Basil, Aaron and Rod Roundtable! Canary Cry and Millennial Mustard Seed - SPIRITWARS - Fringe Radio Network

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Yes, thank you, lord h.

Speaker 4 (03:03):
This is Michael Nasham's Spear Force Spirit Wars on the
Fringe Radio Network, and I am so thankful for this
opportunity to get to update you guys on the journeys
into the realms beyond.

Speaker 5 (03:19):
So for tonight's Spirit Wars broadcast, we're actually going to
introduce the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast Rod Smith from a
Millennial Mustardseed dot com. And I would like to share
this broadcast that has been bestowed upon us to acquire

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a new echelon of warriors here at the Fringe Radio
Network and the Spirit Force and faith bugs dot com
and all the things that we're doing. There are many
warriors out there recruiting millennials, and since Charlie Kirk's assassination,
I think we're going to see a bigger and bigger

(04:04):
influx and a bigger and bigger revival, and so the
more the merrier. I'd like to share this broadcast of
his and on my show on Spear Force and hopefully
Fringe Rdier Network will pick it up. I thank you Johnny,
I thank you Daniel for the teamwork there. It's the brotherhood,

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it's unity of the brethren. Jesus's last prayer shall be accomplished.
He said, I want all my children, all my people
to be one, a unity of the faith. So I'll
also say this my church emic dot Org Eagle Mountain Church,
I am an e member. I just drove to California

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and Florida and the East Coast. I spent time with Rod,
I spent time with Aaron, I spent time with Klaus.
We were on David Heavener's show, and then I flew
off to Texas and I got to be there. They
rolled out the red carpet for us, the Bashams at
the Kenneth Copeland Church. So I would like to say

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that the whole body is coming together. So if you're
an Internet Christian, that's like, I know enough because I
read the whole book of Enoch, Satan. Don't buckle at
the book at Enoch, he buckles at the word of God.
Send out that word of God, send out those angels
to do the work of God. And with that, I'll

(05:30):
leave you with this. So this is the latest from
the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast Millennial Mustardseed dot com. Rod
Smith support him. We just found out that he's on
the top one hundred list of podcasts for the Book
of Revelations, so that's very exciting. So check out all

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the links in the show to script all that stuff
that I should have edited out. And there's so much
to do when you're a spirit filled Christian.

Speaker 3 (06:02):
So get filled with the Holy Spirit right now today.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
Ask Jesus in your heart if you haven't already, and
be saved, and be filled with the Holy Spirit, and
go find a church and get baptized. All right, that's
enough for me. Michael Basham's signing out, handing the micover
to my dear brother Rod Smith. Millennium must rusied out
come and don't forget to get the app Fringe Radio Network.
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listen to the Fringe Radio Network. We are a blessed,
blessed network. You know, God is about to break through
all the trash and the garbage and the poverty and
the sickness. If you will receive that blessing, the Lord

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has already paid for all your healing and all your
freedom from financial garbage and trashy Babbylon this and juzzeb
all that receive it. I'm saying, the Bible has the answer.
So meanwhile, I want to really just say thank you
to Rod for carrying the torch for me, for just

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sharing these these episodes, these broadcasts with fringe Christians when
I've been navigating the Word of Faith movement personally. You
can listen to my rants about that, but back in
the back of my head is, oh yeah, there's still
info Wars, and there's still fringe Christians and Mystic Christians.

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And I really attribute Rod and the boys of the
fringe Christian community all the different podcasts. I honor you
for carrying on that torch because somebody's got to talk
about all of these so called conspiracies. They're actually true,
but with the intent of getting souls. It is so

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important that we keep that fire burning. After the recent
death of many innocent people, it is well, it's been
brought to my attention that a lot of the Christians
that have faith, that are believing for stuff, they're not
really well versed in the spiritual warfare side of things.

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And that's why I'd also like to point out that
we're about to initiate the Basham Ministries Don Basham Books
alongside Derek Prince material to provide material for families. You know,
my grandfather Don Bashim Donbashim dot com preached a lot

(08:40):
of sermons about husbands and wives caring for one another,
and the basics of receiving the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues,
the dynamics of receiving spiritual power when you call forth
through the word of God, the angelic protection, initiating God's

(09:04):
denimous power wherever you are. My grandfather wrote thirteen books
about the Holy Spirit, and he did it in a
very non emotional way, in kind of a textbook way
almost so anyway, just putting that out there, and that's
what I've been busy with anyway, Without further Ado Rod
Millennial Mustardseed dot com take it away. Bless you gold

(09:26):
speed brother, bless you listeners.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
Enjoy hallelujah. Hello folks, this is Princess.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.

Speaker 6 (09:37):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Don't forget to share with your friends.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
That's tough. We're in a very tough spot.

Speaker 7 (09:44):
I think that what we're doing right now is a
great benefit and virtue because it's an under round between
this whole corrupt informational system media system.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
We claim to believe in a God who spoke the
universe into existence and literally raised himself from the dead,
and yet we are not going to believe that anything
else exists in the spirit realm, even though his word
tells us that they do.

Speaker 5 (10:10):
Their bodies weren't permitted to go to sleep like humans do,
and they weren't permitted to go to heaven, so they
wander the earth.

Speaker 7 (10:19):
You know, I've seen the ass turn black to the
unknumb tongues being spoken.

Speaker 9 (10:25):
These giants would look way up and high the young raised.
The young man would high have been betrayed.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
They wait for one of these twelve quarters because I'm
walking down the back and they would jump on him and
kill him and dragging back in the village, and the
village feast on the body.

Speaker 10 (10:45):
Then people start to get weapons, they start to get armored,
they start to build cities, they start to fortify their cities.
Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
The battle, this war that we're at is not against
each other. It's against these socalities and these rulers and
these arcons in the high places.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
It's really worthwhile to read the biblers.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control
because we have to take every thought, Captain and resist fear.

Speaker 11 (11:17):
You're going to have a testimony that is a justice
case against the Kingdom of Darkness.

Speaker 10 (11:54):
Welcome back to the MMS. I am your part time
host Rod Smith, also and creator of the Millennial Mustard Seed.
And this is a banger roundtable episode with Basil Rosewater
from Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk. And
I'm also joined by my co host on this episode,
Aaron Christian Davis. This is a wild conversation. It's over

(12:18):
two hours long. We get the Basil rants like we
love me and Aaron go off from the deep end
with some topics and just literally have a blast on
this one. Basil gives us a flippy update which we
all love, and we introduce for the first time ever
a Flipper Update.

Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (12:37):
We talk about dolphins and an experience that me and
Aaron had in North Carolina at the beginning of this year,
as well as some of the supernatural things that dolphins
are capable of doing, and why it's illegal to watch
the birth of a dolphin all of a sudden, and
there's so much more than just that. We get into
the word literal. Do we take the scriptural literally? I

(12:59):
believe that we should take it literally until it cannot
be taken literally, and then we start looking at the
parabolic nature or metaphors or you know, the arcotypes, the whole.
There's two hundred different formats of speech in the Bible.
Each one of them is important. But honestly, God means
what he says, and he says what he means. Sometimes
he hides that meaning and is the duty of those

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of us with the longing desire to seek it out.
So this hangout time with Basil and with Aaron is
a really fascinating, relaxing conversation. To be honest with you,
I just highly encourage you guys to stick around for
the amazing episode set before you, and there's much more
content to come. Basil is going to become a bit

(13:43):
of a regular and I don't mean that on a
weekly basis, but we have some plans in the work
right now that are pretty fascinating. Now, Gon's is a
little bit harder to get locked in, but you should
be expecting to hear from the one and only Gon
Shimira in the near future here on the MMS as well.
Oh and let me do some maintenance here real quick.
You guys like share and subscribe. You can find details

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in the show notes.

Speaker 6 (14:07):
How to support us.

Speaker 10 (14:08):
You can plant a seed in time of need, pray
for us, donate, help this ministry to grow. My goal
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guys keep the lights on. You can also find a
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Speaker 6 (14:35):
Now.

Speaker 10 (14:35):
I talk about on this episode with Basil about how
much I'm encouraging my listeners to go leave Canary Cry
News Talk and Canary Cry Radio a five star rating
and review, and to write into them on Apple Podcasts,
whatever catch you're listening on, if you have the capabilities,
write them a message, Tell them I love what you
guys are doing. You guys are OG's in this space

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right And not only that, but we maybe you found
them through this broadcast, So mention the mms. And this
is kind of my way of saying, if all of
us came together and we started looking out for each
other and saying, leave my boy over here rating a review,
it does help boost that algorithm. It takes the whole
entire network of like minded individuals up higher. So not

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only am I asking that for myself. If you guys
have not left me that rating review, do so, and
also leave it for Canary Cry Radio and Canary crye
News Talk. Last, but not least, I play my newest
song called see Me Through on the end of this episode,
and I really.

Speaker 6 (15:37):
Hope you guys enjoy it.

Speaker 10 (15:41):
I think it's about time to jump into this episode.

Speaker 6 (15:45):
I'm ready. Are you guys ready?

Speaker 12 (15:48):
Let's you're listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast and
Razzle Dazzle. I'm your best buddy, Basil.

Speaker 10 (16:12):
Eternal best buddy, Basil. It is an honor to have
you back here on the MMS. And I'm joined by
my co host, Aaron Christian Davis. Aaron, what is going on, brother?

Speaker 13 (16:23):
I just want to say it's an honor to have
Basil back. We're really really looking forward to the Basil rants.
You know, I know that you guys love it. I
certainly do. And I just want to say to the listeners,
whatever information is exchanged, you are not crazy, You're.

Speaker 10 (16:41):
Not alone, and if the end of the world is tomorrow,
you need to be listening to Basle today.

Speaker 12 (16:47):
It's a good thing to remind people. I mean, honestly,
I only started telling people that they weren't crazy at
the beginning of every show, but really in the last
year or so. And I know, for me, look, I
think sometimes I maybe care a little bit too much
about the experience of the listener, and depending on the listener,
they might really disagree with me as far as that goes.

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But it's not often enough, in sort of fringy circles
or even really circles of believers who have a certain
set of interests, we'll say that people are reminding them,
encouraging them that just because they're not fitting into what
everybody else is talking about or what everybody else cares about.

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There's the implicit all around us, from church, from society,
from our normy friends whatever. The implication is always you're crazy.
Even if it's sort of tolerant, even if it's sort
of like, okay, sure, let's talk about the government or whatever,
the implication is you are crazy. So it's just good

(17:54):
to be reminded once in a while, even if once
or twice a week, you know, study can remind you
that you are indeed not crazy, no matter what they say,
and you can know it's true because it's coming from
a guy with giant googly eyes shouting on the internet.

Speaker 10 (18:11):
It's one hundred percent true. So I was looking and
there's this blind study that takes place, and then there's
all of this attempt right that I was reading about
with the agencies or you know, the Deep States, whatever
you want to call it, right there that are literally

(18:32):
trying to find a way to get people out of
what they're calling the conspiracy dwellings.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Right, So I'll read this here real quick.

Speaker 10 (18:40):
As we've heard time and time again, conspiracies are the
devil to untangle from people's identities and what they want
to believe about the world. Anyone trying to contest them
is seen as part of the deep state cover up.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Many invent.

Speaker 10 (18:56):
Interventions have been tried over the decades, offering counter arguments
or priming participants to engage in analytical thinking, but in
twenty twenty three, there was five studies that found the
most powerful methods for changing a conspiracy theorist belief don't work.
This year, however, in twenty twenty five, two studies conducted

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by psychologists at MIT and Cornell University suggests that artificial
intelligence presents sufficient counter factual evidence that believers are more
apt to change their minds. The first study publishes that
one thousand participants in this research program found that they've
reduced their beliefs in a chosen conspiracy on average by

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twenty percent after conversing with chat GPT four turbo, a
large language model built by OpenAI. And so what you're
saying is like, it's the body's duty to literally inculcate
to be the tip of the spear, right like especially
in fivefold ministry. Each person has this gift according to
God's design, and we have one mind. But here's the

(20:05):
one mind of AI working over time to try to
get people to think that they are crazy. So it's crazy.
It's awesome that you start out saying that, because I
mean little vulnerability on my end. I don't go through
this like frequently, but there's times over the years that
I'm like, I'm believing the wrong thing, not like about

(20:26):
my belief in God, but like some of the content.
Oh yeah, I publicly said I don't agree with everything
I've heard on my show, Like I had to make
some choices about how I was digesting material, and it
was a very personal, like internal thing.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
I don't know what your guys thoughts are on that.

Speaker 12 (20:40):
No, totally, this is great. Sorry to jump in, Aaron,
I of course want to. The reason I get excited
is because I was doing a show. I started doing
sort of more of a community show every week called
Canary Crack Clubhouse, where we don't do a lot of news,
we don't do a lot, we don't get really crazy.
We do check out, you know, a little mini documentary
from gun but it's mostly a call in sort of

(21:01):
fellowship show. I invite anybody to come check it out
on Thursdays. And there was a moment in yesterday's show
where one of the callers, you know, actually a great
caller calls in all the time. He's a you know,
a longtime supporter of the show. He came in and

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he mentioned, you know that there's some people in this
you know, some people in the space, some podcasts or
some stuff who more or less have kind of gone
a little bit out of left field, and you know,
he's finding it harder and harder to kind of stay
engaged with that those people's work or there. You get

(21:46):
the point, the show, the community, whatever. And while that
is a classic tale, and I do empathize with anybody,
I I think had an opportunity as someone who is
on the other side of the camera of a show
a few times a week here because there is a

(22:07):
lot there can be and honestly, it comes mostly from
people communicating with us. You know, there's a lot of
pressure to let's say, there's a lot of responsibility. There's
a lot of responsibility to I guess, be responsible with
the things we explore, the things we talk about at

(22:30):
the same time. For me, I give a lot of
grace to people, not even just podcasters or shows or whatever,
anybody who is publicly sifting through information and not just
presenting information that is available. I mean, back to the
study you're talking about. First of all, I challenge their

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premise that conspiracies are a part of somebody's identity. We
know the word conspiracy is sort of wielded as a
weapon in this case. You know, a group of people
conspiring is not part of my identity. So come on, now, AI,
of course having a special.

Speaker 9 (23:09):
Ability to uh.

Speaker 12 (23:11):
There is just a bit of a ruckus lately where
a group from Zurich University, uh secretly used AI bots
on a Reddit, uh whatever forum called change my Mind.

Speaker 9 (23:26):
And they, you know, the AI.

Speaker 12 (23:29):
Would pretend to be somebody related to a topic can
go in and change people's minds, and they did find. Now,
keep in mind, Reddit is a self selecting group of people,
mostly on the liberal side. They make a pretty uh
make it a habit to kick out anybody who doesn't,
you know, kind of align with the narrative that's being

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communicated there. Even on the change my Mind thread. You know,
the change my mind stuff is really on. You know,
you're anybody is only changing their minds on like approved
topics base. But the AI that go in there, and
they had some crazy number. I mean, I think it
was something like twenty eight percent success right over the

(24:10):
normal success rate it changing minds, So AI very good
at changing minds. You pair this with the twenty twelve
hullabaloo about Facebook, who secretly ran experiments on almost a
million people to focus on changing their emotions by only
feeding them negative or positive content. This is a very old,

(24:31):
you know, ten year old study, but you know this
is an illegal experimentation on people who didn't know that
it was going on. Now you match those things and
you pretty much have to remember and remind yourself and
when you wake up in the morning when you say
your prayers, to let God remind you that anything at

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all being fed to you by an algorithm is part
of sort of this social control mechanism to keep everybody
at least grouped tight enough either intellectually, but a lot
of times they don't even care about the details. It's
not really about the data, it's about emotionally, so it's
sort of this emotional hurting.

Speaker 9 (25:17):
Mechanism.

Speaker 12 (25:18):
Now, the problem with i'll use their phrase, people who
are aware of certain conspiracy theories, is it's not the
intellectual part. It's not the intellectual part of what they
know or what they don't know, because you know, we're
just regular people. We're peon's like, we don't have any

(25:41):
power to change anything. We don't really have any power
to put anybody in jail. If by some miracle, you know,
enough people band together and expose a conspiracy theory wide
enough that something is actually done, nobody is ever going
to get punished for anything. So they really don't actually
care about the information. What they do care about is

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the emotional herding of the herd to keep everybody generally
within a you know, a pin if you will, you know,
a certain pasture of emotion. And it's somewhere oscillating on
the range of you know, total depravity and hopelessness and

(26:24):
you know, ecstasy and utopia. They and they move it around,
and they can move it around it will. And so
when we're particularly online seeing things, whether it's just posts,
whether it's you know, whether it's it's various creators, you know,
long form is a little bit outside of this mechanism,

(26:44):
which is why I think long form will always save
the day. But at least on short form, you know,
you quite literally are just being sort of emotionally and
yet and therefore spiritually herded around. And much like a
sheep who's in a herd being moved around by the
cowboys or whatever, they don't really know or even realize

(27:05):
that they're moving in a direction. You know, they're just
hanging out, responding to the sheep next to them. If
their friends are spooked, they get spooked. They don't even
know why. If they stop in grace, they just stop
in grace. It could be the worst place to stop
in grace. So, and this is something we generally all
know on an intellectual basis, but more than anything, instead

(27:29):
of controlling the emotions of all of us, for those
who are mindful and skeptical of the prevailing narrative that
is being fed to us by the algorithm, it also
has a very negative effect of constantly putting you in

(27:51):
a position where you need to question your own thoughts,
your own emotions, you know.

Speaker 9 (28:00):
Exactly.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
Puts you in gaslighting, puts you.

Speaker 12 (28:03):
In a position where you're constantly doubting yourself, you know,
doubting your your thoughts, doubting your emotions, things like that.
And you know, that can be more than anything exhausting.
And I think that's the biggest threat to people who
are trying to stay engaged, trying to stay clear eyed,

(28:23):
and trying to you know, have some spiritual or emotional
autonomy in their lives. The threat isn't, you know, being
too negative or being too positive. The threat is getting exhausted.
And so for people who either make it a hobby
or a pattern or a profession, even to on air,

(28:49):
whether it's live or recorded or whatever, not just take
in information, not just give information, but at its best,
synthesizing information, taking in the information, sifting through it, and
putting it together to lead to if not new you know,

(29:11):
if not new information or new models or new narratives,
at least refining the you know, the most helpful models, narratives,
things like that. And so it is an exhausting job.
The questioning of your own beliefs and feelings is not
the negative part necessarily, but it's the exhaustion from that

(29:35):
that that can really get to you. And it gets
to a lot of people I mean, especially those who
do long form and do it quite regularly. As you know,
it's very impressive basically to anybody who's doing podcasts to
make it past fifty episodes, because that means you've gone
a year and you're probably you know, not very happy
or very satisfied with viewership or whatever. It's just kind

(29:58):
of part of the game. And so when I was
speaking on yesterday's Canaron Crime Clubhouse and saying, you know,
I really got a lot of got a lot of grace,
and I got a lot of empathy many people. I mean,
there's people who have been with us for going on
thirteen years now, over a decade. There's children who have

(30:21):
come of age, even been born, you know, growing up
engaging with our conversations, and goodness gracious, have a lot
of people gotten frustrated if I go to out a
left field on something. But the prayer is that we
have the freedom and we have the grace to work

(30:43):
through all sorts of new developing information on a daily basis,
whether it's current events, you know, scripture, you know, the
personal experience kind of colliding with the experiences of others
and trying to do it in a way that is
faithful and you know, keeps the most important stuff, the

(31:05):
most important stuff. But it is that it is the
very instinct to question the way you're feeling, the way
you're thinking, and where you've landed. That is the most
important part of what you're doing, both for stamina to
continue to be able to do it without getting totally
exhausted and going with the herd. And also, you know,

(31:29):
for those who are primarily consumers of that kind of
a display, I guess I don't like calling it content,
but you know what I mean, that kind of relationship,
that conversational relationship, it's a very important skill for them
as well, for the listeners and just any individuals, because

(31:51):
the point is to make you feel crazy, The point
is to make you question everything and not trust yourself.
But there is a special state amina and a special confidence,
especially if you are centering your sort of journey around
the truth of Christ and the sort of stable ship

(32:15):
that is I would, I think in our case Christian tradition,
but also the Bible itself is the word of God.
I can't imagine doing anything like this without that sort
of foundation. And most of all, I mean, if not
at least most of all, the fact that redemption, correction, revelation,

(32:40):
all these sorts of things are built into a believer's
life gives them them an incredible shield against what we
see happening. You know, if you want to get political
on the left or cancel culture or whatever these types
of things. It gives a particular resilience to somebody who
is sort of built their house on the rock in

(33:01):
that way. So I encourage myself and I encourage others.
You know, somebody can go pretty far out of left
field and make their way back and course correct and
you know, or synthesize a new reason why that information

(33:22):
or whatever is helpful. But I do understand, and I've
seen it happen to some of my favorite people too.
They go far out of left field and then they
just keep going. They're not even in the ballpark anymore.
And you know, there comes a time. There comes a
time where staying as centered as possible on home base

(33:42):
is pretty important for everybody. There's I can't believe I
just jumped right into a ramp immediately on the first question.
Sorry about that.

Speaker 13 (33:52):
That didn't take long for the listeners. This is exactly
what we teased, and you got it right. From the beginning.
God we got immediately got a reputation. No, we love it,
We absolutely love it. No, I definitely do. There's so
many things from like our previous interview that I've taken

(34:12):
and I've been intentional about moving your feet being one
of them. So that was one of my favorite basel rants.
But I think what you're referring to at the beginning
of that rant was, you know, there's this term shills,
you know, so like we obviously like operate on the internet, right,
and there's like you know, controlled opposition, and you know,

(34:34):
I'll probably get accused of it. Rod will probably get
accused of it. I'm sure you guys have been accused
of it, getting things wrong, credibility, right. I think I
know this situation that you're referring to, and you know what, like,
I think it's so important that like we just remain
faithful and continue to build that fellowship together and not

(34:55):
let all the distractions of the world because like we
are literally just presented so much mass messaging on a
daily basis. I mean, like the newsfeed never stops, does it.
I mean, like people forget about Hurricane Helen. We had
a conversation what six seven eight months ago.

Speaker 6 (35:13):
You know about that? Does anybody talk about it anymore? No?

Speaker 13 (35:15):
Right, it's move on to the next topic. Right, So
having that foundation and like being able to shift through
the information with a biblical lens, right, because the Bible
also says that there comes a point where we cannot
trust our own eyes. So we are led by the
Holy Spirit, right, Right, So there's certain power in certain terms.

(35:36):
And like we obviously live in a time where everybody's
super paranoid and skeptical, Like that person's a shill, that
person's a plant, you know, like that person, Like what
is real?

Speaker 6 (35:47):
Right? Who's who? Who do we trust? Well? I can
tell you this. What you can always trust is the.

Speaker 13 (35:54):
Word of God. Right, So prey on it, discern it.
Surround yourself with people that are like minded. You know,
it doesn't matter if you're left or right. You know,
like we can disagree. We all disagree, as Rod would say,
we all have a little something right, and we all
have something a little a little something wrong.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Right.

Speaker 13 (36:13):
And like when you combine forces and you come together,
you know, what are those uh what am I thinking
of the circles that then diagram? Right, you get one?
You got one? And then you meet in the middle
and then you kind of correct each other. Right, let's
go back to like the original standard.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
Let's do that. Let's have humility. Rod, what do you
think I just went on a Rantom.

Speaker 10 (36:36):
Yeah, it was a mini rant and it was just
so much came out with both of you.

Speaker 6 (36:42):
And like, what I love about.

Speaker 10 (36:44):
Listening to other men of God speak is, especially in
the freedom of the flow, is you know, AI has
its algorithms and it's trigger words and it's intention, but
the Holy Spirit has an intention. And when we make
ourselves subject to the way that He in and through us,
as the Bible says, you're sharpening, you're bearing each other's

(37:04):
burdens and so fulfilling the law. And you're also you know,
sparking each other to the jealousy of a good work.
So as I'm listening to both of you talk, what
I really start to think about is this is the
mind of Christ starting to come into the momentum of
I see you, I love you, I understand what you've
done right. Not only do I want to recognize you

(37:25):
for that, but I want to build alongside of you,
and I want what you're extrapolating from these ideas and
topics and processing through the Holy Spirit. I want to
be in sync with that. I want to harmonize with
this movement, with what God is echoing from heaven, and
like all the attacks are there. Like in the early days,
the show notes for me were, come, let's take a

(37:46):
journey through a million messages and signals that cause confusion
and chaos. Right, let's walk this thing out together. And
it's always been the scriptural basis that like multiple times
in episode, I have no issues with bouncing out of
the rabbitrary or the rhythm and going right back into
scripture because whenever the spirit gives me something, I'm like, man,
this is important. Doctor Chuck Missler, the late Doctor Chuck

(38:07):
Missle used to say, you know, if it's weird, if
it seems like something else is going on there, it's
important like keep layering it. And so man, I love
these roundtables or conversations. Really where we're at right now
on this episode, and I do want to say, you know,
I had a couple ideas that I wanted to do
for the month of May. Hopefully this episode airs and

(38:30):
you guys are hearing this in the month of May.
But I was calling it like, you know, support your
fellow podcast through five star rating. And I know I
did a call recently. We had sixteen written reviews and
ratings come through Apple Podcasts in like two weeks, and
I'm like, man, I'm humble, Like if you ask, maybe
you'll receive it.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
Right.

Speaker 10 (38:50):
So I'm literally making a call right now for all
the people in the MMS to go and leave a
five star rating review on Canary Cry Rating and Canary
Cry News Talk. And not only that, I want you
guys to write in right. I want you to write
something in there, because you're putting a stamp of approval
like here is this, you know, kind of gate when

(39:10):
people find this content as Christianity starts to swell and
there's a bunch of shills everywhere, you know, drop a line, right,
I think, Basil, what's funny is like a couple of
years ago, I actually commented or left you guys a
review and said, hey, this is Rod from MMS. You
and gons are like, oh gez in my mind, like

(39:33):
you guys helped me through so much, and you responded
to that, and that's actually my first line of communication
with you. But the reason I wanted to do this
in the month of May is because you know, really
I think that the new year starts in April. I'm
not going to get into qualifying those details right now
in this conversation, but you know, we're coming into this
birthing season where things are changing, right, and we have

(39:55):
so many seasons where allotted here on this earth. And
I was looking at it, going, Man, if I want
to love people, I don't only want to do it,
you know, secretly or just publicly. I want to have
other people recognize that love too. I want that ripple
effect to go out and create that standard of Man,
you know what, let's show Let's show these guys some love.

(40:15):
So I mean, I'm going to pass it back to
you just with like the idea of whatever Aaron said
and I said, And then I do have some questions.

Speaker 6 (40:22):
I think it would be cool.

Speaker 10 (40:23):
If we shot each other some questions being this is
kind of more of a conversation based episode.

Speaker 9 (40:28):
Sounds like a fun time.

Speaker 12 (40:29):
Yeah, thank you so much for you know, making that
call out for ratings and reviews. It's kind of funny.
Ratings and reviews are a little bit of like an
old school relic of early Internet and early you know,
podcasts and content. A lot of people don't think about
doing ratings and reviews, and with our experience, if you
don't ask, it doesn't happen. You got to ask people

(40:51):
to do it. They can be the biggest fan in
the world and most of them are not going to
naturally do that, but just to confirm what you're saying,
it actually helps a ton. It's a huge deal, not
just for Algos and AI and you know, navigating the
machine that unfortunately were sort of forced to deal with,

(41:12):
but also you got to remember, I mean, real people
read those reviews, and your review could independently on its own,
be responsible for somebody saying okay, even if they're not,
you know, like yay, let's go do that, because if
they want to listen to the show, they'll listen to
the show. But you could independently be responsible for someone

(41:35):
who is seeking, for someone who is hurting, for someone
who is looking for a community, someone out there who
wants who wants to be told, who needs to be
told that they're not crazy, and your individual review could
be the one. Especially, you know, because if you're new
and you write a new review goes to the top
of the list. It's the first one that people are

(41:56):
going to read when they're going through looking at shows.
I mean, you could independently personally be responsible for like
changing somebody's life and letting them know that they're not
crazy and that they're not alone, and that there's other
people you know who are thinking about similar things. I mean,
it's one of those things that you know is a

(42:16):
little bit too big sometimes to think about. But in
a world that is so noisy and has so many influences, ads,
corporate interests, government propaganda, everything, every moment of our day
is packed with someone trying to communicate something to us,

(42:38):
it's kind of hard to imagine that just leaving a
rating and review would have any effect. But you know,
we've as I'm sure you have, We've had people say,
my gosh, you guys saved my life or I gave
my life to Christ. And the extension of that is
I wouldn't have found your show if that one person
didn't leave a review that was super meaningful. So thank
you for that. I encourage everybody who want or listens

(43:00):
to this just to know that on our side of
the camera here, getting those ratings and reviews super important.
On sort of a broad eternal scale. But also I mean,
we read everyone and it's nice. It makes us feel good,
so that's also good to refer back to some of
the things. What kept repeating in my mind for what

(43:21):
you were both saying is going back to that word synthesis,
because information repetition is one thing and is not inherently bad.
But synthesis happens in community, Synthesis happens in multiplicity, you know, synthesis.
Not to get to wo woo on it, but I

(43:41):
mean we have a triune god, We have a Godhead
who is synthesized in three independent, personal but entirely united parts.
And speaking as someone who started their career in podcast
doing interviews primarily meaning synthesizing information with other people coming

(44:05):
on the show to then in you know, about twenty twenty,
primarily doing shows without guests, but looking for synthesis in
other ways, you know, caner and crime news talk. Of course,
we do the news, and it just happens to be
because it is my vocation. When I meet somebody in

(44:27):
real life and they realize, oh my gosh, you know
way more about what's going on in the world than
I do. Where do you get your news, they say,
and I say, well, not from cable television. And they'll say, well,
I watched The and M, but I also watch Fox,
so I get all the different viewpoints.

Speaker 9 (44:46):
I'm like yeah, And.

Speaker 12 (44:49):
They they show literal exhaustion when they ask where do
you get your news?

Speaker 9 (44:55):
And I say, you know, I.

Speaker 12 (44:56):
Read about eighty articles a week from all different things, primarily,
you know, I would say about fifty percent comes from
the mainstream news. The other fifty percent comes from the
various alternative and you know, microsources all the way down
to individual citizen reporters, stuff like that. And it hurts

(45:20):
the brain of someone who and I don't. I love
my boomers.

Speaker 9 (45:25):
I love them.

Speaker 12 (45:26):
I would not be anywhere without the boomers in my life,
and the boomers that you know support my work. I
love them. But it is a particular characteristic of the
Boomer generation who came from a world where not only
could the news be trusted a little bit more, but
there was just no other option. And so it's still

(45:49):
very much this worldview of like, if it's not on TV,
then it isn't true. But if I watch Fox and CNN,
then I know everything there is to know. Of course,
without without the knowledge that they're controlled by the same
people and you know, under the same corporate interests and
et cetera, et cetera. You realize that that's there's really

(46:10):
no difference in getting it from Fox or CNN without
the exception of entertainment value. They all have just different
entertainment values, almost different kinds of humor. And I use
humor sort of metaphorically. There where to really start building

(46:31):
an understanding of the world that at the very least
isn't indirect control of a singular establishment. It's a matter
of going as far and wide. It doesn't obviously mean
that you believe everything you read, and there's no there's
never one article that gives you the full truth. But

(46:53):
once you get you know, four or five articles in
on a particular current event, then you're able to synthesize
something approximating a useful, true, objective telling of the story,
just even simply from what isn't what is omitted in

(47:15):
certain outlets. You know, sometimes the lies don't happen in
outright lies. A lot of times they do, but other
times the lies happen in omission or anonymous sources or
blah blah blah, blah blah. So in the same way,
that's just a personal example of mine to say. In
the same way, that is how synthesis is so important

(47:37):
when it comes to everything, and especially in our walk,
in the context of fellowship with other believers, prayer with
other believers, a countless number of inputs from you know,
people you trust, people you know are good actors, people
who you're led to believe, you know have the right

(48:00):
interests in mind, those who are really after what God wants,
God's truth, and you get enough of those coming in
and interacting with each other because again go back to
the Trinity. It's not that God, the Father, God the Son,
and the Holy Spirit exists as separate entities a million
miles away and don't talk to each other. You know,

(48:21):
the beauty and the mystery of the Trinity is that
they're in connection. They are synthesizing with each other all
the time. I don't do anything unless the Father tells
me to, you know, that sort of thing, This Holy
Spirit coming in.

Speaker 9 (48:37):
As a helper.

Speaker 12 (48:38):
It's this synthesizing for our puny, little human brains, which
are beautiful and amazing. You know, it goes down to
the very cellular way that our brain works. Our brain
isn't one big block of knowledge. It is a web
of neurons that are firing in sort of an endlessly

(48:59):
mysterious and infinitely complex ways. You know, when I say
the word synthesis, it includes neurons that are firing from
you know, eighth grade biology class. Well, why would eighth
grade biology class?

Speaker 9 (49:15):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (49:15):
It's this sort of endlessly mysterious, infinite collection of different
data points playing together to synthesize any individual thought. And
what I love about what you're doing at MMS is
that exact thing.

Speaker 9 (49:33):
Bringing in.

Speaker 12 (49:36):
Such a wide arrangement of people and perspectives at the
same time. It's really not about to any individual. It's
really not about taking the word of any one of
the individual people. You know here people watching this with
three of us. It's not really about well, Basil said this,

(49:57):
so that's great. It's oh well, Basil responded to Rod,
and then Rod was piggybacking off of Aaron, which led
back to Basle getting obsessed with the word synthesis and
oh my gosh, it changed my life, you know, And
that's that's how it all should should work, which is
directly opposite of how the adversary has our timelines set up.

(50:18):
Our timelines are set up to feed us one version
of the narrative, whatever version that is they're using to
control us. And you'll notice that there's not a ton
of opportunity for synthesis of disparate information because we've been told, hey,
if you hear this factor this idea enough times, that

(50:40):
must be true. So our timelines feed us the same
message over and over and over and over, just to
keep banging at home. So you know, this is really,
I mean, the way God intended it is to have. Well,
you might even call it a fellowship of people coming
in with their ideas.

Speaker 6 (51:01):
That was so good.

Speaker 9 (51:04):
I forgot if you asked the.

Speaker 10 (51:05):
Question, what I think, level up, level up? Right, It's like,
I think it would be like super cool, just the
way that this is going if we ask each other questions, okay,
and and because we were ripping on each other and
going in the direction where we're eventually going to need
to be like what's your take and and how do

(51:28):
we get to that next you know, hammering in the
idea to get to the next synthesis right, plug in
the next topic with that whatever the spirit gives as
in the trajectory man Basil. You're saying so much that's
that's important and valuable to this over overview of all
of it. You know, I did a couple I'm on

(51:48):
the Days of Noah podcast. Shout out to Pete and
Luke over there. Quite often we're constant collaborators, and we
did a deconstruction and a reconstruction of like modern Christianity.
And it's this idea of the ecclesa, right, the word
for church, the ecclasia, however you want to pronounce it,

(52:08):
like when we get together. There's autocorrect features in synthesizing information, right,
because if I'm coming like way too aggressively and strong,
like no, aliens are real and aliens are not biblical characters.
The Bible is fraud. If you start to even shift
into those like highlighted or you know, your overtones are

(52:29):
more in agreement with not the word of God and
what your mind is doing with what God told you
and it's not stored up in your art, but you're
starting to go astray. An autocorrect feature in the group
of people that have their heart and their mind penned
on Christ. Easy to identify like we do home church,
we do meetups like you know, we're doing God and
guns together. Aaron was up just a couple of weeks
ago for that here in PA. Like we're doing stuff

(52:52):
and I'm not saying that that gets contested in that group,
but if an outsider came in slinging some crazy information
like we're fella shipping in the spirit in deep places
where like right away, we'd be like yo, like something's off,
Like test the spirit is kind of what I'm getting
at here. And so I think it's fascinating that we're

(53:14):
being birthed into the very concept of God's original design
through the means of what was created to destroy us.
Right this this never ending media, this never ending algorithm,
this TikTok brain this, you know, they say, oh, you
got add And it's like I've been told my whole
life how that's been highlighted as a boundary for me

(53:35):
that I can't step over or things that I can't
do because of that. But I've seen God work in
the midst of what they call an ailment to actually
supersede and take me into places where the Kingdom is
now opening up the narrow road for me to stay on,
and I'm like, my God, here we are. We've arrived, right,
Like God, you are on the throne and you're doing
only what it is you can do. Because the systematic desensitization,

(53:57):
how they've tried to shut me down and label me
and then pro me it's failing, and it's failing predominantly
in settings where I'm with other people who understand this critique.
It applaud it, correct it, all of that fun stuff, right,
remind sharp, and encourage it. So, I mean, that's my

(54:17):
I don't that's my rent. Right, Let's start questioning each other, like,
let's let's cross question some ideas here about what where
this is all taking us conversation wise and so much more.

Speaker 12 (54:31):
Yeah, yeah, I mean I love that the Holy Spirit
is a great autocorrect for sure, and the fact that
the Holy Spirit is moving in you know, every conversation
and every believer and is present.

Speaker 6 (54:44):
You know.

Speaker 12 (54:44):
It's kind of like Clippy. Everybody's got Clippy automatically installed
on their on their whatever it's called word, Microsoft word
or whatever. The Yeah, the autocorrect feature. It's funny. I
think about it that way. I hadn't I hadn't thought
about it that way, but it both of those things
you're talking about are true. One thing that I find, honestly,

(55:08):
I mean, just really irritating most things. I can try
to find lots of words, but usually the word is
just irritated when it goes back to, you know, the
conspiracy believers, the identity of the conspiracy theorists. You know,
it's usually presented as in like they're a hive mind
who one of them will tell a lie and then

(55:31):
they all believe the lie.

Speaker 9 (55:33):
It's so creepy.

Speaker 12 (55:34):
It's like, bro, you don't know what you're talking about.
The weirdo community is constantly auto correcting each other, constantly
calling each other shills, constantly trying to you know, filter.

Speaker 9 (55:48):
Each other out.

Speaker 12 (55:49):
And while it could be a negative experience and you know,
not very fun sometimes and indeed add to the exhaustion,
it's certainly better than a mainstream you know, the news
outlet competing with their enemy mainstream news outlet, and yet
they're both reporting the same lie for the same reasons.

(56:10):
You know that the funniest thing to watch now is
the the mainstream media's obsession with we were lied to
about Joe Biden's sharpness. We were lied to about this
Jake Tapper writing a whole book, when you know, they
were the ones saying he's sharper than attack. I saw
him personally, I talked to him. He's great, He's great.

(56:31):
And now they're all coming out being like, oh, we
were deceived. You know why you were deceived just because
you don't have the Holy Spirit coming in and telling
you to, you know, tell the truth and following the
New God the state. But yeah, especially when it comes
to believers, it is a very special and I think

(56:55):
whatever is happening in the world has made it this
way a little bit more. I would say if you
go five ten years back, that the enmity behind or
the enmity in some relationships between various Christians online, you know,
having different beliefs about the tribulation post trib pre wrap

(57:18):
blah blah blah, the whole thing. You know, that used
to really split up believers in the space. Uh. And
while it's still a disagreement that exists, what I'm finding
is that it is splitting up the body much less lately,
not that it doesn't happen. And maybe it's just in
my you know, in my circles or my experience, but

(57:40):
there's some movement. I mean, there's many movements going on
that that is no it seems like that piece of
sabotage from the adverse area is no longer as effective
as it once was, and I think, you know, the
Holy Spirit has a lot to do with them.

Speaker 6 (57:57):
Absolutely.

Speaker 13 (57:59):
I'm actually a walking testament of that. I've been listening
to Canary Cry News talking Canary Cry Radio for for years,
probably about four or five years, and then that led
me to actually listen to Rod with Millennial Mustard Seed
probably about two and a half years ago. And it's
funny that you just mentioned that. The reason why I'm

(58:22):
even here right now talking to the people that I
listened to even today. That's where I get my news.

Speaker 6 (58:32):
Literally.

Speaker 13 (58:33):
I wrote an email to Rod just asking about a
previous episode that he had on that very topic basil,
you know, which was like you know, pre tribulation, mid
trib post trib theology, right and like how you know
all these ideologies clash and like people used to fight
about it. But I mean it was obviously, you know,

(58:54):
such a topic that like it's really hard to email that.
So he actually gave me his number and then like
we're like best friends. I got my best buddy, Basil Rod.
But there is a scripture that actually I was led
to as you guys were speaking. It's Proverbs thirteen twenty

(59:15):
and I can attest to this as well, and it
says whoever walks with the wise becomes wise, but the
companion of fools will suffer harm. So we live in
a world where obviously there's a difference between mainstream media,
you know, alternative media and independent media. Basil, you know,
you guys over Canary Kray have touched on this quite

(59:36):
a bit, and I think it's super important to like,
you know, surround yourself with the right people and the
right information and not just trusting in Basil or you know,
Gons or Rod or Aaron or anybody, but like really
taking that time to turning towards the word and asking

(59:58):
and praying, you know, for discernment, because the Holy Spirit
will give you that. I mean, I've been led in
certain ways. I've Rod, I've gotten things wrong, I've gotten
things right. I've been down down deep rabbit trails right
where it led me to kind of like this, you know,
this movement that we've seen on the right. You know,

(01:00:19):
I'm not really going to give it any power or
authority or anything like that. But you know, we'll just
kind of trust in the Holy Spirit. But I just
want to say that, like, you know, certain things take time,
be intentional. You know, surround yourself with the right people.
Surround yourself with the word, dive into the word, you know,

(01:00:40):
don't You're not going to get truth in thirty seconds.
It's not going to happen, you know, And like that's
the age that we live in. You know, Basil with
himself says he reads eighty news articles a week. That's
a lot. I mean, I would challenge any of the listeners.
I mean, how many articles do you actually read through
you know, different sources, right and doing that compare and contrast,

(01:01:04):
you know that ven diagram, Like okay, let's meet somewhere
in the middle.

Speaker 12 (01:01:07):
Right, totally, No, absolutely, I mean that's that's the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:12):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:01:13):
I love what you're saying about surrounding yourself with the
right people. And you know, it's funny because in my
life as well, it's it's a little bit. I mean,
we all kind of need to ask our question, like
how do we.

Speaker 9 (01:01:24):
Know who's the right people?

Speaker 12 (01:01:25):
Because we can you know, we can set up, you know,
our pros and cons list or put together you know,
a checklist of what the characteristics of the kind of
people we want to surround ourselves with, and that is
great and recommend everybody do that.

Speaker 6 (01:01:42):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:01:42):
Sometimes you know, sometimes you don't know. Now we all
know that sometimes people don't end up being who we
thought they were, or delivering on characteristics they had led
us to believe were part of their deal, or simply
people just change, you know, things change like that, And
that again is where the fellowship comes in. The autocorrect

(01:02:04):
is in the data points. You know, let's say you
got ten friends or ten people you're fellowshipping with. If
one of them's, you know, a snake in the grass,
it might be hard to tell. It often is hard
to tell. With our direct relationship with snakes in the grass,

(01:02:25):
you know, we can find all sorts of reasons to,
you know, do things like give them grace or simply
just not pay attention to the red flags, et cetera,
et cetera. But the autocorrect again comes in. The fellowship
comes in the synthesis where you have other people around
you who can you know, Again, there's always a fine

(01:02:47):
line between gossip and blah blah blah. You know that
the bad ways that this can reveal itself. But oftentimes
the snakes in the grass are the gossips, you know,
are the dividers things like that. But yeah, this again,
really this concept of surrounding yourself, seeking out, prioritizing fellowship

(01:03:12):
and synthesis with others, and right there built into the
mechanism is this like fail safe autocorrect thing in all
sorts of different ways. And again, yeah, like I'll say,
all day, all all day, all long. What when it
comes to getting the news, you know, you spread it out,
You get it from everywhere, like literally everywhere, not just

(01:03:34):
different cable news channels. When you are you know, I
mean one big thing even down to culture war issues,
and I don't want to take it too far away
from faith, but I'll wrap it back around. But because
culture war issues are such a big part of online
life for people, especially people who make a habit of
listening to podcasts and watching shows and stuff like that,

(01:03:58):
it's almost you can't escape from the culture war things.
And that's one of the really dangerous categories where if
you're really just paying attention to one person, one influencer,
one podcaster, one teacher, whatever. You're really just getting a

(01:04:19):
direct download of their ideas about a culture war. And
you've got to remember that's maybe the most dangerous as
far as I don't know, so the most dangerous when
it comes to well, I'll say this, the algorithms. They
latch onto your culture war influences right away, and they

(01:04:43):
will feed you that till the cows come home. And
by the time you notice that that's all you're seeing,
it's too late. You know, there's and I mean specifically
culture war stuff, not necessarily like fact based stuff, you know,
currently facts of a current event or something. You know,
how to treat people, how to think about people, And boy,

(01:05:04):
oh boy, if your culture war diet is not choc
a block full of loving, gracious, merciful believers, you're gonna
get weaponized immediately. You turn into a total tool of
the culture war.

Speaker 9 (01:05:20):
And it's dangerous.

Speaker 12 (01:05:21):
You know, it's a really it's something that again I
go back every day every time I open my phone,
I go, okay, let's see what the you know, mind
control system has me going down today, And just being
aware of it is a huge thing. But also seeking
out various sources, like we keep saying, but also seeking

(01:05:45):
out various sorts of fellowship, you know, and if a
bad apple gets in there, you just got to trust
a the Holy Spirit is gonna be speaking to you
about it and be you know, the Holy Spirit might
use others in your fellowship. It's more important than ever because,
like you said, the world is changing drastically.

Speaker 9 (01:06:06):
We are. Things are moving so fast.

Speaker 12 (01:06:09):
And this is kind of cliche to say, especially seeing
as the last ten years have felt like this, but
right now we have reached some sort of peak frenzy
where things are moving so fast. Are are We are
on purpose. We're living in a system that is designed
to keep our feet from being firmly planted in anything.

(01:06:32):
And the only way we're going to make it to
next year. And I'm you know, I'm serious. I tell
people like I'm literally saying, in the next six months,
there's going to be a shift in the world, you know,
at the very let's say, at least in three during
sixty five days, the world is going to look entirely different.
And if you're not firmly rooted and not rooted with

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others who are rooted around you like a grove of trees.
You know, it's not just the roots going in the
ground that protects the tree from the storm, but it's
the roots of all the trees coming together, growing together,
uh and holding on tight so that not even a
you know, hurricane can come blast them out. Am I

(01:07:18):
supposed to think of a question now for you guys?
That's probably what I should have been thinking about the
whole time.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
We're doing great.

Speaker 13 (01:07:26):
I actually would like to introduce a new segments, an
old segment and a new segment. So Basil, before you
think of another question, I would love for you to
provide a Flippy update. And then following that, I would
love Rod to provide the very first Flipper update.

Speaker 9 (01:07:48):
Oh Flipper Flipper.

Speaker 12 (01:07:51):
That sounds fine, you know I always love I don't
know if it's actually about robots. Oh it is about dolphins,
isn't it? Is that the lever update? Okay, I am
what am I doing? I am very casually and naturally
opening up my document. Here we'll see if the internet,

(01:08:16):
Oh oh what you got something going on?

Speaker 6 (01:08:19):
There?

Speaker 9 (01:08:19):
Did my audio cut out?

Speaker 12 (01:08:21):
Can you guys hear me?

Speaker 6 (01:08:22):
Come on Internet? We prayed over you.

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
Oh there we go.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Oh gosh, we hear you.

Speaker 12 (01:08:30):
Okay, it's it is getting a little laggy over here.
Listeners of Canary Cry will be intimately aware that there
are certain web pages that if I open them, it
just collapses the whole system over here. So I'm probably
gonna lag for just a moment.

Speaker 6 (01:08:48):
You totally.

Speaker 10 (01:08:49):
I'll fill in for about thirty seconds. How epic the
Flippy updates have been like over the years. I was
in the factory twenty eight, nineteen, twenty twenty one all
the way to like twenty three almost, and I was
in a pretty interesting role. But I was able to
have like one ear button, and like, when I look back,

(01:09:11):
a lot of a lot of the stuff I remember
old contact wise, because basil gons have so much is
these Flippy updates and you know, the innocence of flipping
a burger now to you know, these stationary devices taking
over the world and flirting with our women. I mean,
it's the flirt line up.

Speaker 6 (01:09:32):
I love it.

Speaker 12 (01:09:33):
Yeah, you know, I mean that is It's one of
those things we actually now, I haven't had a lot
of a lot of people complain about this, so I
took that as a sign. But we haven't been doing
Flippy updates on every show like we used to, and
part of that is the breadth of news about robots.

(01:09:59):
First of all, well, it turns out the Flippy update
did its job, which is people are pretty familiar now
with just how truly close we are to the full
on you know, robot takeover and not just taking over
the world, but taking over our jobs, flirting with our
spouses and you know, and doctrinating our children. It's almost

(01:10:23):
like it, you know, the Flippy update kind of lost
its its novelty, but at the same time, you know,
it's gone more mainstream than ever. And of course a
good example of this is the Elon's Optimist robots, you
know optimists, the kind of I mean in true Elon fashion.

(01:10:44):
You know, it's sleek, it's sexy. It's like, that's that's
what people wanted the robots to be. Some of these
robots that are really goofy looking. But he's got his
all figured out. It's he claims that they'll be rolling
out one hundred thousand of them by the end of
this year, which you know, he almost never keeps his
timing promises, but it still means it's close. And when

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it comes to the various parts of the Flippy Update intro.
You know they're going to be taking our jobs. Well,
this is obvious. Everybody's on this flirting with our spouses.
I mean the amount of times that we have reported
on specifically robots taking the role not of just like
companion for the elderly, but of romantic companion. And we

(01:11:34):
recently had Elon gave an optimist robot to Kim Kardashian, who,
you know, whatever you think of Kim Kardashian, her role
as sort of a high priestess of secular culture is
sort of a sex symbol. That's her whole thing. And
she had a whole campaign of you know, social media posts.

(01:11:56):
I'm sure that she and Elon had some deal worked
out where she basically was dating the robot, like not
even in a funny way, like they were like serious
cuddling and going places together and really showing this you know,
companionship that robots can do now. And you know, again,

(01:12:19):
it's different if it's in someone you know, an elderly
person or a disabled person who has a robot who's
helping them. This is always the distinction that we try
to make to be just to be realistic about technology
and not be total luddites, but given the fact that
her role in society is sort of this high priestess

(01:12:39):
sex symbol implicitly was not only normalizing but encouraging this
romantic void that can be filled in people's lives by robots.

Speaker 9 (01:12:55):
You know, the.

Speaker 12 (01:12:55):
Roboticists will say, well, we got to solve a problem.
You know, robots need to solve a problem. We can't
just do robots for nothing. They need to solve the problem.
The problem that this particular campaign is advertising with Kim
Kardashian is the problem of modern dating culture, hook up culture, Internet,
you know, app tender culture.

Speaker 9 (01:13:17):
It's left.

Speaker 12 (01:13:18):
You know, we're seeing gen Z turned towards the right
as a generation turns traditional finding God again in numbers
that nobody alive has ever seen. There's not a person
alive who has been who has ever seen a movement
of a generation towards conservatism or traditionalism like we are

(01:13:38):
watching gen Z now. And all the mainstream media has
all sorts of reasons for this, because of COVID, because
of cell phones, because of whatever. And the fact of
the matter is that there's a void. They have a
void in their life between the way that dating culture
and you know mental illness factors in to it, and

(01:14:01):
of course social justice and culture war issues has created
such a a an empty space in young people's lives
that they are in record numbers turning to robots for
not just like sexual conversations or whatever that they do
with the chatbot, but with actual romantic relationships, finding caring.

(01:14:25):
You know, a caring partner that doesn't blah blah blah.
You know, you know, you guys know romantic relationships, right,
you understand. I don't need to explain that to anybody.

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Speaker 12 (01:15:09):
And so back to the optimist robot being positioned as
this coming out in the hundreds of thousands, at least
claimed by Elon in the next six months.

Speaker 9 (01:15:19):
I'll even just give them a year and the.

Speaker 12 (01:15:25):
You know, the destruction of humans trying to fix their
own problems through technology is as old as time itself,
which is kind of part of the fun of watching
the cycle play out again from the Tower of Babbel
up all the way up until now. You know, humans

(01:15:47):
solving physical technical problems, you know, agriculture, various pieces of labor.
Improving quality of life and experience as a physical human
being is one thing, but it's different much like the
Tower of Babbel, where technology is developed to solve an eternal,

(01:16:12):
a spiritual problem, a problem that was caused by separation
from God and his sort of statutes. In the same way,
there's a void, especially in gen Z right now that
they are seeking out that once again. The technologists via

(01:16:32):
these robots, are not just trying to solve a labor problem,
you know, that's something that's its own problem, but to
solve these deep rooted spiritual, eternal problems using their technology.
I'll just say, we all better get ready to learn
a different language because the things are going to get
rowdy really quick.

Speaker 13 (01:16:55):
Who so like cern would be one of those, right,
So I'm just going to say, I will publicly announce
that I discern a dad joke for you them and
I discern. But yeah, no, it's just like there was
an episode Basil where you and gons did a flippy

(01:17:16):
update where there was like a like a marathon, right,
and you guys said something very profound to where like
you guys are over the target, right, and like I
think the world is catching up to the threat that
you know, the robots taking our jobs, flirting with our wives,
taking our jobs, like flirting with our spouses. They lost, right,

(01:17:38):
So so humans overcame robotics, right, So there's nothing to
worry about anymore.

Speaker 6 (01:17:43):
Right, right, don't worry anymore.

Speaker 13 (01:17:47):
But yeah, we talk about behind the scenes all the
time and even on air that everything that like technology
being revealed has probably been in place for probably forty
to fifty years at minimum. So what they're revealing true
choosing to reveal you know, nothing to see here, don't worry, right, So.

Speaker 12 (01:18:10):
Not only nothing to see here, but you know, this
is our destiny, you know, this is it's all wrapped
up in sort of the transhumanism, the ascension of man too.

Speaker 15 (01:18:21):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (01:18:21):
When you're talking about CERN, you know they're like, oh,
we're going to try to find another particle or whatever,
and you know they can use this sort of technical
lingo to explain their experiment, but they themselves, especially at CERN,
have overlaid their work with ritual, with spiritual importance, with

(01:18:43):
ascension of humanity to look through space and time and
understand the very fabric of reality.

Speaker 9 (01:18:51):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:18:51):
It's the sort of this height of hubris, which look,
I'm not even totally against you know, scientific discovery, that's fine.
But when we start, you know, making a religion out
of it and try to solve sort of spiritual eternal
problems with temporal human technology, I mean, it's just a

(01:19:12):
lesson we haven't learned yet.

Speaker 6 (01:19:15):
Yeah, it's wild. It's absolutely wild.

Speaker 12 (01:19:20):
Man, tell us about the dolphins.

Speaker 9 (01:19:22):
I want the Flipper update.

Speaker 6 (01:19:24):
Bro, Well, I don't even know what to do.

Speaker 10 (01:19:27):
I'm like turning on the spot Flipper update, I guess
would be. I mean, I'm looking at all of it,
as you guys can see, I'm sharing my screen here.
But one of the things that I found to be
really provocative is that they made it illegal to witness
the birth of dolphins that happened recently. And I'm like, humh.
And this came up like super organically. I may say

(01:19:51):
it that way, because when I was in North Carolina
with Aaron the beginning of this year, we had this
crazy super out encounter. I consider it to be supernatural
encounter with dolphins. And I've always loved dolphins, like I
love orcas, which are the biggest.

Speaker 6 (01:20:07):
Dolphins really anyway.

Speaker 10 (01:20:08):
And then but I've never thought about it, you know,
like I did that cloud episode, like looking at how
many times clouds come up in the Bible and what
the Bible says about it and and that, Like I
got so many emails and people just been like, I've
never thought about clouds like that before my life, Like,
what is going on that happened to me with dolphins recently?
There's like a whole world of stuff that's like so weird.

(01:20:31):
I'm trying to wrap my head around. We're doing it
in real time, so we're.

Speaker 12 (01:20:34):
In this supernatural experience you had.

Speaker 6 (01:20:37):
Well, Aaron, actually dolphins.

Speaker 12 (01:20:39):
This is yeah, dude, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 10 (01:20:41):
So all right, let me let me pass it to
Aaron to set the stage for it. If you want
me to chime in. Aaron answer, yeah, Basil's question.

Speaker 9 (01:20:49):
One, tell them what happened?

Speaker 12 (01:20:52):
You said that it just became illegal to witness a
dolphin birth. I just learned, and I'm wondering if you
guys heard this, that it's illegal to try to talk
to dolphins.

Speaker 6 (01:21:04):
All right, we're getting.

Speaker 12 (01:21:08):
Now scooting along, gentlemen, communicate with dolphins, all right, Eric, this.

Speaker 6 (01:21:13):
Is crazy, It's okay.

Speaker 13 (01:21:14):
So like I moved down to North Carolina back in
twenty twenty one, right, and I remember I got so
excited just being from Ohio. I jumped off my boat
when I saw a pot of dolphins. And then coastguard
came up and they said it's illegal to swim with dolphins.
I'm like, what, they give me a warning? Rod came
and visited me. We did kind of a working fellowship,
and I took him to my favorite place. I told him,

(01:21:36):
you know, it's where I find serenity. It's a little
island off the coast of North Carolina called Serenity Point.
And we went there and we were intentional. We grounded ourselves.
That's not new Age, by the way, just from the
listeners out there, meaning you took off correct.

Speaker 9 (01:21:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:21:55):
We had our feet in the sands, all right, the
feet we're all over the sand there, yes, And we
went to this little point and we were intentional.

Speaker 13 (01:22:08):
We built this big cross out of sand and then
we got down on our hands and knees. We prayed together,
and then Rod looked at me and he said, on
the count of three, we're both going to scream at
the top of our lungs the mighty name of Jesus.

Speaker 6 (01:22:22):
So we did.

Speaker 13 (01:22:23):
He counted down, one, two, three, counted up, I should say,
and we screamed Jesus. And almost instantaneously, there was a
pot of dolphins that literally beached themselves right next to us,
this little cutout, and they just sat there and they
stared at us, and they revealed their flippers. They stayed there.

(01:22:45):
They were not feeding, they were not doing anything. It
was almost like confirmation with God's creation coming into confirmation
with the proclamation of Jesus. Rod, I'll pass it back
to you, brother.

Speaker 9 (01:22:56):
Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:22:57):
Were they in trouble they beat themselves on just hanging out?

Speaker 6 (01:23:01):
Yes?

Speaker 10 (01:23:01):
Yeah, like seven feet from where the waves were crashing
is my estimate, possibly closer and further at different times
during this experience. But I want to I want to
even back up a little bit because everything's multi layered,
multi layered effect, the multi layered reality.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Right right before.

Speaker 10 (01:23:20):
This, we're walking Surendity Point and I'm like, Aaron, did
something happen here? I can't turn that part of myself
on like Rod is just the weird rod he is
wherever he goes. But sometimes the weirdness levels up, right,
and so I'm feeling like something's off and I'm like, dude,

(01:23:40):
did something happen here?

Speaker 6 (01:23:42):
And he's like, yeah.

Speaker 10 (01:23:43):
They built this using the sandbar equipment because so many
people were getting sucked out into the ocean at like
high tide low tide, and you have the calm Bay
on the inside and the inner coastal right the ocean
literally on the other side, and so they built this
like tip on Serenity Point kind of enlarged it, if

(01:24:04):
you will. So the tip was man made.

Speaker 6 (01:24:08):
That created a sound basically.

Speaker 10 (01:24:11):
Yeah, a safe swimming area, yeah, because people were getting
sucked out, and it's like, yeah, ten people have died
in the last three years here, and so I just
remember being like Lord, like you are king of the universe,
just release it, like like if there's unfinished business here,
like God, your spirit is all of it, man, Like
you already knew that, but if you needed an ambassador

(01:24:33):
to contend that idea and speak it out here.

Speaker 6 (01:24:37):
I am right.

Speaker 10 (01:24:38):
Then the dolphin thing happens after the prayer we built
the Cross. And the craziest part about it is we
have we have some video of these dolphins and and
they're like gently almost beaching themselves, just coming up, showing
their eye, their dorsal, their fins to us. And it's
like super harmonious, a pot of dolphins. Yeah, glorious man.

(01:25:00):
And so immediately Aaron's like, dude, I prayed that we
would see a sign and and and then this happens
within five seconds and he's like losing his stuff, and
I'm just like in the moment, like.

Speaker 6 (01:25:13):
Okay, coommation is crazy.

Speaker 10 (01:25:17):
Are here right? And He's like, what do you think
this is about? And I said, listen, we shouted in agreement,
the one name that is above every single name, and
another intelligent force took recognition to that. And not only
did they understand what was happening, because my plea was
out of desperation. It was out of wanting to see

(01:25:41):
the power of God just be like spoken out into
this region like I'm just not ashamed, right, Like I
don't go into Walmart and scrutin Jesus, Like I'm not
that guy. Like it has to be led by the spirit.
And I haven't done this, but maybe two or three
other times in like the state capitol, and there's like
other anyway. But I said to Aaron, I'm like, dude,
I really do believe that these intelligent species, the dolphins,

(01:26:06):
are resonating with our cry for righteousness in the region.
That's exactly what I said to you.

Speaker 6 (01:26:11):
Eric.

Speaker 10 (01:26:12):
I didn't like pontific I didn't keep going into it,
and we didn't sit and have this long talk. It
was kind of silent after that for a little bit,
and we reflected and we're just like, I'm like, Aaron,
does that happen like? And he's like, dude, I've never
I'll let him testify. But so I'll ask Aaron a question.
Does that happen in your experience? I mean, you've been
on what the Discovery Channel diving with people like all

(01:26:35):
different types of like you've been all around, right, is
that normal?

Speaker 13 (01:26:40):
No, it's it's not. They're actually usually pretty skittitch.

Speaker 6 (01:26:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:26:45):
No, I dove with Ocean Ramsey. She's a world renowned
diver and she's the one that was with uh was
it Big Blue? The biggest great white shark in the world.
But no, they don't act that way, like, yeah, I
know they're very friendly and sometimes they can play around
a little bit. But like typically, especially on the beach,
they only come to the beach if they're they're hunting

(01:27:06):
fish because they'll trap them up against like the shoreline.

Speaker 6 (01:27:09):
This was not that.

Speaker 13 (01:27:11):
Like they literally just swim up very slowly. You could
see the white in their eyes. They were looking at it.
It's almost that they were looking into your soul. I mean,
like trying to paint a picture here. Like honestly, you
had to be there, and like I my first intention
was not to pull out my phone, which, like you know,
we live in a world where everybody wants to describe
their phone. It was so serene and we're at serenity

(01:27:33):
point that it's just like I just remember just staring
and then like looking at Rod, like what is going
on right now? It literally happened within probably two seconds
of us proclaiming dominion over the land under the mighty
name of Jesus.

Speaker 12 (01:27:48):
That is unreal, guys, that is crazy. Yeah, you know,
I mean, amen, what an incredible experience that you know God.

Speaker 9 (01:28:00):
Allowed gave like.

Speaker 12 (01:28:03):
What it's just incredible. I certainly I'll say I have
seen and touched a dolphin, but it did not start
praising Jesus right in front of me. I mean, the
flipper waving, the whole thing. I mean, that's just like
a beautiful choir of creation. And there's you know, I
don't know a whole ton about dolphins. All I know

(01:28:26):
is from what kind of the whatever the popular culture
has has I've just absorbed. But I do find it
interesting that. I mean, obviously dolphins hold a very special
place in creation. Uh, you know, from even from literature,

(01:28:47):
you know, the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy or the
dolphins or aliens, and they've been protecting us, you know,
for generations or whatever. The kind of unreal connection that
lots of people have claimed to have with these creatures.
They're weird, uncanny ability to sense like human emotion or

(01:29:12):
or even diseases, crazy stuff like that. I mean, sometimes
it does make me wonder that if God created a
sea mammal to have such a i'll say lubricated connection
with human beings. Uh, just like, what what's the plan here, God?

(01:29:36):
What is the what role does this creature play?

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
You know?

Speaker 12 (01:29:39):
These dogs?

Speaker 6 (01:29:43):
My gosh.

Speaker 12 (01:29:44):
Yeah, I mean it's it's it's that is full on.
I think anybody would agree that that experience. You know,
you could put that right up with like UFO Sighting
or something some other sort of super nice.

Speaker 10 (01:29:57):
Underwater dolphin craft. Yeah, it's like no, seriously though, all right,
can I can I do something here?

Speaker 2 (01:30:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (01:30:05):
Yeah, So I text you last night as and I
was like, do you remember Echo the Dolphin from Sega Genesis.

Speaker 6 (01:30:11):
And You're like, yeah, I never played it.

Speaker 10 (01:30:13):
Yeah, I never played it, but I didn't tell him about,
like you know that I wanted to bring up dolphins
on this episode. I just literally asked a question. But
I have pulled up on the screen here that echo
of the dolphins. Come on, people, take a ride with me.
We're millennials. I had the second Genesis. Don't hate on me.
If you were Nintendo, we couldn't afford both. But I
used to play Nintendo a lot at my friend's houses,
and when the first Echo of the Dolphin Segond Genesis

(01:30:35):
game comes out, I remember my dad and my uncle
playing it, and I was just happy to get the
controller in my hands, like when they went to take
a break and just flipping up out of the water.
I didn't even know what the game was about, you
know what I mean? But I start looking at it,
and this dolphin is literally going through and dealing with
stargates and portals and using frequency and vibration to collec

(01:31:01):
dimensional gems that are found in the lost ruins of Atlantis,
lining those up to synchronize with the dolphins echo format
and opening up new veils and dimensions. And like this
it's like a sad story because he like loses his
family and he's like he's like being tortured with the
reality that he has to go through all these like
aqua dimensions to try to like retrieve his family. And

(01:31:23):
he's fighting like Medusa crazy creatures, and like, I'm I'm
in my thirties right, I'm in my birthday's actually what
was today?

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
Tomorrow?

Speaker 10 (01:31:32):
My god, I'm gonna be third heavy. I've never said
my age on the air. I'm gonna be thirty seven
tomorrow May. Yeah, my god. And so this game I
have sat as a little kid and looked up at
the big TV to my young peeps, to my twins
and all their friends who listen. You guys have no
idea what these TVs were like. But they were big,

(01:31:53):
and they yeah, and they didn't have the greatest picture.
But I sat for countless hours.

Speaker 6 (01:32:00):
In the nineties and watch this gameplay.

Speaker 10 (01:32:03):
I have no idea what happened to my little mind,
Like what was our program you know, like watching a
echo dolphin and crystals and that like the dolphin would
spin and open a portal.

Speaker 6 (01:32:12):
Crazy stuff.

Speaker 12 (01:32:13):
But anyway, I mean, talk about predictive programming, dude, seriously.

Speaker 10 (01:32:17):
But I never thought nothing of it until in these
latter years. This is why I literally got slammed with
this idea, because even what happened with Aaron in North Carolina,
I didn't think more of it than another intelligent creature
is resonating with our righteous cry and all of the
sudden rods start surfing the internet and seeing seeing all.

Speaker 6 (01:32:41):
Of this stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:32:42):
So I'm not going to continue to just kind of
rant on this dolphin or the echo game from PECAD
Genesis because it's old news.

Speaker 12 (01:32:48):
But maybe they're trying to support lead you to the
start date at the end of the point. Maybe that's
the problem. When they built the wave break or whatever,
they crushed ancient portal and they need you to drive
an excavator out into the ocean. I mean, at least

(01:33:08):
this is what you're going to tell the cops when
you steal an excavator and drive it into the ocean.

Speaker 6 (01:33:13):
Yeah, we didn't. We didn't do anything wrong. Anybody out
there listening, don't prove dolphins. Dolphins came to us. We
didn't do anything wrong.

Speaker 10 (01:33:21):
But it's just a crazy, this crazy connection because I
feel like in all the years i've been I've been
doing this, which isn't very long, but I've looked into
enough stuff where I'm like, Okay, maybe not too much
other stuff is going to like disturb me or I'm
not going to have a personal encounter with something that

(01:33:41):
will trigger right, Like I've already dealt with the dream
world of all of it. I've seen some stuff with
my own eyes that is hard to describe. Some of
that I can talk about maybe on a different future recording.
But the dolphin thing, for me, it was a pleasant surprise,
you know. It was just like God was kind of
nudging me to like, there's so much more that we

(01:34:03):
don't get the beauty of or the design behind that
He has yet for us to do great exploits. I
will mention two pieces of scripture, and I'm gonna give
a shout out to Terry Allen, who sent me a
little bit of this because on our Thursday night prayer
call I did bring up this story with Aaron. We're
on a mega man radio. Shout out to him. Shannon

(01:34:23):
Davis and Bali Indonesia. We shared a broadcast. We hijacked
his show about a week ago, and Aaron told the
dolphins story. So like all of it's like been bruin, right,
So shout out to Terry. He sends over that dolphins
are mentioned in the Bible in a few ways, primarily
in the context of the Exodus story as part of
God's creation. Specifically, Exodus twenty six fourteen refers to the

(01:34:47):
use of to cash the skins in the construction of
the tabernacle. In some interpretation suggest that this refers to
dolphin skins. So this an interesting little thing there that
we might be able to consider. Additionally, Daniel three seven
to nine includes dolphins in a list of creatures praising
the Lord. And so when I did that digging in

(01:35:09):
Daniel three seven nine, it doesn't come up verbatim. I
think this is where it gets into like the hermeneutical
hygiene or the etymology of usage of words. So certain
people are arguing that dolphin could easily be inserted in
that creature list, but it doesn't show up in the
English as dolphins. So you guys, you know, I just
want to be transparent. I'm not trying to say or
preach something new to anybody out here, but you take

(01:35:31):
it for what it is. Eat the meat, spit out
the bonesy guys. But there's some stuff going on here,
and I mean kind of reverting it back to the
fact that dolphins do have bigger brains than humans, and
they have a pineal and they have the same left
and right hemisphere as humans do. Their brain is modeled
very similar to ours. They're using intentionality echolocation, which means

(01:35:53):
they're communicating to their environment. Dolphins have names for each other.
They're highly sociable. I'm not going to go much more
into it than that, but it's fascinating.

Speaker 6 (01:36:04):
And don't I don't even live close to the beach.
I'm the Southeastern pa Like. I have to go through
Philadelphia to go to the beach and that's not ideal,
so I try to stay stay safe in the woods. Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:36:15):
Well that was your first flippy upper Flipper.

Speaker 12 (01:36:18):
Flipper update update on the Earth the Legends, No trust me,
there is no time limit on Flippy or Flipper updates. Yeah,
I'm gonna say you're gonna send me off on a
journey to go learn more about dolphins. I don't have
a whole lot of uh, you know, cool things to
add to what you've already put together here. I will

(01:36:40):
say it was again in yesterday's Caner Crack Clubhouse episode,
the topic was Leviathan and Behemoth, and Leviathan specifically. If
I was going to connect any dots, there was some
interesting I mean, there's lots of interesting stuff about Leviathan
as the iron chaos sea creature from you know, from

(01:37:03):
the Dawn of Creation and one of the one of
the verses I think it was in Daniel that refers
to Leviathan talks about it as like, in a way
to illustrate God playing with Leviathan in the ocean, like

(01:37:25):
Leviathan is like a playful dragon sea monster creature that
you know, God kind of tosses around and plays with. Now, obviously,
when it comes to the both the literal, the metaphorical,
the mythological and the the theographical, whatever, all the versions

(01:37:49):
that the different ways that the Old Testament is meant
to be read, whatever it is, you know, a we
get the point that God is bigger than this biggest,
almost demi god like horror creature, but also there's sort
of like this playfulness, there's some sort of there's you know,

(01:38:10):
there's some sort of relationship with this sea creature that
is different than with the behemoth. They're different from any
other animals. You know, the Bible doesn't talk about like
God prancing around with lions in the jungle or something,
and yet God was sort of bobbing around, dancing and

(01:38:32):
playing in the ocean with Leviathan. Now I'm not saying
Leviathan was a giant, flame throwing, flame breathing dolphin, but
you know, it's going to be a great question to
ask once we get to the sweep by and By.

Speaker 13 (01:38:49):
So basically what you're saying, or what I'm going to say,
is that when the beast rises out of the sea,
that a giant dolphin is going to come defeed it.

Speaker 9 (01:38:56):
It's possible.

Speaker 12 (01:38:57):
It's possible that God has some big plan for the
dolphins that we don't know yet.

Speaker 13 (01:39:03):
I think the whole point of this, and the whole
point of like just introducing the flipper update, is the
fact that like we need to be intentional on asking questions.
So the only thing that really sparked this whole conversation
about dolphins would be like, Okay, why can't I swim
with them?

Speaker 6 (01:39:21):
Okay?

Speaker 13 (01:39:21):
Why can we not see them breed? Why can we
not talk to them? That's news to me?

Speaker 6 (01:39:26):
You know.

Speaker 13 (01:39:26):
Why can we only go to certain areas of antarctica?
Why can we not have the know about all the
secrets in freemasonry?

Speaker 6 (01:39:35):
Right? Like all these things? What is a woman? Right?

Speaker 13 (01:39:38):
I mean like we're using key they whatever. I just
want to go ahead and take this moment to introduce
a bill to label the three letter agencies that are
responsible for all of this as we will refer to
them as they them.

Speaker 12 (01:40:01):
That's very funny. Yeah, I can second that bill.

Speaker 9 (01:40:04):
That's good.

Speaker 12 (01:40:05):
I mean, it's it just seems natural. It's it's genetic,
you know, they're they them, it's how we how we
discussed them.

Speaker 9 (01:40:13):
That's great.

Speaker 10 (01:40:13):
So is they them in reference to a kaimero?

Speaker 6 (01:40:16):
Are they? Like? Yes? I know, many just but like
it's it works so much right.

Speaker 9 (01:40:26):
Many headed hydra for sure?

Speaker 10 (01:40:29):
Oh my gosh, that is crazy. All right, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna spit fire. Two questions, one for Aaron,
one for Basil, and just you know, try to share
your view on this. Right, So, do you think that
the Bible is to be taken literal? And that's a

(01:40:49):
big question, but but try to you know, maybe short
and concise. Do you think it's meant to be taken literal?

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Yes?

Speaker 13 (01:40:58):
And now, I mean, like like you just said, that's
a tough answer. You know that Jesus spoke in parables,
and my personal belief is that Jesus spoke in such
a way that you could only be led by the
Holy Spirit. I really understand because I mean, why would
Jesus And even like you know, the followers of Jesus,
the writers of the Word reveal all of their plans,

(01:41:20):
especially from the beginning to the end, just for Satan
to be able to counter that attack. Right, So it's
all there. But the Bible, you know, as we've said
both on and off the air, is just a book
with letters and that you have to pray about it
and you have to be led by the Holy Spirit
to make those words come to life. It is the

(01:41:42):
living Word. So yeah, I guess that's my answer is
yes and no. Always be intentional, literally on being led
by the Holy Spirit.

Speaker 6 (01:41:53):
For sure, that's great.

Speaker 12 (01:41:56):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting, like I don't know, I
don't have the art the words, I don't really know
how to articulate it. So this will be a sloppy
way to kind of respond to that. First of all,
I agree with what you're saying, and then when I
try to think about it more and deeper and really

(01:42:17):
try to articulate my thoughts, and like, dude, I don't
even know with where I am right now in the
world in God, I'm not.

Speaker 9 (01:42:28):
Even really sure.

Speaker 12 (01:42:31):
Like if literal is even like helpful, like it's too
small of a word, like almost like I can't there's
not a whole lot of difference between whatever literal metaphorical,
and especially when you're coming to the Bible, I mean
there's it's I mean, even just from the start, it's

(01:42:54):
meant to be read in many different ways. Sometimes it's
supposed to be sung, sometimes it's supposed to be yeah,
you know, parables and all sorts of stuff. So that's
that's quite obvious. So at the same time, when I
think like, well, yeah, I mean the Bible is literal,

(01:43:15):
but then in my head, like the word literal kind
of includes all the other thing, Like, just because it's
a parable doesn't mean that it's not literal, because I
want to literally read the parable the way it's supposed
to be read, like reading the Bible in the way
it's meant to be read in any way, or sung

(01:43:35):
or talked or felt or anything like still kind of
is literal. Maybe I spend too much time like considering
like if we're in a simulation or like in the
mind of God, or like, you know, when you start
going down the many layers of trying to understand exactly
what quote unquote reality even is or consists of, I'm

(01:44:00):
kind of like, you know, is something literal or metaphorical
has kind of stopped being like a super helpful distinction
specifically to try to argue about I guess because I
can already feel people out there, Oh my gosh, Basil
doesn't think the Bible's literal thing it is, but to

(01:44:24):
have an argument with somebody about whether psalms is literal
or if it's songs, or if it's this or if
it's that. I literally think that the Bible is true
in a truer sense than we even have a definition
for true. Sort of transcendently literal or transcendently truth, you know,

(01:44:46):
which may include sometimes that an earth based mind might
consider metaphorical, it's still true and a very literal sense.
So I'm happy to report that I haven't had to
get in an argument with somebody about that, although I

(01:45:08):
do sometimes lay awake at night and remember getting into
arguments with my atheist friends in middle school or like,
strangely enough, my best friend's parents. I've had like, you know,
conversations about the nature of the Bible and stuff, and
I'm kind of like, oh, no, I don't even know

(01:45:29):
how I'm gonna describe to anybody else that, like literal
is not even a helpful term anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:45:36):
Jeez, Louise, Oh there's maybe I like what.

Speaker 10 (01:45:43):
I really like what both of you said. And this
is kind of the birth of these segments where I
guess hermoneutal hygiene can be exercised in the very setting
that we set us out for, right like, where like
we're coming together and kind of like autocorrecting and learning
from each other. And I thought about this, and the

(01:46:03):
reason I asked it is I kind of had the
idea that we would come to this place where there's
people out there that are asking that same question, Well,
with everything going on, is it literal? Did any of
it happen? Does it even matter? Is it all just metaphorical?
Is it all meant to be, you know, layered into
this matrix idea of our reality and the benefits only

(01:46:23):
come from the word that's eternally settled in heaven because
blah right. So the way that I look at it
in agreement with you too, is that it's literal until
it can't be taken literal anymore. And the literalness of
the Bible is like this grounding point of humility that
there's certain things like I guess we couldn't argue right archaeology,

(01:46:46):
like just them showing locationally or I mean, if you
took the statement literal to love your neighbor and you
actually did it, and seeing that it ends in this equation,
whether they respond in love like being you know, fulfilling
the law in that way, and it resonates with you,
You're like, oh, I can read that verbatim right off

(01:47:08):
the top, and it means what it says, and it
says what it means, and then we get to, you know,
the idea of doctor Chuck Missler would say, well, there's
two hundred formats of speech in the Bible, and I
remember the first time I heard that, and I'm like, well,
did any of it even happen? This is before I
knew of like anything about minor locations, you know, and
in Israel, and you know, geography, your locations, or archaeology

(01:47:32):
or what they're able to prove. Now, which which I
think is the conversation now lends to it being so
multi layered, like you said, Basil, and it's so grand
that defining the beginning of this conversation is helpful for
someone out there listening, but it also shows us that
we've come so far from like maybe that first you know,

(01:47:55):
frog in your throat when you thought of Mohan, when
you questioned the idea like can I take any of
this series? Yeah, And so a bit of reflection and
it really does help for me personally. And I think
it's meant to be taken literal until it can't be.
And I think much of it can't be taken as
in like tangible, just hold it up right in front

(01:48:17):
of you, because a lot of it it's going to
require faith and belief and childlike adventure and curiosity. So
you know, the usually that's helpful for somebody out there
who's like, yeah, you know what, I kind of needed
that critique on that idea.

Speaker 12 (01:48:29):
Yeah, and somebody who wants to get even weirder, you know,
I would say, even the discussion, the fact that it's
an ongoing debate about the literalness of the Bible.

Speaker 9 (01:48:40):
Who is debating that.

Speaker 12 (01:48:41):
It's people who want to draw you away from faith.
There's people who want to draw you away from God. Like,
that's why the conversation even really exists and really matters.
It's because you know, getting maybe it's helpful for somebody,
and if it's helpful helpful for them, I encourage them

(01:49:03):
to continue, you know, down that path. I will say,
to get locked into the literal or not literal debate
is kind of it feels like a little bit of
a trap in that it's only the debate only exists
because somebody wants to take away from the Bible. They
want to take away from the Word of God, they

(01:49:25):
want to take away a credibility, they want to take
away you know, the any sense in even reading it
at all, it's playing the world's game a little bit
to get stuck in the Is it literal?

Speaker 9 (01:49:40):
Is it not?

Speaker 12 (01:49:41):
You're you're playing the game that somebody invented to try
to discredit the logos the word of God. Yes, and
you know, I'm sure there's that. There's lots of times
when that's helped somebody, and I'm sure that that's a
big part of somebody's you know thing, And that's great. However,
we don't even know, like, we don't what is literal

(01:50:04):
when we don't even know what real is? What reality is?
Every apt like, okay, what is real? Well I can
touch it? Okay, Well, you actually don't touch anything because
ninety nine percent of every atom is empty space, and
atoms never touch each other. Why don't they touch each other?
We don't know, because there's a force that just doesn't

(01:50:25):
let them touch each other. Well, what do you mean
does this force bounce up against each other?

Speaker 14 (01:50:30):
We don't know.

Speaker 12 (01:50:30):
It's literally just a piece of code that says atoms
don't touch each other. Okay, so what we consider real
in my hand this controller is basically ninety nine percent space,
and I'm really just holding a piece of code that
is meant to not merge with my hands and become
a piece of me. All right, well, if that's literal,

(01:50:54):
then it's pretty I'm not sure what literal even means anymore,
you know, if something is role or physical or whatever.
And don't even get me started on you know, the
past or the future or the time at all, Like
what even is time?

Speaker 6 (01:51:11):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (01:51:13):
Movement?

Speaker 6 (01:51:14):
Okay, so well let's let's let's look at this.

Speaker 10 (01:51:16):
This is a super interesting thread to go on, you know,
the whole idea, like you said, with the space in
between the spaces, right, so when we look at it
through the microscope, right, like the what is it called?
Doctor Chuck used to talk about the cutting a piece
of string and continue to cut that half's half all

(01:51:38):
the way down to it loses a property called locality,
and it just becomes everywhere at once. It's plasma, and
it's like, okay, well that's interesting. And then I don't know,
for some reason, I'm I'm thinking about the lectins and
the gut that are responsible for covering the blood brain barrier.
They're they're like they call it the hunger hormone. So
depending on like parasitic or or good bacteria in your gut,

(01:52:01):
it can take over your brain. It's literally the only
thing that can cover that barrier and communicate. That's why
we call the guy the second brain. And I'm like
to me to tell me there's like microscopic parasitic activity
that if you have enough of them in this tiny
little space that we have trouble measuring, that they're able
to communicate with your brain and cause you to be

(01:52:24):
actionary or desire something. I'm like, Okay, so it just
gets weirder and weirder. And what are your guys thoughts
on the idea of those micro cosmic spaces being inhabited
by spiritual entities or having some type of quantum effect
with spiritual things. I mean, it's a big question, but

(01:52:47):
let's try to ride the wave of like are there
multiple pieces that kind of fit in and make sense
when we start to go A demon doesn't have to
be you know, five foot ten or anephylum, disembodied spirit
or whatever you want to call. It doesn't have to
be the representation of what they may have literally been
according to the Bible's dimensions. They can work in these

(01:53:10):
tiny little spaces thoughts.

Speaker 13 (01:53:14):
Well, the Bible says that like we're not just a body,
we're mind, body.

Speaker 6 (01:53:18):
And spirit.

Speaker 13 (01:53:20):
Right, And then I also wanted to like, you know,
just kind of go back real quick and I will
answer your question, or at least I'll try to. You know,
there's nothing new under the sun. Right, So, as you
were talking about the gut being the second brain, you know,
there's a term that I think we've all used before
and heard, you know, trust your gut. Where did that
come from?

Speaker 6 (01:53:43):
You know?

Speaker 13 (01:53:45):
So the fact that we operate in the mind, body,
and spirit, I mean, like, how can we even fathom
if we don't know? As Basil was saying, like we
don't know, we don't know. I'm going to just go back,
as Michael Bashan would say, you know, go back to
the word, because all the answers are there, and like
being led by the spirit. I mean, like I think
that we're created in such a way that like you know, knowledge, right,

(01:54:06):
we wanted to eat from the tree, We wanted to
be as gods. We want to know more, and I
think we need to be not necessarily complacent, but like okay,
and trust that God has everything and we don't necessarily
need to understand everything. And we see the enemy wants
to know everything. It's a technological war, it's a knowledge war, right,

(01:54:28):
and they only feed us certain amounts of information, but
like you know, being led by the spirit, we know
a lot more than they do, you know, no different
than like you know, the power of tongs And I
did want to you know, I'll give it to you, Basil,
because I'm sure you probably have a lot better answer
than I do. But like as Rod had his baby
on air, it kind of just sparks something in me.

(01:54:50):
And this is just kind of a weird thought, you know,
me being a new dead you know, I watched Boss
Baby not that long ago, and again that whole theme
of nothing new under the sun we go back to,
like the Tower of Babbel and dividing of languages. I
had this weird thought that I don't know, maybe if
you guys want to chew on it for a while
and we can get back to each other. Sometimes, like

(01:55:11):
when I look at my daughter, it seems like she
knows a lot more than I do. And she kind
of babbles, right is she speaking in tongues?

Speaker 6 (01:55:22):
You know? And I just can't really understand her. Does
she know a lot more?

Speaker 13 (01:55:24):
Is there no different than in the movie Boss Baby,
where they reach a certain point in their development where
it's like Okay, I'm finally in the world, you know,
I finally have my new language, you know what I mean,
I don't know some to think about it, I guess.

Speaker 12 (01:55:41):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, honestly, I don't know if I'm
just kind of stuck on the literal thing again. But
you know, we're talking about how and put me back
on track if I'm a little off track where. You know,
we started talking about the atoms and the end space
and what is literal and is spirit? You know, what

(01:56:04):
exists between those empty spaces and uh, you know, if
we are trying to conceive of spirit versus well, they
would say reality, but I would say, I don't think
there's a difference. There's there's nothing separating spirit from reality.
You know, everything is essentially spiritual. And that is not

(01:56:27):
to say, as I'm sure somebody cringed out there, that
is not to say that everything is sacred. Just because
everything is spiritual has spiritual reality and spiritual consequence, doesn't
mean everything is holy. That's a thing to distinguish when
you know, treading the sidelines of the you know, I

(01:56:50):
don't know the secular search for for spirituality versus you know,
what we've been given in the word of God, and.

Speaker 9 (01:57:05):
So a, yeah, I'm pretty sure you're.

Speaker 12 (01:57:08):
Baby speaking in tongues for sure.

Speaker 9 (01:57:10):
I don't know why there wouldn't be.

Speaker 3 (01:57:12):
I mean, the.

Speaker 12 (01:57:16):
It's quite clear, even from experience and even from biblical
study that, you know, God, the Holy Spirit is with children.
The Holy Spirit loves children so much that God's telling
us to be like children. Jesus is insisting that we've
messed up. The state of Adam before the fall was

(01:57:40):
like children. It was only after the the the self
consciousness of well, eating of the tree of the knowledge
of the fruit of evil, to maturing in that way
in you know, you can easily see as parent would.

(01:58:00):
I'm not a parent, but I know a lot of parents,
and I agree with them on this, and it's sort
of stereotypical to you know, sometimes you wish they could
just stay little babies forever. You just wish that they
could stay innocent and cute and you can have all
the fun days all the time. But then something happens,
and when Adam and Eve, you know, reached the state

(01:58:24):
of the knowledge of good and evil, they found themselves
self conscious, suddenly self centered, self obsessed, and they were
shamed or shamed, felt shame about it, and felt guilty,
and you know, realized that they had things to hide
and stuff like that, much like where before they were

(01:58:46):
effortly effortless with God, effortlessly walking with God, effortlessly talking
with God. Who knows if they even spoke a language.
Maybe the whole time they were just blah blah blaing
like a baby. You know, it's interesting that got that
Adam's job was to sort of devise language, you know,

(01:59:07):
that was part of his process that started when he
was created, was to then figure out what to call things,
where before that it had to have just been some
heavenly language. How did God and Adam talk, We don't
really know. It could have been pure utterance of the
Holy Spirit. It's possible. I get these are kind of

(01:59:28):
funky things to kind of explore, and I'm not talking
hard theology here. We're just having some fun. And so
everything is spiritual in that it has spiritual consequence. And
one thing that's sort of recently been getting a lot
of traction, which makes total sense to me. And perhaps

(01:59:51):
it's because I sometimes exist in a pre false state
in my imagination about you know, what things could. But
it's recently picking up more steam. Uh, I'm just grabbing
it from popular mechanics here, So take that for what
you will. It's like the tabloids of science, but says

(02:00:11):
every single cell in your body could be conscious. Scientists
say that could rewrite everything we know about human evolutions.

Speaker 9 (02:00:18):
You can see.

Speaker 12 (02:00:19):
The narrative being guided in that direction in the first place.
But you know, if you ever watched cells or bacteria
or reproductive cells under a microscope or seeing this footage,
you go, okay, let's just take let's just say.

Speaker 9 (02:00:36):
That those are just machines.

Speaker 12 (02:00:38):
You know. The assumption is not that that little thing
swimming around is like has some sort of goal or
like knows what it's doing or whatever.

Speaker 9 (02:00:48):
The idea is that.

Speaker 12 (02:00:49):
It's sort of like an automaton, that it's just following
software instructions. But then you watch it and you're like,
those little guys are on a mission. Those little guys
kind of know what's going on, you know, I mean
the obvious, Uh, the obvious one comes to mind there,
but you can also think of like you look at, uh,

(02:01:11):
what is that even like little I think it's RNA
or m rna or some little piece of DNA. This
was something that we looked a lot into, of course,
in recent times. And you look at these things under
a microscope and there's like a little worm and it's
a little worm like inching up and down, crawling.

Speaker 6 (02:01:31):
Up and down.

Speaker 9 (02:01:34):
Yeah, and it's.

Speaker 12 (02:01:35):
Going around, it's sniffing. It like goes up, it kind
of sniffs around again, then it goes back and then
it kind of makes a change and whatever. It's like
a little maintenance guy on your DNA. And you look
at that and you go, okay, well if that's some
sort of mindless automaton and you go, okay, well, how

(02:01:55):
does it know to where to go? Well, there's a
there's a chemical signal. It gets a chemical and so
then it walks up and down the DNA and then
it gets another chemical. It's like, bro, that's what we do.
We eat a cheeseburger and then we go to work,
and then we're at work for a while, and then
we eat another cheeseburger and then we go do what

(02:02:18):
we're gonna do. So now you know, the word consciousness
is loaded because that's you know, I don't think they're
suggesting that every cell in your body has a brain
and feels love and has dreams that it wants to
accomplish or whatever. But if dolphins can swim up to

(02:02:42):
the beach and join some humans in praising Jesus, how
is that much different than some cells in your body
living their life. Perhaps they have an instinct to crawl
up and down your de and make changes, but they're
making choices. You're watching them make choices. Will you look

(02:03:07):
at bacteria underneath the microscope and we all kind of
have a vision of just like some celfs sitting there,
But then you see guys like swimming around seeking out food,
finding a piece of food, eating the food, bumping up
against another bacteria and swimming around it. It's like, okay,

(02:03:27):
we could think of them maybe as like Amazon warehouse
robots who are moving you know, packages around or something.
Or if it's anything like any of other God's creations,
it has some.

Speaker 3 (02:03:45):
Sort of.

Speaker 12 (02:03:47):
Motivation that it is acting on. So you get down
to these very smallest things. Do I think bacteria have
a soul that will be.

Speaker 9 (02:03:57):
Led into heaven? I don't really know.

Speaker 12 (02:03:59):
I know we allegedly have a trillion cells in our
body that are, you know, working together to make us work.
Will our new glorified bodies, you know, in the suite
by and by will those have a trillion cells that
are swimming around. What is going to be the nature

(02:04:20):
of that? And then we get into the question of, uh,
you know, back to physical versus spiritual. And I was
recently listening to Oh our buddy.

Speaker 7 (02:04:30):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:04:31):
Tim Alberino has been getting everywhere lately, very impressive. If
he was recently on Timpoole and he's onto Real Temple,
Real Tempoole. The yeah, the the beanie Boy Timpoole, Yeah,
the Real Tempoole. He uh had Tim Alberino on and

(02:04:53):
they're talking about all sorts of stuff, and of course
it's Tim, so inevitably the conversation of aliens and Nephelim
and stuff like that that come up. And there was
another gal on the show. I don't know who she is,
but she was. They start talking about Nephelim and Tim
is like, wow, Nephelim, Like the mix of angels and humans?
Is that actually in the Bible? And Tim goes, yeah,

(02:05:15):
it's in the Bible. It's in Genesis. It's an Eenoch
And Tim goes, no, does it actually say that angels
made babies with women? And he goes, yeah, yeah, it's
in Genesis six. It says right here, the sons of
God came down maybe with the blah blah blah blah
blah and bane dephlo. He goes, whoa. And then the
gal chimes in and she says, well, how could angels

(02:05:38):
do that? Because they don't have a body, Because they're spiritual,
they're spiritual beings. And in this broad vernacular, and I
used Tim Poole as kind of an example of alternative media,
but still basically secular media, not not you know, they

(02:06:01):
haven't had a whole lot of Bible scholars and don't
spend a lot of time trying to parse the differences
between our angels manifest in a.

Speaker 9 (02:06:09):
Physical form or not.

Speaker 12 (02:06:10):
Right, So this gal goes, you know, well, angels don't
have bodies, how could they met with with women? And
so they have the conversation about well, actually, as far
as the Bible's concerned, angels have had bodies plenty of times.
This line between physical end quote spiritual where in the

(02:06:33):
common secular or even just alternative vernacular, spiritual inherently means invisible.
If you say spiritual, you're saying you can't see, touch,
tast or smell it. You know, that's really the definition
that they're working with, whereas biblically angels the quintessential spiritual

(02:06:55):
beings are often take physical form in our reality. Well,
what does that tell us? It tells us that the separation,
the difference between physical and quote spiritual is a infinitely
less differentiated than the sort of common way of talking

(02:07:17):
about it. And I think that's where I think, you know,
at least in broader culture, this is starting to be
talked about a lot more because of the alien stuff
and the this, and of course Christianity is having a
resurgence right now thanks to gen Z and you know,
it is one of these things you kind of got
to talk about on the sideline the side of the

(02:07:39):
court a little bit, because it's still you know, like
a lot of things, the sort of New Age movement
made touching on some topics a little bit sensitive for people.
So but you go back to the Bible, there is
significantly less distance between quote unquote spiritual and physical or

(02:08:03):
whatever material reality and spiritual reality.

Speaker 9 (02:08:07):
So much like.

Speaker 12 (02:08:09):
I'm having a big problem these days differentiating well between
literal and not literal. I mean, if it's true it's literal.
If it is, it's literal God. You know, God didn't
just make everything. He's the reason being exists, why being
can be, why anything is instead of is not. And unfortunately,

(02:08:33):
you know a lot of the New Age kind of
came to this conclusion in modern times earlier than a
lot of Christians. Now, I'll say, you go back far
enough to sort of the Desert Fathers, the early Christians.
This was just common knowledge and somewhere along the line,
you know, I love American Evangelicalism, I love Protestantism. I

(02:08:53):
owe everything I have to Protestantism and American Evangelicalism. But
it really is a very new set of assumptions. I
won't even really say theology or beliefs or anything.

Speaker 9 (02:09:06):
There is a.

Speaker 12 (02:09:08):
Set of assumptions an American Evangelical Protestantism that is really
descendants from the Enlightenment period. American evangelicalism is really like
one hundred, maybe one hundred and fifty kind of years old.
It's an incredibly new model that sort of dictates the

(02:09:31):
you know, most people's default understanding of spirituality in America. However, thankfully,
more and more and more people are not only coming
to be interested in what the Bible has to stay,
but also spending much more time actually thinking and exploring

(02:09:54):
and stuff like that. And I think we're going to
see with this new generation of gen Z Christians. While
while they are going to be significantly more traditional than
the current American Evangelical Protestant movement, you know, Megachurch's progressivism
in the church, this kind of stuff's where the Protestants

(02:10:14):
kind of tried to keep up with secularism rather than
the other way around. While they will be more traditional,
I think value virtue and however have the same struggles
the rest of us have. I think this broad understanding
of what is physical, what is spiritual, what is literal,
and what is literal? And what is literal and what

(02:10:35):
is literal and what.

Speaker 9 (02:10:36):
Is spiritual and physical?

Speaker 12 (02:10:38):
You know, I feel us coming to a place where,
again we were not stuck playing the skeptics game, playing
the game of the professional scientists, the priests of science,
the quote literalists, the materialists. Much of our conversation is

(02:10:58):
dictated by that realm of thought, by the system that
wants us to worship experts with degrees worship. You know,
members of us of an NGO or scientific community. The
guy on TV, whatever he says is true, that's where

(02:11:19):
that's the way we go. And it's those guys, it's
the Fauci's on TV who are forcing the conversation into well,
angels can't be physical.

Speaker 9 (02:11:31):
Either they're either physical or they're spiritual. Which is it?

Speaker 12 (02:11:34):
Are these are they invisible ghost beings or are they physical?
Because if they're physical, then they're just people. You know,
we're playing their game and I'm done playing their game.
It doesn't kind of being being scared, you know. I mean,
things are weird enough as they are, and I think,
you know, God is really I think that's going to
be part of the next year, is the I think

(02:11:57):
the spirit around these conversations is going to be going
in a much different direction.

Speaker 6 (02:12:04):
Yeah. Wow, that's really well said.

Speaker 10 (02:12:08):
I guess you could say there's a bit of that
responsibility within, you know, the millennial, the elder millennial generation,
to not only be ready to at any point in time,
give a good answer for what we believe, but even
be challenged at what the Bible calls us to do.
That this younger generation may do better, you know, and

(02:12:32):
it's going to require some humility. But they're also not
going to have experience Like it takes me to this
idea where if you were to base only what you
consider to be true in the Bible based on your
personalized experience, how much of it would.

Speaker 6 (02:12:51):
Measure up with totality to the text, you know what
I mean.

Speaker 10 (02:12:55):
And it's like, well, wouldn't that be an interesting concept,
like did you have an angelic experience? Because if you didn't,
they're not literal beings that appeared in front of you
in your time space dimension. It's like, oh wow, that
could challenge a lot of people that talk about this
that maybe haven't had that up front like face to face,
eye to eye encounter was something that they couldn't explain. Yeah,

(02:13:16):
and I think that's an interesting idea that there's a
generation of people coming in that are going to have
more of that religious form. Because me and Aaron looked
statistically and the reason I work with behind the scenes
and on air in you know, organizations that prevent child suicide,
suicide prevention from action and the Philippines all the way

(02:13:37):
to the count you know, doctor Nataliettwell for example being one.
There's many others, but is because it's it's a real problem.
We looked up statistically how many young people were committing suicide,
and I was blown away to find out it's thirteen
to twenty.

Speaker 6 (02:13:50):
One years old.

Speaker 10 (02:13:51):
And I'm like, my god, they talk about not looking
out for your little brother, Like just because I'm thirty
six doesn't mean I should be in any way not
completely on on my radar the condition of those who
are younger than me. I'm like, man, like, so this
is there's a lot here God, Now it requires a

(02:14:14):
body like dude. We nobody can can even start to
tackle this thing unless we have acclasia, unless we have
you know, willing participants, all decks on hand and in love.
But and so back to like this kind of lane
or idea for another moment of if we were to

(02:14:35):
testify to what we consider to be truthful about the
Bible based on personal experience, Like literally, you as a
listener out there, I want you to think about that.
If you've had a ton of supernatural encounters, good or bad,
you know, does that mean your your story, your testimony,
your truth is any more real than somebody who maybe

(02:14:57):
only experiences just love and peace. Who says, man, I
know God because I feel the love of God and
I've tried the pill, I've tried the bottle, I've tried
the world, I've tried the doctors, I've tried the counseling.
It doesn't work, but I feel right, and it's like,
this could be a really interesting thing to ponder, even
like a miniseries in the future that kind of bite
sized chunks some of this material. Not only is it

(02:15:19):
going to help us as elder brothers to this younger
generation that's trying to figure out, like you guys, throw
us to the wolves with COVID, with secularism, with going
with the flow, systematic desensitization. We've been frequently based attacked right, culturally, attacked,
subliminally attacked, let as stray a lot of the times,
like the millennials, in my opinion, we were just trying

(02:15:40):
to survive, like the onslaught of what came. It was
really hard to look out for other people. But I
think God's putting it on specifically the ministry that he's
given me our heart to be like, no, we want
to encompass all of it. We're not going to be selective.
We're not going to judge you based on denomination. We're
not going to argue points of like whatever eschatology like it,

(02:16:01):
it's gonna be okay, you know what I mean, Let's
get these certain things right. And so this is a
golden opportunity for three podcasters to like be you know,
two hours into this and really getting into like what
I would consider to be the crux of the issue
experientially to the time slot that we're experiencing with what
we've been given right now, Like we're starting to get

(02:16:24):
to the meat of it in the.

Speaker 6 (02:16:27):
Most beautiful way. M h in my opinion. Yeah. True.

Speaker 13 (02:16:31):
You know, the Bible says that we entertain angels unawares.
I mean, like that could that be spiritually? Could that
be physically? Could it be both? I mean, like I mean,
like why are we limiting? It seems that we live
in a world that like really wants to limit, you know,
the functionality and the capability of our creator God, and

(02:16:52):
we limit him into our own understanding. So again, I
think this is human nature. And I think this probably happened,
you know, at the fall, you know, in the garden.
And I just want to say as we kind of
wind down that you know, we talk about failing forward
quite a bit, you know, no different than what Rod
says that we all get something a little bit wrong

(02:17:14):
and a little bit something right, you know, but also
trying to create a new standard and hopefully for the listeners.

Speaker 6 (02:17:21):
I think this is the perfect.

Speaker 13 (02:17:23):
Example and representation of taking a deeper dive. Having somebody
like Basle from Canary Cry Radio and Canary Cry News Talk.
I mean, yeah, we used him. We used him to
go on these rants because he's somebody that serves as
a really really good example on breaking things down and
getting down to the meat and just like you know,

(02:17:45):
not exploring the million mixed messages, but focusing on one topic,
praying about it, really trying to understand it and breaking
it down, you know. So Basil, I just want to
say thank you, man. I love I could hear you
talk for hours a day. Oh wait, I do christ
News Talk, So I'm very grateful for that.

Speaker 6 (02:18:06):
Brother.

Speaker 12 (02:18:07):
Well, thank you, man, I really appreciate that. Yeah, you
guys can bring me on, use me to fill airtime
whenever you want. This is really a wonderful opportunity you
guys have here, and you're both extremely thoughtful and also patient.
So thank you, thank you for that.

Speaker 10 (02:18:25):
Yeah, I just want to once again the first time Basil.
You came on it was like early one hundreds, you know,
and we had this like crazy, long, kind of harmonious conversation.

Speaker 6 (02:18:36):
I got to hear about the magical tooth.

Speaker 10 (02:18:39):
That grew, you know, just like all this cool stuff, man,
and really got to explore, you know, the questions that
that I have wondered over the years, like, Man, I
want to ask Bazzle this. And highlighting the clubhouses that
you're doing during the week, I think that's super awesome
for them. Lenny must've seed listeners who are unaware of
what you're doing to go and pop in and say

(02:19:01):
hi and ask some questions and get engaged with that
because I have nothing but private and public compliments for that.
That's one thing that I try to like exercises. Man,
if I'm going to praise you on private, I'll praise
you in public. Like I'm not going to separate those two.
And you guys, you and Gon specifically, and you've heard this,

(02:19:22):
and I'm not saying this to puff you up, man,
I'm saying this because what more of an opportunity than
the present opportunity to once again say, Man, I've stood
on your shoulders. I've seen the work that you guys
have put into it as just a guy from the
distance looking and I really never thought that I would
be somebody with a show engaging with you and collaborating

(02:19:46):
and talking with you and getting to know you. And
it comes with humility, and it also comes with like
this confidence of my God, like you can cover the chasm,
forest Lord, you can lead us by the power of
your spirit into places that were not imaginative prior. You

(02:20:06):
can open doors that nobody else can close. And this
is just the beginning. So in humility, man, I just
want to honor you and just bless you, and just say,
everybody on the MMS, leave that five star rating and
written review if you're able to on Canary Cry Radio
and Canary Cry News Talk, because these guys have blazed
a trail. They've went into places that have been uncomfortable

(02:20:28):
before it was cool to have these conversations.

Speaker 6 (02:20:31):
They have opened the.

Speaker 10 (02:20:32):
Door to humility and willing to help. If it only
reached one person, I'm one person here. We are the
millennial mustard Seed. Whoever would have thought that we'd even
be more than thirty downloads a week, Like whoever would
have thought we'd reach Aaron and then eron like Aaron's
life would change and now he's a part of the team.

Speaker 6 (02:20:52):
Man.

Speaker 10 (02:20:53):
So I'm one person, Basil, and through one person you,
you've reached a lot more. So it's the highest honor
I can give you is beating up the microphone and
spitting on my computer screen at the end of this
episode with my excitement about just being.

Speaker 6 (02:21:08):
Being able to call you but eternal best buddy, Basile.

Speaker 10 (02:21:11):
So really appreciate your time, man, and Baz, I'm going
to give it to you for the last word. Just
land this thing as you see fit and wow, humbling.

Speaker 12 (02:21:20):
Yeah, well, God, bless you, buddy, Thank you so much,
and yes it's I'll say this. You are welcome to
compliment me and puff me up as much as you
feel the Holy Spirit leads you to, because certainly, as
I'm sure you know, and the more you do it,
the more you find out it does become an incredibly
deflating experience. Sometimes it's just part of the business, and

(02:21:43):
you know, to be honest, there's nothing else that I'd
rather be doing. But like like any pursuit worth doing,
it has has its ups and downs, it has its challenges,
and not just again literally challenges or technical challenges, although
those are a plenty, but the challenges that come with

(02:22:08):
existing as a human being. You know, when it comes
to doing things like we do, where the deliverable is
what God is doing in our lives, what God has
brought us through. Every sentence, every rant, every moment of
airtime is a is a consequence or a product of

(02:22:34):
not some time in school, not some moments in study,
but is a.

Speaker 9 (02:22:42):
Total product of.

Speaker 12 (02:22:45):
Everything, every resource that God has put in to making
us who we are. And that does go all the
way down to the weird little bacteria floating around doing
their jobs. It goes to the quiet moments at night
when the only voice we can hear is our own

(02:23:06):
or the Holy Spirit, and hopefully it's the latter. It's
every off air moment with our families and our friends,
and the troubling things, the time we spend on customer
service calls. You know, it's the biggest blessing in the
world to know that every second that we endure of

(02:23:31):
this life is God doing a good work in us,
and then to have the ability to mobilize that work
in sort of a tangible way like this for all
of its ups and downs, you know, it's an incredibly
humbling experience, and you know, going through it is one thing,
and watching someone else do it as well is a

(02:23:54):
total other thing. It's been such a pleasure to sort
of watch you guys persist and survive and continue with
the positivity and keeping the main thing the main thing,
because I'm grateful. I'm not going through it on your

(02:24:17):
you know, on your side, but I know exactly what
it's like and what it takes. So it really is
a pleasure to see you guys doing what you're doing
here and putting such a wonderful collection of people and
projects together. It's it's I told you on the phone
the other day. I mean, I do admire that about

(02:24:38):
you guys. You've got You've got a fire in you
that is contagious, and so I want to thank you
guys for that. And yeah, you know, this world wants
to I think one of the biggest systems going on
in the world right now. And I think this counts

(02:24:59):
for people who have been believers forever, it counts for
people who are just coming to the knowledge of the
spiritual reality of God, and it counts for the people
who are not yet there that the system we're in
much like to speak metaphorically or literally, much like the

(02:25:20):
banking system, which you know inherently channels us into a
set of behaviors and a set of values, and a
set of habits and a set of rubrics for how
to survive and pay your rent and save and invest
in whatever. It's really just playing in the system they built.
There's nothing natural about it, and we only play that

(02:25:44):
game because they have made it so we don't have
any other choice. I mean, we have other choices, but
those ones, of course, don't seem very pleasurable. You know,
if we eschew all material concern and don't pay our
bills and go live in the woods in a cardboard box,
it's certainly an option, but there's no system built around that.

(02:26:05):
And in the same way, they've built a system around
us that channels us. It funnels even the most conscious
and reverence and mindful and you know, all even the

(02:26:31):
best of us, if you could even say a thing,
if you could say such a thing, it has us
herded back to that image of the herding of the sheep,
where we're within the boundaries of a pen that's been
laid out for us. When it comes to talking about

(02:26:51):
spiritual things, literal things, material things. They've dictated the rules
of the endless, never ending conversation about you know, well,
is the Bible literal or is it not literal? There
are angels real or invisible?

Speaker 6 (02:27:07):
Well?

Speaker 12 (02:27:07):
What about this is that You'll notice that all the
options are ones that answer the questions asked by the
credentialed priests of materialism, of scientism. And I think, honestly,
it's because they know that they're they're not really the

(02:27:30):
most important things. It's not really I mean, it's not
really the thing that develops a closer than close relationship
with the creator of the universe. Whether you think the
Bible is entirely literal or just a little bit literal,

(02:27:52):
or this or that. When it comes down to it,
that is not necessarily a salvation issue. I mean, of course,
we can again get trapped in that conversation and say
all the reasons why it may lead to somebody blah
blah blah. But the fact of the matter is we're

(02:28:16):
all breaking out and in almost every manifestation, in every
instantiation of the paradigm laid out for us that we
have been we didn't even know there was anything outside
of the paradigm.

Speaker 9 (02:28:34):
We haven't even.

Speaker 12 (02:28:34):
Known that there was any possibility that we've been tricked
into thinking that literal, metaphorical, physical, spiritual has to be
one or the other. Even the definitions of those very things,
they're just given to us to again, not just control
the information. It's not about necessarily controlling what we know

(02:28:56):
or what we don't know. They tried that very passionately,
and they found out that it's a not very easy
to do to control information. Ideas, they can't be killed,
and the second they're out they stay there forever. But
what they can do is control our emotions, control our

(02:29:19):
spiritual state, and they can hurt us around and getting
caught in these more or less meaningless distinction distinctions. And
you know, we know that some of the most important
things in the universe are happening in fellowship and are
happening in synthesis. God the Father, God the Son, God,

(02:29:42):
the Holy Spirit, God the Holy Spirit, both separate yet
eternally one, referring to one another, obedient to one another,
yet total union. And we think about, well, what are
we are? We mind, body or spirit? Which one's important? Well,

(02:30:06):
if we take a second to step out real quick
of the bounds, it becomes eternally obvious that our mind
and our body and our spirit, while maybe separate things,
are in constant contact, constant communication, and essentially one together.

(02:30:30):
And I think that's a very empowering thing to step
outside of a paradigm that wants to split you up.
It wants to split you up into various pieces, or
it wants to say you're just body, or it wants
to say you're just one of them, when the fact

(02:30:50):
is the very nature of reality that we see on
the highest levels, the nature of God himself, is this
synthesis of various parts that are all so closely tied
in union. To even distinguish between them is more of
a practice in rhetoric than it is in reality. And

(02:31:14):
so I think in the next three undred and sixty
five days, as the robots are taking over, as people
start marrying their ais, as jobs become useless or nonexistence,
as society as we know it changes in ways that

(02:31:37):
at the very best we might be able to compare
them to a set of science fiction movies, when in
reality we have no way of knowing exactly what it's
going to be like. Stepping outside of the paradigm that
they try to keep us in as believers, as individuals,

(02:31:57):
even as individuals in fellowship. As Christ said in Fellowship,
the Church is one body, as we've gone over so
many times before, and is so important. But it's about
that synthesis of many coming together working as one, like
the trillions of cells in your body, each with their

(02:32:20):
own little motivations and their own little jobs, whatever various
versions of consciousness they might be experiencing, or if they're
experiencing at all, it's quite obvious they're a little bit
more than robots, in the same way that each one
of us is a little bit more than robots. And
the world is going to be completely different in three
hundred and sixty five days. I have no way to

(02:32:42):
tell you what it is, but the only way to
survive is going to be staying rooted and grounded, not
in the paradigm or the conversations that have torn us
apart for so many generations, that somehow keep getting brought up.
The amount of times where some most important conversation podcast, debate,

(02:33:06):
well blah book whatever, trying to figure out is something
literal or not literal. Can we just take a second
and realize that the nature of reality is God. There
is no there is no being without the Being who

(02:33:28):
made being b We only is because He is, and
that goes for every single aspect of our life. And
it might sound kind of, you know, a little bit heady,
might sound a little bit mystical or something. It might sound,
but these are the times that we're in. We're done

(02:33:49):
playing by the by the rules of the establishment, of
the credentials of the experts. And so if you're out
there having conversations that take a step towards the line,
I'm excited to see it happen. And I can't wait
to see what this next generation does. Honestly, at this point,

(02:34:13):
I've spent a lot of time shaking in my boots
about what the future holds the near future. Spend a
lot of time, a lot of energy, a lot of
airtime postulating, theorizing, dissecting, and analyzing how spooky the future
is going to be, but in the end kind of

(02:34:33):
looking forward to it, kind of looking forward to whatever
God has in store not just for me personally, but
also for me personally, but for the body as a whole.
And you guys are a great part of that. And
everybody listening out there, and he has to consider themselves
a part of that. You're not just listening to a podcast.

Speaker 9 (02:34:52):
You're out there.

Speaker 12 (02:34:53):
You're probably at work, mowing the lawn, washing the dishes,
doing the laundry, in the car with the kids. You
should be playing this in the car with the kids.
Whatever it is. But you are fully a part of
the most important body on earth right now, and that
is the Fellowship of Believers and the Church that holds

(02:35:15):
Christ as it's rocked, and we build our foundation on.
And so everybody start doing it, and I'll encourage everybody
listening to do just as I encouraged everybody else to
do for many years, which is, hey, if doing a podcast,
having conversations, doing this sort of thing, by something the
Lord put on your heart, just do it. Just start

(02:35:38):
doing it. Just reach out if anybody needs help or whatever.
The obstacles have never been less significant to doing it.
And if the Lord calls you to it, it doesn't
matter who's listening, doesn't matter how many downloads you get,
doesn't matter this or that, because it's really what other

(02:36:00):
choice do you have. You're not going to do it.
God's telling you to do something. You're not going to
do it just because what, because you don't want it,
you don't have time, whatever. Don't mean to bully anybody,
but we're running out of time. We're running out of
time altogether, the time to do whatever you want to
do in your life, whatever you feel like God's.

Speaker 9 (02:36:20):
Calling you to do. Now.

Speaker 12 (02:36:21):
I'm just telling you right now as a guy who's
been doing it for thirteen years, now now is the
time to do it. There is no next year. Your
options will start to become thinner and thinner now. God,
of course always says the perfect path for you, and
he can lift you up in any direction he wants.
But I'm telling you things are not going to be

(02:36:43):
the same, and we need you to do what God
is calling you to do. So thank you guys for
letting me go on one last rant there. But I
think if nothing else, there is a crowd of people,
there are believers that God is empowering and in firing,
and there's there's absolutely no reason not to answer the call.

Speaker 16 (02:37:08):
Uh.

Speaker 12 (02:37:09):
I will say, let your expectations be His expectations, and
things start making a lot more sense in the world.

Speaker 9 (02:37:19):
I think that's it.

Speaker 10 (02:37:21):
Songs one oh five, Oh Give Thanks unto the Lord.
Call upon his knee, make known his deeds among the people,
sing unto him, Sing psalms unto him. Take ye all
of his wondrous works. Glory ye his holy name. Let
the heart of them rejoice that seek the Lord. Seek

(02:37:44):
the Lord and his strength, Seek his face forevermore. Remember
his marvelous works that he hath done, his wonders, and
the judgments of his mouth.

Speaker 6 (02:37:54):
Oh, ye seed of.

Speaker 10 (02:37:55):
Abraham his servant, Ye, children of Jacob, his cho He
is the Lord, our God. His judgments are all in
the earth, and he has remembered his covenant forever, the
word which he commanded to a thousand generations.

Speaker 6 (02:38:14):
Well that's it. That's the show, you guys. You know
the deal.

Speaker 10 (02:38:18):
Share this one far and wide. It makes a difference.
You're helping us find one more person that's.

Speaker 6 (02:38:25):
Just like us. Coming to you from southeastern Pennsylvania.

Speaker 15 (02:38:29):
God bless and goodbye.

Speaker 3 (02:38:58):
I trusted in your word.

Speaker 11 (02:38:59):
Many trubt nights, all that darkness, thought I lost my sight,
the devil shooting shots, shudder.

Speaker 3 (02:39:05):
In my life. But I'm covered by the blood.

Speaker 6 (02:39:08):
So I'm gonna be all right.

Speaker 10 (02:39:09):
I'm down one, but I love to howber Baron Ones.

Speaker 11 (02:39:14):
But his love's to I'm seeking his face, feeling the grace.
I'm running this race for eternity space. I need more love,
less tis, no more drugs, less fizz, the stress, real,
the tactit.

Speaker 6 (02:39:26):
I'm washing over everything up.

Speaker 3 (02:39:28):
In my mind. Come over. The devil has a feel
you out of time. Look, God just said, you live
is me, Little God. He said, you know he's seeing
me too. You know see me, cause these emas get
to chasing there.

Speaker 11 (02:39:46):
For me, generational iniquity is everything I see when I
look in my family pictures, my favory pictures.

Speaker 3 (02:39:53):
Think got me crying like I'm just in the devil
and I'm praying. It's real hard in the spirit. I'm
really feeling the ho already is coming near me. I'm like, Lord, God,
you the way, the truth of life.

Speaker 11 (02:40:04):
Don't never believe me, just try and really need you tonight.

Speaker 3 (02:40:07):
I'm like, Lord God, you put it on mad.

Speaker 11 (02:40:10):
You're moving in and through me, and you're erasing out
the dark. You're the way, You're the truth, You're the life.

Speaker 3 (02:40:20):
Love God, you set Youlieve me, Little God. You said,
you know we're seeing it. You know what I'm seeing
this love God, you set you believe me. Little God,
you said you know he's seeing it. You know what
I'm seeing it? Yeah, you just the fight to sentence me.

Speaker 16 (02:40:45):
I pray you no the penalties At times I ain't
remember they think about the penalty, decide its little heart
brought to bet your cause and ignaty Lord, you know
the truth. Yeah, despite who we protect the thing. I'm
giving you the in the mix. This is what it
looked like. And this is why it took Christ what gave.

Speaker 3 (02:41:00):
A crooked life?

Speaker 11 (02:41:01):
Or keep me for my idol words every word.

Speaker 3 (02:41:03):
I've took life.

Speaker 6 (02:41:04):
Sometimes I should have stayed. You know, for every step
I took.

Speaker 1 (02:41:06):
Flight.

Speaker 3 (02:41:07):
My God ain't.

Speaker 16 (02:41:07):
Desert me, castized, emergency, baptized and burst me.

Speaker 6 (02:41:11):
Yet I should have died. So that's loud and curtas track.

Speaker 15 (02:41:14):
Guy.

Speaker 16 (02:41:15):
They cursed, capsized my purpose.

Speaker 3 (02:41:17):
Yet I'm still alive. Look, God just said you never
leave me.

Speaker 6 (02:41:22):
Love.

Speaker 3 (02:41:22):
God said, you know we're seeing me through. You know
we see me through. Look God, you said you never
leave me. Look God, you said you know we're seeing
me through. You know we're seeing me through.

Speaker 1 (02:41:47):
Hi, everybody, it's me Cinderella Acts. I'm just listening to
the Fringe.

Speaker 2 (02:41:52):
Radio Network while I clean these chimneys from my cast livers.

Speaker 1 (02:42:00):
Anyway, so Chad White, the Fringe cowboy, I mean, he's
like he took a leave of absence or whatever, and.

Speaker 2 (02:42:08):
So the guys asked me to do the network ID.
So you're listening to the Fringe Radio Network. I know,
I was gonna say it, fringe radionetwork dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:42:23):
What oh chat? Oh yeah, do you have the app?

Speaker 2 (02:42:27):
It's the best way to listen to the Fringe Radio Network.

Speaker 1 (02:42:31):
I mean it's so great.

Speaker 2 (02:42:32):
I mean it's clean and simple, and you have all
the shows, all the episodes, and you have the live chat,
and it's it's safe and it won't hurt your phone,
and it sounds beautiful and it won't track you or
trace you and you don't have to log in to
use it. How do you get it fringeradionetwork dot com

(02:42:56):
right at the top of the page.

Speaker 1 (02:42:58):
So anyway, so we're just you can go.

Speaker 2 (02:43:00):
Back to cleaning these chimneys and listening to the Fringe
Radio Network. And uh so I guess you know, I mean,
I guess we're listening together.

Speaker 1 (02:43:09):
So I mean, I know, I mean, well, I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (02:43:12):
Guess you might be listening to a different episode or whatever,
or or maybe maybe you're listening maybe you're listening to it,
like at a different time than we are.

Speaker 1 (02:43:23):
But I mean, well, I mean, if you accidentally.

Speaker 2 (02:43:26):
Just downloaded this, no, I guess you'd be Okay, I'm rambling. Okay, Okay,
you're listening to the Fringe radio network fringeradionetwork dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:43:40):
There are you happy?

Speaker 2 (02:43:42):
Okay, let's clean these chimneys.

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