapes and immediately snuck back
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in to wake up Edward in order to show him
this lion. After briefly explaining to him the howling and
seeing the cougar on the deck, the two of us
stealthily made our way up to the kitchen, once again
parting the drapes. Edward had now seen the cougar for himself,
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and as we stepped back, he said to me whispering,
why is it on the deck and what is it
staring at? Hold on? We stepped into the living room,
and we were in total agreement that this thing should
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have jumped when it saw me, and it didn't, which
to us meant that this cougar was afraid, if that
can be possible, of something much greater than ourselves. This
was odd enough in that this cat was an apex
predator in the area, and it was exhibiting behavior, in
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my opinion, of being afraid, but of what. The two
of us now went back downstairs into the bedroom under
the deck, which is the place I had been sleeping.
We opened the blinds fully and could see the outline
of the cat above us on the deck, as well
as the edge of the woods behind the house, and
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the cat still did not move. Looking out into the
woods now we made out not one but two sets
of what appeared to be glowing red eyes. I distinctly
remember seeing one set of them blink several times, and
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the other set kind of going in and out of
view as they would if something had turned away from
the floodlight's illumination. We had our eyes fully fixated on
the trees, and seeing these red eyes, we were able
to make out the dark outlines of two very big figures.
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One seemed to be ducking up and down within the bushes,
which occurred simultaneously with our being able or not able
to see its eyes, while the other were standing waist
deep in what appeared to be the bushes, swaying left
and right. I whispered to Edward, they're too bigfoot, and
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that it was them that I heard howling. Apparently in hindsight,
the cat had jumped on the deck and come into
the light for safety, which meant to us that these
monsters could catch it. By the time we had seen
the set of eyes, we were doing nothing to hide ourselves.
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We were certain that these creatures knew we were there looking.
We were fully exposed, somewhat illuminated, with the blinds or
curtains fully drawn open. Edward had a gun and went
to get it, not that we were planning to shoot anything,
but rather in case anything developed putting our lives in
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danger with these creatures or the cat. After several long
minutes of watching them, one of the bigfoot stepped out
of the brush and into the light of the backyard,
and when it did, the cougar leaped off the side
of the deck, running off to the left hand side
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of the house. As soon as it had made its move,
the bigfoot in the yard started to run after it,
and this was quickly followed by the second creature leaping
out of the trees and following a hot pursuit Bill.
We couldn't believe what we were seeing, and we quickly
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ran to the other side of the house, hoping to
see more action. When we got there, nothing more could
be seen, and where they had run off to was
an unknown to us, all of this having occurred just
days after meeting up with the two gentlemen in the grill.
When the sun arose, we felt safe and calm enough
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to go outside. Edward brought his gun and we walked
into the yard where we had seen the one beast standing.
In the light. There were a number of impressions in
the soft grass and ground where it had been standing,
and we could see in the grass where they had
run off, which went across our yard, leading towards the road,
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and inevitably what must have been into the woods again.
The beast that had stepped out of the trees first
was enormous. Its head alone seemed to be two feet
tall from chin to crown, its body comprised of what
looked like muscle upon muscle covered in hair. I had
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never seen anything living that looked as strong as it
did when it broke into a run. With the second
one following, they had cleared the backyard into the sideyard
in the blink of an eye. I mean really fast.
They moved so fast that it was maybe five or
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six extremely rapid leaps that they took to cover, say,
one hundred feet of yard space. Having seen the first
quite well and the second but briefly, I would say
that the two of them were somewhere between seven and
eight feet tall and something like three or four feet wide,
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if not more. That very day we went back to
the grill, telling anyone who would listen about what had happened,
and the place was a buzz with our telling of
our tale. Everyone in the place started telling stories about
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their own encounters and those of others whom they knew.
The outpouring bill of testimonials was incredible, and this having
occurred in such a small place, it was something that
nobody will soon forget, and certainly not myself or Edward.
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He moved from there some six months after this occurrence,
and to this day we can't get what we saw
out of our systems. What do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
keV Wow and knew Apex predator intown near mount Hood.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Huh Yeah, well, I mean it's no surprise that area
is rife with encounters, you know. And listen to these people,
you know, it reminds me of the old Finding Bigfoot
show when they used to do the town hall meetings. Yeah,
and they'd go into some little burger or beer joint
and they'd be, you know, forty to fifty people and
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they're raising their hands about what they saw, you know,
and then they used to pick a couple that they
thought were legit, you know, and go make the show
out of them, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, but I am surprised with the cougar hiding on
the deck. I hadn't heard anything like that before, because
those cougars are so stealthy, you'd think it could you know,
it would rather not hide in plain sight. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah. Well, my thought on that is this, so you
would say a cougar probably outrun a Bigfoot in the woods,
But the fact of the matter was that they had
cited two creatures. Maybe just maybe some of the animals,
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maybe a cougar being a little smarter than say, I
don't know, an elk or a deer, had experience or
if you can call it, knowledge of two of them
trying to hem them in. Yeah, so it it fled
the scene and wanted to see what would develop. You know, cats,
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regular house cats. I've seen them, like see another predator
come in, or another cat moving around the edges of
the yard or something, and they will stay in place
and watch and watch and watch.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh, no doubt about it. I mean they or observant.
They're not going to make like a false move so spright.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They just kind of sit still and watch. But according
to this lady, this thing reached a point when the
first bigfoot came out that I better get while the
gitting's good, and it leapt off of the deck and
took off running. So I don't think it was planning
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on waiting for this thing to get any closer and
possibly cut off its chance to exit without getting into
a a tiff, you know. So really interesting and where
it went and you see after the fact, both of
them went after it. Yeah, the cougar didn't go after them,
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They went after it. So I think that is evidential
proof that they were stalking the cougar, and the cougar
got sick of sneaking around and came right out and
jumped up on this deck, this platform for whatever reason
to sit still and look and watch and see what
could happen. And when that one moved, it was time
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to get out of dodge. So but interesting, huh. It
all started with a conversation in the grill, then they
had an encounter, then they went back to the same joint,
and everybody was flipping out sharing bigfoot stories after they
started talking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, no, absolutely wild.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So you're not going to hear a conversation like that
on Long Island. I guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Different kind of apex predators.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Kevin, Wow, man, that's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
And by the way, folks, if you're new to the podcast,
we do bigfoot encounters. Kevin is about to do his
section called the Cryptids in the News and other Oddities,
And we used to do it in reverse order, and
we explained in the last podcast that we switched it
up for people coming to the podcast Bigfoot Terror in
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the Woods and maybe wondering why we were talking about,
you know, UFOs or strange happenings around the planet instead
of Bigfoot related stories when the podcast begins. So we
kind of switched it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Up a little bit, right, keV, Same content, different batting order.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yes, that's it. The Yankees could have used a different
batting order this most season. So what do you got
bro in our cryptids in the news and other oddities.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, we're going to get some creep on.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Oh oh, so maybe it's good you didn't do dog
Man tonight. Is it going to be enough creep that
I'm gonna have to take a shower? What am I done?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There's some good creep going on. Perhaps it's good. It's
a dark night.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Get dark, Yes, like Yogi Barra said, it gets dark
early around here.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh god, we're gonna talk about a legendary creature called
La la Choosa.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
La la Choosa.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, you don't. You don't know La la Choosa.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't, Thank God.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, La la Choosa is a witch owl from Mexico. Okay,
so it's a witch basically that can shape shift into
a giant owl to prey on people.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Oh oh, the freaking browning into an owl exactly?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
H le breue has just a general witch and La
Choose turns into an owl. Nice, all right, so you're ready. Yeah, yeah,
So the horror of this creature begins with her form.
They say it's a grotesque violation of the natural order.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Ugh, excuse me, Yeah, a grotesque violation.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, she's making me lose my voice. A creature. While
the details of the legend vary from region to region,
the core description remains chillingly consistent. It is, first and
foremost a massive owl. Some people say it stands four
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to seven feet tall, with a staggering wingspan of fifteen
feet fifteen feet fifteen feet winkspan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's like an air flight.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, But the most disturbing feature is not the size,
believe it or not, but the face of the creature.
Nearly every version of the tail of Encounters with the
Creatures says that it has the face of an old
haggard woman.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh my god, can you imagine this thing cackling coming
at you, like dive bombing you out of.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
The giant owl flying overhead, you know, cackling and it
has the face of an old haggard woman. Oh my god, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Can you picture this thing like coming at you out
of the darkness, maybe making some cackling sound or whatever,
and then as it gets within like twelve feet of you,
you see that face exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So they say, like, just as scary about it is
that when people see it, it's like a violation of
the natural order because you see, okay, this giant owl. Okay,
that could be a giant owl, but then it has
this old woman's face on it.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Boy, that is grotesque. Man, I told you we were
going to get some creep on. How long have people
been sighting Lachoosa.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I saw accounts going back to like nineteen forties. Well
that's a long time, but I'm not saying it doesn't
go back further than that.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, this is like the first One's like there's a
record of exactly. I guess you're talking eighty five years
or eighty years.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, and you're going to see some familiar predatory tactics
here that La la Choosa uses. Okay, you know, her
hunting methods can be viewed as being as in insidious
as her ugly form, and her most notorious tactic is
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the fact that she will mimic the sound of a
crying baby.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Oh we've heard that before. I know, yeah, like all
of these shape shifting creeps, even Bigfoot, and of course
the Native Americans worn of the crying baby, even the
stick Indians, and all of these things use that crying baby.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
To lure exactly, you know, So Lalla Chusa weaponizes the
empathy people have, you know, basically taking you know, humans
best nature and turning it into a fatal vulnerability. So
those that venture out to find the source of this
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cry are not met with a helpless child, but with
a silent, giant, swooping predator.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And you know, regular owls, their wings are designed where
they really make no flapping noises, super quiet, the ultimate
and stealthy night predation.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I've told you, you know, we have a lot of
owls here in North Carolina, and they have flown over
me both in the early evening while the sun's still up,
like like right over my shoulder, over my head while
I'm walking in the woods, a couple of feet away,
and I had no idea this thing was coming until
it flew past my head and I saw it. Right,
it could have struck you when you would have I
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never would have known it.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Nope, just boo hit you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah wild wow.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So luchus get back to the luchros.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah. Yeah, so the predatory nature is backed by a
host of supernatural abilities as well. Okay has immense physical
strength with numerous tails, insisting that she can carry away
full grown man in her talents. Holy cow. Yeah. Of
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course it is a shapeshifting beast, so it can go
from a witch to an owl and back again. And
it's also said to have the power to control the
weather and can summon sudden, violent thunderstorms in order to
create confusion and cover for her attacks.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah wow, you know, keV. Yeah, such a hideous thing.
H You know, I always say that, like wit is
smoked his fire. I don't really, I can't. I can
almost not believe that such a thing has been fabricated
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for such a long time and there's not some monoicum
of truth to what's being talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, and we're going to get to it a little more,
but I think what we're talking about is demonic stuff. Yeah, yeah,
you know, not only is it a witch, but it's
you know, a witch, not a good witch, you know,
So please don't write letters, and all you good witches
out there and bad witches don't write letters either. We're
not hurting any witches in this episode.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah. And by the way, folks, you know, if you
listen to the podcast regularly, you know, my standing opinion
is that there are people out there, knowingly or unknowingly
that conjure stuff up out of the ether and they're
either looking for it or they brought it in unaware.
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But if you send out invites, you're going to get
people coming to the party. Not necessarily people, but yeah,
you're going to get things coming to the party.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah. So, and this is where we get into this
a little bit more. Bill. So, the legends state that
this creature cannot be hurt by bullets. And more than that,
there's a belief that if you try to shoot a
La Choosa and fail to kill it, a curse will
turn back on you and you will die shortly thereafter.
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So this supernatural defense makes confronting La La Choose a
life or death gamble, with the odds stacked heavily in
her favor.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Oh boy boy, Yeah, that's trick and unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, KEVN.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Where was the last report of Lachoosea come from all
in Mexico?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
No? No, well, different places. So we're going to talk
about one here in South Texas. Okay, so close close
to the border country. Yeah. So it's called the Robstown
Panic of nineteen seventy five. And in the mid nineteen
seventies a wave of fear swept through the small rural
towns of South Texas. It started in Robstown, just outside
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of Corpus Christie, so on the east side of Southern Texas.
With a series of bizarre sidings, people walking along lonely
County roads at night reported being swooped at by a huge,
monstrous bird. Sounds a little familiar, doesn't it. Yes, something
else ye. The local newspaper, the Corpus Christi Caller Times,
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began reporting on the claims. The descriptions were a little inconsistent.
Some said the creature was only two feet tall, while
others swore it was towering six feet. But one detail
electrified the community and connected the sidings directly to this folklore.
Witnesses all claimed the creature had the face of a human. Suddenly,
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this was no longer a story about a strange animal.
It was about El Pajaro giagante de Robe, the giant
bird of Robstown. And everyone knew that was just another
name for La La Choosa, exciting spread to the nearby
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towns Banquette and Alice, becoming a full blown wave of hysteria.
The story shows how a deeply embedded belief can erupt
into a public consciousness, fueled by media attention and the
anxieties of a close knick community. For a few months
in South Texas, the monster was terrifyingly real. How do
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you like that?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah? Kept, you know again, different names for what apparently
seems to be the same entity, you know. In one,
the description which was probably recorded many times times over,
of the owl with the haggard witch face on it. Yeah,
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and perhaps in Southern Texas they hadn't got as good
a look at it by the time this report was
taken and just called it a jointing bird.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the people didn't see the face, right,
it's that night exactly. You got to be pretty close
to it, and you're not really looking at looking for
the face, right you. Maybe Now, after you listen to
this story and you go for a walk tonight and
something swoops down over you, you'll be like, wait a minute,
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turn around, let me see your face. Yeah, yeah, witch owl? Yeah,
Oh my god, Now super creepy, I'll bella and again,
you know, sounds like something from the Demonic Realm. Reminds
me a little bit of Mothman.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, no doubt about that, keV. You took the thought
right out of my mind. But you know, I can
understand when something happens to you initially that you're kind
of mesmerized watching this Johnny and flonging thing, just trying
to get an identification going of what you're looking at.
You know, that's just human nature. A wonder why didn't
(34:18):
you take the picture? Why didn't you do that? How
come we didn't do this?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You don't have any idea until you're put in one
of these situations how you're going to act or react.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
In the case like this Bill, it might take two seconds. Yeah,
you can't get your phone out and get the camera loaded,
even if you were taking a picture at a sporting
event in two seconds where you're not frightened. In this case,
you're terrified, like I'd drop my phone on the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, no, keV. I've been in situations, as I've discussed
many times on the podcast, where really, once you get
on the other side of it, you understand two things
that it's virtually impossible to break away from what's put
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before you. Initially, sometimes there's almost like an out of
body or a numbing, a brain numbing, kind of like
Pink Floyd said, comfortably numb. You don't really understand it.
It's not normal. It doesn't happen in a normal, normal living.
But when you're put in some of these situations, let's
(35:29):
just call them paranormal or out of the norm, that's
what paranormal means, or whatever it may be. Something happens
where looking back, you're like, well, why didn't I do this?
I had my phone, why didn't I put it on record,
I had a gun, I didn't carry it out with me.
(35:50):
You just don't get it until it happens to you.
And I can picture myself keV out at dusk seeing
some large thing and now I identify what it appears
to be feathers, and now this thing really has my attention,
and then poof, it's gone.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You know you're thinking plane, glider feathers, not a glider
pool in the trees in the darkness, and it's over.
You know, you really don't have time to measure anything
other than you observe initially, and that's what you leave with,
you know.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Wow. Yeah, pretty creepy stuff, right.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, that is intense.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, la choosa?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Let me do you have you have a phone with you?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
A phone?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, let me look at something. I just want to
look at something for a second. I know how to
spell lachoosa. I want to see what it means. Let's see. Uh,
la choosa bird la choos a witch? Oh la choosa,
(37:01):
la la choosa, the owl witch.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, that's what it means, owlich.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Mexican barn owl witch, paranormal.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Wow, idiot.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean I knew the Brew ha because of
course kip Pola was Spanish.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Brewh just means witch, just a witch, the brewha, the brewh.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Uh. But the shape shifter, the crying babies.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You know, all of this not being able to kill
it with bullets.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Just the weeks of demonic active, demonic stuff. Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So, keV, what do we have in our listener mail
this year?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We got a couple of good things here, Teresa writes
in and this is interesting, she says, Uh, the episodes
listed on your website big for Terryanwoods dot com and
at August twenty twenty five, and Teresa says, maybe it's
my computer. But when I went out to your website
to see what new episodes were listed, the episodes and
(38:05):
at August and there's nothing listed for September and October.
I tried refreshing my bookmark page, but that didn't update it. Teresa. Well,
guess what, Teresa, You're right, Although the good news is
all of the episodes are out there on your favorite
listening location. And I don't know what the heck happened
to the website, but I looked at it when I
(38:26):
saw your letter, and all of the details that I
posted up there are indeed gone.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I will put that on my to do list as
soon as I got a breath to go and repost
everything back up there. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, who knows, man, Welcome to the world of computers.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But good catch, Teresa. But hopefully you didn't troubleshoot your
computer too long. Yeah, and folks, just before Kevin and
I launched to do this podcast, my computer was fine,
and then when I went to join up with Kevin,
there was no connection and I had to call Kevin
on the phone and tell him I had to do
a reboot. So welcome to the world of computers and smartphones,
(39:14):
no doubt about it, all right. And our next email
is a little lighter and lots of fun, and I'm
going to try to describe it to you and then
you can go and look for it on YouTube. But
Brian writes in. Brian didn't say where he's from, but
he writes in, and he attached a link to a
YouTube video that was a promotional iPhone sixteen commercial from Verizon,
(39:43):
from Verizon Wireless. So I think it's called YouTube video
Bigfoot iPhone sixteen pro. So I'm going to describe it
to you though, Okay. So picture there's this couple and
they're camping in the woods, so it's dark out, and
you know little picnic table that they're standing behind, and
you could see their tent behind him and woods behind that,
(40:06):
and you know, it's a guy and a girl. And
the guy picks up his iPhone and he's gonna take
a selfie of him and a girl he's with, right,
So he puts his arm around her and they're holding
the camera up in front of their face like we
do when we take a selfie. Takes the selfie and
then all of a sudden, you see this big rock
like hit the tree in front of them and bounce
(40:26):
off the tree, and they put the phone down on
the picnic table and they go walking forward like towards
towards the camera of the commercial, and they're looking at
this big rock that flew off of a tree, big boulder,
and then out of the woods behind them comes a
bigfoot and he comes walking out. He picks up the
(40:46):
iPhone and he looks at the picture and he makes
like a grimacy face because in the background of the
selfie they took is bigfoot. So he grabs the phone
and he's doing the new Apple editing software, so he
picks it up with his big myths and then touches
(41:07):
the image of himself in a picture and it disappears,
and then he puts it back down and goes back
into the woods like they accidentally took a picture of
him and he knew it, so he throws a big
boulder to distract him, and then comes out and uses
their phone to delete himself from the picture. I don't
know if my description made it, but it was pretty
(41:29):
darn funny. Thank you Brian for putting a smile on
our face. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
No, it's good stuff, man, And we like to hear
from the audience. You know, four too few people right
into us, am I right? keV?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I mean, well we got a good we get a
good amount of it.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Man. No, I'd like to I'd like to see more,
just even just to say hello. Yeah, folks, you don't
have to write to us because you've had a big
foot encounter, because those are slim few and far between.
But if you just want to say hello, tell us
you love the show and it's encouraging.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
We do love to hear from you. And you know,
sometimes we hear a fair amount. We hear from people
who believe it or not. Folks, we've helped them through
like a tough part of their life, you know, maybe
some mourning or some sickness or something like that, and
they were able to kind of hang out with Bill
and I and hopefully be a little entertained and maybe
(42:34):
have a laugh or two and once in a while
get the but Jesus scared out of them.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you something, Kip.
We got a couple of minutes, you know, my friend
Rich and Rich I know you're going to listen to
this how you doing. Bro is building a house out
in Idaho and one of the cameras he's set up
(43:01):
on the property out there is a three hundred and
sixty degree camera that has if it picks up anything,
it makes ten second videos of it. And he pays
a subscription monthly he can download you know, X amount
of ten second videos. If he goes over the limit,
it's like, you know, ten cents per each additional view.
(43:25):
So they're all ten second videos. So he gets an
alarm on his phone. This thing sends him notifications in
the state of Washington what it picks up an Idaho. Uh,
he gets an alarm. He looks at the video and
the video is only one second long. Of ten everything
(43:48):
is ten.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
This is one second, and it's a video of a
large owl sitting on a stump, staring directly at the.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
And there was nothing before showing it coming to the stump,
or nothing after it showing it leaving the stump. I
just thought of that when we're talking about Lachuosa Lachoosa,
it could be, you know, just why mysteriously with the
owl picture a one second video when everything else, you know,
(44:24):
cougar's deer, you know, bobcats. Everything else is ten seconds.
The appearance of the owl one second.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, it's wild crazy heck him, cool stuff. Man, Wow,
I love those cameras where you're catching different kinds of wildlife.
I've seen a bunch of pictures of like speaking of cougars,
of like the Tale of a Cougar, because they're so
stealthy they move out of the full frame before the
camera goes off.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Yeah, well, I told Rich, I said Rich, I fully
believe that you in that location. There have been sidings
around where he lives. One of them was documented on
the bfur row right in his let's call it a neighborhood.
But these people live far apart, I said Rich. I
(45:17):
guarantee you man, you were going to get some excellent
bigfoot footage. Just wait and see. So I cannot wait, keV,
I cannot wait. Well anyway, so, folks, another great podcast.
And remember if you should be wandering around the woods
(45:41):
near Mount Hood, Rainier, Mount Saint Helen's or Southern Texas,
perhaps you best remember one thing. My friends always carry
more gun than you think you're going to need. Sleep Tight.
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Speaker 4 (00:45):
Hey, keV, let's let's follow this trail over you. This
looks like there might be something waiting down there.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
All right, Hey, wait a minute, do.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
You hear that?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (00:56):
I thought it was just me.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
What the heck is that? What that is? Whoa? Do
you smell that too?
Speaker 4 (01:04):
That's unbelievable. They looked there, they those.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Branches are over over there. What the heck is that?
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Holy cow? Is that what I think it is? Look
at that day?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Oh my god, it's a freaking sasquatch.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
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And now, without any further ado, my brother and co
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Speaker 2 (02:29):
I'm doing all right.
Speaker 4 (02:30):
Bill.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
It's early here in the evening in North Carolina, but
we did set the clocks back, so it is dark.
Speaker 4 (02:38):
Yeah. Yeah, not my favorite time of year. I kind
of overlook it, you know, but yeah, God, this darkness
falling in and then like you look at the clock
at seven point thirty if you get the day off,
if you're like, jeez, you feel like it's eleven.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, it's six point thirty right now and it is
pitch dark.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
Yeah. Hey, by the way, the moon coming up tonight.
Is a beaver.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
I just saw it. It's beautiful. Is it full time?
Speaker 4 (03:07):
If it's not, it's almost.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, it looks like it's near Lefu. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
This moon they call the beaver moon beaver. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Keep naming them after all different things. Strawberry, like a
hundred different moons. Yeah, harvest moon, strawberry moon, beaver moon,
dog man moon. Oh, I could go for that.
Speaker 4 (03:33):
The dog man, well, you know, it's funny. I passed
on a dog man report for tonight. Oh yeah, I'm
not going to go retrieve it.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We were you afraid of it?
Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, it was a little on the shorter side, and
I wasn't going to pair up a couple of shorts tonight. Okay,
so you know, eventually everything's grist for the mill. I
got some really good to counsel tonight. Interesting crazy stuff.
But how you don't go, man, let's go, let's go. Well,
(04:10):
this sighting was brought to my attention by Deborah Reynard,
a resident of the state of Ohio. And this is
what Debrah had to say. Bill. As I had mentioned
to you when we first communicated with each other, I'm
not the one who believes that things just happen by
(04:31):
accident in my life. My eyes and ears are always
open to what people are saying and why they were
brought into my life on any given day. Sounds familiar.
The reason for my saying this will come into play shortly.
(04:52):
My brother Edward was involved regionally working for a large
computer related firm, performing and stalling computer upgrades in a
number of different locations in the States. This was in
the beginning days of the computer boom during the early eighties,
(05:12):
and it was because of this that he had rented
a property just east of Mount Hood near what I
would believe at the time was called the Welches or
Welches like the Great Jelly, but I may be wrong.
She says, it was a long time ago. By the way, folks,
(05:33):
that was spelled Welcches. So after you hear this account,
if you live around there and know anything about this
or anything else, give us a shout. So I had
made my way out to visit and spend some time
with Edward for two weeks during a summer vacation. And
(05:53):
when I arrived, he had a beautiful two story house
that was nestled in the woods, having a deck on
the second story. I think it was on my second
day being there, that the two of us had gone
down to a bar and grill on what I believe
was Highway East twenty six for a couple of beers
(06:14):
and burghers. While we were sitting there eating, two other
men sat down at the table next to us, and
we overheard them talking about Bigfoot. Edward and I looked
at each other with a wink and continued to listen
as we ate. These two fellas were talking about a
sighting of this creature that had happened in town the
(06:36):
previous night by a friend of theirs who was driving
down the very road we were on in this bar
and grill. At some point, I felt compelled to enter
the conversation, and while excusing my interruption, I introduced myself,
(06:56):
telling them that I was intrigued by what they were saying. Well,
these two fellas were more than happy to have us
join in the frame began to expose to us all
that day knew not only about what had just happened,
but the so called regular sightings of this creature in
the surrounding area. We left a grill that day all
(07:20):
in a buzz about what the men had said and
my conversation with Edward continued until the next day about
this supposed bigfoot monster. Some four days later, about four
o'clock in the morning, I was awakened from my sleep
having heard some type of sound. Now, the room I
(07:44):
was located in was on the first floor, with its
wall against the rear of the house, situated below this
second story deck that I told you about. As I
lay there in somewhat of a groggy state, wondering if
I actually had heard something or had just gotten up again,
(08:06):
a loud and resounding howl of some kind erupted, which
I knew with certainty was what had awakened me in
the first place. I got out of bed and looked
out the back window, peeking through the curtains, and I
was certain that I saw something leap into the air
(08:28):
out of the corner of my eye. Now I must
tell you that this deck, which was above the window
I was looking out of, had a dual floodlight shining
down on top of it, which washed its light out
into the yard behind the house as well as on
the deck. I walked up the stairs in the house
(08:52):
in the dark, my brother being sound asleep, and I
crept slowly into the kitchen, which had sliding door that
opened out onto the deck. These sliders had a draw
string set of thick drapes covering them that were closed,
and so I snuck up on them and slowly parted
(09:15):
them open with my hand just enough that I could
peek out onto the deck. As soon as I parted
these drapes a couple of inches, there laying on the
deck before my eyes was a large cougar laying there,
facing intently towards the woods in the back of the house.
(09:39):
I hadn't made so much as a peep with the
drapes being cracked open maybe two inches, with me concealed
behind them, and this cougar suddenly twisched his head, turned
to look at me, and immediately faced the woods again.
I let go of the drapes and immediately snuck back
(10:01):
in to wake up Edward in order to show him
this lion. After briefly explaining to him the howling and
seeing the cougar on the deck, the two of us
stealthily made our way up to the kitchen, once again
parting the drapes. Edward had now seen the cougar for himself,
(10:23):
and as we stepped back, he said to me whispering,
why is it on the deck and what is it
staring at? Hold on? We stepped into the living room,
and we were in total agreement that this thing should
(10:43):
have jumped when it saw me, and it didn't, which
to us meant that this cougar was afraid, if that
can be possible, of something much greater than ourselves. This
was odd enough in that this cat was an apex
predator in the area, and it was exhibiting behavior, in
(11:06):
my opinion, of being afraid, but of what. The two
of us now went back downstairs into the bedroom under
the deck, which is the place I had been sleeping.
We opened the blinds fully and could see the outline
of the cat above us on the deck, as well
as the edge of the woods behind the house, and
(11:28):
the cat still did not move. Looking out into the
woods now we made out not one but two sets
of what appeared to be glowing red eyes. I distinctly
remember seeing one set of them blink several times, and
(11:49):
the other set kind of going in and out of
view as they would if something had turned away from
the floodlight's illumination. We had our eyes fully fixated on
the trees, and seeing these red eyes, we were able
to make out the dark outlines of two very big figures.
(12:11):
One seemed to be ducking up and down within the bushes,
which occurred simultaneously with our being able or not able
to see its eyes, while the other were standing waist
deep in what appeared to be the bushes, swaying left
and right. I whispered to Edward, they're too bigfoot, and
(12:36):
that it was them that I heard howling. Apparently in hindsight,
the cat had jumped on the deck and come into
the light for safety, which meant to us that these
monsters could catch it. By the time we had seen
the set of eyes, we were doing nothing to hide ourselves.
(13:00):
We were certain that these creatures knew we were there looking.
We were fully exposed, somewhat illuminated, with the blinds or
curtains fully drawn open. Edward had a gun and went
to get it, not that we were planning to shoot anything,
but rather in case anything developed putting our lives in
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danger with these creatures or the cat. After several long
minutes of watching them, one of the bigfoot stepped out
of the brush and into the light of the backyard,
and when it did, the cougar leaped off the side
of the deck, running off to the left hand side
(13:46):
of the house. As soon as it had made its move,
the bigfoot in the yard started to run after it,
and this was quickly followed by the second creature leaping
out of the trees and following a hot pursuit Bill.
We couldn't believe what we were seeing, and we quickly
(14:08):
ran to the other side of the house, hoping to
see more action. When we got there, nothing more could
be seen, and where they had run off to was
an unknown to us, all of this having occurred just
days after meeting up with the two gentlemen in the grill.
When the sun arose, we felt safe and calm enough
(14:30):
to go outside. Edward brought his gun and we walked
into the yard where we had seen the one beast standing.
In the light. There were a number of impressions in
the soft grass and ground where it had been standing,
and we could see in the grass where they had
run off, which went across our yard, leading towards the road,
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and inevitably what must have been into the woods again.
The beast that had stepped out of the trees first
was enormous. Its head alone seemed to be two feet
tall from chin to crown, its body comprised of what
looked like muscle upon muscle covered in hair. I had
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never seen anything living that looked as strong as it
did when it broke into a run. With the second
one following, they had cleared the backyard into the sideyard
in the blink of an eye. I mean really fast.
They moved so fast that it was maybe five or
(15:40):
six extremely rapid leaps that they took to cover, say,
one hundred feet of yard space. Having seen the first
quite well and the second but briefly, I would say
that the two of them were somewhere between seven and
eight feet tall and something like three or four feet wide,
(16:04):
if not more. That very day we went back to
the grill, telling anyone who would listen about what had happened,
and the place was a buzz with our telling of
our tale. Everyone in the place started telling stories about
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their own encounters and those of others whom they knew.
The outpouring bill of testimonials was incredible, and this having
occurred in such a small place, it was something that
nobody will soon forget, and certainly not myself or Edward.
(16:45):
He moved from there some six months after this occurrence,
and to this day we can't get what we saw
out of our systems. What do you think of that?
Speaker 2 (16:57):
keV Wow and knew Apex predator intown near mount Hood.
Speaker 4 (17:03):
Huh Yeah, well, I mean it's no surprise that area
is rife with encounters, you know. And listen to these people,
you know, it reminds me of the old Finding Bigfoot
show when they used to do the town hall meetings. Yeah,
and they'd go into some little burger or beer joint
and they'd be, you know, forty to fifty people and
(17:25):
they're raising their hands about what they saw, you know,
and then they used to pick a couple that they
thought were legit, you know, and go make the show
out of them, you know.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Yeah, but I am surprised with the cougar hiding on
the deck. I hadn't heard anything like that before, because
those cougars are so stealthy, you'd think it could you know,
it would rather not hide in plain sight. Right.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah. Well, my thought on that is this, so you
would say a cougar probably outrun a Bigfoot in the woods,
But the fact of the matter was that they had
cited two creatures. Maybe just maybe some of the animals,
(18:18):
maybe a cougar being a little smarter than say, I
don't know, an elk or a deer, had experience or
if you can call it, knowledge of two of them
trying to hem them in. Yeah, so it it fled
the scene and wanted to see what would develop. You know, cats,
(18:41):
regular house cats. I've seen them, like see another predator
come in, or another cat moving around the edges of
the yard or something, and they will stay in place
and watch and watch and watch.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Oh, no doubt about it. I mean they or observant.
They're not going to make like a false move so spright.
Speaker 4 (19:04):
They just kind of sit still and watch. But according
to this lady, this thing reached a point when the
first bigfoot came out that I better get while the
gitting's good, and it leapt off of the deck and
took off running. So I don't think it was planning
(19:27):
on waiting for this thing to get any closer and
possibly cut off its chance to exit without getting into
a a tiff, you know. So really interesting and where
it went and you see after the fact, both of
them went after it. Yeah, the cougar didn't go after them,
(19:51):
They went after it. So I think that is evidential
proof that they were stalking the cougar, and the cougar
got sick of sneaking around and came right out and
jumped up on this deck, this platform for whatever reason
to sit still and look and watch and see what
could happen. And when that one moved, it was time
(20:14):
to get out of dodge. So but interesting, huh. It
all started with a conversation in the grill, then they
had an encounter, then they went back to the same joint,
and everybody was flipping out sharing bigfoot stories after they
started talking about it.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
You know, no, absolutely wild.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
So you're not going to hear a conversation like that
on Long Island. I guarantee you.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Different kind of apex predators.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Kevin, Wow, man, that's crazy. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
And by the way, folks, if you're new to the podcast,
we do bigfoot encounters. Kevin is about to do his
section called the Cryptids in the News and other Oddities,
And we used to do it in reverse order, and
we explained in the last podcast that we switched it
up for people coming to the podcast Bigfoot Terror in
(21:13):
the Woods and maybe wondering why we were talking about,
you know, UFOs or strange happenings around the planet instead
of Bigfoot related stories when the podcast begins. So we
kind of switched it.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Up a little bit, right, keV, Same content, different batting order.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
Yes, that's it. The Yankees could have used a different
batting order this most season. So what do you got
bro in our cryptids in the news and other oddities.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, we're going to get some creep on.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Oh oh, so maybe it's good you didn't do dog
Man tonight. Is it going to be enough creep that
I'm gonna have to take a shower? What am I done?
Speaker 2 (21:58):
There's some good creep going on. Perhaps it's good. It's
a dark night.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
Get dark, Yes, like Yogi Barra said, it gets dark
early around here.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
Oh god, we're gonna talk about a legendary creature called
La la Choosa.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
La la Choosa.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, you don't. You don't know La la Choosa.
Speaker 4 (22:33):
I don't, Thank God.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Well, La la Choosa is a witch owl from Mexico. Okay,
so it's a witch basically that can shape shift into
a giant owl to prey on people.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Oh oh, the freaking browning into an owl exactly?
Speaker 2 (23:03):
H le breue has just a general witch and La
Choose turns into an owl. Nice, all right, so you're ready. Yeah, yeah,
So the horror of this creature begins with her form.
They say it's a grotesque violation of the natural order.
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Ugh, excuse me, Yeah, a grotesque violation.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Yes, she's making me lose my voice. A creature. While
the details of the legend vary from region to region,
the core description remains chillingly consistent. It is, first and
foremost a massive owl. Some people say it stands four
(23:53):
to seven feet tall, with a staggering wingspan of fifteen
feet fifteen feet fifteen feet winkspan.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
It's like an air flight.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Yeah, But the most disturbing feature is not the size,
believe it or not, but the face of the creature.
Nearly every version of the tail of Encounters with the
Creatures says that it has the face of an old
haggard woman.
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Oh my god, can you imagine this thing cackling coming
at you, like dive bombing you out of.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
The giant owl flying overhead, you know, cackling and it
has the face of an old haggard woman. Oh my god, yeah, crazy.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
Can you picture this thing like coming at you out
of the darkness, maybe making some cackling sound or whatever,
and then as it gets within like twelve feet of you,
you see that face exactly.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
So they say, like, just as scary about it is
that when people see it, it's like a violation of
the natural order because you see, okay, this giant owl. Okay,
that could be a giant owl, but then it has
this old woman's face on it.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
Boy, that is grotesque. Man, I told you we were
going to get some creep on. How long have people
been sighting Lachoosa.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
I saw accounts going back to like nineteen forties. Well
that's a long time, but I'm not saying it doesn't
go back further than that.
Speaker 4 (25:36):
Yeah, this is like the first One's like there's a
record of exactly. I guess you're talking eighty five years
or eighty years.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Yeah, and you're going to see some familiar predatory tactics
here that La la Choosa uses. Okay, you know, her
hunting methods can be viewed as being as in insidious
as her ugly form, and her most notorious tactic is
(26:07):
the fact that she will mimic the sound of a
crying baby.
Speaker 4 (26:12):
Oh we've heard that before. I know, yeah, like all
of these shape shifting creeps, even Bigfoot, and of course
the Native Americans worn of the crying baby, even the
stick Indians, and all of these things use that crying baby.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
To lure exactly, you know, So Lalla Chusa weaponizes the
empathy people have, you know, basically taking you know, humans
best nature and turning it into a fatal vulnerability. So
those that venture out to find the source of this
(26:48):
cry are not met with a helpless child, but with
a silent, giant, swooping predator.
Speaker 4 (26:59):
And you know, regular owls, their wings are designed where
they really make no flapping noises, super quiet, the ultimate
and stealthy night predation.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I've told you, you know, we have a lot of
owls here in North Carolina, and they have flown over
me both in the early evening while the sun's still up,
like like right over my shoulder, over my head while
I'm walking in the woods, a couple of feet away,
and I had no idea this thing was coming until
it flew past my head and I saw it. Right,
it could have struck you when you would have I
(27:35):
never would have known it.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Nope, just boo hit you.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Yeah wild wow.
Speaker 4 (27:40):
So luchus get back to the luchros.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Yeah. Yeah, so the predatory nature is backed by a
host of supernatural abilities as well. Okay has immense physical
strength with numerous tails, insisting that she can carry away
full grown man in her talents. Holy cow. Yeah. Of
(28:07):
course it is a shapeshifting beast, so it can go
from a witch to an owl and back again. And
it's also said to have the power to control the
weather and can summon sudden, violent thunderstorms in order to
create confusion and cover for her attacks.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
Yeah wow, you know, keV. Yeah, such a hideous thing.
H You know, I always say that, like wit is
smoked his fire. I don't really, I can't. I can
almost not believe that such a thing has been fabricated
(28:51):
for such a long time and there's not some monoicum
of truth to what's being talked about.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Well, and we're going to get to it a little more,
but I think what we're talking about is demonic stuff. Yeah, yeah,
you know, not only is it a witch, but it's
you know, a witch, not a good witch, you know,
So please don't write letters, and all you good witches
out there and bad witches don't write letters either. We're
not hurting any witches in this episode.
Speaker 4 (29:20):
Yeah. And by the way, folks, you know, if you
listen to the podcast regularly, you know, my standing opinion
is that there are people out there, knowingly or unknowingly
that conjure stuff up out of the ether and they're
either looking for it or they brought it in unaware.
(29:41):
But if you send out invites, you're going to get
people coming to the party. Not necessarily people, but yeah,
you're going to get things coming to the party.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Yeah. So, and this is where we get into this
a little bit more. Bill. So, the legends state that
this creature cannot be hurt by bullets. And more than that,
there's a belief that if you try to shoot a
La Choosa and fail to kill it, a curse will
turn back on you and you will die shortly thereafter.
(30:18):
So this supernatural defense makes confronting La La Choose a
life or death gamble, with the odds stacked heavily in
her favor.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Oh boy boy, Yeah, that's trick and unbelievable.
Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah, KEVN.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
Where was the last report of Lachoosea come from all
in Mexico?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
No? No, well, different places. So we're going to talk
about one here in South Texas. Okay, so close close
to the border country. Yeah. So it's called the Robstown
Panic of nineteen seventy five. And in the mid nineteen
seventies a wave of fear swept through the small rural
towns of South Texas. It started in Robstown, just outside
(31:06):
of Corpus Christie, so on the east side of Southern Texas.
With a series of bizarre sidings, people walking along lonely
County roads at night reported being swooped at by a huge,
monstrous bird. Sounds a little familiar, doesn't it. Yes, something
else ye. The local newspaper, the Corpus Christi Caller Times,
(31:29):
began reporting on the claims. The descriptions were a little inconsistent.
Some said the creature was only two feet tall, while
others swore it was towering six feet. But one detail
electrified the community and connected the sidings directly to this folklore.
Witnesses all claimed the creature had the face of a human. Suddenly,
(31:56):
this was no longer a story about a strange animal.
It was about El Pajaro giagante de Robe, the giant
bird of Robstown. And everyone knew that was just another
name for La La Choosa, exciting spread to the nearby
(32:17):
towns Banquette and Alice, becoming a full blown wave of hysteria.
The story shows how a deeply embedded belief can erupt
into a public consciousness, fueled by media attention and the
anxieties of a close knick community. For a few months
in South Texas, the monster was terrifyingly real. How do
(32:44):
you like that?
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yeah? Kept, you know again, different names for what apparently
seems to be the same entity, you know. In one,
the description which was probably recorded many times times over,
of the owl with the haggard witch face on it. Yeah,
(33:06):
and perhaps in Southern Texas they hadn't got as good
a look at it by the time this report was
taken and just called it a jointing bird.
Speaker 2 (33:17):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Some of the people didn't see the face, right,
it's that night exactly. You got to be pretty close
to it, and you're not really looking at looking for
the face, right you. Maybe Now, after you listen to
this story and you go for a walk tonight and
something swoops down over you, you'll be like, wait a minute,
(33:37):
turn around, let me see your face. Yeah, yeah, witch owl? Yeah,
Oh my god, Now super creepy, I'll bella and again,
you know, sounds like something from the Demonic Realm. Reminds
me a little bit of Mothman.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
Yeah, no doubt about that, keV. You took the thought
right out of my mind. But you know, I can
understand when something happens to you initially that you're kind
of mesmerized watching this Johnny and flonging thing, just trying
to get an identification going of what you're looking at.
You know, that's just human nature. A wonder why didn't
(34:18):
you take the picture? Why didn't you do that? How
come we didn't do this?
Speaker 5 (34:21):
And that.
Speaker 4 (34:22):
You don't have any idea until you're put in one
of these situations how you're going to act or react.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
In the case like this Bill, it might take two seconds. Yeah,
you can't get your phone out and get the camera loaded,
even if you were taking a picture at a sporting
event in two seconds where you're not frightened. In this case,
you're terrified, like I'd drop my phone on the ground.
Speaker 4 (34:46):
Yeah, no, keV. I've been in situations, as I've discussed
many times on the podcast, where really, once you get
on the other side of it, you understand two things
that it's virtually impossible to break away from what's put
(35:06):
before you. Initially, sometimes there's almost like an out of
body or a numbing, a brain numbing, kind of like
Pink Floyd said, comfortably numb. You don't really understand it.
It's not normal. It doesn't happen in a normal, normal living.
But when you're put in some of these situations, let's
(35:29):
just call them paranormal or out of the norm, that's
what paranormal means, or whatever it may be. Something happens
where looking back, you're like, well, why didn't I do this?
I had my phone, why didn't I put it on record,
I had a gun, I didn't carry it out with me.
(35:50):
You just don't get it until it happens to you.
And I can picture myself keV out at dusk seeing
some large thing and now I identify what it appears
to be feathers, and now this thing really has my attention,
and then poof, it's gone.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Yep.
Speaker 4 (36:10):
You know you're thinking plane, glider feathers, not a glider
pool in the trees in the darkness, and it's over.
You know, you really don't have time to measure anything
other than you observe initially, and that's what you leave with,
you know.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Wow. Yeah, pretty creepy stuff, right.
Speaker 4 (36:31):
Yeah, that is intense.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Man, la choosa?
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Let me do you have you have a phone with you?
Speaker 2 (36:39):
A phone?
Speaker 4 (36:40):
Yeah, let me look at something. I just want to
look at something for a second. I know how to
spell lachoosa. I want to see what it means. Let's see. Uh,
la choosa bird la choos a witch? Oh la choosa,
(37:01):
la la choosa, the owl witch.
Speaker 2 (37:05):
Yeah, that's what it means, owlich.
Speaker 4 (37:07):
Mexican barn owl witch, paranormal.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
Wow, idiot.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
Yeah, I mean I knew the Brew ha because of
course kip Pola was Spanish.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:19):
Brewh just means witch, just a witch, the brewha, the brewh.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (37:24):
Uh. But the shape shifter, the crying babies.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
You know, all of this not being able to kill
it with bullets.
Speaker 4 (37:34):
Yeah, all of this stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Just the weeks of demonic active, demonic stuff. Wow.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
So, keV, what do we have in our listener mail
this year?
Speaker 2 (37:44):
We got a couple of good things here, Teresa writes
in and this is interesting, she says, Uh, the episodes
listed on your website big for Terryanwoods dot com and
at August twenty twenty five, and Teresa says, maybe it's
my computer. But when I went out to your website
to see what new episodes were listed, the episodes and
(38:05):
at August and there's nothing listed for September and October.
I tried refreshing my bookmark page, but that didn't update it. Teresa. Well,
guess what, Teresa, You're right, Although the good news is
all of the episodes are out there on your favorite
listening location. And I don't know what the heck happened
to the website, but I looked at it when I
(38:26):
saw your letter, and all of the details that I
posted up there are indeed gone.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (38:34):
I will put that on my to do list as
soon as I got a breath to go and repost
everything back up there. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 4 (38:43):
Yeah, who knows, man, Welcome to the world of computers.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
But good catch, Teresa. But hopefully you didn't troubleshoot your
computer too long. Yeah, and folks, just before Kevin and
I launched to do this podcast, my computer was fine,
and then when I went to join up with Kevin,
there was no connection and I had to call Kevin
on the phone and tell him I had to do
a reboot. So welcome to the world of computers and smartphones,
(39:14):
no doubt about it, all right. And our next email
is a little lighter and lots of fun, and I'm
going to try to describe it to you and then
you can go and look for it on YouTube. But
Brian writes in. Brian didn't say where he's from, but
he writes in, and he attached a link to a
YouTube video that was a promotional iPhone sixteen commercial from Verizon,
(39:43):
from Verizon Wireless. So I think it's called YouTube video
Bigfoot iPhone sixteen pro. So I'm going to describe it
to you though, Okay. So picture there's this couple and
they're camping in the woods, so it's dark out, and
you know little picnic table that they're standing behind, and
you could see their tent behind him and woods behind that,
(40:06):
and you know, it's a guy and a girl. And
the guy picks up his iPhone and he's gonna take
a selfie of him and a girl he's with, right,
So he puts his arm around her and they're holding
the camera up in front of their face like we
do when we take a selfie. Takes the selfie and
then all of a sudden, you see this big rock
like hit the tree in front of them and bounce
(40:26):
off the tree, and they put the phone down on
the picnic table and they go walking forward like towards
towards the camera of the commercial, and they're looking at
this big rock that flew off of a tree, big boulder,
and then out of the woods behind them comes a
bigfoot and he comes walking out. He picks up the
(40:46):
iPhone and he looks at the picture and he makes
like a grimacy face because in the background of the
selfie they took is bigfoot. So he grabs the phone
and he's doing the new Apple editing software, so he
picks it up with his big myths and then touches
(41:07):
the image of himself in a picture and it disappears,
and then he puts it back down and goes back
into the woods like they accidentally took a picture of
him and he knew it, so he throws a big
boulder to distract him, and then comes out and uses
their phone to delete himself from the picture. I don't
know if my description made it, but it was pretty
(41:29):
darn funny. Thank you Brian for putting a smile on
our face. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:37):
No, it's good stuff, man, And we like to hear
from the audience. You know, four too few people right
into us, am I right? keV?
Speaker 2 (41:47):
I mean, well we got a good we get a
good amount of it.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
Man. No, I'd like to I'd like to see more,
just even just to say hello. Yeah, folks, you don't
have to write to us because you've had a big
foot encounter, because those are slim few and far between.
But if you just want to say hello, tell us
you love the show and it's encouraging.
Speaker 2 (42:13):
We do love to hear from you. And you know,
sometimes we hear a fair amount. We hear from people
who believe it or not. Folks, we've helped them through
like a tough part of their life, you know, maybe
some mourning or some sickness or something like that, and
they were able to kind of hang out with Bill
and I and hopefully be a little entertained and maybe
(42:34):
have a laugh or two and once in a while
get the but Jesus scared out of them.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah, you know, I got to tell you something, Kip.
We got a couple of minutes, you know, my friend
Rich and Rich I know you're going to listen to
this how you doing. Bro is building a house out
in Idaho and one of the cameras he's set up
(43:01):
on the property out there is a three hundred and
sixty degree camera that has if it picks up anything,
it makes ten second videos of it. And he pays
a subscription monthly he can download you know, X amount
of ten second videos. If he goes over the limit,
it's like, you know, ten cents per each additional view.
(43:25):
So they're all ten second videos. So he gets an
alarm on his phone. This thing sends him notifications in
the state of Washington what it picks up an Idaho. Uh,
he gets an alarm. He looks at the video and
the video is only one second long. Of ten everything
(43:48):
is ten.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
This is one second, and it's a video of a
large owl sitting on a stump, staring directly at the.
Speaker 4 (44:01):
And there was nothing before showing it coming to the stump,
or nothing after it showing it leaving the stump. I
just thought of that when we're talking about Lachuosa Lachoosa,
it could be, you know, just why mysteriously with the
owl picture a one second video when everything else, you know,
(44:24):
cougar's deer, you know, bobcats. Everything else is ten seconds.
The appearance of the owl one second.
Speaker 2 (44:35):
Yeah, it's wild crazy heck him, cool stuff. Man, Wow,
I love those cameras where you're catching different kinds of wildlife.
I've seen a bunch of pictures of like speaking of cougars,
of like the Tale of a Cougar, because they're so
stealthy they move out of the full frame before the
camera goes off.
Speaker 4 (44:54):
Yeah, well, I told Rich, I said Rich, I fully
believe that you in that location. There have been sidings
around where he lives. One of them was documented on
the bfur row right in his let's call it a neighborhood.
But these people live far apart, I said Rich. I
(45:17):
guarantee you man, you were going to get some excellent
bigfoot footage. Just wait and see. So I cannot wait, keV,
I cannot wait. Well anyway, so, folks, another great podcast.
And remember if you should be wandering around the woods
(45:41):
near Mount Hood, Rainier, Mount Saint Helen's or Southern Texas,
perhaps you best remember one thing. My friends always carry
more gun than you think you're going to need. Sleep Tight.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
Hi, everybody, it's me Cinderella Acts. You are listening to
the Fringe Radio Network.
Speaker 3 (46:30):
I know I was gonna tell them, Hey, do you
have the app. It's the best way to listen to
the Fringe Radio network. It's safe and you don't have
to log in to use it, and it doesn't track
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(46:52):
top of the page. I know, slippers, we gotta keep
Speaker 4 (46:56):
Cleaning these chimneys.
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