December 2, 2025 • 62 mins
Darius Wright returns to the show with one of the most mind-expanding conversations we’ve ever recorded. He claims to investigate “what secret programs once sought to study, Darius reaches through his own natural ability to separate awareness from the body with full consciousness, perceiving both the physical and the non physical in real time.” A truly unique thinker and quiet futurist, Darius continues to push the boundaries of human potential.
Learn more about his work and see other interviews at https://DariusJWright.com
See part 2 on Substack at https://SarahWestall.Substack.com
Learn more about his work and see other interviews at https://DariusJWright.com
See part 2 on Substack at https://SarahWestall.Substack.com
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Speaker 4 (01:00):
We were born here, so the resources of this place
is for those that are are born here, which inherit
the land, you could say. And so the simple fact
that you're born here and you have to earn and
pay to live. I mean, we're the only beings or
creatures here that have to do that. So this is
what I said before. They've made an artificial system that
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was already set up before you were born here to
have these systems of control in place to make people
think that it's normalcy, but it's actually a very sick acidey.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Welcome to business game Changers.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
I'm Sarah Westall, I have various right coming back to
the program, He's really unique in how he perceives the
world and he he has these out of body near
death experiences that he has and he explains it and
how he.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I've put this in context.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I've been talking to people who.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Have had near death experiences and what I found.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I did some research on it, and there was a
study where a thousand people with a thousand people that
had near death experiences, and every single one of them
came back feeling that they of complete love, they felt
at peace, and every single one of them came back
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spiritual of some way, not necessarily religious, but spiritual. Even
if they were an atheist before that, they became spiritual.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And they all talked about.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
How amazing it was one hundred percent, And I think
it's really inspirational. I think it shows that there's so
much more to us than what we're experiencing in our flesh.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
And if you're Christian or if you're a religious person,
you're taught that right, you know, but you're not necessarily
taught it in this kind of inspirational way of people
who have had these experiences and what they say about
our life here and there, and.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Darius been able to do this.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
He claims multiple times experience what it's like on the
other side and then share it with people, and that
he's made it his life mission.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
To explain to people what those.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Experiences are about and what life itself is about.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And he's on a.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Mission to help people understand that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
There's so much more to who we are. And he
says it all.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Comes down to love and being your authentic true self
and what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And he explains that freedom is love. You know, the
essence of freedom is love.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
The essence of control is the opposite. Obviously, if you
have a child, you control them in a situation where
they might get hurt, that's love. But then the desired
control someone not from love, but just to control them
at your expense, at your desire for your benefit, is
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the opposite of that. And he explains how he got
to this point, all the way back to the time
he was seven, and then when he was thirteen, and
then when he was sixteen, and then he came to this,
whatever your beliefs are, I think this is an inspiring
conversation and it's worth having, it's worth exploring, and he's
I think he hits a nerve with people, Like I've
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told him in the shoulders, a lot of people that
follow his work, they like to know more about him and.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
What he's about.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I don't know if everything he says is true. I mean,
how could I know? And how does I ask him
during the interview where does astrology fit in? And where
does the religion fit in?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
And where?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
And so we have these conversations with all those different topics.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I hope you enjoy this conversation.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I'm going to have him back every really like him,
and I'm going to be exploring different concepts like this,
because why not?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Why are we limited?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Why do people limit you in what you're able to explore?
You know, last time I had him on, I had
so many negative comments. I mean they just were mean
and nasty, and so I don't think I think those
were bots, because it makes no sense, as somebody who
follows him that you would have this nasty idea. You know,
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you would want to be nasty and say these mean things.
People who follow his work don't want to behave that way.
So I think there is a bot army that was
following him around because it was the only show I
had in months that had negative comments like that, and
many of them. So I think it's so be careful
if you see a whole bunch of negative comments underneath.
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I turned off the comments when I reposted this show
on YouTube because I was so amazed at what.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Was going on.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
So if you see this time, I'm going to turn
him on again. If you see it just a school
of negative comments, know that it's disconnected to what were
If we're really talking about love and how you project
love and what love is about, and this is all
about all the then this is a total disconnect. The
negative comments then that you know there's some kind of
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bot attack or something going on. It doesn't make sense, right,
And I always think that if somebody is trying to
tell you they love and care about you, but you
need to be inferior and you're equal in the eyes
of God, but you need to be in this oppressive role,
that's that's.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
There's something odd about that. You have to question that, right,
that's not.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
This is no, this is wrong. That's the teaching is wrong.
It is so it's like teaching that. It's like saying
that slavery is right. They used to teach that slavery
was okay, because the Bible said it was okay, and
that you are still equal in the eyes of God.
You're still a member of this family, but you were
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ordained a slave for the rest of your life. No,
that's not how this works, right. The whole point is
that we need to live in a way that enables
us to flourish and for the people around us to flourish.
And that's what love is. You want others to flourish.
You're not afraid of somebody being better than you. If
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you're afraid of your children being better than you, then
you're not living in a loving way. If you're so
afraid of somebody being better than you that you will
destroy them. I think there's healthy competition, right. I don't
want to compete about to getting somebody, but if somebody
truly beats me, like, well, that's great, you did great.
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But if your goal is to just destroy people so
that you can dominate or you can just control the situation,
then your path is misguided.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So I love this conversation. Hopefully you do too. At
least get your thinking. Even if you don't agree with
any of it, then at least it gets you thinking.
And if it's.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Something that that inspires you and you want to learn more,
as he says, go find more of his interviews.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
That's what he likes to do. And so before we
get into that, since we.
Speaker 6 (08:12):
Are going to be talking about freedom, I want you
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and I said, no, I want to interview you, So
I had him on my show. Now he's become a
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com slash Miles Franklin. Let's get into this amazing com
this very interesting conversation I have with Darius right now.
It's long, so I'm gonna put part of it on
(10:04):
my substack and you can go to my substack at
Sarah Westall dot substack dot com and you can sign
up for that there and I will have the rest
of the interview here, So I'll be part one here
and part two on my substack. Okay, let's get into
this amazing conversation I have with Darius.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right, Hi, Darius, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yes, thanks for having me back. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Well, the first one was pretty incredible and it did
really well. I had all these people contacting me, Oh my.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Gosh, sir, can you tell them this? Can you reach
out to them?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you have a lot of people that follow you
and your work, and I was pretty oppressed with how
you know, how many people actually like follow you around
and want to learn.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
From you, which is great. When anybody has a.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Loyal following, you start going okay, well.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's pretty cool and they've been following you for years.
So getting in there into that, when did you get.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Started in this near death experience that you're teaching?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You're actually teaching people how to do this. What is
your background and how did you get into this?
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Yeah? So the background with.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's very important to understand is if even from a child,
I was doing doing these things, seeing things and doing
a lot more things in the background than people realize.
So it'll makes sense when I explain this into then currently,
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because if I don't explain that past, then it's sort
of like just fast forward it doesn't make sense. But
from a young child, like seven years old, I was
being showing certain things through keeping abilities active. So whether
if that is giving an example like intuitive abilities reading energy, seeing,
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trying to see beyond the physical light spectrum physically, so
people classify that a scene ors or whatever, or or
judging the environment based off what the energy is there.
So a lot of people will be present in the environment,
but you know what they say physically the surface level
isn't actually how they feel. So it's tuning into those things.
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As a young child, I remember even getting you know,
with my uncle for instance, like he would set up
a piece of paper on the table and he would
just have it free standing, like you know, with a
paper clip or whatever, and we would just practice, like
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you know, in front of it, what are hands, there
are electromagnetic field to try to make it move at
some form or fashion and then pushing it back, pushing
it back. So that was the type of stuff that
I was doing from a child. So then when you
go into thirteen fourteen years old, I was already studying
the whole Federal reserve, banking system, the debt slavery system,
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how the straw man from like thirteen fourteen, and so
I understood how how the Federal Reserve and the monetary
system was working in the military industrial complex and how
that was all influencing and controlling the masses.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Here thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Was your parents involved in or was it just you
just kind of on your own.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Knowing it's knowing and then also also not being.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Shut down.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I won't necessarily go into the personal with that,
because some you could say, on the other side of
the family didn't necessarily believe certain things that I was saying.
But from thirteen to fourteen, I was studying all these things,
and so I realized that.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
That the that the issue.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
The issue was, Okay, well, they with the federalies or
banking system, and the federalies are system and all these
things they were trying to access. And you could say
they have access to version a distorted version of what
they call the zero point, which is infinite supply of
energy through through the through the fake currency and commerce.
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You see, and so then they use the people in
that form their energy through the through the fake dollar,
to perpetuate constantly a zero point energy supply for them
to do as they will. And so from that age fifteen,
I was actually pointing this out to my mother. I
was like, Okay, so you see this, you see this,
this is how reality is, and et cetera.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Were they normal human beings just human beings like us
that are doing this or some are they?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Well maybe I Q can answer that later, keep going, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I'll get to that later in it. But so
then we fast forward to sixteen years old, and this
is when at that point in my life, knowing what
I know and was researching and finding out and just
memories too.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
I made.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I made, you could say, a grand statement. So picture
me at sixteen at someone at fifty years old, you know,
just having enough when they have all this knowledge and
you you have this, have these individuals that have been
in the freedom fighting movement for years and I've gotten
to the state. But you know, at sixteen, I was
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there and I said, you know, I want to know
what the purpose of this is. So I'm here, what
is the purpose of all of this? Like so I'm
learning this information. If I don't understand the purpose for
me for being here, then I'm going to leave. And
it was an ultimatum. It's showed me or else. I
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will figure it out anyways, because if you don't show me,
I will take myself out and go back to the
other side and figure out all the information that I'm seeking.
And it wasn't a when I made that statement. It
wasn't a statement of maybe sort of kind of. It
was a ultimatum, tell me or else, and there is
no changing my mind at that point. And in that
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time I had my first near death experience, or what
I say now is out of body state too, because
I was taken outside of what we call the universe
and what people call the universe, which is the construct
and I was able to see how everything worked and operated,
and I was being shown these things again. I was
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being shown how time works, how the infinite creation of
constructs and reality, these and universes are manifested in the
purpose of each individual soul. And I was even showing
future events what people would call prophetic visions or prophecies
that would come true, and funnily enough, at sixteen to
where I am now you know, years and years later,
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I'm actually in this environment that I'm in. The place
that I'm at right now is the same exact place
at that which I'll shown when I was sixteen years
old in that vision with certain people in my life
that I had no concept of at the time. I
remember even she was showing me the dog that I
have now, Leley. It's a Border Collie, and I was like, well,
why is there an animal here? She was showing me
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all of these things like it was like movie trailers,
like getting visions and flashes of what is to come,
and here I am now all these years later, and
everything that was shown to me has come true.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
See the future now?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yet you can see the future event? Yes you can,
and it's happened to me many times to the out
of body state doing this, But it's not time. Future
events are you have two versions of them. You have
fixed events and then you have potentialities. So let's just say,
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for instance, a fixed event is every single soul here
is going to wake up to the other side and
see all things again, whether if that's through dying or
through out of body state or what have you. They
will eventually access all knowledge and their divinity again, and
so potentialities of time is the basically what decisions do
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you make that basically lead you to that final destination
anyways you see, so whether that's going in this path
that path, but you could see these things. I remember
many times. I'll give you one example, but going through
my process shutting down my body and then I'm on
the couch because I like to be isolated when I
do this, and then I see someone someone close to me.
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Basically as I'm coming out, I see them walk past
as if they're physically walking past, and I'm observing this,
and then I come back into my body, and then
I come back into my body. And then when I
wake up from that, I actually see I wake up
and I come right back up. I sit up, and
then here she is walking exactly how I see in it.
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So time is not a linear thing. You can access past, present,
and potential potential time. It's very much more not solidified
as what we think it is. Because right now you
could think of going into the past, and therefore you're
already in the past because it's time is still accessible
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to you in that way. But when you are accessing
more of your energy field more of the light spectrum,
which we can only access one percent, When you access
to the one hundred percent of it, and you'll see
that all of the things that seem like they are
airy fairy or mysticism or woo woo is actually quite real.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know, we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Science behind us.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
There's a science behind that, right, I mean it's not yes,
and we might not understand it.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I have a few people who are pretty.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Advanced that I talked to and like you in their
endeavors of trying to figure out what reality is.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
And one of them.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Very highly respected scientists, which is pretty interesting. But he's
very much into understanding what the world is really about.
He's very different than most people. And he told me
I just kept nailing him on some things. I won't
I don't want to give away who this person is
because I don't think he'd want to people to know
where he's at this way, but at least publicly.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
But he said to me that once people.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Understand what this world is really about, they truly get
to that point of why we're here. He says, about
half of them decide they don't want to stay here anymore,
and they just go back. Is that true in your experience,
because going on is so much better and I don't
want and see it people taking their life.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I don't want to talk about it like that.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
You know, people who had near death experiences, Like my
sister was talking about it when she was going through
this Reese. She's a doctor and she was looking at
this and a thousand people study of people that almost died,
you know when they came back, and they all came
back with being spiritual of some sort, and it was
beautiful and peaceful and loving. And so that's what he
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was trying to tell me. And not everybody can, like
they're not able to either.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But can you.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Answer that in a way that's not I'm not encouraging
that in any way, shape or form, But you know what.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I'm saying, Yeah, well, well I'm going to say two things.
One is that.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You'll find the the the reason why there's there's a
there's a lot of people that follow that that what
I'm saying is because the I I've actually shown people
how to what near death experiences. I've shown people how
to access that same state controlled And you know, I
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brought this up with you in the other other uh
interview that we did. But a classical one is David
David Ebel. These testimonies, I think eighty two is David Ebel,
and he's had near death experiences, he's died, and he's
had out of body states. He's he's confirming those things.
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So it's you know, maybe that's even someone as well
to have on Yeshah. I don't know if you want
to talk to him or not, but he would be
able to even confirm that as well with you. But
the when when you when you access the other side
your true home, yes you want to stay there because
we think that this is this is a life, and
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yes it is life, but the true life is is
that which you came from before you were born here
in limitations to the physical body. So when you're there,
you are no longer limited by the physical The physical body,
which you could say in quotations like the physical bodies
of prison for the soul in a sense, because it
gives the illusion of limits when the soul is a
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unlimited being and it is the infinite. So because the
soul is the infinite, it can never be bound or
limited unless you believe it to be so.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
And so when you're.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
There, you you taste that you taste the infinite, the infinite,
the joy of I am, which is eternal you, which
you could be and do whatever it is that you
desire and wish to do based off what you will
will will to do.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What is the point of being here? Then? And I
know that's what.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
You struggled with when you were you know, absolutely, Yeah,
why the hell am I here? Then?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I mean, can you articulate that or is it hard
to even articulate it for a person who doesn't quite
get it.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Probably it's going to be difficult to understand, but I'll
try to articulate it in the way that it was
shown to me how I experienced it. So, going back
to sixteen, when I was showing that this is what
I returned to, there was this when you look back
at your life here, it's almost like only seconds has passed.
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And I knew in that very moment that this is
so temporary and I and I exist for eternity in forever,
and this is what I'm always returning back to no
matter what. That to come back here and show love
is the point. And you'll find this a lot in
near death. What you brought up to near death experiences.
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Why do certain individuals they like it there and they
want to stay there, but why do they choose make
the decision to come back? And you'll find all the
time it has to do something related to love. I
want to love more, I don't want to leave my family,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
So this is almost a gift.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
It's a gift to be here because you're given the
ability to evolve your frequency or learn something that you
couldn't learn any other in at home.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Well, yes, yes, in.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Otherwise why would you do it? Right?
Speaker 6 (25:38):
I mean, because if you've got nothing out of it,
why bother?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, Well, this gives you the the experience of what
you are not through the physical body, the limitations. So
to experience that which you are not gives you a
certain perceptional wisdom that would have never and birth unless
it was experienced. So you could say, to to understand
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the truth fullness of unconditional love. When you experience the
unlovable events, you step into the highest form of unconditional
love through seeing what love is not. Because if you've
never seen what love is not, and you have nothing
to compare it to then you're an all infinite being,
knowing being. Not If you're an all knowing being but
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you have no experience of what it's like to experience
not being an all knowing being, then you're an all
knowing being not right, So you need.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
To experience But you also do you need to experience suffering?
Do you need to experience ignorance? You need to experience
all these things you're supposed to You're supposed to experience
that which you have not experienced before.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Novelty if you will well.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
This based off what I was shown, This place that
we're in, this universe creation that we're in, is the
only one that gives you that form of illusion of separation,
because when you're home, back home on the other side,
you are able to manifest places, you could say heavens
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within heavens that that when you step into these many
different creations, you don't forget who you are and you
never lose that that that separation. For instance, like you
know that you were you are who you are from
the beginning, that you're connected to the all of all things,
and you know all things, and you're stepping into certain
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things to experience the infinite. But here gives you the
illusion of not being the infinite in finite you see.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
So are there other classes like this that we participate
in or is this.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
This is the like I said, based off what I
was showing, based off what I what I could say, yes,
I know that to be one hundred percent true based
is yes, this one, this what we're in is the
is the one that gives you that separation of the
illusion of separation to the degree that it is here.
And within that separation you have experiences that are unforeseen events.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Two.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
So I mean we're going into the I mean to
to understand this fully what I'm saying, it's it's really
taking everything that you think how people think logically, like
pulling that all out and going trying to go back
to the source of all things, like the the highest
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state for people that are Christian, God and all loving,
all knowing being, you know, He loves all things and
he gives you the space to be and do whatever
it is so that your soul could could grow essentially.
And so this is like very very you know, a paradox.
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You could say it's a paradox because then when you
come in here, it's like okay, well, I'm suffering. Did
I agree to suffer? And then well, there's no such
thing as a good or bad thing. It's just an experience.
But there is good and bad, and this is where
you go into the paradox, and this where you go
into what we're talking about is the highest level of truth.
But then as you get that separation, then you have
these mind made the mind mental constructs to try to define, Well,
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there's a beginning to my body, so therefore there must
be a beginning to my soul. But there was a
never a beginning to your soul. So you need to
step outside of the thinking of the mind and go
back into just knowing of the soul.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
It's quite yeah, that's all I'll say there, I guess.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
So let's get back to I have a bunch of
other things I want to talk about, but let's get
back to your need to understand the banking and who's
behind it and why it's being done. I would imagine
many of the people in the system don't even know.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What they're part of.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
They're just like not just people who are having experience.
But is there more of a mastermind? And who are
they just humans or what are they? If they're actually
using that system as a source of energy.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
So so the the what what.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I found through all of my experiences, accumulating everything that
that i've that I know today is that the people
that are in control are pretty much just like us
people that have fallen out of love. So just understanding
that that foundation first, Now these same individuals that have
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fallen so far out of love, they they've they've they
basically mhm Okay, first you have the First, you have
the soul. So the soul, let's just say, it cannot
be limited. It's the infinite. Then you have the creation
of the physical body, which gives you the illusion of limits.
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And then you have the spirit, which is memories. And
also thought forms can make a negative spirit or what
they call demon within you or or or thought forms
are are are are spirits are also forms of thought forms.
So I know this is this is going to sound
like I'm going in this direction. How is it's going
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to make sense? But let me just explain it all
and then bring it back full circle. Now, when you
when you have, for instance, scientifically proven that we have
an electromagnetic field, and they I believe and you can.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Probably pull this up.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
People can pull this up, but they could actually see
your instruments to measure thoughts, so they could actually see
it or whatever. So when you think of something and
it's still you're projecting that into the space just outside
of your visual light spectrum to perceive it are decoded,
but it still is real.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Now, these people that have fallen so far out of love,
they become very demon like and you could say, manifest
it through their thought forms, many bad spirits, which the
spirits don't have control over the soul. But it's it's
basically your your belief in the very thing itself gives
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it the very power and control, not the control of you,
it's your belief in it. So these people that are
controlling the governmental systems, they've put a lot of thought
forms into things, making you believe in the in the
very systems themselves to govern you. But when you don't
put your belief in the government anymore, you walk away
from it into love and truth, then all of a sudden,
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government falls down and it disappears, you know, because all
of their systems are based off your will, your belief
in it.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Just like the currency.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
So in this why I said before, they're trying to
tap into an artificial form of the zero point through currency,
because it's your belief in the currency that gives it value,
not because it has any value to begin with. And
so this is what they've done from the physical sense,
to enslave the physical body. You see, they've made people
believe through negative spirits, their thought forms, projecting that into
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this artificial system to extract energy from people through their
own belief and their belief in the very governance in
the system, et cetera, just to tap into the artificial
zero point, trying to harvest you could say, your soul's energy.
But they can never touch your soul's energy. That's the
illusion part right there, because they're trying to they're trying
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to grab forms of your memory, your spirit, your will,
which if you give that to them, then yes, it
becomes an artificial illusion of this perpetual enslavement. Does that
make sense because that's from this that's from the understanding
of the soul to the physical of why it's actually
being done.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Do they conscious that No, I can understand the concept
behind that. But are they consciously building that system or
they built it being unconscious through their greed and.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Separation from love.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, yes, I mean, even your separation from love, they're
still conscious.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
But I mean, but is the system built on them?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Are they consciously building something that enslaves people or do
their is they're just not understanding that they're creating this
system because they are greedy, or.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
They want power, or they have other motives and they
don't understand what it is that they're part of.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know what I'm saying, Yes, yes, and it's both.
It actually is both. And the reason being is both
is because you have people that are in the know
that are addicted to control, and then you also have
people that are that are ignorant to all of these things.
But because of the very belief in it, they become
the participators in it without them even knowing that they're
participating in that very act. So it is it is
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it is both because.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I argue with the high level banker person who used
to work with the City of Wall Street, and it
was an interesting conversation, and this person was trying to
tell me that the people part of the system don't
realize they're part of it.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
The system is to blame.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
They said, no, there clearly are people that understand systems
that are nourishing it, building it, and keeping it going.
Because yes, I know, I've built systems before, and I mean,
I don't know about this type of a money system
that extracts energy. I don't know if they are consciously
aware of that versus they know what system that they're
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putting in place, they know how it controls people. I
just know there are people that are system level thinking
that do those things. And she argued with me, and
I guess I just didn't believe her, And that's why
I'm asking you. But you're even saying beyond the system,
you're even saying that they know that it extracts energy.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yes, yes, that that's that's that's what I'm saying as well. Yeah,
I mean the very fact too is that you well.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
We were born here.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
So the resources of this place is for those that
and that are are born here, which inherit the land,
you could say. And so the simple fact that you're
born here and you have to earn and pay to live,
I mean, we're the only beings or creatures here that
have to do that. So this is why I said before,
they've made an artificial system that was already set up
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before you were born here to to have these systems
of control in place to make people think that it's normalcy,
but it's actually a very sick society.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
So you know, the simple.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Fact that we have to pay to live that which
we were born until we have the right to this
place is that form of artificial means of extracting energy
through the artificial zero point, through currency, commerce, currency, language
like that. And that's why language is so important because
they use language also as spell casting too, and this
way you go into black magic and rituals, and you know,
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this is why even.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Part of.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
High level of occultist things and also what do you
call that, it's covenants, freemasonry and stuff. They understand the
power of spoken word and in the in the intention
behind that word.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
As well and what you believe in.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
And to give you a great example of this is
you there's been studies done on this too as well
to validate that which I'm saying. So it's not just
you know, mystical to people, but what you actually believe
and what you speak actually dictates the very waters and
sells within your physical body. You could even program and
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restructure water based off your very will in your belief
in when you speak to it. This is why the
placebo effect is even a placebo effect.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Institute showed that that was one of the groundbreaking work.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah yeah, so they they understand the the black magic
type of things. And this is why you even go
into the music industry too. This is why they use
a lot of spell casting through music. So it's very important.
But it's it's not just the it's not just the
words that are being used, but it's also the intention
behind the individual in that if they believe it, that
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gives it even more power because you know, I could say,
for instance, I'll give you an example, and this is
not true, but I could say I hate you. Now
that's a word, but that's actually not how I feel
about you. But if I use that word with the
intention of how I feel, then therefore it becomes a
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you could say, a more potent in its effect towards you.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
It's the intent that really matters, you know. The whole
karma thing, the idea that people can do whatever they
want as long as they tell people then they don't
have karma. I'm sure you've heard that they're afraid of karma.
So the occult pride, there's a religion where they can
do whatever they want as long as they tell people,
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then they're not affected by karma.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
And that gets back into I call bunk on all
of that because it's the intent.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
You can't have the intent of wanting to hurt somebody
and just tell them that you're going to hurt them
in a cryptic way. That's manipulative and assume that you're
not going to deal with ramifications of whatever it is
that you've done.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Because the intent has.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Always been to deceive and to harm.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That's the karma.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah, and I use I use this as well.
You cannot have unconditional love with the judgment and then
some people mistake what I say there with okay, well
then you can't point out what what is harmful? That's
not necessarily true because there's a difference between judgment and discernment.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
So so, yes, the all of these individuals are in
the no and it's the intention of that which they
do not necessarily from the high state of thing. They're
going to be judged for it in that way. But
there are consequences to actions there, right because well just consequences.
There's a cause and effects. So right now, if I
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push this, that's going to move. That's cause and effect.
So it's not you see, it's not necessarily like it.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
Is that in your your world and your experience. Do
we experience karma in another life? Or is that not
really inaccurate?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
No, no, it's not accurate. It's not accurate. And in this way,
karma implies that you are you are, You've done something,
so therefore now you're going to be bound to that
very act, and that's judgment, you see, So so you
cannot have unconditional love with a judgment, and judgment would
say this, It would basically say you've done an action,
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now you are equal to that very action, and you're
unworthy of anything else.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, you have to if there isn't karma, I'm going
to get creamed for cutting you off.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
But I need to clarify.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
If there isn't karma, then why does it matter what
we do?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Well, this is where I was. I was leading into that.
So what what happens is what happens is this when
so you have you have love and then you have evil.
Now where does love stem from?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (41:54):
What is the core love?
Speaker 5 (41:55):
What?
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Where's the frequency of that?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
And you'll find it always goes back to freedom and
you have all all of these different avenues expressions of freedom.
Love is a symptom of freedom. Joy is a symptom
of freedom. Fearlessness is a symptom. I think I said
that right is a symptom of freedom. Courage is a
symptom of freedom.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
You see.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
So, and that's all like unconditional love stuff. And then
you have evil, which is the root of all evil
is also the the the energy behind that is loss.
So you know, fear comes from loss. You know, the
root of fear is loss, and then you have fear, loss, regrets, suffering, pain,
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et cetera.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
But anger isn't just anger is not a symptom necessarily evil.
It could be a I mean, that's not but anyways,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, yeah, so it's I'll bring this all for full
circle again. But anger anger in the form of the
way that it's expressed in its intention. So anger in
the form of harming something, absolutely that's the form of evil,
and anger in the form of of like you're doing
something out of love. But that wouldn't be anger in
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the way that you perceive it because a lot of
people have anger now thinking that that's anger of evil,
but it's actually courage that's actually what they're feeling. It's
not really anger, it's courage. And they're mistaking they're mistaking
loving acts of anger with actually loving acts of courage
to change something.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
And so this is why the New Age propaganda has really.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Crippled people, because they put people in a state of
love where love is just do nothing and accept all things.
And you could say, yes, accept all things, but it's
also in a place of doing things, in the place.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
What love would do and protection, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, that's why I said that, That's why I wanted
to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Anger isn't what people think it is. But keep going.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Yeah, so when you understand those things that I said,
then you understand the very people that do things out
of out of fear, control, et cetera. Then they they
will experience on the other side, loss of judgment of themselves,
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et cetera. And so there is there is a consequence
too that and that consequence is them looking at themselves
and the greatest, the unforgivable sin is the sin that
you cannot forgive yourself for, and the regrettable is the
unforgettable on the other side, So you don't forget things
that you've done. So there's no form of judgment from
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an external source that will ever give them any more
hellish experience from the very judgment that they place on
themselves and the things they can't forgive themselves for. And
this is what is reflected to them when they leave,
when they leave this place. You know, it was reflected
to me in my past getting my life review. Like
It's the reason why I'm doing this and sharing all
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this information is because you will never escape yourself. You're
the only one that you can ever escape, and you're
always going to face yourself and the things that you've done.
But all things are forgiven too, even the most evil things,
and all that has ever been done is all forgiven
and all loved, all the same. But they are the
judges of themselves based off what they've done. Yes, and
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all acts done outside of love, you will experience lost
pain and regret everything. So yeah, when you see the
bad that's going on, you do things in the act
of love and protection, not in a place of sitting
back and just allowing. Because I'm pointing things out. This
is federalies are bankingess enslaving humanity. People will just say oh,
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wh do nothing? Well, no, just don't give your will
and belief in certain things and start doing things in
an act of love to progress humanity forward, do things
all in joy, keep on focusing on the highest state
of joy and fulfillment, on what you want to put
belief into, because then that will manifest that reality and paradigm.
It's the same reason why they've taken over mainstream media,
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because they want to dictate people's belief in certain things
to manifest a certain paradigm of fear, control, suffering, et cetera.
But if that whole paradigm was flipped into love and
joy and et cetera, then you'll find this place would
change overnight.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Yeah, the media really does the narrative the narrative, and
what you project is really what we are.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
It's it creates our reality. Okay, I asked you a question.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Can do you know who I am and what my
soul is on? Do we know each other on the
other side?
Speaker 5 (46:35):
And I'll check in what is the answer to that?
Speaker 7 (46:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yes, yes, So the one people will ask me certain
questions like that, and do I do I do I
remember you? Yes, I remember your signature, and I remember
a lot of other people's signature too, because the thing
is every single soul is always known to all souls,
so we we we all know each other on the
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other side. And and there's in in one when when
you do certain things in the state where you're conscious,
you're conscious enough you could recognize souls because we all
know each other. Everybody knows each other. So I recognize
the same divinity in you as I recognized the divinity
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in myself. So there's a remembrance there because I see
the acts that you do in love as well. So
it's an instant remembrance in that way.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
We h do we have soul groups?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Some come in here with certain groups. Yeah, yes, so.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
And does it repeat?
Speaker 6 (47:40):
Does it repeat like we repeat with the same groups
of souls.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Or don't you know? I mean you don't mean you no, no.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Sometimes because because I've I have experience with this of
for instance, my I'll just say, for the sake of
the conversation, lineage, I do have instant I remember that lineage.
You could say from certain parts of my family that
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I've known them forever and that we've done this forever,
and that.
Speaker 7 (48:17):
That's sort of what you could say.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
You're alluding to as well, or I was looting to
do you remember, yeah, because some people come in as
a as a as a clan as such, or a
group to do certain things. And this is where you
get certain waves of waves of people because everything is.
People don't necessarily come in here just willy dally, Okay,
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I'm coming into this. There is you, there is agreements made,
we know each other, and there are some collection of
souls that come in here as a group to sort
of anchor a certain field of energy, the certain felt
the energy. And this is why you'll find that one
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certain individuals die within that certain clan that they've come
in through. You'll find that sometimes you'll get this domino
effect of then everybody else leaving this place at the
same time very similarly, you see.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Because they've accomplished their mission of some sort.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Interesting, So do you remember or think you remember the
future of what some of.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
These events that are unfolding, because it seems like there
are there's.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Tremendous change going on right now, a lot of I
think there's a lot of pain in people too, which
actually pain can be good if it trendscends into people
evolving and doing something good. It seems like we are
at a precipice of major, major change.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yes, it's profound, and some of.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
It could just be because we can communicate in such
it much better ways, which is actually instigating a lot
of the change as well.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
But what.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Have you seen the future? Are we going to evolve
or what do you see? Or haven't you seen the future? No?
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I have seen, like I said, from sixteen, and it's
also been shown to me many times from to this
point as well. But you know, from that age I
was showing the freedom of all of humanity. Again, everything
in this place becomes free and there's a big celebration.
So right now, the only way that I could put
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a picture in your mind is think of the end
of all suffering, all of everything and true freedom for
every single person here. That's what's coming and what has happened.
And the reason why now there's this big friction is
because there has been people awake for a very very
long time, for years and years and years pointing certain
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things out and then people have pushed them underneath the
rug or what have you, whistleblowers, et cetera, et cetera.
But you see, when people are comfortable, sometimes they choose
to do nothing, and the comfortability is like a very
soothing thing where they're just like, well, I'm not going
to do anything because it's not it's not bothering me,
bothering me right now. But a lot of these individuals
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that have become so comfortable, they say that they want
truth or something or answers to something, but they're actually
just seeking comfort instead. Not because truth isn't always comforting.
Sometimes it could rub you the wrong way. And then
because it forces change sometimes too, you know, and because
people have placed so much value in money or systems
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of control, et cetera, et cetera, when that starts knocking
on the door of like okay, these things are starting
to get difficult and they're falling down, then that forces
them to see that which it always was was forms
of enslavement to track the energy in order to trying
to extract the energy from you. So that's what people
are seeing because all all these systems based off of
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controlling someone controlling something are not acts of love, and
those things fall at some point. And that's what I'll
strongly fall at some point because the only thing that
a rot that comes from this is all systems based
on love. There's technology out there through the patent system,
patent system that actually could solve a lot of the
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the energy needs of the of humanity. But you see,
if you have a person person A, person B, person
A has good intentions to bring that energy device forward
in love, that changes humanity versus person B has controlling desires.
Speaker 7 (52:52):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Then all that does is it still suppresses humanity and
controls them even though it's free energy. You see, so
all of these controlling things. The thing is, we have
everything right now in place with the technology that we
have everything. We have everything to make a paradise here.
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You can say a garden of Eden here.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
We have it now.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
But the only thing that's preventing that is a certain
consciousness in individuals that are wanting to bring that forward
and controller either love. And that's the only thing that's
the that's breaking down at the moment. All these fear
control based systems are just falling to replace it with
what the other side is, you could say, the laws
of the other side, which is love.
Speaker 6 (53:38):
Yes, there's an argument that if we had all free energy,
you know, we didn't have this money system, we didn't
have to work to make money or we didn't. That's
society itself one function, because the need to work is
what gives us. The people working in the ambulance is
the people building things. If you didn't have any, then
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you would have apathy. That is the counter argument to that.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. I mean
there there's always going to be some form of of
value value exchange. Understand where that's coming from as well.
But the thing is the the the value exchange isn't
necessarily going to be the way that we have it
currently because the value exchange that we have now is
already so controlled. Like this's just every every form of
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it is is controlled. But let's just go back to
let's just say the the do no harm for instance.
So if that if that was the if that was
the under based rule of all things do no harm,
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then you'll find that a lot of people would start
doing things in life, you know, actually free more things up.
Speaker 7 (55:01):
Not only that is.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
A lot of the things that you talked about too,
with like the medical system. There's so much things that
we could inherently do now within ourselves that people are
so unaware of. You see, the forms of technology are
expressions of that the eternal tech that we have within ourselves.
Speaker 7 (55:25):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
We have immortal genes within us, immortal genes and you
could say through the splice, through the through the DNA modification,
through vaccines, et cetera, tellingmere caps and what have you,
that they've been able to or or change as slightly,
But we still have genes within us that we are
the true eternal tech. Right now, we have a soul
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within this physical body that has access to the multi
dimensional reality of all of creation. And yet they have
secret programs such as Project looking Glass, which is technology
to try to see future events. But we have that
technology within us. So even with forms of technology, like
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I said, if they're brought forward, they should always at
some point return back to that which it originally was
in the past, where the technology supports the electromagnetic field
or the physical body and vice versa to turn these
things on within us. Because because someone with an illness,
for instance, not a not a doctor this et cetera,
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et cetera, but someone with an illness with the placebo
effect has been proven that they could they could fix
that based off the will and their belief.
Speaker 5 (56:40):
So what is your purpose here?
Speaker 7 (56:44):
What I'm doing what you're doing?
Speaker 6 (56:47):
And was that what you were driven to figure out? Like,
what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker 7 (56:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, since from sixteen like that was the that's approximate?
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Yeah, not just what am I part of? But why
am I part of this?
Speaker 7 (57:02):
Yeah? What is the whole point?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Like I said, at that point, I was just like
tell me now or else I will just figure it out,
because again, you have information, But then what's the point
of that information?
Speaker 5 (57:14):
Do you think that a lot of people like what
a lot of help is this?
Speaker 6 (57:21):
So a lot of the people that you work with
have gotten to that point and are like, I just
need to know what the hell this is because this
is really getting quite strange.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yes, yes, and no some people some people do come
with that, yes, but then some people just come with
a genuine desire to gather together and share, you know, So,
which is.
Speaker 6 (57:49):
Kind of one of the same in some ways, right
like you kind of me? Maybe not, maybe not, it's
not the same. So do you know what other people's
purposes are or their purpose different from each other? We
say people come in groups to raise the energy level
or have certain purposes, But do you know when you
(58:10):
meet people? Do you when you do your out of
body experiences and you go back, do you get an
idea of what like, do you know what my purpose is?
Or do you know what other people that you meet purposes?
Or do we all kind of have the same purpose?
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Go ahead, Yeah, well it's all it's all the same purpose.
But it's it's it's it could be disguised and many
different things. So it goes back into what like you're
trying to trying to find the truth of all things,
like what is that truth? And I always say love
its truth and truth is love. So so everybody's purpose
(58:45):
and things, even what I was showing was to do
things in love pretty much, but not the love that
people have been programmed to believe it is where they
do nothing but to do all things in love. And
so you can have let's just go to the base
sick things of someone doesn't feel like they have a
purpose in life, but then they find that purpose through
(59:07):
loving their loving their kids or making a family, You'll
find the core of it.
Speaker 7 (59:11):
The purpose of their life.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Then becomes the act of love, you know, sharing information,
the way that I'm doing it, the mission that I've
that I've that I'm trying to do is all acts
of love in that sense to awaken people.
Speaker 7 (59:23):
Because uh, love is also.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Courage and the act to do something in the in
the name of spreading of truth, awakening people. So even
your platform right now, what you're doing is an act
of love trying to expose information to people. But then
some people may think that that's not love. But you're
doing all things in love in that way because it's
it's a desire, a courage to bring information forth to people.
Speaker 7 (59:50):
So the core.
Speaker 6 (59:53):
Is so the people who don't see kindly on some
of the information that I share, don't react that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Agreed to it.
Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
I have people that don't like me that I don't
know exactly who they are, but it's clear.
Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
Well, it's because, like I said before, truth is not
always comforting. It's not.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Truth is not always comforting, and to like it nail
to nail it in the head. When people have near
death experiences and they die and they go over to
the other side and they get a life review, they
are showing what they've done outside of love and what
they've done in love. And when they're shown the things
that they've done outside of love, it's very uncomfortable, painful
(01:00:43):
to see that and feel that. So truth is not
always comforting, but people are always seeking forms of comfort,
and that's not always how truth brings itself to people.
Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
And so the new age wave that you really dislike
is this need for constant comfort, even though it's not truth,
it's not authentic.
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We were born here, so the resources of this place
is for those that are are born here, which inherit
the land, you could say. And so the simple fact
that you're born here and you have to earn and
pay to live. I mean, we're the only beings or
creatures here that have to do that. So this is
what I said before. They've made an artificial system that
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was already set up before you were born here to
have these systems of control in place to make people
think that it's normalcy, but it's actually a very sick acidey.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
Welcome to business game Changers.
Speaker 6 (01:36):
I'm Sarah Westall, I have various right coming back to
the program, He's really unique in how he perceives the
world and he he has these out of body near
death experiences that he has and he explains it and
how he.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
I've put this in context.
Speaker 6 (02:00):
I've been talking to people who.
Speaker 5 (02:03):
Have had near death experiences and what I found.
Speaker 6 (02:07):
I did some research on it, and there was a
study where a thousand people with a thousand people that
had near death experiences, and every single one of them
came back feeling that they of complete love, they felt
at peace, and every single one of them came back
(02:29):
spiritual of some way, not necessarily religious, but spiritual. Even
if they were an atheist before that, they became spiritual.
Speaker 5 (02:37):
And they all talked about.
Speaker 6 (02:39):
How amazing it was one hundred percent, And I think
it's really inspirational. I think it shows that there's so
much more to us than what we're experiencing in our flesh.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Right.
Speaker 6 (02:50):
And if you're Christian or if you're a religious person,
you're taught that right, you know, but you're not necessarily
taught it in this kind of inspirational way of people
who have had these experiences and what they say about
our life here and there, and.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Darius been able to do this.
Speaker 6 (03:11):
He claims multiple times experience what it's like on the
other side and then share it with people, and that
he's made it his life mission.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
To explain to people what those.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
Experiences are about and what life itself is about.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
And he's on a.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Mission to help people understand that.
Speaker 5 (03:32):
There's so much more to who we are. And he
says it all.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
Comes down to love and being your authentic true self
and what does that mean?
Speaker 5 (03:41):
And he explains that freedom is love. You know, the
essence of freedom is love.
Speaker 6 (03:50):
The essence of control is the opposite. Obviously, if you
have a child, you control them in a situation where
they might get hurt, that's love. But then the desired
control someone not from love, but just to control them
at your expense, at your desire for your benefit, is
(04:11):
the opposite of that. And he explains how he got
to this point, all the way back to the time
he was seven, and then when he was thirteen, and
then when he was sixteen, and then he came to this,
whatever your beliefs are, I think this is an inspiring
conversation and it's worth having, it's worth exploring, and he's
I think he hits a nerve with people, Like I've
(04:33):
told him in the shoulders, a lot of people that
follow his work, they like to know more about him and.
Speaker 5 (04:38):
What he's about.
Speaker 6 (04:39):
I don't know if everything he says is true. I mean,
how could I know? And how does I ask him
during the interview where does astrology fit in? And where
does the religion fit in?
Speaker 5 (04:49):
And where?
Speaker 6 (04:50):
And so we have these conversations with all those different topics.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
I hope you enjoy this conversation.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
I'm going to have him back every really like him,
and I'm going to be exploring different concepts like this,
because why not?
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Why are we limited?
Speaker 6 (05:04):
Why do people limit you in what you're able to explore?
You know, last time I had him on, I had
so many negative comments. I mean they just were mean
and nasty, and so I don't think I think those
were bots, because it makes no sense, as somebody who
follows him that you would have this nasty idea. You know,
(05:28):
you would want to be nasty and say these mean things.
People who follow his work don't want to behave that way.
So I think there is a bot army that was
following him around because it was the only show I
had in months that had negative comments like that, and
many of them. So I think it's so be careful
if you see a whole bunch of negative comments underneath.
(05:51):
I turned off the comments when I reposted this show
on YouTube because I was so amazed at what.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Was going on.
Speaker 6 (05:57):
So if you see this time, I'm going to turn
him on again. If you see it just a school
of negative comments, know that it's disconnected to what were
If we're really talking about love and how you project
love and what love is about, and this is all
about all the then this is a total disconnect. The
negative comments then that you know there's some kind of
(06:18):
bot attack or something going on. It doesn't make sense, right,
And I always think that if somebody is trying to
tell you they love and care about you, but you
need to be inferior and you're equal in the eyes
of God, but you need to be in this oppressive role,
that's that's.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
There's something odd about that. You have to question that, right,
that's not.
Speaker 6 (06:42):
This is no, this is wrong. That's the teaching is wrong.
It is so it's like teaching that. It's like saying
that slavery is right. They used to teach that slavery
was okay, because the Bible said it was okay, and
that you are still equal in the eyes of God.
You're still a member of this family, but you were
(07:02):
ordained a slave for the rest of your life. No,
that's not how this works, right. The whole point is
that we need to live in a way that enables
us to flourish and for the people around us to flourish.
And that's what love is. You want others to flourish.
You're not afraid of somebody being better than you. If
(07:23):
you're afraid of your children being better than you, then
you're not living in a loving way. If you're so
afraid of somebody being better than you that you will
destroy them. I think there's healthy competition, right. I don't
want to compete about to getting somebody, but if somebody
truly beats me, like, well, that's great, you did great.
(07:44):
But if your goal is to just destroy people so
that you can dominate or you can just control the situation,
then your path is misguided.
Speaker 5 (07:55):
So I love this conversation. Hopefully you do too. At
least get your thinking. Even if you don't agree with
any of it, then at least it gets you thinking.
And if it's.
Speaker 6 (08:04):
Something that that inspires you and you want to learn more,
as he says, go find more of his interviews.
Speaker 5 (08:08):
That's what he likes to do. And so before we
get into that, since we.
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this very interesting conversation I have with Darius right now.
It's long, so I'm gonna put part of it on
(10:04):
my substack and you can go to my substack at
Sarah Westall dot substack dot com and you can sign
up for that there and I will have the rest
of the interview here, So I'll be part one here
and part two on my substack. Okay, let's get into
this amazing conversation I have with Darius.
Speaker 5 (10:23):
Right, Hi, Darius, welcome back to the program.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yes, thanks for having me back. I appreciate it.
Speaker 6 (10:32):
Well, the first one was pretty incredible and it did
really well. I had all these people contacting me, Oh my.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
Gosh, sir, can you tell them this? Can you reach
out to them?
Speaker 6 (10:42):
And you have a lot of people that follow you
and your work, and I was pretty oppressed with how
you know, how many people actually like follow you around
and want to learn.
Speaker 5 (10:55):
From you, which is great. When anybody has a.
Speaker 6 (10:57):
Loyal following, you start going okay, well.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It's pretty cool and they've been following you for years.
So getting in there into that, when did you get.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Started in this near death experience that you're teaching?
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You're actually teaching people how to do this. What is
your background and how did you get into this?
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Yeah? So the background with.
Speaker 4 (11:23):
That's very important to understand is if even from a child,
I was doing doing these things, seeing things and doing
a lot more things in the background than people realize.
So it'll makes sense when I explain this into then currently,
(11:45):
because if I don't explain that past, then it's sort
of like just fast forward it doesn't make sense. But
from a young child, like seven years old, I was
being showing certain things through keeping abilities active. So whether
if that is giving an example like intuitive abilities reading energy, seeing,
(12:09):
trying to see beyond the physical light spectrum physically, so
people classify that a scene ors or whatever, or or
judging the environment based off what the energy is there.
So a lot of people will be present in the environment,
but you know what they say physically the surface level
isn't actually how they feel. So it's tuning into those things.
(12:31):
As a young child, I remember even getting you know,
with my uncle for instance, like he would set up
a piece of paper on the table and he would
just have it free standing, like you know, with a
paper clip or whatever, and we would just practice, like
(12:52):
you know, in front of it, what are hands, there
are electromagnetic field to try to make it move at
some form or fashion and then pushing it back, pushing
it back. So that was the type of stuff that
I was doing from a child. So then when you
go into thirteen fourteen years old, I was already studying
the whole Federal reserve, banking system, the debt slavery system,
(13:17):
how the straw man from like thirteen fourteen, and so
I understood how how the Federal Reserve and the monetary
system was working in the military industrial complex and how
that was all influencing and controlling the masses.
Speaker 5 (13:33):
Here thirteen or fourteen.
Speaker 6 (13:35):
Was your parents involved in or was it just you
just kind of on your own.
Speaker 4 (13:40):
Knowing it's knowing and then also also not being.
Speaker 7 (13:50):
Shut down.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I won't necessarily go into the personal with that,
because some you could say, on the other side of
the family didn't necessarily believe certain things that I was saying.
But from thirteen to fourteen, I was studying all these things,
and so I realized that.
Speaker 7 (14:14):
That the that the issue.
Speaker 4 (14:15):
The issue was, Okay, well, they with the federalies or
banking system, and the federalies are system and all these
things they were trying to access. And you could say
they have access to version a distorted version of what
they call the zero point, which is infinite supply of
energy through through the through the fake currency and commerce.
(14:36):
You see, and so then they use the people in
that form their energy through the through the fake dollar,
to perpetuate constantly a zero point energy supply for them
to do as they will. And so from that age fifteen,
I was actually pointing this out to my mother. I
was like, Okay, so you see this, you see this,
this is how reality is, and et cetera.
Speaker 6 (14:58):
Were they normal human beings just human beings like us
that are doing this or some are they?
Speaker 5 (15:03):
Well maybe I Q can answer that later, keep going, yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:06):
Yeah, I'll get to that later in it. But so
then we fast forward to sixteen years old, and this
is when at that point in my life, knowing what
I know and was researching and finding out and just
memories too.
Speaker 7 (15:25):
I made.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
I made, you could say, a grand statement. So picture
me at sixteen at someone at fifty years old, you know,
just having enough when they have all this knowledge and
you you have this, have these individuals that have been
in the freedom fighting movement for years and I've gotten
to the state. But you know, at sixteen, I was
(15:48):
there and I said, you know, I want to know
what the purpose of this is. So I'm here, what
is the purpose of all of this? Like so I'm
learning this information. If I don't understand the purpose for
me for being here, then I'm going to leave. And
it was an ultimatum. It's showed me or else. I
(16:08):
will figure it out anyways, because if you don't show me,
I will take myself out and go back to the
other side and figure out all the information that I'm seeking.
And it wasn't a when I made that statement. It
wasn't a statement of maybe sort of kind of. It
was a ultimatum, tell me or else, and there is
no changing my mind at that point. And in that
(16:32):
time I had my first near death experience, or what
I say now is out of body state too, because
I was taken outside of what we call the universe
and what people call the universe, which is the construct
and I was able to see how everything worked and operated,
and I was being shown these things again. I was
(16:54):
being shown how time works, how the infinite creation of
constructs and reality, these and universes are manifested in the
purpose of each individual soul. And I was even showing
future events what people would call prophetic visions or prophecies
that would come true, and funnily enough, at sixteen to
where I am now you know, years and years later,
(17:18):
I'm actually in this environment that I'm in. The place
that I'm at right now is the same exact place
at that which I'll shown when I was sixteen years
old in that vision with certain people in my life
that I had no concept of at the time. I
remember even she was showing me the dog that I
have now, Leley. It's a Border Collie, and I was like, well,
why is there an animal here? She was showing me
(17:40):
all of these things like it was like movie trailers,
like getting visions and flashes of what is to come,
and here I am now all these years later, and
everything that was shown to me has come true.
Speaker 5 (17:53):
See the future now?
Speaker 4 (17:57):
Yet you can see the future event? Yes you can,
and it's happened to me many times to the out
of body state doing this, But it's not time. Future
events are you have two versions of them. You have
fixed events and then you have potentialities. So let's just say,
(18:17):
for instance, a fixed event is every single soul here
is going to wake up to the other side and
see all things again, whether if that's through dying or
through out of body state or what have you. They
will eventually access all knowledge and their divinity again, and
so potentialities of time is the basically what decisions do
(18:41):
you make that basically lead you to that final destination
anyways you see, so whether that's going in this path
that path, but you could see these things. I remember
many times. I'll give you one example, but going through
my process shutting down my body and then I'm on
the couch because I like to be isolated when I
do this, and then I see someone someone close to me.
(19:04):
Basically as I'm coming out, I see them walk past
as if they're physically walking past, and I'm observing this,
and then I come back into my body, and then
I come back into my body. And then when I
wake up from that, I actually see I wake up
and I come right back up. I sit up, and
then here she is walking exactly how I see in it.
(19:27):
So time is not a linear thing. You can access past, present,
and potential potential time. It's very much more not solidified
as what we think it is. Because right now you
could think of going into the past, and therefore you're
already in the past because it's time is still accessible
(19:48):
to you in that way. But when you are accessing
more of your energy field more of the light spectrum,
which we can only access one percent, When you access
to the one hundred percent of it, and you'll see
that all of the things that seem like they are
airy fairy or mysticism or woo woo is actually quite real.
Speaker 7 (20:11):
You know, we're trying to.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
Science behind us.
Speaker 6 (20:14):
There's a science behind that, right, I mean it's not yes,
and we might not understand it.
Speaker 5 (20:19):
I have a few people who are pretty.
Speaker 6 (20:22):
Advanced that I talked to and like you in their
endeavors of trying to figure out what reality is.
Speaker 5 (20:28):
And one of them.
Speaker 6 (20:30):
Very highly respected scientists, which is pretty interesting. But he's
very much into understanding what the world is really about.
He's very different than most people. And he told me
I just kept nailing him on some things. I won't
I don't want to give away who this person is
because I don't think he'd want to people to know
where he's at this way, but at least publicly.
Speaker 5 (20:51):
But he said to me that once people.
Speaker 6 (20:54):
Understand what this world is really about, they truly get
to that point of why we're here. He says, about
half of them decide they don't want to stay here anymore,
and they just go back. Is that true in your experience,
because going on is so much better and I don't
want and see it people taking their life.
Speaker 5 (21:13):
I don't want to talk about it like that.
Speaker 6 (21:15):
You know, people who had near death experiences, Like my
sister was talking about it when she was going through
this Reese. She's a doctor and she was looking at
this and a thousand people study of people that almost died,
you know when they came back, and they all came
back with being spiritual of some sort, and it was
beautiful and peaceful and loving. And so that's what he
(21:39):
was trying to tell me. And not everybody can, like
they're not able to either.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
But can you.
Speaker 6 (21:45):
Answer that in a way that's not I'm not encouraging
that in any way, shape or form, But you know what.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
I'm saying, Yeah, well, well I'm going to say two things.
One is that.
Speaker 4 (21:58):
You'll find the the the reason why there's there's a
there's a lot of people that follow that that what
I'm saying is because the I I've actually shown people
how to what near death experiences. I've shown people how
to access that same state controlled And you know, I
(22:22):
brought this up with you in the other other uh
interview that we did. But a classical one is David
David Ebel. These testimonies, I think eighty two is David Ebel,
and he's had near death experiences, he's died, and he's
had out of body states. He's he's confirming those things.
(22:44):
So it's you know, maybe that's even someone as well
to have on Yeshah. I don't know if you want
to talk to him or not, but he would be
able to even confirm that as well with you. But
the when when you when you access the other side
your true home, yes you want to stay there because
we think that this is this is a life, and
(23:06):
yes it is life, but the true life is is
that which you came from before you were born here
in limitations to the physical body. So when you're there,
you are no longer limited by the physical The physical body,
which you could say in quotations like the physical bodies
of prison for the soul in a sense, because it
gives the illusion of limits when the soul is a
(23:29):
unlimited being and it is the infinite. So because the
soul is the infinite, it can never be bound or
limited unless you believe it to be so.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
And so when you're.
Speaker 4 (23:39):
There, you you taste that you taste the infinite, the infinite,
the joy of I am, which is eternal you, which
you could be and do whatever it is that you
desire and wish to do based off what you will
will will to do.
Speaker 5 (23:53):
What is the point of being here? Then? And I
know that's what.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
You struggled with when you were you know, absolutely, Yeah,
why the hell am I here? Then?
Speaker 7 (24:04):
Yeah? Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (24:05):
I mean, can you articulate that or is it hard
to even articulate it for a person who doesn't quite
get it.
Speaker 7 (24:16):
I don't think.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Probably it's going to be difficult to understand, but I'll
try to articulate it in the way that it was
shown to me how I experienced it. So, going back
to sixteen, when I was showing that this is what
I returned to, there was this when you look back
at your life here, it's almost like only seconds has passed.
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And I knew in that very moment that this is
so temporary and I and I exist for eternity in forever,
and this is what I'm always returning back to no
matter what. That to come back here and show love
is the point. And you'll find this a lot in
near death. What you brought up to near death experiences.
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Why do certain individuals they like it there and they
want to stay there, but why do they choose make
the decision to come back? And you'll find all the
time it has to do something related to love. I
want to love more, I don't want to leave my family,
et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 7 (25:18):
Et cetera.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
So this is almost a gift.
Speaker 6 (25:20):
It's a gift to be here because you're given the
ability to evolve your frequency or learn something that you
couldn't learn any other in at home.
Speaker 7 (25:33):
Well, yes, yes, in.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
Otherwise why would you do it? Right?
Speaker 6 (25:38):
I mean, because if you've got nothing out of it,
why bother?
Speaker 4 (25:43):
Yeah, Well, this gives you the the experience of what
you are not through the physical body, the limitations. So
to experience that which you are not gives you a
certain perceptional wisdom that would have never and birth unless
it was experienced. So you could say, to to understand
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the truth fullness of unconditional love. When you experience the
unlovable events, you step into the highest form of unconditional
love through seeing what love is not. Because if you've
never seen what love is not, and you have nothing
to compare it to then you're an all infinite being,
knowing being. Not If you're an all knowing being but
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you have no experience of what it's like to experience
not being an all knowing being, then you're an all
knowing being not right, So you need.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
To experience But you also do you need to experience suffering?
Do you need to experience ignorance? You need to experience
all these things you're supposed to You're supposed to experience
that which you have not experienced before.
Speaker 5 (26:54):
Novelty if you will well.
Speaker 4 (26:58):
This based off what I was shown, This place that
we're in, this universe creation that we're in, is the
only one that gives you that form of illusion of separation,
because when you're home, back home on the other side,
you are able to manifest places, you could say heavens
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within heavens that that when you step into these many
different creations, you don't forget who you are and you
never lose that that that separation. For instance, like you
know that you were you are who you are from
the beginning, that you're connected to the all of all things,
and you know all things, and you're stepping into certain
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things to experience the infinite. But here gives you the
illusion of not being the infinite in finite you see.
Speaker 6 (27:54):
So are there other classes like this that we participate
in or is this.
Speaker 4 (28:02):
This is the like I said, based off what I
was showing, based off what I what I could say, yes,
I know that to be one hundred percent true based
is yes, this one, this what we're in is the
is the one that gives you that separation of the
illusion of separation to the degree that it is here.
And within that separation you have experiences that are unforeseen events.
Speaker 7 (28:27):
Two.
Speaker 4 (28:27):
So I mean we're going into the I mean to
to understand this fully what I'm saying, it's it's really
taking everything that you think how people think logically, like
pulling that all out and going trying to go back
to the source of all things, like the the highest
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state for people that are Christian, God and all loving,
all knowing being, you know, He loves all things and
he gives you the space to be and do whatever
it is so that your soul could could grow essentially.
And so this is like very very you know, a paradox.
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You could say it's a paradox because then when you
come in here, it's like okay, well, I'm suffering. Did
I agree to suffer? And then well, there's no such
thing as a good or bad thing. It's just an experience.
But there is good and bad, and this is where
you go into the paradox, and this where you go
into what we're talking about is the highest level of truth.
But then as you get that separation, then you have
these mind made the mind mental constructs to try to define, Well,
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there's a beginning to my body, so therefore there must
be a beginning to my soul. But there was a
never a beginning to your soul. So you need to
step outside of the thinking of the mind and go
back into just knowing of the soul.
Speaker 7 (29:55):
It's quite yeah, that's all I'll say there, I guess.
Speaker 6 (30:01):
So let's get back to I have a bunch of
other things I want to talk about, but let's get
back to your need to understand the banking and who's
behind it and why it's being done. I would imagine
many of the people in the system don't even know.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
What they're part of.
Speaker 6 (30:16):
They're just like not just people who are having experience.
But is there more of a mastermind? And who are
they just humans or what are they? If they're actually
using that system as a source of energy.
Speaker 7 (30:32):
So so the the what what.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
I found through all of my experiences, accumulating everything that
that i've that I know today is that the people
that are in control are pretty much just like us
people that have fallen out of love. So just understanding
that that foundation first, Now these same individuals that have
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fallen so far out of love, they they've they've they
basically mhm Okay, first you have the First, you have
the soul. So the soul, let's just say, it cannot
be limited. It's the infinite. Then you have the creation
of the physical body, which gives you the illusion of limits.
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And then you have the spirit, which is memories. And
also thought forms can make a negative spirit or what
they call demon within you or or or thought forms
are are are are spirits are also forms of thought forms.
So I know this is this is going to sound
like I'm going in this direction. How is it's going
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to make sense? But let me just explain it all
and then bring it back full circle. Now, when you
when you have, for instance, scientifically proven that we have
an electromagnetic field, and they I believe and you can.
Speaker 7 (31:59):
Probably pull this up.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
People can pull this up, but they could actually see
your instruments to measure thoughts, so they could actually see
it or whatever. So when you think of something and
it's still you're projecting that into the space just outside
of your visual light spectrum to perceive it are decoded,
but it still is real.
Speaker 7 (32:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (32:20):
Now, these people that have fallen so far out of love,
they become very demon like and you could say, manifest
it through their thought forms, many bad spirits, which the
spirits don't have control over the soul. But it's it's
basically your your belief in the very thing itself gives
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it the very power and control, not the control of you,
it's your belief in it. So these people that are
controlling the governmental systems, they've put a lot of thought
forms into things, making you believe in the in the
very systems themselves to govern you. But when you don't
put your belief in the government anymore, you walk away
from it into love and truth, then all of a sudden,
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government falls down and it disappears, you know, because all
of their systems are based off your will, your belief
in it.
Speaker 7 (33:10):
Just like the currency.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
So in this why I said before, they're trying to
tap into an artificial form of the zero point through currency,
because it's your belief in the currency that gives it value,
not because it has any value to begin with. And
so this is what they've done from the physical sense,
to enslave the physical body. You see, they've made people
believe through negative spirits, their thought forms, projecting that into
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this artificial system to extract energy from people through their
own belief and their belief in the very governance in
the system, et cetera, just to tap into the artificial
zero point, trying to harvest you could say, your soul's energy.
But they can never touch your soul's energy. That's the
illusion part right there, because they're trying to they're trying
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to grab forms of your memory, your spirit, your will,
which if you give that to them, then yes, it
becomes an artificial illusion of this perpetual enslavement. Does that
make sense because that's from this that's from the understanding
of the soul to the physical of why it's actually
being done.
Speaker 6 (34:13):
Do they conscious that No, I can understand the concept
behind that. But are they consciously building that system or
they built it being unconscious through their greed and.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
Separation from love.
Speaker 4 (34:31):
Well, yes, I mean, even your separation from love, they're
still conscious.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
But I mean, but is the system built on them?
Speaker 6 (34:38):
Are they consciously building something that enslaves people or do
their is they're just not understanding that they're creating this
system because they are greedy, or.
Speaker 5 (34:53):
They want power, or they have other motives and they
don't understand what it is that they're part of.
Speaker 4 (34:59):
You know what I'm saying, Yes, yes, and it's both.
It actually is both. And the reason being is both
is because you have people that are in the know
that are addicted to control, and then you also have
people that are that are ignorant to all of these things.
But because of the very belief in it, they become
the participators in it without them even knowing that they're
participating in that very act. So it is it is
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it is both because.
Speaker 6 (35:24):
I argue with the high level banker person who used
to work with the City of Wall Street, and it
was an interesting conversation, and this person was trying to
tell me that the people part of the system don't
realize they're part of it.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
The system is to blame.
Speaker 6 (35:38):
They said, no, there clearly are people that understand systems
that are nourishing it, building it, and keeping it going.
Because yes, I know, I've built systems before, and I mean,
I don't know about this type of a money system
that extracts energy. I don't know if they are consciously
aware of that versus they know what system that they're
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putting in place, they know how it controls people. I
just know there are people that are system level thinking
that do those things. And she argued with me, and
I guess I just didn't believe her, And that's why
I'm asking you. But you're even saying beyond the system,
you're even saying that they know that it extracts energy.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
Yes, yes, that that's that's that's what I'm saying as well. Yeah,
I mean the very fact too is that you well.
Speaker 7 (36:28):
We were born here.
Speaker 4 (36:29):
So the resources of this place is for those that
and that are are born here, which inherit the land,
you could say. And so the simple fact that you're
born here and you have to earn and pay to live,
I mean, we're the only beings or creatures here that
have to do that. So this is why I said before,
they've made an artificial system that was already set up
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before you were born here to to have these systems
of control in place to make people think that it's normalcy,
but it's actually a very sick society.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
So you know, the simple.
Speaker 4 (37:05):
Fact that we have to pay to live that which
we were born until we have the right to this
place is that form of artificial means of extracting energy
through the artificial zero point, through currency, commerce, currency, language
like that. And that's why language is so important because
they use language also as spell casting too, and this
way you go into black magic and rituals, and you know,
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this is why even.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Part of.
Speaker 4 (37:30):
High level of occultist things and also what do you
call that, it's covenants, freemasonry and stuff. They understand the
power of spoken word and in the in the intention
behind that word.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
As well and what you believe in.
Speaker 4 (37:48):
And to give you a great example of this is
you there's been studies done on this too as well
to validate that which I'm saying. So it's not just
you know, mystical to people, but what you actually believe
and what you speak actually dictates the very waters and
sells within your physical body. You could even program and
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restructure water based off your very will in your belief
in when you speak to it. This is why the
placebo effect is even a placebo effect.
Speaker 6 (38:19):
Institute showed that that was one of the groundbreaking work.
Speaker 4 (38:22):
Yeah yeah, so they they understand the the black magic
type of things. And this is why you even go
into the music industry too. This is why they use
a lot of spell casting through music. So it's very important.
But it's it's not just the it's not just the
words that are being used, but it's also the intention
behind the individual in that if they believe it, that
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gives it even more power because you know, I could say,
for instance, I'll give you an example, and this is
not true, but I could say I hate you. Now
that's a word, but that's actually not how I feel
about you. But if I use that word with the
intention of how I feel, then therefore it becomes a
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you could say, a more potent in its effect towards you.
Speaker 6 (39:09):
It's the intent that really matters, you know. The whole
karma thing, the idea that people can do whatever they
want as long as they tell people then they don't
have karma. I'm sure you've heard that they're afraid of karma.
So the occult pride, there's a religion where they can
do whatever they want as long as they tell people,
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then they're not affected by karma.
Speaker 5 (39:35):
And that gets back into I call bunk on all
of that because it's the intent.
Speaker 6 (39:40):
You can't have the intent of wanting to hurt somebody
and just tell them that you're going to hurt them
in a cryptic way. That's manipulative and assume that you're
not going to deal with ramifications of whatever it is
that you've done.
Speaker 5 (39:54):
Because the intent has.
Speaker 6 (39:56):
Always been to deceive and to harm.
Speaker 5 (40:00):
That's the karma.
Speaker 4 (40:02):
Yeah, yeah, and I use I use this as well.
You cannot have unconditional love with the judgment and then
some people mistake what I say there with okay, well
then you can't point out what what is harmful? That's
not necessarily true because there's a difference between judgment and discernment.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
So so, yes, the all of these individuals are in
the no and it's the intention of that which they
do not necessarily from the high state of thing. They're
going to be judged for it in that way. But
there are consequences to actions there, right because well just consequences.
There's a cause and effects. So right now, if I
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push this, that's going to move. That's cause and effect.
So it's not you see, it's not necessarily like it.
Speaker 6 (40:49):
Is that in your your world and your experience. Do
we experience karma in another life? Or is that not
really inaccurate?
Speaker 4 (40:59):
No, no, it's not accurate. It's not accurate. And in this way,
karma implies that you are you are, You've done something,
so therefore now you're going to be bound to that
very act, and that's judgment, you see, So so you
cannot have unconditional love with a judgment, and judgment would
say this, It would basically say you've done an action,
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now you are equal to that very action, and you're
unworthy of anything else.
Speaker 6 (41:23):
Well, you have to if there isn't karma, I'm going
to get creamed for cutting you off.
Speaker 5 (41:28):
But I need to clarify.
Speaker 6 (41:30):
If there isn't karma, then why does it matter what
we do?
Speaker 4 (41:36):
Well, this is where I was. I was leading into that.
So what what happens is what happens is this when
so you have you have love and then you have evil.
Now where does love stem from?
Speaker 5 (41:54):
What?
Speaker 7 (41:54):
What is the core love?
Speaker 5 (41:55):
What?
Speaker 7 (41:55):
Where's the frequency of that?
Speaker 4 (41:57):
And you'll find it always goes back to freedom and
you have all all of these different avenues expressions of freedom.
Love is a symptom of freedom. Joy is a symptom
of freedom. Fearlessness is a symptom. I think I said
that right is a symptom of freedom. Courage is a
symptom of freedom.
Speaker 7 (42:17):
You see.
Speaker 4 (42:17):
So, and that's all like unconditional love stuff. And then
you have evil, which is the root of all evil
is also the the the energy behind that is loss.
So you know, fear comes from loss. You know, the
root of fear is loss, and then you have fear, loss, regrets, suffering, pain,
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et cetera.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
But anger isn't just anger is not a symptom necessarily evil.
It could be a I mean, that's not but anyways,
keep going.
Speaker 4 (42:50):
Yeah, yeah, so it's I'll bring this all for full
circle again. But anger anger in the form of the
way that it's expressed in its intention. So anger in
the form of harming something, absolutely that's the form of evil,
and anger in the form of of like you're doing
something out of love. But that wouldn't be anger in
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the way that you perceive it because a lot of
people have anger now thinking that that's anger of evil,
but it's actually courage that's actually what they're feeling. It's
not really anger, it's courage. And they're mistaking they're mistaking
loving acts of anger with actually loving acts of courage
to change something.
Speaker 7 (43:28):
And so this is why the New Age propaganda has really.
Speaker 4 (43:31):
Crippled people, because they put people in a state of
love where love is just do nothing and accept all things.
And you could say, yes, accept all things, but it's
also in a place of doing things, in the place.
Speaker 7 (43:42):
What love would do and protection, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 6 (43:46):
Yeah, that's why I said that, That's why I wanted
to bring that up.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
Anger isn't what people think it is. But keep going.
Speaker 4 (43:51):
Yeah, so when you understand those things that I said,
then you understand the very people that do things out
of out of fear, control, et cetera. Then they they
will experience on the other side, loss of judgment of themselves,
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et cetera. And so there is there is a consequence
too that and that consequence is them looking at themselves
and the greatest, the unforgivable sin is the sin that
you cannot forgive yourself for, and the regrettable is the
unforgettable on the other side, So you don't forget things
that you've done. So there's no form of judgment from
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an external source that will ever give them any more
hellish experience from the very judgment that they place on
themselves and the things they can't forgive themselves for. And
this is what is reflected to them when they leave,
when they leave this place. You know, it was reflected
to me in my past getting my life review. Like
It's the reason why I'm doing this and sharing all
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this information is because you will never escape yourself. You're
the only one that you can ever escape, and you're
always going to face yourself and the things that you've done.
But all things are forgiven too, even the most evil things,
and all that has ever been done is all forgiven
and all loved, all the same. But they are the
judges of themselves based off what they've done. Yes, and
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all acts done outside of love, you will experience lost
pain and regret everything. So yeah, when you see the
bad that's going on, you do things in the act
of love and protection, not in a place of sitting
back and just allowing. Because I'm pointing things out. This
is federalies are bankingess enslaving humanity. People will just say oh,
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wh do nothing? Well, no, just don't give your will
and belief in certain things and start doing things in
an act of love to progress humanity forward, do things
all in joy, keep on focusing on the highest state
of joy and fulfillment, on what you want to put
belief into, because then that will manifest that reality and paradigm.
It's the same reason why they've taken over mainstream media,
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because they want to dictate people's belief in certain things
to manifest a certain paradigm of fear, control, suffering, et cetera.
But if that whole paradigm was flipped into love and
joy and et cetera, then you'll find this place would
change overnight.
Speaker 6 (46:19):
Yeah, the media really does the narrative the narrative, and
what you project is really what we are.
Speaker 5 (46:25):
It's it creates our reality. Okay, I asked you a question.
Speaker 6 (46:30):
Can do you know who I am and what my
soul is on? Do we know each other on the
other side?
Speaker 5 (46:35):
And I'll check in what is the answer to that?
Speaker 7 (46:40):
Well?
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Yes, yes, So the one people will ask me certain
questions like that, and do I do I do I
remember you? Yes, I remember your signature, and I remember
a lot of other people's signature too, because the thing
is every single soul is always known to all souls,
so we we we all know each other on the
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other side. And and there's in in one when when
you do certain things in the state where you're conscious,
you're conscious enough you could recognize souls because we all
know each other. Everybody knows each other. So I recognize
the same divinity in you as I recognized the divinity
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in myself. So there's a remembrance there because I see
the acts that you do in love as well. So
it's an instant remembrance in that way.
Speaker 5 (47:31):
We h do we have soul groups?
Speaker 4 (47:35):
Some come in here with certain groups. Yeah, yes, so.
Speaker 5 (47:39):
And does it repeat?
Speaker 6 (47:40):
Does it repeat like we repeat with the same groups
of souls.
Speaker 5 (47:48):
Or don't you know? I mean you don't mean you no, no.
Speaker 4 (47:51):
Sometimes because because I've I have experience with this of
for instance, my I'll just say, for the sake of
the conversation, lineage, I do have instant I remember that lineage.
You could say from certain parts of my family that
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I've known them forever and that we've done this forever,
and that.
Speaker 7 (48:17):
That's sort of what you could say.
Speaker 4 (48:21):
You're alluding to as well, or I was looting to
do you remember, yeah, because some people come in as
a as a as a clan as such, or a
group to do certain things. And this is where you
get certain waves of waves of people because everything is.
People don't necessarily come in here just willy dally, Okay,
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I'm coming into this. There is you, there is agreements made,
we know each other, and there are some collection of
souls that come in here as a group to sort
of anchor a certain field of energy, the certain felt
the energy. And this is why you'll find that one
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certain individuals die within that certain clan that they've come
in through. You'll find that sometimes you'll get this domino
effect of then everybody else leaving this place at the
same time very similarly, you see.
Speaker 6 (49:18):
Because they've accomplished their mission of some sort.
Speaker 7 (49:23):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (49:24):
Interesting, So do you remember or think you remember the
future of what some of.
Speaker 5 (49:31):
These events that are unfolding, because it seems like there
are there's.
Speaker 6 (49:35):
Tremendous change going on right now, a lot of I
think there's a lot of pain in people too, which
actually pain can be good if it trendscends into people
evolving and doing something good. It seems like we are
at a precipice of major, major change.
Speaker 5 (49:55):
Yes, it's profound, and some of.
Speaker 6 (49:58):
It could just be because we can communicate in such
it much better ways, which is actually instigating a lot
of the change as well.
Speaker 3 (50:06):
But what.
Speaker 5 (50:09):
Have you seen the future? Are we going to evolve
or what do you see? Or haven't you seen the future? No?
Speaker 4 (50:17):
I have seen, like I said, from sixteen, and it's
also been shown to me many times from to this
point as well. But you know, from that age I
was showing the freedom of all of humanity. Again, everything
in this place becomes free and there's a big celebration.
So right now, the only way that I could put
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a picture in your mind is think of the end
of all suffering, all of everything and true freedom for
every single person here. That's what's coming and what has happened.
And the reason why now there's this big friction is
because there has been people awake for a very very
long time, for years and years and years pointing certain
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things out and then people have pushed them underneath the
rug or what have you, whistleblowers, et cetera, et cetera.
But you see, when people are comfortable, sometimes they choose
to do nothing, and the comfortability is like a very
soothing thing where they're just like, well, I'm not going
to do anything because it's not it's not bothering me,
bothering me right now. But a lot of these individuals
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that have become so comfortable, they say that they want
truth or something or answers to something, but they're actually
just seeking comfort instead. Not because truth isn't always comforting.
Sometimes it could rub you the wrong way. And then
because it forces change sometimes too, you know, and because
people have placed so much value in money or systems
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of control, et cetera, et cetera, when that starts knocking
on the door of like okay, these things are starting
to get difficult and they're falling down, then that forces
them to see that which it always was was forms
of enslavement to track the energy in order to trying
to extract the energy from you. So that's what people
are seeing because all all these systems based off of
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controlling someone controlling something are not acts of love, and
those things fall at some point. And that's what I'll
strongly fall at some point because the only thing that
a rot that comes from this is all systems based
on love. There's technology out there through the patent system,
patent system that actually could solve a lot of the
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the energy needs of the of humanity. But you see,
if you have a person person A, person B, person
A has good intentions to bring that energy device forward
in love, that changes humanity versus person B has controlling desires.
Speaker 7 (52:52):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 4 (52:53):
Then all that does is it still suppresses humanity and
controls them even though it's free energy. You see, so
all of these controlling things. The thing is, we have
everything right now in place with the technology that we
have everything. We have everything to make a paradise here.
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You can say a garden of Eden here.
Speaker 7 (53:16):
We have it now.
Speaker 4 (53:17):
But the only thing that's preventing that is a certain
consciousness in individuals that are wanting to bring that forward
and controller either love. And that's the only thing that's
the that's breaking down at the moment. All these fear
control based systems are just falling to replace it with
what the other side is, you could say, the laws
of the other side, which is love.
Speaker 6 (53:38):
Yes, there's an argument that if we had all free energy,
you know, we didn't have this money system, we didn't
have to work to make money or we didn't. That's
society itself one function, because the need to work is
what gives us. The people working in the ambulance is
the people building things. If you didn't have any, then
(54:00):
you would have apathy. That is the counter argument to that.
Speaker 4 (54:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I get that. I mean
there there's always going to be some form of of
value value exchange. Understand where that's coming from as well.
But the thing is the the the value exchange isn't
necessarily going to be the way that we have it
currently because the value exchange that we have now is
already so controlled. Like this's just every every form of
(54:32):
it is is controlled. But let's just go back to
let's just say the the do no harm for instance.
So if that if that was the if that was
the under based rule of all things do no harm,
(54:54):
then you'll find that a lot of people would start
doing things in life, you know, actually free more things up.
Speaker 7 (55:01):
Not only that is.
Speaker 4 (55:05):
A lot of the things that you talked about too,
with like the medical system. There's so much things that
we could inherently do now within ourselves that people are
so unaware of. You see, the forms of technology are
expressions of that the eternal tech that we have within ourselves.
Speaker 7 (55:25):
Right now.
Speaker 4 (55:25):
We have immortal genes within us, immortal genes and you
could say through the splice, through the through the DNA modification,
through vaccines, et cetera, tellingmere caps and what have you,
that they've been able to or or change as slightly,
But we still have genes within us that we are
the true eternal tech. Right now, we have a soul
(55:48):
within this physical body that has access to the multi
dimensional reality of all of creation. And yet they have
secret programs such as Project looking Glass, which is technology
to try to see future events. But we have that
technology within us. So even with forms of technology, like
(56:09):
I said, if they're brought forward, they should always at
some point return back to that which it originally was
in the past, where the technology supports the electromagnetic field
or the physical body and vice versa to turn these
things on within us. Because because someone with an illness,
for instance, not a not a doctor this et cetera,
(56:33):
et cetera, but someone with an illness with the placebo
effect has been proven that they could they could fix
that based off the will and their belief.
Speaker 5 (56:40):
So what is your purpose here?
Speaker 7 (56:44):
What I'm doing what you're doing?
Speaker 6 (56:47):
And was that what you were driven to figure out? Like,
what the hell am I doing here?
Speaker 7 (56:54):
Well?
Speaker 4 (56:54):
Yeah, since from sixteen like that was the that's approximate?
Speaker 5 (56:58):
Yeah, not just what am I part of? But why
am I part of this?
Speaker 7 (57:02):
Yeah? What is the whole point?
Speaker 4 (57:05):
Like I said, at that point, I was just like
tell me now or else I will just figure it out,
because again, you have information, But then what's the point
of that information?
Speaker 5 (57:14):
Do you think that a lot of people like what
a lot of help is this?
Speaker 6 (57:21):
So a lot of the people that you work with
have gotten to that point and are like, I just
need to know what the hell this is because this
is really getting quite strange.
Speaker 4 (57:33):
Yes, yes, and no some people some people do come
with that, yes, but then some people just come with
a genuine desire to gather together and share, you know, So,
which is.
Speaker 6 (57:49):
Kind of one of the same in some ways, right
like you kind of me? Maybe not, maybe not, it's
not the same. So do you know what other people's
purposes are or their purpose different from each other? We
say people come in groups to raise the energy level
or have certain purposes, But do you know when you
(58:10):
meet people? Do you when you do your out of
body experiences and you go back, do you get an
idea of what like, do you know what my purpose is?
Or do you know what other people that you meet purposes?
Or do we all kind of have the same purpose?
Speaker 4 (58:24):
Go ahead, Yeah, well it's all it's all the same purpose.
But it's it's it's it could be disguised and many
different things. So it goes back into what like you're
trying to trying to find the truth of all things,
like what is that truth? And I always say love
its truth and truth is love. So so everybody's purpose
(58:45):
and things, even what I was showing was to do
things in love pretty much, but not the love that
people have been programmed to believe it is where they
do nothing but to do all things in love. And
so you can have let's just go to the base
sick things of someone doesn't feel like they have a
purpose in life, but then they find that purpose through
(59:07):
loving their loving their kids or making a family, You'll
find the core of it.
Speaker 7 (59:11):
The purpose of their life.
Speaker 4 (59:12):
Then becomes the act of love, you know, sharing information,
the way that I'm doing it, the mission that I've
that I've that I'm trying to do is all acts
of love in that sense to awaken people.
Speaker 7 (59:23):
Because uh, love is also.
Speaker 4 (59:26):
Courage and the act to do something in the in
the name of spreading of truth, awakening people. So even
your platform right now, what you're doing is an act
of love trying to expose information to people. But then
some people may think that that's not love. But you're
doing all things in love in that way because it's
it's a desire, a courage to bring information forth to people.
Speaker 7 (59:50):
So the core.
Speaker 6 (59:53):
Is so the people who don't see kindly on some
of the information that I share, don't react that.
Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
Agreed to it.
Speaker 6 (01:00:02):
I have people that don't like me that I don't
know exactly who they are, but it's clear.
Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
Well, it's because, like I said before, truth is not
always comforting. It's not.
Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Truth is not always comforting, and to like it nail
to nail it in the head. When people have near
death experiences and they die and they go over to
the other side and they get a life review, they
are showing what they've done outside of love and what
they've done in love. And when they're shown the things
that they've done outside of love, it's very uncomfortable, painful
(01:00:43):
to see that and feel that. So truth is not
always comforting, but people are always seeking forms of comfort,
and that's not always how truth brings itself to people.
Speaker 6 (01:00:52):
And so the new age wave that you really dislike
is this need for constant comfort, even though it's not truth,
it's not authentic.
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