John Haller: Understanding the Situation in Israel - A Minute To Midnite

Episode 589 of the A Minute to Midnite Show. Tony is joined by John Haller.

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Speaker 3 (01:01):
Hi there, folks, welcome to the A Minute to Midnight Show.
This is Tony coming to you from New Zealand. With
me on the show, I have John Haller and Ohio.
It's been a while since we've had you on the show. John,
it's been quite a while, longer than normal, so it's
good to see you again.

Speaker 4 (01:17):
Good to see you, Tony. Been a little busy, but
you know that's lafe.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:21):
Well you've just returned from Israel, so I'm sure that
you've got stuff we can discuss a little bit on that.

Speaker 5 (01:29):
I see the whole.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Well, it's a can of worms as soon as you
start talking about Israel, and I know that's going to happen.
You know, it's always people are either one way or
the other. When it comes to this issue. There's very
few people that are somewhere balanced with it, I feel.
But anyway, you're safe and sown back in the US.
And it must have been a very adventurous trip because

(01:54):
of the time that you were there and so much
went down.

Speaker 4 (01:57):
Yeah, we were there when we were there during Succote.
We flew in on Succote, which meant that the traffic
in from Bengorion Airport to our hotel in Jerusalem was
It was wonderful because there was no virtually nobody on
the road, so that was great. And then we were
there during the Succota holidays and it seemed like to

(02:20):
have a Shabbat every other day. And then we were
also there the day the hostages were released. That evening
started Semhat Torah on their calendar, which was the actual
two year anniversary of the attack on October seventh, but
we were down at Nova Music Festival. We went down
to the Gaza Envelope. The first full day we were there,

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which was the day after it was on October eighth,
but it was the day everybody was doing their anniversary
celebrations because the day before had been the Succota Shabbat
and I have to tell you that one of the
things I really wanted to do on the tour was

(03:06):
do things that are a little bit differently, go to
some sites that most Christian tours don't go to. And
that's not to criticize the other tours. It's just that
there were some things that I've done in the past
that I thought would be helpful for people to experience
for themselves. And then we also wanted to meet with people.
So the first day were there, we had a two

(03:26):
hour tour of far Aza, which was one of the
keebou seem just south of Ceteroat on the Gaza border
that was attacked on October seventh. There were nine hundred
and twenty people that lived there on October seventh, twenty
twenty three. They're now fifteen. A lot of damage to
the buildings that have not been repaired. We had one

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of the residents of the Kibbutz take us around and
there was a reason. I kind of give you the contrast,
there was a reason why those team were attacked, those
Keybod team. And I don't mean this in a derogatory way,
but I you know, I kind of try to use
one term to describe people. Those are essentially the left

(04:11):
leaning hippies of Israel. The Keybot team are communal. There
are agricultural communities. They live, they share everything. Sometimes they
even have the kids live in a dormitory rather than
in the home. They have school, you know, they have
everything rec center, tennis courts, basketball courts, that type of thing.

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And so this this Keyboots, the defence along the west
side of the key Boots was this was Far Oza
k far Aza. They had sixty eight people killed there.
On October seventh, twenty twenty three, eighteen people taken hostage
and at the time we were there with a tour

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with one of the residents. There were two two twins,
two boys, two men still held hostage. Now they've since
been released. So we were there during the hostages release
and there were people celebrating on all sides of the
political spectrum all over Israel. Everybody was glad that the

(05:19):
hostages got released. But and then we went to the
Nova music site that was the day of their main memorial.
There were thousands of people. But you walk through this
field where the looking towards where the stage was the
day of that music festival, and there are three hundred

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and fifty markers, posters set up, and then memorials and
picture books and the families were there and you could
talk to the families. It's very emotional to go through.
You go to the some of the bombshelters where twenty
or twenty four people were killed, and when you see
it closing like that, you kind of get a different

(06:03):
situation of the reality. And then after leaving Nova, we
went to the Auto Junkyard or whatever you want to
call it, where a lot of the terrace cars and
cars of people along the highways. I mean, we're driving
on the highways where you see the videos of people
being shot pulled over, RPGs fired at the cars. One

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of the couples that went with us that day was
the was an Orthodox Jewish couple and their sons served
on the border fence that day combat medic when the
attack started, I don't remember the exact sequence. At one
point he went and got his commander in an armored
vehicle and as they were driving, the commander at least

(06:48):
that was described to being got his arm shot off
and he had to help, you know, try to stop
the bleeding. Went to his base down there, and when
we think of a base. We think of, at least
in America, think of thousands of people. The basis down
there might have twenty twenty five, thirty forty people. He
had a base of about forty people and he got

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there and they were all dead. Then we went up
to Cetter Road to the cemetery and met with the
widow of the first police officer killed in the attack
that morning. She said, he kissed me goodbye at seven
oh two am, and he knew something was wrong. He
couldn't sleep all night long. He just said, felt like
something was not right, and he got up and he

(07:32):
gets her goodby at seven oh two am, and at
seven oh four am he pulled into the police station,
et cetera and was shot dead by Hamas terrorists. And
she said that they came back repeatedly during the day
before his body could be retrieved, and they had essentially

(07:52):
mount an attack on the police station once they were
sure nobody was in it, and they destroyed the police
station and the attack. So there's a memorial there. We
went over to the memorial, but she said that they
came back and continually shot his body all day long.
There was a as we're in set a road you

(08:15):
could hear. I mean, you're like, it's cet a road fence.
You're maybe a kilometer from the Gaza fence that was
breached on October seventh, and you could hear there. This
was before the ceasefire and everything, and there were a
number of very large explosions just across that you could

(08:36):
hear all day long in aircraft and that sort of
thing as they were kind of cleaning up some of
the terrorist infrastructure there. And the interesting thing is when
this happens et Ceta Road, people don't even look, you know,
they don't even blink when these I mean you can
kind of feel a concussion from some of the explosions,

(08:57):
even though it's a couple of miles away, and nobody
they just act like it's normal. It's kind of a.

Speaker 5 (09:03):
It's kind of strange, pretty surreal, I imagine.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
Yeah, it really is. I mean, you can see a
lot of the damage from where we were, and then
there's a lookout on the top of the hill. There's
a place you can climb up and look into Gaza
from up there, and I mean you can see that
it's been effectively destroyed. That we were in the north
end of the strip. They're Gaza City.

Speaker 5 (09:28):
It's pretty not amazing.

Speaker 3 (09:33):
I suppose it's to be expected that, Yeah, when you're
they the Israeli troops and that pullback, and then you
have har maas you know, still executing other people that
don't go along with your ideology in Gaza and all that,
And I look at it and think, and they're supposed
to disarm these people and get some sort of a

(09:55):
coherent Palestinian governm mint in there. It's like, really hard
to see how that's going to happen.

Speaker 4 (10:04):
But I watched the interview with Jared Kushner, who is really,
I think the architect of what's at least best as
I can determine the architect of what's going on. And
you know, I have major problems with the Trump administration.
Trump's business interest, although he's technically not involved in that.

(10:24):
The Trump company has got a multi billion dollar resort
deal with Qatar, which is pure muzzle brotherhood. They fund terrorism,
they find.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, imagine Trump's given Qatar a part of an airbase
in the US.

Speaker 5 (10:40):
It's just like, my goodness, you know, that's like, yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
I been bi nor Obama that had done that. Everyone
would have been crying out. But people are just seeming
to accept it in the conservative whatever you want to
call them, mega circles and all that, and it's just like, yeah,
it's bizarre. But you mentioned Jared Kushner. I mean to me,
he's he's a really shady character.

Speaker 4 (11:04):
Yeah. Look, I saw the interview on sixty Minutes the
other night with Lesley Stall interviewing Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.
Wikoff himself was bailed out by Katar. Katari Investment Fund
bailed out Jared Kushner on one of his pretty expensive
office building in Manhattan. Used to be sixty sixty six

(11:25):
Fifth Avenue. I think they've changed the number since due
to the fact that they read about it in some
of the conspiracy theories on x and other sites, and
so they got these massive bailouts. And I'll be honest
with you. Look, I'm going to be honest and up front.
I'm largely a supporter of israel. I. Don't agree with

(11:46):
everything the Israeli government does. I think they made big
mistakes and thinking that they could somehow manage a moas
over the last few years, that if they allowed excuse me,
prosperity to come to the Middle to Gaza, that they

(12:08):
would abandon their terrorism leanings and that that's just not true.
And Tony, it's so interesting as you travel around Israel.
The one thing that I saw was a constant, consistent theme.
We went from the Gaza envelope. The next day we

(12:31):
went down to have Rone to the tomb of the
Patriarchs and it was a big it was a feast day.
Excuse me one second here, I'm going to put this
on you for a second. There's a big feast day.
They're expecting forty thousand Orthodox Jews there and the two
of the patriarchs us. It has a synagogue and a

(12:53):
mosque on top, but twenty days a year, ten days
for the Jewish people and ten days for Muslims. They
have complete control at the top of the mosque. So
we were there in a day when the Jewish people
and worshippers had the mosque and the synagogue, which is
kind of unusual because it's, like I said, it's only

(13:15):
ten days per year and there are forty thousand orthodoxy
Jews expected that day. And then from there we walked
down the street been closed down now for probably twenty
five years or more. Where it used to be full
of Arab shops. There's a Jewish community at the end
of the street in a place called the Hedasa House.

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You go to Hadassa House and then there there's a
memorial to the Heavron. It's actually one of the places
where people were killed in the Heavron massive famous Hevro
massacre in nineteen twenty nine. And it's interesting that the
trigger for the October seventh attacks at twenty twenty three
and the Hero massacre in nineteen twenty nine were the same,

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which was claims started by Hamas in twenty twenty three
and the Mufti and Jerusalem in nineteen twenty nine that
the Jews were going to come and destroy al ox
of Mosque. They weren't. They haven't, even though they controlled
the Tipple Mouth for a period of time after the
Sixth Day War in nineteen sixty seven. It's but the

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theme was the same. You know, sixty eight people killed,
then twelve hundred people killed on October seven, uh and
then we went to Gushizione, which is a Jewish community
on land they bought in Judaea, often called the southern
part of the West Bank. Gushietzione and a fraud, and
they're building war. They're building seven thousand homes in the

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frat so on land that they bought and they've owned
for a while. But you go to Gushiezzione and there's
a video there about the nineteen forty eight war and
it shows what happened. It's very move video about how
many of them were killed I think one hundred and
fifty some in the nineteen forty eight war. And then

(15:09):
go up to Jerusalem to the Hervest Synagogue and there's
a video about how the Jordanians completely destroyed the Jewish
Quarter in nineteen forty eight. And so the Jewish Quarter
is very new construction for the most part in Jerusalem
because it was destroyed in nineteen forty eight by the Jordanians.
They didn't destroy the Christian, the Arab, Christian or Armenian

(15:34):
quarters of the city, but they did destroy the Jewish Quarter,
killed a bunch of people, families, and so there's this
consistent theme everywhere you go. Now, I know people say
the same thing here, but when you're in a fraud.
For example, I mentioned to you before we started recording
when we went to Chabbat service at one of the

(15:57):
Orthodox synagogues there, and they were worshiping and singing and
dancing as they do. It's called the Happy Synagogue by
people that live there. But I'm sitting in my seat
and a guy came and sat down on either side
of me with an automatic rifle like an AK forty
seven or a coalishnikov or whatever. You know, I'm not

(16:19):
an expert of those type of guns. And then almost
everybody had a gun on their hip. Met with a
member of the kanesse. He had a gun on his
hip from a fraud, met with the mayor of a fraud.
So because you go to their homes and across the
valley there's a historical site called Solomon's Pools that held
water that came from Hevron and then went on to

(16:40):
Jerusalem for the temple. On the temple, now there's giants
cisterns there that they filled up with that water. But
you know, the guys in fraud or showed me bullet
marks on the front of their houses from Bethelhem across
the way. So and you know, you there and you
talk to people and meet with them, and you quickly

(17:05):
become convince that who knows what the resolution is? We
went the historical site up in Samaria, which is north
of Ramala, a place called joshuas Alter near Bethel and
novelists where ancient biblical Shechem is located. And by way,
it's no doubt that this is Bethel. There's no doubt

(17:26):
that that's Shechem. And we had to get on a
bulletproof a bus with bulletproof. We wanted a couple of
Orthodox Jewish groups to share costs. We had to get
a bulletproof bus and have an idf escort into Joshuasalter
and go in a back road and then hike a
probably a good mile or so to the site of Joshuasalter,

(17:49):
and it is Josha was Alter, There's no doubt about it.
But I mean, this is so the area the biblical
heartleyand of Israel Jewish people are largely excluded from unless
they take extraordinary measures to get there.

Speaker 3 (18:04):
Interesting, well, we know that this whole area is going
to be the well ground zero for in times events.
You know, that's pretty obvious from scripture. And I'm just
I'm looking at the whole Abraham Accords thing and the
you know, the three faith houses in the Abu Dhabi.

(18:26):
You know, the Muslim and Christian and Jewish synagogue and
all that, and then just the moves I'm seeing everywhere
with uniting religions and within Christianity in sects and so on.
How do you do you have any thoughts on how
you think this is playing out? Because I really see

(18:49):
us moving towards the Beast system and which I think
will ultimately probably be centered in Jerusalem. But we have
the one World religion and I think being well, that's
their attempts to bring it all together at this point,
and the Middle East, I guess, is going to be
central to it.

Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's really certainly I think the Middle East is going
to be the epicenter, as some authors have said, and
I think I agree with that, and you can kind
of see it all coming together. You see very clear
division in Israel between Arab, Muslim and the Jewish government,

(19:34):
but you also see it's kind of interesting within Israel proper.
You know, there are a couple million what we call
think of as the nation of Israel excluding the West
Bank or Biblical Juday in Samaria. That area is you know,
it's a mix of Arab and Jewish, and the Arabs

(19:54):
very much in that area are very much supportive of Israel.
But when you get into Juday and Samaria and the
communities there, I mean, look at it this way, a fraud.
Everybody carries a gun. All the men carried guns. I
mean we met I don't know how many people we
met with. Everybody pretty much everybody had a gun, either

(20:14):
an automatic rifle or something on their hit, you know,
a hand weapon on their hip. And the reason is,
at gods that they had somewhat of a border fence.
There were parts of it that had been more that
had been more fortified than others, and I think they
had plenty of warnings that something was coming, but nobody.

(20:37):
It's very strange. It's almost like there's this normalcy bias. Well,
things really aren't as bad as we think. And this
happens all the time with governments. It happened to us,
you know, twenty four years ago, it happened in Israel.
It's happened a number of times in Israel. But in

(20:57):
the area of the West Bank, you know, the Judaean Samerii,
like we're Owamala novelist Janine, A bunch of Arab villages Bethlehem,
they support Hamas like eighty percent of the people support
what Hamas did on October seventh, and when there's no

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really there's a fence, but it's it's easily breached, it's
not it's not really a wall. In most places, it's
a fence. And so now you know why people in
Israel saw what happened at Gazo, and that's why they
carry weapons in these Orthodox Zionist communities located in Judae

(21:43):
and Samaria because there's nothing between there. I don't know
how to say this, their enemy and them and their
attacks all the time. I mean, like I should talk
to a Jewish lawyer down enough Friday. He said, come,
I want to show you the front of mine house,
and it's a complete The UN is well we know this.

(22:09):
We can agree on this. The UN is a very
evil organization through un NGOs and everything. When you go
into like I was in Nobles where ancient biblical Shechem
is and then on Mount Eball where Joshuas Alter is,
there's this Arab city and it is a terrorist hotbed.

(22:31):
But between when I was there eight years ago and today,
the number of new apartment buildings in Arab villages and
places like Noblists and Bethlehem and other Arab villages, cities
and towns within the area known as the West Bank.

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Is absolutely shocking. So when you go to a fraud
across this valley where Solomon's pools are, this is the
southern part of Beth and with all these new apartment buildings.
So we went to shabbat at a rabbi's home and
we came out, walked down to our bus and looked
across that valley. The first one it was. I looked

(23:14):
at a front the Jewish community of a fraud. There
are lights in all the windows. It's like, you know,
apartment buildings in condos across the valley, all of those
new buildings. Tony and I saw this everywhere we went,
novelists coming down the highway sixty at night from Shiloh,

(23:34):
from past Ramala. In all of those new apartment buildings,
there's not a single light in any window. They're completely
and as people in Israel, they're empty. They're built. It's
like a movie set. They're built for show, to make
people think there are more Palestinians than there are and

(23:55):
that their population is growing, and that's just not the case.
I've been to other place. This is where there are
a community of mansions that looks like Beverly Hills Arab
and I'm there three four hours, not a single soul
to be found. It's like Beverly Hills. And so there

(24:16):
is a massive propaganda war underway, and I'm concerned. And
again I'll admit I'm a support, largely a supporter of Israel,
but I am shocked. I mean, my ex feed is
an absolute sewer of jewe hatred every day. It's unbelievable,

(24:38):
and it's infecting the I guess the conservative religious right
wing and America on an epic scale. And I think
this is prophetic. I think this is what was described
in scripture, and I think we see it happening in
front of us. But people in Israel, the Jewish populations

(25:01):
are pretty optimistic. It's not that, by the way, I
don't want anybody to think I think the Jews are perfect.
There's some bad eggs in that group too. There's some
left wing nuts and Israel plenty of them. And so
but as a as a general, I would say the

(25:22):
Israeli society is eighty five percent or a little bit
more supportive of what's been done in Gaza. So what
would you be shocked to hear that.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
What would you I mean, as a as a Christian
in Israel, how do you feel how are you treated
by the Orthodox Jews? And I mean a lot of
people listening to God, Well, you know, they're just as
unsaved as a Muslim.

Speaker 5 (25:46):
And or whatever.

Speaker 3 (25:48):
And I'm you know, and without Christ, you're as lost
as anyone else.

Speaker 5 (25:52):
But how you know, traditionally.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
Okay, So here's here's the issue, Tony. This is the
issue with me. We know there's promise, we know there's
this reconciliation coming. Paul talks about it in Romans chapter eleven.
And anybody that dies, denies, that does not know their scripture.
They're not perfect, they're not saved yet. I get that.
But what was what I'm seeing, having been there a

(26:15):
number of times and I'm going back in nine days
for ten days, I'm seeing a how does this? How
does this reconciliation come about? And there's a progression, there's
a restoration of the things that they lost in seventy eight.
They're tied to the land, some of their worship. They're

(26:38):
going to get a temple, and everybody says, oh, the
temple will be the temple. The Antichrist. No, it's not
built to be that it will be taken over by
the Antichrist. But it's not. You know, everybody says, well,
the temple will be desecrated by the anti Christ. Well,
how do you desecrate something that's already evil and on
and not set aside? So there's a there's a restoration

(26:59):
process that that happens. I'm not sure how it works.
I think I see the beginnings of it. And as
you go through the Old City and the City of David,
you see these historical archaeological sites restoring their connection to
the land. Ezekiel thirty six. I'm going to bring you
back into the land at the end. That's a future

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prophecy that we sort of we see a lot of
these things unfolding in front of us. I'm walking through
the Old City the other day, near the memorial site
where bodies are buried from the forty eight war. On
the wall is a verse from Zachari chapter eight. There

(27:41):
were IDF soldier groups there being you know, part of
their training is they visit history of what's happened there.
I looked over at the plaque on it, and so
in the square there are older people walking around, they're
sitting there. There are kids playing soccer in the square
and the old city right, you know, not too far
from the western wall. And the verse is from Zachariah

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says that old people, old men and women will occupy
the area, that children, boys and girls will play in
the streets. So I'm watching this and the soldiers, a
couple Orthodox soldiers are standing at the wall reading that
verse from Zachariah and weeping openly. So what I'm saying

(28:29):
is that I think that there is a process to this,
and I think it's very First of all, Paul tells
us in Romans eleven, don't you wild olive branches be
arrogant towards the natural, and what will happen will be
a miraculous thing coming about. And so I don't know

(28:51):
exactly how it happens. I'm just saying, is I see
the beginning of beginnings of it everywhere I look. And
the Arabs are by the way, Every Arab in Israel
is free to participate in this. But you go to
Bethlehem Bethelhem was ninety percent Christian fifty years ago. It's

(29:12):
now ten to fifteen percent Christian. That area is not occupied.
It's sort of under the umbrella of Israel, but it's
Muslim persecution that's driving the Christians out. And it's about
time Christians in America, in the UK, in Australia and
elsewhere wake up to the fact that we have a

(29:33):
massive problem. And I personally believe Israel is on the
front line. You can say they're causing it, they're provoking it,
and I would argue with you, you don't know what
you're talking about. I've been there, I've seen it, I've
lived it. I've been in Orthodox homes. I went to
an Orthodox seminar, in a seminar synagogue and one of

(29:53):
the most orthodox, hardcore Zionist communities. I was welcomed. I'm
not treated badly or anything like that. Yeah. Are there
some wacky settlers that spit on Christians every now and then? Yeah?

(30:15):
I kind of just share one more story. I ran
into a lady in the Old City. I was talking
to somebody about geopolitics in the Christian Quarter and she
stopped by and she said, I'm interested in what you
guys are talking about. Can I listen? And I asked
her who she was, and she said, I live in Bethlehem,
I worked with Palestinians, and when I came here six

(30:36):
years ago, I was the most pro Palestinian person you've
ever met. But I'm Christian. I have death threats on
my life and it's you know, but I'm staying there.
But it's a terrible place with the way I'm treated.
And she said, you know, you have no idea what
it's like, and so I guess I'm just saying, is

(30:58):
we want to just ignore people like this, like well
because we don't like Jews or something like that, and
I have a problem with it. I'm sorry. I don't
think Jews are perfect. I don't think Jews are automatically saved.
I don't think a lot of people that populate our
Christian churches are saved yet either. So everybody needs to
be evangelized. But there's this progression of things that happen

(31:21):
in the end times that I see unfolding everywhere I look.
It's and I'll be honest with you. I talked to
people in this world, what's this. Nobody has an idea
what the solution is. But this Islamic thing is a
very big deal. It's coming everywhere. Talk to people in

(31:42):
the UK, go to I was just in Texas for
a conference a month ago and met with people in
Texas that are shocked at what's going on with Islam
in Texas and how it's coming in that's Texas. Why Texas,
Because Texas is a place. It's being done by design,

(32:04):
and we need to realize that. And we're I think
we're in for this epic battle in the end times.
And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
Yeah, the guitar and the ear base within the US, is.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
It, Well no, and it's it's not to give guitar
a lot of money or credit for what they did.
It's a total fake out job. And I watched Kushner
in wit Coff on sixty minutes the other day. I
have to tell you it's shocking. So, yeah, Israel took
out tried to take out some Hamas leaders in Qatar, Okay,

(32:46):
because you you got to cut off the head of
the state, and they you know, Trump was upset and
Kushner was upset, and wick Coff says, oh, well, they
took out the peacemakers. Steve Witkoff is a complete uninformed
The nice thing I will say, is completely uninformed about
what's going on. If he thinks that the Hamas leadership

(33:10):
in Qatar were the peacemakers. That is a complete inversion
of reality. And that's what I saw a lot of places,
even among people in Israel, and I see it online
all the time. Every reality is inverted all the time.
I think that's a side of the the times in

(33:31):
which we live. How this works out, I don't know.
You know, I'm getting older. I may not live to
see the end of it, but I will tell you
that I'm very troubled by what I see with a
lot of people that don't really they either don't have
a clue or they're well, you hope that they're being

(33:56):
paid to do what they do. And if they're not
being paid with to do then pure evil or really
really uninformed and stupid, I guess is the best way
to say. It is shocking to me. It really is
shocking to me. And I mean I even see people say, well,
you know, Hamas is executing people since the ceasefire in Gods,

(34:19):
but they're just killing the people that were preventing them
from finishing off Israel. It's a complete inversion of reality
everywhere that I look. And I know people get upset
about this, but you know, I've spent a lot of
time studying it. And by the way, don't get paid
anything by Israel to support Israel, by and large, I

(34:43):
know people get paid by Kutar to support them, big difference.
So I think we're rocketing to a conclusion. And by
the way, everywhere I looked tony Orthodox communities and even
in some of the air Muslim communities and things I've

(35:04):
been reading, everybody thinks that we've got like four or
five more years before things really hit the fan, something
big happens. Orthodox you say this, Christians say this, the
UN says it, the Ai people say it. So maybe
everybody's right on that point, and that we do have

(35:26):
a relatively short period of time.

Speaker 3 (35:30):
Yes, well, definitely things are rocketing forward in a whole
lot of areas, you know, as escalating towards the end times.
And I know you've seen before that things will converge
very quickly, and I see that happening everywhere. But there
are a ton of other topics. But well, I guess
we will if they leave it.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
Yeah, so I'll be back from Israel, you know, about
the November or so, and we can talk again after that.
And but you know, I've been doing these technology roundtables
with what's going on with AI and those type of things,
and I will tell you that a lot of people
are sending me things. There's a lot of people thinking
through these issues. I don't know that any of us

(36:14):
has it all figured out like ABCDF are going to
happen in that sequence. I just don't think. Well. I mean,
I speak at conferences, okay, and we agree on a
few things, but then we disagree on everything else. So
these are people that are studying the Bible, the scriptures
and everything, and I just think we're at the point

(36:34):
where it's starting to become clear, but we're not there
where we can say something like this is that which
was prophesied. I look at things as there's a threshold
and everything. When it reaches a certain level, then we'll
be able to say this is that which was prophesied.
And I'm not sure how we go about that, but

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I think we're getting close on some of these issues
to say that that's it, that this really is. It'll
be interesting to watch how the sun falls.

Speaker 3 (37:07):
Well, I think one of the hallmarks and I guess
we'll leave it here is it deception? I think, and
will be rampant, and Jesus told us, warned us about
being deceived, and I just see so much of it
deception in all areas, particularly now in the conservative right,
Christians being dragged into nationalism and all kinds of other things.

Speaker 5 (37:28):
I just think.

Speaker 3 (37:30):
There will just be so many deceptions, and it's getting
harder and harder to find people that haven't been caught
up in one or the other of them, even as
finding guests on the show and things. It's like the
number of people is narrowing down that I feel even
comfortable having.

Speaker 4 (37:46):
So well, I'll know when you stop, colleague, you've reached
that level with me, then.

Speaker 3 (37:52):
Oh well, look we can have we can, you know,
disagree on some things, but by and large we're on
the same track.

Speaker 4 (37:58):
So yeah, but you're exactly, you're one hundred percent correct
that the deception is operating on many levels that we
go and look, I have to guard you know, I
want to guard myself, so I don't buy into it.
So look, there are things, for example, Trump does that
I like, and so I've told everybody for a while

(38:18):
now I'm transactional with him, just like we would have
been transactional with Joe Biden. If Joe Biden had done
anything that I approved of, then I would have said, yeah,
I approve of what he did. And so there are
things that Trump does that I like, and there's a
lot that he does that I don't like. So you
call him out on the what you don't like, and
you support what you do like. That's politics, that's the

(38:41):
way it is. But I'm just telling you, Tony, this
Islamic thing that we're facing is enormous. And then they
have these people everywhere that support them. You know, we
talked about a couple of those people, one male, one female,

(39:02):
that are out there. But you know that I'm looking Tony.
I don't understand how this extra hottest, supposedly extra hottest
guide comes into power in Syria and everybody's falling all
over themselves to approve what he does. It doesn't make
any sense.

Speaker 3 (39:21):
No, unless he's a bigger agenda at play, which I
think there is. But I think we'll leave it at
that for today, anyway. Okay, So thanks, yeah, thanks John,
being good to see you again, And folks, don't forget
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