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Speaker 1 (00:04):
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Speaker 3 (00:45):
Hey, keV, let's follow this trail over you. This looks
like there might be something waiting down there.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
All right, Hey, wait a minute, do you hear that? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
I thought it was just me. What the heck is that?
Speaker 4 (01:00):
What that is? Whoa? Do you smell that too?
Speaker 3 (01:04):
That's unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
They looked there, They looked.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Those branches are over over there.
Speaker 4 (01:11):
What the heck is that?
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Holy cow?
Speaker 4 (01:15):
Is that what I think it is? Look at that day?
Speaker 3 (01:19):
Oh my god, it's a freaking sasquatch. Welcome to the Bigfoot,
Terror in the Woods Sightings and Encounters Podcast. I am
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Speaker 2 (02:26):
Can I'm doing great. How about you? Bill?
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Pretty good? We're in for a cool spell in the
next couple of days.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, it's been pretty chilly and wet here in North
Carolina on I guess yesterday it rained. I was out
of the coast and it rained non stop until about
eight o'clock at night. Finally it let up a little bit.
I went walking out to the water, down the road
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to the ocean, and on my way back, I'm walking
down the dark. Nobody's around this time of the year,
and there's a big coyote standing right in front of
me in the dark.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
So what'd you do?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Well? First, it took me a minute, like I'm like,
is there something standing there right in front of me?
Because it was dark, you know, and I just see
this shadow and should I stop walking? And I look
at him and I make a little noise, you know,
like a little whistle, and then he like makes a
right hand turn and just throts off. I was like, oh, yeah,
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you know. The problem is they're usually never alone. No, no,
you know, and one will bother you don't. I don't
think multiple will bother, you know, a human that they're
notorious for attacking pets and stuff.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
Yeah. Now, not to rain on anybody's parade out there,
but I had a report from a bona fide friend
slash listen her from the Pacific Northwest. There was a
bus of young people from a school and they were
going to an area to like a park, you know.
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They took the bus over there a bunch of people.
This poor girl went when they got out of the
bus to sit over on this rock which was next
to the trees, and a pack of coyotes came out
and tore her up on the rock dead, oh, in
front of in front of the other young people that
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were on the school bus with her. And if you
could imagine just being a witness to that or seeing
it happen, these snarling, snapping, ripping, tearing little beasts killing
this girl. But you know, we don't hear about this
stuff around the country, keV. It's like a lot of things, right,
it doesn't make news.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
No, because I have never heard of coyotes attacking a human.
Speaker 3 (05:03):
Yeah, I mean, they're a pack animal and wolves will
do it. They will do it, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well, not to get into the whole origin of coyotes,
but historically they're not a pack animal, but they they
do credit you know, their ability to survive and even thrive,
that they can learn how to be a pack animal,
which is pretty wild, you know.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Right, you know, to take advantage of their numbers and
accomplish the common goal.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
You know exactly, because they used to just eat squirrels
and stuff like that, you know, small voles and mice
and stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
But what kind of like a big fox, Yeah exactly,
you know. But yeah I heard that and I was like,
holy smoke. Yeah, anyways, I got something really cool here today. Actually, KiB,
I have a real short one, and I have this
one which isn't that long either. But this is a
bigfoot account which told to me by a fellow named
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Dennis Fenimore, a hunter and a resident of southwest Washington State,
and this is what he and a friend saw while
on a hunt near what's known as the Qwets River,
southwest Washington State. My buddy Josh and I were working
an area of timber and hunting for deer near Klutschmann's
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Rock and the Quets River. For the two of us,
it's always a day hunt in the woods, beginning before
sunrise and ending before it sets. The season was only
a week old, and we had scored a couple of
decent deer around these parts already. On this particular day,
we were working the woods approximately five hundred yards away
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from the river when we heard what sounded like a
whoop coming from the direction of the river. Both of
us had spent considerable time in the woods on the
h but had never heard such a noise before, so
for us it was unidentifiable. We stayed in our stands
waiting for our prey when we heard the same sound
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coming from the same location again. The forest here is
so thick and gnarly that it was impossible to see
a couple of hundred feet, let alone hundreds of yards,
and the two of us, after exchanging glances, decided to
hold our positions. About an hour had passed when we
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signaled each other to call it quits for the day.
When we got together on the ground, we were both
discussing what the sound could have been and decided to
head over by the river to have a look. My
buddy Josh was under the impression that it could have
been some type of elk call, perhaps from an animal
with a deformity, which would have caused it to sound strange.
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At the time, I thought this was an excellent and
well thought out theory, because honestly, I didn't have a
clue what we heard. What we did know was that
it was loud and couldn't have come from the body
of a small creature. I'd have to say Bill that
about ninety minutes or so had passed since the time
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we had heard the last whoop sound, and we decided
to truck on over in the direction of the sound
to see if we could put some eyes on any
tracks by the river. We scoured the area pretty well
and only saw some deer tracks that looked about a
day or two old. Nothing we were looking at was
very fresh, even from that day. As we made a
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way down to the qwets, Josh was walking in one
direction and I and the other one. Josh said, hey,
check this out. Look at these damn tracks. They're insane.
As I walked over to him, we counted up a
series of some twenty five tracks going along the river's
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edge and back into the timber. But it wasn't that
we had just found tracks. It was the size of
them that blew us away. Immediately we knew we were
looking at what had been tracks left by a Sasquatch.
If I may, Bill, I really feel as though it's
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necessary to say what I'm about to say. We've all
heard the stories and the stuff about men with boards
tied to their feet making tracks for people to find.
The two of us have seen the same shows that
everyone else has seen. But what we were looking at
was fresh, new and real. First of all, this was
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as out in the sticks as you could get, and
where we had nosed our truck in to begin our
walking in for the day was just about the only
entry place for miles. We had to be the only
dudes in here, and if by chance someone else had
come in, we would have been aware of their presence. Secondly,
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who the heck would lay down a set of footprints
in a place where no one else could see them?
Good point, keV, I've made that a hundred times. The
fact that the matter was that the only reason we
had even walked over here was because of the loud noises.
Otherwise we would have walked out of here like we
usually do. So we continued to stand there, examining all
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of these tracks carefully. In some of the prints, we
could see how the foot had flexed with walking on
spots that were both hard and moist, which is another
reason why they couldn't have been made by a board.
These prints showed the flexibility and pliability of a living foot.
From what we could see, this big had been standing
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facing the river at one point and then walked into
the woods. I took three of my own steps to
make up the distance between two of its footprints, which
made this made them somewhere between eight and ten feet apart.
They were directly in line with each other, like a
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tightrope walker. The two of us followed them into the
woods required some distance, starting with the heavy imprints by
the river. When we got into the timber they were
much less visible due to the peat forest floor. We
finally lost track and went back to the river. Upon
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further examination, we saw both left and right tracks, which
was indicated by a turned in great tow on each
of the feet. Several of the prints were absolutely perfect.
In one of them, we could even identify creases running
along the beast's foot in two different directions at two
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different angles. I held my rifle above one of the prints,
knowing that my barrel was thirty inches, and estimated the
prints at approximately twenty two inches in lent at about
eight to ten inches wide behind the fat and stubby toes.
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I should also mention to you that whatever left these
had some bulk to it. When the Prince started to
go into the forest, our boots left virtually no imprint,
and I weighed two seventy five at six foot four.
Whatever the whatever had left these sunk into the same
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ground as me, but had left a print about a
half inch deep. I don't know how that works out
mathematically or anything like that, but two hundred and seventy
five pounds left zero imprint as opposed to these half
inch depressions. This thing was one big son of a bitch.
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I can tell you that much for sure. We couldn't
come back the next day because of work, and by
the time we would have had a chance to do so,
a lot of rain had fallen. So that was the
end of it. The prince we saw on that day,
Bill had made believers out of both of us that
these critters are real and alive in Washington State. Little
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evidentiary fine, Kevin, Yeah, but a really good one, just incredible. Yeah,
a lot of detail too. And the whoop. He told
me that he wasn't really familiar with the whoop as
being a sound attributed to bigfoot. But after the fact,
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when he described to other people what they had heard, oh,
they said, you know, like, oh, that's the whoop from
a big foot, you know. So then he he ascribed
what they had heard to being a bigfoot, and then
of course following it up with these monstrous tracks twenty
two inch foot what do he say, eight to ten
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inches wide behind the toes. That is a big soul man.
Speaker 2 (14:23):
No, that's crazy, unbelievable, I mean really crazy. And you
know the fact that two hundred and seventy five pound
guy is making no track and then they have these
tracks that are half inch deep with that size foot right,
So yeah, over that area had to sink down a
half inch? Is like, man, the thing it weighed a lot.
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Let's just say that.
Speaker 3 (14:48):
Yeah, who knows? I mean, if he's two seventy five
and left nothing right and then you got a half inch,
I don't know what it would take to push down
a half inch when close to the three hundred did
nothing exactly, six hundred eight hundred, Who the heck knows?
You know, we have no way in.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
Own way and no one exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
Now, let me just jump on this other one. Believe
it or not, Folks, this sighting and we could all
take it for what it is came from Peru. So
George Tinsley and his wife Page shared this following sing
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siding with me, and this is what they encountered in
what we would call, folks, an improbable location. Bill, My
wife and I have had this hidden away for a
long time, unwilling to share or speak about it since
it occurred. But like so many things, when we get
a little long in the tooth, we decided it doesn't
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matter who thinks what about us anymore to shame my friend,
especially at this stage of life. Page and I were
travelers of exotic places, both school teachers and in the
same school district until our retirement. I'm eighty eight and
if you ask Paige, she would just say she's younger
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than me. Ha. As school teachers, we were fortunate enough
enough to have summers off, enabling us to go to
some very unusual and sometimes off the beaten track destinations.
Some of the many places we've been alike the likes
of Cambodia, Iceland, Paraguay, Egypt, Vietnam, just to name a few,
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with the location of this sighting being Peru. We've been
to more than thirty countries, and we had gone to
Peru also, amongst other things, to explore the ruins of
pikilcta lacta. Pikil loctas say that five times, say it once,
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let alone three times best, an ancient site of previous
human activity in the country. We drove into this area,
which quite frankly is in the middle of nowhere, with
a small group of travelers like ourselves. No more than
twenty or so people combined were in the area with
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us today. We were there after the guide had given
us the nickel tour. All the group members had gone
their separate ways, some climbing to higher elevations in the
ruins site, while others walked the old stone paths and
the surrounding countryside. None of these ruins had roofs left
on them, undoubtedly there at their construction, made from wood
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and perhaps straw, long since having disintegrated over time. The
walls which lead you here and there like a maze,
were made from red stones, with timbers placed here and
there for strengthening, much like retaining walls are built today
for holding back dirt hillside. After having walked most of
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the ruin site for hours, Page and I decided to
take a stroll down this old red stone pathway which
led out into the valley that the ruins overlooked. One
could assume that when these rooms were inhabited, this was
likely fertile land for growing crops for food that was
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now virtually barren. So there we were standing overlooking the valley,
particularly at several rounded mounds of rocks left behind by
those who perhaps had plans through a future construction before
whatever happened caused them to abandon this city. The valley
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was sparse, covered in short grass, with a few tiny
bushes so few that they are barely worth mentioning. Rolling
hillsides formed the valley's boundaries, which with the largest of
these hills visible many miles away, standing there just the
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two of us at the time. We were looking at
the beautiful sky above us and out over the valley
surrounding us, when we noticed a figure walking along the
top of this hill. It was solid and dark in color,
more than likely either black or dark brown, appearing to
be quite large. If you've never been to Peru, the
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only tall person you will encounter has either moved here
from another country or is a tourist. So the Peruvians
are small, both men and women, generally dressed in colorful
attire and hats, such is their customary dress. Whatever this
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was casually walked along the crest of this hill and
began to descend into the valley to our east. I
turned around to see if who, if anyone, was behind us,
possibly looking at the same thing, and seeing Salvatore, the guide,
I waved at him to come over. When he reached us,
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we immediately asked him as we pointed, what is that?
The shock in his eyes and expression was instantaneous, as
he said, the Cape Lobo, which I knew meant the
wolf's cape.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
He said.
Speaker 3 (20:33):
It is also known as the fetid animal, the roaring
animal by many locals, insisting it was not good to
see or to be there. He was writened by what
he saw and named it without hesitation. He was not
even attempting to figure out whether it was a man.
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Everyone gathered and we left the sight. As the years passed,
Page and I shared that what we had seen with
each other, that what we had must have seen was
a bigfoot. Perhaps in Peru. It was enormous and strode
along much in the same way as depicted here in
North America, long steps and pendulum like swinging of the arms.
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This event had catapulted the two of us into the
Pacific Northwest region over the years where up until this
point where we had stopped where, up until the point
where we had stopped hiking, we had seen nothing for ourselves.
Very interesting ha keV.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Yeah, I never heard of anything down in Peru.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Now and the guide called it the cape Lobo, which
I knew, which he said he knew meant Wolfe's cape,
and he also said it was known by the as
the fetid animal and the roar animal. Now, fetid I
think kind of means like decay or stink, right, it
could be. And what we associate the bigfoot also with
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a stink.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
Definitely a stack. I don't understand the wolf's cape though,
but who knows.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Yeah, cape Lobo, the wolf's cape. Who knows, Maybe a
descriptive aspect of like looking like it was draped in
long fire or something.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
Yeah, who knows?
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, very interesting. Three three different names there though, Wolf's cape,
the fetid animal, and the roaring animal.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
And walking along on a ridge, I was reminded me
of the old Marble mountain siding here in the United States.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
Right, yeah, Now, this guy had told me these hills
were like maybe one hundred feet one hundred and fifty
feet tall. Okay, they were like large rolling mounds of
grass rounded. These were that mountainous you know, craggy looking
rocky places you okay, so interesting how from Peru?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Very cool?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Good stuff?
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Yep, very cool. So what do you got, bro?
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Cool? Well, we are going to talk about something creepy,
which I know you're gonna like. We can get a
little creep on and this idea I never heard of before,
but it came in from you.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Yes, suh.
Speaker 2 (23:27):
So this is the Beast of Gavadon. And I don't
know if I'm pronouncing it correctly. My French is terrible.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
And the French would be glad to tell you if
French is terrible.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
But this is a pretty pretty wild old story with
a lot of evidence around it, and you know, I
never heard of it before.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
So h.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
So the Beast of Govon, Gavdon and Gavdon is a
place down in southern France, you know, north of the coastline,
north of places like Nice and right in the edge
of the Alps, you know, so if you followed the
Alps from there, you'd go over into Switzerland, for example.
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So it looks pretty rural, and you can imagine that
it would certainly be very rural back in seventeen sixty
four when these sightings and attacks began.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Yeah, you'd probably be lucky if you found a couple
of little shanty houses at that point in time.
Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, I mean, they're definitely villages around there. But so
these attacks, and they were brutal attacks by this animal
that became known as the Beast of Gavadon started out
in seventeen sixty four and ran all the way into
seventeen sixty seven. Wow, And they covered an area that
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was like fifty by fifty miles, so you know, they
talk about it as maybe being more than one beast.
But after they killed the beast, you know, three years
into this journey, the attacks stopped, so that lends them
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to think it was just one animal responsible.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
One singular creature in this fifty mile let's call it
a radius, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
But it covered a large area, and there were brutal attacks,
hundreds of them, okay, and a lot of deaths as well,
which we'll get into. But the witnesses that saw and
there were lots of witnesses that saw this beast, they
described it as having a russet color with dark streaks
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or stripes, and a dark brown stripe down the center
of its back. And it looked a bit like a wolf,
but it was much bigger than a wolf, and the
tail was longer than a wolf's. And get this, it
ended in a tuft kind of like a lion's tail.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yes, yes, yes, sir, this u of straining my brain here,
you know, there is an animal that is in Australia
that the description you just gave fits. I'm trying to
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think of the name of it, but your description just
brought it right into my mind's eye, and it's it
is a large, you know, hound or like a hyena
type beasts.
Speaker 2 (26:48):
Not you're not thinking of a kangaroo or a koala bear.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
No, not exactly. A fiendish koala attacked several homesteaders this weekend.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
It lured them in with its soft, cuddly nature.
Speaker 3 (27:12):
Right, and then told them to shreds. Witnesses report.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
But this beast, back to the beast was said to
attack with very large teeth and claws, and it had
an amazing ability to leap. Oh yeah, so it's a
little mysterious too as well, or very mysterious. I guess
you could say.
Speaker 3 (27:38):
I'm telling you, man, I don't want that thing leaping
on me.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Yeah. And they did a study of all of the
accounts and stuff like that going back here to nineteen
eighty seven, so you know, a couple of hundred years
after the attacks, and they did a study and research
on it, and they said there were about two hundred
and ten attacks that resulted in one hundred and thirteen deaths.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (28:07):
And of the one hundred and thirteen, ninety eight of
the victims that were killed were partly eaten. Wow, so
this is vicious critter.
Speaker 3 (28:19):
Oh macawel, can you imagine?
Speaker 2 (28:22):
No? And it's like, you know, it feels a little
bit like werewolf stories and stuff like that, because they
say the victims were often killed by having their throats
torn out.
Speaker 3 (28:35):
Oh my god, I mean, just so this is legit.
This is this is an animal that was witnessed, was
around and get shot dead. Any discussion of anything around
the scene of the shooting, who did it or who
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they did it?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, so let me go ahead.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I don't mean to interrupt you. My mind's just spinning.
Speaker 2 (29:03):
There, yeh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So you know, but
they tried to kill it for a long time. So
it was around for three years and of course killed
a lot of people, right, and the King of France
put out like a bounty, you know, for lack of
a better description, and hired some people to go and
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find and kill this thing. And everybody was coming up short.
And there were rumors of people shooting directly at this
animal and not being able to kill it.
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (29:34):
Yeah, so you know, there's a little bit of evilness
going on, and to the extent that on thirty first
of December in seventeen sixty four, the bishop called for
prayers and tenants. So you know, it became known as
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the Commandment of the Bishop of Mende, and all the
priests and dioceses had to announce it to their faithful
And you know, basically, in this long written text, the
bishop described the beast as the as a scourge sent
by God to punish men for their sins, and he
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quoted Saint Augustine in evoking the justice of God as
well as the Bible and the divine threats uttered by Moses,
you know, and he quotes, I will arm the teeth
of wild beasts against them.
Speaker 3 (30:34):
So maybe he was aware of the local society taking
a turn for the worse at the time, and it
kind of came to him that this could be a
penalty shot.
Speaker 2 (30:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:49):
Yeah, keV. What about the size of this thing? Any
description to the height of the back or the length
of it or anything.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Yeah, I mean they talk about it as being about
three feet tall and about six feet long. I assume
six feet long without the tail. Yeah, that's pretty big,
pretty big, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
You know, it kind of reminds me of a a
dire wolf, right, yes.
Speaker 2 (31:15):
Yeah, you know, and it sounds like maybe it was
a dire wolf in fact, you know.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Yeah, three feet three feet tall is no little beast,
yeap and six foot long body without a tail. That's
pretty hefty. Yeah, yeah, you know, and I'm sure it
could run like the wind. This is a full legged.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Creature, cure, full legged creature. There's pictures of it too,
like sketches of it from back then. No, no photographs
of course back then. And it was big and definitely
wolf like you know, of course, a very large mouth,
you know what I mean, and a little weird looking too,
compared to a typical wolf. That's the best way I
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could describe it. I don't know if that was due
to the weird artists that's true, or something else. But
you know, he asked about when it was killed and
who killed it, so you know it was killed in
seventeen sixty seven and it marked the end of the
attacks after they killed this beast, and it was killed
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by a local hunter named Jean Chastell, and he shot
it on the slopes of Mont Mouchett and that that
was an organized hunt to go out and find this
beast on June nineteenth of seventeen sixty seven. Wow.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
So it's like the townspeople hunted for Frankenstein exactly. You know,
we got to get it, and we're going to get
it today.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Yep, wow, yep.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
And he got it. He got a little bit of
a bounty for that. And then it's interesting but a
little unclear in the stuff I read about it. You know,
they took the body of this creature and brought it
across the country, you know, basically like into Paris, you know,
to show that they had caught this thing that was
responsible for so many deaths.
Speaker 3 (33:11):
Well, so it became like a show piece or conversation.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
But apparently, you know, they didn't preserve it too well.
So they talk a lot. A lot of stuff that's
written about it talks about the stench.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
You know. Yeah, now you say the guy, you say
the guy got a bounty, you mean, like a roll
of payper.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Tells exactly because.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Of the the stag. Yeah, that thing stag.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Exactly was exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
The beast of Gala.
Speaker 2 (33:49):
But I mean, could you imagine this thing ripping apart
that many people and partially eating nearly a hundred.
Speaker 3 (33:57):
Now, I wonder why that would be unless at the
time and in the area, there wasn't enough big game
for to tackle.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
Well, they do say, Like I was also researching how
much of a problem were general wolf attacks back then, right,
And I knew in Europe there were a lot of
wolf attacks back in the seventeen hundred. It's like it
was a real problem, right, because it was super rural
and certainly this sounds like it was a super rural place.
So you know, wolves didn't have enough to eat, and
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you know, getting back to you know, you talking about
me running into the big coyote yesterday walking down the street.
You know, if they were hungry and they were bold,
they would vacuum.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah. You know, Carrie, something what you're walking around at Kevin?
I mean, yeah, yeah, you know anything big bowie knife, nice,
big hefty walking stick? Yeah, how about a nine millimeter
that's fine, Okay, I'm all for it, But I don't
know if it's cool to walk around the neighborhood in
North Carolina would have side on.
Speaker 2 (35:07):
It's encouraged, it's encouraged.
Speaker 3 (35:09):
Well, there you have it. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. With me,
I'd be carrying the side on the club and like
a nine inch Italian stiletto and the bowie knife. Yeah,
and the booie knife.
Speaker 2 (35:23):
Well, you know, so you could cut it up when
you were done.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Yeah. Yeah, filet of Kyo to anyone. Wow.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
Yeah, pretty cool. Now, Now, where did you hear about
that one? Bill? If you remember?
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Uh, I don't, you know, I'm always I'm always snooping
around and reading articles. And by the way, how did
you like that latest video footage of that bigfoot running
on the side of the mountain.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I got to think that people are spending time doing
this stuff now hoping for something. Maybe it's just like
a hobby almost, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
So we've had a couple of that one in the
snow we dissected. Yeah, that was pretty incredible. And this
looked like a similar mountain, and who knows, it might
have been the same mountain but with no snow on it.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Yea, And that's what I was going to ask you.
I didn't hear where it was?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Yeah, I didn't either. It was nondescript, and you know,
I got a feeling like some of these people don't
want to give it up because you know, they don't
just want want a lot of schmows hanging around where
they hang, you know, could be looking around, you know.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
Interesting footage, keV. I mean, you know, and look, we've
talked about this before in this day of AI now
and cgh. It's hard not to think was this hoaxed?
But I'd hate to go down that road because you know,
(37:10):
in the future you could easily just say, oh, that
was a hoax, and that was a hoax. That was
a hoax, you know, And I don't want to go
there because there's still legit stuff being seen and sighted
and it's just too easy.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah. Well, as you know, Bill, that's one of my
biggest things that I'm disappointed with Bigfoot in general, is
that there's so many hoaxters out there.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah. Yeah, but in the midst.
Speaker 2 (37:41):
There's some real stuff there.
Speaker 3 (37:43):
Well. I told you about my friend Dave the other
day on the the logging site in the middle of
the night here and what he described as a banshee
scream followed by a couple of whoops at close proximity
to him, right inside the tree line. Yeah, and that
(38:04):
was no hoax. Dave is no bs artist. Whatever was
there was legit and knew they were there, right, So wow, keV.
So what do we have in our listener mail?
Speaker 2 (38:18):
Yeah, we got some great listener mail folks. Thanks to
everybody for writing in. We're going to cover one of
them today. Running a little short on time, but it's
a good one from Callan from Oregon, and he writes
in your show introduced me to the world of podcasts
in twenty twenty when I had COVID and could not
(38:40):
sleep at all, of course a long time ago, with
all that Shenanigan's going on, it was the strangest thing
and I needed something in my ears at the wee
hours of each night. And he didn't write this, but
I figured, you know, and he figured if we couldn't
put him to sleep, nobody could put him this stuff.
(39:00):
I write that part, But what he really did, right
was so I listened to your podcast. I've written you before,
so I know you. I know that you read that.
I grew up in Eugene or again fascinated by Bigfoot.
So now you have introduced me to the ability to
hear people speak of it. Since then, I've subscribed to
(39:22):
numerous other podcasts simply to satiate what became a ravenous
appetite for the subject. There are some really good ones
out there, including Cliff and Bobo are friends Cliff and
Bobo sharing their adventures of doing the Finding Bigfoot show,
et cetera. However, yours continues to remain deeply entertaining and
(39:42):
incredibly informative. I really really appreciate the efforts that you
make and the respect that you show to everyone you
speak to and talk to about this topic. It would
it would be so much fun to meet you both someday.
Wouldn't it be amazing if life was like Star Trek
and we could go into the transporder and take an
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adventure of fishing and snowboarding together. That would rock. The
Lord bless you both with health and prosperity. Kallen and Callen.
That would rock.
Speaker 3 (40:18):
That's an awesome email, keV. You know, yeah, that's what
I figured. A little lighthearted, you know. And to all listeners,
Kevin and I love for people to write in and
some people just say, hey, love the podcast. You know,
Beverly from Idaho. You know, anything is better than nothing, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
And it keeps us going. And you know, once in
a while too, we do hear how we help you
through a tough time in your life. And that's always
great to hear too, because we forget sometimes that anybody's
out there listening. Sometimes we think we're just talking to
one another, but then then the emails pile in and
the reviews pile in, so we know you're really out there.
(41:08):
So thank you for listening. Good podcast Bill. We're coming
up on the Christmas holiday soon too, so I hope
you get your bells out for a little right.
Speaker 3 (41:19):
Yes, just I'm gonna brush up on my Santa Clause
singing voice, all.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Right, And folks, thanks for thanks for listening, thanks for
your great five star reviews, and thanks for all of
the email. You send us a ton of email and
we will get through all of it.
Speaker 4 (41:35):
Awesome.
Speaker 3 (41:36):
And folks, check out the shop. And by the way,
if you should find yourself hunting Nick Klutchman's Rock or
the Kreet's River or anywhere else for that matter, you
best remember one thing. My friends always carry more gun
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than you think.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
To need. Sleep tight.
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