Episode 574 of the A Minute to Midnite Show. John Haller joins Tony K. Recently we have seen important pieces of legislation introduced, and rapid technology developments that will give power to the Beast System.
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hi, folks, welcome to the Minute to Midnight Show. This
is Tony coming to you from in New Zealand and
with me I have today John Haller and John is
a regular guest on the show, but it's the first
time we've talked since March. John, so welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thanks. We both cover a lot of miles since we
talked the last time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Definitely, Yeah, you were telling me offline your long road trip,
and of course I was in the US as well, So,
I mean, John looked just so much happening. There's just
a million things we can talk about. To me, things
that are really showing up at the moment, big time,
is it. I think Donald Trump's showing who he really
is and he's basically bringing this whole technocratic thing to
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pass big time, very quickly with a Genius Act and
the big beautiful Billin, numerous other things. We're seeing all
the infrastructure being set up for the Beasts system really
rapidly before our eyes. And of course then you also
had the real life. So there's a ton of things
just in that a line.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, there is. I do think, you know, we we
who look at Bible prophecy and talk about current events
and how they related that type of thing. You know,
sometimes we get sort of bogged down in geopolitics, which
is extremely volatile, and we could do many hours talking
about that. But the technology side itself, I've been doing
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every six to eight weeks I've been doing a Technology
AI Transhumanism round table with bridgell Ed Scott Townsend, Pcarcia,
Tom Hughes, Patrick Wood, where we just sit and talk
for two and a half or three hours about some
of the trends that we see in technology. And I
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think a good starting point is what Patrick Woods said
a couple of years ago in an interview I think
it was with Tom Hughes, and he said, you know,
when we get into this final period of human history
some call the tribulation, some call seventieth week, that sort
of thing. There are some events in the middle of
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that seven year period. Jesus talked about the abomination of desolation,
and there's a whole you know, I called it the
I think I did it started. I don't know if
I ever gave the talk or not. I started doing
a talk like the week in the middle of the week.
And because it'll be a very you know, we talk
about things happening so fast right now. But Patrick made
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the point that when the Antichrist really completely totally reveals
himself at that time, he's not going to, you know,
come back from the temple in Jerusalem where he's declared
himself above all that is called God, and he's not
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going to have a meeting then with the false prophet
and say, hey, you know, let's can we crowd fund
at control system so we can control everybody and what
they do and how they buy and sell, because that's
what's talked about in Revelation thirteen and seventeen and eighteen.
Patrick's point was it's going to be ready to go,
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and alls they're going to have to do is flip
the switch. So as I've been watching the AI space,
the Technocrat space, the trans human space. We could go
for hours about that, and I'll just sort of remind
everybody that it was ten years ago May this past
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day that you've all Noah Harari went to Silicon Valley
to Google headquarters to talk. And it's a talk that
I don't think any of us found until the last
few years, but I've played it many times, and he
said this, I love coming to Silic Valley. I see
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my friends, but I love Silicon Valley because it is here.
And this is exactly what he said. It is here
that the religions that will control humanity in the twenty
first century are being created. Now. That's he said that
ten years ago, and look where we are now, and
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this has become a it is an existential crisis. It
was two and a half years ago Tony I sat
in a hotel room in Israel at a Christian media
summit put on by the Israeli government and they had
a business guy talking. You can find the video online
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on the on the Israeli Press Office website. And the
business guy said he was talking about chatchpt who had
that had just been released in the past week, so
it's already got over a million downloads, and it wasn't
too long after that where there was just this explosion
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of stuff in the artificial intelligence space and the goal
to get to Ray Kurzweil calls it the singularity. Other's
Elon Musk and others are pushing for this, and it's
a complete total control grid for humanity. It's what. So
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I'm seventy one and I've been followed Bible prophecy since
i was a kid, and there's been a lot of
theories about how this market the beast control system comes about.
And one of the things that we never were able
to point to was anything that was totally comprehensive control.
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It was always Cummings in it in some fashion. And
so this technology stuff, though, I think in our last roundtable,
Patrick Wood and some other somebody else pointed out that
from where we are right now, when we get down
one or two years, they're talking about an AI system
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that's ten thousand, at least ten thousand times more powerful
than what we have right now, which is probably ten
thousand times more powerful than what we had two years
ago when chat ChiPT came out. So when you start
stacking those exponential increases on top of each other, you're
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talking something that's just unbelievable. And so two years ago,
when this really started to come to the forefront, you
remember the famous interview with Eliezer Ludkowski, one of the
guys who's helped develop these AI systems, and he said,
it's an existential threat and if people want agree to
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slow down and stop it where we are, freeze it
where we are right now, we should bomb their server farms.
So in the interim, though, you and I and everybody
else that listens to you on a regular basis, and
the guests you have know that nothing's been done to
slow it down.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It's happening faster. And John, I mean I just I
mentioned that big beautiful bill of Trump's, like how much
money is in that towards surveillance and AI and creating
more server farms and so on. You've got this Genius Act,
which they're saying, oh, this means we don't get a CBDC,
But what it is is a CBDC by any other name,
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is you know, basically so the government can bring control
with that, You've got your real idea that Trump has pushed,
and so all of these things together are combining to
make this possible, and you and I they're going to
have to invest into like doubling the amount of electricity
that's made just because of all these server farms and
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all this AI empowerment. So they're going to have to
generate a whole heat more electricity to power these things.
And they're built, as you've said, they're building them in
all over the place, including near where you live. And
you also mentioned they're building a big drone factory off
e you seid to me as well near you.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So this is just that's going to use that's going
to use AI technology, and that's I think that's one
of the few things is I've kind of kind of
a little different view in the rush of the Ukraine
thing that I think this is incredibly important. What's going
on in Russia Ukraine war is a complete shift in
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how war will be fought in the future, however long
or short that period of time is. And what Ukraine
is doing is way out on the technology curve. They're
way ahead on the technology curve. So Russia still relies
on I mean, they're building drones and that type of thing,
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and there's been kind of this war back and forth
where Ukraine comes up with these great drones, then Russia
will develop something to jam them, then Ukraine will and
this is really recent development. In the last six to
eight weeks, Ukraine was flying these using fiber optics to
get around the jamming by the Russians, and now that
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has a limitation to it. But we saw that that
limitations like that didn't have an impact on Ukraine. They
got six five six thousand miles away from Ukraine and
attacked nuclear aircraft bases where they use the nuclear aircraft
or their nuclear Triad or whatever it is in Russia.
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They destroyed a bunch of their airplanes with these drones.
So they're and they're destroying ten million dollar tanks with
a three thousand dollars drone. I mean, the exponential power
that they're getting from these drones is incredible. Now. What
they're doing, though, is because of the GMing and because
fiber optics have the limitation, they're using AI to program
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autonomous drones which will make the kill decisions on their own.
And what Ukraine has now is Ukraine probably has more
battlefield data about how these things should be programmed than
anybody on the planet. That's why this war is whether
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regardless of the side that you support. This thing is
a huge game changer and it plays into a lot
of our end time scenarios that we talk about. And
you're you're seeing this form. You mentioned the Genius Act
that was just past last week, and we remember just
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think back, so this is, uh, we're recording this around
July twenty first, so six months ago. Now I guess
it was seven months ago. No, it was six months
ago Trump took office. And what was the picture were
what were the what was the images that, at least
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to you and me seem most important from his inauguration
to his second term were all the transhumanist and technocrats
that were sitting right behind him and the massive amount
of wealth that they have. I mean, they're richer than
a lot of countries, and there was probably I don't
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know three trillion dollars of personal net worth and just
the row sitting behind him at his inauguration speech. And
so the thing is, so if I back up for
a little bit, I think one of the most significant
video clips I've ever played was Pipamogram at the World
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Government Summit in Dubai back in I think it was
twenty twenty two, and she comes from a you know,
a financial family and she's a financial analyst, manager, whatever
it is she does. And she said, you know, this
technology stuff is developing, and we need a digital bill
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of rights to protect the rights of people. So here
we sit three years over, three years later, and have
you gotten your copy of the digital bill of rights
that the technocrats have put in place? And so there
was there was a lot of hope by a lot
of people that Trump wouldn't fall for it, okay, and
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so so now we have in the Genius Act, and
it's called I'm not sure why it's called the Genius Act.
It's surely certainly not a reference to the people that
enacted it and drafted it, unless you would say they're evil.
It should be the Evil Genius Act. But it does
talk about and this is something that I've talked about,
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richel Lett has talked about, a bunch of other people
have talked about the tokenization of assets, turning everything into
something digital, and having a digital token to represent your property,
your car, all of those things. And the argument is, well,
we need it for security in an age like this,
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and okay, that argument works, but it's also it turns
into a massive control grid, a medium, and so there
is a p vision. There's actually a definition in the
Genius Act bill, which I don't think Trump has signed
it yet, but I think it's passed both our Senate
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and the House and now goes to be signed by Trump,
and if he doesn't sign it, it becomes law. But
it has definitions for digital assets, digital money, that type
of thing, and it talks about we're going to build
everything on the blockchain. And while Trump came into office
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the first day, he signed an executive order saying no
central bank digital currency. What you just said is one
hundred percent correct. Central central bank digital currency uses blockchain.
That's what Pip and Maulgram was talking about three and
a half years ago at the World Government Summit, and
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she said it was serious enough. We need a digital
bill of rights. And by the way, there's no digital
Bill of Rights in the Genius Act either.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's interesting that many people have said along the way
the Federal Reserve will be expendable in the elites plans,
and I think what this Genius Act Stable Coins Act
is going to do is mean that the Federal Reserve
is expendable, but the government will still have control over
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everything through the stable coins. It won't be necessarily a
federal reserve central bank digital currency, but it will still
have oversight. The government has to approve, or anybody that
puts out a stable coin has to have the federal
if it's a big enough one has to have the
federal backing, and then state backing on some of the
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smaller ones. So basically the government gets to control. And
they'll be programmable too. So it is a central bank
digital currency really in anything but name as far as
I concern, and not that I'm an expert on it
by a long shot, but there are a lot of
people that know a lot more than I do about
it that are saying this type of thing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
So look, I mean, I think you know Patrick Woyd.
You can follow him at technocracy dot news and get
a lot of really good, current relevant information. And he
had an article of I don't think he wrote it
the other day, and the article said essentially, it's over.
It's over. I mean, it's here. And so I was
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saying this that, you know, while I was hopeful in
some respects, I was also realistic enough to know that
the momentum in this thing is not going to be stopped.
I mean, we saw Tony. As we drove, we drove
eighty three hundred miles across the US. We saw massive
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server farm data installations everywhere we went. I didn't see
the one in Indiana, it's not too far from Notre Dame.
And also where we went I went to college, they
took over a farm. They've built six of these massive
data buildings, you know, server rack buildings. These buildings are
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like as long as the Empire State is building is talled,
like twelve hundred feet long. They have six of them there.
It was a big article on the Wall Street Journal.
They did a drone flyover of the area. They're planning
on building at this one location twenty four more. And
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I found out over the weekend from my niece who
lives near there. The guy that sold the farm, they
wanted his land badly. They paid him, I'm told, hundreds
of millions of dollars more than it was worth. And
why did they pick that farm Because it's where two
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major electrical grid trunk lines cross. It's like right at
the intersection of them, the east West and the north South,
and they can tap into it there. It's exactly what
you just were talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, I mean it's this huge and then I've got
the real idea act. Of course it came in as well,
and the big beautiful bill. And interestingly, I see that
Larry Allison, who was one of those people you mentioned
right at the start of Trump's administration, you know, with
that he started edded them with a five hundred yeah,
five hundred billion dollars. He's now supposedly the second richest
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man in the world. I say that there are probably
people behind the scenes that are richer. But on the
face of the.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Well, what yeah, Ellison's whole thing is Oracle's database. It's database.
It's how they you know, interconnect and extract information from databases.
It's what if if there's not anything else that describes
control Grid, I don't know what does than a guy.
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And and it's always interesting the name that they choose
for these companies, Oracle. You know, it has these philosophical
religious overtones to it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, well, I guess it is old filming. You know,
it is a religion. I can see how the false
profit and all that will be able to use AI
for the image of the base and all of that
when when it comes to it big time and you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, we want to talk about Peter just briefly. Yeah, well,
I don't know if you could talk about Peter Thield briefly,
it would be great if he would just shut up,
then we can kind of analyze what he said. But
he keeps talking. So I think it was this week
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he did an interview with The New York Times with
Ralse Dolfatt, who's sort of the nominal Christian at the
New York Times, and this led to and I watch
part of it. You can find it on YouTube. Maybe
it's three weeks old if I think about it. So
here it's interesting. So Peter Thiel claims to be a
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Christian early investor and a whole bunch of stuff like Facebook, SpaceX, Airbnb.
He's a billionaire early backer Donald Trump, leading donor to
the twenty sixteen campaign, and he's a friend and mentor
to JD. Vans, who probably if everything goes along the
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track that it has and we still have the United
States in three years, he'll be the candidate, probably the
Republican candidate for president. He's a guy from Ohio, from Middletown, Ohio,
of all places. So anyway, so here's an article. The
Spectator World has a new cover and it's about AI.
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And the lead article in the magazine just came out Tuesday,
January July fifteenth, where the real threat of AI is spiritual.
That's the editorial. We're primed to think of any existential
threat from computers as fiction, but it's not fiction. And
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they know this is just this paragraph and a conversation
with journalist Ross Stout that THEO was asked whether he
wanted the human race to endure. He seemed unsure. I
don't know, he said, after a long pause. I would,
I would. There's so many questions implicit in this. Now
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the simple answer to that question is yes, absolutely. He
then at the end of the interview, I think it's
in three parts. It's several hours long, and I played
a clip of it in my Prophecy update on Sunday,
July twentieth. And there's also many instances in the past
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few months where Peter Tiel is running around doing speeches,
ted talks or whatever, where he continually brings up the
anti Christ and Armageddon. And there was I believe there
was a spot in that interview with Ross Douthought where
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douth thought said, are you the Anti Christ? Now? It
would seem that the answer to that question. If you
ask me that question right now, I would say no, no, no, no.
He paused it was another one of these pregnant pauses,
and why is that happening? And and he was talking
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tony about eschatology. So this is the point of been
making in some of my recent prophecy talks. When secular people,
when secular transhumanist, when secular transhumanists technocrats speak in terms
that are used in the Bible and prophetic passages, the
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Christian people first need to get a clue about those passages,
and they need to pay attention to what those people
are saying because it's very indicative of the times in
which we live.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, well he's guy, he's a transhumanist. He's like you said,
Trump picker. He's also got bought citizenship in New Zealand,
so he has here for New Zealand. Is paid of
Teel's escape hitch. And yeah, he's a billionaire. He's started
he was one of the founders of PayPal too. He's
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also the Pallenteer, which is Trump is using Palenteer big time,
and so are other governments part of this whole control grid.
And for the war and the drone technology and all that.
Do you mention before that all comes back to Peter.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Tiel, Yeah, and it comes back to Palaeer and palanteer
Is does have a contract with the government now to
I don't know how else to describe it, to hoover
up everybody's data and centralize it. And so that's Oracle,
that's database, that's Palaenteer. And a few months ago there
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was a defense think tank. This is this is something
that's amazing to me as somebody who kind of watches
what's going on. Everybody's got these conferences, They've got these webinars,
They've got these seminars, they have these slick PDF publications
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all over the place. I mean, my hard I have
to clean my hard drive off and I have a
two terabyte hard drive. I'm running out of space every
month because of the stuff that I can download and read.
And they all put it out. It's not like they're
hiding it. And so there was a big conference, think
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tank conference called the Reagan Defense Form. They brought in
a whole bunch of defense guys. You can find the video.
I played part of the video from Alex Karp, who
is the CEO co founder of Palaeer and by the way, Palenteer,
I believe is a word. The name of the company
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comes from the Lord of the Rings, so it has
kind of a mystical fictional aspect to it, just like
Larry Elson has Oracle, but Carp and it's always interesting.
His name is Carp, his hair is wilder than Albert
Einstein's was, and his name is carp, which is a
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bottom feeding fish, which is kind of an interesting connection,
I think. And he was talking about what we're going
to do with Ai here in America because he's a
gung ho American and he wants America to lead the
world in this and he said I and I will admit, Tony,
I have extremely mixed emotions and feelings about this because
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I understand where all of this is going, but I
also want I don't know when my exitate is. Nobody
knows when their exitate is, and so you want to
leave live a peaceful life, you know, until you're out
of here. So I don't want bad guys to have
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control of this stuff. So I hear Alex Carpeny says,
we in the US want to lead the world and
we want the bad guys. I'm paraphrasing what he said.
You can watch the video for yourself. I want the
bad guys all over the world to go to sleep
and to wake up scared the death of us. Now,
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part of me likes that because that's what I would
expect our military would do. But the problem is that
the technocrats, the transhumanists are I don't know how to
say this the right way, and maybe you can throw
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your thoughts in here. They're operating outside the system. There's
no regulation. So we put in the Genius Act that
gives them more ability to act, right, but there's no regulation.
And so I understand where Alex Karp is coming from,
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because we live in a world where Russia, Ukraine, China
and people that you know might clearly be considered our
enemies are racing ahead with this and nobody the EU
is trying to put regulations in place, and it said joke,
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because China is not going to follow that. China's going
to steal and do what they've done with technology all
the way along. And I don't know what the answer is, Okay,
All I know is I live in the world where
this stuff is not getting rolled back, and I live
in a world where I'm increasingly looking forward to the
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return of Jesus to clean this mess up because I
don't know of any other solution at this point.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
There is no other solution. And people that are putting,
you know, like the Dominionists, the saf Mountains people and
that extolled you know, Trump as some sort of a
man to fight this when basically he's come forward and
he's pushing it. And yes, you're saying, oh, well, America
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needs to lead it, that's what they're saying. But I
look at it and go, this is just a Bible
prophecy playing out.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
There is no stopping it.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It doesn't matter who you put in there as a
leader or whatever, it's not going to stop. And people
can have their idea about some politician or other being
the man that God's put there for the hour or whatever. Well,
I see, yeah, okay, God's you know, allowed them there
to for forward this whole agenda that is leading us
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into these end times prophecies like Revelation thirteen and so on.
So anybody that's putting their hope in any sort of
politician or any other solution, I think it's time as
well past that we've got to realize this is where
it's heading. And then we have to think what do
we do as individuals keeping our life right, I guess,
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And how do we tap into God's wisdom in this
situation because it isn't going to go away, as you say,
it isn't going to change, and it's just rapidly being
coming into place. And if it's only a few years
away till Jesus does return, then it isn't going to stop.
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This is the trajectory we're on, and people need to
really get that into their head. It's not like, oh,
if we just do this thing and this thing and
put this regulation in place, we can slow it down.
We can stop it, we can regulate it.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's too late, yeah, I mean it's it's difficult. So
I don't want to swerve off into another area. You know.
It's part part of this struggle that we all have
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is we have this the normalcy bias. You know. We
want to think that everything is okay and there's nothing
to worry about. And I'll admit I see that too,
and so I look, I look at like all these
things coming out of Washington, DC recently, the Epstein this
and the Russian hoax files and a lot of people
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on my political side of the aisle I'm a conservative,
are really upset about a lot of things, and it's
Trump's base. But I'm also I was a trial lawyer.
I know how difficult these cases are to put together.
And so the Trump people have only been in place
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really for maybe four months, and in many cases there's
still not in place because and so prosecuting people for
these things is extremely difficult under the best of circumstances,
and it takes a while. I was involved in a
big criminal case for a client. In fact, some of
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that is still going on. It started in October of
two thousand and two. So here we sit, what almost
twenty three years later. I'm still working on at least
one small aspect of that case. It took years and
years to put things together, and so it'll take a
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long time to put things together once you get access
to everything on like Epstein and Russia and all this stuff.
But in the meantime, the technocrats march forward with no restrictions.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Well, it's the reast of it's a distraction. The news
headlines will talk about Obama and a conspiracy against the
Trump administration and so on, and people will buy into that.
Meanwhile these other things is slipping through and creating this
did all control grid, and people are being entertained by
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stories about whatever star is doing this and that and
the other thing, and oh, here's the latest photos of someone.
Doesn't she look good at seventy one or whatever? And
then you've got you know, this other stuff, and it's
distracting people from what's really the issues, and the really
important stuff is getting put into place, like big building
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blocks to create this system really rapidly. That's how I
see it.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, and so when this mark of the Beasts system
comes about, it's flipping a switch. That's all they're going
to have to do. It's not going to be they're
not going to have to build it. They're not going
to have to fund it or anything like that. And
it's I will say, I don't know exactly what that
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system looks like, but I can't imagine that there's anything
that it needs that is an existent right now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, it's definitely so much happening. It's just putting these
final things into position, like the pieces in the jigsaw puzzle.
But okay, so I guess we'd better look to wrapping up.
But I don't want to leave this in a totally
negative space. So as Christians, John, We're still going to
have hope. We're still going to have hope in our salvation,
We're still going to have hope for our future. And
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so what would you say to people that are listening,
that are going, Oh, this's just because some people get scared.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, you know. Look, I will only say from my
own personal standpoint. I know about all of this. I
study it, I talk about it. I don't do it
to scare people. I do it to remind people of
where their hope really is, that all of this stuff
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is temporary. I saw a secular guy, not a Christian,
Jerry Seinfeld the other day, made a very good point.
He goes, they said, well, you get a lot of
negative feedback, don't you, And he goes, I don't care.
I don't care. He said, I'm here for such a
(36:18):
short time that I'm not going to let that stuff
bother me. I'm going to focus on what I need
to focus on, and what we need to focus on
is Jesus and helping to build his church and sharing
the Gospel and discipling people even now. And so while
I talk about all this, I really don't get scared. Okay,
(36:39):
I see it happening. I know it's there, and maybe
it's because I'm older, and I know that under the
statistical chances of me being around for a very very
long time is not that high, and so I don't
worry about it. I know where I'm going. But I
(37:00):
will also say that I think that the thetical chances
of all of us being around here for a very
very long time until Jesus returns that windows closing. And
so people need to get right with the Lord right now.
(37:20):
That it's not something that you can shove off. It
can change, and we've watched it change very quickly. And
this is, as you know, this is operating on many,
many different levels. It's just not the tech side. It's
geo politics, it's moral, it's a religious and sort of
(37:41):
in the technocracy space. You're seeing emerging a merging of
the religious, spiritual and technical in a way that I
think a lot of us have followed us. We're always
saying I didn't think I would see this. I didn't
think I would see this. And I joke with somebody
(38:02):
last week when we were to set up a tip jar
that every time you see that you have to throw
it twenty in and then whoever's running the tip jar
could retire and try to get away from all of this.
But I don't know. I don't sit around. I really
don't sit around worried because I know where my hope lies,
and I know where my ultimate destination is with the Lord.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And we need to do that. And anyone that doesn't
know the Lord needs to get their lives right now
with God. I think it's also proven to do some
sort of preparations for things as best as we can.
It's also really good to get some enjoyment out of
life and just enjoy the simple things while we can
as well, because we don't know how much longer we
(38:45):
would even have that freedom. So enjoy the day as
much as possible, keep your lives right with God. And
it's good to be educated on this stuff, but don't
let it consume you. That's how I look at it. So, John,
where do people find you out?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Let me just say. Pam and I took a trip
out west, and she remarked, I remarked a few times
more than a few times during that trip, is the
world is very very big and we are very very small.
It's amazing how much space. There are more telephone polls
than people's out of Wyoming, people than Wyoming and South
(39:21):
Dakota and elsewhere. So where people can find me. Fpchapel
dot com is the church website Fellowship Bible Chapel Fpchapel
dot com, Fellowship Bible Chapel on YouTube. You can also
just search my name and then also Rumble Real FBC
and we do have an app and that type of thing.
(39:41):
And I will be leading a tour to the Holy
Land to Israel. We're going to try to get some
unique sites in if possible. You know, it's always right now.
A couple months ago, I was saying, I don't know
if this is going to happen. I think it's going
to happen now. That's in October six through the twentieth.
(40:02):
Than if there's a link for John Hower Israel tour
Atfchapel dot com if you're interested in joining up on that.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
All right, sounds good. Well, thank you for being on
the show again today, John, and let's do.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
It again soon. Thanks too, Best to you and Holly Cheers.
Thanks and send our regards to Pam too.
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Speaker 3 (01:00):
Hi, folks, welcome to the Minute to Midnight Show. This
is Tony coming to you from in New Zealand and
with me I have today John Haller and John is
a regular guest on the show, but it's the first
time we've talked since March. John, so welcome back.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Thanks. We both cover a lot of miles since we
talked the last time.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
Definitely, Yeah, you were telling me offline your long road trip,
and of course I was in the US as well, So,
I mean, John looked just so much happening. There's just
a million things we can talk about. To me, things
that are really showing up at the moment, big time,
is it. I think Donald Trump's showing who he really
is and he's basically bringing this whole technocratic thing to
(01:44):
pass big time, very quickly with a Genius Act and
the big beautiful Billin, numerous other things. We're seeing all
the infrastructure being set up for the Beasts system really
rapidly before our eyes. And of course then you also
had the real life. So there's a ton of things
just in that a line.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Yeah, there is. I do think, you know, we we
who look at Bible prophecy and talk about current events
and how they related that type of thing. You know,
sometimes we get sort of bogged down in geopolitics, which
is extremely volatile, and we could do many hours talking
about that. But the technology side itself, I've been doing
(02:28):
every six to eight weeks I've been doing a Technology
AI Transhumanism round table with bridgell Ed Scott Townsend, Pcarcia,
Tom Hughes, Patrick Wood, where we just sit and talk
for two and a half or three hours about some
of the trends that we see in technology. And I
(02:49):
think a good starting point is what Patrick Woods said
a couple of years ago in an interview I think
it was with Tom Hughes, and he said, you know,
when we get into this final period of human history
some call the tribulation, some call seventieth week, that sort
of thing. There are some events in the middle of
(03:09):
that seven year period. Jesus talked about the abomination of desolation,
and there's a whole you know, I called it the
I think I did it started. I don't know if
I ever gave the talk or not. I started doing
a talk like the week in the middle of the week.
And because it'll be a very you know, we talk
about things happening so fast right now. But Patrick made
(03:32):
the point that when the Antichrist really completely totally reveals
himself at that time, he's not going to, you know,
come back from the temple in Jerusalem where he's declared
himself above all that is called God, and he's not
(03:53):
going to have a meeting then with the false prophet
and say, hey, you know, let's can we crowd fund
at control system so we can control everybody and what
they do and how they buy and sell, because that's
what's talked about in Revelation thirteen and seventeen and eighteen.
Patrick's point was it's going to be ready to go,
(04:14):
and alls they're going to have to do is flip
the switch. So as I've been watching the AI space,
the Technocrat space, the trans human space. We could go
for hours about that, and I'll just sort of remind
everybody that it was ten years ago May this past
(04:39):
day that you've all Noah Harari went to Silicon Valley
to Google headquarters to talk. And it's a talk that
I don't think any of us found until the last
few years, but I've played it many times, and he
said this, I love coming to Silic Valley. I see
(05:02):
my friends, but I love Silicon Valley because it is here.
And this is exactly what he said. It is here
that the religions that will control humanity in the twenty
first century are being created. Now. That's he said that
ten years ago, and look where we are now, and
(05:25):
this has become a it is an existential crisis. It
was two and a half years ago Tony I sat
in a hotel room in Israel at a Christian media
summit put on by the Israeli government and they had
a business guy talking. You can find the video online
(05:48):
on the on the Israeli Press Office website. And the
business guy said he was talking about chatchpt who had
that had just been released in the past week, so
it's already got over a million downloads, and it wasn't
too long after that where there was just this explosion
(06:11):
of stuff in the artificial intelligence space and the goal
to get to Ray Kurzweil calls it the singularity. Other's
Elon Musk and others are pushing for this, and it's
a complete total control grid for humanity. It's what. So
(06:34):
I'm seventy one and I've been followed Bible prophecy since
i was a kid, and there's been a lot of
theories about how this market the beast control system comes about.
And one of the things that we never were able
to point to was anything that was totally comprehensive control.
(06:58):
It was always Cummings in it in some fashion. And
so this technology stuff, though, I think in our last roundtable,
Patrick Wood and some other somebody else pointed out that
from where we are right now, when we get down
one or two years, they're talking about an AI system
(07:22):
that's ten thousand, at least ten thousand times more powerful
than what we have right now, which is probably ten
thousand times more powerful than what we had two years
ago when chat ChiPT came out. So when you start
stacking those exponential increases on top of each other, you're
(07:43):
talking something that's just unbelievable. And so two years ago,
when this really started to come to the forefront, you
remember the famous interview with Eliezer Ludkowski, one of the
guys who's helped develop these AI systems, and he said,
it's an existential threat and if people want agree to
(08:04):
slow down and stop it where we are, freeze it
where we are right now, we should bomb their server farms.
So in the interim, though, you and I and everybody
else that listens to you on a regular basis, and
the guests you have know that nothing's been done to
slow it down.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
It's happening faster. And John, I mean I just I
mentioned that big beautiful bill of Trump's, like how much
money is in that towards surveillance and AI and creating
more server farms and so on. You've got this Genius Act,
which they're saying, oh, this means we don't get a CBDC,
But what it is is a CBDC by any other name,
(08:45):
is you know, basically so the government can bring control
with that, You've got your real idea that Trump has pushed,
and so all of these things together are combining to
make this possible, and you and I they're going to
have to invest into like doubling the amount of electricity
that's made just because of all these server farms and
(09:08):
all this AI empowerment. So they're going to have to
generate a whole heat more electricity to power these things.
And they're built, as you've said, they're building them in
all over the place, including near where you live. And
you also mentioned they're building a big drone factory off
e you seid to me as well near you.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
So this is just that's going to use that's going
to use AI technology, and that's I think that's one
of the few things is I've kind of kind of
a little different view in the rush of the Ukraine
thing that I think this is incredibly important. What's going
on in Russia Ukraine war is a complete shift in
(09:51):
how war will be fought in the future, however long
or short that period of time is. And what Ukraine
is doing is way out on the technology curve. They're
way ahead on the technology curve. So Russia still relies
on I mean, they're building drones and that type of thing,
(10:14):
and there's been kind of this war back and forth
where Ukraine comes up with these great drones, then Russia
will develop something to jam them, then Ukraine will and
this is really recent development. In the last six to
eight weeks, Ukraine was flying these using fiber optics to
get around the jamming by the Russians, and now that
(10:37):
has a limitation to it. But we saw that that
limitations like that didn't have an impact on Ukraine. They
got six five six thousand miles away from Ukraine and
attacked nuclear aircraft bases where they use the nuclear aircraft
or their nuclear Triad or whatever it is in Russia.
(11:00):
They destroyed a bunch of their airplanes with these drones.
So they're and they're destroying ten million dollar tanks with
a three thousand dollars drone. I mean, the exponential power
that they're getting from these drones is incredible. Now. What
they're doing, though, is because of the GMing and because
fiber optics have the limitation, they're using AI to program
(11:27):
autonomous drones which will make the kill decisions on their own.
And what Ukraine has now is Ukraine probably has more
battlefield data about how these things should be programmed than
anybody on the planet. That's why this war is whether
(11:47):
regardless of the side that you support. This thing is
a huge game changer and it plays into a lot
of our end time scenarios that we talk about. And
you're you're seeing this form. You mentioned the Genius Act
that was just past last week, and we remember just
(12:10):
think back, so this is, uh, we're recording this around
July twenty first, so six months ago. Now I guess
it was seven months ago. No, it was six months
ago Trump took office. And what was the picture were
what were the what was the images that, at least
(12:31):
to you and me seem most important from his inauguration
to his second term were all the transhumanist and technocrats
that were sitting right behind him and the massive amount
of wealth that they have. I mean, they're richer than
a lot of countries, and there was probably I don't
(12:52):
know three trillion dollars of personal net worth and just
the row sitting behind him at his inauguration speech. And
so the thing is, so if I back up for
a little bit, I think one of the most significant
video clips I've ever played was Pipamogram at the World
(13:14):
Government Summit in Dubai back in I think it was
twenty twenty two, and she comes from a you know,
a financial family and she's a financial analyst, manager, whatever
it is she does. And she said, you know, this
technology stuff is developing, and we need a digital bill
(13:38):
of rights to protect the rights of people. So here
we sit three years over, three years later, and have
you gotten your copy of the digital bill of rights
that the technocrats have put in place? And so there
was there was a lot of hope by a lot
of people that Trump wouldn't fall for it, okay, and
(14:04):
so so now we have in the Genius Act, and
it's called I'm not sure why it's called the Genius Act.
It's surely certainly not a reference to the people that
enacted it and drafted it, unless you would say they're evil.
It should be the Evil Genius Act. But it does
talk about and this is something that I've talked about,
(14:26):
richel Lett has talked about, a bunch of other people
have talked about the tokenization of assets, turning everything into
something digital, and having a digital token to represent your property,
your car, all of those things. And the argument is, well,
we need it for security in an age like this,
(14:49):
and okay, that argument works, but it's also it turns
into a massive control grid, a medium, and so there
is a p vision. There's actually a definition in the
Genius Act bill, which I don't think Trump has signed
it yet, but I think it's passed both our Senate
(15:10):
and the House and now goes to be signed by Trump,
and if he doesn't sign it, it becomes law. But
it has definitions for digital assets, digital money, that type
of thing, and it talks about we're going to build
everything on the blockchain. And while Trump came into office
(15:30):
the first day, he signed an executive order saying no
central bank digital currency. What you just said is one
hundred percent correct. Central central bank digital currency uses blockchain.
That's what Pip and Maulgram was talking about three and
a half years ago at the World Government Summit, and
(15:53):
she said it was serious enough. We need a digital
bill of rights. And by the way, there's no digital
Bill of Rights in the Genius Act either.
Speaker 3 (16:02):
It's interesting that many people have said along the way
the Federal Reserve will be expendable in the elites plans,
and I think what this Genius Act Stable Coins Act
is going to do is mean that the Federal Reserve
is expendable, but the government will still have control over
(16:22):
everything through the stable coins. It won't be necessarily a
federal reserve central bank digital currency, but it will still
have oversight. The government has to approve, or anybody that
puts out a stable coin has to have the federal
if it's a big enough one has to have the
federal backing, and then state backing on some of the
(16:44):
smaller ones. So basically the government gets to control. And
they'll be programmable too. So it is a central bank
digital currency really in anything but name as far as
I concern, and not that I'm an expert on it
by a long shot, but there are a lot of
people that know a lot more than I do about
it that are saying this type of thing.
Speaker 4 (17:06):
So look, I mean, I think you know Patrick Woyd.
You can follow him at technocracy dot news and get
a lot of really good, current relevant information. And he
had an article of I don't think he wrote it
the other day, and the article said essentially, it's over.
It's over. I mean, it's here. And so I was
(17:30):
saying this that, you know, while I was hopeful in
some respects, I was also realistic enough to know that
the momentum in this thing is not going to be stopped.
I mean, we saw Tony. As we drove, we drove
eighty three hundred miles across the US. We saw massive
(17:57):
server farm data installations everywhere we went. I didn't see
the one in Indiana, it's not too far from Notre Dame.
And also where we went I went to college, they
took over a farm. They've built six of these massive
data buildings, you know, server rack buildings. These buildings are
(18:20):
like as long as the Empire State is building is talled,
like twelve hundred feet long. They have six of them there.
It was a big article on the Wall Street Journal.
They did a drone flyover of the area. They're planning
on building at this one location twenty four more. And
(18:41):
I found out over the weekend from my niece who
lives near there. The guy that sold the farm, they
wanted his land badly. They paid him, I'm told, hundreds
of millions of dollars more than it was worth. And
why did they pick that farm Because it's where two
(19:05):
major electrical grid trunk lines cross. It's like right at
the intersection of them, the east West and the north South,
and they can tap into it there. It's exactly what
you just were talking about.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Yeah, I mean it's this huge and then I've got
the real idea act. Of course it came in as well,
and the big beautiful bill. And interestingly, I see that
Larry Allison, who was one of those people you mentioned
right at the start of Trump's administration, you know, with
that he started edded them with a five hundred yeah,
five hundred billion dollars. He's now supposedly the second richest
(19:46):
man in the world. I say that there are probably
people behind the scenes that are richer. But on the
face of the.
Speaker 4 (19:53):
Well, what yeah, Ellison's whole thing is Oracle's database. It's database.
It's how they you know, interconnect and extract information from databases.
It's what if if there's not anything else that describes
control Grid, I don't know what does than a guy.
(20:13):
And and it's always interesting the name that they choose
for these companies, Oracle. You know, it has these philosophical
religious overtones to it.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Yeah, well, I guess it is old filming. You know,
it is a religion. I can see how the false
profit and all that will be able to use AI
for the image of the base and all of that
when when it comes to it big time and you.
Speaker 4 (20:48):
Yeah, we want to talk about Peter just briefly. Yeah, well,
I don't know if you could talk about Peter Thield briefly,
it would be great if he would just shut up,
then we can kind of analyze what he said. But
he keeps talking. So I think it was this week
(21:10):
he did an interview with The New York Times with
Ralse Dolfatt, who's sort of the nominal Christian at the
New York Times, and this led to and I watch
part of it. You can find it on YouTube. Maybe
it's three weeks old if I think about it. So
here it's interesting. So Peter Thiel claims to be a
(21:31):
Christian early investor and a whole bunch of stuff like Facebook, SpaceX, Airbnb.
He's a billionaire early backer Donald Trump, leading donor to
the twenty sixteen campaign, and he's a friend and mentor
to JD. Vans, who probably if everything goes along the
(21:52):
track that it has and we still have the United
States in three years, he'll be the candidate, probably the
Republican candidate for president. He's a guy from Ohio, from Middletown, Ohio,
of all places. So anyway, so here's an article. The
Spectator World has a new cover and it's about AI.
(22:12):
And the lead article in the magazine just came out Tuesday,
January July fifteenth, where the real threat of AI is spiritual.
That's the editorial. We're primed to think of any existential
threat from computers as fiction, but it's not fiction. And
(22:33):
they know this is just this paragraph and a conversation
with journalist Ross Stout that THEO was asked whether he
wanted the human race to endure. He seemed unsure. I
don't know, he said, after a long pause. I would,
I would. There's so many questions implicit in this. Now
(22:53):
the simple answer to that question is yes, absolutely. He
then at the end of the interview, I think it's
in three parts. It's several hours long, and I played
a clip of it in my Prophecy update on Sunday,
July twentieth. And there's also many instances in the past
(23:17):
few months where Peter Tiel is running around doing speeches,
ted talks or whatever, where he continually brings up the
anti Christ and Armageddon. And there was I believe there
was a spot in that interview with Ross Douthought where
(23:40):
douth thought said, are you the Anti Christ? Now? It
would seem that the answer to that question. If you
ask me that question right now, I would say no, no, no, no.
He paused it was another one of these pregnant pauses,
and why is that happening? And and he was talking
(24:02):
tony about eschatology. So this is the point of been
making in some of my recent prophecy talks. When secular people,
when secular transhumanist, when secular transhumanists technocrats speak in terms
that are used in the Bible and prophetic passages, the
(24:26):
Christian people first need to get a clue about those passages,
and they need to pay attention to what those people
are saying because it's very indicative of the times in
which we live.
Speaker 3 (24:40):
Yeah, well he's guy, he's a transhumanist. He's like you said,
Trump picker. He's also got bought citizenship in New Zealand,
so he has here for New Zealand. Is paid of
Teel's escape hitch. And yeah, he's a billionaire. He's started
he was one of the founders of PayPal too. He's
(25:01):
also the Pallenteer, which is Trump is using Palenteer big time,
and so are other governments part of this whole control grid.
And for the war and the drone technology and all that.
Do you mention before that all comes back to Peter.
Speaker 4 (25:17):
Tiel, Yeah, and it comes back to Palaeer and palanteer
Is does have a contract with the government now to
I don't know how else to describe it, to hoover
up everybody's data and centralize it. And so that's Oracle,
that's database, that's Palaenteer. And a few months ago there
(25:41):
was a defense think tank. This is this is something
that's amazing to me as somebody who kind of watches
what's going on. Everybody's got these conferences, They've got these webinars,
They've got these seminars, they have these slick PDF publications
(26:05):
all over the place. I mean, my hard I have
to clean my hard drive off and I have a
two terabyte hard drive. I'm running out of space every
month because of the stuff that I can download and read.
And they all put it out. It's not like they're
hiding it. And so there was a big conference, think
(26:27):
tank conference called the Reagan Defense Form. They brought in
a whole bunch of defense guys. You can find the video.
I played part of the video from Alex Karp, who
is the CEO co founder of Palaeer and by the way, Palenteer,
I believe is a word. The name of the company
(26:47):
comes from the Lord of the Rings, so it has
kind of a mystical fictional aspect to it, just like
Larry Elson has Oracle, but Carp and it's always interesting.
His name is Carp, his hair is wilder than Albert
Einstein's was, and his name is carp, which is a
(27:09):
bottom feeding fish, which is kind of an interesting connection,
I think. And he was talking about what we're going
to do with Ai here in America because he's a
gung ho American and he wants America to lead the
world in this and he said I and I will admit, Tony,
I have extremely mixed emotions and feelings about this because
(27:34):
I understand where all of this is going, but I
also want I don't know when my exitate is. Nobody
knows when their exitate is, and so you want to
leave live a peaceful life, you know, until you're out
of here. So I don't want bad guys to have
(27:56):
control of this stuff. So I hear Alex Carpeny says,
we in the US want to lead the world and
we want the bad guys. I'm paraphrasing what he said.
You can watch the video for yourself. I want the
bad guys all over the world to go to sleep
and to wake up scared the death of us. Now,
(28:21):
part of me likes that because that's what I would
expect our military would do. But the problem is that
the technocrats, the transhumanists are I don't know how to
say this the right way, and maybe you can throw
(28:41):
your thoughts in here. They're operating outside the system. There's
no regulation. So we put in the Genius Act that
gives them more ability to act, right, but there's no regulation.
And so I understand where Alex Karp is coming from,
(29:04):
because we live in a world where Russia, Ukraine, China
and people that you know might clearly be considered our
enemies are racing ahead with this and nobody the EU
is trying to put regulations in place, and it said joke,
(29:25):
because China is not going to follow that. China's going
to steal and do what they've done with technology all
the way along. And I don't know what the answer is, Okay,
All I know is I live in the world where
this stuff is not getting rolled back, and I live
in a world where I'm increasingly looking forward to the
(29:46):
return of Jesus to clean this mess up because I
don't know of any other solution at this point.
Speaker 3 (29:53):
There is no other solution. And people that are putting,
you know, like the Dominionists, the saf Mountains people and
that extolled you know, Trump as some sort of a
man to fight this when basically he's come forward and
he's pushing it. And yes, you're saying, oh, well, America
(30:13):
needs to lead it, that's what they're saying. But I
look at it and go, this is just a Bible
prophecy playing out.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
There is no stopping it.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It doesn't matter who you put in there as a
leader or whatever, it's not going to stop. And people
can have their idea about some politician or other being
the man that God's put there for the hour or whatever. Well,
I see, yeah, okay, God's you know, allowed them there
to for forward this whole agenda that is leading us
(30:43):
into these end times prophecies like Revelation thirteen and so on.
So anybody that's putting their hope in any sort of
politician or any other solution, I think it's time as
well past that we've got to realize this is where
it's heading. And then we have to think what do
we do as individuals keeping our life right, I guess,
(31:07):
And how do we tap into God's wisdom in this
situation because it isn't going to go away, as you say,
it isn't going to change, and it's just rapidly being
coming into place. And if it's only a few years
away till Jesus does return, then it isn't going to stop.
(31:28):
This is the trajectory we're on, and people need to
really get that into their head. It's not like, oh,
if we just do this thing and this thing and
put this regulation in place, we can slow it down.
We can stop it, we can regulate it.
Speaker 4 (31:40):
It's too late, yeah, I mean it's it's difficult. So
I don't want to swerve off into another area. You know.
It's part part of this struggle that we all have
(32:01):
is we have this the normalcy bias. You know. We
want to think that everything is okay and there's nothing
to worry about. And I'll admit I see that too,
and so I look, I look at like all these
things coming out of Washington, DC recently, the Epstein this
and the Russian hoax files and a lot of people
(32:25):
on my political side of the aisle I'm a conservative,
are really upset about a lot of things, and it's
Trump's base. But I'm also I was a trial lawyer.
I know how difficult these cases are to put together.
And so the Trump people have only been in place
(32:45):
really for maybe four months, and in many cases there's
still not in place because and so prosecuting people for
these things is extremely difficult under the best of circumstances,
and it takes a while. I was involved in a
big criminal case for a client. In fact, some of
(33:09):
that is still going on. It started in October of
two thousand and two. So here we sit, what almost
twenty three years later. I'm still working on at least
one small aspect of that case. It took years and
years to put things together, and so it'll take a
(33:30):
long time to put things together once you get access
to everything on like Epstein and Russia and all this stuff.
But in the meantime, the technocrats march forward with no restrictions.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
Well, it's the reast of it's a distraction. The news
headlines will talk about Obama and a conspiracy against the
Trump administration and so on, and people will buy into that.
Meanwhile these other things is slipping through and creating this
did all control grid, and people are being entertained by
(34:04):
stories about whatever star is doing this and that and
the other thing, and oh, here's the latest photos of someone.
Doesn't she look good at seventy one or whatever? And
then you've got you know, this other stuff, and it's
distracting people from what's really the issues, and the really
important stuff is getting put into place, like big building
(34:24):
blocks to create this system really rapidly. That's how I
see it.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, and so when this mark of the Beasts system
comes about, it's flipping a switch. That's all they're going
to have to do. It's not going to be they're
not going to have to build it. They're not going
to have to fund it or anything like that. And
it's I will say, I don't know exactly what that
(34:54):
system looks like, but I can't imagine that there's anything
that it needs that is an existent right now.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Yeah, it's definitely so much happening. It's just putting these
final things into position, like the pieces in the jigsaw puzzle.
But okay, so I guess we'd better look to wrapping up.
But I don't want to leave this in a totally
negative space. So as Christians, John, We're still going to
have hope. We're still going to have hope in our salvation,
We're still going to have hope for our future. And
(35:25):
so what would you say to people that are listening,
that are going, Oh, this's just because some people get scared.
Speaker 4 (35:32):
Yeah, you know. Look, I will only say from my
own personal standpoint. I know about all of this. I
study it, I talk about it. I don't do it
to scare people. I do it to remind people of
where their hope really is, that all of this stuff
(35:54):
is temporary. I saw a secular guy, not a Christian,
Jerry Seinfeld the other day, made a very good point.
He goes, they said, well, you get a lot of
negative feedback, don't you, And he goes, I don't care.
I don't care. He said, I'm here for such a
(36:18):
short time that I'm not going to let that stuff
bother me. I'm going to focus on what I need
to focus on, and what we need to focus on
is Jesus and helping to build his church and sharing
the Gospel and discipling people even now. And so while
I talk about all this, I really don't get scared. Okay,
(36:39):
I see it happening. I know it's there, and maybe
it's because I'm older, and I know that under the
statistical chances of me being around for a very very
long time is not that high, and so I don't
worry about it. I know where I'm going. But I
(37:00):
will also say that I think that the thetical chances
of all of us being around here for a very
very long time until Jesus returns that windows closing. And
so people need to get right with the Lord right now.
(37:20):
That it's not something that you can shove off. It
can change, and we've watched it change very quickly. And
this is, as you know, this is operating on many,
many different levels. It's just not the tech side. It's
geo politics, it's moral, it's a religious and sort of
(37:41):
in the technocracy space. You're seeing emerging a merging of
the religious, spiritual and technical in a way that I
think a lot of us have followed us. We're always
saying I didn't think I would see this. I didn't
think I would see this. And I joke with somebody
(38:02):
last week when we were to set up a tip jar
that every time you see that you have to throw
it twenty in and then whoever's running the tip jar
could retire and try to get away from all of this.
But I don't know. I don't sit around. I really
don't sit around worried because I know where my hope lies,
and I know where my ultimate destination is with the Lord.
Speaker 3 (38:24):
And we need to do that. And anyone that doesn't
know the Lord needs to get their lives right now
with God. I think it's also proven to do some
sort of preparations for things as best as we can.
It's also really good to get some enjoyment out of
life and just enjoy the simple things while we can
as well, because we don't know how much longer we
(38:45):
would even have that freedom. So enjoy the day as
much as possible, keep your lives right with God. And
it's good to be educated on this stuff, but don't
let it consume you. That's how I look at it. So, John,
where do people find you out?
Speaker 4 (38:59):
Let me just say. Pam and I took a trip
out west, and she remarked, I remarked a few times
more than a few times during that trip, is the
world is very very big and we are very very small.
It's amazing how much space. There are more telephone polls
than people's out of Wyoming, people than Wyoming and South
(39:21):
Dakota and elsewhere. So where people can find me. Fpchapel
dot com is the church website Fellowship Bible Chapel Fpchapel
dot com, Fellowship Bible Chapel on YouTube. You can also
just search my name and then also Rumble Real FBC
and we do have an app and that type of thing.
(39:41):
And I will be leading a tour to the Holy
Land to Israel. We're going to try to get some
unique sites in if possible. You know, it's always right now.
A couple months ago, I was saying, I don't know
if this is going to happen. I think it's going
to happen now. That's in October six through the twentieth.
(40:02):
Than if there's a link for John Hower Israel tour
Atfchapel dot com if you're interested in joining up on that.
Speaker 3 (40:09):
All right, sounds good. Well, thank you for being on
the show again today, John, and let's do.
Speaker 4 (40:14):
It again soon. Thanks too, Best to you and Holly Cheers.
Thanks and send our regards to Pam too.
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