Conspiracy Chat with Epoch-LET'S GET JACKED UP!

November 20th, 2025
Conspiracy Chat with Captain Epoch-LET'S GET JACKED UP!

In this episode Tim chats with Captain Epoch about his health, America being taken over by Muslim government, digital ID, Trump and peace, and 3i Atlas. Spend the evening listening to some conspiacy chat with Tim and Captain Epoch!

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Speaker 4 (01:07):
Dun Hey, everybody, I'm Tim, and with me today is
my co host and my brother in christ. You know him,
you love them. You haven't heard them from it in
a while. But it's Captain Epoch. That's right, Captain Epoch
from Fringe Radio Network, his own show. And Captain Epoch
has been through it and this is going to be

(01:28):
kind of an update. And also we'll just talk about,
you know, life, we'll talk about demonic attacks, we'll talk
about anything that comes in our brain and we'll talk
about it. So Captain Epoch, welcome to the show, and
welcome back, and how are you doing and feeling and
all that?

Speaker 5 (01:46):
Thanks? Not too bad. It's uh coming out to take
a day by day yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:53):
Well, first of all, if for those that don't remember
or people don't know at all what happened to you, well.

Speaker 5 (02:01):
Back in Uh, it's almost been a full year now. Actually,
I think it has been a full year. About a
year ago I had I had my first stroke. Yeah, uh,
I didn't think anything of it. I thought it was
I thought it was a migraine, and so I didn't
go well. About January I had a second stroke and

(02:26):
that I actually waited a day because on my wife's birthday,
so I didn't want to. I didn't want to go
to the hospital on my wife's birthday. So I went
the next day and I was having real hard time
breathing and stuff. So it's uh, it's a good thing
I went in and uh they started to be on

(02:48):
medication that that Then in February I had a third stroke.
They were only able to confirm the two, but because
the third one was so recent when they had the
cat scan, they they said I had a third stroke. Well,

(03:09):
the medication that they put me out is called the fetipine,
and the side effects from the pedipine were very severe. Well,
I just recently got off of the pedipine and my
voice started coming back, I started to getting more energy

(03:32):
and I was able to walk and not lose my balance.
And it's like, did I really have the third stroke
or was it just a pedopene.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
So but the second time I was in the hospital
and in February, it was horrible. They kept bugging me
about masks. It's like, I'm not gonna wear a mask.
There's no reason for me to wear a mask.

Speaker 4 (03:58):
And this was last year, this is this year, this year,
this year. Yep, Oh my goodness. And they're bothering you
in twenty twenty five about wearing a mask.

Speaker 5 (04:09):
Yeah, because apparently when I was in there in January,
I was exposed to to uh the flu.

Speaker 6 (04:18):
Okay, so they wanted to be to wear a mask
in February, and you know, it was it was horrible.

Speaker 5 (04:27):
They they put me in a room and it was
very sketchy, and if they fed me or not.

Speaker 6 (04:36):
Oh, and when I was in the room.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
See when I went to the hospital, I had diarrhea.
And when I was in there, they refused to clean
the room, they refuse to change the sheets, they wouldn't
let me take a shower.

Speaker 4 (04:53):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (04:55):
At one point I told him, I said, I'm not
going for any more test or anything until you let
me take a shower, Like, oh, we gotta get it
set up and get you a shower shirt. Because at
this time I couldn't walk. I couldn't walk, right.

Speaker 4 (05:07):
They didn't even give you a sponge bath, no nothing, nothing.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
And they were mad at me because I would get
up and I would go to the head to the bathroom.
They're like, no, you gotta have a you gotta have assistants,
you gonna have some you gonna have a what they
call a gate.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
Belt, okay, And oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what
that is.

Speaker 5 (05:30):
I'm like, no, I'm just gonna go into the bathroom.
I'm fine. They at one point they wanted the urine sample,
but they didn't actually use the urine sample. So and
because I couldn't, I couldn't, you know, pee like a
normally do. They had to set up what's called a

(05:52):
urinal hat. It's just the thing that goes into the
toilet that you can that you can pee in, okay,
And they took that and they shoved it in the
in the in the wash base, in the sink and
left it there for days, like so I couldn't wash

(06:13):
my hands it's finally, what kind of hospital is this?
The in the state of Michigan has rid the third worst.

Speaker 4 (06:28):
I can see why, Holy cow.

Speaker 5 (06:32):
And so, I mean I knew that when I was
in there, I had this snagging feeling that if I
was if I had to stay any longer, I wasn't
coming out like they were gonna they were going to
kill me.

Speaker 4 (06:47):
Wow. I mean, I don't know if that's a demonic
attack or negligence there.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
It is negligence, but.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
I mean it could be both. I'm just thinking that
is ridiculous. I mean, I'm sure this hospital has been
I don't know, it probably has been told on and reported. Right.

Speaker 5 (07:15):
Uh, they're repeatedly sued. I don't know how they're because
they're they're building a new building. I don't know how
they're doing that because I know they're getting sued. Although
they get doctor's got to take out a huge malpractice insurance.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
Yeah, I guess. So with that kind of crap. Okay,
so how did you how did you get out of that?
Well you just left.

Speaker 5 (07:39):
Well, my mother, who is an lp M, she's she's
been a nurse for as long as I can remember. Well,
she's been healthcare for as long as I can remember.
She's been a nurse since I was a teenager. So okay,
I don't do anything, I don't do anything medically without

(08:01):
consulting her first.

Speaker 4 (08:04):
Yeah, but.

Speaker 5 (08:06):
Finally she was able, she was able to come in
and my mom, you know, my mom's just she's a
little woman, but mad. Don't don't make her mad because.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Sounds like who was in the field as well.

Speaker 5 (08:24):
But she got she got right in the raid, in
the nurse's face and told him that you will let
my help my my son take a shower, set up
a set up a shower chair. You've got a shower room.
Let them we're going to take a shower, you know.
So finally I was able to take a shower and

(08:46):
uh get clean, and they were able to change the
sheets and all that because you know, being sick and
now I'm there was a mess, you know. Yeah. Yeah,
and they forced me to sleep in that mess for
for a week and a half.

Speaker 4 (09:04):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (09:05):
But uh, finally my blood pressure came down to a
point where they let me go home, and uh, they
sent me up with a doctor that wouldn't listen to
me or wouldn't actually find out what's wrong. They tried
saying that the blood pressure was the only thing wrong

(09:26):
with me, and that's fine. It's like, no, blood pressure
is a symptom, not the cause. Well they flew out
told me, they said, you will die before you before
we find the cause. What yep?

Speaker 4 (09:43):
What is going on over there in Michigan's Well, they
want to treat symptoms, they want to keep you sick.

Speaker 5 (09:52):
So they always saw you always have to be a medication.
You're always sending money to pharmaceutical companies and you're you
just it's you're a constantly forking out cash for the
stuff you quote unquote need to live. But luckily I
know enough about it to where I know that blood
pressure is a symptom, not a cause. So at one

(10:19):
point in time, and this is why I no longer
have that doctor. Oh. Part of the reason I told
him because he kept talking about, you know, treating or
giving me. He was a mandam me because I couldn't
take this medication spiral lactone. Oh yeah, and because it

(10:41):
was causing me to swell up and break out in hives.
He's like, no, it's impossible, I can't do that. He's like,
whether or not you think it's impossible it is, And
I told him, I said, look, I want to see
an endochronologist because I had all the symptoms of a
bad thyroid and he wouldn't listen to me. He's like, no,

(11:02):
you don't. He said, no, I want to see an endochronologist.
So he said, quote unquote that he set up an
endocrinologist appointment. We went by and I finally told him,
I said, look, I want you to print me out

(11:24):
proof that you sent in order for an endochronologist. He's like, no,
I think we need to drop you as a patient.
What yep. As soon as I ask for for written proof. Wow,
It's like that's okay. I don't trust you. I was
gonna drop you anyways.

Speaker 4 (11:44):
Man. Goodness, I mean this is this sounds like a
lossuit waiting to happen to me. But yes, I don't.
I'm no lawyer, so I don't know. But it's just wow.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
I was thinking about it because I I, you know,
being I've worked for pharmacy back in my youth. It
wasn't anything skilled or anything. I was a delivery person,
a driver. I delivered medication to UH, to nursing homes

(12:19):
and UH. But I knew a lot about you know,
the interworkings of healthcare. I know how to be well
versed in uh oh, what do they call it? Hippa
and uh the universal precautions and you know. Still and
I worked hand in hand with nurses and doctors all

(12:39):
the time. Plus at that time, my mom was still
need to be to be an LPN. So you know,
I I knew how this stuff worked. I I get
bad sometimes because doctors want to talk to me like
I'm like I'm fresh off the street. They don't they
like I wouldn't understand medical pology. It's like, talk to

(13:03):
me like I actually know something. Please, you know, don't
just and uh. So after this, after the old doctor
told me that that I would die before I ever
finally found a cause. Literally one visit with a new
doctor from the University of Michigan Healthcare System, he got

(13:23):
me an appointment with an endochronologist. The first appointment with
intero chronologists. We found out that I have what's called hashimotives.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Disease hashi moto.

Speaker 5 (13:35):
Okay, yep, it's it's where my body is attacking my thyroid.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Oh, there's a.

Speaker 5 (13:44):
High level of I forget what they call it, Like
paradoxy or yeah, paradoxy antibodies in my thyroid. Wow, okay,
and that can cause high blood pressure. Well we thought
that was it. That was you know the main cause. Well,
hashimotos can be caused by what's called let's see if

(14:06):
we can get this word right, hyper L L dostrianism.
It's basically cons disease. It's where my kidneys can't read
my blood pressure, so it may it selt the the

(14:27):
hormone L dostrin. Okay, you raised my Yeah, I had either.
I had a basically look all this up. When he said, oh,
you got a high hell high I dostrin, It's like,
what's that? So I I'm gonna end up with a
medical degree by the time figure out.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
Yeah, at least for that department. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:59):
Basically, there's these receptors and your kidneys that tell your
kidneys but you have higher low blood pressure, and your
kidneys through your low blood pressure, it tells us hormone
to be produced out of a gland on the top
of your kidneys to raise your blood pressure. Well, in mind,

(15:23):
my kidneys are reading me at low blood pressure, so
telling my body to raise my blood pressure even though
my blood pressure is really high, right, I mean it
was the first time I went to the hospital. I
had my blood pressure read by their machine. It actually
was so high that it could not be read. It

(15:46):
read three hundred and sixty plus over one ninety eight,
but the doctor said it could possibly be well into
the four hundreds.

Speaker 4 (15:58):
Gee.

Speaker 5 (15:59):
And they when they first put me out the IVY
blood pressure med to lower my blood pressure, they lowered
it too fast, and when it was at I started
passing out. So that's how they know it was well
over three six.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
Wow. So this and how long has this been going
on with you? Since that?

Speaker 5 (16:24):
What year? Year and a half? Well, I've had dangerously
high blood pressure for like fifteen years. But they just
wanted to treat the symptoms. And because of const disease,
A very drug resistant as far as blood pressure meds go.

Speaker 4 (16:43):
Oh okay, so you have been through it, my friend.

Speaker 5 (16:49):
Man, the one time I didn't want to hit a
high score was on the blood pressure machine.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
All right. So so then did they I guess did
they get it somewhat controlled?

Speaker 5 (17:07):
SOA okay, Like I said, because of the cons disease,
I'm very drug resistant. So what they got me on
now is h hydraulazine, which is a very nasty tasting
drug and uh it tastes like burnt plastic and uh
orne feels.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
Ah wow.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
And then they got me. They got me on L.
Blackton allilopine. I'm sorry, And ellilopine is what they should
have had me on before, not the pedipine. It's in
the same family, but alliedopine doesn't have a have all
the side effects. So I'm actually able to uh take

(17:56):
that and not want to sleep five times a day
and I'm actually able to walk and you know function
hm hmm. Wow, you know whole list of side effects
that the pedopine was was causing.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Now, I mean, I don't know much about medical stuff,
but is there any way that perhaps you could get
like holistic medicine to help you or is it just
the stuff that these doctors have to prescribe to you.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
For right now, it's just what the doctor's prescribe to me.
I've talked to a holistic doctor before, and I wasn't impressed,
Like when I'm telling him things that he needs to
do instead of him advising me and what I needed
to do it. We talked to a holistic doctor with

(18:56):
my wife's cancer and her heart problem. Because once they
were they wanted to open up my wife just the
immediately they wanted to put on a defribuator. It's like,
why don't we try to change our diet a little

(19:18):
bit and see if we can't get our heart function up?
And we did basically, and we The cardiologist is like, wow,
I'm surprised. It's like, well, I'm not. I don't understand
why a diet change when your first response instead of
you know, dramatic heart surgery and installing you know, heart

(19:42):
heart machines, when a simple diet change can fix a lot.

Speaker 4 (19:49):
Sure, Oh, we were talking should become a knowledge, right, Oh?

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Absolutely? I mean to me, it's you know, you don't
cut off an arm for a blister. You put a
bandage on the blister. You know.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
I don't think you have to be a doctor to
know that, Like even a sixth grader should know this, right.

Speaker 5 (20:10):
And they had got this in touch with the with
the holistic doctor at the University of Michigan and back
when we were living in ips Lanti and the uh
the holistic doctor was He's like, why I I just
don't know what to do in this case, Like what

(20:31):
do you mean you don't know? You know, and he's recommending.

Speaker 4 (20:35):
That, and that's what you want to hear from your doctor. Well,
I don't know what to do.

Speaker 5 (20:40):
Right, wells right, It's like, no, you need to advise me.
I don't need to tell you. And I got thinking
about it, and he was a plant basically, because you

(21:00):
got the you got the there's three tests of medicine
and I can't remember what they're called, but I know
that it's a pharmacological holistic and there's another one I
can't remember, and but he was basically there as a
plant for the pharmacological side because he's suggesting what the

(21:23):
other doctors were suggesting as far as meds. And I'm like, no,
we need to do this diet because my wife's heart
function is returning. And he's like, well I did. I
don't know what to do with It's like, I do
know what to do. Let's keep on this diet and

(21:43):
see what happens. And they tried to sending against new
nutritionists and all this other things, all these other people
that were like, well you need to eat this and
this this. No, we don't right, you know, because I
told us we we're cutting out all carbs. We're eating

(22:04):
more proteins and paths. You know, we're we're trying to
reboot the the you know, our bodies to actually process
food the way they're supposed to. And you know, we're
we're getting away from the ultra processed foods, which works.

(22:24):
You know, I can't explain why it worked, but it worked.
You know, sugars, I mean not just sure if we
need sugar for there's certain things in the body. But
what happens is, excuse we get this high fruit, those

(22:44):
current syrup and these fake sugars that are destroying our bodies.
And like for one of the meds they had me
on was uh well a Stanton statins are the worst
thing you could ever take. As soon as I found

(23:07):
pound out what it was, I immediately stopped taking it
because the risks were far exeeded the the benefits. We
need cholesterol in our in our system. Yeah, the reason

(23:27):
why cholesterol becomes a problem is because we're taking all
these artificial sugars, which is there's like a tough bone
layer in our blood, in our blood vessels.

Speaker 4 (23:39):
You know, that reminds me, Captain. I don't mean to
interrupt you, but you said cholesterol. Sort that reminded me.
I was seeing videos, you know, on social media of
course there you know, when you see videos, you get
like huh. But but it was about cholesterol, and it
was like saying that we actually need cholesterol. You know
how these doctors say, oh, I'll get your cholesterol, get

(23:59):
your cholesterol down. But apparently cholesterol is good for the body.
Is that correct?

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Yep? Oh yeah, our brains are made of the cholesterol.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
And yet the part the pharmaceutical companies and the medical says, no,
I have the cholesterol down.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Right there, so don't need eggs. But eggs are so
integral for brain function for you know, it's it's a
perfect protein.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
And what happens is sugars are a road that that
tough lie coating and our blood vessels, and the body
uses cholesterol to repair our blood vessels. So when you
get an artery clog, it's because you've been eating too
many of that too much artificial sugars, and the body's

(24:52):
trying to repair the damage, you know. Yeah, so that's
why they find cholesterol in the clog in the in
the artery plot.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
Okay, that makes more sense. So yeah, my dad, he's
been eating less sugar, right, and he only has like
a dessert on a very some occasion. And anyways, he's
been feeling great. You know. He's like, oh man, you
gotta you gotta go on a no sugar diet or

(25:26):
a very little sugar diet, you know, and you don't
have to like cut it out completely, but you know,
cut it down. And I don't know, I'm thinking about
doing it. It's just, oh man, I love some of
most stuff, and it's hard to do, right. It's hard
to find foods that tastes good without that kind of stuff,

(25:49):
I think. But right, if if it is with your health,
then it's very important to figure it out.

Speaker 5 (25:56):
The ketogenic diet's really good. We we just got back
on the generic diet and people think, oh, you can't sweets,
you can have fruit, you can have you know, stuff
like that. Just stay away from the ultra processed and
the sugars. And because when we when we first did it,

(26:19):
when my wife is having the heart problem, uh, we
cut all carbs like no bread, no right, oh man,
go on. There's a period that you go through. It's

(26:39):
called the kettle flu. It's it's your body basically going
through withdrawals because I want it wants sugar. It's the
process between switching the body over from processing sugar for
energy and deprocessing fast energy.

Speaker 4 (26:57):
Yeah, healthy stuff.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
You can have bacon. You can have a lot of bacon.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bacon really yes see they see now they tell you
to stay away from bacon. These uh medical fields, right,
a lot of them.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Right, And this is this is the thing too. See,
when you eat fat, your body doesn't take that pat
and turn it into pat. When you eat cholesterol, it
doesn't take that cholesterol and turn it into cholesterol. Your
body produces cholesterol on its own, just like it produces fat.

(27:36):
Like your body takes whatever it does, doesn't know what
to do with, and turns it into pat. So like
if you eat a bunch of ultra processed foods, I
have at all these preservatives and artificial food coloring and
you name it, your body doesn't know how to process
to that, so it stores it for later, you know.

(27:56):
They that's you know, part of our our We have
an obesity epid epidemic in America.

Speaker 4 (28:05):
Right, obesity, Yeah, yeah, that's true.

Speaker 5 (28:10):
And it's all from if you look at pictures of
people from before the seventies. Oh yeah, yeah, they're all
things right. Well, it was it was during the seventies
that they authorized the use of ASP for tame and

(28:30):
all these you know, all process foods, and as soon
as that hit the market and became our normal diet,
we all became obese.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Right, yeah, I agree with that. I think that's exactly
what happened, you know, and it's probably cheaper and the
companies get more money and all that stuff.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
Oh yeah, well there's there's this is a crazy thing.
They're subsidies, substitutes, you know, well subsidies. The government is
actually paying farmers and food manufacturers and all that to
produce these ultra process foods. Because I was wondered why

(29:18):
things with less ingredients costs more than things with you know,
a half mile long list of ingredients. Well, it's not
the cheaper to manufacture with all these ingredients, it's that
the government is actually paying them to do so through
like the corner lobby. You got the other lobbyists that

(29:41):
are lobbying the government for these subsidies.

Speaker 4 (29:46):
But then you've got to ask yourself, why are they
doing this, Like what what what is the purpose to
add out as artificial crap and then some and well,
I don't think they want healthy people, No.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
They want you dependent on them. Like right now, the
in the in the position I'm in, I am completely
reliant on the state of Michigan because or well more
specifically the health and pharmaceuticceutical industry, because I have to

(30:29):
go to them to get medication that I need to live. Now,
my insurance goes to pay for the medications, which the
doctor's writing medication. So the doctors are getting paid by
the insurance company, and so the doctors made sure the
pharmaceutical company is getting paid by writing prescriptions and keeping

(30:53):
me on those those prescriptions, and it just keeps going.
It's like it's a circle of money laundering. Basically, I'm
so happy to hear that Trump's like, Okay, Obamacare had
it wrong. We're not gonna give all these billions of

(31:14):
dollars to the insurance companies for no reason. We're gonna
give all the money back to the people so they
can choose their own healthcare.

Speaker 4 (31:24):
Yeah. Yeah, it kind of sounds like Obamacare.

Speaker 5 (31:30):
But well, Obamacare forced us to to enroll, and a
lot of a lot of good doctors quit as soon
as they as soon as they came in to uh
to effect. But it was to force everybody to pay
in for healthcare. But now Trump wants to take that

(31:55):
away and give us back the money and say you
decide like that better?

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Yeah, yeah, meet you give it back to the people,
right yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
So if you decide that, you know, the best healthcare
for you is eating healthy and staying off of medication,
you can you know. Well, I'm just glad that my
new doctor actually found the cause. Now when to hear
back from the endocrinologists as far as you know this

(32:30):
aldosterone and well, how to how to mitigate that? What
I got to do. If it's primary hyperstritism, it might
be a tumor on I'm on my ind lan mm hmm.
But if it's secondary, it means my kidneys are getting

(32:53):
the blood flow. They need to determine what my blood
pressure is.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
Okay, So.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
Primary would be ideal because they can just go in.
It's just it's a twenty minute surgery and I'm cured.
But if it's secondary, then it can be looking a
bit more complicated.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
Wow. Well, I'm glad you see it seem like you're
feeling better. Oh yeah, you sound better than what I
I mean. I talked to you I don't know how
many months ago, and you sound a lot better than
you did then.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
Yeah. I was always fatigued. And when I last time
I tried to do an episode, I didn't realize just
how bad I sound. It's like, oh my goodness, I
can't do this, and I owe more to my listeners
than you know. Uh. Let's see when I say it

(33:54):
slurred mess that I was, you know, the recording and
it took me so long because I would record a
part of the small segment, go back to edit it,
and you have to say the same thing about four
or five times.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Hey, I do that anyways, especially with Jack. Oh gotcha?

Speaker 5 (34:21):
Jack?

Speaker 4 (34:24):
Just easing brother. Hey, guess what we're I want you
guys to keep Captain Epok in your prayers because he
might be down, but he ain't out and Jesus is
still with him, so he hasn't given up on Captain
Epoch and either should you. So keep him in your prayers. Captain.
We're gonna take a quick break and when we come back,
we'll talk about some other things. If that's cool with you,

(34:48):
sound great, all right, We'll be right back right here
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Speaker 4 (36:09):
All right, and welcome back to Let's Get Jacked Up.
And my guest and my co host today is Captain Epoch,
who has his own show on Fringe Radio Network. Now,
of course, Captain, you're not doing shows anymore, but you
can still listen to the archived of his shows and

(36:30):
hopefully soon you'll be doing shows again. I mean, you're,
like I say, you're down, but you're not out, and
you're going to be back. So we're looking forward to that. Captain.
Though he lives all the way in Michigan, and there's
some going some stuff going on over there, especially in
Dearborn and other parts of Michigan. You know, we are

(36:53):
believers in Jesus on this show, and there's a lot
of Muslims over there. Now, I have nothing, I have
nothing wrong or against Muslim Muslims. If you want to
be a Muslim, that's your prerogative, but do not enter
up our American style. But what's been happening over there

(37:13):
in Dearborn, Well, I'm sure Captain Epoch can tell us
all about it.

Speaker 5 (37:19):
Dear Dearborn is Uh. I used to live maybe bi
minutes from Dearborn in a town hall. It's Lani, It's uh.
It's Lanny and Arbor. They're real close together. Like you
can drive from it Islani to ann Arbor and not

(37:40):
see a change its scenery. But there's a it's People
want to say it's it's Dearborn's that's bad. Well, it's
Saint Clair Shores, it's ham Trammick. It's basically all of
the southern the southeastern part of Michigan that's has huge,

(38:04):
huge Muslim population, and it's by design. They it's invasion,
but it's they do it in a way that isn't noticed.
It's like the frog in a boiling pot. If you
throw a frog in a boiling pot, it'll jump out. Yeah,

(38:26):
if you slightly increase the temperature gradually, it'll boil to death.
And that's what's happening now, is we're boiling to death.
But in Dearborn, the mayor is Muslim, the police chief
is Muslim, all the city board members are Muslim. And

(38:50):
you know, I don't have a problem with the Muslim people,
but in the Qur'an it literally states that you know,
you can do violence against the infidels. Now, who's the infidels?
We are, according to them, absolutely everybody that's not Muslim. Right.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
And the thing is, guys, you know, and I've heard
a Muslim say this that they when they come to America,
they don't adapt to American life. They want to change
American America foundationally. So that means they want to change
America into basically Muslim Erica.

Speaker 5 (39:32):
Right.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I don't know what you say into their thinking into
a Sharia law. And that's the problem.

Speaker 8 (39:38):
Islamshan to take over America.

Speaker 5 (39:40):
We as Muslims want to implement here in the United states.
We believe the Constitution should be replaced by the Quran.

Speaker 9 (39:45):
Thus, the ones who don't accept the rule of a stub,
they must.

Speaker 4 (39:48):
Be fun I will abolish the constitution.

Speaker 5 (39:50):
And so before it was by the sword. Now it's
getting themselves into parliament.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
A mayoral candidate Muslim, the vice president of the Minneapolis City.

Speaker 4 (39:59):
Council, Muslim Tramick, Michigan, Muslim, mayor of Dearborn, Michigan.

Speaker 5 (40:03):
Muslim, will you live here?

Speaker 4 (40:04):
I want you to know, as mayor, you're not welcome here.

Speaker 8 (40:07):
Let's make one thing clear. Islam is trying to take
over America. And we see this not just happening in America,
but we see it happening in other countries, for example
in the United Kingdom. And what's weird is people are
just letting it happen.

Speaker 4 (40:17):
But let me tell you something.

Speaker 8 (40:18):
The way the enemy starts that he starts off small
and then he keeps on gaining small territory. You have
a small territory to the point where he has so
much territory where it's going to affect you and your family.
And I believe that this needs to be addressed, not
just by the politicians, but this need to be addressed
by the Body of Christ. We need a war in
a place of prayer, war in a place of intercession.
We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principlogies,

(40:39):
against rules of the doctors of this world, against spiritual
weakness in high places.

Speaker 4 (40:42):
Hey, it's time.

Speaker 8 (40:43):
The sound of the alarm Jesus Christ is coming sooner.
And these days are just getting darker and darker.

Speaker 5 (40:48):
This said that they'll is all mobilion every home and
shrio law will rule either by ballot or by bullet.
So if they don't get their stuff passed, they're gonna
take it by force.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
So there you go. That's their whole thing. And so
dearborn is just one part. And you're saying this is happening,
and more like you said, it's it's growing in Michigan, right.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
Yeah, about I want to say about half of the
population that ipsy is is Muslim.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
And then also we got that New York mayor now
in Manhattan, right, and that's a New York City and
that yeah, and he's not not just a Muslim, but
a Muslim communist man.

Speaker 5 (41:37):
Well, this is the thing. If you're if you're Islamic,
you don't have a political party. He's not. He's not
just a socialist or communists. He's Islamic. He'll put on
the front saying, oh, but never cry, I'm a socialist.
You know, I'm gonna freeze the rent. I'm gonna make
buses free and open up these uh government owns grocery stores.

(42:03):
But he can't do any of that, like all that
stuff is outside of the purview of the mayor. But
he promised it. Oh right, and what did he do
as soon as he got in office or got elected.
He's like, well, I always said you don't have to
send me money. Now I need all you donors to
start sending all the money we need to. We need

(42:25):
to pay for all this stuff. Oh.

Speaker 4 (42:30):
Man, if I were I'm sorry. I know it's difficult
if especially if you grew up there, But if you
live in Manhattan or New York City, I suggest you
could just get out while you still can. I don't know,
I don't know that. I uh, I pray for those people. Really.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
I got to visit in New York pre not eleven
and it was I loved it. It was. It was
an amazing place. I got to see the the Twin Towers,
I got to see the UN building and I was
told it was weird as the UN building. But I
didn't know why then because it only a teenager at

(43:10):
the time. But now, so oh wow, you know, now
I realized what it's all about over there.

Speaker 4 (43:19):
Yeah, yeah, crazy, I mean, so that's happening though the
territory has been taken over.

Speaker 9 (43:28):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
And then I want to also hear about digital ID.
Your thoughts on the upcoming digital ID stuff.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
It's scary stuff. No, they're they're trying to push it
as a good thing, like, well, you you should be
identified on social media. You shouldn't be able to stay anonymous,
you know, if you break the law or you commit
you know, cyber bullying or hate speech, we should be

(43:59):
able to know who you are. I promise.

Speaker 4 (44:06):
That.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Oh absolutely. But they were seeing this over in the
EU about about you know, digital idea. They're going to
EU wallet like Apple wallet. Yeah, and uh was it
was it did your And I was only aware of

(44:29):
Illinois and they were they were seeing Elois was the
first to institute this, So I guess Utah is too.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Yeah, Utah is implementing it. In fact, I'll play a
clip here. I'll put in a clip while we're talking,
but about Utah and then putting uh a digital idea implemented. Again,
it's not going to be forced upon us just yet,
but they wanted, like like you were saying, like cooking

(45:01):
a frog, you know, gradually now they want everybody to
seemingly to have digital idea by what I think twenty
it's either twenty twenty seven or twenty thirty, but for
sure by twenty thirty in America, and.

Speaker 5 (45:18):
It fits in with agenda.

Speaker 4 (45:20):
Yeah, so definitely by then. And that's that's probably where
I could see them forcing it. But and look, I
don't know if this is the mark of the Beast
or not. I have no idea, but what I am
saying is for sure it's about control, you know, and
that is where okay, you talk about America and freedom

(45:42):
or where's the freedom? And that if they know everything
that you're doing. And as a matter of fact, we
just talked about last week or no this past week
on Jacked Up Daily about them oh meta, you know
meta now and on December sixteenth, could possibly go in

(46:03):
your dms and collect them, collect everything that you're you're saying, writing,
your voice messages, everything on you and Yeah, maybe they're
not going to use it against you right away, but
they could so of course Meta denies that, but they're
saying it's about you know ads, you know, so, oh,
you're going to help AI with their with knowledge and

(46:28):
stuff like that. Well I'm not good with that either.
So yeah, the freedoms in this country have gone by
by pretty much. I mean, you could say what you
want until you can't, right right.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
Well, and it's not just Meta either, it's also Gmail.
They're using emails to AI will read your emails to
build a to build this machine learning.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
And you know, even if they deny it, do you
really trust Marcus Uckberg or trust the government at all? No,
So they could deny it all they want. They could say, oh,
that's fake information whatever, But what's to stop them actually
collecting it and using it against you at some point
even if it's not true right now? You know.

Speaker 5 (47:22):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
Let's say you get Gavin Gruesome as president in twenty
eight Well, he could use all that stuff against Christians
or people that not even Christians, but people that don't
accept what he's saying. Well, that's you're being false or
you're listening to the wrong people. And I could see

(47:45):
here in your messages or you know whatever. I'm just saying,
whoever is in office could be a corrupt person and
use it against you. So that's why it's important to
know this stuff.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
Always have it in the ear to the ground, right exactly.
You know, don't don't be in fear over because I mean,
ultimately we we win, right, But to be ignorant about
all this stuff happening is it's a problem too.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
Exactly. Let's see now your thoughts on I see that
there's we did a show this past a couple of
weeks ago about the three eye at lists at lists. Uh. Now, again,
I haven't talked to Captain Epoch in a long time,

(48:45):
so I don't know what he has information on this
stuff or his thoughts on it. What are your thoughts
on the three eye at lists going on?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Well, real, real quick, let's go back to the digital idea. Sure,
And the cool thing about this is it actually goes
back to what we were talking about in Dearborn the but
the mark of the Beast, Now, the mark of the

(49:15):
Beast was written in Greek. It you know, said in
Greek the six three and six, basically sixty six. But
if you look at how it was written in the
Greek and you look at the I don't know if
they call it the headbands that as long as the gihades.

(49:40):
Where is actually how the mark of the Beast was
written in Greek in the in the New Testament. So
it could be that the mark of the Beast is
referring to the that the Arabic writing that the jihadis

(50:07):
wear oh, which corresponds with the four horsemen of the apocalypse,
and their.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Colors say that green, red.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Green, red, black and pale or white. And when you
when you put those colors together, green, black and red
and white, and then you look at every Muslim flag,
they all have those same three colors because those are
the colors of Islam. Yeah, so with the four horsemen,

(50:50):
could also be referring to is the Islam invasion.

Speaker 4 (51:02):
Oh okay, I'm with you so far.

Speaker 5 (51:07):
So the mark of the Beast, it said that we
will be forced to take it in order to buy
seller trade. Now I believe that, you know, we'll have
to have that mark. Now they're already there's already a
few walking around with the mark on their forehead. But

(51:32):
combined it with like R F I D with the
r f I D tags at the chip that's implanted, yeah,
you know in the Biceller trade. And then you you
add that up with uh, the what do you call
it the brand ship.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
Of Yeah, Elon Musk's thing neuralink.

Speaker 5 (51:57):
Yep, neuralink. So because it says that you know, the
Antichrist will talk you through this mark. Now that didn't
make sense with the just an RFID tag, but with
neurallink it makes perfect sense. Like because even if La
Musk is saying that with neurolink, you'll be able to,

(52:21):
you know, use stelepathy talk between chip chip. So how
will the Antichrist talk to us through the mark? Because
it's a chip. But I believe it has an association
with Islam, like because they want total world domination and

(52:45):
we know that somebody will have control over the world
at some point, and will it be in as long
as control because they're all about, you know, forcing you
into compliants.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
And you look at the UK, they're flooded with them
right now, you know the shoot it seems like they
would just let them come on in and they have
a lot of Muslims over there.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
Right, it goes well beyond just simple taking in refugees. Yeah,
because literally every mayor of every major city in the
UK is Muslim. Wow, if you there, there's a Christians

(53:40):
are told you street preach. If you go on the
street and you hand out tracks or you preach, you
end up in prison over there. Yeah. Well yeah, and
the dearborn. But that's that's another There was a well street.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
Let me hear about that. So because see, Jack told
a story where he went to the mall. This was
years ago, and he had a Bible open. All he
was doing was sitting down and reading it. He wasn't preaching,
he wasn't telling anybody about Christ. He was simply reading
his Bible privately on a bench in the mall. And
he was told by security that he has to close

(54:21):
it or leave the mall. And he's like, what this was,
you know? And this is way before what's happening today.
And he's like and he kind of bit back on him.
He goes, well, what if I was having a Koran
open or the Koran open, you tell me the same thing. No,

(54:43):
you wouldn't, you know. So it's true they are offended
by the Bible.

Speaker 5 (54:49):
That's the drek violation of the first.

Speaker 4 (54:51):
End right and they claim, we know because this is
a private entity or whatever. You know, this is private property.

Speaker 5 (55:01):
They well, it's it's not in our policies and all
that crap. Yeah, technically you agree that our policies when
you enter the door, Well where.

Speaker 4 (55:13):
Is it written? That's what I like to say, exactly.
I don't see no policy that you can't have a
Bible open anyways. That's just something I threw out because,
you know, reminded me of what's going on now.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
There was a church uh And that decided that they
were going to go hand tracks out during this Muslim
festival in uh in Dearborn. And you know, keep in
mind that the chief of police and most of the
police force is Muslim. They were told that they had

(55:51):
to go six blocks away. They're gonna be anywhere near
this this festival. And this happened after another group was
hanging out Bible tracks and were actually arrested and detained
by the police force. And they were told, Noah's for

(56:15):
your protection because you know, they could have they could
have gotten hurt on the street. But no, then there
was they said it was illegal two hand out Bible
tracks into preach within six blocks of this festival.

Speaker 4 (56:39):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
You know, on top of them, the Muslim mayre of
Dearborn telling him a pastor that he's not welcome in
this city. And he that pastor actually has a church
in Dearborn. And uh, because they were talking about the

(57:03):
calls of prayer that they blast over the law speakers,
violating the the noise or ordinance of the city. Right
and nowhere in this in the in the in the
United States, under the Constitution, can a mayor say you

(57:23):
are not welcome in this city. Right.

Speaker 4 (57:27):
Well, that's what I'm saying. They want to change every
change it fundamentally, and they're doing it without very little pushback.

Speaker 5 (57:35):
Right. It's stay funded to the even the whole even
there's a reason why Michigan will not release the e
b T files, they won't release the e v T
stats to the federal government. It's because you can. If
you're a Muslim and you have ten wives and you

(57:58):
decide to immigrate into Michigan, what Michigan State does. It
tells you, Okay, you can pick who, pick one wife
and say that's your one wife. Then all the rest
of the nine can be your dependence, and we can
actually listen as your dependence and I actually personally witnessed

(58:21):
this when I was living down there, because like I thought,
it was weird that this carful of a muscle movement.
They could, you know, they were they got a full job,
could go in and buy. I watched them. They bought
like thousands of dollars worth of candy bars and snacks

(58:42):
and you name it, all on EBT.

Speaker 4 (58:46):
Huhm.

Speaker 5 (58:48):
And because they get thousands of dollars worth an EBT
because they're all listened at dependence. So all this into
their nice, brand new, fancy car. Sure, And I'm like,
that seems why were they buying it, like not not
just seagull candy bars, but like the commercial packs of

(59:13):
candy bars. Right, Don't it dawned on me? Do you
usually to stock their own stores, their their own convenience stores,
their own gas stations, And it's like their inventory is
paid for it by the by Texas by by. And

(59:37):
at the time, you know, meanwhile, me and my wife
was struggling right after she uh she got at the
hospital and uh was was on disability, so we had
to we had to send up for a snap and
unfortunately we had to do it again because now you know,

(59:58):
I'm disabled but so they they would only give us
like maybe two fruit stamps a month, trying to say
then they they would lie in and uh, even though
I'd give them my tax papers, my uh my tax

(01:00:18):
information because I was considered self employed, like oh, no,
you have to be making at least you know, this
much of month, Like no, I'm only making this much
a month. They would increase how much I made on
paper so they could reduce the amount we received. And

(01:00:39):
it's like, wait a minute, no, this is this is
how much I make. You know, based on my family's side.
You know, it's me and my wife and my three
daughters at the time, and they were trying to say, no,
you make too much because it's only one No I

(01:01:01):
make I don't make this as much as you're saying.
And I have three doughters, three dependent doors, and so
they would literally fudged the amount. Well then I I
thought it was a race thing, but then I realized, no,
it's uh because they always talked about being short on funding. Yeah,

(01:01:26):
and I mean racist part of it. But since uh,
since everything came out with Snap and with UH, with
the frauds and everything, and the fact that hundreds of
thousands of people dead, people were on Snap and you're

(01:01:47):
not even going into the disability thing, the social kid security.
On top of that, they're also give me get to
illegals and give me get to these polygamists. And I'm like, wow, no,

(01:02:11):
wonder the amount of money because it's not going for
what it's meant to. I was told by and we
call it DHS or d AHS Department of Human Health Services.
And I was told by a caseworker then or I
call them a case for a guy. Correct one time

(01:02:31):
by the lady handling our case, I guess they're not
certified case workers. And she told me you have to
be an American, you have to be a citizen, because
I told him said, why do I need you know,
why do you need to confirm my my citizenship again?

(01:02:53):
I was born here, Like, well, we're not giving assistance
to to undocumented people, but then find out no, they
really are.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
Well yeah, of course, I mean that's.

Speaker 5 (01:03:17):
I was. I was aesthetic that they're with with staff
and EBT, even though I had to I we're on
ABT currently. I don't I didn't mind not receiving our
benefits for November because that means that they'd have to

(01:03:38):
completely redo the system or could redo the system, right,
you know, even though we have to reapply and they're
they're telling me I have to work at least eighty
hours a month. It's like, oh wow, I can't communicate
very well, so I can't work direct directly with the public.

(01:04:03):
I have a hard time standing for more than more
than five minutes, and I I'm working slower than I
ever have in my life. So what benefit am I
going to be to an employer? Why would they hire me? Now?
I was told years ago by God that at some

(01:04:29):
point in my life I'm going to have to give
up the secular life. And he told me this while
I own my my hobby shop, and I couldn't figure
it out. It's like, I mean, so he's telling me,
I'm basically gonna have to go into full time ministry.

(01:04:50):
That's okay, at some point in my life. I believe
now what he was talking about is You're gonna have
a stroke. You're not gonna be able to go back
to work for a secular job. So this is what
I want you to do, you know. And it's still

(01:05:14):
doesn't it STI doesn't ring a bell when he wanted
me to quit grub ub because as he said, I'm
delivering you from slavery, like I did. These are lifes
from Egypt. And I'm like, okay, I can I can

(01:05:37):
kind of understand that. And at times I would sit
there and say, well, I could just go do go
do go do a grub ub pick up, you know,
make some money. He's like, that's exactly what these are.
Lights said when I let them out of out of Egypt,
they wanted to go back and live on the security

(01:05:59):
of agy It and you know, because they still got
paid the uh they had a house over their heads,
you know, all provided by Egypt. But I was like,
I gave them the promised land.

Speaker 4 (01:06:17):
Right and they want to go back right.

Speaker 5 (01:06:20):
And like like, oh, I I didn't realize, you know
that I was that I was acting just like these
reel whites, you know what. I apologize.

Speaker 4 (01:06:31):
Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, what we want
to go back to being relying on the government type
of thing.

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
Yeah, And you know, I just at that time and
this is when I this is when I started the
Adventures with Captain Epoch and almost doing the podcast, and
God told me said, don't worry, excuse me, oh hold on, sure.

(01:07:05):
Oh sorry. I with my strokes, I forgot how swallow.
So when I drink, I either get a lot of
error or I cough, I actually choke on it. Oh boy, okay, yeah,
I'm fine. I'm just heading to de gass a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:07:28):
Well, I me know, we could take a break whenever
we're just we're pre recording it. I'm good, okay, but
what was I saying? Oh but these are lights?

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
Yeah. When I he told me that he would pay me,
that I wouldn't have to worry, It's like, okay, I
trust you, Lord, you know I'll do this. And uh,
I didn't realize. Well, I wanted me to just you know,

(01:08:03):
the quick grub hub and to do the podcast full
time until I had my my my second stroke. It's
like I'm starting to get it. Well, my third stroke
took away my ability to you know, to announciate and

(01:08:24):
to communicate. I'm like, oh, okay, you know, so I'm
just I The Lord told me, he said, don't worry, Troy.
This is all temporary. So I knew how to get
my voice back. I knew how to get you know,

(01:08:47):
my ability to walk back, and for the most part,
my ability to walk is come back like I can.
I can move without I still have some difficult like
every once in a while drop things or you know,
I'll stumble like I was doing goofy faces with with

(01:09:11):
my grandson and I shook my head while I was
walking forward and almost fell. I was like, wait a minute, Okay,
I can't do that, but you know, and I'm getting
to the point where I can walk upstairs all right.

(01:09:32):
And I was able to rebuild my hand eye coordination
by playing Minecraft.

Speaker 4 (01:09:39):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:09:41):
I sat there and of course hidding the keys for
a while was was horrible. But eventually I was able
to play it like it like I used to.

Speaker 4 (01:09:53):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (01:09:55):
It's like it worked. They wanted. They're like, we we
can give you physical therapy. And I was in the
hospital and I'm like why, I said, For the most part,
I'm you know, I'm I mean, I can I can
lift my legs the way I'm supposed too. I can

(01:10:17):
move my hands because they always have you touch your
nose and touch the tip of your fingers and sure
touch your fingers together. And I but even though the
horrible state at the hospital, I was able to do
that to uh, to their satisfaction, like there was no

(01:10:40):
impairment by the time. I luck because I would sit
there and I would work at it.

Speaker 4 (01:10:47):
Well, it's in the hospital, and how that happened, how
that work out? Then you're working at it.

Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
It worked pretty good, I because I knew the I
knew the processes that a physical therapist that I had
to go through. Now I was disappointed because there's no well,
I was told that there was no speech therapists in
the area.

Speaker 4 (01:11:14):
Oh, come on, in all the area.

Speaker 5 (01:11:17):
So yeah, okay, So I had to I had to
relearn how to swallow. Well, I can't. I can't really
say by myself because you know, my my mom and
my stepdad. My stepdad had throw cancer and he had

(01:11:39):
to learn how to swallow again. But through that helping me,
you know, by me working at it, I was able
to swallow and to speak and what I would do.
And I'm so every every morning, I well every morning
I'm not running, but we're around looking madman.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
I uh.

Speaker 5 (01:12:02):
I read the Gospel all loud, and the Lord told me,
he said, do that. But by the time you finish
the Book of Matthew, you should be able to talk.

Speaker 4 (01:12:19):
What book are you now?

Speaker 5 (01:12:23):
I'm on book twenty five Matthew.

Speaker 10 (01:12:29):
Oh, all right, good And every time, every time I
read a book in Matthew, I can speak better, So
I know that by the time I reached the end,
I should be able to speak like nothing happened.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Well that's awesome. Hey, Well get reading.

Speaker 5 (01:12:53):
Right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:56):
Oh hey, brother, let's take a break, and then when
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Speaker 4 (01:14:02):
All right, and welcome back to Let's get jacked up
and with our buddy here, Captain Epoch. Be our final
segment with him, and I just want to I appreciate
you spending some time with us today, Captain, and I
want to talk a little bit about three I at
liss and what is going on with that in your opinion?

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Well, it's is there to show us that we don't
know as much as we thought we did a whole universe.

Speaker 4 (01:14:39):
Now, do you think it's a comment? Do you think
it's an asteroid or an alien spaceship?

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
I believe it's an object that we've never a type
of objects we've never identified before.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
And by the way, this is what the twentieth of November,
and I'm still waiting it, waiting for it to land
somewhere here on Earth, right, But what's going on with that?

Speaker 5 (01:15:09):
Well, I don't think it was ever meant to land here.
It's I I can't remember which prophet it was, if
it was Brendan Briggs or Troy Black that was talking
about it, saying that it's a preview on what's to come.

(01:15:33):
You know that we don't know not we don't there's
we know we don't know more about the universe than
what we do know.

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
And you know, if you.

Speaker 5 (01:15:47):
Listen to the way that they're talking about it, they're
trying to say that it.

Speaker 11 (01:15:51):
Was a.

Speaker 5 (01:15:54):
Nickel. That can't be that doesn't happen in nature. It's
has it's a manufacturer nickel and it's off gassing. Uh,
something that we've never seen before that they thought it

(01:16:14):
was gonna break up or speed up during what they
call the pair helium, the going around in the sun,
and it didn't. It remained a consistent speed and it
has some kind of non gravitational propulsion. If you if

(01:16:39):
there's one guy that mister BBB three C three I
think is his name on YouTube says that if you
look at it, it looks like there's a horse shield
and three objects inside but being you know, being held
together basically.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
So I mean, yeah, so you're saying, I mean, well,
so they're saying that they think it's some kind of
craft or something like that mother ship.

Speaker 5 (01:17:12):
That's what you're saying. Although I don't think it is
like unless and unless, because I know, you know what
extra trust, your extra trust, your life is actually interdimensional
life and there in which we know as demons, yeah,

(01:17:33):
or the you know, the fallen And unless they're doing
this as like as like the Great Alien Deception by
you know, send sending one of their craft through the
through the Solar system, I believe it's just an object.

(01:17:56):
We we have no basis for identifying, like just we've
never seen anything like it. It doesn't be within our science.
So he can't describe it other than you know, literally,
there's more that we don't know than what would we do.

Speaker 4 (01:18:16):
I find it interesting though, that there's there was a
TV show and I don't remember how many years ago
I was we talked a little bit about this on
Jacked Up Daily, But there's a TV shore talking about
Atlas and this was they were talking about it years
before this, and it's very much the same. So I'm like, well,

(01:18:37):
that's kind of weird, like predictive programming or a coincidence.
But I don't think they put out hardly anything that's coincidence.
I mean, you know, there is that spiritual world where
you know Satan can certainly he knows what's going to
happen and it come about right because there's a.

Speaker 5 (01:19:00):
Lot of it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
And God allows it too. So it's just putting the
connections together, like did they really know this was going
to happen? Or is this, like you say, part of
the deception, which I do believe really is part of
the deception project Atlas Atlas, I've never heard of it.

Speaker 9 (01:19:20):
It's Atlas Grace.

Speaker 11 (01:19:23):
Don't say that word to anybody ever.

Speaker 9 (01:19:27):
The name is simply that it refers to the third
interested our object object from outside the Solar system that
is visiting US and Atlas is a telescope half a
meter in diameter in Chile that discovered it on July first,
twenty five.

Speaker 8 (01:19:43):
Professor Project Lian I got a hit.

Speaker 5 (01:19:46):
You got a hit.

Speaker 9 (01:19:47):
I'm going back to bed and if you're lucky, I
won't remember this in the morning. They asked me to
wake up at three am to speak with them, and
I actually woke up at the two am.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
There's a significant partibation, really continual simulations, and there's something
there that was not there three months ago.

Speaker 5 (01:20:03):
You know, a slight miscalculation could take the results. Wyn't
you give me the debt, I'll take a look. Yes,
i'd alry. I linet to your service.

Speaker 9 (01:20:08):
So I was up there and then I noted someone
sent me an email and said, then there is annoying
this that our object.

Speaker 11 (01:20:15):
Three months ago in the State Card Survey system that
catalogs Near Earth objects, NASA astronomer doctor Edward Acosta discovered
an asteroid seven kilometers wide out near Jupiter, large enough
to cause an extinction level of event.

Speaker 12 (01:20:29):
Professor Lobe suspects that it might actually be alien technology.
Scoping US out and for those who like a side
order of conspiracy theory with their servings of UFOs. He claims,
Bobby lob does that NASA is keeping critical evidence about
three I Atlas away from public view.

Speaker 1 (01:20:48):
Project Atlas Gracie was a weapon wielded by America using.

Speaker 5 (01:20:54):
My GDANS system.

Speaker 2 (01:20:55):
So Cutio's right, Atlas is a weapons program, Yes.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
Except the weapon.

Speaker 5 (01:21:02):
Was an asteroid.

Speaker 9 (01:21:04):
What was found, you know, and that's by multiple teams.
That are three papers on that. We found nickel, a
lot of nickel.

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
I have new information I can't waite.

Speaker 9 (01:21:16):
Initially we thought Samson was made of silicates porous rock,
but the collision this evening suggests it has an iron
court much denser than what we thought. The only place
where we found before much more nickel than iron, is
in alloys that we produce industrially, for example for aerospace applications.
So maybe the skin of this object is industrially produced.

Speaker 8 (01:21:42):
None of your ideas will work because the asteroid has
an iron core.

Speaker 9 (01:21:45):
And as of a few hours ago, the first hint
for a non gravitational acceleration, meaning something is affecting its
trajectory beyond gravity.

Speaker 5 (01:21:56):
Then can't you see our Matt was correct.

Speaker 4 (01:22:00):
The asteroid did move the trajectory. It hasn't changed.

Speaker 5 (01:22:05):
Exactly because it's a humming bird. Moved and then it
moved back.

Speaker 9 (01:22:14):
So the question was, you know, is it something other
than a natural object. It followed the trajectory that was
aligned with the planets around the Sun. So perhaps it's
on some reconnaissance mission. It's not a master right, perhaps

(01:22:36):
for a reason. You know, if it's a technological object,
that's the best time for it to do a maneuver
when it's closest to the Sun, to take advantage of
the Sun's gravity. That's what we do with our own spacecraft.
And so the question is real it appear on a
different path after passing close to the Sun, and of
course if that happens, you know, the stock market may

(01:22:57):
crash because it would mean that, you know, we have
some risk informed.

Speaker 4 (01:23:03):
It's not an asteroid, What the hell is it?

Speaker 5 (01:23:12):
Whatever it is, it's.

Speaker 4 (01:23:18):
Yeah, and so what it is exactly, I don't know,
but it very well could be part of the deception.
And you know as well as I do, Captain. You know,
they have that program not just a TV show, but
they have this the Dark programs that they can't you know,

(01:23:40):
tell people about the Project Bluebeam and that is so
sophisticated that that's not just a hologram. It looks so
real like it is a hologram, But it's more than that.
It's it's it's as if it's right there in one point,

(01:24:00):
they're going to use it on people, if they haven't already.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Yeah, I was. I always looked at Project Bluebeam. It's
like either they're gonna fake christ Second Coming, or they're
gonna fake an alien invasion, or they're going to do
both the above. Right, I know the drone technical knowledgy
that that we have now even that's open to the public,

(01:24:26):
how much more are they able to do with.

Speaker 4 (01:24:28):
How much how much more are they able to do
with the Project Bluebeam?

Speaker 5 (01:24:32):
Right right now? Three Eye out lists is basically just
means it's the third interstellar object discovered by the Atlas
the Als observatory. So there's been comments and asteroids named Atalyas,

(01:24:56):
but it's only refers to the observatory that discovered it.

Speaker 4 (01:25:01):
Okay, So yeah, I again, I don't know exactly what
it is, but there's so many possibilities. But they're saying,
like you said, some are saying it's a mothership and
it's it's delivering other little uh spaceships or what have you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:24):
Yeah, I haven't seen the evidence of that though in
the pictures that I have seen, although the three objects,
I saw what mister BBB did with it. And he
takes the image of the image given to us by NASA.

Speaker 4 (01:25:45):
Oh we can trust them, right, Yeah, we'll go on
and he.

Speaker 5 (01:25:52):
Changes the color gradient. It's like he'll see he'll take
and show the inverse of the of the colors and
we can actually see, you know, it looks like three
objects in the center and this object is supposedly emitting
more light than the sun without the heat signature. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:26:17):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
But the the Mars of the satellite we have around
Mars right now was able to pick up three eye
at list, but NASA wasn't releasing any any pictures or
video because of the government shutdown, and we still really

(01:26:41):
haven't received anything, although we will. You know, independent observers
were able to pick it up after it was after
it went behind the sun. Yeah, it's at a very
weird angle too. It's uh, it's almost readied our ellipsis ellipses,

(01:27:04):
but it's uh when it came in slightly higher, let's
believe it's slightly lower, so it's almost ran at the ellipses,
which is weird. And how close it came to Jupiter
was insane in the in the flight path.

Speaker 4 (01:27:25):
Wow, I didn't know all that. But I don't know
when it's supposed to do or what it's supposed to do.
But I don't know. I just I just find it
very interesting of what it is, what it could be.
And then I haven't heard much about it the last
few days, so I don't know what it's doing right now.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
Well, news is kind of you know, trailed off because
you know, we really haven't gotten any new information on it.
I'm saying people are kind of bored, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:28:00):
They're waiting for it, right.

Speaker 5 (01:28:04):
But the crazy thing was three Ilis was coming through
our solar system along with multiple different comments too, so
we had and I can't remember the the commas name
names there was, but there were three other comments comments

(01:28:24):
that were coming through the solar system. Those were actually comments.
They actually did have a tail, right, and one was
the brightest table we've ever had in the comment.

Speaker 4 (01:28:37):
Well that's cool.

Speaker 5 (01:28:39):
But once once there were three I three, iallis when
around the Sun and they said that it didn't speed up.
They just kind of stuffed it at that because NASA
can't explain it. They keep saying it has the tail,

(01:28:59):
but it doesn't have the tail. Never did, and MOA did,
so I'm they're perplexed.

Speaker 4 (01:29:11):
Well, if NASA's perplexed, that's something huh. Yeah, they always
make something up, so I don't know. That is interesting.
And the last thing I want to get your thoughts
on is just recently, I think this past week, Trump

(01:29:32):
is pretty close, if not have already been named the
Chair for Peace for the United Nations. I think that's significant.
Have you heard about this?

Speaker 5 (01:29:46):
Yeah, he stopped nine wars since he's been in office.

Speaker 4 (01:29:50):
Well, I think only Russia and China have not voted
either way, but the rest of them are, or many
of them Melts has and they've voted him as the
the Chair for Peace for the United Nations. And I'm like, wow,
what could that mean? Does that mean after his presidency

(01:30:14):
he takes over or he goes to the United Nations
or is he that currently? Is he going to be
that currently while he's a president?

Speaker 5 (01:30:23):
Well, Obama broke the law when Obama sat as uh
do you on chair while he was president. You can't
hold do you want to considered a foreign government? That's
what I thought, right, And you can't sit as president

(01:30:45):
and sit on a foreign government at the same time.
But it's it's nice to know that the recognized Trump
as you know, a peacemaker. He is the peace making presid.

Speaker 11 (01:31:02):
Now.

Speaker 5 (01:31:03):
I know a lot of people say, well that dancer
Christ he's you know, he's making all these pieces. You
had no high accord and all these other things. He needs,
bring a piece to Middle East. He is to an extent,
like there's not much more he can do other than

(01:31:25):
what he's already done. And it's it's going to be
kind of like a uh, it's the Palestinians are going
to miss the ape again. It's not a it's not
a seven year piece. It's gonna be like maybe a
year or two. But you know, it's to get this prepared,

(01:31:52):
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:31:53):
But I guess you could say it could be the groundwork,
right right, Yeah, like.

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Because I mean the system is already kind of shaping
up with the EU and how it breaks. You know,
Trump's trying to do what he can to kind of
slow bricks down.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Yeah, like with the.

Speaker 5 (01:32:22):
I don't want to call a soft warts. It's a
hot war. It's not a but it's not really a
war with Venezuela. Oh yeah, it's not about drug traffic.
It's a part of it, and Trump stopped it. But
he's also trying to kind of put a block on

(01:32:43):
the oil in Venezuela. Not that we want the oil,
but to kind of put us stop to bricks. Because
Venezuela is a bricks nation, and it breaks forms and
becomes the reserve currency of the world, the petro dollar,

(01:33:10):
the United States loses our supernation status because right now
the dollar is a reserve currency of the world, so
or what they call the petro dollar, right right, But

(01:33:32):
if they if they'll pack and that stops creating in
the dollar, our dollars can tank even more than what
it is currently. Wow.

Speaker 4 (01:33:48):
Well, I mean and and uh, you know, crypto is
getting there, and I don't know, I think all of
this is coming towards something that could be and I'm
not saying it is or will be, but it would
be some type of one world currency at some point,
and that is it's it's on the trajectory. It seems

(01:34:09):
like going that way.

Speaker 5 (01:34:12):
Yeah, I didn't realize. I didn't realize this until I
noticed that bitcoin is is plummeting. It is it is.

Speaker 4 (01:34:23):
I've noticed that too.

Speaker 5 (01:34:25):
Uh. And some of several people have said if you
bought if you bought bitcoin, you're gonna have to answer
for that. And I didn't know what they were talking
about until I read that Satoshi, the guy that created bitcoin,

(01:34:47):
he may not have existed. Oh but Jeffrey Epstein had
actually created or funded bitcoin.

Speaker 4 (01:34:57):
Well that's something that I didn't know talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
Yeah, but it just recently came out, Like there's as
soon as I found out I sold my my thirteen
dollars a bitchcoin, I had a whole bunch, but the
creator of bitcoin had just disappeared. The Satoshi and another

(01:35:24):
saying that that was like an uh like a like
an alias of ebscene and the people that Epstein had
put certain people in control of establishing bitchcoin and getting going.
So there's uh, there's there's a lot. Basically, it was

(01:35:51):
they wanted a bitcoin and crytical currency to be controlled
by the government to where at any time the CIA
could just dump or shut down back points. Now we
know now that Epstein was an asset of the CIA,

(01:36:12):
along with the Massad. Yeah, the you know Israeli CIA.

Speaker 4 (01:36:20):
Right, the bad guys if you will, of Israel, yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (01:36:26):
I I love Israel, but I don't like Israel's government, right. No,
I don't like any governments at all, because you know,
I I believe that government is chosen by God. But
when you have a government, it's inherently evil. It's how

(01:36:53):
do we explain this. It's it's not that God. God
chooses our leaders and he advised them like Trump. I
dontly believe he's advising Trump, whether Trump knows it or not.
But in the totality of government, like our Congress and

(01:37:17):
our judges and our Senate, they are acting on their
own for their own will, right, you know, so a
lot of corruption happens. Then you have the freemason side
of it. We have all these government buildings, even the

(01:37:41):
entire city of Washington, d C. Was set up in
a massagic symbol. You have the belief that George Washington
was a deity, which I don't see that at all.
He was a very righteous man.

Speaker 11 (01:38:01):
He was.

Speaker 5 (01:38:03):
He was Christian. He wasn't as they always want to
say that our faunding fathers was Diis. They weren't Diis.
They were Christian even though they had him, they had
they had to be uh Masonic members. They had to
be part of the Masonic lodge because that's the old

(01:38:27):
law from England. But George Washington, he was a Christian
and there was an Indian chief bank when he was president.
In not finding the Revolutionary War or the War of Independence,

(01:38:47):
they said, you know, I want to see the man
that I shot seventeen times, and I'm a good marksman
and I know those hit but they didn't it. I
want to see the man who I shot that's still
walking today. Wow, it's not talked about history because they

(01:39:13):
don't want to acknowledge the fact that, you know, Christian
they exists and miracles do happen. But you know, yeah,
George Houshton was a very very spiritual and righteous man.
He was, you know, a very DeVault Christian. But yeah,

(01:39:34):
they they set up there the all the capitol buildings
in the United States are just set up to resemble
a Masonic temple.

Speaker 4 (01:39:44):
Yes, yeah, and you know you see like the pentagon
is a shape as a pentagon, and uh you know
you see like that, oh I don't know what is
The Statue of Liberty is supposed to be some kind
of goddess. I don't know. There's a lot of rabbit
holes through all that.

Speaker 5 (01:40:04):
It's supposed to be Lucifer.

Speaker 4 (01:40:06):
There you go.

Speaker 5 (01:40:07):
Yeah, I knew it was a cross dressing Lucifer.

Speaker 4 (01:40:11):
I knew it was something.

Speaker 5 (01:40:13):
Because if you look at Seture Liverty's face, it's not
a woman's face. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:20):
I don't know what you think about all that, because
you know, I don't know what to think. But that's
it's very interesting when they come up with that stuff.
Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:40:32):
Yeah, it literally goes back to even even before, like
when Christopher Columbus came to America, although he wasn't the
first of who was it. I think his name was
Aspushy Americana or something along those lines. It basically was
the condoms named after. But then I heard that the

(01:40:56):
continent was named after South American dedy. I think, hmmm.
I don't know. There's a lot of weird stuff around
the founding of America. But ever since Christopher Columbus came over,

(01:41:17):
they obsessed about America. In uh in Europe, they the
the idea, the the old thought that they thought the
earth those flat was wrong. They didn't believe they are
those flat. They just didn't believe there's or they knew
about the New world before Christopher Columbus sailed. But they uh,

(01:41:46):
because we even America has been used several times even
in the Biblical time like that the minds of Solomon,
and where did Egypt get all the iron to do
with the stuff they do? And there's been an archaeological

(01:42:08):
finds of higher glypts even in Michigan here because we
have a large uh, we just have huge iron minds
in the up and the uppera pensilea yea, and huge
copper deposits. And we have a huge salt mine in Detroit.

(01:42:33):
It's a whole underground city. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:42:37):
Oh yeah, oh yeah, next time we next time we
get together, we got to talk about some bunkers. That'd
be fun. Oh man, Well, hey, Captain Epoch, I want
to thank you for joining the show today. I'm going
to let you go and enjoy your grandkids and guys,
just remember to keep him in prayer. I know God

(01:42:59):
is healing him. But continued prayer for Captain Epoch, so
he get back on the air and giving us some
really good stuff and God's moving in his life. But
keep him in your prayers. I appreciate that. Hey, brother,
I would just say a prayer and I'll let you go. Okay,
my friend, Okay, all right, Dear Lord, I want to

(01:43:19):
pray right now for Captain Epoch and the ministry that
you've forgiven him, and just I also pray for his
family and his body and the things that you're doing
in his life, and just heal his body, Lord, as
only you can. And all this medicine and prescriptions are good,
but only you are the healer. So please, Lord, I

(01:43:41):
pray that you continue to help him and heal his
body and in your time, of course it's your will.
And I appreciate Captain Epoch so much as he's been
a good brother in Christ to me. And just thank
you for him and his family and just bless them.
And I pray that the message of the Gospel gets

(01:44:07):
out to all those that are listening. That Jesus Christ
is the only one that could save. He died on
the cross for our sins so that we wouldn't have
to and all we have to do is accept his grace,
the free gift of his grace and mercy. We have
faith in him and we will be saved. And we

(01:44:29):
just thank you for this in Jesus name. Amen. Amen,
all right, my brother, I appreciate you being on the show,
and again, enjoy your family and God bless you.

Speaker 5 (01:44:41):
I appreciate it. Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
If folks remember being this world but not of this world,
so long, everybody.

Speaker 11 (01:45:03):
Just.

Speaker 13 (01:45:06):
Justus. I think it still sad. Question just a.

Speaker 4 (01:45:54):
Side call, know that.

Speaker 5 (01:46:00):
So slightly. Where to go.

Speaker 4 (01:46:09):
Says just shout.

Speaker 13 (01:46:15):
I think it's done to go.

Speaker 1 (01:46:19):
Out number.

Speaker 13 (01:46:23):
See us, US, US.

Speaker 8 (01:47:58):
US, So.

Speaker 4 (01:48:24):
Thank you for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:48:25):
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