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Don't go anywhere. You're listening to Discovering Truth. Those are
new announcements, all right, friends. So today I am here
to smash another religious spirit. And you know, I'd love
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smashing religious spirits with a mallet. It gives me great satisfaction.
It gives me an unction to wake up in the morning.
You know. One of the things that I love to
say is it's always a good day to give the
devil a bad day. And you know when you're giving
a devil a bad day, when you're slapping that religious
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spirit upside ahead with truth and facts. What I have
seen over the years that I have been in ministry
is that so many people have been tripped up, snared
and messed up. Why because they've been given bad logic.
They've been given logic that puts them in bondage rather
than liberating them into the power of God. They are
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arrested by the snare of the devil. This poor logic
is often framed with religion. It's framed by religious spirits
and force fed to believers all over the world, and
it is to our detriment. It's kind of like what
they have done with fast food. Because there's some stuff
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out there, they're still calling it food. It's not. It's
basically chemicals and plastic I U. And anyone that's done
their real research on food knows that not all things
that say food are really supposed to be eaten by humans,
you know. But that's not the point of this. What
I'm saying is we've had the same thing going on
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in the Body of Christ for a long time. We've
been fed a load of blooney, and blooney is a
mixed bag because some of you know, if you check
the ingredients on boloney, that's right, chemicals and plastic. Now
here's the deal. In the body of Christ. There is
a slogan that I promise you has caused a lot
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of confusion and pain and inner turmoil. And it is
the slogan God, He is in control. And I mean
I've watched this thing be delivered in every kind of circumstance.
Someone bumps their toe. God is in control. Someone loses
their house, God is in control. Someone you know has
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a big blessing come their way. God is in control.
So they feel that if they say that, somehow they
are in alignment with a proper biblical worldview. The only
problem is when you begin to try to apply this
logic to certain kinds of suffering, you quickly trigger certain
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people into distrust of God's character. That's just for an instance,
take the mother who has a three year old who
gets run over by a car and dies. Right when
you tell that grieving woman God is in control. What
essentially you're telling her is God gaslighted you because he
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made something happen so that he could get a reaction
out of you that would give him calls to condemn you,
because you know, you're you're sitting here suffering, struggling with
who God is, and you're being told, well, God is
the one that's the author of all of your pain,
and and somehow if you don't respond to that with well,
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you know, I feel perfectly trusting of him and perfectly
loved by him because this is what he's authoring in
my life. Now you have the issue, and there are
so many people that have been set up with this
kind of a thing, you know, and sometimes people they
just don't know what to say, so tragedy strikes as well.
God is in control, And it's like, you know, and
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I've watched people do really really silly things where they
make a lot of bad choices. It's like, well, I
got fired. God is in control? Brother, Why did you
get fired? Didn't show up to work how many times
all week? Well, so you're saying God is in Did
he control you to not show up to work all
week long? You know you have to start banding this.
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How about the most recent tragedy people are still talking
about right now, the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Did God
make the accession, pull that trigger and shoot that guy inhead?
I mean, you know, so where do we stop this
train of logic? Like, you know, if is God really
controlling everything? And this is a strong position that I've
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had because one of the things I've asserted is if
we believe that God is controlling everything, then we are
actually capable of executing nothing outside of what God is
already predetermined. In other words, we don't have a choice
whatever we end up doing with our lives, whether we
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get a reward or lose a reward at the end
of this lifelong journey, it is entirely being decided for
us by God. We are walking out a premeditated string
of events that may be to our blessing or detriment,
and the reality of choice is a fallacy? Is there
any justice in judging a person on the basis of
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a series of decisions they made that they were programmed
to make by a higher power of which they had
absolutely no actual control over. The answer is no. If
I program a robot to go into my neighbor's house
and knock over his fence, the robot isn't going to
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go to court for what I programmed the robot to do.
I will why because I am the one that's actually
guilty of making that robot do something that was not okay,
not con So how is it that God could be
a just judge, make us do stuff, control everything, and
not be the one that needs to be under judgment
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at the end of this experiment, Aha, See what I
want to do is I want to make sure that
you fully see why I'm having this conversation with Because
because we lose personal responsibility in the context of fallacy thinking,
we've been programmed with a religious idiom that makes us
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perceive a world that doesn't exist and engage the world
that does exist with broken logic. It actually empowers a
victim approach to life because we look at life, we
look at circumstances, and we say, well, if God is
in control, then whatever shall be shall be. That's the
abdication of personal responsibility. I say it's not that way
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at all. I say God is sovereign, and he is
sovereign over his creation, of which he has given free will.
The Bible says in Matthew six, nine and ten. Therefore,
in this manner, pray our Father, who's in heaven hollowed,
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be your name, your kingdom, Come, and your will be
done on earth as it is in heaven. The reason
why Jesus told his disciples to pray that way is
because fundamentally, Heaven and Earth are out of alignment. What
God has determined should happen and what does happen do
not matter by default. Why, because all of creation has
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fallen under the sway of bondage. The whole creation grows,
according to Romans chapter eight, awaiting the manifestation of the
Sons of God, because it will be delivered from bondage
to corruption. So the whole creation underneath Zion is essentially
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in a broken state of alignment. Earth being chief in
that whole conversation because everything that God is doing to
correct the problems in his creation are being authored through
the Earth. Earth is the place that received the fallen
Schaub Satan Lucifer. This planet received that being, and God
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put man in the same place that received that being
to play out an entire series of events through several
ages that would transpire on this planet involving mankind, so
that God, who came as a man, could redeem mankind
back to himself in right relationship, so that through that
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body of reconciliation, he could bring a resolution to the
conflict across all of creation. That's Colossians chapter one. So
what I'm saying is our whole job, from beginning to end,
is how are we bringing Heaven and Earth into alignment?
Because that is something that we do not buy a
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passenger approach to life in the passenger seat, anticipating that
something else is driving a weird just along for the right. No, friends,
you're the difference maker God sent to this earth. The
Bible is very clear that the will of God is
not always being done in another place. Two Peter Chapter
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three and verse nine. The Lord is not slack concerning
his promise as some count slackness, but is long suffering
toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that
all should come to repentance. And any person that has
observed this world for any period of time will know.
Not everybody repents. I mean, it's just the way it is.
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Anton LaVey, didn't you know, Aleister Crowley didn't There are
very wicked and evil people that have gone from the
beginning of their life to their end of their life
and died in outright or rebellion to God overt obstinates.
But it's not the will of God for that to happen.
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What does that mean? That means the will of God
isn't always done for us. So if the will of
God is always done, then God isn't controlling everything that happens.
And the religious mantra God is in control is actually
a fallacy. God is sovereign, but he has given his
creation free will. He has extended free will to so
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many elements of his creation. It is fantastic because the
angels have free will, mankind has free will. Even animals
have a degree of will. They make choices all the time.
So the Bible, the Bible gives us an environment where
we are understanding like whoa wait a minute, we are
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change agents. We are God's solution to the problem. God
Jesus is seated on the throne of David until all
of his enemies are made as footstool. There's a whole
conversation the Bible regarding the throne of David, and I
love this conversation. But God is essentially promising to David
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an everlasting throne. And you know, then the reign of
David ends with his death and Solomon takes over. And
even when Israel breaks up into two kingdoms Northern and
Southern Kingdom, right the lineage of David maps all the
way through Judah and to the Christ. And when we
get to Peter's sermon in Acts chapter two, we realize
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that the person who the Book of Psalm prophesies to
sit on the throne of David until all of his
enemies are made his footstool is Jesus. And that's where
Peter is explaining to all the people that are listening
on the day of Pentecost, this Christ whom you have say,
this is the one who will sit on the throne
of David, and who is sitting on the throne of David.
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And from that point we actually get even more references
through the New Testament to the Throne of David, extending
to Hebrews, where the Bible clearly articulates that Jesus is
still sitting on that throne until waiting until his enemies
are made his footstool, putting us in a dichotomy where
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you have a God who has finished the work he
came to do in his first coming, and who is
also sitting on a throne waiting for his enemies to
be made his footstool at the same time. So there
is a work that is ongoing that is mapped to us.
In other words, you have a purpose that is extraordinarily important,
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and you are here to make a difference, and it
will be your choice as to whether you get on
board with that difference making agenda God has for you
or not. And as we get to the end times,
this is where it changes some of our understanding of things,
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because you know, we read the Bible and we see
that there is a written, a written record of what
God intends to come, and depending on your interpretive model,
you're going to walk away from that written record with
different conclusions. However, at the end of the day, you
know there are some people that like to believe in
the inevitability of God's victory where it's just you know,
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well Jesus win's at the end, and you know, I
don't know, but God's in control and so he'll figure
it all out. This world is dark, it's fallen, and
everything's getting scary. And what I'm going to suggest to
you is it's not going to be quite that simple.
God is actually in the process of recruiting an army
of end Time warriors that take their assignment seriously to
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as sure that the power of God is at work
in the earth to bring about the events that produce
this second Coming. He's going to find those people. The
question is are you going to be one of them?
Because for every person that's sitting back, you know, chilling
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out for their pre trip rapture, you know, I'm sorry,
you're gonna miss the boat. You know. September twenty third
was last month. Friend, It's gone like it didn't happen.
There is an agenda of Heaven to bring about real
transformation with the people God sent here to bring it,
and the collaboration with Heaven is what is going to
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preduce the outcomes that reveal a second Coming event. In
other words, you know, the Bible has some interesting ways
of framing this thought right, And it all comes back
to getting out of the idea that God is controlling
everything and into the idea that God is sovereign and
we need to submit every gift, every calling, and every
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ability we've been given to his agenda. Let me explain
number one. In the Book of Revelation, chapter eleven and
verse fifteen, there's an event called the Seventh Trumpet. There
is no doubt that this event is the return of
Jesus Christ to the earth. And it's so interesting the
way it's language, because you know, leading up to this event,
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you have Revelation six talking about the seventh seals on
a book that Jesus is found worthy to open. He
looses these seals on the scroll. When he gets to
the seventh seal, it opens up and seven angels are
then given seven trumpets. Every time an angel sounds a trumpet,
a third of the earth is judged with a different
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kind of judgment. And then other things begin to happen.
The abyss is opened. At one point there is a
massive army that's released. Looks pretty hybrid. And then you
get to the seventh trumpet and it specifically says that
when the seventh Angel sounds, there are loud voices in heaven,
and they say, the kingdoms of this world have become
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the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ, and he
shall reign forever and ever. And the key thing about
that passage in Revelation eleven fifteen is that the words
have become reflect the present perfect tents. In other words,
when I say I have arrived, what that means is
I left a while ago, I traveled for a period
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of time prior to the present moment, and at this
present moment, I have arrived. Present perfect means there was
a series of events that began in the past that
conclude upon the present. That is a language that is
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deployed in Revelation eleven fifteen and said in other words,
just like I say I have arrived at your house,
meaning I had to leave my house and take a
whole path. Maybe you know, some of that was on foot,
some of that was in a car, some of that
was maybe in an airplane. If I had to fly
to your house and then get in a car and
uber and arrive and walk to your front door, right,
there's a whole series of events. The Bible is saying
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the kingdom of this world have become. What that means
is when Jesus were It's not as though those kingdoms
never started to become until He arrived and they just are. No.
Because that's how some people think it's gonna work. Some
people have this crazy idea in their head that the
Antichrist is gonna take over the whole earth. He's gonna
hurt people and torture people. It's gonna be awful. And
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God's mercy is that he gets us out of here
and then he comes back and takes over. But that's
not what the language says. The language is saying that
the nations were already becoming the aligned with the government
of Heaven in an increasing degree, and then when he comes,
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he finishes the process. Why are nations becoming the kingdoms
of our Lord and his Christ before the second coming
of Jesus? Answer, God sent you here. That's why God
is using his people to change timelines in the end
of the age prior to his return. The Bible has
a whole other conversation around the ride friends. The Bible
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says in Revelation nineteen that the wife of the Lamb
has made herself ready right, and that's the wife that
Jesus is receiving. That that means she's full grown. Friends,
that means that she's come to a place of maturity.
She's already acting like the queen, acting like the wife
of God before she is officially like wed at that return,
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which the second coming of Jesus is surrounded in wedding themology.
But she is ready. And when I'm saying is part
of becoming ready is doing what we need to do
as his wife before he returns in a full manifestation.
What I'm saying is, friend, you matter until next time,
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